1 00:00:05,880 --> 00:00:12,760 Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace. How does a young guy 2 00:00:12,920 --> 00:00:18,400 Speaker 1: the prime of his life end up dead? The curious 3 00:00:18,720 --> 00:00:38,040 Speaker 1: death of Caleb Marple Crime Stories with Nancy Grace. Volunteers 4 00:00:38,080 --> 00:00:41,720 Speaker 1: gathered near the Center Street Bridge in downtown Cleveland today 5 00:00:41,840 --> 00:00:45,320 Speaker 1: looking for a missing Westlake man. Please say. Thirty nine 6 00:00:45,400 --> 00:00:48,720 Speaker 1: year old Caleb Marple was last seen late Sunday evening 7 00:00:48,840 --> 00:00:52,440 Speaker 1: leaving the Barley House restaurant on West six. Search teams 8 00:00:52,479 --> 00:00:56,360 Speaker 1: were hoping to find him or any clues. Our hopes 9 00:00:56,360 --> 00:01:00,480 Speaker 1: were that we find him today and that he has okay, 10 00:01:00,520 --> 00:01:02,640 Speaker 1: and that we're able to bring him home. But we're 11 00:01:02,680 --> 00:01:05,759 Speaker 1: not looking for a body. We're looking for him. If 12 00:01:05,800 --> 00:01:10,360 Speaker 1: you know where Caleb Marple is, called Cleveland Police. Here 13 00:01:10,480 --> 00:01:16,199 Speaker 1: hearing our friends there at wk YC three News. Everyone 14 00:01:16,240 --> 00:01:19,880 Speaker 1: that knew calebs so very very well was looking for 15 00:01:20,000 --> 00:01:24,360 Speaker 1: him to return home, and we're stunned when they learn 16 00:01:24,880 --> 00:01:29,399 Speaker 1: Caleb is dead. Twizzes and turns throughout the story have 17 00:01:29,560 --> 00:01:33,800 Speaker 1: led me to the conclusion that we don't know the truth. 18 00:01:34,000 --> 00:01:36,160 Speaker 1: With me and All Star panel to break it down 19 00:01:36,160 --> 00:01:39,160 Speaker 1: and put it back together again, Doctor Angela Arnold renounced 20 00:01:39,120 --> 00:01:42,680 Speaker 1: psychiatrists joining me out of Atlanta. You can find her 21 00:01:42,720 --> 00:01:47,199 Speaker 1: at Angela Arnold MD dot com. Rob Slattery, the PI 22 00:01:47,400 --> 00:01:53,480 Speaker 1: hired by Caleb's family. Former Brooklyn, Ohio Officer, SWAT Team member, 23 00:01:54,000 --> 00:01:59,600 Speaker 1: Private Eye at JAB Investigative Services. Joseph Scott Morgan, Professor Forensics, 24 00:01:59,680 --> 00:02:03,160 Speaker 1: Jackson State University, author of Blood Beneath My Feet on 25 00:02:03,240 --> 00:02:07,120 Speaker 1: Amazon Now, the star of Poisonous Liaisons on the True 26 00:02:07,120 --> 00:02:10,440 Speaker 1: Crime Network, Crime Online dot Com, investig At Every Reporter, 27 00:02:10,720 --> 00:02:16,120 Speaker 1: Levi Page, renowned defense attorney practicing in multiple jurisdictions. Former 28 00:02:16,200 --> 00:02:23,960 Speaker 1: Prosecutor Daryl Cohen, and special guest Caleb's sister Amanda Albright. 29 00:02:25,800 --> 00:02:29,800 Speaker 1: Let's start at the beginning. This young guy, the whole 30 00:02:29,840 --> 00:02:34,079 Speaker 1: world ahead of him, goes out with friends to a restaurant, 31 00:02:34,200 --> 00:02:38,760 Speaker 1: the Barley House. Take a listen to this. He would 32 00:02:38,800 --> 00:02:42,280 Speaker 1: do anything for anybody. Brianna Robert says her uncle Caleb 33 00:02:42,400 --> 00:02:44,400 Speaker 1: was a guy who loved his family and to have 34 00:02:44,440 --> 00:02:47,839 Speaker 1: a good time. He was like a jokester, and that's 35 00:02:47,840 --> 00:02:50,480 Speaker 1: what The Knight of Me seventeenth started out. As Caleb 36 00:02:50,520 --> 00:02:53,560 Speaker 1: and friends went to Barley House in Cleveland. There was 37 00:02:53,840 --> 00:02:58,520 Speaker 1: an exchange, verbal exchange, and he was asked to leave 38 00:02:58,520 --> 00:03:01,520 Speaker 1: the establishment. But he never went back to his Westlake home. 39 00:03:01,919 --> 00:03:05,080 Speaker 1: According to witnesses, Caleb walked about ten more minutes where 40 00:03:05,080 --> 00:03:07,480 Speaker 1: he was involved in a fight with a group outside 41 00:03:07,520 --> 00:03:10,120 Speaker 1: of the Archer apartments in the Flats. Then he kept 42 00:03:10,160 --> 00:03:13,720 Speaker 1: walking for twelve days. His family and friends looked for him. 43 00:03:14,080 --> 00:03:18,239 Speaker 1: His body eventually found in the river. His death ruled accidental. 44 00:03:18,520 --> 00:03:21,600 Speaker 1: His keys closed. Doesn't make sense, like somebody had to 45 00:03:21,600 --> 00:03:25,359 Speaker 1: have placed him there. It doesn't make sense. Here hearing 46 00:03:25,400 --> 00:03:29,080 Speaker 1: our friends at WWS News five Cleveland. That was Jesse's 47 00:03:29,080 --> 00:03:32,760 Speaker 1: Schultz speaking. So he and his friends are all out 48 00:03:32,800 --> 00:03:37,920 Speaker 1: at this Barley House restaurant bar at some point, you know, 49 00:03:37,960 --> 00:03:40,880 Speaker 1: everybody's having a good time and drinking. There's a verbal 50 00:03:41,000 --> 00:03:48,240 Speaker 1: altercation and Caleb leaves. He spotted on video he doesn't 51 00:03:48,400 --> 00:03:52,520 Speaker 1: have his cell phone, so he's obviously trying to figure out, Okay, 52 00:03:52,680 --> 00:03:54,280 Speaker 1: now what am I going to do? I don't I 53 00:03:54,280 --> 00:03:57,280 Speaker 1: can't find my cell phone with me Levi Page Crime 54 00:03:57,320 --> 00:04:02,040 Speaker 1: Online dot Com investigative reporter Levi where was his cell phone? Nancy? 55 00:04:02,080 --> 00:04:05,240 Speaker 1: Apparently it was left in the car of the people 56 00:04:05,480 --> 00:04:09,160 Speaker 1: that he was riding with to get to downtown Cleveland. 57 00:04:09,200 --> 00:04:13,320 Speaker 1: Just to set up the timeline, it's May seventeenth, twenty twenty, 58 00:04:13,400 --> 00:04:16,440 Speaker 1: and he's hanging out with friends at Crocker Park Bar, 59 00:04:16,800 --> 00:04:20,200 Speaker 1: which is in Westlake, Ohio. That's a nice suburb where 60 00:04:20,240 --> 00:04:24,719 Speaker 1: he lived, about twelve miles away from Cleveland, and then 61 00:04:24,760 --> 00:04:27,599 Speaker 1: they decided that they wanted to go to Cleveland to 62 00:04:27,720 --> 00:04:29,960 Speaker 1: have more fun, to go to another bar, and that's 63 00:04:30,000 --> 00:04:32,960 Speaker 1: how they ended up in Cleveland. And his cell phone 64 00:04:33,040 --> 00:04:35,840 Speaker 1: was left in someone's vehicle. So this is now where 65 00:04:35,839 --> 00:04:37,800 Speaker 1: where he lives. He's like fifteen miles at least from 66 00:04:37,800 --> 00:04:41,000 Speaker 1: where he lives in the suburbs. Yes, or Westlake, Ohio 67 00:04:41,120 --> 00:04:44,520 Speaker 1: is the suburb. Suburb, very nice area, and then twelve 68 00:04:44,560 --> 00:04:48,640 Speaker 1: miles away is Cleveland where he vanished. So he goes 69 00:04:48,720 --> 00:04:53,680 Speaker 1: to downtown Cleveland to this Barley House bar restaurant, and 70 00:04:53,680 --> 00:04:57,200 Speaker 1: he's with all of his friends. Everybody's having a good time, 71 00:04:57,360 --> 00:05:03,200 Speaker 1: and a verbal argument ensued and Caleb leaves. Caleb Marple 72 00:05:03,560 --> 00:05:09,279 Speaker 1: leaves to you. Rob Slattery PI at JAB Investigative Services. 73 00:05:09,279 --> 00:05:11,919 Speaker 1: Thanks Rob for being with us. Rob. What does that 74 00:05:12,200 --> 00:05:17,640 Speaker 1: video surveillance show Caleb is doing outside the Burly House. Well, 75 00:05:17,760 --> 00:05:21,839 Speaker 1: we have been provided very little video. We have submitted 76 00:05:22,400 --> 00:05:27,400 Speaker 1: multiple requests to the City of Cleveland for the entire 77 00:05:27,440 --> 00:05:31,320 Speaker 1: investigative file. We are actually in the court of claims now. 78 00:05:31,320 --> 00:05:34,120 Speaker 1: We had to file a lawsuit against the city to 79 00:05:34,240 --> 00:05:39,520 Speaker 1: obtain records. Excuse me. We've been able to obtain some records, 80 00:05:39,560 --> 00:05:43,280 Speaker 1: but none of the videos. They at first they didn't 81 00:05:43,279 --> 00:05:46,880 Speaker 1: have any videos, and then we showed them in other 82 00:05:46,960 --> 00:05:50,400 Speaker 1: reports that videos have been turned over to them. They 83 00:05:50,440 --> 00:05:52,920 Speaker 1: now admit there's more than two hours of video, but 84 00:05:53,080 --> 00:05:55,520 Speaker 1: we still have knocked got our hands on those videos. 85 00:05:55,920 --> 00:05:59,640 Speaker 1: What little we do have though, we see that Caleb 86 00:06:00,279 --> 00:06:04,680 Speaker 1: to walk away from the barley house, not bothering anybody 87 00:06:05,640 --> 00:06:08,480 Speaker 1: and just kind of walks out of you. You know, 88 00:06:08,920 --> 00:06:13,080 Speaker 1: I've been there too, Doctor Angel Arnold. Psychiatrists joined me 89 00:06:13,080 --> 00:06:16,239 Speaker 1: out of the Atlanta jurisdiction, Doctor Angie, I will never forget. 90 00:06:16,720 --> 00:06:20,680 Speaker 1: I was not out of the cab for one minute 91 00:06:20,680 --> 00:06:23,760 Speaker 1: before I realized the cab had driven off with my 92 00:06:23,800 --> 00:06:27,960 Speaker 1: cell phone. I tried to get myself get the guy back, 93 00:06:28,000 --> 00:06:31,480 Speaker 1: but it was gone. So that's what happens here. And 94 00:06:31,480 --> 00:06:33,640 Speaker 1: it's a thing like we're so used to our cell phones, 95 00:06:34,040 --> 00:06:35,640 Speaker 1: you don't know what to do. And I'm looking at 96 00:06:35,680 --> 00:06:39,559 Speaker 1: the video of Kila right now, he comes out of 97 00:06:39,600 --> 00:06:44,320 Speaker 1: the barley house, and he's just leaned up. He can 98 00:06:44,400 --> 00:06:48,560 Speaker 1: walk fine. He is not inebriated. He's walking around. He's 99 00:06:48,560 --> 00:06:50,479 Speaker 1: trying to figure out what am I going to do 100 00:06:50,480 --> 00:06:53,920 Speaker 1: without my cell phone? And then finally he just takes off. 101 00:06:53,960 --> 00:06:56,760 Speaker 1: At one point I can see him gesture like arms 102 00:06:56,839 --> 00:06:59,640 Speaker 1: up in the air, like oh, and he starts walking. 103 00:07:00,000 --> 00:07:03,080 Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying, I don't see anything amiss. Yet 104 00:07:03,680 --> 00:07:06,880 Speaker 1: I agree with you in what sense. I agree with 105 00:07:06,880 --> 00:07:09,000 Speaker 1: what you're saying about what you don't that you don't 106 00:07:09,000 --> 00:07:12,800 Speaker 1: see anything amiss. And also I mean, for goodness sake, 107 00:07:13,200 --> 00:07:15,440 Speaker 1: everything in our lives are on our cell phones. Nope, 108 00:07:15,640 --> 00:07:19,160 Speaker 1: people don't memorize phone numbers or anything anymore. So he's 109 00:07:19,200 --> 00:07:21,040 Speaker 1: all on his own now once he's out of that bar, 110 00:07:21,200 --> 00:07:24,680 Speaker 1: isn't he. He's not quite sure why he left by himself. 111 00:07:25,040 --> 00:07:28,120 Speaker 1: That's just something that I've been pondering. But he's all 112 00:07:28,160 --> 00:07:30,520 Speaker 1: on his own now, isn't he? Take a listen to 113 00:07:30,560 --> 00:07:34,760 Speaker 1: our friend Alex Stokes at Fox eight. His friends say 114 00:07:34,760 --> 00:07:37,160 Speaker 1: they are grateful for the support they have received, both 115 00:07:37,160 --> 00:07:39,680 Speaker 1: online and in person. People who can't be here of 116 00:07:39,720 --> 00:07:43,640 Speaker 1: Alfred to make flyers or bring snacks or anything that 117 00:07:43,680 --> 00:07:45,800 Speaker 1: they could do or drop off to show some type 118 00:07:45,800 --> 00:07:48,320 Speaker 1: of support for our search party, but they are still 119 00:07:48,360 --> 00:07:52,960 Speaker 1: hoping someone may have more information. Check your phones, check 120 00:07:53,160 --> 00:07:57,320 Speaker 1: your instagrams, anything, anyone that was out that night. Every 121 00:07:57,400 --> 00:07:59,920 Speaker 1: day that has gone by without him has been painful. 122 00:08:00,280 --> 00:08:02,480 Speaker 1: I know my husband's heart is torn out. It was 123 00:08:02,520 --> 00:08:05,120 Speaker 1: his best friend, and I've never seen him right so much. 124 00:08:06,480 --> 00:08:11,040 Speaker 1: He's very lost straight now, and that's why I'm doing this. 125 00:08:11,240 --> 00:08:14,080 Speaker 1: I loved Caleb as well, but I know my husband 126 00:08:14,800 --> 00:08:18,840 Speaker 1: is lost. Is lovely. He's trying to stay positive the riddle. 127 00:08:19,240 --> 00:08:23,840 Speaker 1: I'm hopeful that he is alive. I do feel that 128 00:08:23,880 --> 00:08:27,080 Speaker 1: there's something wrong and I want to be able to 129 00:08:27,120 --> 00:08:31,080 Speaker 1: find him. And I really, truly, in my heart, feel 130 00:08:31,120 --> 00:08:35,280 Speaker 1: that God is on our side in this. You're hearing friends, 131 00:08:35,480 --> 00:08:39,440 Speaker 1: family speaking out. When Caleb first goes missing, I can 132 00:08:39,679 --> 00:08:43,240 Speaker 1: see in the video when he leaves the Barley House, 133 00:08:43,679 --> 00:08:51,079 Speaker 1: he's walking perfectly fine. He doesn't look inebriated, he's not 134 00:08:51,240 --> 00:08:54,760 Speaker 1: in an argument nothing. He walks outside the Barley House, 135 00:08:54,800 --> 00:08:56,840 Speaker 1: He's standing there like he's trying to figure out what 136 00:08:56,880 --> 00:08:59,199 Speaker 1: am I gonna do without myself? And I can't call 137 00:08:59,280 --> 00:09:01,960 Speaker 1: for a taxi. I can't call for an uber and 138 00:09:02,000 --> 00:09:04,720 Speaker 1: then finally he throws one arm up and starts walking. 139 00:09:05,720 --> 00:09:09,640 Speaker 1: Friends and family at the beginning, holding out hope that 140 00:09:09,840 --> 00:09:30,480 Speaker 1: Caleb is alive. Crime Stories with Nancy Grace, What happened 141 00:09:30,480 --> 00:09:35,600 Speaker 1: to Caleb Marple with me? Now, let's go to someone 142 00:09:35,640 --> 00:09:38,320 Speaker 1: that knows him better than any of us. His sister, 143 00:09:38,559 --> 00:09:42,760 Speaker 1: Amanda Albright. Amanda, thank you for being with us the 144 00:09:42,880 --> 00:09:47,840 Speaker 1: day you learn Caleb is missing. What happened? Amanda? So, 145 00:09:48,080 --> 00:09:51,520 Speaker 1: I was actually at the grocery store and with my daughter. 146 00:09:51,760 --> 00:09:54,800 Speaker 1: He had done at text to him, just asking if 147 00:09:54,840 --> 00:09:57,280 Speaker 1: he needs us to pick anything up for him, and 148 00:09:58,000 --> 00:10:00,840 Speaker 1: what we got back with a response from his neighbor 149 00:10:02,040 --> 00:10:04,960 Speaker 1: saying that she had his cell phone and that she 150 00:10:05,000 --> 00:10:07,880 Speaker 1: did not know where he went. Okay, wait a minute, 151 00:10:08,480 --> 00:10:10,400 Speaker 1: why did the neighbor have the cell phone? Was that 152 00:10:10,440 --> 00:10:12,679 Speaker 1: who he got a ride with? It's not clear to 153 00:10:12,720 --> 00:10:16,840 Speaker 1: me exactly who they got a ride with that his 154 00:10:16,960 --> 00:10:20,319 Speaker 1: neighbor has told police that it was two girls that 155 00:10:20,360 --> 00:10:23,960 Speaker 1: they had met that night gave them a ride downtown. Okay, 156 00:10:24,200 --> 00:10:29,400 Speaker 1: so they were at first at this local suburban restaurant 157 00:10:29,440 --> 00:10:33,359 Speaker 1: bar and then they all decide to go into Cleveland 158 00:10:33,880 --> 00:10:36,920 Speaker 1: to the barley house that must be the people they 159 00:10:36,920 --> 00:10:40,800 Speaker 1: got the ride with the two girls. Correct. Okay, so 160 00:10:40,840 --> 00:10:45,160 Speaker 1: then the neighbor because of the ride ends up with 161 00:10:45,360 --> 00:10:49,200 Speaker 1: Caleb's phone. Is the neighbor that you spoke with that 162 00:10:49,280 --> 00:10:52,640 Speaker 1: answered his phone? Was he or she at the Barley 163 00:10:52,640 --> 00:10:56,920 Speaker 1: House that night? Yes? What did she say happened? She 164 00:10:57,160 --> 00:11:00,559 Speaker 1: told us that she did not see him leave, so 165 00:11:01,080 --> 00:11:05,920 Speaker 1: she doesn't know why he laughed, and that was basically it. 166 00:11:06,600 --> 00:11:10,679 Speaker 1: They laugh without his cell phone. And really those people 167 00:11:10,840 --> 00:11:13,360 Speaker 1: are that he went to the Barley House with a 168 00:11:13,480 --> 00:11:15,920 Speaker 1: kind of out of the mix because we see him 169 00:11:16,400 --> 00:11:20,000 Speaker 1: leaving alone and walking off like he's going to try 170 00:11:20,000 --> 00:11:23,480 Speaker 1: to get a ride home to you leave my page, 171 00:11:23,520 --> 00:11:28,400 Speaker 1: Crime online dot Com investigative reporter. What happens next? So, 172 00:11:28,600 --> 00:11:31,160 Speaker 1: as you mentioned, we saw the security camera of him 173 00:11:31,240 --> 00:11:35,320 Speaker 1: walking out alone and ten minutes later, he gets into 174 00:11:35,400 --> 00:11:38,480 Speaker 1: a confrontation with a group of people outside of an 175 00:11:38,520 --> 00:11:42,760 Speaker 1: apartment Complict Archer apartment. It's less than half a mile 176 00:11:42,920 --> 00:11:46,800 Speaker 1: from the Barley House, and one witness told police that 177 00:11:47,280 --> 00:11:51,240 Speaker 1: Caleb was body slammed, and the police has said some 178 00:11:51,320 --> 00:11:56,120 Speaker 1: witnesses lied to them and we're not forthcoming whatever happened. 179 00:11:56,160 --> 00:12:00,120 Speaker 1: We do know that security cameras inside the archer apart 180 00:12:00,920 --> 00:12:05,160 Speaker 1: actually so blood on the steps of the apartments inside. 181 00:12:06,679 --> 00:12:09,520 Speaker 1: This is a lot of evidence and it's effecting the timeline. 182 00:12:09,920 --> 00:12:11,920 Speaker 1: First of all, take a listen to Alex Stoates at 183 00:12:12,040 --> 00:12:16,000 Speaker 1: Fox eight. Friends and family of Caleb Marple gathered in 184 00:12:16,040 --> 00:12:19,760 Speaker 1: the flats in downtown Cleveland Saturday, organized in several groups 185 00:12:19,760 --> 00:12:22,000 Speaker 1: on land and by boat to try and find the 186 00:12:22,120 --> 00:12:24,720 Speaker 1: thirty nine year old. We're here because we love Caleb. 187 00:12:25,240 --> 00:12:28,040 Speaker 1: Marple had been seen around midnight on May eighteenth at 188 00:12:28,080 --> 00:12:30,440 Speaker 1: Barley House, a bar on West sixth Street, where he 189 00:12:30,440 --> 00:12:33,120 Speaker 1: had gone with friends. It was reported to police that 190 00:12:33,160 --> 00:12:35,920 Speaker 1: he had left his phone in an uber. Caleb's friends 191 00:12:36,040 --> 00:12:38,440 Speaker 1: organized the search party because they say this is out 192 00:12:38,480 --> 00:12:41,640 Speaker 1: of character for him and they're worried. He's not a 193 00:12:41,720 --> 00:12:44,960 Speaker 1: drug user, he doesn't have history of mental illness. Yeah, 194 00:12:45,920 --> 00:12:48,600 Speaker 1: he did not have his phone, His car and apartment 195 00:12:48,679 --> 00:12:53,520 Speaker 1: are left untouched. He's we feel there's something wrong that 196 00:12:53,600 --> 00:12:55,680 Speaker 1: we need to find him and bring him home. While 197 00:12:55,679 --> 00:12:58,800 Speaker 1: the search was organized by Caleb's friends, Cleveland police were 198 00:12:58,880 --> 00:13:02,440 Speaker 1: there to help. Groups were separated into five zones, covering 199 00:13:02,440 --> 00:13:05,040 Speaker 1: both the east and west banks of the flats, and 200 00:13:05,080 --> 00:13:07,240 Speaker 1: they will stay within their zone until they look in 201 00:13:07,320 --> 00:13:11,000 Speaker 1: every dumpster, every alleyway, knock on every private property doors. 202 00:13:11,880 --> 00:13:14,680 Speaker 1: Let me understand something. We leave by page, you're saying 203 00:13:14,720 --> 00:13:18,160 Speaker 1: that we're hearing all the friends saying he does not 204 00:13:18,320 --> 00:13:22,400 Speaker 1: use drugs. He does not have any mental health issues. 205 00:13:23,080 --> 00:13:26,400 Speaker 1: He left his phone in an Uber, but I think 206 00:13:26,440 --> 00:13:29,640 Speaker 1: that got lost in translation because somewhere along the way 207 00:13:29,640 --> 00:13:32,320 Speaker 1: somebody he left it with his ride, so that was 208 00:13:32,360 --> 00:13:34,600 Speaker 1: translated to me and Uber, but it was with the 209 00:13:34,640 --> 00:13:38,880 Speaker 1: people he drove to the Brawley house with. So explain 210 00:13:38,960 --> 00:13:45,360 Speaker 1: to me, leave by page how he ends up getting attacked. 211 00:13:45,440 --> 00:13:48,520 Speaker 1: Hold on, take a listen to Jesse Schultz a WWS 212 00:13:49,440 --> 00:13:52,480 Speaker 1: in Westlake police reports, one witness says she saw Caleb 213 00:13:52,559 --> 00:13:56,040 Speaker 1: get body slammed. The report shows police found blood near 214 00:13:56,080 --> 00:13:59,760 Speaker 1: the Archer apartment's entryway. Now, the goal is to overt 215 00:14:00,160 --> 00:14:02,560 Speaker 1: the cause of death ruling and get Cleveland police to 216 00:14:02,640 --> 00:14:06,600 Speaker 1: investigate further. It's hard not to question some of the things, 217 00:14:06,720 --> 00:14:09,880 Speaker 1: some of the actions that were taken, and how Cleveland 218 00:14:10,400 --> 00:14:16,240 Speaker 1: conducted this lack of an investigation. They say they're slowly 219 00:14:16,280 --> 00:14:19,280 Speaker 1: putting the pieces together and are confident they'll soon have 220 00:14:19,320 --> 00:14:21,720 Speaker 1: a clear picture of what happened that night, But have 221 00:14:21,840 --> 00:14:25,000 Speaker 1: one message for anyone involved, well, sooner or later, the 222 00:14:25,040 --> 00:14:27,120 Speaker 1: truth's going to come out. Too many people know what 223 00:14:27,240 --> 00:14:30,440 Speaker 1: happened that night, too many people were involved. The truth 224 00:14:30,800 --> 00:14:37,280 Speaker 1: will come out. But when Amanda Albright, Caleb's sister, is 225 00:14:37,360 --> 00:14:40,360 Speaker 1: with us, as well as a private eye hired by 226 00:14:40,720 --> 00:14:44,680 Speaker 1: Caleb's family, Leavi Page, How in the world is this 227 00:14:44,760 --> 00:14:47,560 Speaker 1: guy who I can tell in the video he's not drunk, 228 00:14:47,600 --> 00:14:52,000 Speaker 1: he's walking perfectly fine, he walks away. How does he 229 00:14:52,160 --> 00:14:56,600 Speaker 1: end up body slammed and in front of Archer Apartments? 230 00:14:57,360 --> 00:15:00,600 Speaker 1: Where is Archer Apartments as it relates to the Barley Half? 231 00:15:01,040 --> 00:15:04,640 Speaker 1: Why is there blood found? Is it Cal's blood? So? 232 00:15:05,720 --> 00:15:11,320 Speaker 1: The Archer Apartments is about half a mile or less 233 00:15:11,400 --> 00:15:14,880 Speaker 1: from the bar that he was at the Barley House. 234 00:15:15,120 --> 00:15:18,080 Speaker 1: You can walk there, that's how he got there. And 235 00:15:18,720 --> 00:15:24,440 Speaker 1: security cameras show a group of people, young people entering 236 00:15:24,560 --> 00:15:27,680 Speaker 1: the apartment. One guy has blood on his hand and 237 00:15:27,720 --> 00:15:32,040 Speaker 1: he's ducking fighting his face from the camera. And then 238 00:15:32,120 --> 00:15:38,360 Speaker 1: the steps when you enter that apartment building, there's blood 239 00:15:38,520 --> 00:15:41,240 Speaker 1: on the steps. We do not know if that blood 240 00:15:41,280 --> 00:15:46,360 Speaker 1: has been identified as Caleb's or anyone else's blood. But 241 00:15:46,480 --> 00:15:50,480 Speaker 1: what police have revealed is that a witness to this 242 00:15:50,600 --> 00:15:56,240 Speaker 1: altercation said that Caleb was body slammed, And they've also 243 00:15:56,280 --> 00:15:58,720 Speaker 1: said that some of the people that they have interviewed 244 00:15:59,080 --> 00:16:01,680 Speaker 1: have not been forth coming and have led to them 245 00:16:01,760 --> 00:16:06,000 Speaker 1: about what happened. I don't understand Rob Slattery PI with 246 00:16:06,200 --> 00:16:10,560 Speaker 1: JAB Investigative Services. He's walking along, clearly looking for a 247 00:16:10,640 --> 00:16:13,240 Speaker 1: cab or a way to get back home. So he 248 00:16:13,320 --> 00:16:17,880 Speaker 1: walks probably about a five minute walk max. To the 249 00:16:17,920 --> 00:16:22,240 Speaker 1: first thing he sees, and that's the Archer House apartments. 250 00:16:22,680 --> 00:16:25,560 Speaker 1: I assume as a high rise, there are people out front. 251 00:16:25,640 --> 00:16:29,400 Speaker 1: How does he get end up getting body slammed? He 252 00:16:29,560 --> 00:16:33,360 Speaker 1: ended up the group of people that were entering walking 253 00:16:33,440 --> 00:16:36,480 Speaker 1: up and entering into the Archer apartments was the same 254 00:16:36,560 --> 00:16:38,600 Speaker 1: group of people from the Barley House that he had 255 00:16:38,640 --> 00:16:42,120 Speaker 1: the confrontation with. They just happened to be crossing paths. 256 00:16:43,000 --> 00:16:47,760 Speaker 1: He left the bar first, that's documented by video. I 257 00:16:47,880 --> 00:16:50,160 Speaker 1: just think he happened to be wandering that way trying 258 00:16:50,160 --> 00:16:52,400 Speaker 1: to figure out what he was going to do to 259 00:16:52,520 --> 00:16:56,600 Speaker 1: kind of save his night and get home, and he 260 00:16:56,680 --> 00:17:03,240 Speaker 1: came across these people and Davey came agitated and more 261 00:17:03,240 --> 00:17:08,240 Speaker 1: aggressive by the statements that Westlake Police took. One of 262 00:17:08,280 --> 00:17:11,400 Speaker 1: the people finally admitted to shoving Caleb and knocking him 263 00:17:11,400 --> 00:17:14,320 Speaker 1: to the ground, and then another one of the people 264 00:17:14,320 --> 00:17:18,199 Speaker 1: in the group, the term was scooped him up and 265 00:17:18,400 --> 00:17:23,280 Speaker 1: body slammed him. But there's another statement by Westlake Police 266 00:17:24,200 --> 00:17:28,000 Speaker 1: one of the females in the group that this person 267 00:17:28,359 --> 00:17:34,359 Speaker 1: punched Caleb multiple times. So this was not a mutual 268 00:17:34,400 --> 00:17:38,760 Speaker 1: combatant fight. This was an attack that would classify as 269 00:17:38,800 --> 00:17:41,760 Speaker 1: an assault. So the same group that he had a 270 00:17:41,840 --> 00:17:46,080 Speaker 1: verbal altercation with in the Barley House, he happens upon 271 00:17:46,920 --> 00:17:51,280 Speaker 1: five or six minutes later at the Archer House apartments. 272 00:17:51,560 --> 00:17:58,440 Speaker 1: There there he was quote body slammed and beaten. Also, 273 00:17:59,240 --> 00:18:02,920 Speaker 1: I hope you're sitting down for this. In a police report, 274 00:18:03,280 --> 00:18:08,520 Speaker 1: one witness states he quote didn't know where they put 275 00:18:09,040 --> 00:18:14,359 Speaker 1: his body. But yet somehow this has been ruled an 276 00:18:14,359 --> 00:18:34,399 Speaker 1: accidental drowning crime stories with Nancy Grace. The curious death 277 00:18:34,960 --> 00:18:40,120 Speaker 1: of Caleb Marple is weighing on my mind. The pieces 278 00:18:40,119 --> 00:18:44,240 Speaker 1: are not fitting together. Take a listen to w KYC 279 00:18:44,560 --> 00:18:49,000 Speaker 1: three News Rachel Plansky. Three News investigates has obteen video 280 00:18:49,040 --> 00:18:52,399 Speaker 1: surveillance tracking much of Marple's final hours at the Barley 281 00:18:52,440 --> 00:18:55,880 Speaker 1: House on West six Commershal Marple talking with friends. One 282 00:18:55,880 --> 00:18:59,000 Speaker 1: minute after midnight, he walks out alone. His cell phone 283 00:18:59,040 --> 00:19:02,680 Speaker 1: was accidentally left in a car hours earlier. Within fifteen minutes, 284 00:19:02,680 --> 00:19:05,720 Speaker 1: he's outside the Archer Apartments on West ninth Street. That's 285 00:19:05,760 --> 00:19:07,919 Speaker 1: where he has a confrontation with a group of people. 286 00:19:08,440 --> 00:19:12,159 Speaker 1: Whatever happened was swift for bloody. Video cameras don't capture 287 00:19:12,160 --> 00:19:14,679 Speaker 1: an assault, but they do show a man walking away 288 00:19:14,880 --> 00:19:18,399 Speaker 1: blood dripping from his hand. Witnesses initially said Marvel was 289 00:19:18,400 --> 00:19:22,240 Speaker 1: merely pushed. Later a woman admitted he was quote body slammed. 290 00:19:23,320 --> 00:19:27,840 Speaker 1: To you, Joseph Scott Morgan, Professor of forensics, JACKSONA State University. 291 00:19:29,200 --> 00:19:34,080 Speaker 1: I know you deal strictly with forensic evidence, but I 292 00:19:34,200 --> 00:19:40,040 Speaker 1: find that very curious. Why the person going into the 293 00:19:40,160 --> 00:19:45,200 Speaker 1: Archer House apartments would duck his head so video surveillance 294 00:19:45,280 --> 00:19:48,800 Speaker 1: wouldn't catch his face. The same person with blood all 295 00:19:48,840 --> 00:19:52,120 Speaker 1: over his hands that was caught on video. What does 296 00:19:52,160 --> 00:19:55,560 Speaker 1: that mean to you regarding the blood, Well, what it 297 00:19:55,600 --> 00:19:58,359 Speaker 1: says to me is that if you're obscuring your face 298 00:19:58,400 --> 00:20:01,560 Speaker 1: in some way, you have an awareness there you're being watched, 299 00:20:01,840 --> 00:20:05,520 Speaker 1: that there is a camera there now too. I would 300 00:20:05,520 --> 00:20:09,160 Speaker 1: have to know more relative to what the sourcing of 301 00:20:09,160 --> 00:20:11,240 Speaker 1: this blood is. And right now, I think one of 302 00:20:11,240 --> 00:20:17,440 Speaker 1: the most troubling things is that, as Levi had mentioned earlier, Nancy, 303 00:20:17,040 --> 00:20:20,760 Speaker 1: there was no typology that was done relative to the 304 00:20:20,760 --> 00:20:23,200 Speaker 1: source of the blood that they found outside of this place, 305 00:20:23,440 --> 00:20:25,800 Speaker 1: and I think that's a shame. Is the blood now 306 00:20:26,040 --> 00:20:31,240 Speaker 1: lost forever to Rob's slattery. Private investigator a JAB Investigative 307 00:20:31,280 --> 00:20:35,919 Speaker 1: Services hired by Keli Marple's family, did anyone sample the 308 00:20:35,960 --> 00:20:39,320 Speaker 1: blood that was found to determine if it is callips there? 309 00:20:39,359 --> 00:20:41,159 Speaker 1: As far as the blood on the steps, there is 310 00:20:41,240 --> 00:20:44,320 Speaker 1: no documentation that we have been provided to show that 311 00:20:44,359 --> 00:20:47,640 Speaker 1: they did secure any of that for testing or just 312 00:20:48,320 --> 00:20:52,240 Speaker 1: as evidence. How much blood was there, it appeared to 313 00:20:52,280 --> 00:20:54,000 Speaker 1: me was quite a bit. I mean you could actually 314 00:20:54,119 --> 00:20:56,560 Speaker 1: during the playing of the video at normal speed, you 315 00:20:56,560 --> 00:20:59,679 Speaker 1: could actually see it dripping off of his hand. I mean, 316 00:21:00,359 --> 00:21:03,439 Speaker 1: depending on how much blood Joe Scott, it could have 317 00:21:03,520 --> 00:21:08,040 Speaker 1: indicated immortal wound. Yeah, yeah, You're absolutely right, it could 318 00:21:08,080 --> 00:21:12,040 Speaker 1: and I would I will say this the autopsy report 319 00:21:12,080 --> 00:21:15,960 Speaker 1: which I reviewed, there are two injuries. If our listeners 320 00:21:15,960 --> 00:21:19,360 Speaker 1: will simply take your right hand and place it directly 321 00:21:19,400 --> 00:21:22,320 Speaker 1: above your right ear. Just go up about two or 322 00:21:22,359 --> 00:21:26,239 Speaker 1: three inches. There's a two inch laceration right there, and 323 00:21:26,280 --> 00:21:29,560 Speaker 1: then behind that there's a one inch laceration. And when 324 00:21:29,600 --> 00:21:33,960 Speaker 1: they say laceration, Nancy, that means that's not a cut, Okay, 325 00:21:34,000 --> 00:21:36,239 Speaker 1: contrary to what people think when they hear laceration that's 326 00:21:36,280 --> 00:21:39,200 Speaker 1: associated with blood force trauma. What I would like to know, 327 00:21:39,760 --> 00:21:42,680 Speaker 1: I think is these people that are talking about him 328 00:21:42,720 --> 00:21:45,640 Speaker 1: being body slam, I'd like to know what the point 329 00:21:45,640 --> 00:21:49,920 Speaker 1: of contact was if they saw this fellow being body slam. 330 00:21:50,160 --> 00:21:52,840 Speaker 1: I want to know at what point where did his 331 00:21:52,960 --> 00:21:56,000 Speaker 1: body touch ground? Did when he was bodyslam did he 332 00:21:56,160 --> 00:22:00,400 Speaker 1: impact on that space? That space that we've talked about 333 00:22:00,440 --> 00:22:03,359 Speaker 1: adjacent to the right side of to the right ear, 334 00:22:03,880 --> 00:22:06,760 Speaker 1: is that the point of contact where where this concussive 335 00:22:06,840 --> 00:22:10,200 Speaker 1: event took place. So if he has quote body slammed, 336 00:22:10,600 --> 00:22:15,240 Speaker 1: gets notch unconscious and then as the witness said, he 337 00:22:15,400 --> 00:22:19,160 Speaker 1: didn't know where they put the body. Yeah, if he's 338 00:22:19,200 --> 00:22:23,399 Speaker 1: thrown in the water in that condition, he would drown, Yeah, 339 00:22:23,400 --> 00:22:25,280 Speaker 1: he would. And I have to tell you, you know, 340 00:22:25,320 --> 00:22:27,399 Speaker 1: looking through the autopsy reports, one of the things that 341 00:22:27,520 --> 00:22:29,720 Speaker 1: kind of jumps out at you. If I ever hear 342 00:22:29,880 --> 00:22:32,920 Speaker 1: that someone is drowned. The first place I'm going to 343 00:22:33,000 --> 00:22:36,040 Speaker 1: go in the autopsy, in the autopsy report or the 344 00:22:36,080 --> 00:22:40,199 Speaker 1: weight of the organs nancy both to his left and 345 00:22:40,320 --> 00:22:46,399 Speaker 1: his right lungs or double the standard weight. So he 346 00:22:46,520 --> 00:22:50,760 Speaker 1: had inhalated water. Now, if he was incapacitated by this 347 00:22:50,840 --> 00:22:54,240 Speaker 1: trauma to the head, he would not have had the ability, 348 00:22:54,560 --> 00:22:58,040 Speaker 1: okay to fight against this. He would have just been 349 00:22:58,080 --> 00:23:00,800 Speaker 1: in the water floating and have him wholighted the water, 350 00:23:00,960 --> 00:23:06,760 Speaker 1: subsequently drowning too. Amanda joining us is his Keeleb's sister. 351 00:23:07,400 --> 00:23:10,639 Speaker 1: Did Kelle know how to swim? Yeah, no doubt about it, 352 00:23:10,880 --> 00:23:13,560 Speaker 1: No doubt. Yes, guys, take a listen to our friend 353 00:23:13,640 --> 00:23:16,960 Speaker 1: Dave Mackett Crime online dot Com. Thirty nine year old 354 00:23:17,000 --> 00:23:19,840 Speaker 1: bachelor Caleb Marple is out with friends at a Crocker 355 00:23:19,880 --> 00:23:22,600 Speaker 1: Park bar when the group decides to go downtown to 356 00:23:22,680 --> 00:23:26,920 Speaker 1: Cleveland's Warehouse District just after midnight. He finds himself outside 357 00:23:26,920 --> 00:23:29,680 Speaker 1: the bar alone and without his cell phone. He left 358 00:23:29,720 --> 00:23:31,719 Speaker 1: that inside the car of a woman who drove him 359 00:23:31,760 --> 00:23:35,000 Speaker 1: and two friends downtown. Street cameras follow Marple as he 360 00:23:35,000 --> 00:23:37,439 Speaker 1: walks around for about ten minutes when he arrives at 361 00:23:37,440 --> 00:23:40,119 Speaker 1: the Archer Apartments, where he is involved in a confrontation 362 00:23:40,160 --> 00:23:43,199 Speaker 1: with a group of people. Witnesses tell police that Marple 363 00:23:43,240 --> 00:23:46,439 Speaker 1: was pushed during the altercation. The report was later changed 364 00:23:46,480 --> 00:23:50,120 Speaker 1: when a witness claimed Marple was body slammed. Surveillance video 365 00:23:50,160 --> 00:23:53,239 Speaker 1: from the Archer Apartments doesn't show the incident, but it 366 00:23:53,280 --> 00:23:55,960 Speaker 1: does show six to eight people entering the apartment complex, 367 00:23:56,000 --> 00:23:58,480 Speaker 1: with one man ducking his head from camera view with 368 00:23:58,560 --> 00:24:01,439 Speaker 1: blood dripping from his hand. A woman walking behind the 369 00:24:01,480 --> 00:24:03,520 Speaker 1: man is seen pointing out the blood drops on the 370 00:24:03,560 --> 00:24:08,400 Speaker 1: indoor steps. Caleb Marble has never seen again. To Amanda Albright, 371 00:24:08,520 --> 00:24:11,359 Speaker 1: Caleb's sister, Amanda, again, thank you for being with us. 372 00:24:11,760 --> 00:24:15,600 Speaker 1: What do you believe happened that night? I believe that 373 00:24:15,920 --> 00:24:19,240 Speaker 1: either he was placed in the water or he substained 374 00:24:19,280 --> 00:24:26,920 Speaker 1: some sort of injury that would have, you know, if 375 00:24:26,920 --> 00:24:30,119 Speaker 1: he were to have fallen in But even that, I 376 00:24:30,160 --> 00:24:33,680 Speaker 1: don't think it's possible given the location in which he 377 00:24:33,800 --> 00:24:36,800 Speaker 1: was found. What do you mean by given the location? 378 00:24:37,119 --> 00:24:40,480 Speaker 1: The location that he was found is a small water 379 00:24:40,560 --> 00:24:44,520 Speaker 1: bay which has fencing all around, so he would have 380 00:24:44,560 --> 00:24:47,760 Speaker 1: had to have jumped over a since to have gotten 381 00:24:47,760 --> 00:24:52,760 Speaker 1: in the water over there, and this is not a 382 00:24:52,760 --> 00:24:56,560 Speaker 1: area where we see a lot of river flowing in 383 00:24:56,640 --> 00:25:01,199 Speaker 1: and out. To you, Rob Slattery, the pi Hire by 384 00:25:01,320 --> 00:25:05,760 Speaker 1: Kilbs family. I didn't realize that the water, the body 385 00:25:05,760 --> 00:25:09,840 Speaker 1: of water where he was found was surrounded by a fence. 386 00:25:10,640 --> 00:25:12,960 Speaker 1: There is quite a bit of fencing and railings and 387 00:25:13,280 --> 00:25:19,720 Speaker 1: different things to divide the water's edge for people passing by. 388 00:25:20,080 --> 00:25:23,639 Speaker 1: And they kind of tried to make it sound like 389 00:25:23,720 --> 00:25:25,800 Speaker 1: he he just wandered in and that was ed. He 390 00:25:25,880 --> 00:25:30,480 Speaker 1: fell in. It was his own fault. One of the 391 00:25:30,520 --> 00:25:35,600 Speaker 1: troubling parts that we see is with this timeline. He 392 00:25:36,119 --> 00:25:39,760 Speaker 1: was recovered on May twenty ninth. May thirtieth were the 393 00:25:39,880 --> 00:25:43,639 Speaker 1: riots in downtown Cleveland, and we believed that at that 394 00:25:43,760 --> 00:25:48,679 Speaker 1: point this was everything stopped. It was shelved. June first 395 00:25:49,440 --> 00:25:52,920 Speaker 1: was the day that the autopsy was signed off. On 396 00:25:53,440 --> 00:25:56,240 Speaker 1: June sixth, they decided that there were going to be 397 00:25:56,280 --> 00:26:02,160 Speaker 1: no charges for anyone, even though they had statements that 398 00:26:02,720 --> 00:26:06,040 Speaker 1: Caleb was struck and slammed to the ground. They decided 399 00:26:06,080 --> 00:26:08,560 Speaker 1: that there was insufficient evidence to even charge anybody with 400 00:26:08,600 --> 00:26:15,080 Speaker 1: the assault of Caleb. Logistically, Rob Slattery, how far away 401 00:26:15,400 --> 00:26:19,040 Speaker 1: is Archer apartments are Archer apartments. I guess it's high 402 00:26:19,119 --> 00:26:22,879 Speaker 1: rise where he was body slammed and one of his 403 00:26:22,920 --> 00:26:27,320 Speaker 1: attackers is left literally dripping in blood. How far is 404 00:26:27,359 --> 00:26:30,840 Speaker 1: that from where his body is found in a body 405 00:26:30,880 --> 00:26:35,840 Speaker 1: of water surrounded by a fence, Because he's body slammed 406 00:26:36,600 --> 00:26:41,640 Speaker 1: less than thirty minutes before he disappears. So how far 407 00:26:41,680 --> 00:26:46,520 Speaker 1: away is Archer Apartments from the body of water? It's 408 00:26:46,520 --> 00:26:49,919 Speaker 1: really not that far. It's over a bridge and down 409 00:26:50,080 --> 00:26:57,240 Speaker 1: several streets walking ten minute walks while minute walk roughly 410 00:26:57,400 --> 00:27:00,800 Speaker 1: something like that. So there he is. He would have 411 00:27:00,920 --> 00:27:06,520 Speaker 1: to walk after body slammed, losing blood, beaten up two 412 00:27:06,640 --> 00:27:09,000 Speaker 1: lacerations to the head, he would have to walk about 413 00:27:09,040 --> 00:27:26,240 Speaker 1: fifteen minutes, climb over a fence and drown himself. Prime 414 00:27:26,320 --> 00:27:30,800 Speaker 1: Stories with Nancy Grace. Guys, we are talking about the 415 00:27:31,280 --> 00:27:35,040 Speaker 1: curious death of a young man and the prime of 416 00:27:35,160 --> 00:27:39,920 Speaker 1: his life starts out a local restaurant bar with his buddies. 417 00:27:40,520 --> 00:27:43,000 Speaker 1: They meet up with some women. They decide to go 418 00:27:43,160 --> 00:27:48,359 Speaker 1: downtown Cleveland. That's where the trouble starts. At another restaurant 419 00:27:48,359 --> 00:27:52,320 Speaker 1: bar named the Barley House. He goes in his phone, 420 00:27:52,680 --> 00:27:59,320 Speaker 1: is left and in his ride's car everybody's having a 421 00:27:59,359 --> 00:28:02,359 Speaker 1: good time. He leaves the bar after he gets a 422 00:28:02,960 --> 00:28:07,240 Speaker 1: verbal fuss with somebody. He starts walking, trying to get 423 00:28:07,240 --> 00:28:12,440 Speaker 1: away home. About five to eight minutes away, he gets 424 00:28:12,440 --> 00:28:17,600 Speaker 1: to the Archer House apartment complex and there he runs 425 00:28:17,640 --> 00:28:25,200 Speaker 1: in fortuitously with the same people that argue with him 426 00:28:25,240 --> 00:28:29,960 Speaker 1: at Burley House. They body slam him and beat him. 427 00:28:30,440 --> 00:28:34,000 Speaker 1: One witness saying he quote didn't know where they put 428 00:28:34,240 --> 00:28:41,920 Speaker 1: the body. Yet this still remains an accidental death ruling. 429 00:28:43,160 --> 00:28:47,240 Speaker 1: Take a listen to Brian Duffy are cut nine at 430 00:28:47,400 --> 00:28:54,240 Speaker 1: WOIOTV nineteen. Caleb Marple's family believes that justice is within reach, 431 00:28:54,400 --> 00:28:58,560 Speaker 1: that the truth they believe in is just an investigation away. 432 00:28:58,800 --> 00:29:01,640 Speaker 1: Marple lost his life after a night out in the 433 00:29:01,680 --> 00:29:05,560 Speaker 1: Warehouse district. We're putting together quite a puzzle here, and 434 00:29:05,720 --> 00:29:08,600 Speaker 1: we're just trying to get justice for the family. Rob Slattery, 435 00:29:08,640 --> 00:29:12,120 Speaker 1: a former police officer, is the private investigator that Marple's 436 00:29:12,160 --> 00:29:16,480 Speaker 1: family hired. The medical examiner has ruled Caleb's death is accidental, 437 00:29:16,720 --> 00:29:20,600 Speaker 1: but Slattery believes there is now critical information regarding witness 438 00:29:20,640 --> 00:29:24,320 Speaker 1: statements and evidence regarding the condition of Caleb's body that 439 00:29:24,520 --> 00:29:26,880 Speaker 1: needs to be looked at in a different light, and 440 00:29:26,960 --> 00:29:29,440 Speaker 1: we hope it changes his mind to where they change 441 00:29:29,440 --> 00:29:32,640 Speaker 1: the cause of death to undetermined at this time. Witness statements, 442 00:29:32,640 --> 00:29:35,040 Speaker 1: Slattery says, include two who claimed to have known that 443 00:29:35,080 --> 00:29:38,520 Speaker 1: Marple was dead in the days after the altercation, even 444 00:29:38,520 --> 00:29:42,440 Speaker 1: though the body was not found until twelve days after 445 00:29:42,520 --> 00:29:45,520 Speaker 1: he went missing. That's a critical point he'll make to 446 00:29:45,520 --> 00:29:49,240 Speaker 1: the medical examiner. I believe it forces the local law 447 00:29:49,320 --> 00:29:53,080 Speaker 1: enforcement to take another look at this and with me, 448 00:29:53,480 --> 00:29:57,360 Speaker 1: Rob Flattery, that private investigator who was speaking with Brian 449 00:29:57,880 --> 00:30:01,760 Speaker 1: Wio tell me about w this is that no Caleb 450 00:30:01,840 --> 00:30:04,800 Speaker 1: was dead before his body found. I got a phone 451 00:30:04,800 --> 00:30:07,280 Speaker 1: call from one of the people that was at the 452 00:30:07,320 --> 00:30:10,280 Speaker 1: Barley House in that group of people also at the Archer, 453 00:30:11,080 --> 00:30:13,400 Speaker 1: and I believe he was kind of just trying to 454 00:30:13,440 --> 00:30:17,200 Speaker 1: feel me out for information. But he tripped up and 455 00:30:17,400 --> 00:30:22,160 Speaker 1: he admitted that the next day he knew that Caleb 456 00:30:22,240 --> 00:30:24,760 Speaker 1: was dead. And I said, really, And I said, how 457 00:30:24,760 --> 00:30:26,720 Speaker 1: did you know that? He goes well? I got a 458 00:30:26,760 --> 00:30:28,680 Speaker 1: phone call from somebody and I said, who called you? 459 00:30:28,840 --> 00:30:31,280 Speaker 1: He goes well? I you know, he's stuttering. Well, I 460 00:30:31,280 --> 00:30:33,720 Speaker 1: don't remember he goes I kind of you know what, 461 00:30:33,800 --> 00:30:37,040 Speaker 1: I'm a little foggy and who called me? And I said, well, 462 00:30:37,640 --> 00:30:39,280 Speaker 1: it's amazing. I said, I need to meet with you. 463 00:30:39,400 --> 00:30:42,880 Speaker 1: I like take a formal statement. And he says, well, 464 00:30:42,880 --> 00:30:45,560 Speaker 1: why are you honing in on us? He says, it 465 00:30:45,640 --> 00:30:47,960 Speaker 1: seems like you're bullying and you're just picking on us. 466 00:30:48,320 --> 00:30:51,800 Speaker 1: And I said, well, you just admitted to knowing of 467 00:30:52,280 --> 00:30:53,840 Speaker 1: that someone was dead. You got a phone call that 468 00:30:53,880 --> 00:30:56,520 Speaker 1: he was dead, and his body hadn't been found for 469 00:30:56,520 --> 00:30:59,960 Speaker 1: another eleven, almost twelve days. They said, you guys were 470 00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:02,480 Speaker 1: the last ones to see them alive. I said, you 471 00:31:02,480 --> 00:31:05,480 Speaker 1: don't find that puzzling. I'm not going to ask you 472 00:31:05,520 --> 00:31:07,240 Speaker 1: the name because I know you would have already told 473 00:31:07,240 --> 00:31:09,840 Speaker 1: me if you wanted it to be public. But you 474 00:31:09,960 --> 00:31:12,960 Speaker 1: do know who you were speaking with, right I do. 475 00:31:13,160 --> 00:31:16,680 Speaker 1: Have you given the information to police yet? We're actually 476 00:31:16,720 --> 00:31:20,120 Speaker 1: going back and forth with the Cleveland Law Department trying 477 00:31:20,120 --> 00:31:22,920 Speaker 1: to get all the records from them. I have not 478 00:31:23,080 --> 00:31:26,000 Speaker 1: given this to them yet for the simple fact that 479 00:31:26,520 --> 00:31:29,120 Speaker 1: I don't think they'll do anything right now unless their 480 00:31:29,120 --> 00:31:32,040 Speaker 1: hands are tied, and this show today is going to, 481 00:31:32,200 --> 00:31:35,760 Speaker 1: I believe, help us tremendously with their qual The video 482 00:31:35,880 --> 00:31:38,520 Speaker 1: shows a group of six to eight people entering archer, 483 00:31:39,320 --> 00:31:43,240 Speaker 1: one man ducking his hand from the camera view, noticeably 484 00:31:43,560 --> 00:31:48,840 Speaker 1: dripping blood from his hand. A woman who follows points 485 00:31:49,760 --> 00:31:56,760 Speaker 1: to blood drops on the indoor steps. So this person 486 00:31:57,440 --> 00:32:04,320 Speaker 1: is still dripping blood even after he gets inside the archer. 487 00:32:05,840 --> 00:32:10,960 Speaker 1: That's a lot of blood. I mean, I don't understand 488 00:32:10,960 --> 00:32:14,440 Speaker 1: to you, Daryl Cohen, not only a renowned defense attorney 489 00:32:14,440 --> 00:32:18,640 Speaker 1: now but former prosecutor. I don't see how this could 490 00:32:18,640 --> 00:32:22,480 Speaker 1: be ignored by police and the District attorney's office. They're 491 00:32:22,520 --> 00:32:25,240 Speaker 1: in Cleveland. When you've got a witness and knows the 492 00:32:25,320 --> 00:32:28,160 Speaker 1: person's dead and their bodies are not found till ten 493 00:32:28,240 --> 00:32:32,320 Speaker 1: days later, that's a smoking gun, Daryl, Nancy, it's a 494 00:32:32,400 --> 00:32:38,440 Speaker 1: smoking ak forty seven. I don't understand. On a practical matter. 495 00:32:38,600 --> 00:32:44,040 Speaker 1: I do because they're overwhelmed and the pandemic has created 496 00:32:44,160 --> 00:32:48,000 Speaker 1: a morass of problems for law enforcement. And it was 497 00:32:48,080 --> 00:32:51,880 Speaker 1: pointed out earlier that there were riots in Cleveland, as 498 00:32:51,920 --> 00:32:55,800 Speaker 1: there were all over the country. But that doesn't excuse 499 00:32:56,400 --> 00:33:02,760 Speaker 1: a lack of good, solid investigating. And let me, Nancy, 500 00:33:02,840 --> 00:33:08,800 Speaker 1: let me return to this dying drowning. Let's just assume 501 00:33:08,880 --> 00:33:10,760 Speaker 1: for the moment he had been beaten up he had 502 00:33:10,760 --> 00:33:13,920 Speaker 1: been body slam He was bloody, and he was trying 503 00:33:13,920 --> 00:33:17,280 Speaker 1: to escape, and he did scale the fence or jump 504 00:33:17,320 --> 00:33:20,320 Speaker 1: the fence, and maybe he went into the water to 505 00:33:20,520 --> 00:33:24,320 Speaker 1: avoid being killed. Maybe he fell into the water. I 506 00:33:24,320 --> 00:33:28,840 Speaker 1: don't know, none of us were there. But that is murder. Yes, 507 00:33:28,880 --> 00:33:31,760 Speaker 1: he drowned because he was in the water in all likelihood, 508 00:33:32,000 --> 00:33:35,600 Speaker 1: but that is murder. But also when you take into 509 00:33:35,760 --> 00:33:40,120 Speaker 1: account the witness that says he didn't know what they 510 00:33:40,280 --> 00:33:45,000 Speaker 1: did with the body, indicates to me that killed was 511 00:33:45,080 --> 00:33:48,840 Speaker 1: dead and then the body was moved. Just so you know, 512 00:33:49,520 --> 00:33:53,320 Speaker 1: the local District Attorney's office phone number there is two 513 00:33:53,440 --> 00:33:58,440 Speaker 1: one six four four three seven eight hundred repeat two 514 00:33:58,520 --> 00:34:03,360 Speaker 1: one six three seven eight hundred and Brett if you 515 00:34:03,400 --> 00:34:06,040 Speaker 1: could double check that number for me. The Cleveland District 516 00:34:06,040 --> 00:34:10,319 Speaker 1: Attorney's office Cleveland Police is two one six six two 517 00:34:10,440 --> 00:34:14,959 Speaker 1: one one two three four repeat two one six six 518 00:34:15,080 --> 00:34:19,160 Speaker 1: two one one two three four. Why is it this 519 00:34:19,280 --> 00:34:25,440 Speaker 1: case being investigated? Straight back to keel AB's sister, Amanda Albright, Amanda, 520 00:34:26,000 --> 00:34:29,320 Speaker 1: what if anything are police or the District Attorney's office 521 00:34:29,360 --> 00:34:34,800 Speaker 1: telling you? Well, it should be clear from the police 522 00:34:34,800 --> 00:34:39,400 Speaker 1: report that Cleveland police did not speak to one individual 523 00:34:39,440 --> 00:34:45,240 Speaker 1: involved in this case. All the interviewing was done by Westlake. 524 00:34:45,880 --> 00:34:49,560 Speaker 1: The Westlake Police number is four four zero eight seven 525 00:34:49,680 --> 00:34:53,600 Speaker 1: one three three one one repeat four four zero eight 526 00:34:53,680 --> 00:34:57,520 Speaker 1: seven one three three one one Back to Rob Slattery. 527 00:34:57,560 --> 00:35:02,480 Speaker 1: The private investigator hired by kill family was the body 528 00:35:02,600 --> 00:35:07,239 Speaker 1: slamming and the Westlake Police jurisdiction or the Cleveland Police jurisdiction. 529 00:35:07,680 --> 00:35:11,439 Speaker 1: It was in Cleveland, down outside the Archer apartments. And 530 00:35:11,640 --> 00:35:14,799 Speaker 1: where his body was found is that in Westlake or 531 00:35:14,800 --> 00:35:22,040 Speaker 1: Cleveland police jurisdiction? It's Cleveland, all Cleveland. So the body 532 00:35:22,120 --> 00:35:29,640 Speaker 1: slamming and the discovery of Kelub's body all in Cleveland, correct, Guys. 533 00:35:29,719 --> 00:35:34,160 Speaker 1: I want you to hear from the victim himself. This 534 00:35:34,280 --> 00:35:38,120 Speaker 1: is Kellub. He was the best man for his best 535 00:35:38,120 --> 00:35:43,120 Speaker 1: friend's wedding, who the friend gone now into a deep depression. 536 00:35:44,120 --> 00:35:48,360 Speaker 1: Here he is toasting the best man. I'd like to 537 00:35:48,400 --> 00:35:54,080 Speaker 1: say a few quick where's delf of men in Christina. 538 00:35:54,760 --> 00:35:56,760 Speaker 1: It's truly an honor to be a part of this wedding. 539 00:35:57,680 --> 00:36:01,080 Speaker 1: I've known men since we were a kid, and I've 540 00:36:01,080 --> 00:36:06,160 Speaker 1: watched him grow into an exceptional young man. He's truly 541 00:36:06,200 --> 00:36:10,120 Speaker 1: blessed to have found his beautiful bride, Christina. There's no 542 00:36:10,160 --> 00:36:13,920 Speaker 1: one better that two of them are great people and 543 00:36:14,000 --> 00:36:16,919 Speaker 1: have been great friends to me over the years, and 544 00:36:17,760 --> 00:36:20,560 Speaker 1: I know that they will have a wonderful life and 545 00:36:20,640 --> 00:36:24,560 Speaker 1: a beautiful marriage. And so here's the minie Christina, We 546 00:36:24,640 --> 00:36:33,200 Speaker 1: love you. Congratulations. Just hearing his voice and life changes things, 547 00:36:33,280 --> 00:36:38,600 Speaker 1: doesn't it. It was man and Christina that helped lead 548 00:36:38,680 --> 00:36:41,160 Speaker 1: the search for Kellup when he went missing. You heard 549 00:36:41,800 --> 00:36:45,359 Speaker 1: them speaking earlier to a man, to all bride, Kilob's sister. 550 00:36:45,440 --> 00:36:49,760 Speaker 1: When you hear his voice, what do you think, horribly 551 00:36:50,000 --> 00:36:55,600 Speaker 1: trying to hear We wait as justice and falls. Nancy 552 00:36:55,640 --> 00:36:58,320 Speaker 1: Grace Crime Story, signing off good bye friend,