Speaker 1: Hey, this is Brian Alvarez and this is today's edition
Speaker 1: of the Wrestling Observer Daily podcast on the eight Side Network. Ready, Ready,
Speaker 1: let's get it all. How's it going, everybody? Brian Alvarez
Speaker 1: here on or Wrestling Observer Live. We are here every
Speaker 1: day Monday through Friday, a New Pacific three Eastern, Sunday
Speaker 1: three Pacific, six Eastern. Well, it's Wednesday here on the show,
Speaker 1: and it is also January five, and you know that
Speaker 1: means night too of Russell Kingdom is in the books.
Speaker 1: And what did you think of the show? I have
Speaker 1: not seen everything yet, not gonna lie, but I have
Speaker 1: seen the most important matches on both shows. I have
Speaker 1: actually shouldn't say the most important matches because I've not
Speaker 1: seen the Stardom match yet. But I have seen the
Speaker 1: Tanahashi kent To match for the i w g P
Speaker 1: United States Heavyweight title in a no d Q match.
Speaker 1: I've seen Okada versus will Ospray to unify the titles.
Speaker 1: And yes, I went back yesterday and I watched Evil
Speaker 1: versus Tomo hero Is she E. So I got a
Speaker 1: lot to talk about from these two shows, and obviously
Speaker 1: news coming out of the shows as well. Yesterday was
Speaker 1: also n x T two point oh their New Year's
Speaker 1: Evil Show, which was not as good as what I've
Speaker 1: seen on the Tokyo Dome. Run Breakers, your new NXC
Speaker 1: champion beat Tamasa Champa. They had a very very good
Speaker 1: main event, and I got reports of the show. It
Speaker 1: was like, not very good at all except for the
Speaker 1: main event, and I thought it was fine. Uh, there
Speaker 1: were some problems, but Riddle and ms Caver s Imperium,
Speaker 1: I mean that was really good, and Carmelo and Roderick
Speaker 1: Strong was good. Anyway, we can talk about that. We
Speaker 1: also got a lot of other news. Tonight is the
Speaker 1: a W debut, Dynamite moves to TBS. We have got
Speaker 1: Hangman page Brian Danielson two for the a W World
Speaker 1: title with judges. If it happens to go sixty minutes.
Speaker 1: I'll tell you about that and all of the other
Speaker 1: matches on the show because there are a lot of them.
Speaker 1: The Young Bucks and Bran and Cutler off the show
Speaker 1: due to COVID and COVID exposure. I'll give you an
Speaker 1: update on that and uh. Also in terms of COVID,
Speaker 1: Callisto did an Instagram post where he he basically said
Speaker 1: he got COVID nineteen over the summer and almost killed him.
Speaker 1: So we can tell you about that and a lot
Speaker 1: of other news. But when we come back from the break,
Speaker 1: we're gonna talk about the top story today. What is
Speaker 1: the top story you ask? Well, yesterday everybody was asking
Speaker 1: was the She Evil actually worse than a J and Omas?
Speaker 1: I will answer that question for you after the breakups
Speaker 1: over live back of the show. Brian Albert is here
Speaker 1: wrestling observer Alive. Mike simper Viv also a wrestling observer
Speaker 1: at dot com. Well, as I promised, top story today,
Speaker 1: is it possible for is she to have a bad match?
Speaker 1: Was a She versus Evil on Night one of the
Speaker 1: tokyot Home worse then a J versus Omas on Raw? Well,
Speaker 1: now that I've seen both matches, I have answered to
Speaker 1: all of these questions everyone. First off, the answer is yes,
Speaker 1: she can be in a bad match. Now would I
Speaker 1: say that she can have a bad match, Well, that's
Speaker 1: a little bit different because if you actually watched the
Speaker 1: match for the first I don't know, four minutes before
Speaker 1: anybody got involved, I mean, it actually was good because
Speaker 1: he she is great, But then and everybody got involved
Speaker 1: and uh, the match sucked, okay, but the match sucked
Speaker 1: because the booking sucked and the run ins and the interference,
Speaker 1: and she lost. So he's no longer than ever open
Speaker 1: Way champion. Evil is so like from that perspective, I mean,
Speaker 1: it's sucked. It's just horrible, okay. But if you are
Speaker 1: gonna come on the chat or call me or text
Speaker 1: me or whatever, and you're gonna try and tell me
Speaker 1: the straight face that the match was worse than a
Speaker 1: j and Omas, you know that tells me you didn't
Speaker 1: see a j and Omas. That match, that wrestling match
Speaker 1: was far worse than Evil. And as she now, I'm
Speaker 1: not defending Evil, and she sucks, and we gotta get
Speaker 1: rid of this bullet club or House of Pain or
Speaker 1: whatever there is gimmick is now it sucks, you know.
Speaker 1: You know how I know something sucks when they're doing
Speaker 1: a match and you've got a beloved baby face like
Speaker 1: a she, and as she gets taken to the ropes
Speaker 1: and some fellow named Dick Togo takes a steel chair
Speaker 1: and he whacks a She in the back, and there's death.
Speaker 1: Lee's silence in the Tokyo Dome. There was no booing.
Speaker 1: There was no gasping, deathly, deadly silence in the Tokyo Dome.
Speaker 1: That's when you know the don't work no more. And
Speaker 1: it wasn't even the match that they usually do or
Speaker 1: everybody in her fears and they do all this stuff,
Speaker 1: and you know, Evil has been hitting people with this
Speaker 1: gimmick all through the tour, and so you think he's
Speaker 1: gonna hit the guy with the gimmick at the Tokyo Dome.
Speaker 1: But then the guy's gonna kick out and beat him
Speaker 1: and he'll get his handheld high with his Nope, they
Speaker 1: beat him, beat a she So yeah, it absolutely sucked everybody,
Speaker 1: but almost Omas and a j much worse, much worse. Now,
Speaker 1: I got two things I want to talk about because
Speaker 1: I've only seen two matches from the from night too
Speaker 1: of the Dome show. The first match I saw was
Speaker 1: Tanahashi and Kenta. Okay, God bless these two guys. They
Speaker 1: had a nod Q match, and so there were trash cans,
Speaker 1: there were chairs, there were tables, and there was a ladder. Okay, Now,
Speaker 1: if you are an American and you use American ladders,
Speaker 1: you know how a ladder works. Well, it shut and
Speaker 1: then you open it up and it's got this thing
Speaker 1: across it that prevents it from like going like this
Speaker 1: and you fall down and die. Okay, that's a that's
Speaker 1: a ladder. You just open it up. It's done. This
Speaker 1: ladder that they had, I was was it opens but
Speaker 1: it will just keep going like this. There was no
Speaker 1: thing in the middle because you have to open it,
Speaker 1: and then there are four count them four, there's four
Speaker 1: like hanging gimmicks. Then you have to attach from one
Speaker 1: side of the ladder to the other. Do this match
Speaker 1: was Let me see how long the match was. The
Speaker 1: match was twenty two minutes and forty seconds. Okay, a
Speaker 1: full twenty minutes of this match was Kanta trying to
Speaker 1: put this almost in a bad word. I forgot what
Speaker 1: show was on. Kent is trying to put this stupid
Speaker 1: ladder together, and like he's shouting profanities in Japanese and
Speaker 1: the audience is laughing. He's trying to put this stupid
Speaker 1: ladder together. I have never seen, I asked, sort of.
Speaker 1: I don't think I've ever seen in my life a
Speaker 1: hardcore match where more of the match was spent trying
Speaker 1: to put the stuff together. They're trying to open this
Speaker 1: table and the table, the legs won't stay open. They're
Speaker 1: trying open this stupid ladder, Oh my god, and they're
Speaker 1: taking these bumps onto these chairs and it's just a
Speaker 1: total garbage match with two great workers. And then Kenton decides,
Speaker 1: let me come to the top of this ladder and
Speaker 1: do some spot. Well, he gets stop the ladder and
Speaker 1: tan Ash. She jumps off this table and Tanashi tries
Speaker 1: to tip over this this ladder, but the ladder is
Speaker 1: like literally it's like two ft tall, literally two hunter
Speaker 1: feet tall. So he's trying to tip it. It's it's
Speaker 1: all wobbling everything like that, and finally kent it just
Speaker 1: like he falls. He does like a stomach first bump
Speaker 1: off this ladder and he hits his face on the
Speaker 1: side of a trash can and he just comes up.
Speaker 1: He's just pouring blood everywhere for this stupid spot. Then
Speaker 1: Tanashi puts him on this table and tana Hashi at
Speaker 1: forty something years old, and he's he's like forty years
Speaker 1: old and his knees are shot. He climbs up to
Speaker 1: this like way up high on this ladder and he
Speaker 1: does a high fly flow off the ladder and he
Speaker 1: puts Kenter to this table and I'm like, brother, why
Speaker 1: there's like thirty people in the Tokyo Dome this year?
Speaker 1: You just about and Chris Charlton's begging him not to
Speaker 1: do it. He's like, he'll he'll never be the same again,
Speaker 1: but he doesn't. He puts him to the table and
Speaker 1: he wins. And I mean it was a spectacle, like
Speaker 1: if you're in his spectacles, I mean you got one.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, what were these two guys doing doing
Speaker 1: all this stuff? I was just sad watching it. And
Speaker 1: then O'Connor willis bringing the main event was awesome And
Speaker 1: the only thing I'll say is two fantastic athletes, two
Speaker 1: great workers. They had a great match, and this place
Speaker 1: it sounds like it sounded like they were wrestling. You
Speaker 1: ever seeing those old National Geographic shows, were like some
Speaker 1: explorer goes like there's some cavern, you know, three ft
Speaker 1: below the north pole. And I'm surprising I didn't wear
Speaker 1: those helmets with a light on top when they did
Speaker 1: this match. This crowd is just it's silent, and the
Speaker 1: stuff is just echoing off the walls of this empty building,
Speaker 1: and it just felt like I was watching a dying promotion,
Speaker 1: which is not by the way, but because it's two
Speaker 1: nights in the Dome and you know, there's it's just
Speaker 1: sad watching it. But it's a match. It was a
Speaker 1: great match, but it's just a match where you watch it.
Speaker 1: It was great, but like people were going, was this
Speaker 1: better than the Shingo match? And I was like, I'm
Speaker 1: not sure, because like both of them were great, but
Speaker 1: you don't have the crowd going crazy and they're going
Speaker 1: knuts and popping. I mean, the crowd silent and they
Speaker 1: do the spot where they throw a forearm and the
Speaker 1: crowds like they're chopping there. They're they're clapping for each
Speaker 1: of the strikes or whatever. But other than that, it's
Speaker 1: it's just, uh, can we I don't even know. It's
Speaker 1: not their fault, but just sad. But anyway, great match,
Speaker 1: great main event. Which thing, Mike, how was the Okan match?
Speaker 1: How's O'Kon and Sonata a technical masterpiece? I missed it.
Speaker 1: I'm trying not to do any callbacks to yesterday at all,
Speaker 1: but let me before that, let me just ask you,
Speaker 1: why are you sad for? Why are you sad for? Why?
Speaker 1: I can understand why you're sad about the crowd because
Speaker 1: of the code. There's nobody there. They're not allowed to
Speaker 1: cheer there. They have to sit there quietly during these
Speaker 1: these Maine events. Uh are you sad about Tamahashi in
Speaker 1: Kenta though? Why are you sad? Because they're too great
Speaker 1: to be to be killing themselves like this. Well, yeah,
Speaker 1: they're too great to be killing themselves in a horrible
Speaker 1: match where they have to be construction workers and putting
Speaker 1: the ladder together. I'm sure Kenton when he signed his contract,
Speaker 1: like one of the clauses was you will put ladder
Speaker 1: together in hardcore matches and he's like, I don't even
Speaker 1: know my wrench, dude, did it not take forever to
Speaker 1: put this stuff together? Like his comedy? You didn't see
Speaker 1: the stardom uh match with the ladders um with the
Speaker 1: finals of the the treos that they had with that
Speaker 1: with that ladder on it. They Yeah, some of the
Speaker 1: ladders and tables when he comes to Japan, they maybe
Speaker 1: they need to import some because I'm not sure if
Speaker 1: the blood that was still left splattered across the table
Speaker 1: after Tanahashi put Kenta through it came from Kenta's face
Speaker 1: or the fact that maybe it was from his back
Speaker 1: because the way he went through that table. I mean,
Speaker 1: the Japanese tables are of course famous for not being
Speaker 1: able to break very easy. They mentioned he was scarred
Speaker 1: for life from going theysolutely smashed through it. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: they mentioned that because they mentioned that about Tona Haji,
Speaker 1: because as you mentioned, Chris just kept saying over and over, yeah,
Speaker 1: you could win the title, but you're not gonna be
Speaker 1: able to have any defenses because you won't be able
Speaker 1: to walk after that dive. And he barely could. I mean, man,
Speaker 1: they worked hard about sad being the word I use,
Speaker 1: though it's certainly not sad. It was. I was kind
Speaker 1: of sad watching it. It was just and we'll talk
Speaker 1: more about this show after the break. We had a
Speaker 1: lot to get into stick around him her light. We
Speaker 1: saw the boys strike Noboddy, No, the bank, don't compete. Next,
Speaker 1: Oh this ladder. Yeah, Kenne is trying to set up
Speaker 1: this ladder and he just can't do it, and so
Speaker 1: he asks Red Shoes, the referee, for help, but she's like,
Speaker 1: it's on you, brother, not helping. So poor Kenda takes
Speaker 1: an hour to set up this ladder and then and
Speaker 1: you know, you guys don't know this because the way
Speaker 1: they shoot it in w W you see it every
Speaker 1: now and then, but when they have the super high
Speaker 1: ladders in w W E, they usually have like at
Speaker 1: least two referees out there holding the ladder to make
Speaker 1: sure it doesn't tip over. Canada's on like tana Hashi
Speaker 1: goes to climb this ladder, okay, and uh, you know,
Speaker 1: the higher he gets, the more wobbly it is. And
Speaker 1: then he's trying to turn around as he's you know,
Speaker 1: three runs from the top, and it takes him an
Speaker 1: hour to try to turn around because it's so wobbly,
Speaker 1: and I'm looking down and it's like, where's red shoes?
Speaker 1: Can you at least hold the ladder, nopeches Like you're
Speaker 1: on your own, buddy, you turn around. You either make
Speaker 1: it or you don't. And thankfully he made it. And hey,
Speaker 1: the high fly flow look great. And there was a
Speaker 1: spot in the in the Olcada Osprey match. Okada or
Speaker 1: Osprey did this moon salt off a lighting rig that
Speaker 1: I realized I was ejaggerating with two feet but he
Speaker 1: was legitimately twelve feet in the air because it was
Speaker 1: double the height of Ocada, and he did this moon
Speaker 1: salt off this ladder, and I have no idea how
Speaker 1: he didn't destroy both of his knees. It was scary looking,
Speaker 1: but he did it. And like I said, the match
Speaker 1: was great. If this had been a full Tokyo Dome,
Speaker 1: people going nuts. I mean, people will be talking about
Speaker 1: from Match of the year. I would suspect five months
Speaker 1: from now it will not be in the running for
Speaker 1: Match of the Year. What did you think of this show?
Speaker 1: What else did you see? Mike? I saw the last
Speaker 1: five matches. Actually I didn't have a chance to see
Speaker 1: the King of Pro Wrestling UH four away and everything
Speaker 1: that took place before that. I'll be watching that before
Speaker 1: Adam and I record the big audio Nightmare, which I
Speaker 1: think is gonna be a little bit later on today.
Speaker 1: But you know, one thing, because the one thing for
Speaker 1: you go because it's breaking news. Uh W is on
Speaker 1: another firing spree. Yeah, you'll hear about it more soon,
Speaker 1: but at this moment, I know that people are getting
Speaker 1: fired in an x T sou We'll no more, probably
Speaker 1: by the end of the show. But you know, they
Speaker 1: just got they just got too many people as they
Speaker 1: have literally nobody to face the Roman reins. It just sucks.
Speaker 1: Go ahead, well, let's see the names too. You know,
Speaker 1: it's see if it's a mix of people as well too,
Speaker 1: if there's any redundancy issues or anything like that. But
Speaker 1: you know, you made a crack about Sonata and Great Ocon,
Speaker 1: you know, as far as the technical aspect of an
Speaker 1: o'con getting that award, but it appears to be mostly
Speaker 1: office by the way, go ahead at this point. This
Speaker 1: could change, but right now it's it seems to be
Speaker 1: office people. So Sonata and o'con actually was, you know,
Speaker 1: at its moments, actually being technically really good, and of
Speaker 1: course that comes from Sonata. It gets the victory in
Speaker 1: that match, that's followed up by Tetsu Nito and Jeff
Speaker 1: Cobb and what was a really great fifteen and a
Speaker 1: half minutes. Jeff Cobb is, He's fantastic. You know, if
Speaker 1: they wanted to rebuild the tag team division and inserts
Speaker 1: some new blood into a Great Ocon as a team
Speaker 1: with Jeff Cobb would be great. You know, I'd love
Speaker 1: to see Jeff Cobb in the mix for singles titles.
Speaker 1: But the way it looks right now, you know, with
Speaker 1: Evil holding the the i C title and and just
Speaker 1: all that sort of stuff, I don't know if that's
Speaker 1: sort of the never title. I'm not sure if that's
Speaker 1: a direct action that they would want to go. But
Speaker 1: him is in a tag team with Osprey continuing the
Speaker 1: challenge Okada. I love that, and I think they made
Speaker 1: the right decision with Ocada and Osprey too. I'm not sure.
Speaker 1: You know, everybody's got their favorites on who they wanted
Speaker 1: to see come out of this thing. But I think
Speaker 1: with the situation they're in right now, with the with
Speaker 1: the you know cash that Okada has, I think it's
Speaker 1: the right time. And plus he gets a chance to
Speaker 1: finally wear his very first i w g P World Heavyweight. Yeah,
Speaker 1: all he did was complain about how the belt sucked
Speaker 1: and he wanted the old belt pack, and then he
Speaker 1: starts carrying around the old belt and he wins this belt.
Speaker 1: Now he's proud. Well, I agreed with him earlier. By
Speaker 1: the way, Jeff probably still agrees with that too. But
Speaker 1: you know, this is how things go. Sometimes. You know,
Speaker 1: you've got a boss that's uh real pain in the ass,
Speaker 1: and they want it their way all of the time,
Speaker 1: over and over again, and they just constantly will tear
Speaker 1: you down. Sometimes you just have to say it fine,
Speaker 1: I'll take you. But promotion, you're talking about all of them.
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, why can take my text arcana title?
Speaker 1: Come on, get real brother? So anyway, there's uh, get
Speaker 1: out of here. So anyway, there's a lot of other
Speaker 1: stuff going on that we gotta talk about. We can
Speaker 1: come back to this one when you do uh, when
Speaker 1: we do commentary later. You know what I'm talking about
Speaker 1: when you contact me. But tonight is a W They
Speaker 1: moved to TBS, So of course if you DVR this show,
Speaker 1: VCR or whatever, if you're one of these old school folks,
Speaker 1: then you need to change it to TBS. The lineup
Speaker 1: tonight Hangman page Brian Danielson for the au W World title.
Speaker 1: This match sixty minute time limit with judges, and uh,
Speaker 1: we don't know who the judges are yet. I think
Speaker 1: people have Do we know the judges? I I heard
Speaker 1: a name, but I don't know if that guy was
Speaker 1: joking or what the situation is. I don't they haven't
Speaker 1: announced it. I don't believe you think that they would
Speaker 1: announce these judges because it's kind of like an important
Speaker 1: part of the story. Well, but that's the that's the
Speaker 1: reason they're not doing that because if they do announce
Speaker 1: the name, somebody's gonna try to draw lines right away
Speaker 1: or something like that as Max Caster really wonder is
Speaker 1: he joking? That's my question. Oh god, I if that's
Speaker 1: going to be the case, and I love Max Caster
Speaker 1: and everything, but it's like, don't do that, you know,
Speaker 1: make it where I don't know if this is gonna
Speaker 1: be for the world title. This is a really important thing.
Speaker 1: You're just doing a really w c W thing if
Speaker 1: you bring in Jason Hervey, Patty Mullen. And I'm not
Speaker 1: saying that, well, if one of your wrestlers is at
Speaker 1: that level, the story is a w W story here.
Speaker 1: But the judges, Yeah, maybe, but it doesn't to me.
Speaker 1: You can't. You can't do that. I mean, if you're
Speaker 1: gonna do that, why would Max Caster be a judge
Speaker 1: other than he won like a lot of thing. If
Speaker 1: you're gonna do that, put it on BT or something.
Speaker 1: It's like somebody won the raffle to be one of
Speaker 1: the judges for the World Heavyweight Championship contest. I that's crazy. Well,
Speaker 1: Leny Lenny here does say they never announced the jog
Speaker 1: just for Flair Steamboat in eighty nine and that ended
Speaker 1: up just fine. So I guess, well, here's the deal, everybody,
Speaker 1: here's the deal. Yeah they I think they did announce
Speaker 1: them beforehand, but somebody cleared this up. But here's here's
Speaker 1: here's the deal, everybody. I don't know the finish. I
Speaker 1: don't know who's winning. I would say with ninety nine
Speaker 1: point nine nine certainty it's not going to the judges. Okay,
Speaker 1: how long should the match go is a big question. Well,
Speaker 1: by the way, I don't know you fifty bucks because
Speaker 1: that Okada Osprey match went over thirty minutes. But anyway,
Speaker 1: here's the thing with this match. Based on the first
Speaker 1: match going to a sixty minute draw, and based on
Speaker 1: the fact that the match grew like through the entire
Speaker 1: hour and fifteen minutes it was on the air, this
Speaker 1: should go long, but it should not go to a draw.
Speaker 1: I would probably do forty two forty four minutes, because
Speaker 1: you do want to tease is that it's going to
Speaker 1: go to a draw again. But it shouldn't go to
Speaker 1: a draw. And you know, the longer you go, the
Speaker 1: more people are going to watch the match. So I
Speaker 1: think that it should go long, but not to a draw.
Speaker 1: And you know, there's a lot of rumors about John
Speaker 1: Moxley because he was announced it with it was a
Speaker 1: gc DOUBLEW show he was announced for in late January,
Speaker 1: and he's clearly returning to a W before GCW, and
Speaker 1: most likely he was supposed to be wrestling for the
Speaker 1: world title on this show. Uh So I would not
Speaker 1: be the least bit surprised if if Hangman Page ended
Speaker 1: up winning the match and then the feud with Moxley
Speaker 1: begins there. But I mean, there's a million things that
Speaker 1: they could do. We got Luca Brothers, Jurassic Express for
Speaker 1: the titles. James just throw and here one thing real
Speaker 1: quick on that because I don't know, I'll have to
Speaker 1: double check to see. I don't think that was announced.
Speaker 1: What was announced was that when Homicide one the number
Speaker 1: one contendership rumbled that they had he is going to
Speaker 1: get the next shot. It's just everyone's assumption that because
Speaker 1: they're going to Hammerstein in January that if Moxley, if
Speaker 1: Moxley is ready, why would you not have a Moxley
Speaker 1: match against Homicide and have the g c W world
Speaker 1: title match then? So I think people are leaning into that,
Speaker 1: but I mean, I mean, I have no idea what
Speaker 1: the status of John's Moxley is if he's impatient, I
Speaker 1: have no idea. So I think I think people maybe
Speaker 1: just taking that and going, well, he's got to be
Speaker 1: back soon, right, He's gonna be back there. And I
Speaker 1: don't know if that's necessarily the case, because, like you mentioned,
Speaker 1: there are a lot of people saying once he come
Speaker 1: to come back to a w and he would have
Speaker 1: to quote unquote have to do that first. It would
Speaker 1: just make more sense. We've got Jake Cargill Ruby Soho
Speaker 1: for the TBS title Malichi Black, Ryan Pillman Jr. MGF
Speaker 1: versus t b A Chris Jericho appears. There will be
Speaker 1: no Young Bucks on the show because Matt and Brandon
Speaker 1: Cutler both got COVID several days ago. I was told
Speaker 1: that Matt feels much much better today, and I believe
Speaker 1: Brandon does as well. Nick Jackson obviously he was, you know,
Speaker 1: spending a lot of time with his brother and so,
Speaker 1: uh he was quarantined, but I don't think that he
Speaker 1: got it. Uh. So I would presume that they will
Speaker 1: be good to go for next week's show, but they
Speaker 1: will not be there for tonight's show. And this was
Speaker 1: not a situation where they flew out there and they
Speaker 1: discovered that they had COVID there and so potentially other members.
Speaker 1: This was all stuff in California and they've just been
Speaker 1: at home for the last several days. So that's the
Speaker 1: update on the Jackson's and Brandon Cutler. Hopefully everything means uh,
Speaker 1: everybody's good. Soon moved towards as we moved towards the
Speaker 1: end of the week here two before you mentioned Kalisto
Speaker 1: Roman Reigns, you know, they did mention that teases if
Speaker 1: he's gonna be ready for Friday or not. Now we're
Speaker 1: already on Wednesday. It is gonna be interesting to see
Speaker 1: if he actually does show up in Lesner sees him
Speaker 1: on SmackDown. So Kalisto noted on Instagram that the virus
Speaker 1: nearly ended him. He said he was hospitalized the entire
Speaker 1: month of August, nearly had two heart attacks in addition
Speaker 1: to the virus and a stomach ulcer, adding that he
Speaker 1: quote only had a day to prepare for my return
Speaker 1: on TV, which was his SmackDown match. Was a sorrow,
Speaker 1: he says, beyond my belief. I thought I never get
Speaker 1: this bad, but I took that as a sign. Really
Speaker 1: trained hard, rolled the dice and Luca two is all.
Speaker 1: I focus on Luca always like there's no tomorrow, he wrote,
Speaker 1: so he got it bad. And then Tony Khan's dream signing.
Speaker 1: I don't know who it is, but he says there
Speaker 1: is a dream signing that is coming quote pretty soon
Speaker 1: to a w SO back in a moment, we'll talk,
Speaker 1: braun Breaker, take your feedback, Tokyo Dome, whatever else you
Speaker 1: want to get into. Back in a moment, as you
Speaker 1: rely sometimes love back of the show. Brian ober is
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Speaker 1: NXT two point Out champion now beat Tamasa. Chomping match
Speaker 1: was really good. Chomp is awesome. Braun Breaker is impossibly good.
Speaker 1: Given his uh fifteen career matches, I think he's at
Speaker 1: right now. He uh got the win with the Rick
Speaker 1: Steiner Bulldog off the middle rope, followed by the Scott
Speaker 1: Steiner Steiner recliner clean submission over Tomaso Champa or Frankensteiner's
Speaker 1: in this match. You don't you know what? Uh? I
Speaker 1: don't you guys know that I like this braun Breaker.
Speaker 1: But you know I really like about this run Breaker
Speaker 1: is he has a great sympathetic face. Like if you
Speaker 1: see the guy, he's like a big tough guy, big
Speaker 1: mean looking tough guy. And sometimes we have a big,
Speaker 1: mean looking tough guy, let's say Goldberg for example. Goldberg,
Speaker 1: he never has like the sympathetic face where when he's selling,
Speaker 1: you know, he's got that that look on his face.
Speaker 1: We're like, oh, man, this poor guy. He he sells
Speaker 1: like a like an animal that's been injured. That's what
Speaker 1: Goldberg does. And a lot of these these big mean dudes, Uh,
Speaker 1: they have the same sort of deal. But man, this
Speaker 1: broun Breaker, when that guy is selling, I mean he's
Speaker 1: got this look of sadness and pain on his face
Speaker 1: where it's like, man, this guy, this guy is gonna
Speaker 1: get some sympathy. And he did a great job in
Speaker 1: this match. Chomp as out of this world, Broun Breakers
Speaker 1: your new champion. And uh, I thought it was a
Speaker 1: very very good main event. The they didn't do aj
Speaker 1: styles and uh and what's his face grace? Yeah, it
Speaker 1: was listed on the lineup and then they just didn't
Speaker 1: do it. I guess he's one of those things where
Speaker 1: they know they showed the show and they thought, wait
Speaker 1: a second, we have a show next week. I thought
Speaker 1: about that. I hadn't thought that we had to do
Speaker 1: another show in a week and switch one of the matches.
Speaker 1: So it's aj Styles, Grace and Waller next week on
Speaker 1: the next T and also Zion Quinn and Santos Escobar
Speaker 1: watching take place on Raw. Watch him watch Waller come
Speaker 1: out or a j come out and go. You know what?
Speaker 1: I demand he come out here and I faced him
Speaker 1: tonight on Raw. Yeah, we got Zion Quinn, Santos Escobar
Speaker 1: where what's her name is going to leave with the winner.
Speaker 1: The storyline is just so stupid. Boa versus Solo Sakoa.
Speaker 1: We have got a Marii Miller, Casey Caton Zoro and
Speaker 1: Caden Carter versus Persia Paratta, Indie Heartwell and Wendy Chew.
Speaker 1: Wendy Chew is a former thousand year old lady. She's
Speaker 1: got a new gimmick now. Her gimmick is that she
Speaker 1: wears her pajamas everywhere and sleeps backstage. That one. You
Speaker 1: guys are watching n x T two point oh, change
Speaker 1: your plans, set your DVR, and then Pete Dunn and
Speaker 1: Tony D'Angelo are having a crowbar on a pole match.
Speaker 1: I'm not making any of this up. That's the line
Speaker 1: up for next week on the next t Look at
Speaker 1: me smiling thinking about this. Ridiculous. So anyway, the opener
Speaker 1: on the show was Carmelo Hayes versus Roderick Strong. It
Speaker 1: was a unification match for the Cruiserweight and North American championships,
Speaker 1: and Carmelo Hayes won, so he's a unified champion. I
Speaker 1: presumed they're just gonna get rid of the cruiseweight title
Speaker 1: the match. It's weird because like I was watching the match,
Speaker 1: and I've gotten reports of the show was bad until
Speaker 1: the main event, and I was watching Carmelo Hayes and
Speaker 1: Roger Strong. It was not bad. It was like a
Speaker 1: good match. It's like a really good match. And then
Speaker 1: when it was over, the announced was talking about how
Speaker 1: it's the first classic match of of two and then
Speaker 1: like hit me that it wasn't that good. I's fine,
Speaker 1: there's nothing wrong with it, but it's just like a
Speaker 1: good match. You know. Roderick Strong's great. Carmelo Hazed a
Speaker 1: lot of he does a lot of cool stuff. But
Speaker 1: it was just like more he did cool stuff as
Speaker 1: opposed to, hey, we're gonna put this cool stuff into
Speaker 1: like a really great match. Nothing wrong with it, it
Speaker 1: was it was fine. We add the h Riddle and
Speaker 1: ms ca versus Imperium match, which very very good match.
Speaker 1: I mean everyone in this match is great, and Walter
Speaker 1: was in there just chopping the hell out of people. Actually,
Speaker 1: the real marking out was for the chops in the
Speaker 1: in the opening match with Carmelo and Roderick Strong. I mean,
Speaker 1: those guys were chopping each other. The fans on this
Speaker 1: show were great. I mean, there was like former people
Speaker 1: or whatever in the building, but they were hot for
Speaker 1: this show. And man, they're throwing chops in the opener,
Speaker 1: and there's these grown men in the crowd. They're clutching there,
Speaker 1: these chip ups. And of course then when Volter got
Speaker 1: into started chopping dudes, they sold for that as well.
Speaker 1: These fans sold great, better than Omas, I might add.
Speaker 1: But they had a good match, and then Riddle actually
Speaker 1: uh pinned Bartel so Imperium with the return of Vaulter.
Speaker 1: They actually lost, but it was a very very good match.
Speaker 1: Electoral Lopez is her name, She says next week, it's
Speaker 1: Zion Quinn Santos Escobar. Even though Zion Quinn said she
Speaker 1: needed to give him an answer last week or else, Well,
Speaker 1: she'll give him the answer next week. She's leaving with
Speaker 1: the winner. There you go, Manny Rose, Cora Jade and
Speaker 1: Raquel Gonzalez. I mean, I wouldn't say the match was bad,
Speaker 1: but if you're one of those folks that just like
Speaker 1: you think Cora Jade is great and they should do
Speaker 1: something with his twenty year old, well, bro, you know
Speaker 1: what you're watching. So there is three way and Uh.
Speaker 1: At the end of the match, Cora Jade UH tosses
Speaker 1: Uh Gonzalez outside. She's alone in the ring with Mandy Rose,
Speaker 1: who has been laid out. Cora Jade gets a smirk
Speaker 1: on her face, like, man I got this one, and
Speaker 1: she goes over there and she gets her cradle reversed
Speaker 1: and she's pinned clean in the middle of the ring
Speaker 1: by Mandy Rose. It's like, of course, she was so
Speaker 1: Mandy Rose the heel. Mandy Rose the Heel went in
Speaker 1: there and she she convinced both baby faces to fight
Speaker 1: each other. They fight each other, leading to a match
Speaker 1: where she outsmarts both of them. And she cleanly pins
Speaker 1: Cora Jade because they don't know how to book a
Speaker 1: baby face to save their lives. And then there was
Speaker 1: some other stuff as well, but yeah, the main event
Speaker 1: was highlighted the show brun Breaker, I mean beer money.
Speaker 1: She just give me his money now because like he's
Speaker 1: losing this beat I mean brun Breakers. He's a future
Speaker 1: superstar on the main roster. It's like he's got those genetics. Man,
Speaker 1: he really does. And I I know him all old,
Speaker 1: but thirty five years ago, you know his father winning
Speaker 1: the TV title and I just remember a big goofy
Speaker 1: Rick Steiner given the interview afftert he beats Mike Rotundo
Speaker 1: for the TV title, A big childlike figure. And that's
Speaker 1: one thing, even though people don't think of him this
Speaker 1: way because of where he you know, what he looked
Speaker 1: like in the n b O days and what his
Speaker 1: reputation is. I mean, Rick Steiner had that kind of
Speaker 1: face too, that confused, goofy face. He can make a
Speaker 1: childlike kind of sad face. That's why when he was
Speaker 1: feuding with Kevin Sullivan in the Varsity Club and people
Speaker 1: like that, you could get sympathy on a guy who
Speaker 1: was a killer, a guy who looked like he had
Speaker 1: muscles on muscles because he did. A guy who could
Speaker 1: actually take you and physically rip you apart because they
Speaker 1: knew he had real wrestling skills and credentials. I mean,
Speaker 1: that's what was able to get Rick Steiner over as
Speaker 1: this goofy baby face and Braun has that. The only
Speaker 1: thing that Braun doesn't have is size. And it's crazy
Speaker 1: when you think about braun Breaker and you think about
Speaker 1: this guy the Ravens, and he had this incredible you know,
Speaker 1: thirty bench press whatever it was where they were blown
Speaker 1: his you know, he was blowing everybody's mind because of
Speaker 1: his size. He doesn't have height. And if there's gonna
Speaker 1: be anything that ends up hurting him on the main
Speaker 1: roster would be if there's Braun Breaker and there is
Speaker 1: somebody else who is six six who may not have this,
Speaker 1: but he's got the size that Vince will always kind
Speaker 1: of fall to. That's the only thing I can see
Speaker 1: hurting braun Breaker. But the reality is he's so good,
Speaker 1: he so cares Matt, he's got he's got everything that
Speaker 1: it's gonna be their fault if he doesn't develop because
Speaker 1: there's nothing about him and everything about him, his football career,
Speaker 1: his now his wrestling where he doesn't want to put
Speaker 1: in the effort. He's not gonna do everything he needs
Speaker 1: to do. So if this thing doesn't happen, it's probably
Speaker 1: gonna be because them and I know we say that
Speaker 1: a lot, but this is there's a real big shining
Speaker 1: light on this. If they screw up Rick Steiner's kid
Speaker 1: development wise, that's uh, that's pretty sad. Dude. He's got
Speaker 1: a big, thick physique. He's taller than Curt Angle was.
Speaker 1: He's miles better than Grayson Waller. He's miles better than
Speaker 1: who are the other dudes here that they push Von Wagner.
Speaker 1: He's miles beyond And I won't say better than Carmelo
Speaker 1: because I think Carmelo has got a different star power
Speaker 1: and I think you know too, he will go significantly
Speaker 1: farther than Carmelo and he absolutely will. Yeah, he he will.
Speaker 1: But you know, as far as the new people that
Speaker 1: they're pushing, yeah, I mean, you know, experience aside, he
Speaker 1: really is at the top of the list because of
Speaker 1: everything else. And you know, just to bring this up
Speaker 1: to because I've talked about Santos Escobar and would love
Speaker 1: to see him out of there if they're not going
Speaker 1: to use him on the main ross from the Bitch
Speaker 1: and moan and mine about not having any Latino stars
Speaker 1: who can speak great English, Well, you know, he's another guy.
Speaker 1: Why isn't he there? Because of his size? He's too short.
Speaker 1: It's so incredibly stupid. But Imperium Bartel and Eichner, and
Speaker 1: I know everybody loves Walter, and Walter's reputation is what
Speaker 1: it is, Man Bartel and Eichner. Everybody who's talks about
Speaker 1: what I wonder what the Uskos could look like, you know,
Speaker 1: uncuffed outside of the w W E element. I think
Speaker 1: the same thing about Imperium all the time. I think
Speaker 1: they're fantastic. You look at teams like the Briscoes and
Speaker 1: FTR who might be getting together, and you look at
Speaker 1: what can happen because of the landscape we're in right now,
Speaker 1: and I look at Imperium and go, damn. I'd love
Speaker 1: to see them against a lot of tag teams out there,
Speaker 1: whether it be the Young Bucks FTR, I don't care
Speaker 1: who it is. I'd love to see him work. Rick
Speaker 1: Steiner was there, celebrated with his son afterwards. That was
Speaker 1: a Digital Exclusive. They didn't even put that on the show.
Speaker 1: They can't call him Steiner, but it's like, I mean,
Speaker 1: they tell you multiple times every time he's out there
Speaker 1: that he is he is Rick Steiner's. He is a
Speaker 1: dog faced gremlin, un faced gremlin. He does all their
Speaker 1: moves and awesome franken Steiner in this match. You know
Speaker 1: it's gonn make people mad. It is. Frankensteiner is better
Speaker 1: than Scott's. Bro. I've been watching Scott's Frankensteiner. I literally
Speaker 1: watched it yesterday on because we're watching all of the
Speaker 1: old ros and Scott's is great in the crowd Pops
Speaker 1: Big Four because they haven't seen it before. But like
Speaker 1: he does not landing on his head and his shoulder
Speaker 1: like Scott used to do all the time, So well
Speaker 1: that's he was never Yeah, there was the difference between
Speaker 1: what was the difference between the Hurricane Rona and the
Speaker 1: Frankensteiner because Scott lan on his neck and not like
Speaker 1: I don't know how he didn't break his neck. A
Speaker 1: couple of times. I just saw a clip not all
Speaker 1: that long ago about a guy who didn't go over
Speaker 1: and in Scott how he didn't break his neck at
Speaker 1: the angle that he was at and how he didn't
Speaker 1: actually be He had cocked his fist, but he didn't
Speaker 1: beat the hell out of the guy, and it was
Speaker 1: a miracle. He probably did backstage and probably deserved to. Alrighty,
Speaker 1: let's look at some of the feedback here. What is
Speaker 1: everyone talking about other than they want to quit? Because
Speaker 1: I had the temerity to say it a bit of
Speaker 1: Frankensteiner than Scott. Oh what im I say? It's not
Speaker 1: a raymisterious, A bit of Frankstiner than Scott singna quit
Speaker 1: for that one as well anything else. Ghetto could book
Speaker 1: a better one, probably right. This person here says if
Speaker 1: w W we were smart, they would have braun Breaker
Speaker 1: win the Royal Rumbull Challenge Roman Reigns for the title
Speaker 1: at Mania and dethrone him. They'd make a star in
Speaker 1: three months. Well, as much as i'd like to see that,
Speaker 1: to win my thousand dollars quickly, I think can happen.
Speaker 1: I think Paul Fontaine here says, listening to you talking
Speaker 1: about the match before you saw it, here's what I
Speaker 1: posted to our Facebook group. I don't think it was
Speaker 1: possible for he should have anything other than an excellent
Speaker 1: singles match, but holy smokes, evil Dick, Togo and the
Speaker 1: horse they wrote in on I can't even read half
Speaker 1: of this. There's so much profanity. But anyway, Paul didn't
Speaker 1: like it either, nor should he because in fact we're
Speaker 1: talking about this yesterday, want to you didn't want to
Speaker 1: hear any of it like that rational, nuanced conversation about
Speaker 1: everything that you mentioned being really going back to this, No,
Speaker 1: I don't think that the ghetto should be removed for
Speaker 1: bad match with she, but it was a bad man
Speaker 1: mentioned about those those things about house of torture and
Speaker 1: all that sort of stuff. Look, j White is going
Speaker 1: to get back. That's gonna be great. Chris Bay is
Speaker 1: going to make his debut as a member of probably
Speaker 1: the Boy Club in New Japan. I can't wait for
Speaker 1: that because I really like Chris Bay and everything. But
Speaker 1: you know, it's whether these coming guys come back and
Speaker 1: are they doing the same old thing, And yeah, it's
Speaker 1: gonna be some sav on the wound to be able
Speaker 1: to see Okada and you know, you name the American
Speaker 1: or the American that you want Tanahashi to face or
Speaker 1: any of that sort of stuff. But hopefully they have
Speaker 1: learned from a lot of this and from the stark
Speaker 1: way that things don't get over with the fans that
Speaker 1: are there and maybe look for changing some things before
Speaker 1: it does get worse. That's all I'm saying. Road Doug
Speaker 1: is gone. Matt Striker also put out a tweet and
Speaker 1: later deleted its, stating he has done with Impact. It's
Speaker 1: unrelated obviously an x T fire rings, but were after
Speaker 1: the breakups ever Live back in the show. Bright Over
Speaker 1: is here Wrestling Observer Live. Mike nimber Vid also Wrestling
Speaker 1: Observer dot Com. This guy's got a great idea, but
Speaker 1: I don't think it's gonna happen. The judges tonight should
Speaker 1: beat Jericho, Omega and Moxley, the former champions, but I
Speaker 1: don't think they're bringing Omega back. They're doing a long
Speaker 1: term storyline with him, So I don't think that's gonna
Speaker 1: be who it's gonna be. Judge Jeff Jones, you go
Speaker 1: in house, Jerry Lynde Malenco or do you go, uh,
Speaker 1: you do something different because some of those guys were
Speaker 1: in with the Dustin Dusty or Cody thing, weren't they. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know how many times Beer Money has been told
Speaker 1: that I'm not affort double video and he just keeps
Speaker 1: it up. Is it that hard to read the chat?
Speaker 1: You know you can read it. By the way, A
Speaker 1: lot of talk about beach break being in Cleveland in
Speaker 1: the winter, so a lot of people have presumed that
Speaker 1: means Johnny Gargano was debuting take on the Lake Listen.
Speaker 1: Maybe he is. I don't know. I've absolutely no idea
Speaker 1: what Johnny Gargana was doing, but I do know that
Speaker 1: there's another a W star who is from Cleveland, and
Speaker 1: that is Wardlow, and they have been building up a
Speaker 1: Wardlow split for a while, and so I certainly would
Speaker 1: not would it beyond them to book Cleveland, to pull
Speaker 1: the trigger on that angle, splitting him from m JF
Speaker 1: and doing whatever they're doing with MGF punk Ward Low
Speaker 1: and etcetera, etcetera. So I guess we'll find out, but
Speaker 1: they want to throw that out there. And yes, last thing,
Speaker 1: I will be doing a prediction show sometime soon. I'm
Speaker 1: not sure when, I'm pretty sure I want anyway. So
Speaker 1: I mean that kind of takes my award here. I
Speaker 1: got a major award here that shows off my my
Speaker 1: excellence in my incredible mental capacities. Where is it it's
Speaker 1: over there, said, Oh I got this. Don't get out
Speaker 1: of here. We're out of time. Everybody want to thank
Speaker 1: all for listening here today. Mike is always I guess
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