WEBVTT - Cowboys Break: Safe at Safety?

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<v Speaker 1>The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com

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<v Speaker 1>and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. Are you ready for

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<v Speaker 1>a break? Yes? Are you ready for a break? Absolutely?

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<v Speaker 1>Ready for a break? Yeah, and so much for that.

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<v Speaker 1>It's time for the break on Dallas Cowboys dot Com

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<v Speaker 1>with Nick Eatman, David Hellman, and bar Garcia and Derek Eagleton.

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<v Speaker 1>Good morning, guys, today is Tuesday, a beautiful day here

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<v Speaker 1>in Oxnar. I am joined by Nick Eatman David Hellman,

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<v Speaker 1>and we have a graded Derek's position to mister Nate Newton.

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<v Speaker 1>If you guys don't know who this guy is, then

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<v Speaker 1>help you google. What about the key? I mean, what

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<v Speaker 1>an episode we've got. We've got Nate and the Keys. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>you see, Dave just could not help it today. He

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<v Speaker 1>felt threatened by nate appearance here today and he did

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<v Speaker 1>one night to steal the show, and he decided to

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<v Speaker 1>go out with the Lebron James Lakers jersey. It's a

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<v Speaker 1>beautiful morning in the LA area. We got a morning

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<v Speaker 1>practice and I just felt like repping the goat the

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<v Speaker 1>best basketball player ever, Lebron. I don't need your bads

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<v Speaker 1>on today. Oh crap, It's fine. I'll throw it over

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<v Speaker 1>my shoulder and mess it up your Cedric Saba's jersey.

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<v Speaker 1>And if you guys can't see, obviously you can't really see.

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<v Speaker 1>He's wearing some shorts with like zebra Prince. These are

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<v Speaker 1>my Zoo These are my Zoo bads shorts. Stand up?

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<v Speaker 1>Wait wait, ohbody's watching anyway? People listen to needless to say,

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<v Speaker 1>he looks very um. Rob Phillips told me buy me

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<v Speaker 1>dinner if I wore this, So he's the easiest dinner

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<v Speaker 1>I've ever made. Awesome, there you go, I would wear

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<v Speaker 1>this anyway. Okay, well let's get right in to the show.

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<v Speaker 1>We're gonna be doing a forty minute show today, cutting

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<v Speaker 1>it a little bit short since the cowboys will be

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<v Speaker 1>doing in morning practice today. Padded practiced supposedly, and then

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<v Speaker 1>the walkthrough will be this afternoon. Yesterday was kind of

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<v Speaker 1>somewhat of an not really boring practice, but we kind

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<v Speaker 1>of slowed down a little bit from what we are

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<v Speaker 1>used to seeing, maybe getting the boys a little tired

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<v Speaker 1>at this point. And anyways, just real quick, some news.

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<v Speaker 1>Randy Gregory. He was on pads and dressed up in

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<v Speaker 1>Union's form. He didn't really do anything like you know

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<v Speaker 1>part of individual. That's all the Yeah, we perfect model.

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<v Speaker 1>If you want to see what a football player should

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<v Speaker 1>look like, right, they should put him in back at

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<v Speaker 1>this Star with the other guys because he would look

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<v Speaker 1>perfect in his uniform. Maneu Mannequans have done more than

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<v Speaker 1>he has the last two years. Hopefully we can start

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<v Speaker 1>actually doing. So what what is the point of getting

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<v Speaker 1>him in pads and throwing him out there but not

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<v Speaker 1>necessarily doing those kinds of things with the team? Um,

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<v Speaker 1>I think you just don't want a guy that hasn't

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<v Speaker 1>done anything for two years to rush back out there

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<v Speaker 1>and then all of a sudden that's they just screams

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<v Speaker 1>hamstring injury right off the bat. So they're trying to

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<v Speaker 1>be cautious with us, but at the same time, he

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<v Speaker 1>does need to kind of show them what he can do.

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<v Speaker 1>They've been very patient with him, so like, why change

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<v Speaker 1>it now? You're you're talking about Jason Garrett here, who

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<v Speaker 1>is his coach. That's so meticulous that he rehearsed the

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<v Speaker 1>way that they're going to do stretch line for their

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<v Speaker 1>game against San Francisco. I mean, if he can find

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<v Speaker 1>a way to rehearse every single thing, he's going to.

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<v Speaker 1>So put him in some pads, get him used to

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<v Speaker 1>the weight of it and the feel of it. Let

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<v Speaker 1>him do some individuals do. What do you think them

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<v Speaker 1>You actually, you're the one guy up there that's actually

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<v Speaker 1>played it. And if I would agree with that, if

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<v Speaker 1>the pass way what they're not the same pads you are, no,

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<v Speaker 1>And the thing, he's hitting dummies harder than he's gonna

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<v Speaker 1>hit these guys individual, right, they should at least have

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<v Speaker 1>him an individual working, not one of the I saw

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<v Speaker 1>was just only he was over there hitting dummies, and

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<v Speaker 1>those dummies ain't gonna give you no more resistance than

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<v Speaker 1>what one of your teammates are. Now. I understand you

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<v Speaker 1>may not want to get into the rigors of a

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<v Speaker 1>one on one pass rush or something like that, but

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<v Speaker 1>this kid came into camp and he hasn't bent over yet.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know our training staff will push you. You

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<v Speaker 1>know our wait staff will push you, and they can't

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<v Speaker 1>make this kid bend over every time I'm next next,

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<v Speaker 1>So you gotta give him something besides just standing up

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<v Speaker 1>looking like a mannequin. Like, for the record, I agree

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<v Speaker 1>with you, but I'm telling like that that just fits

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<v Speaker 1>Jason Garrett's emo. You know, step by step, meticulous, cover

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<v Speaker 1>every aspect of it before to throw them out there.

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<v Speaker 1>I agree when you say, Jason Garrett, yeah, you know

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<v Speaker 1>how you're doing, guys. I mean three hundred and eighty

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<v Speaker 1>five straight days of Hey, I understand how we're doing guys. Yeah, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>So we're gonna move on to talk some the cornerbacks

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<v Speaker 1>of this team. Cheeto, we know he'd been dealing with

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<v Speaker 1>some knee injury and he was back at it again yesterday.

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<v Speaker 1>Not sure if I mean, I'm sure the training staff

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<v Speaker 1>knows what they're doing, but he an. I thought it

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<v Speaker 1>was like he was wearing a little knee wrapping. Say

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<v Speaker 1>he limped off with the little ankle injury, but that

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<v Speaker 1>was that's not what's been setting right, Okay, he was

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<v Speaker 1>wrapped up and honestly, to your point, uh, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm not trying to question anybody's toughness, but that's

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<v Speaker 1>just the way this goes a training camp is guy

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<v Speaker 1>dings himself up. He want to be careful with him

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<v Speaker 1>and not compromise him for meaningful reps. I didn't think

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<v Speaker 1>we'd see Cheeto for at least a week, so it

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<v Speaker 1>was it was great to see him out I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>he went through a full practice, he did everything, he

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<v Speaker 1>looked really good. I guess it was really just a

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<v Speaker 1>very precautionary thing because I think at the end of

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<v Speaker 1>the day he missed one practice. So that's a great sign. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>And now, so I wanted to get into Anthony Brown,

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<v Speaker 1>who has been uh talked about this last few days

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<v Speaker 1>since he's been making interceptions on back to back days,

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<v Speaker 1>consecutive days, and somewhat of a guy that last year

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<v Speaker 1>didn't necessarily get to the expectations that everyone had of him.

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<v Speaker 1>He dropped a few balls of what could have been interceptions.

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<v Speaker 1>Now he's catching some eyes now, and I wanted to

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<v Speaker 1>see with you guys, how do you guys think that

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<v Speaker 1>this will affect the hope of having Jordan Lewis step in.

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<v Speaker 1>We had talked about him maybe taking that role away

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<v Speaker 1>from Anthony Brown, but as of right now, it looks

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<v Speaker 1>like a very It's a good problem to have when

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<v Speaker 1>you have two guys that are really good. But just

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<v Speaker 1>your opinion of how this is gonna be. Yeah, cornerbacks,

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<v Speaker 1>Jordan Lewis Anthony Brown. You know, this is this is

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<v Speaker 1>what I call great competition. Because we started this this

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<v Speaker 1>deal before OTAs we thought that Jordan Luisabille staughter. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>they bring in Jones and knocked him to the to

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<v Speaker 1>the slot. All this seen, he said, Okay, Jordan's say, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>he's the third guy. Don't worry about starting now. He's

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<v Speaker 1>the fourth guy. Anthony Brown and talking to him what

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<v Speaker 1>Rashard Chris Sharad, what his name Rashard is done? Listen

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<v Speaker 1>to her, you know accent? So hey, when you look

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<v Speaker 1>at these guys, man, he teaches them within what they

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<v Speaker 1>can do. Uh. He don't teach a certain technique that

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<v Speaker 1>you have to do, whereas last year they had a

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<v Speaker 1>certain technique they wanted you to do certain situations. He

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<v Speaker 1>allows them to play and he tweaks them. That helps

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<v Speaker 1>guys like Anthony Brown, Cavan Fraser. Uh, too mature and

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<v Speaker 1>he's found the rhythm because if you look at the

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<v Speaker 1>first few days of practice he didn't look too well.

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<v Speaker 1>But as over there as the training camps go, you

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<v Speaker 1>get better, you get better and not be seeing him

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<v Speaker 1>there here's and you're not You're not wrong at all.

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<v Speaker 1>You're absolutely right, but it's you know, you tend to

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<v Speaker 1>think of it from one side, as we all expect

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<v Speaker 1>Jordan to be the starter because of where he was drafted.

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<v Speaker 1>The fans want it. Uh, it's it's this storyline that's like, well, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>third round pick played well last year, why isn't he starting?

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<v Speaker 1>And don't think for a second that Anthony Brown doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>know that, because I talked to him last night. That

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<v Speaker 1>dude seems mad. Uh not like not not in a

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<v Speaker 1>bad way at all, but he knows that everybody in

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<v Speaker 1>the world wants to take his job away, Like it

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<v Speaker 1>was readily apparent from talking to him, and he was

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<v Speaker 1>basically he's like, yeah, a lot of people forget that

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<v Speaker 1>I can play pretty well, like and I guarantee you.

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<v Speaker 1>He also knows he had his struggles last year, but

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<v Speaker 1>he's looked pretty good in this last week at camp.

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<v Speaker 1>He's got three picks in the last two days. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>he's been he was playing outside for a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>while Cheeto was out. He's primarily been the starter in

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<v Speaker 1>the slot. He I think his style it works with

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<v Speaker 1>Chris Chard because he wants him to be aggressive, but

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<v Speaker 1>he's not. Too many guys had the speed Anthony Brown has.

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<v Speaker 1>He he was clocked one and once. I think I

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<v Speaker 1>guess at the combine around four two nine. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>that's that's speed. That that's track speed. So you can

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<v Speaker 1>you can make you can catch up when you can

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<v Speaker 1>run like that, so that that allows you to be

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<v Speaker 1>a little closer and take risk and then all of

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<v Speaker 1>a sudden, you get beat by a step or two,

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<v Speaker 1>you can catch up because you've got that kind of speed,

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<v Speaker 1>which I just it's gonna be a fascinating battle because

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<v Speaker 1>at the end of the day, I think they're both

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<v Speaker 1>capable of doing it. I think they've both had their

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<v Speaker 1>moments here at camp. But yeah, to my point, like

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<v Speaker 1>Anthony Brown knows the narrative, I guarantee you he does,

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<v Speaker 1>and he's gonna it. Sounds like he's working like hell

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<v Speaker 1>to to fend that off. It's three guys, Jeff Hea,

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<v Speaker 1>Xavier Wood, and Anthony Brown, all of them guys, and

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<v Speaker 1>I've talked to two of the other guys. They feel

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<v Speaker 1>the same way. They're not mad, but they know that

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<v Speaker 1>somebody's taking coming to take their job, whether it's a

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<v Speaker 1>gout or the team, whether it's a guy on this team.

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<v Speaker 1>They feel that way, and they're competing hard and they're

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<v Speaker 1>playing fast, and Chris Rashad gives them opportunity within this

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<v Speaker 1>scheme to do what they need to do and take

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<v Speaker 1>advantage of the speed. We didn't take advantage of Anthony

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<v Speaker 1>brown speed last year by letting him press a little bit,

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<v Speaker 1>let him take some chances. But when he messed up,

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<v Speaker 1>we should you know, we let the world know it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah and yeah, I mean to that point, I think

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<v Speaker 1>it's great when you have when you challenge the guys

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<v Speaker 1>and never let them get too comfortable, because then once

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<v Speaker 1>they get comfortable, that's where mistakes start happening. And something

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<v Speaker 1>really interesting that I thought Anthony Brown. We know about

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<v Speaker 1>Saint Geliles and his little drill that he has the

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<v Speaker 1>wide receivers carried those bricks and basically to work on

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<v Speaker 1>that grip and strangen those fingers. And to me, I

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<v Speaker 1>think it's been working. Having seen Terms Williams really dropping passes,

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<v Speaker 1>so catching the ball and Anthony Brown decided to pick

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<v Speaker 1>up the bricks after practice and you know, uh do

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<v Speaker 1>his little work himself. And apparently this is a drill

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<v Speaker 1>that seems to be working for those Hans. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>Anthony Brown almost lost the game for him last year

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<v Speaker 1>when he had a chance to pick off a pass

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<v Speaker 1>against the Raiders to just secure the win. And he

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<v Speaker 1>dropped it. The next play was a pass interference penalty.

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<v Speaker 1>They were down there about to score and win the game,

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<v Speaker 1>and then Jeff Heath made the play that he made

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<v Speaker 1>that goats make so but but we kind of forgot

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<v Speaker 1>and had to let Anthony Brown off the hook. He's

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<v Speaker 1>a guy that that he's got this speeded if he

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<v Speaker 1>could catch at four two nine, if you got the speed,

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<v Speaker 1>he'd be playing wide receiver. He said that last night.

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<v Speaker 1>You're right. I mean, it wasn't like it wasn't like

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<v Speaker 1>the whole dB staff went over there. Like he went

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<v Speaker 1>and got Sanjay's bricks out of the tent and was

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<v Speaker 1>just carrying him around on his own, and he's catching

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<v Speaker 1>balls out here. And I asked him about it, and

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<v Speaker 1>he was like, I should have had seven picks last year,

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<v Speaker 1>which I don't know if that's true. I have to

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<v Speaker 1>go back and look, because it had two thousand yards

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<v Speaker 1>by now. Yeah, exactly. I feel like players are always

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<v Speaker 1>a little more friendly to the stats than than reality.

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<v Speaker 1>But I could have done this. You definitely could have

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<v Speaker 1>had three or four. Um. So if it looks like

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<v Speaker 1>it looks like the work that he's doing is translating, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm excited to see this carry into the priest. Was

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<v Speaker 1>that the way that it was when when you played,

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<v Speaker 1>was it like always like man, we yeah, we scored

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<v Speaker 1>twenty five points, twenty eight points, we could have had

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<v Speaker 1>forty two. I mean like you look at it that way,

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<v Speaker 1>like there's always stuff, you know, there's always a skill

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<v Speaker 1>position players that look at it that way because we

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<v Speaker 1>always mashing and pushing on folks and we're just glad

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<v Speaker 1>when it's over. You know what I'm saying. When you

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<v Speaker 1>were you playing against a Jerome Brown, Rigi white man,

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<v Speaker 1>I had Rigid, no sacks, It's the game would have

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<v Speaker 1>went on out. I'd have really killed him. No, he'd

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<v Speaker 1>have bitch, you gotta sack, so you just let's just

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<v Speaker 1>get out of here. I was thinking about that, Yes, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>like all you know, skill players and pass rushers love

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<v Speaker 1>to like they all wear hoodies and like Zeke had

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<v Speaker 1>a sleeveless hoodie and a long sleeve shirt and like

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<v Speaker 1>all this crap on underneath. You look at the O

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<v Speaker 1>line and it's all just shortly like there's nothing extra.

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<v Speaker 1>They're like, whatever, man, we just we're gonna block these guys,

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<v Speaker 1>and like, I don't need to worry about. Ally, You

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<v Speaker 1>always talking about going up against Reggie and Jerome Brown

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<v Speaker 1>and maybe Leonard Marshall. You never see anything about like

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<v Speaker 1>who was playing for the Cardinals or maybe the Redskins

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<v Speaker 1>or somebody liked the guy the Harvey who was EJ.

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<v Speaker 1>Junior was for itself. I mean they asked, but the

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<v Speaker 1>guy was the Hall of Fame a corner, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I can't think of his name. Yes, Williams. Yeah, that

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<v Speaker 1>was it. Yeah, I mean, I mean they had they

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<v Speaker 1>had a few stuns, had Roy Green, but he was

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<v Speaker 1>at an end of his career, you know. So, Jim Hart,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't even remember, like I mean, I remember it,

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<v Speaker 1>but not well that the Cardinals were even an nfcast team.

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<v Speaker 1>Like all my memories of you talking about brother about

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<v Speaker 1>the playoffs, you talking about a team that will play

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<v Speaker 1>you deep into the fourth quarter and then you all

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<v Speaker 1>you gotta is keep playing and don't make a mistake

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<v Speaker 1>because they don't give it the find in the fourth quarter.

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<v Speaker 1>They gonna give it to you, oh man, until the

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<v Speaker 1>playoffs when they didn't. Sorry, okay, let's I'm sorry. You

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<v Speaker 1>know that's what Nick does. It's fine, yeah, a little bit, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>good get on Cardinals break um Nate you mentioned, Hey,

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<v Speaker 1>that reminds me twenty years ago. I know about twenty

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<v Speaker 1>twenty years ago. I'm standing a few pounds less than this.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just my first year training camp, whichtall falls standing on.

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<v Speaker 1>There's a goal line drill. They do a sweep to

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<v Speaker 1>the side, and you know, the pulling guards gotta run.

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<v Speaker 1>You run thirty forty yards, gotta hit somebody, hit somebody.

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<v Speaker 1>Sure what happened in the play. All of a sudden,

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<v Speaker 1>this lineman just comes running here. I'm just standing here

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<v Speaker 1>kind of out of the way, definitely out of this

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<v Speaker 1>guy's way, and Big sixty one just shoves me for

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<v Speaker 1>no reason. I'm in the media. Pushed me, almost went

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<v Speaker 1>to the ground, and I like looked over and you

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<v Speaker 1>were just like, you know, pulling your pants up, like whatever.

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<v Speaker 1>I hit somebody out here. That was That was me.

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<v Speaker 1>Thanks for doing that. You ever? You ever? You know

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<v Speaker 1>you see the movies Man where they have the avalanche

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<v Speaker 1>and they just started a snowflake and all of a

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<v Speaker 1>sudden it just builds up. Yeah, Hey, that's the when

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<v Speaker 1>a guard pulls around my size back then, and it

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<v Speaker 1>was training camp and I was trying to get in shape.

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<v Speaker 1>get out of the way. When I was out of

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<v Speaker 1>shove me and you couldn't stop. Man, it was a

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<v Speaker 1>flats using you to slow down. Yeah, you got me

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<v Speaker 1>all right on that note, Let's take our first break.

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<v Speaker 1>all right, before the Brave we talked about the corners

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<v Speaker 1>and a few other things. So now we're gonna get

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<v Speaker 1>into the safety and we don't have to discuss We

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<v Speaker 1>always talk about Earl Thomas, a past of all trade,

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<v Speaker 1>blah blah blah, but we never really touched on the

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<v Speaker 1>guys that we currently have. We never go and getting

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<v Speaker 1>too how these guys are looking out here. So Cavn Frasier.

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<v Speaker 1>We know we had he had that whole blood problem

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<v Speaker 1>and now he's back on the field problem. That's what

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<v Speaker 1>it was. They They did not really want to get

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<v Speaker 1>a lot more specifically right like what it was like,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, and obviously, like when it's a medical issue

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<v Speaker 1>keeping a player off the field, it's gonna come out.

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<v Speaker 1>But you know, I don't think Cavan really wanted it

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<v Speaker 1>out there, didn't want to go into a lot of specifics.

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<v Speaker 1>I get it, like right now, I don't specifically know

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<v Speaker 1>what it was other than you know, a problem with

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<v Speaker 1>his blood so exactly. So that was a good explanation.

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<v Speaker 1>You say, got to eat more visible so a figure Clotton,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, for a guy who missed the first week

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<v Speaker 1>of camp. I've been really impressed with what I've seen

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<v Speaker 1>from him. Yes he has. He's been nice, he's been aggressive,

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<v Speaker 1>he's been up in the box along with Jeff Heath.

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<v Speaker 1>The guy him standing in the hole is Xavier Woods.

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<v Speaker 1>I haven't seen him play close up, and I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>gonna stay on Earl Thomas, but that's another guy Woods.

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<v Speaker 1>That feel like, you know what everybody's got Nobody, anybody

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<v Speaker 1>me and Amber included, Like, I'm not in a sense

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<v Speaker 1>in this like nobody is satisfied with that right And

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<v Speaker 1>it would piss me off if I were him. I

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<v Speaker 1>know that. You know. What Broadest brought to my attention

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<v Speaker 1>was tackling. Will he be back there in that hole,

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<v Speaker 1>and will he come up and make the right tackle

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<v Speaker 1>with he missed will fla he did a few times

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<v Speaker 1>during the regular season last year. And when he's out

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<v Speaker 1>here practicing, he don't come up and assure me that,

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<v Speaker 1>you know he's gonna be on top of he always

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<v Speaker 1>putting a hand out there. He better start breaking down

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<v Speaker 1>and getting on top of people. And you know, because

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<v Speaker 1>if I'm looking at it, definitely broadest looking at it,

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<v Speaker 1>don't you know everybody else is looking at it, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>so he can't will if he can't miss any tackles.

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<v Speaker 1>We've talked about it on this show before, but that's

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<v Speaker 1>something that scares me about just safety in general, is

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<v Speaker 1>that it's a hard position to evaluate in this setting.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes it is. You can make the read ten times

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<v Speaker 1>out of ten, you know exactly where you need to

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<v Speaker 1>be get to the ball carrier. Are you gonna make

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<v Speaker 1>the tackle? I mean, you're in position out here and

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<v Speaker 1>it looks great when you watch it on tape, but

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<v Speaker 1>are you gonna make the tackle? And there's no way

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<v Speaker 1>to know that until you're playing a real game, especially

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<v Speaker 1>when you're just just topping. Like I said, and they

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<v Speaker 1>make those noise and they're like that. And that's another

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<v Speaker 1>reason you know, I'm reserved on Jalen Invanderish because linebackers

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<v Speaker 1>in safetiest you don't get to know what they are

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<v Speaker 1>into a game start yep, you know, because they don't

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<v Speaker 1>get the thump out here and covering a guy they

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<v Speaker 1>running behind them a thought. But when you assigned to

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<v Speaker 1>a guy and you you guy who first got out

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<v Speaker 1>and you assigned to that guy, you gotta get on

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<v Speaker 1>him because if you lag like you lag out here,

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<v Speaker 1>it's a touchdown. So yeah, I was just gonna ask

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<v Speaker 1>you about like when you played like was it was

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<v Speaker 1>it completely different? Like you could tell by practice because

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<v Speaker 1>you guys were more physical or hitting out there. You

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<v Speaker 1>can tell you can't. Coaches have a super hell of

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<v Speaker 1>a job trying to get get a player right because

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<v Speaker 1>you draft a guy and right away you know we went.

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<v Speaker 1>We open up our camp with seven on seven. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>seven on seven, but it was inside run. It was

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<v Speaker 1>our five guys offensive line with a tight end in

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<v Speaker 1>the running back versus the front seven, and we would

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<v Speaker 1>do seven on seven running. But it'd be wide open

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<v Speaker 1>to be man the first day, man, you you soaking

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<v Speaker 1>your hands in an alcohol And I'm glad they don't

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<v Speaker 1>do that now because you don't have enough players to

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<v Speaker 1>do that. And you would mess up your Sarah cap

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<v Speaker 1>I mean you would, you would blow up Sarah cap. Hey.

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<v Speaker 1>You're still the best former player that I've seen in

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<v Speaker 1>the last thirty techns. Pretty good players just walked by.

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<v Speaker 1>Who was about him was a great player for what

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<v Speaker 1>he does and for who he is. Man. But I

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<v Speaker 1>think I think Mike is here today too. Yeah, Irvan,

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<v Speaker 1>I think so well, Nate. You know, it don't matter

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<v Speaker 1>when it comes to skill position players. Yeah, I prefer

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<v Speaker 1>to be Larry Allen. And then I was like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that's my boy. Yeah, I'm saying I hain't even do that.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's try to go ahead, Copter to get handled hey

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<v Speaker 1>real quick. We did a top we did a top

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<v Speaker 1>ten list. Um when when Zack Martin signed his deal,

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<v Speaker 1>he signed as a new contract, and we said, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>who's the ten best of guards in Cowboys history? And

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<v Speaker 1>you weren't around when we were doing voting and all that,

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<v Speaker 1>and Larry was number one, and it came down between

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<v Speaker 1>you and Zach Martin at number two, and he was

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<v Speaker 1>most athletic. He was most athletic. Who uh, he's he's

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<v Speaker 1>more athletic than I was. You know, I think it

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<v Speaker 1>was Brad Schamp said. Nate would probably be the first

0:23:00.480 --> 0:23:03.440
<v Speaker 1>one to say, Zach will probably be a little bit better.

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<v Speaker 1>But we had you a solid number three. I'm something, bro.

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<v Speaker 1>It don't matter, man, it I've been a Cowboy since

0:23:12.960 --> 0:23:16.080
<v Speaker 1>i was eleven years old, ten years old, and I've

0:23:16.119 --> 0:23:19.280
<v Speaker 1>seen so many greats, you know, John Nil and guys

0:23:19.359 --> 0:23:23.240
<v Speaker 1>like that, you know Rayphield, right, just so many great guys, man,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm a part of that. So you know when

0:23:27.160 --> 0:23:29.480
<v Speaker 1>people go to talking ring them on a Hall of Fame.

0:23:30.280 --> 0:23:32.520
<v Speaker 1>I get to work with you guys every day, y'all.

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<v Speaker 1>Notice I don't say much because I'm living my dream. Brother,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, not only to be played for the Cowboys.

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<v Speaker 1>Now after my career over with working for the Cowboys,

0:23:43.600 --> 0:23:46.720
<v Speaker 1>I'm chill all the time. Don't matter who number one,

0:23:46.760 --> 0:23:49.640
<v Speaker 1>who number two. I'm here in the house. Bro, You're

0:23:49.720 --> 0:23:54.080
<v Speaker 1>the greatest in the house. Well, it's great to have

0:23:54.240 --> 0:23:57.280
<v Speaker 1>you here. And I just thought you hated me because

0:23:57.320 --> 0:24:02.800
<v Speaker 1>you're so quiet, But I living the dream. Yeah, yeah,

0:24:02.800 --> 0:24:04.680
<v Speaker 1>it's good, and I hate that guy that because he's

0:24:04.680 --> 0:24:06.879
<v Speaker 1>gonna run off with this guy here, but he should

0:24:06.880 --> 0:24:09.120
<v Speaker 1>stay on helm and then you know the Lebron look alike.

0:24:09.160 --> 0:24:15.960
<v Speaker 1>I mean, okay, well, let's backtrack a little bit. Before

0:24:16.000 --> 0:24:20.520
<v Speaker 1>we got into that. You mentioned the linebacker position Jalen

0:24:20.600 --> 0:24:24.119
<v Speaker 1>Smith vander Esh, a position that has been a concern

0:24:24.160 --> 0:24:27.200
<v Speaker 1>for the Cowboys this season, and I wanted to touch

0:24:27.320 --> 0:24:30.320
<v Speaker 1>You said how hard it is to evaluate them, and

0:24:30.359 --> 0:24:33.679
<v Speaker 1>it is, but what would be the best way to

0:24:35.200 --> 0:24:38.200
<v Speaker 1>based on what we watch here to say, Okay, how

0:24:38.200 --> 0:24:41.840
<v Speaker 1>are they really looking their instincts or their instincts there

0:24:42.320 --> 0:24:47.320
<v Speaker 1>for both of them? Well, I see Vanderesh come downhill

0:24:47.440 --> 0:24:51.560
<v Speaker 1>with the same enthusiasm that Jalen comes downhill. But I

0:24:51.640 --> 0:24:57.360
<v Speaker 1>see Vanderesh cover better than Jalen. So, Nate, you know,

0:24:57.520 --> 0:25:00.960
<v Speaker 1>all Jalen has on him is he's played more games,

0:25:01.000 --> 0:25:03.399
<v Speaker 1>He's been involved in more games. I would like to

0:25:03.440 --> 0:25:06.280
<v Speaker 1>see this kid play before, you know, I mean in

0:25:06.400 --> 0:25:10.639
<v Speaker 1>the preseason. Give him three quarters, Let him get play,

0:25:10.880 --> 0:25:13.240
<v Speaker 1>get tired, so he can get ingrained in his mind,

0:25:13.320 --> 0:25:16.720
<v Speaker 1>he can become instinctive with the with the scheme we've

0:25:16.760 --> 0:25:20.479
<v Speaker 1>given Jalen. That not one hundred percent being fair to him.

0:25:20.520 --> 0:25:23.119
<v Speaker 1>Because last year he was behind the eight ball. But

0:25:23.240 --> 0:25:26.480
<v Speaker 1>this year here you can't wait, you know. Coach Marinelli

0:25:26.560 --> 0:25:30.359
<v Speaker 1>and Jason Garrett said, we got room for all three.

0:25:30.440 --> 0:25:33.800
<v Speaker 1>No we don't. No, we don't. Because a linebacker to

0:25:33.880 --> 0:25:35.840
<v Speaker 1>me is like a like a running back. The more

0:25:35.880 --> 0:25:38.000
<v Speaker 1>they play, the more they see, the more they can

0:25:38.040 --> 0:25:39.960
<v Speaker 1>play the instincts, the more they can play the scheme.

0:25:40.240 --> 0:25:42.320
<v Speaker 1>And then they're looking at how the groups that come

0:25:42.359 --> 0:25:44.760
<v Speaker 1>in and now they can stop making plays. That's what

0:25:44.800 --> 0:25:47.400
<v Speaker 1>Sean Lee does. So now we're gonna say, hey, Sean,

0:25:47.560 --> 0:25:49.639
<v Speaker 1>you've did thirty five players. Let's get you off the

0:25:49.640 --> 0:25:52.520
<v Speaker 1>field that don't make no sense. You find one of

0:25:52.560 --> 0:25:55.200
<v Speaker 1>these hammers, man, let him nail down the coffin ship,

0:25:55.280 --> 0:25:58.320
<v Speaker 1>and that's what we gotta do. I will say like

0:25:58.480 --> 0:26:01.040
<v Speaker 1>that I have a hard time following like a six

0:26:01.119 --> 0:26:04.359
<v Speaker 1>time pro bowler, but i will say that one thing

0:26:04.440 --> 0:26:06.880
<v Speaker 1>I've noticed, and again, it is hard to evaluate these positions.

0:26:06.920 --> 0:26:10.240
<v Speaker 1>I'm encouraged by the number of guys who look like

0:26:10.280 --> 0:26:13.040
<v Speaker 1>they can cover, and I'm not talking about cornerbacks. I'm

0:26:13.040 --> 0:26:15.359
<v Speaker 1>taught like Layton vander esh has made some plays in

0:26:15.400 --> 0:26:19.040
<v Speaker 1>these last two practices. Uh Jalen Smith carried Cole Beasley

0:26:19.040 --> 0:26:20.960
<v Speaker 1>down the field the other day, which I still can't

0:26:20.960 --> 0:26:24.439
<v Speaker 1>wrap my head around. Um, anything a straight line this

0:26:24.520 --> 0:26:27.240
<v Speaker 1>kid can do. Yeah, well and is coming back. Yeah, Cavon.

0:26:27.359 --> 0:26:29.679
<v Speaker 1>Cavon Frasier is another one. He I mean, we know

0:26:29.800 --> 0:26:32.000
<v Speaker 1>he can thump, That's what you know about Cavon. But

0:26:32.119 --> 0:26:34.280
<v Speaker 1>he has made some plays in coverage that you know.

0:26:34.320 --> 0:26:36.200
<v Speaker 1>I'm not ready to say that he's going be or

0:26:36.240 --> 0:26:37.840
<v Speaker 1>start with what you got. I know what I'm gonna

0:26:37.840 --> 0:26:42.280
<v Speaker 1>say though, Thomas. No, I'm talking about him once per segment.

0:26:42.440 --> 0:26:45.440
<v Speaker 1>But um, it also means that maybe these tight ends

0:26:45.480 --> 0:26:48.919
<v Speaker 1>can't get open. Yeah, No, that's that's entirely possible. Now,

0:26:51.600 --> 0:26:55.320
<v Speaker 1>Jason wittenhead experienced on how like I saw a route

0:26:55.840 --> 0:26:58.720
<v Speaker 1>that even receiver ran where it was in the red

0:26:58.840 --> 0:27:01.359
<v Speaker 1>zone where I stopped film and I told brought us,

0:27:01.440 --> 0:27:04.399
<v Speaker 1>say brought us. If that'd been Jason Witten, he'd ran

0:27:04.520 --> 0:27:07.640
<v Speaker 1>to the inside number of that guy and then broke

0:27:07.640 --> 0:27:10.959
<v Speaker 1>out to give itself some space. All they need is experience.

0:27:11.320 --> 0:27:13.480
<v Speaker 1>What did what I found out they can't do. And

0:27:13.520 --> 0:27:15.600
<v Speaker 1>I thought Jason Witten wasn't very good at this head

0:27:15.680 --> 0:27:19.240
<v Speaker 1>end of his career. These dudes can't blocked nobody but Swain. Nope,

0:27:19.440 --> 0:27:23.679
<v Speaker 1>the rest of them came blocked. No, No, they cannot. Whoa.

0:27:23.840 --> 0:27:26.800
<v Speaker 1>That's scary now, yeah, especially when can you talk about

0:27:26.800 --> 0:27:29.720
<v Speaker 1>this offensive line. They're running game and the blocking tight

0:27:29.800 --> 0:27:31.399
<v Speaker 1>end is a big part of it as well. And

0:27:31.440 --> 0:27:35.120
<v Speaker 1>then we got we got Rico Gablers. Man. I mean,

0:27:35.160 --> 0:27:37.240
<v Speaker 1>this dude a freight train. He only shows up when

0:27:37.240 --> 0:27:40.520
<v Speaker 1>it's past the situations. Please, man, come on, man, he's

0:27:40.520 --> 0:27:42.400
<v Speaker 1>trying off the street. He's trying to get he's trying

0:27:42.400 --> 0:27:44.240
<v Speaker 1>to get on you know, he wants to be on

0:27:44.280 --> 0:27:47.520
<v Speaker 1>Sports Center. Get those highlights. We're gonna HiPE on him,

0:27:47.560 --> 0:27:51.480
<v Speaker 1>all right, man, Okay, September one, well, cutting out of

0:27:51.520 --> 0:27:58.880
<v Speaker 1>fifty three. Wow? Hey man, hey, Well, so I received

0:27:58.880 --> 0:28:02.080
<v Speaker 1>the question from Toy which brings me back to Rico

0:28:02.160 --> 0:28:06.080
<v Speaker 1>Gathers and basically saying, Okay, if Rinco continues to develop

0:28:06.200 --> 0:28:09.920
<v Speaker 1>and he shows up in the preseason, scores a few touchdown,

0:28:10.040 --> 0:28:13.720
<v Speaker 1>gets a few yards, a few receptions, it's looking good,

0:28:14.200 --> 0:28:20.480
<v Speaker 1>would you want the Cowboys to take him and trade him.

0:28:20.640 --> 0:28:23.720
<v Speaker 1>I'd maybe a fourth round pick or something with him

0:28:24.119 --> 0:28:26.840
<v Speaker 1>in order to trade something they may put on the street.

0:28:27.520 --> 0:28:29.320
<v Speaker 1>When are they going to put on the street. Yeah,

0:28:29.400 --> 0:28:32.480
<v Speaker 1>they may, because then don't he have some He's gonna

0:28:32.480 --> 0:28:36.680
<v Speaker 1>be like, uh Flowers or whatever his name twenty eight Showers, Yeah,

0:28:36.840 --> 0:28:42.080
<v Speaker 1>Showers or whatever career see Flowers. Y'all gotta excuse me,

0:28:42.160 --> 0:28:45.560
<v Speaker 1>y'all they used to me on my show because if you,

0:28:45.160 --> 0:28:48.719
<v Speaker 1>if you are somebody and doing your job, I know

0:28:48.800 --> 0:28:52.080
<v Speaker 1>your name, and that's you know me. I gotta I

0:28:52.120 --> 0:28:55.760
<v Speaker 1>gotta know these names because I gotta down. But I'm

0:28:55.800 --> 0:29:03.280
<v Speaker 1>not a sixty No, I'm serious, Showers, Rico, when you

0:29:03.480 --> 0:29:08.320
<v Speaker 1>gonna be a perennial, a practice squad guy that don't

0:29:08.320 --> 0:29:12.200
<v Speaker 1>impress me? What impressed me is if you a Cavan Frasier,

0:29:12.400 --> 0:29:15.440
<v Speaker 1>a guy that was destined to be on the practice

0:29:15.480 --> 0:29:18.680
<v Speaker 1>squad but did everything in his power no matter what

0:29:18.720 --> 0:29:20.800
<v Speaker 1>it was asked of him. He told us on the

0:29:20.800 --> 0:29:23.200
<v Speaker 1>show to stay. I knew my only chance of making

0:29:23.200 --> 0:29:26.480
<v Speaker 1>his team with special teams. Why Rico don't feel that way?

0:29:27.160 --> 0:29:29.480
<v Speaker 1>Why he don't feel that way? So does your opinion

0:29:29.640 --> 0:29:33.120
<v Speaker 1>change when you come and look at the four preseason

0:29:33.200 --> 0:29:36.840
<v Speaker 1>games and see him being doing well, Like you know

0:29:36.880 --> 0:29:41.320
<v Speaker 1>how lot he tries the block, he'll be better than

0:29:42.520 --> 0:29:45.000
<v Speaker 1>than the other two received. The other two tight ends,

0:29:45.080 --> 0:29:49.360
<v Speaker 1>accept my man, Swain, the other two guys are trying.

0:29:49.400 --> 0:29:53.720
<v Speaker 1>Shultz is gonna get there. He just needs development. Then

0:29:53.720 --> 0:29:55.680
<v Speaker 1>in that case, you want to keep him on the roster.

0:29:55.800 --> 0:29:58.840
<v Speaker 1>You would watch this practice squad. I mean, what do

0:29:58.920 --> 0:30:01.360
<v Speaker 1>you think. I'm I'm here. We talked about this a

0:30:01.400 --> 0:30:04.040
<v Speaker 1>little bit because and I hear you, I really do.

0:30:04.160 --> 0:30:06.880
<v Speaker 1>But if he goes out and has a preseason like

0:30:06.920 --> 0:30:09.880
<v Speaker 1>he did last year and you can't deny his ability

0:30:09.920 --> 0:30:13.960
<v Speaker 1>as a downfield threat, maybe you try to find a

0:30:14.000 --> 0:30:16.160
<v Speaker 1>way to hold onto him regardless of the fact that

0:30:16.200 --> 0:30:18.400
<v Speaker 1>he's a one dimensional player, and that'll be a challenge

0:30:18.400 --> 0:30:20.840
<v Speaker 1>for them. And it doesn't sound like something going back

0:30:20.840 --> 0:30:23.880
<v Speaker 1>to Jason Garrett being meticulous, that doesn't sound like the

0:30:23.920 --> 0:30:25.840
<v Speaker 1>type of thing he wants to do. He wants a

0:30:25.840 --> 0:30:28.800
<v Speaker 1>well rounded tight end who can do everything. He's been

0:30:28.800 --> 0:30:31.840
<v Speaker 1>spoiled by having Jason Witten for the last twelve years

0:30:31.920 --> 0:30:34.120
<v Speaker 1>or whatever however long. James, Okay, so we're gonna have

0:30:34.200 --> 0:30:38.080
<v Speaker 1>two Rico Gathers, the other than being Blake Jarring. Just

0:30:38.200 --> 0:30:41.320
<v Speaker 1>two tight ends. Yeah, No, it's tricky. That ain't gonna

0:30:41.360 --> 0:30:44.120
<v Speaker 1>block and then we gonna have one possible rookie is

0:30:44.240 --> 0:30:45.920
<v Speaker 1>learning how to block, and then we will have sway.

0:30:46.200 --> 0:30:56.720
<v Speaker 1>It's how do they both make What if? And this

0:30:56.800 --> 0:30:58.760
<v Speaker 1>is a big if, but what if you could find

0:30:58.800 --> 0:31:02.520
<v Speaker 1>a special teams roll big enough for Rico to where

0:31:02.560 --> 0:31:04.720
<v Speaker 1>he can make enough of a difference. It's like, all right,

0:31:05.200 --> 0:31:07.360
<v Speaker 1>you're on field goal team, you're on punt team, and

0:31:07.520 --> 0:31:09.200
<v Speaker 1>you go in in the red zone. That's all we

0:31:09.240 --> 0:31:12.080
<v Speaker 1>want you to do. I can deal with that. I

0:31:12.120 --> 0:31:20.160
<v Speaker 1>mean Escobar, somebody here recently. They have no faith at

0:31:20.200 --> 0:31:22.400
<v Speaker 1>all that they can make it work. Okay, if it

0:31:22.520 --> 0:31:25.520
<v Speaker 1>came down to those two, Blake Jarwin and Rico Gathers.

0:31:25.640 --> 0:31:29.200
<v Speaker 1>We heard the Cowboys talk about Blake Jarwin over and

0:31:29.240 --> 0:31:32.440
<v Speaker 1>over during the off season. Clearly a guy that they

0:31:32.440 --> 0:31:35.920
<v Speaker 1>were supporting and rooting for and trusting. Yeah, if it

0:31:36.000 --> 0:31:38.240
<v Speaker 1>came down to those two, would you not assume that

0:31:38.320 --> 0:31:41.640
<v Speaker 1>they would go with I would assume they would. But

0:31:41.680 --> 0:31:43.960
<v Speaker 1>it will depend on what happens in these games, because

0:31:44.200 --> 0:31:46.239
<v Speaker 1>I mean out here at practice. It's if all we

0:31:46.240 --> 0:31:48.320
<v Speaker 1>were doing was practicing out here, it would be easy

0:31:48.360 --> 0:31:51.080
<v Speaker 1>to cut Rico Gathers. It's right when he goes up

0:31:51.120 --> 0:31:53.960
<v Speaker 1>against the Bengals and posts five catches, for eighty yards

0:31:53.960 --> 0:31:57.040
<v Speaker 1>and then you're you're having a different conversation. Well, thank

0:31:57.080 --> 0:32:04.040
<v Speaker 1>god for I mean, I agree, I elaborate. Oh well, yeah,

0:32:04.040 --> 0:32:06.680
<v Speaker 1>he's gonna be your yea when you do thirteen personnel

0:32:06.680 --> 0:32:11.200
<v Speaker 1>on the one yard line. Yeah, he's gonna be. Well.

0:32:11.280 --> 0:32:14.360
<v Speaker 1>Before we finished the show, I wanted to talk about

0:32:15.000 --> 0:32:18.600
<v Speaker 1>the nose tackle Antoine Woods real quick. And he's a

0:32:18.320 --> 0:32:25.640
<v Speaker 1>guy human log ny come back every day, baby, this

0:32:25.680 --> 0:32:30.160
<v Speaker 1>is what Eric does. Just yells at the firing Derek does.

0:32:30.200 --> 0:32:32.520
<v Speaker 1>He's going on other people shows when you have stars.

0:32:33.560 --> 0:32:37.480
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, you like him joining your show? He the bass? Hey,

0:32:37.760 --> 0:32:41.440
<v Speaker 1>come on in, Hey, come on sir. He was he

0:32:41.480 --> 0:32:43.400
<v Speaker 1>involved in that fight yesterday. I didn't get a good

0:32:43.440 --> 0:32:46.560
<v Speaker 1>look at it. Antoine Woods, we're talking about Derek. Oh no,

0:32:46.760 --> 0:32:53.600
<v Speaker 1>Antoine Woods. I don't thanks. So, yeah, he's tenacious, Bryce,

0:32:53.680 --> 0:32:56.640
<v Speaker 1>I believe I like his tenacity even if he wasn't involved.

0:32:57.440 --> 0:32:59.719
<v Speaker 1>So he's a guy that he came in no one

0:32:59.800 --> 0:33:02.400
<v Speaker 1>really noticed him, and a guy that you didn't really

0:33:02.480 --> 0:33:05.640
<v Speaker 1>expect him to be doing much. And now he's getting

0:33:05.680 --> 0:33:08.200
<v Speaker 1>his name known and he was in case you guys

0:33:08.200 --> 0:33:12.600
<v Speaker 1>don't know, he's the guy that dared to punch Travis

0:33:12.640 --> 0:33:16.720
<v Speaker 1>Frederick in the face. So again he keeps his name,

0:33:17.120 --> 0:33:20.800
<v Speaker 1>keeps bringing up, shining here and being brought up. He's

0:33:20.920 --> 0:33:23.960
<v Speaker 1>just keep showing up. I'm gonna ask you about that

0:33:24.080 --> 0:33:26.440
<v Speaker 1>because he just keep showing up. You told me a

0:33:26.520 --> 0:33:30.240
<v Speaker 1>story last year about the seventh round pick name le Unlett.

0:33:30.440 --> 0:33:32.640
<v Speaker 1>Yeah who when he first got here. He's from a

0:33:32.640 --> 0:33:34.640
<v Speaker 1>small school, Like, who's this guy? And I'm a pro

0:33:34.720 --> 0:33:38.360
<v Speaker 1>bowler and all that, and he challenged you, he went

0:33:38.400 --> 0:33:40.920
<v Speaker 1>after you, and I'm sure he earned your respect right away.

0:33:40.960 --> 0:33:43.800
<v Speaker 1>I mean, that's that's what a guy like Woods can do. Yeah,

0:33:43.840 --> 0:33:45.520
<v Speaker 1>you don't have to go punch him. Guys in the face,

0:33:45.560 --> 0:33:47.520
<v Speaker 1>but I think Travis was kind of challenging him, and

0:33:47.520 --> 0:33:48.760
<v Speaker 1>he was like, all right, I'm not scared of you.

0:33:48.840 --> 0:33:50.560
<v Speaker 1>I don't care all your Pro Bowls and stuff. I'm

0:33:50.560 --> 0:33:52.120
<v Speaker 1>not scared of you. Which is a good thing. Yeah,

0:33:52.120 --> 0:33:54.040
<v Speaker 1>it's a good thing. But don't punch him again, No,

0:33:54.200 --> 0:33:58.640
<v Speaker 1>I yeah, to take not to take anything away from him,

0:33:58.720 --> 0:34:01.080
<v Speaker 1>but we talked about it. There's a guy like this

0:34:01.200 --> 0:34:05.280
<v Speaker 1>every year. Uh, Lewis Neil Chanil Jenkins, Davon Coleman was

0:34:05.320 --> 0:34:10.600
<v Speaker 1>a guy. Oh yeah, but it's a great start. Area

0:34:10.640 --> 0:34:12.680
<v Speaker 1>to the games. But I think what I think the

0:34:12.800 --> 0:34:17.319
<v Speaker 1>difference in him is we we I expected a little

0:34:17.320 --> 0:34:19.400
<v Speaker 1>bit more from Neil and I'm not giving up on

0:34:19.480 --> 0:34:24.000
<v Speaker 1>Lewis Neil uh because pass Russia. What they wanted was

0:34:24.040 --> 0:34:27.640
<v Speaker 1>a one technique or three technique that's very, very active.

0:34:28.200 --> 0:34:33.080
<v Speaker 1>What this guy is a one technique that's he's active,

0:34:33.200 --> 0:34:36.840
<v Speaker 1>but he's a run stopper and you can't have But

0:34:36.920 --> 0:34:40.000
<v Speaker 1>I don't care what nobody say. You can't have everybody

0:34:40.280 --> 0:34:43.440
<v Speaker 1>run stopper first. That's why we have no pass Russian, right,

0:34:43.480 --> 0:34:46.240
<v Speaker 1>you gotta have some guys that are good at Russian

0:34:46.280 --> 0:34:49.319
<v Speaker 1>and Parson. This guy will eat up by this because

0:34:49.360 --> 0:34:52.000
<v Speaker 1>he's gonna bull bull bull, whether it's a run, whether

0:34:52.040 --> 0:34:54.280
<v Speaker 1>it's a pass. And that's where he's gonna be effective

0:34:54.320 --> 0:34:58.640
<v Speaker 1>at just one dimensional, going to get it, tough guy,

0:34:58.800 --> 0:35:02.240
<v Speaker 1>eat up blocks. I like it again. I mean that's

0:35:02.320 --> 0:35:05.680
<v Speaker 1>hey playing on Thursday, carried to the game. Will Ruh

0:35:06.040 --> 0:35:11.759
<v Speaker 1>talk to him Lebron. I mean, like the practices out

0:35:11.800 --> 0:35:13.720
<v Speaker 1>here are like the regular season, and you know Lebron

0:35:13.760 --> 0:35:16.080
<v Speaker 1>doesn't care about that, like it's about the playoffs. It's

0:35:16.120 --> 0:35:19.520
<v Speaker 1>about the game, babe. The aus about when it matters.

0:35:19.520 --> 0:35:23.279
<v Speaker 1>You got Human Log baby Antoine Woods sixty four, The

0:35:23.360 --> 0:35:26.759
<v Speaker 1>Human Log. You'll do anything for a free meal? Yes,

0:35:27.040 --> 0:35:32.799
<v Speaker 1>absolutely so. Do we have a show tomorrow? Yes you do. Yeah,

0:35:32.920 --> 0:35:35.480
<v Speaker 1>it's growing in us again. Yeah, we'll be back tomorrow.

0:35:35.520 --> 0:35:39.759
<v Speaker 1>And I smells some stinking fish Steeler fans. I smell them.

0:35:39.920 --> 0:35:45.400
<v Speaker 1>They smell them mile way and they steak like a

0:35:45.520 --> 0:35:50.160
<v Speaker 1>youth football team called the Steelers, probably from somewhere, you know,

0:35:50.280 --> 0:35:56.040
<v Speaker 1>really nearby at the Pittsburgh Steelers. They got the Colors Sacramento. Awesome,

0:35:56.440 --> 0:36:01.080
<v Speaker 1>Well tomorrow we'll be back around. I really hope that,

0:36:01.480 --> 0:36:04.640
<v Speaker 1>I really hope that that is not the case. Is

0:36:04.680 --> 0:36:07.919
<v Speaker 1>that promise you there? All? Make sure joining tomorrow we'll

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<v Speaker 1>discuss the preview. We'll give a preview to the game.

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<v Speaker 1>Nick for Nickman, Nate David Amman. I remember your CS

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<v Speaker 1>you guys tomorrow at ten am. This was Cowboy's Break.

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<v Speaker 1>and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club.