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Speaker 1: Welcome into the Lounge, presented by DraftKings. If there was

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Speaker 1: ever a size them Up Monday, this is it, Garrett,

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Speaker 1: size them uh baby. After the Ravens thirty three to

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Speaker 1: nineteen win over the San Francisco forty nine ers, they

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Speaker 1: said this was a super Bowl preview. You get a

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Speaker 1: super Bowl preview, that's a size them up Monday. Garrett.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well, if this is a super Bowl preview, then

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Speaker 2: I mean, I'm feeling pretty good about me.

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Speaker 3: This is one of those.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, this is one of those you come down the stairs.

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Speaker 2: You know, this is throughout all the analogies we're talking

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Speaker 2: to size them up. It's also Christmas, So you come

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Speaker 2: down the stairs, you look at the tree, you see

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Speaker 2: all the gifts that are underneath there, and this is

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Speaker 2: the best one. I mean, this is the Christmas you remember,

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Speaker 2: this is the uh you know, the red riding BB

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Speaker 2: gun in front of the Christmas story. This is this

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Speaker 2: is the christ Baby, Yeah, exactly, whatever that gift was,

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Speaker 2: this is it for Ravens fans.

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Speaker 1: Just awesome. I mean, obviously the forty nine Ers are

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Speaker 1: a really really good team. Both teams Cavens this game

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Speaker 1: tied with the best records in their respective conferences at

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Speaker 1: eleven to three. You know, the vast majority of the

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Speaker 1: punnits picked against the Ravens in this game. And if

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Speaker 1: you were to ask me, of course I was going dubs,

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Speaker 1: but I wouldn't have said by fourteen points. To dominate

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Speaker 1: a team like this the way the Ravens did really

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Speaker 1: on both sides of the ball for the vast majority

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Speaker 1: of the game, and special teams will give them their

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Speaker 1: kudos too, and they deserve it to do that on

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Speaker 1: the road in their place on Monday Night football. Like

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Speaker 1: John Harball said after the game, a huge statement by

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Speaker 1: the Ravens tonight.

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Speaker 2: Do you think anybody on the team was aware of

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Speaker 2: the fact that they got people that were picking against them.

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Speaker 3: I'm not sure, just a little bit. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Look, I think I said it going into the week

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Speaker 2: when we talked about it, and I really felt this way.

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Speaker 2: I love the mindset of the Ravens going into this game. Honestly,

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Speaker 2: without good the Ravens have been this year. You can't

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Speaker 2: take it us against the world mentality too often. They're

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Speaker 2: just they're favored in most games. And Lamar Jackson, as

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Speaker 2: we're going to talk about here, is having an MVP

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Speaker 2: caliber season and just everyone most of the time thinks

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Speaker 2: that the Ravens are going to win.

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Speaker 3: Most people think that, but not this week.

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Speaker 2: This week it was on the road, it was Christmas,

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Speaker 2: It was going up against the big bad forty nine

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Speaker 2: ers who were red hot, all the stuff. You know,

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Speaker 2: the forty nine ers have not one but two MVP candidates.

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Speaker 2: All of those things the Ravens were reminded of throughout

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Speaker 2: the week. And I love the mentality that they brought

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Speaker 2: going into this game of not, oh, I don't know

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Speaker 2: if we can do it.

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Speaker 3: It's going to be a challenge. They're so great.

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Speaker 2: Totally respect the forty nine ers, but their mentality going

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Speaker 2: into this game was, by the way, we're eleven and three. Also,

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Speaker 2: we think we're pretty good over here on this side.

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Speaker 2: And I thought they played that way tonight, and yeah,

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Speaker 2: to be able to win by fourteen, I thought, I

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Speaker 2: totally agree with you. This was a statement game to

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Speaker 2: the entire NFL about who the best team in the

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Speaker 1: Right now, let's go ahead and just name names here, Garrett,

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Speaker 1: and the name that I'm going to name here is

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Speaker 1: won by the name of Mike Flores. I mean Mike

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Speaker 1: Florio to Lamar Jackson as he walked off the field

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Speaker 1: after that MVP performance, which we'll get to, said who

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Speaker 1: was that again, What was that guy's name? Mike Flores,

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Speaker 1: Mike Flores, something like that, right, And Mike Florio this

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Speaker 1: past week and making his picks, and look, hey, everybody's

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Speaker 1: got to make their pick. Okay, you're right, you have

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Speaker 1: all the right in the world to make your pick.

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Speaker 1: But when you say that one team, the forty nine

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Speaker 1: out of the Ravens. Yeah, that caught the Ravens attention.

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Speaker 1: And you know, I might have helped with that in

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Speaker 1: Mike actually tweeted back at me on Friday and said,

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Speaker 1: if you actually need motivation from an idiot like me,

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Speaker 1: you've already lost. Well, Mike, it's I hate to break

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Speaker 1: Players and Mike should know this, and I'm sure he

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Speaker 1: it just does. They're human beings, they see this stuff.

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Speaker 1: And the Ravens love being that underdog. They love people,

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Speaker 1: you know, betting against them, and they were, as Lamar

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Speaker 1: Jackson put it pretty bluntly, they felt disrespected by those comments.

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Speaker 2: Look, I mean as as someone who as we both do,

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Speaker 2: think that there's you know, so you're that's just the

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Speaker 3: You make predictions and you get some right, you get

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Speaker 2: But certainly, and I'm sure that Floria knew he was

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Speaker 2: adding a little bit of you know, the the delivery

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Speaker 2: can say that, and I think that caught the Ravens attention.

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Speaker 2: It did catch their attention and they use that as motivation,

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Speaker 2: not that they needed it, but it doesn't hurt.

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Speaker 3: It doesn't hurt.

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Speaker 2: And I think that like they they went out in

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Speaker 1: Well, the comment was that it's a race for second place.

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Speaker 1: That's just totally dismissing, like the Ravens aren't even stepping

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and you know, I think I just felt like

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Speaker 2: in hearing everything throughout the week, like the defense was like, look,

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Speaker 2: we got a ton of respect for them. They've got

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Speaker 2: And I don't think the Ravens, you know, Kyle Hamilton,

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Speaker 2: So I guess he was pretty you know, deliver some

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Speaker 2: That's been a theme of this team all season long.

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Speaker 2: They are gonna hit you in the mouth. Patrick Queen

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Speaker 1: And they're gonna talk about how they're gonna hit you

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Speaker 1: and then they're gonna do it. And they have no shame,

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Speaker 1: then with their chests out, puffed out, saying bring it.

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Speaker 1: That's just what this team is, specifically on defense. It's

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Speaker 1: been that way, and Lamar Jackson is a killer in

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Speaker 1: but that dude's killer too, and he keeps the receipts

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Speaker 1: not asked about it. He brings up twenty nineteen and

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Speaker 1: this isn't the first time he's done that in recent

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Speaker 1: twenty nineteen, where you're beating good teams, you're beating them

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Speaker 1: how that season ended, and it ended way too early,

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Speaker 1: the Ravens write a different story this time around.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, I mean I'm I'm totally with you, and I

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Speaker 2: continued the conversation about Lamar. You know, coming into this game,

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Speaker 2: brock Perty was the leading candidate in the MVP vote.

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Speaker 2: In the MVP race, Lamar Jackson has stepped in front

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Speaker 2: that watched that game tonight. You know, I think that

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Speaker 2: he he clearly showed that he's the most valuable player

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Speaker 3: He delivered that kind of Joe.

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Speaker 1: Buck straight up said he's the best player on the field. Yep.

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Speaker 2: You could just you could hear it. And he had

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Speaker 2: an incredible command of the game. He delivered the highlight

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Speaker 3: He just was great.

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Speaker 2: He was great, and he's That's that's the leading conversation

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Speaker 2: you know on all the sports talk shows tomorrow. Are

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Speaker 2: the Ravens the best team in the league? I think

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Speaker 2: the answer is yes. And is Lamar Jackson the MVP?

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Speaker 2: And I would also say the answer to that question

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Speaker 1: But he's the most valuable player on the best team

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Speaker 1: in the league, yep, and period. And so there's no

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Speaker 1: there's no, there's nothing else that you need to say.

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Speaker 1: Look the numbers, the numbers aren't there compared to his

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Speaker 1: But when you watch the games, which not all these

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Speaker 1: I can guarantee you they were watching tonight and what

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Speaker 1: they saw was a quarterback who was in complete control

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Speaker 1: any means necessary. And it's not like Lamar had eye

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Speaker 1: two hundred and fifty two yards passing in two touchdowns.

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Speaker 1: He ran for another forty five yards, so you know

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Speaker 1: he's under three hundred total yards. But if you were

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Speaker 1: to say who was the best player, there's no doubt

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Speaker 1: that it was Lamar Jackson. Look the uh the Ravens

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Speaker 1: offense against this defense. The forty nine Ers had not

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Speaker 1: given up a scoring plays on seven straight drives in

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Speaker 1: eighteen years. The team had done that to the forty

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Speaker 1: longest streak of consecutive drives scoring drives since twenty nineteen

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Speaker 1: And not just the story of history. But they're one

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Speaker 1: What I think that they found consistently now, which is

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's almost like like you don't want the play

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Speaker 2: But like there's not a script when when it goes

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Speaker 1: Yep, I absolutely agree. Well, we can't short change the

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Speaker 1: get five interceptions, that's a mighty good night. Yeah, four

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean five turnovers, you're gonna win I'm thinking

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Speaker 2: They got all these turnovers, like they can't keep that going.

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Speaker 1: Safety safety, the rest trip in large check. Yeah, the

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Speaker 3: Well that was crazy.

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Speaker 2: Well, I mean the third quarter then was like break

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Speaker 2: You kind of felt at halftime, like can the defense

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Speaker 2: can like overstate that, like he was leading the MVP

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean some of it. You know, there were

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Speaker 1: You don't see that one too often. A second one

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that was that was well done.

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Speaker 1: That was well done right off the dome. I mean, gosh,

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Speaker 1: when you can't even when it's a struggle to remember

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Speaker 2: Well yeah, and I got a little close there at

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Speaker 2: Nice for Kyle Hamilton or for Marcus Williams to get

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Speaker 2: that pick and just steal it so everyone could have

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Speaker 2: who left with an injury, as well as Patrick McCarry

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Speaker 1: And Kyle Hamilton was already dealing within the injury from

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Speaker 2: But you know he's playing that he's playing with the

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Speaker 2: He didn't get carted off or anything like that. So

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Speaker 1: The play he made for a second interception, to have

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Speaker 1: I think he's in the conversation. If you're talking about

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Speaker 1: Watt and some of those sack guys who seem to

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Speaker 1: for everything, Kyle Hamilton deserves to be in that converse station.

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Speaker 1: I don't know that he's gonna win it, but we

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's a very very fair point, and

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Speaker 2: not something I mean, I want to enjoy this, but

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Speaker 2: you want Kyle Hamilton on the field against Miami, you know,

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Speaker 2: in six days, and so we'll see. Obviously that'll be

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Speaker 2: a storyline to watch over the course of the week.

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Speaker 2: Another point on the defense before we take a quick break.

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Speaker 2: I just I love watching Brandon Stevens play, like I

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Speaker 2: just he got the deflection that Marlon ends up picking

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Speaker 2: off like Brandon Stevens does not. He embodies like the

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Speaker 2: playing with confidence and having that mentality, gets targeted all

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Speaker 2: the time, doesn't run from it, you know, even if

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00:21:46,240 --> 00:21:49,439
Speaker 2: he gets beat, he comes back and he's like still chirping,

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Speaker 2: you know. And I just love watching that guy play.

445
00:21:52,359 --> 00:21:54,520
Speaker 2: I think he plays with the type of tone and

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00:21:54,680 --> 00:21:56,959
Speaker 2: edge that the Ravens want from the from the players

447
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Speaker 2: on this defense, and then he backs it up and

448
00:21:59,040 --> 00:22:01,320
Speaker 2: he plays at a real highlight. I just he has

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Speaker 2: been such an addition, not an addition, but such a

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Speaker 2: fine basically for this team. As an outside cornerback and

451
00:22:08,200 --> 00:22:09,840
Speaker 2: the Ravens are getting great ball from him. And then

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Speaker 2: on the other side, Marlon Hwfrey's starting to look more

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Speaker 2: and more like himself. He's really looking like himself.

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Speaker 1: That's who I wanted to talk about. Yeah, two weeks

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Speaker 1: ago that Ravens Nation was Ravens flock was all worried

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Speaker 1: about Marlon Humphrey after that Rams game. He's had back

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Speaker 1: to back weeks now really strong, and tonight I thought

458
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Speaker 1: was probably his best game of the year, really physical,

459
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Speaker 1: even the plays that you don't really see him blowing

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Speaker 1: up a lead blocker on a screen to blow up

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Speaker 1: a play in the backfield tackle by somebody else, that

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Speaker 1: kind of stuff. Him playing in the slot a little

463
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Speaker 1: bit more being around the line of scrimmage. I like

464
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Speaker 1: that for him because he is such a big, physical

465
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Speaker 1: player who plays cornerback like he's a linebacker. And yeah,

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Speaker 1: Kyle Hamilton deserves a lot of credit for that second interception,

467
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Speaker 1: but it was Marlon Humphrey breaking up that pass on

468
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Speaker 1: George Kittle that that ball into the air. Let's not

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Speaker 1: forget that that was as much Marlin's play as it

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Speaker 1: was Kyle Hamilton's. And so I thought. I thought Marlon

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Speaker 1: Humphrey getting him back to all pro marlow levels is

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Speaker 1: a huge deal for this defense because I agree with you,

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Speaker 1: Brandon Stevens is playing great ball in the opposite end,

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Speaker 1: and especially when you're going into a game against the

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Speaker 1: Miami Dolphins and the wide receivers they have, you know

476
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Speaker 1: it's gonna it's gonna take all hands on deck and

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Speaker 1: Marlin's really bringing it in there right now.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. So with that said, this a quick break and

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Speaker 2: we come back. We'll give you some early thoughts looking

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Speaker 2: ahead to that game and wrap up the conversation around

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Speaker 2: this win against the forty nine ers. You're listening to

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Speaker 2: hundred gambler. So quick note here, I think big credit

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Speaker 2: to the Ravens for overcoming the early challenge of the

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Speaker 2: ref tackle. Can we just talk about the ref tackle

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Speaker 2: for Lamar ref tackle?

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Speaker 3: You know, go through the stats.

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Speaker 2: They need to add a column for the ref tackle

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Speaker 2: on that safety.

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Speaker 1: You know, when Lamar's running backwards into the ends and

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Speaker 1: I'm not gonna lie, I'm like, no, no, stop, stop

502
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Speaker 1: going backwards. You know, Lamar had a great night, So

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Speaker 1: I think I've at liberty to say this, that wasn't

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Speaker 1: his best play of the game. I would have to say,

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Speaker 1: you know, and yeah, he had defenders, and credit the

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Speaker 1: forty nine ers. They kind of they were like three

507
00:24:48,440 --> 00:24:50,800
Speaker 1: guys chasing them and they all didn't go for the tackle.

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Speaker 1: They just kept pushing him back with their hands up.

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Speaker 1: And you know, Lamar says that Chase Young knew I

510
00:24:56,760 --> 00:24:59,400
Speaker 1: would have gotten rid of that ball, and we all

511
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Speaker 1: know he would have got rid of that bull. It

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Speaker 1: would have been tough for him to get that throwback

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Speaker 1: to the line of scrimmage. I'm not gonna lie. Even

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Speaker 1: if he didn't trip over the ref, that would have

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Speaker 1: been I'm not gonna say he couldn't do it because

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00:25:10,440 --> 00:25:13,040
Speaker 1: it's Lamar and he can make those all platform throws.

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Speaker 1: But that would have been a tough one. The ref though,

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Speaker 1: finished them off. I mean, that was a finishing move

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Speaker 1: by the ref. I mean, you gotta be a better

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00:25:21,320 --> 00:25:24,960
Speaker 1: athlete than that. Look, I can't criticize officiating, but athleticism, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean, you gotta keep your feet and that's I.

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Speaker 3: Mean, it's all.

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Speaker 2: It's all good because the Ravens won. But had they

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Speaker 2: like lost by by one point.

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Speaker 1: I oh that we would not be laughing right now.

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Speaker 2: It would not be a funny story. There would be

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Speaker 2: no chuckles about that play well.

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Speaker 1: And the Lamar did say that the referee, I don't

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Speaker 1: think the referee ingratiated himself to the Raven's flock by

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Speaker 1: the cameras them laughing. I'm like, bro, it's not funny.

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Speaker 1: I'm cheeze right now, like you should not be laughing.

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Speaker 1: And then Lamar said that he did him back to

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Speaker 1: him later in the game and apologize, which all right.

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Speaker 1: I respect that. I respect that yeah, wild.

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Speaker 3: Play, Yeah totally.

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Speaker 2: So you know, I just quickly We're gonna spend all

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Speaker 2: week talking about this game coming up against the Dolphins.

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00:26:13,160 --> 00:26:15,680
Speaker 2: But you know, what are your kind of early thoughts

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00:26:15,800 --> 00:26:17,520
Speaker 2: on this game, knowing, oh, this is a stake.

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Speaker 1: I do want to I do want to say one

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Speaker 1: other thing that I thought was a key takeaway from

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Speaker 1: this game, and that was Zay Flowers. Thirteen targets for

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Speaker 1: Jay Flowers. Nobody else had more than four, and so

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Speaker 1: Zay had nine catches for seventy two yards and a touchdown.

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Speaker 1: And I think that's especially notable given the Keaton Mitchell injury.

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Speaker 1: You know, Keaton Mitchell's been their big play guy on offense.

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Speaker 1: To get him in space and he can take at

548
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Speaker 1: home run. Is Jay Flowers. You know, it's week to week,

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Speaker 1: but it is Tom Monkin gonna lean more on Zay

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Speaker 1: Flowers without Keaton Mitchell to be that guy who takes screens,

551
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Speaker 1: short passes and hopes to get him loose for big

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Speaker 1: plays offensively. I mean, thirteen targets for Zay Flowers. He

553
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Speaker 1: had eleven in the first half alone. Talk about putting

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Speaker 1: a lot on a rookie shoulders in a big game

555
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Speaker 1: like that, My goodness, gracious, plus the touchdown celebration the

556
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Speaker 1: grinch Yeah, that was great. Touchdown celebration. That was his

557
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Speaker 1: best one. Yeah yeah.

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Speaker 2: Well, you know what's funny is it looked like when

559
00:27:12,680 --> 00:27:16,640
Speaker 2: Nelson Egler scored, Zay was trying to do the touchdown

560
00:27:16,680 --> 00:27:19,400
Speaker 2: celebration with him. Look, it looks to me, we're gonna

561
00:27:19,400 --> 00:27:20,600
Speaker 2: have to get to the bottom of this. This is

562
00:27:20,600 --> 00:27:22,800
Speaker 2: gonna be intrepid reporting for us this week. But it

563
00:27:22,840 --> 00:27:24,679
Speaker 2: looked to me like they were trying to get to

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Speaker 2: the they were trying Zay was trying to do the touchdown.

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Speaker 3: Celebration with Agalar and Aglar grinch one. I don't know

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Speaker 3: what it was.

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Speaker 2: It looked like he was trying to do a celebration,

568
00:27:32,960 --> 00:27:35,120
Speaker 2: which I'm gonna guess was a grinch one. But then

569
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Speaker 2: Aglar just wanted to run off the field and he's like,

570
00:27:37,000 --> 00:27:38,800
Speaker 2: now we're not doing it and just ran off the field,

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Speaker 2: so that when Zay scored, he got his moment and

572
00:27:41,359 --> 00:27:43,600
Speaker 2: then him and like we were ready for that celebration,

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00:27:43,640 --> 00:27:46,960
Speaker 2: which was great. To be honest, I still think it's

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00:27:46,960 --> 00:27:48,440
Speaker 2: gonna be weak to week. Like there's been a few

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Speaker 2: different times this year where it's been like, Okay, you

576
00:27:50,520 --> 00:27:53,120
Speaker 2: know here's it's gonna be Zay Flowers and he's gonna

577
00:27:53,160 --> 00:27:57,040
Speaker 2: get whatever ten targets every week, or Odell Beckham's heating up,

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Speaker 2: he's gonna get his eight targets every week, Isaiah like

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Speaker 2: it's his time shot. I just feel like it's going

580
00:28:02,800 --> 00:28:04,640
Speaker 2: to change from week to week, and I think that's

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Speaker 2: actually one of the beauties of the offense. I do

582
00:28:06,920 --> 00:28:09,719
Speaker 2: think that Zay has proven this year like he is

583
00:28:10,040 --> 00:28:13,680
Speaker 2: next to impossible to guard. He really he just gets open,

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Speaker 2: and so I think getting in the ball is key.

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00:28:16,760 --> 00:28:19,159
Speaker 2: I also think in this game, the Ravens wanted to

586
00:28:19,200 --> 00:28:21,840
Speaker 2: be quick with it with the pass rush that the

587
00:28:21,840 --> 00:28:23,480
Speaker 2: forty nine Ers had, and getting the ball to Jay

588
00:28:23,560 --> 00:28:26,760
Speaker 2: quickly I think was a point of emphasis. So I

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Speaker 2: don't know if that will necessarily be the case every week,

590
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Speaker 2: but Zay has proven time and time again that he's

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Speaker 2: capable of big things.

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Speaker 1: And speaking of the pass rush, the forty nine Ers

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Speaker 1: had two sacks, Nick Bosa had zero. That's a heck

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Speaker 1: of a day for the Ravens offensive line. And credit

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Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson too for extending players, getting a way for

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Speaker 1: pressure and really he took a sack when he probably

597
00:28:49,880 --> 00:28:52,800
Speaker 1: didn't have to near the end of the game that

598
00:28:53,400 --> 00:28:54,920
Speaker 1: drove the Ravens out of field goal range. But you

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00:28:54,920 --> 00:28:56,959
Speaker 1: could tell that Lamar just didn't want to throw an

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Speaker 1: interception or do something crazy fumble and he just took that.

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Speaker 1: So props to the Ravens offensive line too, they deserve

602
00:29:03,680 --> 00:29:04,000
Speaker 1: some credit.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Ravens defense. Also, by the way, I had four sacks,

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Speaker 2: so we talked about all the takeaways. They also had

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Speaker 2: four sacks, and they.

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Speaker 1: Got after it late in the game. The forty nine

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00:29:11,160 --> 00:29:13,760
Speaker 1: Ers offensive line was banged up. No, Trent Williams.

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Speaker 2: They got after Clowney feasted after it.

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00:29:16,760 --> 00:29:19,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, Clowney was feasting out there, and and Brent Urban

610
00:29:20,040 --> 00:29:20,800
Speaker 1: was the beneficiary.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, totally. So just kind of quick thoughts. You know.

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Speaker 3: My initial take on the forty nine Ers is that

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Speaker 3: this is.

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Speaker 1: One of those it all kinds of Dolphins.

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00:29:29,440 --> 00:29:33,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, sorry the Dolphins. This is a game that we've

616
00:29:33,080 --> 00:29:35,560
Speaker 2: kind of felt for a little while here. It could

617
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Speaker 2: this could be is going to be critical in deciding

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Speaker 2: that the first place in the AFC. I don't know

619
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Speaker 2: that I necessarily expected it to be win. And it's done.

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Speaker 3: It's over.

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Speaker 2: You know, if I'd gone back a month, I didn't

622
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Speaker 2: necessarily know that this would be a winning you clinch

623
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Speaker 2: first place in the AFC. But it's certainly not going

624
00:29:53,240 --> 00:29:54,520
Speaker 2: to be easy. Ravens are going to be on a

625
00:29:54,520 --> 00:29:56,920
Speaker 2: short week, coming across the country, all that stuff. But

626
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Speaker 2: I'm sure, just like they did this week, that will

627
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Speaker 2: be you used to their advantage and the motivation conversation.

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Speaker 3: During the week.

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Speaker 2: So forty are good, I mean, forty nine's are good.

630
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Speaker 2: Their offense is dynamic, But like the Ravens said all week,

631
00:30:10,600 --> 00:30:12,760
Speaker 2: so is their defense. I'm not gonna be scared, I

632
00:30:12,760 --> 00:30:13,000
Speaker 2: think he.

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Speaker 1: Said for you still, I'm still You're still I'm still

634
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Speaker 1: stuck on the forty nine ers.

635
00:30:17,360 --> 00:30:18,000
Speaker 3: I can't move on.

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Speaker 1: The Dolphins are really good, But the Ravens are beaten

637
00:30:21,440 --> 00:30:23,800
Speaker 1: a lot of really good teams this year. They smoke

638
00:30:23,880 --> 00:30:27,239
Speaker 1: the Detroit Lions, Let's not forget that. Also, right, they

639
00:30:27,520 --> 00:30:30,760
Speaker 1: came in here and beat this team handily. They the

640
00:30:30,840 --> 00:30:34,640
Speaker 1: Rams are looking pretty good. Ravens beat them in recent weeks, right.

641
00:30:34,680 --> 00:30:39,400
Speaker 1: They the Ravens smoked the Seahawks. They've beaten good teams

642
00:30:39,440 --> 00:30:42,960
Speaker 1: this year. The Jags last week were in first place,

643
00:30:43,160 --> 00:30:45,480
Speaker 1: leading their division at the time, twenty three to seven.

644
00:30:45,880 --> 00:30:49,400
Speaker 1: Ravens are rolling. Now, that doesn't is gonna mean anything

645
00:30:49,440 --> 00:30:52,200
Speaker 1: against the Miami Dolphins. But you know what, I like

646
00:30:52,240 --> 00:30:55,000
Speaker 1: the Ravens chances against anybody. But they keep playing like this,

647
00:30:55,440 --> 00:30:58,120
Speaker 1: they will absolutely beat anybody that comes in front of them.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Ravens have been talking really all year about, you know,

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Speaker 2: kind of playing these complete games. Tonight was a complete

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Speaker 2: game offense, defense, special teams. If they put it together.

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Speaker 2: I don't think this team loses. But this team plays

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Speaker 2: a complete game. I think that the best in the NFL.

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Speaker 1: They don't lose out. They win out. You're saying they

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Speaker 1: don't lose the rest of the way. You know what

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Speaker 1: that means?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: I do?

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Speaker 1: You know what you just said? Correct?

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Speaker 2: They if they play a complete game, complete brand of

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Speaker 2: football like they did tonight, they will win out.

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Speaker 3: Which size.

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Speaker 1: Statement from Garrett to end the pod. I love it.

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Speaker 1: Thank you for listening. As always, you can reach us

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Speaker 1: the press conferences in locker room interviews from tonight's big

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