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Speaker 1: Revere Revee Dalks.

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Speaker 2: Look at us now, Tim to Tim, this is our life,

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Speaker 2: this is our passion, that's the spirit we bring to

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Speaker 2: this show. I'm Luke Thomas, I'm Brian Campbell.

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Speaker 1: This this Morning Combat.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, we're dead. We're grateful to be back at it.

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Speaker 2: We're talking about Morning Combat live in direct Las Vegas,

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Speaker 2: PBC on Prime pay per view week from here at

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Speaker 2: the Serious XM Studios at the Win. My name is

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Speaker 2: Brian Campbell, that is Luke Thomas. You've stumbled into the

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Speaker 2: best damn combat sports show.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Period. It's Friday, June fourteenth, two thousand and twenty four.

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Speaker 2: And Luke to say that we have a stacked special

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Speaker 2: show right here, which stacked has a double meaning apparently

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Speaker 2: here with Stack five on his way, can you just

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Speaker 2: regale the people with what we've got coming, because this

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Speaker 2: is loaded.

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Speaker 1: So let's talk about it. UFC three zero three news.

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Speaker 1: I can barely hear myself. YOUFC three h three news

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Speaker 1: we're gonna get to, obviously is huge. We're gonna get

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Speaker 1: to a preview of the card which is this weekend.

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Speaker 1: Although one of the best fights fell out this morning unfortunately.

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Speaker 1: We'll talk about that. Plus of course, we have a

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Speaker 1: new main event for UFC Saudi Arabia which is kind

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Speaker 1: of big. We're gonna get to some Tank versus Martin

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Speaker 1: predictions and an NBA champion is gonna be here today.

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Speaker 2: And on top of that, how about a review, a

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Speaker 2: look back to last night when Luke Thomas settled and okay, bet, Bet,

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Speaker 2: bet your ass a year in the makes.

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Speaker 1: Let me let me say this were we were walking

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Speaker 1: into the sphere last night and we have to get

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Speaker 1: this analysis off the top. And I just have to

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Speaker 1: say this. We were walking into the sphere last night

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Speaker 1: and BC said, wasn't this much better than me going

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Speaker 1: to some dumb metal show? And you agreed, Yes it was,

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Speaker 1: Yes it was. We'll talk about that a little bit.

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Speaker 2: Shut out to our brother Otel Burbridge the basis of

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Speaker 2: Dead and Company for a phenomenal evening, Luke, we're gonna

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Speaker 2: get into a full breakdown of it. You left a

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Speaker 2: little bit early, so you might only one more thing

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Speaker 2: to start this show and to play off this bet.

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Speaker 2: Can I get a chewee wee from you? Let's go

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Speaker 2: to the videotape. Let's get at che wee Wee's chee weeeees. Hello, Raoul,

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Speaker 2: how are you? What's up?

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Speaker 1: Bro? Hey?

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Speaker 3: Before we start, this.

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Speaker 2: Is too bad from that moment. Can we get a

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Speaker 2: chew we weeze from you?

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Speaker 1: Luke Man?

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Speaker 2: Fuck yo, mama, excuse me, sir? Can you give me

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Speaker 2: directions to the interstate?

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Speaker 1: All right?

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Speaker 2: More to Colm on that, but chee wee wee. That

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Speaker 2: was cringier Thannarreal, I love it. Shout out to Raoul

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Speaker 2: Rosas Junior, the future of mixed martial arts. Wow do

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Speaker 2: I have a lot to tell you guys about. Have

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Speaker 2: you seen how ridiculous I'm dressed? By the way, Luke,

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Speaker 2: this wasn't cheap.

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Speaker 1: Either, but it's six minutes in. We gotta get this moving, okay, Dad,

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Speaker 1: thank you very much. Someone's gotta be.

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Speaker 2: Hey, why don't you take us into the lead topic

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Speaker 1: All right, let's put the camera on me here for

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Speaker 1: just a second, so let's get it going. Here is

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Speaker 1: the news that we're going to react to. Right off

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Speaker 1: the top, UFC three oh three has a brand new event,

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Speaker 1: feature fight. So goes something like this. UFC President Dana

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Speaker 2: What I don't even know how you can have one

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Speaker 2: I mean, in some ways it's the same beef I

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Speaker 2: for two weeks you're just in limbo with no actual details.

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Speaker 1: So your question is like, what does the UFCO the public,

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Speaker 1: Lose a significant starpower by are you losing Connor? But

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Speaker 2: so we'll go with that it's an injury. But in

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Speaker 2: But Luke, legitimate question here, does this sequence from UFC

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Speaker 2: Look what you just had to do to save this

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Speaker 1: the way, everyone, everyone's getting all the props to put

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Speaker 1: Padata and all those guys in your Yarie. Fine, poor

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Speaker 1: a little one out there for Robert Whitaker going from

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Speaker 1: Hamzat to ikram Alice care on a fucking week's notice.

436
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Speaker 1: By the way, still going to be in hostile territory.

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Speaker 2: But will he fight John Jones? That's the real question.

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Speaker 1: That's the fight that everybody wants to see. By the way,

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Speaker 1: last night at the Dead Show, I had visions of

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Speaker 1: that fight. Wow. I was like, Wow, they're gonna make this. Wow.

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Speaker 2: I think I got healed on the inside from that show.

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Speaker 2: We'll talk about that more.

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Speaker 1: We just took a big dump.

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Speaker 2: Did to segment number two here and it's the launch

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Speaker 2: of the new partnership. You may have seen the press

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Speaker 2: releases this week. You may have seen us in Thursday's

447
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Speaker 2: Fantastic Radio Row interview special on the Morning Combat YouTube channel.

448
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Speaker 2: Please check that out. Jim Lampley, David Benavidez, James Tone,

449
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Speaker 2: I mean, deep shit going on in there. But we

450
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Speaker 2: have joined in this new revolution, the launch all the

451
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Speaker 2: Smoke Fight. Luke, we got a little bit of a

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Speaker 2: sizzle reel to throw too. And then on the other end,

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Speaker 2: we're gonna welcome in our one of our partners in

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Speaker 2: this crime. But All the Smoke Fight is coming. We're

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Speaker 2: a part of it. Let's get fired up.

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Speaker 1: What up?

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Speaker 4: Well, we're back fight towns right now. We're in Miami.

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Speaker 1: Man David Benda Vedez is him in Miami right now training.

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Speaker 1: We're honored to be here.

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Speaker 4: Every we spend some time with him and his dad,

461
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Speaker 4: watch him train, watch him get ready for another big fight.

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Speaker 1: You know, it's a lot of things going on. He's

463
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Speaker 1: been calling Canelo for a while.

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Speaker 4: You know, a lot of people have been dodging him.

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Speaker 4: His family has been through a lot. You know, his

466
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Speaker 4: dad has been through a lot. Get both his voice

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Speaker 4: to where they're at. Also, we get to sit down

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Speaker 4: with the legend, Roy Jones. Came all the way from Pensacola.

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Speaker 4: We're starting to fight times off bigger and better with

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Speaker 4: Roy Jones and the champion, the Mexican Monster.

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Speaker 1: Daved been to be there. This is fight times, baby,

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Speaker 1: Stay tuned. This is the type of tensity you want

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Speaker 1: to see let's go.

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Speaker 4: I love This is a legacy fight for both guys,

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Speaker 4: and I think both guys understand that.

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Speaker 1: If you're get nervous in the big game, I did

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Speaker 1: get nervous.

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Speaker 4: Think if you don't get nervous, you don't care about

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Speaker 4: that moment, the.

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Speaker 1: Biggest fight of the year, the biggest pier of this generation.

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Speaker 1: I ain't feel feel goods off had on the top

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Speaker 1: of the guy. We want you to look to me

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Speaker 1: as an ally right hook to the fight. There you

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Speaker 1: go night. You think I gonna take a body shock?

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Speaker 1: You know? I'm say in the next ten years, I've

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Speaker 1: seen myself being the greatest in my generation. What's your next?

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Speaker 1: Big five? Yeah?

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Speaker 2: We were once family in showtime. We were family once more.

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Speaker 2: And All the Smoke Fight You saw the sizzle in

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Speaker 2: the preview of the first episode of Fight Towns, which

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Speaker 2: is out now with this gentleman, two thousand and three

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Speaker 2: NBA World Champion and one half of the should be

493
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Speaker 2: multi time award winning All the Smoke podcasts, Steven Jackson

494
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Speaker 2: joining us to talk about the fight Game, but to

495
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Speaker 2: talk about this reunion union we got going on the

496
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Speaker 2: new Combat Sports vertical. What can you say about what's

497
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Speaker 2: coming with all the smoke.

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Speaker 4: Fight Well, glad to be back with family. Family, I

499
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Speaker 4: think I always call y'all guys. My intro to the

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Speaker 4: boxing game. Y'all, y'all definitely ushered me in in the

501
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Speaker 4: best way possible. Yeah, it was a great point guard

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Speaker 4: as with thawing me the right passes in the right time,

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Speaker 4: to answer questions in his body.

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Speaker 2: Trying to bring that terry porter and to learn you

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Speaker 2: know what.

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Speaker 4: I learned a lot you guys, So thank you. I'm

507
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Speaker 4: glad we're family again. But you know, this is this

508
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Speaker 4: is we had the great blueprint, you know, of what

509
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Speaker 4: the boxing game should be, how it should look and

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Speaker 4: and and in all verticals right being a showtime, so

511
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Speaker 4: we we definitely know what it looked like. So I

512
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Speaker 4: think now it's time for us to just make that better.

513
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Speaker 4: Take that blueprint and make that blueprint better. We have

514
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Speaker 4: a great opportunity to be in this space and to

515
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Speaker 4: do some great things, you know, even with fight times.

516
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Speaker 4: We off to a great start with David Bennaviidez and

517
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Speaker 4: Roy Jones. I think that was a great, what probably

518
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Speaker 4: the best episode so far, having Morning Morning come back back.

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Speaker 4: I think that's the best thing happening back and with

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Speaker 4: all the smoke productions is everything I'm talking.

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Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, all the smoke fights.

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Speaker 4: So I just think everything that's that the fans been

523
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Speaker 4: loving from the boxing game the last couple of years.

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Speaker 4: I think we all have it in the house as

525
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Speaker 4: a family now. So I think it's time for us

526
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Speaker 4: just to make it better. And we have that opportunity.

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Speaker 2: We've taken over the old Showtime Sports and Showtime Boxing

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Speaker 2: social channels. Our patriarch Brian Day a huge part of

529
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Speaker 2: this operation, along with your partner Matt Barnes as well. Uh,

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Speaker 2: speaking of fights, man, you know, we know you're fired

531
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Speaker 2: up about So.

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Speaker 1: I went to my barber on Wednesday, You're no. When

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Speaker 1: I went to my barber, he's a big NBA fan.

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Speaker 1: He's always got like, uh, like, you know, the NBA

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Speaker 1: channel on, so he's watching like an African Championship or

536
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Speaker 1: whatever teams were there. And I told him, I was like, hey,

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Speaker 1: I'm you know, he knows I do this for a living.

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Speaker 1: And he was like, uh, oh, when when are you

539
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Speaker 1: travel again. I'm like, oh, go to the tank fight

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Speaker 1: this weekend. And I said, you know, I'm doing a

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Speaker 1: podcast that this week with Stephen Jackson. He goes malice

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Speaker 1: in the palace.

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Speaker 2: Can he live that down already?

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Speaker 1: You know what? Some people respected for the reason he

545
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Speaker 1: loves you.

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Speaker 2: He loves you, know what. The prevailing thing we learned

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Speaker 2: from that is brotherhood, in loyalty, loyal to It was

548
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Speaker 2: so great anyway.

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Speaker 1: He he was over the moon that I was sitting

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Speaker 1: here with you. So I'm gonna take this clip of

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Speaker 1: it and show it. Say what, what's his name? Juwan juwan?

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Speaker 1: Ye miss bros to you? Yeah, there is behind us.

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Speaker 2: By the way it looks this traffic is sick.

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Speaker 1: That is fire man Rose Connor. Good job.

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Speaker 2: It needs a little more dementa Deamonte, robld Marcus.

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Speaker 1: Shout out Diamont.

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Speaker 4: I don't know where he is right now, but every

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Speaker 4: time I think of him, every time, I says.

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Speaker 1: So that's that's his famous line. Man. But we'll see

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Speaker 1: our brother soon. Hey. Can we talk about what's going

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Speaker 1: on fight week right now? Yes, let's do it all right, man.

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Speaker 1: I know you saw it last night. Gervonte, Tank Davis

563
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Speaker 1: and Floyd are just having it out in public ust now. Yes,

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Speaker 1: So for folks who didn't see it, there's obviously been

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Speaker 1: some long standing, well not long recent beef. Anyway between

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Speaker 1: Tank and Floyd with Leonard Ellerby is kind of like

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Speaker 1: the intermediary yep leon Promotions. They said he resign. I

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Speaker 1: don't think he resigned. I think he got fired. They

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Speaker 1: put in Richard Schaeffer last night out of nowhere.

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Speaker 2: Moving the operation out of.

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Speaker 1: Nowhere, seemingly seemingly out of nowhere. And then Floyd gets

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Speaker 1: on social media says the Tank fight is canceled and

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Speaker 1: you should watch the UFC card this weekend. Tank calling

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Speaker 1: Floyd basically a bitch on Twitter. What do you make

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Speaker 1: of all of this?

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Speaker 4: I mean, one thing you don't do is you don't

577
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Speaker 4: mess with a man's pockets, you know. I think that's

578
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Speaker 4: if you're a secure person and you have all the

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Speaker 4: money you say you have, Floyd, then why even's though

580
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Speaker 4: to that level?

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Speaker 1: Right?

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Speaker 4: So it's something that that Tank has said a done

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Speaker 4: that's really got under Floyd's skin to really make him

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Speaker 4: come out and say the flight, the fight is counseled

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Speaker 4: and all that. So I just I just think whatever

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Speaker 4: it is is to the point where you know that

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Speaker 4: they're not gonna come back from this, like we've seen

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Speaker 4: Tank and Floyd argue publicly before, but then you'll see

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Speaker 4: Floyd in his corner talking to him in the corner.

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Speaker 4: We've seen this many times, but I don't think this

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Speaker 4: is I think this is a different situation because they're

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Speaker 4: attacking each other personally.

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Speaker 1: Now. It's not just about boxing.

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Speaker 4: It's just not that's not just about what happened in

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Speaker 4: the ring, or or or maybe may Weather promotions. It's

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Speaker 4: more of him talking about Floyd on money and now

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Speaker 4: Floyd saying it fighters counsel like you, you're attacking people

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Speaker 4: people personally now. So I hate it got to that

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Speaker 4: point because there you know, they made a lot of

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Speaker 4: money together, but it'll never be the same with him too,

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Speaker 4: and it probably get to the point where if they

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Speaker 4: see each other in person, you know, I think they

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Speaker 4: might go to blows.

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Speaker 2: Oh wow, Well, I gotta ask you because like this

605
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Speaker 2: is this is pretty wild. We've seen when a promoter

606
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Speaker 2: is an ex fighter and is a superstar. Think Oscar

607
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Speaker 2: de la Hoya, you're gonna get upload to ego. We've

608
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Speaker 2: seen him spar with his own fighters, right, Canelo Ryan

609
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Speaker 2: Garcia have issues in and out? Is this rooted? Do

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Speaker 2: you think in just that people used to say when

611
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Speaker 2: Tank's coming up, Floyd would speak too much, put his

612
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Speaker 2: arm around him, hogged the spotlight. Is it just an

613
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Speaker 2: ego battle or is there some deeper beef there. I

614
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Speaker 2: can't figure it out well.

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Speaker 4: I mean I've heard I've seen other boxes that's been

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Speaker 4: around Floyd, and a lot of people say say that

617
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Speaker 4: he don't want to be outshined by anyone. And I

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Speaker 4: could see that being a problem if you a young

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Speaker 4: boxer coming up and you're around a guy who had

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Speaker 4: his time and he's still trying to outshine you.

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Speaker 1: In your time, I mean.

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Speaker 2: Some time was impeccable, like seriously, Like he beat the game.

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Speaker 2: It's a perfect game.

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Speaker 4: Right, So why would you even be around trying to

625
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Speaker 4: take somebody else shine when you mastered it? Like I

626
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Speaker 4: get what Tank's saying. But but like I said, too

627
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Speaker 4: for Floyd's even stoop to the leven than to do

628
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Speaker 4: all this. It's something that baid that. It's true, you know,

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Speaker 4: something that really bothered him, fro him to get to

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Speaker 4: this point.

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Speaker 1: But I just hate it. Do you think it's gonna

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Speaker 1: play a role tomorrow? Uh? Hard to say. Because Leonard

633
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Speaker 1: Lerby I went back and I watched the presser. I

634
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Speaker 1: went back to watch the presser this week, they introduced

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Speaker 1: Leonard Ellerby as Mayweather Mayweather Promotion CEO and then gone

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Speaker 1: in an instant.

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Speaker 4: I don't know, I think. I mean, I think I

638
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Speaker 4: don't think it's gonna bother the Tank. But I think

639
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Speaker 4: definitely if Floyd's in the building and he's been seen

640
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Speaker 4: and making himself seen, I think it's gonna be some

641
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Speaker 4: type of something that Tank would do to to either

642
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Speaker 4: piss Floyd off or to let him know that he's

643
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Speaker 4: running things now. It's gonna it's gonna be some type

644
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Speaker 4: of conversation. But I don't think it's gonna affect Tank's performance.

645
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Speaker 4: I think at this point Tank has been through so

646
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Speaker 4: much in his career. Uh, we've seen the best Tank

647
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Speaker 4: the last couple of fights. So I think at this

648
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Speaker 4: point he's mastered the outside stuff, especially you know, just

649
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Speaker 4: coming home from jail and all this type of stuff.

650
00:27:51,880 --> 00:27:54,000
Speaker 1: He can't have a bad performance, you know what I mean.

651
00:27:54,000 --> 00:27:55,399
Speaker 1: So I think I think could be locked in.

652
00:27:55,440 --> 00:27:57,040
Speaker 2: Well. I think this strama takes the pressure off Earl

653
00:27:57,040 --> 00:28:00,000
Speaker 2: Spence Junior, who's returning with his ex trainer Derek Jeames

654
00:28:00,040 --> 00:28:02,359
Speaker 2: in the corner of Frank Martney here. But when we

655
00:28:02,400 --> 00:28:04,080
Speaker 2: go back to Tank, we've had a lot of debate

656
00:28:04,080 --> 00:28:07,359
Speaker 2: about this. I thought the gloves Off program that Prime

657
00:28:07,400 --> 00:28:10,040
Speaker 2: Video put out to preview this fight really sort of

658
00:28:10,080 --> 00:28:12,960
Speaker 2: showed us the Tanks in an interesting spot because last

659
00:28:13,040 --> 00:28:14,919
Speaker 2: year he hit the highest of heights and knocking out

660
00:28:15,000 --> 00:28:17,920
Speaker 2: Ryan Garcia in an April blockbuster and then does forty

661
00:28:17,920 --> 00:28:20,360
Speaker 2: four days in a detention center for violating his probation.

662
00:28:20,480 --> 00:28:23,080
Speaker 2: We know the lingering trail of things that have followed

663
00:28:23,160 --> 00:28:25,480
Speaker 2: him outside the ring, but he's what twenty nine now,

664
00:28:25,560 --> 00:28:28,000
Speaker 2: so you're thinking now or never to step up to

665
00:28:28,040 --> 00:28:30,560
Speaker 2: that level of maturity. But then we've seen him like

666
00:28:30,640 --> 00:28:34,399
Speaker 2: bullying Frank Martin at like an aggressive comedic level this week.

667
00:28:34,680 --> 00:28:35,280
Speaker 1: Where do you.

668
00:28:35,240 --> 00:28:37,240
Speaker 2: Actually think Tank's head is at? Because he does have

669
00:28:37,280 --> 00:28:40,040
Speaker 2: a lot going on. Take the Floyd Mayweather thing out

670
00:28:40,040 --> 00:28:41,520
Speaker 2: of it for a second. He's got a lot going

671
00:28:41,560 --> 00:28:42,160
Speaker 2: on right now.

672
00:28:42,280 --> 00:28:44,120
Speaker 1: Yeah. I think that's the hanger to get back in

673
00:28:44,120 --> 00:28:44,400
Speaker 1: the ring.

674
00:28:44,440 --> 00:28:46,520
Speaker 4: He had a nice layoff, so I think he's hunger

675
00:28:46,560 --> 00:28:47,960
Speaker 4: to get back in the ring, and I think deep

676
00:28:48,000 --> 00:28:50,320
Speaker 4: down inside he know just as well as you two

677
00:28:50,360 --> 00:28:52,840
Speaker 4: guys know, because you guys are smarter than me. Frank

678
00:28:52,880 --> 00:28:55,280
Speaker 4: gonna push him, you know, Frank gonna pushing Frank. Frank

679
00:28:55,400 --> 00:28:58,800
Speaker 4: is a guy who's strong. I really think that tanks

680
00:28:58,800 --> 00:29:00,800
Speaker 4: and Frank's head a little bit. You know, even you

681
00:29:00,800 --> 00:29:02,960
Speaker 4: know when you flinch like that, that that says a lot.

682
00:29:03,040 --> 00:29:04,320
Speaker 4: I mean, I watched a lot of fights. You don't

683
00:29:04,320 --> 00:29:06,200
Speaker 4: see too many bucks flinch with somebody jumping.

684
00:29:06,440 --> 00:29:08,560
Speaker 2: It's funny. I see a lot of people who look

685
00:29:08,680 --> 00:29:10,440
Speaker 2: like me saying, oh, it's not a big deal. But

686
00:29:10,560 --> 00:29:12,800
Speaker 2: people that are real, people that are that have been

687
00:29:13,040 --> 00:29:15,080
Speaker 2: in and out, have seen a little bit of the

688
00:29:15,120 --> 00:29:17,720
Speaker 2: street left, They're like, no, that was a telling ass moment.

689
00:29:17,840 --> 00:29:19,479
Speaker 1: Well, I mean, I'm gonna give you a perfect example.

690
00:29:19,520 --> 00:29:23,760
Speaker 4: You mean, when Benavidez was fighting Bud Crawford, he had

691
00:29:23,880 --> 00:29:25,680
Speaker 4: he was he was fighting him off.

692
00:29:25,960 --> 00:29:28,400
Speaker 2: He just got shot in his knee.

693
00:29:28,960 --> 00:29:31,680
Speaker 4: He weaved it and in the heartbeat like, if you can,

694
00:29:31,880 --> 00:29:33,120
Speaker 4: if you can do that, you know what I'm saying

695
00:29:33,120 --> 00:29:35,200
Speaker 4: that that's is Bud Crawford. We talking about. Bud swung

696
00:29:35,240 --> 00:29:37,280
Speaker 4: pretty hard. He really tried to hit him. He weaved

697
00:29:37,320 --> 00:29:38,840
Speaker 4: that you have to be on your game.

698
00:29:39,160 --> 00:29:41,880
Speaker 1: Well, also didn't girty for wrong wasn't that Matt Barnes

699
00:29:41,920 --> 00:29:44,560
Speaker 1: who put the ball in Kobe's face and Kobe was

700
00:29:44,680 --> 00:29:48,120
Speaker 1: just the mamba mamba. So I mean, I mean in

701
00:29:48,480 --> 00:29:50,080
Speaker 1: that moment, in that moment.

702
00:29:49,840 --> 00:29:51,960
Speaker 4: When you know, like there's no fens, you can't you

703
00:29:52,040 --> 00:29:53,640
Speaker 4: can't show no sign of that. But at the end

704
00:29:53,640 --> 00:29:55,360
Speaker 4: of the day, they both got to go in there

705
00:29:55,360 --> 00:29:57,280
Speaker 4: and fight. I do have take winning, but I think

706
00:29:57,280 --> 00:29:59,240
Speaker 4: Frank is gonna push him, you know, with their layoff,

707
00:29:59,240 --> 00:29:59,720
Speaker 4: he said.

708
00:29:59,560 --> 00:30:02,080
Speaker 2: I think Frank gonna make make Tank have to not

709
00:30:02,080 --> 00:30:03,640
Speaker 2: not only knock him out, but like maybe knock him

710
00:30:03,640 --> 00:30:05,280
Speaker 2: out cold to win the fight. Like I feel like

711
00:30:05,320 --> 00:30:07,440
Speaker 2: Frank is bringing the dog knows this is his moment,

712
00:30:07,600 --> 00:30:09,440
Speaker 2: has decided he is going to be as confident as

713
00:30:09,440 --> 00:30:11,760
Speaker 2: he possibly can be, whether you feel like you've seen

714
00:30:11,800 --> 00:30:13,760
Speaker 2: fear or maybe not ready for prime time yet.

715
00:30:13,880 --> 00:30:15,920
Speaker 1: Update on Gravanto Davis. He is now going back and

716
00:30:15,960 --> 00:30:19,960
Speaker 1: forth with Oscar de la Hoya on Twitter. So that's fine.

717
00:30:19,160 --> 00:30:23,840
Speaker 2: It adds, it adds that's flavored to some of these people.

718
00:30:23,920 --> 00:30:26,320
Speaker 1: Some of these people like, it's interesting, I don't you

719
00:30:26,400 --> 00:30:28,840
Speaker 1: know this better than we do, certainly, But just covering athletes,

720
00:30:29,120 --> 00:30:31,520
Speaker 1: I have seen some that like have to psych themselves

721
00:30:31,560 --> 00:30:33,120
Speaker 1: up for the moment, and they can do it, but

722
00:30:33,120 --> 00:30:36,080
Speaker 1: it's a process. And then I've seen others who cannot

723
00:30:36,120 --> 00:30:39,360
Speaker 1: fucking wait for the lights to be on because that's

724
00:30:39,640 --> 00:30:42,120
Speaker 1: that's the only time, actually that they can get themselves

725
00:30:42,480 --> 00:30:44,960
Speaker 1: to that place. I don't know who Dravante is. Seems

726
00:30:44,960 --> 00:30:46,840
Speaker 1: like he's the latter, but I guess we're gonna find

727
00:30:46,840 --> 00:30:50,000
Speaker 1: out tomorrow, right, because you're adding so much stress to

728
00:30:50,080 --> 00:30:50,600
Speaker 1: this process.

729
00:30:50,640 --> 00:30:52,800
Speaker 2: Is Jim Lampley, who was crying yesterday and told us that,

730
00:30:52,840 --> 00:30:56,040
Speaker 2: like so many fighters feel like they're only safe places

731
00:30:56,040 --> 00:30:56,480
Speaker 2: in that ring.

732
00:30:56,760 --> 00:30:58,719
Speaker 1: Him said that I don't even I think that's right.

733
00:30:58,800 --> 00:31:00,640
Speaker 2: Yes, all I know is that James Tony called the

734
00:31:00,640 --> 00:31:03,880
Speaker 2: Canelos a bitch. Okay, to be very fair. Right there,

735
00:31:04,120 --> 00:31:05,400
Speaker 2: I want to talk about David Benivie.

736
00:31:05,480 --> 00:31:06,360
Speaker 1: I can say this. I was.

737
00:31:06,440 --> 00:31:07,920
Speaker 4: The only time I was at piece is when I

738
00:31:07,960 --> 00:31:11,400
Speaker 4: was playing basketball games, even in big games, because it

739
00:31:11,480 --> 00:31:12,800
Speaker 4: got to the point where I don't even know I

740
00:31:12,800 --> 00:31:14,800
Speaker 4: don't even see them like it could be allowed.

741
00:31:14,840 --> 00:31:16,920
Speaker 1: I don't even know you here. You know what I'm saying.

742
00:31:16,960 --> 00:31:18,800
Speaker 1: I'm so locked in and so happy.

743
00:31:18,480 --> 00:31:20,080
Speaker 4: To be here and love what I'm doing, and want

744
00:31:20,120 --> 00:31:22,240
Speaker 4: to win and competing so bad that I don't even

745
00:31:22,280 --> 00:31:24,600
Speaker 4: know that this arena field with thirty thousand people.

746
00:31:24,960 --> 00:31:27,040
Speaker 2: Moro Overneller used to say the same thing in that documentary,

747
00:31:27,040 --> 00:31:30,000
Speaker 2: the great documentary that did on Showtime, They Bipolar Rock

748
00:31:30,040 --> 00:31:32,120
Speaker 2: and Roller. He said, like chaos in his life, but

749
00:31:32,160 --> 00:31:34,200
Speaker 2: when the headphones are on, when he's doing what he's

750
00:31:34,240 --> 00:31:36,680
Speaker 2: born to do, is the only time he feels safe, alive,

751
00:31:36,960 --> 00:31:39,640
Speaker 2: valued to some degree, I can understand that too. David

752
00:31:39,640 --> 00:31:42,560
Speaker 2: Benavidez is playing a big role in Saturday's PBC on

753
00:31:42,680 --> 00:31:44,560
Speaker 2: Prime Video pay per View and the Coleman again vent

754
00:31:44,560 --> 00:31:46,760
Speaker 2: against Alexander Vodsik, moving up to one hundred and seventy

755
00:31:46,800 --> 00:31:50,320
Speaker 2: five pounds. I gotta find out because you spent time

756
00:31:50,400 --> 00:31:52,520
Speaker 2: with him in Miami, and he's a new He's a

757
00:31:52,560 --> 00:31:55,440
Speaker 2: new man in Miami, it seems right. I moved from Seattle,

758
00:31:55,520 --> 00:31:58,920
Speaker 2: has the secondary home there in Miami, and has infiltrated

759
00:31:58,960 --> 00:32:01,160
Speaker 2: himself into the lifestyle. But we've been impressed this week

760
00:32:01,160 --> 00:32:03,960
Speaker 2: after talking to him. But just how cool, calm, business

761
00:32:04,080 --> 00:32:06,560
Speaker 2: like assassin mode. He is not going out of his

762
00:32:06,600 --> 00:32:08,959
Speaker 2: way to disparage Canelo, even though we keep propping these

763
00:32:09,040 --> 00:32:12,120
Speaker 2: questions up to him, but he's just focused on his business.

764
00:32:12,120 --> 00:32:14,320
Speaker 2: And when we hear Jim Lampley telling us that one

765
00:32:14,400 --> 00:32:18,320
Speaker 2: day could be the first, you know, star crossover Mexican

766
00:32:18,360 --> 00:32:21,680
Speaker 2: heavyweight champion, you got to really start thinking about what

767
00:32:21,760 --> 00:32:24,640
Speaker 2: David Benavitez has put together and what his potential is.

768
00:32:24,680 --> 00:32:26,680
Speaker 2: What did you learn from spending time with him, you know,

769
00:32:26,760 --> 00:32:28,840
Speaker 2: off camera and really finding out who that man is

770
00:32:28,880 --> 00:32:29,440
Speaker 2: deep inside?

771
00:32:29,520 --> 00:32:31,080
Speaker 4: Well, what a cod How lucky are we to have

772
00:32:31,360 --> 00:32:33,880
Speaker 4: in the Cole Maine, right, I mean, David, that's We're

773
00:32:33,920 --> 00:32:35,320
Speaker 4: so lucky as boxing fans.

774
00:32:36,400 --> 00:32:37,280
Speaker 1: I learned a lot.

775
00:32:37,400 --> 00:32:44,880
Speaker 4: I learned that David Benevetez is a kid who is

776
00:32:44,920 --> 00:32:48,320
Speaker 4: growing to be a man, but also who was learning

777
00:32:48,360 --> 00:32:50,800
Speaker 4: how to be a professional and who's getting to a

778
00:32:50,840 --> 00:32:56,200
Speaker 4: point where he's mastering his craft. David is one is

779
00:32:56,320 --> 00:32:57,880
Speaker 4: one of the guys when I question since I've been

780
00:32:57,880 --> 00:33:01,480
Speaker 4: shooting the show, he acts. He ask so many questions

781
00:33:02,000 --> 00:33:04,040
Speaker 4: and I've never seen a box ask so many questions

782
00:33:04,120 --> 00:33:06,040
Speaker 4: like we was in Therey Roy Jones and he was

783
00:33:06,120 --> 00:33:07,280
Speaker 4: just so eager to learn.

784
00:33:07,280 --> 00:33:08,920
Speaker 1: And when you have a guy at the level that

785
00:33:09,000 --> 00:33:10,560
Speaker 1: David is that you know a lot.

786
00:33:10,440 --> 00:33:12,760
Speaker 4: Of guys thinking Okay, I've been boxing for so long,

787
00:33:13,000 --> 00:33:14,680
Speaker 4: it's not too much I haven't seen in the ring,

788
00:33:14,960 --> 00:33:15,440
Speaker 4: you know what I mean.

789
00:33:15,600 --> 00:33:17,080
Speaker 1: I don't think David ever be that way.

790
00:33:17,560 --> 00:33:20,080
Speaker 4: I think I think he feels like it's always something

791
00:33:20,080 --> 00:33:22,000
Speaker 4: that he can add to his game, whether it's footwork,

792
00:33:22,040 --> 00:33:24,520
Speaker 4: whether it's you know, it's whether it's moving, whether it's

793
00:33:24,600 --> 00:33:27,200
Speaker 4: uh controlling the box a taller box. Like it's so

794
00:33:27,280 --> 00:33:29,000
Speaker 4: much that he feels like he still has to learn

795
00:33:29,040 --> 00:33:30,920
Speaker 4: in the game of boxing. And when when you when

796
00:33:30,960 --> 00:33:32,760
Speaker 4: you at the level he had, that's that's that is

797
00:33:32,800 --> 00:33:34,760
Speaker 4: impressive to me. You know, I got a chance to

798
00:33:34,840 --> 00:33:36,680
Speaker 4: run with I ran. I was supposed to run eight

799
00:33:36,680 --> 00:33:38,480
Speaker 4: miles with him. I ran four.

800
00:33:40,040 --> 00:33:42,000
Speaker 2: I'm like, you're a forty five year old man, right,

801
00:33:42,160 --> 00:33:42,760
Speaker 2: I could not.

802
00:33:42,800 --> 00:33:44,640
Speaker 1: Run eight miles and David ran it like it was

803
00:33:44,680 --> 00:33:45,640
Speaker 1: around the block. Right.

804
00:33:46,160 --> 00:33:49,000
Speaker 4: So, and his work ethic, like like we were talking

805
00:33:49,000 --> 00:33:51,280
Speaker 4: about Kobe and all these other guys, like he has

806
00:33:51,400 --> 00:33:53,640
Speaker 4: that one of a kind, once in the once in

807
00:33:53,680 --> 00:33:57,080
Speaker 4: a lifetime work ethic, and uh, it was a pleasure

808
00:33:57,120 --> 00:33:59,280
Speaker 4: to see him and him in this camp work.

809
00:33:59,120 --> 00:34:01,280
Speaker 1: And get ready for this fight. Also, like you've seen

810
00:34:01,280 --> 00:34:04,520
Speaker 1: these athletes too, right, A true in any sport, there's

811
00:34:04,560 --> 00:34:07,360
Speaker 1: certain times where you can see them begin to really elevate.

812
00:34:07,560 --> 00:34:10,960
Speaker 1: And these are guys who in practice cross the teed

813
00:34:11,000 --> 00:34:13,640
Speaker 1: dot their eyes like almost like going into a test

814
00:34:13,840 --> 00:34:16,840
Speaker 1: knowing you have done all the homework, all the studying, everything,

815
00:34:17,120 --> 00:34:20,359
Speaker 1: there's nothing you won't know about. What's not to say,

816
00:34:20,400 --> 00:34:22,840
Speaker 1: you know everything but about that night, but that test,

817
00:34:23,160 --> 00:34:26,800
Speaker 1: you already know. Like the confidence he had, it felt

818
00:34:26,800 --> 00:34:29,560
Speaker 1: like he already knew. I know exactly what's going to happen.

819
00:34:29,640 --> 00:34:31,480
Speaker 1: I know exactly what I have to do. I know

820
00:34:31,640 --> 00:34:34,959
Speaker 1: exactly the kind of energy and intensity I have to muster,

821
00:34:35,040 --> 00:34:37,040
Speaker 1: and let's just go and do it. I've never seen

822
00:34:37,040 --> 00:34:40,320
Speaker 1: someone so dialed in on so many levels all at once.

823
00:34:40,520 --> 00:34:42,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, when you know a guy like that,

824
00:34:42,440 --> 00:34:45,760
Speaker 4: when you show up to the fight, if anything goes wrong,

825
00:34:45,840 --> 00:34:47,319
Speaker 4: you want to sit there and be able to say,

826
00:34:47,320 --> 00:34:49,720
Speaker 4: you know, I prepare, I did everything I was supposed

827
00:34:49,719 --> 00:34:52,120
Speaker 4: to do for this fight. Even on the show. It's

828
00:34:52,160 --> 00:34:55,279
Speaker 4: a guy from overseas that was there. I wanted to

829
00:34:55,280 --> 00:34:57,719
Speaker 4: spar with David. He gave you, David some work that

830
00:34:58,000 --> 00:34:59,560
Speaker 4: was going to help him in his next fight. So

831
00:34:59,640 --> 00:35:01,799
Speaker 4: David g him a job and kept him around. So

832
00:35:02,040 --> 00:35:03,799
Speaker 4: you know that's that shows the type of person that

833
00:35:03,880 --> 00:35:05,600
Speaker 4: David is. If he got somebody around that's gonna make

834
00:35:05,680 --> 00:35:07,759
Speaker 4: him better and then keep him around, that shows a lot.

835
00:35:07,760 --> 00:35:09,480
Speaker 2: All right, let's talk about the intensity that you saw

836
00:35:09,520 --> 00:35:11,799
Speaker 2: from him, because he's almost matter of fact when we

837
00:35:11,800 --> 00:35:14,000
Speaker 2: had when we sat down with him yesterday and relayed

838
00:35:14,000 --> 00:35:16,200
Speaker 2: the story that bred Man Edwards told us about how

839
00:35:16,560 --> 00:35:18,560
Speaker 2: Benavidez has been in camp before with the big light

840
00:35:18,600 --> 00:35:20,720
Speaker 2: heavyweights who he's moving up and putting himself in position

841
00:35:20,719 --> 00:35:22,760
Speaker 2: to face because remember, if he beats Votzick on Saturday,

842
00:35:22,920 --> 00:35:24,960
Speaker 2: we expect him and so does Turkey Ala Chic to

843
00:35:25,000 --> 00:35:27,640
Speaker 2: fight the winner of October's bev All versus Better beav

844
00:35:27,680 --> 00:35:30,640
Speaker 2: On disputed clash. But we find out that Benefitez has

845
00:35:30,680 --> 00:35:34,840
Speaker 2: sparred before bev All Vodzick triple and and like the

846
00:35:34,920 --> 00:35:37,480
Speaker 2: report coming back was that he put it on them.

847
00:35:37,840 --> 00:35:41,640
Speaker 2: He confirmed, but without being braggadocious, like, yeah, that's exactly

848
00:35:41,680 --> 00:35:43,879
Speaker 2: what happened. Did you see that ferocity come.

849
00:35:43,800 --> 00:35:46,480
Speaker 1: Out we when we talked about it, you saw the

850
00:35:46,520 --> 00:35:47,160
Speaker 1: confidence in it.

851
00:35:48,040 --> 00:35:50,399
Speaker 4: I could he You can tell that he has he

852
00:35:50,400 --> 00:35:53,160
Speaker 4: he has some great experiences with those guys and him

853
00:35:53,200 --> 00:35:55,160
Speaker 4: moving up is not is not a problem to him.

854
00:35:55,200 --> 00:35:55,400
Speaker 1: You know.

855
00:35:55,440 --> 00:35:57,000
Speaker 4: He he knows he can bang with these guys. He

856
00:35:57,080 --> 00:35:58,440
Speaker 4: know he can get in there and whin the win

857
00:35:58,480 --> 00:36:02,719
Speaker 4: these fights. And I just love David because he's willing

858
00:36:02,760 --> 00:36:05,720
Speaker 4: to fight everybody. Not only his confidence, but he wants

859
00:36:05,760 --> 00:36:07,680
Speaker 4: to make the fights for the fans. He always talk

860
00:36:07,719 --> 00:36:09,120
Speaker 4: about I want to give the fans what they want

861
00:36:09,120 --> 00:36:11,120
Speaker 4: to see. You don't have too many fighters stand at today,

862
00:36:11,160 --> 00:36:12,640
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying a lot of I want

863
00:36:12,680 --> 00:36:13,759
Speaker 4: to make sure there's a great fight for me.

864
00:36:13,760 --> 00:36:15,000
Speaker 1: I want to make sure the money's right.

865
00:36:15,160 --> 00:36:17,200
Speaker 4: He's doing stuff for the fans and that's refreshing to

866
00:36:17,239 --> 00:36:18,960
Speaker 4: hit that from a guy like me who's a true

867
00:36:19,000 --> 00:36:19,520
Speaker 4: boxing fan.

868
00:36:19,600 --> 00:36:22,640
Speaker 1: Also, like one thing I love about David style. Listen,

869
00:36:22,760 --> 00:36:25,280
Speaker 1: I don't begrudge a fighter for fighting smart, because sometimes

870
00:36:25,360 --> 00:36:26,799
Speaker 1: you gotta do it. You gotta get it the dub

871
00:36:26,800 --> 00:36:29,480
Speaker 1: and just get out. And I'm not saying he fights recklessly,

872
00:36:29,719 --> 00:36:31,480
Speaker 1: but he has a square stance. We talked about with

873
00:36:31,560 --> 00:36:34,360
Speaker 1: him yesterday and he defended why he fights right in

874
00:36:34,440 --> 00:36:37,719
Speaker 1: front of you like that. You know, if it's a

875
00:36:37,800 --> 00:36:41,640
Speaker 1: David Benavidez fight, it's going to be action, right. He

876
00:36:41,680 --> 00:36:45,360
Speaker 1: doesn't have any other gear. That's what he does, right,

877
00:36:45,560 --> 00:36:48,319
Speaker 1: There's no second game where he's slipping and rolling and

878
00:36:48,360 --> 00:36:51,960
Speaker 1: turning it marching you down at all times in your face.

879
00:36:52,280 --> 00:36:55,479
Speaker 1: It's just a matter of when the damn breaks really right, right, right?

880
00:36:55,760 --> 00:36:56,840
Speaker 1: I love to see it, though.

881
00:36:56,680 --> 00:36:58,479
Speaker 2: Stack, I gotta talk about your time with the og

882
00:36:59,120 --> 00:37:01,520
Speaker 2: Roy Jones on this first episode of Fight Towns. We

883
00:37:01,640 --> 00:37:03,719
Speaker 2: have a clip to throw to. We'll be back on

884
00:37:03,760 --> 00:37:10,520
Speaker 2: the other side. Remember that name for it, buck It

885
00:37:10,920 --> 00:37:11,719
Speaker 2: tell me luck you.

886
00:37:13,200 --> 00:37:15,640
Speaker 5: When you you get it, You know what I'm saying.

887
00:37:15,760 --> 00:37:17,759
Speaker 1: So dope, Me and royd just got us some shots here.

888
00:37:18,280 --> 00:37:20,520
Speaker 1: We're here checking in what David Benny be there.

889
00:37:20,600 --> 00:37:22,520
Speaker 4: So we want to pop up on him because he's

890
00:37:22,560 --> 00:37:23,720
Speaker 4: a big fan of Roy Jones.

891
00:37:23,760 --> 00:37:25,680
Speaker 1: He's getting ready for his fight coming up. Let's see

892
00:37:25,680 --> 00:37:30,960
Speaker 1: what he got going on. Man, forgot, forgot, forgot, can't

893
00:37:31,040 --> 00:37:33,680
Speaker 1: get god God?

894
00:37:34,560 --> 00:37:37,920
Speaker 5: Yeah, of course, of course, of course we'll right now

895
00:37:39,360 --> 00:37:42,000
Speaker 5: he's fighting box it right, Yeah, he's right here, right, yeah.

896
00:37:42,080 --> 00:37:44,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, So what you wanted You want to go this way? Yeah?

897
00:37:45,160 --> 00:37:46,239
Speaker 1: You want to force him to go.

898
00:37:46,160 --> 00:37:48,560
Speaker 5: To his right, right, because the comflamation from the move

899
00:37:48,640 --> 00:37:49,160
Speaker 5: is to his left.

900
00:37:49,239 --> 00:37:51,320
Speaker 1: Yeah he's comfort, he complated.

901
00:37:51,040 --> 00:37:53,359
Speaker 6: I'm in this position and now now you messed him up,

902
00:37:53,440 --> 00:37:54,200
Speaker 6: gonna get too cold.

903
00:37:54,440 --> 00:37:56,960
Speaker 1: It's gonna we're gonna give him too much. Your poptack

904
00:37:56,960 --> 00:37:59,160
Speaker 1: gotta get too cold. What you wanna do is keep yourself.

905
00:37:59,520 --> 00:38:01,520
Speaker 1: I keep it up on you. Keep that he's talking

906
00:38:01,520 --> 00:38:02,200
Speaker 1: to him, keep that.

907
00:38:02,840 --> 00:38:05,880
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, nothing he can do.

908
00:38:05,920 --> 00:38:08,120
Speaker 1: Now what I've been watching about you. I know here

909
00:38:08,160 --> 00:38:10,680
Speaker 1: you can do a leaping. I'm get some there you

910
00:38:10,760 --> 00:38:13,399
Speaker 1: go exact fus up? So where that goes? This? When

911
00:38:13,440 --> 00:38:14,520
Speaker 1: you go here see.

912
00:38:14,280 --> 00:38:14,919
Speaker 2: The sort of fault.

913
00:38:15,080 --> 00:38:16,200
Speaker 1: I'm met David.

914
00:38:15,880 --> 00:38:17,879
Speaker 4: Pobbins about four or five years ago, and I've been

915
00:38:17,880 --> 00:38:21,000
Speaker 4: a fan of David, and I'm one of those guys.

916
00:38:21,160 --> 00:38:23,040
Speaker 4: If I'm a fan of you, whatever you want I want.

917
00:38:23,239 --> 00:38:24,800
Speaker 4: I want to see him fight Danello. He wants to

918
00:38:24,800 --> 00:38:25,279
Speaker 4: fight the Neelo.

919
00:38:25,440 --> 00:38:28,040
Speaker 1: It's a few guys that in boxing that not only.

920
00:38:27,840 --> 00:38:29,239
Speaker 4: I'm just a fan of, but I really want to

921
00:38:29,239 --> 00:38:31,160
Speaker 4: see them succeed, and David is one of them.

922
00:38:31,719 --> 00:38:36,000
Speaker 5: Come on, so when he moving, now you go left?

923
00:38:36,000 --> 00:38:37,600
Speaker 5: That you will so you know you can go back away?

924
00:38:37,600 --> 00:38:39,120
Speaker 5: You go you try to stay away from me? S

925
00:38:39,280 --> 00:38:40,680
Speaker 5: you kind of I gotta come here. You know, I'm saying,

926
00:38:40,719 --> 00:38:42,120
Speaker 5: he goes back, gotta come here and cut it up.

927
00:38:42,200 --> 00:38:43,680
Speaker 5: But he goes back, gotta come here, cut it up.

928
00:38:43,840 --> 00:38:45,479
Speaker 5: I can't never let him look down at my faith.

929
00:38:45,640 --> 00:38:48,600
Speaker 5: He you go, Dad, you go, yeah, now exactly. But

930
00:38:48,680 --> 00:38:51,239
Speaker 5: now now you got control the pope him Jack, you

931
00:38:51,280 --> 00:38:51,640
Speaker 5: can troll.

932
00:38:51,760 --> 00:38:53,080
Speaker 1: You can troll the poke his hands.

933
00:38:53,120 --> 00:38:56,839
Speaker 5: Now that's had to fight at exactly exactly.

934
00:38:57,560 --> 00:38:57,759
Speaker 2: Egg.

935
00:39:00,160 --> 00:39:02,960
Speaker 1: I'm down. I'm down. I'm having to be here. I'm

936
00:39:02,960 --> 00:39:03,440
Speaker 1: not scared.

937
00:39:04,960 --> 00:39:06,560
Speaker 4: I ain't scared of shit. I'm bigger than him too.

938
00:39:06,800 --> 00:39:08,959
Speaker 4: I got the size of advantage against David. He came

939
00:39:09,080 --> 00:39:11,080
Speaker 4: close to my mouth. I was worried for a second.

940
00:39:11,880 --> 00:39:12,840
Speaker 4: I was real worried.

941
00:39:13,320 --> 00:39:14,960
Speaker 1: I thought he's gonna connect when I was gonna be.

942
00:39:23,600 --> 00:39:26,600
Speaker 2: Stack. It seems like Roy has not lost the alpha

943
00:39:26,760 --> 00:39:28,480
Speaker 2: inside of him at all.

944
00:39:28,760 --> 00:39:32,200
Speaker 4: Not at all, and his passion to giving the game

945
00:39:32,200 --> 00:39:35,040
Speaker 4: back to the youngsters is unreal. I think that's all

946
00:39:35,080 --> 00:39:36,799
Speaker 4: he really talked about when we told him he was

947
00:39:36,800 --> 00:39:38,960
Speaker 4: going to the gym to see Ben to Videz. I

948
00:39:38,960 --> 00:39:41,239
Speaker 4: think he lit up more than Ben to Videz. You know,

949
00:39:41,320 --> 00:39:43,600
Speaker 4: he was excited, and I got I was so excited.

950
00:39:43,600 --> 00:39:45,719
Speaker 4: To get called into the ring. You know, if you

951
00:39:45,760 --> 00:39:48,000
Speaker 4: watch the show, I kind of was feeling myself a

952
00:39:48,040 --> 00:39:49,600
Speaker 4: little bit because I was having my hands up when

953
00:39:49,600 --> 00:39:51,759
Speaker 4: I was moving and David Stecker's hand out and kind

954
00:39:51,760 --> 00:39:53,640
Speaker 4: of knocked his hand down, Like hold on feeling myself

955
00:39:53,640 --> 00:39:55,440
Speaker 4: a little bit too much. I was having too much

956
00:39:55,440 --> 00:39:59,080
Speaker 4: fun in that ring. But Roy Jones, I just from

957
00:39:59,080 --> 00:40:01,040
Speaker 4: me watching, I was watching the footwork, just the little

958
00:40:01,080 --> 00:40:07,360
Speaker 4: things he was teaching David. It shows that like not

959
00:40:07,520 --> 00:40:09,920
Speaker 4: lifting weights and just like the one step that he

960
00:40:10,000 --> 00:40:12,080
Speaker 4: showed David and throwing the hook made all the difference

961
00:40:12,120 --> 00:40:14,040
Speaker 4: in the world. So it's like it's really like we say,

962
00:40:14,040 --> 00:40:17,680
Speaker 4: the fundamentals, the fundamentals and been boxing are the same way,

963
00:40:17,800 --> 00:40:20,120
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. It's you got guys like

964
00:40:20,200 --> 00:40:23,160
Speaker 4: David that's really done everything in boxing. But Roy was

965
00:40:23,200 --> 00:40:26,360
Speaker 4: telling him just little things, fundamental things to add to

966
00:40:26,400 --> 00:40:28,400
Speaker 4: his game that he was wild by, you know what

967
00:40:28,400 --> 00:40:29,919
Speaker 4: I'm saying, The things that he probably could have learned,

968
00:40:29,960 --> 00:40:31,560
Speaker 4: you know, at a young age where Roy is still

969
00:40:31,560 --> 00:40:33,640
Speaker 4: teaching him those things. So it was good to see

970
00:40:33,760 --> 00:40:35,560
Speaker 4: Roy give the game back to David and him and

971
00:40:35,680 --> 00:40:36,759
Speaker 4: David accepted as well.

972
00:40:37,320 --> 00:40:40,719
Speaker 1: Roy's you know, it's interesting, right because like he broke

973
00:40:40,800 --> 00:40:42,440
Speaker 1: all the rules when he played, you know.

974
00:40:42,440 --> 00:40:44,719
Speaker 2: What I mean talking about one hands up?

975
00:40:44,840 --> 00:40:48,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, and then yet yet you can see like encyclopedic

976
00:40:48,800 --> 00:40:52,960
Speaker 1: knowledge of what what what comes with boxing. I guess

977
00:40:53,000 --> 00:40:55,040
Speaker 1: he doesn't have the time to train, but he certainly

978
00:40:55,040 --> 00:40:57,920
Speaker 1: got the brain power to share some wisdom.

979
00:40:57,960 --> 00:41:00,880
Speaker 4: Incredible, incredible, he say, still trains, he said with his dogs.

980
00:41:00,960 --> 00:41:02,560
Speaker 4: His feet he says, his feet be killing him.

981
00:41:02,640 --> 00:41:07,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean he was fifty basically, Yeah, Stack, I

982
00:41:07,360 --> 00:41:09,080
Speaker 2: got it. Because you're a basketball guy and we are

983
00:41:09,080 --> 00:41:09,920
Speaker 2: in the midst of the finals.

984
00:41:10,560 --> 00:41:12,080
Speaker 1: I'm stay by how it's going on.

985
00:41:12,320 --> 00:41:14,160
Speaker 2: I'm a Celtics fan, so I'm allowed to say this

986
00:41:15,480 --> 00:41:17,800
Speaker 2: does don't you just need to man up and stop

987
00:41:17,840 --> 00:41:18,520
Speaker 2: being a bit.

988
00:41:19,200 --> 00:41:22,520
Speaker 4: Well, I just you know, let's just give credit when

989
00:41:22,560 --> 00:41:25,239
Speaker 4: credit is due. They're playing against the better team, and

990
00:41:25,280 --> 00:41:26,520
Speaker 4: that's what it all boss down to.

991
00:41:27,520 --> 00:41:29,719
Speaker 1: What's everybody they.

992
00:41:29,239 --> 00:41:33,040
Speaker 2: Love that five? Yeah, that's what I'm talking about. They're

993
00:41:33,080 --> 00:41:35,440
Speaker 2: not here for you, and I think they want to

994
00:41:35,520 --> 00:41:38,400
Speaker 2: dress like this. That's it's definitely the shirt.

995
00:41:39,360 --> 00:41:41,359
Speaker 4: They they playing against the better team, man, That's what

996
00:41:41,400 --> 00:41:43,960
Speaker 4: it boss down to. Yes, they was able to get

997
00:41:44,000 --> 00:41:46,600
Speaker 4: out of the Western Conference. They played well against those teams.

998
00:41:46,960 --> 00:41:50,360
Speaker 4: But Boston is the most seasoned team in the NBA

999
00:41:50,520 --> 00:41:52,399
Speaker 4: and the most seasoned team in the playoffs. You gotta

1000
00:41:52,400 --> 00:41:55,000
Speaker 4: think Boston has been to the finals and loss. Boston

1001
00:41:55,040 --> 00:41:56,960
Speaker 4: has been to the East Conference finals with three out

1002
00:41:57,000 --> 00:42:00,440
Speaker 4: of the last four years. So this team has everything

1003
00:42:00,480 --> 00:42:02,760
Speaker 4: they need to win the championship. So if they didn't

1004
00:42:02,760 --> 00:42:04,879
Speaker 4: win it this year, it was gonna be a bad

1005
00:42:04,920 --> 00:42:08,640
Speaker 4: look for Boston because you don't get that opportunity all

1006
00:42:08,640 --> 00:42:11,080
Speaker 4: the time. This was their year to win it and

1007
00:42:11,120 --> 00:42:13,520
Speaker 4: their season that moment. They are the better team all

1008
00:42:13,560 --> 00:42:16,399
Speaker 4: the way around. Their play seven deep, you have two

1009
00:42:16,400 --> 00:42:18,640
Speaker 4: guys you have to worry about with the Dallas Mavericks.

1010
00:42:18,719 --> 00:42:21,000
Speaker 4: On Boston side, you got worry about seven guys, right.

1011
00:42:21,040 --> 00:42:22,880
Speaker 4: You can double two guys in Dallas. You can't double

1012
00:42:22,920 --> 00:42:25,200
Speaker 4: anybody in Boston, and they're showing it. You have to

1013
00:42:25,360 --> 00:42:28,839
Speaker 4: just not It's not really just Kyrie getting dead up

1014
00:42:29,520 --> 00:42:31,920
Speaker 4: missing shots and not Lucas just arguing with the referees

1015
00:42:31,920 --> 00:42:32,520
Speaker 4: and missing shots.

1016
00:42:33,080 --> 00:42:36,319
Speaker 1: It's Boston the better team. They're so balanced, and that's

1017
00:42:36,320 --> 00:42:37,080
Speaker 1: what people need to say.

1018
00:42:37,080 --> 00:42:39,840
Speaker 4: People are trying to say Lucas off Kyrie's off. Boston

1019
00:42:39,920 --> 00:42:41,800
Speaker 4: is just a better team and that's why they're winning

1020
00:42:41,800 --> 00:42:42,680
Speaker 4: by large amounts.

1021
00:42:42,920 --> 00:42:46,239
Speaker 2: Deal with that. I guess that's what he's saying. I

1022
00:42:46,320 --> 00:42:47,200
Speaker 2: got one moment, and.

1023
00:42:47,960 --> 00:42:50,600
Speaker 4: You know what, I'm rooting for Kyrie and Luca. Myself,

1024
00:42:50,600 --> 00:42:53,120
Speaker 4: I said Dallas was gonna win it. I said, I

1025
00:42:53,120 --> 00:42:55,800
Speaker 4: wanted Dallas to win, but I knew Boston this is

1026
00:42:55,840 --> 00:42:56,520
Speaker 4: their opportunity.

1027
00:42:56,640 --> 00:42:58,600
Speaker 1: What do you think that is it gonna be a sweep?

1028
00:42:59,000 --> 00:43:00,200
Speaker 1: I think you can pull a brooms up.

1029
00:43:00,920 --> 00:43:04,239
Speaker 4: I mean, in order for the series to go on,

1030
00:43:05,560 --> 00:43:07,600
Speaker 4: Luca and Kyrie gonna have to have mega games at

1031
00:43:07,600 --> 00:43:10,200
Speaker 4: the same time. But they're still not beating Boston four

1032
00:43:10,239 --> 00:43:10,799
Speaker 4: times in a row.

1033
00:43:10,840 --> 00:43:12,600
Speaker 1: I think the I think the third leading scorer for

1034
00:43:12,640 --> 00:43:14,440
Speaker 1: the last game heading into the fourth quarter had like

1035
00:43:14,480 --> 00:43:17,080
Speaker 1: six points for Dallas. Yeah, like, you just can't win

1036
00:43:17,120 --> 00:43:18,160
Speaker 1: doing that. You just can't.

1037
00:43:18,560 --> 00:43:20,520
Speaker 2: Can I have come to terms. We don't agree on much,

1038
00:43:20,560 --> 00:43:22,200
Speaker 2: but we come to terms and agree that in the

1039
00:43:22,239 --> 00:43:24,320
Speaker 2: two thousand and eight finals, which is that proposed the

1040
00:43:24,360 --> 00:43:27,000
Speaker 2: last time the Celtics won the championship that when Paul

1041
00:43:27,040 --> 00:43:28,880
Speaker 2: Pierce got into the wheelchair, it was because he shipped

1042
00:43:28,920 --> 00:43:30,960
Speaker 2: his pants. Can you confirm or deny that rumor.

1043
00:43:32,280 --> 00:43:34,719
Speaker 4: We all thought that. The whole world thought that. I

1044
00:43:34,760 --> 00:43:36,880
Speaker 4: think he tried. I think he cleared it up. I

1045
00:43:36,880 --> 00:43:39,399
Speaker 4: think I don't even he said they pulled. He said

1046
00:43:39,400 --> 00:43:41,239
Speaker 4: that he did asked him to pull the wheel trip.

1047
00:43:41,280 --> 00:43:43,920
Speaker 4: I said they did that. They did that on his own.

1048
00:43:44,640 --> 00:43:44,960
Speaker 4: I don't know.

1049
00:43:45,440 --> 00:43:48,080
Speaker 1: They might have shared death revealed one day coming from

1050
00:43:48,120 --> 00:43:49,959
Speaker 1: that guy. He might have a shark.

1051
00:43:50,080 --> 00:43:52,560
Speaker 2: Just Lucas said this many times. He just wants to legit,

1052
00:43:52,680 --> 00:43:54,440
Speaker 2: like make it okay again, to ship your pants, just

1053
00:43:54,440 --> 00:43:55,120
Speaker 2: like it's not a big deal.

1054
00:43:55,200 --> 00:43:55,600
Speaker 1: I don't care.

1055
00:43:56,080 --> 00:43:59,320
Speaker 4: I'm it's not okay, but if I mean sometimes you

1056
00:43:59,400 --> 00:44:00,440
Speaker 4: might not be able to hold it.

1057
00:44:00,480 --> 00:44:00,719
Speaker 1: You know.

1058
00:44:01,760 --> 00:44:04,000
Speaker 2: There it is stack. We could not have enjoyed this more.

1059
00:44:04,640 --> 00:44:07,279
Speaker 2: All the Smoke Fight, the new Combat Sports vertical, the

1060
00:44:07,280 --> 00:44:10,120
Speaker 2: same old flavor that you love from the showtime Boxing

1061
00:44:10,200 --> 00:44:13,160
Speaker 2: Days is back us back together. Can't wait to see

1062
00:44:13,320 --> 00:44:16,399
Speaker 2: the continuation of Fight Towns, our coverage on the road

1063
00:44:16,400 --> 00:44:19,120
Speaker 2: at the end and everything that we're all adding together.

1064
00:44:19,160 --> 00:44:19,680
Speaker 2: Thank you for.

1065
00:44:19,640 --> 00:44:21,960
Speaker 1: Doing the Smoke podcast as well. Go get your all

1066
00:44:21,960 --> 00:44:26,839
Speaker 1: the Smoke podcasts and your neils. Oh yeahs, yes I did.

1067
00:44:26,960 --> 00:44:29,759
Speaker 1: As you like it. It's incredible. Okay, I wanted you guys.

1068
00:44:29,800 --> 00:44:31,160
Speaker 4: I think I need a bottle of that on you

1069
00:44:31,360 --> 00:44:34,600
Speaker 4: don't say less, you guys get fucked.

1070
00:44:37,520 --> 00:44:39,719
Speaker 2: Thank you to stack. We are now going to throw

1071
00:44:39,800 --> 00:44:43,000
Speaker 2: to our sit down with David Benavidez yesterday from Radio

1072
00:44:43,080 --> 00:44:45,520
Speaker 2: Row and on the other side, more UFC News breakdown,

1073
00:44:45,880 --> 00:44:49,759
Speaker 2: Boxing the sphere so much more. Be right back, Ell

1074
00:44:49,880 --> 00:44:51,080
Speaker 2: moonstro is here.

1075
00:44:51,280 --> 00:44:51,640
Speaker 1: David.

1076
00:44:52,320 --> 00:44:54,200
Speaker 2: I think I'm trying my best to get that fill

1077
00:44:55,520 --> 00:44:57,880
Speaker 2: because you know I speak ringo, So how should I

1078
00:44:57,920 --> 00:44:58,120
Speaker 2: say it?

1079
00:44:58,200 --> 00:45:01,160
Speaker 1: David Benavidez, you put that? Yeah, we got to hear you.

1080
00:45:01,200 --> 00:45:03,279
Speaker 1: There we go, There we go with the fresh fight

1081
00:45:03,360 --> 00:45:03,760
Speaker 1: and everything.

1082
00:45:04,480 --> 00:45:06,320
Speaker 2: I was gonna say, the best super middleweight in the

1083
00:45:06,320 --> 00:45:08,040
Speaker 2: world just walked in right right.

1084
00:45:08,080 --> 00:45:09,360
Speaker 1: But he's going up to them.

1085
00:45:09,239 --> 00:45:10,759
Speaker 6: He's going to kill in the best super middleweight in

1086
00:45:10,760 --> 00:45:11,000
Speaker 6: the world.

1087
00:45:11,320 --> 00:45:12,040
Speaker 2: He's going up to one.

1088
00:45:12,080 --> 00:45:13,799
Speaker 1: What's your what's your walk around weight?

1089
00:45:13,880 --> 00:45:19,439
Speaker 3: If yeah, like two thirty forty, I'm sorry, I'm playing

1090
00:45:19,480 --> 00:45:19,719
Speaker 3: with you.

1091
00:45:19,719 --> 00:45:21,520
Speaker 1: No like two hundred pounds?

1092
00:45:21,520 --> 00:45:23,360
Speaker 2: Okay, Okay, I don't. I don't want to stress the

1093
00:45:23,400 --> 00:45:26,360
Speaker 2: Canelo topic or pin you down, but I think we

1094
00:45:26,440 --> 00:45:30,319
Speaker 2: gotta get through it. Okay, are you done caring and

1095
00:45:30,520 --> 00:45:33,360
Speaker 2: or chasing and or potentially cutting your body to potential

1096
00:45:33,400 --> 00:45:35,600
Speaker 2: to one sixty eight to fight that man. Where are

1097
00:45:35,640 --> 00:45:37,719
Speaker 2: you at in your headspace on that thing that we

1098
00:45:37,760 --> 00:45:38,680
Speaker 2: can't stop talking about?

1099
00:45:38,719 --> 00:45:41,400
Speaker 3: Well, you know, I to be honest with you, I

1100
00:45:41,400 --> 00:45:44,040
Speaker 3: did everything in my power possible to make that fight happen.

1101
00:45:44,320 --> 00:45:45,520
Speaker 6: I beat the fighters that they.

1102
00:45:45,360 --> 00:45:47,759
Speaker 3: Told me I couldn't beat, and I was number one

1103
00:45:47,760 --> 00:45:49,360
Speaker 3: contender for the past three years.

1104
00:45:49,840 --> 00:45:51,439
Speaker 6: But I have my hands tied.

1105
00:45:51,480 --> 00:45:51,640
Speaker 1: You know.

1106
00:45:51,680 --> 00:45:53,959
Speaker 3: I did everything in my power possible to make it happen.

1107
00:45:54,080 --> 00:45:55,960
Speaker 3: The only reason this fighter has happened not happening because

1108
00:45:56,000 --> 00:45:58,040
Speaker 3: Canelo doesn't want it to happen, because he knows damn

1109
00:45:58,080 --> 00:45:59,759
Speaker 3: well that once he faces me, I'm taking all this

1110
00:45:59,840 --> 00:46:00,560
Speaker 3: time was home on me.

1111
00:46:00,920 --> 00:46:02,799
Speaker 2: Do you Is there any party that's saying, well, he's

1112
00:46:02,800 --> 00:46:04,680
Speaker 2: just trying to raise the price tag Saudi Arabia is

1113
00:46:04,719 --> 00:46:06,480
Speaker 2: here and that's changing things, you.

1114
00:46:06,400 --> 00:46:06,879
Speaker 6: Know what I mean.

1115
00:46:06,920 --> 00:46:09,400
Speaker 3: I can't keep thinking about what he's doing, what his

1116
00:46:09,440 --> 00:46:12,719
Speaker 3: strategy is. I've done my job. I've done my job perfectly,

1117
00:46:12,760 --> 00:46:16,239
Speaker 3: and I think it will happen. I just don't know

1118
00:46:16,280 --> 00:46:17,839
Speaker 3: when I think this is too big of a fight

1119
00:46:17,920 --> 00:46:19,840
Speaker 3: to leave on the table like that and you know,

1120
00:46:19,880 --> 00:46:22,920
Speaker 3: everybody wants to see this fight, and I want to

1121
00:46:22,960 --> 00:46:24,239
Speaker 3: be in this fight included you know what I mean.

1122
00:46:24,239 --> 00:46:25,680
Speaker 3: I want I want to show the people I am

1123
00:46:25,719 --> 00:46:27,399
Speaker 3: the best of the world, but I don't know when

1124
00:46:27,480 --> 00:46:27,919
Speaker 3: is gonna happen.

1125
00:46:27,960 --> 00:46:29,799
Speaker 2: A right final question for me on this James Tony

1126
00:46:29,840 --> 00:46:31,520
Speaker 2: sat in that chair and called Canelo a bitch to

1127
00:46:31,560 --> 00:46:34,200
Speaker 2: the camera. You seem to still keep a very business

1128
00:46:34,280 --> 00:46:36,560
Speaker 2: like level head. You're not out there saying Canelo do

1129
00:46:36,719 --> 00:46:38,000
Speaker 2: have to do a piss on your lawn. You're just

1130
00:46:38,000 --> 00:46:39,720
Speaker 2: sort of like, all right, you don't.

1131
00:46:39,600 --> 00:46:40,160
Speaker 6: Want the smoke.

1132
00:46:40,239 --> 00:46:43,520
Speaker 2: I'm making my own name here. Was there a moment

1133
00:46:43,560 --> 00:46:46,160
Speaker 2: that changed or was it always sort of the way

1134
00:46:46,160 --> 00:46:48,320
Speaker 2: where it's like I don't need him to define my career.

1135
00:46:48,360 --> 00:46:50,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's always been like that since I was a

1136
00:46:50,200 --> 00:46:52,319
Speaker 3: little kid. I never had that thought on my head, like, oh,

1137
00:46:52,520 --> 00:46:55,239
Speaker 3: I'm all want to face Canelo. My main objective is

1138
00:46:55,280 --> 00:46:57,319
Speaker 3: to become the best at whatever way class I'm in,

1139
00:46:57,719 --> 00:46:59,359
Speaker 3: and I was trying to do that one six day,

1140
00:46:59,360 --> 00:47:00,879
Speaker 3: I was trying to unify the titles, but I didn't

1141
00:47:00,880 --> 00:47:03,600
Speaker 3: get that opportunity, so I came out to one seventy five. Now,

1142
00:47:03,640 --> 00:47:05,239
Speaker 3: this fight is gonna put me in position to fight

1143
00:47:05,280 --> 00:47:07,120
Speaker 3: for all the titles that won seventy five, and I'm

1144
00:47:07,120 --> 00:47:09,759
Speaker 3: gonna continue being dominant force in whatever weight class i'm in.

1145
00:47:10,040 --> 00:47:12,640
Speaker 1: Who wins would better be even Billvoll finally score off.

1146
00:47:12,719 --> 00:47:16,560
Speaker 3: I'm leaning more towards Bevoll, but I can't say because

1147
00:47:16,560 --> 00:47:17,480
Speaker 3: they're both great fighters.

1148
00:47:17,480 --> 00:47:18,560
Speaker 6: So it's a fifty to fifty fight.

1149
00:47:18,880 --> 00:47:21,000
Speaker 1: But you lean Bilvoll. Tell me why you at least

1150
00:47:21,040 --> 00:47:21,760
Speaker 1: leaned that directly.

1151
00:47:21,800 --> 00:47:24,240
Speaker 3: Because he's a hard puncher and he's a he's a boxer.

1152
00:47:25,320 --> 00:47:27,319
Speaker 3: He moved, meaning he moves around a.

1153
00:47:27,280 --> 00:47:28,359
Speaker 1: Lot, as you can see.

1154
00:47:28,600 --> 00:47:30,200
Speaker 3: Better be if he had a hard time with all

1155
00:47:30,239 --> 00:47:33,360
Speaker 3: he's under Buzznick, and Buzznick was boxing him. But his

1156
00:47:33,440 --> 00:47:36,000
Speaker 3: punching power is not like Dvols, So I think for

1157
00:47:36,040 --> 00:47:39,120
Speaker 3: that reason he's he's gonna have his hands full.

1158
00:47:39,000 --> 00:47:40,680
Speaker 6: Of bevol And that's why I'm leaning towards Bevoll.

1159
00:47:40,840 --> 00:47:42,600
Speaker 2: I gotta jump in and ask you something because there

1160
00:47:42,600 --> 00:47:44,760
Speaker 2: was a man in this chair earlier, Stephen Breadman Edwards,

1161
00:47:44,760 --> 00:47:47,440
Speaker 2: who we love, who said I'm not breaking any you

1162
00:47:47,480 --> 00:47:49,600
Speaker 2: know news here. This is knowledge that David Ben and

1163
00:47:49,680 --> 00:47:52,880
Speaker 2: Vida's fault. All these light heavyweights and sparring before, and

1164
00:47:52,880 --> 00:47:53,640
Speaker 2: it kind of fit.

1165
00:47:55,440 --> 00:47:57,520
Speaker 3: Put it on all of them, on on all of them,

1166
00:47:57,560 --> 00:47:59,240
Speaker 3: and they know that to it. But I'm not showing

1167
00:47:59,280 --> 00:48:01,480
Speaker 3: no disrespect. They're all great fighters, and I know I

1168
00:48:01,520 --> 00:48:04,279
Speaker 3: had to come one hundred percent prepare for each one

1169
00:48:04,320 --> 00:48:05,680
Speaker 3: of them because all these guys are beasts.

1170
00:48:06,239 --> 00:48:09,040
Speaker 1: Is there an expiration date in terms of how like

1171
00:48:09,360 --> 00:48:11,000
Speaker 1: you can't make one sixty eight anymore?

1172
00:48:11,320 --> 00:48:13,680
Speaker 6: No, I can make one sixty eight. But for what

1173
00:48:13,760 --> 00:48:14,000
Speaker 6: for what?

1174
00:48:14,320 --> 00:48:15,920
Speaker 1: For what? Just just the opportunity.

1175
00:48:16,000 --> 00:48:18,279
Speaker 3: Yeah, just the opportunity. I could definitely make one sixty eight.

1176
00:48:18,360 --> 00:48:21,719
Speaker 3: But that's why this fight is perfect. It was a

1177
00:48:21,719 --> 00:48:23,760
Speaker 3: perfect time to come up to one seventy five because

1178
00:48:24,040 --> 00:48:26,479
Speaker 3: I had did everything in my power possible to fight

1179
00:48:26,520 --> 00:48:28,719
Speaker 3: for all the belts. But because that's not given to me,

1180
00:48:28,840 --> 00:48:30,479
Speaker 3: now I get to test my skills.

1181
00:48:30,520 --> 00:48:32,160
Speaker 1: I won seventy five. Could I talk about how you

1182
00:48:32,200 --> 00:48:35,239
Speaker 1: developed your style, because obviously you are extremely effective. You

1183
00:48:35,239 --> 00:48:37,759
Speaker 1: walk people down, and I'm not here to in any

1184
00:48:37,800 --> 00:48:40,239
Speaker 1: way honor the haters that you see online. But one

1185
00:48:40,280 --> 00:48:41,960
Speaker 1: of the things people bring up is we have a

1186
00:48:41,960 --> 00:48:44,719
Speaker 1: squared stance at all times, but it completely works for you.

1187
00:48:45,080 --> 00:48:46,960
Speaker 3: It's if you take a look at the square stance.

1188
00:48:46,960 --> 00:48:50,040
Speaker 3: That's an art that not everybody could perfect. Julio SAYSA

1189
00:48:50,120 --> 00:48:55,160
Speaker 3: Chavis did it to perfection. That means you're basically amberdexterrous.

1190
00:48:55,920 --> 00:48:56,560
Speaker 1: Use both hands.

1191
00:48:56,560 --> 00:48:59,080
Speaker 3: I could use the lefty stance, or you could use

1192
00:48:59,280 --> 00:49:02,600
Speaker 3: the orthodox stands. So if you know how to use it,

1193
00:49:02,600 --> 00:49:04,520
Speaker 3: if you're comfortable. You see me and all my fights,

1194
00:49:04,520 --> 00:49:07,000
Speaker 3: I've used it pretty well. And the people that are

1195
00:49:07,120 --> 00:49:09,080
Speaker 3: complaining about that because they don't know how to do that.

1196
00:49:09,640 --> 00:49:13,279
Speaker 1: How did you develop that style despite coaches telling you

1197
00:49:13,320 --> 00:49:13,720
Speaker 1: to stop?

1198
00:49:13,880 --> 00:49:16,800
Speaker 6: Or my dad never told me to stop.

1199
00:49:16,880 --> 00:49:19,200
Speaker 3: My dad, first of all, we'd work on the job

1200
00:49:19,320 --> 00:49:21,080
Speaker 3: opening them up, and then once we get them to

1201
00:49:21,080 --> 00:49:24,839
Speaker 3: the corners, then you start to pick. But boxing is

1202
00:49:25,520 --> 00:49:27,480
Speaker 3: you have to pull hat tricks out of your hat,

1203
00:49:27,640 --> 00:49:29,719
Speaker 3: meaning that you have to touch here, you have to

1204
00:49:29,719 --> 00:49:33,040
Speaker 3: touch there. You have to be really unpredictable. And how

1205
00:49:33,160 --> 00:49:35,640
Speaker 3: is it to be the most unpredictable change from left.

1206
00:49:35,440 --> 00:49:36,000
Speaker 1: To to righting?

1207
00:49:36,360 --> 00:49:38,880
Speaker 3: And that's what we've been doing our whole career, and

1208
00:49:38,920 --> 00:49:41,640
Speaker 3: it's been working for us a lot, and you know,

1209
00:49:42,160 --> 00:49:45,800
Speaker 3: and feel I feel good and happy that I'm part

1210
00:49:45,960 --> 00:49:47,960
Speaker 3: of the few that could actually do that type of style,

1211
00:49:48,000 --> 00:49:49,480
Speaker 3: because that style does not work for everybody.

1212
00:49:49,520 --> 00:49:49,799
Speaker 1: All Right.

1213
00:49:49,800 --> 00:49:52,359
Speaker 2: We saw members of your team vaping before, and that

1214
00:49:52,400 --> 00:49:53,080
Speaker 2: look got.

1215
00:49:52,920 --> 00:49:55,720
Speaker 1: Fired up because he's like vapor vapors.

1216
00:49:56,000 --> 00:49:58,480
Speaker 2: He's like vaping is for closers. At this point in

1217
00:49:58,520 --> 00:50:01,080
Speaker 2: your career when you're can wait championship?

1218
00:50:01,120 --> 00:50:01,759
Speaker 1: Wait are you is this?

1219
00:50:01,920 --> 00:50:04,040
Speaker 2: Could there be nothing? No sugar, no cookies, no not Like,

1220
00:50:04,200 --> 00:50:06,200
Speaker 2: where are you having that spartan lifestyle where you can't

1221
00:50:06,200 --> 00:50:07,680
Speaker 2: even let anything in from the outside.

1222
00:50:07,680 --> 00:50:08,000
Speaker 1: I don't.

1223
00:50:08,040 --> 00:50:10,279
Speaker 3: I mean, I'm not gonna be that type of person.

1224
00:50:10,360 --> 00:50:12,560
Speaker 3: Be like, you can't do this again. They're growing, man,

1225
00:50:12,600 --> 00:50:14,319
Speaker 3: they do what whatever the heck they want to do.

1226
00:50:14,400 --> 00:50:18,600
Speaker 3: But for me, I take my job serious. Strictly water,

1227
00:50:19,120 --> 00:50:24,560
Speaker 3: no sugar, good protein, fish, chicken, salad, lots of tomatoes

1228
00:50:24,719 --> 00:50:26,680
Speaker 3: and uh you know, yeah, we try to cleep it,

1229
00:50:26,760 --> 00:50:27,800
Speaker 3: keep it as clean as possible.

1230
00:50:27,840 --> 00:50:29,600
Speaker 1: Hey, when did you It seems like I'm just from

1231
00:50:29,600 --> 00:50:31,680
Speaker 1: the outside looking in that you and your family like

1232
00:50:31,719 --> 00:50:34,520
Speaker 1: fell in love with Miami. When when did that happen?

1233
00:50:34,680 --> 00:50:35,239
Speaker 1: How did that happen?

1234
00:50:35,280 --> 00:50:38,640
Speaker 3: Always been in love with Miami, Miami's beautifulace, you guys, man, Yeah, yeah,

1235
00:50:39,160 --> 00:50:39,520
Speaker 3: see he.

1236
00:50:39,440 --> 00:50:42,200
Speaker 2: Loves these things called bbls. You heard this before. He

1237
00:50:42,280 --> 00:50:42,640
Speaker 2: loves that.

1238
00:50:43,000 --> 00:50:43,399
Speaker 6: It's great.

1239
00:50:43,440 --> 00:50:46,440
Speaker 1: Really, my wife's in South America. He never stops bringing

1240
00:50:46,480 --> 00:50:48,760
Speaker 1: it up. But in all seriousness, when did that happen?

1241
00:50:49,480 --> 00:50:51,400
Speaker 6: I've I've always visited Miami, and.

1242
00:50:52,880 --> 00:50:54,880
Speaker 3: Because I have family who lives there, but I just

1243
00:50:54,880 --> 00:50:56,000
Speaker 3: bought a condo out there.

1244
00:50:56,120 --> 00:50:58,640
Speaker 6: And yeah, it's just place.

1245
00:50:58,760 --> 00:51:00,759
Speaker 1: It's the capital of Latin America, is it. Yeah?

1246
00:51:00,760 --> 00:51:01,880
Speaker 6: And you know what, Miami.

1247
00:51:01,960 --> 00:51:03,560
Speaker 3: When I went out there, I didn't really think I

1248
00:51:03,560 --> 00:51:05,520
Speaker 3: was gonna get noticed like that, but people love boxing

1249
00:51:05,560 --> 00:51:08,480
Speaker 3: out there. Everywhere I go, people notice me, and it

1250
00:51:08,600 --> 00:51:10,800
Speaker 3: just feels like there's a lot of opportunity in Miami.

1251
00:51:11,040 --> 00:51:13,279
Speaker 3: I don't know, it just feels like, I don't know,

1252
00:51:13,440 --> 00:51:16,000
Speaker 3: there's just something different. When I went there, Roy Jones

1253
00:51:16,040 --> 00:51:22,040
Speaker 3: went rigging, dal went, Andre Durrell, a whole lot of fighters. Yeah,

1254
00:51:22,040 --> 00:51:24,879
Speaker 3: Mike Hoppinger out there, Ugas is out there. I didn't

1255
00:51:24,880 --> 00:51:26,239
Speaker 3: see him when I was there, but he's out there

1256
00:51:26,280 --> 00:51:29,000
Speaker 3: as well. And uh yeah, it's just a good environment,

1257
00:51:29,120 --> 00:51:31,879
Speaker 3: good environment, and you know, everybody's motivating, everybody's pumped up over.

1258
00:51:32,680 --> 00:51:35,120
Speaker 1: I will say this though, Miami very showy. You have to,

1259
00:51:35,400 --> 00:51:37,360
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like everyone's got nice cars.

1260
00:51:37,400 --> 00:51:39,560
Speaker 1: Everyone's got like, uh, he's.

1261
00:51:39,160 --> 00:51:39,920
Speaker 2: Pretty showy too.

1262
00:51:40,440 --> 00:51:42,319
Speaker 1: Nice. I saw the car. I saw the car in

1263
00:51:42,800 --> 00:51:45,720
Speaker 1: fit in du that car, the one that's metallic looking

1264
00:51:45,920 --> 00:51:48,759
Speaker 1: at Goldwin. How did you get that? Well?

1265
00:51:48,840 --> 00:51:50,600
Speaker 3: I bought it from the dealership and then I wrapped

1266
00:51:50,600 --> 00:51:52,440
Speaker 3: at gold That thing is amazing.

1267
00:51:53,040 --> 00:51:53,320
Speaker 1: Wow.

1268
00:51:53,520 --> 00:51:55,360
Speaker 2: All right, I got to ask you about Alexander Voskik,

1269
00:51:55,360 --> 00:51:57,320
Speaker 2: your opponent on Saturday. I got a lot of respect

1270
00:51:57,360 --> 00:51:59,920
Speaker 2: for him. He's thirty seven now though, three and oh

1271
00:52:00,040 --> 00:52:02,040
Speaker 2: on this comeback. What is the real challenge that he

1272
00:52:02,040 --> 00:52:03,600
Speaker 2: brings to the table for you on Saturday?

1273
00:52:03,719 --> 00:52:06,320
Speaker 3: You know, he's a very declarated fighter, declated and amateur

1274
00:52:06,360 --> 00:52:09,240
Speaker 3: Great X World champion. His only loss was to Better

1275
00:52:09,280 --> 00:52:12,040
Speaker 3: be It, but he actually knocked out Donald Stephen, once

1276
00:52:12,440 --> 00:52:15,680
Speaker 3: one of the most fierce light heavyweight champion in recent memory.

1277
00:52:16,160 --> 00:52:18,640
Speaker 3: So I'm definitely come one hundred percent prepared for this guy.

1278
00:52:18,680 --> 00:52:20,120
Speaker 3: I know what he could do, but I know I

1279
00:52:20,160 --> 00:52:22,560
Speaker 3: know his strengths, I know his weaknesses. But this is

1280
00:52:22,640 --> 00:52:24,279
Speaker 3: the challenge that I wanted to take and I want

1281
00:52:24,320 --> 00:52:25,920
Speaker 3: to show everybody that I am the best in the world.

1282
00:52:26,120 --> 00:52:28,680
Speaker 1: Do you think that this one any chance this one

1283
00:52:28,680 --> 00:52:29,640
Speaker 1: goes to distance? No?

1284
00:52:29,880 --> 00:52:31,920
Speaker 3: Hell no, I'm gonna knock out all those on a

1285
00:52:31,960 --> 00:52:35,080
Speaker 3: Bosnick you can mark my words. And I want to

1286
00:52:35,080 --> 00:52:36,840
Speaker 3: steal the show, you know, I mean, I definitely, I

1287
00:52:36,880 --> 00:52:39,600
Speaker 3: know I got stiff competition and Ravonte Davis and Frank

1288
00:52:39,640 --> 00:52:41,839
Speaker 3: Market are gonna do get out. But by the time

1289
00:52:41,880 --> 00:52:43,400
Speaker 3: this event is over, this is gonna be the day,

1290
00:52:43,560 --> 00:52:44,160
Speaker 3: gonna be the show.

1291
00:52:44,320 --> 00:52:47,000
Speaker 2: You seem to be one of the more beloved fighters

1292
00:52:47,000 --> 00:52:49,040
Speaker 2: of Turkey, Alaschko of Saudi Arabia that he seems to

1293
00:52:49,080 --> 00:52:50,960
Speaker 2: have his favorites and he mentions you a lot. Is

1294
00:52:50,960 --> 00:52:51,960
Speaker 2: there a budding friendship in.

1295
00:52:51,880 --> 00:52:53,560
Speaker 6: Really he's a great guy. You know, He's showed me

1296
00:52:53,560 --> 00:52:54,240
Speaker 6: a lot of support.

1297
00:52:54,880 --> 00:52:57,719
Speaker 3: He's a great guy and we definitely me al him

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Speaker 3: and Luisa Cools we would love to do business with him.

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Speaker 1: What's when you think about where you are in I

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Speaker 1: don't know, three years, what does that look like in

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Speaker 1: your mind? What have you accomplished?

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Speaker 3: Definitely unified world champion. I think at one sixty eight

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Speaker 3: and one seventy five. You know, when I was a

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Speaker 3: little kid, I thought it was going to be impossible

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Speaker 3: to even when winning one, Well I got three of

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Speaker 3: them now and now that I know I could accomplish greatness.

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Speaker 6: I'm just reaching for the stars.

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Speaker 1: Now, do you think you can get to that number

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Speaker 1: one spot? I mean we got in a way, We've

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Speaker 1: got Usik, We've got Crawford kind of in that stage.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's my that's my dream. That's what I envisioned

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Speaker 3: in my head and that's exactly what a manifest into

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Speaker 3: my life.

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Speaker 1: Wow, I can't wait.

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Speaker 2: I feel in the area the energy. He's ready, he's

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Speaker 2: dialed and he's focused. David benavidez el Monstro the monster

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Speaker 2: is back.

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Speaker 1: Uh.

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Speaker 2: Closing comment though, because Mike Tyson gave you that nickname

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Speaker 2: and Mike Tyson's going to box Jake Paul, do you

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Speaker 2: want your friend Mike to do that? I know you

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Speaker 2: wanted to cash the check.

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Speaker 1: We all do. Yeah, check probably a bad idea or

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Speaker 1: what I like?

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Speaker 6: Tyson's Mike Tyson.

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Speaker 3: You know, if Mike Tyson asking, if you're telling Mike

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Speaker 3: Tyson Mike is going to be a bad idea, you

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Speaker 3: fight face Jake Paul, probably slap you. Yeah, But like

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Speaker 3: at the end of the day, we just want everything

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Speaker 3: to you know, go right, you know, so go fight.

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Speaker 3: Mike Tyson still got to fire on him. But Jake

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Speaker 3: Paul is a tough opponent for him too, so I'm

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Speaker 3: sure it's gonna be a good fight, big audience on Netflix.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, we'll see David Benavitaz, thank you, best of

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Speaker 2: It's always a pleasure to chat with you. Maybe the

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Speaker 2: best one sixty eight or in the world. And there

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Speaker 2: wanted to get back into how we started this show.

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Speaker 2: with June twenty nine, will still happen to con McGregor,

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Speaker 2: We talked about the replacements. Hmm, looks there anything lingering

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Speaker 2: you want to hit on this? I mean, we love

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Speaker 2: the replacement fights.

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Speaker 1: First of all, that box of let's get back to

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Speaker 1: UFC if we can. Let me just ask you, right,

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Speaker 1: because it's some things I've been thinking about. Hey, can

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Speaker 1: we switch the back? I guess we can leave it.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if it really matters. Whatever, there we go.

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Speaker 1: I do love stack. I'm just saying, is UFC three

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Speaker 1: or three now a better card? Yes?

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Speaker 2: Now, hold on, that's an honestly, what.

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Speaker 1: You have to factor in. What you have to factor in,

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Speaker 1: excuse me, is you're getting I think on paper, a

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Speaker 1: better fight card. But with the short notice, are you

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Speaker 1: still getting a better fight card?

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Speaker 2: I mean that's the question. How will this affect Alex

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Speaker 2: Padeda And how delicate is this walk he's doing right

1389
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Speaker 2: now of going in there in the second division and

1390
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Speaker 2: just knocking out killer after killer. I mean, it's been

1391
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Speaker 2: unprecedented just in his own arc, the way he's wiggled.

1392
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Speaker 2: Now we're gonna ask a lot of him, remind you.

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Speaker 2: I mean, he has so little of under ten UFC

1394
00:57:00,680 --> 00:57:02,719
Speaker 2: fights still, but the last you know, five or six

1395
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Speaker 2: have been monster headlining. We're talking about MSG, we're talking

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Speaker 2: about UFC three hundred. Now we're talking about International Fight

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Speaker 2: Week here. I hope that doesn't affect him. But when

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Speaker 2: we talked about the advanced age, he does have a

1399
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Speaker 2: smaller window than most to get that done, and boy

1400
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Speaker 2: is he taking advantage of it. But is everybody healthy?

1401
00:57:20,400 --> 00:57:22,360
Speaker 2: Is everybody full on camp? I mean we only saw

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00:57:22,400 --> 00:57:25,760
Speaker 2: Potato Perreira two months ago, Luke, is YERI fully healthy

1403
00:57:25,800 --> 00:57:27,640
Speaker 2: and ready? I mean they're healthy enough to take the bag?

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00:57:27,760 --> 00:57:30,680
Speaker 2: Here will that effect? Will that if? Will any of

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00:57:30,720 --> 00:57:32,640
Speaker 2: that short notice give anyone an advantage? How do we

1406
00:57:32,720 --> 00:57:33,000
Speaker 2: look at that?

1407
00:57:33,440 --> 00:57:35,360
Speaker 1: Again? So here's my view of this as the main

1408
00:57:35,440 --> 00:57:38,040
Speaker 1: in the comain. Those are action fights no matter what,

1409
00:57:38,600 --> 00:57:41,280
Speaker 1: Diego Lopez and Brian Ortega. It wouldn't matter if they

1410
00:57:41,320 --> 00:57:44,600
Speaker 1: had five minutes, five weeks, five months, five years. Notice,

1411
00:57:44,840 --> 00:57:46,600
Speaker 1: it's gonna be two cats in a bag, right, So

1412
00:57:46,680 --> 00:57:49,360
Speaker 1: that's just the reality. The question is, can you double

1413
00:57:49,440 --> 00:57:50,959
Speaker 1: check to see if that's I'll look here in a minute,

1414
00:57:50,960 --> 00:57:52,080
Speaker 1: I don't know if it's five rounds or not. I'm

1415
00:57:52,080 --> 00:57:53,640
Speaker 1: gonna guess it's not. I'm gonna guess that's gonna be

1416
00:57:53,720 --> 00:57:57,000
Speaker 1: for three. Still, they're gonna have active scrambles. I don't

1417
00:57:57,000 --> 00:57:59,600
Speaker 1: see how that one goes the distance. Although one never knows, this.

1418
00:57:59,680 --> 00:58:01,640
Speaker 2: Fight make dieb go Lopez, right, The.

1419
00:58:01,720 --> 00:58:03,480
Speaker 1: Question you have to ask yourself is more in the

1420
00:58:03,600 --> 00:58:06,840
Speaker 1: main event, that's an action fight too, like Yuri doesn't

1421
00:58:06,880 --> 00:58:10,440
Speaker 1: fight any other way. Nevertheless, might there be more of

1422
00:58:10,480 --> 00:58:14,360
Speaker 1: an additional sprint off the top? Knowing if you're either guy,

1423
00:58:14,440 --> 00:58:16,800
Speaker 1: you probably don't want that fight going to the fourth

1424
00:58:16,840 --> 00:58:18,480
Speaker 1: and fifth round if you can at all avoid it,

1425
00:58:18,920 --> 00:58:20,760
Speaker 1: given how little time is you got to get your

1426
00:58:20,760 --> 00:58:22,640
Speaker 1: cardial or it needs to be, And to what extent

1427
00:58:22,680 --> 00:58:25,400
Speaker 1: does that change the fight? So my belief is, again,

1428
00:58:26,000 --> 00:58:29,160
Speaker 1: the later a fight is put together, the more in

1429
00:58:29,480 --> 00:58:33,200
Speaker 1: general you are taking away from it. At the same time,

1430
00:58:33,840 --> 00:58:38,520
Speaker 1: these two individual matchups are already action fights, irrespective of

1431
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Speaker 1: what booking context in which you make them. I wonder

1432
00:58:42,280 --> 00:58:45,840
Speaker 1: if it just dials up the intensity even more given

1433
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Speaker 1: what they're up against.

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Speaker 2: You're right, it's going to be spectacular, and if it

1435
00:58:49,200 --> 00:58:51,280
Speaker 2: does improve the card, which overall topped a bottom, it

1436
00:58:51,400 --> 00:58:53,440
Speaker 2: kind of really does, so Luke, before we get back

1437
00:58:53,480 --> 00:58:55,520
Speaker 2: into Robert Whitaker's new opponent, is.

1438
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Speaker 1: Something about Carlos Olberg fight too.

1439
00:58:58,880 --> 00:58:59,840
Speaker 2: Oh oh yeah, so add that?

1440
00:59:00,360 --> 00:59:02,960
Speaker 1: So yes, Anthony Smith, I gotta say I like this

1441
00:59:03,040 --> 00:59:05,640
Speaker 1: fight more than the Jamal Hill fight because we.

1442
00:59:05,720 --> 00:59:09,800
Speaker 2: Went from Rowntree Hill, Yes, to Hill, Oldberg.

1443
00:59:09,360 --> 00:59:11,440
Speaker 1: And now Olberg Smith. And the reason why I like

1444
00:59:11,520 --> 00:59:14,000
Speaker 1: it is, first of all, Smith just got the guillotine

1445
00:59:14,040 --> 00:59:17,720
Speaker 1: win over Vitor Petrino, who fought not not intelligently and

1446
00:59:17,840 --> 00:59:19,680
Speaker 1: paid for it by getting choked out in the first round.

1447
00:59:20,000 --> 00:59:22,080
Speaker 1: It shows you, if you give him something, Anthony Smith

1448
00:59:22,160 --> 00:59:24,760
Speaker 1: still has a little bit, you know, trickery left in

1449
00:59:24,800 --> 00:59:27,360
Speaker 1: that in the in the in his game, Alberg, I

1450
00:59:27,400 --> 00:59:29,840
Speaker 1: don't know, has like the best jiu jitsu, but you know,

1451
00:59:29,920 --> 00:59:31,640
Speaker 1: if again, if he keeps it standing, it's a different

1452
00:59:31,640 --> 00:59:33,640
Speaker 1: ball game. I'm simply saying. The reason I like it

1453
00:59:33,720 --> 00:59:35,160
Speaker 1: is it's a different fight than the Hill fight. It's

1454
00:59:35,200 --> 00:59:38,000
Speaker 1: going to test different parts about his game, and if

1455
00:59:38,040 --> 00:59:40,400
Speaker 1: he wins, he might get a title shot from it,

1456
00:59:40,480 --> 00:59:43,240
Speaker 1: but it's certainly no guarantee. It's a little bit more

1457
00:59:43,360 --> 00:59:47,520
Speaker 1: of a iterative step than a huge leap that the

1458
00:59:47,640 --> 00:59:49,880
Speaker 1: Jamal Hill fight would have been by virtue of the

1459
00:59:49,960 --> 00:59:52,560
Speaker 1: ranking position that they came from. I actually like this one.

1460
00:59:52,600 --> 00:59:58,160
Speaker 1: It's a little bit more of a modest incremental step up. Yeah,

1461
00:59:58,240 --> 00:59:59,360
Speaker 1: that you want to say, and it's and it's a

1462
00:59:59,400 --> 01:00:02,120
Speaker 1: particular stuff up of his fight iq in keeping this

1463
01:00:02,200 --> 01:00:04,600
Speaker 1: fight probably at range, and what he can do with it.

1464
01:00:04,680 --> 01:00:06,440
Speaker 1: I like this a lot better than no.

1465
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Speaker 2: Disagree with that. Olberg and Diego Lopez, who has a

1466
01:00:10,640 --> 01:00:14,080
Speaker 2: bigger opportunity to like fight weeks.

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Speaker 1: Diego Lopez, you go down on their storey. Ryan or

1468
01:00:16,280 --> 01:00:18,720
Speaker 1: Taga is currently ranked number three in the division. Diego

1469
01:00:18,760 --> 01:00:23,360
Speaker 1: Lopez is ranked fourteen. You just rarely ever see somebody

1470
01:00:23,520 --> 01:00:25,600
Speaker 1: ranked number three coming off of a big win over

1471
01:00:25,680 --> 01:00:27,960
Speaker 1: Jaio Rodriguez in this particular case. But how many times

1472
01:00:28,000 --> 01:00:30,000
Speaker 1: you see someone at number three giving a shot tomber

1473
01:00:30,000 --> 01:00:32,080
Speaker 1: someone at number fourteen? It never hap or not never

1474
01:00:32,400 --> 01:00:35,840
Speaker 1: rarely happens. You're getting that here, So Diego Lopez can

1475
01:00:35,960 --> 01:00:39,720
Speaker 1: go warp speed to the top of the division. However,

1476
01:00:40,240 --> 01:00:41,960
Speaker 1: let's think about this for a second. We don't know

1477
01:00:42,160 --> 01:00:44,600
Speaker 1: if Maximilia are fighting next, but they probably are, we

1478
01:00:44,640 --> 01:00:47,320
Speaker 1: don't know when. And then Vulk is kind of hanging

1479
01:00:47,400 --> 01:00:50,160
Speaker 1: out there. Does the winner of this fight get vulc

1480
01:00:50,560 --> 01:00:52,360
Speaker 1: Does Vulk take the winner of this fight? Does he

1481
01:00:52,400 --> 01:00:55,040
Speaker 1: wait until he gets the winner of And by the way,

1482
01:00:55,240 --> 01:00:58,240
Speaker 1: if Holloway wins, are they gonna do Holloway Vulcan. So

1483
01:00:58,280 --> 01:01:01,480
Speaker 1: if you're Diego Lopez. There's a little bit of a

1484
01:01:01,760 --> 01:01:04,200
Speaker 1: blockade at the top of this division. If he wins,

1485
01:01:04,560 --> 01:01:06,360
Speaker 1: Brian will take it too where I don't know if

1486
01:01:06,360 --> 01:01:08,960
Speaker 1: they get a title shot right from it, but man,

1487
01:01:09,040 --> 01:01:10,440
Speaker 1: you're going to be in a great position.

1488
01:01:10,520 --> 01:01:13,000
Speaker 2: It is wild when UFC makes these late substitutions and

1489
01:01:13,080 --> 01:01:15,960
Speaker 2: look that this is their their reputation. Now they're able

1490
01:01:16,000 --> 01:01:17,200
Speaker 2: to do it. They're on the top of the hill

1491
01:01:17,200 --> 01:01:18,880
Speaker 2: and they are able to put a big band aid

1492
01:01:18,920 --> 01:01:20,720
Speaker 2: on and keep the show on the road. It might

1493
01:01:20,760 --> 01:01:24,480
Speaker 2: have improved the card overall. You give them that credit,

1494
01:01:24,640 --> 01:01:27,840
Speaker 2: no question about it. But Luke, I actually thought it

1495
01:01:27,840 --> 01:01:30,240
Speaker 2: would have been O'Malley versus Morob and maybe that was

1496
01:01:30,240 --> 01:01:32,040
Speaker 2: talked about. I don't know, but when we were looking

1497
01:01:32,080 --> 01:01:35,000
Speaker 2: at like who's possibly available in the timelines, if that

1498
01:01:35,080 --> 01:01:38,160
Speaker 2: one would have substituted in, would that have made this bigger? Maybe?

1499
01:01:38,320 --> 01:01:41,680
Speaker 2: But I kind of really love this Prohtska Periro rematch.

1500
01:01:41,720 --> 01:01:43,000
Speaker 2: The more I really look at it, like you're talking

1501
01:01:43,000 --> 01:01:45,280
Speaker 2: about like the guaranteed fireworks, I love it. So I'm

1502
01:01:45,280 --> 01:01:47,840
Speaker 2: all in on where they landed and how they fixed it.

1503
01:01:47,920 --> 01:01:51,240
Speaker 1: At least for a two week replacement. You'll just never

1504
01:01:51,320 --> 01:01:54,440
Speaker 1: see anything better at MMA. You can be mad at

1505
01:01:54,440 --> 01:01:57,479
Speaker 1: how we got here, but now that we're here, given

1506
01:01:57,560 --> 01:02:00,480
Speaker 1: what we were promised and now what you got, it

1507
01:02:00,640 --> 01:02:03,160
Speaker 1: just no one else in combat sports could do this.

1508
01:02:03,440 --> 01:02:06,240
Speaker 2: You're like, honey, I know the labor pains were horrific,

1509
01:02:06,320 --> 01:02:07,840
Speaker 2: but the baby's here. Can we just focus on that?

1510
01:02:07,920 --> 01:02:10,000
Speaker 1: That's really good? And then I'm not saying that. I'm

1511
01:02:10,040 --> 01:02:12,320
Speaker 1: just saying, Look, the UFC has constructed a model where

1512
01:02:12,320 --> 01:02:14,040
Speaker 1: they can develop this next man up kind of thing.

1513
01:02:14,080 --> 01:02:16,200
Speaker 1: And if you deprive people of the salaries that they

1514
01:02:16,280 --> 01:02:18,440
Speaker 1: normally earn, but then give them big bags for opportunities,

1515
01:02:18,560 --> 01:02:19,919
Speaker 1: this is how the whole thing works, all.

1516
01:02:19,880 --> 01:02:22,920
Speaker 2: Right, close with them. McGregor conversation for me, Does he

1517
01:02:23,000 --> 01:02:23,640
Speaker 2: fight in the fall?

1518
01:02:27,880 --> 01:02:31,800
Speaker 1: I'll say yes. I'll say yes, I think he does

1519
01:02:31,920 --> 01:02:35,480
Speaker 1: one more time. Beyond that, it's really hard to say.

1520
01:02:35,560 --> 01:02:36,960
Speaker 1: And I want to be clear about something too. We

1521
01:02:37,160 --> 01:02:39,480
Speaker 1: don't know it's assume it's an injury, like as we've

1522
01:02:39,480 --> 01:02:42,400
Speaker 1: been told, we don't know what injury it is. If

1523
01:02:42,440 --> 01:02:45,440
Speaker 1: it's a cut, is it related to the leg? Is

1524
01:02:45,480 --> 01:02:48,840
Speaker 1: it related to something of an imbalance that the leg created?

1525
01:02:50,320 --> 01:02:52,080
Speaker 2: You seem so chill with the fact that we don't know,

1526
01:02:52,400 --> 01:02:54,200
Speaker 2: like we shouldn't know. Like it's not our business, Like

1527
01:02:54,280 --> 01:02:54,600
Speaker 2: it's what.

1528
01:02:55,080 --> 01:02:57,160
Speaker 1: Give me, give me some weird, give me the art.

1529
01:02:57,560 --> 01:03:01,480
Speaker 1: My issue is this, they dragged it out unnecessarily, so

1530
01:03:01,720 --> 01:03:05,000
Speaker 1: keeping part of its secret, I'm less bothered by. I'm

1531
01:03:05,080 --> 01:03:07,920
Speaker 1: more bothered by the duration of time at which they

1532
01:03:08,360 --> 01:03:11,080
Speaker 1: whittled their things. Yeah, that's that's what. And again I

1533
01:03:11,160 --> 01:03:13,560
Speaker 1: was trying to figure out what orthopedic injury takes this long, dude.

1534
01:03:13,840 --> 01:03:16,200
Speaker 1: The initial assessment that they probably couldn't do it was

1535
01:03:16,240 --> 01:03:19,080
Speaker 1: fucking correct. This is what I mean. They know fast.

1536
01:03:19,200 --> 01:03:22,000
Speaker 1: It doesn't take a long time to figure this shit out.

1537
01:03:22,120 --> 01:03:23,760
Speaker 1: That's the part that kind of gets you. But keeping

1538
01:03:23,800 --> 01:03:26,520
Speaker 1: their cards close to the vest in a shorter window,

1539
01:03:27,440 --> 01:03:28,680
Speaker 1: I'm less bothered by.

1540
01:03:28,680 --> 01:03:30,520
Speaker 2: All right, And they did save of course, when we're

1541
01:03:30,560 --> 01:03:33,600
Speaker 2: talking about the UFC Saudi Arabia debut card, which is

1542
01:03:33,680 --> 01:03:37,240
Speaker 2: next weekend, Robert Whitaker not going to be faced hobs

1543
01:03:37,280 --> 01:03:40,520
Speaker 2: out Chimaya, but is Ikram Alice Scareff who takes the

1544
01:03:41,080 --> 01:03:43,680
Speaker 2: opportunistic opportunity And really we're.

1545
01:03:43,520 --> 01:03:45,360
Speaker 1: Talking about opportunistic opportunity that.

1546
01:03:45,400 --> 01:03:47,000
Speaker 2: You love that when you can combine that shit in

1547
01:03:47,000 --> 01:03:48,960
Speaker 2: the same sentence. What I'm saying here is we talked

1548
01:03:48,960 --> 01:03:50,960
Speaker 2: about what Diego Lopez can do in doubling down in

1549
01:03:51,000 --> 01:03:54,160
Speaker 2: the star power. This is a step we thought DDP

1550
01:03:54,320 --> 01:03:56,400
Speaker 2: stepping up to Robert Whitaker two fights ago, was like,

1551
01:03:56,560 --> 01:03:58,240
Speaker 2: is this going to be a bridge too far? How

1552
01:03:58,360 --> 01:04:01,520
Speaker 2: ready is Ali scaref for this level of smoke? Has

1553
01:04:01,560 --> 01:04:04,120
Speaker 2: only lost to Hamzat Tramiev in his career. The finishing

1554
01:04:04,200 --> 01:04:07,640
Speaker 2: streak is incredible of knockouts, He's a freight train coming Luke.

1555
01:04:07,840 --> 01:04:10,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, He's never fought anybody like this. I mean, there's

1556
01:04:10,680 --> 01:04:13,320
Speaker 1: just no denying. So the good news for alis Karov

1557
01:04:13,720 --> 01:04:15,480
Speaker 1: is he was supposed to be fighting this weekend. I

1558
01:04:15,560 --> 01:04:18,440
Speaker 1: believe they're just pushing him back a week So in

1559
01:04:18,560 --> 01:04:20,680
Speaker 1: that sense he has a full camp. It's short notice,

1560
01:04:20,720 --> 01:04:22,560
Speaker 1: but a full camp short notice, so that's a great thing.

1561
01:04:23,000 --> 01:04:25,800
Speaker 1: So both guys are coming in with a fair amount

1562
01:04:25,800 --> 01:04:32,360
Speaker 1: of you know, good prep, but unknowns. Huge, huge moment

1563
01:04:32,480 --> 01:04:34,920
Speaker 1: first for Whittaker because if he wants to get back

1564
01:04:34,960 --> 01:04:36,560
Speaker 1: to the title, and he's been pretty explicit that's what

1565
01:04:36,600 --> 01:04:39,920
Speaker 1: he wants. No room for fucking air, and he is

1566
01:04:39,960 --> 01:04:42,160
Speaker 1: taking on a very very tough assignment, a very different

1567
01:04:42,200 --> 01:04:44,880
Speaker 1: one than hamsad Hamsat gets shot out of a cannon

1568
01:04:45,600 --> 01:04:48,400
Speaker 1: and you know, kind of fades down the stretch. Aliskarov

1569
01:04:48,400 --> 01:04:52,520
Speaker 1: does not, but is I would argue, I'm gonna says

1570
01:04:52,520 --> 01:04:54,400
Speaker 1: hard to say. If he's more well rounded. His game

1571
01:04:54,480 --> 01:04:56,800
Speaker 1: is a little bit more balanced, but different. So he's

1572
01:04:56,840 --> 01:04:59,880
Speaker 1: got more of a traditional sambo style where he's got trips, throws,

1573
01:05:00,160 --> 01:05:03,240
Speaker 1: foot sweeps, that kind of a thing. We saw a

1574
01:05:03,360 --> 01:05:05,560
Speaker 1: big bruiser in DDP. Take him down.

1575
01:05:06,720 --> 01:05:08,439
Speaker 2: There were young children. I was just waving.

1576
01:05:08,440 --> 01:05:09,720
Speaker 1: Did you wink at a little child?

1577
01:05:09,840 --> 01:05:11,480
Speaker 2: What am I gonna do? They were waving. I was like, hey,

1578
01:05:11,560 --> 01:05:13,760
Speaker 2: I didn't want to like distract you and raise my hand.

1579
01:05:14,240 --> 01:05:16,520
Speaker 1: What any real man does, I'm not gonna apply to.

1580
01:05:18,240 --> 01:05:20,240
Speaker 2: Day after that or anything. That's what you're concerned.

1581
01:05:20,520 --> 01:05:21,840
Speaker 1: So the point I'm trying to make is this be

1582
01:05:21,920 --> 01:05:24,880
Speaker 1: see if you're Robert Whittaker, no room for error. We

1583
01:05:24,960 --> 01:05:28,160
Speaker 1: saw the big physical takedown passing style of DDP give

1584
01:05:28,240 --> 01:05:31,200
Speaker 1: him real problems. Alice Carov is a real threat in

1585
01:05:31,280 --> 01:05:33,600
Speaker 1: that sense. He's got a fantastic Kimora. He goes to

1586
01:05:33,680 --> 01:05:36,200
Speaker 1: mount the whole bit. So that's what I would say

1587
01:05:36,240 --> 01:05:38,080
Speaker 1: on his end on the alis karalv side. I think

1588
01:05:38,120 --> 01:05:40,440
Speaker 1: he's got he's playing with house money. He is getting

1589
01:05:40,520 --> 01:05:42,640
Speaker 1: warped sped if dude, ABC.

1590
01:05:42,440 --> 01:05:44,959
Speaker 2: By the way, ABC primetime, right in the afternoon.

1591
01:05:44,680 --> 01:05:47,120
Speaker 1: That's right, early prime time, that's right. And if you're Aliecaroff,

1592
01:05:47,120 --> 01:05:50,120
Speaker 1: if you lose against Whittaker, okay, fine, you can go

1593
01:05:50,240 --> 01:05:52,200
Speaker 1: back to fighting sort of more middle of the road

1594
01:05:52,240 --> 01:05:54,640
Speaker 1: guys and in the middleweight, and he can beat those

1595
01:05:54,680 --> 01:05:57,080
Speaker 1: guys too. But if you beat Whittaker, you're gonna go

1596
01:05:57,160 --> 01:05:59,640
Speaker 1: warp speed to the front of that division, probably get

1597
01:05:59,640 --> 01:06:03,960
Speaker 1: a title shot relatively soon thereafter. However, that's a very

1598
01:06:04,200 --> 01:06:06,320
Speaker 1: very difficult guy to solve.

1599
01:06:06,440 --> 01:06:08,760
Speaker 2: That's why it gets exciting when the UFC is able

1600
01:06:08,800 --> 01:06:10,680
Speaker 2: to save face. And they did it, they made the lemonade.

1601
01:06:11,000 --> 01:06:13,920
Speaker 2: Then people get to cut the line. Then chaos en susode.

1602
01:06:13,960 --> 01:06:15,840
Speaker 2: That is fun. That is fun to see that fall.

1603
01:06:15,840 --> 01:06:19,240
Speaker 1: And you can reorder the whole table of things like

1604
01:06:19,360 --> 01:06:21,600
Speaker 1: that in a single instant. For Alice Carava would have

1605
01:06:21,640 --> 01:06:23,280
Speaker 1: taken them probably a little bit longer middleweight, it's a

1606
01:06:23,280 --> 01:06:25,400
Speaker 1: little bit easier to push through, but it would have

1607
01:06:25,400 --> 01:06:26,800
Speaker 1: taken him a lot longer. Now, all of a sudden

1608
01:06:26,800 --> 01:06:28,920
Speaker 1: You're in a Robert Whittaker main event for the UFC's

1609
01:06:28,960 --> 01:06:31,720
Speaker 1: debut in a new coveted market in Saudi Arabia. As

1610
01:06:31,760 --> 01:06:35,800
Speaker 1: you mentioned primetime on ABC, this is an enormous opportunity.

1611
01:06:36,320 --> 01:06:38,200
Speaker 1: It's it's a much more difficult one, but a much

1612
01:06:38,240 --> 01:06:40,000
Speaker 1: more enriching one. If you're Alice Karev, it's to me

1613
01:06:40,120 --> 01:06:41,760
Speaker 1: it's the Whitaker side that I'm really kind of paying

1614
01:06:41,760 --> 01:06:45,840
Speaker 1: attention to. H He is also taking on enormous risk

1615
01:06:45,920 --> 01:06:49,440
Speaker 1: here for what could be a disaster if he doesn't win,

1616
01:06:49,640 --> 01:06:50,400
Speaker 1: it could be a disaster.

1617
01:06:50,400 --> 01:06:52,160
Speaker 2: It can be exciting to see the fallout of that.

1618
01:06:52,320 --> 01:06:54,240
Speaker 2: So at the very least, can't wait to see what

1619
01:06:54,440 --> 01:06:57,600
Speaker 2: UFC has done to keep that going and keep that alive. Luke,

1620
01:06:57,640 --> 01:07:01,160
Speaker 2: This Saturday, we have a UFC fight card from the Apex.

1621
01:07:01,600 --> 01:07:03,680
Speaker 2: I didn't know that if anyone was super excited about this,

1622
01:07:03,720 --> 01:07:05,520
Speaker 2: but then Floyd Mayweather was sweet and that you know,

1623
01:07:05,600 --> 01:07:07,480
Speaker 2: you should probably tune into this and that is live

1624
01:07:07,600 --> 01:07:09,439
Speaker 2: right now. I mean that was a little bit weird.

1625
01:07:10,720 --> 01:07:12,880
Speaker 2: It is what it is, Luke, But is what's the

1626
01:07:12,920 --> 01:07:14,640
Speaker 2: biggest gold we should look for it?

1627
01:07:14,760 --> 01:07:18,920
Speaker 1: Well, So we had a Joshua Van versus Ulan. Oh God,

1628
01:07:18,960 --> 01:07:22,280
Speaker 1: what's his last name? I can never pronounce it. Uhlan

1629
01:07:22,320 --> 01:07:25,080
Speaker 1: bakof the Tech gear Uhlanbacall fight is now off. So

1630
01:07:25,280 --> 01:07:27,240
Speaker 1: josh Van one of these great up and comers. He

1631
01:07:27,240 --> 01:07:30,000
Speaker 1: was supposed to take on to gear Ulan Beckoff. It

1632
01:07:30,080 --> 01:07:32,440
Speaker 1: fell out because he missed weight Beckoff by I think

1633
01:07:32,480 --> 01:07:35,240
Speaker 1: by like four pounds something fucking absurd. He's nearly at

1634
01:07:35,280 --> 01:07:37,800
Speaker 1: the next weight class. It's a flyweight fight. So we

1635
01:07:37,960 --> 01:07:41,080
Speaker 1: lost that one. That was a big gem on this card, unfortunately,

1636
01:07:41,120 --> 01:07:44,200
Speaker 1: and the rest of it is not that great. Adam

1637
01:07:44,200 --> 01:07:46,680
Speaker 1: Fuggett is on this one or Fugit Howry pronounced his name.

1638
01:07:48,840 --> 01:07:51,840
Speaker 2: The delicacy and care that you show to the casserists

1639
01:07:51,960 --> 01:07:53,520
Speaker 2: of the world, then you're like, ah, fuck it, it's

1640
01:07:53,560 --> 01:07:54,400
Speaker 2: fugate whatever.

1641
01:07:54,240 --> 01:07:56,280
Speaker 1: You want, Okay, I'm just doing some jokes. The main

1642
01:07:56,360 --> 01:07:59,120
Speaker 1: event is still great. Alex Petas taken on Tetsuro Tyra

1643
01:07:59,360 --> 01:08:02,040
Speaker 1: is a phenomenal contest. Tyra is This one, to me

1644
01:08:02,600 --> 01:08:05,040
Speaker 1: is really going to come down to who's initiating the

1645
01:08:05,080 --> 01:08:08,360
Speaker 1: grappling sequences and then winning the scrambles is going to

1646
01:08:08,400 --> 01:08:10,400
Speaker 1: be a big part of it. Tyra very good about

1647
01:08:10,440 --> 01:08:12,840
Speaker 1: Mount very good about back kind of fights, long distance,

1648
01:08:13,240 --> 01:08:16,760
Speaker 1: not an in the pocket kind of boxer typically, and

1649
01:08:16,880 --> 01:08:21,200
Speaker 1: Pets has a restler wrestling background, very very good scrambles.

1650
01:08:21,200 --> 01:08:23,680
Speaker 1: But you can recall against the Pantoja, I believe he

1651
01:08:23,840 --> 01:08:25,559
Speaker 1: was very good about getting behind him just to create

1652
01:08:25,640 --> 01:08:27,280
Speaker 1: back exposure and then he was able to get it.

1653
01:08:27,360 --> 01:08:29,280
Speaker 1: I wonder if Tyra can do that. Tyra one of

1654
01:08:29,320 --> 01:08:33,839
Speaker 1: the very top prospects. Interesting moment in Japanese MMA. Wherefore,

1655
01:08:34,120 --> 01:08:36,160
Speaker 1: you guys may not appreciate this, but back in the

1656
01:08:36,560 --> 01:08:41,040
Speaker 1: late two thousands, Japan and Brazil were both like equal powerhouses,

1657
01:08:41,080 --> 01:08:42,719
Speaker 1: not in terms of filling out all the weight classes.

1658
01:08:42,760 --> 01:08:45,360
Speaker 1: Obviously Brazil could fill out heavyweight a little bit more,

1659
01:08:45,479 --> 01:08:48,920
Speaker 1: but Japan was a factory of MMA fighters. They were

1660
01:08:48,960 --> 01:08:51,920
Speaker 1: relevant just by virtue of how many fighters were coming

1661
01:08:52,000 --> 01:08:54,240
Speaker 1: out of the scene. And then after what was called

1662
01:08:54,280 --> 01:08:57,519
Speaker 1: the Kakutoki boom, which was this big boom and pride

1663
01:08:57,560 --> 01:08:59,120
Speaker 1: in k one and pro wrestling.

1664
01:08:58,840 --> 01:09:00,280
Speaker 2: Now on adult film name that one time.

1665
01:09:02,720 --> 01:09:06,040
Speaker 1: No, we're all right, Well, if I had if I

1666
01:09:06,120 --> 01:09:08,000
Speaker 1: had HIV and a squirt gun, I will shoot you

1667
01:09:08,080 --> 01:09:09,640
Speaker 1: in the face. That is too far, all right, But

1668
01:09:09,720 --> 01:09:12,439
Speaker 1: the point I wanted to make was they faded after

1669
01:09:12,520 --> 01:09:15,200
Speaker 1: the boom, the balloon or the bubble popped. The scene

1670
01:09:15,240 --> 01:09:17,160
Speaker 1: really contracted. I know there was dreamed there was sing

1671
01:09:17,200 --> 01:09:20,080
Speaker 1: Goku that it majorly contracted. You're now starting to see

1672
01:09:20,840 --> 01:09:24,120
Speaker 1: a change in things. The ray Suruyas, the Tetsuro Tyras

1673
01:09:24,160 --> 01:09:26,320
Speaker 1: and many other ones coming out of Japan. Really kind

1674
01:09:26,320 --> 01:09:28,960
Speaker 1: of an interesting moment. And BC, this kid fifteen to

1675
01:09:29,120 --> 01:09:32,040
Speaker 1: zero is at the front of the pack. Tough fight

1676
01:09:32,160 --> 01:09:33,560
Speaker 1: for him. I know folks are like, oh, it's not

1677
01:09:33,600 --> 01:09:34,920
Speaker 1: a great man event. You're right, it's not a great

1678
01:09:34,920 --> 01:09:37,639
Speaker 1: main event. It's a great fight though, and a great

1679
01:09:37,720 --> 01:09:40,680
Speaker 1: test of somebody in Tyra who I think has a

1680
01:09:40,960 --> 01:09:44,280
Speaker 1: very very promising future, not even if he loses, but

1681
01:09:44,840 --> 01:09:45,720
Speaker 1: definitely if you win.

1682
01:09:45,840 --> 01:09:48,280
Speaker 2: I appreciate how you educated me and the audience about

1683
01:09:48,880 --> 01:09:50,240
Speaker 2: There are a few things to find on there, not

1684
01:09:50,280 --> 01:09:51,799
Speaker 2: a lot of Wikipedia about.

1685
01:09:51,600 --> 01:09:54,040
Speaker 1: The thing about these APEX cars that you have to

1686
01:09:54,120 --> 01:09:57,360
Speaker 1: admit is the UFC has so many resources that even

1687
01:09:57,400 --> 01:10:00,160
Speaker 1: of their bottom of the barrel product, there's always it's

1688
01:10:00,160 --> 01:10:02,719
Speaker 1: going to be a couple of gems. Here's the problem

1689
01:10:02,800 --> 01:10:05,360
Speaker 1: for us. We are now at a place where the

1690
01:10:05,439 --> 01:10:08,000
Speaker 1: way content works that we have to make for audiences,

1691
01:10:08,600 --> 01:10:11,040
Speaker 1: you have to factor in how much the audience cares

1692
01:10:11,600 --> 01:10:15,639
Speaker 1: hardcres definitely care about this. The wider watching MMA public

1693
01:10:15,880 --> 01:10:19,120
Speaker 1: does not care about APEX shows. They don't produce traffic.

1694
01:10:19,240 --> 01:10:22,120
Speaker 1: They don't there's no response. It's a dead zone. And

1695
01:10:22,200 --> 01:10:24,880
Speaker 1: so it ends up influencing how we cover them, unfortunately,

1696
01:10:24,920 --> 01:10:28,000
Speaker 1: because there are other things that could pay that could

1697
01:10:28,040 --> 01:10:30,400
Speaker 1: be great. Now that being said, there's also a lot

1698
01:10:30,439 --> 01:10:32,080
Speaker 1: of fights on this card that I would not consider

1699
01:10:32,240 --> 01:10:35,000
Speaker 1: UFC level worthy. So there's a lot of filler in

1700
01:10:35,080 --> 01:10:37,280
Speaker 1: there too, and that's part of the story. But are

1701
01:10:37,320 --> 01:10:40,519
Speaker 1: there gems on these APEX cards? Yes, yes there are.

1702
01:10:40,760 --> 01:10:42,640
Speaker 1: Appreciate them for what they are, even if they're on

1703
01:10:43,040 --> 01:10:44,160
Speaker 1: not the biggest card per se.

1704
01:10:44,320 --> 01:10:47,680
Speaker 2: I appreciate your appreciation level. Also, Luke, we saw PFL

1705
01:10:47,960 --> 01:10:51,040
Speaker 2: was back Thursday night last night in Connecticut. By the way,

1706
01:10:51,920 --> 01:10:55,519
Speaker 2: with a PFL four card. I was going to ask

1707
01:10:55,560 --> 01:10:58,240
Speaker 2: you your legitimate biggest takeaway from the results that happened.

1708
01:10:58,240 --> 01:10:59,840
Speaker 2: By the way, Mahta got knocked out. I don't love this.

1709
01:11:00,080 --> 01:11:03,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, here's my takeaway. Nobody watches the PFL. There's my tam, Well,

1710
01:11:03,479 --> 01:11:03,880
Speaker 1: they will.

1711
01:11:03,840 --> 01:11:06,320
Speaker 2: Now after we show this clip because this is Look,

1712
01:11:06,400 --> 01:11:09,439
Speaker 2: we've we respond to so many wacky because MMA produces

1713
01:11:09,560 --> 01:11:12,040
Speaker 2: wacky clips that are just you know, anytime your family

1714
01:11:12,120 --> 01:11:14,000
Speaker 2: member walks in and they're in north south position, you

1715
01:11:14,080 --> 01:11:17,679
Speaker 2: have to explain yourself. MMA produces wacky clips. This highlight

1716
01:11:17,760 --> 01:11:19,680
Speaker 2: that came out of the PFL last night of this

1717
01:11:20,320 --> 01:11:23,639
Speaker 2: foul double knockdown is I think the most incredible video

1718
01:11:23,680 --> 01:11:25,720
Speaker 2: I've ever seen in that the history. Let's see it

1719
01:11:25,840 --> 01:11:35,280
Speaker 2: right now. That's so MK, that's so MK, that's so PFL.

1720
01:11:36,479 --> 01:11:38,160
Speaker 2: It was it used to be so belatore right to

1721
01:11:38,240 --> 01:11:41,400
Speaker 2: have a double stick kick moment. Yeah, and a main event.

1722
01:11:41,240 --> 01:11:45,720
Speaker 1: Bellotour Heavyweight main event was basically two guys instead of

1723
01:11:45,840 --> 01:11:47,400
Speaker 1: power slap, it was ball kick.

1724
01:11:47,479 --> 01:11:48,479
Speaker 2: Well this wasn't the main event.

1725
01:11:48,800 --> 01:11:50,600
Speaker 1: Okay, fair enough, I'm just saying that's but that's like

1726
01:11:50,800 --> 01:11:53,479
Speaker 1: that was the the what was his name, Eric Pringle,

1727
01:11:53,560 --> 01:11:56,120
Speaker 1: remember him? Yes, just getting lit up in the balls

1728
01:11:56,160 --> 01:11:57,240
Speaker 1: like it was no one's business.

1729
01:11:57,320 --> 01:11:59,160
Speaker 2: Well, that was Timothy Johnson who got hit in the

1730
01:11:59,720 --> 01:12:02,639
Speaker 2: john and Luke remember when he fought Fador in Moscow

1731
01:12:02,720 --> 01:12:05,839
Speaker 2: that time, and that was his opponent DANIELI ol Marcus.

1732
01:12:05,960 --> 01:12:07,479
Speaker 2: But in the main event, we you don't really want

1733
01:12:07,479 --> 01:12:09,519
Speaker 2: to talk about Lytton Vesselle getting a split decision over

1734
01:12:09,640 --> 01:12:10,720
Speaker 2: Valentine Meldelwski.

1735
01:12:10,760 --> 01:12:11,720
Speaker 1: Do you who gives a shit?

1736
01:12:11,760 --> 01:12:12,599
Speaker 2: Do you care about Dakota?

1737
01:12:13,360 --> 01:12:15,519
Speaker 1: Yes, she's interesting, dude. She loved like a dynamo up

1738
01:12:15,520 --> 01:12:17,160
Speaker 1: against the fence. Did you see her finishing I did,

1739
01:12:17,760 --> 01:12:19,160
Speaker 1: drilling her opponent to the body.

1740
01:12:19,320 --> 01:12:21,439
Speaker 2: It grills a big cheerleader on her and it's brought

1741
01:12:21,439 --> 01:12:22,479
Speaker 2: attention that she can fight.

1742
01:12:22,560 --> 01:12:25,200
Speaker 1: No, no, no, she's good again. It's the same with

1743
01:12:25,200 --> 01:12:28,720
Speaker 1: the Apex. Are there gems on the PFL roster? Absolutely?

1744
01:12:28,800 --> 01:12:30,920
Speaker 1: And decoda Dsheva? Have you pronounce her last name? She

1745
01:12:31,040 --> 01:12:33,320
Speaker 1: is certainly one of them. She did great work against

1746
01:12:33,360 --> 01:12:35,719
Speaker 1: the fence yesterday. I loved how she finished her opponent

1747
01:12:35,800 --> 01:12:38,320
Speaker 1: off at angles, when the when the finally with the

1748
01:12:38,439 --> 01:12:40,000
Speaker 1: she hit her to the body with a knee and

1749
01:12:40,080 --> 01:12:42,479
Speaker 1: then begins to work the hands. Oh dude, was so nice.

1750
01:12:42,600 --> 01:12:42,880
Speaker 1: Loved it.

1751
01:12:43,680 --> 01:12:45,840
Speaker 2: You're gonna get fired up for the PFL playoffs, Like

1752
01:12:46,160 --> 01:12:48,120
Speaker 2: remember last year, It's like whether.

1753
01:12:47,960 --> 01:12:50,880
Speaker 1: You're literally nobody is fired up about the.

1754
01:12:51,120 --> 01:12:52,400
Speaker 2: Here's what I have to say. And we've had our

1755
01:12:52,400 --> 01:12:54,479
Speaker 2: criticisms of where the pfl's at this year. After the

1756
01:12:54,520 --> 01:12:56,519
Speaker 2: Big Bowl, the announcement that they're coming on and they're

1757
01:12:56,520 --> 01:12:59,559
Speaker 2: competing and all of that. Normally there's like, Okay, maybe

1758
01:12:59,560 --> 01:13:01,200
Speaker 2: I'm not in on most of the divisions, but there's

1759
01:13:01,200 --> 01:13:03,400
Speaker 2: a storyline involving Kyla Harrison that's interesting, and there's a

1760
01:13:03,439 --> 01:13:05,280
Speaker 2: storyline evolving Brendon Locknane and.

1761
01:13:05,320 --> 01:13:05,720
Speaker 1: This and that.

1762
01:13:06,200 --> 01:13:07,760
Speaker 2: Is there any of those storylines yet?

1763
01:13:08,000 --> 01:13:10,519
Speaker 1: Dude, PFL does it look at me. I'm not even

1764
01:13:10,560 --> 01:13:13,000
Speaker 1: trying to be a dick. I'm being dead honest. PFL

1765
01:13:13,160 --> 01:13:16,040
Speaker 1: doesn't have a fan base and this tournament system is

1766
01:13:16,160 --> 01:13:17,360
Speaker 1: not going to create one.

1767
01:13:18,120 --> 01:13:20,400
Speaker 2: Like they've got to fuck they just reset and take

1768
01:13:20,520 --> 01:13:23,920
Speaker 2: people like Patchy Mix aj McKee and just push them

1769
01:13:23,960 --> 01:13:25,680
Speaker 2: to the forefront and just say we have two of

1770
01:13:25,680 --> 01:13:27,439
Speaker 2: the best pound for pound fighters on the planet right

1771
01:13:27,479 --> 01:13:29,280
Speaker 2: now and here they are, rather than putting them on

1772
01:13:29,360 --> 01:13:31,760
Speaker 2: Bellotur in Europe, you know what I mean, and on

1773
01:13:31,840 --> 01:13:32,599
Speaker 2: like random cards.

1774
01:13:32,920 --> 01:13:34,920
Speaker 1: There's so much that could be different. Remember, they want

1775
01:13:34,920 --> 01:13:37,439
Speaker 1: to have a Champions League model where PFL Mina fights,

1776
01:13:37,479 --> 01:13:40,479
Speaker 1: PFL Europe fights whatever. It doesn't make any sense. This

1777
01:13:40,600 --> 01:13:43,120
Speaker 1: tournament system is is a waste of everyone's time. You

1778
01:13:43,160 --> 01:13:45,760
Speaker 1: could do a little bit of tournament work per you know,

1779
01:13:45,840 --> 01:13:48,759
Speaker 1: season or per amount of time calendar year, but building

1780
01:13:48,800 --> 01:13:51,240
Speaker 1: a product around it while trying to build a Bellotor brand,

1781
01:13:51,240 --> 01:13:53,479
Speaker 1: while trying to build a PFO Europe brand. It makes

1782
01:13:53,680 --> 01:13:56,559
Speaker 1: zero fucking sense and they're gonna go out of business.

1783
01:13:56,600 --> 01:13:58,320
Speaker 2: But it's just my wink at one of the people outside.

1784
01:13:58,360 --> 01:14:00,240
Speaker 1: You get very uncomfortable that look you give me, because

1785
01:14:00,320 --> 01:14:03,479
Speaker 1: it's weird when I give you analysis and here's all

1786
01:14:03,520 --> 01:14:07,559
Speaker 1: I see from you, Like, what the fuck are you doing?

1787
01:14:07,960 --> 01:14:09,960
Speaker 2: I'm just connecting with the people. Like those people.

1788
01:14:10,040 --> 01:14:11,360
Speaker 1: Why don't you connect with the guy you do a

1789
01:14:11,400 --> 01:14:12,800
Speaker 1: show with Aske Wipe? How about that?

1790
01:14:13,080 --> 01:14:15,720
Speaker 2: Wow, let's connect on a heart level. Look, it's an

1791
01:14:15,760 --> 01:14:20,160
Speaker 2: interesting transition for topic number five because we connected on

1792
01:14:20,240 --> 01:14:25,080
Speaker 2: a very deep, cosmic, almost alien level last night when

1793
01:14:25,160 --> 01:14:28,439
Speaker 2: you paid off the ultimate bet, the ok bet MK

1794
01:14:28,600 --> 01:14:30,840
Speaker 2: bet from twenty twenty three, when we went ahead to

1795
01:14:30,880 --> 01:14:32,720
Speaker 2: head on picks for the whole year, and no one

1796
01:14:32,800 --> 01:14:35,760
Speaker 2: thought that a guy who represents hashtag team Vibes could

1797
01:14:35,840 --> 01:14:38,000
Speaker 2: somehow pull it out. But Luke, I've pulled it out

1798
01:14:38,040 --> 01:14:42,200
Speaker 2: in public before and I'll do it again. Luke Thomas,

1799
01:14:42,720 --> 01:14:46,439
Speaker 2: your task last night was to pay that off of

1800
01:14:46,479 --> 01:14:48,439
Speaker 2: going to a concert that you definitely didn't want to

1801
01:14:48,479 --> 01:14:49,760
Speaker 2: go to. If I would have lost, I would have

1802
01:14:49,840 --> 01:14:53,640
Speaker 2: had to viking row in the crowd to see the

1803
01:14:53,960 --> 01:14:56,200
Speaker 2: closer after Cannibal Corpse was there. But no, we didn't

1804
01:14:56,240 --> 01:14:58,439
Speaker 2: do that. We did Dead in Company. But I have

1805
01:14:58,560 --> 01:15:01,639
Speaker 2: to say, Luke, I didn't do you dirty one. I'd

1806
01:15:01,840 --> 01:15:03,639
Speaker 2: get upset that you left early, and we'll talk about

1807
01:15:03,640 --> 01:15:06,920
Speaker 2: that too. It was at the sphere, so we're talking

1808
01:15:06,960 --> 01:15:09,800
Speaker 2: about whether you care about the dead or the music,

1809
01:15:09,920 --> 01:15:11,439
Speaker 2: or there's people that were there that were not even

1810
01:15:11,479 --> 01:15:14,000
Speaker 2: involved in the music. They're just involved with the atmosphere,

1811
01:15:14,200 --> 01:15:17,559
Speaker 2: and whether you are deep talking to aliens on another

1812
01:15:17,640 --> 01:15:22,440
Speaker 2: level or they're sober on caffeine. It was an experience

1813
01:15:22,520 --> 01:15:25,880
Speaker 2: within the experience within the experience. I want to get

1814
01:15:25,920 --> 01:15:28,000
Speaker 2: first and foremost, since you agreed to it, since you

1815
01:15:28,160 --> 01:15:31,080
Speaker 2: walked in and shout out to Otel Berbert's the legendary

1816
01:15:31,160 --> 01:15:33,679
Speaker 2: basis of Dead and Company for his hospitality and welcome

1817
01:15:33,880 --> 01:15:36,000
Speaker 2: us in, and we got to spend some time with him.

1818
01:15:36,400 --> 01:15:39,000
Speaker 2: But Luke, you had to go where you don't go

1819
01:15:39,479 --> 01:15:43,000
Speaker 2: a lot of like smelly white people getting together, and.

1820
01:15:43,080 --> 01:15:46,280
Speaker 1: You unshowered, A lot of unshowered whites at the Sphere.

1821
01:15:46,760 --> 01:15:49,439
Speaker 2: O rough was it? How would you sum up your

1822
01:15:49,720 --> 01:15:51,519
Speaker 2: experience for as long as it lasted.

1823
01:15:51,640 --> 01:15:55,599
Speaker 1: Yeah, So here's what I would say. There's different parts

1824
01:15:55,640 --> 01:16:01,040
Speaker 1: of the experience. As for the music, I found it inoffensive.

1825
01:16:01,720 --> 01:16:03,439
Speaker 1: I thought I was gonna like make my skin crawl.

1826
01:16:03,560 --> 01:16:04,280
Speaker 1: It did make my skin.

1827
01:16:04,640 --> 01:16:07,840
Speaker 2: I will say when the jams heated up, the opening

1828
01:16:07,920 --> 01:16:10,000
Speaker 2: tracks were very tame compared to where it went.

1829
01:16:10,120 --> 01:16:12,920
Speaker 1: You know what I mean, all of the music is tame.

1830
01:16:13,120 --> 01:16:14,400
Speaker 1: There's nothing about the music.

1831
01:16:14,320 --> 01:16:16,800
Speaker 2: So it's not dude, it heated up. I mean there

1832
01:16:16,800 --> 01:16:18,760
Speaker 2: were moments in al THEO where I was, you know,

1833
01:16:19,120 --> 01:16:20,320
Speaker 2: Dale Senior in Turn four.

1834
01:16:20,800 --> 01:16:23,000
Speaker 1: Also you were on row eight and a half.

1835
01:16:25,479 --> 01:16:27,120
Speaker 2: Was the delta designation.

1836
01:16:27,280 --> 01:16:28,600
Speaker 1: Let me let me say, let me say this. So

1837
01:16:28,640 --> 01:16:31,519
Speaker 1: there's different parts of the experience. Here is my understanding

1838
01:16:31,560 --> 01:16:36,519
Speaker 1: of Grateful Dead music. It's basically gospel for secular whites.

1839
01:16:37,280 --> 01:16:41,120
Speaker 1: That's that is, that's what it's for. Because you see

1840
01:16:41,120 --> 01:16:42,600
Speaker 1: these guys. Great me if I'm wrong, because they all

1841
01:16:42,680 --> 01:16:44,720
Speaker 1: got their phones because it's the sphere, but they're all

1842
01:16:44,880 --> 01:16:47,920
Speaker 1: just kind of waving and everyone's putting their hands in

1843
01:16:47,960 --> 01:16:51,080
Speaker 1: the air. It's like a revival music. Turn of the century.

1844
01:16:51,200 --> 01:16:53,479
Speaker 1: It's it's gospel for people who don't believe in God.

1845
01:16:53,560 --> 01:16:55,360
Speaker 2: Basically is really what it is, just for people who

1846
01:16:55,479 --> 01:16:55,960
Speaker 2: enjoy love.

1847
01:16:56,080 --> 01:16:58,120
Speaker 1: I think it's a certain kind of it's a certain

1848
01:16:58,200 --> 01:17:01,479
Speaker 1: kind of passive, tantric most experience that goes with it.

1849
01:17:01,680 --> 01:17:03,360
Speaker 1: But I didn't find it very offensive. I found it

1850
01:17:03,439 --> 01:17:06,680
Speaker 1: boring the music, but not offensive. Let me say that.

1851
01:17:07,000 --> 01:17:09,479
Speaker 2: Bob Wear's oldest shit, but he brought it by the end.

1852
01:17:09,760 --> 01:17:13,200
Speaker 1: They had the old man river on the fucking yesterday,

1853
01:17:13,240 --> 01:17:16,799
Speaker 1: and I was like, this guy's life expected see sunday. Okay, okay,

1854
01:17:17,360 --> 01:17:18,960
Speaker 1: someone around me it wasn't you were made. But someone

1855
01:17:18,960 --> 01:17:20,799
Speaker 1: around me was like, yo, put this guy out to pasture.

1856
01:17:20,840 --> 01:17:22,760
Speaker 1: I was like, what okay, Okay, I mean, what are

1857
01:17:22,800 --> 01:17:24,200
Speaker 1: we doing with our fellow? Okay, So let me say

1858
01:17:24,240 --> 01:17:30,640
Speaker 1: that the sphere, holy fucking shit, dude. I don't have

1859
01:17:30,880 --> 01:17:32,760
Speaker 1: the words, you see, I don't have the words.

1860
01:17:32,880 --> 01:17:35,640
Speaker 2: The only words I can tell you is that the

1861
01:17:35,720 --> 01:17:37,880
Speaker 2: day my kids were born, the night I married my

1862
01:17:37,920 --> 01:17:40,760
Speaker 2: beautiful wife, Yeah, are you know, the clubhouse leaders, and

1863
01:17:40,840 --> 01:17:42,880
Speaker 2: the greatest nights of my life. I'm not doing a

1864
01:17:42,920 --> 01:17:45,000
Speaker 2: bit here. I'm not trying to over sensationalize, even though

1865
01:17:45,000 --> 01:17:48,120
Speaker 2: I'm wearing these obscene pants right now. Last night was

1866
01:17:48,160 --> 01:17:50,200
Speaker 2: among the greatest nights of my life because I understand

1867
01:17:50,240 --> 01:17:52,840
Speaker 2: when you merge a band that you love with a

1868
01:17:52,880 --> 01:17:55,080
Speaker 2: friendship experience that we had with Otel, and then you're

1869
01:17:55,160 --> 01:17:57,080
Speaker 2: in the freaking sphere, which is not a ten out

1870
01:17:57,080 --> 01:17:59,200
Speaker 2: of ten. It's like a ten thousand out of ten

1871
01:17:59,240 --> 01:18:00,479
Speaker 2: in terms of what my spectations.

1872
01:18:00,720 --> 01:18:03,240
Speaker 1: It's. It's dude, Honestly, I could have stayed for the

1873
01:18:03,280 --> 01:18:05,640
Speaker 1: whole show. If I'm being dead serious. I have a

1874
01:18:05,680 --> 01:18:07,840
Speaker 1: lot of problems sleeping this day. These days, I'm on

1875
01:18:08,000 --> 01:18:09,800
Speaker 1: drugs to try try and sleep. I cannot go to

1876
01:18:09,800 --> 01:18:10,680
Speaker 1: sleep naturally.

1877
01:18:10,600 --> 01:18:11,679
Speaker 2: As a recurring in your life.

1878
01:18:11,880 --> 01:18:15,080
Speaker 1: I know these ones are doctor prescribed. So I didn't

1879
01:18:15,120 --> 01:18:17,439
Speaker 1: get sleep the night before and I was like on

1880
01:18:17,920 --> 01:18:20,280
Speaker 1: fumes and I couldn't take it anymore. So I agreed

1881
01:18:20,320 --> 01:18:22,400
Speaker 1: to it for basically an hour and then I left.

1882
01:18:24,240 --> 01:18:28,920
Speaker 1: But the sphere itself is, however cool it looks on

1883
01:18:29,080 --> 01:18:34,800
Speaker 1: Instagram or TikTok, it's ten billion times cooler than that.

1884
01:18:34,840 --> 01:18:37,160
Speaker 1: And I can't overstate this. We were on we were

1885
01:18:37,200 --> 01:18:38,960
Speaker 1: in the three hundred section, so we were on the

1886
01:18:39,000 --> 01:18:40,519
Speaker 1: sixth floor. I don't know how the math works, but

1887
01:18:40,560 --> 01:18:42,280
Speaker 1: that's where we were. Good seats, by the way, By

1888
01:18:42,320 --> 01:18:44,280
Speaker 1: the way, not a fucking bad seat there is in

1889
01:18:44,360 --> 01:18:44,719
Speaker 1: the house.

1890
01:18:44,800 --> 01:18:47,240
Speaker 2: Maybe if you were lower underneath the overhanger and the

1891
01:18:47,320 --> 01:18:48,400
Speaker 2: general mission, maybe, but.

1892
01:18:48,520 --> 01:18:50,160
Speaker 1: If you're in the stands, like you're in the middle

1893
01:18:50,160 --> 01:18:52,120
Speaker 1: of the stands, trust me when I tell you you're

1894
01:18:52,160 --> 01:18:56,320
Speaker 1: not missing anything. I cannot overstate this the sphere in

1895
01:18:56,439 --> 01:18:58,439
Speaker 1: terms of the graphics. It doesn't just go right in

1896
01:18:58,479 --> 01:19:00,680
Speaker 1: front of you. It goes well past your line of

1897
01:19:00,760 --> 01:19:03,400
Speaker 1: vision here and well past your line of vision when

1898
01:19:03,439 --> 01:19:06,519
Speaker 1: you look up, so you're only seeing the sphere. You

1899
01:19:06,640 --> 01:19:09,320
Speaker 1: have to like literally go like this to not see it.

1900
01:19:09,360 --> 01:19:11,400
Speaker 1: You have to turn way around to not see it.

1901
01:19:11,880 --> 01:19:14,200
Speaker 1: It was so immersive. I'm not kidding now. I may

1902
01:19:14,280 --> 01:19:17,000
Speaker 1: or may not have had fifty seven thousand THHD gummies

1903
01:19:17,040 --> 01:19:17,640
Speaker 1: in myself.

1904
01:19:17,640 --> 01:19:18,639
Speaker 2: Wow, that's a big reveal.

1905
01:19:18,760 --> 01:19:21,720
Speaker 1: However, However, I was so freaked out when they were

1906
01:19:21,800 --> 01:19:24,600
Speaker 1: pulling out into outer space in the opening, yes, that

1907
01:19:24,720 --> 01:19:26,320
Speaker 1: I literally had to look at my phone so I

1908
01:19:26,360 --> 01:19:29,040
Speaker 1: could get my balance back. And it was shocking.

1909
01:19:29,200 --> 01:19:31,400
Speaker 2: It's so steep up that high, so steep, and we

1910
01:19:31,439 --> 01:19:33,320
Speaker 2: weren't even close to as high as it goes. No, no, no,

1911
01:19:33,439 --> 01:19:36,040
Speaker 2: I was not talking about our tox toxicology reports. I'm

1912
01:19:36,040 --> 01:19:38,720
Speaker 2: talking about the angles of the thing. But yet there

1913
01:19:38,840 --> 01:19:41,080
Speaker 2: was at least fifteen times last night that I had

1914
01:19:41,160 --> 01:19:43,120
Speaker 2: to forcibly sit down there. I felt like I was

1915
01:19:43,160 --> 01:19:45,840
Speaker 2: going to fall over onto the stage thousands of feet

1916
01:19:45,840 --> 01:19:46,360
Speaker 2: below it felt.

1917
01:19:46,360 --> 01:19:47,800
Speaker 1: And there's a I won't I won't spoil it, but

1918
01:19:47,880 --> 01:19:50,080
Speaker 1: they do. They play with the sound and whatnot and

1919
01:19:50,160 --> 01:19:53,320
Speaker 1: the visuals where something zoomed from behind us and it

1920
01:19:54,040 --> 01:19:57,160
Speaker 1: was it was dude. Just that alone, you could go

1921
01:19:57,320 --> 01:20:01,280
Speaker 1: sober not care about the music. Thus the visual show

1922
01:20:01,560 --> 01:20:04,640
Speaker 1: alone would leave you breathless. And I'm going to say this,

1923
01:20:04,800 --> 01:20:07,120
Speaker 1: I don't know what the UFC has cooked up for

1924
01:20:07,280 --> 01:20:10,200
Speaker 1: the show there, and it could fall flat. I don't know.

1925
01:20:10,360 --> 01:20:12,960
Speaker 1: I don't know, but if they match what we saw

1926
01:20:13,080 --> 01:20:15,960
Speaker 1: last night in terms of visual presentation, it will be

1927
01:20:16,160 --> 01:20:18,640
Speaker 1: one of the greatest nights in combat sports history, just

1928
01:20:19,439 --> 01:20:20,479
Speaker 1: on that alone.

1929
01:20:20,520 --> 01:20:22,720
Speaker 2: So I've had talks about this with people since the

1930
01:20:22,760 --> 01:20:24,840
Speaker 2: concert last night, about what would the UFC look like

1931
01:20:24,920 --> 01:20:26,640
Speaker 2: in there, And I do think from the standpoint of

1932
01:20:26,760 --> 01:20:29,800
Speaker 2: having fighters look thousands of feet tall in front of you,

1933
01:20:30,280 --> 01:20:33,559
Speaker 2: fighting each other. That might be the most ridiculous fight

1934
01:20:33,600 --> 01:20:37,000
Speaker 2: experience ever. But I don't necessarily feel like though, not

1935
01:20:37,160 --> 01:20:40,040
Speaker 2: just UFC, but combat sports in general is a right

1936
01:20:40,120 --> 01:20:41,040
Speaker 2: fit for that venue.

1937
01:20:41,120 --> 01:20:42,920
Speaker 1: Well, they got their work cutout for them. But I'm

1938
01:20:43,000 --> 01:20:45,880
Speaker 1: gonna say this, I'm a hater. People always say, oh, Luke,

1939
01:20:45,880 --> 01:20:48,800
Speaker 1: you're a hater. I am a hater. I don't like

1940
01:20:48,920 --> 01:20:51,760
Speaker 1: things very easily. I don't impress easily, and I don't

1941
01:20:51,840 --> 01:20:55,479
Speaker 1: like Las Vegas. Dude, if you come to this city,

1942
01:20:55,680 --> 01:20:57,680
Speaker 1: I don't give a shit. Who is playing at the

1943
01:20:57,760 --> 01:20:58,720
Speaker 1: sphere Go.

1944
01:21:00,120 --> 01:21:01,920
Speaker 2: I don't know if any other band, though, has the

1945
01:21:02,160 --> 01:21:04,880
Speaker 2: video set up to pair with the songs. So we

1946
01:21:04,920 --> 01:21:07,360
Speaker 2: talked with the lyrics, we talked the moments that they

1947
01:21:07,439 --> 01:21:07,760
Speaker 2: have there.

1948
01:21:07,840 --> 01:21:10,120
Speaker 1: Luke grateful. That is nice. There's a lot of bands

1949
01:21:10,160 --> 01:21:11,960
Speaker 1: that are great. I think there's a lot of bands.

1950
01:21:11,760 --> 01:21:12,760
Speaker 2: I could film that Dead in Company.

1951
01:21:12,800 --> 01:21:15,720
Speaker 1: Let's Dead and Company. Okay, Tool we talked about this

1952
01:21:15,760 --> 01:21:17,599
Speaker 1: before this, Yes too. I don't know if there's any interest,

1953
01:21:17,640 --> 01:21:18,759
Speaker 1: but Tool could easily.

1954
01:21:18,880 --> 01:21:22,000
Speaker 2: It could change people's lives, change change, but it would change.

1955
01:21:22,280 --> 01:21:25,760
Speaker 1: I'm telling you, it's an It's there's nothing I hate

1956
01:21:25,800 --> 01:21:28,840
Speaker 1: giving Las Vegas credit I hate it. There is nothing

1957
01:21:29,000 --> 01:21:29,160
Speaker 1: like that.

1958
01:21:29,400 --> 01:21:31,280
Speaker 2: You were a downer when the Sphere first opened. I

1959
01:21:31,400 --> 01:21:33,519
Speaker 2: was very excited about having the experience I had last

1960
01:21:33,560 --> 01:21:35,040
Speaker 2: night to feel it for myself, and it was a

1961
01:21:35,640 --> 01:21:37,280
Speaker 2: one thousand out of ten. I mean, it was just

1962
01:21:38,320 --> 01:21:40,880
Speaker 2: here's the problem with that. I'll never see a greater concert.

1963
01:21:41,160 --> 01:21:41,519
Speaker 1: I won't.

1964
01:21:41,680 --> 01:21:43,920
Speaker 2: I won't because it can't you unless I you know,

1965
01:21:44,000 --> 01:21:46,479
Speaker 2: unless my other favorite bands find their way there, and

1966
01:21:46,560 --> 01:21:49,200
Speaker 2: maybe they do something even crazier. But it's the grateful

1967
01:21:49,240 --> 01:21:51,280
Speaker 2: Dead's history playing into what Dead and Company did and

1968
01:21:51,360 --> 01:21:52,679
Speaker 2: the the I mean.

1969
01:21:53,160 --> 01:21:56,320
Speaker 1: Can I be honest, it's a lot of John Mayer. Well,

1970
01:21:56,479 --> 01:21:57,400
Speaker 1: a lot of John Mayer.

1971
01:21:57,400 --> 01:21:58,760
Speaker 2: There is a lot of John may I would have

1972
01:21:58,760 --> 01:22:00,200
Speaker 2: liked a little more o Teal on that big screen,

1973
01:22:00,240 --> 01:22:02,800
Speaker 2: but I'll tell you this Mayor's a bad man, dude.

1974
01:22:02,880 --> 01:22:04,960
Speaker 2: I mean, I know about John Mayer's guitar playing. I've

1975
01:22:04,960 --> 01:22:06,840
Speaker 2: been a fan of all of his music and in

1976
01:22:06,920 --> 01:22:10,000
Speaker 2: this specific project as well. But dude, he impressed me

1977
01:22:10,080 --> 01:22:11,680
Speaker 2: on other levels last night.

1978
01:22:11,840 --> 01:22:13,280
Speaker 1: I didn't walk away super impressed by him.

1979
01:22:13,720 --> 01:22:15,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, we didn't get to that point. You were what

1980
01:22:15,160 --> 01:22:16,640
Speaker 2: was three and a half songs in uh?

1981
01:22:17,720 --> 01:22:19,360
Speaker 1: I don't know they were songs were long by the

1982
01:22:19,360 --> 01:22:19,719
Speaker 1: wa when.

1983
01:22:19,600 --> 01:22:21,519
Speaker 2: We were in the vortex of that screen that I

1984
01:22:21,600 --> 01:22:22,920
Speaker 2: knew it was it might be go time for you,

1985
01:22:23,000 --> 01:22:23,519
Speaker 2: but we've got.

1986
01:22:23,439 --> 01:22:25,760
Speaker 1: Some I want to say. I want to say this

1987
01:22:25,840 --> 01:22:31,519
Speaker 1: to Otell Burbridge. What amench? What a nice guy I had?

1988
01:22:31,560 --> 01:22:33,240
Speaker 1: I don't know. I didn't know anything really about him

1989
01:22:33,400 --> 01:22:35,760
Speaker 1: or whatever I sold. I was the first time meeting him, you,

1990
01:22:35,840 --> 01:22:37,040
Speaker 1: first time for you meeting him right.

1991
01:22:37,080 --> 01:22:38,679
Speaker 2: I was on his podcast, first time in person meeting

1992
01:22:38,680 --> 01:22:39,519
Speaker 2: okay for some person.

1993
01:22:40,160 --> 01:22:45,439
Speaker 1: Incredible guy, more than generous, so friendly, so conversant, A

1994
01:22:45,640 --> 01:22:48,840
Speaker 1: true MK donk. We met his his wife as well,

1995
01:22:49,360 --> 01:22:52,280
Speaker 1: couldn't have been more lovely, friendly as well. Two people

1996
01:22:52,360 --> 01:22:55,879
Speaker 1: that treated us way nicer than we deserve to be treated. Otel,

1997
01:22:56,360 --> 01:22:58,960
Speaker 1: thank you so much. I don't like the music, but

1998
01:22:59,080 --> 01:23:02,479
Speaker 1: I like you a lot. You're you made my night

1999
01:23:02,760 --> 01:23:05,680
Speaker 1: blew me away. Congratulations on all your success and thank

2000
01:23:05,720 --> 01:23:07,360
Speaker 1: you for supporting MK, and thank you for giving me

2001
01:23:07,360 --> 01:23:10,400
Speaker 1: the opportunity to do that last night. What a What

2002
01:23:10,600 --> 01:23:12,479
Speaker 1: a experience it really was. What an experience.

2003
01:23:12,520 --> 01:23:14,400
Speaker 2: I mean when I say it's now the best concert

2004
01:23:14,439 --> 01:23:17,200
Speaker 2: I've ever been to, It's the best art that I've

2005
01:23:17,240 --> 01:23:20,160
Speaker 2: ever seen that combination of sound visual in what was happening.

2006
01:23:20,520 --> 01:23:24,160
Speaker 1: It's I'm not so overwhelming you you have to see it.

2007
01:23:24,200 --> 01:23:26,160
Speaker 2: But I'm not doing a bit here. And I've been

2008
01:23:26,200 --> 01:23:28,080
Speaker 2: to jam great jam Ban show as I followed Fish

2009
01:23:28,120 --> 01:23:30,240
Speaker 2: on tour before, Like, I think part of me healed

2010
01:23:30,280 --> 01:23:32,040
Speaker 2: last night, part of me deep inside there was like

2011
01:23:32,600 --> 01:23:35,120
Speaker 2: I'm not kidding, there were there was a it was

2012
01:23:35,160 --> 01:23:37,080
Speaker 2: almost a spiritual event at the same time.

2013
01:23:36,960 --> 01:23:39,200
Speaker 1: How many whippets did you hit in the RBS parking

2014
01:23:39,240 --> 01:23:39,959
Speaker 1: lot afterwards?

2015
01:23:40,160 --> 01:23:42,639
Speaker 2: Before we have some elements a quick little fun side,

2016
01:23:42,680 --> 01:23:44,800
Speaker 2: so hopefully we'll be putting some of our otherisms. We

2017
01:23:44,840 --> 01:23:45,320
Speaker 2: recorded a.

2018
01:23:45,280 --> 01:23:46,639
Speaker 1: Bunch of stuff. We're gonna send it to our video

2019
01:23:46,720 --> 01:23:47,840
Speaker 1: editor to put together a litt I.

2020
01:23:47,840 --> 01:23:50,080
Speaker 2: Put together a little taste just for if anyone's curious

2021
01:23:50,120 --> 01:23:51,920
Speaker 2: about our experience last night. Let's run through a couple

2022
01:23:52,000 --> 01:23:55,280
Speaker 2: of the items here, Luke, we can comment on it. So, Luke,

2023
01:23:55,320 --> 01:23:57,160
Speaker 2: we arrived at the sphere on the outside and you're

2024
01:23:57,240 --> 01:24:00,519
Speaker 2: just like, f this experience, keep it going.

2025
01:24:02,840 --> 01:24:04,479
Speaker 1: Security had to come get your boy.

2026
01:24:04,400 --> 01:24:06,720
Speaker 2: I mean, she lingered, She lingered in those areas.

2027
01:24:06,560 --> 01:24:08,720
Speaker 1: Luke, Yeah, you know, I don't don't worry.

2028
01:24:08,760 --> 01:24:13,720
Speaker 2: I was farting right, Well, keep it going in the Yes,

2029
01:24:13,840 --> 01:24:15,640
Speaker 2: that was that was my experience with you, and I

2030
01:24:15,760 --> 01:24:16,240
Speaker 2: loved it, Luke.

2031
01:24:16,280 --> 01:24:17,120
Speaker 1: I loved every second.

2032
01:24:17,439 --> 01:24:19,920
Speaker 2: There's a lot of white people in the crowd.

2033
01:24:19,960 --> 01:24:20,880
Speaker 1: You a lot of whites.

2034
01:24:21,000 --> 01:24:21,639
Speaker 2: Let's keep it going.

2035
01:24:21,640 --> 01:24:24,479
Speaker 1: A lot of whites, Dude, I cannot. So they started

2036
01:24:24,520 --> 01:24:27,960
Speaker 1: out eye level with the houses in the hate Ashbury

2037
01:24:27,960 --> 01:24:31,000
Speaker 1: district of San Francisco, and then they slowly just pull

2038
01:24:31,080 --> 01:24:35,000
Speaker 1: out into outer space. It, dude, it was I literally BC.

2039
01:24:35,120 --> 01:24:37,120
Speaker 1: Did I not tell you I was getting anxiety? It

2040
01:24:37,280 --> 01:24:39,880
Speaker 1: was because I felt like I was being dragged into

2041
01:24:39,920 --> 01:24:40,200
Speaker 1: out like.

2042
01:24:40,240 --> 01:24:41,560
Speaker 2: I shared this with my wife and she was like,

2043
01:24:41,640 --> 01:24:43,040
Speaker 2: I couldn't you know, she doesn't like these type of

2044
01:24:43,120 --> 01:24:44,840
Speaker 2: rides that I couldn't understand that.

2045
01:24:45,680 --> 01:24:48,040
Speaker 1: I got to say this, if you are like queasy

2046
01:24:48,040 --> 01:24:49,880
Speaker 1: about this stuff, maybe the sphere is not for you

2047
01:24:50,040 --> 01:24:50,360
Speaker 1: might not be.

2048
01:24:50,479 --> 01:24:52,680
Speaker 2: Let's keep that. Let's keep the items going. I mean,

2049
01:24:52,800 --> 01:24:55,360
Speaker 2: just the the imagery was just incredible. That was a

2050
01:24:55,400 --> 01:24:56,120
Speaker 2: beautiful moment.

2051
01:24:56,360 --> 01:24:58,479
Speaker 1: That was cool. I saw I left during this part.

2052
01:25:00,520 --> 01:25:01,280
Speaker 2: As we continue.

2053
01:25:01,840 --> 01:25:04,519
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, the Pyramids of Giza pretty cool.

2054
01:25:06,680 --> 01:25:08,479
Speaker 2: And so Luke, let's play this video out. They don't

2055
01:25:08,479 --> 01:25:10,320
Speaker 2: have sound on it. But this is the moment where

2056
01:25:10,360 --> 01:25:11,439
Speaker 2: I think you lost yourself a.

2057
01:25:11,439 --> 01:25:15,080
Speaker 1: Little bit, dude. This was insane. This was insane. They

2058
01:25:15,120 --> 01:25:18,759
Speaker 1: went from outer space through this tunnel into the Pyramids

2059
01:25:18,800 --> 01:25:21,800
Speaker 1: of Giza, and I just couldn't believe what I was

2060
01:25:21,840 --> 01:25:24,560
Speaker 1: looking at. Again, whatever you think it looks like on

2061
01:25:24,680 --> 01:25:26,920
Speaker 1: your phone or your screen, whatever you're watching this on,

2062
01:25:27,400 --> 01:25:30,040
Speaker 1: it's even better in person, like by a million miles.

2063
01:25:30,320 --> 01:25:31,560
Speaker 2: So let's get We got a couple more for you.

2064
01:25:31,640 --> 01:25:33,720
Speaker 2: I just want to give you a little taste. Legitimately,

2065
01:25:33,720 --> 01:25:35,240
Speaker 2: I could show you one hundred and fifty photos and

2066
01:25:35,280 --> 01:25:36,880
Speaker 2: videos here, and I've got them on my phone. But

2067
01:25:37,080 --> 01:25:39,160
Speaker 2: holy shit, this was at the beginning of ALTHEA and

2068
01:25:39,200 --> 01:25:41,280
Speaker 2: that's the awesome part. I needed Althia on the set

2069
01:25:41,320 --> 01:25:43,720
Speaker 2: listen it showed up. They also played my favorite Dead song,

2070
01:25:43,760 --> 01:25:46,599
Speaker 2: Brown Eyed Women, which was a killer. A Mister Fantasy

2071
01:25:46,640 --> 01:25:50,040
Speaker 2: cover by Traffic was incredible. And then O'tel sang he

2072
01:25:50,080 --> 01:25:52,280
Speaker 2: hadn't sang lead all tour. He sang Fire on the

2073
01:25:52,360 --> 01:25:55,120
Speaker 2: Mountain with which was incredible. Let's advance to the next one.

2074
01:25:55,160 --> 01:25:56,720
Speaker 2: We got a couple more to show you. A lot

2075
01:25:56,760 --> 01:25:59,840
Speaker 2: of these moments broke out Luke, where I entered a

2076
01:25:59,840 --> 01:26:01,519
Speaker 2: few different portals, and I didn't come back for a

2077
01:26:01,520 --> 01:26:01,880
Speaker 2: few minutes.

2078
01:26:01,960 --> 01:26:04,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, I understand that I didn't see this one. I

2079
01:26:04,680 --> 01:26:07,880
Speaker 1: missed this part spectacular.

2080
01:26:08,960 --> 01:26:11,479
Speaker 2: Dude, sugar magnet.

2081
01:26:11,880 --> 01:26:15,880
Speaker 1: So it's it's a religious experience to see something like this.

2082
01:26:16,120 --> 01:26:16,680
Speaker 1: It really is.

2083
01:26:18,920 --> 01:26:20,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, this was a couple of disordered and then this

2084
01:26:20,600 --> 01:26:23,479
Speaker 2: was sort of at the end of Fire on the Mountain.

2085
01:26:23,560 --> 01:26:25,800
Speaker 2: And and you know, if you look too close at

2086
01:26:25,840 --> 01:26:27,280
Speaker 2: the screen, Luke, you can lose a little bit of

2087
01:26:27,320 --> 01:26:28,360
Speaker 2: your mind during these moments.

2088
01:26:28,439 --> 01:26:30,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, you could. I did. I was again. I had

2089
01:26:30,439 --> 01:26:32,000
Speaker 1: a couple of times where I was like, fucking hell,

2090
01:26:32,120 --> 01:26:35,480
Speaker 1: this thing is overwhelming. It truly is overwhelming.

2091
01:26:35,640 --> 01:26:37,919
Speaker 2: Yeah, and if we could close with with this fantastic

2092
01:26:38,000 --> 01:26:40,040
Speaker 2: picture of the two of us to look checking out

2093
01:26:40,360 --> 01:26:43,479
Speaker 2: with our dude otella. The lighting wasn't good back there,

2094
01:26:43,479 --> 01:26:44,160
Speaker 2: but we did our best.

2095
01:26:44,280 --> 01:26:46,240
Speaker 1: He gave us backstage passes to go to this like

2096
01:26:46,320 --> 01:26:49,640
Speaker 1: Friends and Family lounge, and uh, it was great. It

2097
01:26:49,720 --> 01:26:50,000
Speaker 1: was great.

2098
01:26:50,040 --> 01:26:53,439
Speaker 2: We didn't drink though, so well, we were busy with

2099
01:26:53,520 --> 01:26:56,200
Speaker 2: other things. Look, I do appreciate you paying off the bet.

2100
01:26:56,320 --> 01:26:59,360
Speaker 2: You showed up. Yeah, you enriched yourself in the experience.

2101
01:26:59,360 --> 01:27:02,400
Speaker 2: You hit us with a cheewee wee geewe we good.

2102
01:27:03,280 --> 01:27:06,000
Speaker 2: But I don't think this will lead you back into

2103
01:27:06,080 --> 01:27:06,479
Speaker 2: the music.

2104
01:27:06,720 --> 01:27:08,280
Speaker 1: No, I'd rather get fucked to death by an eight

2105
01:27:08,360 --> 01:27:10,400
Speaker 1: dickt Walris than go to another show like that. Yeah.

2106
01:27:10,520 --> 01:27:12,880
Speaker 2: Extreme wow. But if you were into this and you

2107
01:27:13,000 --> 01:27:15,160
Speaker 2: even had a thought about coming out here, guys, it's

2108
01:27:15,360 --> 01:27:15,880
Speaker 2: it is worth it.

2109
01:27:15,920 --> 01:27:19,000
Speaker 1: Also can say one more time, dude, Otel is the man.

2110
01:27:19,479 --> 01:27:22,360
Speaker 1: Otel is the man. Can't doubt, can't say enough good

2111
01:27:22,360 --> 01:27:24,519
Speaker 1: things about him. What a great musician. You know, I

2112
01:27:24,560 --> 01:27:27,200
Speaker 1: can appreciate the musicianship. He's obviously a phenomenal musician.

2113
01:27:27,360 --> 01:27:29,439
Speaker 2: And oh, oh you missed it when they do it,

2114
01:27:29,479 --> 01:27:32,120
Speaker 2: so they do the long tradition at dead concerts, do

2115
01:27:32,200 --> 01:27:35,360
Speaker 2: the long drum solo, which turns into this other thing.

2116
01:27:35,400 --> 01:27:37,160
Speaker 2: It's like world music, right, it just turns into this

2117
01:27:37,280 --> 01:27:40,120
Speaker 2: other thing. Not only was the screens going crazy with

2118
01:27:40,240 --> 01:27:43,040
Speaker 2: crazy drum things, but Otel comes out to join old

2119
01:27:43,120 --> 01:27:45,719
Speaker 2: ass Mickey Hart to do it, and they've got rhythms

2120
01:27:45,760 --> 01:27:47,800
Speaker 2: and patterns going on. And you know, when you're at

2121
01:27:47,840 --> 01:27:49,560
Speaker 2: like the Dobe surround movie theater, and it gives you

2122
01:27:49,560 --> 01:27:50,280
Speaker 2: a little bit of boost.

2123
01:27:50,439 --> 01:27:50,559
Speaker 1: Right.

2124
01:27:50,880 --> 01:27:54,479
Speaker 2: This was that on steroids on like the steroids Chail

2125
01:27:54,520 --> 01:27:56,200
Speaker 2: took against Anderson in the first fight.

2126
01:27:56,320 --> 01:27:56,559
Speaker 1: Level.

2127
01:27:56,800 --> 01:27:58,639
Speaker 2: Look, it would just pop you out of your chair

2128
01:27:58,680 --> 01:27:59,840
Speaker 2: in those moments as the drumming.

2129
01:27:59,840 --> 01:28:02,280
Speaker 1: He I mean, it is experience. I will say this,

2130
01:28:02,360 --> 01:28:04,280
Speaker 1: no again, we weren't sitting like front row or anything.

2131
01:28:05,840 --> 01:28:08,680
Speaker 1: Compared to the concerts that I go to, it was

2132
01:28:09,080 --> 01:28:12,640
Speaker 1: way way more quiet at this one. The concerts I

2133
01:28:12,720 --> 01:28:13,280
Speaker 1: go to are.

2134
01:28:13,560 --> 01:28:15,000
Speaker 2: I normally go to concerts in a dome?

2135
01:28:16,320 --> 01:28:18,240
Speaker 1: True, I'm just saying I don't know if it's typical

2136
01:28:18,320 --> 01:28:19,160
Speaker 1: of I.

2137
01:28:19,200 --> 01:28:22,280
Speaker 2: Felt like they didn't jack the volume. They basically like

2138
01:28:22,360 --> 01:28:23,760
Speaker 2: if you're if you're not there for the music, then

2139
01:28:23,760 --> 01:28:26,439
Speaker 2: the music becomes a soundtrack to the visuals. Yes, and

2140
01:28:26,720 --> 01:28:28,280
Speaker 2: it felt like at least half the people are kind

2141
01:28:28,320 --> 01:28:30,840
Speaker 2: of just there for that. They don't overwhelm you with

2142
01:28:30,920 --> 01:28:33,160
Speaker 2: the music. It sort of plays and even keel with everything.

2143
01:28:33,400 --> 01:28:35,120
Speaker 1: Yes, that's true, But I'm just saying, like the shows

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Speaker 1: that I go to, like I sometimes bring earplugs because

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Speaker 1: they're so fucking loud, this one I didn't need them

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Speaker 1: at all. I was like, oh, yeah, this one's quiet,

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Speaker 1: And what.

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Speaker 2: Do you think the experience would have been on the

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Speaker 2: floor in general mission when you're close to the.

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Speaker 1: Stage, and I think if you can't see overhead, it

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Speaker 1: would have been somewhat limited. So I don't know what

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Speaker 1: the best seat in the house is. I mean, I

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Speaker 1: guess front row is the best seat in the house

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Speaker 1: or whatever. But for the sphere, Honestly, I'll say this,

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Speaker 1: I wouldn't have wanted to be anywhere else in that sphere.

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Speaker 1: I thought we had great seats. I I was. I'm

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Speaker 1: being dead serious over when do I get on this

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Speaker 1: show and heap this kind of effusive praise on anything?

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Speaker 2: Maybe for shot cut rock Monel, Maybe maybe women can

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Speaker 2: we hear a shot out?

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Speaker 1: Yeah? The sphere is the BBLS of venues. That's what

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Speaker 1: it is. Apex Predator. Wow, there's nothing like it. There's

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Speaker 1: nothing like it.

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Speaker 2: Alrighty uh luke. We closed to remind you here that

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Speaker 2: DraftKings are a great partner, has a great offer for

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Speaker 2: you this weekend. We know it's Tank Davis versus Frank Martin,

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Speaker 2: together a little parlay, Luke, all right, maybe Alex pres

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Speaker 2: By decision mixed with Luca don Chic under twenty five.

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Speaker 1: Points in game four, I'll take the over.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he's probably gonna just be blake guns blazed.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, which waste does he have?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, you're right back against the wall. But if

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Speaker 2: tell them about that crown, and I don't mean the you.

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Speaker 1: Know that I've been crowning. Yeah, Uh, the crown is yours.

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Speaker 1: fights as you mentioned, NBA Finals. However you want to

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Speaker 1: The Crown question.

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Speaker 2: A lot of people saying, hey, love what you guys

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Speaker 2: are doing. Love this stuff. With all the Smoke fight,

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Speaker 2: it's very boxing heavy at the moment. Do we have

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Speaker 2: a future doing this type of content in MMA too?

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Speaker 2: New fresh content?

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Speaker 1: Yeah? I think, you know, I think some of the

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Speaker 1: lessons that we've had from doing a couple of these

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Speaker 1: things he's wrapped around shows and boxing is our audience

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Speaker 1: definitely wants it in MMA, probably a lot more, and

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Speaker 1: we should respect that. And we understand that it's a

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Speaker 1: little harder to do because the UFC would not bring

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Speaker 1: us those guys for us to be able to do that.

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Speaker 1: They just they just don't do their kind of thing,

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Speaker 1: So you have to set it all up, which is

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Speaker 1: significantly harder. Here in boxing they just bring you everybody,

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Speaker 1: so it just bring it just makes it simpler. But

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Speaker 1: but there are definitely ways in which we can do

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Speaker 1: this in MMA. We should, We will, and I think

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Speaker 1: the fans will love it, and I.

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Speaker 2: Think they're gonna like it pretty soon too. We got

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Speaker 2: some big ideas coming out and how we're going to

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Speaker 2: continue to add on there. So shout out to Stephen

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Speaker 2: Jackson for joining us on Morning Smoke all the smoke

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Speaker 2: fight the new Combat Sports vertical. We are part of it.

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Speaker 2: We are aligned. We are family with Matt Barnes, Stephen Jackson,

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Speaker 2: Brian Daily and a host of others. Fight Towns, Morning Combat,

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Speaker 2: Great Fight coverage on location. It's what it is. Okay,

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Speaker 2: search out all the smoke fight on on social media,

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Speaker 2: all the smoke boxing. Get in on that action. So

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Speaker 2: Luke Thomas to close. We have a way in this

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Speaker 2: afternoon for Tank versus Frank and everything else going on

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Speaker 2: in the PBC card. We've got one more.

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Speaker 1: Piece of business for the people, right we do. We

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Speaker 1: have a post way and show today. Oh yes, yes, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I thought you've met right now? No, yeah, yeah, So

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Speaker 1: after the wayans after the Way and joined us right

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Speaker 1: back here. They're telling us we're gonna get Frank and Tank.

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Speaker 1: They're telling us we're gonna get Frank and Tank for

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Speaker 1: that show.

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Speaker 2: I hope.

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Speaker 1: And I want to ask him about Floyd. I want

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Speaker 1: to ask about Floyd. By the way, apparently Dan Kenobio

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Speaker 1: ran into Tank at CVS last night. There it is.

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Speaker 2: I just winked at Roj. That's my guy. That's my

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Speaker 2: guy right there.

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Speaker 1: Here's here's b C put the my guy Rodge right there.

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Speaker 1: I know that because this is me talking. It's like,

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Speaker 1: b C. My family was.

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Speaker 2: Looks like John Jones as a heavyweight.

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Speaker 1: This is this is how my experience is talking to

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Speaker 1: b C. B C. My family died in a house

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Speaker 1: fire last night. Here's b C.

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Speaker 2: That's the John Mayer face. See the old problem with

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Speaker 2: John Mayer on guitarist. He's looking like he's shitting his

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01:32:38,120 --> 01:32:39,479
Speaker 2: pants as he's going through the motions.

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Speaker 1: There's a lot, I gotta tell you, little, little too

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Speaker 1: much John Mayer for me last night.

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Speaker 2: Okay, okay, well you should see Friends on tour if

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Speaker 2: he gets back there.

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Speaker 1: You know what Otel and Friends.

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Speaker 2: Oh I love that ship. Thank you to everybody for

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Speaker 2: tuning in. More to calm after the tank Frank way

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01:32:54,760 --> 01:32:57,320
Speaker 2: in later today, check out the Morning Combat channel on YouTube.

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Speaker 2: Anything else you want to say, follow us all that

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Speaker 2: good stuff.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, follow us on all the socials, Follow all the

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Speaker 1: smoke fight, Follow all the Smoke Fight on YouTube. On

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Speaker 1: any kind of social place. You're gonna get tons of

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Speaker 1: boxing and MMA news there, and uh I guess check

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Speaker 1: us out post way ends today.

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Speaker 2: There it is whoomp, there it is and we are

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Speaker 2: out bye,