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Speaker 1: It's Tuesday. Congrats to the Indiana Hoosiers our twenty twenty

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Speaker 1: six Fernando Mendoza Kurt Signetti led national champs. Also, congrats

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Speaker 1: to Miami really really played a great second half. Mario

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Speaker 1: Cristobal Caine's going nowhere. So a lot of people are

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Speaker 1: pushing back, you know. I saw some quote yesterday where

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Speaker 1: somebody in the league said, we've never had this many

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Speaker 1: bad owners of the thirty two current owners because of

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Speaker 1: all the coaching changes. And I'm like, okay, ten guys

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Speaker 1: got fired. Aaron glenn inexplicably kept his job. Appears to

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Speaker 1: be over his head. So here's my take. There are

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Speaker 1: nine coaches in this league. I mean, how many great

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Speaker 1: coaches are there? Okay, there are nine coaches. To me,

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Speaker 1: take that graphic out. There are nine coaches right now

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Speaker 1: that I consider like inarguably culture and game changers. Nine McVeigh.

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Speaker 1: I mean, look at him, Jim Harbaugh, Ben Johnson, Mike McDonald,

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Speaker 1: Sean McVay, Sean Payton, Andy Reid, the Miko, Ryan Shanahan,

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Speaker 1: and Vrabel. You don't have to always a trophy. They

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Speaker 1: just changed their side of the ball, or both sides

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Speaker 1: of the ball. There's another five guys that I think

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Speaker 1: in that Maybe they should be Dan Campbell, Liam Cohen,

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Speaker 1: John Harbaugh, Matt Laflure and Kevin O'Connell. Those are real,

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Speaker 1: he really good coaches. That's fourteen to thirty two. That's

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Speaker 1: all it is. I mean, name the franchise that got

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Speaker 1: rid of their coach and you're absolutely sure it was

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Speaker 1: a huge mistake. Shocker Cleveland Kevin Stefanski. Yeah, I think

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Speaker 1: that's a mistake. When you win two time Coach of

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Speaker 1: the Year in Cleveland. I'd keep him, and he interviewed

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Speaker 1: for all the top jobs. Immediately, I'd say that's a mistake.

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Speaker 1: But Aaron Glenn kept his job, And I mean, how

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Speaker 1: do you not as a defensive coach over the course

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Speaker 1: of a season not produce an interception, and that is

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Speaker 1: I don't even know how to explain that a tip

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Speaker 1: pass would fall into your lap. So one coach shouldn't

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Speaker 1: have been fired, another one maybe should have. I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I'm not bothered by it. Here's John Harbaugh, the best

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Speaker 1: coach on the market. I don't think anybody disputes that.

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Speaker 1: Here's his opening press conference. Pretty impressive for the New

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Speaker 2: It's profound honor to be entrusted with the responsibility of

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Speaker 2: coaching the New York Football Giants, to be on the

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Speaker 2: biggest stage in the biggest sport. I know the challenges,

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Speaker 2: I understand the expectations. I know the fans are hungry

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Speaker 2: for a winner. We're here with one mission to become,

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Speaker 2: to earn the right to be called the world champions

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Speaker 2: in New York, and that's what we plan to do.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm not getting Ben McAdoo vibes there. I'm sorry

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Speaker 1: that sounds looks his sports coat fits. He was the

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Speaker 1: best coach on the market. Maybe he's one of the

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Speaker 1: top nine or ten coaches. Certainly an argument winning playoff record.

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Speaker 1: I've said this before four years in a row. I've

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Speaker 1: picked a double your win total team minds the New

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Speaker 1: York Giants, they got to get a right tackle upgrade

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Speaker 1: at tight end. Everybody in the league could more use

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Speaker 1: more linebackers that run well in corners that can cover.

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Speaker 1: Nick Wright is joining us live host of First Things First.

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Speaker 1: All right, let's start with Sean McDermott. I said earlier.

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Speaker 1: It's always easy to do the Pittsburgh thing. Hey, status quo,

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Speaker 1: We're good. It's hard to do what Buffalo did eight

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Speaker 1: playoff wins. Hey we couldn't beat Mahomes. Well, welcome to

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Speaker 1: have used that word they use. Yeah, let's just.

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Speaker 3: It was to use admiral typo in the word six

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Speaker 3: of the press release for a coach that you know,

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Speaker 3: To McDermott's credit, they broke that playoff drought with Tyron Taylor.

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Speaker 4: You would have liked a little more care, you know,

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Speaker 3: I so I am a little conflicted on this. I

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Speaker 3: said to you before the year started, Colin, the most

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Speaker 3: important stat of the NFL season was every single coaching, quarterback,

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Speaker 1: That's right, which.

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Speaker 3: Meant Harbaugh and Lamar year eight nervous, Josh and McDermott

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Speaker 3: but similar to what you're saying, at some point you

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Speaker 3: level of devastation in that Bill's locker room, on Josh's

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Speaker 3: Buffalo News whining about an obvious interception probably meant yeah,

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Speaker 3: in order to recover from another devastating postseason defeat, that

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Speaker 4: So I understood all of that.

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Speaker 3: Where I'm conflicted is this, I do think Sean McDermott

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Speaker 3: that not only did Bean stay Bean got promoted, right.

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Speaker 3: But I also this is a big risk and it's

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Speaker 3: now Super Bowl window this moment, and I'm going to

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Speaker 3: go first time head coach Davis Webb, first time head

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Speaker 3: impressed with his tenure with the Giants. It all feels risky.

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Speaker 3: I would I personally, Colin would hope that Western New

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Speaker 3: And I would ask Bill Belichick to take the job.

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Speaker 3: That's what I would do. I would say, Bill, three years,

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Speaker 3: break the wins record. You see, the Patriots are climbing

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Speaker 3: back to prominence without you.

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Speaker 3: What if you come in reclaim dominance over the AFCs.

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Speaker 3: So that's what I would do if I were the Bills.

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Speaker 3: But it's a risky move. But before we move off

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Speaker 3: the Bills, can I ask you a question?

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Speaker 1: Please? Yeah?

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Speaker 3: Okay, So what do we where do we do the

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Speaker 3: blame pie for a guy who is just roundly called

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Speaker 3: it's not enough, it's called the best player.

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Speaker 1: In the league.

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Speaker 3: That's that's he's graduated way past that. The most talented

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Speaker 3: four turnover playoff game missed the game winning touchdown twice,

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Speaker 3: curious what we do with that, my friend, mister Cowherd.

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Speaker 1: Well, Listen, Sometimes the very talented artist doesn't win the Grammys,

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Speaker 1: this way. Is that? And you know, I think Mahomes

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Speaker 1: the best coach, arguably Josh Allen's ever had left and

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Speaker 1: it's been kind of a Ken Dorsey. It's Brady, it's

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Speaker 1: Staball a defensive coach who doesn't have a feel for

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Speaker 1: the tush push. Last year. I've said before, I think

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Speaker 1: if you traded Mahomes and Allen's staffs, Mahomes is better

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Speaker 1: and would have trophies, but Josh would have one too,

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Speaker 1: So I think Josh. I always feel like Josh has

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Speaker 1: to carry a part of the team, or I've never

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Speaker 1: felt I mean, Mahomes did has always mostly had outside

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Speaker 4: Yeah and listen, Yeah and Josh.

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Speaker 3: Josh has just had the number one defensive football multiple

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Speaker 3: more turnovers in that game than Patrick Mahomes has had

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Speaker 3: in every single AFC Championship, Divisional game, wild card game

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Speaker 3: he is fourteen and three with forty two touchdowns and

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Speaker 3: three interceptions. Josh Allen in those rounds in the division round,

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Speaker 3: in the conference Championship round, I believe is now two

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Speaker 3: and six, or no, it would be two and six,

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Speaker 4: Who can keep track?

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Speaker 3: I know he had four turnovers in about forty five

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Speaker 3: game minutes on Saturday, and then everyone's like he needed

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Speaker 4: I'm simple. I think he's a.

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Speaker 3: Great player, but you know, I am a little let

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Speaker 3: me just real quick. I'm a little conflict with this. Okay,

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Speaker 3: everyone's logic seems to be the Bills had to do

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Speaker 3: it this year because the boogeyman Patrick Mahomes wasn't in

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Speaker 4: It, he's better than the boogeyman.

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Speaker 3: That's where I'm like, wait, why was it so important

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Speaker 3: the Chiefs not be there if the Bills.

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Speaker 1: Are better and Josh is better? That's my question. Okay,

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Speaker 1: So this is the reality for Mahomes. When Brady was

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Speaker 1: dominating the league, everybody's like, Aaron's the new best player? What?

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Speaker 1: And then when Brady is playing Mahomes and stacking the

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Speaker 1: people like Mahomes is better? And then Mahomes becomes the

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Speaker 1: Josh Allen is actually better. Is the reality of being

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Speaker 1: the king is that a king gets old. We fatigue

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Speaker 1: on it. Lebron's not the best six years ago. I'm

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Speaker 1: telling you it's this new guy, Jannis. This is the

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Speaker 1: reality of our very fluid, very instantaneous gratification society. Is

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Speaker 1: when you are the goat in Mahomes is we can't

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Speaker 4: That's all true.

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Speaker 3: That's fair with the little addendum of Rogers in his

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Speaker 3: third years as starter went to and won a Super Bowl.

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Speaker 3: Patrick Mahomes in his second year as a starter, went

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Speaker 3: to and won a Super Bowl. And Josh Allen is

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Speaker 3: turning thirty and is yet to be in a Super Bowl.

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Speaker 4: And you have not only.

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Speaker 3: Elevated in best Mahomes, he's the most talented player ever,

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Speaker 3: the most Forget it, Jim Brown, eat it, Aaron Rodgers,

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Speaker 3: forget you. It just feels a bit much. But maybe

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Speaker 3: I'm being unfair. Now we can move on, Okay, fun debate.

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Speaker 1: Okay, So Caleb Williams, you know the fingernails. He's moody,

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Speaker 1: he's erratic. I did an essay last week where I said,

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Speaker 1: and I said, it took me a while to get there.

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Speaker 1: For the record, he has gotten a lot better. He

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Speaker 1: just he stays in the pocket now because he's better

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Speaker 1: so I've come around. J Max said as yesterday is

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Speaker 1: we have to just own this. He is a top

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Speaker 1: ten quarterback in the league. Because this team is didn't

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Speaker 1: very good, and the coach is brand new, and it's

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Speaker 1: hard to win here in the division with Green Band Detroit,

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Speaker 1: and I think we all just have to own it.

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Speaker 1: He's another number one pick that looks damn good.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean I am.

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Speaker 3: Think about how much growth he had just in the

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Speaker 4: I don't know. I hadn't thought about the Rogers comp.

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Speaker 1: This year as well.

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Speaker 3: I mean, that's a lot of words to say. You

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Speaker 1: I will say this, I do believe Mahomes will win

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Speaker 3: So I want to see who Buffalo hires is their

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Speaker 3: And now listen, I have doubted the Broncos all year.

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Speaker 3: I have been wrong all year. I have doubted bo

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Speaker 4: Such a gut punch.

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Speaker 3: With that said, I believe Drake May is clearly and

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Speaker 3: I also think while Sean Payton, another guy that is

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Speaker 3: while everyone else loves him, He's been brilliant all season

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Speaker 3: You give it, So you give him massive credit. Just

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Speaker 3: I feel like, yeah, and allows him to grow with

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Speaker 4: So optimistic for them.

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Speaker 3: So I agree with your kind of general thesis, which

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Speaker 3: he's so sharp and he's so tough, and he's got

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Speaker 3: If you have the quarterback and you nail the coach,

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Speaker 3: there is no rebuild. Caleb and Ben Johnson won the

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Speaker 3: Drake May and Mike Rabel won the division and are

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Speaker 1: Nick Wright, good stuff. I'll reconsider my Josh Allen comments.

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Speaker 1: That would only be reasonable. I mean I've been a

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Speaker 3: Here's what I Here's all I would just as a

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Speaker 4: So if he's the.

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Speaker 3: what are we going to call him when he wins it? Yeah,

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Speaker 3: give him the Nobel Peace Prize. Can't do that, starts

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Speaker 4: Little room to upgrade. That's all I would say.

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Speaker 1: Good stuff, buddy, Nick Grant, Yeah, you were so lucky. Man, wait,

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Speaker 1: what a great football season. I mean, college was unbelievable.

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Speaker 1: All right, welcome back. Lot of stuff going on. Congrats

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Speaker 1: to the Indiana Hoosiers. Robert Sala's got a new gig.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, I'm I like this Titans team. I'm digging into

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Speaker 9: So fun.

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Speaker 8: But we still got an NFC championship game this weekend, Colin.

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Speaker 8: That is gonna be pretty damn good. Seattle hosting the

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Speaker 8: Obviously, the two meetings between the two this season have

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Speaker 8: been nothing short of phenomenal. You had the breakdown I

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Speaker 8: think on Monday about how I think the one point

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Speaker 8: was the difference in both games combined.

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Speaker 9: You did not.

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Speaker 8: Note that Sam donald has six interceptions in eight quarters

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Speaker 8: against the Rams this season. Seems like it's noteworthy. Mike

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Speaker 8: McDonald said he wouldn't want it any other way. I

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Speaker 8: think a lot of people are calling this the actual

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Speaker 8: Super Bowl. Yeah, given the poop pooh platter in the AFC.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think there was about a four or five

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Speaker 1: year roun I mean between the Patriots and Brady and

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Speaker 1: the Chiefs and Mahomes. It did feel like at the

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Speaker 1: top it was like the SEC for twenty years in

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Speaker 1: college football. It felt like the championships were going to

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Speaker 1: go through the AFC. I don't think there's any question

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Speaker 1: now that the best rosters and coach I mean, look

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Speaker 1: at the coaching right now in the NFC McVeigh, Shanahan,

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Speaker 1: McDonald like at the top, there's some I mean, Matt Lafleur,

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Speaker 1: Dan Campbell's been great. There is some really good coaching

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Speaker 1: happening out West, and I do believe Seattle in the ramp. Listen,

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Speaker 1: it's the number one offense Rams against the number one

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Speaker 1: defense Seattle. It is best of best. I think New

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Speaker 1: England would be an underdog to both. Denver on with

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Speaker 1: Jared Stoodam would absolutely be a touchdown plus underdog to both.

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Speaker 1: I think New England is the last hope for the

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Speaker 1: AFC to hoist a trophy because Denver's not doing it.

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Speaker 1: Bow Next gave him a shot. Denver's not winning the

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Speaker 1: Super Bowl.

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Speaker 8: Yeah. Well, this NFC situation is interesting because Seattle has

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Speaker 8: emerged as the best team late in the season. But

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Speaker 8: let's be real, Kale for being one hundred percent authentic.

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Speaker 8: The NFC suffered from brutal injuries this year. Jaden Daniels

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Speaker 8: was in this game. Last year, he was injured and

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Speaker 8: Washington was terrible. Okay, we saw the Lions get hammered

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Speaker 8: by injuries, Laporta offensive line everywhere. We saw the Niners

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Speaker 8: riddled with injuries. Michael Parsons goes down the Packers could here.

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Speaker 8: I think Seattle should be thrilled there here. I think

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Speaker 8: the Rams deserve it and the more we talk, the

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Speaker 8: more I think the Rams are probably decide. I'm just

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Speaker 8: hoping that the public bets it up to three so

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Speaker 8: I can get the full field goal.

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Speaker 9: You like Seattle in this game, I sense no.

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Speaker 1: I think the line's right. I think Seattle. I talked

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Speaker 1: about this Sunday after it happened. I think Seattle should

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Speaker 1: be a field goal favorite special teams if they become

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Speaker 1: a factor, And Matt Hasselbeck said this on the show yesterday,

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Speaker 1: you may just be better to just kick the ball

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Speaker 1: through the end zone and not risk kicking the ball

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Speaker 1: or punting the ball to Seattle. Special teams in games

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Speaker 1: like this matter a lot. I mean, when you have

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Speaker 1: two great coaches, two very productive quarterback. By the way,

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Speaker 1: Stafford can be reckless as well as Donald Stafford's got

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Speaker 1: before Sunday had seven picks and seven games. Stafford can

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Speaker 1: be reckless. But the difference between Seattle and the Rams

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Speaker 1: is this. The Rams are a cleaner team. They don't

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Speaker 1: turn the ball over as much, they don't don't get penalized.

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Speaker 1: I mean this past week in Chicago, no draw passes,

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Speaker 1: So you're getting it's really best of the best, and

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Speaker 1: so to me, a three point favorite for Seattle feels

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Speaker 1: about right. My take is LA is the bet. Seattle's

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Speaker 1: the deeper roster. LA is probably the best if I

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Speaker 1: get Stafford McVeigh in that offense and a field goal,

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Speaker 1: I don't care where the game's at. They just won

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Speaker 1: in you know, feels like minus eleven they can win

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Speaker 1: in Seattle.

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Speaker 9: How much does experience matter to you? McVeigh huge eds.

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Speaker 8: This is McDaniel's second game and by the way, he

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Speaker 8: sorry now, McDaniel McDonald this is his second playoff game

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Speaker 8: and he didn't even have to coach the fourth quarter

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Speaker 8: against the Niners. Okay, so he's never been in one

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Speaker 8: of these ten spots. And same deal for Darnold, like

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Speaker 8: he coasted. I think he had what seventeen pass attempts

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Speaker 8: or something ridiculous, Like I think Seattle's going to be

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Speaker 8: in some trouble. Let's go to the AFC and Colin.

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Speaker 8: I don't know, I heard a rubor you might be

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Speaker 8: skiing during the AFC Championship game because there's not a

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Speaker 8: lot of excitement around Stidham versus May Sorry, Broncos fans obviously,

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Speaker 8: Vrabel and company are very excited to be here. Here

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Speaker 8: he is talking about the tall task after the Texans game, be.

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Speaker 10: The best defense that we've played to date because it's

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Speaker 10: the next one. I mean, that's just how this goes.

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Speaker 10: They playing a lot of confidence. They're good on the perimeter.

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Speaker 10: We're really good up front. I mean, the athletics is

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Speaker 10: in their size. They put a lot of pressure on you.

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Speaker 10: So it's just how this thing goes. Each and every week.

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Speaker 10: They get tougher.

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Speaker 1: It like even Brady struggled going to Denver. It's mile high.

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Speaker 1: It's tough. I think listen Zach Allen, like the first

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Speaker 1: thing he said, they're very good on the edge. Also,

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Speaker 1: Courtland Sutton and MEM's is gonna put pressure on New

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Speaker 1: England's corners. New England for the record, New England's secondary, dude.

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Speaker 4: They are.

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Speaker 1: They are really well coached and really athletic in that secondary.

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Speaker 1: Jared Stidham watch out because those that is a that

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Speaker 1: New England secondary. When Christian Zalees is out there, they

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Speaker 1: got playmakers. You could if you had to do a

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Speaker 1: crazy prop a pick six is not crazy against New

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Speaker 1: England because Zach Allen and that rush they're gonna get

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Speaker 1: in Jared'stidham's face.

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Speaker 9: That's Actually, I like that.

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Speaker 8: That might be your best prop out of the season,

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Speaker 8: just casually dropping it on a.

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Speaker 9: Tuesday pick six. Interesting.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean, let's be real, this Broncos defense is

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Speaker 8: a little overrated Little Denver. Denver's defense could not stop

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Speaker 8: Josh Allen. I remember the Trevor Lawrence game. They hung

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Speaker 8: thirty four on the Denver defense.

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Speaker 9: In Mile High.

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Speaker 8: We saw Jordan Love just go up and down the

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Speaker 8: field until the injuries killed him.

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Speaker 9: I'm looking at some other games like they struggled to

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Speaker 9: stop Jackson Dart earlier this season. I don't know if this.

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Speaker 8: Is any They're nowhere near the class of the Houston Texas.

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Speaker 9: We would agree with that, right Like.

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Speaker 1: I think the best roster going forward right now feels

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Speaker 1: like Seattle. The best defense feels like Seattle. The best

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Speaker 1: offense feels like the Rams and a team. The Rams

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Speaker 1: have holes corner and special teams. Seattle and New England

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Speaker 1: those rosters don't have holes. Yeah, I mean, Seattle is

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Speaker 1: spectacular on special teams. New England's good enough on special teams.

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Speaker 1: So I think the Rams have a really high ceiling,

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Speaker 1: but they can have a floor. Carolina almost beat him

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Speaker 1: twice and both games it was the same thing. They

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Speaker 1: were struggling to make stops on the sideline.

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Speaker 8: All right, final storycl let's go to the Detroit Lions.

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Speaker 8: You and I were hot on, Oh, Mike McDaniel would

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Speaker 8: be a great fit with the Lions. I guess they

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Speaker 8: weren't interested. Their conflicting reports on that. But the Lions

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Speaker 8: have hired a gentleman by the name of Drew Petzing

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Speaker 8: who was with Arizona for three seasons and then he

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Speaker 8: was quietly dismissed. I started to do some homework on

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Speaker 8: him and mixed bag of results in his time in Arizona.

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Speaker 8: Detroit Lions fans are not exactly gee right now given

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Speaker 8: the potential of this offense. I mean, you've got Gibbs

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Speaker 8: Laporta's coming back com andraw. This is an offense. It's

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Speaker 8: on par with the Rams. When you talk about talent.

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Speaker 1: I would say this. You and I didn't spend a

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Speaker 1: lot of time watching or discussing Arizona. But if I

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Speaker 1: had a takeaway from Arizona this year is with a

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Speaker 1: defensive coach, their defense went into the toilet offensively. Arizona.

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Speaker 1: I looked up a lot during the season and they

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Speaker 1: were scoring twenty seven to twenty eight points.

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Speaker 9: Jacobe Brissett too was a quarter, right.

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Speaker 1: Right, so, and I think they've got some nice offensive pieces.

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Speaker 1: But I thought Arizona's offense everybody's banging on this guy.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you right now. The O line at

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Speaker 1: Detroit is the gold standard compared to what he dealt

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Speaker 1: with in Arizona. The ownership's better in Detroit, the front

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Speaker 1: office is better in Detroit. So I mean my takeaway

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Speaker 1: is everybody's criticizing this move. I watched enough Arizona to

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Speaker 1: think multiple times this year what their offense is kind

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Speaker 1: of interesting considering it's Jacoby Brissette. I was kind of

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Speaker 1: impressed with it.

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Speaker 8: I mean, they did lose their running back, spacing on

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Speaker 8: his name. He went down midway through the season, and

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Speaker 8: Marvin Harrison missed a million games and they still were

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Speaker 8: putting up points.

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Speaker 9: Michael Wilson emerged. So I guess I'm not going to render.

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Speaker 8: A judgment yet because there's too much talent on this

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Speaker 8: Lions team to just totally go in the town.

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Speaker 1: For top ten in passing offense and third down offense.

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Speaker 1: I don't know that. I think this guy is gonna

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Speaker 1: work in Detroit. I feel like today is he Ben Johnson.

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Speaker 1: There may not you get Ben Johnson. Like there's always

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Speaker 1: one or two coordinators that are top of class. That

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Speaker 1: was Ben Johnson. I think Detroit solved their biggest dilemma,

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Speaker 1: which is Dan Campbell had to take over play calling.

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Speaker 1: Coaches don't want to do that. I think this guy's

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Speaker 1: gonna work. That's my happening.

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Speaker 8: The other problem calling the NFC is like nine or

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Speaker 8: ten teams deep. Honestly, Yeah, Jaden Daniels says, let's not

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Speaker 8: forget him. Let's not forget Tampa, which cratered. Okay, this

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Speaker 8: is a really to conference. Lions probably get back to

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Speaker 8: the playoffs. But I'll tell you this, Minnesota Vikings, they're

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Speaker 8: going to be frisky next year with a HEALTHYJJ McCarthy.

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Speaker 1: How many games did Detroit win this year?

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Speaker 9: I think they were nine to eight.

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Speaker 1: Okay, they're over unders only going to be about ten.

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Speaker 1: One of the best bets on the board is take

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Speaker 1: Detroit's over over to this. Yeah, because this guy is

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Speaker 1: not going to instill great Vegas confidence or media confidence.

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Speaker 1: Detroit's really good. They have. They went and drafted last

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Speaker 1: year interior alignment. It wasn't a sexy draft. Detroit knows

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Speaker 1: what the hell they're doing upstairs. Dan Campbell builds a culture.

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Speaker 1: They had an OC issue last year and they just

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Speaker 1: solved it. In my opinion, Detroit is back to being

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Speaker 1: a formidable, capable NFC Championship contender. I'll stand on. The

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Speaker 1: Giants are my double the win total team and Detroit

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Speaker 1: is back in the playoffs.

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Speaker 8: Okay, so I cannot This is going to be a

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Speaker 8: fun offseason because you've got now Detroit and the Giants

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Speaker 8: in Yeah.

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Speaker 9: I'm curious who you're pulling.

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Speaker 8: Out of the player because I think by my notes

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Speaker 8: right here, say you got nine teams currently in the

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Speaker 8: playoffs colin in the NFC. So we got a winnow

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Speaker 8: that down here in the coming months.

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Speaker 9: Okay, not my guy.

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Speaker 1: Come on, Jay Mack with the news.

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Speaker 5: Well that's the news, and thanks for stopping by the line.

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Speaker 1: Usually I usually wait to the offseason. New York Giants

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Speaker 1: are my double the win total team and my Detroit

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Speaker 1: Lions are back into the playoffs team. I'll say it

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Speaker 1: right now. Do we tape this show? Are we back

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Speaker 1: to taping? Okay?

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Speaker 5: Be sure to catch live editions of The Herd weekdays

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Speaker 5: in neon eastern non am Pacific on Fox Sports Radio

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Speaker 8: Sunday on Fox with a trip to Super Bowl sixty

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Speaker 8: on the line, Matthew Stafford and the Rams take on

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Speaker 8: Sam Darnold in the top seeded Seahawks the NFC Championship

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Speaker 8: presented by into It Turbotex Sunday at six eastern three

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Speaker 1: One by one. Teams are hiring their next head coach.

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Speaker 1: The New York Giants got John Harbaugh. He is the

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Speaker 1: best coach on the market. Atlanta Kevin Stefanski Ivy League,

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Speaker 1: sharp offensive guy. Love that higher. The Titans got Robert

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Speaker 1: Sala was the best defensive coordinator in football this year,

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Speaker 1: doing it with a banged up Niners team. Miami got

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Speaker 1: Jeff Hafley, been a college head coach, you know, kind

655
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Speaker 1: of the opposite of McDaniel, no flash at all, could

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Speaker 1: be very good. The two best openings, and this is

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Speaker 1: kind of instructive here, the two best openings We think

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Speaker 1: Baltimore and Buffalo because of Lamar Jackson and Josh Allen.

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Speaker 1: Those are the two best openings, are they? What did

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Speaker 1: this season show us? What did these playoffs show us.

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Speaker 1: If you have a superstar quarterback and pay him a lot,

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Speaker 1: your roster's not going to be great. Kansas City pays

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Speaker 1: Mahomes a lot, bat Old line, Buffalo pays Josh Allen

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Speaker 1: a lot. No Pro bowlers on defense. Zero listen to this.

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Speaker 1: Zero of the top fifteen paid quarterbacks in the NFL

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Speaker 1: today are left in the playoffs. Let me give you

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Speaker 1: three really good rosters that don't appear to have any holes.

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Speaker 1: New England, Seattle, and Denver. New England and Denver quarterbacks

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Speaker 1: on their rookie deals. And Seattle has a GM that

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Speaker 1: doesn't miss in the draft. And Sam Darnold is on

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Speaker 1: a very team friendly deal. So I look at this

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Speaker 1: and I say to myself, well, Buffalo is the best job.

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Speaker 1: You're not going to have a lot of cap space. Well,

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Speaker 1: Baltimore is outstanding. Well what happens when Lamar Jackson renegotiates

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Speaker 1: his deal? I mean, and again, Baltimore drafts. Well, but

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Speaker 1: there are limitations it if Tom Brady was never the

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Speaker 1: highest paid quarterback in the league. Tom got it. Tom

678
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Speaker 1: gets a lot of things. He got it. Do you

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Speaker 1: want to win trophies? You can't worry about ego. You

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Speaker 1: can't be the highest paid quarterback. So Robert Solid to

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Speaker 1: the Titans and whoever coaches the Raiders were, Fernando Mendoza.

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Speaker 1: I get high end quarterback talent and number one and

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Speaker 1: two in the league in cap space. That's Denver. That's

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Speaker 1: what Chicago did. Chicago went and bought Joe Toney, Jonah Jackson,

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Speaker 1: and Drew Dolman an entirely new interior line. Just went

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Speaker 1: and bought it. What did they do this year in Chicago?

687
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Speaker 1: Much better? Avoid sacks? Well, their offensive line was great.

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Speaker 1: So here's John Harbaugh, who was the best coach on

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Speaker 1: the market. He not going to pay Jackson Dart anything

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Speaker 1: for four years. I mean, this is the recipe. This

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Speaker 1: is Bonix and Denver, this is Drake May. If Jackson

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Speaker 1: Dark can stay out a blue tent, they need a

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Speaker 1: right tackle, a tight end and probably a corner. But

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Speaker 1: here's John Harbaugh.

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Speaker 2: Our focus is simple. It starts with building a team

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Speaker 2: that is physical and tough, that's capable of overwhelming their

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Speaker 2: opponent from beginning to end and especially at the end,

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Speaker 2: that understands how to finish, that is smart and discipline.

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Speaker 2: It plays the game the way it should be played.

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Speaker 2: Nothing will be taken for granted. It will always always

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Speaker 2: be all about the team, the team, the team, the team.

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Speaker 2: Thanks Dad for that. It'll always be about Dad. Now

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Speaker 2: it's time to go to work.

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Speaker 1: Yeah again. Our perception, my perception. I'm thinking about this

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Speaker 1: this morning. Is Buffalo's the job, Baltimore, that's the one

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Speaker 1: you want. New York Giants, Tennessee Titans. Fernando Mendoza in

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Speaker 1: Las Vegas. Yea a massive cap space. Look at what

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Speaker 1: New England did to reinvent their roster in one year.

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Speaker 1: I mean New England had the worst receiving core in

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Speaker 1: the league, the slowest, not anymore. They drafted very well.

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Speaker 1: I look at the Giant and the Air. Thing with

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Speaker 1: the Giants is when you get the quarterback and the

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Speaker 1: coach right, it creates such clarity. They obviously need a

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Speaker 1: right tackle. That'll be their first pick. Everybody in the

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Speaker 1: league needs faster linebackers in the great corner. I think

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Speaker 1: they need to go out and get another tight end.

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Speaker 1: It's always you know, there's always tight ends out there, third, fourth,

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Speaker 1: fifth round. But this feels pretty good now he does.

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Speaker 1: That's at least one of the New York teams has

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Speaker 1: their act together. Big Blue is coming back. I'll say

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Speaker 1: it right now. Ten and seven at worst, twelve and

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Speaker 1: five in play.

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Speaker 8: Hey, by the way, Uh, you know, the New York

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Speaker 8: media a bunch of sharks. They just they just cannot

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Speaker 8: wait to tear this apart. They are grilling Joe Shane

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Speaker 8: on so the coach doesn't report to you who has

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Speaker 8: finals say over the roster. They're stirring the pot already. Uh,

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Speaker 8: It's gonna get ugly in New York. I'm gonna go

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Speaker 8: ahead and disagree with ten wins. Con I'll go seven

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Speaker 8: and a half.

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Speaker 9: Eight.

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Speaker 1: How many steak dinners you owe me I've lost?

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Speaker 9: Please play Battle Farm Lies