1 00:00:01,000 --> 00:00:04,440 Speaker 1: It's the best of two pros and a couple. Joe 2 00:00:04,480 --> 00:00:08,280 Speaker 1: with Lamar Arings and Rady Whinn and Jonas Knox on 3 00:00:08,440 --> 00:00:10,800 Speaker 1: Box Sports Radio. 4 00:00:13,440 --> 00:00:15,280 Speaker 2: How the hell we feeling here on a Monday morning? 5 00:00:15,400 --> 00:00:21,439 Speaker 2: Good good, post Turkey Day, post Turkey Day. Yeah, Turkey mortem. 6 00:00:20,520 --> 00:00:25,840 Speaker 3: Excited, fired up, I'm good. I feel rested. How about yourself? Yeah, 7 00:00:25,920 --> 00:00:26,920 Speaker 3: feeling I mean it was. 8 00:00:27,280 --> 00:00:30,800 Speaker 2: It was probably the first time I've gotten more than 9 00:00:31,680 --> 00:00:33,760 Speaker 2: six hours sleep in consecutive days. 10 00:00:33,840 --> 00:00:36,800 Speaker 3: Really, See, I can't do it. Yeah, my bladder, it's 11 00:00:36,840 --> 00:00:39,600 Speaker 3: so funny. My body is okay, Like my mind is 12 00:00:39,640 --> 00:00:42,680 Speaker 3: okay with with staying sleep on our days off. My 13 00:00:42,840 --> 00:00:45,479 Speaker 3: bladder is still on the same Uh, it's still on 14 00:00:45,520 --> 00:00:48,360 Speaker 3: the same schedule. Oh yeah, what does that mean? That 15 00:00:48,400 --> 00:00:51,760 Speaker 3: means I gotta get up, I gotta go. I gotta 16 00:00:51,800 --> 00:00:55,240 Speaker 3: go handle that. And I generally just stay awake. I 17 00:00:55,400 --> 00:00:56,480 Speaker 3: just start working. 18 00:00:56,200 --> 00:00:57,880 Speaker 4: On business and you handle that, don't you. 19 00:00:58,000 --> 00:01:02,000 Speaker 3: I do, absolutely, you gotta have it. Yeah. I saw 20 00:01:02,040 --> 00:01:04,720 Speaker 3: you guys dancing on the sideline on Saturday. I was 21 00:01:04,760 --> 00:01:08,200 Speaker 3: really excited for you guys dancing. Yeah, you guys, you 22 00:01:08,200 --> 00:01:10,959 Speaker 3: don't remember dancing on the sideline in ann Arbor dancing. 23 00:01:11,000 --> 00:01:13,360 Speaker 5: We were trying to mess with Rob for one of 24 00:01:13,360 --> 00:01:15,280 Speaker 5: his hits at one point, which he kind of turned 25 00:01:15,280 --> 00:01:16,040 Speaker 5: the tables on us. 26 00:01:16,760 --> 00:01:18,800 Speaker 3: Maybe it was more so. I mean I saw you guys. 27 00:01:19,000 --> 00:01:21,520 Speaker 3: I could have sworn you guys were jamming on the sideline, 28 00:01:21,520 --> 00:01:22,360 Speaker 3: and then I it might. 29 00:01:22,280 --> 00:01:23,640 Speaker 4: Have been we might have been jamming. 30 00:01:23,760 --> 00:01:26,360 Speaker 5: There was one song we'd hear it everywhere we went, 31 00:01:26,880 --> 00:01:29,360 Speaker 5: and we actually learned the name of it when we're 32 00:01:29,400 --> 00:01:33,080 Speaker 5: in Penn State. Well, the nice young man young men 33 00:01:33,319 --> 00:01:34,920 Speaker 5: one of the fans there told us, he's like, this 34 00:01:34,959 --> 00:01:35,200 Speaker 5: is the. 35 00:01:35,160 --> 00:01:37,160 Speaker 4: Name of that song. Oh oh gosh, man, we were 36 00:01:37,200 --> 00:01:38,360 Speaker 4: asking for the entire year. 37 00:01:38,480 --> 00:01:40,640 Speaker 3: Huh. Well, of course it would have been someone that 38 00:01:40,720 --> 00:01:43,080 Speaker 3: Penn State that would have been courteous and kind enough 39 00:01:43,360 --> 00:01:46,520 Speaker 3: to offer that that uh information Toppy Valley. 40 00:01:46,520 --> 00:01:47,880 Speaker 4: They called it way correct. 41 00:01:48,280 --> 00:01:51,000 Speaker 5: The group that actually sits up where a set was, 42 00:01:51,440 --> 00:01:53,200 Speaker 5: it's the same group of guys. 43 00:01:53,080 --> 00:01:55,000 Speaker 4: That was there last year. They're they're a funny group 44 00:01:55,040 --> 00:01:57,640 Speaker 4: man there. They were there. They're kind of I think 45 00:01:57,640 --> 00:01:59,320 Speaker 4: they're from uh, I think they're from Jersey. 46 00:01:59,600 --> 00:02:01,400 Speaker 5: Nice, but they would like try to like heckle a 47 00:02:01,440 --> 00:02:03,160 Speaker 5: little bit, but then they're like cool just to kind 48 00:02:03,160 --> 00:02:04,960 Speaker 5: of talking ball and all that most of the time 49 00:02:05,000 --> 00:02:07,080 Speaker 5: gambling too, which is kind of funny. I was like, 50 00:02:07,080 --> 00:02:08,680 Speaker 5: you should you just talk to Jonas. He doesn't win 51 00:02:08,760 --> 00:02:10,120 Speaker 5: many but if you fade him, you'll win a lot 52 00:02:10,120 --> 00:02:10,399 Speaker 5: of money. 53 00:02:10,520 --> 00:02:10,720 Speaker 4: Yeah. 54 00:02:10,720 --> 00:02:13,320 Speaker 3: I didn't this weekend, that's for sure. That you do 55 00:02:13,520 --> 00:02:16,799 Speaker 3: know that Jonas did the cow Herd Show when we 56 00:02:16,800 --> 00:02:19,079 Speaker 3: were all off, and and you know, it's just been 57 00:02:20,400 --> 00:02:24,280 Speaker 3: it's been a whirlwind of of just all kinds of 58 00:02:24,800 --> 00:02:29,560 Speaker 3: praise and and just you know, happiness around Jonas. 59 00:02:29,840 --> 00:02:30,480 Speaker 4: Isn't doing that? 60 00:02:30,639 --> 00:02:31,160 Speaker 3: Oh yeah? 61 00:02:31,320 --> 00:02:33,760 Speaker 4: Did you have any dynamic guests Jonas? Is that why? 62 00:02:33,800 --> 00:02:35,680 Speaker 4: Like what made the show so special? Well? 63 00:02:35,680 --> 00:02:38,519 Speaker 2: I think we went live to Ann Arbert at one point, 64 00:02:38,960 --> 00:02:44,600 Speaker 2: got a got a Scott stap performance wow by by 65 00:02:44,639 --> 00:02:49,359 Speaker 2: somebody there. So somebody who's you know, just a Heisman finalist, 66 00:02:49,760 --> 00:02:50,919 Speaker 2: uh TV star? 67 00:02:51,800 --> 00:02:55,600 Speaker 3: Heang you had Brady On? I was talking about Rob Stone. 68 00:02:55,600 --> 00:02:57,440 Speaker 3: What do you mean? Yeah, Brady On, what are you 69 00:02:57,440 --> 00:03:02,080 Speaker 3: talking about? See? That's fed up man clown. You didn't 70 00:03:02,960 --> 00:03:05,240 Speaker 3: so I had to wait for Saturday. Huh. Oh yeah, 71 00:03:05,280 --> 00:03:06,959 Speaker 3: And I had the request to be all about the 72 00:03:07,000 --> 00:03:07,600 Speaker 3: way you have. 73 00:03:07,639 --> 00:03:10,799 Speaker 5: To tell you well, I actually he had said something 74 00:03:10,800 --> 00:03:12,000 Speaker 5: to me and then I resell I was like, yeah, 75 00:03:12,000 --> 00:03:13,480 Speaker 5: anything I could do to help you, let me know. 76 00:03:14,560 --> 00:03:17,320 Speaker 3: So very interesting. He thought it was somebody else. I 77 00:03:17,320 --> 00:03:20,280 Speaker 3: think the truth comes out. He'd gotten confused. Otherwise he 78 00:03:20,320 --> 00:03:21,000 Speaker 3: wouldn't have come on. 79 00:03:21,160 --> 00:03:23,280 Speaker 5: But the odd thing was like you didn't want to sing, 80 00:03:23,520 --> 00:03:25,919 Speaker 5: and like you actually sang, like you ran a band. 81 00:03:26,080 --> 00:03:28,520 Speaker 2: I was laying out for you, Like, uh, you know 82 00:03:28,520 --> 00:03:30,680 Speaker 2: I were laying out for him. My singing days are over. 83 00:03:31,280 --> 00:03:33,680 Speaker 2: So I learned my lesson being a part of a 84 00:03:33,720 --> 00:03:35,960 Speaker 2: bad band. But you know, it's fine. 85 00:03:36,040 --> 00:03:37,000 Speaker 3: Listen. It was all good. 86 00:03:37,440 --> 00:03:39,960 Speaker 2: It was a fun time, fun weekend for all. Fun 87 00:03:40,000 --> 00:03:42,840 Speaker 2: weekend in the NFL and college football, and a fun 88 00:03:42,880 --> 00:03:46,080 Speaker 2: weekend if you're a Philadelphia Eagle fan, because man oh man, 89 00:03:46,760 --> 00:03:49,840 Speaker 2: they somehow figure out ways to win games. 90 00:03:49,920 --> 00:03:52,600 Speaker 3: You remember how I told you though that Philly fans, 91 00:03:52,680 --> 00:03:56,880 Speaker 3: PA fans are like real A holes, like real A holes. Yeah, 92 00:03:56,920 --> 00:03:59,080 Speaker 3: how many times do you think they were? Like if 93 00:03:59,160 --> 00:04:04,280 Speaker 3: you we suck? Oh wait wait wait, oh we're great, 94 00:04:04,480 --> 00:04:08,840 Speaker 3: We're good, We're good. Okay, now you we sucked. You 95 00:04:08,840 --> 00:04:10,440 Speaker 3: remember we were making that's a Philly fan. 96 00:04:10,600 --> 00:04:13,480 Speaker 2: We were making the case after the Monday Night came 97 00:04:13,520 --> 00:04:17,600 Speaker 2: against the Chiefs and we were saying, man, Philly just 98 00:04:17,760 --> 00:04:20,200 Speaker 2: somehow figures out, Like, I don't know that I trust 99 00:04:20,200 --> 00:04:22,520 Speaker 2: another team in a close game than Philly in the 100 00:04:22,600 --> 00:04:23,200 Speaker 2: league right now. 101 00:04:23,200 --> 00:04:27,520 Speaker 3: It's kind of like the mentality of the streets of Philadelphia. Man, 102 00:04:28,240 --> 00:04:33,320 Speaker 3: like close close close close, Uh you scratch your scrounge 103 00:04:33,440 --> 00:04:35,880 Speaker 3: like like almost like you know, what comes to mind. 104 00:04:35,920 --> 00:04:41,719 Speaker 3: The the physical embodiment of it is Joe Frasier. You know, 105 00:04:41,800 --> 00:04:45,640 Speaker 3: it's like you're just you're tough, your hard nose, you're 106 00:04:45,680 --> 00:04:48,760 Speaker 3: a bully, You're you're gonna take the punches, but you're 107 00:04:48,760 --> 00:04:52,560 Speaker 3: going to deliver the blows. That's Philly. That's like literally 108 00:04:52,600 --> 00:04:55,520 Speaker 3: what their football team is this year. And I actually 109 00:04:55,560 --> 00:04:59,599 Speaker 3: find them very fun to watch. I enjoy watching Philly play. 110 00:04:59,680 --> 00:05:03,839 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean the first off, they're extremely talented. They're 111 00:05:03,920 --> 00:05:06,960 Speaker 4: extremely talented. It's it's fun to watch. 112 00:05:06,920 --> 00:05:08,440 Speaker 5: Them in my opinion, because you've got some of the 113 00:05:08,440 --> 00:05:11,159 Speaker 5: best players in the league on one team, sure, and 114 00:05:11,160 --> 00:05:13,760 Speaker 5: they've drafted well, they've developed well, so that you kind 115 00:05:13,760 --> 00:05:15,320 Speaker 5: of I mean, at least for any of us that's 116 00:05:15,560 --> 00:05:17,960 Speaker 5: followed college football, you get to see a guy like 117 00:05:18,040 --> 00:05:20,280 Speaker 5: Jordan Davis playing the next level and you're like, yep, 118 00:05:20,400 --> 00:05:22,240 Speaker 5: still has a pretty big impack. 119 00:05:23,360 --> 00:05:26,599 Speaker 3: He's so big he damned there killed himself when he 120 00:05:26,640 --> 00:05:30,640 Speaker 3: fell on his belly. Yeah, that fell on his belly. 121 00:05:31,080 --> 00:05:32,560 Speaker 4: He don't the wind out of himself. 122 00:05:32,640 --> 00:05:36,320 Speaker 3: He rolled over it. Chris was sitting there like, is 123 00:05:36,360 --> 00:05:39,160 Speaker 3: he okay? I said, man that let me just get 124 00:05:39,200 --> 00:05:41,480 Speaker 3: put this in perspective. And I told them how big 125 00:05:41,520 --> 00:05:44,360 Speaker 3: he was and how much he waited, And they're like, oh, 126 00:05:44,480 --> 00:05:46,680 Speaker 3: so where you said that? He knocked the wind out 127 00:05:46,680 --> 00:05:50,479 Speaker 3: of himself. That was it. He was moving fast. 128 00:05:51,360 --> 00:05:52,960 Speaker 4: I mean they say the bigger they are, the harder 129 00:05:53,000 --> 00:05:53,560 Speaker 4: they fall. 130 00:05:54,200 --> 00:05:56,760 Speaker 3: There's not a lie. They say grizzly bears run faster 131 00:05:56,839 --> 00:05:58,240 Speaker 3: than thoroughbred horses too. 132 00:05:59,360 --> 00:06:03,760 Speaker 4: Downhill Townhill. Yeah, I think the thing I kind of 133 00:06:03,800 --> 00:06:06,320 Speaker 4: came away with was one. 134 00:06:07,760 --> 00:06:11,440 Speaker 5: Jalen Hurts plays with like a sense of poison confidence 135 00:06:12,440 --> 00:06:14,919 Speaker 5: that's just the fun to watch, easier to root for. 136 00:06:16,120 --> 00:06:18,640 Speaker 5: There's just something about him, man, and like the entire 137 00:06:18,760 --> 00:06:23,560 Speaker 5: team embodies him as a leader, because there's a stark 138 00:06:23,640 --> 00:06:29,039 Speaker 5: contrast between Hurts and obviously Nick Sirianni like it's fire going, 139 00:06:29,720 --> 00:06:33,240 Speaker 5: like very outgoing. Ye, Like it's it's I mean, it'll 140 00:06:33,240 --> 00:06:35,600 Speaker 5: be telling people off. I think I saw him in 141 00:06:35,640 --> 00:06:38,200 Speaker 5: the tunnel. He was yelling at people in Kansas City. 142 00:06:38,800 --> 00:06:44,320 Speaker 5: So it's just two completely different personalities. And Hurts has 143 00:06:44,400 --> 00:06:48,320 Speaker 5: such a cool, calm and collected demeanor, and I think 144 00:06:48,320 --> 00:06:50,560 Speaker 5: everyone kind of embodies that because they feel that and 145 00:06:50,600 --> 00:06:52,760 Speaker 5: they see like, all right, if they get. 146 00:06:52,560 --> 00:06:54,599 Speaker 4: The ball, we're gonna win. 147 00:06:55,240 --> 00:06:57,080 Speaker 5: He's gonna drive down and he's gonna find a way 148 00:06:57,120 --> 00:06:59,200 Speaker 5: of making a play to make it happen. I mean, 149 00:06:59,240 --> 00:07:00,440 Speaker 5: I look bad on. 150 00:07:00,400 --> 00:07:03,440 Speaker 4: That game, and I just say it's literally it was the. 151 00:07:03,400 --> 00:07:10,360 Speaker 5: Difference between Buffalo's last series in regulation and they're bringing 152 00:07:10,480 --> 00:07:11,200 Speaker 5: all out blitz. 153 00:07:12,040 --> 00:07:15,760 Speaker 4: Gabe Davis is running the corner, and look, you know, 154 00:07:16,040 --> 00:07:16,560 Speaker 4: if you're. 155 00:07:16,480 --> 00:07:18,440 Speaker 5: Josh Allen, you like him to drift back and throw 156 00:07:18,480 --> 00:07:20,640 Speaker 5: it up to a spot because he's gonna get hit 157 00:07:20,640 --> 00:07:21,600 Speaker 5: and he's going to be able to stand in there 158 00:07:21,640 --> 00:07:23,760 Speaker 5: and get the ball off where the corner is going 159 00:07:23,800 --> 00:07:26,080 Speaker 5: to be. He threw it more like he was going 160 00:07:26,160 --> 00:07:28,960 Speaker 5: vertical up the field, So in one way, you'd like 161 00:07:28,960 --> 00:07:30,840 Speaker 5: to say, all right, you're the quarterback. If you throw 162 00:07:30,920 --> 00:07:34,080 Speaker 5: him more towards the corner, he's gonna fade to and 163 00:07:34,080 --> 00:07:36,880 Speaker 5: hopefully see it make a catch on it. Right the 164 00:07:36,960 --> 00:07:39,600 Speaker 5: other thing is Gabe Davis has to know it's blood 165 00:07:39,720 --> 00:07:43,000 Speaker 5: zero and has to look sooner. Like sometimes I said 166 00:07:43,040 --> 00:07:46,960 Speaker 5: this before. Wide receiver's gravest mistake when running routes, it's 167 00:07:47,000 --> 00:07:50,880 Speaker 5: not having any clue what's going on around the line 168 00:07:50,880 --> 00:07:54,520 Speaker 5: of scrimmage, not looking in saying wait, I'm one on one. 169 00:07:54,560 --> 00:07:56,520 Speaker 5: There's no safety out here. I need to look quick 170 00:07:56,520 --> 00:07:59,320 Speaker 5: because it's blood zero. There's an extra guy. They're not 171 00:07:59,320 --> 00:08:01,600 Speaker 5: gonna be a lock them. I need to look quicker 172 00:08:01,600 --> 00:08:04,480 Speaker 5: in my route. And he obviously didn't, like he had 173 00:08:04,480 --> 00:08:06,960 Speaker 5: no clue what the ball was. So that ultimately ends 174 00:08:07,040 --> 00:08:09,240 Speaker 5: up in the field goal and the way Philly drove 175 00:08:09,360 --> 00:08:11,200 Speaker 5: down at the end of the game. And I know 176 00:08:11,200 --> 00:08:13,600 Speaker 5: it's a long field goal for Jake Elliott, but I 177 00:08:13,600 --> 00:08:14,920 Speaker 5: was like, what's the gut In the overtime, I'm like, well, 178 00:08:14,960 --> 00:08:16,920 Speaker 5: it doesn't matter, like Philly's gonna win this game. 179 00:08:17,040 --> 00:08:18,480 Speaker 3: That was a long field goal. 180 00:08:18,560 --> 00:08:18,760 Speaker 6: Man. 181 00:08:18,800 --> 00:08:20,640 Speaker 3: I couldn't believe he made it in those conditions, and 182 00:08:20,720 --> 00:08:22,520 Speaker 3: it was he made it the ball too right. It 183 00:08:22,560 --> 00:08:25,360 Speaker 3: was moving, Yeah, that ball was moving like it almost 184 00:08:25,360 --> 00:08:27,120 Speaker 3: looked like it could have curved. It could have hit 185 00:08:27,160 --> 00:08:29,760 Speaker 3: a hard bank any different direction. Because of the way 186 00:08:29,760 --> 00:08:33,400 Speaker 3: to win was grabbing it. But man, talk about clutch. 187 00:08:33,559 --> 00:08:35,079 Speaker 3: Did they just win close games? 188 00:08:35,320 --> 00:08:36,080 Speaker 4: Well, it's not even that. 189 00:08:36,080 --> 00:08:38,120 Speaker 5: It's like the Bills can't win one an overtime out 190 00:08:38,160 --> 00:08:40,679 Speaker 5: in that he never won an overtime game, and so 191 00:08:40,920 --> 00:08:44,280 Speaker 5: it was like that little detail of that. But zero 192 00:08:44,400 --> 00:08:48,960 Speaker 5: play led ultimately an overtime ultimately to like game game over. 193 00:08:49,600 --> 00:08:51,600 Speaker 5: Like you knew Jalen Hurts. Once they got the ball 194 00:08:52,080 --> 00:08:53,640 Speaker 5: they were going to make enough plays to go win 195 00:08:53,679 --> 00:08:54,120 Speaker 5: that game. 196 00:08:54,720 --> 00:08:57,480 Speaker 3: I saw I needed to score. I was just wondering. 197 00:08:57,520 --> 00:08:59,000 Speaker 3: I was like, okay, are they going to get it in? 198 00:08:59,160 --> 00:09:00,240 Speaker 3: Are you going to get it in? And then they 199 00:09:00,320 --> 00:09:01,959 Speaker 3: kicked the field guy. I was like, man, this this 200 00:09:02,120 --> 00:09:02,480 Speaker 3: a rat. 201 00:09:02,600 --> 00:09:06,120 Speaker 2: Well it was when they did the coin flip for overtime. 202 00:09:06,440 --> 00:09:08,559 Speaker 2: The Bills won the toss and elected to receive it. 203 00:09:09,040 --> 00:09:14,600 Speaker 2: Brandon Gram's like don't matter, Like you knew their. 204 00:09:16,440 --> 00:09:19,880 Speaker 5: Robo and Nance didn't say anything about it, Like excuse me, no, 205 00:09:20,000 --> 00:09:23,960 Speaker 5: you know, Jason Garrett and Tarika, that was robodance. 206 00:09:24,000 --> 00:09:24,600 Speaker 4: That was Robanante. 207 00:09:24,640 --> 00:09:26,960 Speaker 5: Sorry, those games sort of playing into each other with 208 00:09:27,000 --> 00:09:30,160 Speaker 5: the with the howl that one start right, Yeah, yeah, 209 00:09:30,760 --> 00:09:32,520 Speaker 5: I thought they would have said something about it like, 210 00:09:32,520 --> 00:09:33,800 Speaker 5: I don't think they made mention of it. 211 00:09:33,840 --> 00:09:34,679 Speaker 4: Maybe they didn't hear it. 212 00:09:35,320 --> 00:09:36,320 Speaker 3: Well, no matter. 213 00:09:36,600 --> 00:09:38,760 Speaker 2: Josh Allen after the game, and Josh Allen did have 214 00:09:38,800 --> 00:09:40,640 Speaker 2: a great game. He had the interception, but he did 215 00:09:40,640 --> 00:09:43,360 Speaker 2: play really really well, scrambled, made a lot of plays 216 00:09:43,360 --> 00:09:45,520 Speaker 2: with his feet and you know, kept the Bills in 217 00:09:45,559 --> 00:09:47,079 Speaker 2: it and had him in a good position to try 218 00:09:47,120 --> 00:09:49,920 Speaker 2: and win the game. He spoke afterwards about just the 219 00:09:50,040 --> 00:09:53,280 Speaker 2: situation that Buffalo is in with their season on the line. 220 00:09:53,920 --> 00:09:57,240 Speaker 7: I'm extremely confident in our guys and the men that 221 00:09:57,280 --> 00:09:59,959 Speaker 7: we have in this locker room. You know, when when 222 00:10:00,120 --> 00:10:04,600 Speaker 7: understand where we're at, so we're gonna get things going again. 223 00:10:04,640 --> 00:10:07,840 Speaker 7: I think effort was there, execution was there. I just 224 00:10:07,840 --> 00:10:09,840 Speaker 7: gotta make a couple more plays, and you know, there's 225 00:10:10,040 --> 00:10:11,199 Speaker 7: a couple we wish we had back. 226 00:10:11,960 --> 00:10:14,360 Speaker 2: So does feel like Buffalo's in a little bit of 227 00:10:14,360 --> 00:10:17,480 Speaker 2: a tough spot here with the season. That was a 228 00:10:17,520 --> 00:10:20,200 Speaker 2: big one yesterday they could have won, they did not. 229 00:10:20,320 --> 00:10:23,040 Speaker 2: They've lost three of their last four, they fired a coordinator. 230 00:10:23,120 --> 00:10:25,480 Speaker 2: They're going to be at Kansas City coming up next week. 231 00:10:25,520 --> 00:10:28,160 Speaker 2: If they got Dallas the Chargers after that, so it's 232 00:10:28,200 --> 00:10:30,839 Speaker 2: going to be a tricky schedule for the Buffalo Bills 233 00:10:30,840 --> 00:10:33,239 Speaker 2: the rest of the way. If they get in, they're dangerous. 234 00:10:33,880 --> 00:10:36,760 Speaker 2: But if they don't, again, I just wonder what sort 235 00:10:36,760 --> 00:10:37,520 Speaker 2: of they have. 236 00:10:37,480 --> 00:10:39,679 Speaker 5: To win four I mean, what do you think they 237 00:10:39,679 --> 00:10:41,440 Speaker 5: have to win four games in order to be able 238 00:10:41,440 --> 00:10:42,679 Speaker 5: to get in ten. 239 00:10:42,840 --> 00:10:43,960 Speaker 3: It's a bipolar team. 240 00:10:44,000 --> 00:10:44,120 Speaker 4: Man. 241 00:10:44,200 --> 00:10:46,640 Speaker 3: Ten feels like the threshold if you want to be 242 00:10:46,640 --> 00:10:49,440 Speaker 3: in the conversation and you just never know. The only 243 00:10:49,480 --> 00:10:50,960 Speaker 3: thing that you know you're going to get is what 244 00:10:51,040 --> 00:10:52,640 Speaker 3: you don't know what you're going to get from the 245 00:10:52,679 --> 00:10:56,080 Speaker 3: Buffalo Bills. I hate to say it, but you get 246 00:10:56,280 --> 00:11:00,120 Speaker 3: you get a good team at times, you get a 247 00:11:00,120 --> 00:11:03,360 Speaker 3: a team that could actually be great at times. That 248 00:11:03,440 --> 00:11:06,160 Speaker 3: good team can win or lose games. That great team, 249 00:11:06,320 --> 00:11:09,280 Speaker 3: that team that shows greatness, they win games, they can 250 00:11:09,320 --> 00:11:12,400 Speaker 3: win big games. I just think that they are like 251 00:11:12,480 --> 00:11:15,520 Speaker 3: there's such an anomaly. I don't I don't. I can't 252 00:11:15,520 --> 00:11:17,920 Speaker 3: figure them out. Like you watch them, you know you 253 00:11:17,960 --> 00:11:20,760 Speaker 3: got you got pieces. Now they deal with injuries. I 254 00:11:20,800 --> 00:11:24,240 Speaker 3: get that, but they still show that they have the 255 00:11:24,240 --> 00:11:26,440 Speaker 3: ability to be able to compete at a high levels. 256 00:11:26,440 --> 00:11:28,920 Speaker 3: It's not like you were watching this game against Philly 257 00:11:28,920 --> 00:11:32,200 Speaker 3: and it's like oh, they're getting out class. Clearly they were. 258 00:11:32,360 --> 00:11:36,520 Speaker 3: They were very evenly matched. It looked like an evenly 259 00:11:36,640 --> 00:11:40,640 Speaker 3: matched game. But they didn't come out on top. And 260 00:11:41,040 --> 00:11:43,560 Speaker 3: at some point, and you know, I had to be 261 00:11:43,600 --> 00:11:45,559 Speaker 3: the guy that said, I feel like this team hit 262 00:11:45,559 --> 00:11:48,880 Speaker 3: its ceiling last year. But I just feel like I 263 00:11:48,920 --> 00:11:52,200 Speaker 3: see certain things that take place, like a game against 264 00:11:52,240 --> 00:11:56,640 Speaker 3: Philly that they could have pulled out. I mean, in 265 00:11:56,920 --> 00:11:59,120 Speaker 3: a couple of different instances, and I'll just go no 266 00:11:59,440 --> 00:12:03,920 Speaker 3: further than just the overtime. If they punched the ball in, 267 00:12:04,080 --> 00:12:06,280 Speaker 3: you don't even give the ball back to Jalen Hurts. 268 00:12:06,440 --> 00:12:08,080 Speaker 3: He doesn't even get it. He doesn't even get an 269 00:12:08,080 --> 00:12:12,000 Speaker 3: opportunity to be Jalen Hurts for Philly in the game. 270 00:12:12,160 --> 00:12:15,440 Speaker 3: But they weren't able to do that. And so to me, 271 00:12:15,520 --> 00:12:18,920 Speaker 3: I just think that when I look at him, it 272 00:12:19,040 --> 00:12:21,760 Speaker 3: just comes across as a team that has talent in 273 00:12:21,840 --> 00:12:25,840 Speaker 3: certain places. You have a franchise quarterback, but you just 274 00:12:25,920 --> 00:12:29,120 Speaker 3: have not been able as a team, as a franchise 275 00:12:29,559 --> 00:12:32,960 Speaker 3: figured out how to get over the threshold of where 276 00:12:33,000 --> 00:12:35,560 Speaker 3: you're at, which almost is in a way kind of 277 00:12:35,880 --> 00:12:38,480 Speaker 3: reminiscing of the teams that went to the Super Bowl 278 00:12:38,520 --> 00:12:39,679 Speaker 3: and couldn't win the Super Bowl. 279 00:12:41,000 --> 00:12:43,600 Speaker 5: You know, they moved on from Ken Dorsey and Joe 280 00:12:43,679 --> 00:12:47,079 Speaker 5: Brady's now had two games, and I got to be honest, like, 281 00:12:47,120 --> 00:12:49,640 Speaker 5: I don't know how different this team is what Joe 282 00:12:49,720 --> 00:12:53,280 Speaker 5: Brady called plays. I know at times they were a 283 00:12:53,280 --> 00:12:56,920 Speaker 5: complimentary of Joe Brady getting into a rhythm, but when 284 00:12:57,000 --> 00:13:01,920 Speaker 5: you really like go back and watch that game, what 285 00:13:01,960 --> 00:13:03,439 Speaker 5: you end up coming back to is. 286 00:13:03,640 --> 00:13:04,960 Speaker 4: It's still the same thing. 287 00:13:05,200 --> 00:13:06,520 Speaker 5: In order for the Bills to have a shot of 288 00:13:06,520 --> 00:13:09,080 Speaker 5: winning games, Josh Allen has to be superman. 289 00:13:09,760 --> 00:13:11,040 Speaker 4: He's gonna have to lead him in rushing. 290 00:13:11,320 --> 00:13:13,720 Speaker 5: He's gonna have to make plays downfield, you know, with 291 00:13:13,760 --> 00:13:16,960 Speaker 5: the football, or extend plays with his legs to throw downfield. 292 00:13:17,600 --> 00:13:18,680 Speaker 4: It's the same thing. 293 00:13:20,000 --> 00:13:22,520 Speaker 5: And I just I keep going back to like how 294 00:13:22,640 --> 00:13:27,040 Speaker 5: long is that sustainable? And I know they've been injured 295 00:13:27,160 --> 00:13:30,880 Speaker 5: on defense and that's played a role, but it just 296 00:13:31,000 --> 00:13:33,319 Speaker 5: it feels like it's always an uphill battle. He has 297 00:13:33,360 --> 00:13:37,240 Speaker 5: to do something that's spectacular in order for them to 298 00:13:37,320 --> 00:13:40,040 Speaker 5: be able to win games. And it's a tough world 299 00:13:40,120 --> 00:13:42,840 Speaker 5: to live in in the NFL, and so I'm sure 300 00:13:42,840 --> 00:13:44,560 Speaker 5: he feels it more than anyone and he's such a 301 00:13:44,600 --> 00:13:49,040 Speaker 5: special player. But I mean when it just it feels 302 00:13:49,080 --> 00:13:53,120 Speaker 5: like that's that's what they have to do every single week. Offensively, 303 00:13:53,760 --> 00:13:57,200 Speaker 5: There's there's no basic run game where they can get 304 00:13:57,200 --> 00:13:58,640 Speaker 5: it going consistently. 305 00:13:59,320 --> 00:14:00,920 Speaker 4: They're in that respect. 306 00:14:01,400 --> 00:14:05,200 Speaker 5: You know, Stefan Diggs gets eleven targets this week. The 307 00:14:05,280 --> 00:14:09,640 Speaker 5: previous week was eight for like four catches versus the Jets, 308 00:14:09,120 --> 00:14:13,400 Speaker 5: and you know, give Jets credit, but you go through 309 00:14:13,760 --> 00:14:17,200 Speaker 5: the season, there's games where he explodes and has big games. 310 00:14:17,240 --> 00:14:19,520 Speaker 5: There's games when he doesn't. And I don't know if 311 00:14:19,520 --> 00:14:22,280 Speaker 5: that's play calling. I don't know if that's you know 312 00:14:22,320 --> 00:14:25,080 Speaker 5: what you point to. I mean, obviously that was where 313 00:14:25,080 --> 00:14:28,520 Speaker 5: the finger was pointed earlier this year, But there is 314 00:14:28,640 --> 00:14:31,720 Speaker 5: just it's something off. It's like, outside of Josh Allen 315 00:14:31,800 --> 00:14:35,360 Speaker 5: showing up and being Superman every game, you don't see 316 00:14:35,360 --> 00:14:38,320 Speaker 5: the rest of that from whoever it is. That's that's 317 00:14:38,360 --> 00:14:40,360 Speaker 5: a part of it. But this one felt like a 318 00:14:40,360 --> 00:14:43,240 Speaker 5: backbreaker for Buffalo. I really felt like they thought they 319 00:14:43,240 --> 00:14:46,360 Speaker 5: were gonna win a regulation once it win overtime. As 320 00:14:46,400 --> 00:14:48,560 Speaker 5: Brendan Graham said, it didn't matter, don't. 321 00:14:48,320 --> 00:14:50,560 Speaker 3: Matter, Yeah, and they were in control for a lot 322 00:14:50,600 --> 00:14:53,240 Speaker 3: of the game. Too, and then you know they bounce back, 323 00:14:53,280 --> 00:14:55,840 Speaker 3: they retake the lead and get to overtime and it's 324 00:14:55,840 --> 00:14:59,200 Speaker 3: the same old source, such a long kick, and you 325 00:14:59,200 --> 00:15:02,560 Speaker 3: know they it just seemed like Philly was just confident 326 00:15:02,680 --> 00:15:05,440 Speaker 3: and just you know, like we're not even going to 327 00:15:05,520 --> 00:15:11,240 Speaker 3: take any real risk, any unnecessary and unnecessary plays or 328 00:15:11,320 --> 00:15:13,920 Speaker 3: risk to try to move the ball. They were like 329 00:15:14,080 --> 00:15:16,640 Speaker 3: very vanilla plays leading up to that field goal, and 330 00:15:16,680 --> 00:15:19,480 Speaker 3: he banged that thing, banged it right on out. Yeah. 331 00:15:20,120 --> 00:15:21,960 Speaker 5: I got a lot of respect for kickers, And I 332 00:15:22,000 --> 00:15:24,480 Speaker 5: mean this week in particularly, you started getting down this 333 00:15:24,480 --> 00:15:27,280 Speaker 5: this time of the season with the weather's like it is, 334 00:15:28,120 --> 00:15:29,480 Speaker 5: and you got to think about it too, man, like 335 00:15:29,480 --> 00:15:30,640 Speaker 5: they get one shot at that thing. 336 00:15:31,640 --> 00:15:33,880 Speaker 4: They had one shot and then they get out. 337 00:15:33,720 --> 00:15:35,400 Speaker 5: There and if they hit it, it's like they only 338 00:15:35,440 --> 00:15:38,760 Speaker 5: get applauded or appreciated for the kicks they hit. I mean, 339 00:15:38,760 --> 00:15:41,920 Speaker 5: it was fun watching everyone celbat Jake Elliott, but I'm like, man, 340 00:15:41,920 --> 00:15:43,680 Speaker 5: he misses that, It's not like anyone's come over and 341 00:15:43,720 --> 00:15:44,320 Speaker 5: talking to him. 342 00:15:44,800 --> 00:15:46,920 Speaker 4: And that's a tough life of a kicker. 343 00:15:47,120 --> 00:15:49,400 Speaker 2: You know, you think you think Philly fans are booing 344 00:15:49,440 --> 00:15:51,040 Speaker 2: him off the field if he misses. 345 00:15:50,760 --> 00:15:55,800 Speaker 3: It, Oh, bro, it's Philly fans man. 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But if you actually go and 370 00:17:26,040 --> 00:17:29,080 Speaker 2: do a deeper dive into the total yards and just 371 00:17:29,119 --> 00:17:31,960 Speaker 2: how the offense looked post to Matt Canada and the 372 00:17:32,160 --> 00:17:36,920 Speaker 2: first game since the Matt Canada firing, you can see 373 00:17:36,920 --> 00:17:39,480 Speaker 2: that there was clearly a difference difference. It looked like 374 00:17:39,520 --> 00:17:41,960 Speaker 2: it was a different football team on offense, at least 375 00:17:42,040 --> 00:17:43,920 Speaker 2: for that much. And so the Pittsburgh stay it was 376 00:17:43,960 --> 00:17:45,560 Speaker 2: actually like exciting plays. 377 00:17:48,240 --> 00:17:50,159 Speaker 5: I mean, I think the biggest thing was they just 378 00:17:50,200 --> 00:17:52,320 Speaker 5: pushed the ball down the field vertically right. It was 379 00:17:52,960 --> 00:17:55,679 Speaker 5: it was pretty simple, like you have the players to 380 00:17:55,880 --> 00:18:00,520 Speaker 5: do it, why not do it? And the offense gained 381 00:18:00,560 --> 00:18:03,439 Speaker 5: over four hundred yards the first time they've outgate an 382 00:18:03,920 --> 00:18:07,720 Speaker 5: opponent all season. Kenny Pickett, who's hasn't even been a 383 00:18:07,720 --> 00:18:10,560 Speaker 5: starter for two four years, he had the second most 384 00:18:10,640 --> 00:18:14,840 Speaker 5: production in his career. In the first game that Mike 385 00:18:14,920 --> 00:18:18,440 Speaker 5: Salvin's calling for the Pittsburgh Steels as their play caller, 386 00:18:19,760 --> 00:18:22,480 Speaker 5: I just wasn't that hard. Wasn't that something you know, 387 00:18:22,560 --> 00:18:24,560 Speaker 5: I didn't need to, like, you know, try to make 388 00:18:24,600 --> 00:18:26,520 Speaker 5: it any you know, more difficult than it needed to be. 389 00:18:27,680 --> 00:18:30,200 Speaker 5: You're you're breathing some new life into this team, into 390 00:18:30,200 --> 00:18:32,360 Speaker 5: this offense, and you're now seeing the rewards. 391 00:18:32,720 --> 00:18:38,040 Speaker 3: So, you know, when I watched the game and paid 392 00:18:38,080 --> 00:18:41,199 Speaker 3: attention to everything that was going on, I'm like, you know, 393 00:18:41,400 --> 00:18:47,040 Speaker 3: Jake Browning, he's a he's a fill in, but we've 394 00:18:47,040 --> 00:18:52,719 Speaker 3: seen backups step in and do some pretty interesting things 395 00:18:53,359 --> 00:18:56,680 Speaker 3: during the course of the time of the starter being out. 396 00:18:57,359 --> 00:19:00,359 Speaker 3: And you know, we were talking about well, people talked 397 00:19:00,400 --> 00:19:04,879 Speaker 3: about Rush and and how you know, maybe there's a 398 00:19:05,000 --> 00:19:09,000 Speaker 3: quarterback come people people. I won't say us on this show. 399 00:19:09,040 --> 00:19:14,080 Speaker 3: I'll say me. I said it on this show. 400 00:19:14,520 --> 00:19:17,680 Speaker 5: There could have been a quarterback playing Rush the band, 401 00:19:17,680 --> 00:19:18,960 Speaker 5: which showed us what was gonna hate on. 402 00:19:19,080 --> 00:19:20,520 Speaker 4: But they actually have some good hits. 403 00:19:20,560 --> 00:19:22,640 Speaker 3: They do have some good that we're playing. The Paul 404 00:19:22,680 --> 00:19:26,399 Speaker 3: Abdul song, Yeah, that was a good one too. It 405 00:19:26,440 --> 00:19:28,280 Speaker 3: was the band Rush. It was both of. 406 00:19:28,160 --> 00:19:30,800 Speaker 4: You because the Leite singers got the unique sound. 407 00:19:31,480 --> 00:19:33,840 Speaker 3: That's correct. Which, by the way, Sam will bring us 408 00:19:33,840 --> 00:19:36,840 Speaker 3: back to Rush one hundred, Let's make sure it's their 409 00:19:36,960 --> 00:19:37,560 Speaker 3: best ones. 410 00:19:41,720 --> 00:19:45,720 Speaker 2: Everyone talks about the drummer for Rush, but they base 411 00:19:45,800 --> 00:19:47,480 Speaker 2: playing like Eddie Lee. 412 00:19:48,000 --> 00:19:51,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, pretty good slaps. So but when you look at 413 00:19:51,760 --> 00:19:56,520 Speaker 3: this Bengals team, it's still the same team that basically, 414 00:19:57,119 --> 00:20:00,760 Speaker 3: you know, owned owned the Bills at at what I 415 00:20:00,760 --> 00:20:03,760 Speaker 3: believe is at the height of their being what they are, 416 00:20:04,359 --> 00:20:07,359 Speaker 3: own the Kansas City Chiefs at being the height of 417 00:20:07,800 --> 00:20:13,200 Speaker 3: what they are. They're all still there. Outside of Joe Burrow. 418 00:20:13,520 --> 00:20:15,520 Speaker 3: That's kind of a big deal. It's a big deal. 419 00:20:15,640 --> 00:20:18,480 Speaker 3: But your defense is still the same defense. You still 420 00:20:18,560 --> 00:20:21,320 Speaker 3: have a ton of talent on the outside, you still 421 00:20:21,320 --> 00:20:25,000 Speaker 3: got mixing in the backfield, you still have all the 422 00:20:25,080 --> 00:20:29,080 Speaker 3: elements to be able to put together a win. And 423 00:20:29,600 --> 00:20:31,680 Speaker 3: so to me, that's what I was really looking at, 424 00:20:31,760 --> 00:20:34,880 Speaker 3: is like, this is really it's a fine football team 425 00:20:34,920 --> 00:20:37,959 Speaker 3: that definitely is reeling from not having Joe Burrow, but 426 00:20:38,119 --> 00:20:41,320 Speaker 3: nonetheless it's still a very very good football team. They're 427 00:20:41,359 --> 00:20:45,080 Speaker 3: going to play defense, they played defense hard, and their 428 00:20:45,119 --> 00:20:49,959 Speaker 3: offense was well, you know, kind of serviceable. But you 429 00:20:50,000 --> 00:20:54,840 Speaker 3: look at what Pittsburgh brought to the table, and it 430 00:20:55,160 --> 00:20:59,480 Speaker 3: was more risk taking. Whoa, they took more risk, there 431 00:20:59,560 --> 00:21:03,320 Speaker 3: was more citement. The defense played the way the defense played. 432 00:21:03,440 --> 00:21:05,880 Speaker 3: As long as you have a healthy TJ. Watt, you've 433 00:21:05,880 --> 00:21:10,520 Speaker 3: got a chance to win. And to me that's you know, 434 00:21:10,600 --> 00:21:13,359 Speaker 3: you now have a two to two man backfield. And 435 00:21:13,440 --> 00:21:15,840 Speaker 3: most would say I think that when you're having success 436 00:21:16,040 --> 00:21:19,240 Speaker 3: as as a football team, especially if you're using your backfield, 437 00:21:19,560 --> 00:21:24,240 Speaker 3: you want to have two guys that can carry the load. Pause. 438 00:21:24,960 --> 00:21:27,680 Speaker 3: But with that being said, I just really think that 439 00:21:27,840 --> 00:21:31,760 Speaker 3: this this Pittsburgh team is a very, very sneaky team 440 00:21:32,240 --> 00:21:36,040 Speaker 3: and I don't look at them as a Super Bowl contender, 441 00:21:36,119 --> 00:21:38,680 Speaker 3: but I do look at them as a season spoiler. 442 00:21:39,280 --> 00:21:43,080 Speaker 3: They can spoil. They could possibly make it into which 443 00:21:43,440 --> 00:21:46,040 Speaker 3: not possibly, it looks as though they'll make it into 444 00:21:46,080 --> 00:21:49,120 Speaker 3: the playoffs, and they could be a team that spoils 445 00:21:49,160 --> 00:21:52,720 Speaker 3: somebody's playoff bid. That's what I look at and see 446 00:21:53,119 --> 00:21:56,480 Speaker 3: in this Steelers team right now. Well, Kenny Pickett spoke 447 00:21:56,600 --> 00:21:58,840 Speaker 3: after the game, Yeah he did. He spoke after the 448 00:21:58,880 --> 00:22:03,280 Speaker 3: game after his performance and the first edition the Pittsburgh 449 00:22:03,280 --> 00:22:06,080 Speaker 3: Steelers Post. Matt Canada let's take a list, okay. 450 00:22:06,119 --> 00:22:08,600 Speaker 9: Kind of flow of calls, like how coach Sully likes 451 00:22:08,600 --> 00:22:10,840 Speaker 9: to call games and our communication on the side line 452 00:22:10,880 --> 00:22:12,399 Speaker 9: is great, which he's been there with you know, my 453 00:22:12,480 --> 00:22:15,240 Speaker 9: right hand man since I got here. So the communication 454 00:22:15,280 --> 00:22:16,919 Speaker 9: has always been great with coach solely, and it's just 455 00:22:17,000 --> 00:22:18,520 Speaker 9: now that he has to call the plays. And obviously 456 00:22:18,560 --> 00:22:21,080 Speaker 9: it's just an adjustment. But felt like we handled it 457 00:22:21,080 --> 00:22:22,960 Speaker 9: really well. It's a lot of a lot of adversity, 458 00:22:23,000 --> 00:22:25,719 Speaker 9: a lot of things going on moving parts, but like 459 00:22:25,720 --> 00:22:27,280 Speaker 9: I said, it was, it was it felt like a 460 00:22:27,320 --> 00:22:29,119 Speaker 9: short week almost because you know when we got the 461 00:22:29,160 --> 00:22:31,119 Speaker 9: news and how quickly we all had to kind of 462 00:22:31,480 --> 00:22:33,919 Speaker 9: react to what happened and flush and move on and 463 00:22:33,920 --> 00:22:36,400 Speaker 9: get ready to go this week. So, you know, hats 464 00:22:36,440 --> 00:22:38,199 Speaker 9: off to our guys in our locker room that did that. 465 00:22:38,400 --> 00:22:43,560 Speaker 3: You mean coach Sully from from Houston via Baltimore Ravens. 466 00:22:43,840 --> 00:22:45,840 Speaker 3: That coach Mike Sullivan. 467 00:22:45,880 --> 00:22:49,960 Speaker 4: Mike, he's been in the NFL for he was a Giants. 468 00:22:50,640 --> 00:22:54,600 Speaker 3: It was Kulley that was the coach, David Cully. Okay, 469 00:22:54,800 --> 00:22:57,200 Speaker 3: they called him Sully. Okay, I was confused there. 470 00:22:57,280 --> 00:22:59,479 Speaker 5: They called him Sully too. Yeah, No, he's he's been 471 00:22:59,480 --> 00:23:01,760 Speaker 5: in the NFL for a long time. He started with 472 00:23:01,800 --> 00:23:04,080 Speaker 5: the Jaguars, I believe in the early two thousands and 473 00:23:04,119 --> 00:23:06,320 Speaker 5: then kind of worked his way up through. But it 474 00:23:06,359 --> 00:23:09,119 Speaker 5: was part of Super Bowl there with the Giants, the box. 475 00:23:10,160 --> 00:23:15,000 Speaker 3: You know that that's that's uh, that's flattering to put 476 00:23:15,040 --> 00:23:17,200 Speaker 3: out there. He's been my right hand man. I mean, 477 00:23:17,240 --> 00:23:18,400 Speaker 3: that's a vote of confidence. 478 00:23:18,480 --> 00:23:25,240 Speaker 5: Right anytime he's your quarterback coach, you know, that's that's huge. 479 00:23:25,520 --> 00:23:29,200 Speaker 5: You know you're so close with your quarterback coach. And 480 00:23:29,359 --> 00:23:31,200 Speaker 5: for me, it was ripped sheer when I first got 481 00:23:31,240 --> 00:23:33,600 Speaker 5: into the NFL. I mean I literally I sort of 482 00:23:33,600 --> 00:23:37,480 Speaker 5: got I bought a house that was probably a driver 483 00:23:37,600 --> 00:23:40,640 Speaker 5: and a wedge away from from where he lived, because 484 00:23:40,760 --> 00:23:42,639 Speaker 5: because I wanted to live close to where he was 485 00:23:42,680 --> 00:23:44,320 Speaker 5: so I could go see him in off hours and 486 00:23:44,680 --> 00:23:46,520 Speaker 5: talk to when I needed to grab a beer and 487 00:23:46,560 --> 00:23:47,159 Speaker 5: whatever it was. 488 00:23:48,080 --> 00:23:50,320 Speaker 3: I literally went took that into consideration. 489 00:23:50,680 --> 00:23:53,720 Speaker 5: Hell yeah, hell yeah, Like I like that was it 490 00:23:53,800 --> 00:23:54,720 Speaker 5: was that important to me. 491 00:23:54,840 --> 00:23:56,720 Speaker 4: And also I love rip I mean to this day 492 00:23:56,760 --> 00:23:57,840 Speaker 4: we still keep in touch. 493 00:23:58,400 --> 00:23:59,720 Speaker 3: You know, hey, coach, where you live? 494 00:23:59,800 --> 00:23:59,960 Speaker 2: Man? 495 00:24:00,240 --> 00:24:01,720 Speaker 3: Okay, well what's the address? 496 00:24:03,480 --> 00:24:05,560 Speaker 4: It was? It wasn't as creepy as that, But it 497 00:24:05,640 --> 00:24:07,680 Speaker 4: was like I was looking in that vicinity. 498 00:24:08,080 --> 00:24:10,280 Speaker 5: I mean, look, Braylan, Braylan was in that area too, 499 00:24:10,320 --> 00:24:12,399 Speaker 5: Brenan Edwards, because that was my guy I wanted to 500 00:24:12,480 --> 00:24:13,920 Speaker 5: I wanted to be close to one of the guys 501 00:24:13,960 --> 00:24:15,359 Speaker 5: I was gonna be building a relationship with. 502 00:24:15,520 --> 00:24:17,320 Speaker 3: You know, if I ever heard that y'all did a 503 00:24:17,320 --> 00:24:21,640 Speaker 3: street football game, I would be I mean, I'd be fan. 504 00:24:21,720 --> 00:24:23,639 Speaker 3: I mean, I'm already a fan of both of you guys, 505 00:24:23,640 --> 00:24:26,400 Speaker 3: but I would be way bigger fan if you told 506 00:24:26,400 --> 00:24:28,800 Speaker 3: me y'all lived in the same community and was actually 507 00:24:28,920 --> 00:24:31,880 Speaker 3: doing real life street football games. Who's gonna beat him 508 00:24:31,880 --> 00:24:33,760 Speaker 3: in Brailin. I mean those were I mean, I'm just 509 00:24:33,800 --> 00:24:37,040 Speaker 3: gonna tell you street football games. You can't just take 510 00:24:37,080 --> 00:24:40,639 Speaker 3: for granted that two NFL superstars will be able to 511 00:24:40,640 --> 00:24:43,640 Speaker 3: win that game. Just be honest with you, because they're 512 00:24:43,680 --> 00:24:44,960 Speaker 3: pretty competitive games. 513 00:24:45,000 --> 00:24:49,120 Speaker 5: Man, different rules, man, guys taking cheap shots and all. 514 00:24:49,520 --> 00:24:51,480 Speaker 3: You got to know how to use the craft articles. 515 00:24:51,640 --> 00:24:53,440 Speaker 3: You know, you got you got all where the light 516 00:24:53,520 --> 00:24:54,240 Speaker 3: poles are. 517 00:24:54,280 --> 00:24:57,199 Speaker 5: Like people be jumping off the curb like it's not 518 00:24:57,200 --> 00:24:59,720 Speaker 5: out of bounds, Like it's just it changes some places. 519 00:24:59,720 --> 00:25:02,520 Speaker 3: There's more gravel on the ground. You got to know 520 00:25:02,640 --> 00:25:05,159 Speaker 3: where you just there's just different rules that can make 521 00:25:05,200 --> 00:25:07,919 Speaker 3: it a little bit more difficult to be a polished 522 00:25:08,320 --> 00:25:12,240 Speaker 3: NFL football player. Man, I'll take my chances. You give 523 00:25:12,240 --> 00:25:15,240 Speaker 3: me Brady and Braidlen, I'll take my chances. Bombs. I'm good. 524 00:25:16,520 --> 00:25:19,200 Speaker 5: But the point is it's like he's he's gonna be 525 00:25:19,320 --> 00:25:21,480 Speaker 5: very complimentary and say that about him, Like Jim Zorn. 526 00:25:21,520 --> 00:25:23,320 Speaker 5: Here's a guy got close to as well. You know, 527 00:25:23,400 --> 00:25:26,480 Speaker 5: Tater Carl Smith, like all those guys. You spend so 528 00:25:26,680 --> 00:25:29,000 Speaker 5: much time with them. You know Adam Gase when he 529 00:25:29,040 --> 00:25:31,120 Speaker 5: was with us for a year in Denver. Like you 530 00:25:31,200 --> 00:25:33,560 Speaker 5: spend out, you end up knowing the guys in the 531 00:25:33,640 --> 00:25:35,840 Speaker 5: quarterback room better than you know your family. Like I 532 00:25:36,000 --> 00:25:40,920 Speaker 5: swear to God, I could tell you exactly how Derek Anderson, 533 00:25:41,160 --> 00:25:44,280 Speaker 5: Ken Dorsey, any of those guys, Brett Ratliff when he 534 00:25:44,320 --> 00:25:46,399 Speaker 5: was in there with us, Rich Partel, like any of 535 00:25:46,400 --> 00:25:47,680 Speaker 5: the quarterbacks who came through. 536 00:25:47,880 --> 00:25:48,920 Speaker 4: When you spend enough. 537 00:25:48,720 --> 00:25:52,679 Speaker 5: Time with them, you could literally talk about like how 538 00:25:52,680 --> 00:25:54,600 Speaker 5: they're gonna drink their coffee, how they were are the 539 00:25:54,720 --> 00:25:55,679 Speaker 5: morning person are they not? 540 00:25:56,200 --> 00:25:57,919 Speaker 4: You know, like are they gonna work out with you 541 00:25:57,920 --> 00:25:59,240 Speaker 4: in the morning. Are they after practice? 542 00:25:59,320 --> 00:26:02,960 Speaker 5: Like you knew so many little idiosyncrasies about those guys 543 00:26:03,000 --> 00:26:04,720 Speaker 5: because you sat in a room with them all and 544 00:26:04,760 --> 00:26:06,840 Speaker 5: you just talk about life, talk about ball like it 545 00:26:06,880 --> 00:26:11,680 Speaker 5: was so look that that relationship clearly is the easiest 546 00:26:11,680 --> 00:26:14,439 Speaker 5: one to see translate onto the field. It's why I 547 00:26:14,440 --> 00:26:15,879 Speaker 5: think if you're in OC and you're not in your 548 00:26:15,960 --> 00:26:19,479 Speaker 5: quarterback room, you're doing your team of disservice because that 549 00:26:19,520 --> 00:26:21,200 Speaker 5: guy needs to be an extension of you out there 550 00:26:21,200 --> 00:26:23,160 Speaker 5: in the field. And if he knows exactly how you're 551 00:26:23,200 --> 00:26:25,560 Speaker 5: thinking about things, then he's going to be able to 552 00:26:25,560 --> 00:26:27,520 Speaker 5: execute it and explain that too to guys in the 553 00:26:27,560 --> 00:26:31,000 Speaker 5: field in that moment. So it's you know, you could 554 00:26:31,000 --> 00:26:33,600 Speaker 5: see why it worked in a one game sample size, 555 00:26:34,560 --> 00:26:35,840 Speaker 5: but I'm really optimistic. 556 00:26:36,480 --> 00:26:37,920 Speaker 4: And there were and pick it. 557 00:26:37,880 --> 00:26:41,399 Speaker 5: Through some dimes, dude, dude, the ball he threw up 558 00:26:41,400 --> 00:26:43,720 Speaker 5: the sidelines to Pickings, who made a nice catch. I mean, 559 00:26:43,760 --> 00:26:45,520 Speaker 5: thank god he didn't. He almost got his legs rolled 560 00:26:45,600 --> 00:26:48,600 Speaker 5: up on. But I mean he threw some dimes and 561 00:26:48,640 --> 00:26:49,520 Speaker 5: you see it, and you go. 562 00:26:49,480 --> 00:26:50,200 Speaker 4: There, there it is. 563 00:26:50,680 --> 00:26:55,160 Speaker 5: It's been there time, yeah, the whole time, and now 564 00:26:55,200 --> 00:26:57,680 Speaker 5: you're finally starting to see it. So I'm happy for 565 00:26:57,920 --> 00:27:00,640 Speaker 5: Mike tom Win the Steers. Even though I literally grew 566 00:27:00,760 --> 00:27:02,600 Speaker 5: up with a lot of hate my heart for the 567 00:27:02,640 --> 00:27:05,480 Speaker 5: Pittsburgh Steel It's good to see them reaching their potential. 568 00:27:05,480 --> 00:27:05,640 Speaker 4: Though. 569 00:27:06,800 --> 00:27:08,800 Speaker 2: They're going to be a playoff team, yeah they are, 570 00:27:09,280 --> 00:27:12,600 Speaker 2: they should be. Their schedule is cake, I mean, I 571 00:27:12,640 --> 00:27:15,119 Speaker 2: don't want to say. They've got obviously Baltimore to finish 572 00:27:15,200 --> 00:27:17,960 Speaker 2: up the year and then Indianapolis. Speaking of backup quarterbacks 573 00:27:17,960 --> 00:27:20,359 Speaker 2: who have made an impact, Gardner Minshew's got them playing 574 00:27:20,920 --> 00:27:24,520 Speaker 2: right now. But man like, I like if ten is 575 00:27:24,520 --> 00:27:27,000 Speaker 2: the threshold, as we laid out and we talked about, listen, 576 00:27:27,040 --> 00:27:28,639 Speaker 2: if you get to ten wins, that's where you need 577 00:27:28,680 --> 00:27:30,000 Speaker 2: to get to if you want to be a playoff 578 00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:32,520 Speaker 2: team in the AFC. I mean, you just find three 579 00:27:32,560 --> 00:27:36,320 Speaker 2: wins easy Arizona, New England, and then since you gain 580 00:27:36,400 --> 00:27:38,840 Speaker 2: at home, there you go. And then if you can 581 00:27:38,840 --> 00:27:40,720 Speaker 2: get one of those other ones, we could be looking 582 00:27:40,760 --> 00:27:44,639 Speaker 2: at possibly an eleven win team who fired a coordinator 583 00:27:44,720 --> 00:27:48,160 Speaker 2: mid season and they're going to be a playoff team again. 584 00:27:48,359 --> 00:27:51,080 Speaker 2: Mike Tomlins got them back in the playoffs. It's kind 585 00:27:51,080 --> 00:27:53,840 Speaker 2: of wild man. And so now we get to see 586 00:27:53,880 --> 00:27:57,399 Speaker 2: how this thing moves, you know, goes moving forward. But 587 00:27:57,720 --> 00:28:00,280 Speaker 2: you know, Najie Harris was more involved yesterday. I just 588 00:28:00,680 --> 00:28:04,879 Speaker 2: I wonder if if it was just this, like what 589 00:28:05,000 --> 00:28:08,560 Speaker 2: were the conversations Like, was Matt Canada just not open 590 00:28:08,640 --> 00:28:12,600 Speaker 2: minded to hey, you know work this in, you know, 591 00:28:13,160 --> 00:28:14,040 Speaker 2: talk with so and so. 592 00:28:15,080 --> 00:28:18,520 Speaker 5: That is there's an art to how you call plays 593 00:28:18,520 --> 00:28:23,600 Speaker 5: in games. I've been around coordinators who are unbelievable game planning, 594 00:28:23,960 --> 00:28:26,439 Speaker 5: breaking down film to know what a defense is going 595 00:28:26,480 --> 00:28:29,320 Speaker 5: to do in a certain scenario, like all of that, 596 00:28:29,600 --> 00:28:32,399 Speaker 5: and you feel so prepared, so confident going into the game, 597 00:28:32,960 --> 00:28:34,119 Speaker 5: and then you get in the game that I'll call 598 00:28:34,119 --> 00:28:37,119 Speaker 5: into this place or there's no like rhythm and rhyme 599 00:28:37,200 --> 00:28:40,120 Speaker 5: to it and what they're doing. And there's an art 600 00:28:40,200 --> 00:28:42,880 Speaker 5: to being able to see the field, call plays, anticipate 601 00:28:42,920 --> 00:28:46,200 Speaker 5: what's happening like and kind of like the difference between 602 00:28:46,200 --> 00:28:49,120 Speaker 5: playing checkers and chess, right, you always want to be 603 00:28:49,160 --> 00:28:51,840 Speaker 5: setting things up for that next move and anticipating what 604 00:28:51,880 --> 00:28:55,040 Speaker 5: your opponent's doing. There's times when you feel like when 605 00:28:55,080 --> 00:28:57,760 Speaker 5: guys are out there and they're just calling plays, they're 606 00:28:57,760 --> 00:28:59,720 Speaker 5: just playing checkers. They're like one move at a time, 607 00:29:00,200 --> 00:29:02,200 Speaker 5: and they're not thinking about like this play is going 608 00:29:02,280 --> 00:29:03,800 Speaker 5: to set up this play with a double mover or 609 00:29:03,800 --> 00:29:06,240 Speaker 5: a shot off this run player off of this action. 610 00:29:07,120 --> 00:29:09,080 Speaker 5: I mean, there are some things you look at and 611 00:29:09,160 --> 00:29:11,760 Speaker 5: go all right, like you can see where the creativity 612 00:29:11,800 --> 00:29:14,560 Speaker 5: comes from. I mean even even just with like what 613 00:29:14,640 --> 00:29:17,320 Speaker 5: Joe Brady did. There's a few times in that Bills 614 00:29:17,360 --> 00:29:20,840 Speaker 5: game when they set up different actions and varieties of 615 00:29:20,880 --> 00:29:24,600 Speaker 5: screens and then the different players off of the same personnel, 616 00:29:24,680 --> 00:29:28,480 Speaker 5: same formation, like similar action, and they both hit and 617 00:29:28,480 --> 00:29:30,920 Speaker 5: you're going, yep, there it is like one was the 618 00:29:30,960 --> 00:29:33,600 Speaker 5: digs one I think came back to it was either 619 00:29:33,600 --> 00:29:36,600 Speaker 5: one of the tight ends. But you're watching it, You're 620 00:29:36,640 --> 00:29:39,680 Speaker 5: going all right, like there it is, like that's that's why, 621 00:29:39,880 --> 00:29:42,360 Speaker 5: like they elevated Joe Brady in that spot, is you 622 00:29:42,440 --> 00:29:45,280 Speaker 5: find like creative ways of finding a rhythm and keeping 623 00:29:45,280 --> 00:29:48,760 Speaker 5: the defense on their heels when you're going out there 624 00:29:48,760 --> 00:29:51,880 Speaker 5: calling things that like they've either seen before and then 625 00:29:51,920 --> 00:29:54,720 Speaker 5: trying to build off of so you're trying to catch them, 626 00:29:54,800 --> 00:29:56,719 Speaker 5: you know, sleep or catch them out of position. 627 00:29:57,680 --> 00:30:01,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, just just the out there. Since we're 628 00:30:01,320 --> 00:30:07,280 Speaker 3: talking about the new newly rejuvenated offense, of the Pittsburgh Steelers. 629 00:30:08,240 --> 00:30:11,880 Speaker 3: You do know that the Ravens had the Jags, the Niners, 630 00:30:12,240 --> 00:30:17,120 Speaker 3: the Dolphins, and the Steelers consecutively to end out the season. 631 00:30:17,760 --> 00:30:22,400 Speaker 3: Tough schedule, man, that is one hell of a tough 632 00:30:22,440 --> 00:30:24,080 Speaker 3: schedule to have to go down the end. 633 00:30:25,200 --> 00:30:27,160 Speaker 4: Who's got a harder schedule? Them or Kansas City? 634 00:30:28,600 --> 00:30:31,040 Speaker 3: That's I would say that's as hard as hard gets 635 00:30:32,000 --> 00:30:35,479 Speaker 3: to have the Jaguars the way they're playing and the 636 00:30:35,520 --> 00:30:37,360 Speaker 3: forty nine Ers the way they're playing. 637 00:30:38,000 --> 00:30:40,240 Speaker 4: Do you know the schedule the rest of the r 638 00:30:40,280 --> 00:30:41,000 Speaker 4: I think tell me. 639 00:30:41,240 --> 00:30:43,240 Speaker 3: I mean, I just think that is Baltimore's schedule is 640 00:30:43,280 --> 00:30:45,760 Speaker 3: more difficult. It's just hard to It's hard to say 641 00:30:45,800 --> 00:30:47,600 Speaker 3: that there would be way more different if. 642 00:30:47,480 --> 00:30:49,440 Speaker 5: Dallas is on Kansas City schedule than Yes, I think 643 00:30:49,520 --> 00:30:51,600 Speaker 5: LaVar is gonna save Baltimore as the Fortunes. 644 00:30:51,760 --> 00:30:53,400 Speaker 3: No, I'm not. I'm not going to hate on Dallas. 645 00:30:53,440 --> 00:30:56,680 Speaker 3: I think Dallas is playing very very fine football right now. 646 00:30:57,800 --> 00:30:59,640 Speaker 3: I think they're up there. I just would say this 647 00:30:59,680 --> 00:31:03,000 Speaker 3: would be difficult schedule. To say that there's one harder 648 00:31:03,480 --> 00:31:06,760 Speaker 3: than this one, I mean, unless you got Philly in 649 00:31:06,840 --> 00:31:09,360 Speaker 3: there somewhere. Trying to say the Steelers are gonna win that. 650 00:31:09,600 --> 00:31:12,000 Speaker 3: I mean, I'm just saying that, bro. Like, if you 651 00:31:12,040 --> 00:31:15,040 Speaker 3: look at who the Steelers have left and you mentioned it, 652 00:31:15,040 --> 00:31:17,200 Speaker 3: it is what kind of cake walk? 653 00:31:17,920 --> 00:31:20,160 Speaker 4: Why did you stop saying the Stellers Never? 654 00:31:21,480 --> 00:31:26,520 Speaker 3: I never say still I never say Steelers like steel metal. 655 00:31:26,640 --> 00:31:28,880 Speaker 4: You don't see how you were you were saying Stiller. 656 00:31:28,720 --> 00:31:31,520 Speaker 2: Stillers, man, I mean, if they make the playoffs and 657 00:31:31,560 --> 00:31:35,600 Speaker 2: they make a legitimate run, can we place the Steelers 658 00:31:35,680 --> 00:31:37,520 Speaker 2: polka song every single day? 659 00:31:37,600 --> 00:31:40,520 Speaker 3: Why do you say the polka though? Can you play 660 00:31:40,560 --> 00:31:43,520 Speaker 3: the the poka? That's what it's called. Can you play 661 00:31:43,560 --> 00:31:45,920 Speaker 3: the one that's the here we go? Do we even 662 00:31:45,960 --> 00:31:48,520 Speaker 3: have the hare we go Pittsburgh Steelers song? Who wants that? 663 00:31:48,560 --> 00:31:49,320 Speaker 3: When you get the poka? 664 00:31:49,360 --> 00:31:49,840 Speaker 4: What do you mean? 665 00:31:50,040 --> 00:31:52,880 Speaker 3: Who wants that? We want it? 666 00:31:53,120 --> 00:31:54,080 Speaker 4: Here we go? 667 00:31:54,960 --> 00:32:01,760 Speaker 3: Boom boom, there we go. That's just a chant. That's 668 00:32:01,840 --> 00:32:04,000 Speaker 3: just a check. That's just a chant. 669 00:32:07,280 --> 00:32:08,480 Speaker 4: We go there. 670 00:32:10,520 --> 00:32:18,920 Speaker 3: Here, here we got Steelers. Here we go, Hey Jonus, 671 00:32:19,040 --> 00:32:23,120 Speaker 3: Pittsburg's going the Zooper Bowl. Here we go. 672 00:32:23,680 --> 00:32:26,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, this is a real deal right here A way, 673 00:32:26,720 --> 00:32:28,360 Speaker 2: no way, I mean a real deal. 674 00:32:28,560 --> 00:32:30,720 Speaker 10: I mean, you gotta jump, you gotta clock your head. 675 00:32:30,760 --> 00:32:35,480 Speaker 10: You gotta jump. You gotta do this. You gotta do 676 00:32:35,520 --> 00:32:39,320 Speaker 10: that at the table, Pitts stealers, you gotta do that 677 00:32:39,400 --> 00:32:42,920 Speaker 10: right there. I don't even know what the hell that means, 678 00:32:43,040 --> 00:32:43,840 Speaker 10: but you gotta do. 679 00:32:43,760 --> 00:32:50,200 Speaker 3: That, start slinging meat balls around. I don't know why 680 00:32:50,200 --> 00:32:52,000 Speaker 3: I always felt like this is because I grew up 681 00:32:52,000 --> 00:32:55,000 Speaker 3: around Italian I just always felt like this, I mean 682 00:32:55,200 --> 00:32:58,280 Speaker 3: Italian type of salt, Like why is it? It gotta 683 00:32:58,280 --> 00:32:59,640 Speaker 3: be Italian because that's why I. 684 00:32:59,600 --> 00:33:03,560 Speaker 10: Grew up round disrespectful and we listened to songs like 685 00:33:03,640 --> 00:33:04,920 Speaker 10: isn't this what you do at the table? 686 00:33:04,960 --> 00:33:07,800 Speaker 3: Hey, Brady, I'd like to apologize to your family. I mean, 687 00:33:07,840 --> 00:33:09,560 Speaker 3: I don't think I'm assuming this is a town. I 688 00:33:09,560 --> 00:33:10,120 Speaker 3: don't feel like. 689 00:33:10,400 --> 00:33:12,360 Speaker 4: We already decided like Pocus not Italian. 690 00:33:12,680 --> 00:33:16,840 Speaker 3: We said it is Polish or something. It's like check check, yeah, 691 00:33:17,040 --> 00:33:20,240 Speaker 3: it's check. There's a lot of Polish people in Pittsburgh. 692 00:33:20,560 --> 00:33:24,000 Speaker 5: We went over this in a previous show, Yes, where 693 00:33:24,000 --> 00:33:25,160 Speaker 5: we learn Pocus. 694 00:33:24,840 --> 00:33:25,560 Speaker 4: Is not Italian. 695 00:33:25,760 --> 00:33:27,120 Speaker 3: I swear on everything. 696 00:33:27,280 --> 00:33:31,600 Speaker 4: I don't think the Pizons want to claim. 697 00:33:31,280 --> 00:33:33,560 Speaker 3: It, you know, I don't know, man, I don't think that. 698 00:33:33,680 --> 00:33:36,040 Speaker 4: I don't think the DeVito family. I don't know, man, 699 00:33:36,160 --> 00:33:37,440 Speaker 4: what's to claim it? I don't know. 700 00:33:37,520 --> 00:33:40,040 Speaker 3: I don't know that that's true. I mean they'll. 701 00:33:39,760 --> 00:33:41,600 Speaker 4: Claim Sinatra that, you know, some other. 702 00:33:41,720 --> 00:33:45,920 Speaker 3: But I don't know, Man, Pittsburgh Italian know that. 703 00:33:46,120 --> 00:33:47,680 Speaker 4: I don't know, Manoa. 704 00:33:47,880 --> 00:33:50,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that's what it should be. The Italian. 705 00:33:50,080 --> 00:33:51,800 Speaker 4: Don't think the pison's want that. 706 00:33:51,840 --> 00:33:54,920 Speaker 3: You might be right. You could be right Byza. I 707 00:33:54,960 --> 00:33:57,440 Speaker 3: don't know, though, you got to be like that one. 708 00:33:57,640 --> 00:34:02,560 Speaker 5: Hey, hey, quite possibly the best thing you saw yesterday 709 00:34:03,000 --> 00:34:07,360 Speaker 5: was the shots of the DeVito fa believable. It was 710 00:34:07,360 --> 00:34:10,040 Speaker 5: like I was like, is this is this like an 711 00:34:10,080 --> 00:34:11,280 Speaker 5: opening episode of Soprand? 712 00:34:12,840 --> 00:34:13,120 Speaker 3: Like that? 713 00:34:13,239 --> 00:34:14,200 Speaker 4: Right? It was awesome? 714 00:34:15,680 --> 00:34:18,400 Speaker 6: God, I was better in that game, that's for sure, 715 00:34:18,600 --> 00:34:22,480 Speaker 6: because man oh Man, be sure to catch live editions 716 00:34:22,480 --> 00:34:25,399 Speaker 6: of Two Pros and a Cup of Joe with Brady Quinn, 717 00:34:25,520 --> 00:34:28,800 Speaker 6: LeVar Errington, and Jonas Knox weekdays at six a m. 718 00:34:28,880 --> 00:34:30,840 Speaker 1: Eastern three am Pacific. 719 00:34:31,920 --> 00:34:35,760 Speaker 2: Was that the best edition of the game between Michigan 720 00:34:35,800 --> 00:34:37,960 Speaker 2: and Ohio State of all time? 721 00:34:38,400 --> 00:34:38,680 Speaker 3: Was that? 722 00:34:38,880 --> 00:34:39,040 Speaker 5: Was that? 723 00:34:39,160 --> 00:34:40,680 Speaker 3: All time? Yeah? 724 00:34:40,960 --> 00:34:43,719 Speaker 4: I don't know if I'm going that far. It was 725 00:34:43,760 --> 00:34:44,719 Speaker 4: a really good game. 726 00:34:44,800 --> 00:34:46,040 Speaker 3: It was a really dope game. 727 00:34:46,360 --> 00:34:47,760 Speaker 4: It was awesome. 728 00:34:49,840 --> 00:34:51,480 Speaker 5: And honestly kind of had a little bit of everything 729 00:34:51,480 --> 00:34:54,080 Speaker 5: that you're looking for, like momentum swings and kind of 730 00:34:54,080 --> 00:34:55,279 Speaker 5: the drama on everything else. 731 00:34:55,360 --> 00:34:58,080 Speaker 4: And I think that the one thing that killed. 732 00:34:57,840 --> 00:35:01,120 Speaker 5: Me was seeing Zach Zinner, who's the best offensive lineman 733 00:35:01,120 --> 00:35:03,640 Speaker 5: in the country, go down and a lot of people, 734 00:35:03,840 --> 00:35:05,919 Speaker 5: you know, who don't follow college football. He came back 735 00:35:05,960 --> 00:35:08,560 Speaker 5: for his senior year because they want a shot at 736 00:35:08,600 --> 00:35:12,719 Speaker 5: winning a national championship, and to have him go down, 737 00:35:12,719 --> 00:35:15,480 Speaker 5: he's gonna be a top draft pick, you know. I 738 00:35:15,520 --> 00:35:18,280 Speaker 5: don't know how this is gonna impact things moving forward. 739 00:35:18,320 --> 00:35:21,040 Speaker 5: I think he'll be fine, but you hate seeing that. 740 00:35:21,080 --> 00:35:22,200 Speaker 5: And it was a gruesome injury. 741 00:35:22,360 --> 00:35:24,840 Speaker 2: Was that a knee brace injury? Because he had the 742 00:35:24,920 --> 00:35:28,200 Speaker 2: knee brace on there was no give and I. 743 00:35:28,120 --> 00:35:32,880 Speaker 5: Mean he ended up fracturing both tibi a fibula, So damn. 744 00:35:33,560 --> 00:35:34,000 Speaker 4: I can't. 745 00:35:34,120 --> 00:35:37,359 Speaker 5: I can't go into the you know, specifics of whether 746 00:35:37,400 --> 00:35:40,440 Speaker 5: the DonJoy player or a role in that. But the 747 00:35:40,680 --> 00:35:42,879 Speaker 5: greatest thing is it just stinks when you see that. 748 00:35:42,880 --> 00:35:46,320 Speaker 5: That was like the only downside of the game. Outside 749 00:35:46,320 --> 00:35:48,240 Speaker 5: of that, it had like all the drama and intrigue 750 00:35:48,280 --> 00:35:50,759 Speaker 5: you're looking for. And I just I said it after 751 00:35:50,800 --> 00:35:53,440 Speaker 5: the game, and I thought the most the thing that 752 00:35:53,480 --> 00:35:55,759 Speaker 5: stood out the most to me was Shroon Moore and 753 00:35:55,840 --> 00:36:00,000 Speaker 5: his play calling and the aggressiveness at which he called 754 00:36:00,160 --> 00:36:02,399 Speaker 5: the game as their play caller, their interim head coach, 755 00:36:02,400 --> 00:36:05,240 Speaker 5: and their ow line coach. You know, he really did 756 00:36:06,000 --> 00:36:09,600 Speaker 5: early set the tone going for fourth downs. The half 757 00:36:09,640 --> 00:36:12,160 Speaker 5: back pass when he called it came at such a 758 00:36:12,160 --> 00:36:15,160 Speaker 5: moment where it was wide open. It was It's one 759 00:36:15,160 --> 00:36:16,759 Speaker 5: of those play calls in a big game where if 760 00:36:16,800 --> 00:36:20,080 Speaker 5: it doesn't go well, you blame them. Yeah, that that 761 00:36:20,280 --> 00:36:23,520 Speaker 5: stands out. Yeah, but what it does you then are 762 00:36:23,560 --> 00:36:26,680 Speaker 5: the genius And just to have the cahonas to do 763 00:36:26,719 --> 00:36:30,440 Speaker 5: it was incredible, And I thought it was just interesting 764 00:36:30,520 --> 00:36:34,520 Speaker 5: that for a guy who could be interviewing, depending on 765 00:36:34,560 --> 00:36:37,279 Speaker 5: what happens with Jim Harball after the season, could be 766 00:36:37,320 --> 00:36:39,480 Speaker 5: interviewing for the for the Michigan headge coaching job to 767 00:36:39,520 --> 00:36:43,200 Speaker 5: replace Jim Harbaugh. He really took it and ran with 768 00:36:43,280 --> 00:36:47,280 Speaker 5: it the past three weeks. And he was the difference. 769 00:36:47,400 --> 00:36:49,239 Speaker 5: Like if you look at between him him and Ryan Day. 770 00:36:49,280 --> 00:36:52,680 Speaker 5: I thought Ryan Day called that game and managed that 771 00:36:52,760 --> 00:36:54,520 Speaker 5: game extremely conservative. 772 00:36:54,640 --> 00:36:56,920 Speaker 3: Yes, he did, like I age. 773 00:36:57,480 --> 00:36:58,200 Speaker 4: I thought early in. 774 00:36:58,200 --> 00:37:00,759 Speaker 5: The game, there was a fourth down that I kind 775 00:37:00,800 --> 00:37:02,920 Speaker 5: of looked to coach Mine. I was like, I might 776 00:37:02,960 --> 00:37:06,560 Speaker 5: think about going for this. Now, granted, you make that 777 00:37:06,680 --> 00:37:08,560 Speaker 5: decision if you're the type of person that wants to 778 00:37:08,600 --> 00:37:12,520 Speaker 5: dictate things to your opponent. And that's more of how 779 00:37:12,560 --> 00:37:14,640 Speaker 5: I kind of see the game from time to time, 780 00:37:14,920 --> 00:37:17,160 Speaker 5: and especially the way the past two years have gone, 781 00:37:17,360 --> 00:37:19,680 Speaker 5: that could have been a statement play for Ohio State. 782 00:37:20,040 --> 00:37:22,400 Speaker 4: Now I understand why Ryan Day didn't. You're in your 783 00:37:22,440 --> 00:37:23,160 Speaker 4: own territory. 784 00:37:23,239 --> 00:37:27,319 Speaker 5: Your defense has been really good all year, so you're 785 00:37:27,360 --> 00:37:29,239 Speaker 5: betting that Michigan's not gonna be able to go the long, 786 00:37:29,280 --> 00:37:32,400 Speaker 5: hard way to get scores. But the reality was is 787 00:37:32,400 --> 00:37:35,160 Speaker 5: when Michigan needed to they did, and in large part 788 00:37:35,239 --> 00:37:39,640 Speaker 5: because what Ryan Day wasn't willing to do, Sharon Moore was, 789 00:37:40,239 --> 00:37:43,000 Speaker 5: and he was willing to take those chances on fourth downs. 790 00:37:43,000 --> 00:37:45,360 Speaker 5: He was willing to take those chances winning through the 791 00:37:45,360 --> 00:37:48,399 Speaker 5: football how he threw the football, and I just thought, 792 00:37:48,400 --> 00:37:51,879 Speaker 5: in the end, Michigan, I don't even know this price 793 00:37:51,920 --> 00:37:55,600 Speaker 5: comes off as controversial if they're necessarily even the better team, 794 00:37:55,880 --> 00:37:58,960 Speaker 5: but they were that day and the way he coached them, 795 00:37:59,440 --> 00:37:59,920 Speaker 5: he made them. 796 00:38:00,560 --> 00:38:03,719 Speaker 3: Michigan was not the better team, but they were. They 797 00:38:03,880 --> 00:38:07,960 Speaker 3: played better than Ohio State. I think Ohio State left 798 00:38:08,600 --> 00:38:11,640 Speaker 3: a lot on the table offensively. I don't understand why 799 00:38:11,719 --> 00:38:15,279 Speaker 3: they didn't work. And listen, Marvin Harrison Junior had over 800 00:38:15,320 --> 00:38:17,960 Speaker 3: one hundred yards, but why do you not work to 801 00:38:18,000 --> 00:38:22,000 Speaker 3: get him more involved in your offensive scheme during this game? 802 00:38:22,120 --> 00:38:24,239 Speaker 3: It's the biggest game of the year. How do you 803 00:38:24,320 --> 00:38:28,279 Speaker 3: not get him more involved? Like, I just didn't understand. 804 00:38:28,560 --> 00:38:32,480 Speaker 3: I didn't understand that. And you know your defense is 805 00:38:32,480 --> 00:38:34,680 Speaker 3: going to play play well. You know they're going to 806 00:38:34,760 --> 00:38:38,439 Speaker 3: play tough defense. But with that being said, Michigan ended 807 00:38:38,480 --> 00:38:42,120 Speaker 3: up doing Ohio State's defense the same exact way they 808 00:38:42,120 --> 00:38:45,160 Speaker 3: did Penn State's defense. I mean, make no mistake about it. 809 00:38:45,680 --> 00:38:48,720 Speaker 3: They were running that ball. Was it twenty two straight times? 810 00:38:48,800 --> 00:38:52,080 Speaker 3: They were running that ball. Rushing category won the game 811 00:38:52,760 --> 00:38:55,600 Speaker 3: in the They were running that ball. Them boys was 812 00:38:55,680 --> 00:38:58,719 Speaker 3: running that ball the same exact I mean, they might 813 00:38:58,719 --> 00:39:01,879 Speaker 3: have had bigger runs again Stuts, but they were They 814 00:39:01,920 --> 00:39:03,919 Speaker 3: were pounding them boys with that run. 815 00:39:03,960 --> 00:39:04,160 Speaker 4: Man. 816 00:39:04,560 --> 00:39:08,240 Speaker 5: The other thing that's crazy is Ohio State when Trayvon 817 00:39:08,320 --> 00:39:11,799 Speaker 5: Henderson rushes for seventy five yards or more, are undefeated, 818 00:39:12,760 --> 00:39:14,440 Speaker 5: literally like they were I think they were eighteen and 819 00:39:14,440 --> 00:39:15,319 Speaker 5: oh coming into the game. 820 00:39:15,360 --> 00:39:17,000 Speaker 3: He was fifteen yards off from that. 821 00:39:17,640 --> 00:39:20,399 Speaker 5: And that's and that's the reality is. You know, who 822 00:39:20,480 --> 00:39:22,600 Speaker 5: knows how he was impacted by the injury. He end 823 00:39:22,640 --> 00:39:24,719 Speaker 5: up limping off the field at one point. I think 824 00:39:24,719 --> 00:39:28,680 Speaker 5: he got his ankle rolled up on. But to your point, 825 00:39:28,760 --> 00:39:34,279 Speaker 5: LeVar Henderson Harrison are the two players that are just 826 00:39:34,400 --> 00:39:36,480 Speaker 5: they're they're when they're at their game and they're healthy, 827 00:39:36,520 --> 00:39:37,280 Speaker 5: at their best, they're. 828 00:39:37,160 --> 00:39:37,839 Speaker 4: Better than anyone else. 829 00:39:37,880 --> 00:39:38,719 Speaker 3: I'll yes. 830 00:39:39,239 --> 00:39:41,600 Speaker 5: And I think that's what's probably stood out a little 831 00:39:41,600 --> 00:39:44,400 Speaker 5: bit to me too about Ryan Day is in the 832 00:39:44,440 --> 00:39:46,960 Speaker 5: past we've seen him be able to scheme some things 833 00:39:47,040 --> 00:39:50,439 Speaker 5: up where he got a guy like Marvin Harrison Junior open, 834 00:39:50,640 --> 00:39:52,759 Speaker 5: or he put him in different positions to allow him 835 00:39:53,239 --> 00:39:56,799 Speaker 5: to avoid being taken away. And it's just you go 836 00:39:56,840 --> 00:40:00,080 Speaker 5: down to that final drive and you're like, who was it? 837 00:40:00,080 --> 00:40:04,120 Speaker 5: It was Marvin Harrison. Marvin Like even the interception, mccora 838 00:40:04,200 --> 00:40:05,480 Speaker 5: was going to the right spot. If he gets that 839 00:40:05,560 --> 00:40:08,239 Speaker 5: ball off he threw. He was throwing that at the 840 00:40:08,360 --> 00:40:10,520 Speaker 5: right time to the right spot because Harrison was coming 841 00:40:10,600 --> 00:40:12,640 Speaker 5: up on on the deep dig. But he just got 842 00:40:12,719 --> 00:40:14,080 Speaker 5: hit when he threw in the ball kind of you know, 843 00:40:14,120 --> 00:40:17,759 Speaker 5: flailed out of there. It just you felt like when 844 00:40:17,760 --> 00:40:20,160 Speaker 5: they needed to they went to him, and then instead 845 00:40:20,160 --> 00:40:22,160 Speaker 5: of doing it the entire game, they only did it 846 00:40:22,200 --> 00:40:25,480 Speaker 5: as a response to a Michigan score, and it just 847 00:40:25,480 --> 00:40:29,000 Speaker 5: seemed really conservative. And so I can understand the frustration 848 00:40:29,040 --> 00:40:33,160 Speaker 5: from Ohio State fans. And obviously if you're Michigan, no, 849 00:40:33,280 --> 00:40:36,640 Speaker 5: Jim Harbaugh, Kyle Stallions hasn't been a part of the 850 00:40:36,840 --> 00:40:39,520 Speaker 5: you know, the universe organization, the team, whatever you want 851 00:40:39,520 --> 00:40:42,080 Speaker 5: to call it. And yet they still get a win, 852 00:40:43,239 --> 00:40:44,920 Speaker 5: and I just I kind of look at it as like, 853 00:40:45,120 --> 00:40:49,080 Speaker 5: this is this season's almost vindication for Michigan, if they 854 00:40:49,120 --> 00:40:51,160 Speaker 5: win the Big Ten this week, if they go into 855 00:40:51,160 --> 00:40:52,920 Speaker 5: the playoff and win a national championship. 856 00:40:53,000 --> 00:40:56,680 Speaker 3: You did see that stephen A, which I know, but 857 00:40:56,760 --> 00:40:58,880 Speaker 3: I thought it was interesting said that they shouldn't be 858 00:40:58,920 --> 00:41:01,759 Speaker 3: able to play in the in the playoffs. 859 00:41:01,800 --> 00:41:02,759 Speaker 4: I don't care about that. 860 00:41:04,800 --> 00:41:07,880 Speaker 5: It hasn't I've said this before and people ask me, 861 00:41:07,960 --> 00:41:12,200 Speaker 5: are on there people have overblown this entire thing. They've 862 00:41:12,200 --> 00:41:16,640 Speaker 5: overblown the entire thing. There's other teams that have done 863 00:41:16,640 --> 00:41:20,359 Speaker 5: it in various ways, and I'll be honest, with you. 864 00:41:20,440 --> 00:41:22,719 Speaker 5: I don't know how great of an impact it even 865 00:41:22,760 --> 00:41:26,279 Speaker 5: plays in game, because very similar to TCU in the 866 00:41:26,320 --> 00:41:29,480 Speaker 5: semi final game last year, they knew Michigan was doing it. 867 00:41:29,760 --> 00:41:35,440 Speaker 5: They changed every single call, every signal, and that it 868 00:41:35,480 --> 00:41:38,919 Speaker 5: wasn't like Michigan's defense was stopping TCU. 869 00:41:40,280 --> 00:41:42,560 Speaker 4: No, don't get me wrong, it can't play to your advantage. 870 00:41:43,200 --> 00:41:46,120 Speaker 5: But taking stuff that they did in prior games and 871 00:41:46,160 --> 00:41:48,640 Speaker 5: then applying it in game like things don't change, but 872 00:41:48,719 --> 00:41:50,040 Speaker 5: the teams don't make adjustments. 873 00:41:50,880 --> 00:41:52,480 Speaker 4: It's you have to be in game able to do it. 874 00:41:52,520 --> 00:41:53,240 Speaker 4: That's all legal. 875 00:41:54,280 --> 00:41:55,839 Speaker 5: So I just I think it's one of the more 876 00:41:55,880 --> 00:41:59,480 Speaker 5: overblown things. And I think it's because Michigan and Jim 877 00:41:59,520 --> 00:42:03,120 Speaker 5: Harball been pretty dominant that people are looking to point 878 00:42:03,120 --> 00:42:05,919 Speaker 5: the finger. I just like to me, if you're the NCA, 879 00:42:05,920 --> 00:42:09,880 Speaker 5: you're gonna investigate Michigan, go investigate every team in the country, Like, 880 00:42:09,960 --> 00:42:12,000 Speaker 5: go find more about every single team in the country 881 00:42:12,040 --> 00:42:13,879 Speaker 5: and see if other other schools aren't doing it into 882 00:42:13,880 --> 00:42:15,040 Speaker 5: what capacity. 883 00:42:14,600 --> 00:42:19,799 Speaker 2: Between the game, the Iron Bowl, the Apple Cup that 884 00:42:19,920 --> 00:42:22,200 Speaker 2: was a hell of a Saturday for college football that 885 00:42:22,400 --> 00:42:26,080 Speaker 2: was fantastic, The finishing, the finishing you know at Jordan 886 00:42:26,200 --> 00:42:26,960 Speaker 2: hare with. 887 00:42:27,480 --> 00:42:32,479 Speaker 5: I mean, that's maybe the most crazy play. Fourth and 888 00:42:32,560 --> 00:42:35,160 Speaker 5: thirty one, fourth and goal thirty one for the for 889 00:42:35,239 --> 00:42:37,600 Speaker 5: the win, to have a shot at SEC and making 890 00:42:37,640 --> 00:42:41,040 Speaker 5: the playoff for Bamba. And by the way, it wasn't 891 00:42:41,040 --> 00:42:43,279 Speaker 5: a pushoff. They were both kind of back and forth 892 00:42:43,360 --> 00:42:46,200 Speaker 5: with each other like that was unbelievable. 893 00:42:46,239 --> 00:42:47,480 Speaker 4: Throwing great catch by mom. 894 00:42:47,640 --> 00:42:48,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, it was awesome. 895 00:42:49,080 --> 00:42:52,480 Speaker 2: And then to see Washington Washington State was, oh my gosh. 896 00:42:52,520 --> 00:42:54,520 Speaker 3: The Florida State game was. I mean, there was just 897 00:42:54,520 --> 00:42:58,520 Speaker 3: a u g you could tell teams want the other 898 00:42:58,600 --> 00:42:59,239 Speaker 3: teams to win. 899 00:43:00,239 --> 00:43:00,520 Speaker 4: I love that. 900 00:43:00,640 --> 00:43:01,720 Speaker 3: I want them to go undefeed. 901 00:43:01,760 --> 00:43:04,719 Speaker 5: It even like low key robberies like Virginia Virginia Tech. 902 00:43:04,760 --> 00:43:07,000 Speaker 5: The DC after Virginia Tech came out in the field 903 00:43:07,160 --> 00:43:09,600 Speaker 5: and they want to take a photo like commemorating the 904 00:43:09,640 --> 00:43:13,680 Speaker 5: wind and the UVA landscape, or turn on the sprinklers. 905 00:43:15,640 --> 00:43:18,839 Speaker 4: The field, like just little stuff like that. Dude makes 906 00:43:18,840 --> 00:43:21,040 Speaker 4: college football so much fun. It really does.