WEBVTT - Fire twucks! Fire twucks! (sic)

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to Stuff you Should Know from how Stuff Works

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<v Speaker 1>dot Com. Hey, and welcome to the podcast. Beep beep.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm Josh Clark. There's Charles w Fire Chief Bryant, and

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<v Speaker 1>there's Jerry Fired Commissioner Rolling. I'm just a Class one firefighter.

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<v Speaker 1>But that's okay, because this is stuff you should know.

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<v Speaker 1>The fire Truck Edition, I should say, I think every

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<v Speaker 1>time we say fire truck, we should say fire twalk

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<v Speaker 1>okay for the whole episode, because that's about the level

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<v Speaker 1>of engagement that everyone can expect from us this episode,

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<v Speaker 1>because I love fire trucks, Like my inner three year

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<v Speaker 1>role is like, yes, let's do this and give me

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<v Speaker 1>like a Fisher Price drum to bang on while we're

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<v Speaker 1>talking about it could be one of those xylophones. And

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<v Speaker 1>if you hear me sighing repeatedly, just to give you context,

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<v Speaker 1>it's elect and day and I'm just in a bad movie.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't get political, Chuck, I'm not. I'm just oh hard.

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<v Speaker 1>What was it I said? I said, I'm already dreading

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<v Speaker 1>my hangover that I'm gonna have tomorrow and I haven't.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, I'm not going to drink for a

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<v Speaker 1>few days. Proceeding Tuesday. Oh you're saving your liver up. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>just because man, let's do let's talk about fire trucks.

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<v Speaker 1>They're happy. Let's have you been on our our fire truck. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>our company fire truck. It's the way back machine is

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<v Speaker 1>now he tricked out fire truck. Uh. Yes. And you

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<v Speaker 1>know what's funny to bring this full circle, we have

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<v Speaker 1>in one of our little quiet rooms. We have little

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<v Speaker 1>quiet rooms you can go like take a phone call sometimes. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>And we have one of our old school illustrations that

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<v Speaker 1>we used to blow those up and frame them a truck. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>the old house stuff works website, Dempsey and it looks great.

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<v Speaker 1>And so I was on the phone this morning. I

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<v Speaker 1>got up early to go vote Emily. Emily texted me, um, which,

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<v Speaker 1>by the way, is I mean, I got it out

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<v Speaker 1>of the way, but I waited in a longer line

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<v Speaker 1>than you know, that first rush. It's a longer line

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<v Speaker 1>than at like nine fifteen. Emily was like, yeah, so

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<v Speaker 1>I guess I kind of had to I go vote.

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<v Speaker 1>Emily calls me and says that my daughter is upset

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<v Speaker 1>because she thinks I went to vote, and she's upset

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<v Speaker 1>because I didn't take her sailing, so she's crying. Emily's like,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know what to do. Can you get on

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<v Speaker 1>FaceTime at least and show her that your work. I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, yeah, and not sailing, and they're like, let

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<v Speaker 1>me put on my captain's head just a message. I

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<v Speaker 1>thought about that. So I go in the quiet room,

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<v Speaker 1>get on FaceTime, and in the background of FaceTime, is

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<v Speaker 1>that fire twuck? And that immediately took over the conversation

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<v Speaker 1>because she was like fire truck and all kids love

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<v Speaker 1>fire trucks. Jerry's just talking about her her daughter loves

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<v Speaker 1>fire trucks, and so in a weird way, Uh, it

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<v Speaker 1>all just sort of came around. I want to get

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<v Speaker 1>in on this too. Mama loves fire trucks as well.

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<v Speaker 1>Most dogs hate fire trucks. Oh she loves them. Man,

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<v Speaker 1>My dogs howl at the moon. Oh yeah, doesn't do that. Really.

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<v Speaker 1>Sirens don't. Yeah. I does not big on thunder. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>my dogs don't mind thunder, but they hate their sirens.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's just hit there. Their hearing just right, I guess,

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<v Speaker 1>or maybe they're singing songs of love. Yeah, They're like

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't I've never asked, to be honest, but they

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<v Speaker 1>howl at sirens. So I want to settle something right

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<v Speaker 1>out of the gate that I never understood. You've heard

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<v Speaker 1>of a fire truck, you've heard of a fire engine.

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<v Speaker 1>You've probably heard somebody point to a fire truck and go,

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<v Speaker 1>there's a fire truck, and then somebody else points to

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<v Speaker 1>that same fire truck and says, there's a fire engine. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>it's interchange bowl. That's actually wrong. There is a difference

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<v Speaker 1>between a fire truck and a fire engine. And the

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<v Speaker 1>difference is yeah, but still in the practical world of

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<v Speaker 1>just people and kids, largely semantical, but yeah, there is

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<v Speaker 1>a difference. So people and kids who are wrong, Well,

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<v Speaker 1>let me let me say this. We will explain to

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<v Speaker 1>you the difference, and then it's up to you if

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<v Speaker 1>you want to go around to people and say that's

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<v Speaker 1>a fire truck not a fire engine. Actually, we should

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<v Speaker 1>advise you now not to do that. Don't do it,

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<v Speaker 1>but just hold that knowledge in your in your brain. Sure,

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<v Speaker 1>So what's the deaf uh just saying it to yourself

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<v Speaker 1>is if that's a big difference, Well, one actually holds

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<v Speaker 1>water and that the main diff Yeah, if you take

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<v Speaker 1>away the word fire right from fire truck and fire engine.

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<v Speaker 1>You've got an engine and a truck, and if you

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<v Speaker 1>understand the origin of fire engines, it will make total sense.

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<v Speaker 1>Fire engines were originally just a water pump used to

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<v Speaker 1>douse water on a fire. Wasn't on a truck, wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>on wheels. It was on a sled that people dragged

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<v Speaker 1>from one place to another in the seventeenth and eighteen

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<v Speaker 1>centuries in Europe. In America, it was an engine for

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<v Speaker 1>pumping water. Right, yes, and if today, if you are

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<v Speaker 1>appropriately using the word fire engine, what you're talking about

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<v Speaker 1>is a vehicle with four wheels. That is basically the

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<v Speaker 1>point wheels. It's to five wheels, four and a half.

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<v Speaker 1>You got a one in the center. Is to is

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<v Speaker 1>to move a giant amount of water and pump and

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<v Speaker 1>some hoses to a fire to douse water on the fire.

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<v Speaker 1>Same thing as it was in the sixteen eighties, it

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<v Speaker 1>is today. It's just updated to make it a lot

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<v Speaker 1>more easy to get it from point A to point B. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>that's a fire engine. What's a fire truck. Well, a

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<v Speaker 1>fire truck doesn't have that water tank full of water, right,

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<v Speaker 1>it has like ladders firefighters. Um. It can even be

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<v Speaker 1>hooked up to a hydrant. Yeah, but it's it doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>like if you live that out in the sticks and

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<v Speaker 1>you're your little farmhouses on fire, which is super sad.

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<v Speaker 1>But in other words, if you don't live near a

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<v Speaker 1>fire hydrant, you can still get that fire put out

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<v Speaker 1>if you have a fire engine nearby. Right, And usually

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<v Speaker 1>if there's like a structure fire something, the first truck

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<v Speaker 1>that shows up is going to be the fire engine.

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<v Speaker 1>They're they're gonna say, we need to get the water

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<v Speaker 1>and usually the foam out there and start spraying this

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<v Speaker 1>thing down. And a fire truck may not even show up,

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<v Speaker 1>depending on how the fire engine does controlling the fire

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<v Speaker 1>with the water or but they show because they're kind

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<v Speaker 1>of just poured any right, they are born. They're like,

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<v Speaker 1>we've cooked chili five times today. I'm so tired of chili. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>But the fire truck, if it does show up, it'll

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<v Speaker 1>show up with a bunch of firefighters who probably aren't

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<v Speaker 1>gonna mess with any hoses. They're gonna run in there

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<v Speaker 1>and rescue people. They're going to collapse holes into the

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<v Speaker 1>roof to get the water, and they're they're they're like

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<v Speaker 1>assisting the people with the hoses and we'll get much

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<v Speaker 1>more into depth of out this, but let's let's talk

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<v Speaker 1>about the history of fire engines a little bit. You're

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<v Speaker 1>ready for that, yeah, because, like you said, they were

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<v Speaker 1>pulled by people, uh, and that you know the downside

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<v Speaker 1>of that. There are many downsides of that, but one

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<v Speaker 1>of the biggest ones is once they get to the

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<v Speaker 1>actual place where they need it, they're tired, Yeah, pulling

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<v Speaker 1>like a giant metal tank of water with a pump

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<v Speaker 1>attached to it. So they're like, we're here, but we

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<v Speaker 1>can we're not very good uh for work right now

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<v Speaker 1>we're here, We're tired. Eventually they started to use horses,

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<v Speaker 1>but again, you know, these things were heavy, so even

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<v Speaker 1>horses wore out, you know, after you know, six or

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<v Speaker 1>seven blocks. These horses were like, now I'm tired. The

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<v Speaker 1>people would be like, are you tired, horse, and the

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<v Speaker 1>horse would just stomp once. Yeah, you know, so that

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<v Speaker 1>that helps all problems. But it was really the advent

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<v Speaker 1>of the you know, not the fire engine, but the

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<v Speaker 1>car motor. Well yeah, first it was the steam truck

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<v Speaker 1>exely um. But the early firefighters are like, those things

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<v Speaker 1>blow up and they're not very reliable, so it actually

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<v Speaker 1>didn't catch on very Well, it wasn't until like the

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<v Speaker 1>motor powered vehicle, like a diesel powered motor engine, a

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<v Speaker 1>combustion engine. That's what I'm looking for. Yeah, and I

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<v Speaker 1>think about the nineteen tens when fire engine started carrying

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<v Speaker 1>those or being moved around on those, that's when it

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<v Speaker 1>really started. And then for a little while until like

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<v Speaker 1>the twenties or thirties, steam and horse drawn firefighting equipment

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<v Speaker 1>to the fire trucks, whereas like the fire engine moving

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<v Speaker 1>this heavy, huge amount of water, that was a combustion

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<v Speaker 1>engine that did that. Yeah, and then uh, it says

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<v Speaker 1>here in nineteen eleven, those mac trucks started pumping out

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<v Speaker 1>engines and motorized vehicles. That really changed things. Uh. And then,

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<v Speaker 1>of course, if you listen to our Skyscraper's podcast the

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<v Speaker 1>nirties building building started getting taller and taller, and or

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<v Speaker 1>our Hotel fires podcasts, and then that became a problem.

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<v Speaker 1>They're like, we just figured out how to get here quickly,

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<v Speaker 1>and now you're building these tall buildings that catch on fire.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's when these ladder ladder technology started. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>they were kind of forced to ramp up their their

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<v Speaker 1>game in terms of getting people higher and higher up. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>So when you when you had like horses finally pulling stuff, um,

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<v Speaker 1>you still had tired firefighters who had to run to

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<v Speaker 1>the fire. So they put on sideboards, and then that

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<v Speaker 1>just made it harder for the horses. So finally somebody said,

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<v Speaker 1>let's just separate these two things. Let's come up with

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<v Speaker 1>fire trucks and fire engines, and the fire trucks are

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<v Speaker 1>going to move the firefighters to the fire so they

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<v Speaker 1>won't be tired. And then somebody said, well, now we

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<v Speaker 1>have skyscrapers, so now we need a different kind of truck,

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<v Speaker 1>the ladder truck. So technically, and from what I can tell,

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<v Speaker 1>you're going to find components of all these and I

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<v Speaker 1>think all of the different kinds of fire. Let's just

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<v Speaker 1>calm fire trucks, okay, Um, but there are also specialized chucks,

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<v Speaker 1>Chucks that specialize in delivering water, chuck that specialized in

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<v Speaker 1>delivering equipment, and and then chucks that specialize in ladders. Yes, okay, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>so that's kind of you can have it all in

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<v Speaker 1>one truck, or you can have it broken out into

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<v Speaker 1>three specialized trucks. Yeah, and in what kind of trucks

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<v Speaker 1>you have in your local municipality or county depends on

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of things, how well funded, how many people

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<v Speaker 1>live there, how rural it is, or how jam packed

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<v Speaker 1>it is. UM And it's really, I mean, it's a

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<v Speaker 1>science in itself in a city like New York to

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<v Speaker 1>make sure you're covered fully, you know, like every nook

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<v Speaker 1>and cranny of New York City is covered. What was

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<v Speaker 1>that UM early like computer civilization simulation called I think

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<v Speaker 1>it was called like civilization or something like that. That

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<v Speaker 1>was it a game? Yeah? I don't know, but there

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<v Speaker 1>was a thing where like fires would break out in

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<v Speaker 1>your town and if you didn't think about that, did you?

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<v Speaker 1>If you write so, you had to send out the

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<v Speaker 1>fire brigade, and if you just neglected it, then all

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<v Speaker 1>of a sudden, the area around it would fall into

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<v Speaker 1>ruin and then they'd be like discontent among the population.

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<v Speaker 1>And like, man, I was having fun building a shopping mall,

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<v Speaker 1>and now I have to deal with this burned out building. Right. UM.

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<v Speaker 1>I can't remember it was called I'm sure we're going

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<v Speaker 1>to hear it wasn't the SIMS, was it. It was?

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<v Speaker 1>It was much less sophisticated than the SIMS, but very

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<v Speaker 1>engrossing for sure. I've never played one of those. I

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<v Speaker 1>think that was actually the slogan the quote on the box.

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<v Speaker 1>Much less sophisticated than SIMS, but very engrossing. Nonetheless, Uh

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<v Speaker 1>so with World War two or post World War two

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<v Speaker 1>is when you got these buckets? Um, I don't think

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<v Speaker 1>we mentioned the bucket brigade. You know, you've heard that term.

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<v Speaker 1>That was pre fire engine and that's when they, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>had long lines of men filling up buckets of water

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<v Speaker 1>and handing them to the guy next to you. That's

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<v Speaker 1>how they fall fire. Pretty amazing that I saw. I

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<v Speaker 1>just want to say, real quick, I saw, I think

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<v Speaker 1>on Twitter there was a bookstore and I believe the

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<v Speaker 1>UK that moved locas down like down the road thanks

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<v Speaker 1>to basically a bucket brigade of volunteers who just handed

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<v Speaker 1>it book by book. Then they charged the guy a

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<v Speaker 1>book burning brigade. I think I thought you were a

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<v Speaker 1>volunteering So post World War two is when we got

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<v Speaker 1>what we know as cherry pickers. Um, if you've ever

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<v Speaker 1>seen these buckets on an extended arm, like maybe someone

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<v Speaker 1>repairing the phone line or the cable guy or whatever,

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<v Speaker 1>it's the same thing. It's um a much safer way

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<v Speaker 1>to rescue someone than throwing them over your shoulder at

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<v Speaker 1>the top of the ladder, which they'll still do. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>there's ladders that will extend you up and buddy, you're

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<v Speaker 1>hanging on to the top of the ladder. Man. But

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<v Speaker 1>if you're in a bucket, no, I can't because they

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<v Speaker 1>have ladders that go up you know, like fifteen stories.

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<v Speaker 1>There's a hundred that's a fifteen story building. Just standing

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<v Speaker 1>on the top of the ladder, I would literally lose

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<v Speaker 1>my mind. Yeah, you're not cut out to be that guy. No,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not. Um a bucket, I would just crawled down

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<v Speaker 1>in the bottom of and be like give me to

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<v Speaker 1>have and just scream that the whole time. But I

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<v Speaker 1>don't think I would lose my mind. I just you know,

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<v Speaker 1>lose my s well. But most of those buckets are

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<v Speaker 1>open sided anyway, so you still and they have railings

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<v Speaker 1>and stuff. But no, it doesn't matter. I've been in

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<v Speaker 1>one of those on a film set, like I've been

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<v Speaker 1>pretty high up in a cherry picker um, and it's yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean there, I don't have the big heights thing.

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<v Speaker 1>But I was still kind of like, now, if this

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<v Speaker 1>isn't something happened, that would be in bad shape. I

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<v Speaker 1>imagine if you actually were also afraid of heights, if

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<v Speaker 1>you had like the rational fear and then the irrational

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<v Speaker 1>fear combined. But yes, some of them do have this

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<v Speaker 1>with the ladder. They the ladder will go up and

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<v Speaker 1>then it's um usually on a turntable, which is basically

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<v Speaker 1>a gear that moves it left and right, but with

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<v Speaker 1>one of those cherry pickers. Usually it's an arm that

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<v Speaker 1>has like at least one or two joints in it,

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<v Speaker 1>so you can kind of move that thing all over

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<v Speaker 1>like one of those robot arms. Yeah, you got litt

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<v Speaker 1>joystick yeah, uh, and you're it's just like playing a

0:14:03.080 --> 0:14:05.400
<v Speaker 1>video game. It's like a rock on socker robot, but

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<v Speaker 1>with a fire But the nineteen sixties is where we

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<v Speaker 1>really sort of got to where we are now with

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<v Speaker 1>the quote unquote modern fire engine. Um, and since then

0:14:16.480 --> 0:14:21.720
<v Speaker 1>it's just gotten even better. Yeah, they're not all red. Yeah.

0:14:21.960 --> 0:14:24.080
<v Speaker 1>If you don't have a red fire engine, though, it's like,

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<v Speaker 1>what are you doing those white ones do you? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that's kind of cool. I've seen communists to me, or

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<v Speaker 1>the yellow ones? What is that? Uh? Yeah, I've seen

0:14:35.440 --> 0:14:38.240
<v Speaker 1>yellow ones. I think I have to say, Charles, when

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<v Speaker 1>I was researching this article, there is um no more

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<v Speaker 1>guarantee of local press coverage than a city buying a

0:14:47.440 --> 0:14:51.640
<v Speaker 1>new fire truck. I cannot tell you how many entries

0:14:51.720 --> 0:14:54.520
<v Speaker 1>there are for different towns around the country. Look what

0:14:54.560 --> 0:14:58.160
<v Speaker 1>we got the fire department debuts new fire truck. Yeah,

0:14:58.200 --> 0:15:01.080
<v Speaker 1>they're all so shiny all the rome. They're like, look

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<v Speaker 1>at how much it costs because it's tax payer owned. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's pretty cool. I think it's cute. I think we should.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I would love to do another follow up

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<v Speaker 1>at some point on like firehouses, because the whole thing.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, there's something about being a kid. You're just

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<v Speaker 1>enthralled by it because you walk by. You know, there's

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<v Speaker 1>one right there in oak Hurst behind where all the

0:15:22.840 --> 0:15:27.080
<v Speaker 1>restaurants are, so people with kids are constantly walking by

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<v Speaker 1>this thing, and the doors always open, and the firefighters

0:15:31.400 --> 0:15:34.400
<v Speaker 1>are always sitting around, like I mean, obviously unless they're

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<v Speaker 1>on an active fire. There there, they look like they're

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<v Speaker 1>just enjoying each other, and they always smile and white

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<v Speaker 1>the kids in and to take a look, and it

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<v Speaker 1>just it's such a cool job. Come on and have

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<v Speaker 1>some chili. I love it is there a cooler job

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<v Speaker 1>where you're like putting your life on the line, but

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<v Speaker 1>you're still you know, so just like I've been on

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<v Speaker 1>military basis, those those people aren't just hang military basis

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<v Speaker 1>can chili and you're back back. Yeah, I know, but

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<v Speaker 1>you don't want that. Let's just to keep you a

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<v Speaker 1>long sea rations something joyful about that chili? And uh,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. I think you make a good point.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you want to take a break? All right, let's

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<v Speaker 1>take a break and we'll talk about what's on these

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<v Speaker 1>amazing trucks? Okay, everybody, let's get down to it. What's

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<v Speaker 1>on fire? Let's start with the fire engine? This how

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<v Speaker 1>stuff works article? The way was it dry? It was trying. Um,

0:16:57.480 --> 0:17:02.040
<v Speaker 1>there was a lot of what's it called when you conflate?

0:17:02.080 --> 0:17:05.560
<v Speaker 1>I guess a lot of conflation where basically they make

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<v Speaker 1>it sound like it's all just on one truck. And

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<v Speaker 1>I guess it was because I think they made a

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<v Speaker 1>visit to a North Carolina fire department to look at

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<v Speaker 1>their truck and then base the entire article on that.

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<v Speaker 1>But the writer it was kind of funny, It's like,

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<v Speaker 1>and then there was this thing, and then there was

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<v Speaker 1>this thing and this thing was cool. And then they

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<v Speaker 1>had a thing here and they let me sit and

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<v Speaker 1>pull the run the sirens. Uh. But you know, again,

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<v Speaker 1>this is not they're all shapes and sizes. I think

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<v Speaker 1>this is sort of just a standard. When you see

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<v Speaker 1>a standard fire engine, you can count on a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of this stuff being on it. Is that okay? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>so uh, one thing that you're gonna you're gonna have

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<v Speaker 1>on an engine is a big tank of water. Is

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<v Speaker 1>an engine mostly right, But you also have the ability

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<v Speaker 1>and this is really neat if there's a lake nearby

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<v Speaker 1>or a swimming pool even or obviously fire hydrants are

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<v Speaker 1>are handy. Um, you can suck water from those things

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<v Speaker 1>and use it. But it's it doesn't just go straight

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<v Speaker 1>into a hose. Um. It runs through the truck and

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<v Speaker 1>then through the I mean there are hoses that attached

0:18:12.480 --> 0:18:14.520
<v Speaker 1>to this stuff or suck it out. But but you're

0:18:14.600 --> 0:18:18.240
<v Speaker 1>running it through the central engine. Um, so you can

0:18:18.280 --> 0:18:21.080
<v Speaker 1>regulate all that stuff. Right. And like an engine has

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<v Speaker 1>three components, Like every fire engine has at least three components.

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<v Speaker 1>A tank filled with water that it transports to the fire,

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<v Speaker 1>A pump that pressurizes that water from being pumped out

0:18:31.920 --> 0:18:35.040
<v Speaker 1>and then lines or hoses that that they'll pumped out

0:18:35.040 --> 0:18:37.879
<v Speaker 1>water shoots from onto the fire. So many hoses and

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of different hoses. This article spelled out every

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<v Speaker 1>single one of them. Yeah, And what I gathered to

0:18:44.520 --> 0:18:50.280
<v Speaker 1>was they want options, options, options, so they can have

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<v Speaker 1>speed speed speed, so hoses like they'll they'll have the big, huge,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, five footer, but then in compartments they'll have

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<v Speaker 1>footers and fifty footers because they just want to be

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<v Speaker 1>able to get water the fastest possible way. And that's

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<v Speaker 1>not all the times with the longest hose. Yeah, and

0:19:10.000 --> 0:19:13.280
<v Speaker 1>it's also not necessarily uh, the hose with the widest

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<v Speaker 1>diameter that's the best for the job, right right, Um,

0:19:16.440 --> 0:19:18.280
<v Speaker 1>it could be a smaller fire so you don't need

0:19:18.359 --> 0:19:20.520
<v Speaker 1>quite as much water. So there there is a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of um, a lot of split second decision, but decisions

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<v Speaker 1>in in hose selection basically, and from what I gather,

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<v Speaker 1>the fire captain is telling the crew like, we're probably

0:19:31.760 --> 0:19:33.880
<v Speaker 1>gonna need these hoses. You take this hose, you take

0:19:33.920 --> 0:19:37.679
<v Speaker 1>that hose, um ready break kind of thing on the

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<v Speaker 1>way to the fire. So it's not like the individual

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<v Speaker 1>firefighters are necessarily deciding for themselves, although I could be wrong.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. I'm totally speaking out of turn, but

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<v Speaker 1>just cobbling together separate facts. That's the impression I have. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I think you're right. I think I mean, obviously, when

0:19:55.200 --> 0:19:59.520
<v Speaker 1>they get there, there's an assessment period that's super fast

0:19:59.520 --> 0:20:01.200
<v Speaker 1>on the way A. I think you're right. I think

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<v Speaker 1>they have an idea because they've been radioed. We've got

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<v Speaker 1>a you know, an apartment building that's four stories in

0:20:06.840 --> 0:20:09.879
<v Speaker 1>this many units, and the fire is largely on the

0:20:09.920 --> 0:20:12.840
<v Speaker 1>top floors. So on the way, the captain who sits

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<v Speaker 1>in the passenger seat is radio ing too the firefighters

0:20:18.040 --> 0:20:20.960
<v Speaker 1>in what's called the jump seat area, which is that

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<v Speaker 1>little area behind which carries like what six people four

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<v Speaker 1>to four to six to eight people in a fire

0:20:27.720 --> 0:20:30.160
<v Speaker 1>engine from what I see. So they're radioing back and saying,

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<v Speaker 1>all right, when we hit the ground, we're gonna need

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<v Speaker 1>three one footers. And they're different ports on the you know,

0:20:36.840 --> 0:20:39.560
<v Speaker 1>sides or the back or the top of the fire engine.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not just like, well there's only one area where

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<v Speaker 1>we can get this water. Uh Again, they just want

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<v Speaker 1>all sorts of options so when they get there, they

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<v Speaker 1>can kind of hit the ground running, right, So they

0:20:50.600 --> 0:20:53.359
<v Speaker 1>literally hit the ground running when they get there. The

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<v Speaker 1>um driver the House of Works article made it sound

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<v Speaker 1>like the driver is invariably the pump up rader. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know that that's true or not, but there is

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<v Speaker 1>somebody who's designated the motor pump operator, the MPO, and

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<v Speaker 1>they look at you, you know, uh, they hop out

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<v Speaker 1>and they jump up onto the truck and they start

0:21:16.840 --> 0:21:19.639
<v Speaker 1>the pump. And the first thing that happens when that

0:21:19.720 --> 0:21:23.680
<v Speaker 1>pump starts um. At the very least, this housetuf Works

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<v Speaker 1>article had a truck that had an impeller water pump

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<v Speaker 1>on it, and it uses centrifugal force like it's rotors

0:21:30.240 --> 0:21:33.080
<v Speaker 1>like a turbine, basically spinning really fast, and when water

0:21:33.160 --> 0:21:36.159
<v Speaker 1>hits it, it slings it outside and in doing so,

0:21:36.240 --> 0:21:40.720
<v Speaker 1>the centrifugal force applied to it creates pressure, so it

0:21:40.800 --> 0:21:44.840
<v Speaker 1>pressurizes the water and they open the valve in the

0:21:44.840 --> 0:21:48.400
<v Speaker 1>tank because remember they've got maybe a thousand gallons of water, right,

0:21:50.560 --> 0:21:53.639
<v Speaker 1>it's a ton of water. Um. They and they turned

0:21:53.680 --> 0:21:56.080
<v Speaker 1>the pump on and they open the valve that dumps

0:21:56.160 --> 0:21:58.560
<v Speaker 1>the tank, the water from the tank onto the pump.

0:21:58.840 --> 0:22:02.320
<v Speaker 1>So that's being pressure and then the pump sends it

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<v Speaker 1>out to the hoses. And the reason that they do

0:22:04.520 --> 0:22:07.000
<v Speaker 1>this is they want to be able to start dousing

0:22:07.000 --> 0:22:10.159
<v Speaker 1>this flame, this fire with water immediately. But at the

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<v Speaker 1>same time they're also looking around for the fire hydrant

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<v Speaker 1>to connect to for like you said, a pond to drain,

0:22:16.000 --> 0:22:18.840
<v Speaker 1>to drain from a swimming pool nearby. They can drain

0:22:18.880 --> 0:22:21.800
<v Speaker 1>your swimming pool if they need to to turn what

0:22:21.840 --> 0:22:23.760
<v Speaker 1>are you gonna do get that out of my pool?

0:22:24.119 --> 0:22:27.000
<v Speaker 1>I don't like that neighbor that much, um. But they're

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<v Speaker 1>looking for other sources of water, and they can actually

0:22:29.960 --> 0:22:32.880
<v Speaker 1>set up something called a drop tank, which is basically

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<v Speaker 1>a collapsible portable pool above ground pool. Is that what

0:22:37.119 --> 0:22:40.159
<v Speaker 1>that is? Yes? Okay, that was a little confusing. It

0:22:40.200 --> 0:22:42.959
<v Speaker 1>was a little confusing, um, But yeah, it's just something

0:22:43.200 --> 0:22:46.480
<v Speaker 1>that just is semi rigid that you stand up and

0:22:46.800 --> 0:22:49.640
<v Speaker 1>other fire trucks can come in from other areas and

0:22:49.840 --> 0:22:52.440
<v Speaker 1>dump their tanks into the pool, and then you've got

0:22:52.480 --> 0:22:55.679
<v Speaker 1>the main fire truck drawing water out of it. So

0:22:55.720 --> 0:22:58.480
<v Speaker 1>it's like a temporary holding facility. But you're looking for

0:22:58.520 --> 0:23:00.960
<v Speaker 1>another source of water. Is if you have a thousand

0:23:00.960 --> 0:23:05.840
<v Speaker 1>gallon tank and you're using one of them, the hose

0:23:05.920 --> 0:23:08.919
<v Speaker 1>lines that's spewing out a thousand gallons a minute. You

0:23:08.920 --> 0:23:11.320
<v Speaker 1>have one minute of water. Do the math. You need

0:23:11.359 --> 0:23:14.679
<v Speaker 1>a lot more than that. So, um, that's just basically

0:23:14.760 --> 0:23:18.560
<v Speaker 1>to get things started while the other firefighters on the

0:23:18.600 --> 0:23:23.639
<v Speaker 1>engine hop off and start connecting to another source of water,

0:23:23.880 --> 0:23:26.880
<v Speaker 1>whether it's a fire hydrant or a pond or swimming pool. Yeah,

0:23:26.880 --> 0:23:28.479
<v Speaker 1>I want to I would like to hear from some

0:23:28.600 --> 0:23:34.800
<v Speaker 1>fire fighters about use of the onboard water versus drawn water.

0:23:35.960 --> 0:23:38.600
<v Speaker 1>But I have a feeling you're probably right, is that

0:23:38.600 --> 0:23:41.440
<v Speaker 1>that's just for the immediate Like while you're getting hooked

0:23:41.480 --> 0:23:43.679
<v Speaker 1>up to the hydrant, we're gonna go ahead and and

0:23:43.800 --> 0:23:46.560
<v Speaker 1>douse this thing. Yeah. Time is of the essence. Time

0:23:46.560 --> 0:23:49.119
<v Speaker 1>is of the essence, of course. Um, So all these lines,

0:23:49.240 --> 0:23:52.480
<v Speaker 1>it's really kind of beautiful in its simplicity. These lines

0:23:53.480 --> 0:23:58.160
<v Speaker 1>are color coded, so the hoses and the lines all

0:23:58.240 --> 0:24:01.719
<v Speaker 1>have color, so the purse and up there doesn't have

0:24:01.840 --> 0:24:04.720
<v Speaker 1>to like you know, again, with time being of the essence,

0:24:04.760 --> 0:24:07.760
<v Speaker 1>it's very simple. Which, uh, because they're in control up

0:24:07.800 --> 0:24:10.479
<v Speaker 1>there on that board of which hoses are being enacted

0:24:10.480 --> 0:24:14.600
<v Speaker 1>at any given time, and there are you know, their

0:24:14.680 --> 0:24:18.160
<v Speaker 1>relief valves built in, so if you shut off one

0:24:18.520 --> 0:24:22.679
<v Speaker 1>one hose, the other one doesn't go. Whoa yeah, all

0:24:22.680 --> 0:24:24.359
<v Speaker 1>of a sudden, it's all the waters going to that

0:24:24.400 --> 0:24:27.520
<v Speaker 1>one turns into like a cartoon fire hose, you know,

0:24:27.640 --> 0:24:30.600
<v Speaker 1>like eight people. It's like that. What was that? Uh?

0:24:30.720 --> 0:24:34.040
<v Speaker 1>Oh Roxanne the Steve Martin movie. Yeah, did that happened

0:24:34.040 --> 0:24:35.960
<v Speaker 1>to that? Yeah? That was sort of the updated version

0:24:36.000 --> 0:24:40.480
<v Speaker 1>of Cyrano diverge diversion diversia irac Oh. I'm familiar, no,

0:24:40.560 --> 0:24:43.639
<v Speaker 1>but I couldn't pronounce it right. It wasn't that all right.

0:24:44.040 --> 0:24:46.399
<v Speaker 1>But they were firefighters, But did they end up like

0:24:46.960 --> 0:24:50.800
<v Speaker 1>being There were some funny scenes where Steve Martin's like

0:24:50.800 --> 0:24:53.400
<v Speaker 1>on the telephone and in the background at a at

0:24:53.400 --> 0:24:57.480
<v Speaker 1>a practice fire like zane nous is going on in

0:24:57.520 --> 0:25:00.480
<v Speaker 1>the background. I don't remember that at all. A good movie.

0:25:01.560 --> 0:25:06.680
<v Speaker 1>Block that out the whole movie, at least that part. Uh,

0:25:06.760 --> 0:25:10.280
<v Speaker 1>all right, So that's that's what's going on with the water. Um.

0:25:10.320 --> 0:25:13.480
<v Speaker 1>There's also foam like you were talking about. Uh, these

0:25:13.560 --> 0:25:17.359
<v Speaker 1>days this this foam. Uh, fire retardants do a great

0:25:17.440 --> 0:25:20.600
<v Speaker 1>job of Sometimes they'll spray it on to make sure

0:25:20.640 --> 0:25:24.159
<v Speaker 1>something doesn't catch on fire. I don't get the picture

0:25:24.200 --> 0:25:26.520
<v Speaker 1>that it's always to put out a fire, is that right?

0:25:26.680 --> 0:25:30.080
<v Speaker 1>I think they use phone to make sure stuff doesn't reignite. Yeah,

0:25:30.200 --> 0:25:32.560
<v Speaker 1>depending on the type of foam, or depending on the

0:25:32.600 --> 0:25:34.840
<v Speaker 1>type of fire, you'll use a different type of foam,

0:25:35.560 --> 0:25:41.320
<v Speaker 1>like one prevents. Class A I think is to prevent reignition,

0:25:41.600 --> 0:25:44.439
<v Speaker 1>right of like maybe like a hot wood fire. Maybe

0:25:44.520 --> 0:25:47.160
<v Speaker 1>it says here Class B is more for car fires

0:25:48.600 --> 0:25:52.440
<v Speaker 1>or where if there's like gasoline that could you know, ignite. Yeah,

0:25:52.440 --> 0:25:55.280
<v Speaker 1>and I was looking into very I think actually foam

0:25:55.400 --> 0:25:58.840
<v Speaker 1>deserves its own podcast because apparently it's like fire for

0:25:59.280 --> 0:26:04.840
<v Speaker 1>super Tixic and like routinely destroys water supplies when it

0:26:04.840 --> 0:26:07.560
<v Speaker 1>gets in it. But I also saw that they make

0:26:07.640 --> 0:26:11.159
<v Speaker 1>some from proteins, which is, you know, it's natural, so

0:26:11.200 --> 0:26:12.920
<v Speaker 1>I'm sure it's fine. You can probably eat it after

0:26:13.000 --> 0:26:14.560
<v Speaker 1>a fire or something. What does that mean? Is it

0:26:14.640 --> 0:26:19.480
<v Speaker 1>like we turned a cow into foam? Probably that's what

0:26:19.600 --> 0:26:30.760
<v Speaker 1>glues from. Oh in jello? Yeah, jellouh? Wait? Did we

0:26:31.040 --> 0:26:33.680
<v Speaker 1>I think we did? No? That was lego? No, dude,

0:26:33.720 --> 0:26:37.919
<v Speaker 1>I think we did remember jello molds? Did we? Yes? Oh?

0:26:38.040 --> 0:26:39.960
<v Speaker 1>Good lord? Oh it was a good one. If I

0:26:40.000 --> 0:26:43.679
<v Speaker 1>remember correctly, I have no memory of that. I really

0:26:43.760 --> 0:26:46.399
<v Speaker 1>believe that we did an episode on Jello, all right,

0:26:46.560 --> 0:26:48.520
<v Speaker 1>and I think it was good. See this is why

0:26:48.560 --> 0:26:51.280
<v Speaker 1>when people ask us on stage, like what was your

0:26:51.320 --> 0:26:54.760
<v Speaker 1>favorite episode, it's like I say Disco every single time

0:26:54.960 --> 0:26:58.080
<v Speaker 1>because it's the only one I can remember routine ley.

0:26:58.359 --> 0:27:02.480
<v Speaker 1>But there's so many, literally hundreds of episodes that I

0:27:02.600 --> 0:27:05.720
<v Speaker 1>love that we've done, which makes me feel very proud

0:27:05.720 --> 0:27:07.640
<v Speaker 1>of our work. You know, the fact that we don't

0:27:07.640 --> 0:27:11.000
<v Speaker 1>look back on it and say, like, you know, just

0:27:11.119 --> 0:27:15.960
<v Speaker 1>jackhammers basically, um that I think it's great. I agree

0:27:16.080 --> 0:27:18.000
<v Speaker 1>not to pat ourselves on the back or break our

0:27:18.080 --> 0:27:20.320
<v Speaker 1>arms doing so. I'm just saying I'm kind of proud

0:27:20.320 --> 0:27:25.639
<v Speaker 1>of what we've done over the last decade. Agreed. Congratulations, congratulations?

0:27:25.880 --> 0:27:30.080
<v Speaker 1>Um So the hostes, Yeah, yeah, I forgot that. She

0:27:30.200 --> 0:27:34.440
<v Speaker 1>just gave you a little She's got a salad she's eating.

0:27:34.480 --> 0:27:39.080
<v Speaker 1>She's not even paying attention. Um So, hoses are called blinds,

0:27:39.119 --> 0:27:42.560
<v Speaker 1>I think on the job, um like on firefighters don't

0:27:42.560 --> 0:27:45.520
<v Speaker 1>calm hoses now they call them line. Yeah, yeah, you're

0:27:45.520 --> 0:27:47.600
<v Speaker 1>a chump if you call it a hos Hey, what

0:27:47.720 --> 0:27:50.000
<v Speaker 1>kind of hoses that you'll get laughed out of fire.

0:27:50.600 --> 0:27:54.920
<v Speaker 1>So cross lay hoses are hoses. Um well, I think

0:27:55.080 --> 0:27:57.640
<v Speaker 1>that you are laid on the ground, is that right?

0:27:59.520 --> 0:28:02.960
<v Speaker 1>I believe that they are coiled up, laying over one another,

0:28:03.119 --> 0:28:04.960
<v Speaker 1>and they're easy to get to on the side of

0:28:04.960 --> 0:28:06.760
<v Speaker 1>the truck. You can just grab the end of it

0:28:06.800 --> 0:28:10.520
<v Speaker 1>and run. And they may even be pre connected. There's

0:28:10.520 --> 0:28:16.040
<v Speaker 1>a type of hose that's it's pretty appropriately named pre preconnect.

0:28:16.560 --> 0:28:19.520
<v Speaker 1>It's already connected. So if you're the pump operator and

0:28:19.520 --> 0:28:22.120
<v Speaker 1>you see one of your guys running with the preconnect three,

0:28:22.800 --> 0:28:27.840
<v Speaker 1>you turn on Indigo Lever three, that's right, maybe yellow four,

0:28:28.040 --> 0:28:29.880
<v Speaker 1>whatever it is, and now all of a sudden they've

0:28:29.920 --> 0:28:32.920
<v Speaker 1>got water coming through it. Yeah, they have booster lines.

0:28:33.119 --> 0:28:35.199
<v Speaker 1>I mean again, we're not going to go through all

0:28:35.240 --> 0:28:38.520
<v Speaker 1>these different lines, but it's just very easy to say.

0:28:38.520 --> 0:28:41.800
<v Speaker 1>They all vary in diameter and link depending on what

0:28:41.880 --> 0:28:46.160
<v Speaker 1>your needs are. Depending on the diameter, um that that

0:28:46.200 --> 0:28:48.800
<v Speaker 1>will that will determine how much water can come through

0:28:48.840 --> 0:28:51.760
<v Speaker 1>at a time. And some of them are up to

0:28:51.800 --> 0:28:55.480
<v Speaker 1>a thousand gallons a minute. But again, that's your whole

0:28:55.480 --> 0:28:57.640
<v Speaker 1>tank in a minute. And I was like, gosh, that's

0:28:57.680 --> 0:29:01.200
<v Speaker 1>so fast. That's that must be like Olympic pool in

0:29:01.200 --> 0:29:04.480
<v Speaker 1>in an hour or something. No, it's eleven hours. So

0:29:04.760 --> 0:29:07.640
<v Speaker 1>if you're a firefighter and you are putting out a

0:29:07.680 --> 0:29:13.040
<v Speaker 1>fire next to an Olympic sized pool, you're like jack, yeah,

0:29:12.880 --> 0:29:17.120
<v Speaker 1>ye swimmers are bummed. Though, Yeah, it would take to

0:29:17.200 --> 0:29:19.960
<v Speaker 1>fill in those things up. Uh, well, it depends on

0:29:19.960 --> 0:29:24.120
<v Speaker 1>what kind of hose. I'm sorry line right. Uh. The

0:29:24.240 --> 0:29:28.040
<v Speaker 1>real fun part though, like if every child an adult alike,

0:29:28.720 --> 0:29:32.840
<v Speaker 1>um always wants to look at that deluge gun and

0:29:32.920 --> 0:29:35.120
<v Speaker 1>that is the thing that is not a hose, but

0:29:35.280 --> 0:29:37.120
<v Speaker 1>it is the thing that sits atop of the fire

0:29:37.160 --> 0:29:41.240
<v Speaker 1>engine that is like uh, sort of the equivalent of

0:29:41.280 --> 0:29:44.400
<v Speaker 1>the the Gatlin gun on top of the tank in warfare.

0:29:45.000 --> 0:29:47.920
<v Speaker 1>That you can just point that thing and water is

0:29:47.960 --> 0:29:52.160
<v Speaker 1>being sucked from the the hydrant straight through. So it's

0:29:52.160 --> 0:29:56.800
<v Speaker 1>regulated an into that deluge gun and just a massive,

0:29:56.920 --> 0:29:59.440
<v Speaker 1>massive amounts of water can go really really high and

0:29:59.480 --> 0:30:03.360
<v Speaker 1>far up. It's kind of that simple, it is, And

0:30:03.400 --> 0:30:06.160
<v Speaker 1>I imagine that's you know, I don't know if everyone

0:30:06.800 --> 0:30:08.840
<v Speaker 1>I am curious to hear from firefighters, like if you

0:30:08.840 --> 0:30:12.040
<v Speaker 1>have a permanent designation or if it's a tiered thing,

0:30:12.120 --> 0:30:14.640
<v Speaker 1>like you work your way up to deluge gun or

0:30:14.680 --> 0:30:19.240
<v Speaker 1>if that's the lowest job, because it is, because it's

0:30:19.360 --> 0:30:22.080
<v Speaker 1>because you're just there on the truck, and maybe the

0:30:22.080 --> 0:30:24.840
<v Speaker 1>more experienced firefighters are on that ladder going into the building,

0:30:25.280 --> 0:30:27.840
<v Speaker 1>or if they just take turns or drop straws, like

0:30:28.040 --> 0:30:29.880
<v Speaker 1>that's what. I don't know. I don't know either, but

0:30:29.960 --> 0:30:31.920
<v Speaker 1>I would guess that if you're manning the daily or

0:30:32.040 --> 0:30:36.440
<v Speaker 1>human ng the deluge gun, you are pretty experienced because

0:30:36.480 --> 0:30:39.080
<v Speaker 1>you've got basically the whole truck's about the water at

0:30:39.080 --> 0:30:42.040
<v Speaker 1>your fingertips or whatever water you know, all the water

0:30:42.080 --> 0:30:44.640
<v Speaker 1>in the world. Sure connected, But if you haven't connected

0:30:44.680 --> 0:30:46.640
<v Speaker 1>up yet, and they're like, start with the deluge gun,

0:30:47.000 --> 0:30:49.280
<v Speaker 1>which from what I understand, would be something that they

0:30:49.280 --> 0:30:51.400
<v Speaker 1>would do because use the day luge gun to kind

0:30:51.400 --> 0:30:54.760
<v Speaker 1>of dampen down the fire that initial you can get

0:30:54.760 --> 0:30:59.000
<v Speaker 1>closer to it with the lines, you know, and the personnel.

0:30:59.320 --> 0:31:01.480
<v Speaker 1>So yeah, it might be like the first thing you

0:31:01.520 --> 0:31:03.400
<v Speaker 1>hit a fire with the pen. So maybe the most

0:31:03.560 --> 0:31:06.800
<v Speaker 1>experienced firefighter because if you put the rookie back there,

0:31:06.880 --> 0:31:09.640
<v Speaker 1>they're like, you're that building is not even on fire

0:31:10.160 --> 0:31:13.840
<v Speaker 1>and you just in your pointing the wrong way Jackson,

0:31:15.200 --> 0:31:18.760
<v Speaker 1>because they go by last name. I think somebody's there's

0:31:18.760 --> 0:31:22.520
<v Speaker 1>got to be a firefire named Jackson, firefire Jackson the rookie.

0:31:23.720 --> 0:31:29.520
<v Speaker 1>Uh again. More hoses. They have hoses called curb jumpers

0:31:29.560 --> 0:31:34.520
<v Speaker 1>because they're on the curb. They have hoses that that

0:31:35.320 --> 0:31:38.640
<v Speaker 1>are just carried up like that you can put over

0:31:38.680 --> 0:31:41.440
<v Speaker 1>your shoulder. It's called a hose pack. It's like all

0:31:41.440 --> 0:31:44.440
<v Speaker 1>bundled together, so you might carry that on your shoulder

0:31:44.560 --> 0:31:47.400
<v Speaker 1>up the ladder in order to once you get in there,

0:31:47.520 --> 0:31:49.440
<v Speaker 1>you're like, I need another fifty ft hose. Man, I'm

0:31:49.480 --> 0:31:53.400
<v Speaker 1>inside and you've got one slung over your shoulder, bundled together,

0:31:53.560 --> 0:31:56.040
<v Speaker 1>ready to go. They also have hoses that will run

0:31:56.160 --> 0:31:59.320
<v Speaker 1>up ladders too, so there's a line that will run

0:31:59.360 --> 0:32:02.800
<v Speaker 1>alongside the are usually a five inch diameter line, which

0:32:02.840 --> 0:32:08.320
<v Speaker 1>I think five I d um. I think pumps two

0:32:08.640 --> 0:32:13.280
<v Speaker 1>and fifty gallons a minute. It's a significant um, that's all.

0:32:13.320 --> 0:32:15.200
<v Speaker 1>I mean. That's a lot of water. But they do

0:32:15.280 --> 0:32:18.200
<v Speaker 1>that so that, if you know, you can shoot water

0:32:18.320 --> 0:32:21.400
<v Speaker 1>down onto a fire, which can be helpful for like

0:32:21.440 --> 0:32:23.680
<v Speaker 1>a roof fire or something like that. And then they

0:32:23.720 --> 0:32:26.840
<v Speaker 1>also have a lot of different nozzles too. You know,

0:32:26.960 --> 0:32:30.600
<v Speaker 1>a different nozzle does different jobs, like, um, if you

0:32:30.680 --> 0:32:33.440
<v Speaker 1>have a piercing nozzle, I hadn't heard about one of these.

0:32:33.560 --> 0:32:37.120
<v Speaker 1>They sound extremely dangerous. It can shoot right through walls

0:32:37.160 --> 0:32:40.840
<v Speaker 1>and I'm guessing like drywall walls, probably not a brick wall,

0:32:40.880 --> 0:32:43.480
<v Speaker 1>but who knows. I'm sure it could shoot right through

0:32:43.480 --> 0:32:46.200
<v Speaker 1>a window. But if you have um a fire in

0:32:46.240 --> 0:32:48.719
<v Speaker 1>another room and you can't get to it, you just

0:32:48.880 --> 0:32:51.000
<v Speaker 1>use one of those piercing nozzles and it shoots right

0:32:51.000 --> 0:32:52.640
<v Speaker 1>through the wall. You know what I call that? If

0:32:52.640 --> 0:32:56.000
<v Speaker 1>I was a fire person a master blaster. To get

0:32:56.040 --> 0:32:58.680
<v Speaker 1>the master blaster up here, you gotta shoot through some

0:32:58.760 --> 0:33:03.280
<v Speaker 1>sheet rock. Wasn't that the guy with the small guy, yeah,

0:33:03.640 --> 0:33:09.200
<v Speaker 1>controlling the bigger guy. And beyond the Thunderdome, right, that

0:33:09.280 --> 0:33:11.280
<v Speaker 1>was the only one they appeared in, wasn't it. You

0:33:11.400 --> 0:33:15.120
<v Speaker 1>just nailed all of that. Thank you. I didn't spoiled

0:33:15.360 --> 0:33:18.560
<v Speaker 1>beyond the Yeah, except you have to say it like

0:33:18.640 --> 0:33:22.040
<v Speaker 1>Tina Turner. You have to say massa blasta. I can't

0:33:22.160 --> 0:33:25.120
<v Speaker 1>improve on what you just did. Uh. And then there's

0:33:25.200 --> 0:33:28.000
<v Speaker 1>the ladders. Of course, like you said, some of these

0:33:28.640 --> 0:33:32.400
<v Speaker 1>bad boys can go like a hundred and fifty feet

0:33:32.440 --> 0:33:37.520
<v Speaker 1>in the air via hydraulics, which is totally frightening. If

0:33:37.520 --> 0:33:39.640
<v Speaker 1>you're going that high up, the truck is going to

0:33:39.720 --> 0:33:44.960
<v Speaker 1>have what are called out riggers, and those are basically

0:33:45.040 --> 0:33:50.280
<v Speaker 1>just these huge, um heavy metal legs that come out

0:33:50.320 --> 0:33:52.920
<v Speaker 1>from the side of the truck and land on the ground.

0:33:53.000 --> 0:33:56.720
<v Speaker 1>To really stabilize that truck, they expanded center of gravity

0:33:56.800 --> 0:34:00.280
<v Speaker 1>so it doesn't tip. Yeah, but there's so it's so

0:34:00.360 --> 0:34:03.240
<v Speaker 1>much pressure and force. They actually have to put down

0:34:03.320 --> 0:34:05.960
<v Speaker 1>pads in between the out rigger and the ground so

0:34:06.000 --> 0:34:08.759
<v Speaker 1>that doesn't just go right through the ass crushed the

0:34:08.840 --> 0:34:12.799
<v Speaker 1>concrete sidewalk. Ye, it's pretty pretty cool. Um, this is

0:34:12.840 --> 0:34:15.319
<v Speaker 1>all cool. Yeah, it's so funny how the little kid

0:34:15.360 --> 0:34:18.600
<v Speaker 1>comes out when you start talking about this stuff. Just

0:34:18.640 --> 0:34:21.960
<v Speaker 1>like big heavy things. You want to take an ad break.

0:34:22.760 --> 0:34:25.080
<v Speaker 1>I need to settle down. Yeah, we need to put

0:34:25.160 --> 0:34:57.759
<v Speaker 1>our inner five year olds in time out. Okay, we're back.

0:34:58.000 --> 0:34:59.920
<v Speaker 1>Our inner five year olds are being very quiet and

0:35:00.040 --> 0:35:05.320
<v Speaker 1>and they're behaving. Yes, So we've got the fire engine done,

0:35:06.000 --> 0:35:09.840
<v Speaker 1>fire or ladder truck done basically right, that ladder is

0:35:09.840 --> 0:35:13.319
<v Speaker 1>telescoped up, you got the outriggers in place. It's a

0:35:13.400 --> 0:35:18.240
<v Speaker 1>four alarmed fire and things are going well. So um,

0:35:19.000 --> 0:35:22.840
<v Speaker 1>you're probably going to see other fire trucks show up. Yes,

0:35:23.080 --> 0:35:26.320
<v Speaker 1>this is the classic literal version of the fire truck,

0:35:26.719 --> 0:35:32.439
<v Speaker 1>which is basically a UM human and equipment transporter. That's

0:35:32.440 --> 0:35:34.640
<v Speaker 1>what it's for. Yeah. And you know if you look

0:35:34.680 --> 0:35:37.000
<v Speaker 1>at a fire truck and they've got all those compartments

0:35:37.080 --> 0:35:40.799
<v Speaker 1>running along the sides, they are all full of goodies, um,

0:35:42.280 --> 0:35:45.800
<v Speaker 1>all kinds of fun stuff. You're talking about the nozzles.

0:35:45.840 --> 0:35:48.200
<v Speaker 1>Of course, there's something called a barrel strainer. So if

0:35:48.239 --> 0:35:50.480
<v Speaker 1>you have to throw, uh, if you have to suck

0:35:50.520 --> 0:35:52.840
<v Speaker 1>water out of a lake, um, you don't want to

0:35:52.840 --> 0:35:55.600
<v Speaker 1>suck up fish through there. While that would be kind

0:35:55.600 --> 0:35:58.080
<v Speaker 1>of funny looking, it would be mean. It would be

0:35:58.120 --> 0:36:01.440
<v Speaker 1>super mean. Have you ever seen video they salmon ladder?

0:36:02.040 --> 0:36:05.120
<v Speaker 1>Now I've seen that. Yeah, that's pretty amazing. Fish ladders. Um,

0:36:05.160 --> 0:36:08.400
<v Speaker 1>but when they when they it's not seed of stock,

0:36:08.440 --> 0:36:10.680
<v Speaker 1>when they stock a lake. Oh yeah, sometimes they do

0:36:10.719 --> 0:36:13.120
<v Speaker 1>it from airplanes. And have you seen the one of

0:36:13.200 --> 0:36:16.520
<v Speaker 1>the close up of the fish just going like I

0:36:16.520 --> 0:36:20.000
<v Speaker 1>have not? It's it's something to see. It's either animal

0:36:20.040 --> 0:36:22.319
<v Speaker 1>abuse or it's a wild ride that the fish is like, Man,

0:36:22.440 --> 0:36:25.480
<v Speaker 1>that's cool. I think it's both. Yeah, and now I'm

0:36:25.480 --> 0:36:28.080
<v Speaker 1>in a big new home and then someone will catch

0:36:28.080 --> 0:36:31.080
<v Speaker 1>me by putting a hook through my mouth, right, and

0:36:31.120 --> 0:36:35.080
<v Speaker 1>they're like, you'll never really far guard here. Emily gets

0:36:35.080 --> 0:36:38.520
<v Speaker 1>so sad when she sees fisher fisher people. Yeah, yeah,

0:36:38.600 --> 0:36:40.439
<v Speaker 1>she just can't help. But think of the fish, even

0:36:40.480 --> 0:36:44.080
<v Speaker 1>catching release. Uh yeah, and I've said that. It's like,

0:36:44.160 --> 0:36:46.360
<v Speaker 1>what about catching and leash? She's like, what would you

0:36:46.440 --> 0:36:48.839
<v Speaker 1>want someone to hook you, pull you out of the water,

0:36:49.000 --> 0:36:50.759
<v Speaker 1>and then just remove the hook and throw you back in.

0:36:50.880 --> 0:36:54.239
<v Speaker 1>She makes a good point. She does what else? There's

0:36:54.239 --> 0:36:57.800
<v Speaker 1>all sorts of of tools to like bust through walls

0:36:57.880 --> 0:37:01.120
<v Speaker 1>and pull down ceilings. Yeah, well that's so okay. Let's

0:37:01.200 --> 0:37:03.200
<v Speaker 1>just let's put this out there. If you show up

0:37:03.200 --> 0:37:05.200
<v Speaker 1>on a fire engine, your job is to run lines.

0:37:05.200 --> 0:37:07.960
<v Speaker 1>You're running the pump. You're the captain being like do this,

0:37:08.120 --> 0:37:10.759
<v Speaker 1>do that? Somebody light my cigar, that kind of thing.

0:37:11.120 --> 0:37:13.840
<v Speaker 1>If you show up on a ladder truck, you're probably

0:37:13.960 --> 0:37:16.440
<v Speaker 1>working a ladder. Um. If you show up on a

0:37:16.560 --> 0:37:20.160
<v Speaker 1>fire truck, you are there to work the fire. You're

0:37:20.200 --> 0:37:23.400
<v Speaker 1>there to rescue people inside the fire. Same with the

0:37:23.480 --> 0:37:27.680
<v Speaker 1>ladder truck, probably too. Um, you're there to manage the fire.

0:37:27.760 --> 0:37:30.319
<v Speaker 1>You're tracking it to see if it's moving from one

0:37:30.360 --> 0:37:32.839
<v Speaker 1>place to another or if it's starting to die down.

0:37:33.280 --> 0:37:36.399
<v Speaker 1>You're in there pulling down sheet rock with a pike

0:37:36.520 --> 0:37:39.560
<v Speaker 1>pole yeah, um, if you're pulling it from the ceiling

0:37:39.800 --> 0:37:42.439
<v Speaker 1>or a Halligen tool. Yeah, if you're pulling the walls down,

0:37:43.000 --> 0:37:48.279
<v Speaker 1>that maybe Helligan actually probably sounds irish, right um, which,

0:37:48.360 --> 0:37:50.840
<v Speaker 1>by the way, I want to say, Rescue Me is

0:37:50.960 --> 0:37:54.879
<v Speaker 1>probably the greatest firefire related TV show of all time.

0:37:55.040 --> 0:37:59.400
<v Speaker 1>I've never seen it. The Dennis Leary Show. Oh it

0:37:59.520 --> 0:38:02.759
<v Speaker 1>was really good. Really, yeah, it was bonkers, but it

0:38:02.920 --> 0:38:05.920
<v Speaker 1>was very good, very and Dennis Leary does a great job.

0:38:06.280 --> 0:38:08.279
<v Speaker 1>I'm surprised you watched that. It just doesn't seem like

0:38:08.320 --> 0:38:09.840
<v Speaker 1>a Josh show. Yeah. I was into it for a

0:38:09.920 --> 0:38:13.960
<v Speaker 1>while that and then the shield too interesting. Yeah all right,

0:38:14.360 --> 0:38:18.920
<v Speaker 1>you know me that much better now, So, uh, it

0:38:19.040 --> 0:38:21.160
<v Speaker 1>probably is. The Halligan tool is my point. But you're

0:38:21.239 --> 0:38:23.239
<v Speaker 1>in there, if you're a firefighter who showed up on

0:38:23.280 --> 0:38:25.839
<v Speaker 1>a fire truck, you're messing with the fire to make

0:38:25.880 --> 0:38:30.600
<v Speaker 1>it easier for the line operators to get water onto

0:38:30.680 --> 0:38:35.920
<v Speaker 1>the fire where it's needed, right, Yes, exactly. Depending on

0:38:36.000 --> 0:38:40.000
<v Speaker 1>how advanced your truck or how much dough your municipality has.

0:38:40.080 --> 0:38:42.600
<v Speaker 1>You might have the jaws of life on your truck,

0:38:42.760 --> 0:38:45.399
<v Speaker 1>which I thought about. I even looked at that article

0:38:45.480 --> 0:38:48.960
<v Speaker 1>to see if that was worth doing one on. Well, uh,

0:38:49.280 --> 0:38:52.560
<v Speaker 1>it may just be thirty minutes of us talking about

0:38:52.640 --> 0:38:55.760
<v Speaker 1>how the fact that it is a super high powerful,

0:38:55.840 --> 0:38:59.800
<v Speaker 1>hydraulic powered uh can opener. Okay, so I think the

0:39:00.000 --> 0:39:03.719
<v Speaker 1>sounding very good. It might have been like jackhammers. Okay, no,

0:39:03.880 --> 0:39:06.399
<v Speaker 1>we'll steer clear that. Yeah, but the jaws of life

0:39:06.440 --> 0:39:10.600
<v Speaker 1>everyone knows is that super high powered hydraulic can opener

0:39:11.000 --> 0:39:14.520
<v Speaker 1>that can cut someone out of a car, which is great. Uh.

0:39:14.680 --> 0:39:17.520
<v Speaker 1>Exhaust fans never really thought about that, but um, there

0:39:17.560 --> 0:39:19.640
<v Speaker 1>are a couple of types of fans uh. And exhaust

0:39:19.680 --> 0:39:21.960
<v Speaker 1>fan is when you would put in an entry way

0:39:22.040 --> 0:39:25.280
<v Speaker 1>to suck out smoke. They also have positive pressure fans

0:39:25.400 --> 0:39:29.560
<v Speaker 1>to blow air through and out the other side. And

0:39:29.600 --> 0:39:31.520
<v Speaker 1>I imagine they can work in concert with one another

0:39:31.640 --> 0:39:34.320
<v Speaker 1>depending on their placement. Do you remember Greg who was

0:39:34.360 --> 0:39:37.879
<v Speaker 1>an illustrator for a while too. It's like illustrator day

0:39:38.120 --> 0:39:41.040
<v Speaker 1>that worked with us. Yeah, yeah, yeah, he had a

0:39:41.120 --> 0:39:43.600
<v Speaker 1>house fire and he said, like his house is generally fine,

0:39:44.160 --> 0:39:48.280
<v Speaker 1>but the insurance companies considering totaling his house just because

0:39:48.320 --> 0:39:54.000
<v Speaker 1>of the smoke damage. Yeah, like it just gets everywhere forever. Yeah,

0:39:54.120 --> 0:39:56.359
<v Speaker 1>and you can't do anything about it. It's actually really

0:39:56.440 --> 0:39:59.520
<v Speaker 1>not good for you, yeah, to to like live with

0:39:59.719 --> 0:40:02.799
<v Speaker 1>that as it's dissipating for years and years and years.

0:40:02.840 --> 0:40:05.239
<v Speaker 1>You know, I never really thought about that. You always think, like,

0:40:05.440 --> 0:40:08.520
<v Speaker 1>you know, the structures damaged and compromise, but right, the

0:40:08.600 --> 0:40:12.480
<v Speaker 1>structure can be intact and the smoke can can total

0:40:12.560 --> 0:40:15.120
<v Speaker 1>a house. I when I worked as a p A,

0:40:15.239 --> 0:40:17.880
<v Speaker 1>I did an errand one time for a very uh

0:40:18.120 --> 0:40:22.440
<v Speaker 1>not wealthy, but pretty rich producer to his condo in

0:40:22.520 --> 0:40:26.000
<v Speaker 1>Santa Monica, which had to have caused like a couple

0:40:26.000 --> 0:40:29.160
<v Speaker 1>of million bucks. And I walked in by myself. He

0:40:29.200 --> 0:40:32.400
<v Speaker 1>wasn't there gaming the keys, and it was the stinkiest.

0:40:32.800 --> 0:40:36.440
<v Speaker 1>He was a smoke cigarette smoker, and he had been

0:40:36.480 --> 0:40:39.080
<v Speaker 1>smoking in that place with the window shut for years.

0:40:39.840 --> 0:40:44.719
<v Speaker 1>And this two million dollar sweet ocean view condo was

0:40:44.840 --> 0:40:48.239
<v Speaker 1>the most discuss It smelled like a bar, like the

0:40:48.320 --> 0:40:51.719
<v Speaker 1>next morning was ruined, ruined, And I just can't imagine, like,

0:40:53.360 --> 0:40:55.719
<v Speaker 1>I mean, do you desensitive used used to smoke? It

0:40:55.760 --> 0:40:58.080
<v Speaker 1>doesn't matter was he not notice it or just not care? No,

0:40:58.200 --> 0:41:00.680
<v Speaker 1>he doesn't notice it. Interesting, he has not knows it.

0:41:00.800 --> 0:41:03.040
<v Speaker 1>Maybe if he comes back from a vacation or something,

0:41:03.120 --> 0:41:05.040
<v Speaker 1>you might be like, oh it smells a little like

0:41:05.640 --> 0:41:09.359
<v Speaker 1>vaguely smokey. I better get it going again or something. Man,

0:41:09.480 --> 0:41:12.279
<v Speaker 1>it was so stale and gross man like, yeah, like

0:41:12.440 --> 0:41:14.239
<v Speaker 1>for any if he wants to sell it, you would

0:41:14.280 --> 0:41:16.680
<v Speaker 1>have to sell it to a smoker, because any savvy

0:41:16.800 --> 0:41:20.520
<v Speaker 1>person who understands the health risks of that is like this,

0:41:20.760 --> 0:41:22.880
<v Speaker 1>this place is done. You would have to pull up

0:41:22.920 --> 0:41:26.560
<v Speaker 1>the floors, pull out the wall um, pull out the ceiling,

0:41:27.000 --> 0:41:32.120
<v Speaker 1>just strip it to its bones. Yeah, I'm scratch remember

0:41:32.160 --> 0:41:37.480
<v Speaker 1>thinking man and he had a balcony. It's like it's

0:41:37.520 --> 0:41:43.000
<v Speaker 1>so lazy. Uh. What else do they have? Bolt cutter, sledgehammers, chainsaws,

0:41:44.080 --> 0:41:45.920
<v Speaker 1>small ladders? You know you see him running with a

0:41:46.000 --> 0:41:48.000
<v Speaker 1>ladder over their shoulder like a ten or twelve footer.

0:41:48.400 --> 0:41:50.960
<v Speaker 1>They still have those little guys. Uh, And it's all

0:41:51.080 --> 0:41:53.799
<v Speaker 1>very useful. They basically have everything. A lot of them

0:41:53.840 --> 0:41:57.640
<v Speaker 1>have E M. S equipment or repelling rope. It's just

0:41:57.840 --> 0:42:01.280
<v Speaker 1>like everything you can think of. Yeah, basically to save lives.

0:42:01.440 --> 0:42:03.360
<v Speaker 1>That's why you'll see like a fire truck at the

0:42:03.400 --> 0:42:05.360
<v Speaker 1>scene of like a heart attack or something like that,

0:42:05.600 --> 0:42:10.439
<v Speaker 1>because the ambulance might actually not have everything they need

0:42:11.160 --> 0:42:14.200
<v Speaker 1>for a medical emergency, so they'll send the fire truck out,

0:42:14.280 --> 0:42:18.000
<v Speaker 1>which seems like a colossal waste of resources and money.

0:42:18.480 --> 0:42:20.759
<v Speaker 1>But I think I think something you said earlier might

0:42:20.840 --> 0:42:23.440
<v Speaker 1>explain it a little bit. They're a little bit bored.

0:42:23.800 --> 0:42:26.960
<v Speaker 1>Maybe they're like, oh, hard attack, let's go. I'm sure

0:42:27.000 --> 0:42:29.719
<v Speaker 1>it's nothing like that. Okay. What what my hope is

0:42:29.760 --> 0:42:31.960
<v Speaker 1>from the show that we'll hear from firefighters that are like,

0:42:33.160 --> 0:42:34.759
<v Speaker 1>you guys got kind of most of it right, and

0:42:34.800 --> 0:42:36.560
<v Speaker 1>thanks for shining a light on us. It's the best

0:42:36.680 --> 0:42:41.960
<v Speaker 1>we can hope for. Uh have you heard of did

0:42:42.000 --> 0:42:44.160
<v Speaker 1>you look up these tiller trucks? You know that, like

0:42:44.320 --> 0:42:48.719
<v Speaker 1>the coolest job is to drive the back of that thing. Yeah,

0:42:48.840 --> 0:42:55.200
<v Speaker 1>those are called tiller trucks and tiller drivers, uh drive them.

0:42:55.360 --> 0:42:59.319
<v Speaker 1>And it's a little cockpit, one person cockpit. I got

0:42:59.400 --> 0:43:02.719
<v Speaker 1>this from Hot Odd magazine. And you have to, of course,

0:43:02.760 --> 0:43:05.520
<v Speaker 1>take a certification test to make sure you can drive it.

0:43:06.560 --> 0:43:09.040
<v Speaker 1>And as everyone knows, or maybe you may not know this,

0:43:09.239 --> 0:43:11.839
<v Speaker 1>but the whole trick to those things. Is you gotta

0:43:11.840 --> 0:43:14.000
<v Speaker 1>steer the You gotta get into your head that you

0:43:14.080 --> 0:43:17.239
<v Speaker 1>steer opposite. So when you're making a right hand turn

0:43:17.400 --> 0:43:21.000
<v Speaker 1>up front, um, you've got to turn that wheel left.

0:43:21.440 --> 0:43:23.680
<v Speaker 1>I could not do this. They don't have that kind

0:43:23.719 --> 0:43:26.160
<v Speaker 1>of coordination. It would be tough. Huh yeah, as you

0:43:26.239 --> 0:43:28.080
<v Speaker 1>do it, yeah, I mean I think you get used

0:43:28.120 --> 0:43:30.680
<v Speaker 1>to it if that's your job, Like you wouldn't want

0:43:30.680 --> 0:43:33.120
<v Speaker 1>to be like right again. But when you're driving your car,

0:43:33.200 --> 0:43:35.719
<v Speaker 1>you just crashing this stuff all the time. Maybe it

0:43:36.719 --> 0:43:38.320
<v Speaker 1>like you gotta be able to flick that switch in

0:43:38.360 --> 0:43:41.879
<v Speaker 1>your head because you know, obviously if they're turning right,

0:43:42.200 --> 0:43:44.120
<v Speaker 1>you're turning that back wheel left. It makes it much

0:43:44.160 --> 0:43:47.680
<v Speaker 1>more maneuverable. And apparently they are as long as they

0:43:47.719 --> 0:43:51.759
<v Speaker 1>are if you've got an experience uh tiller person back there,

0:43:52.040 --> 0:43:54.960
<v Speaker 1>they are really super maneuverable on city street. Well that's

0:43:55.000 --> 0:43:57.880
<v Speaker 1>why they exist. Yeah, It's like it's way easier to

0:43:57.960 --> 0:44:00.279
<v Speaker 1>get a very long truck that's cut into two. They

0:44:00.320 --> 0:44:04.319
<v Speaker 1>can take tight corners rather than one long truck that's

0:44:04.480 --> 0:44:07.399
<v Speaker 1>one you know, one long length of truck. Yeah, that's

0:44:07.600 --> 0:44:09.800
<v Speaker 1>that's the whole reason they're there. I never understood that

0:44:09.880 --> 0:44:13.160
<v Speaker 1>until like yesterday. Yeah, and apparently they really work well,

0:44:13.560 --> 0:44:17.080
<v Speaker 1>um in in cities especially. Uh. And here's a couple

0:44:17.120 --> 0:44:19.480
<v Speaker 1>of little tricks that I never thought about. There's a

0:44:19.640 --> 0:44:22.560
<v Speaker 1>light on a rod at the on top of the

0:44:22.719 --> 0:44:26.360
<v Speaker 1>front cab and as that's your that's there for the

0:44:26.520 --> 0:44:31.120
<v Speaker 1>tiller driver tiller steerer to look at as their center point.

0:44:31.520 --> 0:44:34.080
<v Speaker 1>Like that's how they center their wheels. And if they

0:44:34.160 --> 0:44:36.680
<v Speaker 1>make a turn, they count because you know, you gotta

0:44:36.680 --> 0:44:39.520
<v Speaker 1>straighten back out afterward. They count like two and a

0:44:39.560 --> 0:44:42.120
<v Speaker 1>half rotations on the wheel for this turn, so two

0:44:42.160 --> 0:44:44.399
<v Speaker 1>and a half back in the other direction to get

0:44:44.480 --> 0:44:48.560
<v Speaker 1>straight again. I'm you're actually making me anxious right now.

0:44:48.719 --> 0:44:51.480
<v Speaker 1>I'm imagining myself having to do this like on the

0:44:51.520 --> 0:44:54.319
<v Speaker 1>way to a fire on a busy city street. Well,

0:44:54.320 --> 0:44:56.600
<v Speaker 1>they're usually apparently the first person of the ladder two,

0:44:56.640 --> 0:44:59.200
<v Speaker 1>So that is not the job for you, tiller driver

0:44:59.400 --> 0:45:03.440
<v Speaker 1>and lader guy. I quit. Yeah. Uh. And it's funny

0:45:03.560 --> 0:45:06.440
<v Speaker 1>they they interviewed and and took a like a coarse

0:45:06.520 --> 0:45:10.920
<v Speaker 1>test the hot rod author and they asked, so you're like, well,

0:45:10.960 --> 0:45:14.439
<v Speaker 1>what happens if if you turn it the wrong way?

0:45:14.800 --> 0:45:17.440
<v Speaker 1>And they're like, well, then you're on the curb and

0:45:17.440 --> 0:45:21.719
<v Speaker 1>you're knocking out cars and people. They're like, it's not good. Um,

0:45:22.880 --> 0:45:26.440
<v Speaker 1>pretty cool though, Yeah, I think they said the Here

0:45:26.600 --> 0:45:30.440
<v Speaker 1>here's another stat the operating angle for a ladder. Normal

0:45:30.520 --> 0:45:35.560
<v Speaker 1>operating angles about six seventy degrees. And the biggest hassle

0:45:35.640 --> 0:45:39.440
<v Speaker 1>of the ladders is uh wiring. Oh I could I

0:45:39.560 --> 0:45:41.759
<v Speaker 1>ail bet anything about that? You don't want to get

0:45:41.800 --> 0:45:47.520
<v Speaker 1>it tangled up? And no? No, good, very interesting. Don't

0:45:47.520 --> 0:45:50.160
<v Speaker 1>got anything else. I'm fired twalks. No, I want to

0:45:50.280 --> 0:45:53.480
<v Speaker 1>try out tiller truck. I wonder if they let civilians

0:45:53.560 --> 0:45:56.480
<v Speaker 1>like us just like get out in a big, close

0:45:56.560 --> 0:45:59.759
<v Speaker 1>down parking lot. It probably depends on, um, the level

0:45:59.800 --> 0:46:01.800
<v Speaker 1>of corruption of the mayor of the town that the

0:46:01.920 --> 0:46:04.520
<v Speaker 1>fire truck lives in. Well, they let the hot Rod

0:46:04.600 --> 0:46:07.359
<v Speaker 1>magazine guy do it. Oh he's a journal Yeah that's

0:46:07.400 --> 0:46:09.040
<v Speaker 1>what I'm saying. Like they cooked it up for like

0:46:09.120 --> 0:46:11.439
<v Speaker 1>we could probably cook up a reason. Right. Yeah, we'll

0:46:11.480 --> 0:46:14.680
<v Speaker 1>be like, uh, we're doing another episode on fire trucks

0:46:14.719 --> 0:46:16.920
<v Speaker 1>and we need to do this tillar tests. Yeah, and

0:46:17.040 --> 0:46:20.720
<v Speaker 1>they went, don't you mean fire twalks? Like you're speaking

0:46:20.760 --> 0:46:23.640
<v Speaker 1>our language, buddy. If you want to know more about

0:46:23.680 --> 0:46:28.200
<v Speaker 1>fire twalks, go down to your local fire station, maybe

0:46:28.600 --> 0:46:30.799
<v Speaker 1>ask them for some chili. They'll love for They'll love

0:46:30.840 --> 0:46:32.400
<v Speaker 1>you to ask them for a tour. I guarantee you

0:46:32.480 --> 0:46:34.320
<v Speaker 1>they'll if they're not busy, they'll say sure, come on

0:46:34.400 --> 0:46:38.200
<v Speaker 1>in and they'll they'll probably give you some chili without asking. Yeah. Um,

0:46:38.360 --> 0:46:41.719
<v Speaker 1>and since I said chili, it's time for a listener mail,

0:46:44.440 --> 0:46:47.600
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna call this one on war Masks that I was.

0:46:48.400 --> 0:46:51.040
<v Speaker 1>I thought that was pretty good episode. Hot off the presses. Yes,

0:46:51.080 --> 0:46:54.200
<v Speaker 1>it was a good episode, Chuck, Greetings from Dublin. Hey guys,

0:46:54.280 --> 0:46:57.200
<v Speaker 1>fairly recent listener. I moved to Ireland from the UK

0:46:57.280 --> 0:46:59.200
<v Speaker 1>about a year ago, and not knowing many people, you

0:46:59.239 --> 0:47:02.279
<v Speaker 1>guys have kept me uh provided a real comfort for me.

0:47:03.480 --> 0:47:05.200
<v Speaker 1>I just listened to the episode on war mass something

0:47:05.239 --> 0:47:07.120
<v Speaker 1>already kind of knew about. I used to work for

0:47:07.160 --> 0:47:10.080
<v Speaker 1>a publisher specializing in military history, and while I found

0:47:10.120 --> 0:47:12.640
<v Speaker 1>the glorification of war it's sickening, it was weird. It

0:47:12.760 --> 0:47:16.320
<v Speaker 1>was weirdly interesting to me, the effective injury mental and

0:47:16.440 --> 0:47:19.239
<v Speaker 1>physical on the on the soldiers. We published a book

0:47:19.239 --> 0:47:24.440
<v Speaker 1>called The Whistlers Room about so called uh deformed German soldiers,

0:47:24.960 --> 0:47:26.879
<v Speaker 1>and she puts that in quotes as if to say,

0:47:27.000 --> 0:47:31.040
<v Speaker 1>you know, it's not the proper nomenclature. Yeah, getting medical

0:47:31.080 --> 0:47:33.879
<v Speaker 1>treatment at a hospital before heading back out into the wider,

0:47:34.120 --> 0:47:36.960
<v Speaker 1>wider world. The men were called whistlers because due to

0:47:37.000 --> 0:47:39.080
<v Speaker 1>the injury, they could not breathe through their mouths or noses,

0:47:39.560 --> 0:47:42.800
<v Speaker 1>instead had holes cut in their throats, which created a

0:47:42.800 --> 0:47:45.160
<v Speaker 1>whistling noise. The book, in turn led me to a

0:47:45.239 --> 0:47:49.279
<v Speaker 1>film called The Officers Award. It's a French film h

0:47:49.400 --> 0:47:54.160
<v Speaker 1>les Chambre the Officia based on a novel based on

0:47:54.200 --> 0:47:57.080
<v Speaker 1>a true story and following a French military engineer who

0:47:57.080 --> 0:47:59.520
<v Speaker 1>suffered extreme injury to his space and throat on his

0:47:59.600 --> 0:48:01.719
<v Speaker 1>first day of action in World War One, and his

0:48:01.840 --> 0:48:08.600
<v Speaker 1>treatment involved facial trauma, uh and a war mask. The engenuity, ingenuity, compassion,

0:48:08.640 --> 0:48:11.600
<v Speaker 1>and perseverance showed by the doctors and nurses was apparently

0:48:11.719 --> 0:48:14.920
<v Speaker 1>very accurate as where the treatment shown. It is utterly compelling,

0:48:15.239 --> 0:48:19.440
<v Speaker 1>heartbreaking and I recommend it. That is from Hanna mc adams.

0:48:19.960 --> 0:48:23.799
<v Speaker 1>Keep up the cracking work. Love that. Uh So it's

0:48:23.800 --> 0:48:25.799
<v Speaker 1>called The Officer's Award French film. I'm gonna check it out,

0:48:25.880 --> 0:48:31.319
<v Speaker 1>yeah for sure, or the schenbre The Office their let's

0:48:31.320 --> 0:48:34.000
<v Speaker 1>try to Okay, I think you did it better, Chuck.

0:48:34.160 --> 0:48:38.359
<v Speaker 1>Good work, Thanks Hannah. Great name to Hannah McAdams, kind

0:48:38.360 --> 0:48:41.040
<v Speaker 1>of like rolls off the tongue like a punch. If

0:48:41.080 --> 0:48:42.600
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0:48:42.640 --> 0:48:45.840
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