1 00:00:01,120 --> 00:00:04,560 Speaker 1: Welcome to Stuff you Should Know from how Stuff Works 2 00:00:04,600 --> 00:00:14,360 Speaker 1: dot Com. Hey, and welcome to the podcast. Beep beep. 3 00:00:14,400 --> 00:00:18,799 Speaker 1: I'm Josh Clark. There's Charles w Fire Chief Bryant, and 4 00:00:18,840 --> 00:00:24,400 Speaker 1: there's Jerry Fired Commissioner Rolling. I'm just a Class one firefighter. 5 00:00:25,400 --> 00:00:27,960 Speaker 1: But that's okay, because this is stuff you should know. 6 00:00:28,800 --> 00:00:32,600 Speaker 1: The fire Truck Edition, I should say, I think every 7 00:00:32,640 --> 00:00:35,879 Speaker 1: time we say fire truck, we should say fire twalk 8 00:00:36,840 --> 00:00:40,360 Speaker 1: okay for the whole episode, because that's about the level 9 00:00:40,600 --> 00:00:44,320 Speaker 1: of engagement that everyone can expect from us this episode, 10 00:00:44,560 --> 00:00:48,440 Speaker 1: because I love fire trucks, Like my inner three year 11 00:00:48,520 --> 00:00:50,919 Speaker 1: role is like, yes, let's do this and give me 12 00:00:50,960 --> 00:00:53,080 Speaker 1: like a Fisher Price drum to bang on while we're 13 00:00:53,120 --> 00:00:56,600 Speaker 1: talking about it could be one of those xylophones. And 14 00:00:56,640 --> 00:00:59,480 Speaker 1: if you hear me sighing repeatedly, just to give you context, 15 00:00:59,520 --> 00:01:04,120 Speaker 1: it's elect and day and I'm just in a bad movie. 16 00:01:04,120 --> 00:01:08,960 Speaker 1: Don't get political, Chuck, I'm not. I'm just oh hard. 17 00:01:09,040 --> 00:01:11,000 Speaker 1: What was it I said? I said, I'm already dreading 18 00:01:11,000 --> 00:01:14,360 Speaker 1: my hangover that I'm gonna have tomorrow and I haven't. 19 00:01:14,560 --> 00:01:15,959 Speaker 1: I was like, I'm not going to drink for a 20 00:01:15,959 --> 00:01:20,160 Speaker 1: few days. Proceeding Tuesday. Oh you're saving your liver up. Yeah, 21 00:01:20,280 --> 00:01:23,679 Speaker 1: just because man, let's do let's talk about fire trucks. 22 00:01:23,680 --> 00:01:29,080 Speaker 1: They're happy. Let's have you been on our our fire truck. Yeah, 23 00:01:29,160 --> 00:01:31,520 Speaker 1: our company fire truck. It's the way back machine is 24 00:01:31,560 --> 00:01:37,200 Speaker 1: now he tricked out fire truck. Uh. Yes. And you 25 00:01:37,240 --> 00:01:41,240 Speaker 1: know what's funny to bring this full circle, we have 26 00:01:41,600 --> 00:01:43,520 Speaker 1: in one of our little quiet rooms. We have little 27 00:01:43,560 --> 00:01:49,120 Speaker 1: quiet rooms you can go like take a phone call sometimes. Um. 28 00:01:49,160 --> 00:01:52,360 Speaker 1: And we have one of our old school illustrations that 29 00:01:52,400 --> 00:01:55,160 Speaker 1: we used to blow those up and frame them a truck. Yeah, 30 00:01:55,280 --> 00:01:59,720 Speaker 1: the old house stuff works website, Dempsey and it looks great. 31 00:02:00,240 --> 00:02:03,080 Speaker 1: And so I was on the phone this morning. I 32 00:02:03,120 --> 00:02:08,800 Speaker 1: got up early to go vote Emily. Emily texted me, um, which, 33 00:02:08,840 --> 00:02:10,880 Speaker 1: by the way, is I mean, I got it out 34 00:02:10,880 --> 00:02:12,600 Speaker 1: of the way, but I waited in a longer line 35 00:02:12,639 --> 00:02:16,760 Speaker 1: than you know, that first rush. It's a longer line 36 00:02:16,760 --> 00:02:22,040 Speaker 1: than at like nine fifteen. Emily was like, yeah, so 37 00:02:22,080 --> 00:02:24,440 Speaker 1: I guess I kind of had to I go vote. 38 00:02:24,639 --> 00:02:27,840 Speaker 1: Emily calls me and says that my daughter is upset 39 00:02:27,960 --> 00:02:33,200 Speaker 1: because she thinks I went to vote, and she's upset 40 00:02:33,320 --> 00:02:37,920 Speaker 1: because I didn't take her sailing, so she's crying. Emily's like, 41 00:02:37,960 --> 00:02:39,200 Speaker 1: I don't know what to do. Can you get on 42 00:02:39,200 --> 00:02:40,880 Speaker 1: FaceTime at least and show her that your work. I 43 00:02:40,919 --> 00:02:43,960 Speaker 1: was like, yeah, and not sailing, and they're like, let 44 00:02:43,960 --> 00:02:46,040 Speaker 1: me put on my captain's head just a message. I 45 00:02:46,080 --> 00:02:48,400 Speaker 1: thought about that. So I go in the quiet room, 46 00:02:48,520 --> 00:02:51,960 Speaker 1: get on FaceTime, and in the background of FaceTime, is 47 00:02:52,000 --> 00:02:56,600 Speaker 1: that fire twuck? And that immediately took over the conversation 48 00:02:57,280 --> 00:03:00,800 Speaker 1: because she was like fire truck and all kids love 49 00:03:00,840 --> 00:03:03,280 Speaker 1: fire trucks. Jerry's just talking about her her daughter loves 50 00:03:03,280 --> 00:03:07,760 Speaker 1: fire trucks, and so in a weird way, Uh, it 51 00:03:07,840 --> 00:03:10,200 Speaker 1: all just sort of came around. I want to get 52 00:03:10,200 --> 00:03:12,600 Speaker 1: in on this too. Mama loves fire trucks as well. 53 00:03:13,240 --> 00:03:15,720 Speaker 1: Most dogs hate fire trucks. Oh she loves them. Man, 54 00:03:15,800 --> 00:03:20,200 Speaker 1: My dogs howl at the moon. Oh yeah, doesn't do that. Really. 55 00:03:20,240 --> 00:03:25,280 Speaker 1: Sirens don't. Yeah. I does not big on thunder. Yeah, 56 00:03:25,320 --> 00:03:29,679 Speaker 1: my dogs don't mind thunder, but they hate their sirens. 57 00:03:29,480 --> 00:03:32,120 Speaker 1: Let's just hit there. Their hearing just right, I guess, 58 00:03:32,200 --> 00:03:35,240 Speaker 1: or maybe they're singing songs of love. Yeah, They're like 59 00:03:35,320 --> 00:03:39,240 Speaker 1: I didn't I've never asked, to be honest, but they 60 00:03:39,240 --> 00:03:43,000 Speaker 1: howl at sirens. So I want to settle something right 61 00:03:43,000 --> 00:03:46,920 Speaker 1: out of the gate that I never understood. You've heard 62 00:03:46,920 --> 00:03:49,920 Speaker 1: of a fire truck, you've heard of a fire engine. 63 00:03:51,040 --> 00:03:54,280 Speaker 1: You've probably heard somebody point to a fire truck and go, 64 00:03:54,360 --> 00:03:56,360 Speaker 1: there's a fire truck, and then somebody else points to 65 00:03:56,400 --> 00:03:59,040 Speaker 1: that same fire truck and says, there's a fire engine. Yes, 66 00:03:59,240 --> 00:04:03,119 Speaker 1: it's interchange bowl. That's actually wrong. There is a difference 67 00:04:03,400 --> 00:04:06,720 Speaker 1: between a fire truck and a fire engine. And the 68 00:04:06,800 --> 00:04:12,360 Speaker 1: difference is yeah, but still in the practical world of 69 00:04:12,400 --> 00:04:16,400 Speaker 1: just people and kids, largely semantical, but yeah, there is 70 00:04:16,400 --> 00:04:19,440 Speaker 1: a difference. So people and kids who are wrong, Well, 71 00:04:19,520 --> 00:04:21,600 Speaker 1: let me let me say this. We will explain to 72 00:04:21,640 --> 00:04:23,440 Speaker 1: you the difference, and then it's up to you if 73 00:04:23,440 --> 00:04:25,839 Speaker 1: you want to go around to people and say that's 74 00:04:25,880 --> 00:04:28,760 Speaker 1: a fire truck not a fire engine. Actually, we should 75 00:04:28,800 --> 00:04:31,120 Speaker 1: advise you now not to do that. Don't do it, 76 00:04:31,160 --> 00:04:34,000 Speaker 1: but just hold that knowledge in your in your brain. Sure, 77 00:04:34,360 --> 00:04:38,279 Speaker 1: So what's the deaf uh just saying it to yourself 78 00:04:38,400 --> 00:04:40,840 Speaker 1: is if that's a big difference, Well, one actually holds 79 00:04:40,880 --> 00:04:43,000 Speaker 1: water and that the main diff Yeah, if you take 80 00:04:43,040 --> 00:04:47,320 Speaker 1: away the word fire right from fire truck and fire engine. 81 00:04:47,400 --> 00:04:50,200 Speaker 1: You've got an engine and a truck, and if you 82 00:04:50,360 --> 00:04:54,520 Speaker 1: understand the origin of fire engines, it will make total sense. 83 00:04:54,760 --> 00:04:58,760 Speaker 1: Fire engines were originally just a water pump used to 84 00:04:58,800 --> 00:05:01,360 Speaker 1: douse water on a fire. Wasn't on a truck, wasn't 85 00:05:01,360 --> 00:05:03,920 Speaker 1: on wheels. It was on a sled that people dragged 86 00:05:04,000 --> 00:05:07,440 Speaker 1: from one place to another in the seventeenth and eighteen 87 00:05:07,560 --> 00:05:10,800 Speaker 1: centuries in Europe. In America, it was an engine for 88 00:05:10,960 --> 00:05:14,960 Speaker 1: pumping water. Right, yes, and if today, if you are 89 00:05:15,040 --> 00:05:18,159 Speaker 1: appropriately using the word fire engine, what you're talking about 90 00:05:18,600 --> 00:05:22,159 Speaker 1: is a vehicle with four wheels. That is basically the 91 00:05:22,200 --> 00:05:26,479 Speaker 1: point wheels. It's to five wheels, four and a half. 92 00:05:26,520 --> 00:05:28,760 Speaker 1: You got a one in the center. Is to is 93 00:05:28,800 --> 00:05:32,279 Speaker 1: to move a giant amount of water and pump and 94 00:05:32,360 --> 00:05:35,640 Speaker 1: some hoses to a fire to douse water on the fire. 95 00:05:36,000 --> 00:05:38,400 Speaker 1: Same thing as it was in the sixteen eighties, it 96 00:05:38,520 --> 00:05:41,039 Speaker 1: is today. It's just updated to make it a lot 97 00:05:41,120 --> 00:05:44,720 Speaker 1: more easy to get it from point A to point B. Right, 98 00:05:45,000 --> 00:05:47,520 Speaker 1: that's a fire engine. What's a fire truck. Well, a 99 00:05:47,600 --> 00:05:52,000 Speaker 1: fire truck doesn't have that water tank full of water, right, 100 00:05:52,040 --> 00:05:56,320 Speaker 1: it has like ladders firefighters. Um. It can even be 101 00:05:56,360 --> 00:05:59,240 Speaker 1: hooked up to a hydrant. Yeah, but it's it doesn't 102 00:05:59,240 --> 00:06:01,440 Speaker 1: like if you live that out in the sticks and 103 00:06:01,520 --> 00:06:05,479 Speaker 1: you're your little farmhouses on fire, which is super sad. 104 00:06:05,920 --> 00:06:07,680 Speaker 1: But in other words, if you don't live near a 105 00:06:07,680 --> 00:06:10,159 Speaker 1: fire hydrant, you can still get that fire put out 106 00:06:10,200 --> 00:06:12,960 Speaker 1: if you have a fire engine nearby. Right, And usually 107 00:06:13,120 --> 00:06:16,039 Speaker 1: if there's like a structure fire something, the first truck 108 00:06:16,120 --> 00:06:18,400 Speaker 1: that shows up is going to be the fire engine. 109 00:06:18,760 --> 00:06:20,679 Speaker 1: They're they're gonna say, we need to get the water 110 00:06:20,880 --> 00:06:24,200 Speaker 1: and usually the foam out there and start spraying this 111 00:06:24,240 --> 00:06:28,320 Speaker 1: thing down. And a fire truck may not even show up, 112 00:06:28,360 --> 00:06:31,599 Speaker 1: depending on how the fire engine does controlling the fire 113 00:06:31,680 --> 00:06:34,840 Speaker 1: with the water or but they show because they're kind 114 00:06:34,880 --> 00:06:36,800 Speaker 1: of just poured any right, they are born. They're like, 115 00:06:36,839 --> 00:06:41,839 Speaker 1: we've cooked chili five times today. I'm so tired of chili. Um. 116 00:06:42,240 --> 00:06:44,800 Speaker 1: But the fire truck, if it does show up, it'll 117 00:06:44,800 --> 00:06:47,280 Speaker 1: show up with a bunch of firefighters who probably aren't 118 00:06:47,279 --> 00:06:49,560 Speaker 1: gonna mess with any hoses. They're gonna run in there 119 00:06:49,600 --> 00:06:53,640 Speaker 1: and rescue people. They're going to collapse holes into the 120 00:06:53,720 --> 00:06:55,880 Speaker 1: roof to get the water, and they're they're they're like 121 00:06:55,960 --> 00:06:59,240 Speaker 1: assisting the people with the hoses and we'll get much 122 00:06:59,240 --> 00:07:01,280 Speaker 1: more into depth of out this, but let's let's talk 123 00:07:01,279 --> 00:07:03,280 Speaker 1: about the history of fire engines a little bit. You're 124 00:07:03,279 --> 00:07:05,640 Speaker 1: ready for that, yeah, because, like you said, they were 125 00:07:05,680 --> 00:07:09,000 Speaker 1: pulled by people, uh, and that you know the downside 126 00:07:09,000 --> 00:07:10,920 Speaker 1: of that. There are many downsides of that, but one 127 00:07:10,920 --> 00:07:12,960 Speaker 1: of the biggest ones is once they get to the 128 00:07:13,000 --> 00:07:16,280 Speaker 1: actual place where they need it, they're tired, Yeah, pulling 129 00:07:16,320 --> 00:07:18,880 Speaker 1: like a giant metal tank of water with a pump 130 00:07:18,880 --> 00:07:20,760 Speaker 1: attached to it. So they're like, we're here, but we 131 00:07:20,880 --> 00:07:24,200 Speaker 1: can we're not very good uh for work right now 132 00:07:24,520 --> 00:07:31,200 Speaker 1: we're here, We're tired. Eventually they started to use horses, 133 00:07:32,120 --> 00:07:34,560 Speaker 1: but again, you know, these things were heavy, so even 134 00:07:34,680 --> 00:07:38,880 Speaker 1: horses wore out, you know, after you know, six or 135 00:07:38,920 --> 00:07:43,400 Speaker 1: seven blocks. These horses were like, now I'm tired. The 136 00:07:43,680 --> 00:07:45,360 Speaker 1: people would be like, are you tired, horse, and the 137 00:07:45,400 --> 00:07:48,559 Speaker 1: horse would just stomp once. Yeah, you know, so that 138 00:07:48,560 --> 00:07:51,560 Speaker 1: that helps all problems. But it was really the advent 139 00:07:51,680 --> 00:07:54,680 Speaker 1: of the you know, not the fire engine, but the 140 00:07:54,680 --> 00:07:59,720 Speaker 1: car motor. Well yeah, first it was the steam truck 141 00:08:00,000 --> 00:08:03,200 Speaker 1: exely um. But the early firefighters are like, those things 142 00:08:03,240 --> 00:08:06,320 Speaker 1: blow up and they're not very reliable, so it actually 143 00:08:06,360 --> 00:08:09,160 Speaker 1: didn't catch on very Well, it wasn't until like the 144 00:08:09,240 --> 00:08:12,880 Speaker 1: motor powered vehicle, like a diesel powered motor engine, a 145 00:08:12,960 --> 00:08:15,440 Speaker 1: combustion engine. That's what I'm looking for. Yeah, and I 146 00:08:15,520 --> 00:08:18,840 Speaker 1: think about the nineteen tens when fire engine started carrying 147 00:08:18,840 --> 00:08:21,960 Speaker 1: those or being moved around on those, that's when it 148 00:08:22,240 --> 00:08:25,240 Speaker 1: really started. And then for a little while until like 149 00:08:25,280 --> 00:08:29,640 Speaker 1: the twenties or thirties, steam and horse drawn firefighting equipment 150 00:08:30,320 --> 00:08:33,920 Speaker 1: to the fire trucks, whereas like the fire engine moving 151 00:08:33,960 --> 00:08:37,079 Speaker 1: this heavy, huge amount of water, that was a combustion 152 00:08:37,120 --> 00:08:39,680 Speaker 1: engine that did that. Yeah, and then uh, it says 153 00:08:39,720 --> 00:08:43,720 Speaker 1: here in nineteen eleven, those mac trucks started pumping out 154 00:08:44,360 --> 00:08:49,839 Speaker 1: engines and motorized vehicles. That really changed things. Uh. And then, 155 00:08:49,880 --> 00:08:52,880 Speaker 1: of course, if you listen to our Skyscraper's podcast the 156 00:08:53,000 --> 00:08:56,640 Speaker 1: nirties building building started getting taller and taller, and or 157 00:08:56,679 --> 00:09:00,319 Speaker 1: our Hotel fires podcasts, and then that became a problem. 158 00:09:00,360 --> 00:09:02,920 Speaker 1: They're like, we just figured out how to get here quickly, 159 00:09:03,640 --> 00:09:06,319 Speaker 1: and now you're building these tall buildings that catch on fire. 160 00:09:06,920 --> 00:09:11,480 Speaker 1: So that's when these ladder ladder technology started. You know, 161 00:09:11,520 --> 00:09:14,120 Speaker 1: they were kind of forced to ramp up their their 162 00:09:14,200 --> 00:09:16,920 Speaker 1: game in terms of getting people higher and higher up. Yeah. 163 00:09:17,120 --> 00:09:23,120 Speaker 1: So when you when you had like horses finally pulling stuff, um, 164 00:09:23,240 --> 00:09:26,280 Speaker 1: you still had tired firefighters who had to run to 165 00:09:26,360 --> 00:09:29,920 Speaker 1: the fire. So they put on sideboards, and then that 166 00:09:30,040 --> 00:09:32,120 Speaker 1: just made it harder for the horses. So finally somebody said, 167 00:09:32,200 --> 00:09:34,880 Speaker 1: let's just separate these two things. Let's come up with 168 00:09:34,960 --> 00:09:37,440 Speaker 1: fire trucks and fire engines, and the fire trucks are 169 00:09:37,440 --> 00:09:39,560 Speaker 1: going to move the firefighters to the fire so they 170 00:09:39,600 --> 00:09:41,680 Speaker 1: won't be tired. And then somebody said, well, now we 171 00:09:41,720 --> 00:09:44,120 Speaker 1: have skyscrapers, so now we need a different kind of truck, 172 00:09:44,360 --> 00:09:48,440 Speaker 1: the ladder truck. So technically, and from what I can tell, 173 00:09:48,520 --> 00:09:52,320 Speaker 1: you're going to find components of all these and I 174 00:09:52,360 --> 00:09:55,720 Speaker 1: think all of the different kinds of fire. Let's just 175 00:09:55,760 --> 00:10:01,760 Speaker 1: calm fire trucks, okay, Um, but there are also specialized chucks, 176 00:10:01,840 --> 00:10:05,559 Speaker 1: Chucks that specialize in delivering water, chuck that specialized in 177 00:10:05,600 --> 00:10:11,760 Speaker 1: delivering equipment, and and then chucks that specialize in ladders. Yes, okay, yes, 178 00:10:12,120 --> 00:10:14,440 Speaker 1: so that's kind of you can have it all in 179 00:10:14,480 --> 00:10:16,240 Speaker 1: one truck, or you can have it broken out into 180 00:10:16,400 --> 00:10:19,800 Speaker 1: three specialized trucks. Yeah, and in what kind of trucks 181 00:10:19,880 --> 00:10:25,040 Speaker 1: you have in your local municipality or county depends on 182 00:10:25,440 --> 00:10:28,160 Speaker 1: a lot of things, how well funded, how many people 183 00:10:28,320 --> 00:10:32,000 Speaker 1: live there, how rural it is, or how jam packed 184 00:10:32,040 --> 00:10:34,480 Speaker 1: it is. UM And it's really, I mean, it's a 185 00:10:34,520 --> 00:10:37,679 Speaker 1: science in itself in a city like New York to 186 00:10:38,000 --> 00:10:41,960 Speaker 1: make sure you're covered fully, you know, like every nook 187 00:10:41,960 --> 00:10:44,560 Speaker 1: and cranny of New York City is covered. What was 188 00:10:44,640 --> 00:10:49,959 Speaker 1: that UM early like computer civilization simulation called I think 189 00:10:49,960 --> 00:10:52,400 Speaker 1: it was called like civilization or something like that. That 190 00:10:52,520 --> 00:10:54,679 Speaker 1: was it a game? Yeah? I don't know, but there 191 00:10:54,760 --> 00:10:56,960 Speaker 1: was a thing where like fires would break out in 192 00:10:57,000 --> 00:10:59,040 Speaker 1: your town and if you didn't think about that, did you? 193 00:10:59,160 --> 00:11:01,000 Speaker 1: If you write so, you had to send out the 194 00:11:01,000 --> 00:11:04,240 Speaker 1: fire brigade, and if you just neglected it, then all 195 00:11:04,240 --> 00:11:06,439 Speaker 1: of a sudden, the area around it would fall into 196 00:11:06,520 --> 00:11:08,960 Speaker 1: ruin and then they'd be like discontent among the population. 197 00:11:08,960 --> 00:11:11,440 Speaker 1: And like, man, I was having fun building a shopping mall, 198 00:11:11,679 --> 00:11:15,040 Speaker 1: and now I have to deal with this burned out building. Right. UM. 199 00:11:15,160 --> 00:11:17,000 Speaker 1: I can't remember it was called I'm sure we're going 200 00:11:17,040 --> 00:11:19,559 Speaker 1: to hear it wasn't the SIMS, was it. It was? 201 00:11:19,920 --> 00:11:23,280 Speaker 1: It was much less sophisticated than the SIMS, but very 202 00:11:23,320 --> 00:11:25,680 Speaker 1: engrossing for sure. I've never played one of those. I 203 00:11:25,720 --> 00:11:28,560 Speaker 1: think that was actually the slogan the quote on the box. 204 00:11:28,960 --> 00:11:33,000 Speaker 1: Much less sophisticated than SIMS, but very engrossing. Nonetheless, Uh 205 00:11:33,120 --> 00:11:35,720 Speaker 1: so with World War two or post World War two 206 00:11:35,800 --> 00:11:39,120 Speaker 1: is when you got these buckets? Um, I don't think 207 00:11:39,160 --> 00:11:42,120 Speaker 1: we mentioned the bucket brigade. You know, you've heard that term. 208 00:11:42,160 --> 00:11:45,320 Speaker 1: That was pre fire engine and that's when they, you know, 209 00:11:45,400 --> 00:11:48,880 Speaker 1: had long lines of men filling up buckets of water 210 00:11:48,960 --> 00:11:50,920 Speaker 1: and handing them to the guy next to you. That's 211 00:11:50,920 --> 00:11:53,240 Speaker 1: how they fall fire. Pretty amazing that I saw. I 212 00:11:53,320 --> 00:11:54,719 Speaker 1: just want to say, real quick, I saw, I think 213 00:11:54,720 --> 00:11:57,559 Speaker 1: on Twitter there was a bookstore and I believe the 214 00:11:57,679 --> 00:12:02,480 Speaker 1: UK that moved locas down like down the road thanks 215 00:12:02,520 --> 00:12:05,280 Speaker 1: to basically a bucket brigade of volunteers who just handed 216 00:12:05,280 --> 00:12:11,640 Speaker 1: it book by book. Then they charged the guy a 217 00:12:11,640 --> 00:12:13,520 Speaker 1: book burning brigade. I think I thought you were a 218 00:12:13,559 --> 00:12:17,000 Speaker 1: volunteering So post World War two is when we got 219 00:12:17,040 --> 00:12:19,800 Speaker 1: what we know as cherry pickers. Um, if you've ever 220 00:12:19,800 --> 00:12:23,920 Speaker 1: seen these buckets on an extended arm, like maybe someone 221 00:12:24,040 --> 00:12:26,360 Speaker 1: repairing the phone line or the cable guy or whatever, 222 00:12:26,720 --> 00:12:29,880 Speaker 1: it's the same thing. It's um a much safer way 223 00:12:29,920 --> 00:12:33,480 Speaker 1: to rescue someone than throwing them over your shoulder at 224 00:12:33,520 --> 00:12:35,960 Speaker 1: the top of the ladder, which they'll still do. Yeah, 225 00:12:35,960 --> 00:12:38,360 Speaker 1: there's ladders that will extend you up and buddy, you're 226 00:12:38,360 --> 00:12:40,360 Speaker 1: hanging on to the top of the ladder. Man. But 227 00:12:40,400 --> 00:12:45,200 Speaker 1: if you're in a bucket, no, I can't because they 228 00:12:45,240 --> 00:12:47,800 Speaker 1: have ladders that go up you know, like fifteen stories. 229 00:12:48,360 --> 00:12:51,200 Speaker 1: There's a hundred that's a fifteen story building. Just standing 230 00:12:51,200 --> 00:12:54,400 Speaker 1: on the top of the ladder, I would literally lose 231 00:12:54,760 --> 00:12:57,680 Speaker 1: my mind. Yeah, you're not cut out to be that guy. No, 232 00:12:57,760 --> 00:13:00,720 Speaker 1: I'm not. Um a bucket, I would just crawled down 233 00:13:00,800 --> 00:13:02,280 Speaker 1: in the bottom of and be like give me to 234 00:13:02,360 --> 00:13:04,920 Speaker 1: have and just scream that the whole time. But I 235 00:13:04,960 --> 00:13:06,840 Speaker 1: don't think I would lose my mind. I just you know, 236 00:13:06,960 --> 00:13:09,760 Speaker 1: lose my s well. But most of those buckets are 237 00:13:09,880 --> 00:13:13,800 Speaker 1: open sided anyway, so you still and they have railings 238 00:13:13,800 --> 00:13:17,080 Speaker 1: and stuff. But no, it doesn't matter. I've been in 239 00:13:17,120 --> 00:13:19,120 Speaker 1: one of those on a film set, like I've been 240 00:13:19,120 --> 00:13:23,800 Speaker 1: pretty high up in a cherry picker um, and it's yeah, 241 00:13:23,880 --> 00:13:26,200 Speaker 1: I mean there, I don't have the big heights thing. 242 00:13:26,280 --> 00:13:28,600 Speaker 1: But I was still kind of like, now, if this 243 00:13:28,600 --> 00:13:30,959 Speaker 1: isn't something happened, that would be in bad shape. I 244 00:13:31,080 --> 00:13:33,840 Speaker 1: imagine if you actually were also afraid of heights, if 245 00:13:33,840 --> 00:13:36,720 Speaker 1: you had like the rational fear and then the irrational 246 00:13:36,760 --> 00:13:40,120 Speaker 1: fear combined. But yes, some of them do have this 247 00:13:40,440 --> 00:13:43,800 Speaker 1: with the ladder. They the ladder will go up and 248 00:13:43,840 --> 00:13:46,760 Speaker 1: then it's um usually on a turntable, which is basically 249 00:13:46,800 --> 00:13:49,360 Speaker 1: a gear that moves it left and right, but with 250 00:13:49,440 --> 00:13:52,199 Speaker 1: one of those cherry pickers. Usually it's an arm that 251 00:13:52,280 --> 00:13:55,240 Speaker 1: has like at least one or two joints in it, 252 00:13:55,480 --> 00:13:57,240 Speaker 1: so you can kind of move that thing all over 253 00:13:57,320 --> 00:14:00,000 Speaker 1: like one of those robot arms. Yeah, you got litt 254 00:14:00,120 --> 00:14:03,000 Speaker 1: joystick yeah, uh, and you're it's just like playing a 255 00:14:03,080 --> 00:14:05,400 Speaker 1: video game. It's like a rock on socker robot, but 256 00:14:05,520 --> 00:14:08,600 Speaker 1: with a fire But the nineteen sixties is where we 257 00:14:08,640 --> 00:14:12,120 Speaker 1: really sort of got to where we are now with 258 00:14:12,240 --> 00:14:16,440 Speaker 1: the quote unquote modern fire engine. Um, and since then 259 00:14:16,480 --> 00:14:21,720 Speaker 1: it's just gotten even better. Yeah, they're not all red. Yeah. 260 00:14:21,960 --> 00:14:24,080 Speaker 1: If you don't have a red fire engine, though, it's like, 261 00:14:24,200 --> 00:14:26,840 Speaker 1: what are you doing those white ones do you? Yeah, 262 00:14:26,880 --> 00:14:30,400 Speaker 1: that's kind of cool. I've seen communists to me, or 263 00:14:30,440 --> 00:14:35,360 Speaker 1: the yellow ones? What is that? Uh? Yeah, I've seen 264 00:14:35,440 --> 00:14:38,240 Speaker 1: yellow ones. I think I have to say, Charles, when 265 00:14:38,280 --> 00:14:43,440 Speaker 1: I was researching this article, there is um no more 266 00:14:43,600 --> 00:14:47,360 Speaker 1: guarantee of local press coverage than a city buying a 267 00:14:47,440 --> 00:14:51,640 Speaker 1: new fire truck. I cannot tell you how many entries 268 00:14:51,720 --> 00:14:54,520 Speaker 1: there are for different towns around the country. Look what 269 00:14:54,560 --> 00:14:58,160 Speaker 1: we got the fire department debuts new fire truck. Yeah, 270 00:14:58,200 --> 00:15:01,080 Speaker 1: they're all so shiny all the rome. They're like, look 271 00:15:01,080 --> 00:15:06,080 Speaker 1: at how much it costs because it's tax payer owned. Yeah, 272 00:15:06,200 --> 00:15:09,080 Speaker 1: it's pretty cool. I think it's cute. I think we should. 273 00:15:09,080 --> 00:15:11,560 Speaker 1: I mean, I would love to do another follow up 274 00:15:11,560 --> 00:15:14,680 Speaker 1: at some point on like firehouses, because the whole thing. 275 00:15:15,120 --> 00:15:17,080 Speaker 1: I mean, there's something about being a kid. You're just 276 00:15:17,240 --> 00:15:20,280 Speaker 1: enthralled by it because you walk by. You know, there's 277 00:15:20,320 --> 00:15:22,800 Speaker 1: one right there in oak Hurst behind where all the 278 00:15:22,840 --> 00:15:27,080 Speaker 1: restaurants are, so people with kids are constantly walking by 279 00:15:27,160 --> 00:15:31,400 Speaker 1: this thing, and the doors always open, and the firefighters 280 00:15:31,400 --> 00:15:34,400 Speaker 1: are always sitting around, like I mean, obviously unless they're 281 00:15:34,520 --> 00:15:38,040 Speaker 1: on an active fire. There there, they look like they're 282 00:15:38,040 --> 00:15:41,000 Speaker 1: just enjoying each other, and they always smile and white 283 00:15:41,000 --> 00:15:43,120 Speaker 1: the kids in and to take a look, and it 284 00:15:43,240 --> 00:15:45,240 Speaker 1: just it's such a cool job. Come on and have 285 00:15:45,280 --> 00:15:47,600 Speaker 1: some chili. I love it is there a cooler job 286 00:15:47,640 --> 00:15:49,400 Speaker 1: where you're like putting your life on the line, but 287 00:15:49,440 --> 00:15:53,840 Speaker 1: you're still you know, so just like I've been on 288 00:15:53,880 --> 00:15:59,400 Speaker 1: military basis, those those people aren't just hang military basis 289 00:16:00,520 --> 00:16:03,040 Speaker 1: can chili and you're back back. Yeah, I know, but 290 00:16:03,320 --> 00:16:05,400 Speaker 1: you don't want that. Let's just to keep you a 291 00:16:05,400 --> 00:16:08,760 Speaker 1: long sea rations something joyful about that chili? And uh, 292 00:16:09,400 --> 00:16:10,920 Speaker 1: I don't know. I think you make a good point. 293 00:16:11,920 --> 00:16:14,080 Speaker 1: Do you want to take a break? All right, let's 294 00:16:14,080 --> 00:16:16,280 Speaker 1: take a break and we'll talk about what's on these 295 00:16:16,320 --> 00:16:48,480 Speaker 1: amazing trucks? Okay, everybody, let's get down to it. What's 296 00:16:48,560 --> 00:16:52,560 Speaker 1: on fire? Let's start with the fire engine? This how 297 00:16:52,600 --> 00:16:57,440 Speaker 1: stuff works article? The way was it dry? It was trying. Um, 298 00:16:57,480 --> 00:17:02,040 Speaker 1: there was a lot of what's it called when you conflate? 299 00:17:02,080 --> 00:17:05,560 Speaker 1: I guess a lot of conflation where basically they make 300 00:17:05,600 --> 00:17:07,280 Speaker 1: it sound like it's all just on one truck. And 301 00:17:07,320 --> 00:17:09,680 Speaker 1: I guess it was because I think they made a 302 00:17:09,800 --> 00:17:12,439 Speaker 1: visit to a North Carolina fire department to look at 303 00:17:12,480 --> 00:17:15,200 Speaker 1: their truck and then base the entire article on that. 304 00:17:15,480 --> 00:17:17,280 Speaker 1: But the writer it was kind of funny, It's like, 305 00:17:17,440 --> 00:17:19,040 Speaker 1: and then there was this thing, and then there was 306 00:17:19,040 --> 00:17:21,320 Speaker 1: this thing and this thing was cool. And then they 307 00:17:21,359 --> 00:17:23,240 Speaker 1: had a thing here and they let me sit and 308 00:17:23,280 --> 00:17:28,479 Speaker 1: pull the run the sirens. Uh. But you know, again, 309 00:17:28,560 --> 00:17:32,480 Speaker 1: this is not they're all shapes and sizes. I think 310 00:17:32,520 --> 00:17:35,200 Speaker 1: this is sort of just a standard. When you see 311 00:17:35,240 --> 00:17:38,560 Speaker 1: a standard fire engine, you can count on a lot 312 00:17:38,560 --> 00:17:41,640 Speaker 1: of this stuff being on it. Is that okay? Yeah, 313 00:17:42,359 --> 00:17:45,480 Speaker 1: so uh, one thing that you're gonna you're gonna have 314 00:17:45,680 --> 00:17:48,760 Speaker 1: on an engine is a big tank of water. Is 315 00:17:48,760 --> 00:17:52,200 Speaker 1: an engine mostly right, But you also have the ability 316 00:17:52,200 --> 00:17:54,280 Speaker 1: and this is really neat if there's a lake nearby 317 00:17:54,520 --> 00:17:58,119 Speaker 1: or a swimming pool even or obviously fire hydrants are 318 00:17:58,119 --> 00:18:02,240 Speaker 1: are handy. Um, you can suck water from those things 319 00:18:02,280 --> 00:18:05,960 Speaker 1: and use it. But it's it doesn't just go straight 320 00:18:06,000 --> 00:18:10,280 Speaker 1: into a hose. Um. It runs through the truck and 321 00:18:10,320 --> 00:18:12,440 Speaker 1: then through the I mean there are hoses that attached 322 00:18:12,480 --> 00:18:14,520 Speaker 1: to this stuff or suck it out. But but you're 323 00:18:14,600 --> 00:18:18,240 Speaker 1: running it through the central engine. Um, so you can 324 00:18:18,280 --> 00:18:21,080 Speaker 1: regulate all that stuff. Right. And like an engine has 325 00:18:21,240 --> 00:18:24,560 Speaker 1: three components, Like every fire engine has at least three components. 326 00:18:24,560 --> 00:18:27,720 Speaker 1: A tank filled with water that it transports to the fire, 327 00:18:28,320 --> 00:18:31,680 Speaker 1: A pump that pressurizes that water from being pumped out 328 00:18:31,920 --> 00:18:35,040 Speaker 1: and then lines or hoses that that they'll pumped out 329 00:18:35,040 --> 00:18:37,879 Speaker 1: water shoots from onto the fire. So many hoses and 330 00:18:38,119 --> 00:18:41,840 Speaker 1: a lot of different hoses. This article spelled out every 331 00:18:41,880 --> 00:18:44,200 Speaker 1: single one of them. Yeah, And what I gathered to 332 00:18:44,520 --> 00:18:50,280 Speaker 1: was they want options, options, options, so they can have 333 00:18:50,440 --> 00:18:55,879 Speaker 1: speed speed speed, so hoses like they'll they'll have the big, huge, 334 00:18:56,400 --> 00:18:59,520 Speaker 1: you know, five footer, but then in compartments they'll have 335 00:19:00,040 --> 00:19:02,800 Speaker 1: footers and fifty footers because they just want to be 336 00:19:02,840 --> 00:19:06,880 Speaker 1: able to get water the fastest possible way. And that's 337 00:19:06,960 --> 00:19:09,960 Speaker 1: not all the times with the longest hose. Yeah, and 338 00:19:10,000 --> 00:19:13,280 Speaker 1: it's also not necessarily uh, the hose with the widest 339 00:19:13,320 --> 00:19:16,359 Speaker 1: diameter that's the best for the job, right right, Um, 340 00:19:16,440 --> 00:19:18,280 Speaker 1: it could be a smaller fire so you don't need 341 00:19:18,359 --> 00:19:20,520 Speaker 1: quite as much water. So there there is a lot 342 00:19:20,560 --> 00:19:24,959 Speaker 1: of um, a lot of split second decision, but decisions 343 00:19:25,280 --> 00:19:28,400 Speaker 1: in in hose selection basically, and from what I gather, 344 00:19:28,520 --> 00:19:31,720 Speaker 1: the fire captain is telling the crew like, we're probably 345 00:19:31,760 --> 00:19:33,880 Speaker 1: gonna need these hoses. You take this hose, you take 346 00:19:33,920 --> 00:19:37,679 Speaker 1: that hose, um ready break kind of thing on the 347 00:19:37,720 --> 00:19:40,800 Speaker 1: way to the fire. So it's not like the individual 348 00:19:40,800 --> 00:19:45,200 Speaker 1: firefighters are necessarily deciding for themselves, although I could be wrong. 349 00:19:45,280 --> 00:19:48,399 Speaker 1: I don't know. I'm totally speaking out of turn, but 350 00:19:48,520 --> 00:19:52,800 Speaker 1: just cobbling together separate facts. That's the impression I have. Yeah, 351 00:19:52,880 --> 00:19:55,159 Speaker 1: I think you're right. I think I mean, obviously, when 352 00:19:55,200 --> 00:19:59,520 Speaker 1: they get there, there's an assessment period that's super fast 353 00:19:59,520 --> 00:20:01,200 Speaker 1: on the way A. I think you're right. I think 354 00:20:01,240 --> 00:20:03,560 Speaker 1: they have an idea because they've been radioed. We've got 355 00:20:03,560 --> 00:20:06,760 Speaker 1: a you know, an apartment building that's four stories in 356 00:20:06,840 --> 00:20:09,879 Speaker 1: this many units, and the fire is largely on the 357 00:20:09,920 --> 00:20:12,840 Speaker 1: top floors. So on the way, the captain who sits 358 00:20:12,880 --> 00:20:17,959 Speaker 1: in the passenger seat is radio ing too the firefighters 359 00:20:18,040 --> 00:20:20,960 Speaker 1: in what's called the jump seat area, which is that 360 00:20:21,320 --> 00:20:24,480 Speaker 1: little area behind which carries like what six people four 361 00:20:24,560 --> 00:20:27,680 Speaker 1: to four to six to eight people in a fire 362 00:20:27,720 --> 00:20:30,160 Speaker 1: engine from what I see. So they're radioing back and saying, 363 00:20:30,200 --> 00:20:32,560 Speaker 1: all right, when we hit the ground, we're gonna need 364 00:20:32,680 --> 00:20:36,719 Speaker 1: three one footers. And they're different ports on the you know, 365 00:20:36,840 --> 00:20:39,560 Speaker 1: sides or the back or the top of the fire engine. 366 00:20:39,960 --> 00:20:42,160 Speaker 1: It's not just like, well there's only one area where 367 00:20:42,200 --> 00:20:45,560 Speaker 1: we can get this water. Uh Again, they just want 368 00:20:45,600 --> 00:20:47,960 Speaker 1: all sorts of options so when they get there, they 369 00:20:48,000 --> 00:20:50,480 Speaker 1: can kind of hit the ground running, right, So they 370 00:20:50,600 --> 00:20:53,359 Speaker 1: literally hit the ground running when they get there. The 371 00:20:53,880 --> 00:20:57,000 Speaker 1: um driver the House of Works article made it sound 372 00:20:57,000 --> 00:21:00,960 Speaker 1: like the driver is invariably the pump up rader. I 373 00:21:01,040 --> 00:21:03,040 Speaker 1: don't know that that's true or not, but there is 374 00:21:03,080 --> 00:21:08,560 Speaker 1: somebody who's designated the motor pump operator, the MPO, and 375 00:21:08,920 --> 00:21:13,760 Speaker 1: they look at you, you know, uh, they hop out 376 00:21:13,840 --> 00:21:16,720 Speaker 1: and they jump up onto the truck and they start 377 00:21:16,840 --> 00:21:19,639 Speaker 1: the pump. And the first thing that happens when that 378 00:21:19,720 --> 00:21:23,680 Speaker 1: pump starts um. At the very least, this housetuf Works 379 00:21:23,760 --> 00:21:26,919 Speaker 1: article had a truck that had an impeller water pump 380 00:21:26,960 --> 00:21:30,200 Speaker 1: on it, and it uses centrifugal force like it's rotors 381 00:21:30,240 --> 00:21:33,080 Speaker 1: like a turbine, basically spinning really fast, and when water 382 00:21:33,160 --> 00:21:36,159 Speaker 1: hits it, it slings it outside and in doing so, 383 00:21:36,240 --> 00:21:40,720 Speaker 1: the centrifugal force applied to it creates pressure, so it 384 00:21:40,800 --> 00:21:44,840 Speaker 1: pressurizes the water and they open the valve in the 385 00:21:44,840 --> 00:21:48,400 Speaker 1: tank because remember they've got maybe a thousand gallons of water, right, 386 00:21:50,560 --> 00:21:53,639 Speaker 1: it's a ton of water. Um. They and they turned 387 00:21:53,680 --> 00:21:56,080 Speaker 1: the pump on and they open the valve that dumps 388 00:21:56,160 --> 00:21:58,560 Speaker 1: the tank, the water from the tank onto the pump. 389 00:21:58,840 --> 00:22:02,320 Speaker 1: So that's being pressure and then the pump sends it 390 00:22:02,320 --> 00:22:04,439 Speaker 1: out to the hoses. And the reason that they do 391 00:22:04,520 --> 00:22:07,000 Speaker 1: this is they want to be able to start dousing 392 00:22:07,000 --> 00:22:10,159 Speaker 1: this flame, this fire with water immediately. But at the 393 00:22:10,200 --> 00:22:13,119 Speaker 1: same time they're also looking around for the fire hydrant 394 00:22:13,160 --> 00:22:15,840 Speaker 1: to connect to for like you said, a pond to drain, 395 00:22:16,000 --> 00:22:18,840 Speaker 1: to drain from a swimming pool nearby. They can drain 396 00:22:18,880 --> 00:22:21,800 Speaker 1: your swimming pool if they need to to turn what 397 00:22:21,840 --> 00:22:23,760 Speaker 1: are you gonna do get that out of my pool? 398 00:22:24,119 --> 00:22:27,000 Speaker 1: I don't like that neighbor that much, um. But they're 399 00:22:27,000 --> 00:22:29,919 Speaker 1: looking for other sources of water, and they can actually 400 00:22:29,960 --> 00:22:32,880 Speaker 1: set up something called a drop tank, which is basically 401 00:22:32,880 --> 00:22:37,119 Speaker 1: a collapsible portable pool above ground pool. Is that what 402 00:22:37,119 --> 00:22:40,159 Speaker 1: that is? Yes? Okay, that was a little confusing. It 403 00:22:40,200 --> 00:22:42,959 Speaker 1: was a little confusing, um, But yeah, it's just something 404 00:22:43,200 --> 00:22:46,480 Speaker 1: that just is semi rigid that you stand up and 405 00:22:46,800 --> 00:22:49,640 Speaker 1: other fire trucks can come in from other areas and 406 00:22:49,840 --> 00:22:52,440 Speaker 1: dump their tanks into the pool, and then you've got 407 00:22:52,480 --> 00:22:55,679 Speaker 1: the main fire truck drawing water out of it. So 408 00:22:55,720 --> 00:22:58,480 Speaker 1: it's like a temporary holding facility. But you're looking for 409 00:22:58,520 --> 00:23:00,960 Speaker 1: another source of water. Is if you have a thousand 410 00:23:00,960 --> 00:23:05,840 Speaker 1: gallon tank and you're using one of them, the hose 411 00:23:05,920 --> 00:23:08,919 Speaker 1: lines that's spewing out a thousand gallons a minute. You 412 00:23:08,920 --> 00:23:11,320 Speaker 1: have one minute of water. Do the math. You need 413 00:23:11,359 --> 00:23:14,679 Speaker 1: a lot more than that. So, um, that's just basically 414 00:23:14,760 --> 00:23:18,560 Speaker 1: to get things started while the other firefighters on the 415 00:23:18,600 --> 00:23:23,639 Speaker 1: engine hop off and start connecting to another source of water, 416 00:23:23,880 --> 00:23:26,880 Speaker 1: whether it's a fire hydrant or a pond or swimming pool. Yeah, 417 00:23:26,880 --> 00:23:28,479 Speaker 1: I want to I would like to hear from some 418 00:23:28,600 --> 00:23:34,800 Speaker 1: fire fighters about use of the onboard water versus drawn water. 419 00:23:35,960 --> 00:23:38,600 Speaker 1: But I have a feeling you're probably right, is that 420 00:23:38,600 --> 00:23:41,440 Speaker 1: that's just for the immediate Like while you're getting hooked 421 00:23:41,480 --> 00:23:43,679 Speaker 1: up to the hydrant, we're gonna go ahead and and 422 00:23:43,800 --> 00:23:46,560 Speaker 1: douse this thing. Yeah. Time is of the essence. Time 423 00:23:46,560 --> 00:23:49,119 Speaker 1: is of the essence, of course. Um, So all these lines, 424 00:23:49,240 --> 00:23:52,480 Speaker 1: it's really kind of beautiful in its simplicity. These lines 425 00:23:53,480 --> 00:23:58,160 Speaker 1: are color coded, so the hoses and the lines all 426 00:23:58,240 --> 00:24:01,719 Speaker 1: have color, so the purse and up there doesn't have 427 00:24:01,840 --> 00:24:04,720 Speaker 1: to like you know, again, with time being of the essence, 428 00:24:04,760 --> 00:24:07,760 Speaker 1: it's very simple. Which, uh, because they're in control up 429 00:24:07,800 --> 00:24:10,479 Speaker 1: there on that board of which hoses are being enacted 430 00:24:10,480 --> 00:24:14,600 Speaker 1: at any given time, and there are you know, their 431 00:24:14,680 --> 00:24:18,160 Speaker 1: relief valves built in, so if you shut off one 432 00:24:18,520 --> 00:24:22,679 Speaker 1: one hose, the other one doesn't go. Whoa yeah, all 433 00:24:22,680 --> 00:24:24,359 Speaker 1: of a sudden, it's all the waters going to that 434 00:24:24,400 --> 00:24:27,520 Speaker 1: one turns into like a cartoon fire hose, you know, 435 00:24:27,640 --> 00:24:30,600 Speaker 1: like eight people. It's like that. What was that? Uh? 436 00:24:30,720 --> 00:24:34,040 Speaker 1: Oh Roxanne the Steve Martin movie. Yeah, did that happened 437 00:24:34,040 --> 00:24:35,960 Speaker 1: to that? Yeah? That was sort of the updated version 438 00:24:36,000 --> 00:24:40,480 Speaker 1: of Cyrano diverge diversion diversia irac Oh. I'm familiar, no, 439 00:24:40,560 --> 00:24:43,639 Speaker 1: but I couldn't pronounce it right. It wasn't that all right. 440 00:24:44,040 --> 00:24:46,399 Speaker 1: But they were firefighters, But did they end up like 441 00:24:46,960 --> 00:24:50,800 Speaker 1: being There were some funny scenes where Steve Martin's like 442 00:24:50,800 --> 00:24:53,400 Speaker 1: on the telephone and in the background at a at 443 00:24:53,400 --> 00:24:57,480 Speaker 1: a practice fire like zane nous is going on in 444 00:24:57,520 --> 00:25:00,480 Speaker 1: the background. I don't remember that at all. A good movie. 445 00:25:01,560 --> 00:25:06,680 Speaker 1: Block that out the whole movie, at least that part. Uh, 446 00:25:06,760 --> 00:25:10,280 Speaker 1: all right, So that's that's what's going on with the water. Um. 447 00:25:10,320 --> 00:25:13,480 Speaker 1: There's also foam like you were talking about. Uh, these 448 00:25:13,560 --> 00:25:17,359 Speaker 1: days this this foam. Uh, fire retardants do a great 449 00:25:17,440 --> 00:25:20,600 Speaker 1: job of Sometimes they'll spray it on to make sure 450 00:25:20,640 --> 00:25:24,159 Speaker 1: something doesn't catch on fire. I don't get the picture 451 00:25:24,200 --> 00:25:26,520 Speaker 1: that it's always to put out a fire, is that right? 452 00:25:26,680 --> 00:25:30,080 Speaker 1: I think they use phone to make sure stuff doesn't reignite. Yeah, 453 00:25:30,200 --> 00:25:32,560 Speaker 1: depending on the type of foam, or depending on the 454 00:25:32,600 --> 00:25:34,840 Speaker 1: type of fire, you'll use a different type of foam, 455 00:25:35,560 --> 00:25:41,320 Speaker 1: like one prevents. Class A I think is to prevent reignition, 456 00:25:41,600 --> 00:25:44,439 Speaker 1: right of like maybe like a hot wood fire. Maybe 457 00:25:44,520 --> 00:25:47,160 Speaker 1: it says here Class B is more for car fires 458 00:25:48,600 --> 00:25:52,440 Speaker 1: or where if there's like gasoline that could you know, ignite. Yeah, 459 00:25:52,440 --> 00:25:55,280 Speaker 1: and I was looking into very I think actually foam 460 00:25:55,400 --> 00:25:58,840 Speaker 1: deserves its own podcast because apparently it's like fire for 461 00:25:59,280 --> 00:26:04,840 Speaker 1: super Tixic and like routinely destroys water supplies when it 462 00:26:04,840 --> 00:26:07,560 Speaker 1: gets in it. But I also saw that they make 463 00:26:07,640 --> 00:26:11,159 Speaker 1: some from proteins, which is, you know, it's natural, so 464 00:26:11,200 --> 00:26:12,920 Speaker 1: I'm sure it's fine. You can probably eat it after 465 00:26:13,000 --> 00:26:14,560 Speaker 1: a fire or something. What does that mean? Is it 466 00:26:14,640 --> 00:26:19,480 Speaker 1: like we turned a cow into foam? Probably that's what 467 00:26:19,600 --> 00:26:30,760 Speaker 1: glues from. Oh in jello? Yeah, jellouh? Wait? Did we 468 00:26:31,040 --> 00:26:33,680 Speaker 1: I think we did? No? That was lego? No, dude, 469 00:26:33,720 --> 00:26:37,919 Speaker 1: I think we did remember jello molds? Did we? Yes? Oh? 470 00:26:38,040 --> 00:26:39,960 Speaker 1: Good lord? Oh it was a good one. If I 471 00:26:40,000 --> 00:26:43,679 Speaker 1: remember correctly, I have no memory of that. I really 472 00:26:43,760 --> 00:26:46,399 Speaker 1: believe that we did an episode on Jello, all right, 473 00:26:46,560 --> 00:26:48,520 Speaker 1: and I think it was good. See this is why 474 00:26:48,560 --> 00:26:51,280 Speaker 1: when people ask us on stage, like what was your 475 00:26:51,320 --> 00:26:54,760 Speaker 1: favorite episode, it's like I say Disco every single time 476 00:26:54,960 --> 00:26:58,080 Speaker 1: because it's the only one I can remember routine ley. 477 00:26:58,359 --> 00:27:02,480 Speaker 1: But there's so many, literally hundreds of episodes that I 478 00:27:02,600 --> 00:27:05,720 Speaker 1: love that we've done, which makes me feel very proud 479 00:27:05,720 --> 00:27:07,640 Speaker 1: of our work. You know, the fact that we don't 480 00:27:07,640 --> 00:27:11,000 Speaker 1: look back on it and say, like, you know, just 481 00:27:11,119 --> 00:27:15,960 Speaker 1: jackhammers basically, um that I think it's great. I agree 482 00:27:16,080 --> 00:27:18,000 Speaker 1: not to pat ourselves on the back or break our 483 00:27:18,080 --> 00:27:20,320 Speaker 1: arms doing so. I'm just saying I'm kind of proud 484 00:27:20,320 --> 00:27:25,639 Speaker 1: of what we've done over the last decade. Agreed. Congratulations, congratulations? 485 00:27:25,880 --> 00:27:30,080 Speaker 1: Um So the hostes, Yeah, yeah, I forgot that. She 486 00:27:30,200 --> 00:27:34,440 Speaker 1: just gave you a little She's got a salad she's eating. 487 00:27:34,480 --> 00:27:39,080 Speaker 1: She's not even paying attention. Um So, hoses are called blinds, 488 00:27:39,119 --> 00:27:42,560 Speaker 1: I think on the job, um like on firefighters don't 489 00:27:42,560 --> 00:27:45,520 Speaker 1: calm hoses now they call them line. Yeah, yeah, you're 490 00:27:45,520 --> 00:27:47,600 Speaker 1: a chump if you call it a hos Hey, what 491 00:27:47,720 --> 00:27:50,000 Speaker 1: kind of hoses that you'll get laughed out of fire. 492 00:27:50,600 --> 00:27:54,920 Speaker 1: So cross lay hoses are hoses. Um well, I think 493 00:27:55,080 --> 00:27:57,640 Speaker 1: that you are laid on the ground, is that right? 494 00:27:59,520 --> 00:28:02,960 Speaker 1: I believe that they are coiled up, laying over one another, 495 00:28:03,119 --> 00:28:04,960 Speaker 1: and they're easy to get to on the side of 496 00:28:04,960 --> 00:28:06,760 Speaker 1: the truck. You can just grab the end of it 497 00:28:06,800 --> 00:28:10,520 Speaker 1: and run. And they may even be pre connected. There's 498 00:28:10,520 --> 00:28:16,040 Speaker 1: a type of hose that's it's pretty appropriately named pre preconnect. 499 00:28:16,560 --> 00:28:19,520 Speaker 1: It's already connected. So if you're the pump operator and 500 00:28:19,520 --> 00:28:22,120 Speaker 1: you see one of your guys running with the preconnect three, 501 00:28:22,800 --> 00:28:27,840 Speaker 1: you turn on Indigo Lever three, that's right, maybe yellow four, 502 00:28:28,040 --> 00:28:29,880 Speaker 1: whatever it is, and now all of a sudden they've 503 00:28:29,920 --> 00:28:32,920 Speaker 1: got water coming through it. Yeah, they have booster lines. 504 00:28:33,119 --> 00:28:35,199 Speaker 1: I mean again, we're not going to go through all 505 00:28:35,240 --> 00:28:38,520 Speaker 1: these different lines, but it's just very easy to say. 506 00:28:38,520 --> 00:28:41,800 Speaker 1: They all vary in diameter and link depending on what 507 00:28:41,880 --> 00:28:46,160 Speaker 1: your needs are. Depending on the diameter, um that that 508 00:28:46,200 --> 00:28:48,800 Speaker 1: will that will determine how much water can come through 509 00:28:48,840 --> 00:28:51,760 Speaker 1: at a time. And some of them are up to 510 00:28:51,800 --> 00:28:55,480 Speaker 1: a thousand gallons a minute. But again, that's your whole 511 00:28:55,480 --> 00:28:57,640 Speaker 1: tank in a minute. And I was like, gosh, that's 512 00:28:57,680 --> 00:29:01,200 Speaker 1: so fast. That's that must be like Olympic pool in 513 00:29:01,200 --> 00:29:04,480 Speaker 1: in an hour or something. No, it's eleven hours. So 514 00:29:04,760 --> 00:29:07,640 Speaker 1: if you're a firefighter and you are putting out a 515 00:29:07,680 --> 00:29:13,040 Speaker 1: fire next to an Olympic sized pool, you're like jack, yeah, 516 00:29:12,880 --> 00:29:17,120 Speaker 1: ye swimmers are bummed. Though, Yeah, it would take to 517 00:29:17,200 --> 00:29:19,960 Speaker 1: fill in those things up. Uh, well, it depends on 518 00:29:19,960 --> 00:29:24,120 Speaker 1: what kind of hose. I'm sorry line right. Uh. The 519 00:29:24,240 --> 00:29:28,040 Speaker 1: real fun part though, like if every child an adult alike, 520 00:29:28,720 --> 00:29:32,840 Speaker 1: um always wants to look at that deluge gun and 521 00:29:32,920 --> 00:29:35,120 Speaker 1: that is the thing that is not a hose, but 522 00:29:35,280 --> 00:29:37,120 Speaker 1: it is the thing that sits atop of the fire 523 00:29:37,160 --> 00:29:41,240 Speaker 1: engine that is like uh, sort of the equivalent of 524 00:29:41,280 --> 00:29:44,400 Speaker 1: the the Gatlin gun on top of the tank in warfare. 525 00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:47,920 Speaker 1: That you can just point that thing and water is 526 00:29:47,960 --> 00:29:52,160 Speaker 1: being sucked from the the hydrant straight through. So it's 527 00:29:52,160 --> 00:29:56,800 Speaker 1: regulated an into that deluge gun and just a massive, 528 00:29:56,920 --> 00:29:59,440 Speaker 1: massive amounts of water can go really really high and 529 00:29:59,480 --> 00:30:03,360 Speaker 1: far up. It's kind of that simple, it is, And 530 00:30:03,400 --> 00:30:06,160 Speaker 1: I imagine that's you know, I don't know if everyone 531 00:30:06,800 --> 00:30:08,840 Speaker 1: I am curious to hear from firefighters, like if you 532 00:30:08,840 --> 00:30:12,040 Speaker 1: have a permanent designation or if it's a tiered thing, 533 00:30:12,120 --> 00:30:14,640 Speaker 1: like you work your way up to deluge gun or 534 00:30:14,680 --> 00:30:19,240 Speaker 1: if that's the lowest job, because it is, because it's 535 00:30:19,360 --> 00:30:22,080 Speaker 1: because you're just there on the truck, and maybe the 536 00:30:22,080 --> 00:30:24,840 Speaker 1: more experienced firefighters are on that ladder going into the building, 537 00:30:25,280 --> 00:30:27,840 Speaker 1: or if they just take turns or drop straws, like 538 00:30:28,040 --> 00:30:29,880 Speaker 1: that's what. I don't know. I don't know either, but 539 00:30:29,960 --> 00:30:31,920 Speaker 1: I would guess that if you're manning the daily or 540 00:30:32,040 --> 00:30:36,440 Speaker 1: human ng the deluge gun, you are pretty experienced because 541 00:30:36,480 --> 00:30:39,080 Speaker 1: you've got basically the whole truck's about the water at 542 00:30:39,080 --> 00:30:42,040 Speaker 1: your fingertips or whatever water you know, all the water 543 00:30:42,080 --> 00:30:44,640 Speaker 1: in the world. Sure connected, But if you haven't connected 544 00:30:44,680 --> 00:30:46,640 Speaker 1: up yet, and they're like, start with the deluge gun, 545 00:30:47,000 --> 00:30:49,280 Speaker 1: which from what I understand, would be something that they 546 00:30:49,280 --> 00:30:51,400 Speaker 1: would do because use the day luge gun to kind 547 00:30:51,400 --> 00:30:54,760 Speaker 1: of dampen down the fire that initial you can get 548 00:30:54,760 --> 00:30:59,000 Speaker 1: closer to it with the lines, you know, and the personnel. 549 00:30:59,320 --> 00:31:01,480 Speaker 1: So yeah, it might be like the first thing you 550 00:31:01,520 --> 00:31:03,400 Speaker 1: hit a fire with the pen. So maybe the most 551 00:31:03,560 --> 00:31:06,800 Speaker 1: experienced firefighter because if you put the rookie back there, 552 00:31:06,880 --> 00:31:09,640 Speaker 1: they're like, you're that building is not even on fire 553 00:31:10,160 --> 00:31:13,840 Speaker 1: and you just in your pointing the wrong way Jackson, 554 00:31:15,200 --> 00:31:18,760 Speaker 1: because they go by last name. I think somebody's there's 555 00:31:18,760 --> 00:31:22,520 Speaker 1: got to be a firefire named Jackson, firefire Jackson the rookie. 556 00:31:23,720 --> 00:31:29,520 Speaker 1: Uh again. More hoses. They have hoses called curb jumpers 557 00:31:29,560 --> 00:31:34,520 Speaker 1: because they're on the curb. They have hoses that that 558 00:31:35,320 --> 00:31:38,640 Speaker 1: are just carried up like that you can put over 559 00:31:38,680 --> 00:31:41,440 Speaker 1: your shoulder. It's called a hose pack. It's like all 560 00:31:41,440 --> 00:31:44,440 Speaker 1: bundled together, so you might carry that on your shoulder 561 00:31:44,560 --> 00:31:47,400 Speaker 1: up the ladder in order to once you get in there, 562 00:31:47,520 --> 00:31:49,440 Speaker 1: you're like, I need another fifty ft hose. Man, I'm 563 00:31:49,480 --> 00:31:53,400 Speaker 1: inside and you've got one slung over your shoulder, bundled together, 564 00:31:53,560 --> 00:31:56,040 Speaker 1: ready to go. They also have hoses that will run 565 00:31:56,160 --> 00:31:59,320 Speaker 1: up ladders too, so there's a line that will run 566 00:31:59,360 --> 00:32:02,800 Speaker 1: alongside the are usually a five inch diameter line, which 567 00:32:02,840 --> 00:32:08,320 Speaker 1: I think five I d um. I think pumps two 568 00:32:08,640 --> 00:32:13,280 Speaker 1: and fifty gallons a minute. It's a significant um, that's all. 569 00:32:13,320 --> 00:32:15,200 Speaker 1: I mean. That's a lot of water. But they do 570 00:32:15,280 --> 00:32:18,200 Speaker 1: that so that, if you know, you can shoot water 571 00:32:18,320 --> 00:32:21,400 Speaker 1: down onto a fire, which can be helpful for like 572 00:32:21,440 --> 00:32:23,680 Speaker 1: a roof fire or something like that. And then they 573 00:32:23,720 --> 00:32:26,840 Speaker 1: also have a lot of different nozzles too. You know, 574 00:32:26,960 --> 00:32:30,600 Speaker 1: a different nozzle does different jobs, like, um, if you 575 00:32:30,680 --> 00:32:33,440 Speaker 1: have a piercing nozzle, I hadn't heard about one of these. 576 00:32:33,560 --> 00:32:37,120 Speaker 1: They sound extremely dangerous. It can shoot right through walls 577 00:32:37,160 --> 00:32:40,840 Speaker 1: and I'm guessing like drywall walls, probably not a brick wall, 578 00:32:40,880 --> 00:32:43,480 Speaker 1: but who knows. I'm sure it could shoot right through 579 00:32:43,480 --> 00:32:46,200 Speaker 1: a window. But if you have um a fire in 580 00:32:46,240 --> 00:32:48,719 Speaker 1: another room and you can't get to it, you just 581 00:32:48,880 --> 00:32:51,000 Speaker 1: use one of those piercing nozzles and it shoots right 582 00:32:51,000 --> 00:32:52,640 Speaker 1: through the wall. You know what I call that? If 583 00:32:52,640 --> 00:32:56,000 Speaker 1: I was a fire person a master blaster. To get 584 00:32:56,040 --> 00:32:58,680 Speaker 1: the master blaster up here, you gotta shoot through some 585 00:32:58,760 --> 00:33:03,280 Speaker 1: sheet rock. Wasn't that the guy with the small guy, yeah, 586 00:33:03,640 --> 00:33:09,200 Speaker 1: controlling the bigger guy. And beyond the Thunderdome, right, that 587 00:33:09,280 --> 00:33:11,280 Speaker 1: was the only one they appeared in, wasn't it. You 588 00:33:11,400 --> 00:33:15,120 Speaker 1: just nailed all of that. Thank you. I didn't spoiled 589 00:33:15,360 --> 00:33:18,560 Speaker 1: beyond the Yeah, except you have to say it like 590 00:33:18,640 --> 00:33:22,040 Speaker 1: Tina Turner. You have to say massa blasta. I can't 591 00:33:22,160 --> 00:33:25,120 Speaker 1: improve on what you just did. Uh. And then there's 592 00:33:25,200 --> 00:33:28,000 Speaker 1: the ladders. Of course, like you said, some of these 593 00:33:28,640 --> 00:33:32,400 Speaker 1: bad boys can go like a hundred and fifty feet 594 00:33:32,440 --> 00:33:37,520 Speaker 1: in the air via hydraulics, which is totally frightening. If 595 00:33:37,520 --> 00:33:39,640 Speaker 1: you're going that high up, the truck is going to 596 00:33:39,720 --> 00:33:44,960 Speaker 1: have what are called out riggers, and those are basically 597 00:33:45,040 --> 00:33:50,280 Speaker 1: just these huge, um heavy metal legs that come out 598 00:33:50,320 --> 00:33:52,920 Speaker 1: from the side of the truck and land on the ground. 599 00:33:53,000 --> 00:33:56,720 Speaker 1: To really stabilize that truck, they expanded center of gravity 600 00:33:56,800 --> 00:34:00,280 Speaker 1: so it doesn't tip. Yeah, but there's so it's so 601 00:34:00,360 --> 00:34:03,240 Speaker 1: much pressure and force. They actually have to put down 602 00:34:03,320 --> 00:34:05,960 Speaker 1: pads in between the out rigger and the ground so 603 00:34:06,000 --> 00:34:08,759 Speaker 1: that doesn't just go right through the ass crushed the 604 00:34:08,840 --> 00:34:12,799 Speaker 1: concrete sidewalk. Ye, it's pretty pretty cool. Um, this is 605 00:34:12,840 --> 00:34:15,319 Speaker 1: all cool. Yeah, it's so funny how the little kid 606 00:34:15,360 --> 00:34:18,600 Speaker 1: comes out when you start talking about this stuff. Just 607 00:34:18,640 --> 00:34:21,960 Speaker 1: like big heavy things. You want to take an ad break. 608 00:34:22,760 --> 00:34:25,080 Speaker 1: I need to settle down. Yeah, we need to put 609 00:34:25,160 --> 00:34:57,759 Speaker 1: our inner five year olds in time out. Okay, we're back. 610 00:34:58,000 --> 00:34:59,920 Speaker 1: Our inner five year olds are being very quiet and 611 00:35:00,040 --> 00:35:05,320 Speaker 1: and they're behaving. Yes, So we've got the fire engine done, 612 00:35:06,000 --> 00:35:09,840 Speaker 1: fire or ladder truck done basically right, that ladder is 613 00:35:09,840 --> 00:35:13,319 Speaker 1: telescoped up, you got the outriggers in place. It's a 614 00:35:13,400 --> 00:35:18,240 Speaker 1: four alarmed fire and things are going well. So um, 615 00:35:19,000 --> 00:35:22,840 Speaker 1: you're probably going to see other fire trucks show up. Yes, 616 00:35:23,080 --> 00:35:26,320 Speaker 1: this is the classic literal version of the fire truck, 617 00:35:26,719 --> 00:35:32,439 Speaker 1: which is basically a UM human and equipment transporter. That's 618 00:35:32,440 --> 00:35:34,640 Speaker 1: what it's for. Yeah. And you know if you look 619 00:35:34,680 --> 00:35:37,000 Speaker 1: at a fire truck and they've got all those compartments 620 00:35:37,080 --> 00:35:40,799 Speaker 1: running along the sides, they are all full of goodies, um, 621 00:35:42,280 --> 00:35:45,800 Speaker 1: all kinds of fun stuff. You're talking about the nozzles. 622 00:35:45,840 --> 00:35:48,200 Speaker 1: Of course, there's something called a barrel strainer. So if 623 00:35:48,239 --> 00:35:50,480 Speaker 1: you have to throw, uh, if you have to suck 624 00:35:50,520 --> 00:35:52,840 Speaker 1: water out of a lake, um, you don't want to 625 00:35:52,840 --> 00:35:55,600 Speaker 1: suck up fish through there. While that would be kind 626 00:35:55,600 --> 00:35:58,080 Speaker 1: of funny looking, it would be mean. It would be 627 00:35:58,120 --> 00:36:01,440 Speaker 1: super mean. Have you ever seen video they salmon ladder? 628 00:36:02,040 --> 00:36:05,120 Speaker 1: Now I've seen that. Yeah, that's pretty amazing. Fish ladders. Um, 629 00:36:05,160 --> 00:36:08,400 Speaker 1: but when they when they it's not seed of stock, 630 00:36:08,440 --> 00:36:10,680 Speaker 1: when they stock a lake. Oh yeah, sometimes they do 631 00:36:10,719 --> 00:36:13,120 Speaker 1: it from airplanes. And have you seen the one of 632 00:36:13,200 --> 00:36:16,520 Speaker 1: the close up of the fish just going like I 633 00:36:16,520 --> 00:36:20,000 Speaker 1: have not? It's it's something to see. It's either animal 634 00:36:20,040 --> 00:36:22,319 Speaker 1: abuse or it's a wild ride that the fish is like, Man, 635 00:36:22,440 --> 00:36:25,480 Speaker 1: that's cool. I think it's both. Yeah, and now I'm 636 00:36:25,480 --> 00:36:28,080 Speaker 1: in a big new home and then someone will catch 637 00:36:28,080 --> 00:36:31,080 Speaker 1: me by putting a hook through my mouth, right, and 638 00:36:31,120 --> 00:36:35,080 Speaker 1: they're like, you'll never really far guard here. Emily gets 639 00:36:35,080 --> 00:36:38,520 Speaker 1: so sad when she sees fisher fisher people. Yeah, yeah, 640 00:36:38,600 --> 00:36:40,439 Speaker 1: she just can't help. But think of the fish, even 641 00:36:40,480 --> 00:36:44,080 Speaker 1: catching release. Uh yeah, and I've said that. It's like, 642 00:36:44,160 --> 00:36:46,360 Speaker 1: what about catching and leash? She's like, what would you 643 00:36:46,440 --> 00:36:48,839 Speaker 1: want someone to hook you, pull you out of the water, 644 00:36:49,000 --> 00:36:50,759 Speaker 1: and then just remove the hook and throw you back in. 645 00:36:50,880 --> 00:36:54,239 Speaker 1: She makes a good point. She does what else? There's 646 00:36:54,239 --> 00:36:57,800 Speaker 1: all sorts of of tools to like bust through walls 647 00:36:57,880 --> 00:37:01,120 Speaker 1: and pull down ceilings. Yeah, well that's so okay. Let's 648 00:37:01,200 --> 00:37:03,200 Speaker 1: just let's put this out there. If you show up 649 00:37:03,200 --> 00:37:05,200 Speaker 1: on a fire engine, your job is to run lines. 650 00:37:05,200 --> 00:37:07,960 Speaker 1: You're running the pump. You're the captain being like do this, 651 00:37:08,120 --> 00:37:10,759 Speaker 1: do that? Somebody light my cigar, that kind of thing. 652 00:37:11,120 --> 00:37:13,840 Speaker 1: If you show up on a ladder truck, you're probably 653 00:37:13,960 --> 00:37:16,440 Speaker 1: working a ladder. Um. If you show up on a 654 00:37:16,560 --> 00:37:20,160 Speaker 1: fire truck, you are there to work the fire. You're 655 00:37:20,200 --> 00:37:23,400 Speaker 1: there to rescue people inside the fire. Same with the 656 00:37:23,480 --> 00:37:27,680 Speaker 1: ladder truck, probably too. Um, you're there to manage the fire. 657 00:37:27,760 --> 00:37:30,319 Speaker 1: You're tracking it to see if it's moving from one 658 00:37:30,360 --> 00:37:32,839 Speaker 1: place to another or if it's starting to die down. 659 00:37:33,280 --> 00:37:36,399 Speaker 1: You're in there pulling down sheet rock with a pike 660 00:37:36,520 --> 00:37:39,560 Speaker 1: pole yeah, um, if you're pulling it from the ceiling 661 00:37:39,800 --> 00:37:42,439 Speaker 1: or a Halligen tool. Yeah, if you're pulling the walls down, 662 00:37:43,000 --> 00:37:48,279 Speaker 1: that maybe Helligan actually probably sounds irish, right um, which, 663 00:37:48,360 --> 00:37:50,840 Speaker 1: by the way, I want to say, Rescue Me is 664 00:37:50,960 --> 00:37:54,879 Speaker 1: probably the greatest firefire related TV show of all time. 665 00:37:55,040 --> 00:37:59,400 Speaker 1: I've never seen it. The Dennis Leary Show. Oh it 666 00:37:59,520 --> 00:38:02,759 Speaker 1: was really good. Really, yeah, it was bonkers, but it 667 00:38:02,920 --> 00:38:05,920 Speaker 1: was very good, very and Dennis Leary does a great job. 668 00:38:06,280 --> 00:38:08,279 Speaker 1: I'm surprised you watched that. It just doesn't seem like 669 00:38:08,320 --> 00:38:09,840 Speaker 1: a Josh show. Yeah. I was into it for a 670 00:38:09,920 --> 00:38:13,960 Speaker 1: while that and then the shield too interesting. Yeah all right, 671 00:38:14,360 --> 00:38:18,920 Speaker 1: you know me that much better now, So, uh, it 672 00:38:19,040 --> 00:38:21,160 Speaker 1: probably is. The Halligan tool is my point. But you're 673 00:38:21,239 --> 00:38:23,239 Speaker 1: in there, if you're a firefighter who showed up on 674 00:38:23,280 --> 00:38:25,839 Speaker 1: a fire truck, you're messing with the fire to make 675 00:38:25,880 --> 00:38:30,600 Speaker 1: it easier for the line operators to get water onto 676 00:38:30,680 --> 00:38:35,920 Speaker 1: the fire where it's needed, right, Yes, exactly. Depending on 677 00:38:36,000 --> 00:38:40,000 Speaker 1: how advanced your truck or how much dough your municipality has. 678 00:38:40,080 --> 00:38:42,600 Speaker 1: You might have the jaws of life on your truck, 679 00:38:42,760 --> 00:38:45,399 Speaker 1: which I thought about. I even looked at that article 680 00:38:45,480 --> 00:38:48,960 Speaker 1: to see if that was worth doing one on. Well, uh, 681 00:38:49,280 --> 00:38:52,560 Speaker 1: it may just be thirty minutes of us talking about 682 00:38:52,640 --> 00:38:55,760 Speaker 1: how the fact that it is a super high powerful, 683 00:38:55,840 --> 00:38:59,800 Speaker 1: hydraulic powered uh can opener. Okay, so I think the 684 00:39:00,000 --> 00:39:03,719 Speaker 1: sounding very good. It might have been like jackhammers. Okay, no, 685 00:39:03,880 --> 00:39:06,399 Speaker 1: we'll steer clear that. Yeah, but the jaws of life 686 00:39:06,440 --> 00:39:10,600 Speaker 1: everyone knows is that super high powered hydraulic can opener 687 00:39:11,000 --> 00:39:14,520 Speaker 1: that can cut someone out of a car, which is great. Uh. 688 00:39:14,680 --> 00:39:17,520 Speaker 1: Exhaust fans never really thought about that, but um, there 689 00:39:17,560 --> 00:39:19,640 Speaker 1: are a couple of types of fans uh. And exhaust 690 00:39:19,680 --> 00:39:21,960 Speaker 1: fan is when you would put in an entry way 691 00:39:22,040 --> 00:39:25,280 Speaker 1: to suck out smoke. They also have positive pressure fans 692 00:39:25,400 --> 00:39:29,560 Speaker 1: to blow air through and out the other side. And 693 00:39:29,600 --> 00:39:31,520 Speaker 1: I imagine they can work in concert with one another 694 00:39:31,640 --> 00:39:34,320 Speaker 1: depending on their placement. Do you remember Greg who was 695 00:39:34,360 --> 00:39:37,879 Speaker 1: an illustrator for a while too. It's like illustrator day 696 00:39:38,120 --> 00:39:41,040 Speaker 1: that worked with us. Yeah, yeah, yeah, he had a 697 00:39:41,120 --> 00:39:43,600 Speaker 1: house fire and he said, like his house is generally fine, 698 00:39:44,160 --> 00:39:48,280 Speaker 1: but the insurance companies considering totaling his house just because 699 00:39:48,320 --> 00:39:54,000 Speaker 1: of the smoke damage. Yeah, like it just gets everywhere forever. Yeah, 700 00:39:54,120 --> 00:39:56,359 Speaker 1: and you can't do anything about it. It's actually really 701 00:39:56,440 --> 00:39:59,520 Speaker 1: not good for you, yeah, to to like live with 702 00:39:59,719 --> 00:40:02,799 Speaker 1: that as it's dissipating for years and years and years. 703 00:40:02,840 --> 00:40:05,239 Speaker 1: You know, I never really thought about that. You always think, like, 704 00:40:05,440 --> 00:40:08,520 Speaker 1: you know, the structures damaged and compromise, but right, the 705 00:40:08,600 --> 00:40:12,480 Speaker 1: structure can be intact and the smoke can can total 706 00:40:12,560 --> 00:40:15,120 Speaker 1: a house. I when I worked as a p A, 707 00:40:15,239 --> 00:40:17,880 Speaker 1: I did an errand one time for a very uh 708 00:40:18,120 --> 00:40:22,440 Speaker 1: not wealthy, but pretty rich producer to his condo in 709 00:40:22,520 --> 00:40:26,000 Speaker 1: Santa Monica, which had to have caused like a couple 710 00:40:26,000 --> 00:40:29,160 Speaker 1: of million bucks. And I walked in by myself. He 711 00:40:29,200 --> 00:40:32,400 Speaker 1: wasn't there gaming the keys, and it was the stinkiest. 712 00:40:32,800 --> 00:40:36,440 Speaker 1: He was a smoke cigarette smoker, and he had been 713 00:40:36,480 --> 00:40:39,080 Speaker 1: smoking in that place with the window shut for years. 714 00:40:39,840 --> 00:40:44,719 Speaker 1: And this two million dollar sweet ocean view condo was 715 00:40:44,840 --> 00:40:48,239 Speaker 1: the most discuss It smelled like a bar, like the 716 00:40:48,320 --> 00:40:51,719 Speaker 1: next morning was ruined, ruined, And I just can't imagine, like, 717 00:40:53,360 --> 00:40:55,719 Speaker 1: I mean, do you desensitive used used to smoke? It 718 00:40:55,760 --> 00:40:58,080 Speaker 1: doesn't matter was he not notice it or just not care? No, 719 00:40:58,200 --> 00:41:00,680 Speaker 1: he doesn't notice it. Interesting, he has not knows it. 720 00:41:00,800 --> 00:41:03,040 Speaker 1: Maybe if he comes back from a vacation or something, 721 00:41:03,120 --> 00:41:05,040 Speaker 1: you might be like, oh it smells a little like 722 00:41:05,640 --> 00:41:09,359 Speaker 1: vaguely smokey. I better get it going again or something. Man, 723 00:41:09,480 --> 00:41:12,279 Speaker 1: it was so stale and gross man like, yeah, like 724 00:41:12,440 --> 00:41:14,239 Speaker 1: for any if he wants to sell it, you would 725 00:41:14,280 --> 00:41:16,680 Speaker 1: have to sell it to a smoker, because any savvy 726 00:41:16,800 --> 00:41:20,520 Speaker 1: person who understands the health risks of that is like this, 727 00:41:20,760 --> 00:41:22,880 Speaker 1: this place is done. You would have to pull up 728 00:41:22,920 --> 00:41:26,560 Speaker 1: the floors, pull out the wall um, pull out the ceiling, 729 00:41:27,000 --> 00:41:32,120 Speaker 1: just strip it to its bones. Yeah, I'm scratch remember 730 00:41:32,160 --> 00:41:37,480 Speaker 1: thinking man and he had a balcony. It's like it's 731 00:41:37,520 --> 00:41:43,000 Speaker 1: so lazy. Uh. What else do they have? Bolt cutter, sledgehammers, chainsaws, 732 00:41:44,080 --> 00:41:45,920 Speaker 1: small ladders? You know you see him running with a 733 00:41:46,000 --> 00:41:48,000 Speaker 1: ladder over their shoulder like a ten or twelve footer. 734 00:41:48,400 --> 00:41:50,960 Speaker 1: They still have those little guys. Uh, And it's all 735 00:41:51,080 --> 00:41:53,799 Speaker 1: very useful. They basically have everything. A lot of them 736 00:41:53,840 --> 00:41:57,640 Speaker 1: have E M. S equipment or repelling rope. It's just 737 00:41:57,840 --> 00:42:01,280 Speaker 1: like everything you can think of. Yeah, basically to save lives. 738 00:42:01,440 --> 00:42:03,360 Speaker 1: That's why you'll see like a fire truck at the 739 00:42:03,400 --> 00:42:05,360 Speaker 1: scene of like a heart attack or something like that, 740 00:42:05,600 --> 00:42:10,439 Speaker 1: because the ambulance might actually not have everything they need 741 00:42:11,160 --> 00:42:14,200 Speaker 1: for a medical emergency, so they'll send the fire truck out, 742 00:42:14,280 --> 00:42:18,000 Speaker 1: which seems like a colossal waste of resources and money. 743 00:42:18,480 --> 00:42:20,759 Speaker 1: But I think I think something you said earlier might 744 00:42:20,840 --> 00:42:23,440 Speaker 1: explain it a little bit. They're a little bit bored. 745 00:42:23,800 --> 00:42:26,960 Speaker 1: Maybe they're like, oh, hard attack, let's go. I'm sure 746 00:42:27,000 --> 00:42:29,719 Speaker 1: it's nothing like that. Okay. What what my hope is 747 00:42:29,760 --> 00:42:31,960 Speaker 1: from the show that we'll hear from firefighters that are like, 748 00:42:33,160 --> 00:42:34,759 Speaker 1: you guys got kind of most of it right, and 749 00:42:34,800 --> 00:42:36,560 Speaker 1: thanks for shining a light on us. It's the best 750 00:42:36,680 --> 00:42:41,960 Speaker 1: we can hope for. Uh have you heard of did 751 00:42:42,000 --> 00:42:44,160 Speaker 1: you look up these tiller trucks? You know that, like 752 00:42:44,320 --> 00:42:48,719 Speaker 1: the coolest job is to drive the back of that thing. Yeah, 753 00:42:48,840 --> 00:42:55,200 Speaker 1: those are called tiller trucks and tiller drivers, uh drive them. 754 00:42:55,360 --> 00:42:59,319 Speaker 1: And it's a little cockpit, one person cockpit. I got 755 00:42:59,400 --> 00:43:02,719 Speaker 1: this from Hot Odd magazine. And you have to, of course, 756 00:43:02,760 --> 00:43:05,520 Speaker 1: take a certification test to make sure you can drive it. 757 00:43:06,560 --> 00:43:09,040 Speaker 1: And as everyone knows, or maybe you may not know this, 758 00:43:09,239 --> 00:43:11,839 Speaker 1: but the whole trick to those things. Is you gotta 759 00:43:11,840 --> 00:43:14,000 Speaker 1: steer the You gotta get into your head that you 760 00:43:14,080 --> 00:43:17,239 Speaker 1: steer opposite. So when you're making a right hand turn 761 00:43:17,400 --> 00:43:21,000 Speaker 1: up front, um, you've got to turn that wheel left. 762 00:43:21,440 --> 00:43:23,680 Speaker 1: I could not do this. They don't have that kind 763 00:43:23,719 --> 00:43:26,160 Speaker 1: of coordination. It would be tough. Huh yeah, as you 764 00:43:26,239 --> 00:43:28,080 Speaker 1: do it, yeah, I mean I think you get used 765 00:43:28,120 --> 00:43:30,680 Speaker 1: to it if that's your job, Like you wouldn't want 766 00:43:30,680 --> 00:43:33,120 Speaker 1: to be like right again. But when you're driving your car, 767 00:43:33,200 --> 00:43:35,719 Speaker 1: you just crashing this stuff all the time. Maybe it 768 00:43:36,719 --> 00:43:38,320 Speaker 1: like you gotta be able to flick that switch in 769 00:43:38,360 --> 00:43:41,879 Speaker 1: your head because you know, obviously if they're turning right, 770 00:43:42,200 --> 00:43:44,120 Speaker 1: you're turning that back wheel left. It makes it much 771 00:43:44,160 --> 00:43:47,680 Speaker 1: more maneuverable. And apparently they are as long as they 772 00:43:47,719 --> 00:43:51,759 Speaker 1: are if you've got an experience uh tiller person back there, 773 00:43:52,040 --> 00:43:54,960 Speaker 1: they are really super maneuverable on city street. Well that's 774 00:43:55,000 --> 00:43:57,880 Speaker 1: why they exist. Yeah, It's like it's way easier to 775 00:43:57,960 --> 00:44:00,279 Speaker 1: get a very long truck that's cut into two. They 776 00:44:00,320 --> 00:44:04,319 Speaker 1: can take tight corners rather than one long truck that's 777 00:44:04,480 --> 00:44:07,399 Speaker 1: one you know, one long length of truck. Yeah, that's 778 00:44:07,600 --> 00:44:09,800 Speaker 1: that's the whole reason they're there. I never understood that 779 00:44:09,880 --> 00:44:13,160 Speaker 1: until like yesterday. Yeah, and apparently they really work well, 780 00:44:13,560 --> 00:44:17,080 Speaker 1: um in in cities especially. Uh. And here's a couple 781 00:44:17,120 --> 00:44:19,480 Speaker 1: of little tricks that I never thought about. There's a 782 00:44:19,640 --> 00:44:22,560 Speaker 1: light on a rod at the on top of the 783 00:44:22,719 --> 00:44:26,360 Speaker 1: front cab and as that's your that's there for the 784 00:44:26,520 --> 00:44:31,120 Speaker 1: tiller driver tiller steerer to look at as their center point. 785 00:44:31,520 --> 00:44:34,080 Speaker 1: Like that's how they center their wheels. And if they 786 00:44:34,160 --> 00:44:36,680 Speaker 1: make a turn, they count because you know, you gotta 787 00:44:36,680 --> 00:44:39,520 Speaker 1: straighten back out afterward. They count like two and a 788 00:44:39,560 --> 00:44:42,120 Speaker 1: half rotations on the wheel for this turn, so two 789 00:44:42,160 --> 00:44:44,399 Speaker 1: and a half back in the other direction to get 790 00:44:44,480 --> 00:44:48,560 Speaker 1: straight again. I'm you're actually making me anxious right now. 791 00:44:48,719 --> 00:44:51,480 Speaker 1: I'm imagining myself having to do this like on the 792 00:44:51,520 --> 00:44:54,319 Speaker 1: way to a fire on a busy city street. Well, 793 00:44:54,320 --> 00:44:56,600 Speaker 1: they're usually apparently the first person of the ladder two, 794 00:44:56,640 --> 00:44:59,200 Speaker 1: So that is not the job for you, tiller driver 795 00:44:59,400 --> 00:45:03,440 Speaker 1: and lader guy. I quit. Yeah. Uh. And it's funny 796 00:45:03,560 --> 00:45:06,440 Speaker 1: they they interviewed and and took a like a coarse 797 00:45:06,520 --> 00:45:10,920 Speaker 1: test the hot rod author and they asked, so you're like, well, 798 00:45:10,960 --> 00:45:14,439 Speaker 1: what happens if if you turn it the wrong way? 799 00:45:14,800 --> 00:45:17,440 Speaker 1: And they're like, well, then you're on the curb and 800 00:45:17,440 --> 00:45:21,719 Speaker 1: you're knocking out cars and people. They're like, it's not good. Um, 801 00:45:22,880 --> 00:45:26,440 Speaker 1: pretty cool though, Yeah, I think they said the Here 802 00:45:26,600 --> 00:45:30,440 Speaker 1: here's another stat the operating angle for a ladder. Normal 803 00:45:30,520 --> 00:45:35,560 Speaker 1: operating angles about six seventy degrees. And the biggest hassle 804 00:45:35,640 --> 00:45:39,440 Speaker 1: of the ladders is uh wiring. Oh I could I 805 00:45:39,560 --> 00:45:41,759 Speaker 1: ail bet anything about that? You don't want to get 806 00:45:41,800 --> 00:45:47,520 Speaker 1: it tangled up? And no? No, good, very interesting. Don't 807 00:45:47,520 --> 00:45:50,160 Speaker 1: got anything else. I'm fired twalks. No, I want to 808 00:45:50,280 --> 00:45:53,480 Speaker 1: try out tiller truck. I wonder if they let civilians 809 00:45:53,560 --> 00:45:56,480 Speaker 1: like us just like get out in a big, close 810 00:45:56,560 --> 00:45:59,759 Speaker 1: down parking lot. It probably depends on, um, the level 811 00:45:59,800 --> 00:46:01,800 Speaker 1: of corruption of the mayor of the town that the 812 00:46:01,920 --> 00:46:04,520 Speaker 1: fire truck lives in. Well, they let the hot Rod 813 00:46:04,600 --> 00:46:07,359 Speaker 1: magazine guy do it. Oh he's a journal Yeah that's 814 00:46:07,400 --> 00:46:09,040 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Like they cooked it up for like 815 00:46:09,120 --> 00:46:11,439 Speaker 1: we could probably cook up a reason. Right. Yeah, we'll 816 00:46:11,480 --> 00:46:14,680 Speaker 1: be like, uh, we're doing another episode on fire trucks 817 00:46:14,719 --> 00:46:16,920 Speaker 1: and we need to do this tillar tests. Yeah, and 818 00:46:17,040 --> 00:46:20,720 Speaker 1: they went, don't you mean fire twalks? Like you're speaking 819 00:46:20,760 --> 00:46:23,640 Speaker 1: our language, buddy. If you want to know more about 820 00:46:23,680 --> 00:46:28,200 Speaker 1: fire twalks, go down to your local fire station, maybe 821 00:46:28,600 --> 00:46:30,799 Speaker 1: ask them for some chili. They'll love for They'll love 822 00:46:30,840 --> 00:46:32,400 Speaker 1: you to ask them for a tour. I guarantee you 823 00:46:32,480 --> 00:46:34,320 Speaker 1: they'll if they're not busy, they'll say sure, come on 824 00:46:34,400 --> 00:46:38,200 Speaker 1: in and they'll they'll probably give you some chili without asking. Yeah. Um, 825 00:46:38,360 --> 00:46:41,719 Speaker 1: and since I said chili, it's time for a listener mail, 826 00:46:44,440 --> 00:46:47,600 Speaker 1: I'm gonna call this one on war Masks that I was. 827 00:46:48,400 --> 00:46:51,040 Speaker 1: I thought that was pretty good episode. Hot off the presses. Yes, 828 00:46:51,080 --> 00:46:54,200 Speaker 1: it was a good episode, Chuck, Greetings from Dublin. Hey guys, 829 00:46:54,280 --> 00:46:57,200 Speaker 1: fairly recent listener. I moved to Ireland from the UK 830 00:46:57,280 --> 00:46:59,200 Speaker 1: about a year ago, and not knowing many people, you 831 00:46:59,239 --> 00:47:02,279 Speaker 1: guys have kept me uh provided a real comfort for me. 832 00:47:03,480 --> 00:47:05,200 Speaker 1: I just listened to the episode on war mass something 833 00:47:05,239 --> 00:47:07,120 Speaker 1: already kind of knew about. I used to work for 834 00:47:07,160 --> 00:47:10,080 Speaker 1: a publisher specializing in military history, and while I found 835 00:47:10,120 --> 00:47:12,640 Speaker 1: the glorification of war it's sickening, it was weird. It 836 00:47:12,760 --> 00:47:16,320 Speaker 1: was weirdly interesting to me, the effective injury mental and 837 00:47:16,440 --> 00:47:19,239 Speaker 1: physical on the on the soldiers. We published a book 838 00:47:19,239 --> 00:47:24,440 Speaker 1: called The Whistlers Room about so called uh deformed German soldiers, 839 00:47:24,960 --> 00:47:26,879 Speaker 1: and she puts that in quotes as if to say, 840 00:47:27,000 --> 00:47:31,040 Speaker 1: you know, it's not the proper nomenclature. Yeah, getting medical 841 00:47:31,080 --> 00:47:33,879 Speaker 1: treatment at a hospital before heading back out into the wider, 842 00:47:34,120 --> 00:47:36,960 Speaker 1: wider world. The men were called whistlers because due to 843 00:47:37,000 --> 00:47:39,080 Speaker 1: the injury, they could not breathe through their mouths or noses, 844 00:47:39,560 --> 00:47:42,800 Speaker 1: instead had holes cut in their throats, which created a 845 00:47:42,800 --> 00:47:45,160 Speaker 1: whistling noise. The book, in turn led me to a 846 00:47:45,239 --> 00:47:49,279 Speaker 1: film called The Officers Award. It's a French film h 847 00:47:49,400 --> 00:47:54,160 Speaker 1: les Chambre the Officia based on a novel based on 848 00:47:54,200 --> 00:47:57,080 Speaker 1: a true story and following a French military engineer who 849 00:47:57,080 --> 00:47:59,520 Speaker 1: suffered extreme injury to his space and throat on his 850 00:47:59,600 --> 00:48:01,719 Speaker 1: first day of action in World War One, and his 851 00:48:01,840 --> 00:48:08,600 Speaker 1: treatment involved facial trauma, uh and a war mask. The engenuity, ingenuity, compassion, 852 00:48:08,640 --> 00:48:11,600 Speaker 1: and perseverance showed by the doctors and nurses was apparently 853 00:48:11,719 --> 00:48:14,920 Speaker 1: very accurate as where the treatment shown. It is utterly compelling, 854 00:48:15,239 --> 00:48:19,440 Speaker 1: heartbreaking and I recommend it. That is from Hanna mc adams. 855 00:48:19,960 --> 00:48:23,799 Speaker 1: Keep up the cracking work. Love that. Uh So it's 856 00:48:23,800 --> 00:48:25,799 Speaker 1: called The Officer's Award French film. I'm gonna check it out, 857 00:48:25,880 --> 00:48:31,319 Speaker 1: yeah for sure, or the schenbre The Office their let's 858 00:48:31,320 --> 00:48:34,000 Speaker 1: try to Okay, I think you did it better, Chuck. 859 00:48:34,160 --> 00:48:38,359 Speaker 1: Good work, Thanks Hannah. Great name to Hannah McAdams, kind 860 00:48:38,360 --> 00:48:41,040 Speaker 1: of like rolls off the tongue like a punch. If 861 00:48:41,080 --> 00:48:42,600 Speaker 1: you want to get in touch with us, like Hannah 862 00:48:42,640 --> 00:48:45,840 Speaker 1: McAdams did, you can find us at stuff you Should 863 00:48:45,840 --> 00:48:48,120 Speaker 1: Know dot com. 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