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Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of The Clay, Travis and Buck

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Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast.

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Speaker 2: Welcome back to Clay and Buck. Clay already calling a

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Speaker 2: shot early in the first quarter here of the twenty

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Speaker 2: twenty four election. He's basically saying, call out the mercy rule.

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Speaker 2: Trump is a running aware that I'm falling back on

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Speaker 2: the world is a crazy place. Nobody can predict the future.

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Speaker 2: And we could have moved on the Democrats side, we

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Speaker 2: could have moved on the Republican side. I'm going to

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Speaker 2: wait and see. I'll also say this, I'm humbled by

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Speaker 2: what happened in twenty twenty two, where and Tucker has

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Speaker 2: said this publicly. A lot of people have come out

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Speaker 2: and said, you know, it seemed like you know, I mean,

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Speaker 2: I look, I was so fired up about For me,

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Speaker 2: it was Leezelden. I wanted Leezelden to win so badly,

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Speaker 2: and even after COVID in New York and when I

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Speaker 2: saw all the lunacy here, I was like the people

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Speaker 2: of New York States. I wasn't relying on New York City.

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Speaker 2: I was like the people of New York States. And

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Speaker 2: look they made it close. You know, they we're out

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Speaker 2: number two to one. And at the end of the day,

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Speaker 2: when you're out number two to one as a Republican

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Speaker 2: in New York State, it doesn't really get it done.

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Speaker 2: Or maybe it's I think it's maybe a little less

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Speaker 2: than two to one. But the point is we're obviously,

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Speaker 2: you know, we don't really have I'm talking about registrations.

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Speaker 2: We don't really have the numbers we need. In New

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Speaker 2: York City it's like eight to one. So I mean,

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Speaker 2: that's just almost impossible unless you go hang out with

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Speaker 2: my friend Joe Barelli in Staten Island, the one enclave

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Speaker 2: of sanity down there. But here you go. DeSantis is

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Speaker 2: realizing he's got ground to make up and in the polls,

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Speaker 2: that's that's for sure, and he's saying things about Trump

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Speaker 2: on policy. So far, none of this has landed at all.

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Speaker 2: This is what Ron said over the weekend Play six.

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Speaker 3: We've been very frank at our differences with respect to

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Speaker 3: the former president. I mean, for example, he promised to

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Speaker 3: drain the swamp. It got worse. He did not drain

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Speaker 3: the swamp. He promised to bill have Mexico pay for

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Speaker 3: a border wall. They did, like fifty miles of wall.

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Speaker 3: There's massive bans have still there. He said he was

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Speaker 3: going to eliminate the national debt. They added almost eight

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Speaker 3: trillion dollars to the debt in four years, and of

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Speaker 3: course in twenty twenty he turned the country over to

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Speaker 3: doctor Fauci, and those lockdowns and the borrowing and printing

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Speaker 3: really sent us on a bad course. I've been very,

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Speaker 3: very frank at that. But I have no interest in

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Speaker 3: attacking Donald Trump or any of these other candidates personally.

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Speaker 2: I think we've got to rise above that. So he's

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Speaker 2: not going personal and he's talking policy. We haven't seen

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Speaker 2: a bump from this. I think we're at a point

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Speaker 2: too where a lot of people so far who are

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Speaker 2: locked in on the Trump side of things, they disagree

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Speaker 2: with the assessment on policy, or they disagree with some

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Speaker 2: of the criticisms, or also perhaps they viewed the criticisms

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Speaker 2: as not substantial enough for them to change their mind. Meaning, Okay,

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Speaker 2: even if the wall didn't get finished, which we can

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Speaker 2: all agree it didn't get finished, right, that's just reality.

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Speaker 2: How much of it was actually new wall versus additional wall.

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Speaker 2: I haven't seen a lot of voters who say, well,

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Speaker 2: I blame Trump so much for that, given the realities.

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Speaker 2: He faced that I'm going to go with a different

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Speaker 2: Republican candidate, right, So it's a it's an uphill climb

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Speaker 2: here for all of his opponents except for Vivek, who

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Speaker 2: I think you have to suggest Viveke is probably taking

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Speaker 2: some of those dissentis and maybe expected Tim Scott supporters

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Speaker 2: because he's actually been getting boosts in the polls. Well,

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Speaker 2: I don't think people know him.

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Speaker 4: And by the way, when I'm talking about Trump taking control,

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Speaker 4: I said, I'm talking about the twenty sixteen race, but

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Speaker 4: I'm referencing July of twenty fifteen, which if you go

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Speaker 4: back and look at polling in July of twenty fifteen,

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Speaker 4: Trump became the favorite, and we really never saw Trump

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Speaker 4: relinquish his mantle as the favorite all the way through

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Speaker 4: the rest of the primary season. Now there were different challengers,

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Speaker 4: and if you'll remember, that argument was, well Trump really can't.

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Speaker 2: Get above a third.

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Speaker 4: Oh, he's only got a round a third of the

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Speaker 4: Republican primary electorate. When it eventually ends up being Trump

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Speaker 4: for everybody out there who's forgotten Trump versus Ted Cruz,

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Speaker 4: and then Ted Cruz was never able to get over

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Speaker 4: the hump, and Trump continued.

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Speaker 2: So I also kind of that the Trump wrecking ball

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Speaker 2: in twenty sixteen, the way it was set up was

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Speaker 2: it was almost like, I don't know, did you ever

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Speaker 2: play like Double Dragon growing up or any of those

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Speaker 2: like fighting video games. I love those things, you know,

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Speaker 2: Street Fighter, but Double Dragon it's with each level you

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Speaker 2: had to fight a boss at the end. Yeah, Now,

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Speaker 2: if you had to fight all the bosses at once,

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Speaker 2: you wouldn't be able to win. But Trump, you know,

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Speaker 2: it was he took you know, he took down Rubio,

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Speaker 2: and he took down Kasick. Remember with the uh was

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Speaker 2: it the pizza thing? Was Kasick? He kind of one

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Speaker 2: by one swatted down these competitors over time, so that

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Speaker 2: by the time it was just him and Ted Cruz,

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Speaker 2: you know, it was too much. She had already gained

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Speaker 2: he had gained too much momentum from that, and so

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Speaker 2: you know that was he did when I was we know,

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Speaker 2: and then after that thing started to change. We have

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Speaker 2: a ton of calls, by the way, on this do

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Speaker 2: you want to get I think with the very perspective,

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Speaker 2: you don't have to agree with.

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Speaker 4: Me on the but I spent a lot of time

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Speaker 4: looking at it over the weekend, and I think, again,

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Speaker 4: the headline is not good. Even if it's just reassigning

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Speaker 4: some of your staffers on the DeSantis campaign, it's a

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Speaker 4: sign that they haven't connected in the first sixty days

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Speaker 4: or so. What was the official DeSantis launch fifteenth of May. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: something like I forget the exact day. Sixty days in

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Speaker 4: and there has been no Uh. The argument was, well,

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Speaker 4: once we really get the campaign rolling, DeSantis will start

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Speaker 4: to get some gloves on Trump and we'll see some

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Speaker 4: movement in the polls. Yeah, we've seen movement, but it's

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Speaker 4: actually been that Trump has extended his lead. And look,

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Speaker 4: there are other people who I think have knocked themselves out, right,

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Speaker 4: like Mike Pence has knocked himself out.

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Speaker 2: I don't, I don't.

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Speaker 4: I think Mike Pince's political career is over. I think

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Speaker 4: he was bad on hearings.

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Speaker 2: Did he knock himself out, Clay or did somebody throw

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Speaker 2: a little elbow?

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Speaker 4: I think he was bad with us. I think he

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Speaker 4: was really bad with Tucker over the weekend. And then

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Speaker 4: there are people like I don't know, if you've been

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Speaker 4: paying attention, buck Asa Hutchinson is drawing crowd.

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Speaker 2: They're giving away pizza. I don't even know if it's

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Speaker 2: a crowd. You know how a conspiracy legally requires more

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Speaker 2: than one person. Can you call what Hutchinson is drawing

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Speaker 2: a crowd?

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Speaker 4: I don't know what is he even doing when you're

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Speaker 4: giving away free pizza and only four people show up?

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Speaker 4: Did you see some of the pictures as Asa Hutchinson

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Speaker 4: events like?

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Speaker 2: I don't really Is it just so that we talk

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Speaker 2: about him as the worst candidate in the field. I

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Speaker 2: mean when I say the worst, I'm not even I

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Speaker 2: don't mean that subjectively. I just mean of the ones

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Speaker 2: that have some elected office. I know there's some other

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Speaker 2: very random candidates that are, but they're never going to

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Speaker 2: get un a debate stage and no one's gonna pay

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Speaker 2: any attention. I don't really understand the advantage for someone

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Speaker 2: like Asa h I get it right, vivic, he can't

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Speaker 2: look he was strong on this show. He's got a

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Speaker 2: national profile. Now there's no question he wins no matter

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Speaker 2: what he wins. If he doesn't, you know, even up

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Speaker 2: in the top three of the presidency.

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Speaker 3: Uh.

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Speaker 2: And that's clear, that's true of a bunch of different candidates. UH.

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Speaker 2: Current and past. But I don't get the I don't

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Speaker 2: get the Asa Hutchinson play.

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Speaker 4: I don't understand when he announced Buck we said, I

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Speaker 4: don't even know who he's talking to. That's telling him, Hey,

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Speaker 4: I see a lane for you, like I can see.

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Speaker 4: Vivik's what thirty seven years old. He's super smart, he's

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Speaker 4: a multi hundred millionaire. He's obviously had success in many

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Speaker 4: different fields. I think Rond DeSantis, you guys know this.

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Speaker 4: I think he is the best governor in the country.

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Speaker 4: During COVID, he got everything.

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Speaker 2: Right, and you know, you know what I'm you know

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Speaker 2: what I've seen that I didn't anticipate, but I understand

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Speaker 2: and I've seen it a lot. You have a lot

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Speaker 2: of people for whom their political reality right now on

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Speaker 2: the GOP side is Ron DeSantis is a great governor.

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Speaker 2: Trump is the guy that we still need to fight

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Speaker 2: the demo machine. You know, online you'll see people say

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Speaker 2: DeSantis is a rhino when he sucks, and it's like, guys,

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Speaker 2: could you know that's a lazy argument. That's a lazy argument,

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Speaker 2: Like that's just not He's a very good governor. He's

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Speaker 2: a Republican. But is Trump the champion that the base

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Speaker 2: wants for this fight against the Democrat machine. That people

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Speaker 2: can say yes to that and still think that DeSantis

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Speaker 2: that young kid has done a better job than anybody

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Speaker 2: could have expected in Virginia. You know, there's there's room

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Speaker 2: for these things. It doesn't have to be this binary.

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Speaker 4: To land punches on Trump over policy, because Trump is

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Speaker 4: by and large motivating how people feel and once people

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Speaker 4: decide how they and I think, by the way, this

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Speaker 4: cuts against Trump some in twenty twenty four because but

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Speaker 4: in the primary itself, Trump is a He makes me

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Speaker 4: feel proud to be American. He makes it like it's

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Speaker 4: a feel thing. It's not a hey, well, what exactly

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Speaker 4: are you going to do on policy? As it pertains,

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Speaker 4: it's just a feel And it's hard to attack a

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Speaker 4: candidate who is winning based on feel. Does that make sense?

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Speaker 4: Like it's an emotional connection. People vote based on how

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Speaker 4: logic the vote. I mean, there's actually, yes, evidence and

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Speaker 4: mostly on how it makes them feel to cast that

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Speaker 4: this guy because you know, I like them, or I

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Speaker 4: trust him, or I want him in this or I

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Speaker 4: want her in this fight, whatever it may be.

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Speaker 2: Look, we got every line lit. Let's get to some

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Speaker 2: of that perspective that people bring to this. And also,

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Speaker 2: we have the head of Moms for Liberty MSNBC firing

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Speaker 2: firing off at Moms for Liberty over the weekend, Barack

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Speaker 2: blamed on groups like Moms for Liberty. There are no

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Speaker 2: book bands. We'll talk to you about all that in

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Speaker 2: the next hour. I think it's a really important debate.

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Speaker 2: This city is hemorrhaging people because of the taxes. This

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Speaker 2: And we got to Can I give you the numbers?

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Speaker 2: Can I give you the numbers? A server understand? I

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Speaker 4: I mean, because in order to be racist, you would

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Speaker 2: Right. So I don't even know what an example of

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Speaker 4: But in order for a test to be racist, there

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Speaker 2: Here's this is from the New York Post piece on this.

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Speaker 2: It gets even worse. I mean when you just also

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Speaker 2: way out another I mean, he was just leaving behind

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Speaker 2: even more stuff to just trash the city. And he's

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Speaker 2: such a nightmare. And I mean even Democrats have figured out,

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Speaker 2: you know, if they want to be safe walking down

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Speaker 2: charge of anything but the McLay. Think about this. If

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Speaker 2: you were an Asian test taker, and say the year

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Speaker 2: The other people that took the test, they had other jobs.

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Speaker 2: Somebody even went into teaching but they were given what

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Speaker 2: given for twenty years of work. The city of New

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Speaker 2: failed for free handing it to them. So you can

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Speaker 2: either work for twenty years and earn health care for

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Speaker 2: yourself and your family and do everything like some of

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Speaker 2: the test takers who passed did, or you can fail,

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Speaker 2: go do whatever other job you want and then get

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Speaker 2: a million or two million dollar pay day. And this

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Speaker 2: it's enraging you. And the fact that the city, the

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Speaker 2: fact that the lives in this city are so brainwashed

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Speaker 2: I just I think it's a disgrace. I think it's

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Speaker 2: an absolute disgrace. And the judge that pushed us through

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Speaker 2: feel good. It makes them think that they're social justice

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Speaker 2: can give people two million dollars for not doing anything

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Speaker 1: Clay Travis at buck Sexton making sense in an insane world.

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Speaker 2: So Clay brought this to my attention just a moment ago,

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Speaker 2: and I my first instinct was, is this like deep

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Speaker 2: fake stuff or is this AI or No? No, it's

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Speaker 2: it's real from what we understand. But here it is.

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Speaker 2: Here it is uh Trump because from the promise of

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Speaker 2: the Trump presidency is he's going to get revenge on

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Speaker 2: the government and those who have wronged him. And here

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Speaker 2: he is talking about former enemy of MAGA world, Hillary Clinton.

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Speaker 2: Play it.

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Speaker 5: So I took the name Crooked away from Hillary and

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Speaker 5: we gave her a new name, beautiful.

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Speaker 2: I call it beautiful. It's just beautiful.

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Speaker 5: But I took it away because I want it. I

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Speaker 5: don't believe in the same name for two people.

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Speaker 2: I don't like that.

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Speaker 5: And I've never done this before, you know I haven't,

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Speaker 5: And you have to live with that name for the

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Speaker 5: rest of your life. I'll go over the different names,

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Speaker 5: but I won't because many of them are now friends

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Speaker 5: of mine.

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Speaker 2: Okay, so some of he's not saying Hillary. Okay, just

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Speaker 2: to be clear, we got this one was a little bit.

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Speaker 2: Clay said that he was saying that Hillary, but he's

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Speaker 2: not saying Hillary was his friend. He's saying some people

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Speaker 2: he's given names to our his friend. But you know,

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Speaker 2: this is one of these moments where you play that

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Speaker 2: sound bite and you say to yourself, he's just he's

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Speaker 2: just funnier and more engaging to the other options, and

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Speaker 2: the value of that in the current political environment, how

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Speaker 2: do you even quantify that? Like, he's legitimately funny, he's

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Speaker 2: legitimately amusing, and he's not saying Hillary's his friend. So

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Speaker 2: to be clear, I thought that's what That's why I

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Speaker 2: thought it was an AI or a fake because you.

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Speaker 4: Know, I'm not the kind of guy to throw the

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Speaker 4: staff under the bus here, Buck, That's just not me.

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Speaker 4: You know, I would never but I'm totally gonna throw

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Speaker 4: him under the bus here. The headline is Trump says

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Speaker 4: Hillary is no longer crooked, crooked Hillary, but beautiful Hillary

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Speaker 4: because they are friends. That's the direct headline. Okay, So

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Speaker 4: but he was joking. He was joking, So that's what.

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Speaker 2: Just to be clear, I thought it was Ai or

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Speaker 2: I was like, what like, but no, he was making

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Speaker 2: a joke, which is why Trump is Trump.

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Speaker 4: Okay, So Trump there is to your point, you're one

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Speaker 4: hundred percent right, by far, the most entertaining person who

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Speaker 4: is running for president on the Republican side. Entertaining not

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Speaker 4: saying you agree with him. I'm not saying that you

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Speaker 4: have to approve of everything that he says. But he

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Speaker 4: is the most entertaining person running on the Republican side.

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Speaker 4: What I don't think anybody has.

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Speaker 2: Just shown me, is he the most entertaining person, entertaining

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Speaker 2: person who's ever been in politics in our lifetime. I mean,

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Speaker 2: maybe Reagan was as engaging.

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Speaker 4: But Jesse the body Venturo was pretty ridiculous back but

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Speaker 4: for presidential candidates.

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Speaker 2: Oh but Jesse venture is not funny. Trump is funny. Oh,

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Speaker 2: Jesse the body Ventura was pretty funny. Really. I hope

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Speaker 2: Jesse Body Ventura still live. We know. I think you're

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Speaker 2: on the spot, buddy.

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Speaker 4: I think he was pretty funny, but that's been a

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Speaker 4: long time ago. Ross Perrot was pretty funny back in

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Speaker 4: ninety two when he got nineteen percent.

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Speaker 2: Laugh with him funny or laugh at him funny. I

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Speaker 2: think he was pretty funny. I remember him having a

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Speaker 2: line like.

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Speaker 4: We got people at working, couldn't work at dairy queen driving,

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Speaker 4: you know, Cadillacs.

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Speaker 2: I was in college. I was in kindergarten, so I

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Speaker 2: don't remember this stuff as well. But what you've hit

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Speaker 2: on is important. I have not.

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Speaker 4: And so Trump is at fifty percent. Let's say Trump's

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Speaker 4: at fifty percent right now, which seems to be a

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Speaker 4: rough approximation of his of his tally, you are going

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Speaker 4: to have to out entertain Trump in order to end

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Speaker 4: up the nominee. Let me repeat this, because I don't

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Speaker 4: think you aren't gonna out policy Trump. DeSantis is way

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Speaker 4: more skilled at analyzing policy. Policy puts most people to sleep.

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Speaker 4: Now there are exceptions. You have to be able. So

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Speaker 4: DeSantis has got this interview coming up with Jake Tapper.

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Speaker 4: If I were giving advice to Ron DeSantis, I would say,

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Speaker 4: you need to turn that interview with Jake Tapper into

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Speaker 4: a WWE wrestling match, and you need to pick him

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Speaker 4: up and metaphorically body slam him during that interview, just

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Speaker 4: to cut through the noise, because I think DeSantis was

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Speaker 4: at his best. And you remember this buck during COVID

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Speaker 4: when he was with media that we're asking questions and

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Speaker 4: they were trying to set him up sixty minutes for instance,

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Speaker 4: the best I was gonna say that, the best DeSantis

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Speaker 4: moment in terms of you know, media cycle, I think

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Speaker 4: other than winning Florida by twenty points, which was pretty amazing,

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Speaker 4: But the best moment he had was when that reporter

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Speaker 4: tried the oh, but you got money drid.

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Speaker 2: K from you from public nothing, which is it? And

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Speaker 2: so that's why you rolled the vaccine out in publics

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Speaker 2: first or whatever, and he and he just he put

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Speaker 2: on a clinic with that one. Yes, it was you know,

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Speaker 2: I mean it was kind of trumpy. It was kind

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Speaker 2: of a trumpy moment.

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Speaker 4: So that that's my thing. If you are going to

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Speaker 4: get past Trump, I don't buy the fact that you're

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Speaker 4: going to get past Trump by being better than him

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Speaker 4: at policy, especially now that he's devoted and out to

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Speaker 4: fifty percent. Buck, what is the number one thing that Trump?

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Speaker 4: People love about Trump? He will fight for them, they believe,

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Speaker 4: whether whether it's accurate or not. I would say the

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Speaker 4: number one thing that Trump does is he fights for them,

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Speaker 4: and I'll build on that in a way here, Buck,

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Speaker 4: He not only fights for them, he often does it

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Speaker 4: in a funny way. And this is what the left

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Speaker 4: never is really gotten about Trump.

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Speaker 2: The fun.

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Speaker 4: There is a large element of fun associated with the

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Speaker 4: Trump campaign. Who seems who's running against Trump right now? Buck,

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Speaker 4: and seems like they're having fun?

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Speaker 2: The veck. Maybe that's it. Yeah, it's important because it

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Speaker 2: goes to movement building. I mean, there's infrastructure building for

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Speaker 2: the campaign. There's understanding the blocking and tackling and how

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Speaker 2: you have to move forward in a national campaign. And

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Speaker 2: then there's the sense that people want to be a

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Speaker 2: part of something, that there's a broader narrative, that there's

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Speaker 2: a reason why you're not just voting for a person,

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Speaker 2: but you're an evangelist for that political slate of ideas

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Speaker 2: in your day to day life, and that you want

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Speaker 2: to show up at parties. I mean the whole make

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Speaker 2: America Great Again MAGA world. And I remember I was

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Speaker 2: living in DC when Trump was in his for about

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Speaker 2: two years when Trump was in his first term, and

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Speaker 2: there was a real sense of you know, brotherhood and

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Speaker 2: sisterhood among all Trump supporters. There was a whole language

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Speaker 2: that people would use to talk about these things. There

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Speaker 2: was a sense that you could throw parties where you

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Speaker 2: talk policy but people are having fun and I mean

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Speaker 2: political events, right. That was it was both of these things.

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Speaker 2: So that's very that's very appealing and very powerful to people.

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Speaker 2: The policy level stuff one, I don't think. I think

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Speaker 2: you're right that it doesn't move the needle as much

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Speaker 2: as some people might assume. And then also there's a

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Speaker 2: lot of policy is easy to disagree on. Who's the

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Speaker 2: most fun?

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Speaker 4: People feel that one one hundred percent they do buck

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Speaker 4: And this is why the analogy I made for Trump

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Speaker 4: back in twenty sixteen was he remind to me of

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Speaker 4: a rapper, and a lot of people didn't get that,

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Speaker 4: and you even just kind of reacted to it.

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Speaker 2: But the way that I mean that is people who are.

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Speaker 4: Big fans of rap, they don't take everything that a

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Speaker 4: rapper says literally, and then people who are trying to

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Speaker 4: cancel rappers, they inevitably pull out rap lyrics and they're like,

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Speaker 4: but look at what he said here, and what they

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Speaker 4: miss is the word play and the fun and the

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Speaker 4: humor that often underlies the rapper. Whether we use Eminem,

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Speaker 4: But it is a that there is an expressiveness of

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Speaker 4: That's right, Buck very well said, do you remember there's

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Speaker 4: But what they're missing is the literal sense of the

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Speaker 4: co founder of Moms for Liberty. You guys, Bridget, first

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Speaker 4: of all, thanks for joining us. You've been in the

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Speaker 4: center of the media onslaught here of late, but I

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Speaker 4: first became aware of the organization Moms for Liberty where

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Speaker 4: I live in Franklin, Tennessee, because you guys were so

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Speaker 4: outspoken in fighting against mask mandates and ensuring that kids

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Speaker 4: were back in school. You were one hundred percent right

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Speaker 4: on all that. I've been a fan of your organization

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Speaker 4: ever since. I was one of those parents, not a mom,

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Speaker 4: but a dad who showed up and fought for liberty

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Speaker 4: for my kids in their public school in Williamson County, Tennessee.

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Speaker 2: Here.

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Speaker 4: Did you ever think that being a mom and fighting

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Speaker 4: for kids would end up being such a controversial position

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Speaker 4: to find yourself in Well.

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Speaker 6: You know, it's two things.

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Speaker 7: I think it's I'm not surprised in the education space

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Speaker 7: because as the left has had a domination over K

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Speaker 7: twelve education for decades.

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Speaker 6: I'm a school board member still in Sarasota, Florida.

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Speaker 7: That's Tina and Tiffany, who are also the co founders

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Speaker 7: and still leading the charge of Moms for Liberty, also

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Speaker 7: school board members and moms, so we saw behind the curtains.

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Speaker 6: So this was before necessarily everyone knew it was happening.

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Speaker 6: But what I find.

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Speaker 7: Hilarious though, is how desperate the left is to come

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Speaker 7: back and regain control by trying to disparage parents, moms

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Speaker 7: and dads who have never been active in the political

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Speaker 7: process who are just fighting to protect their children and

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Speaker 7: calling them every name under the sun.

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Speaker 6: It hopes to call them and it helps to shut

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Speaker 6: them down. But I can tell you the national summit.

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Speaker 7: That that we just had in Philadelphia, these moms and dads

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Speaker 7: are fired up. They're not backing down, and I think

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Speaker 7: it has the left really scared.

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Speaker 2: All right. So I wanted to call for Jensaki here

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Speaker 2: and let you respond to her. Play that clip.

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Speaker 8: Since the height of the COVID pandemic, schools, teachers and

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Speaker 8: administrators have all become the target of right wing anger.

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Speaker 8: That anger, no doubt, sparked the rise of organizations now

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Speaker 8: focused on taking over school boards, pulling books from the shelves,

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Speaker 8: and changing curriculums and schools across the country. Among the

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Speaker 8: largest of these new groups, which you may have heard of,

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Speaker 8: Moms for Liberty. Now. The group has declared itself as

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Speaker 8: a nonpartisan organization, and its name does sound innocuous enough.

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Speaker 8: Moms Great, sounds good, liberty awesome. Who doesn't like liberty?

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Speaker 8: Moms for Liberty. As the mom of two young kids,

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Speaker 8: that even sounds good to me. But this group brings

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Speaker 8: out the worst in people. The group says, this work,

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Speaker 8: all of this shouting, is the work of joyful warriors,

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Speaker 8: is what they call. It sounds a lot more to

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Speaker 8: me like pretty aggressive harassment.

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Speaker 2: I want to let you respond Bridget to MSNBC's Jensaki.

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Speaker 2: Here again, I.

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Speaker 7: Think the disparagement is their desperate attempts to try to

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Speaker 7: change you mentioned earlier about the book discussion. I have

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Speaker 7: them here, We show them around and walk around with

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Speaker 7: them to illustrate to people what we're talking about. Because

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Speaker 7: notice the Luft never ever talks about what it is

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Speaker 7: that we're trying to get out of the education out

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Speaker 7: of our public schools. They try to make it sound

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Speaker 7: like it's all innocent. The reality is that at the beginning,

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Speaker 7: when parents were getting in and they would read these

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Speaker 7: items in the paper or hear someone like jen Zaki

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Speaker 7: make this accusation, it is only growing the movement more

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Speaker 7: because these are people who aren't used to being in

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Speaker 7: the paper.

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Speaker 6: I've been in politics for a while now, so I'm

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Speaker 6: not as to it.

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Speaker 7: But these are people for the first time who have

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Speaker 7: been vilified and incorrectly disparaged, and then they go and

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Speaker 7: talk to their neighbors, and they go talk to their

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Speaker 7: neighbors because they know each other and they know that

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Speaker 7: they're caring about their children, and.

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Speaker 6: This only growing the movement even more so.

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Speaker 7: In Florida, we're really fortunate for the leadership that we've

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Speaker 7: had and Governor Ronda Santa's and state legislature been able

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Speaker 7: to put laws in place where we're able to protect

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Speaker 7: our students, and a lot of places across the country

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Speaker 7: are trying to follow suit so that we can restore

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Speaker 7: education back to our children's focus. Academic basics. It's across

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Speaker 7: party lions. Over sixty percent plus of Democrats, Independents, and

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Speaker 7: Republicans all believe educations on the wrong track, and they

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Speaker 7: want to get back to the basics. And that's what

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Speaker 7: some Moms for Liberty.

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Speaker 6: Is fighting for.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Bridget, we were just talking about Disney and the

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Speaker 4: idea that we would have ever had a woke Walt

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Speaker 4: Disney company seem crazy. You mentioned Florida and the battle

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Speaker 4: with Ron DeSantis down there. What do you think as

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Speaker 4: a parent, because I've got three relatively young kids myself,

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Speaker 4: and I'm kind of in disbelief that we've ever entered

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Speaker 4: into a place where when a new Disney movie comes out,

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Speaker 4: I have to think, oh, is this age appropriate? Should

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Speaker 4: I even take my kids to go see it? Isn't

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Speaker 4: that kind of emblematic in general of the newfound struggle

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Speaker 4: that parents find themselves in.

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Speaker 2: We don't even know hardly who our allies are.

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Speaker 6: The one hundred percent.

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Speaker 7: So I have three children under the age of ten,

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Speaker 7: and so are the same thing goes you wanted to.

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Speaker 7: There are certain established areas or companies or organizations that

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Speaker 7: you felt safe.

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Speaker 6: School was one of those places, by the way, and

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Speaker 6: all the not.

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Speaker 7: We're finding that we have to pull back the onion

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Speaker 7: and vet everything more meticulously because there are specific agendas

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Speaker 7: being pushed that are.

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Speaker 6: Really intended to sexualize our children.

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Speaker 7: They only have a short amount of time to be kids,

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Speaker 7: and we need to fight very hard his parents and

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Speaker 7: his grandparents and aunts and uncles to protect the next

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Speaker 7: generation of leaders so that they can enjoy their youth,

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Speaker 7: understand how to be critical thinkers, and build upon those

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Speaker 7: foundations without having these sexualized liberal agendas put their throat

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Speaker 7: through organizations and public education.

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Speaker 2: You know, Barack Obama. Bridget shared a tweet out where

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Speaker 2: he was decrying all of the book banning that is

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Speaker 2: going on, and this of course is meant to be

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Speaker 2: a shot at not just desantist policy in Florida, but

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Speaker 2: organizations like yours claiming that you are banning books. What

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Speaker 2: is the reality of the position of monster liberty? And

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Speaker 2: when the left, whether it's MSNBC, Obama or the Biden

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Speaker 2: White House, talks about book bans, what are they really

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Speaker 2: talking about.

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Speaker 7: So at the end of the day, the word is

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Speaker 7: used to sensationalize and create emotion to people where they

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Speaker 7: want to stop the conversation and not really get down

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Speaker 7: to the depths of what parents are pushing back on,

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Speaker 7: what the material is that is so alarming. I'm now

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Speaker 7: on the advisory board for Moms for Liberty as an

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Speaker 7: initial co founder, and one of the aspects that we

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Speaker 7: talk about is truly just about ensuring that parental rights

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Speaker 7: at every level of government, and that includes to make

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Speaker 7: sure public education has the barriers and stays within the

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Speaker 7: inside those guidelines. That is respectful of all the diverse

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Speaker 7: communities that we serve at a public school, which have

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Speaker 7: different religious backgrounds, political backgrounds, and cultural backgrounds. And I'll

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Speaker 7: tell you one thing that the Lofts has not been

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Speaker 7: able to do that we have found through this fight,

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Speaker 7: through the parental rights fight, is we're unifying people of

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Speaker 7: all different backgrounds based on the great they want this

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Speaker 7: to be able to children the way they see fit,

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Speaker 7: versus the government raising their children or putting in instilling

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Speaker 7: certain beliefs or moral beliefs that are that run contrary

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Speaker 7: to many families that serve.

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Speaker 2: Bridgid Ziegler, VP of School Board Programs at the Leadership

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Speaker 2: Institute and co founder and advisory board member of Moms

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Speaker 2: for Liberty, Bridget keep up the good work. All Right Tunnel.

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