WEBVTT - Beating The Book: 2024 Week 1 NFL MegaPod Betting Preview

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<v Speaker 1>Check it in Man.

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<v Speaker 2>September third, twenty twenty four, Tuesday morning, September third, twenty

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<v Speaker 2>twenty four. It is the Beating the Book Podcast Gil Alexander.

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<v Speaker 2>Megapod Week one. Typically we will do these on days

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<v Speaker 2>by the way of the given week. As it's week one,

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<v Speaker 2>we decided to go a little earlier. This is I

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<v Speaker 2>always remember. I always forget to look this up. I

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<v Speaker 2>think this is the fourteenth year of the megapod. Fourteen

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<v Speaker 2>podcasts have been around that long, and I don't know

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<v Speaker 2>if you know that at the time when we did

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<v Speaker 2>the first megapod, I think the only sports betting podcast

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<v Speaker 2>that we're around with this one and ESPN's with Chad Millman.

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<v Speaker 2>So happy to be around still doing this for the

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<v Speaker 2>second straight year. Will Hill joined us as one of

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<v Speaker 2>our pillars of the show. He is the host of

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<v Speaker 2>the Should Have Bet More podcast and he's also part

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<v Speaker 2>of the Chris Filika Empire over there at Fox Sports,

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<v Speaker 2>part of the Bear Bets podcast. William or Wilson, I

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<v Speaker 2>should say, Will Hill, everybody, how you.

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<v Speaker 3>Doing, man boys, What's going on?

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<v Speaker 1>It's weird.

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<v Speaker 3>It feels like it took a while to get here.

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<v Speaker 3>It kind of feels like it flew by. It's just

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know. Time is funny in that aspect, but

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<v Speaker 3>should be a lot of fun Fezi's back here for

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<v Speaker 3>Week one. I know he was Week one last year

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<v Speaker 3>and Gil had a good year, so Gilly superstitious, got

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<v Speaker 3>to try to repeat last year.

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<v Speaker 2>That's exactly why we had on week You're on to

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<v Speaker 2>me before we get before we introduce our Rotina guest,

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<v Speaker 2>Todd Wishnev joins us for what is Todd your fourth

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<v Speaker 2>or fifty year doing this? Do you remember?

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, Gilly, I don't know. Am I supposed

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<v Speaker 1>to research all the games? And know how many years

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<v Speaker 1>I've been on here? I mean, it's a lot to ask,

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<v Speaker 1>don't you think? I mean I'm dying over here? I'm

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<v Speaker 1>five thousand pounds. I had a terrible betting summer. But

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<v Speaker 1>before we get into any of that, I want to

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<v Speaker 1>just give the congratulations that is due to two of

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<v Speaker 1>my friends on here. My friend Fezick. If you look

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<v Speaker 1>at his face, it's extremely thin. The guy after our

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<v Speaker 1>weight bet has been keeping the weight off. And even

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<v Speaker 1>though I'm the first one to love to stick it

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<v Speaker 1>to mister arrogance, Stevie Fzick. He does look great and

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<v Speaker 1>deserves kudos. Now, my second congratulations will go out to

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<v Speaker 1>my good friend Gilbert Alexander, who had a thirty five,

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<v Speaker 1>eighteen and one season last year. What does that mean, folks,

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<v Speaker 1>That means fade Gilly this year. There's no way in

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<v Speaker 1>any chance that this guy can do it again. Will

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<v Speaker 1>he just fall back to fifty to fifty like it

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<v Speaker 1>is in most NFL or will he completely shit the bet?

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<v Speaker 1>That will be the question. But anyways, he does deserve

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<v Speaker 1>tremendous kudos. And by the way, our teasers last year

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<v Speaker 1>everyone went thirteen and five, including me, Will and the guest,

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<v Speaker 1>and Gilly went eleven and seven, So our teasers were

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<v Speaker 1>outstanding last year as well. Okay, enough said about the congratulations.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you, Todd. Todd wish to have everybody who who

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<v Speaker 2>I think. I don't know if I can say this

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<v Speaker 2>out loud. Todd, We're going to try to do halftimes

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<v Speaker 2>this year to me and you on Twitter, Twitter Spaces,

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<v Speaker 2>Twitter Space says We're gonna try to do that.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean hopefully, It'll just depend on if I can

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<v Speaker 1>get to a to a quiet enough area.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, for primetime games. We'll see how that works out.

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<v Speaker 2>They already will Will and Todd already introduced our first

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<v Speaker 2>guest of the year. He's the only back to back

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<v Speaker 2>Hilton Super Contest champion. He holds that distinction. He is

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<v Speaker 2>a very kind gentleman in real life. He is a

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<v Speaker 2>raging asshole on Twitter. It's Steve Zig everybody. Stevie.

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<v Speaker 4>Now you swear and beg and kick us that you're

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<v Speaker 4>not a gambling man. Then you find you're back in

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<v Speaker 4>Vegas with a handle in your hand. You go back Jack,

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<v Speaker 4>do it again.

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<v Speaker 5>Let's go Gilly Erry.

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<v Speaker 2>That was a very contemporary reference Stevie, for Steely Dan

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<v Speaker 2>fans out there, not for anybody under the five. Well done, Steve.

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<v Speaker 2>What do you have to Can we just start with this?

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<v Speaker 2>Let'll say what do you have to say for yourself?

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<v Speaker 2>But I but I guess we should start there. Why

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<v Speaker 2>before we get into because by the way, the format

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<v Speaker 2>of this show, and Todd will correct me if I'm wrong.

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<v Speaker 2>Three best bets per week, Teaser of the week, Survivor

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<v Speaker 2>play if people are still alive and Survivor, I guess

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<v Speaker 2>we do a Thursday Night thought. If anybody has anything

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<v Speaker 2>to say about the Thursday Night game. If it's part

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<v Speaker 2>of their best bets or not, and then the final

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<v Speaker 2>two questions which have been tried and true. On this podcast, we.

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<v Speaker 1>Also usually do a little in game segment and sometimes

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<v Speaker 1>also a real tremendous dumb bell of the week if

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<v Speaker 1>there's something that's, you know, out of the ordinary, I've

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<v Speaker 1>got I've already got a dumb bell of the week

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<v Speaker 1>and an in game for you.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh that's right, he does have a dumbbell. Todd's going

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<v Speaker 2>to hijack the podcast momentarily. But Steve, real quick, why

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<v Speaker 2>for the people out there, why do you feel the

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<v Speaker 2>need to be this person on Twitter to point out

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<v Speaker 2>other people's errors and to point out how you would

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<v Speaker 2>never have made such errors?

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<v Speaker 1>Can I take that question? Can I take that question

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<v Speaker 1>for Stevie?

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<v Speaker 2>I wouldn't answer that question.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, it goes back to high school and dungeons and dragons.

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<v Speaker 1>But Stevie, go.

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<v Speaker 4>Ahead, interruptions over six and a half, You're well on

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<v Speaker 4>your way.

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<v Speaker 5>You've already got one here.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm the quote Jeff Spacoli in Fast Times fridgement high

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>Don't I don't know? Good an answer as any Let's okay,

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<v Speaker 2>let's start with this because I know you've been talking

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<v Speaker 2>about this all off season before we get to Todd's

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<v Speaker 2>Dumbo of the week at his innygame, the new kickoff rule.

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<v Speaker 2>You are very resolute in your opinion on this. What

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<v Speaker 2>do your findings tell you?

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<v Speaker 4>Well, I have no findings, but the good coaches are

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<v Speaker 4>going to corkscrew ugly kick it to approximately the goal line.

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<v Speaker 4>So it's like when Gilly and I play tennis. We

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<v Speaker 4>both struggle mightily when there's that ball that it looks

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<v Speaker 4>like it might go in, it might be going out.

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<v Speaker 5>Should I hit it? Should I not hit it?

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<v Speaker 4>I choke, I'll swing at it, and I'll hit it

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<v Speaker 4>in the air, up in the air and hit my

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<v Speaker 4>head with it. This happened in real life just this week.

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<v Speaker 4>So you want to make the kick return or think,

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<v Speaker 4>because that's another task he has to do. Now, if

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<v Speaker 4>you're a conservative coach and you just want to kick

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<v Speaker 4>it out of the end zone, you want to deal

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<v Speaker 4>with it.

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<v Speaker 5>Why not just kick it two yards.

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<v Speaker 4>Into the end zone and let the opponent make a

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<v Speaker 4>mistake and run it out because he won't get back

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<v Speaker 4>more than like to the twenty five. So either kick

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<v Speaker 4>it to the goal line or kick it to the

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<v Speaker 4>two yard line, don't kick it out of the end zone.

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<v Speaker 4>That's the optimal way to go, and that's the way

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<v Speaker 4>every good team it will approach it.

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<v Speaker 2>By week four, Okay, you said it's what twenty the

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<v Speaker 2>average line will be the twenty eight point something?

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, twenty eight point twenty five?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, Does that translate? Is one thing to have that conclusion?

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<v Speaker 2>Does that actually translate to more points? Because from perspective,

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<v Speaker 2>that's really we don't care if it's the twenty eight

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<v Speaker 2>yard line. We just what was the old average points?

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<v Speaker 2>So the old average was what, Steve, do you remember

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<v Speaker 2>twenty twenty five?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, twenty.

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<v Speaker 2>Because because basically where I'm going with that is they

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<v Speaker 2>say it for the average goes from the twenty five.

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<v Speaker 2>If they move the touch back from the twenty five

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<v Speaker 2>to the thirty, it's actually not that big of a

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<v Speaker 2>deal in terms of the output of points. It's when

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<v Speaker 2>they get to the third, when they make the touch

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<v Speaker 2>back the thirty five yard line, that's going to be

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<v Speaker 2>the biggest spike in points.

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<v Speaker 4>You agree with that, yes, So I think sixteen yards

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<v Speaker 4>is probably worth a point on a drive expectation, so

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<v Speaker 4>four yards would be worth a fourth of a point. Now,

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<v Speaker 4>we got to be careful, all right, Although it's worth

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<v Speaker 4>a quarter of a point in positive expectation for me,

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<v Speaker 4>if I'm playing Todd, I can't just cumulate add ten

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<v Speaker 4>kickoffs and say it's worth two and a half points

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<v Speaker 4>because of my drive stalls, I punts and now that

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<v Speaker 4>just hurt the total. That didn't help it that I

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<v Speaker 4>started with better field position. So to say it's worth

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<v Speaker 4>two and a half is an egregious mistake. You probably

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<v Speaker 4>have to divide by more than two. I think it's

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<v Speaker 4>going to increase scoring by a little over one point

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<v Speaker 4>per game.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>Plus, not all yards are created equally. It's easier to

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<v Speaker 1>get yards when you're on your side of the field

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<v Speaker 1>than it is on the other side of the field.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's another big deal, isn't it.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, that's why I said sixteen yards would equate to

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<v Speaker 4>a point. That sixteen yards is when you're on your

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<v Speaker 4>own side of the field and you're not anywhere close

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<v Speaker 4>to scoring.

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<v Speaker 2>Then what and you, Steve, I asked you this on

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<v Speaker 2>a numbers game on the radio side, So for when

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<v Speaker 2>people come back with I think Joe Peda asked this question. Wait,

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<v Speaker 2>why was points down then? Last year, your response.

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<v Speaker 4>Was, well, there can be multiple different factors. I'm only

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<v Speaker 4>saying scoring is going to increase by one point due

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<v Speaker 4>to the kickoffs.

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<v Speaker 5>Scoring could go down for other factors.

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<v Speaker 4>And famously last year the Cover twos and NFL t

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<v Speaker 4>Tame's got really good at not giving up the big play,

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<v Speaker 4>because hey, if you can drive the length of the field, congratulations,

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<v Speaker 4>one holding call and you're donezo, and you still got

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<v Speaker 4>to score in the red zone.

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<v Speaker 5>So avoid the big play at all costs.

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<v Speaker 2>I also think it's the right with the propensity to

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<v Speaker 2>go for fourth downs now unlike it it used to be.

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<v Speaker 2>And if you if you fail to convert deep in

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<v Speaker 2>another team's territory, right that you know, So just going

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<v Speaker 2>for it more and fourth down does not necessarily translate

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<v Speaker 2>to more points. It could actually create longer fields during

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<v Speaker 2>games for missing fourth downs and in plus territory.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, if you have fourth and one from your opponents

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<v Speaker 4>twenty eight and you bet the over, you're like, please God,

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<v Speaker 4>kick the field goal, because if you go for it now,

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<v Speaker 4>you're gonna run another three minutes off on the drive

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<v Speaker 4>and you'd rather just get the bank the three points

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<v Speaker 4>and let's go and start a new drive.

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<v Speaker 2>Exactly, Toddy, your thoughts in game and Dumbo.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, my in game thoughts obviously would don't have National

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<v Speaker 1>Football League to look at. Let me just do the

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<v Speaker 1>Dumbo first, because it's I just this astounds me to know.

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<v Speaker 1>And Brian Kelly, who's generally considered a good coach, he's

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<v Speaker 1>in LSU now doing ozembic and the guy uh with

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<v Speaker 1>two O six And by the way, NFL teams have

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<v Speaker 1>gotten much better at this, much much better at this.

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<v Speaker 1>But the guy at two o six left driving the

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<v Speaker 1>other day in that LSU USC game, you're you want

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<v Speaker 1>to make sure USC has as little time as possible

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<v Speaker 1>to try to score the other way. Now, five years

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<v Speaker 1>ago in the NFL, you used to make this mistake

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<v Speaker 1>all the time. Now they don't. If you notice, in

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<v Speaker 1>the NFL, they won't even be run you hurrying with

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<v Speaker 1>like a minute left because they realize that we don't

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<v Speaker 1>want to give the other team a possession, give them

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<v Speaker 1>a quick three the other way. Of course, I guess

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<v Speaker 1>Brian Kelly never watched an NFL game because with two

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<v Speaker 1>o seven left on first and ten, he runs a

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<v Speaker 1>play instead of going to the two minute warning and

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<v Speaker 1>at least eating into the time below the two minutes.

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<v Speaker 1>Now that the two minute warning college, which by the way,

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<v Speaker 1>is a ridiculous rule. So what I don't understand is

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<v Speaker 1>how you can be paid eight gazillion dollars to be

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<v Speaker 1>the coach of LSU and know there is no advantage

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<v Speaker 1>whatsoever to running a play at two oh six and

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<v Speaker 1>instead letting the clock go down to two. It is

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<v Speaker 1>just unbelievable to me that these guys can continuously make

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<v Speaker 1>And Brian Kelly is a good coach. You wouldn't be

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<v Speaker 1>at LSU if he wasn't a good coach. So that

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<v Speaker 1>just astounds me to no end. That's why the dumb.

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<v Speaker 2>Because, by the way, people should know, we're all on

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<v Speaker 2>a on a text thread together and Todd would not well, well,

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<v Speaker 2>there's another thing that Todd wouldn't stop about. But on

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<v Speaker 2>this particular point, will you actually made it? I think

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<v Speaker 2>a good point, which is Brian Kelly might have been

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<v Speaker 2>trumped immediately by Lincoln Riley. Right.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I'm trying to remember because I was flipping back

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<v Speaker 3>and forth, I think between the baseball so I'm trying

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<v Speaker 3>I remember the sequence.

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<v Speaker 1>You remember in particular, one forty three left, one forty

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<v Speaker 1>three left the clock running. It's now going to be

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<v Speaker 1>fourth down Lincoln, right. They could go ahead and call

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<v Speaker 1>the time out there or let it run to one fifteen.

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<v Speaker 1>What did he do? Well?

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<v Speaker 2>Do he let it? He let it run a one

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<v Speaker 2>to fifteen for no reason?

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, it is.

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<v Speaker 2>It is amazing. It is such a reminder of oh, yes,

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<v Speaker 2>college football's back. These coaches are there. It's just incredible

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<v Speaker 2>how inane they can be on these things.

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<v Speaker 3>The coaches and the broadcasters. Man, the broadcasters are definitely

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<v Speaker 3>down a level, and some of the NFL guys are

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<v Speaker 3>very prehistoric with their views on analytics.

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<v Speaker 5>But the college.

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<v Speaker 3>Guys, it's a whole other level, especially these lower level games.

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<v Speaker 3>You know that the third or fourth game on ESPN

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<v Speaker 3>two at like you ten o'clock at night, you hear

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<v Speaker 3>some very strange commentary the best moment.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, the coaches, it all, it's all the same.

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<v Speaker 4>They it's like Todd, what do you do with a

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<v Speaker 4>seven against a three? Well, I don't know, I'll guests,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, it's it's just what you probably know.

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<v Speaker 5>But the you have to know what to do. And

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<v Speaker 5>if you don't know what to do, butN you got

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<v Speaker 5>one hundred other things to do.

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<v Speaker 4>Why not just pay well hill, Hey, hey, you got

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<v Speaker 4>to call time out here, or you know, hey, you're

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<v Speaker 4>you're up twelve, you got to go for two?

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<v Speaker 5>You know, why leave it up to the coach. The

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<v Speaker 5>coaches a hundred other things to do. It's stupid. Just

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<v Speaker 5>have someone tell you what to do.

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<v Speaker 3>Which Crystabal I think did higher. They said he got

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<v Speaker 3>a time management coach.

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<v Speaker 1>Finally, yes, and that guy is by to Mario. I'll

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<v Speaker 1>talk Chrystabal Chriysta ball got a time management coach to

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<v Speaker 1>explain to him that when the other team has no timeouts,

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<v Speaker 1>there is no reason to run a play because you

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<v Speaker 1>probably need a coach to tell you that. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>you probably haven't been in football your whole life. By

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<v Speaker 1>the way, speaking of which, Bill O'Brien last night did

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<v Speaker 1>something very nice for my under It was it was

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<v Speaker 1>very interesting because they were at the four yard line

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<v Speaker 1>with two minutes left, score twenty eight to thirteen, no

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<v Speaker 1>timeouts left for Florida State, and I was thinking, now,

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<v Speaker 1>is Bill O'Brien, an NFO former NFL coach, going to

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<v Speaker 1>do the NFL thing which is two minutes left and

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<v Speaker 1>the other team has no timeouts? You just take three

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<v Speaker 1>days and the game is over, even at the team's

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<v Speaker 1>four yard line. A lot of these obnoxious coaches, like

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<v Speaker 1>a guy I will bring up right now on in

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<v Speaker 1>game on my little in game segment, don't do that.

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<v Speaker 1>But Bill O'Brien was classy and he took a knee.

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<v Speaker 1>But I just went on my in game segment. One

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<v Speaker 1>quick thing. If you're involved in a Lane Kiffin game

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<v Speaker 1>folks this year, don't think there's going to be any

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<v Speaker 1>running out the clock stuff. They were up fifty two

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<v Speaker 1>to nothing the other day at the half and I

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<v Speaker 1>saw plus seventy nine and a half for Furman. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>I thought to myself, there's no way they're going to

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<v Speaker 1>beat a team eighty to nothing in a college football game.

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<v Speaker 1>They'll be talking about it all week. Well, guess what,

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<v Speaker 1>our boy, Lane Kiffin has it at seventy three to nothing.

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<v Speaker 1>At the end of three, I'm thinking, okay, well, time

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<v Speaker 1>to be classy, Lane, Time to run the ball. Lane.

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<v Speaker 1>He puts in his third string. He's throwing the ball

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<v Speaker 1>all over the field. It's now seventy six nothing. Now

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<v Speaker 1>you're in real danger. Now he puts in his fourth string,

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<v Speaker 1>a white kid who looks like he came from Texas

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<v Speaker 1>Roadhouse grilled busboy area to come in four with string

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<v Speaker 1>and guess what, They're gonna let that guy throw the ball.

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<v Speaker 1>So now it's third and seven at the seventeen yard

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<v Speaker 1>line with like a minute and forty eight to go,

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<v Speaker 1>and he's throwing the ball to try to get it

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<v Speaker 1>in eighty three nothing. Now, congratulations, he didn't do it,

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<v Speaker 1>and we all survived the plus seventy nine and a half.

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<v Speaker 1>But I just be careful, folks. If you're in a

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<v Speaker 1>Lane Kiffin game and it's late, don't bet the under.

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<v Speaker 1>He's gonna try to run it up.

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<v Speaker 4>And I would parlay that over to the Texas Roadhouse.

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<v Speaker 4>If you're still going to Outback Steakhouse, you're you're a

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<v Speaker 4>square of epic proportions. The food is better at Texas

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<v Speaker 4>Roadhouse and it's less expensive.

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<v Speaker 1>By the way, don't go to Texas Roadhouse. By the way,

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<v Speaker 1>I'll tell you why that the roles at Texas Roadhouse

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<v Speaker 1>have crack cocaine in them. I promise you there is

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<v Speaker 1>no doubt in my mind that there is literal crack

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<v Speaker 1>cocaine in the Texas Roadhouse grill roles. Because you cannot

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<v Speaker 1>stop eating them. Oh human can stop beating a Texas roadhouse,

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<v Speaker 1>grill role. I'm just telling you that right now.

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<v Speaker 2>Where's the closest Texas roadhouse to us, Steve out here.

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<v Speaker 4>It's right on Saint Rose, between the m Hotel and

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<v Speaker 4>the Green Valley Ranch Hotel.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh boy, oh boy, I want to stay, Sin, don't

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<v Speaker 1>go there. If you want to stay Sin, don't go there, Stevie.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm telling you it's a mistake.

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<v Speaker 4>No, that's not fair, because the Greg Peterson goes there nightly.

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<v Speaker 5>I think he's a part only.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he loves Texas Roadhouse. He loves it.

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<v Speaker 3>All right, let's do it.

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<v Speaker 2>Week one National Football League, where we just had some

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<v Speaker 2>big news this morning, namely that the San Francisco forty

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<v Speaker 2>nine ers and Trent Williams, their first ballot Hall of

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<v Speaker 2>Fame left tackle, have agreed to terms. Not official yet,

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<v Speaker 2>but looks like it will happen here within twenty four hours.

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<v Speaker 2>And that is large, especially for those of us whose

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<v Speaker 2>instinct it was to play the Jets on Monday night football.

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<v Speaker 2>I know we don't think of offensive linemen as mattering

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<v Speaker 2>to the spread, but god damn if somebody does, it's

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<v Speaker 2>this guy. That's huge for the Niners, who obviously are

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<v Speaker 2>on the heels of resigning Brandon Ayuk, so they are

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<v Speaker 2>in effect running it back on offense, and Trent Williams

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<v Speaker 2>is a massive cog to that wheel. We start with

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<v Speaker 2>our guests with his first best bet. That is you,

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<v Speaker 2>Steve Fezick, what do you got?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, we're not doing Thursday Night thoughts?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, Thursday Night thoughts. I guess we have to start

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<v Speaker 2>with that. It.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, you've been doing the show fourteen years and

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<v Speaker 1>you still don't know the format.

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<v Speaker 2>This may be part of the best bet for somebody,

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<v Speaker 2>or it may not be. Does anybody have with any thoughts

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<v Speaker 2>on that game? Kansas City? What is your consensus line

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<v Speaker 2>right now? Todd, let's have our first consensus discussion. I

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<v Speaker 2>am showing two and a half extra juice, three reduced juice,

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<v Speaker 2>so it's two and a half still counts.

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<v Speaker 1>I guess, I mean, I guess if there's an if

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<v Speaker 1>we feel like it's half the books both ways, you

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<v Speaker 1>can go either way. But see then the problem is

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<v Speaker 1>a guy like Steve will come up and try to

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<v Speaker 1>game the system and not really give any insight. He'll

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<v Speaker 1>just game the system to try to get his record

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<v Speaker 1>looking good. Even though he's just a guest for one week.

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<v Speaker 1>He can't actually think, oh, maybe there's ant there's people

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<v Speaker 1>listening who want some insight about football. But anyways, go on.

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<v Speaker 4>I believe Gils has said this is two point seventy five,

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<v Speaker 4>so we can go lay to and a half or

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<v Speaker 4>take three.

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<v Speaker 5>Am I correctness?

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<v Speaker 1>That's fine?

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<v Speaker 2>This is starting with that. No, we have to have

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<v Speaker 2>a consensus line. We can't. We can't both lay two

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<v Speaker 2>and a half and take three.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and there has to be some kind Yeah, what's

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<v Speaker 1>the lie? I think three. I think the three is

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<v Speaker 1>more prevalent. What do you guys think three is more prevalent?

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<v Speaker 2>If it's three is three three, it is mins three three.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I think money will come on Kansas City. I'm

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<v Speaker 5>passing the game.

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<v Speaker 4>I think if you're going to play it, I would

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<v Speaker 4>go against the Hall of Fame bookmakers over at the

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<v Speaker 4>South Point there they have as two and a half

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<v Speaker 4>lay a dollar ten, so they would be that would

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<v Speaker 4>be where I would play k C. I think Andy

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<v Speaker 4>Reid off of a bye. Obviously this is a pretty

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<v Speaker 4>long buye he's been on. But the concern was, oh,

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<v Speaker 4>the Chiefs, you know, those receivers doesn't look very good.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, I think they're going to be fine.

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<v Speaker 4>I look good in preseason Ravens three new offensive linemen.

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<v Speaker 4>The Ravens defense isn't going to be as good. I

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<v Speaker 4>know there's been a massive adjustment in the points spread

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<v Speaker 4>versus last year.

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<v Speaker 3>I think it's justified.

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<v Speaker 4>Can't say is the better team and their home in

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<v Speaker 4>NFL teams getting the rings. I know that people love

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<v Speaker 4>fading NBA teams getting the rings. That may have worked,

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<v Speaker 4>but it doesn't work in the NFL. Defending champions do

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<v Speaker 4>very well to start this season. I could only look

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<v Speaker 4>to Kansas City. No play for me, though.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a great about The scary thing about the Steelers

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<v Speaker 2>is scary being obviously a scary thing about the Chiefs,

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<v Speaker 2>I should say, is what you were talking about with

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<v Speaker 2>wide receivers last year. Their rate of drops was off

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<v Speaker 2>the charts. Chiefs receivers, including Kelsey and the running backs,

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<v Speaker 2>dropped thirty five passes in their Super Bowl winning in

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<v Speaker 2>last year, the most in the NFL. Other sources, by

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<v Speaker 2>the way, placed the drop total at forty four. Pro

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<v Speaker 2>Football Reference had at forty four. Sports Info Solutions had

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<v Speaker 2>it at thirty nine. You get the idea wide receivers

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<v Speaker 2>fumbled nine times. Of course, everybody remembers the Mahomes to

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<v Speaker 2>Kelsey to Tony hook and lateral for a game winning

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<v Speaker 2>touchdown against the Bills that was called back into illegal formation.

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<v Speaker 2>So that really is the scary thing about the Chiefs,

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<v Speaker 2>like that all went against them last year, and yet

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<v Speaker 2>they still won.

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<v Speaker 1>The Labordi truth we didn't. Taylor Swift also drop a

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<v Speaker 1>plate of nachos that should count as well as well.

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<v Speaker 3>Any played will I don't know, Yeah, I mean I

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<v Speaker 3>think Kansas City wins, and I think the point I

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<v Speaker 3>made on the VSENT Morning Show with Lombardi is what

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<v Speaker 3>what Steve just said about, Hey, Andy Reid, not off

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<v Speaker 3>of a bye but buy same thing extra time to prep.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm just curious what fest thinks. I'm a little bit

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<v Speaker 3>surprised he likes Kansas City because last time the Ravens

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<v Speaker 3>played a game, it was against the Chiefs AFC title

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<v Speaker 3>game and the Ravens.

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<v Speaker 5>Were laying five.

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<v Speaker 3>Now they're getting three. I know, different venues and some changeover,

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<v Speaker 3>but you think as an eight point line movement from

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<v Speaker 3>the last game is justified.

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<v Speaker 4>Here, to quote the great Richie Bulger, who unfortunately passed away.

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<v Speaker 4>He was a long standing member of the Tuesday group.

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<v Speaker 4>When someone make a point like that, well he would

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<v Speaker 4>say that was last year. The Ravens were the better

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<v Speaker 4>team last year. There is nothing to make us think

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<v Speaker 4>that they're better this year, as evidenced by look at

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<v Speaker 4>that season win number Kansas City despite a tough schedule,

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<v Speaker 4>eleven and a half, and they're cutting in line to

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<v Speaker 4>bet Baltimore under eleven right now.

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<v Speaker 5>Last I looked down to ten and a half.

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<v Speaker 1>It will was that its venue?

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<v Speaker 3>No, No, that was in Baltimore. But still eight points.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean homefield is a point and a half, two points,

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<v Speaker 3>it's it's still a bit of an adjustment. I mean again,

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<v Speaker 3>I can't say it's just interesting.

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<v Speaker 1>No, it's fourth. If you make it two points, it's

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<v Speaker 1>four points for the for the but you're still your

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<v Speaker 1>point is still valid. Four points is a lot.

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<v Speaker 2>You're saying you, yeah, thank god you're here, Todd to

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<v Speaker 2>correct us on things that everybody knows about, like Will Well, you.

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<v Speaker 1>Know, people don't know. Will knows it, but the the

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<v Speaker 1>what's it called? People don't know it. When they hear

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<v Speaker 1>eight points, they think, wow, that's a tremendous amount. It's

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<v Speaker 1>not really I'm going to ask.

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<v Speaker 4>You, guys at home field, I'd say under to one

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<v Speaker 4>point eight would you if you if you have to

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<v Speaker 4>go over under two? Well, well says one and a half, right,

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<v Speaker 4>so he goes under.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean it varies home field to home field, but obviously,

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<v Speaker 3>but I'd say under.

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<v Speaker 2>I do worry that everybody. I do worry that everybody's

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<v Speaker 2>on Kansas City like that. That troubles me a little

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<v Speaker 2>that there are very few people that I have heard

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<v Speaker 2>anyway in my little world. Let's say they like Baltimore

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<v Speaker 2>in this game, which seems like a lot of very

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<v Speaker 2>What's that. It's John Harball, right.

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<v Speaker 1>John Harbaugh. This is this is this is John Harball

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<v Speaker 1>lives for being the underdog in a big money game.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like the San Francisco game last year. We've seen

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<v Speaker 1>him like eight million times have like Eyler Huntley playing quarterback,

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<v Speaker 1>He's plus seven somewhere, nobody gives him a damn shot

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<v Speaker 1>in the history of football, and somehow he pulls it

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<v Speaker 1>out of his ass. So this is a John Harbaugh

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<v Speaker 1>situation if there ever was one, in my opinion.

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<v Speaker 2>By the way, little personal note, my ex wife's sister's

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<v Speaker 2>son who I had affected. I had affect him. His

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<v Speaker 2>uncle Gil. He is on. He was on the Boss.

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<v Speaker 2>He was on the Baltimore Ravens practice squad last year

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<v Speaker 2>and this year he was set to be the number

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<v Speaker 2>three running back with Keithon Mitchell shelved for now. He

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<v Speaker 2>was set to be the number three running back behind

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<v Speaker 2>Derrick Henry and Justice Hill. And then he goes and

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<v Speaker 2>breaks his foot in the final preseason game, so it

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<v Speaker 2>was like huge heartbreak for us. He ends up getting

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<v Speaker 2>put on season long ir, which is kind of bullshitty

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<v Speaker 2>quite frankly, my words, not his, because he would be

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<v Speaker 2>healthy in like six weeks. So he they're going to

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<v Speaker 2>have to make a decision on him in six weeks.

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<v Speaker 2>Will they keep them on season long I r to

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<v Speaker 2>kind of stash him from other teams, or will they

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<v Speaker 2>release him and let him go to another team. So

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not sure what's gonna happen. But anyway, that's the

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<v Speaker 2>saga of my guy. Oh and right, but these are

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<v Speaker 2>the these are the NFL stories you don't hear about,

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<v Speaker 2>where guys on the fringe just get absolutely and and

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<v Speaker 2>then here here walks in a fifth round draft pick

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<v Speaker 2>that they drafted to get a to get the number

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<v Speaker 2>three running back spot, who he absolutely outplayed in the preseason.

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<v Speaker 2>The guy on the kid only played a half a

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<v Speaker 2>half a football the fifth round draft pick in the

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<v Speaker 2>in the preseason anyway, So these are the the little

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<v Speaker 2>football stories that exist that we rarely talk about. So

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<v Speaker 2>that was I mean, I sidetracked the whole conversation, but

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<v Speaker 2>it was sad for us. Anyway.

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<v Speaker 1>You guys read that article, by the way, in that

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<v Speaker 1>same vein, did you read that article I sent you

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<v Speaker 1>about the backup quarterback Browning for for uh? I? Did you? You?

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<v Speaker 1>You guys were all like that article because it kind

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<v Speaker 1>of talks about exactly what you're talking about here, like

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<v Speaker 1>life of a guy who's on the edge in the

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<v Speaker 1>NFL and like what happens to him and stuff, and

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<v Speaker 1>you know what, you know, it's just very interesting if

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<v Speaker 1>you if you like that stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and it's also stacked for the draftees right versus

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<v Speaker 2>the undrafted free agents like a whole I got to

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<v Speaker 2>read that article. That's interesting. Jake Browning played great last

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<v Speaker 2>year for the Bengals, and I guess from the outside talk,

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<v Speaker 2>I haven't I haven't read the article, but it seems

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<v Speaker 2>like he was content being a backup in Cincinnati. Yes, no,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>You got to you got to read the article. It's

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<v Speaker 1>a very interesting article.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, okay, cool? What was it in? By the way,

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<v Speaker 2>For those who don't get in.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's an ESPN plus just search you know,

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<v Speaker 1>Jake Browning and Bengals article ESPN. I'm sure you'll find it.

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<v Speaker 1>But it's like a it's like a real long article

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<v Speaker 1>be giving the whole background of his career and what

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<v Speaker 1>happened in his burrow and blah blah blah. It's very interesting.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, Week one, best bet, Stevie, we start with you.

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<v Speaker 2>What do you got? So?

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<v Speaker 4>I want to avoid rookie quarterbacks week one, especially on

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<v Speaker 4>the road, but my numbers align me on several of them.

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<v Speaker 5>So let's start with Gil. You're Washington. What are they

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<v Speaker 5>calling themselves? The commanders?

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<v Speaker 2>Is that their name is Servia something like that?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, the commodes?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>Get give me Washington plus the three and a half,

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<v Speaker 4>I make it three. Who is Tampa Bay to be

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<v Speaker 4>laying three more than three?

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<v Speaker 1>Opening? Slow? Your role, Stevie? Is that the line? Gilly?

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<v Speaker 1>And will please tell me that there's not way more

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<v Speaker 1>than three and a half already, Steve, he's trying to

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<v Speaker 1>game the system. Guys, I think it's three, not three

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<v Speaker 1>and a half. What do you guys say it's three?

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<v Speaker 1>It's absolutely three.

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<v Speaker 4>That's interesting because I looked at Bookmaker, Circa and Westgate.

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<v Speaker 4>So my first three books were three and a half.

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<v Speaker 5>So A South.

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<v Speaker 1>Point, Makers in three and a half. That's the only

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<v Speaker 1>one minus one.

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<v Speaker 2>Makers and a half.

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<v Speaker 1>Everyone else three.

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<v Speaker 2>Well three. Let me look at some others here. Maybe

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<v Speaker 2>I should go to the Vegas.

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<v Speaker 5>It's fine, Todd wants to make a three. I'll pass.

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<v Speaker 1>Let me move on.

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<v Speaker 4>I'll take the I'll take another rookie quarterback. Give me

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<v Speaker 4>the Denver Broncos for my first selection.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't make it three, Stevie. I didn't make it three.

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<v Speaker 1>I sent it to our steamed panel, Willie and Gilly

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<v Speaker 1>because you always have to be kept on your toes

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<v Speaker 1>due to your fact and you're pensioned for trying to

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<v Speaker 1>cut corners and optimize mistakes. Son't going to allow it here.

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<v Speaker 4>I have a fiduccherry responsibility to the listeners to get

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<v Speaker 4>the best winning investment advice that I can.

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<v Speaker 5>You said, it's three.

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<v Speaker 4>That's fine, we're gonna get you know what, Denver Broncos

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<v Speaker 4>plus six. Here is a rookie quarterback that people are

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<v Speaker 4>very concerned about, got lots of reps in preseason, and

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<v Speaker 4>Nicks the I test says he's absolutely ready to go.

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<v Speaker 4>I know a lot of steam on Seattle season win

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<v Speaker 4>went up from seven a half to eight. Denver season

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<v Speaker 4>win went up from from five and a half to six.

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<v Speaker 4>These are not two teams that have a big separation

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<v Speaker 4>in my power rating. I make the game four and

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<v Speaker 4>alf give me the Broncos plus the six.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow, Denver Broncos and bone Knicks plus the points from Stevie.

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<v Speaker 2>Started out Todd, wishev your first best bet?

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<v Speaker 1>I'd just like to give the annual. We are doing

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<v Speaker 1>fiduciary responsibilities here, So I'll do a fiduciary responsibility and say, please, folks,

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<v Speaker 1>if you watch the preseason, just let it all drain

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<v Speaker 1>out of your head. That's not football. Nobody's really trying

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<v Speaker 1>on defense. There are no schemes to trick people, there

0:28:35.160 --> 0:28:37.119
<v Speaker 1>are no good plays. No one's going to show you

0:28:37.200 --> 0:28:42.320
<v Speaker 1>anything good. So please don't overreact to preseason. And the

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<v Speaker 1>reason I'm thinking that is because I saw bon Nix

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<v Speaker 1>do all kinds of great stuff in the preseason. He

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't playing against NFL defenses. The real defenses will come

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<v Speaker 1>in Week one where they go into the defensive coordinator room,

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<v Speaker 1>you know the room, or the you know, defensive line room,

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<v Speaker 1>or the defensive back room, and they'll come up with

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<v Speaker 1>all kinds of schemes to trick the ship out of

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<v Speaker 1>these quarterbacks. So be careful. There's my fiduciary responsibility. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>gonna go with my.

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<v Speaker 2>I've been ranting. I've been ranting about the room thing

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<v Speaker 2>all summer, Like all of a sudden, everybody calls it

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<v Speaker 2>a running back room or a wide receiver room or

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<v Speaker 2>a quarterback room.

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<v Speaker 1>To the room. I'll tell you a room we should

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<v Speaker 1>go to anyways, you know, like, for instance, Experiment Rhino.

0:29:33.360 --> 0:29:36.560
<v Speaker 1>They have a real good bay I know what you mean,

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<v Speaker 1>speaking of which I haven't been one of those Champagne

0:29:43.640 --> 0:29:47.480
<v Speaker 1>that's right, the Champagne room. They've got some real skills. Anyways,

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<v Speaker 1>I would like to go with my first pick. Has

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<v Speaker 1>there ever been a team that needed a Harbaugh to

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<v Speaker 1>coach it? Then a team that has been snake bitten

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<v Speaker 1>for years of football. If they get inside the five

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<v Speaker 1>to win the game in the last two minutes, they

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<v Speaker 1>find a way to lose. They mess up the two

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<v Speaker 1>point conversion. They they we call them the Chargers for

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<v Speaker 1>a reason. Every game goes to the end and they

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<v Speaker 1>always screw it up and they find a way to

0:30:16.520 --> 0:30:20.440
<v Speaker 1>snatch defeat from the jaws of victory. Has ever a

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<v Speaker 1>franchise needed a Harbaugh to come in there and dot

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<v Speaker 1>all the i's, cross all the t's, and stop with

0:30:28.360 --> 0:30:32.320
<v Speaker 1>the nonsensical losses if games you should have won and

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<v Speaker 1>had the talent to win, I am saying that mister Harbaugh. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>by the way, there may be some scandal going on

0:30:39.800 --> 0:30:42.680
<v Speaker 1>about his former place of employment. I don't know. Maybe

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<v Speaker 1>he's got the FBI working for him down in in

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<v Speaker 1>in San Diego or LA wherever they play those games.

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<v Speaker 1>I want the LA Chargers minus. Tell me the point spread, please,

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<v Speaker 1>because I don't want to be you know, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, pulling a Stevie here. Tell me the point

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<v Speaker 1>spread please on the Charger game. Is it three?

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<v Speaker 5>The Chargers are minus three? Minus three? Is the number?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah? Minus three?

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<v Speaker 1>Ok?

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<v Speaker 2>Minus three?

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<v Speaker 1>Give me the Chargers minus the three against Antonio Pierce

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<v Speaker 1>and the bad decision making Mark Davis. Has there ever

0:31:17.800 --> 0:31:22.880
<v Speaker 1>been a lower upgrade from father to son? From Al Davis,

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<v Speaker 1>one of the brilliant brainiacts of the NFL to Mark Davis,

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<v Speaker 1>one of the dumbest WNBA owners of all time? Has

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<v Speaker 1>there ever been such a drop in ownership? Give me yes,

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<v Speaker 1>the Chargers with all the talent all the years now. Granted,

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<v Speaker 1>I know they lost Keenan Allen. I know they lost

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<v Speaker 1>a bunch of guys. But here's the thing. NFL head

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<v Speaker 1>coach is important. Antonio Pierce versus Harbaugh. Give me Harbaugh

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<v Speaker 1>minus the three to change the culture in Charger Land

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<v Speaker 1>minus three Chargers.

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<v Speaker 2>The Cook family to Daniel Snyder.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's their.

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<v Speaker 4>Good luck with that planter fasci itis for your quarterback,

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<v Speaker 4>unable to practice properly with the new skill position players.

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<v Speaker 4>And by the way, what percentage of the fans are

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<v Speaker 4>going to be rooting for the Raiders in LA?

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<v Speaker 5>Eight percent?

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<v Speaker 1>Who's the coach is going to be the coach?

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<v Speaker 2>Let's ship talk all of Todd's picks all year. I

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<v Speaker 2>think that's the way.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't care.

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<v Speaker 3>Your question was from father to sonwhere is to drop off?

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<v Speaker 3>I would say George to Halsteiinbrenner and doctor Jerry bust

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<v Speaker 3>A Genie Buss both both come.

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<v Speaker 1>To mind good calls.

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<v Speaker 3>Willy will Hill, all right, I'm up.

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<v Speaker 2>Will the host of these should have been more podcast everybody,

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<v Speaker 2>which again I don't know if I've said this on

0:32:38.560 --> 0:32:40.240
<v Speaker 2>this podcast yet, but I stay on the radio side

0:32:40.240 --> 0:32:42.400
<v Speaker 2>all the time. Will and I had a conversation. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know if you know this. Will was like, hey,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going to start a new podcast. I'm like, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>what are you going to call it? And Will is like, well,

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<v Speaker 2>I want to call it the I regret deeply that

0:32:53.600 --> 0:32:56.960
<v Speaker 2>I did not wager more on this previous sporting event

0:32:57.160 --> 0:33:01.440
<v Speaker 2>that I ended up winning money on. I'm consumed with regret.

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<v Speaker 2>And I said, I don't call it that, call it

0:33:03.520 --> 0:33:05.120
<v Speaker 2>shit a bit more. And He's like, oh yeah, good,

0:33:05.280 --> 0:33:07.320
<v Speaker 2>good example, good a good idea. That's where we get

0:33:07.320 --> 0:33:09.360
<v Speaker 2>That's how we got a true story right now.

0:33:10.120 --> 0:33:12.520
<v Speaker 3>Forever Grateful really trimmed that up nicely.

0:33:12.960 --> 0:33:14.880
<v Speaker 2>Well, you're very well christiated.

0:33:16.000 --> 0:33:18.080
<v Speaker 3>My first pick, I will go with a total. I

0:33:18.080 --> 0:33:21.160
<v Speaker 3>will go under forty two Steelers Falcons. I've got two

0:33:21.200 --> 0:33:24.560
<v Speaker 3>defensive conservative coaches. I've got an older quarterback and Cousins

0:33:24.560 --> 0:33:27.160
<v Speaker 3>who hasn't played since he heard his achilles against a

0:33:27.160 --> 0:33:29.760
<v Speaker 3>pretty good pass us for Pittsburgh. And again, these are

0:33:29.800 --> 0:33:33.000
<v Speaker 3>two coaches. Hey, it's fourth and two around midfield. Most coaches,

0:33:33.040 --> 0:33:34.239
<v Speaker 3>most teams are going to go for it.

0:33:34.280 --> 0:33:34.440
<v Speaker 2>Now.

0:33:34.520 --> 0:33:36.360
<v Speaker 3>I'm not sure if either one of these guys is

0:33:36.400 --> 0:33:39.160
<v Speaker 3>going to Russell Wilson will protect the ball, but I

0:33:39.200 --> 0:33:40.800
<v Speaker 3>don't know how much he's going to move the ball.

0:33:41.320 --> 0:33:42.960
<v Speaker 5>To me, this is like a I.

0:33:42.920 --> 0:33:46.800
<v Speaker 3>Don't know twenty one twenty twenty to seventeen ugly game

0:33:47.160 --> 0:33:50.720
<v Speaker 3>field position field goals. I will go under forty two

0:33:50.920 --> 0:33:55.719
<v Speaker 3>Steelers and the Falcons. Steelers offense, and Todd mentioned it

0:33:56.040 --> 0:34:00.480
<v Speaker 3>in the preseason defenses are different. Well, if if preseasons

0:34:00.480 --> 0:34:03.800
<v Speaker 3>any indication, even against vanilla defenses, Russell Wilson couldn't move

0:34:03.840 --> 0:34:05.239
<v Speaker 3>the ball. Field could move the ball a little bit

0:34:05.240 --> 0:34:07.800
<v Speaker 3>by running, But offensive line didn't look great. They look

0:34:07.880 --> 0:34:10.239
<v Speaker 3>like it looks like they need another receiver. Pittsburgh, they

0:34:10.239 --> 0:34:12.680
<v Speaker 3>are gonna be bad on offense. I will go under

0:34:12.680 --> 0:34:13.160
<v Speaker 3>forty two.

0:34:13.080 --> 0:34:18.120
<v Speaker 2>Here, Okay, totals and sides by the way allowed in

0:34:18.200 --> 0:34:22.560
<v Speaker 2>our best bets, not team totals invariably will get somebody

0:34:22.560 --> 0:34:23.920
<v Speaker 2>who will be a guess and be like, hey, can

0:34:23.960 --> 0:34:27.040
<v Speaker 2>I do team totals? And Todd will immediately curse them out.

0:34:27.280 --> 0:34:29.239
<v Speaker 3>Who tried to do like a two team money line

0:34:29.280 --> 0:34:31.120
<v Speaker 3>parlay last year for one of their plays?

0:34:31.120 --> 0:34:33.000
<v Speaker 1>Who was that? I can't somebody try?

0:34:33.920 --> 0:34:34.399
<v Speaker 2>That's right?

0:34:35.080 --> 0:34:35.200
<v Speaker 1>Uh?

0:34:35.440 --> 0:34:37.840
<v Speaker 2>Todd? Thank god Todd Wishnev is here. He is the

0:34:37.880 --> 0:34:41.160
<v Speaker 2>court stenographer. He is also the security for the podcast

0:34:41.160 --> 0:34:41.640
<v Speaker 2>as well.

0:34:41.880 --> 0:34:44.839
<v Speaker 1>You want me on that wall, you need me on

0:34:44.920 --> 0:34:48.800
<v Speaker 1>that wall. Who's gonna save him? Lieutenant Alexander?

0:34:50.520 --> 0:34:51.320
<v Speaker 2>I think it was Kelly.

0:34:51.360 --> 0:34:52.680
<v Speaker 3>Was Kelly on the podcast last year?

0:34:52.680 --> 0:34:53.399
<v Speaker 1>It might have been Kelly.

0:34:54.480 --> 0:34:59.560
<v Speaker 2>Maybe Kelly dreaded. My first best bet is the Arizona

0:34:59.680 --> 0:35:04.000
<v Speaker 2>card plus the six. You're showing six there, Toddy, six

0:35:05.400 --> 0:35:10.479
<v Speaker 2>six the United States Football points. You could have gotten

0:35:10.520 --> 0:35:12.520
<v Speaker 2>this at higher earlier in the summer. I'm still taking

0:35:12.520 --> 0:35:15.000
<v Speaker 2>the six. I think anything six and above is good here.

0:35:15.680 --> 0:35:17.359
<v Speaker 2>I'm not as high. I mean, part of this has

0:35:17.400 --> 0:35:21.040
<v Speaker 2>to correlate with your pre flop opinions on teams. We'll

0:35:21.080 --> 0:35:23.160
<v Speaker 2>obviously learn more once we see them hit the field,

0:35:23.200 --> 0:35:25.520
<v Speaker 2>but I am not high on the Buffalo Bills. I

0:35:25.520 --> 0:35:28.680
<v Speaker 2>think they're missing the playoffs. I think the Stefan Diggs

0:35:28.760 --> 0:35:32.400
<v Speaker 2>absence is actually fairly large in terms of spreading the field.

0:35:32.840 --> 0:35:35.920
<v Speaker 2>The advanced stats back that up. Their answer to losing

0:35:35.960 --> 0:35:39.359
<v Speaker 2>Stefan Diggs was to get Marquez Valdez scantling to us

0:35:39.360 --> 0:35:42.680
<v Speaker 2>spread the field. No one's really scared about that. So

0:35:43.120 --> 0:35:45.600
<v Speaker 2>Josh Allen has had so much success going underneath to

0:35:45.640 --> 0:35:49.520
<v Speaker 2>the Dawson Knoxes and the Daltonkin Caids of the world.

0:35:50.239 --> 0:35:52.720
<v Speaker 2>That's gonna be a little tougher now with wide receivers

0:35:52.760 --> 0:35:55.279
<v Speaker 2>that will not be able to spread the field. Josh

0:35:55.320 --> 0:35:57.400
<v Speaker 2>Allen's gonna have to do a lot single handedly, and

0:35:57.440 --> 0:35:59.840
<v Speaker 2>he's capable. For sure. They're not gonna stink, but I

0:36:00.000 --> 0:36:01.840
<v Speaker 2>don't think they're a playoff team. And if you're giving

0:36:01.880 --> 0:36:05.040
<v Speaker 2>me points, I think week one the instinct should be

0:36:05.080 --> 0:36:07.200
<v Speaker 2>to take as many points in any of these games

0:36:07.200 --> 0:36:08.880
<v Speaker 2>as you possibly could have. And this is one that

0:36:09.320 --> 0:36:12.480
<v Speaker 2>falls in line with that. And Kyler Murray when quarterbacking

0:36:12.480 --> 0:36:16.840
<v Speaker 2>the Arizona Cardinals, they do not suck when he is

0:36:16.920 --> 0:36:18.680
<v Speaker 2>healthy and ready to play. So I'm taking the Cardinals.

0:36:18.719 --> 0:36:22.359
<v Speaker 2>Plus six is play number one for me. We snake here, right,

0:36:22.400 --> 0:36:23.320
<v Speaker 2>I get a second one.

0:36:24.160 --> 0:36:26.160
<v Speaker 3>Go ahead, absolutely, okay, your podcast.

0:36:26.560 --> 0:36:30.000
<v Speaker 2>This is not a display fiduciary responsibility, Stevie, So don't

0:36:30.040 --> 0:36:33.360
<v Speaker 2>go crazy when I say this. We're doing this Tuesday morning.

0:36:33.680 --> 0:36:37.279
<v Speaker 2>The Trent Williams signing did happen? The Jets plus the

0:36:37.320 --> 0:36:39.520
<v Speaker 2>points I already have in pocket at plus four and

0:36:39.560 --> 0:36:41.319
<v Speaker 2>a half. What is it right now, Todd four?

0:36:42.520 --> 0:36:44.480
<v Speaker 1>I see it mostly fours?

0:36:45.480 --> 0:36:49.279
<v Speaker 2>Okay, Stevie pointed out this morning, and he's absolutely right.

0:36:49.600 --> 0:36:52.240
<v Speaker 2>This line is only going to get better for the Jets,

0:36:52.360 --> 0:36:54.279
<v Speaker 2>right The money is going to pour in on the

0:36:54.360 --> 0:36:56.839
<v Speaker 2>Niners here. It could get up, I don't know, could

0:36:56.920 --> 0:36:59.200
<v Speaker 2>go back to six where it was before you had

0:36:59.200 --> 0:37:01.240
<v Speaker 2>all the brand and I you can Trent Williams drama.

0:37:01.239 --> 0:37:05.239
<v Speaker 2>We'll see. So I'm on the Jets. I'm going to

0:37:05.320 --> 0:37:07.800
<v Speaker 2>give the Jets out here again at plus four, knowing

0:37:07.880 --> 0:37:11.280
<v Speaker 2>completely that by the time this game happens on Monday

0:37:11.360 --> 0:37:14.000
<v Speaker 2>night it could be bigger. So just as that as

0:37:14.000 --> 0:37:15.799
<v Speaker 2>a disclaimer, But I'm going to take the Jets plus

0:37:15.800 --> 0:37:18.840
<v Speaker 2>four because that's actually right around the bet that I have.

0:37:19.440 --> 0:37:21.359
<v Speaker 2>I think the Jets are going to be great this year.

0:37:22.239 --> 0:37:24.600
<v Speaker 2>As someone who has ruptured not one but two Achilles

0:37:24.880 --> 0:37:28.200
<v Speaker 2>and as someone who railed against hack doctors on the

0:37:28.239 --> 0:37:30.800
<v Speaker 2>internet last year saying, oh, Aaron Rodgers is right, he

0:37:30.840 --> 0:37:33.840
<v Speaker 2>can come back this year, meaning last year I was

0:37:33.920 --> 0:37:36.520
<v Speaker 2>calling them out. But I'm the first person to say

0:37:36.960 --> 0:37:39.160
<v Speaker 2>he'll be fine this year. He's had a whole offseason.

0:37:39.239 --> 0:37:41.120
<v Speaker 2>Same thing with Kirk Cousins. They've had a whole offseason

0:37:41.120 --> 0:37:43.640
<v Speaker 2>to rehab. They'll be all right. If you can get

0:37:43.680 --> 0:37:47.600
<v Speaker 2>any modicum of quarterback play for the Jets, you're gonna

0:37:47.600 --> 0:37:50.640
<v Speaker 2>be fine, because that defense was fantastic last year and

0:37:50.680 --> 0:37:52.960
<v Speaker 2>their quarterbacking sucked so they had to be on a

0:37:53.000 --> 0:37:56.600
<v Speaker 2>field more. But yet the Williams brothers and Sauce really

0:37:56.880 --> 0:37:59.400
<v Speaker 2>like great players on every level of that defense. I

0:37:59.440 --> 0:38:03.040
<v Speaker 2>think Brees Hall and Garrett Wilson are gonna have fantastic

0:38:03.080 --> 0:38:06.160
<v Speaker 2>seasons on offense, as great as the Niners are, and

0:38:06.200 --> 0:38:08.080
<v Speaker 2>as great as they are with Trent Williams. If you're

0:38:08.120 --> 0:38:10.080
<v Speaker 2>giving me more than a field goal and it is four,

0:38:10.760 --> 0:38:13.239
<v Speaker 2>I'm taking the Jets. And if again, if you want

0:38:13.239 --> 0:38:14.959
<v Speaker 2>the Jets, if you believe in what I'm talking about,

0:38:15.040 --> 0:38:17.080
<v Speaker 2>I would wait to even play it to see if

0:38:17.080 --> 0:38:18.560
<v Speaker 2>it gets even larger by the end of the week.

0:38:18.600 --> 0:38:21.160
<v Speaker 2>So the Jets are play number two. Although I'm not

0:38:21.239 --> 0:38:26.000
<v Speaker 2>exhibiting fiduciary responsibility, pardon me, Willie.

0:38:28.080 --> 0:38:30.320
<v Speaker 3>Minnesota Vikings minus silence.

0:38:30.360 --> 0:38:33.400
<v Speaker 2>By the way, from you guys, I appreciate that stunts.

0:38:33.480 --> 0:38:39.240
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I'm just defense. See.

0:38:41.440 --> 0:38:44.040
<v Speaker 3>By the way, Steve Fezik Cash is a big favorite

0:38:44.040 --> 0:38:45.400
<v Speaker 3>to be the only person to try to steal an

0:38:45.400 --> 0:38:47.040
<v Speaker 3>extra half a point in the first round. So cash

0:38:47.080 --> 0:38:50.240
<v Speaker 3>your tickets on that one. I'm gonna go Minnesota.

0:38:50.560 --> 0:38:53.279
<v Speaker 1>Point that was off the board. It was minus four

0:38:53.320 --> 0:38:54.440
<v Speaker 1>thousand in those places.

0:38:56.719 --> 0:38:58.560
<v Speaker 3>I just uh, I'll go Minnesota. I think they got

0:38:58.600 --> 0:39:00.520
<v Speaker 3>a much better roster than the Giants. Have a pretty

0:39:00.560 --> 0:39:02.160
<v Speaker 3>good coaching table. I think a really good coach. They

0:39:02.160 --> 0:39:04.080
<v Speaker 3>have neighbors. Looks like he's going to be a tremendous receiver.

0:39:04.600 --> 0:39:07.040
<v Speaker 3>They don't have much else. Vikings have a good coaching staff.

0:39:07.200 --> 0:39:09.120
<v Speaker 3>I don't love the quarterback obviously in Darnold, but good

0:39:09.120 --> 0:39:10.759
<v Speaker 3>players on both sides of the ball. And I don't

0:39:10.800 --> 0:39:14.520
<v Speaker 3>like Daniel Jones under pressure and Flores likes the blitz

0:39:14.600 --> 0:39:17.600
<v Speaker 3>as much as anybody, and with a shaky offensive line,

0:39:17.760 --> 0:39:20.560
<v Speaker 3>all the blitz packages of Brian Flores, I think at

0:39:20.600 --> 0:39:23.279
<v Speaker 3>his turnovers waiting to happen for Jones. Not much of

0:39:23.320 --> 0:39:25.160
<v Speaker 3>a home field here for the Giants. I will go

0:39:25.239 --> 0:39:27.960
<v Speaker 3>Minnesota Vikings minus a point and a half. And if

0:39:27.960 --> 0:39:29.840
<v Speaker 3>you look at that schedule, they they better win this

0:39:29.880 --> 0:39:31.560
<v Speaker 3>one because it gets pretty tough after that.

0:39:33.000 --> 0:39:37.319
<v Speaker 2>Homer Will's a point. By the way, the last, the

0:39:37.400 --> 0:39:40.040
<v Speaker 2>last winless thing. Felika pointed this out too. If the

0:39:40.120 --> 0:39:44.040
<v Speaker 2>Giants lose this, oh boy, they may not win. For

0:39:44.440 --> 0:39:45.680
<v Speaker 2>they may not win for a while.

0:39:47.800 --> 0:39:50.280
<v Speaker 1>Giants almost like you. And if I come to Vegas

0:39:50.280 --> 0:39:53.080
<v Speaker 1>this weekend and we all play tennis, Gilly and Stevie

0:39:53.120 --> 0:39:54.720
<v Speaker 1>may not win for a while.

0:39:55.880 --> 0:39:58.080
<v Speaker 2>This is big news in our personal lives, Todd wishing

0:39:58.120 --> 0:39:59.360
<v Speaker 2>it for the first time. And how long has it

0:39:59.360 --> 0:40:01.800
<v Speaker 2>been since you've been here? Two years? Three years?

0:40:02.080 --> 0:40:05.400
<v Speaker 1>No, No, it's been about eight nine months. We watched

0:40:05.400 --> 0:40:09.080
<v Speaker 1>the Christmas Games together when remember we watched the Christmas

0:40:09.080 --> 0:40:11.279
<v Speaker 1>Game together when when the Chiefs and the Raiders, the

0:40:11.360 --> 0:40:14.200
<v Speaker 1>Raiders destroyed the Chiefs and then the Chiefs went on

0:40:14.239 --> 0:40:16.520
<v Speaker 1>to win the Super Bowl. By the way, I have

0:40:16.560 --> 0:40:19.040
<v Speaker 1>a folio credit too, so we can we can go

0:40:19.080 --> 0:40:22.239
<v Speaker 1>to some nice dinners. But you know, Stevie's gonna like

0:40:22.520 --> 0:40:24.680
<v Speaker 1>order like the most ridiculous thing of all time. But

0:40:24.719 --> 0:40:28.080
<v Speaker 1>it won't matter because we've got the folio folio.

0:40:28.200 --> 0:40:30.160
<v Speaker 2>Baby, what is that Caesar's folio?

0:40:31.200 --> 0:40:36.560
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you get, you get, you get like a bunch

0:40:36.600 --> 0:40:46.520
<v Speaker 1>of you know, food credits and stuff. Anyway, my second

0:40:46.560 --> 0:40:48.759
<v Speaker 1>pick is gonna I'm gonna go to that same football

0:40:48.800 --> 0:40:52.960
<v Speaker 1>game that my friend Will the Thrill Hill just called,

0:40:53.520 --> 0:40:55.680
<v Speaker 1>And I'm gonna go to that Minnesota Vikings game. And

0:40:55.719 --> 0:40:58.240
<v Speaker 1>guess what I'm gonna do. I'm gonna go under thunder.

0:40:58.440 --> 0:41:01.520
<v Speaker 1>What is the forty one or forty one and a half?

0:41:01.920 --> 0:41:04.200
<v Speaker 1>I think forty one probably is more fair.

0:41:04.000 --> 0:41:06.799
<v Speaker 5>But forty one and a half? God?

0:41:07.600 --> 0:41:09.160
<v Speaker 1>Is it forty one and a half? Yeah?

0:41:10.400 --> 0:41:11.680
<v Speaker 3>Almost all forty one and a half.

0:41:12.760 --> 0:41:15.880
<v Speaker 1>Okay, so under forty one and a half in the

0:41:16.160 --> 0:41:21.840
<v Speaker 1>NYG versus the M I N N I see Donald

0:41:21.920 --> 0:41:25.120
<v Speaker 1>as the quarterback. Now, if we last time we visited

0:41:25.160 --> 0:41:28.520
<v Speaker 1>miss the Vikings, when they didn't have Kirk Cousins at quarterback,

0:41:28.560 --> 0:41:31.920
<v Speaker 1>they started, they had Dobbs, they had some other garbage

0:41:31.960 --> 0:41:34.640
<v Speaker 1>can quarterback. They had a lot of guys that were

0:41:34.640 --> 0:41:37.360
<v Speaker 1>not really moving the ball. I remember a game against

0:41:37.360 --> 0:41:39.720
<v Speaker 1>the Bears. I believe they scored three points or something.

0:41:40.440 --> 0:41:43.799
<v Speaker 1>They Donald. I don't know. I don't see a lot

0:41:43.840 --> 0:41:45.600
<v Speaker 1>of points. Now they're gonna start going on the road

0:41:45.640 --> 0:41:47.960
<v Speaker 1>and all of a sudden, Sam Donald's gonna start throwing

0:41:48.000 --> 0:41:50.439
<v Speaker 1>up a zillion points. I've never been a Sam Donald fan.

0:41:50.680 --> 0:41:53.320
<v Speaker 1>I hated him at USC, I hated him at every

0:41:53.400 --> 0:41:55.760
<v Speaker 1>place he ever played for in the National Football League.

0:41:55.840 --> 0:41:57.960
<v Speaker 1>I don't think he's good. He might win the game.

0:41:58.000 --> 0:42:00.399
<v Speaker 1>I'm not arguing with Willy on that, but I don't

0:42:00.440 --> 0:42:02.640
<v Speaker 1>think he's going to put up a lot of points

0:42:02.960 --> 0:42:06.240
<v Speaker 1>on the road against the Giants. Now, on the Giants

0:42:06.280 --> 0:42:10.000
<v Speaker 1>side of the ball, the Giants lost, and we all

0:42:10.000 --> 0:42:13.720
<v Speaker 1>know running backs are not worth anything. I believe Saquon Barkley.

0:42:14.000 --> 0:42:18.080
<v Speaker 1>There is the exception. Saquon Barkley was worth a lot

0:42:18.239 --> 0:42:21.120
<v Speaker 1>when he was on the Giants. He also fumbled inside

0:42:21.120 --> 0:42:22.800
<v Speaker 1>the five yard line to cost me two bets. But

0:42:23.880 --> 0:42:27.160
<v Speaker 1>Saquon Barkley was important for the Giants and now he's gone.

0:42:27.280 --> 0:42:30.880
<v Speaker 1>So now you're talking about the Giants without Saquon Barkley

0:42:31.160 --> 0:42:35.080
<v Speaker 1>and with that same moribund offense that is ridiculous. Every

0:42:35.120 --> 0:42:38.600
<v Speaker 1>single year, we can all watch Daniel Jones running down

0:42:38.600 --> 0:42:40.440
<v Speaker 1>the field with nothing in front of him and the

0:42:40.480 --> 0:42:43.480
<v Speaker 1>grass trips him up. You know, I don't see the

0:42:43.520 --> 0:42:46.239
<v Speaker 1>Giants scoring a ton of points here either. Give me

0:42:46.320 --> 0:42:49.880
<v Speaker 1>the under forty one and a half New York Giants

0:42:49.920 --> 0:42:54.320
<v Speaker 1>against the minis and we win. At nineteen seventeen, Willie

0:42:54.360 --> 0:42:56.560
<v Speaker 1>gets off to a one and oh and I get

0:42:56.560 --> 0:43:00.560
<v Speaker 1>off to a one and oh wow, all.

0:43:00.560 --> 0:43:02.359
<v Speaker 2>Right, stevee you got two.

0:43:03.680 --> 0:43:05.960
<v Speaker 4>I would be remiss before I go to my next

0:43:05.960 --> 0:43:09.000
<v Speaker 4>two picks to mention Todd is a seventh star member.

0:43:09.239 --> 0:43:12.200
<v Speaker 4>There are card matching in Vegas. That means, Todd, you

0:43:12.239 --> 0:43:14.600
<v Speaker 4>go to the win, they'll see your seven star. They'll

0:43:14.600 --> 0:43:16.960
<v Speaker 4>make you a win black. You can play golf for free.

0:43:17.000 --> 0:43:19.440
<v Speaker 4>That's a sixteen hundred dollars comp at the win and

0:43:19.560 --> 0:43:22.640
<v Speaker 4>font Blue will match you and you'll become a purple

0:43:22.719 --> 0:43:24.879
<v Speaker 4>or whatever they call it, which gives you two hundred

0:43:24.880 --> 0:43:26.320
<v Speaker 4>dollars and a free spot and a two hundred and

0:43:26.320 --> 0:43:28.600
<v Speaker 4>fifty dollars free dinner at font Blue.

0:43:28.640 --> 0:43:31.839
<v Speaker 1>So do I look van, Steve? Do I look like

0:43:31.960 --> 0:43:37.000
<v Speaker 1>a man who could withstand even four holes at this weight?

0:43:37.480 --> 0:43:39.640
<v Speaker 1>At the win in five hundred degree weather?

0:43:40.280 --> 0:43:42.360
<v Speaker 5>Hey don't check IDs, so Gilly and I can go

0:43:42.400 --> 0:43:43.879
<v Speaker 5>and play. Thank you, Tod.

0:43:44.160 --> 0:43:47.239
<v Speaker 2>Yes, thank you, Todd. Let's do it.

0:43:48.200 --> 0:43:48.600
<v Speaker 1>Let's go.

0:43:49.200 --> 0:43:51.120
<v Speaker 4>I'm sure Todd will have a problem with this, but

0:43:51.400 --> 0:43:53.719
<v Speaker 4>since all of you are you know, you get the

0:43:53.760 --> 0:43:57.880
<v Speaker 4>aggregators plays, you know that I too am on Pittsburgh Atlantic.

0:43:57.880 --> 0:44:00.120
<v Speaker 5>Can I go under? Can I make the same play?

0:44:00.200 --> 0:44:03.400
<v Speaker 5>Because that is my best, my famous of course?

0:44:04.880 --> 0:44:07.759
<v Speaker 4>And you know, well pretty much you know laid out

0:44:07.760 --> 0:44:10.040
<v Speaker 4>all the reasons and just the eye test. When you're

0:44:10.040 --> 0:44:13.640
<v Speaker 4>watching Russell Wilson, he is an understream because he's a quarterback.

0:44:13.800 --> 0:44:15.200
<v Speaker 4>I don't think he's got I think he's going to

0:44:15.239 --> 0:44:16.719
<v Speaker 4>be careful with the ball. He doesn't want to get

0:44:16.760 --> 0:44:19.799
<v Speaker 4>bench too early this year, and he's totally washed.

0:44:19.840 --> 0:44:22.280
<v Speaker 5>He can't do anything, and the Steelers.

0:44:21.840 --> 0:44:24.040
<v Speaker 4>Are just going to hand it off to Nausey and

0:44:24.200 --> 0:44:28.040
<v Speaker 4>to Warren who might play. So I see this as

0:44:28.120 --> 0:44:32.120
<v Speaker 4>like three to three middle of the second quarter. Atlanta

0:44:32.160 --> 0:44:36.360
<v Speaker 4>hasn't had any their cousins, hasn't any playtime in preseason.

0:44:36.400 --> 0:44:39.239
<v Speaker 5>He'll be rusty. So under the forty two? Do I

0:44:39.239 --> 0:44:40.120
<v Speaker 5>still get forty two?

0:44:40.120 --> 0:44:40.279
<v Speaker 1>Tod?

0:44:40.320 --> 0:44:42.000
<v Speaker 5>Do you want to give me a lesser number? I

0:44:42.000 --> 0:44:43.000
<v Speaker 5>get the same number as well.

0:44:44.280 --> 0:44:47.680
<v Speaker 1>You know you don't have to go after the people

0:44:47.760 --> 0:44:51.360
<v Speaker 1>who are trying to keep law and order on the show.

0:44:51.840 --> 0:44:53.759
<v Speaker 1>I mean, if I don't do it, somebody else has

0:44:53.840 --> 0:44:55.640
<v Speaker 1>to do it, and that's fine. You can have your

0:44:55.680 --> 0:44:58.000
<v Speaker 1>forty two. What do you think, Stevie of the first

0:44:58.080 --> 0:45:01.520
<v Speaker 1>quarter in the Steelers Falcons game. I'm gonna guess you're

0:45:01.560 --> 0:45:04.400
<v Speaker 1>gonna like the under, would.

0:45:04.280 --> 0:45:05.160
<v Speaker 5>Like under seven and a half.

0:45:05.239 --> 0:45:08.520
<v Speaker 4>I'm sure it's I just if you can get an

0:45:08.520 --> 0:45:10.880
<v Speaker 4>eight and a half. Tom One has been known to

0:45:10.960 --> 0:45:14.279
<v Speaker 4>go for two, no reason at all.

0:45:14.560 --> 0:45:16.640
<v Speaker 2>No reason whatsoever. That's right.

0:45:16.960 --> 0:45:18.560
<v Speaker 4>So normally seven and a half, eight and a half

0:45:18.680 --> 0:45:20.440
<v Speaker 4>or the same thing, and nine and a half. This

0:45:20.520 --> 0:45:24.399
<v Speaker 4>is the one time, all things being equal, you might

0:45:24.560 --> 0:45:26.200
<v Speaker 4>want to get the eight and a half just in

0:45:26.280 --> 0:45:28.560
<v Speaker 4>case they go Florida State on you and decide to

0:45:28.600 --> 0:45:30.799
<v Speaker 4>go for two to start off the season with the

0:45:30.840 --> 0:45:32.440
<v Speaker 4>bang should they score touchdown.

0:45:33.640 --> 0:45:36.120
<v Speaker 1>I actually saw Tom one more stars.

0:45:35.840 --> 0:45:37.759
<v Speaker 2>More here, Steven, and he said he.

0:45:37.719 --> 0:45:39.799
<v Speaker 1>Said he's not going He's not going to go for two.

0:45:40.080 --> 0:45:41.919
<v Speaker 1>I didn't actually see it, but my friend's my friend

0:45:42.000 --> 0:45:44.239
<v Speaker 1>does Sean season all the time on Forbes walking with

0:45:44.280 --> 0:45:47.680
<v Speaker 1>his wife. He literally lives like like four blocks away

0:45:48.160 --> 0:45:50.759
<v Speaker 1>and a half a block from where the where that

0:45:50.880 --> 0:45:54.239
<v Speaker 1>terrible synagogue shooting was five years ago. He lives right

0:45:54.280 --> 0:45:56.759
<v Speaker 1>over there, so you know he's in the neighborhood all time.

0:45:57.520 --> 0:46:00.399
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he went with the Montagogue after him, a bunch

0:46:00.400 --> 0:46:04.640
<v Speaker 2>of Steelers. That was the enormous thing about that whole

0:46:04.640 --> 0:46:07.160
<v Speaker 2>incident was how many of the Pittsburgh Steelers and other

0:46:07.200 --> 0:46:12.200
<v Speaker 2>sports folks showed up. I loved Pittsburgh after that. I

0:46:12.200 --> 0:46:14.719
<v Speaker 2>didn't know it was so diverse. First of all, Yeah,

0:46:15.440 --> 0:46:17.279
<v Speaker 2>were you scoring Hill Todd?

0:46:17.800 --> 0:46:20.319
<v Speaker 1>Yes, Squirrel Hill, Squirrel Hill.

0:46:20.480 --> 0:46:21.200
<v Speaker 2>Okay, steee.

0:46:21.440 --> 0:46:23.280
<v Speaker 3>By the way, I'm very happy we're doing this podcast.

0:46:23.360 --> 0:46:25.239
<v Speaker 3>Is I guess we're missing an all time meltdown from

0:46:25.280 --> 0:46:28.080
<v Speaker 3>Paula Vadosa in the we are.

0:46:28.000 --> 0:46:31.280
<v Speaker 2>And I'm checking the score, and it is like Paula

0:46:31.560 --> 0:46:34.960
<v Speaker 2>dropped the first set. She lost, my buddy.

0:46:35.200 --> 0:46:38.040
<v Speaker 3>She's literally crying as she's trying to even the second set.

0:46:39.400 --> 0:46:43.799
<v Speaker 2>She was never let me just update the score for

0:46:43.840 --> 0:46:46.799
<v Speaker 2>one second. God damn it. She lost the first set

0:46:46.880 --> 0:46:49.719
<v Speaker 2>six to two. She was up in the second set

0:46:50.080 --> 0:46:55.000
<v Speaker 2>at least when I saw it five too, and then

0:46:55.000 --> 0:46:59.279
<v Speaker 2>she got broke back and then broke again and now

0:46:59.440 --> 0:47:02.239
<v Speaker 2>just lost it on her serve seven to five. So

0:47:02.280 --> 0:47:04.800
<v Speaker 2>she lost the last at least the last five games

0:47:04.800 --> 0:47:09.080
<v Speaker 2>of that match. Wow, and down goes my plus five

0:47:09.080 --> 0:47:11.080
<v Speaker 2>point fifty on her to win the quarter. I told

0:47:11.080 --> 0:47:13.120
<v Speaker 2>this guy today, I was like, because he had both

0:47:13.160 --> 0:47:15.160
<v Speaker 2>of them, I was like, I would probably hedge a

0:47:15.160 --> 0:47:17.160
<v Speaker 2>little with Navarro, So I'm glad. I told him that

0:47:17.840 --> 0:47:20.120
<v Speaker 2>Mahova was going to get our tend on the home tomorrow.

0:47:20.280 --> 0:47:22.880
<v Speaker 4>I have not followed tennis since Chrissy Everett was playing,

0:47:23.239 --> 0:47:24.760
<v Speaker 4>and I'm getting into it now.

0:47:24.640 --> 0:47:25.480
<v Speaker 3>With you with your picture.

0:47:25.480 --> 0:47:27.880
<v Speaker 4>You've been doing very well, and I got to tell

0:47:27.880 --> 0:47:29.920
<v Speaker 4>you my favorite player as Sabri Lanka.

0:47:30.040 --> 0:47:32.120
<v Speaker 5>That is one savage player.

0:47:32.200 --> 0:47:35.040
<v Speaker 4>I love the way she's like whenever she gets a point,

0:47:35.480 --> 0:47:37.000
<v Speaker 4>Savage Sabri Lanka.

0:47:38.360 --> 0:47:40.560
<v Speaker 2>I'd like to introduce you to a young lady. I'd

0:47:40.600 --> 0:47:42.080
<v Speaker 2>like to call igo Sriantek.

0:47:42.800 --> 0:47:43.520
<v Speaker 3>Who's that Trum?

0:47:45.760 --> 0:47:48.920
<v Speaker 1>I will look, She's a girl. If you met in

0:47:49.000 --> 0:47:50.160
<v Speaker 1>the bar, you'd keep moving.

0:47:51.600 --> 0:47:54.400
<v Speaker 5>For my third selection, Jesus, I will take it.

0:47:56.280 --> 0:47:56.680
<v Speaker 2>Who was that?

0:47:57.360 --> 0:48:01.480
<v Speaker 1>Jesus? In women's tennis, it's important. Activeness is a key factor.

0:48:01.640 --> 0:48:03.880
<v Speaker 1>Stevie will tell you it's worth twenty cents.

0:48:04.400 --> 0:48:08.400
<v Speaker 5>You know who's attractive. The los Angeles Rams cheerleaders, and

0:48:08.480 --> 0:48:10.720
<v Speaker 5>I am on the Los Angeles Rams on a Segway

0:48:10.760 --> 0:48:11.760
<v Speaker 5>plus three and a half.

0:48:11.960 --> 0:48:13.960
<v Speaker 4>This sure has the feel to me to just be

0:48:14.040 --> 0:48:17.000
<v Speaker 4>a shootout, back and forth. I can see the Lions

0:48:17.040 --> 0:48:19.400
<v Speaker 4>getting up in this game, getting up seven.

0:48:19.320 --> 0:48:21.919
<v Speaker 5>Getting up ten. I think the back door will be open.

0:48:22.000 --> 0:48:24.200
<v Speaker 4>I think it will end as a close game. It's

0:48:24.280 --> 0:48:27.919
<v Speaker 4>just a gut feel. You give me that all important hook.

0:48:28.000 --> 0:48:29.799
<v Speaker 4>I do get the hook right, Todd plus.

0:48:29.520 --> 0:48:33.680
<v Speaker 1>Three and a half, Billy, and I think there's a

0:48:33.680 --> 0:48:35.640
<v Speaker 1>lot of three and a half. What do you guys say.

0:48:37.200 --> 0:48:39.400
<v Speaker 2>For the Rams? There is, Yes, there's a bunch of

0:48:39.400 --> 0:48:39.839
<v Speaker 2>three and a half.

0:48:39.960 --> 0:48:43.560
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, give me the Los Angeles Rams and they're lovely

0:48:43.640 --> 0:48:44.680
<v Speaker 4>cheerleaders plus the.

0:48:44.680 --> 0:48:46.200
<v Speaker 5>Three and a half for my third selection.

0:48:47.920 --> 0:48:50.120
<v Speaker 1>I didn't even know that there still was cheerleaders in

0:48:50.160 --> 0:48:57.080
<v Speaker 1>the National Football League? Is it my pick now, Gilly?

0:48:57.200 --> 0:48:58.360
<v Speaker 2>Yes, it is your last.

0:48:58.719 --> 0:49:03.000
<v Speaker 1>Okay. Look, I was gonna go with the dinner and

0:49:03.280 --> 0:49:06.560
<v Speaker 1>in uh thena you know, we're gonna have a big people.

0:49:06.640 --> 0:49:09.200
<v Speaker 1>You got all terrible pals down there, you know, people

0:49:09.239 --> 0:49:11.240
<v Speaker 1>going down there and saying, hey, we got to support

0:49:11.239 --> 0:49:13.759
<v Speaker 1>the team in that. But I was gonna get under

0:49:13.840 --> 0:49:16.320
<v Speaker 1>the forty two to two with all of these guys.

0:49:16.640 --> 0:49:18.640
<v Speaker 1>But I'm gonna do something different because we can't have

0:49:18.719 --> 0:49:21.120
<v Speaker 1>everybody picking the same damn thing. You know, if you're

0:49:21.120 --> 0:49:24.040
<v Speaker 1>Donner at the Rivers and you're watching the stores, let

0:49:24.080 --> 0:49:26.000
<v Speaker 1>me just tell you something right now, they're gonna charge

0:49:26.000 --> 0:49:29.440
<v Speaker 1>you eight billion dollars to park. Unless he got the

0:49:29.480 --> 0:49:32.040
<v Speaker 1>card and the things, you better be careful walk going

0:49:32.040 --> 0:49:36.040
<v Speaker 1>to the Rivers on the football Sunday. Anyways, I'm not

0:49:36.080 --> 0:49:40.920
<v Speaker 1>gonna do I'm not gonna I'm not gonna do the

0:49:40.960 --> 0:49:44.120
<v Speaker 1>Steeler game because everybody's on it. The under. I mean,

0:49:44.120 --> 0:49:46.480
<v Speaker 1>it seems like you guys couldn't be more right. I

0:49:46.520 --> 0:49:49.439
<v Speaker 1>mean that one does seem like it's got underwritten all

0:49:49.440 --> 0:49:52.600
<v Speaker 1>over it by the Arthur Smith former Atlanta coaches, also

0:49:52.640 --> 0:49:54.879
<v Speaker 1>in the neighborhood. I just learned on Northumberland, the same

0:49:54.880 --> 0:49:58.560
<v Speaker 1>street as me. Uh. Anyways, he's in the much richer

0:49:58.880 --> 0:50:03.080
<v Speaker 1>part of score Hope. I am going to go with

0:50:04.000 --> 0:50:08.000
<v Speaker 1>the under. I believe the number is forty four and

0:50:08.080 --> 0:50:11.279
<v Speaker 1>a half in the Titans Bears. Is that correct?

0:50:12.480 --> 0:50:15.040
<v Speaker 2>Yes, forty four and a half.

0:50:16.360 --> 0:50:17.520
<v Speaker 1>Oh, there is forty five.

0:50:20.160 --> 0:50:20.520
<v Speaker 2>And a half.

0:50:20.680 --> 0:50:22.600
<v Speaker 1>I think it's it's more forty four and a half.

0:50:22.640 --> 0:50:24.000
<v Speaker 1>I'm not going to try to steal a half a

0:50:24.000 --> 0:50:28.600
<v Speaker 1>point here under forty four and a half. Now, this guy,

0:50:28.920 --> 0:50:30.640
<v Speaker 1>Caleb Williams, I don't know if you guys have ever

0:50:30.680 --> 0:50:33.359
<v Speaker 1>heard of him. He was, you know, spectacular at the

0:50:33.680 --> 0:50:36.719
<v Speaker 1>Southern California and everything I heard he does hold on

0:50:36.800 --> 0:50:39.759
<v Speaker 1>to the ball a touch too long, and he was

0:50:39.800 --> 0:50:42.640
<v Speaker 1>getting away with that in college. I don't think he's

0:50:42.640 --> 0:50:44.919
<v Speaker 1>going to get away with that in the National Football League.

0:50:45.120 --> 0:50:50.160
<v Speaker 1>I've heard that the Titans have significantly upgraded the secondary.

0:50:50.640 --> 0:50:52.879
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if that's correct or not, but I've

0:50:52.920 --> 0:50:55.240
<v Speaker 1>heard that that they've got a lot of new people

0:50:55.239 --> 0:50:57.520
<v Speaker 1>in the secondary who are very, very good at football.

0:50:57.960 --> 0:51:00.680
<v Speaker 1>So I'm going to say that the rookie corsquarterback. You know,

0:51:01.000 --> 0:51:03.640
<v Speaker 1>I love to fade the rookie quarterback after.

0:51:03.480 --> 0:51:06.600
<v Speaker 6>Everyone's oh Caleb Williams, Oh my god. Brief season, didn't

0:51:06.600 --> 0:51:09.520
<v Speaker 6>see what he did. It was unbelievable. You know what,

0:51:09.840 --> 0:51:13.440
<v Speaker 6>Let's just maybe he's going to be great. Let's slow down.

0:51:13.719 --> 0:51:16.360
<v Speaker 6>Let's watch a game or two and see if mister

0:51:16.440 --> 0:51:19.360
<v Speaker 6>Caleb can do it against you know, when the defensive

0:51:19.440 --> 0:51:22.520
<v Speaker 6>line room, you know, figures something out on how to

0:51:22.600 --> 0:51:24.719
<v Speaker 6>kill the guy. I think he's going to have a

0:51:24.760 --> 0:51:29.120
<v Speaker 6>hard time moving the football at forty four and a half.

0:51:29.120 --> 0:51:32.160
<v Speaker 6>Now the Titans have Will Levis and a new coach,

0:51:32.560 --> 0:51:35.560
<v Speaker 6>so maybe they're not the same Verabel three yards.

0:51:35.239 --> 0:51:37.520
<v Speaker 1>And a cloud of dust. But I still got to

0:51:37.560 --> 0:51:41.800
<v Speaker 1>think that the coach can't be incredibly trusting of Will Levis.

0:51:42.080 --> 0:51:43.759
<v Speaker 1>I mean, they brought him in last year and they

0:51:43.840 --> 0:51:45.719
<v Speaker 1>kind of said, Okay, Will, we're going to give you

0:51:45.719 --> 0:51:49.200
<v Speaker 1>the keys, but slow it down. Let's game management here

0:51:49.239 --> 0:51:51.239
<v Speaker 1>a little bit. I have a feeling they're going to be,

0:51:51.400 --> 0:51:53.920
<v Speaker 1>you know, careful as well. And you know, in a

0:51:54.000 --> 0:51:55.759
<v Speaker 1>national football like forty four and a half, it's a

0:51:55.800 --> 0:51:59.160
<v Speaker 1>lot of points unless you're like a big time over team.

0:51:59.360 --> 0:52:01.359
<v Speaker 1>I don't see either of these teams is big time

0:52:01.440 --> 0:52:03.880
<v Speaker 1>over teams. So give me the under forty four and

0:52:03.920 --> 0:52:06.760
<v Speaker 1>a half. In the Bears game as a partial fade

0:52:07.120 --> 0:52:10.239
<v Speaker 1>of mister Caleb, hold the ball too long, take a

0:52:10.280 --> 0:52:13.000
<v Speaker 1>sack on third and six, Williams.

0:52:12.719 --> 0:52:14.040
<v Speaker 5>Gilly, I gotta chime in here.

0:52:14.960 --> 0:52:17.719
<v Speaker 4>The screen is forty five, and there's even forty five

0:52:17.719 --> 0:52:19.920
<v Speaker 4>and a halfs one place is forty four and a half.

0:52:20.239 --> 0:52:22.000
<v Speaker 4>You could make a case, we should give them forty

0:52:22.080 --> 0:52:24.160
<v Speaker 4>five and a half, but certainly a forty.

0:52:23.840 --> 0:52:27.720
<v Speaker 2>Five okay, because I'm seeing forty four and a halfs

0:52:27.880 --> 0:52:29.600
<v Speaker 2>at Bookmaker.

0:52:29.600 --> 0:52:33.239
<v Speaker 5>And that's only one on my screen. Everybody else is.

0:52:33.280 --> 0:52:37.880
<v Speaker 2>Higher Bookmaker and Pinnacle. I got forty four and a half. Okay,

0:52:37.880 --> 0:52:40.439
<v Speaker 2>So Todd will go according to Steve Fessick, we're giving

0:52:40.480 --> 0:52:41.200
<v Speaker 2>you a forty five.

0:52:42.120 --> 0:52:44.520
<v Speaker 1>I'll take the extra half a point. And by the way,

0:52:45.040 --> 0:52:47.360
<v Speaker 1>if you talk to Stevie long enough, you'll realize that

0:52:47.480 --> 0:52:50.840
<v Speaker 1>half a point is an extremely large amount.

0:52:52.680 --> 0:52:56.360
<v Speaker 2>Okay, will your last your final?

0:52:59.400 --> 0:53:01.400
<v Speaker 3>Hold them again? We're getting four on the Jets, right.

0:53:02.920 --> 0:53:03.160
<v Speaker 2>Four.

0:53:05.000 --> 0:53:06.759
<v Speaker 3>I'll put my money where my mouth is. I talked

0:53:06.760 --> 0:53:09.160
<v Speaker 3>about this team all summer, the fact that they and

0:53:09.200 --> 0:53:10.680
<v Speaker 3>I'm not a huge salad fan, but the fact that

0:53:10.680 --> 0:53:14.360
<v Speaker 3>he won seven games with a quarterback last year quarterback play.

0:53:14.719 --> 0:53:17.120
<v Speaker 3>There's a possibility none of those quarterbacks that played for

0:53:17.120 --> 0:53:19.440
<v Speaker 3>them last year will ever throw another pass in the NFL.

0:53:19.640 --> 0:53:23.040
<v Speaker 3>Maybe Zach Wilson does one day, as he's a third stringer,

0:53:23.040 --> 0:53:25.320
<v Speaker 3>so he's a couple injuries away from playing. Trevor Simeon,

0:53:25.719 --> 0:53:28.279
<v Speaker 3>Tim Boyle. They still won seven games. It's just a

0:53:28.320 --> 0:53:32.520
<v Speaker 3>loaded roster. I would love the fact that I wish

0:53:32.600 --> 0:53:34.560
<v Speaker 3>Trent Williams hol Out would last another week or two.

0:53:34.600 --> 0:53:35.920
<v Speaker 3>I don't love that, but I don't know how good

0:53:35.920 --> 0:53:37.680
<v Speaker 3>they are. The rest of the offensive line spots reading

0:53:37.680 --> 0:53:40.120
<v Speaker 3>some of their beat writers, there's some concern over the

0:53:40.120 --> 0:53:43.759
<v Speaker 3>rest of the San Francisco offensive line. I'll take the Jets.

0:53:43.800 --> 0:53:45.400
<v Speaker 3>I'll take the four. I think this team is loaded.

0:53:45.440 --> 0:53:47.960
<v Speaker 3>I think they're stacked here, and I'll take the points.

0:53:48.880 --> 0:53:51.480
<v Speaker 2>All right. My final one, I say with much trepidation,

0:53:52.480 --> 0:53:54.600
<v Speaker 2>it will be one of my survivor plays. I'm taking

0:53:54.600 --> 0:53:59.240
<v Speaker 2>the New Orleans Saints giving the four against the Kakilaki Panthers.

0:54:01.640 --> 0:54:04.239
<v Speaker 2>When last we saw the Carolina Panthers, Bryce Young was

0:54:04.280 --> 0:54:09.680
<v Speaker 2>having a truly historically epic and I don't think enough

0:54:09.760 --> 0:54:14.759
<v Speaker 2>was made of how bad his season was. Not his

0:54:14.760 --> 0:54:16.840
<v Speaker 2>fault because of his line, but but much of it

0:54:16.920 --> 0:54:22.080
<v Speaker 2>his fault in so many different ways. FTN Sports does

0:54:22.080 --> 0:54:25.040
<v Speaker 2>a great there's a great sort of recap on all

0:54:25.080 --> 0:54:27.359
<v Speaker 2>the different ways it was historically bad. I won't bore

0:54:27.400 --> 0:54:29.680
<v Speaker 2>you with the details. But Bryce Young, to your point

0:54:29.719 --> 0:54:32.839
<v Speaker 2>todd about preseason, Bryce Young comes out and has one

0:54:33.760 --> 0:54:37.520
<v Speaker 2>solidly efficient drive of football in a preseason game, and

0:54:37.600 --> 0:54:40.400
<v Speaker 2>apparently that is enough to now have people on the

0:54:40.440 --> 0:54:43.680
<v Speaker 2>oh Canalis is really going to help Bryce Young bandwagon

0:54:43.800 --> 0:54:47.640
<v Speaker 2>kind of thing. I'm not there. I know Aaron Schottz

0:54:47.960 --> 0:54:51.080
<v Speaker 2>believes that the Saints are going to win the NFC South.

0:54:52.000 --> 0:54:53.799
<v Speaker 2>I don't know who's gonna win the NFC South, but

0:54:53.880 --> 0:54:58.319
<v Speaker 2>I do like giving up for here. You know, I

0:54:58.320 --> 0:55:01.640
<v Speaker 2>don't think the Saints are necessarily so four always concerns

0:55:01.640 --> 0:55:04.120
<v Speaker 2>me as opposed to three. So it's not without some trepidation,

0:55:04.160 --> 0:55:07.759
<v Speaker 2>as I said, but given the choices, that is what

0:55:07.840 --> 0:55:10.160
<v Speaker 2>I land on with pick number three, the Saints minus

0:55:10.200 --> 0:55:12.319
<v Speaker 2>four against the Carolina Panthers.

0:55:12.719 --> 0:55:15.360
<v Speaker 1>I heard that that last nine games in that series

0:55:15.400 --> 0:55:18.720
<v Speaker 1>have gone under the Saints and the Panthers. Is that correct?

0:55:18.760 --> 0:55:21.600
<v Speaker 1>But that looks like a great under too, because the

0:55:21.640 --> 0:55:25.520
<v Speaker 1>Panthers can't score or team total.

0:55:25.600 --> 0:55:30.680
<v Speaker 2>Yeah s Carolina, that's not necessarily good for my minus four,

0:55:30.760 --> 0:55:31.840
<v Speaker 2>by the way, but yes.

0:55:33.040 --> 0:55:35.080
<v Speaker 1>Well, if the Panthers can't get more than ten points,

0:55:35.080 --> 0:55:35.399
<v Speaker 1>it is.

0:55:36.640 --> 0:55:38.319
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. By the way, here is here. I just want

0:55:38.320 --> 0:55:40.000
<v Speaker 2>to read this to you. This is from FDN Sports.

0:55:40.120 --> 0:55:42.840
<v Speaker 2>FTN is where Aaron Schottz now does this thing, the

0:55:42.920 --> 0:55:46.719
<v Speaker 2>creator of DVOA. They say, it's arguably just talking about

0:55:46.719 --> 0:55:49.600
<v Speaker 2>Bryce Young now arguably the most immoralizing rookie campaign in

0:55:49.640 --> 0:55:52.520
<v Speaker 2>the one hundred and four year history of the National

0:55:52.520 --> 0:55:56.720
<v Speaker 2>Football League. They have a stat called dyare third worst

0:55:56.760 --> 0:55:59.400
<v Speaker 2>ever recorded, just beaten out by the rookie years of

0:55:59.480 --> 0:56:04.440
<v Speaker 2>Josh Rose and then David Carr. Sixth all time, sixty

0:56:04.480 --> 0:56:07.520
<v Speaker 2>two sacks taken, third all time, four hundred and seventy

0:56:07.560 --> 0:56:10.280
<v Speaker 2>seven yards lost when he was able to stay upright,

0:56:10.280 --> 0:56:13.959
<v Speaker 2>his nine point one yards per completion ninth lowest ever.

0:56:14.400 --> 0:56:17.000
<v Speaker 2>Take the sack yards away from his completions. It was

0:56:17.080 --> 0:56:21.440
<v Speaker 2>just four point one yards per dropback utter disaster adjusted

0:56:21.440 --> 0:56:24.319
<v Speaker 2>for ERA, that's the tenth worst season ever, not that

0:56:24.360 --> 0:56:26.480
<v Speaker 2>his five point five yards per attempt without sacks was

0:56:26.520 --> 0:56:28.840
<v Speaker 2>much better. That's one of the twenty worst seasons of

0:56:28.880 --> 0:56:31.719
<v Speaker 2>all time that just did for ERA. I mean, it's

0:56:31.800 --> 0:56:36.279
<v Speaker 2>just incredible how bad it was, and I just don't

0:56:36.280 --> 0:56:40.239
<v Speaker 2>see it improving drastically in one offseason. So Saint's minus four.

0:56:40.719 --> 0:56:43.759
<v Speaker 3>You guys, ever, think how lucky the Bears got by

0:56:43.840 --> 0:56:46.520
<v Speaker 3>the Panthers taking Bryce Young and not CJ. Stroud, because

0:56:46.560 --> 0:56:49.120
<v Speaker 3>everyone would be killing the Bears for trading a pick

0:56:49.120 --> 0:56:52.120
<v Speaker 3>that turned into Stroud. The Bears wouldn't have Caleb Williams.

0:56:52.200 --> 0:56:53.759
<v Speaker 3>It would be viewed to such a disaster. Now the

0:56:53.840 --> 0:56:55.719
<v Speaker 3>n is all, what a great trade. You got all

0:56:55.719 --> 0:56:57.520
<v Speaker 3>this stuff back for Bryce Young was a bus Now

0:56:57.600 --> 0:57:00.000
<v Speaker 3>you have Caleb Williams. It's just funny how how lucky

0:57:00.000 --> 0:57:01.960
<v Speaker 3>plays a role in life. Because they had nothing, They

0:57:01.960 --> 0:57:03.400
<v Speaker 3>had nothing to do with who the Panthers took. They

0:57:03.400 --> 0:57:06.400
<v Speaker 3>didn't know who they do, and if it was Stroud,

0:57:06.400 --> 0:57:08.200
<v Speaker 3>it would be an all time blunder to trade that pick.

0:57:08.960 --> 0:57:11.440
<v Speaker 1>Such a Do you guys like that? Do you guys

0:57:11.480 --> 0:57:13.799
<v Speaker 1>like that team total under for Carolina? I like I

0:57:13.920 --> 0:57:15.160
<v Speaker 1>like it a lot, certainly.

0:57:15.320 --> 0:57:18.560
<v Speaker 2>Telling yourself into are you talking yourself into switching one

0:57:18.600 --> 0:57:20.040
<v Speaker 2>of your picks to that tod? Is that what we're here?

0:57:20.080 --> 0:57:22.080
<v Speaker 1>No, you can't do it. You can't do a team total.

0:57:22.120 --> 0:57:27.000
<v Speaker 1>It's like a bonus. Oh yeah, I'm talking about Panthers

0:57:27.000 --> 0:57:29.080
<v Speaker 1>team total under eighteen and a half, seventeen a half,

0:57:29.160 --> 0:57:31.640
<v Speaker 1>somewhere in that range. I mean that seems like are

0:57:31.640 --> 0:57:34.040
<v Speaker 1>they going to really score more than seventeen points on

0:57:34.080 --> 0:57:35.920
<v Speaker 1>the road at New Orleans?

0:57:36.880 --> 0:57:38.960
<v Speaker 4>You know, I got to chime in on these team totals.

0:57:39.080 --> 0:57:41.720
<v Speaker 4>The there's a disturbing trend. I don't know if you

0:57:41.720 --> 0:57:44.560
<v Speaker 4>guys have followed this for extra vague in the marketplace.

0:57:44.640 --> 0:57:48.880
<v Speaker 4>One higher sir taxes, et cetera. H minus one ten

0:57:49.160 --> 0:57:50.040
<v Speaker 4>is going away on.

0:57:50.000 --> 0:57:50.720
<v Speaker 5>These team totals.

0:57:50.760 --> 0:57:53.720
<v Speaker 4>It's pretty much most books are starting to price this

0:57:53.880 --> 0:57:59.600
<v Speaker 4>like at minus one fifteen, and with so many options

0:57:59.640 --> 0:58:02.200
<v Speaker 4>with bet th exchanges and produced vigorous and the like,

0:58:02.440 --> 0:58:06.480
<v Speaker 4>playing sides and even totals, it is rarely correct now,

0:58:06.480 --> 0:58:08.920
<v Speaker 4>in my opinion, to try to wager on team totals

0:58:08.960 --> 0:58:10.440
<v Speaker 4>just because the big is so much higher.

0:58:11.680 --> 0:58:14.720
<v Speaker 1>Hmmm, what if you get a rogue number, Stevie.

0:58:14.880 --> 0:58:17.920
<v Speaker 5>That's different, then go highway.

0:58:19.760 --> 0:58:25.600
<v Speaker 2>Different? All right? Teaser of the week two team six

0:58:25.720 --> 0:58:29.640
<v Speaker 2>point teaser where Todd has excelled here in the last

0:58:29.680 --> 0:58:34.240
<v Speaker 2>couple of years and he likes to remind us Willie.

0:58:33.160 --> 0:58:35.600
<v Speaker 1>Was thirteen and five last year and the teasers too.

0:58:36.160 --> 0:58:38.240
<v Speaker 1>What about Willie? Doesn't he give a I know he's

0:58:38.320 --> 0:58:41.520
<v Speaker 1>up there in Connecticut just checking out Fairfield women's basketball

0:58:41.560 --> 0:58:42.360
<v Speaker 1>most days.

0:58:42.080 --> 0:58:50.280
<v Speaker 2>But the points for me, yeah, it's right, that's exactly

0:58:50.280 --> 0:58:53.240
<v Speaker 2>what it is. Well, what I was trying to get

0:58:53.280 --> 0:58:57.840
<v Speaker 2>at was the fact that you, uh, you're you morph

0:58:58.400 --> 0:59:01.080
<v Speaker 2>depending on how well you're doing what category to what

0:59:01.160 --> 0:59:03.560
<v Speaker 2>is the most important category, the actual pitch.

0:59:03.920 --> 0:59:07.280
<v Speaker 1>Jeezus, look, if you, if you, if you read, if

0:59:07.280 --> 0:59:09.880
<v Speaker 1>you listen back to this the beginning of this podcast,

0:59:10.240 --> 0:59:13.760
<v Speaker 1>I took a special moment to give you a congratulations

0:59:13.760 --> 0:59:16.640
<v Speaker 1>on your thirty eight and fifteen, which is the most

0:59:16.720 --> 0:59:21.080
<v Speaker 1>important category. So please don't disdain show your disdain.

0:59:20.680 --> 0:59:22.640
<v Speaker 4>For my and I would like I would like to

0:59:22.640 --> 0:59:25.880
<v Speaker 4>give Todd wishing to have a special recognition recognition here

0:59:26.040 --> 0:59:31.640
<v Speaker 4>because he has absolutely changed the course of my life

0:59:31.680 --> 0:59:34.560
<v Speaker 4>with our challenge that we had two years ago, and

0:59:34.640 --> 0:59:38.000
<v Speaker 4>I can honestly say it would never have happened had

0:59:38.040 --> 0:59:39.200
<v Speaker 4>it not been for Todd.

0:59:39.280 --> 0:59:44.760
<v Speaker 1>So thank you, Todd. I am stebe. You look great.

0:59:44.840 --> 0:59:45.720
<v Speaker 1>I really do look great.

0:59:46.800 --> 0:59:49.160
<v Speaker 2>I know people who are listening to this podcast will

0:59:49.160 --> 0:59:51.440
<v Speaker 2>not care, well it goes one of my your thoughts.

0:59:51.720 --> 0:59:57.280
<v Speaker 2>They will not care necessarily about about this Paula Badosa match.

0:59:57.360 --> 1:00:00.880
<v Speaker 2>But she was up five to one, five one in

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<v Speaker 2>the final set and from that point forward one I'm

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<v Speaker 2>gonna count the total number of points she won for

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<v Speaker 2>the rest of the match one, two, three, four, five

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<v Speaker 2>five points. The rest of the match.

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<v Speaker 4>Reminds me of you lost twenty two point where I

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<v Speaker 4>won like five points in the last forty.

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<v Speaker 2>Wait, you guys were talking at the same time, will

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<v Speaker 2>you first? What did you say?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, my buddy who texted me and this was a

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<v Speaker 3>few minutes ago. He said, at this point, she's lost

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<v Speaker 3>twenty of the last twenty two points and she was

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<v Speaker 3>crying down six five trying to serve and to tie

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<v Speaker 3>the match.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my god, is there crying? Who told her?

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<v Speaker 3>I bet on her?

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<v Speaker 2>What's that?

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<v Speaker 1>Who told her?

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<v Speaker 3>The reason? Telling the reason this happened?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh?

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<v Speaker 2>Man, that's out.

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<v Speaker 1>I think we may see something similar with the crying

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<v Speaker 1>on Friday at Duck Creek Park. We may see a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of crying from my good friend Gilly and my

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<v Speaker 1>other good friend Stevie as I continuously hit slices toward

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<v Speaker 1>their weak ass backands and they have to like huddle

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<v Speaker 1>up and try to figure out what to do because

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<v Speaker 1>they have no answers. Similar to when defenses went up

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<v Speaker 1>against John Riggins and they told the whole building knew

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<v Speaker 1>it was Riggins right, Riggins left and they still couldn't

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<v Speaker 1>stop it.

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<v Speaker 4>I would play the underdog moneyline parlay of Alexander and

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<v Speaker 4>Feasick for a huge one hundred to one payouts.

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<v Speaker 2>Todd, what would you do if I literally just started

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<v Speaker 2>crying on the tennis core because I couldn't they couldn't

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<v Speaker 2>counter it. I just would have Have you ever seen

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<v Speaker 2>a grown man cry before? What have I just started

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<v Speaker 2>to doing it? Stopped in the middle, stood there, just wept.

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<v Speaker 2>Charlie Brown tears. Teaser of the week, Stevie, what do

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<v Speaker 2>you got?

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<v Speaker 3>All right?

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<v Speaker 5>I'm gonna tease the Cincinnati Bengals.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm gonna play them in my survivor call me a

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<v Speaker 4>square ball the obvious pick.

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<v Speaker 5>I like it so much. I want to tease the

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<v Speaker 5>Bengals to the Bengals, but Todd won't allow that. So

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<v Speaker 5>let me have the Bengals down the mice two and

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<v Speaker 5>a half and then I'm look at the other two people.

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<v Speaker 1>Explain that to people, what you mean by teasing the

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<v Speaker 1>Bengals to the Bengals?

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<v Speaker 4>I was, it's the same bet, so I was just

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<v Speaker 4>but you're right. But you're right, like sometimes at good point,

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<v Speaker 4>like with these week two lines, sometimes you can play

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<v Speaker 4>like only give an example of a bet I should

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<v Speaker 4>have made, and I didn't, and I'm angry, Like, if

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<v Speaker 4>you're going to bet against Florida State against Georgia Tech,

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<v Speaker 4>if you had parlayed that to Boston College, think about

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<v Speaker 4>how good that correlation was. You know, you put be

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<v Speaker 4>against the team twice or for a team. So if

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<v Speaker 4>a book will let you parlay a week one to

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<v Speaker 4>week two, same team, consider it. But in this case,

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<v Speaker 4>I am teasing the Bengals down to my two and

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<v Speaker 4>a half. I know Chase might not play, knowing what's

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<v Speaker 4>gonna win three games this year, they're not going to

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<v Speaker 4>win in the jungle.

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<v Speaker 5>That's not going to be one of them. And then

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<v Speaker 5>I'm going to use them.

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<v Speaker 4>I look at the Wong teasers, and all things being equal,

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<v Speaker 4>I'll play a long teaser with a lower total. I

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<v Speaker 4>know Willie loves the Minnesota Vikings, but that's why they've

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<v Speaker 4>gotten bet up from pick to miss one half, which

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<v Speaker 4>puts it squarely into teasable territory. So give me the

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<v Speaker 4>Giants to lose the game, but plus seven and a half.

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<v Speaker 5>To cover the teaser for my second leg.

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<v Speaker 1>By the way, when I was when I was doing

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<v Speaker 1>research for this podcast, I read that the Cincinnati Bengals

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<v Speaker 1>gave up six yards per play, the worst number in

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<v Speaker 1>the NFL, and I couldn't believe that it did. Does

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<v Speaker 1>that resonate with you, guys? They were the worst? They

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<v Speaker 1>got killed six yards to play.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't remember that. I don't remember that, dude.

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<v Speaker 1>I can't believe that they were worsted. That's unbelievable. But anyways,

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<v Speaker 1>on my what I.

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<v Speaker 2>Forget from one season to the next though, Like if

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<v Speaker 2>you had asked me that week eighteen, would I have that? Probably?

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<v Speaker 1>I would have never guessed that Cincinnati had the worst

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<v Speaker 1>yards per play defense in the whole league. That's that's

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<v Speaker 1>hard to believe. But I'm going to take the obvious

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<v Speaker 1>as well, the Cincinnata Bengals minus the two and a half,

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<v Speaker 1>and instead of doing the Giants like Stevie does in

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<v Speaker 1>the correct standard long scenario, I'm going to do something

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<v Speaker 1>a touch different and go with the Bills on the Now,

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<v Speaker 1>the smart thing would do would be to do the

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<v Speaker 1>money line, but we're just going to Bills pick them

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<v Speaker 1>on the other from six down to zero. I know, Stevie,

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<v Speaker 1>this isn't financially proper to do, but it will also

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<v Speaker 1>be fun because I can root against Gilly's cards. Plus

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<v Speaker 1>six pick at the same time. So I could have

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<v Speaker 1>Bills pick them and Cincinnati minus two and a half

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<v Speaker 1>and hopefully Gilly gets off to a terrible Oh wait

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<v Speaker 1>a second, This just in from rich Stadium. It's first

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<v Speaker 1>in goal here at the eight yard line. The Bills

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<v Speaker 1>we're in the fourth quarter, was seven minutes to play.

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<v Speaker 1>Bill I was leading thirty eight to six. Josh Allen

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<v Speaker 1>handed out the ball off. He's going in forty five

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<v Speaker 1>does six? Holy cow, we haven't said the Bills do

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<v Speaker 1>this and Yees run it up the score.

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<v Speaker 4>As as Todd mentioned, the reason he he wants to

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<v Speaker 4>say it's mathematically and correct is that when you tease

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<v Speaker 4>each leg, if you have six point teaser minus one

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<v Speaker 4>twenty each leg, you're laying approximately two eighty. That's essentially

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<v Speaker 4>what a teaser is. So when you put the Bills

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<v Speaker 4>in and a teaser, mathematically it's minus to eighty. But

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<v Speaker 4>you can play the money line mius two sixty. So

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<v Speaker 4>that's what Todd was referring to. You can get twenty

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<v Speaker 4>cents better on the bet if you just play the

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<v Speaker 4>Bills on the money line.

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<v Speaker 1>Also, Bills Sidhawks is an example of that, right, Bill

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<v Speaker 1>Seahawks would be a good example. Yes, go ahead, gild.

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<v Speaker 2>Long teaser definition for those again. Stanford Wong pseudonym, real

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<v Speaker 2>name John Ferguson wrote a book The Art was the

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<v Speaker 2>Art of Sports Betting. I believe it was called or

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<v Speaker 2>something sharports Bet Sports Bettingford.

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<v Speaker 4>I knew Stanford before he wrote the book. I mean

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<v Speaker 4>we we talked about teasers back in the nineties together.

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<v Speaker 4>So yeah, before there were.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, he identified the most the most plus EV

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<v Speaker 2>teaser legs. Home favorites of between seven and a half

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<v Speaker 2>and eight and a half excuse me, seven and a

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<v Speaker 2>half and eight and a half or seven and a

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<v Speaker 2>half in yeah, eight and a half teas down home

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<v Speaker 2>dogs and road dogs of between one and a half

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<v Speaker 2>and two and a half teas upwards. So you're going

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<v Speaker 2>through the threes and the sevens. Now, there's gonna be

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<v Speaker 2>people who listen to this are like, that's still the case.

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<v Speaker 2>Then it depends on the total too. Yes, all of

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<v Speaker 2>those things are factored into it. But those are the

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<v Speaker 2>teaser legs.

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<v Speaker 1>That by the way, is it still Rich Medium in Buffalo?

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<v Speaker 1>I believe I said we were coming. We were coming

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<v Speaker 1>by rich Stadium.

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<v Speaker 2>By the way, road favorites of seven and a half

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<v Speaker 2>to eight and a half are not part of that.

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<v Speaker 2>It should be noted the best part of that Todd

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<v Speaker 2>play by play for those because he don't have the

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<v Speaker 2>visual here, Todd held his uh, his right hand up

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<v Speaker 2>to his ear, just his little stubby finger hands that

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<v Speaker 2>he held up play as if he was getting the

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<v Speaker 2>feet in. It's so great. Was my turn?

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<v Speaker 1>There will will he will willill.

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<v Speaker 3>It's my turn. But I want to know. I want

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<v Speaker 3>to know how we got from Ferguson to Wong. How

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<v Speaker 3>did that? How did that leave take place?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, good question, Stevie.

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<v Speaker 1>You know well Asians, I.

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<v Speaker 5>Don't, I do.

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<v Speaker 4>I know his daughter went to he lives in Lahoy

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<v Speaker 4>and his daughter went to Stanford. So that's where where

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<v Speaker 4>Stanford came from. The long you know, I think it

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<v Speaker 4>was a term in black deck. He kind of invented.

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<v Speaker 5>You'd walk around just side count the shoes and when

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<v Speaker 5>the count went good, he would sit down and Wong

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<v Speaker 5>and I only playing on the positiveccounts.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and was that called her long?

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<v Speaker 1>But why was it called Wong, Stevie? They could have

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<v Speaker 1>said he uh, he snooker.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll get back to you, Stanford snooker identified the best

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<v Speaker 2>plus EV teaser legs.

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<v Speaker 1>My friend. My friend is like it's he calls it sniggling.

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<v Speaker 1>He's always shniggling for an extra. You know, he's calling

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<v Speaker 1>the Starbucks manager. It's like unbelievable.

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<v Speaker 2>By the way, I grew up the old Tom Disorta story,

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<v Speaker 2>Tom Lasorda, like, you know, Tommy John had the surgery

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<v Speaker 2>to repair his elbow and it became forever known as

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<v Speaker 2>Tommy John surgery. And Tommy Losorda's line was, thank god

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<v Speaker 2>it wasn't Billy Rebarkowitz, because that's what we have known it.

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<v Speaker 2>We would have known it as all these years. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sorry, go ahead.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean I grew up hearing thinking that teasers were

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<v Speaker 3>sucker bets, and I've actually heard it. I still hear

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<v Speaker 3>it once in a while. If you're playing teasers, it's

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<v Speaker 3>a sucker. They call it teaser for a reason. I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>if you're getting the right price. And that's a point

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<v Speaker 3>of contention now, I guessespecially in Vegas where it's hard

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<v Speaker 3>to find one ten, it's hard to find one to fifteen,

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<v Speaker 3>they're jacking up the prices. But man, if you pick

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<v Speaker 3>your spots, you'll probably do pretty well.

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<v Speaker 1>With the teasers.

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<v Speaker 3>That being said, I'm gonna throw the Bengals in with

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<v Speaker 3>everybody else. I'll be a little different. I'm surprised nobody

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<v Speaker 3>took the Cowboys lower total. We haven't seen Watson. It's

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<v Speaker 3>always something with Watson's shoulder. There's always a cloud of mystery,

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<v Speaker 3>and you wonder if you get to the point where

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<v Speaker 3>it's just so bad with that contract. I don't know

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<v Speaker 3>if they can get out of it, but it's not

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<v Speaker 3>gone well. And that's a lower total forty one and

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<v Speaker 3>a half. I would expect that to be a close

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<v Speaker 3>game between the Cowboys and the Brown so Bengals from

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<v Speaker 3>eight and a half to two and a half Cowboys

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<v Speaker 3>the opposite way two and a half up to plus

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<v Speaker 3>eight and a half is my two team Wong teaser.

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<v Speaker 1>Stevie give us a little shouldn't Stevie tell us a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit about teasing, pricing and stuff like that. I

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<v Speaker 1>feel like he should be talking about explaining where it

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<v Speaker 1>used to be where it is now. All that stuff.

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<v Speaker 4>Started even money then it became minus one ten forever,

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<v Speaker 4>the sharp money they talk about. Andy algorithm discovered the

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<v Speaker 4>teasers being advantageous. Ad did Stanford Wong then became Mius

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<v Speaker 4>one twenty and now Mius one twenty is I believe

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<v Speaker 4>Dunzo in Vegas. I don't think anybody has Mius one

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<v Speaker 4>twenty more, but possibly.

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<v Speaker 5>Caesar's still has it.

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<v Speaker 4>But offshore you can still play it at several books,

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<v Speaker 4>including DraftKings and book makers, so it's still out there,

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<v Speaker 4>but it is becoming harder and harder.

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<v Speaker 5>As well said to find.

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<v Speaker 1>It Stevie, what about the seven and seven and a

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<v Speaker 1>half point.

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<v Speaker 4>The six and a half and seven point teasers, or

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<v Speaker 4>at Mius one thirty and Mis one forty, and if

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<v Speaker 4>certainly playable in the right spots, like if it wouldn't

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<v Speaker 4>be unusual, you might get someone a team, for instance,

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<v Speaker 4>is and there's some bad rules on ties louse In

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<v Speaker 4>some places ties lous automatically even if your other teaser

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<v Speaker 4>like wins. So if ties lose and you have like

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<v Speaker 4>a team that's a seven, say that they're an eight

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<v Speaker 4>point favorite, instead of teasing them down to mis two,

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<v Speaker 4>you almost always should use the six a half points teaser,

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<v Speaker 4>always teased to a half point number such that it

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<v Speaker 4>can't land on the number because you've got bad ties

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<v Speaker 4>rules rules within those teasers.

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<v Speaker 5>Check your local rules at your book.

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<v Speaker 2>Good question, that's a good point. Good answer, Stevie. And

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<v Speaker 2>for those who are way.

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<v Speaker 1>We just talked before you go on, should we should

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<v Speaker 1>we just stop a second and really explain, because Stevie

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<v Speaker 1>said that really fast. For for novices out there, what

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<v Speaker 1>he's saying is there are books that if one leg ties,

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<v Speaker 1>you lose your thing, so you might as well go

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<v Speaker 1>six and a half to get that extra half a

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<v Speaker 1>point so it doesn't have any chance of landing on two.

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<v Speaker 1>I just wanted to slow that down because he said

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<v Speaker 1>it fast, and I'm sure we all understood it, but

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<v Speaker 1>you know, the the the the the listener needs to

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<v Speaker 1>understand it too. Do not play down to two?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Todd, it's your podcast or whatever you want to

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<v Speaker 2>say and do. Sorry, I was just rut Jay Rude,

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<v Speaker 2>my buddy at the former vice president of Race and

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<v Speaker 2>Sports at MGM, used to hate that they would get

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<v Speaker 2>teasers refunded on a tie. Used to hate that aspect

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<v Speaker 2>of it. Is that what you were talking about just now?

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, I would dive around the dumpsters to try to

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<v Speaker 4>to try to find them, though, Gilly, because people would

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<v Speaker 4>throw them out.

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<v Speaker 1>You ever find any there? It is?

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<v Speaker 3>Did you ever find any?

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<v Speaker 2>Think about that. Think about that two team teasers where

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<v Speaker 2>you had a loss and a tie. The average better

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<v Speaker 2>would think to themselves, oh that's a loss, but you

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<v Speaker 2>can't tease down to one, so it was actually a

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<v Speaker 2>refund and so Stevie would dumpster dive for the refunds.

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<v Speaker 1>Did you find any? That's a great question.

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<v Speaker 5>Will it's a living.

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<v Speaker 2>Ever find living?

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<v Speaker 1>Did you, Steve? Did you really find some?

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<v Speaker 4>I did, yes, but they're like ten dollars, Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>I can. The best is the nicest guy, like we

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<v Speaker 3>joke around.

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<v Speaker 5>He's the nice I.

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<v Speaker 3>Can only imagine Fez's eyes lighting up when he sees

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<v Speaker 3>that it's a live teaser and he can be funny.

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<v Speaker 1>Even it's ten dollars.

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<v Speaker 3>Just the fact that he gaves I can only imagine

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<v Speaker 3>your face like a fastball hitter gave a two old fastball, right, you.

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<v Speaker 4>Know, I know we're running late, but this is a

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<v Speaker 4>real good advantage play. Like if you do play a

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<v Speaker 4>two team teaser where ties push all right, and you

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<v Speaker 4>and you and you have a second.

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<v Speaker 5>Leg that's open, which you can do with some books,

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<v Speaker 5>and that teaser is about to lose. Your first leg's

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<v Speaker 5>about to lose.

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<v Speaker 4>And you have an open spot, hurry quickly fill it

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<v Speaker 4>and take a minus nine favorite down to minus three

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<v Speaker 4>because you can sometimes resurrect to push. Now you're not

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<v Speaker 4>trying to win the second leg. You need to tie

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<v Speaker 4>the second leg. So you want to take a minus

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<v Speaker 4>three to a plus three or a minus nine to

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<v Speaker 4>a minustere And now you have a ten percent chance

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<v Speaker 4>to get your money back or close to it if

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<v Speaker 4>you can get that second leg put in. If you

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<v Speaker 4>don't put it in, when the game goes final, they

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<v Speaker 4>just graded as a loss. But if the second leg

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<v Speaker 4>is in there, now you got a chance to resurrect it.

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<v Speaker 2>And what I was trying to say earlier before Todd

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<v Speaker 2>kept interrupting, was when Stevie was talking about the you know,

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<v Speaker 2>the incremental increase and the juice on these teasers where

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<v Speaker 2>the people who are new to sports betting are new

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<v Speaker 2>to teasing or whatever whatever betting vehicle there is when

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<v Speaker 2>the when the juice increases, essentially the way of putting,

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<v Speaker 2>that is, your percentage of hits then has to incrementally

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<v Speaker 2>increase as well for it to be successful. So the

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<v Speaker 2>higher they make that juice, no matter how incremental, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>you'll go from you know what the you know, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>just making up numbers now, but seventy seven point four

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<v Speaker 2>percent of trying to hit them to seventy eight percent

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<v Speaker 2>to seventy nine percent. So every time they do that,

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<v Speaker 2>it just becomes harder to beat. And it may not

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<v Speaker 2>seem like that. You're like, oh, it's the same teaser.

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<v Speaker 2>What do I care if it's minus one twenty percent

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<v Speaker 2>minus one fifteen No, over the long haul, it completely matters.

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<v Speaker 2>I want to point that out.

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<v Speaker 5>Harley Carr got nine Teamer pays right now pays. Let

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<v Speaker 5>make sure I get this right.

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<v Speaker 4>The nine teamer pays used to pay four hundred to

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<v Speaker 4>one and now it pays two hundred to one. So

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<v Speaker 4>it's been reduced by fifty percent from like ten years ago.

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<v Speaker 4>It's gotten really really hard to win in Vegas.

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<v Speaker 2>Are we all playing Survivor? Is everybody in Circus Survivor? Yes? Yes, Toddy,

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<v Speaker 2>are you in it?

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<v Speaker 1>I can try to get there if I can get

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<v Speaker 1>there this weekend, like I'm trying.

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<v Speaker 3>We have a returning champion on the podcast. What do

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<v Speaker 3>you mean is he played? He's a returning champion. He's

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<v Speaker 3>got the jacket.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, that's right, Steve Fezick is a was an investor

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<v Speaker 2>in a in A one of the four that chopped

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<v Speaker 2>at the end. So Stevie got himself his picture with

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<v Speaker 2>the check and actually got himself a circus survivor check.

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<v Speaker 2>That's I forgot it.

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<v Speaker 4>So the documentary instead of making four hundred thousand, I

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<v Speaker 4>made three hundred and ninety nine thousand because it cost

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<v Speaker 4>that the jacket cost me about.

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<v Speaker 2>You pay for the jacket? Yeah, he bought the jacket.

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<v Speaker 2>Now let me ask you a question, Todd. If you

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<v Speaker 2>are just an investor, no matter how much you helped,

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<v Speaker 2>you're an investor, should you buy the jacket?

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<v Speaker 1>First of all? That is just see this is an

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<v Speaker 1>example of Stevie Twitter. That's Stevie Twitter who buys the

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<v Speaker 1>jacket in an incredibly ridiculous move.

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<v Speaker 3>When I can't take.

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<v Speaker 1>Halfway through the wait, Willie, I want you to hear

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<v Speaker 1>your opinion in all it's it's, it's, it's, it's but

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<v Speaker 1>one second, do you agree with me, Willy?

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<v Speaker 2>Not until Tod stops talking. Will because I.

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<v Speaker 1>Was in the middle.

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<v Speaker 2>I was in the middle. I'm never in the middle

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<v Speaker 2>when you interrupt me.

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<v Speaker 1>Go ahead, Will Jesus, would you agree with me that

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<v Speaker 1>is the most fugazy thing you ever heard, somebody buying

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<v Speaker 1>the jacket when he invested halfway through the season. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>what all power to him. I tipped the hat for

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<v Speaker 1>being an investor. Brilliant, brilliant, brother, You don't buy the jet,

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<v Speaker 1>that's just ridiculous.

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<v Speaker 3>Will I will defend my client, mister fick here, I

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<v Speaker 3>will defend my client. I heard the story. I think

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<v Speaker 3>I give it out another podcast to tell the story

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<v Speaker 3>where he was with the winners or whatever and the

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<v Speaker 3>guy who was in charge of the jacket said, hey,

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<v Speaker 3>you want a jacket, and I think Steve said yes,

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<v Speaker 3>and then he's just like give me your card. And

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<v Speaker 3>Steve was kind of in the awkward position like I

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<v Speaker 3>don't even know how much this thing costs. I'm just

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<v Speaker 3>kind of giving you to my card. And I think

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<v Speaker 3>Steve was putting awkward position. Is that correct, mister Fei.

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<v Speaker 4>He measured me for three minutes. He took all my

1:17:25.760 --> 1:17:28.919
<v Speaker 4>measurements and like even like what touched my another regions

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<v Speaker 4>and the like, and then I felt like, well, I'm

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<v Speaker 4>kind of pot committed at this point. To be fair, Also,

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<v Speaker 4>Gilly knows that hey, Greg wan and he did Greg

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<v Speaker 4>Jones did a fantastic job. But Gilly knows, how many

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<v Speaker 4>hours do you think I invested on that Survivor.

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<v Speaker 5>Entry in December per week?

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<v Speaker 2>Gily, Well, that's what I was good. That's what I

1:17:48.640 --> 1:17:51.280
<v Speaker 2>was going to say. That Stevie absolutely helped him and

1:17:51.400 --> 1:17:54.920
<v Speaker 2>then spent a lot of brain power and time. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>it's a collectively, you probably spent more than twenty four

1:17:59.280 --> 1:18:02.960
<v Speaker 2>hours on it. You say, yeah, like you were always

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<v Speaker 2>locked into that thing.

1:18:04.439 --> 1:18:06.400
<v Speaker 1>Well, there was two hours when we're at that bar.

1:18:07.240 --> 1:18:09.400
<v Speaker 1>When we were at that bar at Nobu and Stevie

1:18:09.439 --> 1:18:12.519
<v Speaker 1>was ordering all off the folio. You guys were discussing

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<v Speaker 1>it for at least two hours there that evening while

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<v Speaker 1>I was talking to those two ladies, who were nice

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<v Speaker 1>doctors from the Midwest.

1:18:20.400 --> 1:18:24.080
<v Speaker 4>I've never seen somebody beef Wago tacos so quickly.

1:18:24.479 --> 1:18:25.799
<v Speaker 5>It was like speeding breakfast.

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<v Speaker 2>Steve and I are having this high level conversation that

1:18:30.000 --> 1:18:32.080
<v Speaker 2>Toddy is just locked into these two girls.

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<v Speaker 1>They were loving me. Those ladies were loving me. I see,

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<v Speaker 1>I am what they call it a world class opener,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm like the Yankees bullpen in closing. I don't close.

1:18:41.920 --> 1:18:44.720
<v Speaker 1>I can give you a strong six innings. I can

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<v Speaker 1>open anyone at any time. I'm going to give you

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<v Speaker 1>six innings. I'm gonna give a hundred pitches, and then

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<v Speaker 1>I'll hand it over to me as the closer, as

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<v Speaker 1>the Yankees bullpen, and I'll blow up.

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<v Speaker 4>You are the Jack Billingham of starting pictures. Oh, the

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<v Speaker 4>white red machine, not.

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<v Speaker 2>The Don Gullet, the Jack Billyham.

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<v Speaker 1>Jack Don Gullett was a reliever.

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<v Speaker 5>Gollett could close.

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<v Speaker 1>Baby.

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<v Speaker 2>Don Gullett was a starter, wasn't he.

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<v Speaker 1>No? He was a.

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<v Speaker 5>Gaming of the seventy five World Series, gave up three runs.

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<v Speaker 1>He started Game seven.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh see, my little boy brain, I thought he was

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<v Speaker 2>a starter. Normal, Okay, gotcha. Last thing? So survivor. So

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<v Speaker 2>I have multiple entries?

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<v Speaker 1>Really, what about your teaser, Gilly?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh that's right. I'm sorry because I never got that out.

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<v Speaker 1>Cincinnati guys, maybe this should be my Maybe this should

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<v Speaker 1>be my podcast. You're right, go ahead.

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<v Speaker 2>No, No, what I'm finding is when I talk on

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<v Speaker 2>this new setup, you guys don't hear anything that I'm

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<v Speaker 2>saying when there's multiple people talking, because I'm literally talking

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<v Speaker 2>to no one Cincinnati Bengals, like everybody else. I wanted

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<v Speaker 2>to say the Giants just to make it a perfect

1:19:54.760 --> 1:19:57.240
<v Speaker 2>Wong teaser. But I cannot bring myself to do that.

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<v Speaker 2>So I am going to do Uh, I'm gonna do

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<v Speaker 2>the Jets. I'm going to tease them up to ten,

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<v Speaker 2>which I know is not standard long play, but that's

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<v Speaker 2>what I'm gonna do. Yeah, I know Stevie's his head's

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<v Speaker 2>ready to blow.

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<v Speaker 5>Said Don.

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<v Speaker 4>When I said Don gull was a closer, I meant

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<v Speaker 4>he wet nine innings. He of course is a starter.

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<v Speaker 4>Coffee is for closers, Todd, Coffee is for closers.

1:20:21.280 --> 1:20:21.479
<v Speaker 2>Yeh.

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<v Speaker 1>By the way, what you're.

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<v Speaker 2>Saying, Don Gullett was not. Don Gullet was not a

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<v Speaker 2>regular season starter. He was not.

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<v Speaker 4>No, he was a starter, but he would pitch nine innings,

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<v Speaker 4>whereas Jack Billingham would pitch five or six.

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<v Speaker 2>They're both okay, I thought John Gullett was a starter.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, Yeah, all right, okay, Survivor. I am going

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<v Speaker 2>to I'll just I'll just do this out of order.

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<v Speaker 2>I think I'm gonna have a Bengal or two, but

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<v Speaker 2>I think I'm also going to have a Saints or

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<v Speaker 2>two because this is the most natural spot to play

1:20:52.280 --> 1:20:55.800
<v Speaker 2>The Saints I don't know if I'm going to have

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<v Speaker 2>a third play in the event that there's complete carnage

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<v Speaker 2>in Week one, but I know that I'll have at

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<v Speaker 2>least a couple entries on those two teams.

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<v Speaker 5>Stevie, I think seven Bengals, maybe two Saints. I might

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<v Speaker 5>go Vikings. I looked at their schedule.

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<v Speaker 4>They don't have any easy games the entire year, so

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<v Speaker 4>I'm like, as far as a contrarian trying to win

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<v Speaker 4>it all, maybe I take Minnesota for one pick.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Again, my theory is with these survivor entries, I

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<v Speaker 2>think there's a point of redundancy. I don't know if

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<v Speaker 2>having beyond five entries really matters in the end, because

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<v Speaker 2>I think you ultimately play one optimally, and if you

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<v Speaker 2>have five or ten, you're just doing things percentage wise,

1:21:42.040 --> 1:21:44.839
<v Speaker 2>So it might it might last you a week, Lon'

1:21:45.160 --> 1:21:48.200
<v Speaker 2>I don't know. I don't know if the five thousand

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<v Speaker 2>dollars extra entry ultimately pays off for you in the end.

1:21:52.360 --> 1:21:55.960
<v Speaker 4>I think it has plus ten percent ROI instead of

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<v Speaker 4>plus forty percent ROI. It's not as good, okay, but

1:21:59.160 --> 1:22:00.800
<v Speaker 4>I mean it's seventy eight people are going to die

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<v Speaker 4>or not submit their picks.

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<v Speaker 1>I like that.

1:22:05.080 --> 1:22:09.320
<v Speaker 2>I think that's probably right. That's amazing. People don't submit

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<v Speaker 2>their picks.

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<v Speaker 1>The Actuarial Table by Stevie Fesick ten thousand entries and

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<v Speaker 1>forty two of them are gonna die. But wait, we're

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<v Speaker 1>hearing there's more diabetics in this year. So I believe

1:22:23.439 --> 1:22:25.759
<v Speaker 1>that's going to move it up similar to the kickoff.

1:22:25.800 --> 1:22:28.479
<v Speaker 1>We're going to have forty seven people dying, and that

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<v Speaker 1>moves your ROI up so excellent. By the way, were

1:22:30.920 --> 1:22:32.880
<v Speaker 1>you able to do ten last year? Was it five?

1:22:33.040 --> 1:22:33.760
<v Speaker 1>Was that a new thing?

1:22:34.200 --> 1:22:37.720
<v Speaker 2>Ten ten was last year? Ten ten was new last year?

1:22:37.760 --> 1:22:38.559
<v Speaker 2>Will what do you play?

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<v Speaker 3>Be a little different? And this isn't my official one yet,

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<v Speaker 3>but I'm looking at Seattle. I just think I remember

1:22:46.479 --> 1:22:48.799
<v Speaker 3>this time last year it was like, Wow, Kenny Pickett,

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<v Speaker 3>what a preseason. I'm feeling a little that with bow

1:22:51.320 --> 1:22:53.720
<v Speaker 3>Nix or Okay, you don't want your rookie quarterback to

1:22:53.760 --> 1:22:56.160
<v Speaker 3>look awful, and he's looked good. That's a good start,

1:22:56.160 --> 1:22:58.080
<v Speaker 3>but that's still on the road against the tough team.

1:22:58.160 --> 1:23:01.120
<v Speaker 3>McDonald's a good defensive mind. You know, people in the

1:23:01.200 --> 1:23:04.080
<v Speaker 3>league seem to respect they have good receivers throwing bon

1:23:04.160 --> 1:23:06.400
<v Speaker 3>Nicks in that environment, I think Seattle. So I haven't

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<v Speaker 3>officially played it, but that's where I'm looking. I almost

1:23:08.040 --> 1:23:09.519
<v Speaker 3>made that one of my picks, but out of respect

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<v Speaker 3>for Fez, I laid off because he took the Broncos

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<v Speaker 3>plus the six.

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<v Speaker 2>Out of respect for Fez Todd, do you have any

1:23:16.640 --> 1:23:18.360
<v Speaker 2>thoughts on this? You haven't really looked into it.

1:23:19.320 --> 1:23:21.720
<v Speaker 1>On The Survivors yet. No, I'm gonna. I'm gonna. I

1:23:21.960 --> 1:23:24.479
<v Speaker 1>think it's like obvious, like what you guys are saying. Anyways, Right,

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<v Speaker 1>you have to pick the Bengals are the Saints?

1:23:26.320 --> 1:23:30.439
<v Speaker 2>Right? I believe I have some of those.

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<v Speaker 3>I think the Bengals. Man, it's you just pick somebody

1:23:33.920 --> 1:23:36.160
<v Speaker 3>else and hope they get upset somehow. They've struggled, really,

1:23:36.280 --> 1:23:38.960
<v Speaker 3>and this trend has been discussed. They've struggled last two

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<v Speaker 3>three years. Early in the season. They've really got off

1:23:41.160 --> 1:23:42.519
<v Speaker 3>the slow starts, for whatever that's worth.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's just that the Patriots are so bad, so bad,

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<v Speaker 2>so you probably get away with it. And I believe

1:23:51.120 --> 1:23:53.559
<v Speaker 2>a Survivor again, I'm I believe in game theory, but

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<v Speaker 2>I do believe the first five weeks you probably should

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<v Speaker 2>have humility in what your convictions are and not try

1:24:01.000 --> 1:24:03.559
<v Speaker 2>to get too crazy. Just my just my opinion on that.

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<v Speaker 2>And after that you can get old frisky with the

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<v Speaker 2>game theory. Final two questions Christmas and the final two

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<v Speaker 2>questions Christmas.

1:24:10.600 --> 1:24:13.080
<v Speaker 1>By the way, the Christmas thing and the Thanksgiving thing

1:24:13.360 --> 1:24:15.960
<v Speaker 1>look extremely challenging this year because it doesn't look like

1:24:16.040 --> 1:24:20.639
<v Speaker 1>there's things. I mean, it doesn't look like they're shot

1:24:20.680 --> 1:24:23.320
<v Speaker 1>winners on those Thanksgiving games. It looks like you're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>have a hard time there.

1:24:25.360 --> 1:24:28.400
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, extremely challenging this year. I think you have to

1:24:28.520 --> 1:24:31.000
<v Speaker 2>save I had written them down. There's one team that's

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<v Speaker 2>available for both. Is that Kansas City that was available

1:24:33.720 --> 1:24:36.240
<v Speaker 2>for both Thanksgiving Christmas. By the way, what top I

1:24:36.360 --> 1:24:40.920
<v Speaker 2>was looking at the Vivor one the circus survived, Hey,

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<v Speaker 2>Thanksgiving and Christmas? Quirk to it? Okay, Final two questions

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<v Speaker 2>Question number one of the big favorites on the board,

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<v Speaker 2>and there aren't that many of them in week one

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<v Speaker 2>because they usually defined it as six and a half

1:24:58.040 --> 1:25:00.640
<v Speaker 2>point favorites are more. But of the big who is

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<v Speaker 2>the Michael the most likely to lose? Outright? The Bengals

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<v Speaker 2>eight and a half point favorites at home against the Patriots.

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<v Speaker 2>The Bills will conclude this six point favorites at home

1:25:10.439 --> 1:25:16.000
<v Speaker 2>against the Arizona Cardinals. The Seahawks teetering on a six

1:25:16.040 --> 1:25:20.320
<v Speaker 2>point favorite at home against the Broncos. Those are the

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<v Speaker 2>biggest choices on the board. Who's the most likely to

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<v Speaker 2>lose outright, Steve Seattle Seattle. That would play into his

1:25:30.320 --> 1:25:31.439
<v Speaker 2>pick from earlier. Will.

1:25:33.240 --> 1:25:36.200
<v Speaker 3>I had under Arizona last year. I watched them a lot.

1:25:36.240 --> 1:25:38.040
<v Speaker 3>I was so lucky to cash that ticket. They were

1:25:38.080 --> 1:25:40.759
<v Speaker 3>a feisty, just painting the ass team. I'll say Arizona.

1:25:40.760 --> 1:25:44.920
<v Speaker 3>I think they can move ball with Murray. I'll oh Arizona, Dotty.

1:25:46.160 --> 1:25:49.479
<v Speaker 1>I think Seahawks also because you know that Geno Smith.

1:25:49.760 --> 1:25:53.000
<v Speaker 1>You know, come on, can we stop with everyone keeps

1:25:53.080 --> 1:25:57.040
<v Speaker 1>resurrecting this guy like he Oh Geno Smith, He's better,

1:25:57.200 --> 1:26:00.519
<v Speaker 1>come on, He's still Geno Smith. Come on, all right?

1:26:00.560 --> 1:26:02.760
<v Speaker 2>So two for the Seahawks. I'm with Will. I'll say

1:26:02.760 --> 1:26:05.360
<v Speaker 2>the Bills. So two Seahawks and two Bills. And then

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<v Speaker 2>the final question, if you lived in a bizarre world,

1:26:08.280 --> 1:26:09.840
<v Speaker 2>you had to make a bet on the side on

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<v Speaker 2>each and every one of these Week one games. But

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<v Speaker 2>you've got one pass one game that you wanted no

1:26:15.360 --> 1:26:18.400
<v Speaker 2>part of, Steve, what's the game you would not touch

1:26:18.439 --> 1:26:19.200
<v Speaker 2>on the side.

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<v Speaker 4>I like to avoid four point spreads because I can't

1:26:22.840 --> 1:26:23.439
<v Speaker 4>get any help.

1:26:23.479 --> 1:26:24.439
<v Speaker 5>I can't lay three.

1:26:24.760 --> 1:26:26.120
<v Speaker 4>Who cares if I get four and a half or

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<v Speaker 4>five or LA three and a half, it's not going

1:26:28.240 --> 1:26:31.439
<v Speaker 4>to land on the number, so that the Bears Tennessee

1:26:31.479 --> 1:26:34.479
<v Speaker 4>Titans would qualify. Also, I have no idea how good

1:26:34.560 --> 1:26:36.920
<v Speaker 4>Caleb's going to be to start his career, so I

1:26:37.000 --> 1:26:38.680
<v Speaker 4>passed for both those reasons.

1:26:39.760 --> 1:26:42.200
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, there's a lot of good answers to this one

1:26:42.200 --> 1:26:42.760
<v Speaker 2>in week one.

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<v Speaker 1>Todd, Yeah, well, I mean, of course, we have no

1:26:46.680 --> 1:26:49.160
<v Speaker 1>idea what's going to be. I don't really want to.

1:26:49.320 --> 1:26:52.080
<v Speaker 1>I would just want to watch the Commanders against the Buccaneers,

1:26:52.120 --> 1:26:55.280
<v Speaker 1>because you know who is Jaden Daniels. Is he the

1:26:55.439 --> 1:26:59.680
<v Speaker 1>LSU amazing, unbelievable guy who would just go up and

1:26:59.680 --> 1:27:03.479
<v Speaker 1>down the field or you know, and the Buccaneers, you know,

1:27:04.240 --> 1:27:06.519
<v Speaker 1>I don't know. I'm still not a real big fan

1:27:06.560 --> 1:27:09.280
<v Speaker 1>of that team. So I'd really just like to watch

1:27:09.280 --> 1:27:10.559
<v Speaker 1>and see what happens in that game.

1:27:13.040 --> 1:27:16.680
<v Speaker 3>Wee Packers Eagles love. We're giving him a lot of

1:27:16.680 --> 1:27:18.840
<v Speaker 3>benefit of the doubt for the second half of last season.

1:27:18.960 --> 1:27:21.000
<v Speaker 3>He was not very good. The first half, Okay, he's

1:27:21.000 --> 1:27:23.160
<v Speaker 3>probably pretty good. And the Eagles same sort of thing.

1:27:23.439 --> 1:27:26.280
<v Speaker 3>People are very quick to forgive the second half of

1:27:26.439 --> 1:27:29.120
<v Speaker 3>last season the playoff game. They got better in the offseason,

1:27:29.160 --> 1:27:31.439
<v Speaker 3>they got Barkley, they had a good draft. Maybe, But

1:27:31.720 --> 1:27:34.559
<v Speaker 3>I just I understand the optimism for Philly, but I'm

1:27:34.560 --> 1:27:36.320
<v Speaker 3>skeptical both these teams. I don't feel like I have

1:27:36.320 --> 1:27:38.680
<v Speaker 3>a great feel for so Philly Green Bay, and that's

1:27:38.680 --> 1:27:40.479
<v Speaker 3>gonna be tough on because that's a standalone game on

1:27:40.560 --> 1:27:43.320
<v Speaker 3>Friday night, so I'll have to maybe find a prop

1:27:43.400 --> 1:27:46.839
<v Speaker 3>or something. But I don't like cider total there in Brazil.

1:27:47.000 --> 1:27:50.360
<v Speaker 2>It should be noted I'm with you, toh Buccaneers commanders

1:27:50.800 --> 1:27:53.800
<v Speaker 2>for no other reason than of a lot of games

1:27:53.840 --> 1:27:56.400
<v Speaker 2>that I have really no feel for, that's the one

1:27:56.400 --> 1:27:59.200
<v Speaker 2>that I probably have the least feel for of the bunch,

1:27:59.360 --> 1:28:01.680
<v Speaker 2>because I don't know who the who the Commodorees are

1:28:01.720 --> 1:28:03.519
<v Speaker 2>going to be, and I certainly don't know who the

1:28:03.520 --> 1:28:05.400
<v Speaker 2>Buccaneers are going to be. By the way, the NFC

1:28:05.520 --> 1:28:07.880
<v Speaker 2>South being a division where you hear some people say, oh,

1:28:07.960 --> 1:28:09.640
<v Speaker 2>I got the Bucks to win it, and then some

1:28:09.680 --> 1:28:11.400
<v Speaker 2>people say I got the bucks to finish last. So

1:28:11.439 --> 1:28:16.400
<v Speaker 2>I have no idea with that commodes bucks the game.

1:28:16.400 --> 1:28:19.040
<v Speaker 2>I want no part of gentlemen, We've done all we

1:28:19.080 --> 1:28:22.240
<v Speaker 2>can do. I believe we could have we could have

1:28:22.240 --> 1:28:25.960
<v Speaker 2>done more. Maybe perhaps Stevie hates that, that tagline that

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<v Speaker 2>I end every Numbers game with that we've done all

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<v Speaker 2>we can do. You hate that, don't you see?

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<v Speaker 5>Well, you just said we could do more.

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<v Speaker 2>Well on this podcast, I said we could do more,

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<v Speaker 2>but with the constraints of time on the constraints, with

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<v Speaker 2>the constraints of time on radio, we can't do more.

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<v Speaker 2>But here we could have done more. We gone for

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<v Speaker 2>the two hours. If you want, Stevie, I just don't

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<v Speaker 2>want to. I just don't want to do that because

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<v Speaker 2>I have something to eat. I got it.

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<v Speaker 3>I do want to say something, yes, go uh. You

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<v Speaker 3>say this all the time. I don't say it enough.

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<v Speaker 3>The VS an audience man just scumbags, not the VS

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<v Speaker 3>and audience best listeners in the game. You say it

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<v Speaker 3>all the time. I got a bunch of tweeted dms

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<v Speaker 3>the past couple of days.

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<v Speaker 1>They are the best.

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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely you are you said you were, you are humbled

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<v Speaker 2>by them, which I think is a good word.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, they are the best audience and I can only

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<v Speaker 2>speak for a numbers game audience. Also the greatest listeners.

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<v Speaker 2>It's just it's it's wonderful to get the kind of

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<v Speaker 2>feedback on this and the megapod listeners. I mean this honestly,

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<v Speaker 2>This podcast online gets tremendous response. So a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>credit to everybody.

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<v Speaker 3>Funny, loyal, smart, the best, the.

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<v Speaker 2>Best, Stevie, thank you, Steve Fick, everybody. The the only

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<v Speaker 2>back to back winner of the Hilton Super Contest. You

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<v Speaker 2>can follow him. What are you physics? Sports? Is that

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<v Speaker 2>your handle? Yes?

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<v Speaker 5>At sports? And then thanks for having me on this.

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<v Speaker 4>I I love you guys, I love your audience, love

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<v Speaker 4>everything you do. Hopefully Gilly keeps winning so I can

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<v Speaker 4>come back next year.

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<v Speaker 2>Well have you didn't we have? He owned once or

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<v Speaker 2>twice last year what.

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<v Speaker 3>It was supposed to be twice? He blew us off

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<v Speaker 3>conference title week.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it was he blew us off conference that

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<v Speaker 2>you blew us off?

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<v Speaker 1>Steve?

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<v Speaker 2>How dare you?

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<v Speaker 5>I got sick?

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<v Speaker 2>Anyway?

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<v Speaker 3>No, he had some like big somebody invited him on

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<v Speaker 3>something somewhere and he's like I got to go on that.

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<v Speaker 3>It was like Colin call or he went he got

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<v Speaker 3>some big uh.

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<v Speaker 2>That's right, well that we're going to re record. We're

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<v Speaker 2>going to rerecord Week one with somebody else. Now that

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<v Speaker 2>I that I just was reminded of that. Thank you, Steve,

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<v Speaker 2>Steve and everybody at Sports Will Hill should have bet

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<v Speaker 2>more podcasts, and Todd wish Nev at Tam wish Nev

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<v Speaker 2>always entertaining and hopefully Todd and I will do halftimes

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<v Speaker 2>as well this season. We'll see how that goes during

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<v Speaker 2>prime time games on Twitter space as thanks for listening,

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<v Speaker 2>good luck with all your Week one bets, and then

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<v Speaker 2>Ashes Football