WEBVTT - Enough is Enough 0:00:00.080 --> 0:00:13.240 Yeah, that's how we go. Hi. I'm Jamaica d Mallory 0:00:13.400 --> 0:00:16.720 and I'm so And this is street Politicians, the place 0:00:16.800 --> 0:00:20.840 where the streets and politics meet. We're in Kentucky, We're 0:00:20.880 --> 0:00:24.720 living in Louisville, fighting for Brianna Taylor. You all know 0:00:25.600 --> 0:00:30.440 from being our trusted and faithful friends, followers, and supporters 0:00:30.800 --> 0:00:33.479 that we have been fighting for Brianna Taylor for the 0:00:33.560 --> 0:00:37.720 last several months. We found out in late May that 0:00:37.840 --> 0:00:41.320 this young sister had been killed in her home on 0:00:41.520 --> 0:00:45.080 March thirteenth, And when you look into the details, there 0:00:45.159 --> 0:00:49.800 is absolutely no justification for why police officers showed up 0:00:49.800 --> 0:00:52.120 at her home in the middle of the night, were 0:00:52.360 --> 0:00:57.280 unwilling to announce themselves and to explain to Kenny Walker, 0:00:57.360 --> 0:01:00.560 her boyfriend, and Brianna Taylor who was on the other 0:01:00.600 --> 0:01:04.360 side of the door, and why and therefore she was killed. 0:01:04.680 --> 0:01:07.160 H And we have been standing with her family, her 0:01:07.200 --> 0:01:10.479 mother to make a palmer, her entire family, her sister, 0:01:10.600 --> 0:01:15.280 Jenia and others really really trying to find a way 0:01:15.959 --> 0:01:20.200 that pushes the leadership not just in Louisville, but in 0:01:20.240 --> 0:01:24.640 the state of Kentucky overall to ensure justice for Brianna 0:01:24.720 --> 0:01:27.880 Taylor and so living here in Louisville has been quite 0:01:27.880 --> 0:01:31.319 an experience. Later in the show, we're gonna be talking 0:01:31.360 --> 0:01:34.560 to our co founders about the decision that we made 0:01:34.840 --> 0:01:37.559 to come and live in Louisville and what it has 0:01:37.640 --> 0:01:42.000 really been like to be humble enough to enter another 0:01:42.760 --> 0:01:46.080 community where we're not known and try to make sure 0:01:46.160 --> 0:01:49.800 that we're actually being good neighbors. It's been quite an experience. 0:01:49.840 --> 0:01:52.560 It's been quite an experience. Man. We shout out to 0:01:52.600 --> 0:01:57.000 the whole Louisville. They have definitely showed us love. Um, 0:01:57.120 --> 0:02:01.280 we've been organizing, We've been going to the community, going 0:02:01.320 --> 0:02:05.680 to the most marginalized community, giving our resources, just building community, 0:02:05.840 --> 0:02:09.440 you know, just understanding what this community needs. You know, 0:02:09.480 --> 0:02:12.079 it's not just Brianna Taylor here. I know, Brianna Taylor 0:02:12.200 --> 0:02:15.000 is the main focus that we talked about, but there's 0:02:15.040 --> 0:02:17.240 so much going on in a little you know, a 0:02:17.240 --> 0:02:20.239 few days ago we found out a three year old 0:02:20.240 --> 0:02:23.400 girl was shot a few days when we first moved 0:02:23.520 --> 0:02:25.600 the first more and you know, we found out she 0:02:25.680 --> 0:02:28.280 was killed and her father was killed. And you know, 0:02:28.560 --> 0:02:31.960 you go to the communities, there's food deserts here. You know, 0:02:32.200 --> 0:02:35.600 violence is rampant on poverty is rampant here, you know, 0:02:35.720 --> 0:02:37.280 and that, but there are a lot of people on 0:02:37.360 --> 0:02:39.560 the ground that really are doing the work, you know, 0:02:39.639 --> 0:02:41.720 so we want to We wanted to come here and 0:02:41.800 --> 0:02:44.720 uplift what they're doing. We want to uplift their voices. 0:02:44.800 --> 0:02:48.520 We wanted to uplift be Brianna Taylor's case, you know, 0:02:48.639 --> 0:02:51.399 and bring some light to that. So just moving here 0:02:51.440 --> 0:02:54.320 seemed like the best thing to do because you decided 0:02:54.720 --> 0:02:56.800 that we needed to do it. But you know, in 0:02:56.800 --> 0:02:59.120 the hindsight, when you look back and look at how 0:02:59.240 --> 0:03:02.400 we built with this community, how we started to create 0:03:02.400 --> 0:03:05.520 a family. You know, we did Brianna Khan, which we 0:03:05.639 --> 0:03:10.519 definitely received flat full, but the community loved it. Yeah. Well, 0:03:10.520 --> 0:03:12.600 when you say we received flat there were people on 0:03:12.639 --> 0:03:17.360 social media and some media outlets who really were trying 0:03:17.520 --> 0:03:23.600 to challenge our uh sincerity and we're trying to challenge 0:03:24.160 --> 0:03:27.200 what Brianna Khan meant and they said we were trying 0:03:27.200 --> 0:03:31.320 to benefit from for the conference. And I think what 0:03:31.520 --> 0:03:34.560 happened was that people didn't know at the time that 0:03:34.639 --> 0:03:37.600 it was a free conference. They had no idea. So 0:03:37.720 --> 0:03:40.040 I think once they figured that out, then it became 0:03:40.120 --> 0:03:44.720 oh well, still the language, um is you know, it's 0:03:44.760 --> 0:03:48.360 not it's harmful to Brianna's name into this fight. And 0:03:48.400 --> 0:03:50.960 then and her family wasn't involved. And then they found 0:03:50.960 --> 0:03:53.040 out the family was involved and they were like wow, 0:03:53.160 --> 0:03:55.880 but still like it just people were just looking forward. 0:03:56.080 --> 0:03:58.240 What I'm saying, it was conflict and it was you know, 0:03:58.320 --> 0:04:01.440 people gave us flak about it, but ultimately, you know, 0:04:01.560 --> 0:04:04.160 every day of the four days that we had something 0:04:04.240 --> 0:04:07.720 for Brihanna com was life changing. You know. You had 0:04:07.720 --> 0:04:11.160 a women empowerment event in which all the women who 0:04:11.280 --> 0:04:13.640 I've seen left there talked about how they were empowered 0:04:13.680 --> 0:04:17.440 and motivated to to bring people in, to communicate with 0:04:17.440 --> 0:04:20.280 people they haven't communicated, and what to do things they 0:04:20.320 --> 0:04:24.520 haven't normally done. Um. We had a men's event Brothers 0:04:24.520 --> 0:04:27.600 for Brihanna, and we sat there and talked about how 0:04:27.600 --> 0:04:29.920 we need to show up for women in this time, 0:04:29.960 --> 0:04:31.800 how we need to protect our women, how we need 0:04:31.839 --> 0:04:34.440 to you know, allow them to lead, to stand by 0:04:34.480 --> 0:04:36.640 to protect them, how we need to just show up 0:04:36.920 --> 0:04:39.920 in this time. And it was really powerful. And you know, 0:04:40.080 --> 0:04:42.800 then there was the Bribe Que, which was the barbecue 0:04:42.839 --> 0:04:46.039 that we named after Brihanna, in which we had performance 0:04:46.080 --> 0:04:49.360 to shout out to Rapsody, my boy Tray, you know, 0:04:49.600 --> 0:04:52.560 um other local artists who came and did an amazing job. 0:04:53.200 --> 0:04:55.800 And you know, and that was one of those lightening 0:04:55.839 --> 0:04:59.760 moments where you've seen people. We had food and giveaway 0:05:00.000 --> 0:05:01.919 people just had a good time. And then and we 0:05:01.960 --> 0:05:05.560 supported many black business, many black businesses that day. You know, 0:05:05.640 --> 0:05:08.520 every business did that we support. It was a black business. 0:05:08.680 --> 0:05:12.120 We gave away everything. Then there was the revival which 0:05:12.480 --> 0:05:16.920 we have faith leaders and preachers come give us words 0:05:16.920 --> 0:05:19.120 like I was full, you know. And then we did 0:05:19.120 --> 0:05:21.200 the Day of Action in which, well you missed a 0:05:21.240 --> 0:05:26.280 press conference where the FACI police came together. Families who 0:05:26.480 --> 0:05:29.680 um have had loved ones as victims of police brutality 0:05:29.800 --> 0:05:34.159 or white vigilante violence came together to stand up with 0:05:34.400 --> 0:05:38.760 and for Brianna Taylor's family and specifically pushing for Brianna's law, 0:05:39.080 --> 0:05:42.240 which would ban no knock warrants. And we know that 0:05:42.360 --> 0:05:44.720 the no knock warrant is at the center of how 0:05:44.800 --> 0:05:48.480 Brihanna was killed and how police officers were even allowed 0:05:48.560 --> 0:05:51.680 to go to her home that evening. UM and so 0:05:51.880 --> 0:05:55.240 the entire conference, it was very full. I think that 0:05:55.400 --> 0:05:59.360 what we ended up doing was using Brianna Cohan and 0:05:59.400 --> 0:06:03.680 a name that may have been to some people sensationalized, 0:06:03.760 --> 0:06:06.719 if you will, and we use it as an opportunity 0:06:06.800 --> 0:06:11.280 to at every juncture of the conference introduced Brianna and 0:06:11.360 --> 0:06:16.440 all the elements of her case to different audiences, and 0:06:16.560 --> 0:06:19.480 the different elements of her case and the different elements 0:06:19.520 --> 0:06:22.840 of her interests, things that she actually was interested in 0:06:22.960 --> 0:06:27.280 based upon her family and uh, the issues that are 0:06:27.400 --> 0:06:30.520 happening just in society in general. I think at every 0:06:30.560 --> 0:06:35.320 single moment it empowered people or gave people the information 0:06:35.320 --> 0:06:37.560 that they need to go into their communities and do 0:06:37.760 --> 0:06:41.680 real work, substantive work to make substantive changes and differences 0:06:41.720 --> 0:06:46.240 within themselves. UM. And I saw people at the Tuesday actions. 0:06:46.240 --> 0:06:49.920 So we started on Saturday, UM with the empowerment events, 0:06:50.240 --> 0:06:53.640 and then Sunday, like you said, with the brebeque. Monday 0:06:53.720 --> 0:06:56.560 was a policy day when it was more about you know, 0:06:56.640 --> 0:07:00.080 people talking about Brianna's law and other important initiatve to 0:07:00.160 --> 0:07:03.760 its happening happening across the state of Kentucky. UM. And 0:07:03.800 --> 0:07:06.760 then on Tuesday we did our actual protests with which 0:07:06.800 --> 0:07:09.760 we are most known for and I saw people who 0:07:09.840 --> 0:07:12.680 showed up that said, listen, I came on Saturday. I'm 0:07:12.720 --> 0:07:15.320 not really involved in the movement. This is not something 0:07:15.360 --> 0:07:18.200 that I usually would do. But after being with you 0:07:18.240 --> 0:07:22.480 all in space on Saturday, I found, you know, I 0:07:22.560 --> 0:07:26.360 found a way to get involved. And I think you know, 0:07:26.480 --> 0:07:31.520 for me, Um, what we know is that everyone is 0:07:31.560 --> 0:07:34.240 not going to be a part of the movement regardless, 0:07:34.840 --> 0:07:37.080 but that there are some people that just need an 0:07:37.200 --> 0:07:40.040 entry point. They need something that helps them, like to 0:07:40.160 --> 0:07:43.360 realize that, Okay, I don't have to be a church 0:07:43.520 --> 0:07:49.720 going you know, um, you know, super super righteous individual 0:07:49.880 --> 0:07:52.320 to to also be able to stand up for justice. 0:07:52.600 --> 0:07:55.480 And perhaps I can move closer to some of those things, 0:07:55.720 --> 0:07:58.000 but I don't have to start there exactly. And that's 0:07:58.000 --> 0:07:59.560 what and that's what it is. I think that's what 0:07:59.600 --> 0:08:02.480 we do until Freedom. I think that was one of 0:08:02.520 --> 0:08:06.520 the mind states that we had behind creating unto Freedom, 0:08:06.680 --> 0:08:09.880 is that we realized that the movement didn't look inviting 0:08:09.960 --> 0:08:12.760 to everyone. You know, a lot of people didn't see space, 0:08:12.800 --> 0:08:15.960 they didn't see themselves in a lot of different organizations, 0:08:15.960 --> 0:08:19.480 and a lot of these legacy organizations, though doing amazing work, 0:08:19.960 --> 0:08:23.160 it just doesn't seem like people see themselves in it. 0:08:23.360 --> 0:08:25.480 You know. I remember when I first got into the movement, 0:08:25.520 --> 0:08:27.760 I didn't see myself, you know, the reason I was 0:08:28.000 --> 0:08:31.560 invited in by you guys, But I never saw myself 0:08:31.640 --> 0:08:33.880 in the movement. I just integrated into it, but I 0:08:33.920 --> 0:08:36.160 never really saw myself. I never feel like there was 0:08:36.200 --> 0:08:38.440 space for me. And I started to create my own space. 0:08:38.480 --> 0:08:40.840 And as I created my space and it, you know, 0:08:40.920 --> 0:08:45.560 I realized that there was a need for organization for 0:08:45.600 --> 0:08:48.120 people who just saw themselves and not having to force 0:08:48.160 --> 0:08:51.199 yourself and create a space and having to look different 0:08:51.240 --> 0:08:54.320 and you know, being anomaly. I wanted what I do 0:08:54.559 --> 0:08:57.240 to seem regular, you know. And I think that was 0:08:57.320 --> 0:08:59.600 part of what we did when we created Until Freedom, 0:08:59.600 --> 0:09:02.160 and I think that's what we did this weekend with 0:09:02.240 --> 0:09:05.040 the Brier Q and how we've been organizing here, and 0:09:05.080 --> 0:09:07.560 I think it's been a lot successful, you know, hopefully, 0:09:07.920 --> 0:09:10.920 you know, we received some level of justice, you know, 0:09:10.960 --> 0:09:13.280 but if not, we're still fighting here and we're building 0:09:13.280 --> 0:09:16.880 an infrastructure. We're building up, and we're building up a 0:09:16.920 --> 0:09:19.719 lot of these grassroots organizers who are brilliant, who've been 0:09:19.760 --> 0:09:22.920 doing this work, who've been tired like we created something 0:09:23.320 --> 0:09:26.720 that replenished energy inside of the town. And I think 0:09:26.800 --> 0:09:28.880 the people not just inside the town, because we bought 0:09:28.920 --> 0:09:31.439 a lot of people in with us who have actually 0:09:31.440 --> 0:09:35.960 been living with us in Louisville, UM, that have that also. 0:09:36.200 --> 0:09:38.120 They had things going on in their own towns, but 0:09:38.160 --> 0:09:40.640 they needed the replenishment as well. And you know, I 0:09:40.679 --> 0:09:45.000 think we've built sort of a camaraderie a family by 0:09:45.040 --> 0:09:48.480 having people living actually together, rather than living in hotel 0:09:48.559 --> 0:09:51.480 rooms where there's a wall between you, but actually sharing 0:09:51.559 --> 0:09:56.079 common space, having dinner together every night, having brunched together 0:09:56.160 --> 0:10:00.040 every day, UM, and having these conversations and allo so 0:10:00.240 --> 0:10:02.920 working on a project together. In two weeks, we worked 0:10:03.000 --> 0:10:08.360 together twenty five people on building Brianna Cohn and throughout 0:10:08.480 --> 0:10:12.280 the process, UM, I feel like people they have they 0:10:12.280 --> 0:10:15.760 have tested their skills, they have stretched their bounds. There's 0:10:15.760 --> 0:10:19.000 so much to itself and we learned so much from 0:10:19.000 --> 0:10:20.959 each other because I certainly have learned a lot, and 0:10:21.000 --> 0:10:23.920 I think I also have found myself teaching, teaching and 0:10:24.000 --> 0:10:27.200 learning at the table. So soon we're gonna be joined 0:10:27.200 --> 0:10:32.199 by Lindas Ursur and uh Angelo Penzo, our profounders, to 0:10:32.240 --> 0:10:37.679 talk about their experience with um this entire living in Louisville, 0:10:37.720 --> 0:10:43.400 fighting for Brianna Taylor, justice for Brianna Taylor situation and effort. 0:10:44.120 --> 0:10:49.599 But you know, now Lord Chadwick uh Bozeman has passed away, 0:10:49.679 --> 0:10:54.400 which is so traumatizing. I mean, it's traumatizing for so 0:10:54.440 --> 0:10:57.400 many reasons. It's traumatizing because he's a young black man. 0:10:57.880 --> 0:11:00.400 So even if he had been, like, you know, just 0:11:00.440 --> 0:11:03.960 a regular guy. You heard about him dying, it would 0:11:04.000 --> 0:11:08.520 be traumatizing because cancer sucks, which we know, UM. But 0:11:08.640 --> 0:11:11.080 then just to see how much he's actually done for 0:11:11.120 --> 0:11:13.920 the culture and the short period of time that I 0:11:14.080 --> 0:11:17.840 know him, Like, I'm sure others have been acquainted with 0:11:17.920 --> 0:11:20.199 him for a longer period of time, but for me, 0:11:20.600 --> 0:11:24.160 I came into contact with him a little bit before 0:11:24.240 --> 0:11:27.080 Black Panther. I can't remember exactly what the movie was, 0:11:27.400 --> 0:11:29.440 but I knew he was. And then when Black Panther 0:11:29.559 --> 0:11:32.400 came out, you know, all of us know what that 0:11:32.440 --> 0:11:35.560 movie did. It helped us to see ourselves right, like 0:11:36.040 --> 0:11:38.960 to see the warrior in us and to see what 0:11:39.080 --> 0:11:42.720 real unity could look like, UM, and to know that 0:11:42.800 --> 0:11:45.080 he has he didn't just play a role, but he 0:11:45.160 --> 0:11:48.720 also spoke truth to power you know, he spoke out 0:11:48.760 --> 0:11:53.800 against injustice, UM, and he lended himself to this moment 0:11:53.840 --> 0:11:56.360 in our culture. It's really important. And to find out 0:11:56.400 --> 0:11:58.920 that he passed away, it's like I think we could 0:11:58.960 --> 0:12:02.360 all agree that the ones always go. I think it 0:12:02.520 --> 0:12:06.320 was I think um, like I put on my Instagram today, 0:12:06.360 --> 0:12:08.760 I think he served his purpose like he's sitting he 0:12:08.800 --> 0:12:12.160 was sitting here God sense. And you know the roles 0:12:12.200 --> 0:12:17.240 that he played specifically as the childer Jackie Robinson, Jackie Robinson, 0:12:17.400 --> 0:12:22.040 that he did Jackie Robinson, he was serving Marshall, he 0:12:22.200 --> 0:12:32.920 was James Brown, like he played in intro instrumental parts 0:12:32.960 --> 0:12:36.439 of black people that you know that change history for us. 0:12:36.920 --> 0:12:38.840 And but I think what he did as the childer 0:12:38.880 --> 0:12:41.920 in Wakanda was something that was different. I think he 0:12:42.040 --> 0:12:47.040 made us aspire. He made us believe that this community 0:12:47.040 --> 0:12:49.760 of Black people who are empowered, who are strong, who 0:12:49.800 --> 0:12:53.440 are intelligent, who are not poor, who are not stressed out, 0:12:53.440 --> 0:12:56.839 who live amongst each other and you know, in community 0:12:56.960 --> 0:13:00.280 and love and you know it's possible. You know, he 0:13:00.320 --> 0:13:03.920 made us Wakonda. When we say Wakonda forever, people started 0:13:03.960 --> 0:13:06.800 to identify like Wakonda forever, Like it was a real thing. 0:13:06.800 --> 0:13:09.520 And even though you knew Wakanda was fake, but for 0:13:09.640 --> 0:13:12.040 us it was something to aspire to. It still was 0:13:12.120 --> 0:13:16.040 something I remember, you know, I'm wearing this um dashiki 0:13:16.160 --> 0:13:19.520 right now in remembers of him. And also when my 0:13:20.120 --> 0:13:22.839 gold and purple for Kobe, you know, I said that 0:13:23.000 --> 0:13:26.560 we lost the black Mamba and the Black Panther, you know, 0:13:27.240 --> 0:13:29.760 in the same year, and you know, it just gave 0:13:29.840 --> 0:13:31.600 us something to aspire to. And I remember when I 0:13:31.640 --> 0:13:34.120 went to the movie and I brought my sons, they dashikis, 0:13:34.160 --> 0:13:38.000 and we went to the movies and it was Wakonda 0:13:38.080 --> 0:13:39.640 and we did the thing, and it was just it 0:13:39.760 --> 0:13:41.960 was something that was different about that, you know. And 0:13:42.000 --> 0:13:45.679 I think him losing his life is calling us to say, 0:13:45.880 --> 0:13:49.160 we have to that dream. That picture he painted about 0:13:49.200 --> 0:13:51.520 Wakanda is something that we have to do. We have 0:13:51.640 --> 0:13:53.760 to create that Wakanda for us. So so I think 0:13:54.080 --> 0:13:57.800 it's calling us to our higher mission, you know. So 0:13:57.960 --> 0:14:01.520 R I P the chat with bothness. So let's bring 0:14:01.600 --> 0:14:05.280 Linda and Angelo in and talk about this Kentucky. First 0:14:05.320 --> 0:14:08.240 of all, both of them are just as devastated about Chadwick. 0:14:08.280 --> 0:14:11.079 I mean, just R I P. Like you said, and 0:14:11.120 --> 0:14:12.880 I think we should bring them in to talk about 0:14:12.960 --> 0:14:17.160 this whole experience of being in Kentucky. How we're all exhausted. 0:14:17.320 --> 0:14:20.640 I think last night, when I learned that Chadwick Boseman 0:14:20.760 --> 0:14:24.720 Bozeman passed away, I was like, I am literally exhausted. 0:14:25.120 --> 0:14:29.240 I'm literally exhausted. And some of us are are living 0:14:30.160 --> 0:14:33.640 on the fringes. Uh, and we're living in in a 0:14:33.760 --> 0:14:39.680 space where we're like, this year has done something for us, 0:14:39.760 --> 0:14:45.000 Like it's really been in an awakening year. Um, tragedy 0:14:45.040 --> 0:14:49.360 and triumph, all of it together has just been so 0:14:50.080 --> 0:14:55.160 um moving moving. It's been moving. Yeah, I think you know, 0:14:55.680 --> 0:14:58.080 God makes you uncomfortable where you at, so you can 0:14:58.160 --> 0:15:00.640 have to change, you know what, We make selves and 0:15:00.720 --> 0:15:03.600 comfortable uncomfortable by saying we're gonna go move to a 0:15:03.640 --> 0:15:13.840 place like Louisville. Changes happened. So now we've been joined 0:15:13.880 --> 0:15:19.400 by our friends are co founders Until Freedom, a great 0:15:19.920 --> 0:15:22.600 organization as far as I'm concerned that it's going to 0:15:22.720 --> 0:15:28.800 be one of the absolute most historic movements movement leaders 0:15:28.920 --> 0:15:32.920 of our time. Um, you know we're joined by you all. 0:15:33.040 --> 0:15:39.000 Attorney Angelo Pinto and Linda's our Sword co founders Until 0:15:39.160 --> 0:15:43.440 Freedom founders, our best sees in the culture, in this 0:15:43.680 --> 0:15:47.400 movement um. And we were just talking before you all 0:15:47.480 --> 0:15:51.880 came about how somebody somewhere came up with this great, 0:15:51.960 --> 0:15:55.800 great idea that we needed to move to Kentucky. And 0:15:55.880 --> 0:15:59.040 it's been quite a humbling experience. I mean, for me, 0:15:59.120 --> 0:16:07.320 it's been humbling being being away from our usual Angelo 0:16:08.280 --> 0:16:10.720 what you think, I think, I think it was a 0:16:10.720 --> 0:16:12.960 great idea. I mean, I think in this moment it 0:16:13.000 --> 0:16:16.360 calls for us to do something different, but it comes 0:16:16.360 --> 0:16:20.080 with a tremendous amount of sacrifice. And you know, we 0:16:20.200 --> 0:16:23.680 still haven't gotten to where we need to get. So 0:16:23.720 --> 0:16:26.280 you might be here for longer than we expected. Yeah, 0:16:26.320 --> 0:16:28.720 we might be here longer. So Linda, what do you 0:16:28.760 --> 0:16:32.160 feel about I mean, I've been part of to me 0:16:32.160 --> 0:16:34.520 because crazy ideas for a long time. I mean, I've 0:16:34.560 --> 0:16:37.080 marched from New York City to Washington, d C. For 0:16:37.080 --> 0:16:39.320 two and fifty miles and I've done I've had to 0:16:39.320 --> 0:16:41.360 do a lot of crazy things with Tamaka. And sometimes 0:16:41.360 --> 0:16:44.360 you may not see the vision in the beginning, but 0:16:44.480 --> 0:16:47.400 you know that there's it's something that's going to be powerful, 0:16:47.560 --> 0:16:50.640 and eventually, once you do, you understand the impact that 0:16:50.680 --> 0:16:53.720 it had. So it's crazy. I'm not gonna lie about that, 0:16:53.800 --> 0:16:56.920 but I've had a humbling experience. I feel like we've 0:16:56.960 --> 0:17:00.920 all built really deep relationships, not just with amongst us four, 0:17:01.000 --> 0:17:03.600 but amongst others that you know, are our friends. And 0:17:03.640 --> 0:17:06.639 also just being able to meet people a Louisville. I 0:17:06.680 --> 0:17:08.520 don't know, Louisvill grew on me, like I feel like 0:17:09.000 --> 0:17:19.439 gause when you start saying as in Louisville. But you 0:17:19.480 --> 0:17:22.479 know what, there's a meme that I saw, you know, 0:17:22.560 --> 0:17:26.840 memes of like Bible scriptures at this point that said, 0:17:27.840 --> 0:17:32.400 Noah looked crazy until it started raining. And people think 0:17:32.480 --> 0:17:35.160 that we're like crazy, like, oh, what they moving there for? Then? 0:17:35.160 --> 0:17:39.040 What did they do? Brihanna Cohn? Why was Brianna kN necessary? 0:17:39.080 --> 0:17:42.080 It was a mockery and all of that, um, you 0:17:42.119 --> 0:17:46.320 know was Marcha doesn't mean anything. Marshall means a whole lot. 0:17:46.440 --> 0:17:48.320 But I'm just saying these are the things they say. 0:17:48.440 --> 0:17:54.040 So they so Noah looked crazy until it started raining. 0:17:54.400 --> 0:17:58.800 But Brianna Khan was amazing. Amazing, it really was for me, 0:17:59.400 --> 0:18:02.840 just seeing the unity, just bringing people who normally had 0:18:02.880 --> 0:18:07.760 never been together, you know, just providing resources to the 0:18:07.760 --> 0:18:12.479 community that you know, has been deprived these resources, you know, 0:18:12.600 --> 0:18:15.840 and just seeing just bringing a smile to Brianna Taylor's 0:18:15.840 --> 0:18:19.840 mother's face and the family and you know, her sister 0:18:20.160 --> 0:18:22.800 and the aunts and just seeing them come out and enjoy. 0:18:22.880 --> 0:18:26.200 There's a moment at the briver Que, you know, which 0:18:26.200 --> 0:18:31.159 we got a lot of platform, you know, where there's 0:18:31.200 --> 0:18:34.680 playing Jake, I mean kidding the marks, So we're gonna 0:18:34.680 --> 0:18:37.080 be We're gonna be all right, And she was just 0:18:37.160 --> 0:18:38.760 jumping up and we were just in the middle and 0:18:38.800 --> 0:18:43.240 it was just like, you know, even in the tryingness 0:18:43.240 --> 0:18:45.560 of times as we did with so much pain. I 0:18:45.600 --> 0:18:48.240 know she's dealing with pain, we were able to create 0:18:48.280 --> 0:18:50.920 that moment that's gonna be a moment that lasts forever. 0:18:50.960 --> 0:18:53.119 I know, that's gonna be a time that she looks 0:18:53.119 --> 0:18:55.439 back on and be like, y'all remember that moment that 0:18:55.520 --> 0:18:58.520 people look back on. You know what's so interesting about 0:18:58.520 --> 0:19:03.080 that day too, she just got the news before she 0:19:03.119 --> 0:19:05.440 showed up at the Breebeque that there was going to 0:19:05.520 --> 0:19:07.600 be an article to come out later in the week 0:19:08.200 --> 0:19:12.520 that basically attempted to assassinate her daughter's carriage. So she 0:19:12.680 --> 0:19:16.040 knew about that coming into the breebeque and was really sad. 0:19:16.080 --> 0:19:17.520 When she first got this, she was like, I really 0:19:17.600 --> 0:19:19.840 kind of want to go home. And I asked her 0:19:20.200 --> 0:19:22.679 to do an interview, to do one or two other things, 0:19:22.760 --> 0:19:25.879 and then we made sure she got food, her family 0:19:25.920 --> 0:19:29.360 member showed up, and over time, as it went on 0:19:29.480 --> 0:19:32.080 and could the day continue, you begin to see her 0:19:32.200 --> 0:19:36.040 realize that just going home to be angry alone wasn't 0:19:36.119 --> 0:19:39.439 going to deal with like any of it. Actually she 0:19:39.480 --> 0:19:41.280 needs to stay there and give people the energy that 0:19:41.359 --> 0:19:44.359 they need to keep fighting. Absolutely. I mean we've always 0:19:44.400 --> 0:19:47.360 had the days and everything that we've ever done, there's 0:19:47.359 --> 0:19:50.240 always a they said or that they criticized us. We 0:19:50.320 --> 0:19:53.119 never are, in fact a d percent sure who the 0:19:53.240 --> 0:19:55.800 days are, but we continue to move forward. I think 0:19:55.920 --> 0:19:58.080 we became very sure who the days well, I mean 0:19:58.160 --> 0:20:00.880 some of the days, oh yeah, we that we found out, Yeah, 0:20:02.600 --> 0:20:04.800 they were pretty they ended up being pretty clear. But 0:20:04.840 --> 0:20:07.760 I think um for us doing like the organizing that 0:20:07.800 --> 0:20:09.080 we did. You know, one of the things that I 0:20:09.080 --> 0:20:12.240 always tell people all the time, like, y'all are organizers. 0:20:12.240 --> 0:20:14.600 Were organizers too, And I think oftentimes people want to 0:20:14.680 --> 0:20:17.480 question each other's strategy, like anybody knows better than anybody. 0:20:17.480 --> 0:20:19.760 And and one of the principles of non violence that 0:20:19.800 --> 0:20:24.919 we practice is, you know, suspend your judgments, ask some questions. 0:20:24.960 --> 0:20:26.800 If there's something that's not clear to you, pick up 0:20:26.840 --> 0:20:28.520 the phone and call somebody and ask some questions. I 0:20:28.560 --> 0:20:31.120 think we're in a type of culture where everybody would 0:20:31.119 --> 0:20:32.960 have questioned you have, would have a commentary you have, 0:20:33.000 --> 0:20:35.159 it goes online before it goes back to the actual 0:20:35.200 --> 0:20:37.000 people that you know are actually doing the work. I mean, 0:20:37.560 --> 0:20:41.800 we shouldn't be questioned um about you know, our intentions, 0:20:41.960 --> 0:20:44.600 or you could criticize our approach. And I'm not saying 0:20:44.600 --> 0:20:46.800 that we're above critique, and then we should never be 0:20:46.880 --> 0:20:49.119 above critique. But I think a lot of people know 0:20:49.240 --> 0:20:51.040 us well enough to know what we've done in the 0:20:51.080 --> 0:20:53.800 last two decades and and and not also how strategic 0:20:53.840 --> 0:20:55.760 we are, Like everybody knows that about us. I mean, 0:20:55.800 --> 0:20:57.800 we're not We didn't just show up to the movement. 0:20:57.840 --> 0:20:59.960 And I think oftentimes the critiques come up from up 0:21:00.000 --> 0:21:02.600 place like like we just started doing this. But then 0:21:02.640 --> 0:21:07.280 if that's the case, then perhaps I'm wrong for for 0:21:07.480 --> 0:21:13.520 saying that the fights given to Lebron by President Obama 0:21:14.440 --> 0:21:21.840 was Um, she just said all this stuff. But the 0:21:21.840 --> 0:21:24.840 thing is this, you know, she said, you're not above critique, right, 0:21:24.880 --> 0:21:28.600 So so when you look at the situation, you look 0:21:28.640 --> 0:21:32.840 at the time, and you look at what the move 0:21:32.960 --> 0:21:36.119 at the moment, the moment called for, and you understood 0:21:36.119 --> 0:21:39.679 that when Lebron and other teams who said we're not 0:21:39.720 --> 0:21:43.480 gonna play, the ripple effected cost throughout just the world, 0:21:44.000 --> 0:21:47.560 you know, the sports world, Baseball players started playing the 0:21:47.600 --> 0:21:51.679 tennis party stuff plays. So when you when you see 0:21:51.720 --> 0:21:55.520 what you did and understand that every owner, everybody had 0:21:55.560 --> 0:21:57.000 to say, Okay, what do we need to do to 0:21:57.040 --> 0:22:00.840 fix this? And you didn't utilize that time to actually 0:22:00.840 --> 0:22:03.400 fix the problem because we went there saying, you know 0:22:03.680 --> 0:22:07.720 that Jacob Blake was shot and this was a catastrophe 0:22:08.000 --> 0:22:11.720 and we wasn't like he said, thuk, this ship were tied, right. 0:22:11.760 --> 0:22:14.760 That was his his words. So if you wanted in 0:22:14.960 --> 0:22:16.840 you had a conversation. I don't I don't want to 0:22:16.880 --> 0:22:19.280 put a lot of burden on you, but I'm asking 0:22:19.320 --> 0:22:22.360 you what was the decision that made you say, decided 0:22:22.800 --> 0:22:26.400 to start some social justice initiatives within each team so 0:22:26.480 --> 0:22:29.400 that each team has an opportunity to really figure out 0:22:29.440 --> 0:22:32.240 what they can do to be a better part of 0:22:32.320 --> 0:22:36.320 this fight. So that's important. And then they also decided 0:22:36.400 --> 0:22:39.280 that many of the stadiums are going to be open 0:22:39.320 --> 0:22:42.639 for voting. So what about Jacob Blake? How does that 0:22:42.680 --> 0:22:46.200 help Jacob Blake? Because I thought I thought that I 0:22:46.920 --> 0:22:49.720 RESI I thought the strikes was because you were mad 0:22:49.760 --> 0:22:52.199 at butout what happened to jacoble I think that the 0:22:52.280 --> 0:22:56.280 players in Minnesota, I mean not in Milwaukee, being that 0:22:56.320 --> 0:22:59.240 they were from the town when this happened. We're angry 0:22:59.400 --> 0:23:02.040 about what they wanted to make A shows up there 0:23:02.320 --> 0:23:04.919