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Speaker 1: you have suggested channels to me that have nothing to

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Speaker 1: do with college football, but I've done this so like

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Speaker 1: some of you have. Well, some of you have suggested

432
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Speaker 1: train hopping channels, and yes I already knew about most

433
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Speaker 1: of those. But there are all kinds of different little

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Speaker 1: niches out there. That you never would have thought of

435
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Speaker 1: until you get sucked down the rabbit hole and then

436
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Speaker 1: you realize, Wow, I'm really fascinated by this. And that's

437
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Speaker 1: just one of them exploration videos abandoned buildings. There's a place,

438
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Speaker 1: in fact, a few of them back home in Harris

439
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Speaker 1: County that if I ever start a new channel along

440
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Speaker 1: those lines, I may have to take you inside of

441
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Speaker 1: who Harris County is. There are some corners of Harris

442
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Speaker 1: County not many people have visited, but if you know

443
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Speaker 1: the right ones, it's scary, but it can also be

444
00:20:44,359 --> 00:20:47,520
Speaker 1: entertaining if you show it to a worldwide audience. Good

445
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Speaker 1: question there, though. This is what the lay Kick Extra

446
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Speaker 1: podcast is. It doesn't stick strictly to college football. It

447
00:20:53,119 --> 00:20:57,399
Speaker 1: just sticks loosely to entertainment in college football, with a

448
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Speaker 1: heavy tilt towards college football. All right, let's move along here.

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Speaker 1: I think we're probably going to get it back on

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Speaker 1: track at least somewhat. Next question, Jordan asked, Well, first off,

451
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Speaker 1: he just flat out said, Jordan just demanded, Hey, I

452
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Speaker 1: need more West Coast content. All right, Well, ask the question,

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Speaker 1: and then Jordan did. He said, but the question is

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Speaker 1: what are your thoughts on Oregon and what they're doing.

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Speaker 1: I'm going to hit the second part of what he

456
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Speaker 1: said in a second, but what Oregon's doing right now

457
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Speaker 1: is very interesting. I want to say it was I

458
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Speaker 1: forgot who wrote it, and I apologize because it was

459
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Speaker 1: really good. But there was a feature put out, I believe,

460
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Speaker 1: on ESPN dot com by one of their national writers

461
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Speaker 1: the other day about the approach that Oregon is taking.

462
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Speaker 1: And it probably goes over a lot of people's heads

463
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Speaker 1: right now because you just think, oh, recruiting is recruiting,

464
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Speaker 1: but that's not always true. See some programs out there, well,

465
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Speaker 1: some programs recruit nationally. You know, Ohio State recruits nationally.

466
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Speaker 1: USC under Lincoln Riley, though recruit as national as they

467
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Speaker 1: want to. Other programs do not even go into it

468
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Speaker 1: under the misguided notion that they can recruit nationally and

469
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Speaker 1: so they have to recruit to a specific plan. Northwestern football,

470
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Speaker 1: for example, does not use the same blueprint as Texas football.

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Speaker 1: But then there are a lot of programs who are

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Speaker 1: maybe in the middle. There's a huge chunk of programs

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Speaker 1: actually who are in the middle. Oregon used to be

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Speaker 1: one of those programs in the middle. That shows the

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Speaker 1: developmental strategy. Oregon used to be a program until fairly

476
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Speaker 1: recently that said, we cannot recruit heads up with Alabama

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Speaker 1: or with Miami back in the day, or USC on

478
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Speaker 1: the West coast or Texas, and so what we have

479
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Speaker 1: to do is we have to understand our limitations and

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Speaker 1: not wave a white flag. But we just have to

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Speaker 1: go about it differently. We're gonna get guys that maybe

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Speaker 1: don't have offers to the big programs, and then we're

483
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Speaker 1: gonna have a great developmental strategy. We're gonna have a

484
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Speaker 1: rock solid core set of values and end up being

485
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Speaker 1: traditions up here and we're gonna be a winner. But

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Speaker 1: we're not gonna do it with a much five star talent.

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Speaker 1: That used to be the Oregon way, but it's not anymore.

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Speaker 1: It's not And now Oregan's gotten themselves into the mindset that, no,

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Speaker 1: we're just gonna recruit nationally. We're gonna win with high

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Speaker 1: level talent. We're gonna develop it once it gets here,

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Speaker 1: but we're no longer just a developmental program. Well, here's

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Speaker 1: what's interesting. They just lost one of the best recruiters

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Speaker 1: in the country in Mario Cristobal. That's not the end

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Speaker 1: of the world as long as you replace him with

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Speaker 1: someone who is close to being equal to that caliber. Well,

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Speaker 1: that's where the big million dollar, multimillion dollar question in

497
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Speaker 1: fact enters the room. Is Dan Lanning that person and

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Speaker 1: is the staff he put together? Is is that staff

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Speaker 1: that staff? And are their early returns from the West

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Speaker 1: Coast that some people around the program are very confident

501
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Speaker 1: that Dan Lanning put together the kind of staff just

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Speaker 1: like Mario did at Miami. Quite frankly, it's not getting

503
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Speaker 1: as much buzz because it's it's all the way out

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Speaker 1: on the West Coast. But Dan Lanning knew what he

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Speaker 1: had to do when he just walked in the door,

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Speaker 1: and so he put together a whole lot of guys

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Speaker 1: who know how to recruit. But it's it's kind of

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Speaker 1: a signal, it's kind of a flare that Oregon is

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Speaker 1: sending to the rest of the country because I can

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Speaker 1: tell you a lot of people were interested in watching

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Speaker 1: what Oregon was going to do if and when they

512
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Speaker 1: ever lost Mario Cristobal. Were they going to try and

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Speaker 1: maintain recruiting at a high level in the top ten

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Speaker 1: to fifteen range every cycle or are they going to

515
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Speaker 1: probably dip back down in terms of ranking as they

516
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Speaker 1: redefined and reassessed what their core strategy was. Well, they've

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Speaker 1: chosen and they're going to choose to go get the players.

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Speaker 1: That's what stands out to me. You want to know,

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Speaker 1: we were talking earlier about which spring practices to watch.

520
00:24:14,440 --> 00:24:17,760
Speaker 1: Oregon's another one. Oregon is a very key spring practice

521
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Speaker 1: to watch. And then of course every one of these

522
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Speaker 1: first seasons are going to be important, but I want

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Speaker 1: to see how this pans out. Is Oregon going to

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Speaker 1: be a program that truly can look around and say, no,

525
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Speaker 1: we arrived and we're not giving it back, We're not leaving.

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Speaker 1: So you're seeing their schedule if if you're watching this

527
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Speaker 1: video right now and we're going to put it on YouTube,

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Speaker 1: they open against Georgia and that's going to be just

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Speaker 1: that's saucy, that's delicious. But then they slowly dive into

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Speaker 1: conference play later in September, and you know how the

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Speaker 1: Pac twelve is, you run through the entire thing. It's

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Speaker 1: just going to be really fun to watch because you're

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Speaker 1: looking at it and they don't play USC in the

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Speaker 1: regular season. They go to Oregon State at the end

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Speaker 1: of the year, got Utahn Washington back to back in

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Speaker 1: reverse order. But Oregon, Yeah, that's my thought on that

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Speaker 1: good staff he put together, he being Dan Lanning, and

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Speaker 1: now let's see if they can recruit nationally at the

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Speaker 1: pace that they were now. As for the second part, there,

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Speaker 1: we need more West Coast content. Hey, I'd love to

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Speaker 1: load this thing up with West Coast content. Sometimes I

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Speaker 1: look at the comment section and I see people say,

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Speaker 1: this is an SEC podcast. No, it's not not an

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Speaker 1: SEC podcast at all. I'll sit here and talk about

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Speaker 1: Washington Husky football or Oregon State football all day. You

546
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Speaker 1: got to ask for it, and when we release it,

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Speaker 1: it's got to do at least comparable numbers. It would

548
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Speaker 1: be totally irresponsible for us to get about one sixth

549
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Speaker 1: to traffic for PAC twelve content relative to Big ten

550
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Speaker 1: and SEC content, but still do it proportionate. That would

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Speaker 1: be bad. I mean, I'm gonna give you a little

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Speaker 1: behind the scenes here. We did some USC segments last week,

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Speaker 1: We did some Arkansas segments. Our Arkansas segments did six

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Speaker 1: times the traffic six as the USC segments. So when

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Speaker 1: I structure the show, I just want you to know

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Speaker 1: we're structuring it the way that you have demanded. We

557
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Speaker 1: structure it. You decide how much West Coast I talk about.

558
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Speaker 1: You decide how much Midwest and Big twelve I talk about?

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Speaker 1: You do, not us you do. I love to do

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Speaker 1: a national show, totally national, everyone gets equal coverage. That's

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Speaker 1: how I'd love to do it. You got to demand

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Speaker 1: it and back it up with the numbers that we see.

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Speaker 1: This is, after all, still a business. Moving on, Moving

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Speaker 1: right along, La Longhorn up next, How big of a

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Speaker 1: recruiting shift would there be in a state where there's

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Speaker 1: one Power five school if a second Power five school

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Speaker 1: was added Louisiana, for instance, plenty of schools and talent

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Speaker 1: along I twenty and I ten for that matter. So

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Speaker 1: this is this is an interesting question. I've never had

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Speaker 1: this posed. And then I started to think, well, what

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Speaker 1: states are we talking about now? To me, when we're

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Speaker 1: talking about which states with one Power five team would

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Speaker 1: change if there was another Power five team, well, this

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Speaker 1: is a very small sample size because to me, I

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Speaker 1: don't think we're looking at at you know, Nebras or

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Speaker 1: something like that, because there's not a huge bed of

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Speaker 1: high school talent in Nebraska, especially relative to Louisiana. Okay,

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Speaker 1: So to me, when I was looking around. I couldn't

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Speaker 1: find another one. I couldn't find another state where there's

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Speaker 1: only one Power five program that if we added another

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Speaker 1: one it would divvy up a wealth of high school talent.

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Speaker 1: Couldn't find it. There are states with one Power five program,

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Speaker 1: but they already are are very sparsely populated in terms

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Speaker 1: of high school talent. But I'll tell you what I

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Speaker 1: did find. I found one example that would be interesting

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Speaker 1: if one of the programs was taken away. And I

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Speaker 1: was thinking about South Carolina. So South Carolina has Clemson

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Speaker 1: University and South Carolina, and I was wondering, you know,

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Speaker 1: even though there's not as much talent per capita in

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Speaker 1: South Carolina as there is in Louisiana, there is a

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Speaker 1: lot of end state talent in South Carolina. And I'm

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Speaker 1: really wondering, if Clemson didn't exist, or if South Carolina

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Speaker 1: didn't exist, how much better would the other be. That's

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Speaker 1: the first thing I thought. Then the second thing I

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Speaker 1: thought was, wait a second, the state of Georgia kind

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Speaker 1: of fits this description because even though Georgia Tech also

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Speaker 1: kind of I mean, it's right there, it's like an

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Speaker 1: hour down the road from Georgia, Georgia. Tech and Georgia

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Speaker 1: do not recruit the same player, and there is no

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Speaker 1: other presence. There's no other major recruiting presence in the

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Speaker 1: state of Georgia. So if you really want to know

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Speaker 1: what the closest parallel is to Louisiana and LSU, it's

603
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Speaker 1: Georgia in the State of Georgia. But what they have

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Speaker 1: in Georgia is a lot more transient population than they

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Speaker 1: have in Louisiana. And by that I simply mean a

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Speaker 1: lot of people live in Georgia who didn't grow up

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Speaker 1: in Georgia, especially in Atlanta, they didn't grow up there.

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Speaker 1: A lot of people also live in Louisiana, most of

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Speaker 1: them came from Louisiana. Like I grew up in Columbus, Georgia,

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Speaker 1: which is right next to Fort Benning, which is an

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Speaker 1: army base. Which means every other kid you meet at

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Speaker 1: your school is from Saint Louis or from San Antonio

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Speaker 1: or from Salt Lake City. They're from all over the country,

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Speaker 1: all over the world, really, and there's some kids that

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Speaker 1: are from Columbus mixed in there, but it's a fifty

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Speaker 1: to fifty shot when you walk down the hallway whether

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Speaker 1: you're talking to a kid who even grew up where

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Speaker 1: you're from or not. And it's really that way in Atlanta.

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Speaker 1: And so when Kirby Smart and Georgia recruit their state, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you look at the twenty twenty three and twenty twenty

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Speaker 1: four class rankings and player rankings, and you may see

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Speaker 1: all Georgia's loaded this upcoming cycle. Boy, they got fifteen

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Speaker 1: players rated four or five stars. That's great and it

624
00:29:26,760 --> 00:29:28,680
Speaker 1: does bode well for Georgia. It's not a bad thing.

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Speaker 1: But when you dive into it, you start realizing, oh, man,

626
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Speaker 1: look at all the foreign five star talent that has

627
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Speaker 1: left Georgia over the years, even with Kirby Smart there.

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Speaker 1: It's not because they shirk the responsibility of recruiting the state.

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Speaker 1: It's because a lot of kids didn't grow up thinking, man,

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Speaker 1: I got to play for Georgia. They don't care all

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Speaker 1: that much about Georgia in many cases. And so really

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Speaker 1: I was looking around. I don't know of any other situation.

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Speaker 1: That's why LSU is viewed as one of the best

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Speaker 1: jobs in America. Nick Saban famously, once upon a time

635
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Speaker 1: was at Michigan State and his agent and he did

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Speaker 1: some work when he was offered the LSU job. He's

637
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Speaker 1: talked about this many times, and they realized that per capita,

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Speaker 1: there was more NFL talent in the state of Louisiana

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Speaker 1: than any other state. Again, when you adjust per capita

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Speaker 1: for total population, and you don't have to fight anyone there,

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Speaker 1: and especially back then, the real only thing that changed

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Speaker 1: that perception was when Saban came to Alabama. Saban was

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Speaker 1: one of the first and still really is one of

644
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Speaker 1: the only ones who's ever successfully recruited the state of

645
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Speaker 1: Louisiana at scale without being at LSU. So I don't

646
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Speaker 1: know that there is another example of that, to be

647
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Speaker 1: honest with you, there may be some states where if

648
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Speaker 1: you put a third one in there, it would really

649
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Speaker 1: throw things into the woodship. Or kind of the alternate

650
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Speaker 1: point of view. If there are two power fives in

651
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Speaker 1: a state and you removed one of them, what would

652
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Speaker 1: it look like. That's kind of the South Carolina example.

653
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Speaker 1: Virginia would be another one. I'd be interested to look

654
00:30:52,520 --> 00:30:54,960
Speaker 1: at there. That's an interesting question, though, say what's also

655
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Speaker 1: interesting is how sucked in Sometimes you can get on

656
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Speaker 1: these topics and not even realize it's time to do this.

657
00:31:01,840 --> 00:31:06,720
Speaker 1: We'll be right back. I got to do it sometimes

658
00:31:06,760 --> 00:31:09,080
Speaker 1: to you. I'm very sorry, but I funn'll sneak some

659
00:31:09,120 --> 00:31:11,480
Speaker 1: of those ad breaks up on you. I know your patterns.

660
00:31:11,560 --> 00:31:13,720
Speaker 1: I listen to podcasts too. I know you guys fast

661
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Speaker 1: forward right through it, so I gotta be careful there.

662
00:31:15,480 --> 00:31:16,680
Speaker 1: I got to get you at least five or ten

663
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Speaker 1: seconds in before you realize it. Let's roll on this morning.

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Speaker 1: Got some questions left to get to here. Michael asked,

665
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Speaker 1: why would an NFL playoff for Matt not transfer well

666
00:31:26,720 --> 00:31:30,280
Speaker 1: into college football? Very simple concept here, but there are

667
00:31:30,280 --> 00:31:31,760
Speaker 1: a lot of different schools of thought. A lot of

668
00:31:31,760 --> 00:31:34,280
Speaker 1: people look at the NFL and they see, boy, there

669
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Speaker 1: are more playoff teams in the NFL, and these playoffs

670
00:31:36,880 --> 00:31:39,920
Speaker 1: are exciting. Why wouldn't you want that in college football? Well,

671
00:31:39,920 --> 00:31:42,320
Speaker 1: the answer is simple. If we had thirty two college

672
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Speaker 1: football teams, and college football teams were not entities attached

673
00:31:47,160 --> 00:31:50,960
Speaker 1: to universities, if they were just built solely as football teams,

674
00:31:51,440 --> 00:31:54,120
Speaker 1: and there was a ton of parody and equity based

675
00:31:54,120 --> 00:31:57,400
Speaker 1: approaches to building college football, I'd want an expanded playoff

676
00:31:57,840 --> 00:31:59,800
Speaker 1: because we would probably get something that mirrored what we

677
00:31:59,840 --> 00:32:01,720
Speaker 1: get in the NFL. That is not what we have

678
00:32:02,160 --> 00:32:04,320
Speaker 1: to be clear think about the what is the NFL.

679
00:32:04,720 --> 00:32:07,840
Speaker 1: The NFL stands for National Football League. It is something

680
00:32:07,880 --> 00:32:12,080
Speaker 1: that was solely built to produce professional football to you

681
00:32:12,240 --> 00:32:16,640
Speaker 1: as entertainment. And everything they did about building it was

682
00:32:16,720 --> 00:32:20,560
Speaker 1: built with competitive equity in mind. So no one built

683
00:32:20,560 --> 00:32:23,840
Speaker 1: the NFL to say, let's make sure small market teams

684
00:32:24,080 --> 00:32:27,120
Speaker 1: are disadvantaged relative to major market teams. They did the opposite.

685
00:32:27,120 --> 00:32:29,840
Speaker 1: They built the entire sport because there was nothing else

686
00:32:29,880 --> 00:32:32,040
Speaker 1: they were beholden to, So they built the entire sport

687
00:32:32,480 --> 00:32:36,400
Speaker 1: to be equitable and be completely equal. There's nothing too tall,

688
00:32:36,480 --> 00:32:39,600
Speaker 1: nothing too short. Everything looks very similar from fifty thousand feet,

689
00:32:39,760 --> 00:32:42,240
Speaker 1: so that week to week, anything can happen when you

690
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Speaker 1: have that. I don't really care how big your playoff is,

691
00:32:45,560 --> 00:32:47,800
Speaker 1: because I mean, it's going to be competitive from the

692
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Speaker 1: regular season perspective. And therefore the variance in the very

693
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Speaker 1: good and the good and the kind of good and

694
00:32:54,360 --> 00:32:57,040
Speaker 1: the not so good, it's just it's inches compared to

695
00:32:57,240 --> 00:33:00,560
Speaker 1: feet in yards. In college football, the NFL, it's a

696
00:33:00,560 --> 00:33:04,440
Speaker 1: platform that was built for football. College football was not

697
00:33:04,480 --> 00:33:07,240
Speaker 1: built for football at all. In fact, college football didn't

698
00:33:07,240 --> 00:33:12,280
Speaker 1: even exist. We built universities as entities of higher education,

699
00:33:12,760 --> 00:33:15,680
Speaker 1: and then eventually someone came along and said, how about

700
00:33:15,720 --> 00:33:18,000
Speaker 1: some extra curricular activities to do at these schools, and

701
00:33:18,040 --> 00:33:20,280
Speaker 1: people said okay, and then one of them ended up

702
00:33:20,280 --> 00:33:23,320
Speaker 1: being football. But by the time you started playing football

703
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Speaker 1: at every university, some of them started fifty years before

704
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Speaker 1: the other. Some of them were parked with prestigious names

705
00:33:30,040 --> 00:33:32,640
Speaker 1: attached to them that had very deep pockets. Some of

706
00:33:32,680 --> 00:33:34,800
Speaker 1: them were in portions of the country where it's just

707
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Speaker 1: more conducive to playing that kind of sport outside twenty

708
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Speaker 1: four to seven three sixty five. The point being, there

709
00:33:41,240 --> 00:33:44,440
Speaker 1: was never a prayer that college football as it was

710
00:33:44,440 --> 00:33:47,360
Speaker 1: constructed was going to be equitable and was going to

711
00:33:47,400 --> 00:33:51,080
Speaker 1: be built with competitive balance in mind. It was never

712
00:33:51,120 --> 00:33:53,719
Speaker 1: going to be that way, and it's not today. And

713
00:33:53,880 --> 00:33:56,320
Speaker 1: what aggravates me to no end is listening to and

714
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Speaker 1: watching coverage of our sport where people spend all day,

715
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Speaker 1: every day, seven days a week, saying, how do we

716
00:34:01,840 --> 00:34:03,920
Speaker 1: get balance in this sport. I've got the answer for

717
00:34:04,000 --> 00:34:07,040
Speaker 1: you. You don't stop wasting your time. Move along, go take

718
00:34:07,040 --> 00:34:09,359
Speaker 1: a baking class, move on to something else that could

719
00:34:09,400 --> 00:34:11,600
Speaker 1: actually produce or yield a result for you down the

720
00:34:11,680 --> 00:34:14,480
Speaker 1: road trying to get balance, and this sport's not gonna happen.

721
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Speaker 1: So the question was, why wouldn't that playoff format work? Well,

722
00:34:19,280 --> 00:34:21,839
Speaker 1: it would technically work like they could carry it out.

723
00:34:22,280 --> 00:34:25,640
Speaker 1: It would fundamentally ruin what I love and what many

724
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Speaker 1: people love about this sport. And I would also add this,

725
00:34:28,719 --> 00:34:30,440
Speaker 1: it would ruin it for some of you, and you

726
00:34:30,440 --> 00:34:32,400
Speaker 1: don't realize it would ruin it. You wouldn't realize it

727
00:34:32,440 --> 00:34:34,560
Speaker 1: until it was too late. But the reason that wouldn't

728
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Speaker 1: work out is for what I just said. If you

729
00:34:37,680 --> 00:34:41,319
Speaker 1: took the principles that are applied in order to get

730
00:34:41,360 --> 00:34:43,719
Speaker 1: what we get in the NFL, that means we would

731
00:34:43,800 --> 00:34:47,440
Speaker 1: have to view all division winners as equal, in conference

732
00:34:47,480 --> 00:34:49,520
Speaker 1: winners as equal, if you want to phrase it that way.

733
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Speaker 1: In college football and in the NFL. I'm okay with that,

734
00:34:52,920 --> 00:34:55,560
Speaker 1: because whether you're in the AFC East or the NFC South,

735
00:34:55,920 --> 00:34:58,840
Speaker 1: you have done something that clears enough of a competitive

736
00:34:58,920 --> 00:35:02,600
Speaker 1: hurdle that you you automatically should have an auto bid

737
00:35:02,760 --> 00:35:06,680
Speaker 1: into a playoff. In college football, think about how vast

738
00:35:06,800 --> 00:35:10,040
Speaker 1: the Gulf is any given year between saying I just

739
00:35:10,120 --> 00:35:13,760
Speaker 1: won the SEC versus I just won the PAC twelve

740
00:35:13,840 --> 00:35:17,440
Speaker 1: or I just won the American Athletic Conference. But yet

741
00:35:17,480 --> 00:35:19,279
Speaker 1: I got some folks out there, a lot of y'all

742
00:35:19,800 --> 00:35:22,400
Speaker 1: who watchee watch college football and say, how come we

743
00:35:22,440 --> 00:35:24,200
Speaker 1: can't do it exactly like the NFL does well because

744
00:35:24,200 --> 00:35:26,359
Speaker 1: it's not the NFL. In fact, other than the shape

745
00:35:26,400 --> 00:35:28,520
Speaker 1: of the football and the size of the field, there's

746
00:35:28,560 --> 00:35:32,800
Speaker 1: not much semblance between the NFL product to college football.

747
00:35:33,120 --> 00:35:35,759
Speaker 1: So I have no interest in it. And also, I

748
00:35:35,840 --> 00:35:37,799
Speaker 1: go back to what I've said many times, and I'm

749
00:35:37,840 --> 00:35:41,360
Speaker 1: tired of repeating it. I do. This is me personally

750
00:35:41,360 --> 00:35:43,320
Speaker 1: speaking now, and this is all I can go on,

751
00:35:43,440 --> 00:35:46,120
Speaker 1: is my opinion. I don't watch college football for the

752
00:35:46,160 --> 00:35:48,440
Speaker 1: same reason as I watch the NFL. I watch the

753
00:35:48,560 --> 00:35:52,720
Speaker 1: NFL and always have with one eye towards the playoff,

754
00:35:52,960 --> 00:35:57,080
Speaker 1: and everything is about how this impacts that playoff down

755
00:35:57,080 --> 00:35:58,960
Speaker 1: the road. You always got your eyes cut over there

756
00:35:59,000 --> 00:36:03,520
Speaker 1: towards lateness in early January. That's great, it's a great product.

757
00:36:04,160 --> 00:36:07,080
Speaker 1: It's just that college football doesn't have to be the

758
00:36:07,120 --> 00:36:10,239
Speaker 1: mirror equal of the NFL. I could watch that on

759
00:36:10,239 --> 00:36:12,000
Speaker 1: Sunday and think that way on Sunday and also watch

760
00:36:12,040 --> 00:36:16,160
Speaker 1: the product on Saturday and be completely fine with Week

761
00:36:16,239 --> 00:36:18,799
Speaker 1: three meaning everything in the world. No. I was at

762
00:36:18,800 --> 00:36:22,240
Speaker 1: the Oklahoma Baylor game and Baylor upsets Oklahoma. Baylor storms

763
00:36:22,280 --> 00:36:24,239
Speaker 1: the field, and I remember thinking that day when I

764
00:36:24,239 --> 00:36:26,399
Speaker 1: was flying home that night. You know what was great

765
00:36:26,400 --> 00:36:30,400
Speaker 1: about today is I wasn't really looking as that field

766
00:36:30,520 --> 00:36:33,000
Speaker 1: was being stormed, or as I was in Dave Randa's

767
00:36:33,000 --> 00:36:35,239
Speaker 1: postgame press conference, or we were doing our live hits

768
00:36:35,280 --> 00:36:37,759
Speaker 1: after the game. I wasn't thinking about the playoff. I

769
00:36:37,840 --> 00:36:40,799
Speaker 1: was just thinking about how great this day was to me.

770
00:36:40,840 --> 00:36:42,839
Speaker 1: That's college football, Saturday's in the fall. That's what college

771
00:36:42,880 --> 00:36:45,200
Speaker 1: football has always been about to me. So that's why

772
00:36:45,200 --> 00:36:49,239
Speaker 1: it wouldn't work for me. I know, I know, I

773
00:36:49,400 --> 00:36:52,120
Speaker 1: know a lot of you think, Okay, if you like

774
00:36:52,200 --> 00:36:55,480
Speaker 1: that now, then unexpanded playoff would only give you more

775
00:36:55,520 --> 00:36:58,279
Speaker 1: of that. Know it wouldn't know, it wouldn't because that day,

776
00:36:58,280 --> 00:37:01,480
Speaker 1: for example, in Waco, Oklahoma, would not have walked out

777
00:37:01,520 --> 00:37:06,200
Speaker 1: of there knowing their playoff chances were all but done. Therefore,

778
00:37:06,280 --> 00:37:09,760
Speaker 1: that game wouldn't have been played with that kind of urgency. Therefore,

779
00:37:09,760 --> 00:37:13,640
Speaker 1: it would not have been as must see as it was. Therefore,

780
00:37:13,680 --> 00:37:16,399
Speaker 1: the very fabric of what makes Saturdays in the fall

781
00:37:16,440 --> 00:37:19,120
Speaker 1: what they've always been. Your entire life would be gone.

782
00:37:19,440 --> 00:37:23,320
Speaker 1: You would have sacrificed that for a shot at having

783
00:37:23,719 --> 00:37:25,640
Speaker 1: I don't know, a couple of extra playoff games at

784
00:37:25,640 --> 00:37:27,680
Speaker 1: the end of the year. I've never been about it.

785
00:37:27,680 --> 00:37:29,400
Speaker 1: It's never appealed to me. So that's that's where I

786
00:37:29,440 --> 00:37:33,000
Speaker 1: stand on that. Let's move on playoff talk. Man, it's

787
00:37:33,000 --> 00:37:35,839
Speaker 1: not going anywhere, is it. Hmmm. I'm looking at looking

788
00:37:35,880 --> 00:37:37,279
Speaker 1: at the questions we had about the playoff on my

789
00:37:37,320 --> 00:37:39,920
Speaker 1: screen right now. There's a whole lot of them. Let

790
00:37:39,920 --> 00:37:43,400
Speaker 1: me get this one in here right quick. Michael asked

791
00:37:43,440 --> 00:37:47,000
Speaker 1: me what got you into college football? I'll tell you

792
00:37:47,040 --> 00:37:48,840
Speaker 1: what got me into it. It goes back to the

793
00:37:48,920 --> 00:37:51,359
Speaker 1: question I was just answering from someone else. What got

794
00:37:51,360 --> 00:37:53,640
Speaker 1: me into it? Is when I was growing up. You know,

795
00:37:53,680 --> 00:37:56,800
Speaker 1: I didn't I didn't have a strong family attachment to

796
00:37:56,840 --> 00:37:59,239
Speaker 1: any major university. A lot of my buddies grew up

797
00:37:59,320 --> 00:38:02,040
Speaker 1: in my went to Georgia or you know my mom

798
00:38:02,120 --> 00:38:04,960
Speaker 1: graduated from Florida State. Well, I didn't grow up with

799
00:38:05,000 --> 00:38:07,279
Speaker 1: that necessarily, but I grew up with an attachment because

800
00:38:07,320 --> 00:38:10,239
Speaker 1: in my house we watched college football. But I remember

801
00:38:10,840 --> 00:38:13,200
Speaker 1: when I would watch college football and I would watch

802
00:38:13,280 --> 00:38:16,520
Speaker 1: Major League Baseball, I watched all the sports. I just

803
00:38:16,560 --> 00:38:20,360
Speaker 1: remember how different that sport felt than everything else. And

804
00:38:20,400 --> 00:38:22,520
Speaker 1: it's not that I didn't like the other sports, but

805
00:38:22,640 --> 00:38:26,040
Speaker 1: I developed a love for college football because of its uniqueness,

806
00:38:26,080 --> 00:38:28,960
Speaker 1: and it felt to me as a kid, it felt

807
00:38:28,960 --> 00:38:31,799
Speaker 1: so much more pristine. It felt pure. It felt like

808
00:38:31,840 --> 00:38:35,000
Speaker 1: if you go out in Yellowstone National Park, or if

809
00:38:35,000 --> 00:38:37,520
Speaker 1: you go out in a national forest out in California,

810
00:38:37,719 --> 00:38:41,919
Speaker 1: you feel like you're experiencing something that hasn't been ruined yet,

811
00:38:42,120 --> 00:38:45,759
Speaker 1: you know, and you look around, and the first thing

812
00:38:45,800 --> 00:38:48,200
Speaker 1: you think is, boy, it's a good thing. We've maintained this.

813
00:38:48,360 --> 00:38:51,440
Speaker 1: Let's do everything necessary to maintain this. I always looked

814
00:38:51,440 --> 00:38:54,080
Speaker 1: at college football and said, even as a kid, I

815
00:38:54,080 --> 00:38:55,799
Speaker 1: didn't know how to articulate it, but I looked at

816
00:38:55,840 --> 00:38:59,120
Speaker 1: it and said, there's something that feels a little more

817
00:38:59,120 --> 00:39:02,600
Speaker 1: pristine about that. It just feels more pure. It feels

818
00:39:03,280 --> 00:39:06,839
Speaker 1: like it hasn't been touched by whatever's touched all these

819
00:39:06,880 --> 00:39:09,719
Speaker 1: other sports. It called it commercialism, call it whatever you

820
00:39:09,760 --> 00:39:14,839
Speaker 1: want to. It just felt different, which kind of I

821
00:39:14,880 --> 00:39:18,840
Speaker 1: guess lays a lot of the foundation for the arguments

822
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Speaker 1: I make against fundamentally changing the structure of the sport,

823
00:39:22,360 --> 00:39:24,640
Speaker 1: because that's what I've always loved about it. The first

824
00:39:24,640 --> 00:39:26,680
Speaker 1: time I ever was allowed to stay up past midnight,

825
00:39:27,160 --> 00:39:29,239
Speaker 1: it was to watch a national championship game and then

826
00:39:29,280 --> 00:39:31,480
Speaker 1: the coverage afterwards of the first time I ever went

827
00:39:31,520 --> 00:39:33,640
Speaker 1: to a major sporting event, it was a well, it

828
00:39:33,680 --> 00:39:36,280
Speaker 1: was a Braves game in the nineties. It was Braves

829
00:39:36,280 --> 00:39:39,200
Speaker 1: Mets three to two loss and extra innings County Stadium.

830
00:39:39,440 --> 00:39:42,279
Speaker 1: But besides that, it was a college football game. And

831
00:39:42,320 --> 00:39:45,160
Speaker 1: I remember being on campus see because I went to

832
00:39:45,239 --> 00:39:47,399
Speaker 1: NFL games in the Georgia Dome a few times when

833
00:39:47,400 --> 00:39:49,320
Speaker 1: I was growing up for the Falcons, and I would

834
00:39:49,320 --> 00:39:54,560
Speaker 1: go to all the college campuses, and I remember how

835
00:39:54,600 --> 00:39:57,839
Speaker 1: different it felt, and I remember thinking to myself, that's

836
00:39:57,880 --> 00:40:00,960
Speaker 1: Saturday sport. That's for me. And then you've got bands,

837
00:40:01,480 --> 00:40:04,879
Speaker 1: and you got kids who were in high school one

838
00:40:04,960 --> 00:40:08,560
Speaker 1: year ago, kids who could have been at Harris County

839
00:40:08,600 --> 00:40:11,480
Speaker 1: High School are now playing for Tennessee and they're playing

840
00:40:11,480 --> 00:40:14,440
Speaker 1: for Florida and Georgia. And I always just thought to myself,

841
00:40:15,000 --> 00:40:18,320
Speaker 1: how crazy is it that those kids have been going

842
00:40:18,360 --> 00:40:21,040
Speaker 1: from playing in front of a few hundred people to

843
00:40:21,040 --> 00:40:23,480
Speaker 1: playing in front of a few million people just like

844
00:40:23,520 --> 00:40:26,239
Speaker 1: that over the span of a calendar year. That still

845
00:40:26,239 --> 00:40:27,880
Speaker 1: boggles my mind, to be honest with you. But that

846
00:40:27,920 --> 00:40:31,640
Speaker 1: always boggled my mind back then. The pageantry, the tradition,

847
00:40:32,120 --> 00:40:33,520
Speaker 1: the fact that if I were to go to a

848
00:40:33,560 --> 00:40:37,919
Speaker 1: family reunion at the aforementioned Lake we Dowie Lake House

849
00:40:38,080 --> 00:40:41,640
Speaker 1: in we Dowie, Alabama, I would listen to my uncles

850
00:40:41,719 --> 00:40:44,359
Speaker 1: and my cousins and brother and all that stuff, And well,

851
00:40:44,400 --> 00:40:46,520
Speaker 1: I don't have a brother, my brother in law and

852
00:40:46,560 --> 00:40:49,680
Speaker 1: my dad and everybody. I mean, they're talking about games

853
00:40:49,680 --> 00:40:52,360
Speaker 1: that happened thirty or forty years ago with vivid recollection.

854
00:40:52,880 --> 00:40:55,600
Speaker 1: I just never heard people in pro sports circles talk

855
00:40:55,680 --> 00:40:57,640
Speaker 1: like that. Maybe I didn't grow up around it, Maybe

856
00:40:57,640 --> 00:40:59,560
Speaker 1: that's why. But I grew up in the South, and

857
00:40:59,600 --> 00:41:05,040
Speaker 1: so everybody spoke English to varying degrees, and college football fluently.

858
00:41:05,120 --> 00:41:07,680
Speaker 1: Those were the two languages they spoke. So, Michael, that's

859
00:41:07,680 --> 00:41:09,960
Speaker 1: what got me into it. What got you into it?

860
00:41:10,880 --> 00:41:14,640
Speaker 1: I bet it sounds pretty much the same Dustin Next up,

861
00:41:15,440 --> 00:41:18,240
Speaker 1: he said, is Penn State doing the right thing? Starting

862
00:41:18,280 --> 00:41:21,319
Speaker 1: Sean Clifford instead of handing over the reins to Drew

863
00:41:21,400 --> 00:41:25,719
Speaker 1: Aller Dustin. Now, I'm not going to say that you

864
00:41:26,120 --> 00:41:29,160
Speaker 1: are misguided here as a person, I'm going to say

865
00:41:29,200 --> 00:41:31,480
Speaker 1: the question is a little misguided only cause I'm not

866
00:41:31,480 --> 00:41:36,279
Speaker 1: necessarily sure I understand it. Where did we announce this? Look?

867
00:41:36,320 --> 00:41:38,520
Speaker 1: Where has it been a nount? Shan Clifford starting week one?

868
00:41:39,080 --> 00:41:41,320
Speaker 1: To my recollection or knowledge, we haven't even had a

869
00:41:41,320 --> 00:41:44,840
Speaker 1: spring practice in state college, so we don't even know

870
00:41:44,880 --> 00:41:47,320
Speaker 1: who Drew Holler is. I mean, we know as a person,

871
00:41:47,680 --> 00:41:49,560
Speaker 1: we know as a high school recruit who he is.

872
00:41:49,760 --> 00:41:51,640
Speaker 1: We have no clue who he's going to be as

873
00:41:51,640 --> 00:41:53,719
Speaker 1: a Penn State quarterback. We haven't even seen him go

874
00:41:53,840 --> 00:41:58,640
Speaker 1: through stretch and stride periods in shells in practice one

875
00:41:58,719 --> 00:42:01,239
Speaker 1: of spring one. Yeah, I mean, the fact of the

876
00:42:01,239 --> 00:42:03,320
Speaker 1: matter is if Drew Awler were to come out smoking

877
00:42:03,400 --> 00:42:06,440
Speaker 1: and he just he completely commands the huddle and commands

878
00:42:06,560 --> 00:42:08,320
Speaker 1: the offense and moves him down the field all spring.

879
00:42:08,800 --> 00:42:11,520
Speaker 1: When James Franklin meets with the media after the spring game,

880
00:42:12,120 --> 00:42:13,440
Speaker 1: I don't know what he's gonna say. I'll tell you

881
00:42:13,480 --> 00:42:16,040
Speaker 1: what he's not gonna say. Sean Clifford, starting week one,

882
00:42:16,320 --> 00:42:18,560
Speaker 1: he wouldn't do that. I mean, he wouldn't handcuff himself

883
00:42:18,600 --> 00:42:21,680
Speaker 1: like that. I will tell you this though, Sean Clifford

884
00:42:21,920 --> 00:42:24,800
Speaker 1: has been around a long time, and Sean Clifford knows,

885
00:42:24,840 --> 00:42:27,160
Speaker 1: for better or for worse, the offense and he knows

886
00:42:28,040 --> 00:42:31,239
Speaker 1: he just knows how to manage a game. Now, that

887
00:42:31,320 --> 00:42:33,919
Speaker 1: always sounds like poison to a college football fan because

888
00:42:33,920 --> 00:42:35,319
Speaker 1: you don't want a game managers and you want a

889
00:42:35,320 --> 00:42:38,600
Speaker 1: game winner. Well, here's the thing. When you got the

890
00:42:38,600 --> 00:42:41,359
Speaker 1: physical tools, but you're not prepared from the neck up,

891
00:42:41,400 --> 00:42:43,600
Speaker 1: it can be really ugly. It can be really ugly.

892
00:42:44,280 --> 00:42:47,920
Speaker 1: And unfortunately, until it's too late, a lot of people

893
00:42:47,920 --> 00:42:49,960
Speaker 1: don't want to acknowledge that. You know, a lot of

894
00:42:49,960 --> 00:42:52,640
Speaker 1: fans they want to look at the amount of stars

895
00:42:52,680 --> 00:42:55,319
Speaker 1: next to a kid's name, watch his highlight film, not

896
00:42:55,400 --> 00:42:58,160
Speaker 1: his film, just his highlight film, know what he's capable

897
00:42:58,160 --> 00:43:00,439
Speaker 1: of doing, and they want him rush on the field

898
00:43:00,440 --> 00:43:02,560
Speaker 1: as soon as possible because they know what he can do.

899
00:43:03,280 --> 00:43:06,439
Speaker 1: Can you do it right? Well? Coaches want to know, well,

900
00:43:06,480 --> 00:43:07,799
Speaker 1: can I put you out there and trust that you

901
00:43:07,840 --> 00:43:10,480
Speaker 1: won't do it wrong? And until you get to that point,

902
00:43:10,600 --> 00:43:12,160
Speaker 1: they're going to put the guy out there they trust

903
00:43:12,200 --> 00:43:15,000
Speaker 1: mentally more so, I'm not questioning Drew Aller mentally, I'm

904
00:43:15,040 --> 00:43:17,160
Speaker 1: quite literally telling you we have no clue who he

905
00:43:17,239 --> 00:43:20,000
Speaker 1: is yet. So no, I don't. I think they're doing

906
00:43:20,000 --> 00:43:22,879
Speaker 1: the only thing they can right now, which is let's

907
00:43:22,880 --> 00:43:25,279
Speaker 1: go into spring and have competition. That's all you can

908
00:43:25,320 --> 00:43:29,319
Speaker 1: do right now. Connor, next up, Josh, I think it

909
00:43:29,320 --> 00:43:31,560
Speaker 1: would be interesting to hear your thoughts on Bowl games

910
00:43:31,560 --> 00:43:34,120
Speaker 1: being moved to the start of the season instead of

911
00:43:34,160 --> 00:43:36,680
Speaker 1: the very end. I feel like they would become much

912
00:43:36,680 --> 00:43:40,160
Speaker 1: more important to everyone involved, But then not so sure

913
00:43:40,360 --> 00:43:43,640
Speaker 1: on the right opponent being selected. What kind of format

914
00:43:43,680 --> 00:43:46,719
Speaker 1: should we use? This concept has always been interesting to me.

915
00:43:46,760 --> 00:43:48,399
Speaker 1: A lot of you guys are into this. You think

916
00:43:48,400 --> 00:43:52,600
Speaker 1: to save Bowl season, what you should do is somehow

917
00:43:52,960 --> 00:43:56,440
Speaker 1: take the previous year's results and instead of having bulls

918
00:43:56,440 --> 00:43:59,000
Speaker 1: where they are. I guess what most people would suggest

919
00:43:59,120 --> 00:44:02,640
Speaker 1: is let's have the playoff as we normally would, but

920
00:44:03,120 --> 00:44:06,839
Speaker 1: let's also let the previous year's results dictate who you

921
00:44:06,880 --> 00:44:10,560
Speaker 1: start next season with, so essentially everyone would start with

922
00:44:10,640 --> 00:44:15,760
Speaker 1: a major out of conference opponent. I guess the big question, obviously, is, well, okay,

923
00:44:16,200 --> 00:44:20,279
Speaker 1: let's say that you're a really, really good team what's

924
00:44:20,280 --> 00:44:24,040
Speaker 1: a good example to use. Let's say you're LSU twenty nineteen,

925
00:44:24,080 --> 00:44:26,560
Speaker 1: you know, and you are one of the best teams

926
00:44:26,560 --> 00:44:29,719
Speaker 1: of all time, and so that stands to reason, Yeah,

927
00:44:29,760 --> 00:44:32,000
Speaker 1: you go play for the playoff national championship game. But

928
00:44:32,040 --> 00:44:35,080
Speaker 1: also the format would say you've got to start against

929
00:44:35,120 --> 00:44:36,960
Speaker 1: one of the best teams in the country the next year. Well,

930
00:44:36,960 --> 00:44:39,560
Speaker 1: the problem is you're not twenty nineteen LSU. The next

931
00:44:39,600 --> 00:44:41,960
Speaker 1: year you lost all those guys to the draft, you

932
00:44:42,040 --> 00:44:44,960
Speaker 1: lost all the guys to transfer and whatnot, and so

933
00:44:45,680 --> 00:44:48,359
Speaker 1: you're you're bad and then you got to get beat

934
00:44:48,440 --> 00:44:50,399
Speaker 1: up on in week one. So would that be fair?

935
00:44:51,160 --> 00:44:53,080
Speaker 1: I don't know if that would be fair, But I'm

936
00:44:53,120 --> 00:44:55,560
Speaker 1: not sure anyone would cry inny tears for LSU. But

937
00:44:55,600 --> 00:44:58,960
Speaker 1: at the same time, you know, I'm interested independent of

938
00:44:58,960 --> 00:45:02,440
Speaker 1: whether this is the Bowls structure, I'm just I'm interested

939
00:45:02,440 --> 00:45:05,600
Speaker 1: in this format in general. What if, in other words,

940
00:45:05,640 --> 00:45:08,520
Speaker 1: what if out of conference scheduling was taken out of

941
00:45:08,520 --> 00:45:11,879
Speaker 1: the hands of just you and Utah agreeing to play

942
00:45:11,880 --> 00:45:13,600
Speaker 1: a home and home in twenty thirty six and thirty

943
00:45:13,640 --> 00:45:17,759
Speaker 1: seven and announcing it now, And what if instead your

944
00:45:18,239 --> 00:45:23,440
Speaker 1: opening game was always determined by some pre set list

945
00:45:23,440 --> 00:45:26,720
Speaker 1: of criteria. Maybe it is how you finished the season before.

946
00:45:27,680 --> 00:45:30,120
Speaker 1: I'd be interested in that, you know, because at the

947
00:45:30,200 --> 00:45:34,040
Speaker 1: very least, it would ensure that everyone's playing equal caliber

948
00:45:34,040 --> 00:45:37,000
Speaker 1: of competition or close to it, at least some reputable

949
00:45:37,080 --> 00:45:39,160
Speaker 1: caliber of competition in Week one, and it would make

950
00:45:39,200 --> 00:45:43,400
Speaker 1: Week one total total musty TV for everyone, instead of

951
00:45:43,480 --> 00:45:45,359
Speaker 1: us looking at the schedule and seeing, ooh, there are

952
00:45:45,360 --> 00:45:47,799
Speaker 1: four or five big games and then a bunch of

953
00:45:47,920 --> 00:45:51,920
Speaker 1: SCS programs playing FBS teams. I would be into the concept. Connor,

954
00:45:51,960 --> 00:45:54,560
Speaker 1: I would need a little more workshopping done on what

955
00:45:54,600 --> 00:45:59,000
Speaker 1: the actual format is there. It's a question a lot

956
00:45:59,000 --> 00:46:01,439
Speaker 1: of people ask, and then they all so ask why

957
00:46:01,440 --> 00:46:04,960
Speaker 1: couldn't we just wait till after bowl season to seed

958
00:46:05,040 --> 00:46:08,720
Speaker 1: the playoff in an effort to make bowl season mean something?

959
00:46:08,760 --> 00:46:12,200
Speaker 1: I guess like it used to in theory. The ideas

960
00:46:12,200 --> 00:46:14,040
Speaker 1: have a lot of merit, but the devil would always

961
00:46:14,080 --> 00:46:17,440
Speaker 1: be in the details. There interesting questions there. I think

962
00:46:17,520 --> 00:46:20,120
Speaker 1: that wraps up the ones I had here, and I

963
00:46:20,160 --> 00:46:21,719
Speaker 1: want to say that wraps up the ones we have

964
00:46:21,800 --> 00:46:23,879
Speaker 1: in general. And look, hey, I got an ear pce

965
00:46:23,960 --> 00:46:26,480
Speaker 1: in that I can't hear from so poor Jesse and

966
00:46:26,480 --> 00:46:27,960
Speaker 1: Colin are probably talking to me right now and I

967
00:46:28,000 --> 00:46:30,440
Speaker 1: can't hear him. But look, I do want to float

968
00:46:30,440 --> 00:46:32,359
Speaker 1: this out there to you. I'm leaving this totally in

969
00:46:32,360 --> 00:46:36,560
Speaker 1: your hands. Okay. As I said the other night, I

970
00:46:36,600 --> 00:46:41,120
Speaker 1: am very much entertaining the concept of doing consistent Twitter

971
00:46:41,200 --> 00:46:45,239
Speaker 1: spaces and if you haven't ever participated in one, they're

972
00:46:45,320 --> 00:46:48,200
Speaker 1: really interactive, they're really interesting. I asked the other night,

973
00:46:48,239 --> 00:46:49,759
Speaker 1: I'm going to reiterate it here. I'm going to take

974
00:46:49,760 --> 00:46:53,040
Speaker 1: feedback for about a week. Do you have interest in it?

975
00:46:53,160 --> 00:46:55,279
Speaker 1: And then also if you have interested in it, when

976
00:46:55,320 --> 00:46:57,400
Speaker 1: would you like to do it? Is it something you

977
00:46:57,520 --> 00:46:59,600
Speaker 1: want to do at midnight once a week, or is

978
00:46:59,640 --> 00:47:01,000
Speaker 1: it something and you want to do first thing in

979
00:47:01,040 --> 00:47:04,439
Speaker 1: the morning. When would be the best time? And of course,

980
00:47:04,480 --> 00:47:06,719
Speaker 1: I mean we don't have to nail down one specific time.

981
00:47:06,719 --> 00:47:08,799
Speaker 1: We can do this whenever we want to. Is it

982
00:47:08,800 --> 00:47:11,440
Speaker 1: something you would just like immediately after breaking news events?

983
00:47:11,840 --> 00:47:13,920
Speaker 1: That's not necessarily the way I prefer it. But I

984
00:47:14,040 --> 00:47:16,799
Speaker 1: also I also see these decisions to you, as you know,

985
00:47:17,160 --> 00:47:18,680
Speaker 1: I just want all the credit with none of the blame.

986
00:47:18,880 --> 00:47:20,680
Speaker 1: You know, That's what I want. So it helps to

987
00:47:20,719 --> 00:47:23,200
Speaker 1: put the decision making power in your hands. But you

988
00:47:23,320 --> 00:47:26,480
Speaker 1: never know who'll pop in those things. That's what I'm saying.

989
00:47:26,760 --> 00:47:29,160
Speaker 1: So we have a podcast, it's me sitting here for

990
00:47:29,200 --> 00:47:30,840
Speaker 1: better or for worse, it's me and you. We do

991
00:47:30,880 --> 00:47:32,719
Speaker 1: Late Kick Live. It's me and you again, for better

992
00:47:32,800 --> 00:47:35,160
Speaker 1: or for worse. We keep doing those. But if we

993
00:47:35,200 --> 00:47:38,439
Speaker 1: added a Twitter space every couple times a month on there,

994
00:47:38,719 --> 00:47:41,200
Speaker 1: you never know who's popping in there. You just never know,

995
00:47:41,440 --> 00:47:44,080
Speaker 1: so it'd be surprised us. I can guarantee you that

996
00:47:44,440 --> 00:47:46,759
Speaker 1: and you could be part of that. So just think

997
00:47:46,760 --> 00:47:49,399
Speaker 1: about that. Hit me up Josh paid seven zero six

998
00:47:49,400 --> 00:47:52,040
Speaker 1: at gmail dot com or on Twitter and Instagram at

999
00:47:52,120 --> 00:47:53,960
Speaker 1: Late Kick Josh, and I would encourage you to follow

1000
00:47:54,000 --> 00:47:55,920
Speaker 1: me there either way and let me know what you

1001
00:47:55,960 --> 00:48:00,239
Speaker 1: think about that. In the meantime, I appreciate it so much. Guys,

1002
00:48:00,320 --> 00:48:02,759
Speaker 1: keeping our numbers where they are. Make sure you give

1003
00:48:02,800 --> 00:48:05,600
Speaker 1: five star reviews to the pod on Spotify and on

1004
00:48:06,040 --> 00:48:08,920
Speaker 1: Apple Pods and any kind of review system in setting

1005
00:48:08,960 --> 00:48:10,799
Speaker 1: you have, and go take Grandma's phone and do it

1006
00:48:10,840 --> 00:48:12,919
Speaker 1: on her phone too. It only helps, it helps the cause.

1007
00:48:13,200 --> 00:48:15,959
Speaker 1: So thank you guys so much. For a director Colin,

1008
00:48:16,000 --> 00:48:18,799
Speaker 1: for producer Jesse and producer Jordan. I'm Josh pet have

1009
00:48:18,840 --> 00:48:21,160
Speaker 1: yourselves a great rest of your day and God bless