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Speaker 1: Andie Martinez in Real Life Podcast. This episode and conversation

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Speaker 1: is powered by I Do Say, Hey guys, We're back.

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Speaker 1: This is Edgie Martinez IRL podcast. This is a takeaway

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Speaker 1: episode around our g Z Jay g Z Jenkins conversation

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Speaker 1: that we recorded. We recorded this in August. I know

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Speaker 1: since then, Jez has filed for divorce, and I know

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Speaker 1: a lot of people are interested in why and what

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Speaker 1: happened there, and I'm sure that will unfold in the

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Speaker 1: months to come. And I'm so sad to hear about that.

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Speaker 1: By the way, I just the biggest bummer, the biggest bummer.

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Speaker 1: And the thing is that from this conversation that we

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Speaker 1: had with Jez, he's really evolving as a human being.

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Speaker 1: Like he's just in a different place in his life

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Speaker 1: than he was probably last year, probably the year before that.

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Speaker 1: When somebody's changing that much, it's sometimes life changes too,

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Speaker 1: And so you know, I don't want to I don't

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Speaker 1: want to assume I know anything that's going on in

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Speaker 1: his his marriage or what happened there. But it was

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Speaker 1: interesting to see such evolution in him as a human being.

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Speaker 1: And I think the book Sometimes when you write a book,

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Speaker 1: it really forces you to, like look at yourself really

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Speaker 1: is therapeutic. I always say this, even when I wrote

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Speaker 1: my book. I always say to people, even if you

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Speaker 1: don't ever put it out, even if you're not famous,

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Speaker 1: even if you think nobody cares about your book, everybody

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Speaker 1: should write a memoir because it forces you to look

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Speaker 1: at your life and look at the things that you repeat.

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Speaker 1: It reminds you of who you are in a weird way.

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Speaker 1: It really helps you kind of frame the things you

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Speaker 1: need to work on. This is really something about writing

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Speaker 1: your life down on paper. And I see such a

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Speaker 1: shift in Jez from that. So, yes, he did this book.

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Speaker 1: I have a lot of takeaways. Do you guys want

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Speaker 1: to start yours first or what? By the way, I'm

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Speaker 1: here with Brittany my producer Nila Simone.

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Speaker 2: Yes, okay, I want to start. I want to start

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Speaker 2: with this is a bar that he said early on.

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Speaker 2: I was like, Wow, he said success is for you

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Speaker 2: and significance is doing for others. And I was like, dang,

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Speaker 2: that's that's really deep because I don't think a lot

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Speaker 2: of people realize, like there're.

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Speaker 1: Everybody wants to be successful, everybody wants Do you want

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Speaker 1: to be significant?

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Speaker 3: I want to be significant? And I think it's true.

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Speaker 2: Like that's even in what is it the Four Law

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Speaker 2: of Agreements? What is it you know I'm talking about. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I think it's the Four Law of Agreements. But one

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Speaker 2: of it is.

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Speaker 1: Ges reads a lot of those books. Oh maybe that's

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Speaker 1: where he got it for sure, No, for sure, But

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Speaker 1: he's doing the work. That's you know, you find the

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Speaker 1: work where you find it.

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Speaker 2: But they say to do selfless acts and that is

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Speaker 2: what will bring you the things that you really want

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Speaker 2: in life. So that's why I was like, significance is

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Speaker 2: what we should be striving for, not success.

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Speaker 1: That is a bar. Like that, I love it. There

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Speaker 1: was a lot of things in here.

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Speaker 4: That's also the path to significance doesn't always look the

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Speaker 4: same as success, because you could be significant in people's

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Speaker 4: like a doctor, yeah, exactly.

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Speaker 1: Word a couple of things. First of all, Jez is

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Speaker 1: a g he has been for quite some time. He

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Speaker 1: used to be young Jez. Now HE'SZ. But I thought

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Speaker 1: it was interesting when he said it's like he's friends

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Speaker 1: down with g Z, especially like you know, basketball players

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Speaker 1: and it's cool to hang out with a rapper like Jesus, Like, yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's my man. You know, jez is the kind of

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Speaker 1: artist that guys want to hang out with, like he's Jeez,

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Speaker 1: He's He's snow Man, He's And he was just saying

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Speaker 1: like he'd be cool with Lebron and he's like, I'd

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Speaker 1: be hanging out with Lebron and he don't even know

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Speaker 1: me because I don't talk. I say three words, he said,

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Speaker 1: I say three words. That's you know, like how you

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Speaker 1: how I'm gonna be a man and you don't even

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Speaker 1: know who I am. Yeah, And so he was so

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Speaker 1: guarded because being in the streets and had the life

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Speaker 1: dope and interesting to watch to watch him open up

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Speaker 1: like that because I've been in a view with him since,

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Speaker 4: First of all, the fact alone that he did this

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Speaker 3: He showed you enough that he was prepared to talk

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Speaker 1: But he still has such a way to go because

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Speaker 1: and I think, you know, people can probably relate to this.

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Speaker 1: It's like we protect ourselves so we don't always let

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Speaker 1: when he talks about grief, and you know, he's had

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Speaker 1: a lot of lost man, his mom, his grandmother, his friends,

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Speaker 1: is one of his guys who put him on you know,

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Speaker 1: committing suicide was very close to him. So many people,

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Speaker 1: so much death, and he just couldn't feel it. He's

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Speaker 1: like he wouldn't. He didn't cried at his mother's funeral,

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Speaker 1: like he could nothing. He couldn't. He don't feel it.

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Speaker 1: And he still hasn't really figured out how to deal

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Speaker 1: another takeaway from this episode something that he said he

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Speaker 1: See if you can find the part so we can

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Speaker 1: get his wording right. But when he says about what

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Speaker 1: is the one thing, like when it's all over and

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Speaker 1: the book, the real book, the end of the book

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Speaker 1: is there. What is the thing that, if you could

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Speaker 1: it did one thing to change people's lass? What is

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Speaker 1: the one lesson, the one thing.

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Speaker 5: Live forward that empties Like I gave everything I had

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Speaker 5: in my kids, my family and my supporters and everybody

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Speaker 5: know that I was an honorable man like I was.

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Speaker 5: I was, I was the one like I came and

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Speaker 5: I did what was supposed to be done for for

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Speaker 5: us like I didn't. I didn't do it for me,

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Speaker 5: Like I'm not doing this for a person again, I

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Speaker 5: had a great life before this.

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Speaker 1: I love that it's simp well, but I like that

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Speaker 1: it's it's the idea of like just leaving it all

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Speaker 1: feel fully, I don't know how you leave it all

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Speaker 1: grief that's just bottled deep inside of you, excuse me,

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Speaker 1: I'm speaking. Sorry, I'm speaking of the pod And so

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Speaker 1: I hope for him, My prayer for him is that

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Speaker 1: he at some point gets some of that out, lighten

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Speaker 1: the load a little bit. But I think he's doing

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Speaker 2: It also sounds like no regrets too. That too, no regrets.

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Speaker 2: Do everything you can in this life while you can.

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Speaker 1: Another takeaway that I really enjoyed the conversation about the

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Speaker 1: art of seduction. Huh yeah, that's really good. I know.

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Speaker 1: It's not his I know. And it's cute that he's

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Speaker 1: like studying, studying and having tea with like Bob Green

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Speaker 1: and Robert Green. Robert Yeah, Bob Green. His name is

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Speaker 1: Bob excuse me, got it? I have DMS. So have

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Speaker 1: you guys?

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Speaker 4: Really?

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Speaker 1: Yes, my life. You want to see my dms. They're crazy.

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Speaker 1: I'm strange. People not strange. There's different people, all types.

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Speaker 3: Of nobody would actually be interesting on the pot as well.

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Speaker 1: I'm trying. I said that a during this conversation with Jeezy,

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Speaker 1: I said, I'd love to have him, but Gez is

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Speaker 1: And in one of the chats, I guess he said

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Speaker 1: it was telling him about the art of seduction and

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Speaker 1: how you are supposed to meet your partner sometimes and

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Speaker 1: it's not about matching energy. So if your partner is

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Speaker 1: having like bad energy, but that you can't meet them

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Speaker 1: with that. You have to change the energy, bring a

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Speaker 1: new you know, energy to that. Because I'm guilty of this.

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Speaker 1: You know, like if somebody I'm closet and I pull

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Speaker 1: up and they're like, yeah, what's up, I'm like, oh,

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Speaker 1: what's up? You know what I'm saying? It sucks. I'm

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Speaker 1: like a Unfortunately, it's like a weakness of mine. I'm

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Speaker 1: a little too sensitive to other people's energy. So if

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Speaker 1: find that's only natural. It is natural. But if you're

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Speaker 1: if you mindfully do something different. So if your partner

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Speaker 1: or somebody is like, yeah, man, today is whack, then

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Speaker 1: boost it, boost the whole thing. Yeah. That was terrible,

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Speaker 3: I think I want to hear that.

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Speaker 1: But something about the way Jesz said it, it made

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Speaker 1: me believe him because he was like, yeah, because you know,

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Speaker 1: I'm Carrisby to play the part. Let Jesus explain it.

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Speaker 1: Because he's playing, he explained the part better than me

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Speaker 1: drop one of those jewels for the fellas. Please.

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Speaker 5: No, he was just saying that, you know, if you

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Speaker 5: if your wife is ever you know, like you know,

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Speaker 5: in a totally different light because when she was in

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Speaker 5: not to say that it amas all the time that

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Speaker 5: being you, And I'm like, yo, that shouldn't work.

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Speaker 1: I believe him there when he said that, I thought

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Speaker 1: that was cute. I wanted to send that to around there.

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Speaker 1: I didn't know. I feel like around there, I'm rumpy.

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Speaker 1: Don't be grumpy too. You had to change the mood here,

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Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 2: I like that. That's a good relationship advice.

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Speaker 1: I thought it was. I thought it was that reminded me.

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Speaker 4: This is offshoot, But that reminded me when you spoke

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Speaker 4: to Michelle Obama and how she was saying that in

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Speaker 4: relationship it's not always fifty to fifty.

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Speaker 1: Most of the time, it's not.

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Speaker 4: Fifty to fifty. That's a bar seventy something. So I

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Speaker 4: don't want that to be a bar is no, because

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Speaker 4: but it's true.

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Speaker 1: Any truth is a bar Nila. You don't want to

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Speaker 1: go into something with something that's false. By the way,

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Speaker 1: that's not Michelle Obama. She took that from Brene Brown.

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Speaker 1: That's a Brene Brown. Oh, relationships are not fifty to fifty.

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Speaker 1: It's circulated. We'll take it for all we could get it.

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Speaker 1: But there's things that we talk about on this pod

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Speaker 1: that they think is me. It's not. I took it

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Speaker 1: from somebody else and I heard it. But that's okay.

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Speaker 1: I'm fine with that because it's really just about sharing information.

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Speaker 1: You got hopefully connects with somebody. And maybe the way

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Speaker 1: I said it connected with somebody differently than the way

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Speaker 3: The messenger matters.

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Speaker 1: The messenger matters. Yeah, and it's just about sharing information. Man,

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Speaker 1: we all need information. Yeah, anyway, Brenate Brown said, I

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Speaker 1: don't know how we got to Brene Brown. This jezy episode.

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Speaker 1: But listen takeaway to take away, we find the way

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Speaker 1: we find it. Brenee Brown was like, sometimes I say

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Speaker 3: I actually really like that.

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Speaker 1: And he has to like he has to hold things

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Speaker 1: because it's not always fifty to fifty. Sometimes I'm tired.

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Speaker 3: I got to communicate my number, y'all. You want me

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Speaker 4: All right?

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Speaker 3: Today I'm out of Oh man, if you got.

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Speaker 4: To ask me, that means I'm giving off bad vibe

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Speaker 4: because you're asking me, like you you good?

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Speaker 1: What number you had to Dick Jurney? Oh no about you.

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Speaker 1: The point is fifty to fifty is a lie. It's

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Speaker 1: a fabrication. So if you go into a relationship, you're like,

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Speaker 1: this is not fair. Okay, you should know that going in.

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Speaker 1: It's never fifty to fifty all the time. Anyway, I

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Speaker 1: know you're disappointed. Nihilis sorry. We're here for you though,

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Speaker 1: all right. Any other takeaways from mister Jenkins.

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Speaker 2: Oh, I liked him talking about living for love versus

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Speaker 2: he kind of moved a little more grimier and was

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Speaker 2: And I'm assuming that everybody has the same upbringing as me. Anyway,

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Speaker 2: So when he said that, I was like, Wow, that's

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Speaker 1: She got a lot out of that. I didn't think

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Speaker 4: That makes sense that she got that from JYZ because

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Speaker 4: about how not to live in here like naivety, naivete

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Speaker 4: when not everybody's on that same frequency, not because it's

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Speaker 2: He said, he's just not realizing there's good people in

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Speaker 1: That because his history tells him that's not true. I

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Speaker 1: That's not good at any point, and they're not sharing

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Speaker 1: There's no vulnerable ability in it is. It's not for

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Speaker 3: I hope one of these things are resonating.

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Speaker 1: I hope one thing, if one thing from this takeaway

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Speaker 1: episode resonates for you. We did our job here. I

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Speaker 1: He's just so charming and lovely in the room when

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Speaker 1: we're talking. Everybody. We stayed. We hung out after. You know,

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Speaker 1: it was just a good time. We had a good vibe.

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Speaker 1: I love Jaz, So thank you, guys. If you haven't

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Speaker 1: checked out the episode, you can. Angie Martinez I r L.

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Speaker 1: Audios were all podcasts I heard. The video is on YouTube. Subscribe,

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Speaker 1: tell a friend and yeah, next week should we tell

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Speaker 1: the most next week? It's a woman. That's all you get.

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Speaker 1: That's it. Yeah, that's it. I'm sorry, trash woman.

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Speaker 4: Right now, you need to follow the I g Angie

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Speaker 1: And this is fine not being your producer making sure

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Speaker 1: that in case something goes wrong, she doesn't want to say,

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Speaker 1: you'll find out soon. Thanks thanks so much, AKA talk Less.

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Speaker 1: Bye guys,