1 00:00:02,400 --> 00:00:07,920 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Audio Studios, podcasts, radio news. Let's get some insights 2 00:00:07,960 --> 00:00:10,720 Speaker 1: out of somebody who knows exactly how the NYPD operates. 3 00:00:10,720 --> 00:00:13,440 Speaker 1: Former Commissioner Ray Kelly joining us right now. He was 4 00:00:13,440 --> 00:00:16,479 Speaker 1: commissioner during the Dinkins administration. He was also a course 5 00:00:16,480 --> 00:00:20,680 Speaker 1: commissioner during the administration of Michael R. Bloomberg, of course, 6 00:00:20,760 --> 00:00:23,680 Speaker 1: who is the majority owner of the company that owns 7 00:00:23,680 --> 00:00:26,639 Speaker 1: the network you're watching right now. Commissioner Kelly, great to 8 00:00:26,680 --> 00:00:29,160 Speaker 1: have you here. Let's just talk about the basic sort 9 00:00:29,160 --> 00:00:32,560 Speaker 1: of security measures that we typically see for these big 10 00:00:32,560 --> 00:00:35,519 Speaker 1: events like the Times Square ball drop, where you have 11 00:00:35,600 --> 00:00:38,320 Speaker 1: to corral hundreds of thousands, of not millions of people 12 00:00:38,560 --> 00:00:41,040 Speaker 1: into one tight area and make sure that all those 13 00:00:41,080 --> 00:00:44,040 Speaker 1: people get in safely and more importantly and get home 14 00:00:44,120 --> 00:00:45,840 Speaker 1: safely as well. 15 00:00:45,920 --> 00:00:48,960 Speaker 2: Right. It's a real challenge, no question that Viuder Bronse 16 00:00:49,000 --> 00:00:53,720 Speaker 2: at NYPG has done it pretty well for many years, 17 00:00:54,200 --> 00:00:57,280 Speaker 2: you know. And there's a core area that in order 18 00:00:57,320 --> 00:00:59,720 Speaker 2: to get there, you've got to enter either on six 19 00:01:00,440 --> 00:01:03,440 Speaker 2: or ath Ava, and that's where anyone going into that 20 00:01:03,640 --> 00:01:07,039 Speaker 2: area will be subject to a search, and say banks 21 00:01:07,040 --> 00:01:10,880 Speaker 2: would be searched, they'll be shifted to magnetomatave searches, that 22 00:01:11,080 --> 00:01:14,160 Speaker 2: that sort of thing. And there's standard things that done 23 00:01:14,200 --> 00:01:18,840 Speaker 2: I've done in the situations for instance, the manhold or 24 00:01:19,319 --> 00:01:23,600 Speaker 2: are sealed, the mailboxes are taking away, those sorts of 25 00:01:23,600 --> 00:01:26,840 Speaker 2: things which are pretty standard. And we say now that 26 00:01:26,840 --> 00:01:31,440 Speaker 2: there's the counter terrorism overlight particularly we started doing that 27 00:01:31,480 --> 00:01:35,200 Speaker 2: when the department started doing that since there adious events 28 00:01:35,240 --> 00:01:40,280 Speaker 2: of nine to eleven. That means more police for specialized units, 29 00:01:40,280 --> 00:01:44,560 Speaker 2: more UH ciphered teams, that that sort of thing, and 30 00:01:44,600 --> 00:01:48,520 Speaker 2: as the committeer said yesterday, there's no credible threats that 31 00:01:48,600 --> 00:01:53,200 Speaker 2: were where she also mentioned that drones will be increased. 32 00:01:53,200 --> 00:01:56,760 Speaker 2: The Apartment has been using drones for the last few years, 33 00:01:56,800 --> 00:01:59,320 Speaker 2: and I think that's it. That's a good thing. So 34 00:01:59,680 --> 00:02:04,960 Speaker 2: a lot of cops, no question about it. It's manpower intensive. 35 00:02:05,080 --> 00:02:07,640 Speaker 2: And I think another thing too to be aware of 36 00:02:08,000 --> 00:02:10,600 Speaker 2: is that in the other four boroughs in New York 37 00:02:10,639 --> 00:02:15,959 Speaker 2: City there are major New Year's Eve events that require 38 00:02:16,000 --> 00:02:22,679 Speaker 2: a significant police presents as well. Well, you've done this before, yeah, 39 00:02:23,000 --> 00:02:23,760 Speaker 2: that way. 40 00:02:23,560 --> 00:02:26,120 Speaker 1: Well, that's a good point. And obviously for our viewers 41 00:02:26,120 --> 00:02:28,400 Speaker 1: outside of New York five boroughs here, obviously the main 42 00:02:28,440 --> 00:02:31,600 Speaker 1: celebration in Manhattan, But as the Commissioner points out, a 43 00:02:31,600 --> 00:02:34,760 Speaker 1: lot of other festivities going on all around the city, 44 00:02:34,880 --> 00:02:37,760 Speaker 1: and I know that keeps the cops busy on a 45 00:02:37,840 --> 00:02:40,919 Speaker 1: day like tonight. Do you sort of in the past, 46 00:02:40,960 --> 00:02:44,720 Speaker 1: do you get sort of get all the cops on 47 00:02:44,919 --> 00:02:47,079 Speaker 1: the clock for a night like this or the majority 48 00:02:47,080 --> 00:02:49,160 Speaker 1: of them if you will, or are you able to 49 00:02:49,240 --> 00:02:52,080 Speaker 1: kind of do with your normal normal allocations that you 50 00:02:52,080 --> 00:02:53,040 Speaker 1: would on a normal day. 51 00:02:53,800 --> 00:02:55,920 Speaker 2: Well, that's the challenge. We have to please the rest 52 00:02:55,960 --> 00:02:59,560 Speaker 2: of the city, and you know, eight point four million 53 00:02:59,600 --> 00:03:02,720 Speaker 2: people of another you want to use. So most of 54 00:03:02,760 --> 00:03:07,079 Speaker 2: the police that you'll see tonight are on overtime. It's 55 00:03:07,120 --> 00:03:10,840 Speaker 2: not on their regular schedule tour of duty. It's an 56 00:03:10,840 --> 00:03:14,280 Speaker 2: expensive proposition, but that's what the department has to do. 57 00:03:14,840 --> 00:03:19,160 Speaker 2: There are some manpower concerns or as people leaving the department. 58 00:03:19,320 --> 00:03:22,800 Speaker 2: So in order to release an event like tonight, do 59 00:03:22,520 --> 00:03:24,919 Speaker 2: you use your event? You're going to have to pay 60 00:03:24,960 --> 00:03:27,919 Speaker 2: a lot of overtime, but the rest of the city 61 00:03:28,000 --> 00:03:29,560 Speaker 2: will be adequately policed. 62 00:03:30,080 --> 00:03:32,360 Speaker 1: I am curious too, just about some of the recent events. 63 00:03:32,360 --> 00:03:34,200 Speaker 1: I mean, obviously there are a lot of security measures 64 00:03:34,200 --> 00:03:36,320 Speaker 1: that are to a certain sense static. I mean you 65 00:03:36,320 --> 00:03:38,360 Speaker 1: can apply them this year, you can apply them ten 66 00:03:38,440 --> 00:03:40,480 Speaker 1: years from now. We've had a couple of incidents in 67 00:03:40,480 --> 00:03:44,080 Speaker 1: New York obviously, with the killing of the United Healthcare Executive, 68 00:03:44,320 --> 00:03:48,600 Speaker 1: you've got a lot of I guess, political differentiation, if 69 00:03:48,640 --> 00:03:50,480 Speaker 1: you will, for lack of a better word, and concerns 70 00:03:50,520 --> 00:03:53,400 Speaker 1: about the security measures needed to protect those folks. How 71 00:03:53,440 --> 00:03:56,880 Speaker 1: does the NYPD adapt kind of these sort of newer 72 00:03:56,920 --> 00:04:00,560 Speaker 1: and more unique challenges that maybe puts me in danger. 73 00:04:01,640 --> 00:04:04,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, there are no guarantees, but there are things that 74 00:04:04,160 --> 00:04:08,600 Speaker 2: you can do. Obviously, you monitor social media closely. Usually, yes, 75 00:04:08,600 --> 00:04:11,240 Speaker 2: there is some sort of political deministration, it's going to 76 00:04:11,360 --> 00:04:17,440 Speaker 2: surface on the internet. We watch certain people's you know, 77 00:04:17,520 --> 00:04:20,920 Speaker 2: people who have a record maybe of disruption and maybe 78 00:04:21,080 --> 00:04:26,599 Speaker 2: have been hinting about coming to the event. We may 79 00:04:26,880 --> 00:04:30,600 Speaker 2: surveil them, not necessarily in person, but denman whether or 80 00:04:30,600 --> 00:04:34,280 Speaker 2: not you've got an analyte tickets. That's sort of thing. So, 81 00:04:34,640 --> 00:04:38,760 Speaker 2: as I say, no guarantees, but the department is doing 82 00:04:38,839 --> 00:04:45,159 Speaker 2: everything that reasonably can be done to protect the city tonight. 83 00:04:45,440 --> 00:04:47,239 Speaker 1: I am curious though, if I can get your thoughts 84 00:04:47,240 --> 00:04:50,720 Speaker 1: about the health of the Department of the NYPD. I mean, 85 00:04:50,760 --> 00:04:53,640 Speaker 1: since Mayor Adams took over three years ago. We've gone 86 00:04:53,680 --> 00:04:56,679 Speaker 1: through well three official commissioners and one acting, so basically 87 00:04:56,680 --> 00:04:59,640 Speaker 1: four people holding that job. The current person who holds 88 00:04:59,640 --> 00:05:01,719 Speaker 1: that just a tish. I believe you probably have some 89 00:05:01,800 --> 00:05:06,200 Speaker 1: familiarity with her, given her experience and counter terrorism back 90 00:05:06,520 --> 00:05:09,680 Speaker 1: in the early and the late arts. Here give us 91 00:05:09,680 --> 00:05:11,880 Speaker 1: a sense here of what you know about her and 92 00:05:11,920 --> 00:05:16,240 Speaker 1: her potential stewardship of the NYPD over the next year 93 00:05:16,279 --> 00:05:19,360 Speaker 1: and maybe beyond, depending on how long she stays. Well. 94 00:05:19,360 --> 00:05:21,240 Speaker 2: I know quite a bit about her. I hired her 95 00:05:21,279 --> 00:05:24,279 Speaker 2: borders of the Police Department and she was there for 96 00:05:24,680 --> 00:05:29,839 Speaker 2: twelve years. She has three degrees from a low degree, 97 00:05:29,960 --> 00:05:35,240 Speaker 2: a business degree, and an undergraduate degree. She did an 98 00:05:35,279 --> 00:05:39,400 Speaker 2: excellent job for me. She run two major New York 99 00:05:39,480 --> 00:05:44,680 Speaker 2: City agencies do it, which is the Department for Technical 100 00:05:44,720 --> 00:05:48,240 Speaker 2: Matters and the Sanitation Department and the reports. So will 101 00:05:48,279 --> 00:05:53,200 Speaker 2: be very very positive. She is a decision maker, she 102 00:05:53,480 --> 00:05:57,520 Speaker 2: very smart, and I think she will do and is 103 00:05:57,560 --> 00:06:00,800 Speaker 2: doing an excellent job. So I think the police Department 104 00:06:00,880 --> 00:06:03,120 Speaker 2: is in good hand absolutely here. 105 00:06:03,240 --> 00:06:06,039 Speaker 1: And it doesn't matter at all this idea that she 106 00:06:06,240 --> 00:06:09,960 Speaker 1: herself wasn't actually a cop herself does that matter to 107 00:06:10,000 --> 00:06:10,720 Speaker 1: the rank and file. 108 00:06:12,400 --> 00:06:14,000 Speaker 2: I don't think so. I think you get over it 109 00:06:14,040 --> 00:06:18,239 Speaker 2: pretty quickly. We've had commissioners who have never been police office. 110 00:06:18,240 --> 00:06:20,760 Speaker 2: As a matter of fact, the majority of police officers 111 00:06:20,760 --> 00:06:23,599 Speaker 2: of police commencers through the history of the department have 112 00:06:23,760 --> 00:06:27,120 Speaker 2: not been been police officers. The concept was always sort 113 00:06:27,120 --> 00:06:31,440 Speaker 2: of a commission who watched the department and manage the department, 114 00:06:31,440 --> 00:06:34,520 Speaker 2: and then it was reduced to more as to Teddy 115 00:06:34,600 --> 00:06:40,200 Speaker 2: Roosevelt was on the commission. So I think she is 116 00:06:40,240 --> 00:06:42,440 Speaker 2: the right choice at the right time. 117 00:06:43,240 --> 00:06:47,159 Speaker 1: It gets your job done, all right, Commissioner Kelly, appreciates 118 00:06:47,160 --> 00:06:49,640 Speaker 1: you taking time for us today, and of course all 119 00:06:49,640 --> 00:06:52,279 Speaker 1: eyes right now focus on Times Square and all those 120 00:06:52,520 --> 00:06:57,279 Speaker 1: NYPD officials hoping to keep everyone safe here for yet 121 00:06:57,480 --> 00:07:02,320 Speaker 1: another New Year's Eve. Commissioner. Former NYPD Commissioner Ray Kelly 122 00:07:02,360 --> 00:07:05,599 Speaker 1: there served briefly under David Dinkins back in the nineties, 123 00:07:05,600 --> 00:07:09,320 Speaker 1: and then did a relatively long stint under Mayor Michael 124 00:07:09,640 --> 00:07:12,040 Speaker 1: Bloomberg back in the two thousands.