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Speaker 1: Hey, this is Kyle Stowers and you're listening to Fish

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Speaker 1: On First.

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Speaker 2: Welcome into fish On First Live, part of foul Territory Network.

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Speaker 2: We have Eli Sussman, we have Isaacazooit, Daniel Rodriguez, Nate Krsmer.

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Speaker 2: I'm Jeremiah Geiger jam Pack Show for you today. I

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Speaker 2: want to start by talking about some real good results

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Speaker 2: on the pitching side of things. Guys Astros and the Marlins.

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Speaker 2: Great Fruit League action. Marlins went to nothing. Sandiel Contra

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Speaker 2: pitches three innings. Robbie Snelling pitches three innings. Both looked phenomenal. Nate,

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Speaker 2: take us to the start of that game. Just like,

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Speaker 2: what was your takeaways from those two pitchers in particular?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, they both looked incredible. Sandy threw a he threw

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Speaker 1: a bullpen or just live VP. I believe on Thursday

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Speaker 1: or Friday of last week before or when they were

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Speaker 1: in clear Water, and they were great results there. He

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Speaker 1: continued it today. Every pitch was on. I was most

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Speaker 1: interested to see that news sweeper he's been working on.

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Speaker 1: Didn't throw it that much, but still it looked good.

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Speaker 1: Vintage Sandy four round balls, four case, a little bit

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Speaker 1: of both. If you're talking about the Sanuel Crontra you

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Speaker 1: want to see, and he was giddy after the game.

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Speaker 1: He had a long week flying back to the dr

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Speaker 1: for those two exhibition games, didn't even pitch, but just

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Speaker 1: going there with that insane environment of the workouts down

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Speaker 1: at Lone Depot. And yes, he's stoked. Obviously he didn't

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Speaker 1: have the results he wanted to back in twenty twenty three,

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Speaker 1: even coming off the Sillon in the WBC, but he's

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Speaker 1: stoke to get back out there with his guys and

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Speaker 1: Robbie Selling, who had a up and down star last

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Speaker 1: week in clear Water as well against the A Phillies lineup,

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Speaker 1: who I noted after that game has been facing nothing

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Speaker 1: but studs.

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Speaker 3: I mean the A.

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Speaker 1: Mets lineup with Soto, Bashett and Marcus Simeon and then

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Speaker 1: a bunch of Phillies regulars. And then even today, first

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Speaker 1: inning of Word was against Jose al Tuve, Jordan Alvarez

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Speaker 1: and Isaac Pretes, who Pretiz give Sandy a fourteen pitch

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Speaker 1: at bat just of course, and he sat him down one, two, three,

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Speaker 3: So Stelling was great.

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Speaker 1: He said even after the Clearwater game that you know

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Speaker 1: his pitch shapes were there. He just had to command it,

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Speaker 1: and he commanded great today, trusted his stuff and definitely

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Speaker 4: Things to come.

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Speaker 3: And look at the rest of the.

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Speaker 1: Staff, Lake Boker, the Demon himself, Tyler Zueber, and Carson

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Speaker 3: In Carson, who's I'm very impressed with he pitched.

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Speaker 1: I think his only two appearances I've seen he pitched

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Speaker 1: That little funky wind up really just continuing what he's

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Speaker 1: what he did in the fall lead to being a

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Speaker 3: So encouraging day all around.

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Speaker 1: I think the only negative was that Dave Edwards got

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Speaker 1: pulled with left half tightness, but Clayton said he wasn't

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Speaker 1: too wasn't too ready to about it. Should expect him

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Speaker 1: to see back tomorrow. And yeah, marn keeps stealing bases.

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Speaker 1: I believe they had five more today already, more than

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Speaker 1: they had thirty games in his spring training last year.

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Speaker 1: So we talked about the aggressivenes last year when they

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Speaker 1: hired Clayton. I think this time around, with the new

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Speaker 1: So overall a good day. And yeah, one more thing,

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Speaker 1: Kevin to Frank, that kid is the oldest seventeen year

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Speaker 3: Seen in my entire life.

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Speaker 1: I've talked to Jackman Moullan about him, like, yeah, that

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Speaker 3: With bad lights, Like how is thatny? I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I feel like he's a kid that had had to

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Speaker 1: have liked his his birth certificate laminade at every place

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Speaker 1: he went when he was younger, especially if he was

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Speaker 1: I expected things for the twenty twenty six, but yeah, overall,

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Speaker 5: All the Marlins opponents are going to be flipping that around.

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Speaker 5: They're going to be saying that he was forging his

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Speaker 5: the genetic lottery even though he didn't appear in this

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Speaker 5: game yet. I wanted to draw people attention to all

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Speaker 5: the way in that right side the fire emojis, those

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Speaker 5: In this entire game, they allowed one hard hit ball,

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Speaker 5: fact that not even any hard contact whatsoever with one

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Speaker 5: think even translates more towards actual real baseball than the

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Speaker 5: raw stats itself. But the raw stats themselves today were

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Speaker 5: just eye popping on both regards. I'll queue it up

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Speaker 5: in just a moment, but I posted the back to

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Speaker 5: back to back strikeouts that Snelling had against the heart

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Speaker 5: of the Astros order, and the tweet is doing pretty well,

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Speaker 5: and it's mainly it's I love it how I'm able

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Speaker 5: to kind of like reverse engineer social media trands based

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Speaker 5: on the notifications. The reason why it's so popular is

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Speaker 5: it's because all these self hating Padres fans are like

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Speaker 5: kicking themselves over the fact that they made that trade

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Speaker 5: that they included Snelling as just one of four guys

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Speaker 5: for the rental Tanner Scott and for the artist formerly

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Speaker 5: known as Brian Hoeing, who is barely pitched at all

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Speaker 5: like the last year plus and he's hurt again. And

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Speaker 5: Snelling was just one of four guys that the Marlins

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Speaker 5: got in that deal alone. So it was just funny

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Speaker 5: to see all the quote tweets that I can tell

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Speaker 5: her from Padres fans that are really regretting selling low

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Speaker 5: on Snelling because now he's a stud guy that is

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Speaker 5: right on the cusp of breaking through to the big leagues.

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Speaker 2: Isaac Daniel, any any further thoughts on Robbie Snelling's outing

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Speaker 2: today or.

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Speaker 6: Well what Nate said for him to come back after

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Speaker 6: what was a little bit of a rough star granted

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Speaker 6: an unfair just he was facing, like he said, the

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Speaker 6: a team for the Philadelphia Phillies and clear Water on

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Speaker 6: Astrosers really encouraging coming out after Sandy and to follow

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Speaker 6: up his great performance with one of his own was

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Speaker 6: very encouraging. I think you got to assume he's maybe

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Speaker 6: round of cuts that get him. Unfortunately, I did hold

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Speaker 6: Max Meyer in limited opportunities as well, and Brax starting

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Speaker 6: It looks like the rotation is pretty much set, and

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Speaker 6: So I would guess he's got maybe two more appearances

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Speaker 6: just if you're able to go watch him pitch, I would,

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Speaker 5: I think we should use this opportunity just to pull

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Speaker 5: up Kevin's recent opening day roster projection here that he

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Speaker 5: put out yesterday, because, as expected, Snelling not on there

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Speaker 7: He's not on the forty man.

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Speaker 5: And we we've discussed this previously, how it seems like

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Speaker 5: imagination here, Jeremiah. If there is one of those starters

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Speaker 5: think might be most vulnerable to get leap frogged by

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Speaker 5: Snelling over these last few weeks. If Snelling just makes

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Speaker 7: It's tough.

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Speaker 2: It's tough like looking at this projection because obviously Sandy

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Speaker 2: and your air locks Paddock is a lock because they're

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Speaker 2: giving him four million dollars to pitch. It comes down

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Speaker 2: if he has an excellent spring and he really has

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Speaker 2: I think realistically what you're looking at, though, is over

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Speaker 2: if Meyer shows inconsistencies, that's when Snelling is gonna make

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Speaker 2: one of my predictions is that Max Meyer's out of

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Speaker 2: no injuries, Assuming everybody stays healthy.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I would agree.

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Speaker 6: I think I believe even though I completely agree that

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Speaker 4: That would be my bold prediction.

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Speaker 1: It's also just tough because you forget that Matt Smeyer,

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Speaker 1: it's sent down after that whole conundrum when he was

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Speaker 1: So as much as I am not the biggest believer

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Speaker 1: in him starting for this team long term, I still

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Speaker 1: believe I'd give him maybe a month or two just

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Speaker 1: for the Even then, he's only had one start this

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Speaker 1: I think we just see Robbie in Jacksonville and then

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Speaker 1: before Robbie inevitably tears up Triple A once again and

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Speaker 1: comes up. But when we talk about Matt tomyro we

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Speaker 1: don't really acknowledge that eachim has had the short end

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Speaker 5: Yeah, well he is short alright relative to the major

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Speaker 9: So that's that's part of it, not not all those.

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Speaker 6: And when you've got those factors, it just makes perfect

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Speaker 6: This is the last year for for this experiment to continue.

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Speaker 6: It is a number three overall pick in the twenty

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Speaker 6: And like you said, he was screwed a little bit.

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Speaker 5: But come on, man, Yeah, number three picks six years

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Speaker 7: I mean, that's that's a runway.

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Speaker 8: It's enough. I mean.

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Speaker 9: That's that shows you made the majors.

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Speaker 1: But what do we know?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, well we still have Nate on here. I wanted

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Speaker 5: Pretty Uh, Clayton downplayed it quite a bit, but you

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Speaker 1: Also, it makes me feel a little better because losing

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Speaker 6: the semi finals.

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Speaker 4: With Sandy.

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Speaker 6: It would line up to be in the championship game

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Speaker 6: because you'll start on the eleventh Agains Venezuela, and then

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Speaker 6: it would be the championship game on the seventeenth against

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Speaker 6: who knows who, So that would be ten days before

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Speaker 6: opening day.

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Speaker 4: So you know, it's a lot of risk on this

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Speaker 4: in this tournament for sure.

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Speaker 7: Back in action question from the live chat, Oh, Ashley,

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Speaker 7: I think.

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Speaker 9: She's a she's a surce of ours and very loyal.

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Speaker 5: Soprity, what's what you have in mine? Which Martin's project?

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Speaker 5: Do you think of the biggest impact in the next

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Speaker 5: two to three years?

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Speaker 9: All right, Uh, just it's a it's a great question.

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Speaker 6: I don't know where she came up with it that.

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Speaker 6: I'm a little concerned that she need to ask that,

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Speaker 6: but I'll deal with that later.

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Speaker 4: I'm gonna say, oh, I think they still give her

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Speaker 4: a sure, she's at the edge of her seat for this.

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Speaker 6: But I think there's two answers here, and I think

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Speaker 6: the one of them is going to be the guy

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Speaker 6: in starting rotation for the next five to six years.

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Speaker 6: In Robbie Snelling whoopitch today, I would have said Thomas White.

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Speaker 4: I think he's obviously gonna be a little.

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Speaker 6: Bit behind Snelling now with the injury, and I still

486
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Speaker 6: think that Thomas has a little bit more to work

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Speaker 6: on before he's able to be at that elite level

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Speaker 6: at the highest level.

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Speaker 8: And then on the.

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Speaker 6: Offensive side, you're going to see the biggest impact in

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Speaker 6: the world when the Marlins have Joe Mack behind the

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Speaker 6: plate from one of the pitching staff to the defense

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Speaker 6: behind the plate.

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Speaker 4: The framing.

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Speaker 6: You know the frame is going to be a little

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Speaker 6: bit less significant going forward. And then just having that power.

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Speaker 6: I know Miami had ago seen Ramirez last year, but

498
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Speaker 6: still just have that left handed power bat. Also be

499
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Speaker 6: your elite defensive catcher calling games for well, not calling games,

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Speaker 6: but you know handling your pitching staff is going to

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Speaker 6: make a huge difference for this organization going forward. For

502
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Speaker 6: those who weren't there, it was against the ass Strows,

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Speaker 6: he had a hell of a pickuff throw at first base.

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Speaker 6: Just the athleticism that this young man has. He's still

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Speaker 6: very young. I remember a high school draft. He might

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Speaker 6: be one of the few high school catcher catching draft

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Speaker 6: picks that actually becomes a success story.

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Speaker 4: We're hoping that becomes the case. But yes, Joe Mack and.

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Speaker 6: Robbie Snelling in the next two to three years, you

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Speaker 6: can count on them to have a big impact in

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Speaker 6: this Ashley.

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Speaker 5: I would go to the same direction. I'm trying to

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Speaker 5: think of a sleeper. I guess a sleeper pick in

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Speaker 5: this regard would be Kemp Alderman, just because of the

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Speaker 5: upside with his bat. We've seen a bit of him

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Speaker 5: this spring. We're expecting to see quite a bit of

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Speaker 5: him over the course of the season, although there's not

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Speaker 5: the timing of it is gonna be very interesting because

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Speaker 5: there's not like a glaring opening in the outfield. It's

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Speaker 5: just a question of when, through a combination of underperformance

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Speaker 5: or injury, does more playing time open and what does

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Speaker 5: he do with it. He took such a big step

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Speaker 5: forward last year in terms of just his hitting ability,

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Speaker 5: like that was a big question mark. The raw power

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Speaker 5: has always been true, top of the scale stuff.

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Speaker 7: And even he is.

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Speaker 5: Base running even improved a bit last year just in

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Speaker 5: terms of the way he trimmed down his body. Overall,

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Speaker 5: that may make him a more viable corner outfielder as well.

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Speaker 5: I'm not really that impressed with his defense, but he's

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Speaker 5: I think that's gonna be his primary position moving forward,

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Speaker 5: and he certainly has the arm out there. So I

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Speaker 5: want to go with a somewhat of an unorthodox one,

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Speaker 5: but I think I think Kemp's upside is about as

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Speaker 5: good as anybody's if everything clicks.

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Speaker 8: That was gonna say, Casey, because I feel like he's

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Speaker 8: just gonna yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, Because I feel like

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Speaker 8: that was the most obvious one. I had to think

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Speaker 8: for a second Yeah, he still has still a prospect.

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Speaker 8: He's still gonna command that outfield position for the Marlands

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Speaker 8: for the next hopefully ten years or so. And maybe

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Speaker 8: boring it gets what Eli says. I know Eli thinks

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Speaker 8: that he might stay in the minors to start the season,

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Speaker 8: But for me and I think the majority of us

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Speaker 8: think he come up and start in the Marlins lineup

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Speaker 8: on the opening day. And that's a guy the Marlins

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Speaker 8: hopefully big trade with the Cubs that with Casey's gonna

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Speaker 8: stay in the Marlins outfield for the three of the future.

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Speaker 8: And I think you even have such a big impact as

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Speaker 8: well for the Marlins, because I don't think he has

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Speaker 8: anything left to prove in the miners of all, and

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Speaker 8: I think even have the biggest impact offensively, and I

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Speaker 8: think also outfield defense as well. It's gonna be much

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Speaker 8: improved for Casey now coming up with the Marlins.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I know he hasn't made his debut yet, but

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Speaker 2: just a second, the idea of Joe Mack being an

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Speaker 2: absolute stud for this franchise, there's a real realistic possibility

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Speaker 2: that in five years, I mean the question is two

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Speaker 2: to three years, we're looking at Joe Mack as a

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Speaker 2: top five catcher in baseball. That's how good he is defensively,

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Speaker 2: and he's gonna shift the narrative away from other teams

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Speaker 2: just being able to run all the time. On Miami,

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Speaker 2: it felt like whenever a Marlins pitcher walks someone, it

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Speaker 2: was gonna be a double because they would steal second.

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Speaker 2: If anyone had an bounce of speed, they were gonna

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Speaker 2: take off because they know that the especially when Augustine

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Speaker 2: Ramirez is back there, he can't throw throw anybody out.

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Speaker 2: Uh and the pitchers didn't do an adequate job at

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Speaker 2: holding runners. So when Ma's back there, that's gonna be

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Speaker 2: taken care of. The big X factor for me if

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Speaker 2: he can really reach that upper echelon of elite catchers,

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Speaker 2: because I know the powers there and the defense is there,

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Speaker 2: it's just a hit tool for me. How is he

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Speaker 2: going to adjust to major league pitching. I know there's

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Speaker 2: a little bit of concern with the whift rate, swing

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Speaker 2: and miss with Mac and even even if it doesn't

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Speaker 2: reach like an elite rate, you know you're not You're

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Speaker 2: not calling him up for his hit tool. You just

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Speaker 2: want the power and you want the defense. With Alderman, though,

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Speaker 2: I wanted to mention this well, not because I love Alderman.

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Speaker 2: I think he's one of my favorite prospects, especially last

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Speaker 2: year that breakout season. I think his profiles exactly what

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Speaker 2: Miami is looking for. Hits the ball extremely hard, has

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Speaker 2: decent athleticism, can steal bases. It was a twenty twenty

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Speaker 2: guy last year. But where will he fit in in

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Speaker 2: the long term plans? That's what I'm wondering, because in

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Speaker 2: an ideal world for the next few years, you're gonna

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Speaker 2: have Jacob Marcy, Owen Casey and Kyle Sowers manning the outfield.

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Speaker 2: Where's Alderman even slot in?

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Speaker 5: Oh I have a pretty bold idea that I'd say,

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Speaker 5: more so than those guys, I think his status is

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Speaker 5: more closely tied to Augustine and whether or not he's

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Speaker 5: really part of the Marlin's future. They have been all there,

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Speaker 5: I mean, in terms of their overall offensive profile. There's

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Speaker 5: quite a bit in common between the two. The thing

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Speaker 5: is they were hopeful that Augustine was going to be

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Speaker 5: a catcher, and this year is going to be pretty

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Speaker 5: critical towards determining whether he can even do that decently

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Speaker 5: at a part time capacity. So that's kind of where

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Speaker 5: I look where these guys are that there's a lot

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Speaker 5: in common, except Kemp has a real position, and even

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Speaker 5: if he's not good at that position, he has it,

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Speaker 5: there's gonna be enough playing time in the outfield regardless,

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Speaker 5: just because of the end in this situation. Yeah, this

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Speaker 5: Marlins seem is there's very few guys that are going

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Speaker 5: to be totally unleashed as everyday players hitting in every

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Speaker 5: single situation throughout the game, like even the ones even

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Speaker 5: stours if he's starting almost every well and he's kind

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Speaker 5: of a different case where there are days with him

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Speaker 5: where they even showed last year not fully comfortable having

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Speaker 5: him hit against lefties. So they're gonna find ways to

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Speaker 5: have There's going to be at that's available for a

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Speaker 5: right handed hitting outfielder one way or the other. But

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Speaker 5: the thing is with Kemp, if even if his defense

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Speaker 5: doesn't prove to be great, like he's the guy that

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Speaker 5: for the same reason why Augustine he's got so much

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Speaker 5: playing time at THH last year and projects to be

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Speaker 5: a lot of DH time at the start of this year.

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Speaker 5: Like him and Kemp, to me, there's just a lot

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Speaker 5: in common. There's not a clear divide there. Augustine got

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Speaker 5: here first, and initially he took such full advantage of

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Speaker 5: that opportunity and then really fitted this year it goes on.

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Speaker 5: So to me, that's that's what I'm watching. I think

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Speaker 5: that that could go in a lot of different directions.

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Speaker 5: By the end of the shay, maybe he takes that improbable

626
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Speaker 5: step forward defensively and hits more consistently throughout the whole year.

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Speaker 5: And then there's that really low floor on the other end,

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Speaker 5: where if he's still makes no progress as a catcher

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Speaker 5: and he continues to be just making really questionable swing

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Speaker 5: decisions as well, and he's not getting on base, then

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Speaker 5: all of a sudden you might be going into twenty

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Speaker 5: twenty seven and feeling like that spot.

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Speaker 7: Is wide open.

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Speaker 5: So that's that's something that I'm watching, and I've been

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Speaker 5: really optimistic about I think I've even during the course

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Speaker 5: of the second half of the season, I've been very

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Speaker 5: hopeful about Ramirez as a hitter. I really do think

638
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Speaker 5: he's gonna move forward in that regard. I just got

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Speaker 5: to acknowledge the wide variety of possible outcomes that there

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Speaker 5: still is with somebody like it, even Sean Miller throughout

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Speaker 5: I think This is related to the same question Josh

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Speaker 5: White being kind of a bold prediction there, where I

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Speaker 5: love Josh White as a pitch or to the impact

644
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Speaker 5: that a guy can make as a relief only option

645
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Speaker 5: is only so much.

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Speaker 9: But well, I think he's going to be great. He's

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Speaker 9: got that.

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Speaker 5: I have allowed confidence in transitioning.

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Speaker 7: We're going to save the Spring.

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Speaker 5: Breakout stuff till the end, but I think just for

651
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Speaker 5: the sake of organization, we might as well throw that

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Speaker 5: up right now, just to.

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Speaker 7: Go through it.

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Speaker 5: The forty man player pool for Spring Breakout, which is

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Speaker 5: still two full weeks away. Like I was initially, I

656
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Speaker 5: was really pleased to see that they were going to

657
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Speaker 5: be drawing attention to this so early, but then when

658
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Speaker 5: you actually go through it, didn't realize well, they didn't

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Speaker 5: actually make any decisions at all yet. I mean, this

660
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Speaker 5: is a forty man player pool for a single exhibition game.

661
00:30:41,400 --> 00:30:44,400
Speaker 5: They're only going to end up using about twenty The

662
00:30:44,520 --> 00:30:46,880
Speaker 5: limited is going to be twenty three to twenty seven

663
00:30:46,960 --> 00:30:50,000
Speaker 5: for the game itself. They haven't really made many decisions

664
00:30:50,040 --> 00:30:51,719
Speaker 5: at all when it comes to this. But this is

665
00:30:51,800 --> 00:30:56,600
Speaker 5: it identially just an overview of pipelines. Marlin's top thirty list,

666
00:30:56,800 --> 00:31:01,400
Speaker 5: and yeah, there's some rules and regulations here, but I

667
00:31:01,440 --> 00:31:04,120
Speaker 5: guess yeah, among the guys that are not the ones

668
00:31:04,160 --> 00:31:07,960
Speaker 5: that don't have a number next to them, Daniel, for

669
00:31:08,040 --> 00:31:11,320
Speaker 5: all the guys that are any names that surprise you,

670
00:31:11,400 --> 00:31:13,960
Speaker 5: any names that there are names here that even I

671
00:31:13,960 --> 00:31:17,880
Speaker 5: don't know very much about who kind of like catches

672
00:31:17,920 --> 00:31:20,240
Speaker 5: your eye in terms of players you weren't thinking of

673
00:31:20,440 --> 00:31:23,680
Speaker 5: initially when as a whole in terms of being spring

674
00:31:23,920 --> 00:31:25,920
Speaker 5: breakout candidates.

675
00:31:26,400 --> 00:31:29,680
Speaker 8: I honestly couldn't tell you who Ethan O'donnald is.

676
00:31:30,240 --> 00:31:33,560
Speaker 4: Oh, no him, Yeah, the.

677
00:31:36,680 --> 00:31:39,600
Speaker 8: I think it's pretty nice to see there. I know

678
00:31:39,680 --> 00:31:42,520
Speaker 8: Carver is very iffy on him, but to see him

679
00:31:42,520 --> 00:31:45,560
Speaker 8: there amongst the infielders does give me a little bit

680
00:31:45,960 --> 00:31:48,720
Speaker 8: of hope for him, hopefully to see something in the

681
00:31:48,720 --> 00:31:51,280
Speaker 8: spring breakout game. But I think for me that'll be

682
00:31:51,360 --> 00:31:53,480
Speaker 8: one of my guys eighty. With the guys with the

683
00:31:53,600 --> 00:31:55,560
Speaker 8: n R to really look at, especially in the high

684
00:31:55,600 --> 00:31:58,960
Speaker 8: draft pick they use for Carter Johnson, I think that's

685
00:31:58,960 --> 00:31:59,960
Speaker 8: something to really look at.

686
00:32:00,920 --> 00:32:05,560
Speaker 6: Yeah, I'll tell you, I pride myself in knowing most

687
00:32:05,600 --> 00:32:09,440
Speaker 6: of the people in this organization. I had to look

688
00:32:09,520 --> 00:32:11,880
Speaker 6: up who Caden Wilson was He turns out he was

689
00:32:11,920 --> 00:32:16,520
Speaker 6: a ninth round pick of last year's draft. I don't

690
00:32:16,560 --> 00:32:19,760
Speaker 6: know what this has been, this forty men roster announcement.

691
00:32:19,800 --> 00:32:21,920
Speaker 6: I don't understand it too much. It's not as sexy

692
00:32:21,960 --> 00:32:24,320
Speaker 6: as it was a few years ago, where everyone there

693
00:32:24,560 --> 00:32:26,920
Speaker 6: was a notable name. And if we're just putting guys

694
00:32:26,960 --> 00:32:29,920
Speaker 6: who have half a season professional ball after being drafted

695
00:32:30,000 --> 00:32:32,120
Speaker 6: the ninth round last year, then you might as well

696
00:32:32,160 --> 00:32:33,560
Speaker 6: put all one hundred and twenty guys in the.

697
00:32:33,520 --> 00:32:36,520
Speaker 4: Organization in this freaking graphic, because geez, what are we

698
00:32:36,600 --> 00:32:40,400
Speaker 4: doing here? How many pictures? It says that's fifteen pitchers?

699
00:32:40,640 --> 00:32:41,360
Speaker 4: Fourteen pitchers.

700
00:32:41,360 --> 00:32:44,280
Speaker 6: I'm sorry as the forty men roster, but he was

701
00:32:44,320 --> 00:32:45,760
Speaker 6: one of one of the other guys that I had

702
00:32:45,760 --> 00:32:49,200
Speaker 6: to check up on. No, I know Kobe Martin now

703
00:32:49,440 --> 00:32:50,840
Speaker 6: he's the only one who I had to look up,

704
00:32:50,840 --> 00:32:52,040
Speaker 6: which is pretty good.

705
00:32:52,080 --> 00:32:54,200
Speaker 8: But well, Thomas White here, you don't think he's gonna

706
00:32:54,240 --> 00:32:56,760
Speaker 8: have He's probably not gonna pitch. He is, like, yeah,

707
00:32:56,760 --> 00:32:57,720
Speaker 8: he's not going to pitch.

708
00:32:58,480 --> 00:33:02,120
Speaker 5: They're kind of lazy with this, where they didn't they

709
00:33:02,160 --> 00:33:05,360
Speaker 5: want to. They insist on listening all the top thirty guys,

710
00:33:05,360 --> 00:33:07,080
Speaker 5: even the ones that both him and.

711
00:33:07,080 --> 00:33:08,680
Speaker 9: Iv I've as in the same situation.

712
00:33:08,960 --> 00:33:11,120
Speaker 7: He just heard his whatever it.

713
00:33:11,040 --> 00:33:13,560
Speaker 9: Was is, what was it?

714
00:33:13,560 --> 00:33:14,080
Speaker 8: It was injured.

715
00:33:14,320 --> 00:33:14,959
Speaker 7: I'll look it up.

716
00:33:15,520 --> 00:33:18,920
Speaker 5: He's the start of the regular season with that procedure

717
00:33:18,920 --> 00:33:22,560
Speaker 5: that he underwent, So with him, he'll be out and

718
00:33:22,920 --> 00:33:26,240
Speaker 5: I'll bring up the actual stipulations the roster details here

719
00:33:26,720 --> 00:33:29,920
Speaker 5: to accommodate player movement involved with the WBC give farm

720
00:33:30,000 --> 00:33:34,080
Speaker 5: directors greater flexibility. They're being constructed in two phases in

721
00:33:34,120 --> 00:33:35,840
Speaker 5: twenty twenty six. Now they tell us. Now they tell

722
00:33:35,920 --> 00:33:39,160
Speaker 5: us it's two phases. So, yeah, they include all the

723
00:33:39,160 --> 00:33:43,520
Speaker 5: top thirty guys, and then they're gonna they included injured players.

724
00:33:43,520 --> 00:33:47,680
Speaker 5: They're gonna end up removing the injured ones and players

725
00:33:47,680 --> 00:33:50,320
Speaker 5: on the forty man roster who have elected not to participate,

726
00:33:50,360 --> 00:33:53,680
Speaker 5: which just means guys that are competing for major league jobs.

727
00:33:53,840 --> 00:33:58,200
Speaker 5: You guys are still in contention or for whatever reason.

728
00:33:59,600 --> 00:34:01,720
Speaker 7: Draw out. Yeah, So Casey is the obvious.

729
00:34:01,360 --> 00:34:04,720
Speaker 5: One where they don't really have guys in the spring

730
00:34:04,760 --> 00:34:08,040
Speaker 5: breakout game historically if they're going to be imminent big leaguers.

731
00:34:08,120 --> 00:34:11,120
Speaker 5: So if he is by the end of camp expected

732
00:34:11,160 --> 00:34:13,040
Speaker 5: to break camp with the big league team. I don't

733
00:34:13,040 --> 00:34:15,560
Speaker 5: think he'd be playing in this just some other examples

734
00:34:15,600 --> 00:34:18,439
Speaker 5: that fall into that category. I mean, well, Joe Mack

735
00:34:18,560 --> 00:34:21,640
Speaker 5: is unlikely to make the opening day roster, but that's

736
00:34:21,719 --> 00:34:25,759
Speaker 5: another one that, yeah, he might well see if he's

737
00:34:25,800 --> 00:34:28,680
Speaker 5: in that situation. The other forty man roster guys on

738
00:34:28,760 --> 00:34:30,759
Speaker 5: here are Davis and de la Santos. Like it kind

739
00:34:30,760 --> 00:34:34,000
Speaker 5: of giggled that they listed Davison as a third baseman

740
00:34:34,080 --> 00:34:36,520
Speaker 5: in a third basement only. Now, he did play quite

741
00:34:36,520 --> 00:34:39,640
Speaker 5: a bit a third base last year in Jacksonville. In Zanaco, well,

742
00:34:40,800 --> 00:34:43,759
Speaker 5: he is. The Marlins have been pretty clear that his

743
00:34:43,800 --> 00:34:47,240
Speaker 5: future is at first base, so I don't really understand

744
00:34:47,239 --> 00:34:50,200
Speaker 5: the rationale that since to just be a mistake to

745
00:34:50,440 --> 00:34:53,400
Speaker 5: only list him as a third basement and not anything else.

746
00:34:53,920 --> 00:34:56,640
Speaker 5: Some of the just notable names I want to highlight,

747
00:34:57,920 --> 00:35:02,120
Speaker 5: Johan for Santana is the one that really popped from

748
00:35:02,160 --> 00:35:05,000
Speaker 5: a stuff perspective in the DR two years ago in

749
00:35:05,040 --> 00:35:08,200
Speaker 5: twenty twenty four. But he got blow out his elbow

750
00:35:08,239 --> 00:35:11,840
Speaker 5: almost immediately after starting that twenty twenty four season underwe

751
00:35:11,840 --> 00:35:14,399
Speaker 5: Tommy john missed all last year, so he's the one

752
00:35:14,800 --> 00:35:17,880
Speaker 5: where defrank gets more of the attention because of his

753
00:35:19,360 --> 00:35:22,319
Speaker 5: the reputation he had coming directly out of being an

754
00:35:22,320 --> 00:35:25,080
Speaker 5: international signing, the way that he performed last year, and

755
00:35:25,480 --> 00:35:27,680
Speaker 5: the strength that he has relative.

756
00:35:27,320 --> 00:35:27,840
Speaker 7: To his age.

757
00:35:28,040 --> 00:35:31,560
Speaker 5: Santana is even taller. Santana is six foot seven if

758
00:35:31,560 --> 00:35:34,239
Speaker 5: I saw that correctly, and he was thrown just as

759
00:35:34,280 --> 00:35:37,600
Speaker 5: hard before his injury. So that is just want to

760
00:35:37,719 --> 00:35:41,480
Speaker 5: monitor where he's been out of I mean, he never

761
00:35:41,520 --> 00:35:44,080
Speaker 5: really had much time to get into the public view.

762
00:35:44,120 --> 00:35:47,560
Speaker 5: In fact, the reason why most Marlins fans, if any,

763
00:35:47,640 --> 00:35:51,000
Speaker 5: have heard of Santana is because Fangrafts really boldly. They

764
00:35:51,280 --> 00:35:54,880
Speaker 5: remember Eric Longenhangen the Fangrafts he ranked him like number

765
00:35:55,120 --> 00:35:58,720
Speaker 5: five overall prospect in this Marlin system, somebody that nobody

766
00:35:58,719 --> 00:36:01,640
Speaker 5: had ever heard of, jumps all the way up near

767
00:36:01,680 --> 00:36:03,719
Speaker 5: the top of the Fangrafts list, and then he got

768
00:36:03,800 --> 00:36:06,120
Speaker 5: hurt shortly after that. But that is kind of his

769
00:36:06,719 --> 00:36:09,239
Speaker 5: One of his only claims the fame right now to

770
00:36:09,280 --> 00:36:12,239
Speaker 5: this point is that Fangrafts was high on him for

771
00:36:12,400 --> 00:36:17,640
Speaker 5: just a brief moment in time back then. As Isaac mentioned,

772
00:36:17,680 --> 00:36:21,640
Speaker 5: Kayden Wilson is a new draft pick, as is Xavier Cardenas,

773
00:36:21,760 --> 00:36:23,399
Speaker 5: who was the one that was just drafted last year,

774
00:36:23,400 --> 00:36:25,600
Speaker 5: and that was a I'd love the draft picks that

775
00:36:25,640 --> 00:36:29,320
Speaker 5: are just awful in college like he was awful.

776
00:36:29,400 --> 00:36:30,400
Speaker 7: Like I don't even have.

777
00:36:30,400 --> 00:36:32,360
Speaker 5: To look up the numbers that to know that Kurdana's

778
00:36:32,360 --> 00:36:37,920
Speaker 5: had an ERA north of eight during his final college season,

779
00:36:37,920 --> 00:36:40,520
Speaker 5: and he was playing in a relatively small school as well.

780
00:36:40,880 --> 00:36:43,680
Speaker 5: And yet that Marlins and a lot of teams at

781
00:36:43,680 --> 00:36:47,319
Speaker 5: this point they don't really measure, they don't take that.

782
00:36:47,320 --> 00:36:49,200
Speaker 5: That's not a big factor when it comes to actual

783
00:36:49,640 --> 00:36:52,120
Speaker 5: prospect evaluation, because you're just looking at what can I

784
00:36:52,200 --> 00:36:55,920
Speaker 5: change about this player? How when they bring them into

785
00:36:56,280 --> 00:37:00,319
Speaker 5: our organization, with our technology and our principles, how much

786
00:37:00,320 --> 00:37:02,960
Speaker 5: can we change them? And with Cardenas, it was a

787
00:37:03,080 --> 00:37:06,319
Speaker 5: complete investment in his stuff and his raw ability. So

788
00:37:06,360 --> 00:37:08,480
Speaker 5: the fact that he's even listed here, I think speaks

789
00:37:08,520 --> 00:37:12,040
Speaker 5: to him having made some good progress over the course

790
00:37:12,080 --> 00:37:16,000
Speaker 5: of this offseason heading into Welby's first full year.

791
00:37:16,280 --> 00:37:19,040
Speaker 8: I think to make the case not in the same

792
00:37:19,120 --> 00:37:22,080
Speaker 8: sentence of being such a high re ranked prospect, but

793
00:37:22,160 --> 00:37:24,040
Speaker 8: in the same sense of maybe not doing so much

794
00:37:24,080 --> 00:37:27,040
Speaker 8: in college or in other leagues. You look a guy

795
00:37:27,080 --> 00:37:30,400
Speaker 8: like Jake Ferdy, he had fifteen innings pitched in college

796
00:37:30,440 --> 00:37:34,000
Speaker 8: over three seasons, and the Marlin's taking a chance on

797
00:37:34,120 --> 00:37:37,680
Speaker 8: him and for him to be even selected in this

798
00:37:38,239 --> 00:37:40,719
Speaker 8: in the forty man pool really says something there. I know,

799
00:37:40,719 --> 00:37:43,440
Speaker 8: you look at his era and everything in the minors

800
00:37:43,480 --> 00:37:45,799
Speaker 8: not so great. I believe it's around six. But a

801
00:37:45,800 --> 00:37:49,279
Speaker 8: guy who had fifteen innings in college to now being

802
00:37:49,360 --> 00:37:52,960
Speaker 8: part of spring breakout preliminary pool roster, I think is so.

803
00:37:53,040 --> 00:37:55,320
Speaker 8: It says a lot about the Marlins pitching development.

804
00:37:55,880 --> 00:37:59,240
Speaker 6: Yeah you were lying about Exaeviccard of then US twenty

805
00:37:59,280 --> 00:38:01,800
Speaker 6: six games pitch for San Diego State.

806
00:38:01,640 --> 00:38:02,719
Speaker 4: In twenty twenty five.

807
00:38:02,760 --> 00:38:05,640
Speaker 6: He had a nine point twenty four earned run average

808
00:38:06,640 --> 00:38:11,040
Speaker 6: while allowing sixty three hits in just fifty innings pitch.

809
00:38:11,200 --> 00:38:13,759
Speaker 6: So he he did have eight innings of professional ball

810
00:38:13,840 --> 00:38:14,880
Speaker 6: last year and only gave.

811
00:38:14,800 --> 00:38:18,600
Speaker 4: Up two in runs. But yeah, this is this is different.

812
00:38:18,680 --> 00:38:21,319
Speaker 6: I don't not to make this a staff meeting, but

813
00:38:21,440 --> 00:38:23,399
Speaker 6: I think I'm gonna just write up what I think

814
00:38:23,440 --> 00:38:25,719
Speaker 6: the twenty three to twenty seven man roster should be

815
00:38:25,760 --> 00:38:28,600
Speaker 6: when they announced it finally on March eighteenth, because what

816
00:38:28,640 --> 00:38:29,839
Speaker 6: the heck are we supposed to do with this?

817
00:38:30,080 --> 00:38:31,240
Speaker 4: This is just baloney.

818
00:38:32,160 --> 00:38:36,880
Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, Dylan Head in PJ twenty six twenty seven

819
00:38:37,040 --> 00:38:40,480
Speaker 8: is crazy, Like I feel like Dylan, Why do they

820
00:38:40,480 --> 00:38:43,239
Speaker 8: have Dylan Head there? That's that's a.

821
00:38:43,239 --> 00:38:46,719
Speaker 6: Discusf well that that's how pipeline operates.

822
00:38:47,000 --> 00:38:48,439
Speaker 4: Had missed obviously a lot of time.

823
00:38:48,600 --> 00:38:50,560
Speaker 6: I haven't been able to see him firsthand, so we

824
00:38:50,560 --> 00:38:52,960
Speaker 6: don't know what exactly that hip surgery has done to

825
00:38:53,040 --> 00:38:55,879
Speaker 6: maybe a speed or whatever. But him being twenty six

826
00:38:55,960 --> 00:38:59,640
Speaker 6: is egregious and right in front of PJ and Orlando

827
00:38:59,719 --> 00:39:02,040
Speaker 6: makes it just adds insult to injury. I think that's

828
00:39:02,040 --> 00:39:06,600
Speaker 6: preposters and they just love ranking draft picks ridiculously high.

829
00:39:06,680 --> 00:39:08,319
Speaker 4: Or particularly college draft picks.

830
00:39:08,360 --> 00:39:11,680
Speaker 6: Still no matter what, no matter what round you were selected,

831
00:39:11,719 --> 00:39:15,640
Speaker 6: you're gonna be ranked on MLB Pipelines draft board, which

832
00:39:15,680 --> 00:39:16,840
Speaker 6: is just you know, injuries.

833
00:39:16,840 --> 00:39:18,280
Speaker 4: I'm not a huge I don't.

834
00:39:18,320 --> 00:39:21,160
Speaker 6: Hate Brandon Compton for example, but you know, for him

835
00:39:21,160 --> 00:39:25,280
Speaker 6: to be ranked where he is, it's just it's interesting

836
00:39:25,320 --> 00:39:26,439
Speaker 6: to me the way this is done.

837
00:39:26,480 --> 00:39:30,520
Speaker 2: But anyway, I wanted to reply to that previous comment

838
00:39:30,560 --> 00:39:32,960
Speaker 2: that just showed up on the screen about Jake Charity

839
00:39:33,800 --> 00:39:36,319
Speaker 2: not being able to control the strike zone, and I

840
00:39:36,320 --> 00:39:39,040
Speaker 2: think That's fascinating because there's a couple of guys on

841
00:39:39,080 --> 00:39:43,120
Speaker 2: this list, in particular, Jake Verity and Colby Martin, who

842
00:39:43,239 --> 00:39:46,080
Speaker 2: who got some action in I think it was the

843
00:39:46,200 --> 00:39:49,120
Speaker 2: second or third spring training game, and I really liked

844
00:39:49,120 --> 00:39:51,400
Speaker 2: his stuff. It was the one where the Cardinals actually

845
00:39:51,440 --> 00:39:54,440
Speaker 2: walked off the Marlins on that wild pitch. I'm not

846
00:39:54,480 --> 00:39:57,960
Speaker 2: that greape. Fruit League results matter, but I like Farity's

847
00:39:58,000 --> 00:40:00,719
Speaker 2: stuff and I like Colby martin stuff a lot. This

848
00:40:00,760 --> 00:40:03,120
Speaker 2: is gonna be a huge season for a lot of

849
00:40:03,160 --> 00:40:06,000
Speaker 2: these guys, but those two in particular, because they're bullpen

850
00:40:06,920 --> 00:40:11,040
Speaker 2: exclusive arms to really take a step forward in terms

851
00:40:11,040 --> 00:40:14,640
Speaker 2: of command. Colby Martin, I think, is twenty four years old.

852
00:40:14,640 --> 00:40:16,600
Speaker 2: I know Jake Verdy was in college. He might be

853
00:40:16,640 --> 00:40:20,480
Speaker 2: a year or two younger, but twenty two okay, So

854
00:40:20,840 --> 00:40:23,279
Speaker 2: a big season ahead of them and in order just

855
00:40:23,320 --> 00:40:27,040
Speaker 2: to establish themselves on the radar of the front office.

856
00:40:27,239 --> 00:40:32,040
Speaker 2: And going back to the position side outfielders who isn't

857
00:40:32,080 --> 00:40:35,640
Speaker 2: ranked Matthew Etsel. I like what Matthew Etsel has done.

858
00:40:35,680 --> 00:40:38,840
Speaker 2: I like his profile. He feels like a relatively safe

859
00:40:38,880 --> 00:40:42,759
Speaker 2: floor fourth outfielder type player. You know a lot of

860
00:40:42,800 --> 00:40:46,360
Speaker 2: speed hits, the ball hard and he's got a great nickname,

861
00:40:46,520 --> 00:40:48,040
Speaker 2: James Harden the beard.

862
00:40:50,440 --> 00:40:51,120
Speaker 9: I call them that.

863
00:40:54,400 --> 00:40:57,440
Speaker 5: It's a I guess it's a young, hardened started beard

864
00:40:57,480 --> 00:41:01,400
Speaker 5: where it was not crazy long, but in terms of

865
00:41:01,480 --> 00:41:04,800
Speaker 5: the thickness and the actual texture of it, it is

866
00:41:04,840 --> 00:41:07,640
Speaker 5: a pretty close match to it. He had been keeping

867
00:41:07,640 --> 00:41:10,120
Speaker 5: track of the exit V low leaders for the Marlins

868
00:41:10,239 --> 00:41:12,200
Speaker 5: spring and you kind of alluded to it where he is.

869
00:41:12,280 --> 00:41:14,160
Speaker 5: He's had several of the very hardest hip balls of

870
00:41:14,400 --> 00:41:17,520
Speaker 5: any Marlins player so far. For a guy that can

871
00:41:17,880 --> 00:41:21,359
Speaker 5: might be able to fake it in center field, that's man,

872
00:41:21,360 --> 00:41:24,839
Speaker 5: that's exciting. That was the Nick Fortes trade that they

873
00:41:24,840 --> 00:41:28,160
Speaker 5: were able to acquire him for the one where four

874
00:41:28,200 --> 00:41:32,319
Speaker 5: tests had value after all, and that could be kind

875
00:41:32,360 --> 00:41:35,480
Speaker 5: of interesting. We've talked already on the show about like

876
00:41:35,600 --> 00:41:38,239
Speaker 5: several other outfielders like I don't know, there's not like

877
00:41:38,280 --> 00:41:41,520
Speaker 5: an obvious opening for him with him, especially being another

878
00:41:41,640 --> 00:41:44,759
Speaker 5: left handed hitting outfielder. So if we think that the

879
00:41:44,840 --> 00:41:48,120
Speaker 5: fit for the imminent fit for the camp Alderman is

880
00:41:48,120 --> 00:41:50,760
Speaker 5: going to be kind of tricky, it's even trickier for Etsel,

881
00:41:51,040 --> 00:41:53,440
Speaker 5: except for going back to the center field thing. You know,

882
00:41:53,480 --> 00:41:55,840
Speaker 5: if they actually feel that he is a decent center fielder,

883
00:41:56,239 --> 00:41:58,600
Speaker 5: then the path is a lot clearer than it could be,

884
00:41:58,760 --> 00:42:01,799
Speaker 5: just a matter of it might not be that long

885
00:42:01,840 --> 00:42:04,760
Speaker 5: into the season before he's the backup on this roster

886
00:42:04,880 --> 00:42:08,799
Speaker 5: behind Marcy, or if Marcy gets hurt God forbid, then

887
00:42:08,840 --> 00:42:12,000
Speaker 5: that really opens up a big question mark. So that's

888
00:42:12,040 --> 00:42:15,239
Speaker 5: when he might come in and factor into that situation.

889
00:42:18,520 --> 00:42:19,359
Speaker 7: But yeah, so.

890
00:42:19,280 --> 00:42:23,480
Speaker 5: They are playing Astros prospects in this showcase a couple.

891
00:42:23,560 --> 00:42:27,719
Speaker 7: Weeks from now, and just you know, sort of related topic.

892
00:42:27,760 --> 00:42:29,880
Speaker 5: I guess that's coming a lot earlier about Christopher Morel

893
00:42:29,960 --> 00:42:31,960
Speaker 5: that I want to address. Yes, he is a two

894
00:42:32,080 --> 00:42:36,160
Speaker 5: twenty two lifetime hitter and he is getting a lot

895
00:42:36,160 --> 00:42:38,799
Speaker 5: of I've been surprised like how lopsided the first base

896
00:42:38,840 --> 00:42:40,520
Speaker 5: reps have been so far, where it is a lot

897
00:42:40,520 --> 00:42:43,439
Speaker 5: of moral We've only seen Conine there once so far.

898
00:42:43,760 --> 00:42:47,279
Speaker 5: We've not seen Roberto Hernandez there, even though they tried

899
00:42:47,320 --> 00:42:50,839
Speaker 5: to work him out there at first base pregame last

900
00:42:50,920 --> 00:42:52,719
Speaker 5: year and never actually got it onto the field.

901
00:42:52,760 --> 00:42:53,680
Speaker 7: Haven't seen that yet.

902
00:42:53,960 --> 00:42:57,080
Speaker 5: We haven't seen Grand Pauli there and well Grandpalla hasn't

903
00:42:57,080 --> 00:43:00,600
Speaker 5: been anywhere yet because of his is my your four

904
00:43:00,719 --> 00:43:04,799
Speaker 5: arm soreness issue that he's coming back from. So they like,

905
00:43:04,880 --> 00:43:06,400
Speaker 5: all indications are you're going to see a lot of

906
00:43:06,400 --> 00:43:09,240
Speaker 5: MOREL and especially a lot of MORELL at first base

907
00:43:09,760 --> 00:43:13,799
Speaker 5: early on for this upcoming season. So it kind of

908
00:43:14,040 --> 00:43:16,600
Speaker 5: like goes into the line before I mentioned with Edsel

909
00:43:16,719 --> 00:43:19,239
Speaker 5: that he is hitting the ball hard and hitting it

910
00:43:19,239 --> 00:43:21,359
Speaker 5: consistently hard in spring games, even though if it's not

911
00:43:21,800 --> 00:43:25,319
Speaker 5: leading to any notable results to this point, like that's

912
00:43:25,320 --> 00:43:27,680
Speaker 5: something That's why they got him most of all, is

913
00:43:27,680 --> 00:43:29,920
Speaker 5: because they think that the power in there is still

914
00:43:30,040 --> 00:43:33,279
Speaker 5: plus power and it's just about unlocking that. If they

915
00:43:33,280 --> 00:43:35,640
Speaker 5: can put him at whether, then we need to put

916
00:43:35,680 --> 00:43:37,800
Speaker 5: him on the diamond in order to get him at bats,

917
00:43:37,880 --> 00:43:40,440
Speaker 5: then they think it's gonna be worth it. So it's

918
00:43:40,719 --> 00:43:42,400
Speaker 5: if he hits two twenty two, it could still be

919
00:43:42,440 --> 00:43:45,440
Speaker 5: a successful year. He also hit twenty five bombs to go.

920
00:43:45,400 --> 00:43:46,080
Speaker 7: Along with it.

921
00:43:51,719 --> 00:43:53,400
Speaker 5: But I am going to be curious to see how

922
00:43:53,440 --> 00:43:56,000
Speaker 5: they split up the first base reps moving forward, because

923
00:43:56,160 --> 00:43:59,120
Speaker 5: it was because it was Hicks before he went on

924
00:43:59,239 --> 00:44:01,480
Speaker 5: to the WBC that at least got one start there,

925
00:44:02,120 --> 00:44:05,160
Speaker 5: and that's that's Yeah. I'm still a little fuzzy in

926
00:44:05,239 --> 00:44:07,160
Speaker 5: terms of how it's gonna play out once the regular

927
00:44:07,160 --> 00:44:09,919
Speaker 5: season begins, but most they're kind of sending a pretty

928
00:44:09,920 --> 00:44:11,520
Speaker 5: strong message that it's gonna be a lot of Morel

929
00:44:12,080 --> 00:44:14,880
Speaker 5: at first base or early in the season, and the

930
00:44:14,920 --> 00:44:18,279
Speaker 5: results in entiny sample they have been kind of mixed defensively,

931
00:44:18,320 --> 00:44:20,759
Speaker 5: where I remember, like the very first ending of the

932
00:44:20,840 --> 00:44:23,279
Speaker 5: very first spring game, made this awesome play, and then

933
00:44:23,320 --> 00:44:31,440
Speaker 5: since that, yeah, there have been some questions about his

934
00:44:31,800 --> 00:44:35,160
Speaker 5: actually scooping balls in the dirt and positioning and stuff

935
00:44:35,200 --> 00:44:37,839
Speaker 5: like that. So he'll still have time to let that

936
00:44:37,880 --> 00:44:42,839
Speaker 5: play out, and they're they're rolling with him, and at

937
00:44:42,920 --> 00:44:45,520
Speaker 5: least for early We always talked about Paddick and how

938
00:44:45,560 --> 00:44:46,840
Speaker 5: long the leash is going to be with him. I

939
00:44:46,880 --> 00:44:49,239
Speaker 5: think Morel's kind of in the same category. It was

940
00:44:49,280 --> 00:44:53,919
Speaker 5: similar money, slightly smaller contract for Morel, but where yeah,

941
00:44:53,920 --> 00:44:56,520
Speaker 5: it's gonna be a relatively long leash just because they

942
00:44:57,040 --> 00:44:59,840
Speaker 5: believe in the power potential that he has and unless

943
00:44:59,840 --> 00:45:02,680
Speaker 5: they get a lot of power from some unexpected places

944
00:45:02,719 --> 00:45:05,319
Speaker 5: else were in the lineup, they're gonna try to make

945
00:45:05,360 --> 00:45:09,920
Speaker 5: that work and be patient with it. I guess we

946
00:45:09,960 --> 00:45:11,520
Speaker 5: could finish off with, Yeah, there's a few.

947
00:45:11,360 --> 00:45:16,160
Speaker 2: Guys in this lineup that have the power to not

948
00:45:16,320 --> 00:45:18,839
Speaker 2: hit forty five bombs fifty bombs, but I think there's

949
00:45:18,880 --> 00:45:22,920
Speaker 2: some consistent power in this lineup. Morell could hit twenty bombs.

950
00:45:23,200 --> 00:45:27,839
Speaker 2: I think Stours obviously, Augustine, and then Owen Casey if

951
00:45:27,840 --> 00:45:31,560
Speaker 2: he gets enough playing time. Also look out for Erberto Hernandez.

952
00:45:31,600 --> 00:45:33,799
Speaker 2: Really like what he's doing. I think he's gonna take

953
00:45:33,840 --> 00:45:36,879
Speaker 2: a huge step forward this season. It just for me again,

954
00:45:36,920 --> 00:45:38,840
Speaker 2: it comes down to is he going to get consistent

955
00:45:38,880 --> 00:45:41,319
Speaker 2: playing time. I think he will. I think he will

956
00:45:41,320 --> 00:45:44,000
Speaker 2: be in a right handed power bat. They're gonna want

957
00:45:44,000 --> 00:45:49,080
Speaker 2: that in some capacity. So the lineup, actually, it's starting

958
00:45:49,120 --> 00:45:52,160
Speaker 2: to excite me when I see it on paper. I'm

959
00:45:52,200 --> 00:45:56,040
Speaker 2: looking at Kevin's projection here. It's not half bad.

960
00:45:56,160 --> 00:45:56,680
Speaker 7: I like it.

961
00:46:00,600 --> 00:46:01,399
Speaker 9: Let's wrap up.

962
00:46:01,320 --> 00:46:05,080
Speaker 5: With some WBC talk then, because I know that Daniel's

963
00:46:05,080 --> 00:46:08,800
Speaker 5: really into that. And we have a sponsorship with Fox

964
00:46:08,840 --> 00:46:12,520
Speaker 5: one that is going over the next couple weeks that

965
00:46:12,560 --> 00:46:16,080
Speaker 5: we want to tell people about. So Jeremiah fill them

966
00:46:16,080 --> 00:46:19,160
Speaker 5: in in terms of what is available with Fox one.

967
00:46:21,600 --> 00:46:24,360
Speaker 5: All of our World Baseball Classic coverage is brought to

968
00:46:24,360 --> 00:46:26,680
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969
00:46:26,719 --> 00:46:31,960
Speaker 5: Fox favorites together live in one place, including all WBC games.

970
00:46:31,680 --> 00:46:34,080
Speaker 2: Over the next few weeks, and after that the best

971
00:46:34,200 --> 00:46:37,400
Speaker 2: MLB action all season long, from the WBC through the

972
00:46:37,400 --> 00:46:40,120
Speaker 2: World Series to the World Cup which is this year,

973
00:46:40,520 --> 00:46:43,200
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974
00:46:43,280 --> 00:46:47,160
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975
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976
00:46:50,480 --> 00:46:54,280
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977
00:46:54,360 --> 00:46:58,000
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978
00:46:58,040 --> 00:47:00,160
Speaker 2: Fox One streaming now.

979
00:47:01,800 --> 00:47:07,680
Speaker 8: Lovelly, So I'm excited for the Classic it is. Yeah.

980
00:47:07,680 --> 00:47:10,200
Speaker 5: So we had Kevin there today, Isaac there as well

981
00:47:10,239 --> 00:47:13,680
Speaker 5: for the workout day for Pool Pool D. For anybody

982
00:47:13,719 --> 00:47:16,840
Speaker 5: that's unfamiliar Pool D. The Classic is going to be

983
00:47:17,280 --> 00:47:20,439
Speaker 5: based in Lone Depot Park as it was last time.

984
00:47:21,120 --> 00:47:25,759
Speaker 5: That's the d R Venezuela, Israel, Nicaragua. Off the top

985
00:47:25,760 --> 00:47:29,440
Speaker 5: of my head, I gotta get the fifth one Netherlands,

986
00:47:29,480 --> 00:47:29,839
Speaker 5: thank you.

987
00:47:31,440 --> 00:47:33,640
Speaker 7: So you know, let me throw this up so.

988
00:47:33,640 --> 00:47:37,840
Speaker 8: That team profar right there at Nolands.

989
00:47:39,280 --> 00:47:39,640
Speaker 4: Yeah.

990
00:47:40,200 --> 00:47:43,120
Speaker 5: So there's the games already underway all the way across

991
00:47:43,160 --> 00:47:46,120
Speaker 5: the other side of the world in the pool. See

992
00:47:46,239 --> 00:47:48,880
Speaker 5: in Tokyo and then the other games get started just

993
00:47:48,880 --> 00:47:52,359
Speaker 5: a matter of hours from now coming up, where there's

994
00:47:52,360 --> 00:47:54,480
Speaker 5: gonna be double headers on most days and most of

995
00:47:54,520 --> 00:47:57,839
Speaker 5: these pools, and so I think a lot of eyes

996
00:47:57,880 --> 00:48:00,360
Speaker 5: are going to be on the US and just seeing

997
00:48:00,360 --> 00:48:02,880
Speaker 5: how dominant this team can be because they made it

998
00:48:02,920 --> 00:48:06,279
Speaker 5: all the way to the championship last time, and you know,

999
00:48:06,360 --> 00:48:09,880
Speaker 5: not in the most authoritative fashion and then ultimately didn't

1000
00:48:09,880 --> 00:48:12,359
Speaker 5: get over the hump and get it done. So now

1001
00:48:12,400 --> 00:48:16,560
Speaker 5: expectations are going to be heightened even more there. But yeah,

1002
00:48:16,680 --> 00:48:18,319
Speaker 5: with Pool D, we gotta wait all the way un

1003
00:48:18,320 --> 00:48:20,239
Speaker 5: till the ends of Pool D to see Sandy pitch.

1004
00:48:20,760 --> 00:48:23,720
Speaker 5: And I'll be curious to see how they use Gus

1005
00:48:23,880 --> 00:48:26,800
Speaker 5: over the course of that, because he's the clear The

1006
00:48:27,120 --> 00:48:29,400
Speaker 5: one white guy on the d R team is Austin

1007
00:48:29,400 --> 00:48:31,640
Speaker 5: Wells that I think is kind of ahead of him

1008
00:48:31,640 --> 00:48:34,520
Speaker 5: on the catching depth chart. They might they might just

1009
00:48:34,520 --> 00:48:38,000
Speaker 5: be saving Gus for when Sandy pitches in his particular game.

1010
00:48:40,520 --> 00:48:42,359
Speaker 5: Why don't we hear from you, Daniel in terms of

1011
00:48:42,560 --> 00:48:45,120
Speaker 5: are there any games in Pool D that you're gonna

1012
00:48:45,320 --> 00:48:47,600
Speaker 5: try to make it out to or which one, even

1013
00:48:47,640 --> 00:48:51,600
Speaker 5: if not, which ones are most intrigued to watch live.

1014
00:48:52,480 --> 00:48:54,560
Speaker 8: I want to see how they well. I want to

1015
00:48:54,560 --> 00:48:58,360
Speaker 8: see the United States does against that Italy team. I

1016
00:48:58,360 --> 00:49:01,000
Speaker 8: think Italy is one of the most under the teams

1017
00:49:01,000 --> 00:49:05,120
Speaker 8: in the tournament. Moreland Jacob Marcy will command center field.

1018
00:49:05,160 --> 00:49:07,640
Speaker 8: I think he could have a really dominant tournament and

1019
00:49:08,000 --> 00:49:10,879
Speaker 8: lead up to opening day that they're a really great team.

1020
00:49:10,960 --> 00:49:13,879
Speaker 8: They have guys like Mark Michael Lorenzen. Their ACE will

1021
00:49:13,920 --> 00:49:17,719
Speaker 8: be Aaron Nola, former Marelond Kyle Nicholas is also on

1022
00:49:17,760 --> 00:49:21,240
Speaker 8: that staff. Adam Montavino. Just looking here at Kyle Till

1023
00:49:21,360 --> 00:49:25,600
Speaker 8: top prospect and former Marelond John Birdie. Then you have

1024
00:49:25,680 --> 00:49:28,680
Speaker 8: Vinnie Pascantino. That's a really underrated team, a lot of

1025
00:49:28,719 --> 00:49:31,239
Speaker 8: major league talent, a lot of major league players, a

1026
00:49:31,280 --> 00:49:35,200
Speaker 8: lot of guys who are top prospects. Italy can. Don't

1027
00:49:35,239 --> 00:49:38,279
Speaker 8: be surprised if Italy comes out as second place team

1028
00:49:38,400 --> 00:49:41,440
Speaker 8: and Pool B in advances. That's a team I can

1029
00:49:41,520 --> 00:49:43,920
Speaker 8: really do some damage in terms of Pool D. I

1030
00:49:44,239 --> 00:49:48,000
Speaker 8: think everyone has their eyes on Venezuela against the Dominican Republic.

1031
00:49:48,320 --> 00:49:50,879
Speaker 8: All of Miami will be out there for that game.

1032
00:49:50,920 --> 00:49:53,040
Speaker 8: I know a few years ago it was also Venezuela

1033
00:49:53,080 --> 00:49:57,440
Speaker 8: against the Dominican Republic, and that was just just so

1034
00:49:57,560 --> 00:49:59,719
Speaker 8: many people there. It was just insane to just go

1035
00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:01,960
Speaker 8: around that era, just the amount of people, and it

1036
00:50:02,080 --> 00:50:04,280
Speaker 8: just delivered one of the best games of the tournament.

1037
00:50:04,480 --> 00:50:08,160
Speaker 8: You're having two top teams there and maybe another team

1038
00:50:08,160 --> 00:50:10,920
Speaker 8: there that's underrated. I would go with the Netherlands. I

1039
00:50:10,960 --> 00:50:14,640
Speaker 8: think Netherlands have really great pedigree in terms of their

1040
00:50:14,680 --> 00:50:19,000
Speaker 8: top players. You have the Profar Brothers, you have Xander Bogart's,

1041
00:50:19,320 --> 00:50:20,759
Speaker 8: you have a lot of players as there. You have

1042
00:50:21,000 --> 00:50:24,840
Speaker 8: made Eli Know as well D D. Gregorias. The Netherlands

1043
00:50:24,880 --> 00:50:27,520
Speaker 8: will be the sneaky team. I don't think Netherlands, Israel

1044
00:50:27,640 --> 00:50:29,959
Speaker 8: Nik and Awa Bull make it out. I think there's

1045
00:50:30,880 --> 00:50:33,800
Speaker 8: one percent chance at most that any of those teams

1046
00:50:33,800 --> 00:50:35,960
Speaker 8: make it out. But if one of them has to

1047
00:50:36,000 --> 00:50:38,040
Speaker 8: sneak a couple wins, I would go up the Netherlands.

1048
00:50:38,040 --> 00:50:41,600
Speaker 8: But for Pool B, like I mentioned, I think the

1049
00:50:41,680 --> 00:50:44,200
Speaker 8: sleeper team maybe of the whole tournament, will be Italy.

1050
00:50:45,400 --> 00:50:47,719
Speaker 5: There's something you mentioned there where I was with my

1051
00:50:47,920 --> 00:50:50,360
Speaker 5: dad a couple of nights ago. I went over to

1052
00:50:50,360 --> 00:50:53,480
Speaker 5: his place and he had a question about the WBCV

1053
00:50:53,520 --> 00:50:57,799
Speaker 5: because he saw the name Gregorious with the Netherlands, and

1054
00:50:58,239 --> 00:51:01,440
Speaker 5: he's a DD. He had the best stretch of his

1055
00:51:01,440 --> 00:51:03,759
Speaker 5: major league career with the Yankees. My dad is a

1056
00:51:03,760 --> 00:51:05,880
Speaker 5: diehard Yankees fan. He was in disbelief that he was

1057
00:51:05,920 --> 00:51:07,920
Speaker 5: still playing, that he was still an active player. He

1058
00:51:08,120 --> 00:51:11,000
Speaker 5: like assumed that it was some relative, some younger relative

1059
00:51:11,040 --> 00:51:14,040
Speaker 5: that was still around. And Gregorious is not actually as

1060
00:51:14,080 --> 00:51:16,400
Speaker 5: old as I thought he was. He's just thirty six,

1061
00:51:16,560 --> 00:51:20,439
Speaker 5: but he's been He declined pretty precipitously after he left

1062
00:51:20,440 --> 00:51:23,480
Speaker 5: the Yankees. So that's that's an interesting surprise too, when

1063
00:51:23,480 --> 00:51:27,400
Speaker 5: you get older guys that you assumed had retired, but

1064
00:51:27,480 --> 00:51:30,080
Speaker 5: they come back. I mean, the most obvious example in

1065
00:51:30,120 --> 00:51:32,719
Speaker 5: the US is Clayton Kershaw still being involved with this

1066
00:51:32,800 --> 00:51:36,120
Speaker 5: staff even though he formally retired from Major League Baseball,

1067
00:51:36,200 --> 00:51:38,480
Speaker 5: that he's this is going to be his real retirement

1068
00:51:38,560 --> 00:51:39,160
Speaker 5: as a player.

1069
00:51:39,520 --> 00:51:41,080
Speaker 9: That's a more prominent example.

1070
00:51:41,200 --> 00:51:43,319
Speaker 5: If you really combed through these rosters, though, you see

1071
00:51:43,320 --> 00:51:47,239
Speaker 5: some other guys that have that are well past that

1072
00:51:47,360 --> 00:51:50,080
Speaker 5: glory days but still involved in this tournament.

1073
00:51:50,080 --> 00:51:52,719
Speaker 8: You see that a lot. Yeah, in terms of maybe

1074
00:51:52,719 --> 00:51:55,200
Speaker 8: players you do want to see, speaking the level one

1075
00:51:55,360 --> 00:51:59,759
Speaker 8: you have drew Jones sideOr Rafaela Ozzie Albi's well, we'll

1076
00:51:59,760 --> 00:52:02,120
Speaker 8: play there in Netherlands. You'll get to see him against

1077
00:52:02,120 --> 00:52:06,359
Speaker 8: his teammate Ronald Kunya, so that could be very interesting. Yeah,

1078
00:52:06,640 --> 00:52:09,160
Speaker 8: I think you can go around. I look at a

1079
00:52:09,160 --> 00:52:11,600
Speaker 8: team like Czech Republic. They have day jobs like all

1080
00:52:11,640 --> 00:52:15,440
Speaker 8: of us have. The team where the bat Korea I

1081
00:52:15,840 --> 00:52:21,080
Speaker 8: believe last WBC or they beat some team very underrated, Australia,

1082
00:52:21,280 --> 00:52:23,879
Speaker 8: very underrated. We saw them be Chinese Type Pei, which

1083
00:52:23,920 --> 00:52:27,440
Speaker 8: avis Pizana pool A I think is probably maybe the

1084
00:52:27,480 --> 00:52:33,239
Speaker 8: most complete pool in terms of all five teams that

1085
00:52:33,320 --> 00:52:36,239
Speaker 8: can go anyway. I think you could put it, you know,

1086
00:52:36,280 --> 00:52:37,560
Speaker 8: you could pick out of the hat. You have no

1087
00:52:37,600 --> 00:52:40,759
Speaker 8: idea who's gonna come out. I think Puerto Rico has

1088
00:52:40,800 --> 00:52:44,480
Speaker 8: been very hurt with the insurance policies and a lot

1089
00:52:44,480 --> 00:52:47,440
Speaker 8: of players getting injured. I think Puerto Rico is not

1090
00:52:47,680 --> 00:52:50,200
Speaker 8: as great as they used to be, but they still

1091
00:52:50,239 --> 00:52:52,400
Speaker 8: have the time to come out of that pool. Cuba,

1092
00:52:53,000 --> 00:52:55,680
Speaker 8: I believe, you know, if they were able to get

1093
00:52:55,680 --> 00:52:57,920
Speaker 8: all the Cuban players, they would easily be one of

1094
00:52:57,960 --> 00:53:00,680
Speaker 8: the best teams in this tournament. But uh, they have

1095
00:53:00,760 --> 00:53:03,479
Speaker 8: guys who are forty plus years old on that team,

1096
00:53:03,520 --> 00:53:05,440
Speaker 8: who have last played in the Majors maybe in the

1097
00:53:05,520 --> 00:53:10,280
Speaker 8: early two thousands. Panama another good one, and Canada also

1098
00:53:10,320 --> 00:53:13,920
Speaker 8: has a Marlon Ado Lopez who looks like uh I

1099
00:53:13,920 --> 00:53:16,120
Speaker 8: think will be very sneaky in this tournament.

1100
00:53:18,080 --> 00:53:21,600
Speaker 2: Speaking of Panama and to Eli's point about d D Gregorias,

1101
00:53:22,680 --> 00:53:25,800
Speaker 2: I just saw the other day Ruben Tahata is playing

1102
00:53:25,840 --> 00:53:29,080
Speaker 2: for Panama former met and I was I was like,

1103
00:53:29,120 --> 00:53:35,279
Speaker 2: I hadn't heard that name in years. Yeah, it's a

1104
00:53:35,320 --> 00:53:37,840
Speaker 2: it's a good time. I'm excited for the for this tournament.

1105
00:53:39,200 --> 00:53:42,600
Speaker 2: I really think it's gonna come down to the United

1106
00:53:42,640 --> 00:53:45,920
Speaker 2: States on one half of the bracket, and then who's

1107
00:53:45,920 --> 00:53:48,880
Speaker 2: gonna who's gonna come out of that other side between

1108
00:53:48,960 --> 00:53:52,200
Speaker 2: Japan and the Dominican Republic, because I do think the

1109
00:53:52,200 --> 00:53:57,160
Speaker 2: Dominican Republican absolutely beat Japan. But you know, Japan is

1110
00:53:57,200 --> 00:54:00,239
Speaker 2: the reigning champs, They're they're very good teams. So I'm

1111
00:54:00,239 --> 00:54:02,560
Speaker 2: excited for a lot of a lot of quality players

1112
00:54:02,880 --> 00:54:06,520
Speaker 2: like Daniel you were mentioning. Just on Team Italy, there

1113
00:54:06,560 --> 00:54:09,080
Speaker 2: was a lot of names that stood out to me there.

1114
00:54:09,400 --> 00:54:10,440
Speaker 8: I think they're going to compete.

1115
00:54:10,640 --> 00:54:11,600
Speaker 9: It's gonna be a fun time.

1116
00:54:12,520 --> 00:54:14,719
Speaker 8: Yeah, if you have a chance to go out, go

1117
00:54:14,800 --> 00:54:18,160
Speaker 8: watch it. First game tomorrow with Netherlands against Venezuela. I

1118
00:54:18,160 --> 00:54:21,439
Speaker 8: saw tickets going as low as fifteen dollars. Go out

1119
00:54:21,440 --> 00:54:24,600
Speaker 8: there watch watch jerks in Profar because you're not gonna

1120
00:54:24,600 --> 00:54:26,239
Speaker 8: get the chance to go do that for another one

1121
00:54:26,280 --> 00:54:30,680
Speaker 8: hundred and two games. But it's gonna be a lot

1122
00:54:30,719 --> 00:54:36,880
Speaker 8: of fun. Venezuela has a really great lineup Luis arayazd

1123
00:54:37,360 --> 00:54:39,320
Speaker 8: Ronald Dacuna and the list will go on and on

1124
00:54:39,320 --> 00:54:43,120
Speaker 8: in terms of Venezuela. But go ahead watch those games,

1125
00:54:43,200 --> 00:54:45,799
Speaker 8: a lot of fun. Isaac will be there, Kevin will

1126
00:54:45,840 --> 00:54:47,759
Speaker 8: be there. Go say hi if you see them. It's

1127
00:54:47,800 --> 00:54:50,200
Speaker 8: always a fun time to always uh to go watch

1128
00:54:50,239 --> 00:54:53,720
Speaker 8: those games.

1129
00:54:55,560 --> 00:54:57,359
Speaker 5: I want to give people a peak at the next

1130
00:54:57,440 --> 00:55:00,120
Speaker 5: couple of days TV schedule with this guide on on

1131
00:55:00,160 --> 00:55:03,400
Speaker 5: the website specifically for the WBC, and I made this

1132
00:55:03,600 --> 00:55:07,200
Speaker 5: table that kind of gives you an idea about what

1133
00:55:07,280 --> 00:55:09,279
Speaker 5: the next couple days looks like. So that's the first

1134
00:55:09,320 --> 00:55:11,520
Speaker 5: two games as we're recording this. The third game of

1135
00:55:11,560 --> 00:55:15,480
Speaker 5: the tournament is starting in a couple hours. Something you mentioned, Daniel,

1136
00:55:15,520 --> 00:55:17,560
Speaker 5: I wish I could find the table. But I saw

1137
00:55:17,600 --> 00:55:21,560
Speaker 5: that somebody put together all twenty teams and sorted them

1138
00:55:21,560 --> 00:55:26,280
Speaker 5: by the salaries of their combined players, major league salaries

1139
00:55:26,320 --> 00:55:30,160
Speaker 5: of or even just the professional salaries of every player

1140
00:55:30,239 --> 00:55:33,000
Speaker 5: like on their rosters. So when you combine all the

1141
00:55:33,040 --> 00:55:36,400
Speaker 5: salaries on the US team, it's close to four hundred

1142
00:55:36,440 --> 00:55:40,360
Speaker 5: million between just twenty of just a thirty man roster.

1143
00:55:40,760 --> 00:55:43,560
Speaker 5: On average, those guys are getting like thirteen million dollar

1144
00:55:43,640 --> 00:55:45,960
Speaker 5: salaries this year, and all the way at the bottom

1145
00:55:46,080 --> 00:55:46,719
Speaker 5: was here.

1146
00:55:48,040 --> 00:55:49,640
Speaker 8: Here. I don't know if you can see. It's on

1147
00:55:49,640 --> 00:55:52,400
Speaker 8: a hard rock bet. You have chess. Yeah, the total

1148
00:55:52,440 --> 00:55:54,279
Speaker 8: for the United States is three hundred and eighty three

1149
00:55:54,280 --> 00:55:58,759
Speaker 8: million Chessia one hundred, South Korea, Niconawa, Brazil. You keep

1150
00:55:58,840 --> 00:56:03,440
Speaker 8: going up, Israel twenty five, Kebo thirty three. Yeah, and

1151
00:56:03,480 --> 00:56:06,160
Speaker 8: then the top four of course, or top five you

1152
00:56:06,200 --> 00:56:09,560
Speaker 8: have USA, Dr Venezuela, Japan, and Puerto Rico. But was

1153
00:56:09,600 --> 00:56:11,600
Speaker 8: surprise with that Japan number. But I feel like that's

1154
00:56:11,640 --> 00:56:14,520
Speaker 8: gonna go up with a couple of seasons with players

1155
00:56:14,600 --> 00:56:19,399
Speaker 8: keep coming up, keep coming from Japan. Yeah, dr right

1156
00:56:19,400 --> 00:56:21,520
Speaker 8: there with the US. It really shows you how far

1157
00:56:21,600 --> 00:56:24,080
Speaker 8: the Dominican Republic has come. To the United States, where

1158
00:56:24,400 --> 00:56:27,359
Speaker 8: they're right there, they're only maybe eighty three a couple

1159
00:56:27,480 --> 00:56:28,680
Speaker 8: two three players off.

1160
00:56:29,000 --> 00:56:31,040
Speaker 5: Yeah, what I wonder is what figure they use for

1161
00:56:31,080 --> 00:56:34,840
Speaker 5: Otani in the japan calculation, because technically his salary this

1162
00:56:34,920 --> 00:56:38,120
Speaker 5: year is two million dollars, but his contract as a

1163
00:56:38,120 --> 00:56:41,439
Speaker 5: whole pays out on average it's seventy million dollars a year,

1164
00:56:41,760 --> 00:56:45,520
Speaker 5: and then if you calculate the actual present day value

1165
00:56:45,520 --> 00:56:48,520
Speaker 5: of the deal, it's like forty something million. So he

1166
00:56:48,520 --> 00:56:50,560
Speaker 5: he's either doing a lot of heavy lifting there or

1167
00:56:50,560 --> 00:56:52,319
Speaker 5: he might be dragging them down a little bit just

1168
00:56:52,320 --> 00:56:55,279
Speaker 5: because of all the deferrals in his contract under how

1169
00:56:55,360 --> 00:56:58,760
Speaker 5: exactly I didn't actually I don't know the precise process

1170
00:56:58,800 --> 00:57:02,720
Speaker 5: that they used in order to make sense of actual

1171
00:57:02,760 --> 00:57:11,400
Speaker 5: money versus deferrals and contracts. Starting tomorrow on March six, one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eights,

1172
00:57:11,440 --> 00:57:14,880
Speaker 5: because two a day on in each of the four pools,

1173
00:57:15,080 --> 00:57:16,600
Speaker 5: eight games a day, and it will be the same

1174
00:57:16,640 --> 00:57:20,400
Speaker 5: thing for I think the rest of the pool, or well,

1175
00:57:20,440 --> 00:57:22,240
Speaker 5: the next three or four days are all going.

1176
00:57:22,240 --> 00:57:22,640
Speaker 8: To be like that.

1177
00:57:23,280 --> 00:57:26,240
Speaker 5: Where it's truly there's a little break that we have

1178
00:57:26,880 --> 00:57:29,480
Speaker 5: on the East coast in the early afternoons, and then

1179
00:57:29,800 --> 00:57:32,040
Speaker 5: for Jeremiah on the West Coast, I think that window

1180
00:57:32,040 --> 00:57:34,640
Speaker 5: would be like in the late morning where you get

1181
00:57:34,680 --> 00:57:36,640
Speaker 5: a little bit of break where there's not going to

1182
00:57:36,640 --> 00:57:39,520
Speaker 5: be any live games going on and that's it. Otherwise

1183
00:57:39,800 --> 00:57:43,360
Speaker 5: you'll get to wake up and fall asleep to high

1184
00:57:43,400 --> 00:57:48,560
Speaker 5: stakes baseball two ones. I likened it to the MLB postseason.

1185
00:57:48,680 --> 00:57:52,520
Speaker 5: For the players themselves, it is I think once we

1186
00:57:52,600 --> 00:57:55,920
Speaker 5: get a couple decades from now and really revisit the

1187
00:57:56,080 --> 00:57:59,280
Speaker 5: WBC as it was happening in the present day, like

1188
00:57:59,400 --> 00:58:02,000
Speaker 5: this is going to impact players legacies in the same

1189
00:58:02,000 --> 00:58:04,600
Speaker 5: way that I think actual Major League playoff stuff does.

1190
00:58:04,880 --> 00:58:07,240
Speaker 5: And then for the fans themselves, it's not a whole

1191
00:58:07,240 --> 00:58:10,480
Speaker 5: other level. That's ultimately what really drives this and what

1192
00:58:10,560 --> 00:58:13,480
Speaker 5: makes the crowds so crazy is that for the fans themselves,

1193
00:58:13,560 --> 00:58:16,400
Speaker 5: this is kind of it's totally unique. It is totally different.

1194
00:58:16,720 --> 00:58:19,800
Speaker 5: The relationship they can make with their fellow countrymen during

1195
00:58:19,800 --> 00:58:22,520
Speaker 5: this tournament is unlike any relationship they can have with

1196
00:58:23,200 --> 00:58:27,520
Speaker 5: any other athletes and any other capacity. When they're representing

1197
00:58:27,520 --> 00:58:29,760
Speaker 5: their country and you have that in common, that's really

1198
00:58:29,800 --> 00:58:34,200
Speaker 5: what drives the intensity and has made this grow so

1199
00:58:34,280 --> 00:58:36,760
Speaker 5: much even compared to what it was a couple tournaments ago.

1200
00:58:37,040 --> 00:58:39,520
Speaker 5: Because of that, that's it's so unique.

1201
00:58:40,320 --> 00:58:43,840
Speaker 8: Yeah, I was watching late last night Australian and Chinese

1202
00:58:43,920 --> 00:58:47,320
Speaker 8: Taipei and Tokyo them and watching it. You could have

1203
00:58:47,320 --> 00:58:49,040
Speaker 8: totally you could have told me it was a playoff game,

1204
00:58:49,080 --> 00:58:51,240
Speaker 8: and I would have believed you. Every you hear music,

1205
00:58:51,280 --> 00:58:54,520
Speaker 8: you hear chance going throughout the stadium, and you know,

1206
00:58:54,600 --> 00:58:57,400
Speaker 8: these are two countries that are thousands of miles away

1207
00:58:57,520 --> 00:59:02,360
Speaker 8: from Japan and everyone there just making noise, making chance, crowds,

1208
00:59:02,360 --> 00:59:05,000
Speaker 8: whatever the case may be, in terms of just how

1209
00:59:05,080 --> 00:59:08,560
Speaker 8: much appreciation they have for baseball, for this tournament, being

1210
00:59:08,560 --> 00:59:11,600
Speaker 8: able to see these top players of their respective countries

1211
00:59:11,640 --> 00:59:14,439
Speaker 8: play in their stadium. And that's exactly how it's gonna

1212
00:59:14,440 --> 00:59:17,680
Speaker 8: be down here in Miami with the championship, one of

1213
00:59:17,680 --> 00:59:21,840
Speaker 8: the semi finals, it's gonna be electrical pool play. If

1214
00:59:21,880 --> 00:59:23,080
Speaker 8: you have a chance to go out and watch it.

1215
00:59:23,160 --> 00:59:25,880
Speaker 8: This is gonna be I think, top notch baseball if

1216
00:59:25,920 --> 00:59:28,000
Speaker 8: it is every year, and you always gonna have those

1217
00:59:28,080 --> 00:59:31,040
Speaker 8: key moments for every tournament.

1218
00:59:35,960 --> 00:59:37,640
Speaker 5: As we get to the one hour mark, we might

1219
00:59:37,680 --> 00:59:41,520
Speaker 5: as well wrap it up at this point then Yeah,

1220
00:59:41,640 --> 00:59:45,480
Speaker 5: heading into the meat of this tournament and heading into

1221
00:59:45,720 --> 00:59:49,760
Speaker 5: the meat of spring training almost exactly halfway from the

1222
00:59:50,640 --> 00:59:53,439
Speaker 5: Yeah to the end of the Grapefruit League schedule, So

1223
00:59:54,040 --> 00:59:57,760
Speaker 5: we appreciate everybody tuning in. We'll be back again next week,

1224
00:59:57,800 --> 01:00:02,280
Speaker 5: probably at a similar time in place and as always

1225
01:00:02,280 --> 01:00:05,440
Speaker 5: presented by jet Ski Rensels of South Florida, and as

1226
01:00:05,840 --> 01:00:07,680
Speaker 5: as we are just these past couple of weeks now

1227
01:00:07,680 --> 01:00:10,080
Speaker 5: part of the Foul Territory Network as well, so it

1228
01:00:10,200 --> 01:00:13,120
Speaker 5: is going to be in our coverage of this and

1229
01:00:13,360 --> 01:00:17,040
Speaker 5: the opportunity that we have to broaden our horizons and

1230
01:00:17,720 --> 01:00:21,040
Speaker 5: expand our audience is pretty unique. So we appreciate everybody

1231
01:00:21,080 --> 01:00:22,800
Speaker 5: that's stuck with us and all the new viewers that

1232
01:00:22,840 --> 01:00:27,320
Speaker 5: have hopped along just since this recent transition. Amy LA's Susban,

1233
01:00:27,400 --> 01:00:31,600
Speaker 5: Daniel Rodriguez, Jeremiah Geiger, we had Isaacazuit earlier, Nate Karzmer

1234
01:00:31,680 --> 01:00:34,920
Speaker 5: as well, and yeah, a whole lot. We have another

1235
01:00:35,000 --> 01:00:38,640
Speaker 5: pod with fish on Filtered coming out tomorrow morning as

1236
01:00:38,680 --> 01:00:40,600
Speaker 5: well that I think people are gonna enjoy. That is

1237
01:00:40,640 --> 01:00:43,240
Speaker 5: with our new co host aj Ramos, episode number two

1238
01:00:43,400 --> 01:00:46,200
Speaker 5: of the aj Ramos era. So for people that enjoy

1239
01:00:46,280 --> 01:00:49,680
Speaker 5: that as well, that's been a great wrinkle to what

1240
01:00:49,720 --> 01:00:52,400
Speaker 5: we do covering this team and how it's We're going

1241
01:00:52,480 --> 01:00:54,440
Speaker 5: to cover this team bigger and better this year than

1242
01:00:54,480 --> 01:00:56,880
Speaker 5: we have in the past. So yeah, we'll wrap it

1243
01:00:56,960 --> 01:00:59,760
Speaker 5: up right there. We'll talk to you again soon as

1244
01:00:59,760 --> 01:01:19,760
Speaker 5: all payse go Fish