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Speaker 1: Countdown with Keith Olderman is a production of iHeartRadio. Trump

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Speaker 1: is now a lame duck, a lame Donald, A lame

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Speaker 1: duck Donald, A lame Donald duck. I like it. It's

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Speaker 1: not just that Marjorie Taylor Green stood up to him

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Speaker 1: and her side won the Epstein fight nearly unanimously. It's

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Speaker 1: not just that, even when Trump switched sides so he

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Speaker 1: could pretend he didn't lose by four hundred and twenty

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Speaker 1: seven to one, one of his stalwarts, psychos Clay Higgins,

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Speaker 1: stood up to him in the opposite direction and voted

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Speaker 1: against him from the other way. It's that there has

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Speaker 1: been a sea change within the mainstream media. Trump Stein

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Speaker 1: has damaged Trump, probably irretrievably, but not in the way

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Speaker 1: any of us expected. The Republican House Caucus rebelling against him,

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Speaker 1: handing him a rebuke so powerful, so large, that he

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Speaker 1: not only gave up, but he did a one to eighty,

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Speaker 1: and he made the Speaker of the House to a

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Speaker 1: one eighty with him. That's something that even most of

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Speaker 1: the Washington political media industrial complex of morons can understand,

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Speaker 1: can process, can write using the cliches in which they

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Speaker 1: trafficked until Trump and his unprecedented madness came along a

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Speaker 1: decade ago. This looked familiar to them, like they were

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Speaker 1: back from a trip through the desert, and they jumped

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Speaker 1: on it with both feet and both cliches. Fortune quote

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Speaker 1: in twenty thirty, He's not going to be the president.

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Speaker 1: Even Republicans are warning of Trump's lame duck status as affordability,

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Speaker 1: Epstein threatened to derail Tenure NBC News quote, lame duck

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Speaker 1: Trump inside Trump losing his grip on the Republican Party

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Speaker 1: after nearly a decade. Wall Street Journal, Trump's grip on

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Speaker 1: Republican shows first signs of slipping semaphore the Epstein vote

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Speaker 1: quote a sign that Trump wants all powerful in the

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Speaker 1: Republican Party is entering an early lame duck period. Nate Silver,

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Speaker 1: is Trump a lame duck? Where if you prefer CNN,

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Speaker 1: is Trump a lame duck? Now? And worst of all,

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Speaker 1: worse than you can possibly imagine in the case in

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Speaker 1: which the vibe actually counts. The biggest media cliche of

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Speaker 1: them all Politico one day with Donald Trump enters his

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Speaker 1: lame duck era. It's a two liner. So right under

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Speaker 1: Donald was duck. Donald duck and the next day came

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Speaker 1: the dreaded Politico listical quote seven signs Trump is losing

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Speaker 1: his groove. The president has faced a series of brush

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Speaker 1: offs and brushbacks that threaten his aura of invincibility. A

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Speaker 1: lame duck listical with bad puns. Oh my god, Trump

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Speaker 1: might as well resign and flee for Argentina. Right effing now,

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Speaker 1: quack whack. Yeah. But Politico, Wall Street Journal, NBC, Semaphore, Fortune,

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Speaker 1: Maga thinks they're all commies spoiler alert, they're all fascists.

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Speaker 1: Mostly what about a right way? Oh? Quote The Epstein

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Speaker 1: Fight shows Trump inching closer to lame duck status by

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Speaker 1: Jim Garretty National Review.

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Speaker 2: Oh.

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Speaker 1: In yesterday's column, I suggested Trump is starting to look

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Speaker 1: like a lame duck. Okay, Jim, Still it seems to

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Speaker 1: be lacking some final confirmation of this, some acknowledgment from

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Speaker 1: the denizens of dead center, the deepest mainstream unshakably both

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Speaker 1: sides this cubby holding institutional protectors and we don't have that.

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Speaker 1: Oh wait. Quote it's official Donald Trump is a lame

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Speaker 1: duck president by Chris Sliza. But what about Chuck Todd Oh?

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Speaker 1: The subheadline by chrysal my weekly conversation with Chuck Todd.

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Speaker 1: If you've lost Chrys and Chuck Todd, you're a lame

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Speaker 1: duck if you think the Epstein story will now never

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Speaker 1: go away. Now that the term lame duck has entered

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Speaker 1: the conversation literally and entered the brains of the official

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Speaker 1: Washington circle jerk led by Chief Jerks, Solicit and Todd,

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Speaker 1: lame duck will follow Trump to his last minutes in office,

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Speaker 1: hopefully all the way to next week sometime. But okay,

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Speaker 1: does this mean anything? These are missionary position Washington pretend

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Speaker 1: journalistic outlets to get them to line up in herd mentality, Michael,

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Speaker 1: how much could they cost? One hundred dollars? There actually

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Speaker 1: is substance here. Morning Consult has a new poll asking

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Speaker 1: Americans do you think Trump knew quote what Epstein was

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Speaker 1: know what Epstein was up to. Sixty percent said oh yes,

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Speaker 1: yes he did. That's four times as many. That's a lot.

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Speaker 1: That's like a number Trump would make up. A Reuter's

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Speaker 1: IPSOS poll is kind of worse. Only twenty percent of

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Speaker 1: the country approves of how Trump has handled the Epstein

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Speaker 1: in case, just forty four percent of Republicans. He's losing

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Speaker 1: Republicans about Epstein. The total percentage of Americans who believe

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Speaker 1: Trump's government is hiding info about Epstein's clients is now

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Speaker 1: seventy percent, including sixty percent of Republicans. These are way

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Speaker 1: worse than a disastrous new poll about the Measley midterms

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Speaker 1: PBS NPR. Maris the generic Democrat at next year's House election,

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Speaker 1: and I have met the generic Democrat, by the way,

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Speaker 1: are favored by two to one among independents. Strength in

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Speaker 1: numbers verisite only has it forty seven to forty two Democratic.

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Speaker 1: But and if this doesn't explain everything right now, I

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Speaker 1: don't know what will. If you then remind the people

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Speaker 1: no knton The obviousness of the Trump play here on

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Speaker 1: Epstein will make it certain that his Epstein numbers will

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Speaker 1: in fact get worse. First, he told Pam Bondi to

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Speaker 1: investigate Democrats. Then he went after Larry Summers, just proving

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Speaker 1: the stopped clock can weed out the scumbags twice a year.

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Speaker 1: Thanks Trump, Now do Alan Dershowitz. Then Trump cave to

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Speaker 1: Massy and Green in the Democrats, and he called for

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Speaker 1: an unnecessary vote to release the Epstein files that he

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Speaker 1: spent a year promising to release personally. But now he

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Speaker 1: wants somebody else on the record taking the responsibility for

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Speaker 1: actually doing that. And of course, stage last, he can

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Speaker 1: now keep almost anything he wants in the trump Stein

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Speaker 1: files from being released because they're auditing his tax returns. No, sorry,

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Speaker 1: that was the old eternal excuse. Now he can keep

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Speaker 1: almost anything from being released because it's part of an

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Speaker 1: active investigation. Paan Blundy, when do you expect to have

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Speaker 1: the active investigation concluded? The air four thousand, Chief, This

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Speaker 1: has the practical impact of keeping some secrets hidden. Unfortunately,

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Speaker 1: that impact can only be achieved if you repeat this

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Speaker 1: effort daily. Thereby keeping this story in the news daily forever,

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Speaker 1: and the longer that goes on, the greater will be

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Speaker 1: the belief that whatever there is about Trump in those files,

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Speaker 1: it has to be fatal. He could probably have made

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Speaker 1: political hay by being the hero to Maga who released

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Speaker 1: everything and now instead, the number of trump'stey and conspiracy

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Speaker 1: theories will increase daily and exponentially. Not to overweight Marjorie

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Speaker 1: Taylor Green's influence here with too much importance. But a

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Speaker 1: month ago, could you have imagined Democrats seriously, even a

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Speaker 1: their party. She has receded into the background of this,

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Speaker 1: but not for long. Quote. This has been one of

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Speaker 1: the most destructive things to Maga. She now says. Watching

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Speaker 1: this actually turn into a fight has ripped Maga apart. Yes,

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Speaker 1: plays rip away, to paraphrase the immortal manager of the

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Speaker 1: Chicago Cubs, Lee Elia from the Gettysburg Address of Baseball

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Speaker 1: managerial detonations to the media from nineteen eighty three. Rip

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Speaker 1: them mother rippers, rip them ripping ripsuckers, like the ripping

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Speaker 1: players right down town and print it. If you don't

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Speaker 1: know who League Ilia is and you don't know what

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Speaker 1: I'm referring to there about rip them mother rippers. I

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Speaker 1: of the show. I mean, it's it's a little much

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Speaker 1: even now on the internet. To listen to better, you

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Speaker 1: go to YouTube or wherever you get your m efforts,

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Speaker 1: because he goes and he uses the word rip rip

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Speaker 1: mega part rip them mother rippers. The next maga ripping

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Speaker 1: rage against Trump. Let me just repeat that, disaber, the

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Speaker 1: deliciousness of that phrase, the next maga ripping rage against Trump.

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Speaker 1: It's so obvious even he said it would crash his

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Speaker 1: pull numbers. Yesterday he told the US Saudi Investment summit,

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Speaker 1: that the Saudi's trillion dollar loll investment, their entire economy

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Speaker 1: your country. That the Saudi investment will generate thousands of

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Speaker 1: jobs in Arizona. For Saudi's quote, you can't come in

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Speaker 1: This is maga. He then said. Anybody who didn't understand

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Speaker 1: the idea that their swami sees them as just idiots

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Speaker 1: clear the Saudi dictator Muhammad bin Saun of the Kashagi

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Speaker 1: he ordered it. Basically said the man had it coming.

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Speaker 1: Besides that disaster, end immigration by increasing immigration, and buy

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Speaker 1: more bone saws. Almost no other current headline does not

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Speaker 1: make Trump look like a limp Putts diplomacy. We guess

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Speaker 1: which war Trump isn't gonna solve in the next sixty

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Speaker 1: seconds like those other eight trillion wars he solved this year. Ukraine,

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Speaker 1: The deal is, oh, look, it's the same shit Putin

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Speaker 1: has told him to shove down Zelenski's throat since last February.

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Speaker 1: don't forget the V in MAGA stands for vendetta. The

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Speaker 1: Trump doj strategy here was a cross between Franz Kafka's

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Speaker 1: now be dismissed with prejudice as in no refiling, and

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Speaker 1: the price is right, pointing at the Plinko board. Thank you, Lindsay,

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Speaker 1: Lindsay Halligan looks like a pound Milania a pound, Alena

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Speaker 1: And I owe Miss Lucy an apology. I heard that

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Speaker 1: he was trying to say Peggy. I don't know Peggy

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Speaker 1: was Peggy from a right wing outlet. I'm sorry, Miss Lucy.

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Speaker 1: I should have hit Trump for it Monday, especially for

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Speaker 1: the simple fact of how appalling it is that he

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Speaker 1: One more headline disastrous for lame Donald Duck. Then we'll

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Speaker 1: The video if you have not seen it, is six

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427
00:30:32,635 --> 00:30:37,155
Speaker 1: trip wire of my veins. There is nothing there. There

428
00:30:37,195 --> 00:30:42,035
Speaker 1: is nothing there because I loaded a gun. I loaded

429
00:30:42,035 --> 00:30:46,235
Speaker 1: a gun and set it on my nightstand. You recall

430
00:30:46,395 --> 00:30:48,595
Speaker 1: the statistic that a gun in your home doubles your

431
00:30:48,715 --> 00:30:52,515
Speaker 1: chances of dying by homicide. Still, I loaded a gun.

432
00:30:52,915 --> 00:30:56,275
Speaker 1: I loaded a gun and set it on my nightstand.

433
00:30:59,795 --> 00:31:02,835
Speaker 1: Context ad number one. Olivia didn't used to drive, let

434
00:31:02,875 --> 00:31:05,275
Speaker 1: alone own a gun. Would you give me a weapon

435
00:31:05,475 --> 00:31:08,555
Speaker 1: like a car, She asked, me once. Now she has

436
00:31:08,595 --> 00:31:11,035
Speaker 1: a car, she lets the New York Times shoot glamour

437
00:31:11,155 --> 00:31:16,115
Speaker 1: videos of her driving, and she has a gun. The

438
00:31:16,155 --> 00:31:18,875
Speaker 1: woman who once felt a car was too dangerous a

439
00:31:18,915 --> 00:31:21,395
Speaker 1: weapon to give her she has a car, she has

440
00:31:21,475 --> 00:31:24,275
Speaker 1: a gun, and yet, based on the publicity photos for

441
00:31:24,435 --> 00:31:29,315
Speaker 1: this book, still with a gun, somebody managed to steal

442
00:31:29,515 --> 00:31:36,115
Speaker 1: her eyebrows. All right, I lied, I have to read

443
00:31:36,195 --> 00:31:42,715
Speaker 1: one more unbelievably bad paragraph. Like all men, but more so,

444
00:31:43,355 --> 00:31:47,355
Speaker 1: he was a hunter in a literal sense. He used

445
00:31:47,355 --> 00:31:50,635
Speaker 1: not a bullet but a bird. It was not about

446
00:31:50,635 --> 00:31:53,315
Speaker 1: a chase, but about a puzzle of logic and skill

447
00:31:53,515 --> 00:31:57,195
Speaker 1: that amounted to a test of his self mastery. I

448
00:31:57,195 --> 00:31:59,155
Speaker 1: don't like where this is going. I don't like the

449
00:31:59,155 --> 00:32:03,155
Speaker 1: word mastery. He was the mouse and the architect of

450
00:32:03,155 --> 00:32:06,355
Speaker 1: his maize, the giver of his own pleasure and torment.

451
00:32:06,635 --> 00:32:12,875
Speaker 1: He desired, He desired desiring, He desired being desired. He

452
00:32:12,995 --> 00:32:18,355
Speaker 1: desired desire itself. I'm waiting here for the part about

453
00:32:18,355 --> 00:32:20,195
Speaker 1: how he got caught doing this on a street car

454
00:32:20,275 --> 00:32:22,755
Speaker 1: name desire, but she didn't put that in there. I

455
00:32:22,835 --> 00:32:25,955
Speaker 1: understood this, just as I came to understand the range

456
00:32:26,435 --> 00:32:29,555
Speaker 1: of his kinks and complexes and how they fit within

457
00:32:29,635 --> 00:32:33,675
Speaker 1: what I thought I understood of his soul. The spark,

458
00:32:34,155 --> 00:32:40,035
Speaker 1: the flame, the rumor fulfilled, the labyrinth on fire, the

459
00:32:40,075 --> 00:32:45,275
Speaker 1: Palisades fire, rain in places, fog patches on the coast,

460
00:32:45,555 --> 00:32:48,955
Speaker 1: high in the mid fifties, Tonight in Sports, Cowboys thirty three,

461
00:32:49,315 --> 00:32:56,875
Speaker 1: Raiders sixteen. Now back to k fog Okay. Now for

462
00:32:56,995 --> 00:33:05,235
Speaker 1: the surprise, the editorial reply by her ex fiance, Ryan Lize.

463
00:33:05,515 --> 00:33:08,275
Speaker 1: I never liked him. What I've said about his work

464
00:33:08,315 --> 00:33:11,635
Speaker 1: predates Olivia, and it didn't get meaner or worse because

465
00:33:11,675 --> 00:33:17,595
Speaker 1: of Olivia. She's Olivia. He's a standard issue number thirty

466
00:33:17,595 --> 00:33:22,755
Speaker 1: seven by one six robotic access journalist, size medium. He

467
00:33:22,835 --> 00:33:26,315
Speaker 1: got fired for unspecified sexual pesting by The New Yorker,

468
00:33:26,355 --> 00:33:28,915
Speaker 1: but CNN kept him on for a while as a contributor.

469
00:33:29,635 --> 00:33:32,035
Speaker 1: Before that, he was a guest on Countdown I think

470
00:33:32,035 --> 00:33:35,075
Speaker 1: in two thousand and nine or twenty ten, highly recommended

471
00:33:35,115 --> 00:33:37,275
Speaker 1: because he was a writer and editor at The New Yorker.

472
00:33:37,715 --> 00:33:41,915
Speaker 1: Flat as a surfboard on TV. Not interesting, and I

473
00:33:41,995 --> 00:33:44,235
Speaker 1: gather that is exactly how he felt about doing the

474
00:33:44,235 --> 00:33:49,195
Speaker 1: show again or talking to me again. Fine. I met

475
00:33:49,235 --> 00:33:52,755
Speaker 1: him remotely then two thousand and nine twenty ten. I

476
00:33:52,795 --> 00:33:55,075
Speaker 1: had met Robert F. Kennedy Junior when he phoned me

477
00:33:55,075 --> 00:33:57,435
Speaker 1: in two thousand and four to call me his hero.

478
00:33:58,155 --> 00:34:01,595
Speaker 1: Heady stuff that is, in fact, the only part of

479
00:34:01,635 --> 00:34:05,075
Speaker 1: Olivia's I hang up and listen obsession with him that

480
00:34:05,115 --> 00:34:08,035
Speaker 1: I can process. It turned out Kennedy thought me a

481
00:34:08,075 --> 00:34:11,155
Speaker 1: hero because I had reported on some vote counting irregularity

482
00:34:11,195 --> 00:34:14,315
Speaker 1: in Warren County, Ohio in the presidential election of two

483
00:34:14,355 --> 00:34:17,315
Speaker 1: thousand and four, and that fed his main line addiction

484
00:34:17,395 --> 00:34:20,715
Speaker 1: to conspiracy theories, which I guess I can understand as well,

485
00:34:21,355 --> 00:34:23,435
Speaker 1: given that his father and uncle were both murdered more

486
00:34:23,555 --> 00:34:27,035
Speaker 1: or less live on television when he was a young boy.

487
00:34:29,435 --> 00:34:32,435
Speaker 1: So anyway, there's much more from Liza and his reply

488
00:34:32,595 --> 00:34:34,795
Speaker 1: to which I can add stuff that is either relevant

489
00:34:34,875 --> 00:34:39,075
Speaker 1: or true, because Liza actually wrote about me quote. She

490
00:34:39,235 --> 00:34:41,995
Speaker 1: deceived me for a year and smeared me with false

491
00:34:42,035 --> 00:34:46,835
Speaker 1: allegations and not just little lies, but big fantastical falsehoods, blackmail.

492
00:34:48,275 --> 00:34:51,195
Speaker 1: A former child actor, Olivia always had a keen sense

493
00:34:51,235 --> 00:34:54,635
Speaker 1: for the dramatic. She orchestrated a plot with the help

494
00:34:54,675 --> 00:34:57,275
Speaker 1: of a senior Trump official, to try to have me

495
00:34:57,475 --> 00:35:00,515
Speaker 1: imprisoned and now she's written what appears to be a

496
00:35:00,595 --> 00:35:07,355
Speaker 1: largely fictitious and self serving account about it. All checks

497
00:35:07,355 --> 00:35:10,795
Speaker 1: out a couple things, though, bro The facts are a

498
00:35:10,795 --> 00:35:15,435
Speaker 1: little hazy, But Olivia used to proudly talk to me

499
00:35:15,475 --> 00:35:20,755
Speaker 1: about having gotten her entire teenaged singing career scrubbed off

500
00:35:20,835 --> 00:35:29,035
Speaker 1: the net. Quote offensive, vapid, frothy, bubblegum, outrageous, morally bankrupt,

501
00:35:29,275 --> 00:35:33,195
Speaker 1: and undeniably infectious. These are just some of the words

502
00:35:33,195 --> 00:35:38,675
Speaker 1: that have been used to describe jail bait and the

503
00:35:38,795 --> 00:35:42,715
Speaker 1: not yet legal mind behind it, sixteen year old singer

504
00:35:42,915 --> 00:35:49,075
Speaker 1: songwriter Livy. You know who Livy turned out to be

505
00:35:51,715 --> 00:35:54,035
Speaker 1: quoting her. I know that people are going to hear

506
00:35:54,075 --> 00:35:56,395
Speaker 1: the song once see my photo and immediately come to

507
00:35:56,395 --> 00:35:58,635
Speaker 1: the conclusion that I'm a brain dead blow up doll,

508
00:35:58,755 --> 00:36:01,475
Speaker 1: like so many pop tarts before me. And that's great.

509
00:36:01,515 --> 00:36:05,355
Speaker 1: It's fabulous, Livy says, no intellect is necessary to listen

510
00:36:05,395 --> 00:36:08,635
Speaker 1: to my music. It's pop, it's fun, it's danceable. But

511
00:36:08,795 --> 00:36:12,035
Speaker 1: at its core, this song is a social commentary. It

512
00:36:12,155 --> 00:36:17,755
Speaker 1: just happens to be insanely catching though just a teenager.

513
00:36:17,955 --> 00:36:21,875
Speaker 1: The press release about her goes on Livy has had

514
00:36:21,915 --> 00:36:25,395
Speaker 1: some experience in the world of entertainment, or maybe that

515
00:36:25,395 --> 00:36:28,235
Speaker 1: should be read. Livy has had some experience in the

516
00:36:28,235 --> 00:36:31,835
Speaker 1: world of entertainment, beginning her career as a child model

517
00:36:31,875 --> 00:36:34,795
Speaker 1: at the age of five, she quickly moved into acting,

518
00:36:34,915 --> 00:36:38,955
Speaker 1: ultimately appearing in a succession of commercials, films, and television shows.

519
00:36:39,115 --> 00:36:41,715
Speaker 1: The camera exposure had a profound effect on the young

520
00:36:41,755 --> 00:36:46,875
Speaker 1: attention seeker. Livvy became obsessed with Hollywood, MTV, and subsequently

521
00:36:46,915 --> 00:36:52,235
Speaker 1: with pop music. I'm not even going to try to

522
00:36:52,275 --> 00:36:56,995
Speaker 1: address the potential serious consequences of this history about her

523
00:36:57,075 --> 00:37:01,275
Speaker 1: that I did not know. Lord knows how many kids

524
00:37:01,395 --> 00:37:05,355
Speaker 1: go into entertainment, especially girls at that age, and do

525
00:37:05,475 --> 00:37:07,755
Speaker 1: not come out the same person, if they come out

526
00:37:07,875 --> 00:37:11,195
Speaker 1: at all. I hope none of that is true. I

527
00:37:11,235 --> 00:37:14,435
Speaker 1: don't know, because in my defense, I saw that that

528
00:37:14,515 --> 00:37:18,115
Speaker 1: I just read to you for the first time Monday.

529
00:37:20,195 --> 00:37:22,435
Speaker 1: All right, back to Lizzie, since I want to stay

530
00:37:22,555 --> 00:37:26,635
Speaker 1: largely to what I know firsthand, and that's not firsthand

531
00:37:26,635 --> 00:37:31,715
Speaker 1: that press release, that's first time I saw it, Liza writes,

532
00:37:32,035 --> 00:37:35,435
Speaker 1: quote silence was my preference, and Olivia seemed to agree.

533
00:37:35,555 --> 00:37:38,915
Speaker 1: Last year, she asked to negotiate a non disclosure agreement.

534
00:37:39,515 --> 00:37:42,115
Speaker 1: Earlier this year, she sent a message to me by

535
00:37:42,155 --> 00:37:44,755
Speaker 1: a mutual friend, I will never talk about any of

536
00:37:44,795 --> 00:37:46,955
Speaker 1: this again, and I hope you will do the same.

537
00:37:47,955 --> 00:37:50,515
Speaker 1: I'm not sure if she delivered that before or after

538
00:37:50,715 --> 00:37:53,875
Speaker 1: she had a publication date for her book, arranged a

539
00:37:53,955 --> 00:37:56,435
Speaker 1: Vanity Fair excerpt and secured a profile in the New

540
00:37:56,515 --> 00:38:00,035
Speaker 1: York Times. Either way, it wasn't true, and unfortunately, silence

541
00:38:00,155 --> 00:38:07,715
Speaker 1: no longer seems advisable or even possible. End quote. Yeah, uh,

542
00:38:07,995 --> 00:38:13,995
Speaker 1: she said, we're brothers on this was a consistency. Consistency

543
00:38:14,075 --> 00:38:19,155
Speaker 1: is one politician Olivia has never met. The day we

544
00:38:19,195 --> 00:38:22,075
Speaker 1: broke up, she looked at our two dogs, one of

545
00:38:22,115 --> 00:38:27,115
Speaker 1: whom really adored her and would miss her, and I

546
00:38:27,155 --> 00:38:29,795
Speaker 1: could see it, and then I even have some proof

547
00:38:29,835 --> 00:38:32,515
Speaker 1: of it, would miss her for at least a year.

548
00:38:33,635 --> 00:38:36,435
Speaker 1: And she said, I hope you mean it when when

549
00:38:36,475 --> 00:38:39,595
Speaker 1: you said I can come visit them maybe once a

550
00:38:39,635 --> 00:38:43,355
Speaker 1: week or every other week. And she said, please keep

551
00:38:43,435 --> 00:38:47,275
Speaker 1: on her about trying to arrange those visits. And also,

552
00:38:47,275 --> 00:38:49,715
Speaker 1: if I could, please remind her that her closet in

553
00:38:49,795 --> 00:38:52,955
Speaker 1: our apartment was still full of clothes. Please text, please

554
00:38:52,995 --> 00:38:57,035
Speaker 1: call me, bug me about it. You know, me, and

555
00:38:57,075 --> 00:38:59,155
Speaker 1: when I did both about the dogs and the clothes,

556
00:38:59,475 --> 00:39:06,115
Speaker 1: she accused me of stalking her. As you will hear. Okay,

557
00:39:06,115 --> 00:39:08,875
Speaker 1: more from Ryan Lizzon quote. I was used to cleaning

558
00:39:08,955 --> 00:39:12,035
Speaker 1: up Olivia's messes. Not that long ago, I had helped

559
00:39:12,035 --> 00:39:16,355
Speaker 1: her untangle herself from an unusual relationship with Keith Oldraman,

560
00:39:16,435 --> 00:39:22,315
Speaker 1: the former MSNBC host. What it was was she and

561
00:39:22,355 --> 00:39:26,235
Speaker 1: I lived together, and we had dogs and complimentary tattoos

562
00:39:26,235 --> 00:39:28,555
Speaker 1: and identical commitment rings. And I don't know what was

563
00:39:28,635 --> 00:39:32,115
Speaker 1: unusual about that, besides obviously the age difference, which I'm

564
00:39:32,115 --> 00:39:36,795
Speaker 1: not trying to undersell. Our first date was a dinner

565
00:39:36,835 --> 00:39:41,995
Speaker 1: in October twenty eleven. She was way too young eighteen

566
00:39:43,875 --> 00:39:46,675
Speaker 1: getting towards nineteen, but not you know, like not next

567
00:39:46,675 --> 00:39:49,795
Speaker 1: week nineteen. And I was way too old, fifty two

568
00:39:49,875 --> 00:39:52,435
Speaker 1: and not getting any younger. On the other hand, I

569
00:39:52,435 --> 00:39:56,235
Speaker 1: always take relationships slow anyway, this one even more so

570
00:39:57,155 --> 00:40:00,795
Speaker 1: for that reason, until I was sure she really did

571
00:40:01,515 --> 00:40:06,315
Speaker 1: as cynical and hateful of people as we were. I

572
00:40:06,355 --> 00:40:08,155
Speaker 1: wanted to make sure she really did love me like

573
00:40:08,195 --> 00:40:10,075
Speaker 1: she said, and then I really did love her like

574
00:40:10,155 --> 00:40:17,395
Speaker 1: I said, and we did. So I waited, we didn't

575
00:40:17,435 --> 00:40:20,075
Speaker 1: wind up on to use a phrase from somebody else

576
00:40:20,115 --> 00:40:22,475
Speaker 1: who will appear in this mini series, we didn't wind

577
00:40:22,555 --> 00:40:26,515
Speaker 1: up on the Appalachian Trail until the next spring or summer,

578
00:40:26,555 --> 00:40:29,835
Speaker 1: when she was like nineteen and a half. To keep

579
00:40:29,875 --> 00:40:32,835
Speaker 1: the precise numbers in play. And by the way, RFK

580
00:40:33,035 --> 00:40:35,595
Speaker 1: Junior is older than I am, so my favorite joke

581
00:40:35,595 --> 00:40:37,955
Speaker 1: about all this is turned out I was too young

582
00:40:38,035 --> 00:40:43,355
Speaker 1: for Olivia. It was not an unusual relationship. By the

583
00:40:43,475 --> 00:40:46,315
Speaker 1: fourteenth month of the thing, her parents were having me

584
00:40:46,435 --> 00:40:53,035
Speaker 1: over for family Christmas at their house in New Jersey. Them, Olivia,

585
00:40:53,515 --> 00:40:58,715
Speaker 1: her brother, her brother's girlfriend, me, their dogs, our dogs.

586
00:40:59,195 --> 00:41:05,875
Speaker 1: That was it the family. It was a most impossibly

587
00:41:06,835 --> 00:41:12,195
Speaker 1: domestic I thought it was going well at that point.

588
00:41:13,035 --> 00:41:16,275
Speaker 1: All right back to Liza about me. She had messaged

589
00:41:16,355 --> 00:41:18,955
Speaker 1: him out of the blue, him as me in this sentence.

590
00:41:19,115 --> 00:41:22,795
Speaker 1: They started talking, and soon after she fled her unhappy

591
00:41:22,835 --> 00:41:26,035
Speaker 1: home in suburban New Jersey and started living with Keith

592
00:41:26,075 --> 00:41:30,115
Speaker 1: in Manhattan. He paid for her to attend college, outfitted

593
00:41:30,115 --> 00:41:33,515
Speaker 1: her in tom Ford a rve Leger dresses and some

594
00:41:33,715 --> 00:41:44,035
Speaker 1: fifteen thousand dollars worth of Cardier jewelry. I must interrupt

595
00:41:44,075 --> 00:41:46,195
Speaker 1: here to say that. I was a little surprised when

596
00:41:46,235 --> 00:41:48,955
Speaker 1: I read this to find out that ten years after

597
00:41:48,995 --> 00:41:53,195
Speaker 1: Olivia Newsy and I broke up, her next ex boyfriend

598
00:41:53,315 --> 00:41:56,675
Speaker 1: happened to have at his fingertips the amount of money

599
00:41:56,755 --> 00:42:03,875
Speaker 1: I spent on her at Cardier. How does that happen?

600
00:42:06,795 --> 00:42:12,115
Speaker 1: I barely can remember where I was working in twenty fifteen. Now,

601
00:42:12,235 --> 00:42:14,515
Speaker 1: what Liza is missing here is that most of that

602
00:42:15,115 --> 00:42:18,955
Speaker 1: fifteen thousand dollars, which sounds right to me, went to

603
00:42:19,035 --> 00:42:21,875
Speaker 1: those matching commitment rings I keep mentioning, and so like

604
00:42:21,955 --> 00:42:25,315
Speaker 1: half the money was actually me spending money on me

605
00:42:25,635 --> 00:42:27,515
Speaker 1: and so as to the rest of us. We were

606
00:42:27,555 --> 00:42:30,075
Speaker 1: together for three years plus, but that included four of

607
00:42:30,115 --> 00:42:34,035
Speaker 1: her birthdays, four Christmases, and three of our anniversaries. So

608
00:42:34,195 --> 00:42:38,675
Speaker 1: in reality I spent like seven hundred dollars per celebration

609
00:42:38,875 --> 00:42:42,395
Speaker 1: on her, and I was being paid a lot of

610
00:42:42,435 --> 00:42:48,635
Speaker 1: money in my jobs. I mean, what's the Ryan Liza

611
00:42:48,715 --> 00:42:51,915
Speaker 1: norm here? What Ryan? I should have gotten her some

612
00:42:51,955 --> 00:42:59,395
Speaker 1: Walmart gift cards Merry Christmas more Liza. Later, he covered

613
00:42:59,395 --> 00:43:02,235
Speaker 1: her rent and furnished her apartment in a doorman building

614
00:43:02,275 --> 00:43:07,035
Speaker 1: in the West Village. All right, I gave her a

615
00:43:07,115 --> 00:43:12,795
Speaker 1: chair and one pictured to hang on the walls. He's

616
00:43:12,875 --> 00:43:15,795
Speaker 1: left something key out of this that's probably more important

617
00:43:15,795 --> 00:43:18,155
Speaker 1: than the chair or the picture. And I'll give him

618
00:43:18,155 --> 00:43:21,075
Speaker 1: the benefit of the doubt here because largely his tone

619
00:43:21,115 --> 00:43:24,475
Speaker 1: towards me was not as snarky as mine would have

620
00:43:24,515 --> 00:43:28,155
Speaker 1: been about him, or I guess is about him, So

621
00:43:28,275 --> 00:43:31,755
Speaker 1: good for him, I'll just assume he didn't know any

622
00:43:31,795 --> 00:43:36,995
Speaker 1: of this. Next stuff about the apartments plural. Olivia lived

623
00:43:37,035 --> 00:43:39,435
Speaker 1: with me, got her hair done in our apartment when

624
00:43:39,435 --> 00:43:41,635
Speaker 1: my old friend from MSNBC used to come over to

625
00:43:41,675 --> 00:43:44,315
Speaker 1: cut mine. She played with the dogs in our apartment.

626
00:43:44,395 --> 00:43:47,075
Speaker 1: She got her pharmacy deliveries in our apartment, ironically was

627
00:43:47,075 --> 00:43:50,115
Speaker 1: in a Trump building. And then when she was going

628
00:43:50,155 --> 00:43:54,195
Speaker 1: to Fordham University, she found she liked also having a

629
00:43:54,315 --> 00:43:57,195
Speaker 1: dorm room, a place of her own. She never had

630
00:43:57,195 --> 00:44:01,395
Speaker 1: that before. And then when she left Fordham, she told

631
00:44:01,435 --> 00:44:03,995
Speaker 1: me they had asked her to leave, in the same

632
00:44:04,035 --> 00:44:06,915
Speaker 1: way she had told me Catholic University in Washington had

633
00:44:06,995 --> 00:44:11,555
Speaker 1: asked her to leave. She managed somehow, though she wasn't

634
00:44:11,595 --> 00:44:14,635
Speaker 1: going to Fordham anymore, she managed to keep the Fordham

635
00:44:14,675 --> 00:44:16,915
Speaker 1: dorm room for a while until they finally figured it out.

636
00:44:16,955 --> 00:44:18,875
Speaker 1: So now she asked if I would help her get

637
00:44:18,875 --> 00:44:21,315
Speaker 1: a studio apartment on the West Side where she could

638
00:44:21,315 --> 00:44:25,155
Speaker 1: write and she could tell her friends who she didn't

639
00:44:25,195 --> 00:44:27,315
Speaker 1: want to know about us, this is where I live.

640
00:44:27,795 --> 00:44:31,795
Speaker 1: And I thought that was a good idea, and even

641
00:44:31,835 --> 00:44:36,395
Speaker 1: if it wasn't a big deal, we found something safe

642
00:44:36,675 --> 00:44:39,555
Speaker 1: and relatively cheap. And then a couple months later, Olivia

643
00:44:39,595 --> 00:44:41,955
Speaker 1: did something which I'm not prepared to share the details

644
00:44:42,315 --> 00:44:44,755
Speaker 1: of it with you. Maybe it would be wise for

645
00:44:44,795 --> 00:44:47,115
Speaker 1: me to do that later, but not now. It was

646
00:44:48,195 --> 00:44:50,275
Speaker 1: I think this is the best phrase I've ever come

647
00:44:50,355 --> 00:44:58,395
Speaker 1: up to describe this, a behavioral event, an aberration where

648
00:44:58,435 --> 00:45:02,235
Speaker 1: she kind of freaked out, and the end result endangered

649
00:45:02,275 --> 00:45:05,235
Speaker 1: her life and her career and maybe my career, And

650
00:45:05,275 --> 00:45:08,795
Speaker 1: somehow none of those things happened. She beat the odds

651
00:45:08,835 --> 00:45:14,075
Speaker 1: at every stage, but the landlord at her place was

652
00:45:14,075 --> 00:45:17,195
Speaker 1: not happy with what happened and they terminated her lease.

653
00:45:18,915 --> 00:45:21,915
Speaker 1: Yeah bad, Then we got her the place in the

654
00:45:21,915 --> 00:45:26,355
Speaker 1: West Village bad enough. This was that what it was.

655
00:45:26,435 --> 00:45:28,755
Speaker 1: Eventually led to the end of the relationship because I

656
00:45:28,875 --> 00:45:33,555
Speaker 1: spent the last five months with her insisting this was

657
00:45:33,595 --> 00:45:38,155
Speaker 1: an aberration. This just wasn't drink or something or cold.

658
00:45:40,155 --> 00:45:43,795
Speaker 1: I said, you need to see professionals about why this happened.

659
00:45:43,795 --> 00:45:46,835
Speaker 1: I'm very worried for you. I love you and I

660
00:45:46,875 --> 00:45:50,395
Speaker 1: want you to be okay. And that was not okay.

661
00:45:51,875 --> 00:45:54,115
Speaker 1: You need to find out why what happened had happened.

662
00:45:54,115 --> 00:45:56,635
Speaker 1: And she wouldn't do it. And eventually she got tired

663
00:45:56,675 --> 00:45:59,035
Speaker 1: of hearing me tell her to do it and to

664
00:45:59,075 --> 00:46:01,435
Speaker 1: tell her she would always be at risk at any

665
00:46:01,475 --> 00:46:04,235
Speaker 1: moment of a career ending event. Oh no, thank god,

666
00:46:04,275 --> 00:46:07,875
Speaker 1: that did happen. With RFK Junior, we're threatening to get

667
00:46:07,955 --> 00:46:15,755
Speaker 1: Liza jailed or now Governor Sanford, which among you is next?

668
00:46:17,435 --> 00:46:20,475
Speaker 1: Back to lizib quote. While Keith, who was thirty four

669
00:46:20,555 --> 00:46:25,595
Speaker 1: years older, was generous, there were strings attached. This is

670
00:46:25,635 --> 00:46:29,395
Speaker 1: where Ryan Lizza loses me. First off, he's nearly nineteen

671
00:46:29,475 --> 00:46:33,395
Speaker 1: years older than Olivia. Plus he dyes his hair and

672
00:46:33,435 --> 00:46:36,275
Speaker 1: he tries to look hip and cool, so I think

673
00:46:36,275 --> 00:46:40,115
Speaker 1: that erases the actual difference in ages between him and me. Also,

674
00:46:40,155 --> 00:46:42,235
Speaker 1: I have no idea what he's talking about with the

675
00:46:42,235 --> 00:46:45,515
Speaker 1: there were strings attached. The most invasive I ever got

676
00:46:45,675 --> 00:46:48,075
Speaker 1: with Olivia was let me know if you're staying here

677
00:46:48,115 --> 00:46:51,075
Speaker 1: tonight or you're gonna be at your place so I

678
00:46:51,075 --> 00:46:55,235
Speaker 1: can turn the lights off or leave them on, literally

679
00:46:56,715 --> 00:47:00,075
Speaker 1: Liza again. Olivia had concealed the relationship from me and

680
00:47:00,155 --> 00:47:02,435
Speaker 1: other friends, but one day she told me everything too

681
00:47:02,515 --> 00:47:05,635
Speaker 1: much actually, and to get there we hatched a plan

682
00:47:05,715 --> 00:47:10,515
Speaker 1: for her escape about that phrase too much. It's funny

683
00:47:10,835 --> 00:47:14,115
Speaker 1: that the premise of Ryan Lizz's reply to Olivia Newsy

684
00:47:14,235 --> 00:47:17,995
Speaker 1: is that she is an unreliable narrator and constantly lied

685
00:47:18,075 --> 00:47:20,395
Speaker 1: to him. Yet it does not seem to have occurred

686
00:47:20,395 --> 00:47:22,115
Speaker 1: to him at any point that she might have lied

687
00:47:22,155 --> 00:47:26,315
Speaker 1: to him about me. I have no idea what plan

688
00:47:26,475 --> 00:47:30,715
Speaker 1: there was for her to escape. This is what happened,

689
00:47:31,315 --> 00:47:34,355
Speaker 1: five months of me saying, please please talk to somebody.

690
00:47:34,355 --> 00:47:37,315
Speaker 1: That's not what you think it was. It's serious stuff.

691
00:47:38,395 --> 00:47:41,195
Speaker 1: Then one Thursday night we argued about getting help, and

692
00:47:41,235 --> 00:47:43,555
Speaker 1: I said, all right, I've done all I can do here,

693
00:47:43,595 --> 00:47:46,795
Speaker 1: maybe we should call this off, and she didn't want to.

694
00:47:47,035 --> 00:47:49,115
Speaker 1: And then the next day I had second thoughts and

695
00:47:49,155 --> 00:47:52,315
Speaker 1: a lot of guilt about there being nobody there left

696
00:47:52,355 --> 00:47:55,995
Speaker 1: to look out for her, and we made up. That's Friday.

697
00:47:56,035 --> 00:47:58,075
Speaker 1: Then Saturday she was back in Jersey with her folks

698
00:47:58,075 --> 00:48:00,755
Speaker 1: and Then on Sunday she arrived announced we were both

699
00:48:00,795 --> 00:48:03,795
Speaker 1: miserable and we were breaking up, and she left and

700
00:48:03,835 --> 00:48:06,995
Speaker 1: I haven't seen her since. I think we talked twice

701
00:48:07,035 --> 00:48:10,435
Speaker 1: on the phone after that. I was trying to talk

702
00:48:10,475 --> 00:48:13,635
Speaker 1: to her about the clothes and the dogs. Then she

703
00:48:13,715 --> 00:48:16,715
Speaker 1: ghosted me, which made the clothes and the dogs thing impossible.

704
00:48:17,675 --> 00:48:21,275
Speaker 1: And yes, am I angry at all. I'm still angry,

705
00:48:21,315 --> 00:48:25,995
Speaker 1: and I have not forgiven her about the dogs. Rose

706
00:48:26,035 --> 00:48:32,595
Speaker 1: in particular missed her. That was the plan, Ryan, Wow,

707
00:48:32,635 --> 00:48:35,155
Speaker 1: this sounds more complicated than D Day. How did you

708
00:48:35,195 --> 00:48:39,035
Speaker 1: remember all of it? Unless the plan was the one

709
00:48:39,075 --> 00:48:41,635
Speaker 1: that let her keep all the stuff I gave her

710
00:48:41,875 --> 00:48:46,595
Speaker 1: to outfit her apartment, a chair and a picture, or

711
00:48:46,635 --> 00:48:48,475
Speaker 1: maybe it was a different plan for her to get

712
00:48:48,515 --> 00:48:50,355
Speaker 1: all of her clothes, only she never did that, and

713
00:48:50,395 --> 00:48:54,075
Speaker 1: I wound up donating them to charity, which she complained

714
00:48:54,115 --> 00:48:56,435
Speaker 1: to her mother about. And by the way, for a

715
00:48:56,515 --> 00:48:58,715
Speaker 1: year after we broke up, her mother continued to come

716
00:48:58,715 --> 00:49:01,555
Speaker 1: into New York to babysit the dogs whenever I would

717
00:49:01,595 --> 00:49:07,115
Speaker 1: leave town. Her mother's we're very upset that you guys

718
00:49:07,155 --> 00:49:09,795
Speaker 1: have broken up. We always knew she was safe with you.

719
00:49:12,555 --> 00:49:15,755
Speaker 1: Her mother and her father took my side in the breakup.

720
00:49:16,795 --> 00:49:19,835
Speaker 1: More Liza, when friends asked why I never responded to

721
00:49:19,915 --> 00:49:23,755
Speaker 1: Keith's public attacks on me and Olivia he means tweets,

722
00:49:24,155 --> 00:49:27,035
Speaker 1: I explained that she had felt stalked by Keith after

723
00:49:27,115 --> 00:49:29,915
Speaker 1: she left him, and we had a strict policy of

724
00:49:29,995 --> 00:49:36,275
Speaker 1: never engaging with him. Two things here, I don't read

725
00:49:36,315 --> 00:49:39,155
Speaker 1: the replies, so it's the first time I ever found

726
00:49:39,195 --> 00:49:42,115
Speaker 1: out that they didn't reply. And as I said, I

727
00:49:42,155 --> 00:49:44,715
Speaker 1: attacked Ryan Liza long before I ever heard of Olivia

728
00:49:44,795 --> 00:49:51,595
Speaker 1: Newsy self satisfied terrible in TV it Happens, And then

729
00:49:51,715 --> 00:49:55,955
Speaker 1: under his tutelage, Olivia gradually crumbled from the most gifted, young,

730
00:49:56,155 --> 00:49:59,275
Speaker 1: critical but not cynical writer in American politics to just

731
00:49:59,315 --> 00:50:02,955
Speaker 1: another access journalist who never for a moment understood that

732
00:50:03,035 --> 00:50:05,715
Speaker 1: the point of what she was writing was inform, not

733
00:50:05,875 --> 00:50:08,875
Speaker 1: to complete a great paragraph. That she was not writing

734
00:50:08,915 --> 00:50:11,835
Speaker 1: a story. She was writing information vital to the continuation

735
00:50:11,875 --> 00:50:14,555
Speaker 1: of the American democracy, and she seemed to have forgotten

736
00:50:14,595 --> 00:50:21,675
Speaker 1: that entirely while with Ryan lism Oh. In that word stalking,

737
00:50:22,675 --> 00:50:25,195
Speaker 1: I didn't mention that first because I don't give it

738
00:50:25,235 --> 00:50:27,235
Speaker 1: a lot of weight. Here and here again. I feel

739
00:50:27,235 --> 00:50:30,755
Speaker 1: a little sorry for Ryan because he's under informed. When

740
00:50:30,755 --> 00:50:34,835
Speaker 1: Olivia went to The Daily Beast, they started sending her

741
00:50:34,915 --> 00:50:37,075
Speaker 1: and by the way, I negotiated her contract with them,

742
00:50:37,115 --> 00:50:38,515
Speaker 1: they didn't know that at the time.

743
00:50:38,995 --> 00:50:39,355
Speaker 3: Harhar.

744
00:50:40,555 --> 00:50:43,395
Speaker 1: They started sending her to Washington to cover stories there,

745
00:50:43,395 --> 00:50:47,035
Speaker 1: and she would FaceTime me. Yeah, Olivia is a big

746
00:50:47,075 --> 00:50:53,235
Speaker 1: FaceTime gal, Bobby Junior, can you back me up on that? Anyway?

747
00:50:53,315 --> 00:50:55,435
Speaker 1: She would say, there's this guy down here from the

748
00:50:55,475 --> 00:51:00,395
Speaker 1: New Yorker. Do you know him? He's stalking me? Ryan Liza, Ryan,

749
00:51:00,475 --> 00:51:05,635
Speaker 1: Lizza my stalker. Bottom line here is, while Olivia was

750
00:51:05,635 --> 00:51:07,955
Speaker 1: claiming to Liza that I was stalking her, she was

751
00:51:07,995 --> 00:51:12,355
Speaker 1: claiming to me that Liza was stalking her. It's a

752
00:51:12,395 --> 00:51:18,675
Speaker 1: big tent. She also had a reader from her days

753
00:51:18,755 --> 00:51:22,035
Speaker 1: at The Daily Beast and before that that she insisted

754
00:51:22,115 --> 00:51:24,275
Speaker 1: was stalking her. And then, to my surprise, and when

755
00:51:24,275 --> 00:51:27,155
Speaker 1: I say surprise, I mean not at all surprised, she

756
00:51:27,395 --> 00:51:31,195
Speaker 1: and Liza were suddenly dating and writing sappy entries on

757
00:51:31,275 --> 00:51:36,315
Speaker 1: Facebook together. And fine, I was dating too, not them,

758
00:51:36,395 --> 00:51:39,835
Speaker 1: I'll be other. I was just dating. But the Facebook

759
00:51:39,875 --> 00:51:44,875
Speaker 1: post somebody sent me was accompanied with isn't this next

760
00:51:44,875 --> 00:51:50,115
Speaker 1: to your house. The two of them were posing at

761
00:51:50,235 --> 00:51:55,115
Speaker 1: their tree in Central Park, which was not just near

762
00:51:55,155 --> 00:51:57,475
Speaker 1: my house, but it was on the path I walked

763
00:51:57,515 --> 00:52:02,155
Speaker 1: the dogs every day. For a moment, a fleeting moment,

764
00:52:02,155 --> 00:52:06,275
Speaker 1: I thought, oh good, now she's stalking me. I actually

765
00:52:06,315 --> 00:52:08,755
Speaker 1: wrote on the Facebook page something like, I don't want

766
00:52:08,795 --> 00:52:10,635
Speaker 1: to run into you anymore than you don't want to

767
00:52:10,715 --> 00:52:14,075
Speaker 1: run into me. I will avoid your tree, but just

768
00:52:14,315 --> 00:52:17,755
Speaker 1: you know, look out. You are literally hanging out three

769
00:52:17,835 --> 00:52:20,915
Speaker 1: minutes from my new apartment, and the dogs and I

770
00:52:20,955 --> 00:52:29,235
Speaker 1: go by there every day. One more Lizic quote. Olivia

771
00:52:29,315 --> 00:52:31,635
Speaker 1: wanted to get married in the next few years before

772
00:52:31,675 --> 00:52:35,435
Speaker 1: I'm old, she would say, meaning thirty, and our Georgetown

773
00:52:35,515 --> 00:52:38,595
Speaker 1: chapter was a test run for whether that might work.

774
00:52:39,875 --> 00:52:40,075
Speaker 2: Well.

775
00:52:40,155 --> 00:52:42,435
Speaker 1: I don't doubt that for a minute, because it is

776
00:52:42,475 --> 00:52:44,635
Speaker 1: almost word for word what she said to me, either

777
00:52:44,635 --> 00:52:49,035
Speaker 1: in twenty thirteen or fourteen before her behavioral event. Her

778
00:52:49,075 --> 00:52:52,715
Speaker 1: aberration pretty much crossed that off the list of possibilities.

779
00:52:54,675 --> 00:52:57,395
Speaker 1: Living with me in the Trump Building was our test run.

780
00:52:58,755 --> 00:53:05,555
Speaker 1: She talked about kids maybe, but marriage definitely, though her

781
00:53:05,595 --> 00:53:10,315
Speaker 1: stories about RFK Junior, or about kids and impregnating her

782
00:53:10,595 --> 00:53:15,915
Speaker 1: definitely in marriage maybe, even though he's already married. Do

783
00:53:15,995 --> 00:53:19,915
Speaker 1: you see a pattern here? The rest of Ryan Liza's story,

784
00:53:20,395 --> 00:53:23,955
Speaker 1: Part two is still pending. As I recorded. This was

785
00:53:23,995 --> 00:53:26,115
Speaker 1: the surprise ending where he says it turns out she

786
00:53:26,155 --> 00:53:28,875
Speaker 1: did the whole RFK bit in twenty nineteen with Governor

787
00:53:28,875 --> 00:53:31,515
Speaker 1: Mark Sandford, and both of those echo the idea that

788
00:53:31,555 --> 00:53:34,355
Speaker 1: her relationship with Lisam may have overlapped the one with me.

789
00:53:35,035 --> 00:53:38,355
Speaker 1: But even if it didn't, she was telling him that

790
00:53:38,675 --> 00:53:41,115
Speaker 1: I was stalking her, and she was telling me that

791
00:53:41,235 --> 00:53:46,235
Speaker 1: he was stalking her. Maybe Part two will explain why

792
00:53:46,275 --> 00:53:49,835
Speaker 1: he stayed with her. Liza does get props for setting

793
00:53:49,875 --> 00:53:52,195
Speaker 1: up his surprise ending, though it was pointed out to

794
00:53:52,235 --> 00:53:56,755
Speaker 1: me also that really observant spectators to this fourteen month

795
00:53:56,795 --> 00:54:01,035
Speaker 1: long slow motion political media car crash will have already

796
00:54:01,235 --> 00:54:07,075
Speaker 1: noticed that Liza foreshadowed what he wrote this past Monday.

797
00:54:08,035 --> 00:54:12,355
Speaker 1: On October fifteenth of twenty twenty four, writer Nick Field

798
00:54:12,515 --> 00:54:16,435
Speaker 1: took soundings in the legal filings when Olivia was trying

799
00:54:16,435 --> 00:54:20,395
Speaker 1: to get Ryan indicted or tased by the FBI, or

800
00:54:20,715 --> 00:54:25,395
Speaker 1: god knows what, and mister Field noted this quote. I

801
00:54:25,515 --> 00:54:28,515
Speaker 1: did tell miss Newzy Liz the Wrights that I thought

802
00:54:28,595 --> 00:54:31,635
Speaker 1: she should be responsible for paying back our book advance,

803
00:54:31,995 --> 00:54:35,795
Speaker 1: since this is the second presidential cycle in a row

804
00:54:36,555 --> 00:54:42,395
Speaker 1: where ms Newzy's personal indiscretions have sabotaged our book project.

805
00:54:43,315 --> 00:54:47,275
Speaker 1: Mister Field succinctly adds two words to this quotation, and

806
00:54:47,315 --> 00:54:56,315
Speaker 1: they are second time very good, Nickfield, very good? How

807
00:54:56,315 --> 00:54:58,755
Speaker 1: can you not be a detective Nick Field with that

808
00:54:58,875 --> 00:55:03,395
Speaker 1: name and that insight any who? I don't know where

809
00:55:03,395 --> 00:55:06,355
Speaker 1: all this leaves a Olivia, and that makes me sad.

810
00:55:06,995 --> 00:55:11,355
Speaker 1: Maybe Liz's Part two, if it ever happens, will clarify something.

811
00:55:12,475 --> 00:55:15,355
Speaker 1: But media people hated them to begin with because they

812
00:55:15,355 --> 00:55:18,875
Speaker 1: were so consciously and shamelessly trying to become a reporting

813
00:55:19,195 --> 00:55:23,595
Speaker 1: power couple, and he was so sadly trying to exploit

814
00:55:23,635 --> 00:55:27,395
Speaker 1: her rising star as his decline from The New Yorker

815
00:55:27,955 --> 00:55:34,995
Speaker 1: to overnight editing at Politico. I mean, I didn't try

816
00:55:35,115 --> 00:55:41,155
Speaker 1: to piggyback on Olivia's work as she succeeded. I liked

817
00:55:41,795 --> 00:55:49,475
Speaker 1: having a tiny part in this anonymously. More importantly, Olivia

818
00:55:49,475 --> 00:55:52,075
Speaker 1: and I were literally watching the American version of House

819
00:55:52,115 --> 00:55:54,595
Speaker 1: of Cards in bed one night when the Kate Mara

820
00:55:54,755 --> 00:55:58,075
Speaker 1: reporter characters started to sleep with the Kevin Spacey character,

821
00:55:58,355 --> 00:56:01,395
Speaker 1: and Olivia said, why does Hollywood assume women reporters sleep

822
00:56:01,435 --> 00:56:06,915
Speaker 1: with their sources? And later she tweeted that she went

823
00:56:06,955 --> 00:56:12,475
Speaker 1: from that to technologically sleeping with her source, her interviewee

824
00:56:13,235 --> 00:56:18,795
Speaker 1: maybe twice, I mean two different interviewees. And then after

825
00:56:18,835 --> 00:56:21,675
Speaker 1: a year out of the business because of this, she

826
00:56:21,755 --> 00:56:25,275
Speaker 1: got another chance in a dying industry that's laying off

827
00:56:25,355 --> 00:56:28,075
Speaker 1: hundreds of reporters who didn't sleep with their sources or

828
00:56:28,115 --> 00:56:31,875
Speaker 1: alter the news or shill in exchange for access to Trump,

829
00:56:33,075 --> 00:56:37,395
Speaker 1: and none of them got new jobs. Plus the Mark

830
00:56:37,435 --> 00:56:44,515
Speaker 1: Sanford twist the book excerpt the book the new job

831
00:56:44,555 --> 00:56:47,715
Speaker 1: as a West Coast editor at Vanity Fair doesn't know

832
00:56:47,755 --> 00:56:51,515
Speaker 1: its Pacific Coast Highway. I only did this once. I'm

833
00:56:51,555 --> 00:56:56,835
Speaker 1: not unreliable. I can explain her semi maya culpa, her

834
00:56:56,915 --> 00:56:59,595
Speaker 1: explanation for the lies about RFK Junior, and to the

835
00:56:59,635 --> 00:57:02,915
Speaker 1: audience reading her pieces, the explanation of the lies was

836
00:57:02,955 --> 00:57:07,595
Speaker 1: itself a lie. This was the second politician she covered

837
00:57:07,635 --> 00:57:12,155
Speaker 1: and covered. She told the old boyfriend that the boyfriend

838
00:57:12,195 --> 00:57:14,115
Speaker 1: to be was a stalker. She told the boyfriend to

839
00:57:14,155 --> 00:57:16,715
Speaker 1: be that the then incumbent boyfriend was a stalker. She

840
00:57:16,795 --> 00:57:19,955
Speaker 1: called some other reader a stalker? How many politicians and

841
00:57:19,955 --> 00:57:24,115
Speaker 1: how many stalkers are there? And what God help us

842
00:57:25,155 --> 00:57:34,475
Speaker 1: about her profile of Rudy Giuliani more seriously and more

843
00:57:34,515 --> 00:57:40,795
Speaker 1: ominously after this excerpt and the Lizar response and the response,

844
00:57:41,435 --> 00:57:44,675
Speaker 1: the laugh out loud response to the excerpt, how can

845
00:57:44,795 --> 00:57:50,315
Speaker 1: Condy Nast and Vanity Fair keep her employed now? Even

846
00:57:50,355 --> 00:57:57,635
Speaker 1: in her phony maloney job. This was her comeback. Now

847
00:57:59,435 --> 00:58:04,435
Speaker 1: She's gonna need an entirely new comeback from her comeback.

848
00:58:07,475 --> 00:58:32,835
Speaker 1: This is Countdown with Keith Olberman still ahead on this

849
00:58:32,915 --> 00:58:36,235
Speaker 1: all new edition of Countdown Nothing. This is the last

850
00:58:36,275 --> 00:58:39,315
Speaker 1: segment of the show. But first, believe it or not,

851
00:58:39,435 --> 00:58:43,875
Speaker 1: there's still new idiots to talk about, the roundup of

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Speaker 1: the misgrants, morons and Dunnan Kruger effects specimens who constitute

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Speaker 1: today's other worst persons in the world, The Bronze Trump.

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Speaker 1: You may have missed this. Trump has a new conspiracy

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Speaker 1: theory in which he has accused a new individual of

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Speaker 1: rigging something in twenty twenty. He rigging the twenty twenty census.

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Speaker 1: It was rigged by himself. I will be strongly endorsing

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Speaker 1: any estate Senator House memory, Great State of Indiana votes

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Speaker 1: against the republic Party by not allowing for redistricting for

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Speaker 1: congressional seats. The United State sounds for the state of

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Speaker 1: the Newsia. Republic Democrats are trying to steal our seats everywhere,

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Speaker 1: and we're not gonna let this happen. This all began

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Speaker 1: with the rigged census. We must keep the majority at

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Speaker 1: all costs. Republicans must fight back. Well, as an aside,

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Speaker 1: we all know what he means when he says we

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Speaker 1: must fight. We saw that on January sixth. This all

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Speaker 1: began with the rigged census. The census was in twenty

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Speaker 1: twenty and the president was Yep, he doesn't remember he

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Speaker 1: was president in twenty twenty. The runner up, speaking of that,

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Speaker 1: believe it or not, back from the catacombs, Bill O'Reilly Billow,

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Speaker 1: this happened in July. Otherwise he would have won. But

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Speaker 1: Nickelodeon or Nicket Night for TV News, a show with

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Speaker 1: Leland Vittert who was fired from Fox. Well, so was

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Speaker 1: bill When Billow insisted that Jeffrey Epstein was tried and

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Speaker 1: convicted during the Biden presidency by Attorney General Merrick Garland.

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Speaker 1: He kept repeating this because Bill isn't always be a

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Speaker 1: moron who cannot admit he's mistaken. And now the old

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Speaker 1: age is beginning to come in. Quote, hold a press

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Speaker 1: conference and invite former General Garland. If he doesn't come there,

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Speaker 1: put an empty chair with his picture on it. Because

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Speaker 1: Garland had the information that the Trump have had for

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Speaker 1: four years. What told a press conference, invite former General Garland.

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Speaker 1: If he doesn't come there, put an empty chair of

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Speaker 1: this picture because Garland had the same information that Trump

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Speaker 1: people had for for you. This is what infuriates me

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Speaker 1: about these people. Jeffries knew the Biden administration had exactly

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Speaker 1: the same thing the Trump administration has on Epstein, exactly

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Speaker 1: because Epstein was convicted during the Biden administration. Quote that's

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Speaker 1: when even Leland vitchert on a network dedicated to letting

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Speaker 1: right wingers say the most implausible things and doing nothing

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Speaker 1: about it, not even making a big deal, not letting

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Speaker 1: on that it was a right wing network, pretending it

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Speaker 1: was neutral. But Bello said Epstein was convicted during the

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Speaker 1: Biden administration, and Leland vitterert said, hold on, Bill, you

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Speaker 1: said Epstein was convicted during the Biden administration, Epstein can

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Speaker 1: comitted suicide during the Trump administration. Bill o'relly's response to

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Speaker 1: this was eh, so he couldn't process it. He was

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Speaker 1: not just wrong, he was wrong at the top of

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Speaker 1: his voice, which isn't very top anymore. How do you

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Speaker 1: convict a guy that is dead? Leland Vitter wondered aloud.

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Speaker 1: Answer came there none. Bill O'Reilly just moved on because

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Speaker 1: he had been caught in an inescapable mistake. Bill no, like,

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Speaker 1: I don't know. How do you convict a guy that's dead?

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Speaker 1: How do you have a guest on who sounds like

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Speaker 1: he's dead? Now? Why doesn't Bill o win for something

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Speaker 1: that stupid, that wrong? That billow that Hall of Fame quality?

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Speaker 1: Well it was in July again. Sorry, next time you

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Speaker 1: want me to notice this, put it on TVTV so

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Speaker 1: our winner. It does continue as sweep by worst persons

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Speaker 1: in the world's veterans. It's all stars, it's all time greats.

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Speaker 1: On his podcast, Bill Maher reveals he is no longer

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Speaker 1: interested in going on the road to do stand up

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Speaker 1: comedy shows because of the country's intense political divide. First off,

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Speaker 1: did you know Bill Maher does comedy when I'd love

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Speaker 1: to see that. It'd be such a change. I thought

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Speaker 1: he's just there to help you sleep on Friday night

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Speaker 1: and get ready for the weekend. And I want to

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Speaker 1: be out there in this country, in this political atmosphere,

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Speaker 1: I could get shot by the left or the right.

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Speaker 1: It's a good time to not be out there. Oh

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Speaker 1: my god, Bill, what liberal would shoot you? And now

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Speaker 1: that you parrot all the Trump talking points and you

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Speaker 1: write articles about what a great dinner you had with Trump,

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Speaker 1: what conservative would bother to shoot you? I mean, I

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Speaker 1: don't want to make a joke about people getting shot,

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Speaker 1: particularly political commentators. Since I'm a political commentator, I'm opposed

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Speaker 1: to political commentators getting shot. But of all the political

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Speaker 1: commentators in America, maybe in the world, who's gonna have

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Speaker 1: no fear of this, it would be Bill Maher. Republicans

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Speaker 1: don't trust him entirely, but he's no longer of any

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Speaker 1: interest to the liberals. There's nobody watching. The only thing

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Speaker 1: he ever gets quoted on is when he says something

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Speaker 1: stupid like this, Why would anybody shoot him? When he

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Speaker 1: says something stupid and pro Nazi? The conservatives go, oh,

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Speaker 1: look it's that liberal mar Look what he said, we

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Speaker 1: must be right, and liberals don't say anything because they

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Speaker 1: don't hear about it because nobody's watching his effing show anymore. Variety,

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Speaker 1: quoting Variety, Mar says he's also tired and they travel,

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Speaker 1: and tired of being twice as funny as people who

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Speaker 1: were selling twice as many tickets as me. He noted

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Speaker 1: that because I'm on TV every week, it gives fans

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Speaker 1: less incentive to go buy tickets to see him. First

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Speaker 1: of all, the only people Bill is twice as funny

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Speaker 1: as who sell twice as many tickets as him are

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Speaker 1: the New York Jets. And the true disincentive for people

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Speaker 1: to buy tickets to see him is he sucks. Not

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Speaker 1: that I didn't sell a lot of tickets and do

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Speaker 1: great theaters, but I didn't sell arenas I was. I

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Speaker 1: must confess in exchange for the free travel once again,

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Speaker 1: I was the co host of the show between Bill

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Speaker 1: Maher's version of the Friday Night HBO Show and a

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Speaker 1: live performance he gave in Washington at an adjoining theater,

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Speaker 1: and they needed like forty five minutes few Between that,

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Speaker 1: Michael Moore and I sat up in the press box

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Speaker 1: a part of the theater one of the boxes up

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Speaker 1: there and acted like the two old guys from the Muppets. Frankly, anyway,

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Speaker 1: we did that. I participated in this and I didn't.

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Speaker 1: I had to sit there and listen, and I didn't

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Speaker 1: laugh once. And he did both the show and the

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Speaker 1: stand up show. Unbelievable. Wait, there's more. Some people who

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Speaker 1: did meaning cel Arenas frankly are not that great. But

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Speaker 1: you know, in the audience is thirty five to forty five,

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Speaker 1: they don't want to see somebody seventy. I just did

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Speaker 1: my thirteenth HBO special. I feel like that's a good

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Speaker 1: body of work. I felt they all they basically got

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Speaker 1: better as it went along. I feel like the last

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Speaker 1: one was the best one, which is a good way

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Speaker 1: to get off. The last one was the best one,

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Speaker 1: which is a good way to get off. Hmmm, well, sir,

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Speaker 1: if anybody knows that topic, it's Bill. I meant the

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Speaker 1: part about the last one was the best one. What's

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Speaker 1: wrong with you? Dear listener? Mar two days worst first

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Speaker 1: sudden in the world. I've done all the damage I

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Speaker 1: can do here. Thank you for listening. Most of our

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Speaker 1: countdown music was arranged, produced and performed by Brian Ray

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Speaker 1: and John Phillip Chanel, who are the musical directors of Countdown,

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Speaker 1: and it was produced by Tkas. Mister Ray was on

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Speaker 1: the guitars, bass and drums, and mister Schaneil handled the

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Speaker 1: orchestration in keyboards. Our satirical and pithy musical comments here

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Speaker 1: by the best baseball stadium organist ever, Nancy Fauss. The

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Speaker 1: Olderman theme from ESPN two, written by Mitch Warren Davis

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Speaker 1: courtesy of ESPN, Inc. Is the sports music. Other music

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Speaker 1: arranged and performed by the group No Horns Allowed. My

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Speaker 1: announcer today was my friend Larry David. The program was

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Speaker 1: produced by Ted and everything else was as always n

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Speaker 1: I fault. That's countdown for today. Day three hundred and

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Speaker 1: four of America held hostage, and just one and sixty

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Speaker 1: seven days until the scheduled end of what is now

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Speaker 1: officially his lame duck term Zenoll of Papers, unless he

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Speaker 1: is removed sooner by MAGA or by Jeffrey Epstein or

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Speaker 1: the next mystery MRI or Tile and all, or the

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Speaker 1: next reportery insults where he's from moved by a duck.

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Speaker 1: The next scheduled countdown is Monday. Until then I'm Keith Olberman.

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Speaker 1: Good morning, good afternoon, good night, and wait, what was

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Speaker 1: the rest of that? Oh yeah, good luck. That's mother

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Speaker 1: right downtown and plenty. Countdown with Keith Olberman is a

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