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Speaker 1: Your tune's about drive on your twenty four to seven

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Speaker 1: home of the Black and Goal Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 2: Good evening, Stealer Nation. How we doing? Yeah? Us two

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Speaker 2: our number two here on the drive on your twenty

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Speaker 2: four to seven home of the Black and Gold West Shooler.

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Speaker 2: Matt Williamson with you on a jam packed Monday, jam

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Speaker 2: packed week twelve around the National Football League. Matt, what

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Speaker 2: do you say?

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Speaker 1: We?

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Speaker 2: Uh? You want to kind of the run the gambit

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Speaker 2: here and and talk about some of these other games around.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, there's some new round. His coordinators getting let gos.

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Speaker 3: You know, should Or Sanders is named the starter. McCarthy's

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Speaker 3: got a concussion. I don't think he's gonna be playing

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Speaker 3: this week. I mean a lot happening on this Monday

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Speaker 3: when a lot of these rough teams are in a

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Speaker 3: lot worse shape than Steelers.

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Speaker 2: Also, I don't know if you saw the news that

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Speaker 2: the Bengals are anticipating Joe Burrow playing on Thanksgiving on Thursday.

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Speaker 3: I did see that, which is kind of exciting, and

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Speaker 3: that gives him a better chance to beat the Ravens.

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Speaker 3: You guys are everyone's rooting for the Bengals here now

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Speaker 3: Higgins suffered a pretty nasty immediately ruled out concussion that

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Speaker 3: I would be. There's no way he's playing through right, right,

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Speaker 3: but chased maybe chasing a little wound up after getting

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Speaker 3: uh it's true, suspended.

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Speaker 2: Last week to for a week, and he gets his

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Speaker 3: Ravens don't look the same. They really struggled with the Jets,

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Speaker 3: Like I'm trying to like instill hope that it shouldn't

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Speaker 3: be there. They're playing better than Steelers, don't get me wrong,

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Speaker 3: but they're not this powerhouse I thought they were going

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Speaker 2: I was gonna say, he's going on with that knee,

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Speaker 2: and hey, maybe that'll end up being the difference down

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Speaker 2: the stretch. Yeah, we'll obviously wait and see.

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Speaker 3: But yeah, but since he could win that game.

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Speaker 2: Since he certainly certainly could, that's the night game.

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Speaker 3: I think that's a last one.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, there's actually a pretty good slate of games on Thursday,

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Speaker 2: and there's a game Friday, and there's a game the

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Speaker 2: Black Friday Game as well too. Baby. Yeah, so let's

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Speaker 2: let's run the gambit here and then we'll get into

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Speaker 2: some some more of the specific news stories and and

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Speaker 2: things that have leaked out since, you know, the last

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Speaker 2: twenty four hours or so. Here Patriots get it done.

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Speaker 2: Speaking of the Bengals twenty six to twenty ten and two,

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Speaker 2: the New England Patriots, Matt have not lost since. I mean,

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Speaker 2: you talked about how that Seattle game feels or Jets

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Speaker 2: game feels forever ago, so does that win in Foxborough.

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Speaker 2: But the Patriots keep humming. They are undefeated, a perfect

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Speaker 2: six and zero on the road, probably a little tighter

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Speaker 2: than they wanted, but they going to Cincinnati and get

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and hey, any ready road win, you know, is

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Speaker 3: not an easy accomplishment in this league. But I bet

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Speaker 3: they're not thrilled with how they played there. They lost

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Speaker 3: their left tackle, you know which, their first round pick

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Speaker 3: for an extended stretch. It might it might be the year,

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Speaker 3: might be, you know, playoffs, who knows, but for a

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Speaker 3: I mean early pick at Campbell and frankly, they didn't

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Speaker 3: not saying they're coming back to Earth or anything like that.

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Speaker 3: But and the Bengals d was a little bit better,

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Speaker 3: the Patriots. You know, it's just I'm just trying to

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Speaker 3: figure out the AFC packing. Yeah, it's really hard right now.

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Speaker 2: It's very bizarre. I mean, they have the best record

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Speaker 2: half game lead over Buffalo, three game lead over Buffalo.

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Speaker 2: That's impressive at this point for them. You know, the

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Speaker 3: Denver did a week ago, but Denver.

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Speaker 2: Was off they were off this week. So so so

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Speaker 2: England hasn't had their boy, I think you are it

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Speaker 3: Now it might be this week. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Uh. In one of the crazier games of the weekend,

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Speaker 2: I think everybody thought the Lions would beat the Giants,

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Speaker 2: Jamis Winston caught a touchdown pass the Giants. Crazy crazy play. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: Like a football player, right, not like a you know,

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Speaker 2: The Lions, though, was scary for them for a little bit,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and really, the story here is Jamior Gibbs just

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Speaker 2: Did you say Wes just had him number two on

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Speaker 2: He's the last person I would want to see. He's

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Speaker 3: even more and advantageous waves. But they did have a scare.

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Speaker 3: The Giants are playing tough. They are so I just

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Speaker 3: far from exact, but almost all their rushing productive production

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Speaker 2: He's one of the more underrated players of the last

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Speaker 2: Packers get it done. They roll at home against the Vikings.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that's kind of what we've been waiting

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Speaker 2: It does, Yeah, it sure does. Is Yeah JJ McCarthy concussion.

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Speaker 3: Just such a disappointing season after all the wins last year.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and the Titans had a return for a touchdown

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Speaker 3: which kind of inflated things a little bit. But cam

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Speaker 3: Ward played really well, Yes he did. Like so some

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Speaker 3: And I think Ward is ups and down. It'sn'ting me wrong,

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Speaker 2: Did you see this kind of mean thing between some

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Speaker 2: Titans is some some Titans account like reposted that it

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Speaker 2: It was like two enthusiastic thumbs up.

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Speaker 2: Don't have to like jump it. You can entertain offers. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: That's what I was thing. They might get the best

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Speaker 2: Maybe a Day two pick for the future.

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Speaker 3: Right, right, So at least there's that, you know, despite.

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Speaker 2: in ten, I think you could see things going in

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Speaker 2: have a good offseason, They got to hire the right

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Speaker 2: head come but it happens. But cam Ward seems like

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Speaker 2: a big piece of that puzzle. Massive and and you

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Speaker 2: gotta be at least encouraged about that if you're in Nashville.

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Speaker 2: Speaking of massive Matt for the Chiefs man, they needed

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Speaker 2: a huge fourth quarter to force overtime they get it

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Speaker 2: done six and five, staying alive as they beat the

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Speaker 2: Colts at home in overtime twenty three to twenty.

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Speaker 3: Colts looked like they had them where they wanted them.

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Speaker 3: I mean, there's two games to come behind like. It

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Speaker 3: looked like the Eagles had that game and control. Looked

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Speaker 3: they didn't, until they didn't. Racey Rice is making big plays.

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Speaker 3: But to me, that was all about Mahomes. I mean

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Speaker 3: it's like, oh, I remember when he used to just

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Speaker 3: like takeover playoff games and being unstoppable Thanos Force.

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Speaker 2: Yes, right, Yeah, that was much needed for him, much needed.

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Speaker 3: For cam as a city, and they're very much alive.

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Speaker 2: Matt three hundred and fifty two yards passing for Mahomes. Wow,

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Speaker 2: I mean didn't have a touchdown pass, but still.

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Speaker 3: He was not taking no for an answer.

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Speaker 2: He was not taking no for an answer, that's for sure.

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Speaker 2: As again, the Chiefs still work to be done, but

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Speaker 3: I think the Raiders are the worst team in the league.

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Speaker 2: And Gino got sacked ten times.

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Speaker 2: Unbelievable.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and you can they pick up stunts and things poorly.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I know. I think they are the worst team.

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Speaker 2: Yes, one. To keep an eye on the Jags ever

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Speaker 2: Yeah, time for a time to lounge on the couch

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Speaker 2: That's a tough one.

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Speaker 2: What these next two with Kansas City and Detroit and

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Speaker 3: I mean they're probably a dog at home, but short

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Speaker 3: That might be that losing that's a different from.

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Speaker 2: season at this point, Matt, the Falcons take care of business.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. I don't have much on this one. I mean,

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Speaker 2: That's about it. That's it's about it. Give give a

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Speaker 3: Was over in five seconds. They're the best team in

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Speaker 3: the league and them night. Now, I don't think it's

438
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Speaker 3: particularly close.

439
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Speaker 2: Throughout that whole second quarter, I kept telling myself, I'm

440
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Speaker 2: not going to go to bed. You know this is

441
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Speaker 2: the Bucks will get back into this one, will make

442
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Speaker 2: it interesting. It's like I'm going to bed.

443
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Speaker 3: I mean, Stafford Nakua Adams is ridiculous. They really don't

444
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Speaker 3: have any weaknesses right now. Defense is playing great. Stafford's

445
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Speaker 3: the MVP. I mean, Bucks, Bucks probably still win the division,

446
00:20:53,160 --> 00:20:55,760
Speaker 3: although Carolina wins the night they should be working, which

447
00:20:55,760 --> 00:20:59,280
Speaker 3: was weird, but right they're so beat up though. Baker's

448
00:20:59,320 --> 00:21:01,760
Speaker 3: banged up and they've had a lot of injuries in Tampa.

449
00:21:01,800 --> 00:21:03,320
Speaker 3: I kind of feel for that organization.

450
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Speaker 2: If Carolina wins tonight, which is a tall task there

451
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Speaker 2: is in San fran and a Niners team that needs

452
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Speaker 2: a win to kind of keep pace in that division,

453
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Speaker 2: in that playoff outlook in the NFC as well. The

454
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Speaker 2: Panthers would be half a game out of the Bucks

455
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Speaker 2: if they wont tonight.

456
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Speaker 3: Though I know it's crazy, it's nuts, it's.

457
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Speaker 2: Crazy, but San Francisco's seven and a half point favorites.

458
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Speaker 2: We might as well since we're just talking about it here,

459
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Speaker 2: you taken the points or you lay. I might lay

460
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Speaker 2: them with San Francisco.

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Speaker 3: I think I won Carolina in the points, yeah, just

462
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Speaker 3: because they run the ball well and San Franz d

463
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Speaker 3: is pretty it's over seven, right, seven and a half,

464
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Speaker 3: seven and a half, Yeah, to me, that's a lot.

465
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Speaker 3: That is a lot I like san Franzo right now.

466
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, hey, I keep waiting for the Panthers

467
00:21:45,000 --> 00:21:46,680
Speaker 2: to turn into a pumpkin, and to their credit, that

468
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Speaker 2: doesn't happen yet.

469
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Speaker 3: This season they have a coach to the smarts. Yeah yeah, yeah.

470
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Speaker 2: Smart play there was speaking of which.

471
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Speaker 3: Those two coincidental. Those were both Bucks offensive coordinators that

472
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Speaker 3: took head jobs. And they look like they're doing a

473
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Speaker 3: really good job. And I and.

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Speaker 2: Both the Bucks and the Lions struggling a little bit

475
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Speaker 2: compared to where people thought they would be this year

476
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Speaker 2: after losing. Yeah, four between them, very talented Corda.

477
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Speaker 3: We say Todd Bowles did a great job in company,

478
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Speaker 3: did a great job hiring offense coordinator. And then another

479
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Speaker 3: one this third one though I don't know, I only

480
00:22:19,400 --> 00:22:21,240
Speaker 3: got three in a row. Right. It's tough. Yeah, yeah,

481
00:22:21,400 --> 00:22:22,320
Speaker 3: that's that's a tough chore.

482
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Speaker 2: It's it's it's very tough. It is. Hey, It's one thing,

483
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Speaker 2: like if you're winning a Super Bowl and you're losing

484
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Speaker 2: your coordinators, you're like, okay, we get it. It's another one.

485
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Speaker 2: You feel like you're getting closer, and yeah, that's that's

486
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Speaker 2: tough to overcome. It certainly is more around the league,

487
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Speaker 2: more on the Steelers, maybe some of your tweets as

488
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Speaker 2: well too, before we get up out of here. Wes Shooler,

489
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Speaker 2: Matt Williamson, It's the Drive on Steelers Nation Radio on

490
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Speaker 2: the Steelers Audio Network.

491
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Speaker 1: Your tunes about Drive on your twenty four to seven

492
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Speaker 1: home of the Black and Goal, Steelers Nation Radio.

493
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Speaker 2: A few more teas to cross and eyes to dot

494
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Speaker 2: around the National Football League, Matt. Dylan Gabriel cleared, but

495
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Speaker 2: Shudor Sanders will stay as Brown as QB one. I

496
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Speaker 2: this is the right, right for Cleveland, right.

497
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Speaker 3: It's it's I think it's kind of the plan all

498
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Speaker 3: along was Dylan Gabriel has picked first. Let's see what

499
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Speaker 3: he can do. Unless he blows your doors off. Let's

500
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Speaker 3: at least you have to see both throughout the course

501
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Speaker 3: of the year, especially their draft resources. So I don't

502
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Speaker 3: give the Browns a ton of compliments, but I actually

503
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Speaker 3: kind of think they've handled this pretty well, you know,

504
00:23:45,400 --> 00:23:48,080
Speaker 3: and getting Flacco out of the equation kind of made

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Speaker 3: it easier to you.

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Speaker 2: Know, completely agree. And I mean Kenny Pickett as well too,

507
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Speaker 2: like we need.

508
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Speaker 3: To at least evaluate we forget it.

509
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Speaker 2: At one point we were all talking about they've got

510
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Speaker 2: on the froster or in the organization. They've got Flacco, Pickett, Watson. Yeah,

511
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Speaker 2: and then they drafted.

512
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Speaker 3: To like Watson actually went on this road trips, the

513
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Speaker 3: first road trip he's been on.

514
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Speaker 2: I didn't see that.

515
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Speaker 3: They just wanted to go to Vegas.

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Speaker 2: Hey, worst place is to spend a week. Especially in November,

517
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Speaker 2: Matt we We mentioned Chip Kelly fired as the OFFENSI

518
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Speaker 2: according to the Raiders. Shane Bowen also dismissed as defensive

519
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Speaker 2: coordinator of the New York Giants.

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Speaker 3: The Giants have fired a head coach and a defensive coordinator. Now,

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Speaker 3: I think they actually have good talent on defense, especially

522
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Speaker 3: the front line.

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Speaker 2: I was just going to say that the front is

524
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Speaker 2: one of the more talented units in the NFL.

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Speaker 3: And it's a pretty darn bad defense. It's not a

526
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Speaker 3: horrible job though for the next group. You know, same

527
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Speaker 3: with Tennessee.

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Speaker 2: And I mean again, it's the Jackson Dark thing. How

529
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Speaker 2: much you like him, but they're going to hire a

530
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Speaker 2: coach who likes him, of course, of course, or at least.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I wouldn't be blown away if he gets

532
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Speaker 3: a crack Lane Kiffin. He's been linked right can I can?

533
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Speaker 2: I can? I just tell you guys this. I've got sources.

534
00:25:05,520 --> 00:25:08,800
Speaker 2: I've got a little birdies at L s U and

535
00:25:08,920 --> 00:25:12,840
Speaker 2: Florida that are both convinced that they're getting Lane Kiffin.

536
00:25:13,800 --> 00:25:15,720
Speaker 2: Like in a few days, he's going to coach the

537
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Speaker 2: Egg Bowl, which is their big rivalry against Mississippi State

538
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Speaker 2: on Friday, and then it's going to be announced where

539
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Speaker 2: he's going next.

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Speaker 3: They're not playoff? Would they might take the playoff?

541
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Speaker 2: Which would throw a real wrench into the thing. I mean,

542
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Speaker 2: they're ranked like sixth right now, I think, so, you

543
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Speaker 2: know they're they're not gonna play for an SEC championship.

544
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Speaker 3: Game, but they still could be alive after.

545
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Speaker 2: Oh absolutely, I mean there could be five or six

546
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Speaker 2: SEC teams that go to the playoff. Well maybe we'll

547
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Speaker 2: a little bit on Wednesday. But it is funny L

548
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Speaker 2: s U and Florida both now are convinced that they're

549
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Speaker 2: getting Lane Kiffin. And uh, I'm sure that will end

550
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Speaker 2: out well and respectful as everybody. Maybe he will, And

551
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Speaker 2: wouldn't that be funny he just ends up in New

552
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Speaker 2: York regardless. Matt JJ McCarthy in concussion protocol? Could this

553
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Speaker 2: be it for him? In Minnesota. I mean, listen, it's

554
00:26:09,520 --> 00:26:12,679
Speaker 2: been historically bad. Really, like we were let his his

555
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Speaker 2: for guys who qualify that have played so many snaps

556
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Speaker 2: his EPA. Out of eight hundred and fifty some eligible

557
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Speaker 2: quarterbacks in the twenty first century, it's like last, dead last,

558
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Speaker 2: except for JaMarcus Russell, the most notorious draft bust of

559
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Speaker 2: all time. Yes, I will say though, like he's only

560
00:26:30,600 --> 00:26:32,840
Speaker 2: started what like eight or nine games in the NFL,

561
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Speaker 2: and he's still pretty small. But man, it does not

562
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Speaker 2: look good.

563
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Speaker 3: I don't know what will happen the rest of the year.

564
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Speaker 3: I'm sure he won't play this week. Maybe this concussion

565
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Speaker 3: is very convenient. I mean he saved him from himself

566
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Speaker 3: in a way. I mean I thought they could have

567
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Speaker 3: brought him back quicker than they did the last injury.

568
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Speaker 3: I feel like they have other great options this year,

569
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Speaker 3: but there are season a shot. I would bet everything

570
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Speaker 3: I have that it's McCarthy and Kyler Murty.

571
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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, something another first round pick.

572
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Speaker 3: I bet it's a veteran, a reclamation project, or somebody

573
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Speaker 3: that's had some success, you know, something like that.

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Speaker 2: Next year interesting and that crop of those type of

575
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Speaker 2: Kyler Murray quarterbacks doesn't seem to.

576
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Speaker 3: Be now, I'm not even sure who they are.

577
00:27:16,960 --> 00:27:18,919
Speaker 2: Like, you wouldn't put Kirk Cousins in that group anymore,

578
00:27:18,920 --> 00:27:20,960
Speaker 2: You wouldn't pt Gino Smith in that group anymore.

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Speaker 3: Daniel Jones isn't going anywhere.

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Speaker 2: Jones.

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Speaker 3: The only thing I can think of.

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Speaker 2: R Kyler and Flacco is so old now that like.

583
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Speaker 3: Right, maybe Mac Jones you could trade for Mac Jones. Yeah, yeah,

584
00:27:32,000 --> 00:27:34,280
Speaker 3: he's one name. I think he'll be a starter somewhere.

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Speaker 3: I don't know if Tua moves now, but I thought

586
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Speaker 3: maybe Tua or Kyler, but I think Kyler would be

587
00:27:39,640 --> 00:27:41,760
Speaker 3: on the move Matt.

588
00:27:42,440 --> 00:27:45,480
Speaker 2: We mentioned one of them. But a couple of significant

589
00:27:45,680 --> 00:27:50,760
Speaker 2: left tackle injuries, the Patriots lose Campbell, although they are

590
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Speaker 2: quote optimistic he will return this season. Cowboys, this one

591
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Speaker 2: could loom large for Thursday. On a short week, Geyiton

592
00:27:58,800 --> 00:28:02,359
Speaker 2: has been described as out against the Kansas City's Chiefs.

593
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Speaker 2: On that short week.

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Speaker 3: He's been moderately successful. You know, he's from the Fulton

595
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Speaker 3: who tackle class. It was reloaded. I would have went

596
00:28:10,720 --> 00:28:15,440
Speaker 3: earlier than that. If it wasn't a loaded class, they

597
00:28:15,440 --> 00:28:18,480
Speaker 3: could probably live with it, except that that's a nasty

598
00:28:18,520 --> 00:28:20,159
Speaker 3: group of pass rushers they're playing against?

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Speaker 2: Boy, is it ever?

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Speaker 3: Oh no, they just played the Eagles. I was Chiefs.

601
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Speaker 3: Aren't that crazy? They're playing Kansas City coming up? Yes, yeah, okay,

602
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Speaker 3: I was. I was thinking that the Eagles is when

603
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Speaker 3: I was Cowboy.

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00:28:29,680 --> 00:28:31,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know, Cowboys and Chiefs on Thursday.

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00:28:31,560 --> 00:28:34,800
Speaker 3: Yeah. They don't have a great group of rushers, they

606
00:28:34,840 --> 00:28:37,000
Speaker 3: do not, but it's a good it's a good team.

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Speaker 2: It's a good Yeah, that's that's true. Although I wonder

608
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Speaker 2: if that's one of those where kind of Chris Jones

609
00:28:41,200 --> 00:28:43,720
Speaker 2: is like, oh, maybe line up over there if.

610
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Speaker 3: He's uh, I'm sure he'll do some of that.

611
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Speaker 2: If he's if he's not uh not returning to to

612
00:28:49,080 --> 00:28:52,480
Speaker 2: action on this on this short week. But yeah, I

613
00:28:52,480 --> 00:28:54,840
Speaker 2: mean there are a lot of injuries across the NFL.

614
00:28:54,920 --> 00:28:57,760
Speaker 2: I mean a lot for the Steelers, Matt you know too.

615
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Speaker 3: We haven't even touched on it, like, but that's more

616
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Speaker 3: of a Tuesday conversation for us.

617
00:29:01,800 --> 00:29:03,680
Speaker 2: But we'll get more into it obviously when we hear

618
00:29:03,720 --> 00:29:05,480
Speaker 2: with Mike tom on us to say tomorrow. But Roger

619
00:29:05,640 --> 00:29:08,880
Speaker 2: Jones exits and ends up on street clothes. Not a

620
00:29:08,920 --> 00:29:11,080
Speaker 2: great on the sideline and street close. Not a great sign.

621
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Speaker 2: Joey Porter Junior exits and ends up on the sideline

622
00:29:14,320 --> 00:29:16,280
Speaker 2: and street clothes, not a great sign.

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Speaker 3: We did get our answer to Pierre versus Slay, though

624
00:29:19,400 --> 00:29:22,200
Speaker 3: it was Pierre pretty bad. Slay just came in when

625
00:29:22,400 --> 00:29:27,680
Speaker 3: as a replacement for ford Er. Basically it was I

626
00:29:27,680 --> 00:29:30,600
Speaker 3: think that's how it went. I mean, just watching on, Yeah,

627
00:29:31,120 --> 00:29:32,000
Speaker 3: it absolutely did.

628
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Speaker 2: I don't think we even saw Sleay.

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Speaker 3: I'm not sure the injury.

630
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Speaker 2: Until the enjury, I think he was just stay backup.

631
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Speaker 2: And so that was one of those hey, you know,

632
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Speaker 2: we'll wait and see what they say. You know, what

633
00:29:44,000 --> 00:29:46,000
Speaker 2: they said was one thing, but what's late, wait and

634
00:29:46,000 --> 00:29:50,040
Speaker 2: see how they deploy them, And it was it was

635
00:29:50,160 --> 00:29:52,440
Speaker 2: very clearly Pierre. I think we saw some of that.

636
00:29:53,120 --> 00:29:54,560
Speaker 2: We were talking about that a couple of weeks ago,

637
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Speaker 2: with the usage of Roman Wilson and Calvin Austin, Like

638
00:29:56,560 --> 00:29:58,520
Speaker 2: Calvin Austin might be the one who gets introduced as

639
00:29:58,520 --> 00:30:02,720
Speaker 2: a starter by Larry Richard at Akroscher Stadium, not a

640
00:30:02,760 --> 00:30:07,760
Speaker 2: Memphis number nine Austin. But Roman Wilson ends up, you know,

641
00:30:08,280 --> 00:30:10,520
Speaker 2: three times a snap count or whatever it was the

642
00:30:10,600 --> 00:30:11,280
Speaker 2: other week.

643
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Speaker 3: And then they went back to Austin a lot heavier passion.

644
00:30:13,400 --> 00:30:14,880
Speaker 2: And then they went back to Austin a lot heavier

645
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Speaker 2: this week.

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Speaker 3: I forgot we didn't talk about this because I did

647
00:30:17,040 --> 00:30:19,560
Speaker 3: on the other show. To me, that just screams that

648
00:30:19,600 --> 00:30:23,720
Speaker 3: they're searching. They're searching, and I don't mean that in

649
00:30:23,760 --> 00:30:27,120
Speaker 3: a good way at all. I Yeah, concur like neither's

650
00:30:27,160 --> 00:30:29,160
Speaker 3: the answer. You know, they're not.

651
00:30:29,480 --> 00:30:34,000
Speaker 2: And when you combine the you know, the DK stuff too,

652
00:30:34,040 --> 00:30:36,360
Speaker 2: it's not a great place to be. No, we could.

653
00:30:36,480 --> 00:30:37,840
Speaker 3: They need more from their receiver room.

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Speaker 2: They need more from their receiver room. They need they

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Speaker 2: need more from everybody on offense in general, but especially

656
00:30:44,680 --> 00:30:49,280
Speaker 2: from those who aren't on the offensive line or running backs. Yeah,

657
00:30:50,600 --> 00:30:53,040
Speaker 2: getting better and I'm not saying they're Ammona Lisa, but

658
00:30:53,480 --> 00:30:55,600
Speaker 2: getting better and better where.

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Speaker 3: Well blows me away. I mean, like every chance he's

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Speaker 3: like better than the next time.

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Speaker 2: You know, he's been very It's almost remember when I

662
00:31:04,360 --> 00:31:06,400
Speaker 2: think you said this sometime when we were like out

663
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Speaker 2: in Dublin or maybe when we came back for the

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00:31:08,040 --> 00:31:10,760
Speaker 2: bye week, you were like, Jalen Warrens, this team's leading

665
00:31:10,760 --> 00:31:13,040
Speaker 2: wide receiver and that's not a good thing. But it's

666
00:31:13,040 --> 00:31:13,920
Speaker 2: a testament to him.

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00:31:14,040 --> 00:31:14,240
Speaker 3: Yeah.

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00:31:14,320 --> 00:31:17,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, Kenneth Gainwell is their most reliable playmaker right now.

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Speaker 2: And it's not a good thing, but it's a testament

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Speaker 2: to him.

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Speaker 3: It's kind of like Boz is great, but I don't

672
00:31:22,320 --> 00:31:24,520
Speaker 3: want to be the MVP conversation we have all the time,

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00:31:24,600 --> 00:31:25,040
Speaker 3: right right.

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Speaker 2: He continues to make plays when he gets opportunities.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but man, really nice edition.

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Speaker 2: And I still think Jalen Warren, especially dealing with an

677
00:31:33,000 --> 00:31:35,400
Speaker 2: ankle injury, has been has been good, has been fine

678
00:31:35,400 --> 00:31:35,680
Speaker 2: as bad.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, this isn't a Gainwell is better than Warren conversations.

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00:31:38,800 --> 00:31:41,160
Speaker 2: Just game Well's good Aside from those offensive linemen and

681
00:31:41,200 --> 00:31:44,040
Speaker 2: those two running backs. I need more from the wide receivers.

682
00:31:44,120 --> 00:31:45,800
Speaker 2: I need more from the tight ends. I need more

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Speaker 2: from the quarterback play.

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Speaker 3: Oh a thousand percent. Now I am curious what we

685
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Speaker 3: get from Rogers now.

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00:31:52,040 --> 00:31:52,400
Speaker 2: Totally.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, week off totally.

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Speaker 2: You know, let's there's some renewed op. Like if he

689
00:31:56,720 --> 00:31:59,760
Speaker 2: would have played on Sunday and struggled again, there would

690
00:31:59,800 --> 00:32:02,360
Speaker 2: have been two camps. The first would have been, well,

691
00:32:02,400 --> 00:32:05,040
Speaker 2: he's not one hundred percent healthy, It's okay, it's fine.

692
00:32:05,080 --> 00:32:07,280
Speaker 2: He was playing through a wrist injury, and I'm sure

693
00:32:07,320 --> 00:32:09,200
Speaker 2: there was probably some truth to that, and it always is,

694
00:32:10,240 --> 00:32:13,080
Speaker 2: or it would have been. He's fallen apart, he's washed.

695
00:32:14,600 --> 00:32:17,560
Speaker 3: Russell Wilson there all the time now, blah blah blah.

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00:32:17,600 --> 00:32:19,720
Speaker 2: I'm kind of glad that we had a reset point

697
00:32:20,120 --> 00:32:22,680
Speaker 2: and now I think we'll get a clear and it's

698
00:32:22,720 --> 00:32:24,440
Speaker 2: now observation and.

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Speaker 3: It's one performance. But I would have liked their chance

700
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Speaker 3: to win that game better with Rodgers.

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Speaker 2: Maybe that maybe that illegal formation, illegal shift at the

702
00:32:34,320 --> 00:32:39,840
Speaker 2: end of the game doesn't happen with Rogers. Yeah, that

703
00:32:39,960 --> 00:32:42,800
Speaker 2: was That was a telling moment. And in that regard

704
00:32:42,840 --> 00:32:46,040
Speaker 2: between a good quarterback and Mason Rudolph and an all

705
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Speaker 2: time great and a guy like.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, it probably would have been better.

707
00:32:52,720 --> 00:32:56,240
Speaker 2: I think it definitely would have been better. That's not

708
00:32:56,280 --> 00:32:58,600
Speaker 2: even to say that Mason was terrible, but in a

709
00:32:58,760 --> 00:33:02,640
Speaker 2: in a thin margin game like that, throws an interception,

710
00:33:02,800 --> 00:33:07,400
Speaker 2: has the the the the stripsack fumble. Maybe Rogers avoids

711
00:33:07,440 --> 00:33:09,800
Speaker 2: one of those turnovers and it's one instead of two.

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Speaker 3: Frankly, I expected more from Rudolph going into the game

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Speaker 3: than what we got.

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Speaker 2: I agree, yeah, but I don't think it was all

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Speaker 2: on him no time. I don't think the Titan the Titans.

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00:33:18,840 --> 00:33:21,240
Speaker 2: I don't think the tight ends, pardon me, or the

717
00:33:21,240 --> 00:33:24,120
Speaker 2: wide receivers helped him out very much. Forty and slipped

718
00:33:24,120 --> 00:33:26,640
Speaker 2: there with Mason was a Titan.

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Speaker 3: Well, tight end, Titans, Titan warn.

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Speaker 2: Whatever I reached, I'm reaching too much with that one.

721
00:33:32,120 --> 00:33:37,320
Speaker 2: But yeah, I I that's against a Bill's defense too.

722
00:33:37,400 --> 00:33:41,360
Speaker 2: That is not the greatest Han't haven't covered themselves in

723
00:33:41,440 --> 00:33:44,600
Speaker 2: glory as of later throughout most of the season, but

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Speaker 2: obviously we'll have plenty of time to discuss all of

725
00:33:46,520 --> 00:33:48,160
Speaker 2: that as we roll along.

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Speaker 3: Matt.

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Speaker 2: I think that's about it in terms of our around

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Speaker 2: the League Week twelve conversation. Let's take our last break

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00:33:54,560 --> 00:33:56,400
Speaker 2: here when we return on the other side. Some final

730
00:33:56,440 --> 00:33:59,400
Speaker 2: Steelers thoughts, some tweets to get us out of here

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00:33:59,480 --> 00:34:02,800
Speaker 2: as well. Matt Williamson west Huler. It is the Drive

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Speaker 2: on Steelers Nation Radio on the Steelers Audio Network.

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Speaker 1: Your tune is about Drive on your twenty four to

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Speaker 1: seven home of the Black and Goal Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 2: Down the home stretch, your final segment on a Monday. Matt,

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Speaker 2: you're usually better about this than I am. But before

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Speaker 2: I forget a little housekeeping for everybody. No show Thursday

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Speaker 2: this week because of Thanksgiving. I think we at least

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00:34:49,040 --> 00:34:53,239
Speaker 2: deserve that with our families, but will be doing the

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Speaker 2: darn war usual programming every other day. We will have

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Speaker 2: Black Friday shows of course Wednesday show. So if you're

742
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743
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Speaker 3: I'm sure a lot of you guys are in cars

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Speaker 3: or airplanes or whatever, so extra time, just you know,

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Speaker 3: listen in motes.

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Speaker 2: Used to make this joke, like every holiday season. He'd

748
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Speaker 3: They'll thank you, whether they know or not.

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00:35:34,560 --> 00:35:35,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly.

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Speaker 3: Just take after they pass out, after all the trip

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Speaker 3: to Fan.

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00:35:39,719 --> 00:35:42,880
Speaker 2: All that, all that SPIKEE punch. You know, your your

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Speaker 2: nieces and nephews, your cousins, your aunts and uncles. Just

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Speaker 2: grab their phone, you know, subscribe to the Drive and

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Speaker 2: and and make their holiday season even brighter. Matt some

761
00:35:51,920 --> 00:35:55,319
Speaker 2: tweets to get us on up out of here on

762
00:35:55,560 --> 00:35:58,880
Speaker 2: this Monday, angry bike Lane tweets us. I can imagine

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00:35:58,880 --> 00:36:02,040
Speaker 2: he's angry. Is there any excuse for the Steelers ignoring

764
00:36:02,120 --> 00:36:04,520
Speaker 2: the middle of the field, particularly considering all of the

765
00:36:04,560 --> 00:36:08,160
Speaker 2: injuries to the Bears. Ain't that the million dollar question?

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Speaker 3: Cousin, Well, let me go backwards in a minute here.

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Speaker 2: With a thousand dollars question if I want to be.

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Speaker 3: Over there?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he's right. Only members as well. Subscribe on YouTube

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Speaker 2: and really watch our videos. Okay, I mean all these other.

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00:36:23,719 --> 00:36:25,879
Speaker 3: I'll be honest, I should have chewed out Steel Nation

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00:36:25,960 --> 00:36:28,960
Speaker 3: a little bit by well before this. Go to YouTube

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Speaker 3: and just hit the subscribe button. I mean I never

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Speaker 3: asked people to do that stuff when any of my podcasts.

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Speaker 2: Or outlet, but especially our video too, well watch.

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00:36:35,320 --> 00:36:36,359
Speaker 3: It too, but yeah, but.

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Speaker 2: Subscribe, So he's dude, on the YouTube and watch our

778
00:36:40,160 --> 00:36:42,520
Speaker 2: We all know, the Aaron Rodgers press conference, the sight

779
00:36:42,600 --> 00:36:45,160
Speaker 2: and sounds, It gets all the love rightfully. So yeah,

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00:36:45,200 --> 00:36:46,400
Speaker 2: but you know, don't you want to see Matt and

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Speaker 2: I's handsome mugs here as well?

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Speaker 3: Get on it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, help make make get Tyler a nice Christmas bonus

784
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Speaker 2: and show us some video, show us some video love

785
00:36:54,800 --> 00:36:59,640
Speaker 2: as well. Uh Matt Millfield sixty four thousand dollars. Question,

786
00:36:59,800 --> 00:37:04,520
Speaker 2: is it's a massive We know that it's something quarterback coordinator.

787
00:37:04,920 --> 00:37:07,360
Speaker 2: It's been an issue for a long time now. Yeah,

788
00:37:07,400 --> 00:37:10,480
Speaker 2: but I think particularly in this game, it's it jumps

789
00:37:10,520 --> 00:37:13,239
Speaker 2: out when you know that they were down so many

790
00:37:13,320 --> 00:37:16,480
Speaker 2: key pieces Chicago. I'm talking about the kind of the

791
00:37:16,520 --> 00:37:18,280
Speaker 2: spine the middle of that defense.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And I'll be honest, it made me a little crazy.

793
00:37:21,160 --> 00:37:25,640
Speaker 3: I mean looking at it on Monday or Sunday night, going, hey,

794
00:37:25,719 --> 00:37:28,480
Speaker 3: you know your your top three linebackers are out, another

795
00:37:28,520 --> 00:37:32,080
Speaker 3: one gets injured in this game, and you got all

796
00:37:32,120 --> 00:37:35,239
Speaker 3: these tight ends in middle of the field options. Why

797
00:37:35,280 --> 00:37:40,680
Speaker 3: not attack the middlefield some? And we know really hasn't

798
00:37:40,680 --> 00:37:44,800
Speaker 3: matter who the coordinators or quarterbacks have been since Ben

799
00:37:44,920 --> 00:37:47,520
Speaker 3: has been at his best. That is not how this

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00:37:47,640 --> 00:37:52,200
Speaker 3: offense is operated much now. They it's not like they

801
00:37:52,320 --> 00:37:56,600
Speaker 3: didn't challenge the linebackers at all. I mean, who do

802
00:37:56,640 --> 00:37:59,600
Speaker 3: you think's guarding Warren or gain Well in the flats

803
00:37:59,640 --> 00:38:01,799
Speaker 3: and things like that too. I mean it doesn't all

804
00:38:01,880 --> 00:38:04,959
Speaker 3: have to be over the middle. I without question. Would

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00:38:04,960 --> 00:38:08,120
Speaker 3: have liked to see much much more of it. I

806
00:38:08,160 --> 00:38:12,360
Speaker 3: also will say, let's not forget that this is the

807
00:38:12,400 --> 00:38:16,279
Speaker 3: best takeaway team in the league, and takeaways happen in

808
00:38:16,280 --> 00:38:20,520
Speaker 3: the middle of the field. Now, it's still makes me

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00:38:20,600 --> 00:38:22,000
Speaker 3: crazy that they didn't do.

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Speaker 2: Some that's kind of living in your fears.

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Speaker 3: In some way. Yeah, I'm sure its.

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00:38:29,440 --> 00:38:31,000
Speaker 2: Game big hit, big game small.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, yes, I'm sure. It was stressed to no

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00:38:34,600 --> 00:38:37,839
Speaker 3: end all week in prep for this. This team takes

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00:38:37,840 --> 00:38:40,480
Speaker 3: the ball away. This team takes the ball. That's our

816
00:38:40,600 --> 00:38:41,600
Speaker 3: path to losing.

817
00:38:41,760 --> 00:38:44,200
Speaker 2: That's our path as that should have been one of

818
00:38:44,200 --> 00:38:45,520
Speaker 2: the first things on the grease board.

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Speaker 3: It's number one, and whoever the Bears play next week,

820
00:38:48,680 --> 00:38:51,000
Speaker 3: it should be number one on their list too. And

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Speaker 3: then we're going to a backup quarterback. It's one we trust,

822
00:38:54,160 --> 00:38:57,160
Speaker 3: but it's a backup quarterback, so maybe we reel it

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Speaker 3: in even more.

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Speaker 2: Just trying to spell it'd be easier to stomach the

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00:39:01,960 --> 00:39:03,799
Speaker 2: regard if it was if it felt like more of

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Speaker 2: a one off right, and again, to I don't want

827
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Speaker 2: to make it seem like all of a sudden harping

828
00:39:09,280 --> 00:39:11,880
Speaker 2: on this on this Monday, but it really stood out yesterday.

829
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Speaker 2: This trio of tight ends that we spent so much

830
00:39:14,719 --> 00:39:17,839
Speaker 2: time talking about how you can attack defenses with these guys.

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Speaker 3: And they're on the field a lot, and they're on

832
00:39:19,280 --> 00:39:21,560
Speaker 3: the field a lot. There you traded for one one

833
00:39:21,600 --> 00:39:24,200
Speaker 3: looks like an up and coming star. I think for

834
00:39:24,280 --> 00:39:27,799
Speaker 3: Iar Moose vastly underrated by Steeler Nation. You need more

835
00:39:27,840 --> 00:39:31,560
Speaker 3: from these guys. But I would have loved to scene

836
00:39:32,400 --> 00:39:35,719
Speaker 3: sit down in zones against linebackers I've never heard of,

837
00:39:36,440 --> 00:39:39,880
Speaker 3: or stretch the scene up the middle, you know, And

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Speaker 3: we didn't. And I'm trying to explain it the best

839
00:39:43,680 --> 00:39:47,840
Speaker 3: I can from every angle, but I think it was lacking,

840
00:39:47,880 --> 00:39:48,640
Speaker 3: to say the least.

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00:39:51,239 --> 00:39:54,319
Speaker 2: Joe tweets us here and says, with everything that the

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00:39:54,440 --> 00:39:57,320
Speaker 2: NFL does to kind of fix the game and prove

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00:39:57,360 --> 00:39:59,680
Speaker 2: the game, when will they admit they have an officiating

844
00:39:59,719 --> 00:40:03,000
Speaker 2: problem them? There's so much inconsistency drive to drive game

845
00:40:03,080 --> 00:40:06,239
Speaker 2: the game week to week. I agree with that.

846
00:40:06,960 --> 00:40:09,920
Speaker 3: I do too, but a couple of things.

847
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Speaker 2: One and I don't know exactly when Joe tweeted this

848
00:40:14,440 --> 00:40:16,359
Speaker 2: or what was on his mind. It could have been

849
00:40:17,040 --> 00:40:19,560
Speaker 2: the illegal shift penalty, It could have been that change

850
00:40:19,640 --> 00:40:21,800
Speaker 2: on the punt with the penalty that they messed.

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Speaker 3: That was very confusing from just a TV watcher soon.

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Speaker 2: Because they went right to break, and so I get that,

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00:40:27,160 --> 00:40:28,640
Speaker 2: and that's one of the things I can maybe maybe

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Speaker 2: I should have done this earlier. Paint a little bit

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Speaker 2: of a picture for everybody that isn't like sitting right

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00:40:33,160 --> 00:40:34,120
Speaker 2: there in the press box.

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Speaker 3: It was the I didn't know what the heck was

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Speaker 3: going on.

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Speaker 2: I guess when the side judge or whoever threw the

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Speaker 2: flag relayed it to the head official, the head official

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00:40:42,640 --> 00:40:46,440
Speaker 2: heard him wrong, and so the head official gives the

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00:40:46,480 --> 00:40:50,640
Speaker 2: call on the broadcast right, holding on the bear is

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00:40:50,680 --> 00:40:52,960
Speaker 2: going to put them inside their own five yard line

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Speaker 2: or at the five whatever it would have been. Hold

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Speaker 2: on Chicago time out, go to break. As soon as

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Speaker 2: that happens, they sure that through the flag is like

867
00:41:02,080 --> 00:41:05,160
Speaker 2: calling everybody ose and there's a quick hot like so

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00:41:05,239 --> 00:41:07,839
Speaker 2: it was clearly, like the guy pointed out he made

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00:41:07,840 --> 00:41:11,200
Speaker 2: a mistake right away. It wasn't some conspiracy minutes later,

870
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Speaker 2: like it was like right away the guy was like,

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Speaker 2: huddle back up, and they came out of the huddle

872
00:41:15,640 --> 00:41:17,880
Speaker 2: and were like, you know, apologies, like it was on

873
00:41:18,360 --> 00:41:20,799
Speaker 2: the kicking team holding on the kicking team, not on

874
00:41:20,840 --> 00:41:24,160
Speaker 2: the receiving team, and because of that, Chicago has elected

875
00:41:24,200 --> 00:41:27,680
Speaker 2: to rekick, and so instead of having them penned at

876
00:41:27,719 --> 00:41:30,719
Speaker 2: their five, they get the ball at what they're thirty three.

877
00:41:30,840 --> 00:41:32,840
Speaker 2: I mean it ended up being like a thirty yards.

878
00:41:32,920 --> 00:41:35,640
Speaker 3: It was like a thirty yard different in a big

879
00:41:35,680 --> 00:41:38,520
Speaker 3: time of the game. But doesn't mean they officiated wrong.

880
00:41:38,960 --> 00:41:41,239
Speaker 2: It was just confusing and at a poor time on

881
00:41:41,280 --> 00:41:44,440
Speaker 2: the broadcast, and it was just their signals got crossed.

882
00:41:44,880 --> 00:41:48,000
Speaker 2: It was a human air moment, but still the right

883
00:41:48,120 --> 00:41:49,880
Speaker 2: call that they wanted to call.

884
00:41:50,239 --> 00:41:54,120
Speaker 3: The other wrinkle I would add, though, is because I

885
00:41:54,120 --> 00:41:56,840
Speaker 3: I'm glad do you explained that because us watching on TV?

886
00:41:57,040 --> 00:41:59,799
Speaker 3: That was never explained. He never really quite understood, and

887
00:42:00,120 --> 00:42:02,040
Speaker 3: was explained to me earlier too, And that makes all

888
00:42:02,120 --> 00:42:05,759
Speaker 3: sense in the world. But I've never maybe I just

889
00:42:05,800 --> 00:42:12,120
Speaker 3: missed it. Remember a holding call on a gunner. I'm

890
00:42:12,120 --> 00:42:13,080
Speaker 3: not sure how that happens.

891
00:42:13,400 --> 00:42:15,480
Speaker 2: I would like to have see. This was another thing

892
00:42:16,640 --> 00:42:20,400
Speaker 2: we the way that old Soldier Field, like the oldest

893
00:42:20,520 --> 00:42:23,160
Speaker 2: stadium in the NFL, is built, we can't see the

894
00:42:24,680 --> 00:42:27,440
Speaker 2: jumbo trons, so from our broadcast booth, it was a

895
00:42:27,480 --> 00:42:30,319
Speaker 2: really cool vantage point, but the overhang of the upper deck,

896
00:42:30,360 --> 00:42:32,640
Speaker 2: we can't see the jumbo trons, so all we had

897
00:42:32,760 --> 00:42:36,000
Speaker 2: was one little, tiny monitor, which made it very difficult

898
00:42:36,000 --> 00:42:38,560
Speaker 2: to see replays and see stuff like That's me sure

899
00:42:38,560 --> 00:42:38,839
Speaker 2: if it.

900
00:42:38,800 --> 00:42:39,840
Speaker 3: Was shown on TV.

901
00:42:41,120 --> 00:42:43,600
Speaker 2: Or you know, maybe we'll have some more on this

902
00:42:43,640 --> 00:42:46,160
Speaker 2: on the Tuesday rewind. But Matt, I'll tell you this.

903
00:42:46,239 --> 00:42:49,040
Speaker 3: I mean, a gunner running down field, how they hold

904
00:42:49,120 --> 00:42:49,399
Speaker 3: you know.

905
00:42:49,680 --> 00:42:54,560
Speaker 2: Unless the play is like starting to head Yeah, confusing, confusing,

906
00:42:56,080 --> 00:42:58,520
Speaker 2: Like that's the that's the call that they wanted to make.

907
00:42:59,040 --> 00:43:00,759
Speaker 2: I'm not saying it was right or wrong, but that's

908
00:43:00,800 --> 00:43:04,440
Speaker 2: the call that they wanted to make. I will say this, Matt,

909
00:43:05,040 --> 00:43:07,439
Speaker 2: I don't I'm gonna preface this by saying, I'm about

910
00:43:07,440 --> 00:43:09,600
Speaker 2: to do the classic thing where a guy complains about

911
00:43:09,600 --> 00:43:11,160
Speaker 2: a problem but offers no solution.

912
00:43:11,440 --> 00:43:13,640
Speaker 3: I know, like, tell me how to make the reft better.

913
00:43:13,719 --> 00:43:14,319
Speaker 3: I'm all years.

914
00:43:14,719 --> 00:43:19,000
Speaker 2: This is a problem in every league, NFL, NBA, Major

915
00:43:19,080 --> 00:43:21,200
Speaker 2: League Baseball is a little different because it's such a

916
00:43:21,239 --> 00:43:24,680
Speaker 2: contained environment. It's slow, but anything that's as rapidly moving

917
00:43:24,680 --> 00:43:29,840
Speaker 2: as football, basketball, hockey, Yeah, college sport. College officiating in

918
00:43:31,000 --> 00:43:36,880
Speaker 2: college football and college basketball is terrible is it. These

919
00:43:37,000 --> 00:43:40,160
Speaker 2: athletes in the last ten to fifteen years have gotten

920
00:43:40,160 --> 00:43:43,359
Speaker 2: so much bigger, so much faster, so much stronger. These

921
00:43:43,400 --> 00:43:46,840
Speaker 2: sports have gotten so much more specialized. Yeah, the margins

922
00:43:46,880 --> 00:43:48,759
Speaker 2: between the best teams and the best players, and the

923
00:43:48,800 --> 00:43:51,919
Speaker 2: worst teams and the worst players is thinner than ever before.

924
00:43:52,040 --> 00:43:55,239
Speaker 3: And our ability to analyze them has gotten so much

925
00:43:55,760 --> 00:43:56,640
Speaker 3: hyper focused.

926
00:43:56,920 --> 00:43:59,960
Speaker 2: The only answer is that every referee in every sport

927
00:44:00,080 --> 00:44:02,399
Speaker 2: can review every call that they want to at any time.

928
00:44:02,440 --> 00:44:04,000
Speaker 2: But then that would drive us nuts because all these

929
00:44:04,000 --> 00:44:05,080
Speaker 2: games would take five hours.

930
00:44:05,160 --> 00:44:05,680
Speaker 3: Yeah.

931
00:44:05,719 --> 00:44:06,520
Speaker 2: I don't know what.

932
00:44:06,440 --> 00:44:09,600
Speaker 3: The solution is, but nobody seems to have it.

933
00:44:09,640 --> 00:44:11,759
Speaker 2: Nobody seems to have it when it is the one

934
00:44:11,840 --> 00:44:16,799
Speaker 2: grain of salt. Refereeing in all sports right now is bad, the.

935
00:44:16,760 --> 00:44:22,040
Speaker 3: One more recognized in the seventies. He didn't even notice, right.

936
00:44:21,520 --> 00:44:23,960
Speaker 2: Right, because again it's all over social media. It's it's

937
00:44:23,960 --> 00:44:25,440
Speaker 2: a million different camera angles.

938
00:44:25,560 --> 00:44:27,600
Speaker 3: I told you my nineteen year old watch something. He's like,

939
00:44:27,719 --> 00:44:29,520
Speaker 3: what do you mean? They didn't ever replay when there

940
00:44:29,640 --> 00:44:32,319
Speaker 3: was an old replay on the NFL network, It wasn't

941
00:44:32,360 --> 00:44:33,319
Speaker 3: that like call.

942
00:44:34,640 --> 00:44:35,360
Speaker 2: They didn't never replay.

943
00:44:35,600 --> 00:44:37,520
Speaker 3: I didn't know they never There was a time in

944
00:44:37,800 --> 00:44:41,440
Speaker 3: NFL history where replay didn't exist, right, I mean, I'm like.

945
00:44:41,440 --> 00:44:43,760
Speaker 2: Wow, I don't know what the solution is. But the

946
00:44:43,880 --> 00:44:47,120
Speaker 2: product on the field, on the court, on the grass,

947
00:44:47,120 --> 00:44:51,960
Speaker 2: on the ice has in terms of athleticism and speed,

948
00:44:52,040 --> 00:44:55,120
Speaker 2: gone through the roof in the last fifteen years, twenty years.

949
00:44:55,200 --> 00:44:59,480
Speaker 3: It's increasing incrementally like the Internet, and the officiating is

950
00:44:59,560 --> 00:45:01,359
Speaker 3: not in used to with it, right right, right, It'd

951
00:45:01,360 --> 00:45:03,160
Speaker 3: be like if everyone was getting cell phones but we

952
00:45:03,200 --> 00:45:04,720
Speaker 3: still only had one Wi Fi.

953
00:45:04,560 --> 00:45:08,120
Speaker 2: Tower, right, We're building zillions of Wi Fi towers and

954
00:45:08,960 --> 00:45:11,480
Speaker 2: it's just I don't know what the solution is. I

955
00:45:11,520 --> 00:45:14,480
Speaker 2: don't know if they need younger, more specially trained officials.

956
00:45:14,760 --> 00:45:16,160
Speaker 2: There are a lot of the same officials that have

957
00:45:16,200 --> 00:45:17,879
Speaker 2: been doing it for twenty thirty years and don't get

958
00:45:17,920 --> 00:45:19,440
Speaker 2: up and down the court of a field like they

959
00:45:19,520 --> 00:45:19,840
Speaker 2: used to.

960
00:45:20,200 --> 00:45:21,960
Speaker 3: I do think it's your bilms, And I think like

961
00:45:22,040 --> 00:45:24,839
Speaker 3: driver's license should be this way, yes, and running.

962
00:45:24,520 --> 00:45:30,120
Speaker 2: From running for political office you got forties or fifties.

963
00:45:30,120 --> 00:45:33,160
Speaker 2: After that you get no more officiating, no more run

964
00:45:33,160 --> 00:45:34,040
Speaker 2: in the country.

965
00:45:33,760 --> 00:45:35,720
Speaker 3: All right. I've also heard the arguments like they should

966
00:45:35,719 --> 00:45:37,799
Speaker 3: be full time, Like, well, maybe, but what are they

967
00:45:37,840 --> 00:45:39,080
Speaker 3: doing on Tuesday afternoon.

968
00:45:39,719 --> 00:45:44,319
Speaker 2: You can see different college campuses and high school but.

969
00:45:44,280 --> 00:45:47,160
Speaker 3: That that much on Tuesday afternoon.

970
00:45:47,400 --> 00:45:51,239
Speaker 2: They need to be more athletic, maybe the simplest even again,

971
00:45:51,360 --> 00:45:54,440
Speaker 2: that's that's it's still gonna make it tough. Uh Matt,

972
00:45:54,480 --> 00:45:56,479
Speaker 2: that'll do it for us. Today. We actually a couple

973
00:45:56,520 --> 00:45:58,120
Speaker 2: more tweets here that I had bookmarked that I want

974
00:45:58,120 --> 00:45:58,440
Speaker 2: to get to.

975
00:45:58,600 --> 00:46:00,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't think this game.

976
00:46:00,560 --> 00:46:03,480
Speaker 2: We'll get more into those tomorrow, I promise all you

977
00:46:03,520 --> 00:46:06,360
Speaker 2: good people out there. We'll also talk with our Buddychris

978
00:46:06,520 --> 00:46:09,040
Speaker 2: Damski and get all his thoughts on everything that transpired.

979
00:46:09,280 --> 00:46:11,759
Speaker 2: We'll have hopefully some injury clarity with some of those

980
00:46:11,840 --> 00:46:16,120
Speaker 2: questions too, after Mike Tomlin speaks tomorrow at noon. So

981
00:46:16,520 --> 00:46:19,640
Speaker 2: all of that and more on a Tuesday jam packed show.

982
00:46:20,000 --> 00:46:22,400
Speaker 2: A big thank you to Rob King for joining us today.

983
00:46:22,680 --> 00:46:26,240
Speaker 2: A big shout out to our resident video producer Slash

984
00:46:26,360 --> 00:46:30,520
Speaker 2: statistician Slash make sure you're subscribing on the YouTube, mister

985
00:46:30,600 --> 00:46:34,040
Speaker 2: TV Tyler V for Matt Williamson, I'm Wes Hueler. Take

986
00:46:34,080 --> 00:46:35,880
Speaker 2: care everybody. We'll talk to you tomorrow. As always, you

987
00:46:35,920 --> 00:46:37,279
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988
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