1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:02,480 Speaker 1: Welcome to everybody to Monday edition of Texans All Access 2 00:00:02,560 --> 00:00:06,520 Speaker 1: from the Honday Texans and Radio studio. John Harris here 3 00:00:06,960 --> 00:00:10,360 Speaker 1: the voice of the Texans. Mark van Amir there, Mark, 4 00:00:11,039 --> 00:00:13,920 Speaker 1: how is your how is your Mother's Day? Weekend? Well? 5 00:00:13,960 --> 00:00:16,280 Speaker 1: I did all the requirements, Johnny, And that's that's what 6 00:00:16,320 --> 00:00:18,840 Speaker 1: it is. When you have the mother of your children 7 00:00:18,920 --> 00:00:21,560 Speaker 1: living with you, you must make sure that children take 8 00:00:21,640 --> 00:00:24,160 Speaker 1: care of her. Yes, which is what I did. By 9 00:00:24,160 --> 00:00:28,120 Speaker 1: five year old wanted to quote make breakfast, which which 10 00:00:28,160 --> 00:00:30,920 Speaker 1: meant that there were eggs on the floor and eggs 11 00:00:31,000 --> 00:00:34,400 Speaker 1: shells all over that, you know. But I helped rectify 12 00:00:34,479 --> 00:00:37,120 Speaker 1: that situation and h we got the job done. Ultimately. 13 00:00:37,200 --> 00:00:40,640 Speaker 1: Oh man, there's no telling with it. When my son 14 00:00:40,800 --> 00:00:42,559 Speaker 1: was five years old, what would have ended up in 15 00:00:42,600 --> 00:00:46,160 Speaker 1: that that breakfast. It would have gotten ugly. It would 16 00:00:46,159 --> 00:00:50,080 Speaker 1: have been like fruity pebble eggs with you know, ice cream, 17 00:00:50,200 --> 00:00:53,479 Speaker 1: nacho breakfast ships or something. It would have been. It 18 00:00:53,479 --> 00:00:56,600 Speaker 1: would have been ridiculous beam breakfast. That's what that is 19 00:00:57,080 --> 00:00:59,240 Speaker 1: in their five year old world that you look back 20 00:00:59,240 --> 00:01:02,160 Speaker 1: and go wow. But we wished every all the mothers 21 00:01:02,160 --> 00:01:04,399 Speaker 1: out there happy Mother's Day on Friday and hopefully you 22 00:01:04,400 --> 00:01:07,000 Speaker 1: guys had great weekends to speak up. Mark, there's a 23 00:01:07,160 --> 00:01:11,800 Speaker 1: ton going on that I want want to hit with you. 24 00:01:11,920 --> 00:01:14,160 Speaker 1: I'll start with Rookie Mini Camp because obviously people want 25 00:01:14,160 --> 00:01:16,440 Speaker 1: to want to know what's going on with the Texans, 26 00:01:16,440 --> 00:01:18,200 Speaker 1: and we obviously weren't able to see a whole heck 27 00:01:18,240 --> 00:01:20,240 Speaker 1: of a lot. We were kind of on the regular 28 00:01:20,240 --> 00:01:22,880 Speaker 1: season practice schedule sort of thing. It was not like 29 00:01:22,959 --> 00:01:25,639 Speaker 1: last year where we wanted to see every single rep 30 00:01:25,720 --> 00:01:29,200 Speaker 1: of everything that Deshaun Watson did. Yeah, he moved. We 31 00:01:29,240 --> 00:01:31,160 Speaker 1: wanted to talk about it a little different this year, 32 00:01:31,200 --> 00:01:33,880 Speaker 1: with no first, no second, and of course no guy 33 00:01:33,920 --> 00:01:37,400 Speaker 1: like Deshaun in this mix. But your overall impressions of 34 00:01:37,840 --> 00:01:41,840 Speaker 1: just taking in the entire weekend Friday and Saturday, getting 35 00:01:41,840 --> 00:01:43,200 Speaker 1: a chance to see these rookies. I know I had 36 00:01:43,240 --> 00:01:44,440 Speaker 1: a couple of things, and I talked to the guys 37 00:01:44,480 --> 00:01:47,680 Speaker 1: on Matt Radio this morning about that. But your overall 38 00:01:47,760 --> 00:01:51,280 Speaker 1: kind of takeaway from this Rookie Mini Camp weekend, Well, 39 00:01:51,320 --> 00:01:55,520 Speaker 1: I think that Kiki Qt just looks like he belongs. Yes, 40 00:01:55,720 --> 00:01:57,720 Speaker 1: I mean he looks like he catches the ball very well. 41 00:01:58,040 --> 00:02:00,240 Speaker 1: He looked sort of veteran like out there. I have 42 00:02:00,280 --> 00:02:02,640 Speaker 1: to say. You know, it just looked like a polished 43 00:02:03,080 --> 00:02:05,160 Speaker 1: He's a rookie, okay. And if Bill O'Brien heard me 44 00:02:05,200 --> 00:02:07,279 Speaker 1: talking like this, he'd say, Fandy, come on, he's a rookie. 45 00:02:07,280 --> 00:02:10,040 Speaker 1: What are you talking about. Don't fill him up with ideas. 46 00:02:10,400 --> 00:02:12,400 Speaker 1: But he just has that look about him, and certain 47 00:02:12,440 --> 00:02:15,000 Speaker 1: guys do have to look. And I remember when DeAndre 48 00:02:15,120 --> 00:02:18,160 Speaker 1: Hopkins had his rookie camp, he had a look about him. 49 00:02:18,800 --> 00:02:21,120 Speaker 1: I'll go back to Odrey Johnson. Andre Johnson had a 50 00:02:21,200 --> 00:02:24,560 Speaker 1: unique rookie camp because Dave Ragone was throwing him the 51 00:02:24,600 --> 00:02:28,280 Speaker 1: football and Andre had some drops and we talked about 52 00:02:28,320 --> 00:02:31,400 Speaker 1: him about this with him in studio here. I think 53 00:02:31,400 --> 00:02:33,160 Speaker 1: it was last year or whatever when he first was 54 00:02:33,200 --> 00:02:35,280 Speaker 1: announced as he was going into the Ring of Honor. 55 00:02:35,440 --> 00:02:38,760 Speaker 1: But anyway, he just had this sort of polish about 56 00:02:38,840 --> 00:02:41,440 Speaker 1: him that not a lot of rookie receivers have. So 57 00:02:41,600 --> 00:02:46,360 Speaker 1: I'm excited about him. Jordan Thomas, Oh my gosh, is 58 00:02:46,400 --> 00:02:49,200 Speaker 1: he a large individual. You've warned us, you know, he 59 00:02:49,280 --> 00:02:53,119 Speaker 1: gave us that sort of a watch out, watch out. 60 00:02:53,160 --> 00:02:56,000 Speaker 1: This guy's bigg He plays wide receiver for Mississippi State, 61 00:02:56,200 --> 00:02:58,160 Speaker 1: even though he's a tight end and they want to 62 00:02:58,200 --> 00:03:00,560 Speaker 1: improve his blocking skills. Of course, they want him to 63 00:03:00,600 --> 00:03:02,720 Speaker 1: be that kind of tightened who can also catch, and 64 00:03:02,720 --> 00:03:04,799 Speaker 1: we'll see all that works out. I don't think they'll 65 00:03:04,840 --> 00:03:07,440 Speaker 1: have any idea how he truly fits it in that 66 00:03:07,480 --> 00:03:10,240 Speaker 1: way until they get into the pads a Greenbrier, But 67 00:03:10,880 --> 00:03:13,320 Speaker 1: to see him running around catching the ball, that was 68 00:03:13,360 --> 00:03:16,000 Speaker 1: a site you could just see like he's an impressive, 69 00:03:16,120 --> 00:03:21,320 Speaker 1: imposing figure. And with the unfortunate retirement of C. J. Fiedorowitz, 70 00:03:21,560 --> 00:03:24,000 Speaker 1: now you have Jordan Thomas coming in and maybe he 71 00:03:24,000 --> 00:03:25,760 Speaker 1: can fill that role. And I don't know if you 72 00:03:25,760 --> 00:03:29,040 Speaker 1: can fill it to the degree that Fedorowitz played in 73 00:03:29,080 --> 00:03:31,760 Speaker 1: twenty sixteen, but maybe he can do something for you 74 00:03:32,000 --> 00:03:34,280 Speaker 1: and has that upside where you can continue to go 75 00:03:34,440 --> 00:03:37,680 Speaker 1: to trend upward, trend forward and take it from there. 76 00:03:38,120 --> 00:03:41,160 Speaker 1: Other guys that I thought were interesting, you know, justin Reid, 77 00:03:41,200 --> 00:03:44,640 Speaker 1: I thought handled himself really well at the podium, truly professional, 78 00:03:45,000 --> 00:03:47,360 Speaker 1: and I thought they all did for rookies. You know, 79 00:03:47,400 --> 00:03:51,120 Speaker 1: Peter Calumbai shows no fear in the system or anything. 80 00:03:51,160 --> 00:03:54,000 Speaker 1: Talked about how this system is a little bit similar 81 00:03:54,040 --> 00:03:56,040 Speaker 1: to what they ran at Stanford, and you were echoing 82 00:03:56,120 --> 00:03:59,360 Speaker 1: that with me last week. So those are some things 83 00:03:59,360 --> 00:04:01,080 Speaker 1: that just jumped out of me right away. You know, 84 00:04:01,080 --> 00:04:03,840 Speaker 1: it's interesting you brought up Jordan Thomas because that was 85 00:04:04,000 --> 00:04:07,600 Speaker 1: of all the groups of players and the individual players, etc. 86 00:04:08,600 --> 00:04:10,880 Speaker 1: When I looked down and I saw the tight ends, 87 00:04:11,560 --> 00:04:14,640 Speaker 1: and you see Giovanni Robinson, and Javanni played basketball at 88 00:04:14,680 --> 00:04:17,440 Speaker 1: NC State, Yeah, and is just kind of getting his 89 00:04:17,520 --> 00:04:19,800 Speaker 1: football sea legs under him. He was with the Pride's 90 00:04:19,839 --> 00:04:22,360 Speaker 1: in the practice squad about halfway through last year, and 91 00:04:22,440 --> 00:04:24,840 Speaker 1: so he gets an extended look. And then you're throwing 92 00:04:24,920 --> 00:04:26,680 Speaker 1: Jordan Nakins. It's a third round draft pick, and you're 93 00:04:26,680 --> 00:04:28,840 Speaker 1: throwing Jordan Thomas, and you look down here and go, 94 00:04:29,520 --> 00:04:32,920 Speaker 1: that's an impressive looking group of tight ends. And I 95 00:04:32,960 --> 00:04:35,560 Speaker 1: said that that day. It was kind of tired in 96 00:04:35,720 --> 00:04:37,320 Speaker 1: order of that day, and I said, we stop using 97 00:04:37,320 --> 00:04:40,039 Speaker 1: the word tight end for these guys, especially for Jordan Nakins, 98 00:04:40,320 --> 00:04:42,320 Speaker 1: because I don't think he's gonna be an Ironically, then 99 00:04:42,320 --> 00:04:44,120 Speaker 1: they drafted a wide receiver that's gonna play the tight 100 00:04:44,240 --> 00:04:47,839 Speaker 1: end and Jordan Thomas later on, but just the size 101 00:04:48,320 --> 00:04:51,040 Speaker 1: and how they're put together. To look at Jordan Thomas 102 00:04:51,120 --> 00:04:55,800 Speaker 1: and go that dude's two seventy two, seventy five. Wow, yeah, 103 00:04:55,960 --> 00:04:58,440 Speaker 1: I mean, and doesn't he doesn't look like it. He 104 00:04:58,520 --> 00:05:00,279 Speaker 1: doesn't look like it. I mean he looked it's like 105 00:05:00,480 --> 00:05:02,360 Speaker 1: those As I said it to the guys I'm at radio, 106 00:05:02,360 --> 00:05:05,120 Speaker 1: I said, they look like a group of small forwards 107 00:05:05,200 --> 00:05:08,720 Speaker 1: or small power forwards from basketball. I mean, it just 108 00:05:08,880 --> 00:05:12,000 Speaker 1: was an impressive looking lot that when you watch him 109 00:05:12,040 --> 00:05:13,960 Speaker 1: catch the football and you see him run routes and 110 00:05:14,000 --> 00:05:18,240 Speaker 1: you go, Okay, this is all starting to make some sense. If, 111 00:05:18,240 --> 00:05:21,360 Speaker 1: as you said, if Jordan Thomas can learn that run block, 112 00:05:21,400 --> 00:05:23,880 Speaker 1: oh my goodness, it's gonna be fun. And it's funny 113 00:05:23,920 --> 00:05:26,040 Speaker 1: because I thought about this. We did a film room now. 114 00:05:26,040 --> 00:05:27,880 Speaker 1: We did it back in January, but it was on 115 00:05:27,920 --> 00:05:31,080 Speaker 1: three sixty the other night. It's up online about Jevion Clowney. 116 00:05:31,920 --> 00:05:35,200 Speaker 1: That's gonna be the best tool for Jordan Thomas is 117 00:05:35,240 --> 00:05:38,320 Speaker 1: to face a guy like Clowney every day in training camp. 118 00:05:38,560 --> 00:05:41,880 Speaker 1: Because he's so slippery, he is so difficult to get 119 00:05:41,920 --> 00:05:44,880 Speaker 1: hands on and to block. Plus he's so strong. That's 120 00:05:44,920 --> 00:05:47,400 Speaker 1: the perfect guy. If you can block Clowney at all, 121 00:05:47,760 --> 00:05:49,920 Speaker 1: you've got an opportunity to learn that to block people 122 00:05:49,920 --> 00:05:52,320 Speaker 1: at that position very well, and if Clowney can put 123 00:05:52,320 --> 00:05:54,920 Speaker 1: on his Jatathan Joseph Had, he can help coach at 124 00:05:54,960 --> 00:05:57,440 Speaker 1: the offensive player a little bit, you know, say, hey, 125 00:05:57,480 --> 00:05:59,240 Speaker 1: this is how you handle somebody like me a little 126 00:05:59,279 --> 00:06:01,720 Speaker 1: bit better than what you're doing right now. I don't 127 00:06:01,760 --> 00:06:04,240 Speaker 1: know how eager most players are to give that kind 128 00:06:04,279 --> 00:06:06,720 Speaker 1: of info up. But Clowney right now is such a veteran, 129 00:06:07,320 --> 00:06:09,360 Speaker 1: which is weird to say, we still look at him 130 00:06:09,360 --> 00:06:11,240 Speaker 1: as the new kid, the number one overall pick two, 131 00:06:12,200 --> 00:06:15,240 Speaker 1: twenty fourteens a while ago. All right, so that's five 132 00:06:15,320 --> 00:06:17,920 Speaker 1: drafts ago. So this is a little bit of a 133 00:06:17,960 --> 00:06:20,400 Speaker 1: different situation. Maybe he can help him out. But yeah, 134 00:06:20,440 --> 00:06:22,880 Speaker 1: when you look at Thomas when some people say, oh, 135 00:06:22,960 --> 00:06:26,279 Speaker 1: he's a project, as if that's a terrible thing. All right, 136 00:06:26,320 --> 00:06:28,800 Speaker 1: So he's not coming in as the finished product. I 137 00:06:28,960 --> 00:06:31,960 Speaker 1: know this, But you mentioned Jovanni Robinson. A lot of 138 00:06:32,000 --> 00:06:34,720 Speaker 1: these tight ends who played basketball. You want to talk 139 00:06:34,760 --> 00:06:37,000 Speaker 1: about projects, that's what they are. Now. They don't all 140 00:06:37,040 --> 00:06:40,640 Speaker 1: work out, clearly, because it just doesn't happen that way. 141 00:06:40,640 --> 00:06:43,000 Speaker 1: But when you look at Antonio Gates and Marcus Pollard 142 00:06:43,000 --> 00:06:46,000 Speaker 1: and people like that who played basketball, sometimes it does 143 00:06:46,040 --> 00:06:48,599 Speaker 1: work out very well. And Thomas is beyond that, he's 144 00:06:48,600 --> 00:06:51,440 Speaker 1: an actual football player who played wide receiver as a 145 00:06:51,480 --> 00:06:54,480 Speaker 1: two hundred and seventy pounder, So you'd feel pretty good 146 00:06:54,520 --> 00:06:58,200 Speaker 1: about his knowledge of football and that he can take 147 00:06:58,320 --> 00:07:01,960 Speaker 1: less time to a similar assuming the potential and the 148 00:07:02,000 --> 00:07:04,159 Speaker 1: talent are there and the work ethic is there, because 149 00:07:04,360 --> 00:07:06,560 Speaker 1: those are the things they can check out pretty well. 150 00:07:06,960 --> 00:07:10,280 Speaker 1: And you just can't. You can't figure he's gonna be 151 00:07:10,320 --> 00:07:12,960 Speaker 1: where he is week twelve, in week one or at 152 00:07:12,960 --> 00:07:14,640 Speaker 1: the Greenbrier or whatever. This is going to be a 153 00:07:14,680 --> 00:07:18,320 Speaker 1: process for Yeah, there's no doubt. And you know, I 154 00:07:18,360 --> 00:07:21,160 Speaker 1: think back in the seventies and eighties when teams would 155 00:07:21,200 --> 00:07:26,679 Speaker 1: have five year plans, the project could extend a couple 156 00:07:26,680 --> 00:07:29,400 Speaker 1: of years. But now it is. You know, you got 157 00:07:29,400 --> 00:07:31,760 Speaker 1: to start to show some dividends early on, and I 158 00:07:31,800 --> 00:07:33,760 Speaker 1: think with this group of guys, you're gonna be able 159 00:07:33,760 --> 00:07:37,080 Speaker 1: to find out especially at especially at tight end. So 160 00:07:37,880 --> 00:07:41,280 Speaker 1: these rookies and first year players will get back with 161 00:07:41,320 --> 00:07:43,840 Speaker 1: the team and conditioning and then go out for the 162 00:07:44,040 --> 00:07:48,240 Speaker 1: first full team ota not this week but next week. 163 00:07:48,720 --> 00:07:50,880 Speaker 1: So we'll be out there on Tuesday. I believe it's 164 00:07:50,960 --> 00:07:53,760 Speaker 1: May twenty second. To give you some of the updates 165 00:07:53,760 --> 00:07:55,880 Speaker 1: from that, but don't know who's gonna do what. Don't 166 00:07:55,880 --> 00:07:58,200 Speaker 1: know how much we'll see if Witty Merciless or J. J. 167 00:07:58,360 --> 00:08:00,920 Speaker 1: Watt or Sean Watson or any guys or coming off injuries, 168 00:08:01,080 --> 00:08:02,840 Speaker 1: but we'll definitely see the free agents, which would be 169 00:08:02,920 --> 00:08:04,840 Speaker 1: kind of fun to see them in Texas jerseys and 170 00:08:04,880 --> 00:08:07,840 Speaker 1: start to visualize with the twenty eighteen team is going 171 00:08:07,920 --> 00:08:09,480 Speaker 1: to start to look like at that point. How do 172 00:08:09,480 --> 00:08:12,920 Speaker 1: you feel about Watson? Bill O'Brien has previously said he's 173 00:08:12,920 --> 00:08:15,000 Speaker 1: not gonna do everything, but he's gonna do some things. 174 00:08:15,040 --> 00:08:17,040 Speaker 1: And I know you get a lot of questions about this, 175 00:08:17,160 --> 00:08:19,200 Speaker 1: so do why. I mean, everybody would love to see 176 00:08:19,200 --> 00:08:21,760 Speaker 1: Watson full go and OTAs I think, just to know 177 00:08:21,840 --> 00:08:23,800 Speaker 1: that he's going to be able to be there, But 178 00:08:23,920 --> 00:08:27,080 Speaker 1: I'm fine with it. Just take your time here. I 179 00:08:27,160 --> 00:08:30,000 Speaker 1: don't feel like this is a must that he gets 180 00:08:30,000 --> 00:08:32,800 Speaker 1: out there and gets in sync right away. I mean, 181 00:08:32,960 --> 00:08:36,680 Speaker 1: it would be nice, but I think that the knee 182 00:08:36,720 --> 00:08:39,000 Speaker 1: is everything here. You have to keep him healthy. We 183 00:08:39,040 --> 00:08:41,319 Speaker 1: all agree on this, as long as he can hit 184 00:08:41,360 --> 00:08:43,959 Speaker 1: the ground running the first day of training camp because 185 00:08:44,000 --> 00:08:46,400 Speaker 1: I think that is important that six week and ramp 186 00:08:46,480 --> 00:08:48,520 Speaker 1: up to the regular season start. Here's what I think 187 00:08:48,520 --> 00:08:50,920 Speaker 1: he can do. I think he can do one on ones. 188 00:08:51,679 --> 00:08:54,200 Speaker 1: I think he can do seven on seven where there's 189 00:08:54,360 --> 00:08:58,200 Speaker 1: no absolutely no rush, nobody will get to him in 190 00:08:58,240 --> 00:09:00,480 Speaker 1: any way, shape or form, where he can stand in 191 00:09:00,559 --> 00:09:03,520 Speaker 1: the pocket, read deliver. Yeah, and that's it. That's all 192 00:09:03,559 --> 00:09:05,360 Speaker 1: he does. Yeah, one on one to seven on that 193 00:09:05,520 --> 00:09:08,360 Speaker 1: have to scamper away from anybody exactly because you remember, 194 00:09:08,360 --> 00:09:11,280 Speaker 1: you remember last year we're watching OTAs he would do that. 195 00:09:11,360 --> 00:09:13,520 Speaker 1: He would they would do situations and be third down 196 00:09:13,520 --> 00:09:15,880 Speaker 1: and he'd go scramble and make a play. And my 197 00:09:15,960 --> 00:09:18,760 Speaker 1: thought at the time was, they're doing this because our 198 00:09:18,800 --> 00:09:20,840 Speaker 1: guys have to adjust this because this is gonna be 199 00:09:20,880 --> 00:09:22,839 Speaker 1: our this is gonna be our new life going forward. 200 00:09:23,120 --> 00:09:24,920 Speaker 1: Then I'm third down. You better learn how to keep 201 00:09:24,920 --> 00:09:27,559 Speaker 1: a play alive as a receiver, but you need to 202 00:09:27,640 --> 00:09:29,400 Speaker 1: learn how to keep yourself about you. And so we 203 00:09:29,440 --> 00:09:30,720 Speaker 1: had to get used to that, and so they would 204 00:09:30,720 --> 00:09:32,960 Speaker 1: do some of that. I think after playing with him 205 00:09:32,960 --> 00:09:34,720 Speaker 1: a little bit, you have some of that. But I 206 00:09:34,760 --> 00:09:38,080 Speaker 1: think all team sessions need to be run. Nobody needs 207 00:09:38,120 --> 00:09:40,400 Speaker 1: to be even close to him. Now, if he does 208 00:09:40,480 --> 00:09:44,360 Speaker 1: do some of the team sessions. Then you know, I 209 00:09:44,440 --> 00:09:47,760 Speaker 1: just I just worry about that because some rookies rushing 210 00:09:47,800 --> 00:09:50,520 Speaker 1: off the edge and just trying to make a you know, 211 00:09:50,800 --> 00:09:52,640 Speaker 1: trying to make a point. He's going harder than it 212 00:09:52,679 --> 00:09:55,160 Speaker 1: should be and there's no contact. But you just know 213 00:09:55,240 --> 00:09:57,440 Speaker 1: when when you're out there and you're wearing a helmet 214 00:09:57,440 --> 00:10:00,760 Speaker 1: and guys are going hard, there's gonna be some some contact, 215 00:10:01,200 --> 00:10:03,480 Speaker 1: not by design, but just that's the way it's gonna be. 216 00:10:03,520 --> 00:10:05,800 Speaker 1: And somebody ends up at his foot, somebody ends up 217 00:10:05,840 --> 00:10:10,240 Speaker 1: like I mean, just no seven, Yeah, somebody forces him 218 00:10:10,280 --> 00:10:12,680 Speaker 1: to jump out of the way quickly, faster than he 219 00:10:12,720 --> 00:10:15,520 Speaker 1: wanted to make some sort of cut or whatever, because 220 00:10:15,559 --> 00:10:20,840 Speaker 1: that's the instinct. Just be careful, Just be careful, absolutely 221 00:10:21,040 --> 00:10:23,160 Speaker 1: all right, Mark, this this one, I want to talk 222 00:10:23,200 --> 00:10:26,640 Speaker 1: to you about this because you never really gave me 223 00:10:26,720 --> 00:10:30,840 Speaker 1: grief about this. But on Friday nights through the last 224 00:10:30,880 --> 00:10:32,839 Speaker 1: couple of years, I would spend one segment during the 225 00:10:32,880 --> 00:10:35,520 Speaker 1: season on All Access. I would I would take one 226 00:10:35,600 --> 00:10:38,280 Speaker 1: segment and I would predict all the games in the NFL, 227 00:10:38,440 --> 00:10:40,439 Speaker 1: right and I would also do it against the spread, 228 00:10:40,480 --> 00:10:42,280 Speaker 1: And to me, it was just a way to kind 229 00:10:42,320 --> 00:10:45,200 Speaker 1: of talk about the game itself and say, hey, you know, 230 00:10:45,400 --> 00:10:47,600 Speaker 1: I never had the Texans game. I never really I 231 00:10:47,640 --> 00:10:49,760 Speaker 1: never picked, but I would do all the others. And 232 00:10:50,440 --> 00:10:53,400 Speaker 1: today the United States Supreme Court ruled in favor of 233 00:10:53,440 --> 00:10:56,120 Speaker 1: the State of New Jersey as the state challenged the 234 00:10:56,160 --> 00:11:00,160 Speaker 1: federal law, the Professional Amateur Sports Protection Act. In other words, 235 00:11:00,280 --> 00:11:03,959 Speaker 1: the states are now allowed to vote on whether they 236 00:11:04,000 --> 00:11:08,840 Speaker 1: can have legalized sports gambling. How you think this impacts 237 00:11:08,840 --> 00:11:11,040 Speaker 1: the NFL and when do you think we start to 238 00:11:11,040 --> 00:11:14,040 Speaker 1: see an impact. Well, you know, there's gambling going on. Obviously, 239 00:11:14,240 --> 00:11:17,200 Speaker 1: there's legal gambling in Vegas and some other places, and 240 00:11:17,240 --> 00:11:19,960 Speaker 1: then there's the illegal gambling, and there are you know, 241 00:11:20,040 --> 00:11:23,160 Speaker 1: worksheets and things like that that are sort of innocent 242 00:11:23,240 --> 00:11:27,439 Speaker 1: fun and ten. You know, then you start thinking about 243 00:11:27,480 --> 00:11:29,600 Speaker 1: the reporting of these things, because you already have this 244 00:11:29,640 --> 00:11:32,360 Speaker 1: in Vegas. When when you have a sporting event and 245 00:11:32,400 --> 00:11:36,080 Speaker 1: there's some sort of shift in the line or something 246 00:11:36,160 --> 00:11:39,280 Speaker 1: happens to with an upset and then there's a report 247 00:11:39,320 --> 00:11:42,920 Speaker 1: on how much money changed hands or whatever, or Vegas 248 00:11:43,000 --> 00:11:45,880 Speaker 1: was out x on this deal, Well that would be 249 00:11:45,960 --> 00:11:48,200 Speaker 1: a lot more prevalent, wouldn't it. If you had twenty 250 00:11:48,200 --> 00:11:52,400 Speaker 1: five states with supported sports gambling. And you know, the 251 00:11:52,440 --> 00:11:54,040 Speaker 1: league doesn't want it because they don't want to be 252 00:11:54,080 --> 00:11:57,520 Speaker 1: about gambling, right because the worst case is it infects 253 00:11:57,559 --> 00:12:00,520 Speaker 1: what's actually going on the field direct lee, which is 254 00:12:00,559 --> 00:12:03,840 Speaker 1: a nightmare scenario for everybody. It's happened in sports before. 255 00:12:04,160 --> 00:12:05,920 Speaker 1: So I think when you look at it that way, 256 00:12:06,120 --> 00:12:08,559 Speaker 1: it's pretty interesting to me. What kind of effect it's 257 00:12:08,559 --> 00:12:12,280 Speaker 1: gonna have. You're gonna have to monitor it very carefully. 258 00:12:12,320 --> 00:12:15,720 Speaker 1: Now it's professional sports. Players are compensating to start wondering 259 00:12:15,760 --> 00:12:19,160 Speaker 1: about officiating. And it's not just the NFL. It's all 260 00:12:19,200 --> 00:12:22,280 Speaker 1: professional sports, I mean and college sports. Yeah, it's and 261 00:12:22,280 --> 00:12:23,960 Speaker 1: there are plenty of That's the one that I worry 262 00:12:24,000 --> 00:12:26,720 Speaker 1: about because back in the day, NFL players didn't make 263 00:12:26,720 --> 00:12:29,920 Speaker 1: a whole lot of money. So if somebody from that 264 00:12:30,000 --> 00:12:31,400 Speaker 1: side of life came to them and said, hey, we'll 265 00:12:31,440 --> 00:12:33,960 Speaker 1: give you fifteen thousand dollars the number they make per year, 266 00:12:33,960 --> 00:12:36,000 Speaker 1: it's two commas in this thing. So at that point, 267 00:12:36,040 --> 00:12:37,640 Speaker 1: I don't think it's the players per se. But you 268 00:12:37,640 --> 00:12:39,960 Speaker 1: bring up a great point, but officiating, those guys don't 269 00:12:39,960 --> 00:12:41,560 Speaker 1: make a ton of money. You know, those kind of 270 00:12:41,559 --> 00:12:43,440 Speaker 1: things that you're gonna have to really look at. I 271 00:12:43,440 --> 00:12:45,520 Speaker 1: think from our perspective, Like I said, I do that 272 00:12:45,600 --> 00:12:47,640 Speaker 1: segment I talk about I talk about it as a 273 00:12:47,679 --> 00:12:50,800 Speaker 1: way of just talking about the game. But is that 274 00:12:50,880 --> 00:12:53,440 Speaker 1: going to become more prevalent? Are we gonna be are 275 00:12:53,440 --> 00:12:56,800 Speaker 1: we gonna have You know, Brent Musburger stopped doing ESPN 276 00:12:56,840 --> 00:12:59,720 Speaker 1: games so he could work full time out Las Vegas 277 00:13:00,040 --> 00:13:03,439 Speaker 1: doing podcasts talking about gambling per se. I'm curious how 278 00:13:03,480 --> 00:13:07,240 Speaker 1: that impacts our world of reporting in media and how 279 00:13:07,320 --> 00:13:10,840 Speaker 1: much gambling actually gets talked about more as opposed to well, 280 00:13:10,840 --> 00:13:12,440 Speaker 1: we didn't talk about it because it wasn't legal. Well 281 00:13:12,480 --> 00:13:14,160 Speaker 1: now it's legal. Are we gonna talk about it? I mean, 282 00:13:14,160 --> 00:13:15,959 Speaker 1: I think that's gonna be a fascinating discussion for the 283 00:13:16,000 --> 00:13:18,360 Speaker 1: next few years, not just for us, but for all 284 00:13:18,440 --> 00:13:21,160 Speaker 1: sports media out there. Well, you talk about fantasy aspects 285 00:13:21,160 --> 00:13:25,280 Speaker 1: of sports, but very often that's not great talk for 286 00:13:25,559 --> 00:13:28,760 Speaker 1: the average right Right. If I happen to have DeAndre 287 00:13:28,880 --> 00:13:31,240 Speaker 1: Hopkins on my team, then yeah, I kind of want 288 00:13:31,280 --> 00:13:33,520 Speaker 1: to know how DeAndre is gonna do. But do I 289 00:13:33,640 --> 00:13:36,240 Speaker 1: really I don't know. To me, fantasy football has always 290 00:13:36,240 --> 00:13:39,480 Speaker 1: been fun to do, more of a participation thing than 291 00:13:39,960 --> 00:13:42,280 Speaker 1: an observer thing. Like I don't care what other I 292 00:13:42,280 --> 00:13:45,640 Speaker 1: don't care what your team's doing, no offense unless we're 293 00:13:45,679 --> 00:13:47,960 Speaker 1: squared off against each other, So then you go the 294 00:13:48,000 --> 00:13:51,880 Speaker 1: gambling it all right. So if the Texans are nine 295 00:13:51,920 --> 00:13:55,360 Speaker 1: point underdogs, the conversation is not only can they win, 296 00:13:55,600 --> 00:13:58,200 Speaker 1: how about can they cover guys? Can they cover this week? 297 00:13:58,520 --> 00:14:02,080 Speaker 1: Do we become like that? I don't think so. I 298 00:14:02,080 --> 00:14:04,320 Speaker 1: don't think that that's interesting enough. Yeah, I think they 299 00:14:04,320 --> 00:14:06,800 Speaker 1: can keep it close, but I think that sort of 300 00:14:07,320 --> 00:14:10,720 Speaker 1: and I know it's a good pointed here, but I 301 00:14:10,800 --> 00:14:14,720 Speaker 1: think that we almost talk like that already sometimes, Like 302 00:14:15,120 --> 00:14:16,679 Speaker 1: I think it's gonna be a close game in the 303 00:14:16,800 --> 00:14:19,360 Speaker 1: in the fourth quarter, it's a field goal game. Well, 304 00:14:19,440 --> 00:14:21,680 Speaker 1: if it's a seven point margin, then you get the drift. 305 00:14:21,960 --> 00:14:24,040 Speaker 1: We think they're going to cover. Whoever the underdog is 306 00:14:24,120 --> 00:14:25,800 Speaker 1: is going to cover. But we're not saying it for 307 00:14:25,800 --> 00:14:28,400 Speaker 1: that reason either. Gosh, Johnny, I don't have all the 308 00:14:28,440 --> 00:14:31,280 Speaker 1: answers to this. I think it can't help but bleed 309 00:14:31,320 --> 00:14:33,800 Speaker 1: through in some of the conversation. At the very least, 310 00:14:33,840 --> 00:14:36,040 Speaker 1: it's going to No, it's a great it's a great 311 00:14:36,080 --> 00:14:39,840 Speaker 1: comparison to fantasy football too. You're You're absolutely right, because 312 00:14:39,840 --> 00:14:41,800 Speaker 1: I think fantasy football has helped a lot of casual 313 00:14:41,840 --> 00:14:45,400 Speaker 1: fans get to the game and understand the game. I 314 00:14:45,440 --> 00:14:49,440 Speaker 1: think this may do it for certain certain portions of fans. Yeah, 315 00:14:49,480 --> 00:14:52,920 Speaker 1: but I read lives and look at lines. I don't 316 00:14:52,920 --> 00:14:54,800 Speaker 1: know if I'd want to listen to a gambling segment 317 00:14:54,840 --> 00:14:58,080 Speaker 1: the entire you know, multiple segments. Well, think about let's 318 00:14:58,080 --> 00:15:00,000 Speaker 1: think about Sports Radio sixteen. How many of those guys 319 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:02,800 Speaker 1: do gambling segments anymore? Fifteen years ago, we all did 320 00:15:02,800 --> 00:15:06,200 Speaker 1: gambling segments. Everybody did. Everybody did. Now you're doing one 321 00:15:06,200 --> 00:15:09,040 Speaker 1: on Friday night, like not really gambling, but you're predicting games, 322 00:15:09,040 --> 00:15:10,960 Speaker 1: which has an actual you know, here's the outcome of 323 00:15:11,000 --> 00:15:13,080 Speaker 1: the game. We used to you know, some of the 324 00:15:13,080 --> 00:15:16,560 Speaker 1: Phil Steel stuff and those kinds of guys. We used 325 00:15:16,560 --> 00:15:19,440 Speaker 1: to talk to those guys all the time. And I 326 00:15:19,480 --> 00:15:22,320 Speaker 1: just don't think it's a thing anymore, because you know, 327 00:15:22,400 --> 00:15:25,160 Speaker 1: you have the Internet and everything. I think opinions matter 328 00:15:25,320 --> 00:15:27,400 Speaker 1: more than that sort of thing. I tend to agree 329 00:15:27,400 --> 00:15:29,600 Speaker 1: with you on that, Mark, appreciate it, Thanks Johnny. Coming 330 00:15:29,680 --> 00:15:32,520 Speaker 1: up next, Drew Dohrty stops by. We'll talk about what 331 00:15:32,720 --> 00:15:36,360 Speaker 1: he saw from a certain receiver from Texas Tech this 332 00:15:36,400 --> 00:15:39,080 Speaker 1: weekend in Rookie Muny Camper. Right back right here in Texas, Axas. 333 00:15:39,200 --> 00:15:41,120 Speaker 1: What's going on? Everybody? Welcome back to a Monday edition 334 00:15:41,200 --> 00:15:45,160 Speaker 1: of Texas All Access from Monday Texans Radios Studio, John Harris, 335 00:15:45,200 --> 00:15:47,960 Speaker 1: Football Anas and salary reporter. You're hooks this evening. Joining 336 00:15:48,000 --> 00:15:50,880 Speaker 1: me right now is my man, Drew Dorty. What's drop. 337 00:15:51,680 --> 00:15:54,160 Speaker 1: I'm great man. Happy Mother's Day to you, Happy Mother's 338 00:15:54,240 --> 00:15:56,280 Speaker 1: Day to all the mother mentioned that Mark and I 339 00:15:56,320 --> 00:15:58,760 Speaker 1: did on Monday Friday to make sure that we got 340 00:15:58,760 --> 00:16:02,280 Speaker 1: it in before Mother's Day. But I want to make 341 00:16:02,320 --> 00:16:04,800 Speaker 1: sure that all the mothers out there had a tremendous weekend. 342 00:16:04,800 --> 00:16:06,160 Speaker 1: I know we had a pretty good weekend in the 343 00:16:06,200 --> 00:16:08,080 Speaker 1: Harris household, so it was good. It was good. Glad. 344 00:16:08,080 --> 00:16:10,400 Speaker 1: I'm glad to hear it for a Dorty household. Awesome. 345 00:16:10,440 --> 00:16:12,800 Speaker 1: We um. You know, we got a baby come in 346 00:16:12,840 --> 00:16:16,440 Speaker 1: May twenty fourth, and our twins are going to be 347 00:16:16,440 --> 00:16:19,080 Speaker 1: five on May twenty ninth, so I don't think my 348 00:16:19,120 --> 00:16:20,320 Speaker 1: wife is going to be really in the mood to 349 00:16:20,360 --> 00:16:22,320 Speaker 1: do birthday party a few days after the baby's morning 350 00:16:22,800 --> 00:16:25,640 Speaker 1: this Saturday. We did last Saturday, like two days ago, 351 00:16:26,040 --> 00:16:28,680 Speaker 1: and it was good man. We we were out to 352 00:16:28,720 --> 00:16:34,080 Speaker 1: dinner Saturday night and we've just seen a movie. It's 353 00:16:34,080 --> 00:16:36,320 Speaker 1: just kind of interesting because we can go see movies 354 00:16:36,320 --> 00:16:39,840 Speaker 1: together now because everybody's over thirteen. So weekend write TPG third, 355 00:16:40,000 --> 00:16:42,360 Speaker 1: not that that's ever. So the four of you. The family, Yeah, 356 00:16:42,400 --> 00:16:44,560 Speaker 1: the family. Oh, I have two kids. And we saw 357 00:16:44,640 --> 00:16:47,560 Speaker 1: the Muslim McCarthy movie and it's hilarious. Yeah, I thought 358 00:16:47,600 --> 00:16:49,520 Speaker 1: I thought it was some people are gonna just whatever. 359 00:16:49,840 --> 00:16:52,320 Speaker 1: Side note. Just heard a really good podcast with her 360 00:16:52,320 --> 00:16:55,120 Speaker 1: on it. I'd never really listened to her talk about 361 00:16:55,120 --> 00:16:59,200 Speaker 1: herself much. Very likable lady who shall with Mark Marrin. 362 00:16:59,320 --> 00:17:02,320 Speaker 1: Oh great, he's got a great podcast. I listened to 363 00:17:02,440 --> 00:17:05,160 Speaker 1: Jony Hill podcast. This was probably two three years maybe 364 00:17:05,160 --> 00:17:08,240 Speaker 1: a while back, and I didn't really know about it. 365 00:17:08,280 --> 00:17:10,520 Speaker 1: I just started listening to it and I was on 366 00:17:10,600 --> 00:17:12,200 Speaker 1: a long driving trip. So this is a while back, 367 00:17:12,200 --> 00:17:14,760 Speaker 1: probably four or five years ago, and I listened whole things. 368 00:17:14,760 --> 00:17:16,760 Speaker 1: I was like, this is fascinating. He did a really 369 00:17:16,800 --> 00:17:18,800 Speaker 1: good one with Drew Carey last week. And I didn't 370 00:17:18,800 --> 00:17:21,680 Speaker 1: really know much about Drew Carey, you know his background. 371 00:17:21,680 --> 00:17:25,560 Speaker 1: That's a fascinating dude. To Mark Marin, is the is 372 00:17:25,600 --> 00:17:28,960 Speaker 1: the podcast equivalent of the deep Slant interview because he 373 00:17:29,000 --> 00:17:32,240 Speaker 1: gets these he gets these people to talk about things 374 00:17:32,240 --> 00:17:35,800 Speaker 1: that I only I've heard Deep City dude like deps 375 00:17:35,920 --> 00:17:37,879 Speaker 1: can get players to talk about things. You know what, 376 00:17:37,920 --> 00:17:39,680 Speaker 1: I'm gonna call him. I want to call him the 377 00:17:39,720 --> 00:17:44,320 Speaker 1: Babe Ruth of podcasting. Okay, I think he's the best 378 00:17:44,320 --> 00:17:46,000 Speaker 1: one out there. I do too. I think he's very 379 00:17:46,080 --> 00:17:48,800 Speaker 1: very good, whether sports or otherwise, it doesn't matter. He's 380 00:17:48,840 --> 00:17:52,040 Speaker 1: I think he's excellent. And when he has people who 381 00:17:52,080 --> 00:17:54,800 Speaker 1: have been on Saturday Night Live on because that's oh, 382 00:17:54,880 --> 00:17:59,120 Speaker 1: I'm not hurting any other Yeah, oh they're He had 383 00:18:00,240 --> 00:18:03,280 Speaker 1: he had a guy cast members not guess, yeah, he 384 00:18:03,320 --> 00:18:07,600 Speaker 1: had a guy I'm trying to remember who who Gosh, 385 00:18:07,760 --> 00:18:11,760 Speaker 1: I'm trying to remember he had Oh, I can't remember 386 00:18:11,800 --> 00:18:13,960 Speaker 1: his name now. And I listened to that podcast too, 387 00:18:13,960 --> 00:18:16,040 Speaker 1: and I was like, man, this is really good. It 388 00:18:16,040 --> 00:18:18,400 Speaker 1: needs to be on my my recurring podcast. I gotta 389 00:18:18,800 --> 00:18:21,240 Speaker 1: because I mostly have a few sports ones. But Mark 390 00:18:21,280 --> 00:18:23,800 Speaker 1: Marin very very good. And so I'm listening to Carthy 391 00:18:23,960 --> 00:18:27,600 Speaker 1: was on that podcast. I just hijacked your story. That's 392 00:18:27,680 --> 00:18:30,480 Speaker 1: not it's totally fine. Um, But anyway, we were out, 393 00:18:30,680 --> 00:18:32,760 Speaker 1: We were out to after the movie. We were out 394 00:18:32,760 --> 00:18:35,919 Speaker 1: for dinner, and I happened to see a family and 395 00:18:36,119 --> 00:18:41,000 Speaker 1: they had a baby, and I remember thinking, man, I'm 396 00:18:41,040 --> 00:18:43,120 Speaker 1: glad I don't have to go through that with with 397 00:18:43,119 --> 00:18:46,359 Speaker 1: with anymore, not that you know, look, we had a baby. 398 00:18:46,359 --> 00:18:48,400 Speaker 1: I mean I would be, you know, all into it. 399 00:18:48,440 --> 00:18:51,200 Speaker 1: But babies, I found, are easier to take to a 400 00:18:51,280 --> 00:18:56,240 Speaker 1: dinner at a restaurant, yeah than where I am right now. Yeah. Yeah, 401 00:18:56,560 --> 00:18:58,240 Speaker 1: five year olds and a three year old. We made 402 00:18:58,240 --> 00:19:01,440 Speaker 1: a mistake of getting a corner booth and we were 403 00:19:01,520 --> 00:19:03,640 Speaker 1: on the ends. That meant that they three were next 404 00:19:03,640 --> 00:19:07,800 Speaker 1: to each other. That was like, hey, let's shake up 405 00:19:08,080 --> 00:19:11,960 Speaker 1: the baking soda and the vinegar in a two liter bottle. Now, 406 00:19:12,320 --> 00:19:14,240 Speaker 1: let's put the mentos in the diet code. Yeah. It 407 00:19:14,280 --> 00:19:18,520 Speaker 1: was Man's And it was just interesting because I've always 408 00:19:18,560 --> 00:19:20,719 Speaker 1: I remember when I was when the kids were growing up. 409 00:19:20,840 --> 00:19:23,040 Speaker 1: I used to think, because I taught in high school 410 00:19:23,040 --> 00:19:24,920 Speaker 1: for a long time, and I used to think, Man, 411 00:19:24,960 --> 00:19:27,439 Speaker 1: I can handle the kids that are the juniors and 412 00:19:27,480 --> 00:19:30,119 Speaker 1: seniors because I can talk to them about Yeah, you know, 413 00:19:30,200 --> 00:19:32,880 Speaker 1: I could talk to them. Start talking to seven year 414 00:19:32,880 --> 00:19:35,080 Speaker 1: old and eight year old, and it's like, yeah, and 415 00:19:35,200 --> 00:19:37,119 Speaker 1: now my kids are at that age. They're sweet, but 416 00:19:37,119 --> 00:19:40,399 Speaker 1: it's just like their tension span is that of a gnat, 417 00:19:40,920 --> 00:19:42,199 Speaker 1: and we don't want to we don't want to just 418 00:19:42,240 --> 00:19:45,320 Speaker 1: hand over an iPad or a phone and have them 419 00:19:45,320 --> 00:19:48,200 Speaker 1: become zombies. So that's a trade off. But and they 420 00:19:48,200 --> 00:19:50,280 Speaker 1: didn't hurt anything or hurt anybody. But it's just like 421 00:19:50,640 --> 00:19:52,919 Speaker 1: you can't. You're always putting out a there's a mild 422 00:19:53,040 --> 00:19:55,200 Speaker 1: fire that you're putting out. You're trying to shovel in 423 00:19:55,280 --> 00:19:57,280 Speaker 1: your food as fast as you can because you just 424 00:19:57,320 --> 00:19:59,359 Speaker 1: want to get out of there before something gets burned 425 00:19:59,440 --> 00:20:01,440 Speaker 1: or spilled or both. I remember when my when I 426 00:20:01,560 --> 00:20:04,160 Speaker 1: were younger. Um, I'm glad we're starting to show this way, 427 00:20:04,160 --> 00:20:06,080 Speaker 1: but that's just the way it's gonna be today. When 428 00:20:06,080 --> 00:20:08,480 Speaker 1: we were younger, I don't these idiots talk about football. 429 00:20:08,520 --> 00:20:11,720 Speaker 1: That's why I'm listening. We've given you podcasts to listen 430 00:20:11,720 --> 00:20:13,919 Speaker 1: to when you're when you're younger. We were when my 431 00:20:13,960 --> 00:20:16,440 Speaker 1: kids were younger. One of them would fall asleep and 432 00:20:16,680 --> 00:20:19,240 Speaker 1: literally we would just we would do the same thing. 433 00:20:19,840 --> 00:20:22,920 Speaker 1: We would just eat really really fast, so we would 434 00:20:22,960 --> 00:20:24,400 Speaker 1: kind of because we didn't know how much how much 435 00:20:24,400 --> 00:20:26,199 Speaker 1: time we'd have was like ticking time bombs, like how 436 00:20:26,240 --> 00:20:28,800 Speaker 1: much time we have keep keep doing a dessert. Uh, 437 00:20:28,800 --> 00:20:30,359 Speaker 1: well he's gonna wake Yeah, okay, come on, come on, 438 00:20:30,440 --> 00:20:33,280 Speaker 1: let's have the dessert. Okay, okay, now we can slow down. 439 00:20:33,320 --> 00:20:34,800 Speaker 1: We're done with dinner. We could slow down a little 440 00:20:34,800 --> 00:20:36,640 Speaker 1: bit because he wakes up. Now you know we're good. 441 00:20:36,680 --> 00:20:39,760 Speaker 1: But either way, Uh, great podcast, Mark mayn great podcast 442 00:20:39,840 --> 00:20:42,359 Speaker 1: in the Lab something you need to definitely listen to. 443 00:20:42,440 --> 00:20:44,600 Speaker 1: Drew and I did, uh and in the Lab podcast 444 00:20:44,880 --> 00:20:48,760 Speaker 1: podcast start ever we did. We have done this on 445 00:20:48,880 --> 00:20:51,280 Speaker 1: a number of different things, and we like the draft things. 446 00:20:51,359 --> 00:20:54,159 Speaker 1: That's something that I don't know. That's my sickness that 447 00:20:54,200 --> 00:20:56,320 Speaker 1: has worn off on everybody here. I'd love to draft things. 448 00:20:56,320 --> 00:21:00,719 Speaker 1: And so last week we drafted our all time NFL 449 00:21:00,840 --> 00:21:04,360 Speaker 1: defense from players that played at Texas University. And yeah, 450 00:21:04,359 --> 00:21:07,840 Speaker 1: and to be forthright about this, you and I did 451 00:21:07,880 --> 00:21:09,280 Speaker 1: not come up with this on our own. It was 452 00:21:09,359 --> 00:21:11,200 Speaker 1: it was actually a listener, yeah, and I can't remember 453 00:21:11,200 --> 00:21:14,800 Speaker 1: which one, but we did. And it was such a 454 00:21:14,840 --> 00:21:17,520 Speaker 1: great idea and maybe we would have meandered to that eventually, 455 00:21:17,560 --> 00:21:21,800 Speaker 1: but tremendous idea, not the best Texas college football defense 456 00:21:21,880 --> 00:21:24,520 Speaker 1: of all time, because then you got to put Wilson Whitley. 457 00:21:25,600 --> 00:21:28,120 Speaker 1: But guys who made it in the NFL played at 458 00:21:28,119 --> 00:21:31,439 Speaker 1: Texas colle because Wilson Whitley had a solid career in 459 00:21:31,440 --> 00:21:34,160 Speaker 1: the NFL. But it wasn't a star. He wasn't Bob 460 00:21:34,200 --> 00:21:36,520 Speaker 1: Lillian Joe Green. No, those are the guys that we 461 00:21:36,600 --> 00:21:39,720 Speaker 1: drafted as defensive lineman and and we made a huge 462 00:21:39,720 --> 00:21:42,600 Speaker 1: omission that we were just really at least I was 463 00:21:42,680 --> 00:21:44,840 Speaker 1: mad that I forgot to draft this guy. I don't 464 00:21:44,840 --> 00:21:46,440 Speaker 1: know that he would have been high. I mean if 465 00:21:46,440 --> 00:21:48,639 Speaker 1: i'd if I'd realized who I would have had him, 466 00:21:48,640 --> 00:21:50,199 Speaker 1: I would have picked him. I mean I would have 467 00:21:50,200 --> 00:21:52,720 Speaker 1: picked him over I would have picked Harvey Martin, former 468 00:21:52,760 --> 00:21:55,680 Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboy, should be in their ring of honor. I 469 00:21:55,680 --> 00:22:00,359 Speaker 1: should believe. I believe he he had the cow Boys 470 00:22:00,359 --> 00:22:04,119 Speaker 1: sack record if they'd kept sacks until DeMarcus Ware broke it, 471 00:22:04,160 --> 00:22:05,480 Speaker 1: maybe and he still might have it. I don't know, 472 00:22:05,920 --> 00:22:08,679 Speaker 1: but he's probably have Hall of Fame consideration too. He 473 00:22:08,720 --> 00:22:11,280 Speaker 1: was he was a great defensive end. Co MVP of 474 00:22:11,400 --> 00:22:14,520 Speaker 1: Super Bowl twelve Randy White, but he played at East 475 00:22:14,520 --> 00:22:17,920 Speaker 1: Texas state, and I forgot about that. It's Texas a 476 00:22:18,080 --> 00:22:19,760 Speaker 1: m commerce now and since he's not in the Hall 477 00:22:19,760 --> 00:22:21,800 Speaker 1: of Fame, that's where I started. I just went to 478 00:22:21,840 --> 00:22:23,919 Speaker 1: the Hall of Fame website of Texas Colleges and I mean, 479 00:22:24,040 --> 00:22:26,439 Speaker 1: I set my draft. That's interesting how you did that, 480 00:22:26,440 --> 00:22:30,080 Speaker 1: because I went to draft hisstory dot com and the 481 00:22:30,520 --> 00:22:32,440 Speaker 1: shame in that is actually one of the guys that 482 00:22:32,440 --> 00:22:36,680 Speaker 1: I ended up drafting a Hall of Famer was John Randall. Yeah, 483 00:22:36,760 --> 00:22:39,359 Speaker 1: And it wasn't until it wasn't until when I was 484 00:22:39,400 --> 00:22:42,880 Speaker 1: doing my list and I did Darryl Green, he's Texasy 485 00:22:42,880 --> 00:22:45,119 Speaker 1: and I He's Texasy and I who They pumped out 486 00:22:45,160 --> 00:22:47,920 Speaker 1: a lot, right, And it was after that would wait 487 00:22:47,960 --> 00:22:50,080 Speaker 1: Texas say, and I wait a second, John Randall with 488 00:22:50,080 --> 00:22:51,679 Speaker 1: the Texas say and I and I didn't even have 489 00:22:51,760 --> 00:22:54,199 Speaker 1: him on my board, and then Texas saying, and I 490 00:22:54,240 --> 00:22:55,959 Speaker 1: got brought up as we were talking. I was like, 491 00:22:56,000 --> 00:22:58,119 Speaker 1: I know what I'm doing, and it just fit perfectly 492 00:22:58,119 --> 00:22:59,480 Speaker 1: because I mean Joe Green. So I went me and 493 00:22:59,560 --> 00:23:03,280 Speaker 1: Joe Green, John Randalls. So it's a fun exercise that said, 494 00:23:03,280 --> 00:23:08,520 Speaker 1: we will be doing the offensive side of the ball, right, 495 00:23:09,080 --> 00:23:14,000 Speaker 1: and again it is NFL career for players I played 496 00:23:14,040 --> 00:23:16,480 Speaker 1: Texas Universities. Yeah, so even though I would love to 497 00:23:16,560 --> 00:23:21,080 Speaker 1: draft our buddy Andre Ware, there are some pretty healthy 498 00:23:21,280 --> 00:23:23,919 Speaker 1: quarterbacks that had great careers. I played Texas University, or 499 00:23:23,960 --> 00:23:26,639 Speaker 1: Johnny Manziel. If you really right, can't put Johnny you could, 500 00:23:26,720 --> 00:23:28,880 Speaker 1: you could make him the quarterback your d could. But 501 00:23:28,960 --> 00:23:31,240 Speaker 1: I think it's based on your NFL career after having 502 00:23:31,280 --> 00:23:33,720 Speaker 1: played at Texas University. So at that point, guy like 503 00:23:33,760 --> 00:23:37,720 Speaker 1: Bobby lane Is is huge. You really kind of have 504 00:23:37,800 --> 00:23:40,320 Speaker 1: to go way back for the quarterback position. I know, 505 00:23:41,200 --> 00:23:43,879 Speaker 1: I think quarterback will be tough. Running back easy. You 506 00:23:44,240 --> 00:23:46,320 Speaker 1: single wing. I might go single wing. You have three 507 00:23:46,440 --> 00:23:49,399 Speaker 1: running backs back, someone's gonna throw. You know my draft strategy, 508 00:23:49,760 --> 00:23:51,800 Speaker 1: I'm not picking a running back till late. I don't 509 00:23:51,800 --> 00:23:56,119 Speaker 1: need to. Well it's true for running back, well, I 510 00:23:56,200 --> 00:23:58,879 Speaker 1: might do that. But that's that's the thing about the 511 00:23:58,960 --> 00:24:02,320 Speaker 1: draft too. That's why when I think when we look back, 512 00:24:02,320 --> 00:24:03,960 Speaker 1: we're gonna when we look back in the twenty eighteen 513 00:24:04,040 --> 00:24:06,639 Speaker 1: draft tree, we're gonna look at the Giants taking sa 514 00:24:06,720 --> 00:24:08,720 Speaker 1: Quon Barkley and think that's a good pick. It's a 515 00:24:08,720 --> 00:24:11,399 Speaker 1: really good pick, but he's the fourth or fifth highest 516 00:24:11,400 --> 00:24:13,800 Speaker 1: paid running back in the league hasn't even I mean, 517 00:24:13,840 --> 00:24:15,800 Speaker 1: he barely set foot in the Giants building. And I 518 00:24:15,800 --> 00:24:19,359 Speaker 1: think it's for that particular reason that do you take 519 00:24:19,520 --> 00:24:22,160 Speaker 1: And again, it's a running back, And yes, I get 520 00:24:22,160 --> 00:24:26,720 Speaker 1: that Saquon Barkley is special. I understand all of that. 521 00:24:27,119 --> 00:24:30,560 Speaker 1: My rashnalists, there's so many great Texas running backs. Well, 522 00:24:30,560 --> 00:24:33,119 Speaker 1: that's that's my point though. That's my point though that 523 00:24:33,160 --> 00:24:36,000 Speaker 1: if the Giants missed out on sa Quon Barkley, they 524 00:24:36,040 --> 00:24:40,720 Speaker 1: could have gotten Bradley Chubb and Nick Chubb. They could 525 00:24:40,720 --> 00:24:45,040 Speaker 1: have gotten Bradley Chubb at two and then Sony Michelle 526 00:24:45,080 --> 00:24:47,160 Speaker 1: that Sony would have been gone by then they could 527 00:24:47,200 --> 00:24:49,840 Speaker 1: have gotten uh, you know, Sony. They could have gotten 528 00:24:49,840 --> 00:24:54,000 Speaker 1: Bradley Chubb and carry on Johnson as opposed to getting 529 00:24:54,240 --> 00:24:57,480 Speaker 1: Sae Kwon Barkley and then really nobody that can play 530 00:24:57,480 --> 00:25:01,040 Speaker 1: the Jason Pierre Paw position, which is a pre position. 531 00:25:01,400 --> 00:25:03,399 Speaker 1: And because there were so many running backs in this 532 00:25:03,520 --> 00:25:05,840 Speaker 1: draft that have the opportunity I think to be really 533 00:25:05,920 --> 00:25:08,840 Speaker 1: good running backs, you could have satisfied the one position 534 00:25:08,880 --> 00:25:11,960 Speaker 1: where there weren't a lot of players as at a 535 00:25:12,040 --> 00:25:14,440 Speaker 1: premium position, that being a pass rusher, and they chose 536 00:25:14,680 --> 00:25:16,520 Speaker 1: not to do that, So it'd be interesting to see 537 00:25:16,520 --> 00:25:18,200 Speaker 1: how that pans out. I do think that running backs 538 00:25:18,200 --> 00:25:20,760 Speaker 1: have increased in value over the years, But to your 539 00:25:20,760 --> 00:25:27,000 Speaker 1: point about drafting premium positions, especially when there's a dearth 540 00:25:27,040 --> 00:25:30,159 Speaker 1: of talent at that particular position that was seemingly of 541 00:25:30,200 --> 00:25:32,000 Speaker 1: the draft, that will not be the case in our 542 00:25:32,000 --> 00:25:34,760 Speaker 1: podcast when the running backs that came from Texas universities, right, 543 00:25:35,119 --> 00:25:37,679 Speaker 1: WoT of talent? Wow, Now it's gonna be a game 544 00:25:37,720 --> 00:25:40,440 Speaker 1: of chicken who ends up going after the first one. 545 00:25:40,520 --> 00:25:42,560 Speaker 1: But it's gonna be really kind of a matter of 546 00:25:42,600 --> 00:25:45,520 Speaker 1: taste in some sense. I know my strategy right now. 547 00:25:45,520 --> 00:25:46,760 Speaker 1: I know where I'm I know how I'm going. It's 548 00:25:47,480 --> 00:25:49,320 Speaker 1: like I like that you have your strategy. And I 549 00:25:49,640 --> 00:25:51,800 Speaker 1: worked this out last week, like textually a week and 550 00:25:51,840 --> 00:25:53,600 Speaker 1: a half ago before we even did the defensive one, 551 00:25:53,640 --> 00:25:55,400 Speaker 1: because I was like, if I'm working on the defensive, 552 00:25:55,400 --> 00:25:57,440 Speaker 1: better do the offense. Well, here's one thing to think about. 553 00:25:58,560 --> 00:26:01,399 Speaker 1: We last the defensive side was kind of open to 554 00:26:01,440 --> 00:26:03,720 Speaker 1: you three four, four three, etc. And I chose to 555 00:26:03,760 --> 00:26:07,240 Speaker 1: go four three. The I was more four three as well, 556 00:26:07,560 --> 00:26:10,240 Speaker 1: But how are we gonna do the offense. I think 557 00:26:10,240 --> 00:26:13,040 Speaker 1: we do like a fantasy football offense. Quarterback, running back, 558 00:26:14,000 --> 00:26:17,640 Speaker 1: two wide receivers, tight end. Flex. Flex can be cool 559 00:26:17,640 --> 00:26:20,120 Speaker 1: and thin. Flex could be Eric METCALFE. It could be 560 00:26:20,400 --> 00:26:24,119 Speaker 1: Eric Dickerson, Eric metcalf there's another one. Eric metcalf is 561 00:26:24,160 --> 00:26:28,480 Speaker 1: the first college football player from the state of Texas. 562 00:26:28,480 --> 00:26:31,199 Speaker 1: Early just yeah, state of Texas. That I was like, 563 00:26:31,320 --> 00:26:33,280 Speaker 1: this guy is awesome. I was about ten years old 564 00:26:33,320 --> 00:26:35,640 Speaker 1: when he started, or when he was when I kind 565 00:26:35,640 --> 00:26:38,359 Speaker 1: of came to understand what was going on, and I 566 00:26:38,400 --> 00:26:41,760 Speaker 1: was like, that guy is awesome. Man. I saw him 567 00:26:41,800 --> 00:26:44,720 Speaker 1: playing college. I saw play here against Rice. I did too, Yeah, 568 00:26:44,720 --> 00:26:48,480 Speaker 1: I did too. That's where watching him was like, he 569 00:26:48,520 --> 00:26:51,000 Speaker 1: was like a beat of mercury. I had grown up 570 00:26:51,000 --> 00:26:53,400 Speaker 1: in Wisconsin up to that point, and I moved to Texas. 571 00:26:53,400 --> 00:26:54,960 Speaker 1: I had been here for maybe a year or two, 572 00:26:55,800 --> 00:26:57,679 Speaker 1: and I remember the first high school game I went 573 00:26:57,680 --> 00:26:59,320 Speaker 1: to was in a dome. It was Hartley Dikes in 574 00:26:59,400 --> 00:27:02,520 Speaker 1: Bay City against Thurman, Thomas and Willow Ridge. And I 575 00:27:02,720 --> 00:27:05,560 Speaker 1: kept saying to my dad's like, Dad, I can't find 576 00:27:05,560 --> 00:27:08,640 Speaker 1: the football. Like he was going so fast. I had 577 00:27:08,640 --> 00:27:11,119 Speaker 1: seen nothing like it, like Wisconsin high school football. I 578 00:27:11,160 --> 00:27:13,200 Speaker 1: mean no offense JJ, but like man, I couldn't find 579 00:27:13,240 --> 00:27:17,040 Speaker 1: the ball and I was getting frustrated, and luckily again 580 00:27:17,119 --> 00:27:19,480 Speaker 1: comes slowed down as in time. But one of my 581 00:27:19,480 --> 00:27:21,960 Speaker 1: first college games was I went and saw Eric Metcalf 582 00:27:22,000 --> 00:27:25,600 Speaker 1: against Rice, and I was like, Wow, this guy's fun 583 00:27:25,640 --> 00:27:27,119 Speaker 1: to way that you and I are probably in the 584 00:27:27,160 --> 00:27:30,480 Speaker 1: building together. He's the perfect kind of flex. I got 585 00:27:30,480 --> 00:27:32,600 Speaker 1: to do some studying before we do this. Yeah, I mean, 586 00:27:32,600 --> 00:27:34,440 Speaker 1: I mean, I know there are a lot of names 587 00:27:34,480 --> 00:27:37,480 Speaker 1: that are reverberating and you know, shaking around up there. 588 00:27:37,560 --> 00:27:39,720 Speaker 1: There's definitely a receiver that I want, kind of old 589 00:27:39,760 --> 00:27:42,639 Speaker 1: school receiver that I definitely want on my list that 590 00:27:43,320 --> 00:27:46,320 Speaker 1: I forgot that he went to which if you hear 591 00:27:46,400 --> 00:27:48,760 Speaker 1: him talk you realize he's from Texas. But he's one 592 00:27:48,760 --> 00:27:50,560 Speaker 1: of my favorites. He's one of the first receivers to 593 00:27:50,600 --> 00:27:53,199 Speaker 1: ever wear a non eighties number, actually wore an AFL 594 00:27:53,280 --> 00:27:55,080 Speaker 1: to start. That's where he made his name, So be 595 00:27:55,160 --> 00:27:58,080 Speaker 1: on lookout for that in the lab as we go, 596 00:27:58,920 --> 00:28:00,719 Speaker 1: Drew before we get to break community camp. I mean, 597 00:28:03,200 --> 00:28:04,760 Speaker 1: it was just fun to see those guys out there. 598 00:28:04,800 --> 00:28:08,000 Speaker 1: I thought, Kiki QT. There might have been a question 599 00:28:08,080 --> 00:28:09,760 Speaker 1: by some not me, not you, but there might have 600 00:28:09,760 --> 00:28:11,200 Speaker 1: been a question by some Hey, how's this guy going 601 00:28:11,200 --> 00:28:14,639 Speaker 1: to adjust to such a different offense? Uh, you know, 602 00:28:14,840 --> 00:28:18,159 Speaker 1: the Aird offense is it's interesting. It's it's good for 603 00:28:18,160 --> 00:28:21,040 Speaker 1: wide receivers. They've got options there, and he made the 604 00:28:21,080 --> 00:28:23,520 Speaker 1: most of that in his time here. We heard Bill 605 00:28:23,560 --> 00:28:28,000 Speaker 1: O'Brien this morning, uh say on an NFL Network video 606 00:28:28,480 --> 00:28:30,840 Speaker 1: how oppressed he was with what QT was able to 607 00:28:30,840 --> 00:28:33,160 Speaker 1: do here in minicamp. I mean a lot, so much 608 00:28:33,240 --> 00:28:36,040 Speaker 1: is thrown at them, so much information. You know, they 609 00:28:36,119 --> 00:28:38,600 Speaker 1: get their Thursday they do physicals and stuff, and then 610 00:28:38,680 --> 00:28:41,200 Speaker 1: Friday and Saturday starting at six am going to ten 611 00:28:41,280 --> 00:28:44,120 Speaker 1: pm with a on field practice in there. I mean 612 00:28:44,160 --> 00:28:46,800 Speaker 1: they are busy and there's so much to do on Sunday. 613 00:28:47,120 --> 00:28:49,800 Speaker 1: He came in in shape, he came in, digested all 614 00:28:49,800 --> 00:28:53,080 Speaker 1: the information. He's got some hands translated well to the field. 615 00:28:53,360 --> 00:28:55,160 Speaker 1: I can't wait to see what he does, you know, Yeah, 616 00:28:55,160 --> 00:28:56,440 Speaker 1: I just didn't wait to see what he does. And 617 00:28:56,520 --> 00:29:01,400 Speaker 1: people will say, oh, he's not he's short, but he's 618 00:29:01,400 --> 00:29:04,080 Speaker 1: not small. Well, he's he's shorter. I would say he's 619 00:29:04,120 --> 00:29:06,840 Speaker 1: not tall. I wouldn't say shit, you know, because he's 620 00:29:06,920 --> 00:29:09,280 Speaker 1: five foot ten because people you're talking about ja Quiz Rogers, 621 00:29:09,280 --> 00:29:11,040 Speaker 1: you used to rankle me because they would say, oh, 622 00:29:11,080 --> 00:29:13,960 Speaker 1: he's small, he's small. No, quiz Quiz was built like 623 00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:17,000 Speaker 1: a brickhouse. Yeah, but he used five to seven or 624 00:29:17,200 --> 00:29:19,320 Speaker 1: on a good day five And we're kind of echoing 625 00:29:19,320 --> 00:29:22,240 Speaker 1: what O'Brien said Friday when he was asked about qt. 626 00:29:22,320 --> 00:29:24,560 Speaker 1: He's like, but no, he's got some good size too. Yeah, 627 00:29:24,560 --> 00:29:27,040 Speaker 1: he's just he's not the tallest guy, but he's he's 628 00:29:27,080 --> 00:29:30,479 Speaker 1: definitely absolutely he can think he's gonna need to withstand. 629 00:29:30,600 --> 00:29:33,280 Speaker 1: If he can learn everything that he needs to in 630 00:29:33,320 --> 00:29:36,080 Speaker 1: a pretty rapid fashion, he's got an opportunity to be 631 00:29:36,360 --> 00:29:38,720 Speaker 1: really really good for this offense. Drew appreciate my man, 632 00:29:38,760 --> 00:29:41,880 Speaker 1: Thank you. We will finish the show with dep City 633 00:29:41,880 --> 00:29:44,760 Speaker 1: who stop buying give us her thoughts on rookie Mini 634 00:29:44,800 --> 00:29:47,360 Speaker 1: camp with what she saw from some rookie offensive lineman 635 00:29:47,440 --> 00:29:51,440 Speaker 1: one in particular who hopes he delivers for the Texans 636 00:29:51,440 --> 00:29:53,560 Speaker 1: hat see what I did there? Coming back on Texas 637 00:29:53,640 --> 00:29:56,760 Speaker 1: acxis one final segment of Texas All Axis on his 638 00:29:56,760 --> 00:30:00,320 Speaker 1: Wonderful Monday Even from the Honday Texans Radio Studio, John 639 00:30:00,320 --> 00:30:04,080 Speaker 1: Harris alongside'm a good friend. Deep deep. First of all, yes, 640 00:30:04,160 --> 00:30:06,520 Speaker 1: happy Mother's Day a day and late do you have 641 00:30:06,520 --> 00:30:08,840 Speaker 1: a good weekend? It's always a good weekend. I mean 642 00:30:08,840 --> 00:30:11,120 Speaker 1: we were here for Ricky Minicamp on Saturday, but yesterday 643 00:30:11,240 --> 00:30:13,800 Speaker 1: was really nice, relaxing. I always ask for please, I 644 00:30:13,800 --> 00:30:15,920 Speaker 1: don't want to do a single dish all day on 645 00:30:15,960 --> 00:30:18,560 Speaker 1: Mother's Day, and it's like the longest day for my 646 00:30:18,640 --> 00:30:20,880 Speaker 1: kids and my husband. But that's all. I don't have 647 00:30:20,920 --> 00:30:22,600 Speaker 1: to do anything. I get to do whatever I want. 648 00:30:22,720 --> 00:30:25,520 Speaker 1: So there was a lot of lounging, catching up on 649 00:30:25,560 --> 00:30:27,719 Speaker 1: the DVR. Had to help the kids with their homework. 650 00:30:27,720 --> 00:30:30,320 Speaker 1: It's you know, finals and exams week. But other than that, 651 00:30:30,400 --> 00:30:34,080 Speaker 1: it was super super relaxing. That's what I do that 652 00:30:34,160 --> 00:30:36,840 Speaker 1: every day. Though, helping my daughter homework is there's just 653 00:30:37,080 --> 00:30:39,840 Speaker 1: they like to wait till Sunday night, which drives me bananas. 654 00:30:39,840 --> 00:30:43,000 Speaker 1: But whatever. Then I'm sure in your house as as 655 00:30:43,040 --> 00:30:45,280 Speaker 1: I'm in mine, I'm the math tutor in the house. 656 00:30:45,800 --> 00:30:49,200 Speaker 1: I'm sure that's that's probably your row as well. Well. Unfortunately, 657 00:30:49,280 --> 00:30:51,040 Speaker 1: my husband is also good at math, so we fight 658 00:30:51,080 --> 00:30:54,880 Speaker 1: over math and then we're like all right, paper scissors. 659 00:30:54,880 --> 00:30:59,520 Speaker 1: For social studies like reading, comprehension. That's where I like, 660 00:30:59,600 --> 00:31:02,200 Speaker 1: I can just say, all right, Paige, that's those those 661 00:31:02,240 --> 00:31:04,719 Speaker 1: are yours. We should have those, we should have diversified 662 00:31:04,720 --> 00:31:07,400 Speaker 1: our interest better. Well, I mean in my house, I 663 00:31:07,440 --> 00:31:10,160 Speaker 1: get the I get the math section. Um. And so 664 00:31:10,280 --> 00:31:14,240 Speaker 1: we've we've had some pretty intense algebra two. Oh, pretty 665 00:31:14,240 --> 00:31:16,760 Speaker 1: intense algebra two sessions lately. And it's one of those 666 00:31:16,760 --> 00:31:18,680 Speaker 1: things where I taught algebra two for I don't I 667 00:31:18,680 --> 00:31:20,880 Speaker 1: don't know how many. Oh you're perfect. I've taught every 668 00:31:20,960 --> 00:31:23,240 Speaker 1: I've taught every math, but some of that, some of 669 00:31:23,280 --> 00:31:25,320 Speaker 1: the stuff you see you go, I'm gonna forgot how 670 00:31:25,320 --> 00:31:28,200 Speaker 1: to do this, and then you look at it. Oh okay, 671 00:31:28,360 --> 00:31:30,320 Speaker 1: I mean you literally could teach your stuff online. Now, 672 00:31:30,400 --> 00:31:32,400 Speaker 1: everything you want to know, I mean, just put it, 673 00:31:32,400 --> 00:31:34,600 Speaker 1: put it into Google. You can google, we'll get it back. 674 00:31:34,680 --> 00:31:37,560 Speaker 1: I did that yesterday because what is the test tomorrow? 675 00:31:37,560 --> 00:31:42,280 Speaker 1: It's a vocabulary volcabulary, so synonyms and antonyms and you 676 00:31:42,320 --> 00:31:44,560 Speaker 1: know all those things on the sat with the analogies. 677 00:31:44,960 --> 00:31:46,600 Speaker 1: So I I was trying to come up with sample 678 00:31:46,640 --> 00:31:49,120 Speaker 1: analogies and I'll learn I'll just google this. Yeah, you know, 679 00:31:49,440 --> 00:31:52,400 Speaker 1: everything that you possibly could want and there's it's so 680 00:31:52,480 --> 00:31:54,920 Speaker 1: easy to study now. I asked my daughter, like, where 681 00:31:55,040 --> 00:31:57,680 Speaker 1: where are your notes? Like, well, okay, forget it, I'll 682 00:31:57,720 --> 00:31:59,920 Speaker 1: just do this, and then I and then I see it, 683 00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:01,360 Speaker 1: go oh, I remember how to do this? And I 684 00:32:01,400 --> 00:32:05,080 Speaker 1: was having I was having It's funny because it's been 685 00:32:05,120 --> 00:32:07,160 Speaker 1: a long time since I did It's been a long 686 00:32:07,200 --> 00:32:08,960 Speaker 1: time since I taught it, and I'm trying to remember 687 00:32:09,000 --> 00:32:11,000 Speaker 1: how did I teach this? What did I do to 688 00:32:11,040 --> 00:32:13,160 Speaker 1: teach us? And I would see something on Google. Oh yeah, okay, 689 00:32:13,160 --> 00:32:15,400 Speaker 1: I remember, And then then it would click in like 690 00:32:15,440 --> 00:32:17,960 Speaker 1: all the different like tricks and things that I would say, like, Okay, 691 00:32:18,000 --> 00:32:19,360 Speaker 1: if you see this, then you got to do this, 692 00:32:19,840 --> 00:32:22,240 Speaker 1: so we had to do. You don't need to save 693 00:32:22,320 --> 00:32:24,800 Speaker 1: notebooks and notes anymore. Remember for years I saved my 694 00:32:24,840 --> 00:32:29,400 Speaker 1: college notes and note books did too. Don't need everything. 695 00:32:29,960 --> 00:32:31,960 Speaker 1: Everything you need is right there on the Google. And 696 00:32:32,000 --> 00:32:35,280 Speaker 1: if you googled Rookie Minicamp from this weekend, you would 697 00:32:35,280 --> 00:32:37,680 Speaker 1: see DB's article. Now I know one of the articles 698 00:32:37,720 --> 00:32:40,320 Speaker 1: that you wrote had to do with kJ malone very 699 00:32:40,400 --> 00:32:44,600 Speaker 1: interesting position that he's in, and I mean it figuratively 700 00:32:44,680 --> 00:32:47,680 Speaker 1: and literally because he's come here with an opportunity. I 701 00:32:47,680 --> 00:32:49,800 Speaker 1: think anybody that is here in this rookie class on 702 00:32:49,840 --> 00:32:53,640 Speaker 1: the offensive line have got a shot. There's there. I 703 00:32:53,680 --> 00:32:55,720 Speaker 1: don't think there are a few spots up there that 704 00:32:55,760 --> 00:32:58,120 Speaker 1: are locked. I don't know if positions are locked in, 705 00:32:58,480 --> 00:33:00,560 Speaker 1: but I don't think the fifty three who's going to 706 00:33:00,600 --> 00:33:02,240 Speaker 1: be on the fifty three is locked in at all. 707 00:33:02,840 --> 00:33:05,120 Speaker 1: But then the position side of it is, he's moving 708 00:33:05,120 --> 00:33:07,760 Speaker 1: to guard after having played tackle, right and you know, 709 00:33:07,800 --> 00:33:09,360 Speaker 1: he to me, he looked like a guard out there 710 00:33:09,400 --> 00:33:11,520 Speaker 1: on the field, maybe because of the tackles were really big, 711 00:33:11,520 --> 00:33:13,320 Speaker 1: and just his size and the way he's built. But 712 00:33:13,720 --> 00:33:15,600 Speaker 1: you know, I was really interested in talking to him. Obviously, 713 00:33:15,640 --> 00:33:17,240 Speaker 1: we all know about his dad, Hall of Fame, NBA 714 00:33:17,320 --> 00:33:21,080 Speaker 1: star Karl Malone and kJ. You know, he was obviously 715 00:33:21,080 --> 00:33:23,680 Speaker 1: asked about his famous dad and what advice he gave, 716 00:33:23,720 --> 00:33:26,800 Speaker 1: which I thought is gonna sit really well with Bill O'Brien. 717 00:33:28,080 --> 00:33:31,040 Speaker 1: His dad's advice was just listen to the coaches, know 718 00:33:31,160 --> 00:33:35,120 Speaker 1: your role, don't speak unless spoken to respect the elders. 719 00:33:35,720 --> 00:33:38,480 Speaker 1: That's exactly I mean. He'll fit in just fine. He 720 00:33:38,560 --> 00:33:41,480 Speaker 1: follows that. He's good. He's good. He's good here now. Obviously, 721 00:33:41,480 --> 00:33:43,120 Speaker 1: he's got to go out on the field and show out. 722 00:33:43,600 --> 00:33:45,880 Speaker 1: But last week we saw Jeff Allen went on Pop, 723 00:33:46,440 --> 00:33:48,959 Speaker 1: you know, and so that that opens up some possibilities 724 00:33:48,960 --> 00:33:50,880 Speaker 1: for some of these younger guys. Whether he makes a 725 00:33:50,920 --> 00:33:54,120 Speaker 1: fifty three, whether he doesn't, who knows. But for anybody 726 00:33:54,120 --> 00:33:57,280 Speaker 1: that's an offensive lineman entering camp or rookie mini camp, 727 00:33:57,320 --> 00:33:59,280 Speaker 1: you've got a big opportunity. And I did think it 728 00:33:59,320 --> 00:34:02,480 Speaker 1: was interesting that, you know, he was surprised he got 729 00:34:02,480 --> 00:34:04,880 Speaker 1: an invite to the NFL Combine. I was reading up 730 00:34:04,920 --> 00:34:07,160 Speaker 1: on him a little bit. Obviously, he was at LSU. 731 00:34:07,840 --> 00:34:10,399 Speaker 1: You know, he was part of a pretty strong offensive line. 732 00:34:10,400 --> 00:34:15,120 Speaker 1: They had Leonard Fournette, Darius Guys, and in twenty seventeen 733 00:34:15,560 --> 00:34:17,600 Speaker 1: he had six starts at left tackle. Then he had 734 00:34:17,640 --> 00:34:20,680 Speaker 1: the knee injury, but he was able to participate at 735 00:34:20,680 --> 00:34:23,160 Speaker 1: the NFL Combine. And he had been working out in 736 00:34:23,160 --> 00:34:26,560 Speaker 1: Houston since January, So you know, you can make the 737 00:34:26,600 --> 00:34:29,279 Speaker 1: assumption that he said that at the combine he was 738 00:34:29,320 --> 00:34:31,640 Speaker 1: asked about working out and where he was with his knee, 739 00:34:31,640 --> 00:34:33,200 Speaker 1: and he said he told the Texans he'd been working 740 00:34:33,200 --> 00:34:35,399 Speaker 1: out in Houston. So that obviously makes it very easy 741 00:34:35,440 --> 00:34:37,440 Speaker 1: to bring a guy like that here to rookie minicamp 742 00:34:37,719 --> 00:34:39,680 Speaker 1: and he said his knees fine, he's out there. You 743 00:34:39,719 --> 00:34:41,640 Speaker 1: know what we were able to see if Rookie mini 744 00:34:41,640 --> 00:34:44,720 Speaker 1: camp he was participating, So you know, maybe the Texans 745 00:34:44,760 --> 00:34:47,400 Speaker 1: get a steal and somebody like that. Who knows. But 746 00:34:47,480 --> 00:34:49,799 Speaker 1: it's interesting to watch, especially, you know, I really liked 747 00:34:49,840 --> 00:34:54,400 Speaker 1: his demeanor and his persona. He was very calm, very comfortable. Yeah, exactly, 748 00:34:54,440 --> 00:34:56,600 Speaker 1: And you know these guys, obviously he's the son of 749 00:34:57,160 --> 00:35:00,640 Speaker 1: a guy, you know, worldly famous car I'm alone, haven't 750 00:35:00,640 --> 00:35:03,120 Speaker 1: played for the Utah Jazz and been in the NBA 751 00:35:03,120 --> 00:35:04,680 Speaker 1: for a long time, so he's been exposed to the 752 00:35:04,680 --> 00:35:07,760 Speaker 1: professional spotlights. Saw his dad go through it. And obviously, 753 00:35:07,760 --> 00:35:09,520 Speaker 1: when you're young and you shoot dad go through it, 754 00:35:09,560 --> 00:35:13,000 Speaker 1: you're very impressionable and oh, okay, that's what this is. 755 00:35:13,040 --> 00:35:14,839 Speaker 1: That's how you act like a professional. That's what you're 756 00:35:14,840 --> 00:35:17,000 Speaker 1: supposed to do things. And I'm sure that obviously, Carl, 757 00:35:17,120 --> 00:35:19,120 Speaker 1: I'd think the advice you gave him is is definitely 758 00:35:19,160 --> 00:35:22,360 Speaker 1: spot But then he goes to LSU where the spotlight 759 00:35:22,440 --> 00:35:26,560 Speaker 1: is very bright. Media obviously, the state, the fervor that 760 00:35:26,640 --> 00:35:28,680 Speaker 1: fans have for it, so he's been through it from 761 00:35:28,719 --> 00:35:32,720 Speaker 1: that perspective as well. I don't know how many times 762 00:35:32,719 --> 00:35:35,719 Speaker 1: we've gone through the draft process at some point and 763 00:35:35,719 --> 00:35:38,120 Speaker 1: you go, well, why didn't a guy like that who 764 00:35:38,160 --> 00:35:41,000 Speaker 1: had started a left tackle at a place like LSU. 765 00:35:41,680 --> 00:35:44,560 Speaker 1: Oh man, he got hurt six games or seven games 766 00:35:44,640 --> 00:35:48,120 Speaker 1: in and then kind of goes by the wayside, kind 767 00:35:48,120 --> 00:35:49,960 Speaker 1: of out of sight, out of mind, and that kind 768 00:35:49,960 --> 00:35:51,880 Speaker 1: of happens for a lot of teams, and then teams 769 00:35:51,880 --> 00:35:53,120 Speaker 1: are like, oh, yeah, well then I got this guy 770 00:35:53,160 --> 00:35:55,560 Speaker 1: on the board, and I got that guy in teams 771 00:35:55,600 --> 00:35:57,520 Speaker 1: like the Texans, they get their draft boards and they 772 00:35:57,520 --> 00:36:00,359 Speaker 1: have all contingencies and they look at those players, those 773 00:36:00,360 --> 00:36:02,640 Speaker 1: players that have been injured and haven't played a little bit. 774 00:36:02,719 --> 00:36:04,640 Speaker 1: But sometimes those guys kind of fall off the map 775 00:36:04,680 --> 00:36:06,799 Speaker 1: a little bit because you just don't know what they're 776 00:36:06,840 --> 00:36:09,080 Speaker 1: gonna do, and so teams are a little bit risk 777 00:36:09,120 --> 00:36:11,080 Speaker 1: aversive to say, well, look, do we want to take 778 00:36:11,120 --> 00:36:12,680 Speaker 1: a shot on a guy. Do we really know how 779 00:36:12,760 --> 00:36:15,360 Speaker 1: healthy is The medicals say he's okay, but are we 780 00:36:15,400 --> 00:36:17,160 Speaker 1: gonna do this? I don't know, And then all of 781 00:36:17,200 --> 00:36:19,040 Speaker 1: a sudden, before you know it, you draft somebody else 782 00:36:19,320 --> 00:36:21,640 Speaker 1: and he ends up falling through the cracks and then 783 00:36:21,840 --> 00:36:23,919 Speaker 1: he ends up being an undrafted free agent. But we've 784 00:36:23,920 --> 00:36:28,280 Speaker 1: seen players go through that process before. I mean Arian Foster, 785 00:36:28,480 --> 00:36:31,279 Speaker 1: Mike Brizel, A J. Boyer, Dylan Cole. I mean the 786 00:36:31,360 --> 00:36:35,400 Speaker 1: number of players. Corey Moore is a tryout player. You 787 00:36:35,440 --> 00:36:38,319 Speaker 1: can make this team going in that not only make 788 00:36:38,400 --> 00:36:42,040 Speaker 1: this team, but do something great. Boyer and Foster ended 789 00:36:42,080 --> 00:36:45,359 Speaker 1: up being Pro Bowlers after being undrafted free agents. So 790 00:36:45,640 --> 00:36:47,759 Speaker 1: and especially with this offensive line, and we talked about 791 00:36:47,800 --> 00:36:50,880 Speaker 1: you just mentioned Jeff Allen being put on pup and 792 00:36:51,280 --> 00:36:53,719 Speaker 1: don't know where that leads. My guess is that my 793 00:36:54,280 --> 00:36:56,560 Speaker 1: ultimate guests would be that he wouldn't be back this year. 794 00:36:56,600 --> 00:36:58,880 Speaker 1: But who knows. But you brought in a lot of 795 00:36:58,880 --> 00:37:01,839 Speaker 1: free agents and they're gonna be injuries. What's gonna happen? 796 00:37:01,880 --> 00:37:03,680 Speaker 1: I mean, David Quisenberry had been around here for a 797 00:37:03,719 --> 00:37:06,000 Speaker 1: number of years and obviously we know his his backstory, 798 00:37:06,040 --> 00:37:09,359 Speaker 1: which is absolutely premendous to see where he's come from. 799 00:37:09,400 --> 00:37:11,560 Speaker 1: And I was here when he was first drafted and 800 00:37:11,560 --> 00:37:13,719 Speaker 1: they had such high hopes for him exactly and he 801 00:37:13,800 --> 00:37:15,360 Speaker 1: finally got on the field last year. But some of 802 00:37:15,400 --> 00:37:17,799 Speaker 1: that had to do with some injuries up front, with 803 00:37:17,920 --> 00:37:20,000 Speaker 1: some guys not playing the way that they were supposed to, 804 00:37:20,040 --> 00:37:23,080 Speaker 1: and he kind of muscled his way into an opportunity 805 00:37:23,480 --> 00:37:25,400 Speaker 1: and and got himself on the field. And so for 806 00:37:25,440 --> 00:37:27,759 Speaker 1: a guy like kJ Malone, obviously not having gone through 807 00:37:27,800 --> 00:37:29,759 Speaker 1: what David Quisenberry, you can look at a guy like 808 00:37:29,840 --> 00:37:31,840 Speaker 1: Quiz and go, look, that guy kind of fought through it. 809 00:37:31,920 --> 00:37:34,120 Speaker 1: You know a few you know, being on injured reserve 810 00:37:34,280 --> 00:37:37,560 Speaker 1: one year and then having to go through it defeating cancer, 811 00:37:37,840 --> 00:37:40,560 Speaker 1: but then getting on last year on practice squad, working 812 00:37:40,600 --> 00:37:42,120 Speaker 1: his way to the fifty three, and then getting on 813 00:37:42,160 --> 00:37:43,640 Speaker 1: the field at the end of the year. I mean, 814 00:37:43,840 --> 00:37:49,279 Speaker 1: there is a roadmap for these particular offensive linement in 815 00:37:49,320 --> 00:37:52,680 Speaker 1: particular Jared Jones Smith, you and I were talking about him, 816 00:37:52,719 --> 00:37:55,000 Speaker 1: how huge he is. I remember that's the first thing 817 00:37:55,000 --> 00:37:58,160 Speaker 1: you said, like, who's the huge guy? And he made 818 00:37:58,680 --> 00:38:01,439 Speaker 1: kJ Malone is listed as six four three twenty Yeah, 819 00:38:01,560 --> 00:38:05,319 Speaker 1: he made him look small because Jared Smith Jones Jones 820 00:38:05,360 --> 00:38:07,839 Speaker 1: Smith is six seven three thirty five and I mean 821 00:38:07,880 --> 00:38:09,959 Speaker 1: that it could be more than that, and he's every 822 00:38:09,960 --> 00:38:13,040 Speaker 1: part of that. His arms are, he's just long. I mean, 823 00:38:13,040 --> 00:38:15,960 Speaker 1: he he's a big human. I'm ever seeing him at 824 00:38:16,000 --> 00:38:19,400 Speaker 1: the combine and went, wow, he's really really impressive in 825 00:38:19,440 --> 00:38:22,040 Speaker 1: which was interesting because the tackle on the other side 826 00:38:22,080 --> 00:38:23,400 Speaker 1: was the guy that got more acclaim and that was 827 00:38:23,400 --> 00:38:26,359 Speaker 1: Brian O'Neill. But when you watched him, when I watched him, 828 00:38:26,440 --> 00:38:28,720 Speaker 1: you know, Brian and made my my hairs were hundred. 829 00:38:29,120 --> 00:38:31,440 Speaker 1: But I would watch Jared Jones Smith and go, you know, 830 00:38:31,560 --> 00:38:34,240 Speaker 1: he's a he's a pretty good player. On the other side, 831 00:38:34,360 --> 00:38:36,800 Speaker 1: he'll probably get drafted late, you know, late day or 832 00:38:36,960 --> 00:38:39,480 Speaker 1: on Day three. And then he didn't get drafted. He 833 00:38:39,520 --> 00:38:40,759 Speaker 1: ended up with Texas. Thought, you know, he's got a 834 00:38:40,800 --> 00:38:43,160 Speaker 1: pretty good opportunity. He's got a really good opportunity. And 835 00:38:43,200 --> 00:38:47,879 Speaker 1: so those guys Jared Jones, Smith and kJ Malone undrafted guys, 836 00:38:47,880 --> 00:38:51,400 Speaker 1: and then Martinez Rankin was drafted. Yea, so those guys 837 00:38:51,600 --> 00:38:54,120 Speaker 1: all and I would think Martinez, because he was drafted, 838 00:38:54,160 --> 00:38:56,040 Speaker 1: probably has a little bit of a leg up um, 839 00:38:56,880 --> 00:38:59,200 Speaker 1: especially being the second draft pick of Brian Gaine's career. 840 00:38:59,200 --> 00:39:00,680 Speaker 1: I would think he would have leg up. But those 841 00:39:00,680 --> 00:39:03,320 Speaker 1: are the guys. There's plenty of opportunities offensive line, especially 842 00:39:03,360 --> 00:39:04,960 Speaker 1: the way it played last year. The injuries that that 843 00:39:05,000 --> 00:39:07,520 Speaker 1: group has had. There are opportunities to make this team 844 00:39:07,520 --> 00:39:10,160 Speaker 1: at that spot. There's no doubt. Bill O'Brien said, four 845 00:39:10,360 --> 00:39:12,880 Speaker 1: News starters for the O line, and that could even 846 00:39:13,360 --> 00:39:16,000 Speaker 1: be five. He decides to move around Nick Martin at 847 00:39:16,000 --> 00:39:17,839 Speaker 1: the center and move him to guard. Who knows what's 848 00:39:17,840 --> 00:39:20,239 Speaker 1: going to happen there? Man, If I thought about this 849 00:39:20,320 --> 00:39:27,040 Speaker 1: deep when you say that, I'm trying to think what thirteen? Yeah, 850 00:39:27,080 --> 00:39:30,000 Speaker 1: going back to when you first got here, Yes, we 851 00:39:30,080 --> 00:39:35,839 Speaker 1: have had a different center quarterback combination every single year 852 00:39:35,880 --> 00:39:38,080 Speaker 1: to start the year. If you think about different starting 853 00:39:38,160 --> 00:39:41,200 Speaker 1: quarterback in Week one for sure, and in a different 854 00:39:41,200 --> 00:39:45,240 Speaker 1: starting center in twenty thirteen. It was. In twenty thirteen 855 00:39:45,280 --> 00:39:47,880 Speaker 1: it was Chris Myers and match Shop. In twenty fourteen, 856 00:39:48,200 --> 00:39:51,520 Speaker 1: it was Chris Myers and Fitzy. In twenty fifteen, it 857 00:39:51,600 --> 00:39:56,760 Speaker 1: was Ben Jones and Hoyer. Twenty sixteen it was Greg 858 00:39:56,800 --> 00:40:01,600 Speaker 1: Manz and Ostwaller. In twenty seventeen it was Nick Martin 859 00:40:01,680 --> 00:40:05,640 Speaker 1: and Tom Savage. And then this year it'll be Watson 860 00:40:05,719 --> 00:40:08,600 Speaker 1: and it'll be Nick will Is it gonna be Nick? 861 00:40:08,600 --> 00:40:11,640 Speaker 1: But it's gonna be Watson. We know that right there, 862 00:40:11,920 --> 00:40:14,920 Speaker 1: right and so if it's Nick, at least that should 863 00:40:15,000 --> 00:40:17,360 Speaker 1: be it for the future. But that's five years of 864 00:40:17,520 --> 00:40:20,920 Speaker 1: different center quarterback combinations we've had because the injuries that 865 00:40:20,960 --> 00:40:23,400 Speaker 1: have happened up front. It's amazing to think about it. 866 00:40:23,400 --> 00:40:26,520 Speaker 1: And by the way, Greg Manson guy that was also undrafted, 867 00:40:26,680 --> 00:40:30,160 Speaker 1: and like kJ he was undrafted large part because he 868 00:40:30,200 --> 00:40:32,360 Speaker 1: had an injury in the Shrine Bowl. At the Shrine 869 00:40:32,400 --> 00:40:34,440 Speaker 1: Bowl and people were like, well, I don't know if 870 00:40:34,480 --> 00:40:36,279 Speaker 1: he's gonna make it back. I'm not sure, And then 871 00:40:36,280 --> 00:40:37,960 Speaker 1: he did. He made it back and ended up making 872 00:40:37,960 --> 00:40:39,960 Speaker 1: the squad and started for this team entirely in twenty 873 00:40:40,000 --> 00:40:42,279 Speaker 1: sixteen and started a few games last year. So a 874 00:40:42,480 --> 00:40:45,840 Speaker 1: valuable member to the interior offensive line going forward. And 875 00:40:45,880 --> 00:40:48,040 Speaker 1: Greg Mann so we'll see how he fits into all this. 876 00:40:48,080 --> 00:40:51,160 Speaker 1: But still, I I mean, there are people that still think, oh, 877 00:40:51,239 --> 00:40:53,719 Speaker 1: the offensive line, it's and I've seen nfan let's say this, 878 00:40:54,239 --> 00:40:56,600 Speaker 1: oh NFL offense, that that offensive line is one of 879 00:40:56,600 --> 00:40:58,080 Speaker 1: the worst in the NFL. It's one of the worst. 880 00:40:58,320 --> 00:41:00,239 Speaker 1: That's the case. Then these guys that are coming here, 881 00:41:00,280 --> 00:41:03,040 Speaker 1: Jared Jones Smith chose to come here because he knows 882 00:41:03,080 --> 00:41:05,960 Speaker 1: there's an opportunity exactly without a doubt, and wait until 883 00:41:06,239 --> 00:41:08,920 Speaker 1: OTA's and then training camp starting, you get your veteran 884 00:41:08,920 --> 00:41:11,319 Speaker 1: guys and your free agents back here and to see 885 00:41:11,360 --> 00:41:13,000 Speaker 1: how it all fits together. Who knows, maybe they can 886 00:41:13,040 --> 00:41:15,319 Speaker 1: make a puzzle a lot of these pieces, just it's 887 00:41:15,320 --> 00:41:17,560 Speaker 1: gonna take some time. I think in training camp that's 888 00:41:17,560 --> 00:41:19,880 Speaker 1: gonna be one of the big storylines is what the 889 00:41:19,880 --> 00:41:22,560 Speaker 1: configuration is. Usually we have like one question mark or 890 00:41:22,560 --> 00:41:25,560 Speaker 1: two question marks. Either the guards are said, you know, 891 00:41:25,640 --> 00:41:28,279 Speaker 1: But this year it's it's really all up in the air. Yeah, 892 00:41:28,320 --> 00:41:31,480 Speaker 1: I think so. I think ironically, I think the one 893 00:41:31,480 --> 00:41:34,480 Speaker 1: position that maybe I don't know, maybe not a term 894 00:41:34,520 --> 00:41:35,840 Speaker 1: by saying this, but I think the one position that 895 00:41:36,000 --> 00:41:39,880 Speaker 1: is solidified, he's Julio Davenport playing left tackle. I feel 896 00:41:39,880 --> 00:41:43,680 Speaker 1: like that one is probably more solid than anything else. 897 00:41:43,719 --> 00:41:45,440 Speaker 1: I think everything else is up in the air. I 898 00:41:45,520 --> 00:41:49,279 Speaker 1: think Julian is the day one less tackle to start. 899 00:41:49,440 --> 00:41:52,600 Speaker 1: He's got the most experience, yes, playing a Texans tackle 900 00:41:52,680 --> 00:41:57,520 Speaker 1: than anybody else, which is really that's it's alarming, and 901 00:41:57,640 --> 00:42:00,719 Speaker 1: yet there's wild to think about. He's been here for 902 00:42:00,760 --> 00:42:04,440 Speaker 1: a year from Bucknell, so who knew. But some of 903 00:42:04,440 --> 00:42:06,759 Speaker 1: these but some of these though, that's the thing, Well, 904 00:42:06,760 --> 00:42:08,600 Speaker 1: that's Greg Man's and I remember we had this we 905 00:42:08,640 --> 00:42:10,600 Speaker 1: had I had interviewed with him and I don't know 906 00:42:10,640 --> 00:42:12,520 Speaker 1: if we were discussing this off the year on, but 907 00:42:12,560 --> 00:42:15,160 Speaker 1: we were just talking about schools like Toledo, how you know, 908 00:42:15,280 --> 00:42:17,160 Speaker 1: you don't really get a lot of opportunity, but there's 909 00:42:17,160 --> 00:42:19,800 Speaker 1: a lot of talent at some of these schools Bucknell, Toledo, 910 00:42:19,840 --> 00:42:21,600 Speaker 1: They just you know, they don't have the big matchups 911 00:42:21,600 --> 00:42:24,200 Speaker 1: and the big games, but you could definitely find some 912 00:42:24,200 --> 00:42:27,560 Speaker 1: some talent there at those schools. Tell everywhere, you just 913 00:42:27,640 --> 00:42:30,160 Speaker 1: gotta find it, make an NFL talent. Hopefully the Texans 914 00:42:30,200 --> 00:42:32,759 Speaker 1: are able to do that. Deep appreciate you're stopping by, 915 00:42:32,800 --> 00:42:35,520 Speaker 1: Appreciate Drew being here, Appreciate Mark being here as well. 916 00:42:35,600 --> 00:42:37,600 Speaker 1: Mostly you guys for listening. Thank you so much. With 917 00:42:37,600 --> 00:42:39,680 Speaker 1: see tomorrow everybody, and as always, go Texans.