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Speaker 1: com slash Fantasyfellas. We have a thirteen game mainslate, lots

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Speaker 1: What do you think of these players? And I'd be

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Speaker 1: now who are catching your eye. Ian, I want to

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Speaker 1: there are three primary quarterbacks who are kind of standing out.

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Speaker 4: think the Lamar Miller trend. I mean we've seen this

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Speaker 3: Wide receiver's position. I'm probably spending up on at least

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Sean touched on it briefly, but Julio Jones man

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Speaker 5: He played fifty four fifty.

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Speaker 2: Well, I got shout out one other guy real quick.

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Speaker 2: The road splits are ridiculous. Oakland's given up, and you know,

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Speaker 1: Sleep and Pe. To your point about Tyreek Hill, I

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Speaker 1: came out today, Sean, I think you have Tyreek Hill

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Speaker 3: Is that right, Yes, I believe.

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Speaker 2: So I have no idea how they're going to stop Tyreek.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he's I mean, he's so expect though, he's you know,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he has a lower lower floor than normal too,

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Speaker 4: Do you guys remember of the same situation last year

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Speaker 4: Chief's coming off of bye at the Giants Ultimate Smash

434
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Speaker 4: Spot final score nine to twelve. I mean it seems

435
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Speaker 4: impossible for this to fail, but I don't know.

436
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Speaker 3: I mean, that was Alex Smith, right, that's true, that's true.

437
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Speaker 2: I will take over twelve points and I will lay Oh,

438
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Speaker 2: by god, I want to take that Pete.

439
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Speaker 1: You mentioned Kelsey there, let's transition to tight ends obviously

440
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Speaker 1: going against a defense that is just horrible, and they

441
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Speaker 1: are especially horrible against titands. I believe right now Oakland

442
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Speaker 1: is thirty second in past defense DVOA against the position.

443
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Speaker 1: And then George Kittle is someone who is also popping

444
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Speaker 1: in our models, getting a lot of target volume, but

445
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Speaker 1: coming off a game in which he wasn't super productive.

446
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Speaker 1: But those are the two kind of expensive guys who

447
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Speaker 1: are standing out in our models. Do you have a

448
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Speaker 1: sense of what you might be looking to do at

449
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Speaker 1: the tight end position?

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Speaker 2: I don't know if I'm gonna be playing Kelsey this week.

451
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Speaker 2: In cash, I mean, it's a lot to pay, and

452
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Speaker 2: there's some really nice cheap options right now. For sure,

453
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Speaker 2: the top guy in terms of just points per dollar

454
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Speaker 2: in my model is Matt lecost for Denver, which sounds

455
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Speaker 2: a little gross, but at bare minimum price on DraftKings

456
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Speaker 2: twenty five hundred coming off a game where he got

457
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Speaker 2: twelve points. I mean, obviously there's only four targets and

458
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Speaker 2: he kind of touchdown. I do think his involvement is

459
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Speaker 2: going to be higher going forward, So he's someone I'm

460
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Speaker 2: looking at as a peer. Punt in the mid range

461
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Speaker 2: Eric Ebron, now you know, no Doyle going forward. He's

462
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Speaker 2: been a touchdown machine all season. Jacksonville is just clearly

463
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Speaker 2: mailing it in. So hebron to me in the mid tier.

464
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Speaker 2: He's really high in my model as well. And then

465
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Speaker 2: you have a couple other plays that I think are intriguing.

466
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Speaker 2: You know, Greg against Tampa Bay. If you want to

467
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Speaker 2: sack him with Cam Newton, I have no problem with that.

468
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Speaker 2: You reference George Kittle. You still have Brat with Howard

469
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Speaker 2: out That is a nice play. So tight end. There's

470
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Speaker 2: more options than I can remember most weeks. Obviously we

471
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Speaker 2: don't have teams on Vibe, but I am intrigued by

472
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Speaker 2: you know, all the way down at Lacoste, all the

473
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Speaker 2: way up at Kelsey, and there's tons of options in between.

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Speaker 2: Right now on my model though it's Lacasse, Ibron and

475
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Speaker 2: Kelsey as the top three guys. Curious kind of where

476
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Speaker 2: everyone else comes in on this position.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know if anyone really uses the term

478
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Speaker 1: stone minimum anymore. You know, levit En coined a couple

479
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Speaker 1: of seasons ago, but that's where lacass is he is,

480
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Speaker 1: He's right there at the minimum. So definitely someone intriguing

481
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Speaker 1: going against the Cincinnati Bengals defense, which has been horrible

482
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Speaker 1: and specifically horrible against tight ends. So a good situation

483
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Speaker 1: for him. And we've seen you know, others tight ends

484
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Speaker 1: in Denver, like Hireman was, he was getting the volume,

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Speaker 1: he was getting target volume before the injury. So if

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Speaker 1: all of that shift to Lacosse, he could be someone

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Speaker 1: who is really intriguing.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, you said it, man.

489
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Speaker 4: I mean Hireman was there still is their leader in

490
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Speaker 4: targets inside the ten and twenty yard line this year,

491
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Speaker 4: so he's been their red zone factor. And I think,

492
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Speaker 4: I mean, Courtland Sutton's got all the talent in the world,

493
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Speaker 4: but I don't think he's really ready to be that

494
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Speaker 4: intermediate guy that the Marus Thomas has been for them.

495
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Speaker 4: So having a tight end, you know, we've seen Hireman

496
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Speaker 4: do it, we saw the cost start to do it

497
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Speaker 4: in those last two quarters. Last week, just having a

498
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Speaker 4: tight end to be in those kind of small window

499
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Speaker 4: areas and intermediate areas and the red zone. Good thing

500
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Speaker 4: to have. I think the one guy I'm kind of

501
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Speaker 4: targeting in tournaments, assuming Ebron is going to kind of

502
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Speaker 4: be the chalk with all the injuries there in Indy.

503
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Speaker 5: I mean, if.

504
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Speaker 4: Hewittt, Ali Cox and Eric Swooper out again to you know,

505
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Speaker 4: we could be looking at, you know, insane ownership for Ebron.

506
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Speaker 4: But I like, kind of moving right across to David Njoku.

507
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Speaker 4: We've seen Houston really get smashed by tight ends all season.

508
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Speaker 4: Each of Gronk Hireman, Jordan Reed, and Jon new Smith

509
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Speaker 4: have gone for at least sixty yards and a touchdown

510
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Speaker 4: against Houston their twenty eighth dboa against tight ends. I'm

511
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Speaker 4: pretty interested to see what this Cleveland offense can finally

512
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Speaker 4: doing a tough matchup.

513
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Speaker 5: They've been playing great lately.

514
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Speaker 4: They've been doing it against the Falcons Falcons Chiefs, and

515
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Speaker 4: finally we're going to see him at Houston. But I

516
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Speaker 4: think getting the joke he more involved should be a goal.

517
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Speaker 4: There's now that we've kind of seen that maybe forcing

518
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Speaker 4: fifteen targets a game that Jarvis Landry isn't the best

519
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Speaker 4: way to kind of control Baker Mayfield. So just getting

520
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Speaker 4: off some of the exposure to someone like the joke

521
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Speaker 4: that has a legitimate upside. The tight end position is

522
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Speaker 4: one move I'll be trying to.

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Speaker 1: Make Sean you have thoughts about tight end position, what

524
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Speaker 1: we're going to be doing there.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm pretty lined up with p I think, you know,

526
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Speaker 3: Eric Ebron and Matt mccross are my two top guys,

527
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Speaker 3: and then Greg Olsen is a potential pivot play from Ebron.

528
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Speaker 3: But you know what, when it comes to Lacosse, one

529
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Speaker 3: of the interesting things I found was he's actually had

530
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Speaker 3: a reception in all eight games he's played this year.

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Speaker 3: That might not sound like much, but when we're dealing

532
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Speaker 3: with mind price tight ends, it's actually pretty good. You know,

533
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Speaker 3: he's pretty consistent, and with Hireman on the IR you

534
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Speaker 3: should double his snaps. So I think that, you know,

535
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Speaker 3: his ceiling is pretty high in this game. So I'm

536
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Speaker 3: interesting to see what his ownership is going to be.

537
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Speaker 3: But boy, if you if you can save up at

538
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Speaker 3: tight end this week and you know, possibly fit in

539
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Speaker 3: two to three top receivers, I think that's gonna be

540
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Speaker 3: the way to go.

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Speaker 1: All right, let's talk a little bit about some of

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Speaker 1: the expensive players or you know, potentially popular players that

543
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Speaker 1: we are thinking we might want to avoid this week. Obviously,

544
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Speaker 1: you know this could change based on ownership projections and

545
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Speaker 1: things like that. But Pete, I want to kick it

546
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Speaker 1: to you. Are there any any players that right now

547
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Speaker 1: you're just kind of looking at your thinking, you know what,

548
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Speaker 1: I might want to stay away from that guy?

549
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Speaker 2: And this this part of the show is always hard.

550
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Speaker 2: Like last week, I said Christian McCaffrey on the show,

551
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Speaker 2: and then later on he was like, my conviction play.

552
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Speaker 2: So this is this is a part of the sec

553
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Speaker 2: the show that I just have been struggling with all year,

554
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Speaker 2: trying to like get creative on like the chalk that

555
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Speaker 2: seems like they're going to fail. So I'll talk about

556
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Speaker 2: a spot that I think has tremendous upside, but there

557
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Speaker 2: are ways that this goes down in a bad way.

558
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Speaker 2: Looking at the Rams in particular, I still love Jared Goff,

559
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Speaker 2: I love these receivers, but Detroit can play really slow

560
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Speaker 2: and without Marvin Jones and just kind of the way

561
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Speaker 2: their team's playing right now. This could be a spot

562
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Speaker 2: where the Rams defense gets a touchdown. Gurley coming off

563
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Speaker 2: you know, not a very productive game, and that you know,

564
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Speaker 2: just a historic, amazing game that we saw on Monday

565
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Speaker 2: Night football. Maybe it's a game where Curley scores two

566
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Speaker 2: or three touchdowns, the defense gets a touchdown and they

567
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Speaker 2: don't really need to use Robert Woods and Brandon Cooks

568
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Speaker 2: and Jared Goff has a disappointing game. So I think

569
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Speaker 2: there's that's a polarizing spot. I could see all of

570
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Speaker 2: them go off in the right scenario, but in the

571
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Speaker 2: wrong scenario, that passing game could do poorly. So it's

572
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Speaker 2: not something I have a conviction on, but it's one

573
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Speaker 2: of those spots where there's a wide range of outcomes

574
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Speaker 2: and something to be cognisus.

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Speaker 3: Of the guys I might try to avoid a little bit.

576
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Speaker 3: And GVPS are the Chiefs passing guys, So like Patrick Mahomes,

577
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Speaker 3: Tyree Hill, Travis Kelsey, you know, all three are you know,

578
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Speaker 3: top at each position in my raw projections. But I

579
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Speaker 3: think their ceiling could be lower than people think. And

580
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Speaker 3: that's that's ultimately what we're paying up for in GPPs

581
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Speaker 3: for these guys. When it comes to the Raiders, they've

582
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Speaker 3: only allowed one three hundred yard passing game this year.

583
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Speaker 3: And seven of the eleven qbs they face have thrown

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Speaker 3: for less than two hundred and forty yards, not likely

585
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Speaker 3: due to their stout pass defense, but just you know,

586
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Speaker 3: the blowout potential. So I think these case guys, you know,

587
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Speaker 3: they have the touchdown potential, but I don't think they're

588
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Speaker 3: going to run at the score. We saw, you know,

589
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Speaker 3: how they played the Cardinals a couple of weeks ago.

590
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Speaker 3: They could disappoint a little bit. Having said that, I

591
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Speaker 3: think a guy like Kareem Hunt could be an interesting

592
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Speaker 3: pivot play if you're fading all three of these guys

593
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Speaker 3: on a certain team, you know, if he busts for

594
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Speaker 3: a couple long touchdown rounds to start the game, it's

595
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Speaker 3: going to lower the ceiling of these other guys. So

596
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Speaker 3: I might be going on my way to kind of

597
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Speaker 3: fade these guys this week.

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Speaker 4: I am not eyeing DeAndre Hopkins this week. I mentioned

599
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Speaker 4: it before, but just he used to becoming this run

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Speaker 4: for offense and we're seeing this where where on the

601
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Speaker 4: DeAndre Hopkins a little bit. In addition to that, I

602
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Speaker 4: just don't know if Hopkins and Watson in general have

603
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Speaker 4: this same sky high ceiling without will Fuller drawing attention

604
00:27:11,600 --> 00:27:14,720
Speaker 4: around every single play Pete mentioned earlier. But to Marius Thomas,

605
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Speaker 4: I mean, he's helpful, but he's not that same field

606
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Speaker 4: stretcher and kind of guy that's going to demand a

607
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Speaker 4: defense's attention every single play. And accordingly, now we've seen

608
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Speaker 4: Hopkins play ten games without Fuller over the last two seasons,

609
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Speaker 4: he's been held under one hundred yards and eight of

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Speaker 4: those ten games it only has four total touchdowns to

611
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Speaker 4: show for it. So the Browns have the number two

612
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Speaker 4: defense and pass DVOA. I mean they've been solid there,

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Speaker 4: they've been They've really mixed it up with how they

614
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Speaker 4: cover number ones. They've had Denzel Ward shadows sometimes, TJ

615
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Speaker 4: Carey others. They even moved to Marius Randall to cornerback

616
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Speaker 4: one week. So not quite sure how they're going to

617
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Speaker 4: do it, but they've been pretty successful locking up number

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Speaker 4: one this year. And when Houston just really doesn't have

619
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Speaker 4: another option. You know, with all due respected Demarus Thomas

620
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Speaker 4: his great career, I don't think there's another option they

621
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Speaker 4: really need to worry about as nearly as much as Deandres.

622
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Speaker 4: So just don't think he has that a GPP winning upside.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and to your point. You know, people might think

624
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Speaker 1: that the split that really would determine the success for

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Speaker 1: Hopkins over the last couple of seasons would be is

626
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Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson in or is he not? But Hopkins has

627
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Speaker 1: been productive basically across that split. The split that really

628
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Speaker 1: matters for him has been whether Will Fuller is in

629
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Speaker 1: the game, just because he opens up a lot for

630
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Speaker 1: the other players in that offense. So yeah, we're we're

631
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Speaker 1: not seeing the same production out of Hopkins since Fuller

632
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Speaker 1: went out of the lineup. Let's talk about the games

633
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Speaker 1: that are standing out. Of course, you can see these

634
00:28:37,800 --> 00:28:40,720
Speaker 1: in our live odds page at the Action Network. Obviously,

635
00:28:40,760 --> 00:28:43,320
Speaker 1: there are three really high scoring games on the slate,

636
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Speaker 1: Panthers at Bucks that has a over under fifty six,

637
00:28:47,160 --> 00:28:50,320
Speaker 1: Chiefs at Raiders fifty five, and the Rams Atllions fifty

638
00:28:50,360 --> 00:28:52,960
Speaker 1: four and a half. I'm assuming that you know, we

639
00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:55,120
Speaker 1: are all interested in those games. A lot of the

640
00:28:55,120 --> 00:28:57,680
Speaker 1: players we've talked about are the guys in those games.

641
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Speaker 1: Are there any other games, kind of less obvious games

642
00:29:01,240 --> 00:29:02,920
Speaker 1: that you might be looking to stack that you can

643
00:29:03,000 --> 00:29:08,560
Speaker 1: sort of expect some enhanced fantasy goodness out of those matchups, Pete,

644
00:29:08,680 --> 00:29:09,400
Speaker 1: let's start with you.

645
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Speaker 2: One in particular that I think is we haven't really

646
00:29:12,800 --> 00:29:16,880
Speaker 2: talked much about is this Colts Jacksonville game. So Ebron

647
00:29:16,920 --> 00:29:19,360
Speaker 2: is gonna end up being shocky. We know that, but

648
00:29:19,440 --> 00:29:21,280
Speaker 2: t Y Hilton is not going to get much love.

649
00:29:21,320 --> 00:29:23,360
Speaker 2: And yeah, Jalen Ramsey's on the other side, but this

650
00:29:23,480 --> 00:29:25,760
Speaker 2: defense has really mailed it in. And the nice thing

651
00:29:25,800 --> 00:29:28,960
Speaker 2: without Leonard Fournett. We saw this earlier the Jaguars were

652
00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:32,280
Speaker 2: playing up in pace. Now it's a different quarterback situation.

653
00:29:32,920 --> 00:29:35,600
Speaker 2: There's a lot of you know, turmoil within the organization,

654
00:29:35,760 --> 00:29:38,280
Speaker 2: but this turns into like a T. J. Yelden game

655
00:29:38,320 --> 00:29:41,120
Speaker 2: where they're throwing the ball a lot more. We know

656
00:29:41,200 --> 00:29:43,160
Speaker 2: the Colts are going to play with pace. Marlon Mack

657
00:29:43,280 --> 00:29:45,720
Speaker 2: is doubtful. So if this is a spot where Nahem

658
00:29:45,800 --> 00:29:48,240
Speaker 2: Hines and Yelden are on the field a lot, there

659
00:29:48,240 --> 00:29:50,000
Speaker 2: could be a lot of plays in this game. So

660
00:29:50,040 --> 00:29:52,200
Speaker 2: that's that's one spot that I think is sneaky when

661
00:29:52,200 --> 00:29:54,160
Speaker 2: you hit on the games I really want to stack up.

662
00:29:54,200 --> 00:29:56,960
Speaker 2: But that's the one game just from a pace perspective

663
00:29:57,040 --> 00:29:59,680
Speaker 2: that is interesting. You know, the pay stats for the Jaguars,

664
00:29:59,680 --> 00:30:01,880
Speaker 2: like I just alluded to, have been kind of all

665
00:30:01,920 --> 00:30:05,280
Speaker 2: over the place, but without Leonard Furnett, I think it's

666
00:30:05,360 --> 00:30:07,440
Speaker 2: a spot where we could see a lot more plays.

667
00:30:07,560 --> 00:30:09,800
Speaker 2: So curious your guys' thoughts on that game and some

668
00:30:09,840 --> 00:30:11,760
Speaker 2: other games you think are good to stack.

669
00:30:12,040 --> 00:30:15,920
Speaker 3: Probably the top game I'm gonna stack is the Rams Lions.

670
00:30:16,080 --> 00:30:19,080
Speaker 3: We haven't mentioned yet, but Theo Riddick could be, you know,

671
00:30:19,120 --> 00:30:21,680
Speaker 3: in a smash spot if kirie On Johnson's ruled out again,

672
00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:24,480
Speaker 3: you know, especially with you know, Golden Tate and Marvin

673
00:30:24,560 --> 00:30:27,160
Speaker 3: Jones gone. You know, he's almost like their second receiver,

674
00:30:27,520 --> 00:30:29,920
Speaker 3: so I could see him playing a big part in

675
00:30:30,080 --> 00:30:32,360
Speaker 3: comeback mode against the Rams. So I think that game

676
00:30:32,480 --> 00:30:35,720
Speaker 3: offers the most stacking potential. The more under the radar

677
00:30:35,840 --> 00:30:38,920
Speaker 3: game that might offer some good game stacks is the

678
00:30:39,000 --> 00:30:43,320
Speaker 3: Ravens Falcons game, especially if Lamar Jackson's QB. You kind

679
00:30:43,320 --> 00:30:45,920
Speaker 3: of have to get creative when you know, stacking with

680
00:30:46,040 --> 00:30:48,960
Speaker 3: Lamar Jackson, you don't want to waste a wide receiver slot.

681
00:30:49,040 --> 00:30:51,360
Speaker 3: So I could see potentially stacking him with one of

682
00:30:51,400 --> 00:30:54,800
Speaker 3: the rookie tight ends like Mark Andrews or Hayden Hurrison

683
00:30:54,880 --> 00:30:57,600
Speaker 3: just try to get a cheap touchdown there. But I

684
00:30:57,640 --> 00:31:00,959
Speaker 3: love Lamar Jackson's upside against this Falcons d fence at

685
00:31:01,000 --> 00:31:03,240
Speaker 3: the Dome and then you know, send it back with

686
00:31:03,480 --> 00:31:05,800
Speaker 3: Julio or Calvin Ridley. So I think this game might

687
00:31:05,800 --> 00:31:10,680
Speaker 3: be an underappreciated stack. The totals approaching fifty, so this

688
00:31:10,720 --> 00:31:12,720
Speaker 3: could be a good shootout.

689
00:31:13,240 --> 00:31:15,400
Speaker 1: I mean it's possible. I mean, Pete, do you think

690
00:31:15,440 --> 00:31:18,160
Speaker 1: you even have to stack in terms of his own

691
00:31:18,200 --> 00:31:20,920
Speaker 1: team with Lamar Jackson or are you would you be

692
00:31:20,960 --> 00:31:23,640
Speaker 1: fine with rolling him out naked and then game stacking

693
00:31:23,720 --> 00:31:24,600
Speaker 1: on the other side.

694
00:31:24,880 --> 00:31:27,520
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I mean one hundred percent uncomfortable going Lamar

695
00:31:27,560 --> 00:31:30,600
Speaker 2: Jackson by himself. You know, we saw one rushing touchdown

696
00:31:30,680 --> 00:31:32,880
Speaker 2: last week. We didn't really see I think he didn't

697
00:31:32,880 --> 00:31:34,440
Speaker 2: score the week before we had where he had all

698
00:31:34,440 --> 00:31:36,400
Speaker 2: the rush attempts but went for over one hundred yards.

699
00:31:36,400 --> 00:31:39,320
Speaker 2: I mean, when everything comes together and Lamar Jackson, you know,

700
00:31:39,400 --> 00:31:42,520
Speaker 2: is running the ball a lot and scoring touchdowns, I

701
00:31:42,520 --> 00:31:44,680
Speaker 2: mean you could see just a monster game. I mean,

702
00:31:44,960 --> 00:31:47,280
Speaker 2: Lamar Jackson could have a one hundred plus yard rushing

703
00:31:47,320 --> 00:31:50,080
Speaker 2: game with two touchdowns. I do think they're trying to

704
00:31:50,120 --> 00:31:52,840
Speaker 2: be a little bit more conservative with him to avoid injury,

705
00:31:52,920 --> 00:31:56,520
Speaker 2: but the upside is absolutely still there. So I have

706
00:31:56,600 --> 00:32:00,320
Speaker 2: no problem going Jackson by himself and then backing up

707
00:32:00,360 --> 00:32:04,320
Speaker 2: the other side. I mean, Julio Jones is incredible. I've

708
00:32:04,320 --> 00:32:06,360
Speaker 2: been in Tevin Coleman truth all year and that's been

709
00:32:06,440 --> 00:32:09,120
Speaker 2: very disappointing. But I have no problem going with Ridley.

710
00:32:09,160 --> 00:32:11,120
Speaker 2: I have no problem going Hooper, who's going to be

711
00:32:11,280 --> 00:32:14,040
Speaker 2: very low owned in this matchup, especially with de Broyn

712
00:32:14,120 --> 00:32:16,800
Speaker 2: just a little bit more expensive, and even Greg Olsen,

713
00:32:16,840 --> 00:32:19,200
Speaker 2: who will garner ownership in the Cam Newton stacks. So

714
00:32:19,680 --> 00:32:23,120
Speaker 2: I have no problem with that. That that mold and yeah,

715
00:32:23,200 --> 00:32:26,280
Speaker 2: Lamar Jackson, I mean he's a running back and essentially

716
00:32:26,400 --> 00:32:28,480
Speaker 2: and what have we been doing all year against Atlanta

717
00:32:28,600 --> 00:32:31,280
Speaker 2: targeting running backs? So I have no problem with it.

718
00:32:31,960 --> 00:32:34,400
Speaker 4: What are you thinking I can't bag us lf the stats?

719
00:32:34,440 --> 00:32:36,480
Speaker 4: I'm Lamar Jackson on turf in a dome. I mean,

720
00:32:36,600 --> 00:32:38,239
Speaker 4: he's just got to be faster, right, I mean he's

721
00:32:38,280 --> 00:32:41,320
Speaker 4: already just fourth in the entire league among quarterbacks and

722
00:32:41,400 --> 00:32:44,440
Speaker 4: rushing yards. I know he had these sub packages before

723
00:32:44,480 --> 00:32:46,400
Speaker 4: the season, but I mean it's it's truly just unique.

724
00:32:46,440 --> 00:32:48,680
Speaker 4: And I mean I think, as Pete said, we've seen

725
00:32:48,720 --> 00:32:50,880
Speaker 4: the Falcons just trouble I mean have all this trouble

726
00:32:50,960 --> 00:32:52,920
Speaker 4: defending running backs, and it's kind of carried over to

727
00:32:53,000 --> 00:32:56,160
Speaker 4: rushing quarterbacks. I mean they're a bottom eight defense against

728
00:32:56,240 --> 00:32:59,480
Speaker 4: quarterbacks and rushing yards and touchdowns, which makes sense. You know,

729
00:32:59,480 --> 00:33:01,400
Speaker 4: when they're kind of built to sit back, it's going

730
00:33:01,480 --> 00:33:03,880
Speaker 4: to open up kind of more seams up the middle

731
00:33:03,960 --> 00:33:06,040
Speaker 4: that you can kind of exploit with draws. One other

732
00:33:06,080 --> 00:33:07,400
Speaker 4: game I want to look at a little bit is

733
00:33:07,440 --> 00:33:10,080
Speaker 4: of Vikings at the Patriots. I think anytime we had

734
00:33:10,160 --> 00:33:12,240
Speaker 4: two quarterbacks that's good playing each other. I mean there's

735
00:33:12,240 --> 00:33:15,280
Speaker 4: always a chance for a shootout with that. Xavier Rhodes

736
00:33:15,600 --> 00:33:18,760
Speaker 4: has a quote very very minor hamstring injury according to

737
00:33:18,760 --> 00:33:21,960
Speaker 4: Mike Zemmer. But we've obviously seen the Vikings have some

738
00:33:22,440 --> 00:33:25,240
Speaker 4: interesting injury comments earlier in the week and doesn't always

739
00:33:25,240 --> 00:33:27,600
Speaker 4: turn out to be the case. On Sunday expecting the

740
00:33:27,680 --> 00:33:29,800
Speaker 4: Vikings Patriots to have the single highest pace of the

741
00:33:29,800 --> 00:33:32,960
Speaker 4: week just in front of that Indie Jacksonville game, So

742
00:33:33,000 --> 00:33:34,600
Speaker 4: I think there could be a lot of plays and

743
00:33:34,760 --> 00:33:36,360
Speaker 4: you know, there's just a lot of options here. We

744
00:33:36,360 --> 00:33:38,840
Speaker 4: saw Gronk come back last week score a touchdown, had

745
00:33:38,880 --> 00:33:41,800
Speaker 4: a couple other end zone chances, So Bikings side the

746
00:33:41,800 --> 00:33:43,680
Speaker 4: ball and Patriots. I think there's a lot of guys

747
00:33:43,720 --> 00:33:44,880
Speaker 4: that could potentially go off here.

748
00:33:45,160 --> 00:33:47,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's an interesting one. And that's a game we

749
00:33:47,760 --> 00:33:50,280
Speaker 1: haven't talked about at all, but you know, two offenses

750
00:33:50,320 --> 00:33:52,720
Speaker 1: that could definitely put up some points. Let's talk about

751
00:33:52,760 --> 00:33:55,400
Speaker 1: our favorite. I don't know what we're calling this section,

752
00:33:55,520 --> 00:33:58,640
Speaker 1: like the Pseudo Bowl, non obvious picks. One has to

753
00:33:58,680 --> 00:34:00,480
Speaker 1: do with the game, one has to to do with

754
00:34:00,840 --> 00:34:03,600
Speaker 1: fantasy Pete. Let's kick it to you this week.

755
00:34:03,680 --> 00:34:06,520
Speaker 2: In terms of a game. One one thing I think

756
00:34:06,720 --> 00:34:09,680
Speaker 2: is just so interesting is this Denver Bronco team. Now, listen,

757
00:34:09,719 --> 00:34:13,040
Speaker 2: I'm biased. I dis Josh Shelby Harris and he had

758
00:34:13,040 --> 00:34:15,920
Speaker 2: the game winning interception, and they're favored. But I have

759
00:34:16,000 --> 00:34:17,680
Speaker 2: to go out and say, the Broncos are gonna win

760
00:34:17,680 --> 00:34:19,920
Speaker 2: by multiple touchdowns? How are they going to do it?

761
00:34:20,000 --> 00:34:22,080
Speaker 2: They're gonna do it with Courtland Sutton and my man

762
00:34:22,080 --> 00:34:25,600
Speaker 2: Emmanuel Sanders and the Cost. I'm saying that right now.

763
00:34:25,719 --> 00:34:28,640
Speaker 2: I think that we see a career game from case Keenum,

764
00:34:28,719 --> 00:34:31,840
Speaker 2: my boy court and Sutton finally gets a big game,

765
00:34:32,040 --> 00:34:34,920
Speaker 2: the Cost scores a touchdown and Emmanuel Sanders scores a

766
00:34:34,920 --> 00:34:38,520
Speaker 2: touchdown for hashtag team Sex. So the whole WAYMMI all

767
00:34:38,520 --> 00:34:41,319
Speaker 2: the bias, all the broncos. I hope you guys think

768
00:34:41,360 --> 00:34:42,320
Speaker 2: that's sufficiently bold.

769
00:34:42,560 --> 00:34:46,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that is. That probably encapsulates your fantasy

770
00:34:46,320 --> 00:34:46,919
Speaker 1: call as well.

771
00:34:47,000 --> 00:34:49,799
Speaker 2: I'm assuming, oh yeah, that's I mean, we haven't hit

772
00:34:49,840 --> 00:34:51,800
Speaker 2: on all those any of those guys really accept the costs.

773
00:34:51,840 --> 00:34:54,879
Speaker 2: But that's my fantasy bold call is Keendom throws four

774
00:34:54,920 --> 00:34:55,720
Speaker 2: touchdowns somehow.

775
00:34:56,000 --> 00:35:00,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's that's sufficiently bold. Sean, what you got?

776
00:35:00,760 --> 00:35:03,680
Speaker 3: So for real life, I have the Lions making this

777
00:35:03,760 --> 00:35:06,719
Speaker 3: game closer than we think. I would definitely take them

778
00:35:06,719 --> 00:35:09,280
Speaker 3: plus ten ten and a half right now. My initial

779
00:35:09,320 --> 00:35:12,560
Speaker 3: power ratings has this been closer a touchdown, so I

780
00:35:12,560 --> 00:35:14,759
Speaker 3: think they keep it close. I'm not going to go

781
00:35:14,800 --> 00:35:16,960
Speaker 3: bold enough to say they'll beat the Rams, but I'll

782
00:35:17,000 --> 00:35:19,120
Speaker 3: say the Rams win by a field goal. And then

783
00:35:19,400 --> 00:35:23,000
Speaker 3: for DFS, I'm going with cream Hunt being the top

784
00:35:23,080 --> 00:35:25,320
Speaker 3: running back on the main slate for all the reasons

785
00:35:25,560 --> 00:35:28,040
Speaker 3: I laid out in my pivot call, Ian.

786
00:35:27,800 --> 00:35:28,600
Speaker 1: What you got?

787
00:35:28,800 --> 00:35:30,879
Speaker 4: I think the Vikings going to fox Burrow and get

788
00:35:30,880 --> 00:35:34,000
Speaker 4: an outright victory. This offense looks a lot better with

789
00:35:34,040 --> 00:35:36,960
Speaker 4: a healthy Dalvin cooking there. And I mean the defense

790
00:35:36,960 --> 00:35:39,279
Speaker 4: low key was not very good to start this year

791
00:35:39,280 --> 00:35:40,960
Speaker 4: for the first month or two, but they've really kind

792
00:35:40,960 --> 00:35:43,000
Speaker 4: of started to come around, I believe. I mean, Josh

793
00:35:43,080 --> 00:35:46,160
Speaker 4: McDaniel said today, best third down defense in the league

794
00:35:46,200 --> 00:35:49,440
Speaker 4: by far. Definitely very good situationally. I mean they've played

795
00:35:49,440 --> 00:35:51,600
Speaker 4: the Rams, Saints and Bears very tight this year. I

796
00:35:51,600 --> 00:35:53,720
Speaker 4: just think they can put things together finally and squeak

797
00:35:53,760 --> 00:35:56,600
Speaker 4: one out against the Pats and my bold DFS play.

798
00:35:56,800 --> 00:35:59,000
Speaker 4: I'm with Pete on the Denver call, but I'm looking

799
00:35:59,040 --> 00:36:01,360
Speaker 4: at the wrung game man Phillip Lindsay's week. He'd be

800
00:36:01,400 --> 00:36:05,120
Speaker 4: a top five overall RB on the slate. Devonte Booker

801
00:36:05,160 --> 00:36:07,800
Speaker 4: only had six snaps last week. Finally we got Booker

802
00:36:07,800 --> 00:36:10,480
Speaker 4: out of the picture, but Lindsay out touched Framan fourteen

803
00:36:10,480 --> 00:36:13,200
Speaker 4: to six. Though, I mean we're looking at legit kind

804
00:36:13,200 --> 00:36:16,640
Speaker 4: of RB one usage potentially and moving forward. I mean, Broncos,

805
00:36:16,680 --> 00:36:18,600
Speaker 4: I don't really think they have a shot at the playoffs,

806
00:36:18,600 --> 00:36:20,319
Speaker 4: but they're still in contention. It makes sense for them

807
00:36:20,320 --> 00:36:22,879
Speaker 4: to feed their best players, and Lindsay's been that guy

808
00:36:22,920 --> 00:36:25,880
Speaker 4: this year, throwing the Bengals thirty second in points per

809
00:36:25,920 --> 00:36:29,600
Speaker 4: game allowed. They're a bottom five defense against RBS, really quitting.

810
00:36:29,680 --> 00:36:31,840
Speaker 4: I mean, they haven't been a cover RBS all season.

811
00:36:31,920 --> 00:36:33,680
Speaker 4: So I just think Lindsay's speed is going to be

812
00:36:33,960 --> 00:36:37,160
Speaker 4: a lot of problems and a potential, you know, big

813
00:36:37,200 --> 00:36:37,799
Speaker 4: time win there.

814
00:36:37,840 --> 00:36:40,080
Speaker 5: He could have more enough touches to handle. So give

815
00:36:40,080 --> 00:36:41,520
Speaker 5: me Lindsay and give me the bakings.

816
00:36:42,280 --> 00:36:44,920
Speaker 1: And as you said that, I could just see Sean

817
00:36:45,400 --> 00:36:49,840
Speaker 1: mentally recalibrating his rushing yardage prop that he's going to

818
00:36:49,880 --> 00:36:52,280
Speaker 1: give us later on Lindsay. He bumped it up probably

819
00:36:52,360 --> 00:36:54,799
Speaker 1: at least seven yards based on that real quick.

820
00:36:54,840 --> 00:36:57,120
Speaker 2: I want to just ask Sean another question because I've

821
00:36:57,120 --> 00:36:59,520
Speaker 2: been you know, first glance. I'm struggling a little bit

822
00:36:59,520 --> 00:37:02,000
Speaker 2: with this line, but it makes me very excited to

823
00:37:02,080 --> 00:37:04,759
Speaker 2: hear that you are bullish on the Lions keeping this

824
00:37:04,840 --> 00:37:07,719
Speaker 2: game close. I'm hopeful the Rams can put a lot

825
00:37:07,719 --> 00:37:09,920
Speaker 2: of points on the board, and it's spread out between

826
00:37:09,920 --> 00:37:12,480
Speaker 2: all these great options. What gives you optimism about this

827
00:37:12,560 --> 00:37:13,120
Speaker 2: Lions team?

828
00:37:13,320 --> 00:37:15,120
Speaker 3: I just think it's it's gonna be a bit of

829
00:37:15,160 --> 00:37:18,200
Speaker 3: a trap game. I don't really have many good things

830
00:37:18,200 --> 00:37:20,480
Speaker 3: to say about the Lions, but you know, I think

831
00:37:20,560 --> 00:37:24,120
Speaker 3: Stafford can get together and keep it close enough. And yeah, ultimately,

832
00:37:24,320 --> 00:37:26,680
Speaker 3: you know, with this call, I'm thinking that it helps

833
00:37:26,680 --> 00:37:29,880
Speaker 3: elevate the ceiling of all, you know, the Rams passing attacks.

834
00:37:29,920 --> 00:37:32,719
Speaker 3: So I'm looking at from that perspective for sure that

835
00:37:32,760 --> 00:37:35,440
Speaker 3: the Lions offense will be able to keep it, you know,

836
00:37:35,480 --> 00:37:37,560
Speaker 3: close enough where they just won't mail it in the

837
00:37:37,560 --> 00:37:38,080
Speaker 3: rest of the way.

838
00:37:38,480 --> 00:37:42,080
Speaker 2: I'm just thinking about this Rams defensive line versus Lions

839
00:37:42,160 --> 00:37:44,840
Speaker 2: offensive line and thinking there might be a lot of sacks,

840
00:37:44,880 --> 00:37:47,279
Speaker 2: but we mitigate that, gets all quick, get it up

841
00:37:47,320 --> 00:37:51,000
Speaker 2: to THEO Riddick and exactly that works for Galladay getting

842
00:37:51,000 --> 00:37:52,279
Speaker 2: some big passes down the road too.

843
00:37:52,560 --> 00:37:55,760
Speaker 1: Okay for my bold call for a game, the Browns

844
00:37:55,760 --> 00:37:57,720
Speaker 1: are on the road at six and a half point dogs,

845
00:37:57,719 --> 00:38:00,200
Speaker 1: I think they get the outright win. They're often is

846
00:38:00,239 --> 00:38:02,759
Speaker 1: really rounding and it's a form. Their defense has some playmakers,

847
00:38:02,760 --> 00:38:05,040
Speaker 1: and the Texans are on the flukiest eight game winning

848
00:38:05,080 --> 00:38:08,680
Speaker 1: streak in NFL history. Like they face backup quarterbacks, They've

849
00:38:08,680 --> 00:38:11,160
Speaker 1: won a number of close games, some in overtime. I

850
00:38:11,280 --> 00:38:13,040
Speaker 1: just I don't buy what that team is selling. I

851
00:38:13,080 --> 00:38:16,040
Speaker 1: want to bet against them at every opportunity and then

852
00:38:16,080 --> 00:38:19,120
Speaker 1: my bold call for fantasy is that Aaron Aaron Jones

853
00:38:19,160 --> 00:38:21,480
Speaker 1: finishes the week as the number one scoring running back

854
00:38:21,960 --> 00:38:24,640
Speaker 1: and Fantasy. He's got a lot of backfield work now.

855
00:38:24,680 --> 00:38:28,400
Speaker 1: He's very talented, big home favorite. The Cardinals have allowed

856
00:38:28,400 --> 00:38:31,239
Speaker 1: the most Fantasy points in the league to opposing backfields,

857
00:38:31,400 --> 00:38:33,719
Speaker 1: so I'm going to be all over a number of

858
00:38:33,719 --> 00:38:36,280
Speaker 1: his props, which brings us, of course, to the prop

859
00:38:36,360 --> 00:38:39,359
Speaker 1: betting segment of the show. Sewn sets lines for us

860
00:38:39,400 --> 00:38:42,560
Speaker 1: and we lose because Shawn is good. His projection's powered

861
00:38:42,560 --> 00:38:45,040
Speaker 1: the Fantasy labist models as well as our props tools,

862
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Speaker 1: which aggregates the player props from online sportsbooks, compares them

863
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Speaker 1: to Shawn's projections, and shows which best provide the most

864
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Speaker 1: value the season. The props with a bet quality of

865
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Speaker 1: ten are one ninety six ninety one to nine, good

866
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Speaker 1: for a hit rate of sixty six percent. Be sure

867
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Speaker 1: to check out the props at Fantasy Labs for subscribers only, Sean,

868
00:39:03,239 --> 00:39:05,080
Speaker 1: what props do you have for us this week?

869
00:39:05,360 --> 00:39:07,680
Speaker 3: So kicking us off at quarterback, I'm gonna have to

870
00:39:07,719 --> 00:39:12,400
Speaker 3: go with Jeff Driscoll's DK points. I'm going to just

871
00:39:12,440 --> 00:39:13,839
Speaker 3: throw it out there and you guys are gonna help

872
00:39:13,880 --> 00:39:15,600
Speaker 3: me figure this out. I think with him, he has

873
00:39:15,600 --> 00:39:18,560
Speaker 3: some sneaky upside with his rushing potential. So I wanted

874
00:39:18,600 --> 00:39:20,840
Speaker 3: to hear your thoughts, but right now I have the

875
00:39:20,920 --> 00:39:23,000
Speaker 3: line set at fourteen and a half.

876
00:39:23,000 --> 00:39:25,560
Speaker 2: Goes against my bold call, but I'll say over. I

877
00:39:25,560 --> 00:39:28,440
Speaker 2: think the rushing upside for him is really really sneaky

878
00:39:28,840 --> 00:39:33,160
Speaker 2: and correlated with my prop. If there's some sneaky garbage time,

879
00:39:33,719 --> 00:39:35,600
Speaker 2: I think he gets there. He was really a fiction

880
00:39:35,760 --> 00:39:37,560
Speaker 2: in garbage time in this last game.

881
00:39:37,680 --> 00:39:38,960
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'll take the over there as well.

882
00:39:39,000 --> 00:39:41,600
Speaker 4: I mean, like Shawn said, two rushing touchdowns on a

883
00:39:41,680 --> 00:39:44,520
Speaker 4: six rush attempts this season. I believe dress gooll is,

884
00:39:44,560 --> 00:39:46,480
Speaker 4: you know, one of the last quarterbacks over my recruited

885
00:39:46,520 --> 00:39:48,520
Speaker 4: at Florida back in the day, so definitely has that

886
00:39:48,680 --> 00:39:51,040
Speaker 4: dual threat ability. I mean, we've seen Denver just not

887
00:39:51,080 --> 00:39:53,399
Speaker 4: really be the same defense away from home. So even

888
00:39:53,400 --> 00:39:56,200
Speaker 4: if the Bengals are pretty much injured across the board,

889
00:39:56,640 --> 00:39:58,600
Speaker 4: Dress go run around, can maybe get get Boyd a

890
00:39:58,600 --> 00:39:59,200
Speaker 4: touchdown or two.

891
00:39:59,320 --> 00:40:01,480
Speaker 5: Ay J Green turns outs even better, So I'll take

892
00:40:01,480 --> 00:40:01,799
Speaker 5: the over.

893
00:40:02,080 --> 00:40:04,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll take the over as well. And for me,

894
00:40:04,239 --> 00:40:07,160
Speaker 1: it is tied to like the the twin pillars of

895
00:40:07,280 --> 00:40:11,439
Speaker 1: like garbage time and rushing ability. I think that that's

896
00:40:11,440 --> 00:40:14,520
Speaker 1: how we'll get there, not that he's actually a good quarterback,

897
00:40:14,520 --> 00:40:16,279
Speaker 1: although I don't know, maybe maybe he is, but I

898
00:40:16,280 --> 00:40:18,440
Speaker 1: think it will be sort of like the Blake Portals

899
00:40:18,560 --> 00:40:20,960
Speaker 1: esque type of like getting his yardage at the end

900
00:40:20,960 --> 00:40:23,040
Speaker 1: of the game and being good enough is a runner

901
00:40:23,080 --> 00:40:24,000
Speaker 1: to get over?

902
00:40:24,120 --> 00:40:24,319
Speaker 3: Is it?

903
00:40:24,360 --> 00:40:26,600
Speaker 1: What was the line again? Was it like fourteen and

904
00:40:26,600 --> 00:40:26,879
Speaker 1: a half?

905
00:40:26,920 --> 00:40:27,080
Speaker 3: Yeah?

906
00:40:27,120 --> 00:40:28,399
Speaker 1: I think I think get over that.

907
00:40:28,600 --> 00:40:31,880
Speaker 3: Next up, Patrick Mahomes passing yards. Like I mentioned earlier,

908
00:40:31,920 --> 00:40:34,960
Speaker 3: the Raiders have only allowed one three hundred yard passer

909
00:40:35,040 --> 00:40:38,120
Speaker 3: this year. It's more about, you know, just them being

910
00:40:38,160 --> 00:40:41,600
Speaker 3: horrible than them playing good pass defense. So right now

911
00:40:41,719 --> 00:40:43,719
Speaker 3: I have him doing it though, So my line for

912
00:40:43,800 --> 00:40:45,480
Speaker 3: him is threeh two and a half.

913
00:40:45,719 --> 00:40:46,439
Speaker 5: I'll take the over.

914
00:40:46,560 --> 00:40:48,080
Speaker 4: I mean, we can look at the other side of

915
00:40:48,120 --> 00:40:50,400
Speaker 4: things and say that only two defenses have held Mahomes

916
00:40:50,440 --> 00:40:54,239
Speaker 4: under three hundred yards, So you know, it's what a

917
00:40:54,400 --> 00:40:58,080
Speaker 4: very movable force is meeting an unstoppable object. But uh, yeah,

918
00:40:58,160 --> 00:40:59,440
Speaker 4: I think Mahomes can get it done.

919
00:41:00,239 --> 00:41:01,680
Speaker 1: Here you go, you'll go over.

920
00:41:02,080 --> 00:41:02,480
Speaker 3: Yeah?

921
00:41:03,000 --> 00:41:06,200
Speaker 1: Torn, Yeah, I'm torn on this. Too, because the games

922
00:41:06,239 --> 00:41:10,040
Speaker 1: in which he hasn't gone over, like Arizona, like they're

923
00:41:10,080 --> 00:41:12,360
Speaker 1: a team. I feel like it's the same type of

924
00:41:12,360 --> 00:41:15,359
Speaker 1: thing where you can just run on Arizona. I'll take

925
00:41:15,360 --> 00:41:17,200
Speaker 1: the under. I think it's gonna be close. I think

926
00:41:17,200 --> 00:41:18,280
Speaker 1: that's a pretty good line.

927
00:41:18,400 --> 00:41:20,480
Speaker 2: I think that's a great line. If he goes over,

928
00:41:20,560 --> 00:41:22,719
Speaker 2: he can go over in a big way. But that's

929
00:41:22,719 --> 00:41:25,560
Speaker 2: probably smarter to go under. The more I think probably

930
00:41:25,600 --> 00:41:28,320
Speaker 2: goes under more often. It's like a mean median situation.

931
00:41:28,520 --> 00:41:30,799
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I totally is. It's gonna be interesting what

932
00:41:30,920 --> 00:41:33,239
Speaker 3: books fled out there. But I'm looking to hammer that under.

933
00:41:33,760 --> 00:41:35,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll go. I'm changing to under.

934
00:41:36,040 --> 00:41:39,080
Speaker 3: They've held some good quarterbacks to some pretty low numbers,

935
00:41:39,120 --> 00:41:42,440
Speaker 3: and you know, I think he could end up throwing

936
00:41:42,440 --> 00:41:44,200
Speaker 3: like two sixty but for like, you know, three or

937
00:41:44,239 --> 00:41:45,000
Speaker 3: four touchdowns.

938
00:41:45,440 --> 00:41:48,200
Speaker 2: The MVP thing the only other narrative here, Just not

939
00:41:48,239 --> 00:41:50,319
Speaker 2: to go too much into it, but Drew Brees has

940
00:41:50,400 --> 00:41:54,120
Speaker 2: kind of taken the lead now as MVP, where Mahomes

941
00:41:54,120 --> 00:41:56,600
Speaker 2: looks like a slam dunk there for a stretch. Those

942
00:41:56,600 --> 00:41:59,360
Speaker 2: two clearly, I'd be shocked if it's not one of

943
00:41:59,360 --> 00:42:01,560
Speaker 2: those two that wins and I know Andy Reid is

944
00:42:01,640 --> 00:42:02,840
Speaker 2: cognizant of that as well.

945
00:42:03,080 --> 00:42:05,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's definitely gonna throw for multiple touchdowns. I think

946
00:42:05,960 --> 00:42:08,319
Speaker 3: they're going to force it in the red zone. But yeah,

947
00:42:08,440 --> 00:42:11,200
Speaker 3: just you know, keeping the foot on the Gaskinserraders doesn't

948
00:42:11,239 --> 00:42:14,480
Speaker 3: really make sense. So we'll see. So next up, Lamar

949
00:42:14,600 --> 00:42:18,680
Speaker 3: Jackson rushing yards at Atlanta. Right now, I have it

950
00:42:18,719 --> 00:42:22,840
Speaker 3: at over under seventy three and a half under.

951
00:42:23,560 --> 00:42:24,799
Speaker 5: I really want to take this over.

952
00:42:25,360 --> 00:42:28,239
Speaker 4: I'll go under A question for you guys, though, can

953
00:42:28,280 --> 00:42:31,120
Speaker 4: he stack Lamar Jackson and Gus Edwards this week? I mean,

954
00:42:31,160 --> 00:42:33,440
Speaker 4: we saw Gus get twenty three rush attempts. I mean

955
00:42:33,480 --> 00:42:36,280
Speaker 4: it seems like both these guys are pretty much guaranteed

956
00:42:36,320 --> 00:42:38,040
Speaker 4: all these touches, and if you're not, I mean, none

957
00:42:38,080 --> 00:42:40,359
Speaker 4: of the receivers have anywhere close to the same touch

958
00:42:40,400 --> 00:42:41,320
Speaker 4: projection as Gus.

959
00:42:41,360 --> 00:42:42,440
Speaker 5: So we've seen.

960
00:42:42,320 --> 00:42:45,000
Speaker 4: Running backs co Atlanta all season. Just I mean, why

961
00:42:45,040 --> 00:42:45,839
Speaker 4: not put them both in them?

962
00:42:46,520 --> 00:42:51,239
Speaker 3: Yeah? They kind of limit each other's ceiling, right, I mean, like, yeah,

963
00:42:51,320 --> 00:42:54,319
Speaker 3: especially with Atlanta, we'd want like a pass catching back,

964
00:42:54,400 --> 00:42:58,240
Speaker 3: so maybe like Ty Montgomery or something like that. But yeah,

965
00:42:58,280 --> 00:43:01,600
Speaker 3: it's interesting, you know, us I think they both have

966
00:43:01,719 --> 00:43:04,240
Speaker 3: to combine for like three or four touchdowns for that TOURK.

967
00:43:04,680 --> 00:43:08,520
Speaker 1: Do we have any sort of update on Deon Jones,

968
00:43:08,520 --> 00:43:10,280
Speaker 1: the middle linebacker for the Falcons.

969
00:43:10,600 --> 00:43:12,160
Speaker 5: He's a big question.

970
00:43:12,480 --> 00:43:12,719
Speaker 3: Yeah.

971
00:43:12,760 --> 00:43:16,120
Speaker 4: They act they activated him off i R before the

972
00:43:16,160 --> 00:43:19,520
Speaker 4: Cowboys game. Like he's been practicing. They just apparently don't

973
00:43:19,560 --> 00:43:21,319
Speaker 4: think he's at one hundred percent yet.

974
00:43:21,400 --> 00:43:24,040
Speaker 5: But it's just that it's not clear update for this on.

975
00:43:24,040 --> 00:43:26,480
Speaker 2: Then, right, yeah, part of their future, right, like they

976
00:43:26,480 --> 00:43:28,560
Speaker 2: should sit him and just I mean they're done. I

977
00:43:28,560 --> 00:43:30,239
Speaker 2: mean I don't know. If I'm the Falcons, they have

978
00:43:30,280 --> 00:43:30,879
Speaker 2: incentive to.

979
00:43:30,840 --> 00:43:34,120
Speaker 1: Lose now for sure, I'm going to take the over.

980
00:43:34,560 --> 00:43:36,200
Speaker 2: How many rush attempts that's the question.

981
00:43:36,440 --> 00:43:41,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, right now I have a timly set at fourteen.

982
00:43:41,239 --> 00:43:43,760
Speaker 2: It looks like, yeah, twenty six and eleven, he didn't

983
00:43:43,760 --> 00:43:45,839
Speaker 2: really get he was. I mean it went a while

984
00:43:45,840 --> 00:43:48,840
Speaker 2: without him really running last game that was the concern,

985
00:43:48,880 --> 00:43:51,440
Speaker 2: and then obviously got going in the second half. But like,

986
00:43:51,520 --> 00:43:54,080
Speaker 2: this Flacco injury must be real serious. You in any

987
00:43:54,120 --> 00:43:54,719
Speaker 2: update there.

988
00:43:55,120 --> 00:43:57,520
Speaker 4: He still doesn't even return to practice yet. I mean

989
00:43:57,880 --> 00:43:59,799
Speaker 4: it seems like he hasn't even been particularly closed these

990
00:44:00,200 --> 00:44:03,640
Speaker 4: few weeks. And Harball's kind of been dodging the questions anyway,

991
00:44:03,640 --> 00:44:05,359
Speaker 4: So it wouldn't surprise me if they just stick with

992
00:44:05,400 --> 00:44:07,480
Speaker 4: Lamar even when Flacco is ready to go.

993
00:44:07,920 --> 00:44:09,879
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's kind of what I'm reading the tea leaves

994
00:44:09,880 --> 00:44:11,799
Speaker 2: and just watching how they used him. I mean, if

995
00:44:11,840 --> 00:44:14,359
Speaker 2: they're confident that Flak would be coming back, I feel

996
00:44:14,360 --> 00:44:16,880
Speaker 2: like they'd be letting Lamar run even more. Seems to

997
00:44:16,920 --> 00:44:18,680
Speaker 2: be that there last week, at least they seemed a

998
00:44:18,680 --> 00:44:19,680
Speaker 2: little cautious with him.

999
00:44:19,840 --> 00:44:23,240
Speaker 3: All right, So moving on to running back, Philip Lindsay

1000
00:44:23,360 --> 00:44:26,239
Speaker 3: rushing yards. Since we have a broadcast fan and now

1001
00:44:26,239 --> 00:44:30,160
Speaker 3: I know Ian's hand, I'm going to try to find

1002
00:44:30,160 --> 00:44:33,080
Speaker 3: the right number here, but I'm going to offer seventy

1003
00:44:33,160 --> 00:44:36,560
Speaker 3: six and a half rushing yards over easy.

1004
00:44:36,640 --> 00:44:39,160
Speaker 5: I got. I gotta stay over in my call, definitely over.

1005
00:44:39,760 --> 00:44:42,120
Speaker 1: I'm going to take the under just to try to

1006
00:44:42,160 --> 00:44:45,240
Speaker 1: fade these two in, knowing that you're inflating the line

1007
00:44:45,239 --> 00:44:47,000
Speaker 1: a little bit, but I think that's a pretty good line.

1008
00:44:47,200 --> 00:44:50,319
Speaker 3: Last week I floated four point eighty five for his

1009
00:44:50,400 --> 00:44:52,719
Speaker 3: yards per carry, and I thought I was going to

1010
00:44:52,800 --> 00:44:56,399
Speaker 3: get more action on the over, which you guys did,

1011
00:44:56,440 --> 00:44:59,120
Speaker 3: and then he ended up getting US seven point nine clubs,

1012
00:44:59,280 --> 00:45:02,400
Speaker 3: So I'm done trying to, you know, push regression out

1013
00:45:02,440 --> 00:45:04,200
Speaker 3: of this guy. So I'm all in on him.

1014
00:45:05,040 --> 00:45:06,880
Speaker 1: Just as a as a random side note, I have

1015
00:45:06,880 --> 00:45:10,560
Speaker 1: to say, like, I think it's it's awesome what is happening. Like,

1016
00:45:10,560 --> 00:45:12,279
Speaker 1: I think he's a cool story, and I think it's

1017
00:45:12,320 --> 00:45:17,279
Speaker 1: one of the cool instances of seeing talent quickly win

1018
00:45:17,440 --> 00:45:20,560
Speaker 1: out in the NFL. Like normally you'll have a situation

1019
00:45:20,640 --> 00:45:23,320
Speaker 1: where like a guy is highly drafted and a team

1020
00:45:23,560 --> 00:45:27,759
Speaker 1: just kind of like insist upon using him over a

1021
00:45:27,800 --> 00:45:31,040
Speaker 1: guy who is clearly more talented. But Lindsay was super

1022
00:45:31,080 --> 00:45:35,760
Speaker 1: productive in college, a great athlete, and it's it's awesome

1023
00:45:35,800 --> 00:45:38,640
Speaker 1: to see him get the opportunity to be the lead

1024
00:45:38,719 --> 00:45:42,200
Speaker 1: back even though he's not like the prototypical lead back size.

1025
00:45:42,360 --> 00:45:44,640
Speaker 1: So like a cool all around story with him.

1026
00:45:45,040 --> 00:45:47,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's living with his parents still, I mean, and

1027
00:45:47,320 --> 00:45:50,160
Speaker 2: he's just dominating in the NFL. I mean, that's about

1028
00:45:50,160 --> 00:45:53,920
Speaker 2: as cool as it gets. Shout out to him. I mean, obviously,

1029
00:45:53,960 --> 00:45:55,880
Speaker 2: the paycheck for him is not very high as an

1030
00:45:55,920 --> 00:45:59,560
Speaker 2: undrafted players, so hopefully he can stay healthy and get

1031
00:45:59,560 --> 00:46:00,840
Speaker 2: a big page check at some point.

1032
00:46:01,480 --> 00:46:05,520
Speaker 3: Next up, Carlos Hyde Total rushing yards this week at

1033
00:46:05,520 --> 00:46:09,239
Speaker 3: home against Indy. Right now, I have his projection at

1034
00:46:09,280 --> 00:46:10,320
Speaker 3: fifty nine and a half.

1035
00:46:11,440 --> 00:46:11,720
Speaker 1: Under.

1036
00:46:12,120 --> 00:46:13,399
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'll take the under there as well.

1037
00:46:13,400 --> 00:46:15,680
Speaker 4: I'm not sure if people are expecting him to kind

1038
00:46:15,719 --> 00:46:18,440
Speaker 4: of one for one replace Fournette, but I think this

1039
00:46:18,480 --> 00:46:19,920
Speaker 4: is going to look a lot like last year and

1040
00:46:19,960 --> 00:46:22,520
Speaker 4: Fotte was out there, Chris Ivory as that early down guy,

1041
00:46:22,560 --> 00:46:25,719
Speaker 4: and in those three games where Fournette missed last year,

1042
00:46:26,239 --> 00:46:28,719
Speaker 4: Ivey played thirty five snaps per game. Yeldon was at

1043
00:46:28,719 --> 00:46:31,279
Speaker 4: twenty nine, So I mean almost you know, a pretty

1044
00:46:31,360 --> 00:46:34,480
Speaker 4: much fifty to fifty split two bad committee. So I'll

1045
00:46:34,480 --> 00:46:35,120
Speaker 4: take the under.

1046
00:46:35,320 --> 00:46:38,480
Speaker 1: I think there's so much potential for him either to

1047
00:46:38,520 --> 00:46:42,040
Speaker 1: get game scripted out of this anyway, or just not

1048
00:46:42,239 --> 00:46:45,080
Speaker 1: to see the snaps here that we think he's going

1049
00:46:45,160 --> 00:46:47,719
Speaker 1: to see even if they are still in the game.

1050
00:46:47,840 --> 00:46:50,279
Speaker 1: So for me, it's a pretty easy under.

1051
00:46:50,520 --> 00:46:53,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm taking under. When Friedman says under that quickly,

1052
00:46:53,520 --> 00:46:58,040
Speaker 2: it's a lock. I think the classic mean median spot

1053
00:46:58,120 --> 00:46:59,840
Speaker 2: like he could have a huge game, but like you

1054
00:47:00,120 --> 00:47:02,759
Speaker 2: just said, there's so many scenarios where he gets games

1055
00:47:02,760 --> 00:47:05,880
Speaker 2: scripted out. Maybe they, you know, are really effective in

1056
00:47:05,920 --> 00:47:07,920
Speaker 2: passing the football and they want to use Yelden. I

1057
00:47:07,920 --> 00:47:11,920
Speaker 2: mean there's a lot of downside scenarios where he goes under,

1058
00:47:12,000 --> 00:47:14,920
Speaker 2: so I like the under for sure. There is obviously

1059
00:47:15,080 --> 00:47:17,239
Speaker 2: a situation where I think he plays great and goes

1060
00:47:17,239 --> 00:47:19,440
Speaker 2: for you know, one hundred plus yards. We'll probably have

1061
00:47:19,520 --> 00:47:22,520
Speaker 2: him in DFS, So we captured that meme and I

1062
00:47:22,560 --> 00:47:23,279
Speaker 2: love the under in.

1063
00:47:23,239 --> 00:47:25,600
Speaker 3: This one, all right, So next step going off the

1064
00:47:25,640 --> 00:47:28,560
Speaker 3: main slate real quick, I have to have an Austin

1065
00:47:28,600 --> 00:47:31,520
Speaker 3: Eckler prop this week. With Melvin Gordon on the shelf,

1066
00:47:31,760 --> 00:47:36,200
Speaker 3: his total rush receiving yards at Pittsburgh over under eighty

1067
00:47:36,239 --> 00:47:37,680
Speaker 3: seven and a half over.

1068
00:47:38,120 --> 00:47:39,719
Speaker 4: I'm just trying to figure out if he's going to

1069
00:47:39,760 --> 00:47:42,040
Speaker 4: be really like the only running back guy, or how

1070
00:47:42,120 --> 00:47:44,600
Speaker 4: much work Justin Jackson is gonna get. You know, we

1071
00:47:44,600 --> 00:47:46,560
Speaker 4: saw last week it was a little more split in

1072
00:47:46,600 --> 00:47:49,560
Speaker 4: a forty five ten blowout. But back in I believe

1073
00:47:49,560 --> 00:47:51,760
Speaker 4: it was Week seven, that London game that Gordon missed.

1074
00:47:51,760 --> 00:47:54,320
Speaker 4: I mean, Eckler played forty two or forty four snaps,

1075
00:47:55,320 --> 00:47:58,040
Speaker 4: so there's a real legit chance. I think he's just there,

1076
00:47:58,200 --> 00:48:01,000
Speaker 4: full on feature running back this week. Gordon's out, so

1077
00:48:01,239 --> 00:48:02,120
Speaker 4: give me the over.

1078
00:48:02,520 --> 00:48:05,759
Speaker 3: In true DFS logic form. He had his worst game

1079
00:48:05,800 --> 00:48:08,839
Speaker 3: in terms of efficiency week seven, of course exactly.

1080
00:48:09,920 --> 00:48:12,000
Speaker 2: I'm taking the over as well. This is a huge game,

1081
00:48:12,400 --> 00:48:16,280
Speaker 2: a massive game for implications, and I think the Chargers

1082
00:48:16,320 --> 00:48:18,880
Speaker 2: will try to leverage the better player, which I do

1083
00:48:18,960 --> 00:48:23,160
Speaker 2: believe is Eckler. Jackson's obviously, you know, got some talent,

1084
00:48:23,280 --> 00:48:25,720
Speaker 2: but at this point in his career, I think Eckler

1085
00:48:26,120 --> 00:48:27,760
Speaker 2: is a guy that they want to highlight.

1086
00:48:27,800 --> 00:48:30,640
Speaker 1: Here, Sean, what was the line one more time? Eighty

1087
00:48:30,680 --> 00:48:32,759
Speaker 1: seven and a half? Eighty seven and a half. I'll

1088
00:48:32,800 --> 00:48:34,879
Speaker 1: take the over. I think that's a good line. I mean,

1089
00:48:34,880 --> 00:48:37,160
Speaker 1: I think he could get there through either efficiency or

1090
00:48:37,280 --> 00:48:40,560
Speaker 1: just sheer volume, and based on the usage when he

1091
00:48:40,600 --> 00:48:43,480
Speaker 1: started in Week seven in London, I think we will

1092
00:48:43,520 --> 00:48:46,000
Speaker 1: probably see him be the guy. So yeah, I'll take

1093
00:48:46,040 --> 00:48:46,359
Speaker 1: the over.

1094
00:48:46,760 --> 00:48:49,279
Speaker 3: All right, So moving on to wide receiver. I feel

1095
00:48:49,280 --> 00:48:50,800
Speaker 3: like I would prop for this guy every week for

1096
00:48:50,880 --> 00:48:54,680
Speaker 3: various reasons. But Tyler Boyd receiving yards of Jeff Driscoll

1097
00:48:54,800 --> 00:48:57,120
Speaker 3: under center at home against Denver, so I don't know

1098
00:48:57,120 --> 00:48:59,440
Speaker 3: if he's going to match up against Chris Harris. I

1099
00:48:59,480 --> 00:49:01,880
Speaker 3: don't really know Aj Green's status quite yet, but I

1100
00:49:01,920 --> 00:49:04,640
Speaker 3: doubt they force him in there with their seasons rolling

1101
00:49:04,680 --> 00:49:06,880
Speaker 3: down on the dream. So right now I have his

1102
00:49:07,000 --> 00:49:09,880
Speaker 3: over under at sixty two and a half receiving arts

1103
00:49:10,160 --> 00:49:11,480
Speaker 3: under under.

1104
00:49:11,880 --> 00:49:14,520
Speaker 4: Interesting, you guys are yelling under. He's cleared that used

1105
00:49:14,640 --> 00:49:17,400
Speaker 4: these last three games. I think I'm with I'm with it, though,

1106
00:49:17,520 --> 00:49:20,560
Speaker 4: I'll take the under. Not too much word on AJ

1107
00:49:20,640 --> 00:49:23,960
Speaker 4: Green Marvin Lewis Keren would be returned to practice on Thursday,

1108
00:49:23,960 --> 00:49:25,799
Speaker 4: and of course he didn't, so not sure if that

1109
00:49:25,840 --> 00:49:28,000
Speaker 4: was maybe a setback or what this issue is. But yeah,

1110
00:49:28,040 --> 00:49:29,360
Speaker 4: I mean, if if Green's not out there, I just

1111
00:49:29,360 --> 00:49:32,279
Speaker 4: don't think Boyd's a type of receiver that can just

1112
00:49:32,520 --> 00:49:34,799
Speaker 4: you know, if he's getting the extra target volume, he's

1113
00:49:34,840 --> 00:49:37,279
Speaker 4: not necessarily going to turn into mass performance, is what

1114
00:49:37,320 --> 00:49:40,080
Speaker 4: we've kind of seen. So especially against a goat slot

1115
00:49:40,120 --> 00:49:42,280
Speaker 4: cornerback Chris Harris Junior, I'll take the under.

1116
00:49:42,800 --> 00:49:45,279
Speaker 2: Best corner in the league, Chris Harris Junior, who's shut

1117
00:49:45,320 --> 00:49:46,800
Speaker 2: down a lot of great players.

1118
00:49:46,840 --> 00:49:52,640
Speaker 3: I mean, come on, Under, it's next up Courtland Sutton.

1119
00:49:53,280 --> 00:50:00,040
Speaker 3: I keep projecting over, I keep projecting, I'm all and

1120
00:50:00,520 --> 00:50:04,399
Speaker 3: I can't totally patted Pete that. You know, the meaning

1121
00:50:04,480 --> 00:50:08,200
Speaker 3: is always higher than the media in situation. So I'm

1122
00:50:08,200 --> 00:50:10,800
Speaker 3: throwing out fifty one and a half.

1123
00:50:11,440 --> 00:50:16,200
Speaker 2: It's a clear under, but I'm saying, ope.

1124
00:50:15,600 --> 00:50:17,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm taking the under here. I mean, your base,

1125
00:50:17,640 --> 00:50:19,040
Speaker 4: it's just got He's got to hit some of these

1126
00:50:19,040 --> 00:50:22,680
Speaker 4: big plays. I don't think he's getting enough of intermediate volume.

1127
00:50:22,719 --> 00:50:23,919
Speaker 4: Otherwise I'll take the under.

1128
00:50:24,360 --> 00:50:26,879
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm still bullish on him long term, but I'm

1129
00:50:26,880 --> 00:50:27,839
Speaker 1: gonna take the under here.

1130
00:50:28,120 --> 00:50:31,520
Speaker 2: He has been agreed. Just this year he got unlucky.

1131
00:50:31,640 --> 00:50:33,840
Speaker 2: Now he's just playing. He played bad last game. It

1132
00:50:34,440 --> 00:50:37,080
Speaker 2: was not good. That's I think that's an easy under.

1133
00:50:37,120 --> 00:50:39,600
Speaker 2: But I'm I'm going over because I am a sucker

1134
00:50:39,680 --> 00:50:40,839
Speaker 2: and I love Courtland Sun.

1135
00:50:41,160 --> 00:50:44,640
Speaker 3: All Right. I mentioned earlier this is basically my cash

1136
00:50:44,680 --> 00:50:47,040
Speaker 3: game question of the week is who will score more

1137
00:50:47,120 --> 00:50:51,279
Speaker 3: DK points at Detroit? Brandon Cooks or Robert Woods.

1138
00:50:51,680 --> 00:50:53,800
Speaker 1: I'll take Woods. I think you're right there with.

1139
00:50:53,680 --> 00:50:56,160
Speaker 5: Me, Yes there, Woods definitely.

1140
00:50:56,200 --> 00:50:58,800
Speaker 4: In three games without Creeper Cup, both Cooks and Woods

1141
00:50:58,800 --> 00:51:01,839
Speaker 4: have twenty five targets that even, and then when we're

1142
00:51:01,840 --> 00:51:05,080
Speaker 4: projecting Darius Slay to beyond Cooks, I'll take my chances

1143
00:51:05,120 --> 00:51:08,200
Speaker 4: with Woods versus always burnable Nevin lost in the slot.

1144
00:51:08,400 --> 00:51:12,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's woods for me as well, but higher ceiling

1145
00:51:12,280 --> 00:51:15,279
Speaker 2: give me Cooks. I think what will be more popular too.

1146
00:51:15,320 --> 00:51:17,600
Speaker 2: So I think Cooks is the clear GPP play. But

1147
00:51:17,640 --> 00:51:19,880
Speaker 2: maybe that's kind of that trend people.

1148
00:51:19,719 --> 00:51:20,480
Speaker 3: Are aware of now.

1149
00:51:20,520 --> 00:51:23,040
Speaker 2: But yeah, the one, the one really big positive for

1150
00:51:23,120 --> 00:51:25,400
Speaker 2: Cooks is splits indoors are ridiculous.

1151
00:51:25,800 --> 00:51:29,040
Speaker 3: Moving on to tight end, we talked about him quite

1152
00:51:29,080 --> 00:51:32,719
Speaker 3: a bit so far. Matt Lacosse total receiving yards at

1153
00:51:32,719 --> 00:51:34,480
Speaker 3: home against the Bengals. I feel like I've had a

1154
00:51:34,480 --> 00:51:39,439
Speaker 3: Bronco every single position so far over under thirty five

1155
00:51:39,480 --> 00:51:41,080
Speaker 3: and a half receiving yards.

1156
00:51:41,200 --> 00:51:42,440
Speaker 2: I know you just moved that up.

1157
00:51:43,120 --> 00:51:46,319
Speaker 3: I moved it down a little bit really thinking about it.

1158
00:51:46,400 --> 00:51:50,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I feel that's wrong. But the Bengals just,

1159
00:51:50,600 --> 00:51:53,920
Speaker 1: I mean they hemorrhage yardage to the tight end position.

1160
00:51:54,320 --> 00:51:56,600
Speaker 1: Only the Bucks have allowed more yards to tight ends

1161
00:51:56,680 --> 00:51:59,320
Speaker 1: this year. Yeah, I'm gonna go the over.

1162
00:51:59,520 --> 00:52:02,680
Speaker 4: Over obviously, I think it's a good line. I'll take

1163
00:52:03,480 --> 00:52:07,719
Speaker 4: the under. I'm more infatuated with Lacosse's touchdown upside, I

1164
00:52:07,719 --> 00:52:09,920
Speaker 4: think than his receiving yardage upside.

1165
00:52:10,160 --> 00:52:14,080
Speaker 3: Greg Olsen receiving yards at Tampa Bay I think he's

1166
00:52:14,080 --> 00:52:16,239
Speaker 3: a pretty critical tight end this week, you know, being

1167
00:52:16,280 --> 00:52:19,759
Speaker 3: the same price as Ebron and Olsen. You know, he's

1168
00:52:19,840 --> 00:52:21,880
Speaker 3: total twenty yards in the past two games. But he

1169
00:52:21,920 --> 00:52:24,880
Speaker 3: gets this smash spot matchup at Tampa Bay. So I

1170
00:52:24,920 --> 00:52:28,040
Speaker 3: think his projection this week is critical. Right now, I

1171
00:52:28,080 --> 00:52:30,800
Speaker 3: have his receiving yards at over under forty one and

1172
00:52:30,880 --> 00:52:31,959
Speaker 3: a half over.

1173
00:52:32,760 --> 00:52:34,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'll go over because of matchup. I do wonder

1174
00:52:35,040 --> 00:52:37,279
Speaker 4: just I mean, it's Olsen, what is he now? He's

1175
00:52:37,320 --> 00:52:40,560
Speaker 4: thirty three years old, cleared sixty yards once this season.

1176
00:52:40,600 --> 00:52:43,200
Speaker 4: Maybe this is just kind of the new older age

1177
00:52:43,200 --> 00:52:45,160
Speaker 4: Greg Olsen's. It doesn't have the same upside with these

1178
00:52:45,200 --> 00:52:48,000
Speaker 4: actual weapons they have. But yeah, forty seas all well.

1179
00:52:48,520 --> 00:52:50,440
Speaker 2: Of all the players on the slated tight end, he

1180
00:52:50,520 --> 00:52:52,680
Speaker 2: seems like the most likely guy to get hurt during

1181
00:52:52,680 --> 00:52:54,600
Speaker 2: the game. And I hate to say something like that,

1182
00:52:54,680 --> 00:52:59,160
Speaker 2: but the guy who just dealt with so many injuries,

1183
00:53:00,360 --> 00:53:03,120
Speaker 2: anytime you have foot problems, it makes me nervous. The

1184
00:53:03,239 --> 00:53:06,080
Speaker 2: encouraging thing for Greg Olson, he's played the majority of

1185
00:53:06,080 --> 00:53:08,160
Speaker 2: the snaps fifty six to fifty eight versus the Lions,

1186
00:53:08,200 --> 00:53:11,680
Speaker 2: fifty eight to fifty nine versus Seahawks, so that's encouraging,

1187
00:53:11,719 --> 00:53:14,200
Speaker 2: so I'll take the over. But man, I hope he

1188
00:53:14,239 --> 00:53:16,759
Speaker 2: can stay healthy. He's going to be the goat commentator.

1189
00:53:17,560 --> 00:53:19,240
Speaker 2: Replace Jason Winn with Greg Olson.

1190
00:53:19,320 --> 00:53:25,320
Speaker 3: Please all right, So, last, but not least, Eric Ebron

1191
00:53:25,680 --> 00:53:29,239
Speaker 3: million maker ownership percentage I'm not really good to so

1192
00:53:29,320 --> 00:53:31,239
Speaker 3: you guys will probably hammer one play or the other.

1193
00:53:31,320 --> 00:53:35,080
Speaker 3: But I'm setting the line at thirty under.

1194
00:53:35,360 --> 00:53:36,200
Speaker 5: I think I'm go over.

1195
00:53:36,320 --> 00:53:39,560
Speaker 4: We saw Kittle at twenty eight point five percent last week,

1196
00:53:39,560 --> 00:53:41,839
Speaker 4: and I think Ebron's much ga burn.

1197
00:53:42,040 --> 00:53:43,759
Speaker 5: We'll set up a little bit better as Smash, so

1198
00:53:43,800 --> 00:53:44,920
Speaker 5: I'll I'll take the sled over.

1199
00:53:45,120 --> 00:53:49,080
Speaker 1: I will, Man, That's that's tough. I'll go. I'll go under,

1200
00:53:49,320 --> 00:53:51,920
Speaker 1: just because I think Lacasse will probably soak up a

1201
00:53:51,960 --> 00:53:55,239
Speaker 1: lot of the ownership. But yeah, that's I think Ebron is.

1202
00:53:55,520 --> 00:53:57,320
Speaker 1: I mean, I think he has of like that sweet

1203
00:53:57,400 --> 00:54:01,799
Speaker 1: spot of massive upside with like a salary that isn't

1204
00:54:01,840 --> 00:54:04,360
Speaker 1: super inflated, so I could see how he gets a

1205
00:54:04,400 --> 00:54:05,319
Speaker 1: lot of ownership too.

1206
00:54:05,520 --> 00:54:08,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think thirty it's gonna be pretty close.

1207
00:54:08,960 --> 00:54:10,319
Speaker 2: I have a lot of conviction on this one. I

1208
00:54:10,320 --> 00:54:12,680
Speaker 2: think it's it's definitely gonna be under. I do think

1209
00:54:12,760 --> 00:54:15,239
Speaker 2: Ibron will be popular, But like I mentioned in the

1210
00:54:15,239 --> 00:54:17,520
Speaker 2: beginning of the show, there's so many tight ends that

1211
00:54:17,600 --> 00:54:19,799
Speaker 2: are really in play. This week we talked about the

1212
00:54:19,840 --> 00:54:22,919
Speaker 2: costs Ebron. There's Kelsey at the top, Kittles still nice,

1213
00:54:22,960 --> 00:54:25,920
Speaker 2: Greg Olsen, Austin Hooper might get a couple of plays.

1214
00:54:25,920 --> 00:54:28,680
Speaker 2: If people are stacking that game. You still have camera Braid,

1215
00:54:28,760 --> 00:54:32,200
Speaker 2: David and Joku. Rob Gronkowski scored a touchdown last week.

1216
00:54:32,280 --> 00:54:34,719
Speaker 2: So it's just a position where there's a lot of options.

1217
00:54:34,800 --> 00:54:38,040
Speaker 2: And the main reason I have conviction almost all these

1218
00:54:38,160 --> 00:54:40,319
Speaker 2: like high end pros that are multi entering with one

1219
00:54:40,360 --> 00:54:43,400
Speaker 2: hundred and fifty lineups, they have gotten so into fading

1220
00:54:43,440 --> 00:54:45,680
Speaker 2: the truck, especially at this position that I think it's

1221
00:54:45,760 --> 00:54:46,920
Speaker 2: under Do you think with.

1222
00:54:47,440 --> 00:54:49,520
Speaker 3: You know, the potential at tight end, this is a

1223
00:54:49,520 --> 00:54:52,080
Speaker 3: good week to be contraing sort of, you know, for

1224
00:54:52,239 --> 00:54:54,200
Speaker 3: c in a tight end at flex I.

1225
00:54:54,120 --> 00:54:56,040
Speaker 2: Could I used to do that all the time. I

1226
00:54:56,120 --> 00:54:58,279
Speaker 2: think this is the first week where I really will

1227
00:54:58,320 --> 00:55:00,239
Speaker 2: consider it. I mean, think about how much you can

1228
00:55:00,360 --> 00:55:02,560
Speaker 2: do if you play you know. The problem is there's

1229
00:55:02,760 --> 00:55:05,920
Speaker 2: great running backs, but yeah, I mean fading like Carlos

1230
00:55:06,000 --> 00:55:07,719
Speaker 2: Hyde and playing two tight ends that could make a

1231
00:55:07,760 --> 00:55:08,279
Speaker 2: lot of sense.

1232
00:55:08,440 --> 00:55:11,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's what I think. That might elevate his percent

1233
00:55:11,960 --> 00:55:12,520
Speaker 3: just slightly.

1234
00:55:13,200 --> 00:55:15,680
Speaker 1: That's interesting. I think one thing that would also maybe

1235
00:55:15,920 --> 00:55:18,680
Speaker 1: drive it down relative to the context of what we've

1236
00:55:18,680 --> 00:55:20,799
Speaker 1: had the last couple of months, it's just that there

1237
00:55:20,800 --> 00:55:23,440
Speaker 1: are no more bye weeks, so they're just more options

1238
00:55:23,480 --> 00:55:25,520
Speaker 1: for players. So, like if we're kind of thinking of

1239
00:55:25,560 --> 00:55:30,040
Speaker 1: the ecosystem of the last few slates few Maine slates,

1240
00:55:30,040 --> 00:55:32,560
Speaker 1: there have just been a lot fewer tight ends, so

1241
00:55:33,160 --> 00:55:35,719
Speaker 1: ownership just times tends to be skewed a little bit more.

1242
00:55:35,920 --> 00:55:38,400
Speaker 2: One last thing I forgot to mention this, and it's

1243
00:55:38,440 --> 00:55:41,120
Speaker 2: probably the most important factor the millionaire maker this week

1244
00:55:41,160 --> 00:55:43,799
Speaker 2: is a one hundred dollars buy in, So a lot

1245
00:55:43,800 --> 00:55:46,160
Speaker 2: of sharps in there. And yeah, if you go through

1246
00:55:46,160 --> 00:55:47,879
Speaker 2: these lineups of the guys who are putting one hundred

1247
00:55:47,880 --> 00:55:51,760
Speaker 2: and fifty lineups consistently, they are fading the chuck very often.

1248
00:55:51,840 --> 00:55:53,480
Speaker 3: So that's we'll see.

1249
00:55:53,239 --> 00:55:54,759
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1250
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