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Speaker 1: I'm Joseph Scott Morgan, and this is Bodybacks. It's hard

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Speaker 1: to imagine, Dave, how an individual can be so disconnected

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Speaker 1: from their own humanity that they not only murder their

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Speaker 1: No? No, not really. And maybe someday there will be

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Speaker 2: As That's what I was going to tell you that

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Speaker 2: been set down to sixty two degrees. They can't find

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Speaker 2: Benjamin Taylor's not in the state. But they're looking for

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Speaker 2: She had been dead and put into a plastic tub,

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Speaker 2: I should have mentioned that already, but plastic bags over

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Speaker 2: The diaper over the head, I can't figure that out.

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Speaker 1: Well, it's I think that first off, I think that

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Speaker 1: I think that it's important to understand that those children

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Speaker 1: How many legos have you stepped on?

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Speaker 2: There's something I walked in the hallway earlier in my hallway. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 2: You're going to hurt your foot if you walk barefoot,

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Speaker 2: of that, Joe. All you've got to sign up in

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Speaker 2: this apartment is a sign that nobody lives there, that

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Speaker 2: Remember the last time anybody remembers even talking, really talking

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Speaker 1: We have to go back to this car that's out

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Speaker 1: But they opened the trunk of this car Dave out

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Speaker 2: They're wrapped in plastic bags and then placed in gym bags.

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Speaker 2: They know he's nowhere to be found. When they don't

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Speaker 2: are trying to figure all that out. But Joe, how

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Speaker 1: Well, you know, one of the problems that you encounter

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Speaker 1: with the kids, maybe he had kids with him when

434
00:26:39,040 --> 00:26:41,800
Speaker 1: he took off. But I can tell you all their

435
00:26:41,840 --> 00:26:45,359
Speaker 1: worst nightmares came true when that trunk was finally opened.

436
00:26:57,440 --> 00:27:02,919
Speaker 1: These precious babies, Dave. We begin to think about what

437
00:27:03,080 --> 00:27:11,640
Speaker 1: they maybe have had to endure allegedly at the hands

438
00:27:11,680 --> 00:27:15,679
Speaker 1: of this man, who, Let's face it, if you're a

439
00:27:15,720 --> 00:27:18,760
Speaker 1: man and you take on the responsibility of providing a

440
00:27:18,840 --> 00:27:23,040
Speaker 1: roof over somebody's head and they have kids, you're responsible

441
00:27:23,040 --> 00:27:25,520
Speaker 1: for those kids. I mean, I've got to say it

442
00:27:25,560 --> 00:27:32,120
Speaker 1: plainly right here, and that trust has been to say

443
00:27:32,119 --> 00:27:35,040
Speaker 1: that it's been violated as a gross understatement.

444
00:27:35,160 --> 00:27:39,600
Speaker 2: Benjamin Taylor has a history of domestic violence show against

445
00:27:39,600 --> 00:27:42,120
Speaker 2: women that live with him, love him, care for him.

446
00:27:42,240 --> 00:27:45,800
Speaker 2: He has a history so much though that he had

447
00:27:46,080 --> 00:27:48,600
Speaker 2: he knew he's not getting out of jail again. That's

448
00:27:48,600 --> 00:27:51,080
Speaker 2: how bad his back record is with women beating them.

449
00:27:51,920 --> 00:27:54,640
Speaker 2: I guess I can say that right. He's been convicted

450
00:27:54,680 --> 00:28:01,560
Speaker 2: of domestic violence, So Benjamin Taylor expected because of death

451
00:28:01,640 --> 00:28:06,159
Speaker 2: and how the three died. You know, Mom and I

452
00:28:05,480 --> 00:28:08,720
Speaker 2: can look Joe. Whenever we're talking about men and women.

453
00:28:11,000 --> 00:28:15,680
Speaker 2: People fight, they do stupid things to one another. What

454
00:28:15,720 --> 00:28:18,160
Speaker 2: can a seven month old do to anybody? What can

455
00:28:18,200 --> 00:28:22,280
Speaker 2: a four year old do to anybody?

456
00:28:22,320 --> 00:28:28,000
Speaker 1: It's I don't understand it. It's almost like these children

457
00:28:28,080 --> 00:28:31,639
Speaker 1: and their mother, by the way, are just disposable. But

458
00:28:32,400 --> 00:28:36,600
Speaker 1: when you consider when they were able to get their

459
00:28:36,640 --> 00:28:43,200
Speaker 1: bodies back to the Medical Examiner's office there in Charlotte,

460
00:28:45,000 --> 00:28:48,800
Speaker 1: when you have bodies that are first off, they're hidden away,

461
00:28:48,840 --> 00:28:53,640
Speaker 1: they're out of view, and they're obscured in some way,

462
00:28:53,680 --> 00:28:56,600
Speaker 1: they're wrapped in something. It was one of the most

463
00:28:56,680 --> 00:29:01,000
Speaker 1: chilling things for me, because when you bring a body

464
00:29:01,080 --> 00:29:06,400
Speaker 1: in you're trying to be as clinical and squared away

465
00:29:06,440 --> 00:29:08,880
Speaker 1: in your mind as you possibly can be, because every

466
00:29:08,920 --> 00:29:13,000
Speaker 1: time you unfold a layer relative to some kind of

467
00:29:13,160 --> 00:29:18,640
Speaker 1: covering like a blanket or a plastic bag. You don't

468
00:29:18,680 --> 00:29:22,160
Speaker 1: know what's going to be hiding underneath it, and there's

469
00:29:22,240 --> 00:29:26,440
Speaker 1: almost you can, at least I could. I could feel

470
00:29:26,560 --> 00:29:28,800
Speaker 1: the tension rise in my stomach every time I did this,

471
00:29:28,880 --> 00:29:31,320
Speaker 1: and I wouldn't know the people. You know, it's just

472
00:29:31,360 --> 00:29:33,160
Speaker 1: a case that I happen to be working at that

473
00:29:33,320 --> 00:29:36,000
Speaker 1: point in time. But you never know what each layer

474
00:29:36,080 --> 00:29:39,160
Speaker 1: is going to reveal when you get there. And I

475
00:29:39,240 --> 00:29:41,600
Speaker 1: most of the time, when you have a case involving

476
00:29:41,680 --> 00:29:47,920
Speaker 1: a triple homicide, you think about was it done in

477
00:29:47,960 --> 00:29:53,080
Speaker 1: an expeditious manner? Okay? That would somebody executed shot in

478
00:29:53,120 --> 00:29:57,760
Speaker 1: the back of the head, Okay, Dave, there's there's no

479
00:29:57,840 --> 00:30:00,880
Speaker 1: evidence of that. There's no evidence of a stabbing here.

480
00:30:01,600 --> 00:30:06,160
Speaker 1: So you're seeing the bodies where they have face coverings on.

481
00:30:06,720 --> 00:30:12,200
Speaker 1: I think with Mom, she's restrained and tied and she

482
00:30:12,280 --> 00:30:14,520
Speaker 1: has a bag over her head. Maybe you're going to

483
00:30:14,600 --> 00:30:21,320
Speaker 1: think that this is a suffocation. Perhaps, and maybe it was,

484
00:30:21,920 --> 00:30:26,479
Speaker 1: but this is what they discovered with her when they

485
00:30:26,520 --> 00:30:33,600
Speaker 1: were able to examine her body. They didn't note any trauma,

486
00:30:34,800 --> 00:30:38,719
Speaker 1: but the toxicology revealed everything for them. They were able

487
00:30:38,800 --> 00:30:43,120
Speaker 1: to find a heavy concentration of fentanyl actually in her liver,

488
00:30:43,320 --> 00:30:46,880
Speaker 1: and that's one of the central areas that where this

489
00:30:46,960 --> 00:30:50,920
Speaker 1: drug is processed. And you're so far down the line

490
00:30:50,960 --> 00:30:55,680
Speaker 1: here relative to decompositional changes, that one of the things

491
00:30:55,680 --> 00:30:58,880
Speaker 1: that we will do in the morgue with say an

492
00:30:58,920 --> 00:31:00,960
Speaker 1: organ like the liver, we will take it and we'll

493
00:31:01,000 --> 00:31:05,080
Speaker 1: spin it down and liquefy it and it will be

494
00:31:05,280 --> 00:31:09,000
Speaker 1: literally drawn up and it'll be analyzed and you can

495
00:31:09,080 --> 00:31:12,920
Speaker 1: find a substance like fentanyl. You can find cocaine as

496
00:31:12,920 --> 00:31:15,960
Speaker 1: well and these other things in the liver, and that's

497
00:31:15,960 --> 00:31:17,440
Speaker 1: what they would have had to have done at this

498
00:31:17,560 --> 00:31:21,040
Speaker 1: point due to decompositional changes. They found that in her

499
00:31:21,080 --> 00:31:26,480
Speaker 1: system as well as well as narcan, which is fascinating

500
00:31:26,520 --> 00:31:29,320
Speaker 1: to me because I don't it's almost like the kitchen

501
00:31:29,400 --> 00:31:32,719
Speaker 1: sink is being thrown at her perhaps in a poisoning

502
00:31:33,120 --> 00:31:33,360
Speaker 1: like this.

503
00:31:33,600 --> 00:31:35,160
Speaker 2: It sounded to me like it was an overdose and

504
00:31:35,160 --> 00:31:36,959
Speaker 2: he tried to save her and he couldn't bring her

505
00:31:37,000 --> 00:31:39,160
Speaker 2: back like they were using drugs. He tried to use

506
00:31:39,240 --> 00:31:41,640
Speaker 2: narcanda bring her back from an overdose, and when she died,

507
00:31:41,680 --> 00:31:45,800
Speaker 2: he being whatever. He took the path of the leaves

508
00:31:45,840 --> 00:31:49,640
Speaker 2: for resistance and wrapped her up, left her in the bag,

509
00:31:49,680 --> 00:31:51,440
Speaker 2: set everything so nobody could find it right away, so

510
00:31:51,480 --> 00:31:54,040
Speaker 2: you'd have plenty of time to get away. And then

511
00:31:54,560 --> 00:31:57,040
Speaker 2: you've got him putting the babies in the trunk of

512
00:31:57,080 --> 00:32:00,880
Speaker 2: his car. And how did they die, Joe, that's if

513
00:32:00,880 --> 00:32:03,520
Speaker 2: we know how they died, then that might help understand

514
00:32:03,560 --> 00:32:06,880
Speaker 2: a little bit. Because she's dead. The narcan makes me think,

515
00:32:07,360 --> 00:32:10,120
Speaker 2: and maybe he didn't kill her on purpose, but the

516
00:32:10,160 --> 00:32:13,600
Speaker 2: two children are dead, and I don't picture a four

517
00:32:13,680 --> 00:32:16,240
Speaker 2: year old and a seven month old using drugs and

518
00:32:16,320 --> 00:32:18,600
Speaker 2: needing narcan, you know from an overdose.

519
00:32:19,480 --> 00:32:22,040
Speaker 1: No, And I think that you've really hit on something here.

520
00:32:22,840 --> 00:32:27,560
Speaker 1: And look, we don't know yet. We're going to find

521
00:32:27,560 --> 00:32:30,560
Speaker 1: out as this process works its way through the system

522
00:32:31,120 --> 00:32:33,959
Speaker 1: with her, if this is ever going to be alluded to,

523
00:32:34,400 --> 00:32:39,000
Speaker 1: And I'm hoping that in look, the defense will do

524
00:32:39,120 --> 00:32:43,360
Speaker 1: what the defense will do in this case. You know,

525
00:32:43,440 --> 00:32:46,560
Speaker 1: I see an attack on the horizon relative to her

526
00:32:46,600 --> 00:32:50,760
Speaker 1: and her character. Perhaps maybe that is what happened. But

527
00:32:50,840 --> 00:32:55,480
Speaker 1: you know, these babies, you know, we worked or we

528
00:32:56,240 --> 00:32:59,640
Speaker 1: covered rather. You remember this case out of New York

529
00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:02,160
Speaker 1: I guess it was last year where these kids were

530
00:33:02,200 --> 00:33:05,640
Speaker 1: in a daycare and they were exposed to fentanyl. Do

531
00:33:05,680 --> 00:33:07,120
Speaker 1: you recall I remember that name.

532
00:33:08,520 --> 00:33:10,600
Speaker 2: God, They were on the mat naps, there was the

533
00:33:10,640 --> 00:33:14,000
Speaker 2: fundation underneath the flooring, and.

534
00:33:13,920 --> 00:33:18,520
Speaker 1: It was being processed in this location. So you begin

535
00:33:18,600 --> 00:33:22,800
Speaker 1: to think about that, But how do you But we

536
00:33:22,880 --> 00:33:27,800
Speaker 1: do have a clue here, Dave, because when miracles body,

537
00:33:28,000 --> 00:33:33,959
Speaker 1: who's four, When Miracle Johnson's body was examined, the medical

538
00:33:34,000 --> 00:33:40,520
Speaker 1: examiner found small bruises around her mouth and her jaw,

539
00:33:41,680 --> 00:33:47,720
Speaker 1: and oh, my gosh, this is so horrific. I'm thinking

540
00:33:48,480 --> 00:33:53,320
Speaker 1: that this child may have been force fed fentanyl, Dave,

541
00:33:53,920 --> 00:33:57,360
Speaker 1: and given an od of this drug. And it wouldn't

542
00:33:57,400 --> 00:34:00,000
Speaker 1: take much, you know, I mean, just a few grains

543
00:34:00,240 --> 00:34:04,160
Speaker 1: of this stuff can certainly kill an adult, how much

544
00:34:04,200 --> 00:34:07,520
Speaker 1: more so you know, a small child, and this child,

545
00:34:07,520 --> 00:34:11,319
Speaker 1: this baby takes this on board. And in order to

546
00:34:12,719 --> 00:34:17,879
Speaker 1: ensure that this child ingested it, perhaps just perhaps her

547
00:34:17,920 --> 00:34:21,000
Speaker 1: mouth was held closed because of what they did find

548
00:34:21,040 --> 00:34:25,000
Speaker 1: were small bruises around the mouth and the jaw, and

549
00:34:25,080 --> 00:34:28,960
Speaker 1: it's almost in the medical examiner opined that it was

550
00:34:29,760 --> 00:34:33,440
Speaker 1: as if an adult had squeezed the mouth shut we

551
00:34:33,560 --> 00:34:37,719
Speaker 1: get this in child abuse cases as well, with where

552
00:34:38,800 --> 00:34:44,880
Speaker 1: children are suffocated. Many times the frenulum, which is a

553
00:34:44,880 --> 00:34:49,840
Speaker 1: little connective tissue between the upper and the lower lips,

554
00:34:49,920 --> 00:34:53,560
Speaker 1: between those structures and the gum, and you'll get these

555
00:34:53,600 --> 00:34:57,080
Speaker 1: little braided areas there where the tissue is actually torn.

556
00:34:57,280 --> 00:35:01,640
Speaker 1: I'm wondering what they found relative to those insults as well,

557
00:35:01,719 --> 00:35:05,000
Speaker 1: Did those exist? But there's some evidence apparently that the

558
00:35:05,080 --> 00:35:08,640
Speaker 1: child's mouth had been held closed. And then we go

559
00:35:09,160 --> 00:35:12,600
Speaker 1: to and this is again they found fentanyl in the system.

560
00:35:12,640 --> 00:35:14,520
Speaker 1: I'm sure that they probably had to render down the

561
00:35:14,560 --> 00:35:17,759
Speaker 1: liver in that case as well to find the.

562
00:35:17,800 --> 00:35:21,640
Speaker 3: Same Messiah in the seven month old, right, yeah, yeah,

563
00:35:21,680 --> 00:35:27,560
Speaker 3: well yeah, because with with Messiah, what's fascinating about this

564
00:35:27,840 --> 00:35:32,840
Speaker 3: is that they're saying that this seven month old actually

565
00:35:32,880 --> 00:35:37,279
Speaker 3: had not just fentanyl, but the seven month old had

566
00:35:37,320 --> 00:35:39,320
Speaker 3: cocaine in their system.

567
00:35:39,600 --> 00:35:44,719
Speaker 2: And okay, now, Joe, they have yet to release miracles

568
00:35:46,400 --> 00:35:52,239
Speaker 2: autopsy report yet, Yes, and I'm wondering why that is.

569
00:35:52,400 --> 00:35:56,279
Speaker 2: You mentioned that Miracle had other signs, you know, on

570
00:35:56,320 --> 00:35:58,200
Speaker 2: her face and what have you, in her arm, her

571
00:35:58,239 --> 00:36:01,760
Speaker 2: hands were tied. But with the case of Messiah, again,

572
00:36:01,840 --> 00:36:06,600
Speaker 2: a seven month o little boy, and the autopsy says

573
00:36:06,600 --> 00:36:13,759
Speaker 2: he has ventanyl and cocaine. How would a child? Yeah,

574
00:36:13,800 --> 00:36:16,360
Speaker 2: I mean seven months old, they're crawling and rolling. I

575
00:36:16,360 --> 00:36:18,440
Speaker 2: mean they how do they get that? I mean unless

576
00:36:18,440 --> 00:36:21,600
Speaker 2: it's injected. Can they find out if it was injected?

577
00:36:21,680 --> 00:36:23,000
Speaker 2: Are these bodies going to be too?

578
00:36:24,280 --> 00:36:24,440
Speaker 1: Yeah?

579
00:36:24,440 --> 00:36:25,040
Speaker 2: I feel like I'm not.

580
00:36:25,920 --> 00:36:28,239
Speaker 1: That's okay, It's it's one of the realities that we

581
00:36:28,320 --> 00:36:32,040
Speaker 1: deal with. You would you would look for that we

582
00:36:32,200 --> 00:36:35,880
Speaker 1: abbreviated I call it npws. Those are needle puncture wounds

583
00:36:35,960 --> 00:36:40,200
Speaker 1: is actually what's used. Uh, but that's more difficult to

584
00:36:40,280 --> 00:36:42,640
Speaker 1: detect as decomposition continues on.

585
00:36:42,960 --> 00:36:45,520
Speaker 2: Now, can they figure out when they've died? Can they?

586
00:36:45,760 --> 00:36:46,520
Speaker 2: Can they get it to me?

587
00:36:46,600 --> 00:36:51,239
Speaker 1: Not not not an absolute pinpoint time at which they died.

588
00:36:51,480 --> 00:36:56,279
Speaker 1: You can look at the degree of decomposition and kind

589
00:36:56,280 --> 00:36:59,360
Speaker 1: of pick up on the idea that they have been down.

590
00:37:00,200 --> 00:37:03,319
Speaker 1: You can brack at the time, and I would imagine

591
00:37:03,480 --> 00:37:06,000
Speaker 1: that the closest they would be able to come is

592
00:37:06,040 --> 00:37:10,680
Speaker 1: probably weeks. That's going to be about his narrow So

593
00:37:10,800 --> 00:37:14,960
Speaker 1: if someone is going back chronologically and looking at a

594
00:37:15,000 --> 00:37:19,640
Speaker 1: specific date, no, no, unless you had videography of him

595
00:37:19,719 --> 00:37:23,439
Speaker 1: actually perpetrating the crime. That's time stamp. There's no way

596
00:37:23,440 --> 00:37:25,919
Speaker 1: to do that. I think that they give us far

597
00:37:25,960 --> 00:37:28,439
Speaker 1: too much credit and forensics for being able to narrow

598
00:37:28,480 --> 00:37:31,959
Speaker 1: it down. Times we can't narrow it down that far.

599
00:37:33,160 --> 00:37:36,359
Speaker 1: But with the youngest child, it's almost like they had

600
00:37:36,400 --> 00:37:41,279
Speaker 1: a cocktail on board because it wasn't just fentanyl. There

601
00:37:41,400 --> 00:37:47,080
Speaker 1: was also cocaine, which is stimulant, the polar opposite of fentanyl.

602
00:37:48,040 --> 00:37:51,160
Speaker 1: And you know, we've talked about the death of John

603
00:37:51,200 --> 00:37:55,279
Speaker 1: Belushi would speedball and that's a combination. That was a

604
00:37:55,280 --> 00:38:02,960
Speaker 1: combination of heroin and cocaine. Fentanyl is is a synthetic

605
00:38:03,040 --> 00:38:06,560
Speaker 1: opioid and it's I don't know, it's one hundred times

606
00:38:06,600 --> 00:38:10,319
Speaker 1: more powerful than morphine. To give to frame that for

607
00:38:10,480 --> 00:38:14,160
Speaker 1: you, you combine that with cocaine, and that is a recipe

608
00:38:14,239 --> 00:38:17,359
Speaker 1: for a disaster. And not only that, the child had

609
00:38:17,440 --> 00:38:21,719
Speaker 1: diphenhodromine in their system, which is the ingredient in benadrill

610
00:38:22,280 --> 00:38:26,080
Speaker 1: that makes you sleepy, and they had melatonin. His child

611
00:38:26,080 --> 00:38:30,080
Speaker 1: had melatonin in their system as well. So you've got

612
00:38:30,120 --> 00:38:33,240
Speaker 1: all of these forces that are at work in this tiny,

613
00:38:33,360 --> 00:38:37,560
Speaker 1: tiny little body daven that have resulted in a death here.

614
00:38:39,800 --> 00:38:42,920
Speaker 2: So now you guys have to figure out. We know

615
00:38:43,680 --> 00:38:47,759
Speaker 2: last time anybody talked to Markla it was January twentieth.

616
00:38:48,719 --> 00:38:51,680
Speaker 2: We know there was communication from her phone for some

617
00:38:51,800 --> 00:38:53,680
Speaker 2: time after that, but they do not believe it was

618
00:38:53,719 --> 00:38:54,440
Speaker 2: from her.

619
00:38:55,200 --> 00:38:55,399
Speaker 1: They.

620
00:38:55,760 --> 00:38:59,080
Speaker 2: By the way, when we mentioned earlier that police were

621
00:38:59,080 --> 00:39:02,160
Speaker 2: able to find out March sixth that Benjamin Taylor had

622
00:39:02,280 --> 00:39:04,759
Speaker 2: left town, I want to be crystal clear. They're not

623
00:39:04,800 --> 00:39:07,360
Speaker 2: saying he left town March sixth. What they're saying is

624
00:39:07,400 --> 00:39:11,720
Speaker 2: on that date they were able to find surveillance video

625
00:39:11,960 --> 00:39:16,000
Speaker 2: of him leaving on a bus leaving the state. Don't

626
00:39:16,040 --> 00:39:18,560
Speaker 2: know when that was. It could have been January twenty first, Okay,

627
00:39:18,600 --> 00:39:20,440
Speaker 2: we don't know. They haven't put that out there yet.

628
00:39:20,480 --> 00:39:23,040
Speaker 2: I spent half the day looking for that, going, come on,

629
00:39:23,080 --> 00:39:25,600
Speaker 2: you got to tell me something here. So we don't

630
00:39:25,640 --> 00:39:28,200
Speaker 2: know what day they turned that up. We'll find out

631
00:39:28,840 --> 00:39:31,360
Speaker 2: he was found. Benjamin Taylor was tracked down after the

632
00:39:32,480 --> 00:39:35,960
Speaker 2: Markla was found. By the way, they found Markla's body

633
00:39:37,000 --> 00:39:40,640
Speaker 2: and did not find the children right away. Think about

634
00:39:40,640 --> 00:39:43,439
Speaker 2: that for just a minute, Joe, what do you do

635
00:39:43,560 --> 00:39:46,759
Speaker 2: as an investigator. You've got the mother, you know, there's

636
00:39:46,800 --> 00:39:51,920
Speaker 2: two children around here. You have to go home not

637
00:39:52,120 --> 00:39:54,680
Speaker 2: knowing because they did not find them that day, they

638
00:39:54,760 --> 00:39:57,840
Speaker 2: had to come back the next day and look again.

639
00:39:58,280 --> 00:40:01,640
Speaker 2: Do you put police? So are investigators at the scenes

640
00:40:01,680 --> 00:40:04,439
Speaker 2: and nobody messes with the apartment or the car? Does

641
00:40:04,480 --> 00:40:06,600
Speaker 2: the car get taken to the police station. Do they

642
00:40:06,680 --> 00:40:08,840
Speaker 2: leave it in the parking lot? What goes on to

643
00:40:08,920 --> 00:40:11,799
Speaker 2: secure the scenes when you've got two people missing and

644
00:40:11,840 --> 00:40:14,080
Speaker 2: the one person you were looking for now is dead.

645
00:40:15,080 --> 00:40:17,759
Speaker 1: Yeah, in the immediate you would lock down that apartment

646
00:40:17,880 --> 00:40:21,600
Speaker 1: and in an ideal a situation, you would have an

647
00:40:21,640 --> 00:40:27,000
Speaker 1: officer at that site, securing that location as long as

648
00:40:27,040 --> 00:40:31,279
Speaker 1: you possibly could, particularly with these missing kits, because you

649
00:40:31,280 --> 00:40:33,440
Speaker 1: don't know what else is going to be revealed. If

650
00:40:33,480 --> 00:40:37,279
Speaker 1: there's an indication, for instance, that you believe just you

651
00:40:37,320 --> 00:40:42,600
Speaker 1: know from your senses, okay, that maybe you smell decomposition

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00:40:42,840 --> 00:40:47,200
Speaker 1: from the car. Remember if you go into that trunk

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00:40:47,239 --> 00:40:50,080
Speaker 1: of the car when you think about a warrant, you're

654
00:40:50,120 --> 00:40:53,800
Speaker 1: going to because that's considered be like a hidden space. Okay,

655
00:40:53,880 --> 00:40:58,399
Speaker 1: So if there's an acute event where you can hear

656
00:40:58,480 --> 00:41:01,400
Speaker 1: somebody you know inside the true banging around the trunk,

657
00:41:01,960 --> 00:41:05,080
Speaker 1: you can pop that thing open, because that's an emergent issue.

658
00:41:05,560 --> 00:41:07,560
Speaker 1: But if you have to go into like a hidden space,

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00:41:07,600 --> 00:41:08,960
Speaker 1: into a car, you're going to have to get a

660
00:41:09,000 --> 00:41:11,720
Speaker 1: warrant in order to do that. And I'm really wondering

661
00:41:11,760 --> 00:41:15,239
Speaker 1: if that's not what took place, and particularly if you

662
00:41:15,280 --> 00:41:20,000
Speaker 1: suspect that those children's bodies might be in there, you

663
00:41:20,080 --> 00:41:24,520
Speaker 1: want to treat that car as delicately as you possibly can,

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00:41:24,800 --> 00:41:30,360
Speaker 1: because understand this, that car is a pivot point in

665
00:41:30,400 --> 00:41:34,640
Speaker 1: this case, because you can put the babies in there. Obviously,

666
00:41:35,400 --> 00:41:37,839
Speaker 1: you have this car that he owned, and you can

667
00:41:37,880 --> 00:41:42,799
Speaker 1: put him adjacent to that car. You suspect that he

668
00:41:42,880 --> 00:41:45,840
Speaker 1: may have had something to do with them being placed

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00:41:45,840 --> 00:41:49,320
Speaker 1: inside that car, so there might be any different types

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00:41:49,360 --> 00:41:52,080
Speaker 1: of evidence that are contained in there. So what would

671
00:41:52,120 --> 00:41:57,440
Speaker 1: you do. You would flatbed that car into an evidence garage,

672
00:41:57,920 --> 00:42:02,960
Speaker 1: probably there in Charlotte. You would process that car completely

673
00:42:03,200 --> 00:42:05,960
Speaker 1: all the way through. You would expect to find evidence

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00:42:06,000 --> 00:42:12,720
Speaker 1: of DNA of all members of this family. They're living together,

675
00:42:13,000 --> 00:42:16,480
Speaker 1: so it would be expected you would find some essence

676
00:42:16,520 --> 00:42:19,400
Speaker 1: of the children within the car, say in the back seats,

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00:42:20,719 --> 00:42:23,720
Speaker 1: maybe on the front seat. Mom's DNA there and certainly

678
00:42:23,760 --> 00:42:27,520
Speaker 1: his the owners. But then you would take great care

679
00:42:27,600 --> 00:42:29,840
Speaker 1: to open up the trunk because for all you know,

680
00:42:30,600 --> 00:42:33,960
Speaker 1: you might have latent prints that are still there, particularly

681
00:42:34,000 --> 00:42:39,560
Speaker 1: on the underside where it is protected from the elements.

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00:42:39,960 --> 00:42:44,720
Speaker 1: And also you had mentioned plastic dave with these babies.

683
00:42:45,080 --> 00:42:48,400
Speaker 1: Plastic is a non poor surface. So if in fact,

684
00:42:49,239 --> 00:42:54,279
Speaker 1: you have these plastic coverings on the bodies and you

685
00:42:54,320 --> 00:42:57,480
Speaker 1: can lift a print off of those plastic coverings that

686
00:42:57,520 --> 00:42:59,400
Speaker 1: are covering those bodies, that's why you have to be

687
00:42:59,440 --> 00:43:03,120
Speaker 1: so delicate with this. You can put him handling those

688
00:43:03,160 --> 00:43:06,640
Speaker 1: bodies that are wrapped in bags. That's why you have

689
00:43:06,719 --> 00:43:08,040
Speaker 1: to take such great care with this.

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00:43:11,440 --> 00:43:15,520
Speaker 2: Now that we have the results from the autopsy, we

691
00:43:15,680 --> 00:43:20,000
Speaker 2: know that Benjamin Taylor has been extradited back. He was

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00:43:20,160 --> 00:43:23,560
Speaker 2: caught by the way, and he was caught, believe it

693
00:43:23,640 --> 00:43:26,400
Speaker 2: or not, in southern California, right there at the border

694
00:43:26,400 --> 00:43:29,960
Speaker 2: with Mexico. They suspected that he had the means to

695
00:43:29,960 --> 00:43:32,440
Speaker 2: get across the border and go away.

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00:43:32,719 --> 00:43:33,480
Speaker 3: He didn't make it.

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00:43:33,920 --> 00:43:38,040
Speaker 2: He already has been back in Charlotte in Mecklenburg County Jail.

698
00:43:38,440 --> 00:43:41,439
Speaker 2: He's being held without bond due to his previous track

699
00:43:41,520 --> 00:43:45,200
Speaker 2: record of domestic violence and his laundry list of crimes

700
00:43:45,239 --> 00:43:47,080
Speaker 2: that go back to two thousand and seven. This is

701
00:43:47,120 --> 00:43:50,760
Speaker 2: a thirty four year old man. Again, Remember Mark, Kayla

702
00:43:50,880 --> 00:43:53,799
Speaker 2: was twenty two years old. Her children were four years

703
00:43:53,840 --> 00:43:56,640
Speaker 2: old and seven months old. Joe, So what do we

704
00:43:56,680 --> 00:43:59,160
Speaker 2: wait for now? They're not giving him bond.

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00:44:00,360 --> 00:44:03,120
Speaker 1: No, he's going to be held without bond. He's back

706
00:44:03,160 --> 00:44:09,879
Speaker 1: in custody. He was extradited actually from Imperial County, California,

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00:44:10,000 --> 00:44:13,960
Speaker 1: which does in fact border as you mentioned, Mexico, and

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00:44:14,000 --> 00:44:17,719
Speaker 1: he's now back in Charlotte, North Carolina, where there'll be

709
00:44:17,760 --> 00:44:20,000
Speaker 1: a series of hearings that will take place, and he

710
00:44:20,120 --> 00:44:27,359
Speaker 1: is in fact being held without bond. It's a horrible case. Absolutely,

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00:44:28,920 --> 00:44:32,400
Speaker 1: It makes everything else pale when you think about the

712
00:44:32,480 --> 00:44:36,759
Speaker 1: lives that have been diminished here and lost as a

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00:44:36,800 --> 00:44:40,000
Speaker 1: result of this, and not just the lives of these

714
00:44:40,000 --> 00:44:44,160
Speaker 1: precious babies and this mother, but also Michaela's family that

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00:44:44,239 --> 00:44:47,399
Speaker 1: are grieving their loss. We're going to stay on top

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Speaker 1: of this case and we'll probably do a follow up

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Speaker 1: as time goes by. I'm Joseph Scott Morgan and this

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Speaker 1: is Body Backs