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Speaker 1: Welcome into lounge presented by DraftKings. I'm Ryan Mink here

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Speaker 1: with Garrett Downing, and we are going to give you

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Speaker 1: the latest updates on the Ravens search for the next

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Speaker 1: head coach. We have confirmed interviews, five of them so far,

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Speaker 1: two more reported interviews today on Monday, as well as

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Speaker 1: other reported requested interviews. So the Ravens are casting a

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Speaker 1: wide net here, Garrett. Right now, there's in addition to

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Speaker 1: the five like I said, that are confirmed and two more,

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Speaker 1: so that's seven. Then there's six other reported interviews, so

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Speaker 1: we're up to thirteen right now.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and just to run through the list of interviews

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Speaker 2: who have been the team has announced that these have

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Speaker 2: been conducted. Those are with Broncos defensive coordinator Vance Joseph,

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Speaker 2: Broncos past game coordinator Davis Webb, Seahawks offensive cornator Clint Kubiak,

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Speaker 2: former Browns head coach Chemis Stefanski, and Chiefs offensive coordinator

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Speaker 1: And then there's two more reported interviews today that's with

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Speaker 1: yet reportedly are with former Dolphins head coach Mike McDaniel,

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Speaker 1: Chargers defensive coordinator Jesse Minter, Bill's offensive coordinator Joe Brady,

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Speaker 1: Brian Flores, and Rams pass game coordinator Nate Schielhas.

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Speaker 2: So I think my big picture takeaway and looking at that,

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Speaker 2: is that the Raves are being really thorough in their

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Speaker 2: process here. And we talked about this at the end

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Speaker 2: of last week when the initial round of interviews was reported,

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Speaker 2: making the point that the Raves are going to have

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Speaker 2: a exhaustive and thorough process. I still think that this

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Speaker 2: is I think this is the top job on the market,

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Speaker 2: and there's a lot of interested parties who would love

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Speaker 2: the opportunity to come coaches team coach Lamar Jackson and

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Speaker 2: work for Steve b Ashatti and work alongside Eric Tacasta. Like,

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Speaker 2: there's a lot of interest in this job, as you

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Speaker 2: would expect, and so the Ravens want to make sure

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Speaker 2: that they do their due diligence in finding the right

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Speaker 2: person for this job at this time. It's also when

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Speaker 2: you look at this list that's been reported there's a balance.

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Speaker 2: You have some candidates who have been head coaches previously,

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Speaker 2: like Kevin Stefanski and Matt Aggie, Vance.

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Speaker 3: Joseph Yeah, you also a bunch of them.

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Speaker 2: You also have coaches who are up and coming that

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Speaker 2: a lot of people probably didn't know their names necessarily

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Speaker 2: coaching opportunities. Young rising coaches, you know, guys.

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Speaker 3: Like Davis Webb.

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Speaker 2: Davis web those would be at the top of that

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Speaker 2: a future one. But it's they're interesting guys to talk to,

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Speaker 2: and so you have this combination. You also have guys

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Speaker 2: there's when you when you think about what does the

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Speaker 2: profile look like of the Ravens next head coach, when

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Speaker 2: you look at the list of report of candidates, there's

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Speaker 2: not like one quality that stands out as this is

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I totally agree with that. It's it's all over

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Speaker 1: the map. No, no special teams coordinators.

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Speaker 2: That's true, that's true.

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Speaker 3: I mean we don't want to run we could run

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Speaker 2: And well, that's true. That's a good point.

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Speaker 1: You know, it's it's really hard to say what the

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Speaker 1: Everybody's a Ravens fan. Is all right, what's the best

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Speaker 1: Who do you attract all those different factors. Do you

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Speaker 3: Coach, And so those are kind of the things you're weighing.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think there's a lot. I've said this before.

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Speaker 2: I don't think the Eves are going to be so

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Speaker 2: that that could be somebody that's been a head coach previously.

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Speaker 2: this process. On Tuesday afternoon, we're going to hear from

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Speaker 2: owner StEB Ashadi and Eric Tacosta. They're doing a press

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Speaker 2: conference Tuesday at two pm. Certainly this is going to

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Speaker 2: what ultimately led to the decision to move on from

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Speaker 1: Absolutely, So let's just talk about some of these candidates

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Speaker 1: that we in our previous episode. We had some reports already,

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Speaker 1: So one that we had not talked about previously was

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Speaker 1: Kevin Stefanski, the former Brown's head coach.

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Speaker 3: This is a two time Coach of the Year.

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Speaker 1: He had a long tenure six years in Cleveland, which

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Speaker 1: He had he had a couple of really good eleven

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Speaker 2: What really altered his tenure there in Cleveland was a

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Speaker 1: The Browns had thirteen different starting quarterbacks during Stefanski senire.

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Speaker 2: That's tough. It's tough to win when you're cycling through

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Speaker 2: The Deshaun Watson piece was a huge contract. There was trade,

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Speaker 2: He also is offensive. Mind. He's a former offensive coordinator.

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Speaker 2: He called plays at times during his time.

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Speaker 1: Background, you would assume that he would probably be the

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Speaker 1: Chiefs offensive coordinator Matt Nagy. And you know, here's a

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Speaker 2: on the list here. We did talk about Anthony Weaver previously.

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Speaker 2: Well. I think a couple of points on Mike McDaniel.

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Speaker 2: So I've seen all right, go get Robert Sala. It

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Speaker 2: Go get Robert Sliz your head coach, and make Mike

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Speaker 2: Right So he's got multiple head coach interviews and at

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Speaker 1: blows up from the charges. I mean he had three

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Speaker 1: sacks in their playoff loss, And so that will catch

438
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Speaker 1: people's attention to and say, this guy is good at

439
00:21:17,520 --> 00:21:20,639
Speaker 1: unlocking players, and I think he's going to be a

440
00:21:20,640 --> 00:21:21,720
Speaker 1: pretty popular candidate.

441
00:21:21,840 --> 00:21:25,400
Speaker 2: Won a national championship with Michigan in college, so he's

442
00:21:25,440 --> 00:21:28,760
Speaker 2: got a lot of credentials and the familiarity with this

443
00:21:28,840 --> 00:21:31,840
Speaker 2: program I think matters to a certain degree. The same

444
00:21:31,840 --> 00:21:34,440
Speaker 2: thing goes for Anthony Weaver and having success and grew

445
00:21:34,520 --> 00:21:36,320
Speaker 2: up in this system, in this program and has a

446
00:21:36,920 --> 00:21:38,840
Speaker 2: lot of people that like him in this building. I

447
00:21:38,840 --> 00:21:41,000
Speaker 2: think all that matters to a certain extent.

448
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Speaker 1: I also add that I don't think that being part

449
00:21:44,080 --> 00:21:47,600
Speaker 1: of the John Harball coaching tree would preclude the Ravens

450
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Speaker 1: certainly from saying we'll bring him back. Like the John

451
00:21:52,359 --> 00:21:55,919
Speaker 1: Harball coaching tree was pretty darn strong tree had some

452
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Speaker 1: deep roots.

453
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Speaker 3: And it bloomed.

454
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Speaker 1: Yeah, right, And so I don't think it's not like

455
00:22:02,520 --> 00:22:05,800
Speaker 1: Harve's left here on bad terms or something and they

456
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Speaker 1: felt like he wasn't a good coach and we don't

457
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Speaker 1: want any piece of that. Right, No, it's a different guy.

458
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Speaker 1: But like he learned very valuable things from John Harball

459
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Speaker 1: and that he would bring back to the job. And

460
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Speaker 1: he knows, he knows the Ravens culture and what it's

461
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Speaker 1: about here. He would have a leg up in that

462
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Speaker 1: regard of just kind of you can hit the ground

463
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Speaker 1: running to a degree here.

464
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Speaker 2: Next one on this list here that's been reported is

465
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Speaker 2: Bill's offensive coordinator Joe Brady. And he's been with the

466
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Speaker 2: Bills the last couple of years. Before that, where he

467
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Speaker 2: really kind of jumped onto the scene was back in college.

468
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Speaker 2: He was the offensive coordinator for LSU Joe year with

469
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Speaker 2: Joe Burrow when they won the National Championship and took

470
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Speaker 2: Joe Burrow from came in as a transfer from Ohio State,

471
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Speaker 2: and that not a ton of people knew, and all

472
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Speaker 2: of a sudden, Joe Burrow was lights out and won

473
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Speaker 2: the highest trophy and they won the national championship and

474
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Speaker 2: he was a number one overall pick, and Joe Brady

475
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Speaker 2: was the one kind of the man in the booth behind,

476
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Speaker 2: you know, the offense that season. And so he's been

477
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Speaker 2: he's been dialing up the plays for Josh Allen and

478
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Speaker 2: the Bills offense the last couple of years. So he's

479
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Speaker 2: he's a talented offensive coach who's looking for his first

480
00:23:12,840 --> 00:23:15,200
Speaker 2: head coaching opportunity as well, and so he's got a

481
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Speaker 2: lot of He's had a lot of success at different

482
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Speaker 2: stops along the way. Obviously has worked with the premiere

483
00:23:20,520 --> 00:23:22,479
Speaker 2: player in Josh Allen, and I think that he's going

484
00:23:22,520 --> 00:23:24,919
Speaker 2: to get a lot of looks at this cycle. Obviously

485
00:23:24,960 --> 00:23:28,920
Speaker 2: they're still playing here in the postseason, but he's a

486
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Speaker 2: he's a definitely an interesting name if you're looking at

487
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Speaker 2: that offensive coach mindset.

488
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Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, and it's interesting he has a connection to

489
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Speaker 1: Davis Webb. The Broncos pass game, coordinator who the Ravens

490
00:23:42,119 --> 00:23:47,440
Speaker 1: already interviewed, and the back when they were both together

491
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Speaker 1: with Buffalo, Davis web still as.

492
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Speaker 3: A player they wanted to hire.

493
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Speaker 1: They wanted Davis Webb to retire so that they could

494
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Speaker 1: hire him as their quarterbacks coach.

495
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Speaker 3: Davis Webb decided to play.

496
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Speaker 1: One more year, so they instead gave the job to

497
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Speaker 1: Joe Brady and that's when he became the quarterbacks coach

498
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Speaker 1: there and then ultimately I think he went to Carolina

499
00:24:08,480 --> 00:24:12,480
Speaker 1: and now back to Buffalo as their OC. And yeah,

500
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Speaker 1: I mean this. This Bill's offense has been pretty darn good.

501
00:24:16,440 --> 00:24:20,399
Speaker 1: Really good run game. They had James Cook led the

502
00:24:20,480 --> 00:24:22,920
Speaker 1: league in rushing this year. They had the top rushing

503
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Speaker 1: attack in the league, really good at spreading the ball around.

504
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Speaker 1: You look at their targets and receptions and it's he

505
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Speaker 1: does a good job of getting everybody involved.

506
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Speaker 3: Josh Allen has been awesome.

507
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I tell you, I watched that playoff game against

508
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Speaker 1: the Jags, and I like some of the schemed up

509
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Speaker 1: things in critical moments. You see creativity with Joe Brady

510
00:24:44,000 --> 00:24:46,800
Speaker 1: and his offense, and they're you know, I think that

511
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Speaker 1: that's larte. It takes that in That was one of

512
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Speaker 1: my takeaways from wild card weekend and watching those games,

513
00:24:52,440 --> 00:24:54,679
Speaker 1: which they were awesome, is critical moments.

514
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Speaker 3: You better bring something.

515
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Speaker 1: Fresh to the table and it better be highly schemed

516
00:24:58,520 --> 00:25:01,159
Speaker 1: up and that you're like got to catch them on something.

517
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Speaker 1: And I mean just look at the trick played from

518
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Speaker 1: the forty nine ers and throwing the ball to Christian

519
00:25:05,920 --> 00:25:08,640
Speaker 1: McCaffrey with the wide receiver Ye Jennings, and so.

520
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Speaker 3: I like that from Joe Brady standpoint.

521
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Speaker 2: Well, you mentioned the forty nine ers. Robert Solo, the

522
00:25:14,200 --> 00:25:18,480
Speaker 2: defensive coordinator, is reportedly on the list, and there's lots

523
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Speaker 2: to like about the what you saw from the forty

524
00:25:19,960 --> 00:25:22,400
Speaker 2: nine ers defense up against the Eagles offense.

525
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Speaker 1: And you're down to their fifth and strict sixth string linebackers.

526
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Speaker 1: I mean, they have been ravaged by injuries and you're

527
00:25:28,840 --> 00:25:30,880
Speaker 1: still playing pretty pretty solid ball.

528
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Speaker 2: Yeah, they're in the divisional round of the playoffs. Fred Warrener,

529
00:25:33,119 --> 00:25:35,040
Speaker 2: their middle linebacker who's kind of the heart and soul

530
00:25:35,080 --> 00:25:36,600
Speaker 2: guy of that team, has been out for most of

531
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Speaker 2: the season. Nick Bosa went down early in the season

532
00:25:39,640 --> 00:25:41,879
Speaker 2: and has missed the majority of it. But so you

533
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Speaker 2: have your basically your your best two players gone for

534
00:25:44,400 --> 00:25:46,880
Speaker 2: the season, yet you're still playing at a really high level.

535
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Speaker 2: Go on the road and get a win against the

536
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Speaker 2: defendinge champs. And I know the Eagles have had issues

537
00:25:53,119 --> 00:25:56,480
Speaker 2: this year on offense in particular, but it was a

538
00:25:56,520 --> 00:25:58,960
Speaker 2: really strong showing by that forty nine Ers defense on

539
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Speaker 2: the road to beat the And I think that's part

540
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Speaker 2: of the reason that that Robert sala is an attractive

541
00:26:04,400 --> 00:26:06,959
Speaker 2: Candidate's he's got He's always had great defenses when he's

542
00:26:07,000 --> 00:26:08,280
Speaker 2: with the forty nine ers, even when he was with

543
00:26:08,320 --> 00:26:10,480
Speaker 2: the Jets as the head coach, and when he was

544
00:26:10,520 --> 00:26:13,240
Speaker 2: in New York the ten years didn't go the way

545
00:26:13,280 --> 00:26:14,720
Speaker 2: that you know he would have wanted. They brought an

546
00:26:14,720 --> 00:26:16,639
Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers and that didn't work out, and there was

547
00:26:16,680 --> 00:26:20,400
Speaker 2: obviously a lot around that. But his defenses were good

548
00:26:20,680 --> 00:26:22,960
Speaker 2: in New York, and they were good in San Francisco

549
00:26:23,040 --> 00:26:27,120
Speaker 2: as good again this year. And so if you want

550
00:26:27,160 --> 00:26:29,080
Speaker 2: to go the route of a defensive coach that's had

551
00:26:29,080 --> 00:26:31,560
Speaker 2: a lot of success, he fits that mold.

552
00:26:31,359 --> 00:26:34,600
Speaker 1: High floor from a defensive perspective seemingly. And the experience

553
00:26:34,640 --> 00:26:37,000
Speaker 1: as a head coach exactly. And another one of these

554
00:26:37,000 --> 00:26:39,359
Speaker 1: guys where you say, man they were in a tough

555
00:26:39,400 --> 00:26:42,879
Speaker 1: situation as a head coach, They didn't have a quarterback,

556
00:26:42,920 --> 00:26:46,040
Speaker 1: they were you know, these organizations that really you were

557
00:26:46,359 --> 00:26:49,840
Speaker 1: turning the Titanic to a degree, right, organizations that had

558
00:26:49,840 --> 00:26:50,880
Speaker 1: not had much success.

559
00:26:50,920 --> 00:26:52,840
Speaker 3: And really that's tough. It's tough.

560
00:26:53,119 --> 00:26:56,000
Speaker 1: Sometimes you have success doing that and sometimes you don't.

561
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Speaker 1: And with those guys like Guess Ski and with a

562
00:27:01,480 --> 00:27:04,800
Speaker 1: Robert Sala, uh you know, you look at it and say,

563
00:27:04,840 --> 00:27:06,720
Speaker 1: all right, if you put him in a better situation

564
00:27:06,960 --> 00:27:08,360
Speaker 1: with what could they do here?

565
00:27:09,200 --> 00:27:12,800
Speaker 3: And uh, yeah, I like Roberts high MJ. Dude.

566
00:27:12,880 --> 00:27:15,399
Speaker 1: You watch him on the sidelines and he is he

567
00:27:15,600 --> 00:27:18,240
Speaker 1: is into it, yeah, I mean cheering a lot. And

568
00:27:18,520 --> 00:27:21,239
Speaker 1: so Salo will be a very interesting hire, especially if

569
00:27:21,240 --> 00:27:23,920
Speaker 1: he could bring, you know, an offensive guy with him

570
00:27:24,000 --> 00:27:25,359
Speaker 1: to kind of pair him with.

571
00:27:25,760 --> 00:27:25,920
Speaker 3: Yep.

572
00:27:26,280 --> 00:27:28,600
Speaker 2: Another one that's former head coach. We mentioned him in

573
00:27:28,680 --> 00:27:32,040
Speaker 2: our in our last podcast podcast, Brian Flores, former head

574
00:27:32,040 --> 00:27:34,439
Speaker 2: coach of the Miami Dolphins. A couple of former Dolphins

575
00:27:34,480 --> 00:27:39,520
Speaker 2: coaches here. He's most recently the Vikings defensive coordinator, since

576
00:27:39,560 --> 00:27:41,480
Speaker 2: we talked about him in depth last week, but just

577
00:27:41,560 --> 00:27:44,879
Speaker 2: quickly on Flores, his defenses have been really good all

578
00:27:45,000 --> 00:27:46,560
Speaker 2: the things we just said about Sala, a lot of

579
00:27:46,640 --> 00:27:49,000
Speaker 2: it pertains to Flores as well. If he's had some

580
00:27:49,119 --> 00:27:52,240
Speaker 2: great defenses, the Ravens have gone up against those defenses

581
00:27:52,280 --> 00:27:54,320
Speaker 2: over the years when he was with Miami and again

582
00:27:54,359 --> 00:27:57,840
Speaker 2: this year when he's the defensive coordinator of the Vikings

583
00:27:58,200 --> 00:28:01,000
Speaker 2: and there are stout units. He went from Minnesota, then

584
00:28:01,040 --> 00:28:04,000
Speaker 2: he was an assistant coach on Mike Tomlin's staff in Pittsburgh,

585
00:28:04,280 --> 00:28:06,080
Speaker 2: and then he's been with the Vikings for the last

586
00:28:06,240 --> 00:28:09,879
Speaker 2: few years. And yeah, he'll have that defense playing at

587
00:28:09,920 --> 00:28:14,240
Speaker 2: a high level and has learned from experience being a

588
00:28:14,280 --> 00:28:16,760
Speaker 2: head coach has that as well. And so if you

589
00:28:16,840 --> 00:28:20,040
Speaker 2: want to have a defensive minded coach again, that could

590
00:28:20,080 --> 00:28:22,160
Speaker 2: help elevate that unit. Flores fits the bill.

591
00:28:22,400 --> 00:28:22,560
Speaker 3: Yep.

592
00:28:22,720 --> 00:28:25,840
Speaker 1: And then lastly, let's talk about two Rams assistant coaches

593
00:28:25,920 --> 00:28:28,960
Speaker 1: who are now interviewing for the Ravens head coaching job.

594
00:28:29,040 --> 00:28:34,120
Speaker 1: According to reports, Nathan Shielhas, who is their past game

595
00:28:34,280 --> 00:28:37,960
Speaker 1: coordinator this year in Los Angeles, thirty five years old.

596
00:28:39,000 --> 00:28:41,760
Speaker 1: You know, this is a former college quarterback who is

597
00:28:41,920 --> 00:28:44,960
Speaker 1: now The question is is he the next branch off

598
00:28:45,160 --> 00:28:49,880
Speaker 1: the Sean McVay coaching tree. Everybody kind of everybody around

599
00:28:49,880 --> 00:28:51,840
Speaker 1: the NFL seems to want the next Sean McVay for

600
00:28:51,960 --> 00:28:54,920
Speaker 1: good reason. He's been awesome, right, He at the time

601
00:28:55,080 --> 00:28:59,360
Speaker 1: was the youngest head coach ever. Yeah, and had a

602
00:28:59,440 --> 00:29:04,720
Speaker 1: ton of out there and great brilliant offensive mind. Here's

603
00:29:04,800 --> 00:29:07,480
Speaker 1: his past game coordinator in a year coming off a

604
00:29:07,600 --> 00:29:11,560
Speaker 1: year in which Matthew Stafford could be the MVP. They're

605
00:29:11,760 --> 00:29:14,160
Speaker 1: the top passing attack in the league in terms of

606
00:29:14,240 --> 00:29:18,680
Speaker 1: yards per game, and so Nathan Schielhass, you know, this

607
00:29:18,840 --> 00:29:21,440
Speaker 1: would be fit in the up and comer kind of

608
00:29:21,520 --> 00:29:22,360
Speaker 1: category here.

609
00:29:23,280 --> 00:29:24,920
Speaker 3: Could he be the guy? Yeah?

610
00:29:25,160 --> 00:29:27,960
Speaker 2: I think a few years ago Matt Lafleur when he

611
00:29:28,000 --> 00:29:30,240
Speaker 2: got hired, he was one of the first to get

612
00:29:30,320 --> 00:29:33,960
Speaker 2: hired from the Sean McVay tree. And he's had a

613
00:29:34,000 --> 00:29:37,040
Speaker 2: good run with Green Bay. And I know it didn't

614
00:29:37,120 --> 00:29:39,880
Speaker 2: end well this weekend, you know, with with their performance,

615
00:29:40,040 --> 00:29:41,600
Speaker 2: you know, but he's been a good coach there in

616
00:29:41,680 --> 00:29:45,560
Speaker 2: Green Bay. And there was a period there where it

617
00:29:45,560 --> 00:29:47,840
Speaker 2: felt like everybody was looking at the at the Rams

618
00:29:47,920 --> 00:29:50,160
Speaker 2: staff as like, Okay, who can we get that's had

619
00:29:50,240 --> 00:29:52,400
Speaker 2: some sort of connection here to Sean McVay.

620
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Speaker 3: Exactly, if you had a couple of coffee with Sean

621
00:29:54,240 --> 00:29:55,440
Speaker 3: McVay you were getting interviewed.

622
00:29:55,480 --> 00:29:58,880
Speaker 2: He felled that way. And sheilhas is a guy that's

623
00:29:59,080 --> 00:30:03,480
Speaker 2: that's learned direct under him and has been a big

624
00:30:03,600 --> 00:30:06,400
Speaker 2: piece of that offensive success. And so I would put

625
00:30:06,480 --> 00:30:09,840
Speaker 2: him in that intriguing category. And look, when McVeigh got

626
00:30:09,880 --> 00:30:13,640
Speaker 2: that job with the Rams coming out of Washington, it

627
00:30:13,760 --> 00:30:16,560
Speaker 2: was not like, oh, he's he's the clear top candidate.

628
00:30:16,560 --> 00:30:18,600
Speaker 2: I think that turned a lot of people said said, wait,

629
00:30:18,640 --> 00:30:22,120
Speaker 2: who how old is he didn't expect that And obviously

630
00:30:22,240 --> 00:30:24,920
Speaker 2: it has worked out. And so I think a lot

631
00:30:24,920 --> 00:30:26,720
Speaker 2: of teams are looking for who could be that next

632
00:30:26,760 --> 00:30:29,320
Speaker 2: guy and and this could be a candidate there.

633
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Speaker 1: And then also like a big, big connection, he coached

634
00:30:32,560 --> 00:30:35,000
Speaker 1: Charlie Kohler at Iowa State. There you go, he was

635
00:30:35,040 --> 00:30:36,920
Speaker 1: the offensive coordinator at Iowa State. You can get the

636
00:30:37,080 --> 00:30:38,120
Speaker 1: Charlie Kohler connection.

637
00:30:38,400 --> 00:30:41,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, you can bring it to Baltimore. And then also

638
00:30:41,880 --> 00:30:44,800
Speaker 2: sticking with the Rams, Chris Shula their defensive coordinator. They've

639
00:30:44,800 --> 00:30:48,040
Speaker 2: had a really good defense. And uh Shula comes from

640
00:30:48,040 --> 00:30:52,320
Speaker 2: football royalty. His his his grandfather was Don Shula, the

641
00:30:52,920 --> 00:30:55,360
Speaker 2: coach of the Miami Dolphins. You know, the only undefeated team,

642
00:30:55,400 --> 00:30:59,840
Speaker 2: and he also is getting interviews as interview requests elsewhere

643
00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:02,520
Speaker 2: the league too, so a lot of people are interested

644
00:31:02,520 --> 00:31:05,200
Speaker 2: in him. Shechielhouse two has gotten some other interviews, and

645
00:31:05,440 --> 00:31:10,640
Speaker 2: both those guys are garnering attention specifically with Shula. Like,

646
00:31:10,720 --> 00:31:12,880
Speaker 2: they've had really good defenses. I know, when you think

647
00:31:12,920 --> 00:31:15,280
Speaker 2: of the you think of the Rams, you think Sean McVay,

648
00:31:15,320 --> 00:31:18,720
Speaker 2: you think Matthew Stafford, Pugnacua like offense, offense, offense, but

649
00:31:19,400 --> 00:31:21,960
Speaker 2: he has helped that defense play at a high level,

650
00:31:22,160 --> 00:31:25,160
Speaker 2: take young players like Jared Verse and and help maximize

651
00:31:25,160 --> 00:31:26,920
Speaker 2: their talents. I think there's a lot to like about

652
00:31:26,920 --> 00:31:28,120
Speaker 2: what they have done defensively.

653
00:31:28,280 --> 00:31:31,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, they finished seventh in Sex this past year. They

654
00:31:31,280 --> 00:31:33,760
Speaker 1: jumped from twenty sixth in the league and yards allowed

655
00:31:33,800 --> 00:31:35,880
Speaker 1: to seventeenth this past year.

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Speaker 3: And so yeah, and grew up in football family.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it would not surprise me if that is one

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Speaker 1: trait that the Steve Bashatti and Eric Costa like. Obviously

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Speaker 1: John Harball had it and the Ravens saw the benefit

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Speaker 1: I think, you know, Clint qbac has that as well.

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Speaker 1: A bunch of these guys that attractive.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, no doubt. So let's take a quick break. When

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Speaker 3: Nice bon Yeah.

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Speaker 2: John asked about the coaching search and he said his

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Speaker 2: top two candidates are Vance Joseph from the Broncos. We

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Speaker 2: talked about him in depth on our last episode, and

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Speaker 2: Clint Kubiak from the Seahawks talked about him a lot

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Speaker 2: as well. But he said that for my family and

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Speaker 2: I have been Ravens fans for sixteen years, i don't

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Speaker 2: know a head coach other than John Harbaugh, so I'm

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Speaker 2: not even sure what the team will look like or

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Speaker 2: feel like without him. I've got tremendous respect for him.

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Speaker 2: I hope he ends up in the Hall of Fame

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Speaker 2: one day. It is an interesting thought, like a lot

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Speaker 2: of fans like have only known this team with John

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Speaker 2: Harbaugh as the head coach, kids who have grown up

705
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Speaker 2: rooting for this team, and it's interesting to think about

706
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Speaker 2: what the Ravens will look like without him.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that they'll look like the Ravens.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, I mean I have faith in this

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Speaker 1: organization that and this applies to all of us, right, Like,

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Speaker 1: as much as all of us are a big part

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Speaker 1: of this operation and we think like we're indispensable. Garrett, someday,

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Speaker 1: my friend man, you know, or or may the Lounge

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Speaker 1: will continue without us potentially, you know, and Bryson will

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Speaker 1: be taken over, you know, maybe he'll be a host,

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Speaker 1: you know, Like that's just kind of the way it is,

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Speaker 1: as much as you like to think otherwise, Like it'll

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Speaker 1: march on and the Ravens, you know, the Steve Steve Ashat,

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Speaker 1: he ain't going anywhere, Eric, cause ain't going anywhere. They're

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Speaker 1: still firmly here and and I think the culture and

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Speaker 1: what has been been here and the expectations aren't going

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Speaker 1: anywhere either, And they'll take the field next September. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and they'll have the same uniforms on, you know, and

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Speaker 1: same colors all that, and like, I think they'll be

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Speaker 1: darn good team.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think I think that they will be good.

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Speaker 2: I think that the expectations and the standard is is

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00:35:16,960 --> 00:35:20,920
Speaker 2: definitely in place. But I think that especially depending on

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Speaker 2: who you end up hiring as your coach, what their

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Speaker 2: expertise is, I think that it it could feel a

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Speaker 2: lot different. I think it could just feel just the

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Speaker 2: way that they conduct their business, the way that they

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Speaker 2: just a lot of things about how they operate could

733
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Speaker 2: end up being different. Whenever a team changes a head coach,

734
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Speaker 2: like there's different energy, even if both are independently successful.

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Speaker 2: And I think that could be the case here, and

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Speaker 2: not that one's right and one's wrong, but it's different.

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Speaker 2: And I think that we're gonna see that and it's

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Speaker 2: going to feel a little bit different, even though there's

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Speaker 2: there's gonna be this level of expectation of performance that

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Speaker 2: is that part's unchanged.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, what you hope for is that they inject some

742
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Speaker 3: juice into this thing.

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 1: I look at Ben Johnson and the Chicago Bears, and

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Speaker 1: to me, that seems like a great example in that

746
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Speaker 1: you know they had Eberflus was their their head coach.

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Speaker 1: Replace them with this up and coming offensive coordinator who

748
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Speaker 1: had a ton of success in Detroit. And now you

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Speaker 1: watch them in their postgame locker rooms and stuff, and

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Speaker 1: it's like, man, this dude brought some juice to that

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Speaker 1: locker room and they are they're pumped and riding a

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Speaker 1: wave's success.

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Speaker 3: Caleb Williams was playing great.

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Speaker 1: You know, things turned like that in Chicago, And honestly,

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Speaker 1: you look at the Ravens candidates. Stefanski first year, boom

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Speaker 1: in the playoffs, beat the Steelers in the playoffs, boom

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Speaker 1: right like naggy Chicago Bears in the playoffs, you know

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Speaker 1: they had already experienced this kind of thing before. For

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Speaker 1: the Ravens, you hope whoever comes in here. John Harbl

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Speaker 1: did an awesome job, but you hope this the next

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Speaker 1: person who replays them, brings and invigorates this team with

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Speaker 1: a new voice and a new juice and excitement and

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Speaker 1: gets this team on a roll.

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Speaker 3: And when you get that momentum behind you and.

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Speaker 1: You have everybody's really bought in and excited about it,

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Speaker 1: and like you can really a new coach. I think,

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Speaker 1: as hard as it is to move on from John Harball,

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Speaker 1: you do it because you believe that the next head

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Speaker 1: coach can come in here with a lot of successful

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Speaker 1: pieces and a great foundation and spark this thing to

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Speaker 1: get you over the hump. Because that's, as we all

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Speaker 1: well know, that's been the problem, right that Ravens have

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Speaker 1: had the best team on paper and had a ton

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Speaker 1: of season success, been the top seed in the AFC

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Speaker 1: and all this stuff, and this fallen short in the playoffs,

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Speaker 1: and like, hopefully whoever comes in here can just ride

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Speaker 1: this wave of momentum that takes you into the super Bowl.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so we're gonna get a chance to hear about

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Speaker 2: this process and what the Ravens are looking for or

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Speaker 2: what it's going to look like from Steve A. Shatti

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Speaker 2: and Eric Tacosta. As we mentioned earlier, their press conference

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Speaker 2: is going to be Tuesday afternoon. We are going to

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Speaker 2: live stream that for you on our app to a

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Speaker 2: cleft site. Our YouTube channel is going to be two o'clock.

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Speaker 3: Or put that in the calendar alert.

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Speaker 2: I know everyone's going to want to watch that. It's

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Speaker 2: the first time that Sibasati has had a press conference

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Speaker 2: here in years and so there's obviously a lot of

789
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Speaker 2: discuss with the coaching change and the and the search

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Speaker 2: process underway.

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Speaker 1: And Sibashatti honestly is one of the best press conferences

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Speaker 1: that you can have because he shoots it straight and uh,

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Speaker 1: he's just super engaging and insightful.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, definitely, So it'll be really interesting to see what

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Speaker 2: he and the Costa have to say about this process.

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Speaker 2: What is it that you're most looking forward to hearing

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Speaker 2: when you when we get the chance to hear from

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Speaker 2: them this week.

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Speaker 1: I'm looking forward to what they want in their next

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Speaker 1: head coach and how they what they believe will get

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Speaker 1: them over the hump. Why, why do they think that

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Speaker 1: they haven't been able to do that, and what do

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Speaker 1: they think it's going to take to do that. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you know, that's a really elusive thing. I don't know

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Speaker 1: that they're going to have the necessarily the solution, but

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Speaker 1: I want to know what they are aiming for, you know,

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Speaker 1: what qualities they kind of want that they believe will

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Speaker 1: get them there. Of course, there's going to be a

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Speaker 1: lot of i'm sure questions and trying to dig into

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Speaker 1: exactly how it ended with John Harwell, considering you had

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Speaker 1: eighteen years here and people are going to want to

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Speaker 1: know why. Why did they feel like now was the

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Speaker 1: time to make that change?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and I think I'm with you on that. It's

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Speaker 2: basical to me. What I'm most curious to hear about

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Speaker 2: is why now? And what's next? Like? What is it

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Speaker 2: that you what do you want to find in the

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Speaker 2: head coach? We just talked about these candidates the development reported.

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Speaker 2: Is there a profile that you're looking for? Is there

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Speaker 2: a side of the ball. We gave our take on

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Speaker 2: these candidates and what the Ravens could be looking for,

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Speaker 2: But what is it? Do you do you want a

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Speaker 2: defensive coach? Do you want an offensive coach? Do you

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Speaker 2: want a coach that's has head coaching experience? Do you

825
00:39:48,160 --> 00:39:50,640
Speaker 2: want somebody that's freshen up and coming? Like? What is

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Speaker 2: it that you're looking for with this head coach? And

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Speaker 2: what do you think is the right fit for this team?

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Speaker 2: I don't know that they're going to spell it all

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Speaker 2: out entirely, considering the interview processes is going off this week.

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Speaker 2: They're not gonna come out there and announce their head coach.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't think they're gonna say, we want a

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Speaker 1: thirty something year older than all the guys who are

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Speaker 1: you know, forty and above.

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Speaker 3: Are like, dang, all right, I guess I'm.

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Speaker 2: Not getting out. I think you're gonna have to to.

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Speaker 2: They don't have all of those answers yet, but I

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Speaker 2: think we're gonna get some insight into what they're looking for,

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Speaker 2: and that's what I'm curious to hear.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Absolutely, And then from Eric Kassa about you know,

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Speaker 1: where he felt like the team fell short, what roster

841
00:40:23,320 --> 00:40:25,759
Speaker 1: changes he wants to make moving forward. I'm sure you

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00:40:25,800 --> 00:40:28,040
Speaker 1: know investments in the offensive line. How do you turn

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00:40:28,080 --> 00:40:31,160
Speaker 1: around a pass defense that's been thirty first in the

844
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Speaker 1: league and back to back seasons despite heavy investments there?

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Speaker 1: You know, what do they see for Lamar Jackson and

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Speaker 1: his future with his contract situation. That's gonna be a

847
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Speaker 1: huge talking point, and so there's a lot of topics.

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Speaker 1: It's gonna be a very insightful press conference for sure.

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Speaker 2: Again Tuesday, two o'clock. Make sure that you check it out.

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Speaker 2: Will be live streaming it for you our app, our website,

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00:40:54,800 --> 00:40:56,800
Speaker 2: and our YouTube channel. Thank you so much for listening.

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00:40:56,880 --> 00:40:59,279
Speaker 2: We'll be back with you after that pressure tomorrow to

853
00:40:59,320 --> 00:41:02,000
Speaker 2: share a take ways and what we learned after hearing

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Speaker 2: from Steve and Eric. Thank you so much for listening,

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Speaker 2: Talking again soon