1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:04,200 Speaker 1: Hello Texans, and welcome to NRG Stadium, home of the 2 00:00:04,240 --> 00:00:06,600 Speaker 1: Texans on the Houston Livestock Show and Rodeo. And that's 3 00:00:06,600 --> 00:00:08,039 Speaker 1: how I began the show the other night, and that's 4 00:00:08,039 --> 00:00:09,959 Speaker 1: how I begin it tonight because it is Rodeo season. 5 00:00:10,039 --> 00:00:14,360 Speaker 1: Mark vandermer with you joined tonight with the General John McClain, 6 00:00:15,080 --> 00:00:18,599 Speaker 1: the Houston Chronicle Hall of Fame writer. General. Are you 7 00:00:18,640 --> 00:00:21,759 Speaker 1: a big rodeo guy? Uh No, Okay, I've been to 8 00:00:21,760 --> 00:00:23,520 Speaker 1: the Rodeo. I grew up going to the Heart of 9 00:00:23,600 --> 00:00:26,880 Speaker 1: Texas Fair and Rodeo in Waco. It's right down the street. 10 00:00:27,200 --> 00:00:28,800 Speaker 1: When I was a little kid, I got to go 11 00:00:28,840 --> 00:00:32,240 Speaker 1: out on the dirt and be interviewed by Roy Rogers, 12 00:00:32,280 --> 00:00:34,320 Speaker 1: which was the highlight of my life. But you were 13 00:00:34,360 --> 00:00:37,360 Speaker 1: interviewed by Roy Rogers. Stop the presses. This is the 14 00:00:37,440 --> 00:00:40,360 Speaker 1: lead of the show. You were interviewed by Roy Rogers. 15 00:00:40,360 --> 00:00:42,479 Speaker 1: You got to ask him one question. I asked him 16 00:00:42,479 --> 00:00:45,680 Speaker 1: why he tucked his jeans in his boots. Oh, you 17 00:00:45,720 --> 00:00:49,800 Speaker 1: interviewed him. Well, he posted like art link Letter. How 18 00:00:49,840 --> 00:00:52,080 Speaker 1: many people know who Roy Rogers and art link Letter 19 00:00:52,080 --> 00:00:53,880 Speaker 1: were But not many. But if you do, And that's 20 00:00:53,880 --> 00:00:56,440 Speaker 1: why I think this is a tremendous thing. Okay, and 21 00:00:56,640 --> 00:00:59,120 Speaker 1: enough people do. And the last time I was at 22 00:00:59,120 --> 00:01:01,920 Speaker 1: the rodeo here was when the band Perry played, And 23 00:01:01,960 --> 00:01:05,360 Speaker 1: the reason I was there is their their fiddle player, 24 00:01:05,440 --> 00:01:09,480 Speaker 1: band leader Jason Fritz, who's now on the ESPN, who 25 00:01:09,520 --> 00:01:11,640 Speaker 1: I'd known for a while, invited me to come out 26 00:01:12,040 --> 00:01:15,160 Speaker 1: for rehearsals and watch how they did everything, and then 27 00:01:15,240 --> 00:01:17,399 Speaker 1: got me great seats. But it was fun being out 28 00:01:17,440 --> 00:01:21,760 Speaker 1: watching the band rehearsal on that big, rotating, revolving stage 29 00:01:21,800 --> 00:01:28,200 Speaker 1: in the middle of the arena, and and that was fascinating. 30 00:01:28,240 --> 00:01:30,240 Speaker 1: I had a blast doing that. And then I was 31 00:01:30,280 --> 00:01:33,640 Speaker 1: out there because I know Martina McBride's drummer Greg Harrington, 32 00:01:33,720 --> 00:01:36,640 Speaker 1: big Cowboys fan, who was in Nashville, so I got 33 00:01:36,640 --> 00:01:39,120 Speaker 1: to come out with them one time. So I kind 34 00:01:39,160 --> 00:01:43,319 Speaker 1: of got spoiled. Now, my wife, who's from DC, when 35 00:01:43,400 --> 00:01:46,640 Speaker 1: we started we started dating thirty four years ago and 36 00:01:46,720 --> 00:01:50,040 Speaker 1: got married thirty three, she was fascinated by the rodeo 37 00:01:50,520 --> 00:01:52,600 Speaker 1: and she didn't want it. She wanted to go walk 38 00:01:52,720 --> 00:01:55,160 Speaker 1: up and down behind the bulls and the horses, and 39 00:01:55,200 --> 00:01:57,440 Speaker 1: I thought I grew up smelling horse, you know what. 40 00:01:58,000 --> 00:02:01,080 Speaker 1: And she was fascinated by the smell. Finally she got 41 00:02:01,080 --> 00:02:04,840 Speaker 1: tired of it, and we come out once a year 42 00:02:05,120 --> 00:02:07,480 Speaker 1: during the day and walk around the midway when it's 43 00:02:07,520 --> 00:02:10,800 Speaker 1: not is crowded. And I grew up at the writing 44 00:02:10,880 --> 00:02:13,960 Speaker 1: every fast, dangerous ride you could ride, and I'd like 45 00:02:14,040 --> 00:02:16,640 Speaker 1: to do it. Now I'm too old, fat, but she 46 00:02:16,760 --> 00:02:20,520 Speaker 1: has motion sickness, so I just watch everybody else with envy. 47 00:02:20,639 --> 00:02:22,600 Speaker 1: I don't go on any of those motion type riding. 48 00:02:22,639 --> 00:02:25,480 Speaker 1: You're a whimp too, you know I'm a whimp. That's it, okay. 49 00:02:25,600 --> 00:02:30,040 Speaker 1: The Texans free agency. We're inside two weeks till it starts, 50 00:02:30,520 --> 00:02:34,080 Speaker 1: and the legal tampering period will start and we'll know 51 00:02:34,200 --> 00:02:36,440 Speaker 1: soon enough where guys are going and what's going to happen. 52 00:02:36,639 --> 00:02:40,000 Speaker 1: So how aggressive or not aggressive do you expect the 53 00:02:40,040 --> 00:02:42,400 Speaker 1: Texans to be when the free agency period really begin? 54 00:02:42,520 --> 00:02:45,400 Speaker 1: The part we don't know. Bill o'mrian has been the 55 00:02:45,440 --> 00:02:48,399 Speaker 1: GM since June, but he was not the GM during 56 00:02:48,440 --> 00:02:51,639 Speaker 1: free agency last year. But based on what we saw 57 00:02:51,880 --> 00:02:55,160 Speaker 1: with Bill doing as far as trades and claims and 58 00:02:55,639 --> 00:03:00,360 Speaker 1: things he did from June on, I would expect him 59 00:03:00,400 --> 00:03:03,440 Speaker 1: to be aggressive. On the other hand, I think the 60 00:03:03,520 --> 00:03:06,320 Speaker 1: Texans have like fifty four or fifty six million last 61 00:03:06,360 --> 00:03:10,240 Speaker 1: time I check. And if they want to sign Tunsil 62 00:03:10,320 --> 00:03:13,840 Speaker 1: to an extension, they don't have to. He's under contract 63 00:03:13,840 --> 00:03:16,320 Speaker 1: for this year. They could franchise him two years. They 64 00:03:16,360 --> 00:03:19,960 Speaker 1: want to sign Watson to an extension, he's got two 65 00:03:20,080 --> 00:03:22,520 Speaker 1: years left. They could franchise him two years. And they'd 66 00:03:22,520 --> 00:03:25,239 Speaker 1: like to sign Zach Cunningham, who will probably be the easiest, 67 00:03:25,760 --> 00:03:28,440 Speaker 1: but you're not just going to give him whatever they want. 68 00:03:28,800 --> 00:03:30,560 Speaker 1: You know, Laramie Tunsil is going to be the highest 69 00:03:30,600 --> 00:03:34,240 Speaker 1: paid offensive lineman in history, but by how much? You know, 70 00:03:34,240 --> 00:03:36,200 Speaker 1: how much does he want his new agent? He fired 71 00:03:36,280 --> 00:03:38,800 Speaker 1: Jimmy Sexton, one of the best in business, and he's 72 00:03:38,840 --> 00:03:42,080 Speaker 1: looking for a new one. But how much does he 73 00:03:42,200 --> 00:03:45,080 Speaker 1: want twenty million a year to be the first lineman 74 00:03:45,120 --> 00:03:46,800 Speaker 1: at twenty million a year? Does they try to get 75 00:03:46,840 --> 00:03:48,520 Speaker 1: twenty two million? They're not just going to give him 76 00:03:48,600 --> 00:03:51,040 Speaker 1: whatever they want. And the same thing for Watson, the 77 00:03:51,080 --> 00:03:53,760 Speaker 1: same thing for Cunningham, the same thing for DJ Reader. 78 00:03:54,520 --> 00:03:57,080 Speaker 1: They're not going to franchise DJ because the franchise for 79 00:03:57,280 --> 00:04:00,600 Speaker 1: tackles fifteen million and you're not gonna pay a nose 80 00:04:00,680 --> 00:04:02,880 Speaker 1: tackle who's great against the run. But it's not a 81 00:04:02,920 --> 00:04:05,400 Speaker 1: pass rusher comes off the field that kind of money 82 00:04:05,440 --> 00:04:07,800 Speaker 1: because there's a lot of guys like that, and they 83 00:04:07,840 --> 00:04:11,000 Speaker 1: don't want to lose Reader because DJ is Bill O'Brien 84 00:04:11,040 --> 00:04:13,600 Speaker 1: always talks about great teammate. He is as great a 85 00:04:13,600 --> 00:04:16,280 Speaker 1: teammate as you can be. As you know, he's great 86 00:04:16,279 --> 00:04:18,800 Speaker 1: against the run. He can play end in the three 87 00:04:18,800 --> 00:04:21,960 Speaker 1: men in front, play on the nose. But in twenty 88 00:04:22,120 --> 00:04:24,680 Speaker 1: eighteen Brandon Done started ten games on the no which 89 00:04:24,760 --> 00:04:28,360 Speaker 1: knows when Reader had to move outside. Now, and so 90 00:04:28,600 --> 00:04:32,560 Speaker 1: I expect that Bill will be active, don't know. I 91 00:04:32,720 --> 00:04:36,359 Speaker 1: know they want corners, you know they whether there, whether 92 00:04:36,400 --> 00:04:39,800 Speaker 1: they resigned Bradley Roby, there's talk they're going after Byron 93 00:04:39,920 --> 00:04:43,200 Speaker 1: Jones is trying to break the bank for a corner. 94 00:04:43,520 --> 00:04:46,600 Speaker 1: And here's something that I and Chris Harris Junior, who's 95 00:04:46,600 --> 00:04:48,880 Speaker 1: gonna be thirty one years old. If you invest big 96 00:04:48,880 --> 00:04:51,599 Speaker 1: bucks in a thirty year old corner, by large, it's 97 00:04:51,600 --> 00:04:56,480 Speaker 1: gonna backfire on you. And plus like a J boyer 98 00:04:56,720 --> 00:04:59,520 Speaker 1: was going to be cut, Denver gives a fourth round 99 00:04:59,520 --> 00:05:02,640 Speaker 1: pick for and he does not have a good year. 100 00:05:03,040 --> 00:05:05,760 Speaker 1: Chris Harris Junior, who was moved outsides to the slot, 101 00:05:05,760 --> 00:05:08,520 Speaker 1: he did not have a good year. Bradley Roby had 102 00:05:08,520 --> 00:05:10,120 Speaker 1: a pretty good year when he was healthy, and he 103 00:05:10,160 --> 00:05:13,000 Speaker 1: can play inside or outside. So to me, I'd rather 104 00:05:13,040 --> 00:05:15,440 Speaker 1: have a guy that knows the system, you know him. 105 00:05:15,880 --> 00:05:19,320 Speaker 1: Maybe they could get him for thirteen instead of fifteen 106 00:05:19,440 --> 00:05:22,680 Speaker 1: or sixteen like or eighteen like the other big names 107 00:05:22,680 --> 00:05:24,920 Speaker 1: are gonna get. So that's why we don't know will 108 00:05:25,000 --> 00:05:27,600 Speaker 1: Bill go after several or will he make a big 109 00:05:27,640 --> 00:05:31,000 Speaker 1: splash with one. But we know Mark, they gotta have 110 00:05:31,080 --> 00:05:33,000 Speaker 1: a corner in free agency, and they gotta have a 111 00:05:33,080 --> 00:05:35,680 Speaker 1: corner eye the draft Byron Jones. He mentioned to him 112 00:05:35,680 --> 00:05:38,720 Speaker 1: twenty seven years old, so he compared to Chris Harris. 113 00:05:38,760 --> 00:05:41,600 Speaker 1: It's kind of like the Namdi Asama Jonathan Joseph situation, 114 00:05:41,680 --> 00:05:43,960 Speaker 1: except a little bit different because Jones is the top 115 00:05:43,960 --> 00:05:46,640 Speaker 1: guy in the market. Correct he is, but I've talked 116 00:05:46,680 --> 00:05:49,520 Speaker 1: to some cowboy people and if he is, if he was, 117 00:05:50,080 --> 00:05:52,240 Speaker 1: he wants to be the highest paid corner in history. 118 00:05:52,279 --> 00:05:54,880 Speaker 1: And if indeed he was gonna that great, why would 119 00:05:54,880 --> 00:05:58,400 Speaker 1: they let him go? Over and Mary Cooper, it's harder 120 00:05:58,400 --> 00:06:00,880 Speaker 1: to find top flight corners than it is a receiver, 121 00:06:01,040 --> 00:06:04,560 Speaker 1: especially in a draft that maybe the deepest in history 122 00:06:04,640 --> 00:06:07,880 Speaker 1: for a wide receiver, So I would keep the corner. 123 00:06:07,920 --> 00:06:10,839 Speaker 1: He doesn't have any interceptions they say as bad hends. 124 00:06:10,880 --> 00:06:14,440 Speaker 1: He's a great athlete, he's played safety, he's played corner. 125 00:06:14,480 --> 00:06:16,520 Speaker 1: But from what I understand, he wants to be the 126 00:06:16,600 --> 00:06:20,880 Speaker 1: highest paid in history. So somebody's gonna pay him that money. 127 00:06:20,920 --> 00:06:22,919 Speaker 1: There's teams out there with a whole lot more money 128 00:06:22,920 --> 00:06:26,120 Speaker 1: than the Texans have. But look at last year Levian 129 00:06:26,240 --> 00:06:30,520 Speaker 1: Bell see worth the money, nope? C J. Mosley got 130 00:06:30,560 --> 00:06:33,160 Speaker 1: the big contract from the Jets. Worth the money, nope. 131 00:06:33,520 --> 00:06:36,160 Speaker 1: I saw a thing last year. Peter King about halfway 132 00:06:36,200 --> 00:06:38,320 Speaker 1: through the season ran all the free agents who made 133 00:06:38,360 --> 00:06:41,520 Speaker 1: the most money. Is amazing how many were not worth 134 00:06:41,520 --> 00:06:44,080 Speaker 1: the money? Yeah, well, we all know what happens in 135 00:06:44,160 --> 00:06:47,680 Speaker 1: free agency. The highest bidder usually wins. I mean it's 136 00:06:47,680 --> 00:06:49,560 Speaker 1: like ninety five percent of the time it's gonna be 137 00:06:49,560 --> 00:06:52,640 Speaker 1: the highest bidder that wins that free agent. And you're right, 138 00:06:52,680 --> 00:06:54,320 Speaker 1: it doesn't always turn out to be as great as 139 00:06:54,360 --> 00:06:58,400 Speaker 1: you wanted. So corner obviously a big target if you will, 140 00:06:58,440 --> 00:07:01,160 Speaker 1: at least projected to be. Now about the running back position, John, 141 00:07:01,200 --> 00:07:03,159 Speaker 1: because we don't talk about this a whole lot Carlos 142 00:07:03,200 --> 00:07:06,000 Speaker 1: Hide a thousand yards plus. I did a breakfast for 143 00:07:06,040 --> 00:07:09,520 Speaker 1: the boy Scouts this morning. Jamie roots and he interest 144 00:07:09,560 --> 00:07:12,560 Speaker 1: Jamie boy scout. No, but I don't think he wears outfit. 145 00:07:12,720 --> 00:07:15,680 Speaker 1: But well, it was a big deal though down a 146 00:07:15,720 --> 00:07:19,320 Speaker 1: hill because yea, there it was. It was a big 147 00:07:19,360 --> 00:07:22,360 Speaker 1: deal anyway. So we were talking about free agency and 148 00:07:22,400 --> 00:07:24,560 Speaker 1: I and you know, I did say the highest bidder 149 00:07:24,560 --> 00:07:26,920 Speaker 1: tends to win the player. But but Jamie asked me, 150 00:07:27,000 --> 00:07:30,120 Speaker 1: what about fantasy prospects? I said, whoever's playing running back 151 00:07:30,120 --> 00:07:32,120 Speaker 1: for the Houston Texans, we'll get the ball a lot. 152 00:07:32,240 --> 00:07:34,560 Speaker 1: I mean, that's it. Whoever is the starting running back. 153 00:07:34,600 --> 00:07:36,080 Speaker 1: And we don't know if it's gonna be high because 154 00:07:36,080 --> 00:07:38,280 Speaker 1: he's unrestricted right now. What do you think happens there? 155 00:07:38,320 --> 00:07:42,360 Speaker 1: How does that play out? He'll be unrestricted on March eighteenth. Okay? Uh, 156 00:07:42,760 --> 00:07:46,400 Speaker 1: they made him an offer Coordinaron Wilson. It's an offer 157 00:07:46,400 --> 00:07:49,200 Speaker 1: like mark Ingram got last year from Baltimore. He better 158 00:07:49,280 --> 00:07:51,920 Speaker 1: take that. If he if he gets an offer from 159 00:07:51,920 --> 00:07:55,120 Speaker 1: like that here, he better be all over it. Otherwise 160 00:07:55,160 --> 00:07:57,320 Speaker 1: he's gonna be making about a million for some other 161 00:07:57,360 --> 00:08:00,360 Speaker 1: team and keep bouncing around like a pinball us if 162 00:08:00,400 --> 00:08:03,200 Speaker 1: he's about to turn thirty, if he hasn't already. This 163 00:08:03,280 --> 00:08:06,040 Speaker 1: is a good situation for Hyde. He and Johnson had 164 00:08:06,040 --> 00:08:08,920 Speaker 1: a really good thing going and so I expect they 165 00:08:08,960 --> 00:08:11,600 Speaker 1: will resign him. But if he thinks he's gonna get 166 00:08:11,600 --> 00:08:14,480 Speaker 1: more in that and Bill O'Brien's got somebody else he 167 00:08:14,560 --> 00:08:16,520 Speaker 1: likes out there, he's gonna get him. But I think 168 00:08:16,800 --> 00:08:19,480 Speaker 1: Hyde will be back. Darren Fells wants more money than 169 00:08:19,520 --> 00:08:21,880 Speaker 1: they've offered. What kind of market is it for a 170 00:08:21,960 --> 00:08:25,920 Speaker 1: tight end Darren's age. I don't think he should come 171 00:08:25,920 --> 00:08:28,920 Speaker 1: back here too, And I've not thought about the running 172 00:08:28,960 --> 00:08:31,520 Speaker 1: back because I've just I just believe they'll get the 173 00:08:31,600 --> 00:08:34,040 Speaker 1: high deal done. But they're not going to overspend on him. 174 00:08:34,080 --> 00:08:37,120 Speaker 1: You don't overspend on a guy his age, with his background, 175 00:08:37,600 --> 00:08:39,520 Speaker 1: you don't do that. And they already have some money 176 00:08:39,559 --> 00:08:42,920 Speaker 1: tied up in Duke, and Duke was a real nice 177 00:08:42,920 --> 00:08:46,160 Speaker 1: contributed yes his team last year, so we'll see how 178 00:08:46,240 --> 00:08:48,480 Speaker 1: that goes. Fells is interesting as well. You pointed that 179 00:08:48,520 --> 00:08:51,160 Speaker 1: out look he had that tremendous first half of the 180 00:08:51,240 --> 00:08:54,640 Speaker 1: season surprised a lot of people. I don't know how 181 00:08:54,640 --> 00:08:56,520 Speaker 1: other teams are gonna see this, you know that he 182 00:08:56,559 --> 00:08:58,559 Speaker 1: fits in here really well because he could do so 183 00:08:58,600 --> 00:09:01,199 Speaker 1: many different things. What about that position, John, This is 184 00:09:01,200 --> 00:09:03,200 Speaker 1: something you and I talked about last offseason. A great 185 00:09:03,240 --> 00:09:06,800 Speaker 1: deal Calle Wearing coming off that red shirt year. You 186 00:09:06,880 --> 00:09:10,320 Speaker 1: have Akins, you have Thomas, you might have Fells back, 187 00:09:10,360 --> 00:09:13,480 Speaker 1: you might not. How's that gonna be? Jordan Thomas was 188 00:09:13,520 --> 00:09:16,720 Speaker 1: a disappointment in his second year. After catching four touchdown 189 00:09:16,760 --> 00:09:19,520 Speaker 1: passes a rookie, I thought, man, this guy's gonna take off, 190 00:09:19,840 --> 00:09:22,000 Speaker 1: and he started off hurt on an hour, came back, 191 00:09:22,080 --> 00:09:25,080 Speaker 1: didn't do much. Aikins is not a true tight end, 192 00:09:25,120 --> 00:09:26,880 Speaker 1: but he had a good year. You assume he's gonna 193 00:09:26,960 --> 00:09:31,400 Speaker 1: keep getting better. But the wild card is wearing. Wearing 194 00:09:31,520 --> 00:09:35,920 Speaker 1: looks incredible. He had a year to learn mentally, and 195 00:09:36,760 --> 00:09:39,800 Speaker 1: the times we saw him at camp where he really 196 00:09:39,800 --> 00:09:42,559 Speaker 1: looked good. I remember that one of the practices at 197 00:09:42,559 --> 00:09:44,840 Speaker 1: Green Bay he was tearing it up down the field 198 00:09:45,200 --> 00:09:47,920 Speaker 1: and you're like wow, and then he gets hurt and 199 00:09:48,120 --> 00:09:49,880 Speaker 1: he could have come back. But they didn't need him 200 00:09:49,960 --> 00:09:52,000 Speaker 1: last year because they had plenty of tight ends. But 201 00:09:52,320 --> 00:09:54,599 Speaker 1: I would think that's not a position that needs a 202 00:09:54,720 --> 00:09:58,000 Speaker 1: dressling at all. They got two third round pigs aikins 203 00:09:58,080 --> 00:10:01,319 Speaker 1: and wearing they got fells. I assume Darren's going to 204 00:10:01,400 --> 00:10:03,680 Speaker 1: come back here at his age and knowing this system. 205 00:10:04,000 --> 00:10:06,120 Speaker 1: Don't blame him trying to get much money as he 206 00:10:06,160 --> 00:10:09,200 Speaker 1: can in his age. But it's a good fit. It's 207 00:10:09,200 --> 00:10:12,000 Speaker 1: a good scheme fit. You got watching throwing the ball 208 00:10:12,040 --> 00:10:15,199 Speaker 1: to you, and so I don't I'm not thinking really 209 00:10:15,200 --> 00:10:18,880 Speaker 1: about running back or tight head. I'm thinking about primarily 210 00:10:18,960 --> 00:10:23,679 Speaker 1: three positions, corner, interior, pass rusher, and a wide receiver. 211 00:10:23,840 --> 00:10:27,280 Speaker 1: A wide receiver because you with one of their fours, 212 00:10:27,320 --> 00:10:29,240 Speaker 1: you know they're gonna have a two three and two fours. 213 00:10:29,640 --> 00:10:32,320 Speaker 1: They could get a fourth round receiver for a guy 214 00:10:32,440 --> 00:10:35,120 Speaker 1: might go in the second round any other year because 215 00:10:35,160 --> 00:10:38,000 Speaker 1: of the depth. And wrote about this two weeks ago 216 00:10:38,040 --> 00:10:42,960 Speaker 1: about all the productive receivers taken after the first round 217 00:10:43,040 --> 00:10:45,000 Speaker 1: last year, and there could be just as many or 218 00:10:45,080 --> 00:10:48,400 Speaker 1: more this year. So I think, with Will Fuller going 219 00:10:48,440 --> 00:10:50,480 Speaker 1: in the last year of his contract, in his injury 220 00:10:50,559 --> 00:10:53,920 Speaker 1: history and still is going into the last year his contract, 221 00:10:54,400 --> 00:10:57,000 Speaker 1: you better get another one. And because you can't. After 222 00:10:57,040 --> 00:10:59,679 Speaker 1: what happened with Kikiqt this time last year, everybody was 223 00:10:59,720 --> 00:11:02,360 Speaker 1: fire up about Qt and then he didn't do squads, 224 00:11:02,440 --> 00:11:05,319 Speaker 1: so that's another need. So I feel like Mark in 225 00:11:05,360 --> 00:11:08,800 Speaker 1: the second third, in fourth round, they will come out 226 00:11:09,320 --> 00:11:12,640 Speaker 1: not sure the order, with a corner, the interior pass rusher, 227 00:11:13,040 --> 00:11:15,880 Speaker 1: and a wide receiver. This is me saying this, not 228 00:11:16,000 --> 00:11:18,439 Speaker 1: necessarily them. I don't know what they really think behind 229 00:11:18,480 --> 00:11:21,640 Speaker 1: closed doors. But with a player like ut Okay, the 230 00:11:21,720 --> 00:11:25,240 Speaker 1: rookie year had some really nice flashes. Obviously the second 231 00:11:25,240 --> 00:11:28,839 Speaker 1: season not so much. But here we go. He's a 232 00:11:28,840 --> 00:11:32,240 Speaker 1: young man, he's a professional. Let's see how he handles 233 00:11:32,280 --> 00:11:35,559 Speaker 1: this offseason and if it's here or somewhere else, I'm 234 00:11:35,559 --> 00:11:38,240 Speaker 1: not ready to write him off as a professional football player. 235 00:11:38,280 --> 00:11:41,319 Speaker 1: Can't write anybody off after two years, especially when they 236 00:11:41,360 --> 00:11:43,920 Speaker 1: flash as a rookie. He needs to have a good 237 00:11:43,920 --> 00:11:46,600 Speaker 1: off season and he needs to make sure he learns 238 00:11:46,640 --> 00:11:49,319 Speaker 1: the system and he focuses and he doesn't make mental 239 00:11:49,440 --> 00:11:53,280 Speaker 1: errors because the guy, you know, if Indianapolis like say 240 00:11:53,280 --> 00:11:55,240 Speaker 1: they could him, Nichols will be all over here. I 241 00:11:55,240 --> 00:11:58,080 Speaker 1: remember how he burned them in regular season and in 242 00:11:58,120 --> 00:12:00,920 Speaker 1: the playoffs. They probably voted him to the Pro Bowl. 243 00:12:01,000 --> 00:12:04,720 Speaker 1: So he's not going anywhere because he's got too much talent. 244 00:12:04,800 --> 00:12:07,520 Speaker 1: He's a good guy. Everybody likes him and he's in 245 00:12:07,559 --> 00:12:11,720 Speaker 1: the mix inside. That's another thing. Older guys can play 246 00:12:11,760 --> 00:12:15,120 Speaker 1: inside or outside. But I think Bill will do something 247 00:12:15,160 --> 00:12:18,560 Speaker 1: to address receiver because of Fuller and Steals, instead of 248 00:12:18,559 --> 00:12:21,360 Speaker 1: waiting till next year when their backs are against the 249 00:12:21,400 --> 00:12:26,160 Speaker 1: wall defense. John, you mentioned interior pass rush because when 250 00:12:26,200 --> 00:12:29,439 Speaker 1: you look at the guy's under contract, Scarlet Merciless, what 251 00:12:30,080 --> 00:12:33,240 Speaker 1: a mana who? They've got some passers there. Jacob Martin, 252 00:12:33,559 --> 00:12:37,120 Speaker 1: you know everyone talks about four. Yeah, yeah, I mean 253 00:12:37,320 --> 00:12:39,800 Speaker 1: there you go. Edge of four comes back in after 254 00:12:39,840 --> 00:12:43,120 Speaker 1: being hurt last year. We'll see how that goes. Everyone 255 00:12:43,160 --> 00:12:45,839 Speaker 1: talks about do they need a pass rusher? Well, look, 256 00:12:45,880 --> 00:12:47,240 Speaker 1: I don't know where they're gonna put up. I don't 257 00:12:47,240 --> 00:12:50,360 Speaker 1: know how he's gonna get reps. But it wouldn't surprise 258 00:12:50,400 --> 00:12:53,079 Speaker 1: me if they drafted somebody's capable of rushing the passer 259 00:12:53,120 --> 00:12:55,439 Speaker 1: from the edge or sign somebody. And I'm not so 260 00:12:55,520 --> 00:12:58,760 Speaker 1: much from the edge, because you know a lot of 261 00:12:58,800 --> 00:13:01,319 Speaker 1: times Romeo would have in linement on the field Watt 262 00:13:01,400 --> 00:13:05,160 Speaker 1: sometimes two in passing situations. We don't know how Anthony 263 00:13:05,200 --> 00:13:07,000 Speaker 1: Weavers going to do it, and we won't know until 264 00:13:07,000 --> 00:13:10,600 Speaker 1: they play the first regular season game. And this is 265 00:13:10,640 --> 00:13:13,080 Speaker 1: a after what we learned at the combine, this is 266 00:13:13,120 --> 00:13:18,080 Speaker 1: a good draft for interior lineman if you want to 267 00:13:18,120 --> 00:13:20,560 Speaker 1: get one after the first round. Now, I'm not talking 268 00:13:20,600 --> 00:13:23,000 Speaker 1: about a guy that's going to play every down. I'm 269 00:13:23,000 --> 00:13:25,880 Speaker 1: talking about a guy that has pass russ capability and 270 00:13:25,960 --> 00:13:27,960 Speaker 1: a guy that can play in a four man front 271 00:13:28,040 --> 00:13:31,480 Speaker 1: when you go to passing situations. And that could be 272 00:13:31,520 --> 00:13:33,840 Speaker 1: the pick in the second round. It could be the 273 00:13:34,000 --> 00:13:37,800 Speaker 1: higher rated player interior pass rush or a corner, because 274 00:13:37,840 --> 00:13:40,760 Speaker 1: you know, if you don't have guys that can consistently 275 00:13:41,200 --> 00:13:44,079 Speaker 1: put pressure on the quarterback, Dean Sanders can't cover them 276 00:13:44,400 --> 00:13:46,520 Speaker 1: and they've got to improve that. They had a tremendous 277 00:13:46,600 --> 00:13:49,439 Speaker 1: drop off. Part of it was because what had missed time. 278 00:13:49,840 --> 00:13:52,680 Speaker 1: Whitney had his best season in a long time, and 279 00:13:52,960 --> 00:13:55,680 Speaker 1: I gotta think, and I was talking to Seattle people 280 00:13:55,720 --> 00:13:59,040 Speaker 1: again about how much they like Jacob Martin and they 281 00:13:59,120 --> 00:14:01,640 Speaker 1: heated to part with him. And you gotta think his 282 00:14:01,800 --> 00:14:04,559 Speaker 1: second year in this system, third year in the NFL, 283 00:14:05,120 --> 00:14:07,160 Speaker 1: that he's going to be a better pass russer. He's 284 00:14:07,200 --> 00:14:09,360 Speaker 1: not a full down player because he's too light in 285 00:14:09,400 --> 00:14:12,439 Speaker 1: the butt, but he's the fastest they've got out there, 286 00:14:12,920 --> 00:14:15,640 Speaker 1: and they liked Edge for coming off his rookie year 287 00:14:15,640 --> 00:14:17,600 Speaker 1: and then he blew out as Achilles and he's healthy. 288 00:14:17,600 --> 00:14:21,040 Speaker 1: He's been healthy, and he knows all the mental stuff. 289 00:14:21,080 --> 00:14:22,760 Speaker 1: He went to all the practices, he went to all 290 00:14:22,800 --> 00:14:25,880 Speaker 1: the meetings. So he's only behind physically, not mentally. So 291 00:14:26,040 --> 00:14:30,840 Speaker 1: there's another one Omity who Martin and Oji for those 292 00:14:30,960 --> 00:14:36,240 Speaker 1: guys should make him sick. Significant improvement next season. John 293 00:14:36,320 --> 00:14:39,360 Speaker 1: McClean stays with us the General from the Houston Chronicle 294 00:14:39,520 --> 00:14:43,920 Speaker 1: and more on the Texans, the AFC South temperature, the 295 00:14:44,080 --> 00:14:47,120 Speaker 1: quarterback situation around the league. This is the story of 296 00:14:47,200 --> 00:14:49,640 Speaker 1: the off season. Really, it's all coming up and then 297 00:14:49,720 --> 00:14:52,960 Speaker 1: some on Texans Radio. John McClean is with us Thursday night, 298 00:14:53,080 --> 00:14:55,960 Speaker 1: Texans All Access here from the Hunday Texans Radio studio. 299 00:14:56,080 --> 00:15:00,240 Speaker 1: Mark Vandermayer with you. Now, let's do this Jo. We 300 00:15:00,320 --> 00:15:02,000 Speaker 1: talked about it a bit last week, but being at 301 00:15:02,040 --> 00:15:06,160 Speaker 1: the combine and everybody talking about Deshaun Watson, when they 302 00:15:06,200 --> 00:15:07,920 Speaker 1: know you're with the Texans, they want to talk about 303 00:15:07,920 --> 00:15:10,800 Speaker 1: de Shaun Watson, and when you look around the AFC South. 304 00:15:10,840 --> 00:15:13,200 Speaker 1: I wrote about this on Houston Texans dot Com yesterday. 305 00:15:13,360 --> 00:15:15,840 Speaker 1: It's the only team that really has full transparency as 306 00:15:15,880 --> 00:15:17,680 Speaker 1: to who the starter is going to be an opening day. 307 00:15:17,800 --> 00:15:20,640 Speaker 1: Every other team has a question mark at this time 308 00:15:20,800 --> 00:15:24,600 Speaker 1: of year at that position going into twenty twenty, great 309 00:15:24,640 --> 00:15:27,440 Speaker 1: minds think alike. I wrote about that last week because 310 00:15:27,480 --> 00:15:29,320 Speaker 1: it is I swear I didn't steal it from here. 311 00:15:29,360 --> 00:15:31,920 Speaker 1: It's all right, and uh, I know you didn't, and 312 00:15:32,840 --> 00:15:35,480 Speaker 1: thank you. And it's because it's important. You know, if 313 00:15:35,480 --> 00:15:38,080 Speaker 1: you think about Tennessee, there's all to talk about Brady 314 00:15:38,200 --> 00:15:41,400 Speaker 1: while they're trying to resign Tannehill. I can't imagine Ryan 315 00:15:41,480 --> 00:15:44,400 Speaker 1: Tannehill is going to price himself out of the Titans 316 00:15:44,520 --> 00:15:49,240 Speaker 1: market and then uh, Jacksonville, they're talking about trading falls. Well, 317 00:15:49,280 --> 00:15:51,240 Speaker 1: how much of his contract are they gonna have to 318 00:15:51,320 --> 00:15:54,440 Speaker 1: pick up to trade him because they Doug Morone wants 319 00:15:54,480 --> 00:15:57,760 Speaker 1: to go with the mustache and and and an Indy. 320 00:15:58,440 --> 00:16:01,480 Speaker 1: Jacoby Burzad had his chis he didn't do it. Injuries 321 00:16:01,520 --> 00:16:04,760 Speaker 1: played a factor, but it just seems such a natural 322 00:16:04,840 --> 00:16:07,360 Speaker 1: that Philip Rivers would go there to be reunited with 323 00:16:07,520 --> 00:16:11,680 Speaker 1: Frank Reich, his quarterback coach at San Diego for three years, 324 00:16:12,000 --> 00:16:15,520 Speaker 1: and Nick Serriani, the offensive coordinator for Reich, who was 325 00:16:15,560 --> 00:16:18,440 Speaker 1: in San Diego for five years. It just seems a 326 00:16:18,640 --> 00:16:21,120 Speaker 1: natural thing for Rivers to go there. And if I'm Brady, 327 00:16:21,160 --> 00:16:23,680 Speaker 1: I'd want to go there because the offensive line and 328 00:16:23,880 --> 00:16:29,560 Speaker 1: so all of them have issues. Will will the will 329 00:16:29,640 --> 00:16:33,040 Speaker 1: the coach take a quarterback? You know, they pick high 330 00:16:33,160 --> 00:16:35,680 Speaker 1: enough where they could trade up and get a quarterback 331 00:16:35,840 --> 00:16:38,280 Speaker 1: or get a guy like Jordan Love. Would they have 332 00:16:38,480 --> 00:16:42,280 Speaker 1: Brisette Rivers and a young guy? You know, if you 333 00:16:42,480 --> 00:16:44,840 Speaker 1: if you signed Tom Brady and Philip Rivers, you better 334 00:16:44,920 --> 00:16:48,640 Speaker 1: have somebody ready in a couple of years, especially with Brady, 335 00:16:49,160 --> 00:16:51,480 Speaker 1: and I hear I keep. I was listening to Day 336 00:16:51,560 --> 00:16:55,160 Speaker 1: on NFL radio talking about how Brady wants a long 337 00:16:55,320 --> 00:16:57,520 Speaker 1: term contract. I said, well, it's a long term contract 338 00:16:57,560 --> 00:17:00,200 Speaker 1: two years for him. Guy's gonna be forty three in 339 00:17:00,320 --> 00:17:06,280 Speaker 1: augustin and watching all these people scrambling, predicting, trying to 340 00:17:06,400 --> 00:17:09,919 Speaker 1: guess who's whom, and thinking, man, I'm glad the Texans 341 00:17:09,960 --> 00:17:12,719 Speaker 1: don't have to worry about that anymore. Right, Well, if 342 00:17:12,760 --> 00:17:15,880 Speaker 1: you're a Patriots fan, how do you feel right now 343 00:17:16,440 --> 00:17:19,359 Speaker 1: about the situation? Well, Patriot fans and I talk to 344 00:17:19,440 --> 00:17:22,720 Speaker 1: people there. If Brady leaves, they'll believe it's because he's 345 00:17:22,720 --> 00:17:26,080 Speaker 1: tired of playing with Belichick and he's tired of having 346 00:17:26,119 --> 00:17:28,000 Speaker 1: an offense that doesn't have a lot of talent, and 347 00:17:28,119 --> 00:17:31,520 Speaker 1: they didn't and it's so people won't blame him, you know, 348 00:17:31,640 --> 00:17:33,840 Speaker 1: in their minds, he'll always be a Patriot. So many 349 00:17:33,920 --> 00:17:36,520 Speaker 1: great players left their team at them end of their 350 00:17:36,560 --> 00:17:39,600 Speaker 1: career and what's somewhere else for more money. The problem 351 00:17:39,760 --> 00:17:42,359 Speaker 1: is Belichick is you have to commit to him beyond 352 00:17:42,440 --> 00:17:46,399 Speaker 1: one year. Maybe he will, but until that domino falls, 353 00:17:46,520 --> 00:17:49,359 Speaker 1: the others can't fall as well. So he is in 354 00:17:49,520 --> 00:17:53,920 Speaker 1: control basically of everything in the quarterback market unless you're 355 00:17:53,960 --> 00:17:57,200 Speaker 1: a team pick at high like Cincinnati or Miami knows 356 00:17:57,280 --> 00:17:59,120 Speaker 1: they're not going to sign him. To me, there's only 357 00:17:59,680 --> 00:18:02,320 Speaker 1: every He's trying to push Brady to San Francisco, and 358 00:18:02,400 --> 00:18:06,080 Speaker 1: San Francisco is gonna trade Garoppolo back to Belichick, and 359 00:18:06,160 --> 00:18:09,600 Speaker 1: maybe that'll happen, but it's so unfair Garoppolo he missed 360 00:18:09,640 --> 00:18:14,000 Speaker 1: twenty eighteen with a torn acl He comes back this season, 361 00:18:14,240 --> 00:18:16,720 Speaker 1: leads him to the super Bowl. Now people are ready 362 00:18:16,760 --> 00:18:19,360 Speaker 1: to give up on him. People on Tennessee or dying 363 00:18:19,440 --> 00:18:21,680 Speaker 1: to get Brady over Tanny Hill. Last I look, Teddy 364 00:18:21,720 --> 00:18:26,040 Speaker 1: Hill beat Brady in the playoffs in Foxborough and so 365 00:18:26,320 --> 00:18:28,840 Speaker 1: I and to me, the Raiders are still a natural 366 00:18:28,960 --> 00:18:30,720 Speaker 1: for him. He's got a line, he's got a good 367 00:18:30,800 --> 00:18:33,440 Speaker 1: running game, good tight end. They could use that top 368 00:18:33,520 --> 00:18:37,400 Speaker 1: pick on somebody like either Judy or Lamb or Rugs 369 00:18:37,800 --> 00:18:41,040 Speaker 1: to give him a great receiver. And it just seems 370 00:18:41,080 --> 00:18:43,800 Speaker 1: a natural and puts him closer to his family and 371 00:18:43,920 --> 00:18:49,040 Speaker 1: San Mateo. And but it's fascinating. It's unprecedented what we've 372 00:18:49,080 --> 00:18:51,240 Speaker 1: seen in the quarterback market because more are going to 373 00:18:51,280 --> 00:18:54,800 Speaker 1: be available, possibly Cam Newton, possibly Derek Carr. Guy like 374 00:18:54,920 --> 00:18:57,800 Speaker 1: Teddy Bridgewater went five and old last year. In an 375 00:18:57,920 --> 00:19:01,120 Speaker 1: ordinary year, he would be one there talking about nobody's 376 00:19:01,160 --> 00:19:04,320 Speaker 1: talking about him. I can't believe. I'm with you on Garoppolo. 377 00:19:04,520 --> 00:19:08,080 Speaker 1: I cannot believe the negativity around him. And I'm not 378 00:19:08,320 --> 00:19:11,520 Speaker 1: a Jimmy g guy necessarily, But here you go. You 379 00:19:11,600 --> 00:19:13,440 Speaker 1: go to the Super Bowl and I know you don't 380 00:19:13,520 --> 00:19:16,320 Speaker 1: execute down the stretch, but hey, it happens to a 381 00:19:16,359 --> 00:19:18,680 Speaker 1: lot of quarterbacks. A lot of good quarterbacks have lost 382 00:19:18,800 --> 00:19:21,080 Speaker 1: Super Bowls. A lot of Hall of famers have lost 383 00:19:21,119 --> 00:19:24,879 Speaker 1: super Bowls. Saddle up given another shot. If you're the 384 00:19:24,920 --> 00:19:27,199 Speaker 1: forty nine ers, people are saying, well, at the end 385 00:19:27,240 --> 00:19:29,560 Speaker 1: of that game, Brady would have made those throws. I said, 386 00:19:29,600 --> 00:19:32,360 Speaker 1: Brady couldn't make throws to beat the Titans at home. Yeah, 387 00:19:32,520 --> 00:19:35,040 Speaker 1: I know, well at this stage of his life, Yes, 388 00:19:35,160 --> 00:19:39,080 Speaker 1: I think people get used to looking at the package, okay, 389 00:19:39,240 --> 00:19:43,879 Speaker 1: the bottle, the gift wrapping around that quarterback, and they 390 00:19:43,960 --> 00:19:46,480 Speaker 1: think of him ten fifteen years ago. He is a 391 00:19:46,640 --> 00:19:49,320 Speaker 1: forty three year old quarterback when the season begins, and 392 00:19:49,440 --> 00:19:51,800 Speaker 1: there's no way you could expect this to go on forever. 393 00:19:52,000 --> 00:19:54,720 Speaker 1: And I'm of the thinking that at any moment it 394 00:19:54,760 --> 00:19:56,600 Speaker 1: could go. You could make a deal for Brady and 395 00:19:57,040 --> 00:19:58,720 Speaker 1: it could start off well, then all of a sudden, 396 00:19:58,720 --> 00:20:01,359 Speaker 1: it starts to trump. Also, if you have Brady, the 397 00:20:01,440 --> 00:20:03,960 Speaker 1: whole offense has to revolve around him. It's like he 398 00:20:04,040 --> 00:20:06,200 Speaker 1: could never go to Tampa and play for Bruce Arians 399 00:20:06,240 --> 00:20:09,200 Speaker 1: who sends out all his receivers and quarterback takes a beating. 400 00:20:09,480 --> 00:20:12,080 Speaker 1: He couldn't go to the Chargers or offensive lines awful. 401 00:20:12,680 --> 00:20:15,280 Speaker 1: And there's only a few teams to me that he 402 00:20:15,359 --> 00:20:18,080 Speaker 1: could go to. And he has a system in New 403 00:20:18,160 --> 00:20:23,160 Speaker 1: England with Josh McDaniels that he basically invented for him, 404 00:20:23,640 --> 00:20:26,560 Speaker 1: and it has to be all about timing and short 405 00:20:26,640 --> 00:20:30,480 Speaker 1: to intermediate routes and recognition by him not throwing the 406 00:20:30,560 --> 00:20:34,680 Speaker 1: ball down the field. And if you're willing to make 407 00:20:34,760 --> 00:20:38,040 Speaker 1: your offense that maybe Kyle Shanahan is. But in two years, 408 00:20:38,119 --> 00:20:41,320 Speaker 1: what do you do when he's done? And then, boy, 409 00:20:41,680 --> 00:20:45,240 Speaker 1: I need another quarterback? Bridgewater, what do you think. I 410 00:20:45,320 --> 00:20:48,639 Speaker 1: don't have a clue. I think Jamis Winston's going to 411 00:20:48,680 --> 00:20:51,480 Speaker 1: be out there unless they franchise him one year to 412 00:20:51,560 --> 00:20:54,880 Speaker 1: see if he can get over the interceptions. I think 413 00:20:55,000 --> 00:21:00,680 Speaker 1: Bridgewater Winston if he's available, Mariota and Newton, Dalton, all 414 00:21:00,720 --> 00:21:03,159 Speaker 1: those guys. There's not a lot of jobs that are 415 00:21:03,200 --> 00:21:05,760 Speaker 1: open where they can come and be guaranteed of getting 416 00:21:06,240 --> 00:21:09,879 Speaker 1: the job, like in Carolina. If Carolina lets him go 417 00:21:10,920 --> 00:21:14,120 Speaker 1: and they are right out outside and they don't take 418 00:21:14,160 --> 00:21:17,879 Speaker 1: a quarterback early, they need somebody like Teddy Bridgewater to 419 00:21:18,040 --> 00:21:20,439 Speaker 1: commit to right it's and a lot of them are 420 00:21:20,480 --> 00:21:22,159 Speaker 1: gonna to do like Tanny Hill did last year. He 421 00:21:22,200 --> 00:21:26,320 Speaker 1: gets traded to Tennessee one year contract. You hope you 422 00:21:26,400 --> 00:21:28,119 Speaker 1: get a chance and you do well. That's what a 423 00:21:28,200 --> 00:21:29,600 Speaker 1: lot of these guys are gonna have to do and 424 00:21:29,680 --> 00:21:32,119 Speaker 1: of course Patriot's gotta have somebody. I don't know if 425 00:21:32,119 --> 00:21:34,560 Speaker 1: they're gonna go with Jared Steamy through four passes as 426 00:21:34,600 --> 00:21:37,640 Speaker 1: a rookie. It seems to me they're gonna want somebody 427 00:21:37,720 --> 00:21:41,040 Speaker 1: to come in there with a South stemp style similar 428 00:21:41,040 --> 00:21:43,880 Speaker 1: to Brady. And people are talking about Andy Dalton. Yeah, 429 00:21:43,920 --> 00:21:45,960 Speaker 1: I was gonna ask you about that, those whispers or 430 00:21:46,040 --> 00:21:49,560 Speaker 1: whatever they are about Andy Dalton going to New England. Yeah, 431 00:21:49,680 --> 00:21:53,639 Speaker 1: they would trade him. And you know, a guy like 432 00:21:53,800 --> 00:21:56,720 Speaker 1: Marcus Mariota, if he played for Josh McDaniels, would he 433 00:21:56,840 --> 00:21:59,240 Speaker 1: be better, But he has injury issues and he was 434 00:21:59,320 --> 00:22:03,520 Speaker 1: awful last year. If I could see Teddy Bridgewater going 435 00:22:03,640 --> 00:22:06,159 Speaker 1: up there, yeah, and then committing to him for a 436 00:22:06,240 --> 00:22:09,359 Speaker 1: season or two, but they still need another quarterback. It 437 00:22:09,480 --> 00:22:13,520 Speaker 1: really hurt Mariota that Tannehill played well. Right, If Tannehill 438 00:22:13,600 --> 00:22:15,720 Speaker 1: doesn't play well, and maybe it's just the Titans, and 439 00:22:15,800 --> 00:22:18,320 Speaker 1: maybe Mariota would be better somewhere else, but the fact 440 00:22:18,400 --> 00:22:21,480 Speaker 1: that with the same cast of characters Tannehill did that 441 00:22:22,119 --> 00:22:24,400 Speaker 1: makes Mariota look that much worse. And that's why he's 442 00:22:24,400 --> 00:22:26,800 Speaker 1: gonna be gone. Okay, what about Chicago? What are you 443 00:22:26,920 --> 00:22:30,200 Speaker 1: thinking there? Because look it's here three year four now, 444 00:22:30,680 --> 00:22:34,320 Speaker 1: and you don't have to stay with it forever with Trubisky, 445 00:22:34,640 --> 00:22:37,200 Speaker 1: So what do you think they want to do? Trubisky? 446 00:22:37,280 --> 00:22:38,720 Speaker 1: It looks like it is going to be in a 447 00:22:38,800 --> 00:22:42,560 Speaker 1: situation like Mariota was last year. Remember Mariota won a 448 00:22:42,600 --> 00:22:45,879 Speaker 1: playoff game at Kansas City and then came back and 449 00:22:46,040 --> 00:22:50,040 Speaker 1: didn't take off from there and have his career skyrocket. 450 00:22:50,560 --> 00:22:54,920 Speaker 1: So Trubisky they think in Dalton's a possibility they would 451 00:22:54,960 --> 00:22:57,840 Speaker 1: bring in a veteran quarterback there like they did with 452 00:22:57,960 --> 00:23:00,199 Speaker 1: Tannehill last year, and they'd be up to trubisk key 453 00:23:00,240 --> 00:23:02,320 Speaker 1: to stay healthy and play well and keep the job. 454 00:23:02,800 --> 00:23:04,159 Speaker 1: All Right, John, I want to talk to you a 455 00:23:04,200 --> 00:23:06,679 Speaker 1: little bit about how guys something Okay, who's the Texans 456 00:23:06,800 --> 00:23:09,240 Speaker 1: backup quarterback going to be? Well, it's a great question, 457 00:23:09,359 --> 00:23:11,760 Speaker 1: you know, would you take Mariota here? Would they like that? 458 00:23:12,080 --> 00:23:16,399 Speaker 1: Or would you do you trust your team to X 459 00:23:16,560 --> 00:23:19,680 Speaker 1: player x if Watson and god forbid, knock wood, knock 460 00:23:19,760 --> 00:23:22,960 Speaker 1: whatever you can goes down? Who do you trust to 461 00:23:23,119 --> 00:23:25,200 Speaker 1: take your team on a run to keep it going? 462 00:23:25,520 --> 00:23:28,639 Speaker 1: And I think that's a really complex question. Really, I 463 00:23:28,960 --> 00:23:31,440 Speaker 1: clearly they like mccaren and he looked pretty good in 464 00:23:31,520 --> 00:23:35,280 Speaker 1: that last game at times very limited action. Obviously in 465 00:23:35,320 --> 00:23:37,720 Speaker 1: the off season, no preseason to speak of after the 466 00:23:37,800 --> 00:23:41,480 Speaker 1: injury in Cream Bay in practice, Maybe he comes back. 467 00:23:41,600 --> 00:23:44,080 Speaker 1: Maybe it's somebody else, one of these other attractive names 468 00:23:44,119 --> 00:23:47,320 Speaker 1: out there. Problem is if they come here seeing that 469 00:23:47,680 --> 00:23:51,000 Speaker 1: Watson plays every game, they're not coming here with a 470 00:23:51,119 --> 00:23:55,040 Speaker 1: chance to start. So you can't have a guy who's 471 00:23:55,200 --> 00:23:58,080 Speaker 1: hoping for a chance to start coming to the Texans. 472 00:23:58,160 --> 00:24:02,119 Speaker 1: And if i'm mccaren, I'm Sagan Bill O'Brien to resign me. 473 00:24:02,720 --> 00:24:05,199 Speaker 1: The guy i'd love to see back here's Case Keenham. 474 00:24:05,560 --> 00:24:07,800 Speaker 1: You know we're not even talking about Case, but Case 475 00:24:07,920 --> 00:24:10,960 Speaker 1: everywhere he goes, he gets to play opening day starter, 476 00:24:11,240 --> 00:24:13,320 Speaker 1: and if he came here, he's not going to get 477 00:24:13,359 --> 00:24:16,440 Speaker 1: a chance to play, unless, of course, Watson gets hurt. 478 00:24:16,880 --> 00:24:19,920 Speaker 1: So Mariota, would he come here to me come into 479 00:24:19,960 --> 00:24:22,440 Speaker 1: the Texas as a guy who knows he's a career 480 00:24:22,520 --> 00:24:24,520 Speaker 1: backup and he's not going to be a starter again, 481 00:24:25,000 --> 00:24:27,880 Speaker 1: like McCarron, a guy that I would love to see 482 00:24:27,920 --> 00:24:30,800 Speaker 1: them sign p J. Walker, give him a chance. The 483 00:24:30,920 --> 00:24:33,560 Speaker 1: roughnext quarterback is going to have multiple offers. I'm not 484 00:24:33,600 --> 00:24:36,200 Speaker 1: talking about as a true backup and signed him bring 485 00:24:36,320 --> 00:24:38,320 Speaker 1: him here. I think he'll end up in Carolina with 486 00:24:38,800 --> 00:24:41,199 Speaker 1: man rule because he coached him three years at Temple. 487 00:24:41,400 --> 00:24:43,320 Speaker 1: I saw him make a play last week that looked 488 00:24:43,359 --> 00:24:46,920 Speaker 1: a little Watson Lake. I mean, he does have some moxie. 489 00:24:46,960 --> 00:24:49,439 Speaker 1: He's got some playmaking abilities. I got to wile him 490 00:24:49,480 --> 00:24:52,719 Speaker 1: on him today in a chronicle about well, it's more 491 00:24:52,720 --> 00:24:55,920 Speaker 1: about their defense playing so well, but Walker at his 492 00:24:56,040 --> 00:24:59,920 Speaker 1: receiver Cam Phillips have looked really good. June Jones, who's 493 00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:02,119 Speaker 1: been a head coach twice in the NFL, believes that 494 00:25:02,200 --> 00:25:05,000 Speaker 1: ten to fifteen of his players will get opportunities to 495 00:25:05,119 --> 00:25:08,359 Speaker 1: play in the NFL, with Walker being the one that 496 00:25:08,600 --> 00:25:11,680 Speaker 1: is the most fascinating. And he's going somewhere and I 497 00:25:11,800 --> 00:25:15,080 Speaker 1: think he and he's like a poor man's watching. He 498 00:25:15,160 --> 00:25:18,359 Speaker 1: just has a similar style. He's mobile, he makes plays 499 00:25:18,400 --> 00:25:20,840 Speaker 1: on the fly, and he gets rid of the ball 500 00:25:21,119 --> 00:25:23,720 Speaker 1: so quick. Jen said, I'd like to take credit for that, 501 00:25:24,119 --> 00:25:26,480 Speaker 1: and we do emphasize getting the ball out, but he 502 00:25:26,600 --> 00:25:28,440 Speaker 1: just gets rid of it quick. He's only been sacked 503 00:25:28,520 --> 00:25:31,000 Speaker 1: four times in four games. But I think it'd be 504 00:25:31,119 --> 00:25:33,280 Speaker 1: great to have PJ. Walker come over here and back 505 00:25:33,359 --> 00:25:36,280 Speaker 1: up to Seaun Watson. You were saying about Aji McCarron 506 00:25:36,400 --> 00:25:39,360 Speaker 1: that if you were him, you'd begging Bill O'Brien bad 507 00:25:39,480 --> 00:25:41,520 Speaker 1: year to be a free agent quarter Well, oh, I see, 508 00:25:41,560 --> 00:25:43,560 Speaker 1: that's why just the one year deal and let the 509 00:25:43,640 --> 00:25:46,680 Speaker 1: dust settle and take. With all the quarterbacks available, there's 510 00:25:46,680 --> 00:25:48,840 Speaker 1: not going to be a market for Aj. So he 511 00:25:48,920 --> 00:25:51,520 Speaker 1: should come back here where he knows everybody. I'm guessing 512 00:25:51,600 --> 00:25:54,879 Speaker 1: he liked it here, the coaches, and and Tim Kelly's 513 00:25:54,920 --> 00:25:57,439 Speaker 1: now the new quarterbacks coach, and TJ. Yates is going 514 00:25:57,480 --> 00:26:01,200 Speaker 1: to be the assistant quarterback coach. It just seems like 515 00:26:01,320 --> 00:26:03,479 Speaker 1: a really good deal for him because he's not going 516 00:26:03,520 --> 00:26:06,040 Speaker 1: to get an opportunity to start somewhere else right. I 517 00:26:06,080 --> 00:26:07,720 Speaker 1: don't know if anybody would bring him in as a 518 00:26:08,080 --> 00:26:11,600 Speaker 1: potential starter. Maybe somebody this year. Yeah, and you know, 519 00:26:11,720 --> 00:26:14,359 Speaker 1: even in another year at this point in his career 520 00:26:14,480 --> 00:26:17,040 Speaker 1: because the injury history and everything. But one of those 521 00:26:17,080 --> 00:26:21,280 Speaker 1: situations where should the starter falter, then maybe he gets 522 00:26:21,280 --> 00:26:24,760 Speaker 1: an opportunity. So, like Clint Eastwood said in one of 523 00:26:24,800 --> 00:26:28,000 Speaker 1: the Dirty Harry Moves, man's got to know his limitations. 524 00:26:28,600 --> 00:26:30,960 Speaker 1: Oh man, he's got so many good lines. Think about 525 00:26:31,000 --> 00:26:34,440 Speaker 1: this with Clint, you know, go ahead, make my day? Right? 526 00:26:34,920 --> 00:26:37,400 Speaker 1: He had one later in his career with the Get 527 00:26:37,440 --> 00:26:39,680 Speaker 1: Off My Lawn, which is just such a part of 528 00:26:40,080 --> 00:26:43,800 Speaker 1: pop culture, right, Dulia punk with Dirty Harry. Now that's 529 00:26:43,840 --> 00:26:45,920 Speaker 1: so dated now A lot of the younger listeners don't 530 00:26:46,000 --> 00:26:48,679 Speaker 1: know that. But man, he's got so many great lines 531 00:26:48,800 --> 00:26:51,359 Speaker 1: in his movies. I mean, go ahead and make my day, 532 00:26:51,400 --> 00:26:53,879 Speaker 1: I think is probably the most famous one. And that 533 00:26:54,040 --> 00:26:56,440 Speaker 1: was from maybe the third Dirty Harry movie. I think 534 00:26:56,720 --> 00:26:59,640 Speaker 1: I can't remember which. The first one was the best 535 00:26:59,640 --> 00:27:02,840 Speaker 1: about it was. I would encourage anybody listen if you 536 00:27:02,920 --> 00:27:05,919 Speaker 1: hadn't seen Clint Eastwood and Dirty Harry from nineteen seventy 537 00:27:05,960 --> 00:27:10,199 Speaker 1: one running around in Bell Bottoms in San Francisco, blowing 538 00:27:10,680 --> 00:27:14,240 Speaker 1: people away with his three fifty seven magnezie in it. 539 00:27:14,359 --> 00:27:17,760 Speaker 1: Harvey Cut, why do I imagine him that the bad 540 00:27:17,840 --> 00:27:20,800 Speaker 1: guys not Harvey Cut, Tilly just look like Harvey. Okay, sorry, 541 00:27:21,400 --> 00:27:25,120 Speaker 1: but back then yet all these movies like that. Charles Bronson, 542 00:27:25,160 --> 00:27:29,440 Speaker 1: who no one remembers, was a huge Wish action star 543 00:27:29,800 --> 00:27:33,800 Speaker 1: death Wish death wish um mister McIntosh, things they could 544 00:27:33,840 --> 00:27:37,200 Speaker 1: get away with the stone that they could not get 545 00:27:37,280 --> 00:27:39,879 Speaker 1: away with. No, it's it's crazy. I mean that that 546 00:27:40,040 --> 00:27:42,840 Speaker 1: those movies were rough. A couple of other things here 547 00:27:43,119 --> 00:27:46,080 Speaker 1: XFL rules that may or may not get adopted. We've 548 00:27:46,119 --> 00:27:48,520 Speaker 1: talked about this briefly, but Johnny and I were debating 549 00:27:48,560 --> 00:27:51,080 Speaker 1: one earlier. I'll tell you what I'd like to see. 550 00:27:51,560 --> 00:27:53,399 Speaker 1: Maybe I want to talk to Bill O'Brien about this. 551 00:27:53,520 --> 00:27:56,879 Speaker 1: The twenty five second play clock is intriguing to me. 552 00:27:57,280 --> 00:27:59,920 Speaker 1: It hasn't been a big issue like June Jones play 553 00:28:00,119 --> 00:28:02,240 Speaker 1: in Canada the last two years, so it wasn't a 554 00:28:02,280 --> 00:28:05,120 Speaker 1: big deal for him. But you don't see delays a game. 555 00:28:05,200 --> 00:28:07,119 Speaker 1: You just get up to the line of scrimmage and go. 556 00:28:08,000 --> 00:28:12,000 Speaker 1: And what I like about the XFL the best. And 557 00:28:12,080 --> 00:28:14,880 Speaker 1: I'm going to my first game on Saturday to see 558 00:28:14,960 --> 00:28:17,960 Speaker 1: the Roughnecks. Carol arn't going and I watched them on 559 00:28:18,080 --> 00:28:20,760 Speaker 1: TV the last time. And it's gonna be hard to 560 00:28:20,880 --> 00:28:23,360 Speaker 1: like a more in person because you unless they gave 561 00:28:23,440 --> 00:28:26,320 Speaker 1: you an earpiece where you could hear the replay official 562 00:28:26,480 --> 00:28:29,760 Speaker 1: talking to the to the on field the referee about 563 00:28:30,000 --> 00:28:32,760 Speaker 1: about replay, and then if you can't hear the coaches 564 00:28:32,840 --> 00:28:35,520 Speaker 1: calling plays when you're in the stands. But I think 565 00:28:35,560 --> 00:28:38,200 Speaker 1: it's gonna be a lot of fun. But the one 566 00:28:38,280 --> 00:28:40,440 Speaker 1: day would not adopt and I like it a lot 567 00:28:41,080 --> 00:28:43,960 Speaker 1: is the extra point. P J. Walker ran in a 568 00:28:44,120 --> 00:28:49,360 Speaker 1: ten yard three point conversion against Dallas and a lot 569 00:28:49,440 --> 00:28:51,760 Speaker 1: of them they do not make the conversion from the 570 00:28:51,840 --> 00:28:55,680 Speaker 1: two yard line. But it's fascinating. But it makes a 571 00:28:55,800 --> 00:28:58,320 Speaker 1: coach think even more. And they got enough on their 572 00:28:58,360 --> 00:29:03,000 Speaker 1: plate when it's not the extra point. And the kickoff 573 00:29:03,040 --> 00:29:06,760 Speaker 1: and the return rules have not led to the big 574 00:29:06,880 --> 00:29:10,200 Speaker 1: kickoff and punt returns like they thought they would, and 575 00:29:10,440 --> 00:29:12,640 Speaker 1: especially a punt you're supposed to catch the ball to 576 00:29:12,720 --> 00:29:16,120 Speaker 1: have about a ten yard head start. But they're not 577 00:29:16,640 --> 00:29:20,760 Speaker 1: burning up the league with the returns. But I do 578 00:29:20,960 --> 00:29:23,280 Speaker 1: like the way they're lining up for kickoffs that lessens 579 00:29:23,360 --> 00:29:27,600 Speaker 1: the collisions. And the twenty five second rule is fantastic 580 00:29:27,720 --> 00:29:30,960 Speaker 1: because the games are over quicker, Yeah they are, but 581 00:29:31,080 --> 00:29:33,080 Speaker 1: it also changes you're thinking at the end of the 582 00:29:33,200 --> 00:29:37,120 Speaker 1: game when you really can't take a knee as as 583 00:29:37,200 --> 00:29:38,880 Speaker 1: you can in the NFL two minutes to go in 584 00:29:38,960 --> 00:29:41,240 Speaker 1: the NFL with the first down, the game's over. In 585 00:29:41,360 --> 00:29:44,400 Speaker 1: the XFL, it's not over yet. You still have more 586 00:29:44,440 --> 00:29:46,880 Speaker 1: work to do, so I find that kind of interesting. Remember, 587 00:29:47,080 --> 00:29:49,960 Speaker 1: the owners don't care what the coaches want. The owners 588 00:29:50,000 --> 00:29:52,160 Speaker 1: are going to do what the owners want. Last year, 589 00:29:52,200 --> 00:29:54,240 Speaker 1: the coaches wanted to eye in the sky, which I 590 00:29:54,360 --> 00:29:59,160 Speaker 1: still like. Official in the booth watching the replays and 591 00:29:59,280 --> 00:30:02,120 Speaker 1: signaling down immediately, the red free throw the flag, pick 592 00:30:02,200 --> 00:30:05,280 Speaker 1: the flag up. But I don't think that's gonna pass. 593 00:30:05,400 --> 00:30:09,000 Speaker 1: But you get used to these rules at first. I'm like, 594 00:30:09,160 --> 00:30:11,760 Speaker 1: what Oliver Luck, the commissioner, told me something they didn't 595 00:30:11,800 --> 00:30:15,040 Speaker 1: adopt and they were wild and they might change that 596 00:30:15,160 --> 00:30:17,920 Speaker 1: in their second year. But it was It's a lot 597 00:30:17,960 --> 00:30:20,720 Speaker 1: of fun watching them play because some of it's different. 598 00:30:20,920 --> 00:30:23,240 Speaker 1: It's kind of like watching the CFL for the first time. 599 00:30:23,280 --> 00:30:27,320 Speaker 1: And you know the two passes in the XFL that 600 00:30:27,520 --> 00:30:30,520 Speaker 1: you can have two forward passes as long as one's 601 00:30:30,560 --> 00:30:33,120 Speaker 1: behind the line of scrimmage. It's kind of like you 602 00:30:33,280 --> 00:30:36,360 Speaker 1: just barely missed on it. It's a lateral or an 603 00:30:36,400 --> 00:30:39,360 Speaker 1: illegal forward passed barely in the NFL, and they don't 604 00:30:39,400 --> 00:30:42,800 Speaker 1: think twice about it, right, that one is not that crazy. 605 00:30:42,960 --> 00:30:45,800 Speaker 1: I still don't like the CFL. I don't like the CEF. 606 00:30:46,080 --> 00:30:48,480 Speaker 1: Yes where they're all running around at the same time, 607 00:30:48,600 --> 00:30:51,000 Speaker 1: all going the line of scrimmage. Terrible. It's almost like 608 00:30:51,120 --> 00:30:53,880 Speaker 1: some video game. Yeah, it's hard to follow for an 609 00:30:53,880 --> 00:30:56,880 Speaker 1: American football fan. That was always my big bugaboo about 610 00:30:56,920 --> 00:30:59,440 Speaker 1: that and the Arena Football League. John one more for 611 00:30:59,600 --> 00:31:02,520 Speaker 1: you in this segment. What about passive interference? What's going 612 00:31:02,560 --> 00:31:05,440 Speaker 1: to happen at the owners meetings next month or this month? 613 00:31:05,560 --> 00:31:09,400 Speaker 1: Later this month they take away the challenge. I believe 614 00:31:09,480 --> 00:31:11,840 Speaker 1: they we will see them. It was on a one 615 00:31:11,920 --> 00:31:16,320 Speaker 1: year experimental basis. Nobody liked it. They've either and there's 616 00:31:16,360 --> 00:31:19,720 Speaker 1: talk about bringing back Dean Blandino, paanting whatever he wants 617 00:31:20,120 --> 00:31:21,840 Speaker 1: to come back and make him the head of the 618 00:31:22,480 --> 00:31:27,760 Speaker 1: officiating over his farmer assistant albert Al Riverod and let 619 00:31:27,920 --> 00:31:32,520 Speaker 1: Blandino because people just seem to have more trust in Blandino. 620 00:31:32,640 --> 00:31:34,720 Speaker 1: But I'm not so sure he could have done a 621 00:31:34,800 --> 00:31:37,360 Speaker 1: better job last year. So they're gonna have to call it, 622 00:31:37,920 --> 00:31:41,600 Speaker 1: like the interference with Hopkins in Baltimore. How they could 623 00:31:41,600 --> 00:31:44,120 Speaker 1: have a good conscience and not call it interference was 624 00:31:44,200 --> 00:31:47,720 Speaker 1: beyond me. Not gonna fix it tonight. You either call 625 00:31:47,800 --> 00:31:49,960 Speaker 1: it or you don't. A lot of people think they 626 00:31:50,080 --> 00:31:54,360 Speaker 1: panic because of the NFC Championship game rams against the Saints, 627 00:31:54,840 --> 00:31:58,000 Speaker 1: and you didn't see many of those. But I think 628 00:31:58,080 --> 00:32:01,480 Speaker 1: it's not gonna pass. And if they was passing, it 629 00:32:01,560 --> 00:32:04,800 Speaker 1: would be a one year experimental basis. Again, all right, general, 630 00:32:04,840 --> 00:32:06,320 Speaker 1: can you stay with us in talk Hall of Fame 631 00:32:06,400 --> 00:32:10,240 Speaker 1: cor not Pro Football Hall of Fame, necessarily Texas Sports 632 00:32:10,320 --> 00:32:12,400 Speaker 1: Hall of Fame, among other things. To talking about that 633 00:32:12,760 --> 00:32:17,960 Speaker 1: on Texans Radio. Staying with it here in the Hunday 634 00:32:18,000 --> 00:32:21,240 Speaker 1: Texans Radio studio. It's Texans All Access. John McClain is 635 00:32:21,320 --> 00:32:24,800 Speaker 1: with us, Mark Vandermer hosting tonight and I'll be hosting 636 00:32:24,840 --> 00:32:27,040 Speaker 1: tomorrow as well as we take you into the weekend 637 00:32:27,120 --> 00:32:29,440 Speaker 1: spring break from my kids next week. It's a little early. 638 00:32:29,480 --> 00:32:32,200 Speaker 1: It's for Bend County versus the rest of the world. 639 00:32:32,320 --> 00:32:35,240 Speaker 1: I'm going to Florida to the Astros spring training and 640 00:32:35,320 --> 00:32:37,800 Speaker 1: I just came back from five days in Florida two 641 00:32:37,840 --> 00:32:41,640 Speaker 1: weeks ago. In March is the busiest week of the 642 00:32:41,760 --> 00:32:45,080 Speaker 1: year in Florida because you have baseball fans, you have snowbirds, 643 00:32:45,160 --> 00:32:48,560 Speaker 1: you have spring breakers, and then you have everybody anyway 644 00:32:48,640 --> 00:32:52,240 Speaker 1: trying to get around Disney World. And March is unbelievable. 645 00:32:52,800 --> 00:32:55,840 Speaker 1: And this weekend they have the Arnold Palmer Invitational at 646 00:32:55,920 --> 00:32:59,440 Speaker 1: Bay Hill and Orlando. So it's a busy, busy month 647 00:32:59,520 --> 00:33:02,320 Speaker 1: and I can't wait to get to West Palm Beach 648 00:33:02,400 --> 00:33:04,440 Speaker 1: to watch the Astros for a couple of games. Last 649 00:33:04,520 --> 00:33:07,280 Speaker 1: year we went to Disney World in March. We actually 650 00:33:07,400 --> 00:33:11,280 Speaker 1: did it and it was nuts. But my whole thing 651 00:33:11,480 --> 00:33:15,200 Speaker 1: is with any park, you know, Houston Zoo included, Kima, anything, 652 00:33:15,320 --> 00:33:18,280 Speaker 1: get there as soon as it opens. Obviously you knock 653 00:33:18,320 --> 00:33:21,880 Speaker 1: it out early and then or really late sometimes works 654 00:33:21,880 --> 00:33:23,960 Speaker 1: as well, depending on the place. All Right, so general 655 00:33:24,320 --> 00:33:27,960 Speaker 1: Texas Sports Hall of Fame now a couple of things. 656 00:33:28,000 --> 00:33:30,400 Speaker 1: I want to get to the class this year, but 657 00:33:30,560 --> 00:33:33,920 Speaker 1: tickets are on sale for the inductions and what is 658 00:33:34,000 --> 00:33:36,600 Speaker 1: going on with you? You are going in, but how 659 00:33:36,720 --> 00:33:38,520 Speaker 1: are you going in? They put in a media class 660 00:33:38,520 --> 00:33:40,640 Speaker 1: a few years ago? Was it a decade ago? And 661 00:33:40,720 --> 00:33:43,160 Speaker 1: I am seed that and now you're going in and 662 00:33:43,320 --> 00:33:45,760 Speaker 1: congratulations once again. I know this was announced last June, 663 00:33:45,800 --> 00:33:49,280 Speaker 1: but recently the ticket information came out as how to people, 664 00:33:49,400 --> 00:33:52,920 Speaker 1: how people could participate? Well, there's the regular Texas Sports 665 00:33:53,000 --> 00:33:55,479 Speaker 1: Hall of Fame class, of which Shane Letler and RG 666 00:33:55,680 --> 00:33:59,160 Speaker 1: three or part of that that is in Waco at 667 00:33:59,200 --> 00:34:01,520 Speaker 1: the Conventions Center. That's where the Hall of Fame is, 668 00:34:01,760 --> 00:34:04,880 Speaker 1: and then the media class that you was the first 669 00:34:04,960 --> 00:34:07,360 Speaker 1: one in history. It was fourteen years ago. We added 670 00:34:07,400 --> 00:34:10,880 Speaker 1: at JW. Marriott in conjunction with a Touchdown Club of Houston, 671 00:34:11,800 --> 00:34:14,000 Speaker 1: and we said we would never do another one, but 672 00:34:14,120 --> 00:34:16,480 Speaker 1: if we ever did, it would be in Dallas. So 673 00:34:16,680 --> 00:34:20,520 Speaker 1: this year they worked out it's gonna be at at 674 00:34:20,680 --> 00:34:22,880 Speaker 1: and T Stadium. Jerry Jones is going to host it. 675 00:34:23,000 --> 00:34:25,160 Speaker 1: There's seven of us. I'm the only one not from 676 00:34:25,200 --> 00:34:29,680 Speaker 1: the Metroplex, and it's an incredible honor. And when they 677 00:34:29,800 --> 00:34:32,160 Speaker 1: told me, I told my wife Carol, I said, this 678 00:34:32,239 --> 00:34:34,640 Speaker 1: is the greatest honor I've ever had. She said, it's 679 00:34:34,680 --> 00:34:36,799 Speaker 1: not bigger than Pro Football of Fame. I said, yes, 680 00:34:36,840 --> 00:34:39,080 Speaker 1: it is. She said why. I said, you're not from Texas. 681 00:34:39,120 --> 00:34:41,880 Speaker 1: You wouldn't understand. So we're gonna be up there at 682 00:34:42,200 --> 00:34:45,680 Speaker 1: ATNT Stadium. And I got a lot of friends coming 683 00:34:45,760 --> 00:34:48,080 Speaker 1: from Waco and Houston, and I had friends that live 684 00:34:48,200 --> 00:34:50,920 Speaker 1: up in that area. And it's going to be unbelievable 685 00:34:51,080 --> 00:34:55,520 Speaker 1: making that speech with the second group. They call it 686 00:34:55,800 --> 00:34:59,800 Speaker 1: Icons of Texas journalism like Randy Galloway, long time Callum 687 00:34:59,840 --> 00:35:02,200 Speaker 1: Us talk show. I was Frank Glieber, first played by 688 00:35:02,280 --> 00:35:05,360 Speaker 1: play guy for the Cowboys. Brad Sam been covering to 689 00:35:05,440 --> 00:35:08,760 Speaker 1: Cowboys They're played by play for over thirty five years. 690 00:35:09,160 --> 00:35:12,440 Speaker 1: The late Bill Mercer did the Rangers and Cowboys, and 691 00:35:13,480 --> 00:35:16,080 Speaker 1: Sharene Williams from the four Ward Star Telegram now with 692 00:35:16,480 --> 00:35:19,640 Speaker 1: pro Football talking. Denny Freeman, who was AP sports edtor, 693 00:35:20,200 --> 00:35:22,919 Speaker 1: covered to Cowboys and wrote books about the Cowboys, will 694 00:35:22,960 --> 00:35:26,960 Speaker 1: be the ones inducted on May thirtieth. I'm so glad 695 00:35:27,000 --> 00:35:31,359 Speaker 1: you're there because this is so heavily Cowboys. Now, why 696 00:35:31,480 --> 00:35:34,360 Speaker 1: is it so heavily swboy? I was not at the 697 00:35:34,520 --> 00:35:38,480 Speaker 1: meeting in June when the committee voted on people, and 698 00:35:39,400 --> 00:35:41,880 Speaker 1: when they called me and they told me I was in, 699 00:35:42,040 --> 00:35:45,200 Speaker 1: and they told the list, and I told David Baron 700 00:35:45,280 --> 00:35:48,520 Speaker 1: from the Chronicle and Melanie Houser who works for the 701 00:35:48,680 --> 00:35:51,560 Speaker 1: Sports Start. He was a longtime sports writer for the Post. 702 00:35:52,000 --> 00:35:54,040 Speaker 1: I said, my goodness, you guys didn't do a very 703 00:35:54,080 --> 00:35:56,680 Speaker 1: good campaign and said, at least you got in. I said, 704 00:35:56,680 --> 00:35:59,120 Speaker 1: you're right, No way I could complain about it. But 705 00:36:00,320 --> 00:36:02,560 Speaker 1: the Hall of Fame, there's so many good media people 706 00:36:02,680 --> 00:36:06,719 Speaker 1: covered sports in our state for century that are that 707 00:36:06,840 --> 00:36:09,000 Speaker 1: are not in, and the Hall of Fame said they 708 00:36:09,040 --> 00:36:11,480 Speaker 1: don't want to wait another fourteen years. They'll probably wait 709 00:36:12,000 --> 00:36:14,279 Speaker 1: another five years to do another one. I'm gonna try 710 00:36:14,320 --> 00:36:16,759 Speaker 1: to get that one back in Houston because, as you knows, 711 00:36:16,800 --> 00:36:19,720 Speaker 1: ours came off very smooth. It was great. And maybe 712 00:36:20,120 --> 00:36:23,120 Speaker 1: I want Jeane Elston, the late Jack Gallagher sports that 713 00:36:23,200 --> 00:36:26,480 Speaker 1: are the post Jean Peterson, Jean Peterson, there's so many 714 00:36:26,600 --> 00:36:29,080 Speaker 1: maybe fully with them. I don't Milow Hamilton to me, 715 00:36:29,200 --> 00:36:31,279 Speaker 1: if you're if you're in a Baseball Hall of Fame 716 00:36:31,400 --> 00:36:34,680 Speaker 1: like Gene Elston, then uh, Milo Hamilton, you ought to 717 00:36:34,719 --> 00:36:36,359 Speaker 1: be in the Texas Sports Hall of Fame. Well, it's 718 00:36:36,360 --> 00:36:38,920 Speaker 1: funny because you have multiple cowboy announcers going into this 719 00:36:39,000 --> 00:36:41,439 Speaker 1: Texas Sports Hall of Fame. Media. Well they've been They've 720 00:36:41,440 --> 00:36:44,640 Speaker 1: done it for decades, that's the thing. And sham Brad 721 00:36:44,840 --> 00:36:47,040 Speaker 1: is just terrific. He's a great guy, and you know, 722 00:36:47,120 --> 00:36:50,000 Speaker 1: I love him. He's great. Now, obviously don't love the Cowboys, 723 00:36:50,040 --> 00:36:52,560 Speaker 1: but I really like Brad. But it's it would be 724 00:36:52,640 --> 00:36:56,920 Speaker 1: interesting to have Elston and Milow go in Astro's voices 725 00:36:56,920 --> 00:36:59,600 Speaker 1: because you know they get along. They got along so well, yeah, 726 00:36:59,640 --> 00:37:01,759 Speaker 1: they they'd have to, they'd have to put a wall 727 00:37:01,880 --> 00:37:06,400 Speaker 1: up between them in heaven. Well, Mala's a legend, you know, 728 00:37:06,560 --> 00:37:09,920 Speaker 1: and so is Gene els funny because he's before your time, 729 00:37:10,000 --> 00:37:11,840 Speaker 1: but all of us his first twenty five years of 730 00:37:11,840 --> 00:37:14,960 Speaker 1: the Astros, I used to listen to their games. I 731 00:37:15,200 --> 00:37:18,279 Speaker 1: listened Next Vision games, pregame, post game. I listened to 732 00:37:18,280 --> 00:37:21,359 Speaker 1: the regular season pregame post game. I wouldn't go out 733 00:37:21,400 --> 00:37:23,520 Speaker 1: with any girls in high school unless they'd be willing 734 00:37:23,560 --> 00:37:26,080 Speaker 1: to listen to the Astros every night in the summer. 735 00:37:26,200 --> 00:37:29,279 Speaker 1: Cost me a lot of girlfriends. John, Really you have 736 00:37:29,480 --> 00:37:32,279 Speaker 1: that stipulation. Well, it's summertime. You got the radio on. 737 00:37:32,360 --> 00:37:33,799 Speaker 1: They have to be able to live with it, right, 738 00:37:34,600 --> 00:37:37,719 Speaker 1: instead of most did not. So you say, instead of 739 00:37:37,800 --> 00:37:40,399 Speaker 1: listening to Casey and the Sunshine Band, we are gonna 740 00:37:40,480 --> 00:37:43,720 Speaker 1: listen to the Astros. Right. Every night was set aside 741 00:37:43,800 --> 00:37:46,600 Speaker 1: for listening to the Astros. Gene Elston and low Pass 742 00:37:46,719 --> 00:37:50,080 Speaker 1: and Harry Callis was in there for a while. Bob Prince, 743 00:37:50,200 --> 00:37:53,160 Speaker 1: it was amazing the cast that came through. But to me, 744 00:37:53,800 --> 00:37:55,879 Speaker 1: when I talked to Gene Elston for the first time. 745 00:37:55,960 --> 00:37:58,719 Speaker 1: After I got to euston, my lips would my lips moved? 746 00:37:59,040 --> 00:38:01,600 Speaker 1: And no sound came. So wait a minute, you said, 747 00:38:02,080 --> 00:38:05,040 Speaker 1: who was the original voice of the Dallas Cowboys? Pardon me? Well, 748 00:38:05,120 --> 00:38:09,359 Speaker 1: original originally verse? Uh no, the Vernon was too young? 749 00:38:09,640 --> 00:38:13,160 Speaker 1: Was Frank Glieber? He did TV and radio, so he's 750 00:38:13,160 --> 00:38:16,760 Speaker 1: going in. Vernon was a sportscaster on Channel eight ABC. 751 00:38:17,000 --> 00:38:18,680 Speaker 1: Up there. Didn't he do play by play for the 752 00:38:18,719 --> 00:38:22,080 Speaker 1: Cowboys eventually? Yeah? And then eventually he went to the network. Okay, 753 00:38:22,320 --> 00:38:25,360 Speaker 1: and did Brad I know there's Brad was a sideline 754 00:38:25,400 --> 00:38:29,400 Speaker 1: reporter for the Cowboys, hired by Gliber before he became 755 00:38:29,440 --> 00:38:31,640 Speaker 1: their play by play. All right, so Brad was at 756 00:38:31,800 --> 00:38:36,480 Speaker 1: the catch game? Brad was there? Remember catch game? You 757 00:38:36,560 --> 00:38:39,120 Speaker 1: were at the game? Sure, that's so cool. Yeah, it 758 00:38:39,200 --> 00:38:41,600 Speaker 1: was great. There's a lot of great plays in NFL history. 759 00:38:41,640 --> 00:38:44,080 Speaker 1: I was. I was covering them, and I was behind 760 00:38:44,160 --> 00:38:46,760 Speaker 1: the end zone for the catch with Ed valer a columnus. 761 00:38:47,160 --> 00:38:49,520 Speaker 1: And it was cold, and we're all covered up with 762 00:38:49,840 --> 00:38:52,520 Speaker 1: long coats and everything, and all of a sudden, Montana's 763 00:38:52,600 --> 00:38:55,200 Speaker 1: rolling to his right and he throws the ball away, 764 00:38:55,280 --> 00:38:58,000 Speaker 1: And I said, del head Vowler, where the hell is boom. 765 00:38:58,320 --> 00:39:00,919 Speaker 1: Here it comes Dwight Clark out of know. We thought 766 00:39:00,960 --> 00:39:03,399 Speaker 1: he was throwing it away. A lot of people think 767 00:39:03,680 --> 00:39:06,759 Speaker 1: that he was throwing it away, but no, Montana would 768 00:39:06,800 --> 00:39:09,520 Speaker 1: never admit that he was throwing to Clark all along. 769 00:39:10,000 --> 00:39:13,280 Speaker 1: So is that the greatest play you've ever seen in person? 770 00:39:13,760 --> 00:39:17,560 Speaker 1: The magnitude of it, Yes, because it signaled the changing 771 00:39:17,640 --> 00:39:20,480 Speaker 1: of the guard forty nine ers over the Cowboys, and 772 00:39:20,920 --> 00:39:24,719 Speaker 1: it was a spectacular play moment. And I've showed I've 773 00:39:24,840 --> 00:39:28,320 Speaker 1: stopped action to everything in the end zone. I know 774 00:39:28,440 --> 00:39:31,480 Speaker 1: where I am because I had a long hair, and 775 00:39:31,640 --> 00:39:33,160 Speaker 1: I had a lot of hair, and I had a 776 00:39:33,239 --> 00:39:36,239 Speaker 1: long coat, and I might have been wearing a hat. 777 00:39:36,400 --> 00:39:38,640 Speaker 1: You can't see me, no matter how many times I 778 00:39:38,719 --> 00:39:40,759 Speaker 1: look at it, because I want to show my wife 779 00:39:40,840 --> 00:39:44,680 Speaker 1: there I am, but you can't tell. Oh and Sham 780 00:39:44,840 --> 00:39:48,000 Speaker 1: worked that game on the radio as a sideline reporter. Yeah, 781 00:39:48,000 --> 00:39:49,920 Speaker 1: I can't remember if he's on a sideline or what. 782 00:39:50,080 --> 00:39:52,680 Speaker 1: I'm guessing if he's been doing his thirty seven years, 783 00:39:53,280 --> 00:39:55,680 Speaker 1: was that that was before thirty seven years. So yeah, 784 00:39:55,960 --> 00:39:58,800 Speaker 1: long time listeners will know that I have a favorite 785 00:39:58,880 --> 00:40:02,440 Speaker 1: statistic of that game, just to point out what is it. 786 00:40:02,680 --> 00:40:07,080 Speaker 1: That greatness is not about the numbers. Joe Montana threw 787 00:40:07,120 --> 00:40:10,279 Speaker 1: two interceptions in that game, but he ends up throwing 788 00:40:10,320 --> 00:40:12,120 Speaker 1: to Dwight Clark in the back of the end zone 789 00:40:12,200 --> 00:40:14,520 Speaker 1: for one of the greatest, one of the easily top 790 00:40:14,680 --> 00:40:17,320 Speaker 1: three greatest plays in the history of this league, in 791 00:40:17,400 --> 00:40:20,359 Speaker 1: a game in which he threw two interceptions. None of it. Man, 792 00:40:20,480 --> 00:40:23,399 Speaker 1: nobody remembers. I don't remember, not covered it, nobody see, 793 00:40:23,640 --> 00:40:26,840 Speaker 1: nobody remembers. They do remember Danny White fumbling on the 794 00:40:27,000 --> 00:40:32,960 Speaker 1: ensuing Cowboy drive, a winning, potentially winning drive for the Cowboys. 795 00:40:33,160 --> 00:40:35,000 Speaker 1: They had enough time to move it down the field 796 00:40:35,040 --> 00:40:37,399 Speaker 1: that they were moving the ball, but he fumbled. Game 797 00:40:37,480 --> 00:40:40,800 Speaker 1: over Niners dynasty begins. Where you do you believe? In 798 00:40:40,880 --> 00:40:43,360 Speaker 1: this off season one hundred year anniversary, they say the 799 00:40:43,480 --> 00:40:47,600 Speaker 1: greatest play was the Immaculate Reception, and then they did 800 00:40:47,719 --> 00:40:51,200 Speaker 1: that for the one hundred years celebration, and ap did 801 00:40:51,280 --> 00:40:53,279 Speaker 1: one and that also was the greatest play in history. 802 00:40:53,360 --> 00:40:54,920 Speaker 1: You know, it's the one you see more often than 803 00:40:54,960 --> 00:40:56,520 Speaker 1: any other play in the history of the league. And 804 00:40:56,640 --> 00:40:59,319 Speaker 1: it's got the sexy name that didn't even get named 805 00:40:59,360 --> 00:41:01,600 Speaker 1: for a long time. It didn't even get name. You're 806 00:41:01,680 --> 00:41:04,560 Speaker 1: right That name came in later the catch. They didn't 807 00:41:04,560 --> 00:41:06,680 Speaker 1: call the catch to catch right away either, by the way, 808 00:41:06,680 --> 00:41:09,759 Speaker 1: and I remember that game on television. But it's a 809 00:41:09,880 --> 00:41:14,200 Speaker 1: great question. I think that both players are outstanding. What 810 00:41:14,360 --> 00:41:17,200 Speaker 1: I find interesting about both plays is that highly notable. 811 00:41:17,719 --> 00:41:20,279 Speaker 1: Neither one is a championship game, and it just goes 812 00:41:20,320 --> 00:41:23,279 Speaker 1: to show you any given Sunday. They're both postseason games, 813 00:41:23,320 --> 00:41:26,320 Speaker 1: so they're huge, but any given Sunday. I was watching 814 00:41:26,400 --> 00:41:30,919 Speaker 1: the Patriots Oakland documentary the other day and they talk 815 00:41:30,960 --> 00:41:33,239 Speaker 1: about that game as if it was bigger than a 816 00:41:33,280 --> 00:41:35,879 Speaker 1: super Bowl. It was a divisional playoff game. And even 817 00:41:35,920 --> 00:41:40,360 Speaker 1: the Raiders and franchise game, the touch game, Yes, exactly. 818 00:41:40,719 --> 00:41:42,840 Speaker 1: So then there's the rosen coopter. Yeah, we don't have 819 00:41:42,880 --> 00:41:44,359 Speaker 1: to give it that, John, What do you have going 820 00:41:44,400 --> 00:41:48,040 Speaker 1: ont of the Chronicle? I got today a column on 821 00:41:48,080 --> 00:41:52,560 Speaker 1: the Roughnecks Sunday. I'm writing about after the combine corners 822 00:41:52,640 --> 00:41:55,680 Speaker 1: and interior pass risers, who might be there in the 823 00:41:55,800 --> 00:41:59,239 Speaker 1: second round if Bill Brian wants to fill one of 824 00:41:59,320 --> 00:42:01,600 Speaker 1: those needs based on what he did in free agency. 825 00:42:01,719 --> 00:42:03,440 Speaker 1: Thanks a lot for joining us, Thank you very much, 826 00:42:03,520 --> 00:42:06,600 Speaker 1: Mark and Joy spring break. I will do that Tomorrow, 827 00:42:06,640 --> 00:42:08,480 Speaker 1: we'll be back at six. I'll Beyond the Morning Show 828 00:42:08,520 --> 00:42:10,600 Speaker 1: on Sports Radio six ten at eight o'clock eight to 829 00:42:10,719 --> 00:42:12,840 Speaker 1: nine am tomorrow. I have a great evening everyone, and 830 00:42:13,000 --> 00:42:13,760 Speaker 1: go Texans.