1 00:00:00,720 --> 00:00:02,880 Speaker 1: Welcome to the Battleground Podcast. 2 00:00:08,440 --> 00:00:11,880 Speaker 2: You all these provely and. 3 00:00:11,920 --> 00:00:18,160 Speaker 3: Exclusive interviews with some of your favorite wrestlersund stop being. 4 00:00:24,280 --> 00:00:26,640 Speaker 4: Welcome to a special episode of the Battleground Podcast. My 5 00:00:26,720 --> 00:00:28,560 Speaker 4: name is Josh from My Heart Radio, filing it for 6 00:00:28,600 --> 00:00:31,240 Speaker 4: Battle with Me is Always is my tag team partner Eli. 7 00:00:31,840 --> 00:00:33,800 Speaker 4: We are excited to have one of the most exciting 8 00:00:33,840 --> 00:00:37,320 Speaker 4: and decorated athletes in the world. He is currently and 9 00:00:37,680 --> 00:00:40,720 Speaker 4: two time Ring of Honor World Champion, a former r 10 00:00:40,760 --> 00:00:43,879 Speaker 4: o H six man champ, and one half of the 11 00:00:43,960 --> 00:00:47,640 Speaker 4: current ae W World Tag Team Champions. Ladies and Gentlemen 12 00:00:47,680 --> 00:00:48,920 Speaker 4: band Detail. Welcome to the. 13 00:00:52,320 --> 00:00:53,800 Speaker 3: Good to have you here. How are you doing. 14 00:00:54,680 --> 00:00:57,320 Speaker 5: I'm very excited for today and thank you for this 15 00:00:57,440 --> 00:00:58,480 Speaker 5: is space with you. 16 00:00:58,560 --> 00:01:01,520 Speaker 3: Amus, You're very welcome. Listen, we'll get right into it. 17 00:01:01,560 --> 00:01:04,200 Speaker 4: You've had one of the wildest months in recent wrestling 18 00:01:04,280 --> 00:01:05,760 Speaker 4: history and in memory. 19 00:01:06,080 --> 00:01:07,040 Speaker 3: What's going through. 20 00:01:06,840 --> 00:01:09,680 Speaker 4: Your mind during that five and three quarter star match 21 00:01:10,520 --> 00:01:11,720 Speaker 4: at a Supercart of Honor. 22 00:01:13,200 --> 00:01:14,560 Speaker 5: You know that was fantastic. 23 00:01:14,680 --> 00:01:21,200 Speaker 1: That this couple last months has been like crazy crazy 24 00:01:21,319 --> 00:01:25,280 Speaker 1: because I had an injury, you know, my risk was 25 00:01:25,319 --> 00:01:28,839 Speaker 1: broken and I was out of the ring like almost 26 00:01:28,880 --> 00:01:32,840 Speaker 1: two years. Yeah, and my mind is only thinking like 27 00:01:33,000 --> 00:01:36,480 Speaker 1: probably I'm not gonna go back to the ring. So 28 00:01:36,600 --> 00:01:43,120 Speaker 1: after getting to the ring, this has happened, and it's 29 00:01:43,160 --> 00:01:44,000 Speaker 1: fantastic for me. 30 00:01:44,200 --> 00:01:47,920 Speaker 2: Now, yeah, you know, I didn't know if you knew this, 31 00:01:48,120 --> 00:01:52,200 Speaker 2: but that ratings from Dave Melcher. Of course, that is 32 00:01:52,240 --> 00:01:54,560 Speaker 2: his highest rated US match of the year so far. 33 00:01:55,640 --> 00:01:59,360 Speaker 2: How do you personally measure success in the ring compared to, like, 34 00:01:59,560 --> 00:02:01,720 Speaker 2: you know, what critics say and what the fans say 35 00:02:01,720 --> 00:02:02,880 Speaker 2: online and stuff like that. 36 00:02:05,920 --> 00:02:14,320 Speaker 5: Well, I really don't know. I don't know how big 37 00:02:14,600 --> 00:02:20,800 Speaker 5: is that evaluation, you know, I just the people. And 38 00:02:20,880 --> 00:02:22,240 Speaker 5: when the fans start to tell. 39 00:02:22,080 --> 00:02:27,160 Speaker 1: Me, hey, you gotta five on the three four almost 40 00:02:27,160 --> 00:02:31,079 Speaker 1: sixty stars, that's fantastic for you. Congratulation and I say, oh, 41 00:02:31,360 --> 00:02:33,360 Speaker 1: thank you very much for that, and thank you mister 42 00:02:33,440 --> 00:02:36,520 Speaker 1: Day because I really like that. 43 00:02:36,639 --> 00:02:41,040 Speaker 5: Mister Dave likes my work, right, Yeah, yeah, for sure. 44 00:02:41,320 --> 00:02:41,919 Speaker 3: Absolutely. 45 00:02:42,320 --> 00:02:44,880 Speaker 4: Let's talk about that moment at Forbidden Door, Tony Kahn, 46 00:02:44,919 --> 00:02:49,160 Speaker 4: he handed you a signed Raul kimenes Fulham jersey. Literally 47 00:02:49,360 --> 00:02:52,200 Speaker 4: the next day's match, you broke down in tears right 48 00:02:52,200 --> 00:02:54,000 Speaker 4: in front of the cameras. I gotta know what was 49 00:02:54,000 --> 00:02:55,680 Speaker 4: her with your mind in that moment. How did you 50 00:02:55,720 --> 00:02:58,400 Speaker 4: feel both as an a Mexican athlete and as a 51 00:02:58,480 --> 00:03:00,000 Speaker 4: human when that happened. 52 00:03:03,280 --> 00:03:06,160 Speaker 5: Well, you know, that was fantastic. That was amazing, if 53 00:03:06,240 --> 00:03:10,359 Speaker 5: for for me because ral is the best football player 54 00:03:11,520 --> 00:03:15,160 Speaker 5: Mexican football player, so that was. 55 00:03:16,600 --> 00:03:19,480 Speaker 1: I really enjoy and and I said, thank you, Rol 56 00:03:19,560 --> 00:03:24,959 Speaker 1: because you are an inspiration. Uh he's uh his comeback 57 00:03:25,160 --> 00:03:29,960 Speaker 1: was very similar than me, so I uh inspired. 58 00:03:30,639 --> 00:03:31,919 Speaker 5: Yeah. 59 00:03:32,480 --> 00:03:34,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, it was such a cool moment, you know after 60 00:03:36,120 --> 00:03:38,600 Speaker 2: you know, speaking speaking of Forbidden Door, you know, obviously 61 00:03:38,600 --> 00:03:41,000 Speaker 2: congrats you and Brody King became the new a W 62 00:03:41,000 --> 00:03:44,640 Speaker 2: World Tech Team champions stellar three way match against FTR 63 00:03:44,640 --> 00:03:45,280 Speaker 2: and the Hurts. 64 00:03:45,080 --> 00:03:45,520 Speaker 5: In the kIPS. 65 00:03:46,480 --> 00:03:48,600 Speaker 2: You know, what did capture in the tag Belts mean 66 00:03:48,680 --> 00:03:55,000 Speaker 2: to you on such a huge international stage. 67 00:03:55,120 --> 00:03:56,120 Speaker 3: H m hm. 68 00:03:57,640 --> 00:04:01,680 Speaker 5: Now it means like, hmm, I need to take care 69 00:04:01,720 --> 00:04:03,560 Speaker 5: of Brody. I really need to take care of me. 70 00:04:03,720 --> 00:04:03,920 Speaker 2: You know. 71 00:04:04,160 --> 00:04:08,920 Speaker 1: The tack team division looks us So that's amazing and 72 00:04:08,920 --> 00:04:10,520 Speaker 1: I'm very excited for the for. 73 00:04:10,480 --> 00:04:12,200 Speaker 5: The next months ahead. 74 00:04:12,240 --> 00:04:14,600 Speaker 1: You know, I don't really want to do tac team 75 00:04:14,600 --> 00:04:19,680 Speaker 1: matches with every tack team here in a W. 76 00:04:20,680 --> 00:04:22,240 Speaker 2: Oh and it was really nice too to see you 77 00:04:22,360 --> 00:04:25,880 Speaker 2: match in with his Brody King signature Adidas that night too. 78 00:04:25,920 --> 00:04:30,240 Speaker 4: That was a nice touch, so definitely was Listen, you're 79 00:04:30,440 --> 00:04:33,160 Speaker 4: you're holding the r o H World title and the 80 00:04:33,200 --> 00:04:35,760 Speaker 4: aw tag titles at the same time. It's so cool 81 00:04:35,760 --> 00:04:37,400 Speaker 4: when you get to hold, you know, more than one 82 00:04:37,400 --> 00:04:39,839 Speaker 4: belt on your shoulder. You know, how do you balance 83 00:04:39,880 --> 00:04:41,680 Speaker 4: being the face of r o H while also helping 84 00:04:41,760 --> 00:04:43,440 Speaker 4: elevate a w's tag team division? 85 00:04:46,880 --> 00:04:49,040 Speaker 5: Sorry, what what's say again? Please? 86 00:04:50,040 --> 00:04:51,000 Speaker 3: It's fine. 87 00:04:51,000 --> 00:04:52,680 Speaker 4: How do you balance being the face of r o 88 00:04:52,839 --> 00:04:55,680 Speaker 4: H and also elevating ae WS tag team division? 89 00:04:58,080 --> 00:05:01,279 Speaker 5: Guys? Thank you very much. Uh. 90 00:05:01,360 --> 00:05:04,359 Speaker 1: Like I said before, I got like two years with 91 00:05:04,560 --> 00:05:08,520 Speaker 1: no luta, with no wrestling, So now I just enjoyed. 92 00:05:08,640 --> 00:05:12,719 Speaker 1: I just enjoy my world what I'm doing. It doesn't 93 00:05:12,720 --> 00:05:15,760 Speaker 1: matter if it's Ring of Honor, a W, collige On 94 00:05:15,960 --> 00:05:18,800 Speaker 1: Dynamite or Tack Team. I really love to be in 95 00:05:19,279 --> 00:05:24,240 Speaker 1: the ring and do my stuff and people loves it. 96 00:05:24,240 --> 00:05:30,000 Speaker 5: It's very grateful for me, you know, oh for sure. Yeah. 97 00:05:30,400 --> 00:05:32,839 Speaker 2: You know, when we talk about tag teams, there's this 98 00:05:33,000 --> 00:05:35,960 Speaker 2: concept of you know, thrown together tag teams, and you know, 99 00:05:36,040 --> 00:05:37,920 Speaker 2: I think you and Tony did a really good job 100 00:05:37,960 --> 00:05:40,880 Speaker 2: at the press conference after Forbidden Door, explaining, you know, 101 00:05:40,920 --> 00:05:43,279 Speaker 2: you and Brodie Lee have a big history together. You 102 00:05:43,360 --> 00:05:45,719 Speaker 2: signed with Ring of Honor together, so it's not really 103 00:05:45,800 --> 00:05:49,080 Speaker 2: a thrown together team, so to speak. But regardless, you know, 104 00:05:49,440 --> 00:05:52,279 Speaker 2: you guys ending hurt Syndicates run. A lot of people 105 00:05:52,279 --> 00:05:54,080 Speaker 2: saw that as kind of a passing of the torch 106 00:05:54,160 --> 00:05:58,080 Speaker 2: moment and really kind of you know, celebrating you two 107 00:05:58,120 --> 00:06:00,280 Speaker 2: as a new, brand new tag team and everything. 108 00:06:01,000 --> 00:06:02,400 Speaker 5: Did you feel the weight of the. 109 00:06:02,440 --> 00:06:05,160 Speaker 2: History in that match when you're at O t Rana, 110 00:06:05,240 --> 00:06:08,320 Speaker 2: when you're setting that attendance record at Forbid indoors? 111 00:06:10,320 --> 00:06:13,119 Speaker 1: That was amazing, That was fantastic, And in that moment 112 00:06:13,160 --> 00:06:15,520 Speaker 1: I was very happy, the same as Brodie. You know, 113 00:06:16,120 --> 00:06:20,080 Speaker 1: we we we didn't expect that moment and we live 114 00:06:20,200 --> 00:06:23,960 Speaker 1: together for our first time and that's fantastic for both. 115 00:06:24,920 --> 00:06:28,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a killer, just a killer then all around. 116 00:06:28,360 --> 00:06:30,520 Speaker 4: So I want to I want to talk about death 117 00:06:30,640 --> 00:06:33,960 Speaker 4: before Dishonor. You're going to defend that RH tonight at 118 00:06:33,960 --> 00:06:38,039 Speaker 4: the RH World Championship against Hi Seto, who already pinned 119 00:06:38,080 --> 00:06:41,000 Speaker 4: you in tag team actions. So what makes him such 120 00:06:41,000 --> 00:06:44,720 Speaker 4: a dangerous challenger, especially when he's got Dan Callis in 121 00:06:44,760 --> 00:06:45,159 Speaker 4: his corner. 122 00:06:45,160 --> 00:06:49,440 Speaker 1: Now. Yeah, a lot of people saying that, hey, be 123 00:06:49,520 --> 00:06:53,600 Speaker 1: careful with Don Callis because Don Kali's family is never alone, 124 00:06:53,640 --> 00:06:56,360 Speaker 1: And I say, okay, okay, but let me tell you 125 00:06:56,400 --> 00:06:59,240 Speaker 1: something now, I'm not alone. I got something in my 126 00:06:59,279 --> 00:07:03,920 Speaker 1: land take. So that's fantastic for me. And I'm very 127 00:07:03,960 --> 00:07:06,680 Speaker 1: excited that Luta is gonna be the main event of 128 00:07:07,600 --> 00:07:12,360 Speaker 1: one of the fantastic shows here in the States. That 129 00:07:12,520 --> 00:07:15,720 Speaker 1: before the snor means for me a lot of a 130 00:07:15,760 --> 00:07:19,440 Speaker 1: lot lot because bring Honor before it was. 131 00:07:20,880 --> 00:07:22,080 Speaker 5: Great, greatest show. 132 00:07:22,200 --> 00:07:27,000 Speaker 1: So tonight's that's gonna be the the It's gonna be 133 00:07:27,040 --> 00:07:30,360 Speaker 1: the same. So I'm very excited for et Cicero and 134 00:07:30,920 --> 00:07:32,280 Speaker 1: let's let's do die, you know. 135 00:07:32,760 --> 00:07:36,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, And if we're not mistaken, this is the 136 00:07:36,240 --> 00:07:38,560 Speaker 2: first time matchup between you guys too, right, you guys 137 00:07:38,560 --> 00:07:39,760 Speaker 2: have never faced before. 138 00:07:39,760 --> 00:07:42,679 Speaker 5: One on one at least. 139 00:07:43,040 --> 00:07:47,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, How do you prepare for someone like when he's 140 00:07:47,800 --> 00:07:50,120 Speaker 2: known as the Alchemist of the ring and you are 141 00:07:50,440 --> 00:07:52,000 Speaker 2: you know, you're definitely known for your strength, but you're 142 00:07:52,000 --> 00:07:53,760 Speaker 2: also known for your high flying and stuff like that. 143 00:07:53,840 --> 00:07:56,240 Speaker 2: It seems like kind of a difference in styles, Like 144 00:07:56,280 --> 00:07:58,800 Speaker 2: how are you mentally preparing for him, who could, you know, 145 00:07:58,840 --> 00:08:00,440 Speaker 2: pull anything out of the air and anytime. 146 00:08:01,960 --> 00:08:08,200 Speaker 1: Well, I'm preparing, just remembering all my submissions uh keys uh, 147 00:08:09,480 --> 00:08:11,880 Speaker 1: submissions that my teachers taught me. 148 00:08:12,000 --> 00:08:13,600 Speaker 5: You know, he's a very. 149 00:08:15,200 --> 00:08:17,520 Speaker 1: I don't know how do you say here in the state, 150 00:08:17,640 --> 00:08:21,120 Speaker 1: but he always did a lot of submission style. Yes, 151 00:08:22,680 --> 00:08:24,440 Speaker 1: we call it Mexico javes. 152 00:08:25,160 --> 00:08:26,440 Speaker 2: Yeah. 153 00:08:26,600 --> 00:08:29,800 Speaker 5: Yeah, So I'm prepared. 154 00:08:29,800 --> 00:08:34,640 Speaker 1: I'm trying to record to remember all my my javes, 155 00:08:34,679 --> 00:08:38,000 Speaker 1: my submission moves to be ready for him. 156 00:08:38,240 --> 00:08:39,800 Speaker 5: Yeah, all right, A couple. 157 00:08:39,960 --> 00:08:42,960 Speaker 4: A couple more for you, bandido real quick. We heard 158 00:08:42,960 --> 00:08:46,480 Speaker 4: that some wrestlers, like like Jake Hagler shared some mixed 159 00:08:46,480 --> 00:08:49,760 Speaker 4: feelings about working under Tony Kahn with a W. You've 160 00:08:49,760 --> 00:08:52,959 Speaker 4: had incredible career moments with both R O h N 161 00:08:53,040 --> 00:08:55,360 Speaker 4: A W sin signing with them. From your perspective, though, 162 00:08:55,559 --> 00:08:58,000 Speaker 4: what's it like having Tony kNN as a boss and 163 00:08:58,040 --> 00:08:59,520 Speaker 4: someone who clearly believes in you. 164 00:09:01,720 --> 00:09:05,800 Speaker 1: I'm very grateful with him, you know, he always believe 165 00:09:05,880 --> 00:09:11,640 Speaker 1: in me since they won and I choose a different 166 00:09:12,280 --> 00:09:17,360 Speaker 1: company in the beginning, but Tony was very excited with 167 00:09:17,440 --> 00:09:22,640 Speaker 1: me since B two BG shows and I'm just happy 168 00:09:22,800 --> 00:09:25,679 Speaker 1: to be here now and the Tony believes in me. 169 00:09:25,920 --> 00:09:27,920 Speaker 1: I just want to say thank you to Tony, thank 170 00:09:27,960 --> 00:09:29,760 Speaker 1: you to all the company, and thank you to all 171 00:09:29,840 --> 00:09:36,680 Speaker 1: my partners here because it's such a great, lucky room 172 00:09:36,760 --> 00:09:37,280 Speaker 1: over here. 173 00:09:38,080 --> 00:09:38,920 Speaker 5: Yeah. 174 00:09:39,000 --> 00:09:41,200 Speaker 2: Well, we kind of like to wrap things up with 175 00:09:41,240 --> 00:09:43,920 Speaker 2: a fun one, you know, just something random. So with 176 00:09:44,040 --> 00:09:47,040 Speaker 2: this being tied to a music station, here's the fun 177 00:09:47,040 --> 00:09:48,160 Speaker 2: one we like to wrap up with. 178 00:09:49,080 --> 00:09:50,280 Speaker 5: If someone wants to go. 179 00:09:50,200 --> 00:09:53,240 Speaker 2: Through Bandido's playlist, like maybe for when you're working out 180 00:09:53,320 --> 00:09:55,440 Speaker 2: or something like that, what is the most random song 181 00:09:55,559 --> 00:09:56,400 Speaker 2: on your playlist? 182 00:10:01,240 --> 00:10:04,760 Speaker 4: Well, it's always the hardest question. That's always the hardest one. 183 00:10:06,280 --> 00:10:09,080 Speaker 5: Okay, the most random. 184 00:10:09,280 --> 00:10:12,760 Speaker 1: It can be like dancing with all my Mexican stuff, 185 00:10:12,760 --> 00:10:16,439 Speaker 1: and probably it can happen like Bob Marley with could 186 00:10:16,440 --> 00:10:20,719 Speaker 1: You Be Loved It's listening instead of you? 187 00:10:21,040 --> 00:10:25,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I mean, and that's an incredible song too. 188 00:10:25,960 --> 00:10:26,679 Speaker 2: That's a good choice. 189 00:10:26,679 --> 00:10:29,000 Speaker 4: You're going to get a cover of Bandido doing that 190 00:10:29,120 --> 00:10:32,040 Speaker 4: maybe as a we'll show concert after tonight on that. 191 00:10:33,920 --> 00:10:34,319 Speaker 5: Probably. 192 00:10:36,240 --> 00:10:38,760 Speaker 3: Thank you for joining us today. We really do appreciate it. 193 00:10:39,360 --> 00:10:40,160 Speaker 5: Thank you so much. 194 00:10:40,200 --> 00:10:42,160 Speaker 1: Thank you to all the people to see this, and 195 00:10:42,440 --> 00:10:45,959 Speaker 1: don't forget that, thank you