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Speaker 2: God, a miracle the water hit that one from the

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Speaker 2: parking lot. What's off the general nation? Welcome to the

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Speaker 2: Big Bets on Campus Podcast. This is the college Basketball

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Speaker 2: weekend betting Preview. I'm stuck in joining me today. This

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Speaker 2: is two of my friends, Greg Waddell and mister Jim

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Speaker 2: Root from the three Man Weave. US three will be

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Speaker 2: taking you through the weekend each and every Thursday through

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Speaker 2: the NC Double A tournament. We will follow if you've

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Speaker 2: listened last year, similar format. We will, you know, just

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Speaker 2: of our high level Thoughts Futures Roundtable. We will build

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Speaker 2: a portfolio of futures add one every Thursday. We'll obviously

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Speaker 2: talk about our spots that we have circled for Saturday

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Speaker 2: end or Sunday, and we will have a little by

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Speaker 2: low sell high teams that we're looking to buy or

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Speaker 2: sell coming up, and then we might have another topic

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Speaker 2: or two based on what's going on in the sport

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Speaker 2: this week. We'll talk a little start very high level.

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Speaker 2: For the first episode, we'll go through I don't know,

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Speaker 2: let's call it the top twenty or twenty five teams

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Speaker 2: on GEMPOM, and I'll just ask y'all. We'll get down

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Speaker 2: the list. I'll ask you can this team win the

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Speaker 2: national title or not? And we'll see where we disagree. Gentlemen,

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Speaker 2: how goes it? Jim, I'll start with you are based

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Speaker 2: on compared to a normal year. Are you more or

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Speaker 2: less excited about this potential field come March.

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Speaker 4: I think I'm a little more excited because it doesn't

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Speaker 4: feel quite as top heavy. I know Michigan and Arizona

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Speaker 4: have kind of earned their rightful seats as one and two,

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Speaker 4: but I think the teams like three through fifteen are

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Speaker 4: all really good. I would say we might have a

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Speaker 4: comparable year to last year, where the opening round of

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Speaker 4: the tournament might not be all that exciting.

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Speaker 3: You're thirteen through sixteen seeds.

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Speaker 4: May not be pulling the upsets that some of the

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Speaker 4: casual fans may be looking for. But I think we're

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Speaker 4: going to have awesome games from especially Sweet sixteen on

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Speaker 4: their Elite eight Final four. We haven't gotten a lot

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Speaker 4: of them yet, Like the big twelve, the Big Ten.

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Speaker 3: Their schedules are really backloaded this year.

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Speaker 4: So you get a lot of high level matchups coming

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Speaker 4: in late January and February and at the end beginning

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Speaker 4: of March, and I think those are going to set

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Speaker 4: the table for what should be an awesome like second

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I mean, look there it further than Kansas, who you

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Speaker 2: know as a rivalry game on the road this weekend,

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Speaker 2: and then it stuff January thirty first through the end

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Speaker 2: of February. It's Arizona twice, Houston, Iowa State BYU. I mean,

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Speaker 2: it doesn't get much more brutal than that. Greg, how

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Speaker 2: about you more or less excited about this potential field

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Speaker 1: I think more just to Jim's point, I feel like

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Speaker 1: there's a legitimate.

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Speaker 5: Fifteen sixteen teams.

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Speaker 1: That if they make a final four run, I'm not

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Speaker 5: I think you do have some of the beauty of.

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Speaker 1: You know, the final four we got last year was

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Speaker 1: really fun when we got there, even though it was chalky,

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Speaker 1: those were really high level games and we may end

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Speaker 1: up with similar if Michigan and Arizona can hold up

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Speaker 1: their end of the bargain. But you know, we're coming

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Speaker 1: off of college football season, even where it kind of

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Speaker 1: was like the sleeping powerhouse giant the entire time in Indiana.

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Speaker 1: I won't be surprised if we look back and feel

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Speaker 1: that isn't Arizona Michigan. That maybe should be. But uh,

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Speaker 1: I'm looking at the ACC in the Big East a

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we've we're gonna start. Arizona will get I mean

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Speaker 2: they've been tested a bit, but they're gonna get tested

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Speaker 2: you know, Michigan looked Michigan looked like, all right, there

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Speaker 2: do have Bradley, who is in a year where there's

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Speaker 2: And their front line is amazing. But they start three freshmen.

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Speaker 2: Do you know when the last time and team won

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Speaker 3: Fifteen? Duke is my guess?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? Job twenty twelve Kentucky with Anthony Davis.

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Speaker 4: Wait, I'm protesting that Tias Jones, Justice Winslow jo okafor

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Speaker 4: I'm protesting.

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Speaker 3: I mean, look, twenty fifteen.

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Speaker 2: That sounds right to me. Hold on, I'm gonna look, I.

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Speaker 4: Was at the game a sad Wisconsin fan. That's the

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Speaker 2: Well, I was a sad Kentucky fan the week. Actually

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Speaker 2: I was fair at the time, but before then, let's

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Speaker 3: In the process already.

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Speaker 2: You're all right. And by the way, I didn't even

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Speaker 2: night in Arizona, Cincy.

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Speaker 4: No interesting, Okay, I'm coming coming, coming for ESPN or

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Speaker 4: Fox Sports ones head there was it?

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Speaker 2: Maybe did they Yeah, because they also had Grace and

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Speaker 2: Allen But he didn't start. No what Jones started? Thirty

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Speaker 2: gonna have to contact Fox Sports. Great call. All right,

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Speaker 2: let's we'll get we'll go through the top twenty twenty

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Speaker 2: of the week. And you can go anywhere with this.

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Speaker 2: So you can complain, yeao, or you can praise or

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Speaker 1: Remember this is a safe space.

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Speaker 5: You know what pisses me off most of Okay, you're

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Speaker 2: I ran, why not?

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Speaker 1: You gotta let it out somehow?

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Speaker 2: Kent State I mean, this is Miami, a loo team.

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Speaker 2: I've lost some money fading them at times. All you

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Speaker 2: an amazing comeback. They survived the foul trouble with their

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Speaker 2: it again against Kent State. I yeah, I mean ken

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Speaker 2: at Maya, Ohio. But what a story. I mean, the

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Speaker 2: college basketball. Greg, how about you.

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Speaker 1: I'm tired of Mick Cronin's shit, and I think everyone is.

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Speaker 1: BBOC of the year to address this. Do you know

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Speaker 1: how hard it is to make Donovan debt not fun?

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Speaker 1: Mick Cronin has found a way to do that and

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Speaker 1: it was fun this week, of course, great nice performance

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Speaker 1: entire season is just driving me crazy. From UCLA. They're

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Speaker 1: a spot below Darren Devrez's miserable Indiana team Right now

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Speaker 1: never lose at home. He's whining that they have to

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Speaker 1: of we upset perdue because the best point guard in

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Speaker 4: Are you excited for his response when he has to

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Speaker 3: He's going to be a riot after that one. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Wait, I will say that was DEM's best game of

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Speaker 2: seems like this is it's like a rocky relationship, right

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Speaker 2: buy into this UCLA team. Jim, how about you? What

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Speaker 3: For me?

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Speaker 4: It's a little actual forward looking and it's sort of

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Speaker 4: just conference season in general. And a couple people always

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Speaker 4: mentioned this, but the scheduling of one hundred and fifty

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Speaker 4: finally shifting it a little this week, and it's because

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Speaker 4: Mother Nature is sending an act of God through the

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Speaker 4: games moving up from Saturday to Friday, and I just

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Speaker 4: want that more balanced. Why can't we do like fifty

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Speaker 4: I don't know that doesn't add up, but I just

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Speaker 4: I love a Saturday that's wire to wire, you know,

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Speaker 4: island in Central time zone, it's eleven am to past midnight.

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Speaker 3: But I don't need one hundred and fifty games.

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Speaker 4: I'm just begging a couple of these conferences to see

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Speaker 4: is those Friday night opportunities the Big Ten's done it

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Speaker 1: One of those that falls in that category is the

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Speaker 2: But you can't vote for your own. If it ends

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Speaker 4: Illinois and they play for due. But I think it's

436
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Speaker 4: going to show up a little bit in there, just

437
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Speaker 4: not having that high end scoring offense.

438
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Speaker 3: It's a little too much fears creation.

439
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Speaker 2: Great, you want to ad anything on this party.

440
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Speaker 1: Just feel Saint john Z from last year, like this

441
00:22:38,920 --> 00:22:42,439
Speaker 1: defense is for real. But winning six in March, we

442
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Speaker 1: know is different. You've got to be able to make shots.

443
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Speaker 1: I actually think they're shooting it better than I expected

444
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Speaker 1: from outside this year, especially when Trey Ford isn't really

445
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Speaker 1: in the.

446
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Speaker 5: Rotation and he was expected to be.

447
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Speaker 1: But I just I look at the personnel, Fears and

448
00:22:55,800 --> 00:22:58,800
Speaker 1: car on the floor for an entire game together with

449
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Speaker 1: Carson Cooper and Jackson Cohler, who to his credit, was

450
00:23:01,880 --> 00:23:05,000
Speaker 1: shooting fifty three percent from three for like two months.

451
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Speaker 1: If there's any regression there whatsoever, I think this comes

452
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Speaker 1: to a screeching halt.

453
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Speaker 4: Soon regression like one for eleven in his last three.

454
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Speaker 4: That's what it sounds like to me.

455
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Speaker 2: With Dart. Yeah, I mean they're when tang is like

456
00:23:19,160 --> 00:23:22,680
Speaker 2: making threes, that's when I think their offense is most dangerous.

457
00:23:22,720 --> 00:23:28,560
Speaker 2: But can Jackson Cohler keep shooting fifty percent from three two?

458
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Speaker 2: He's the way improved there, But I doubt it. Florida.

459
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Speaker 2: I'm gonna raise my hand. I'm gonna now I can.

460
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Speaker 2: I can make an easy case for Florida. I mean

461
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Speaker 2: Florida going back obviously, they're so well coached. They are

462
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Speaker 2: you can look at like some of the flaws that

463
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Speaker 2: have they get fixed. I think I saw a tweet

464
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Speaker 2: today about one of the worst lineups in all of

465
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Speaker 2: college basketball, Like all of college basketball this year, Florida

466
00:23:56,520 --> 00:23:58,240
Speaker 2: had it one of their starting fives, and in their

467
00:23:58,320 --> 00:24:01,960
Speaker 2: losses they were like a minus sixty five. We haven't

468
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Speaker 2: seen those guys play together once in like the last month.

469
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Speaker 2: You know that they are so analytically sound. They have

470
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Speaker 2: one of, if not the best front court in college basketball.

471
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Speaker 2: Shinnelu's emergence as an offensive force I think has been

472
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Speaker 2: a surprising development. And if you filter out since like

473
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Speaker 2: December one, Florida's been a top ten team despite horrible

474
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Speaker 2: three point splits. I mean, they can't hit a three

475
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Speaker 2: and teams are hitting threes against them regularly. I'm going

476
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Speaker 2: to take a stand, though, and say that that backcourt

477
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Speaker 2: is not is going to get got. They're going to

478
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Speaker 2: run into one of these teams with another elite front court,

479
00:24:40,440 --> 00:24:43,399
Speaker 2: and then their backcourt is going to get out played

480
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Speaker 2: in Fland and Lee. So I think that's where Florida

481
00:24:48,119 --> 00:24:53,000
Speaker 2: eventually gets clipped. So I'm going to say no on Florida. Jim,

482
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Speaker 2: am I crazy, No, You're not crazy.

483
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Speaker 4: I will point out that they have the best offense

484
00:24:58,080 --> 00:25:01,160
Speaker 4: and defense in the SEC right now, despite as you mentioned,

485
00:25:01,520 --> 00:25:03,439
Speaker 4: shooting sub thirty from three on their own end, then

486
00:25:03,440 --> 00:25:06,119
Speaker 4: opponent's shooting over thirty seven percent. So if you were

487
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Speaker 4: able to tilt those skills evenly, they'd be completely smashing

488
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Speaker 4: that conference.

489
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Speaker 3: The problem is the conference.

490
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Speaker 4: Isn't all that good this year at the top end,

491
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Speaker 4: so that kind of undermines the the argument there. Boo

492
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Speaker 4: he planned with a haircut and xavingly wearing ninety nine. Though,

493
00:25:19,160 --> 00:25:21,119
Speaker 4: then they got a chance, Suddenly it looks good for

494
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Speaker 4: Florida's backcourt.

495
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Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe maybe I need to incorporate that. I mean,

496
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Speaker 2: I will say on the road at Duke, they lost

497
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Speaker 2: by one, they lost by four, semi away game against Connecticut.

498
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Speaker 2: But I mean since that Yukon loss, they've looked a

499
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Speaker 2: lot better, I'll give you that. And they've had bad

500
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Speaker 2: three points split, but their wins are GW Saint Francis, Colgate, Dartmouth.

501
00:25:43,280 --> 00:25:49,399
Speaker 2: They lost at Missouri, Georgia, Tennessee, who's way down, Oklahoma, Vandy,

502
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Speaker 2: and LSU. Now Vandy's a good win, but they match up.

503
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Speaker 2: I mean, their front court can just dominate Vandy, and

504
00:25:55,560 --> 00:25:59,800
Speaker 2: that's where Vandy's biggest weakness is. So I'm still not

505
00:26:00,000 --> 00:26:01,480
Speaker 2: all the way there yet in Florida, but I can

506
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Speaker 2: see why anyone would obviously make the case. With the

507
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Speaker 2: defending national chance. All right, we're keep going here Yukon.

508
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Speaker 2: I have to give her, I have to give herley

509
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Speaker 2: as respect, but I could definitely make a case against

510
00:26:16,440 --> 00:26:17,960
Speaker 2: them with their offense. Greg you raise your hand.

511
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Speaker 5: I'm making the case. I'm out on this. I'm doing it.

512
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Speaker 1: I have watched too many of these stinkers against just

513
00:26:23,880 --> 00:26:26,359
Speaker 1: terrible teams that won't even qualify for the NIT in

514
00:26:26,400 --> 00:26:30,080
Speaker 1: the last two weeks, I think, and I hate that

515
00:26:30,160 --> 00:26:32,719
Speaker 1: I'm gonna get pitched forward from the entire world for this.

516
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Speaker 5: I know.

517
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Speaker 2: I am.

518
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Speaker 1: If Dan Hurley is not the head coach of this team,

519
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Speaker 1: none of us are taking them seriously.

520
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Speaker 5: That's where I'm at with this.

521
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Speaker 1: The entire argument that we are all going to hinge

522
00:26:43,000 --> 00:26:45,359
Speaker 1: our wag into on this and I will too, is

523
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Speaker 1: that we believe Dan Hurley is the best coach in

524
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Speaker 1: the game and he could go on Superman mode and

525
00:26:50,840 --> 00:26:53,800
Speaker 1: just drag this team there. I just don't trust their

526
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Speaker 1: offense whatsoever. I don't think they generate good shots. I

527
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Speaker 1: think Demery is capable, but he comes and goes, and

528
00:27:01,080 --> 00:27:03,960
Speaker 1: I think everyone else on that team cannot get two

529
00:27:03,960 --> 00:27:07,000
Speaker 1: feet in the paint. Solo ball has been a disaster

530
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Speaker 1: this season, and ultimately, just saying it out loud, it's

531
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Speaker 1: a team who's best player is Terris Reid, and he's great,

532
00:27:16,040 --> 00:27:19,199
Speaker 1: but even he in his great games, has stretches where

533
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Speaker 1: he gets out played by significantly worse biggs. I just

534
00:27:22,920 --> 00:27:25,960
Speaker 1: can't add the formula up of who's on the court

535
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Speaker 1: for this team. I don't trust their depth. It's just Hurley.

536
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Speaker 1: The argument is always it's Hurley, and they're about to

537
00:27:32,160 --> 00:27:34,800
Speaker 1: run the table in the Big East, by the way, like, Okay,

538
00:27:34,840 --> 00:27:37,960
Speaker 1: they'll drop one somewhere but there's a good chance this

539
00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:40,440
Speaker 1: team is gonna be on the one line because they're

540
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Speaker 1: gonna end up twenty seven and four or better, barely

541
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Speaker 1: losing to anybody good because they don't they play two

542
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Speaker 1: games against top twenty five teams the rest of the season.

543
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Speaker 1: Like I just I'm out on this, this specific version

544
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Speaker 1: of it.

545
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Speaker 5: I'm out on this.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you mentioned reed he I mean, you also have

547
00:27:57,480 --> 00:27:59,720
Speaker 2: to worry about him staying out of foul trouble in games.

548
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Speaker 2: But we did see Yukon like earlier this season against

549
00:28:04,400 --> 00:28:07,879
Speaker 2: higher end you know, competition teams that are gonna be

550
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Speaker 2: on this list. You know, they beat BYU, They you know,

551
00:28:11,800 --> 00:28:15,000
Speaker 2: close game against Dark close loss against Arizona, they beat Illinois,

552
00:28:15,160 --> 00:28:19,760
Speaker 2: they won at Kansas, they beat Florida. But the problem is,

553
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Speaker 2: I do have some problems with their offense, and I

554
00:28:22,160 --> 00:28:24,800
Speaker 2: don't know how much we're gonna learn more about them.

555
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Speaker 2: With how down the East is the rest of the way,

556
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Speaker 2: I mean, maybe they don't. They always they lose at

557
00:28:30,320 --> 00:28:33,560
Speaker 2: Creighton every year, maybe that's again of those maybe at

558
00:28:33,560 --> 00:28:36,320
Speaker 2: Saint John's, But yeah, the Big East is way down.

559
00:28:36,359 --> 00:28:40,280
Speaker 2: I mean, watching Marquette is just a sad experience. Jim

560
00:28:40,560 --> 00:28:41,320
Speaker 2: thoughts on Yukon.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, like the the wins they had in

562
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Speaker 4: the non come most of them away from home, or

563
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Speaker 4: why they're like top three in the country and wins

564
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Speaker 4: above bubble and the lost Arizona's without reading, without Mullins

565
00:28:52,920 --> 00:28:54,840
Speaker 4: and they still almost got the number one team in

566
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Speaker 4: the country at home. But yeah, the fact that they're

567
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Speaker 4: beating George hung by two, seen Haul by five, to

568
00:29:00,280 --> 00:29:04,600
Speaker 4: Paul by twelve Providence in overtime. They're really I don't

569
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Speaker 4: know if they're bored by how bad the conference is

570
00:29:06,960 --> 00:29:09,640
Speaker 4: and typically, you know, even the twenty three title team

571
00:29:09,760 --> 00:29:11,880
Speaker 4: with Hurley like had a real dip in league play

572
00:29:11,960 --> 00:29:15,120
Speaker 4: before dominating against a tournament. Maybe there's something to that

573
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Speaker 4: the film, that familiarity of the Big East coaches with

574
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Speaker 4: each other and the sets that you kind of runs.

575
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Speaker 4: But yeah, it's there's just not a lot of pop

576
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Speaker 4: and pizazz to them right now.

577
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Speaker 3: It's like they're just kind of grinding through, waiting to

578
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Speaker 3: get to March.

579
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Speaker 2: Yep, here's an interesting one, Virginia.

580
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Speaker 3: No, I don't.

581
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Speaker 4: I don't think they can. I don't think the individual

582
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Speaker 4: talent's quite high enough.

583
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Speaker 2: I will I will say I mean that, like, I

584
00:29:41,800 --> 00:29:43,840
Speaker 2: did not expect them to be this good. It seems

585
00:29:43,840 --> 00:29:47,240
Speaker 2: like that roster was just put together very well. And

586
00:29:47,360 --> 00:29:49,520
Speaker 2: I mean Chance Mallory as a freshman has been great,

587
00:29:50,040 --> 00:29:53,880
Speaker 2: Malik Thomas has been great, and I mean de Ritter

588
00:29:54,040 --> 00:29:57,640
Speaker 2: as a freshman. Their rim defense grung ow and de

589
00:29:57,720 --> 00:30:01,360
Speaker 2: Ritter like their rim defense is legit. They get great shots,

590
00:30:01,760 --> 00:30:04,080
Speaker 2: they move the ball extremely well. I mean, they will

591
00:30:04,120 --> 00:30:07,760
Speaker 2: be a tough out under Ryan Odam, But I tend

592
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Speaker 2: to agree with you. I mean, I don't think that

593
00:30:09,200 --> 00:30:14,400
Speaker 2: the higher end talent is there, but an impressive stretch. Nonetheless,

594
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Speaker 2: you know, going to Louisville, I know they were, They've

595
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Speaker 2: They've been a bit fortunate on this stretch. I mean,

596
00:30:18,480 --> 00:30:20,840
Speaker 2: NC State couldn't hit an open shot to save their lives.

597
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Speaker 4: Since January first. They're number one in the country at

598
00:30:24,000 --> 00:30:26,920
Speaker 4: bar Torvik. But that's obviously a fairly limited filter right now,

599
00:30:26,960 --> 00:30:27,800
Speaker 4: it's only three weeks.

600
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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I think we do. You agree, Greg, Virginia

601
00:30:33,960 --> 00:30:35,120
Speaker 2: probably doesn't have the high in talent.

602
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm gonna make an argument later in the show

603
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Speaker 1: that they can make a final four run, though I'm

604
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Speaker 1: very for sure just talking win six like Sea Arizona,

605
00:30:42,400 --> 00:30:43,880
Speaker 1: see Michigan, I don't see it.

606
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Speaker 2: Yeah, once you get to the final four, you're probably

607
00:30:46,120 --> 00:30:48,680
Speaker 2: gonna have to be two the leaite teams this year

608
00:30:48,720 --> 00:30:51,720
Speaker 2: at the top, and that's probably where they run into Nebraska.

609
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Speaker 3: No, same thing, I don't think.

610
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Speaker 2: So. Yeah, here's the thing with Nebraska and a part

611
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Speaker 2: Michigan state in the Big Ten. I mean, you look

612
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Speaker 2: at who Nebraska has played. I mean I could just

613
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Speaker 2: filter this on tour. So Nebraska, by the way they

614
00:31:08,560 --> 00:31:11,160
Speaker 2: might they could what are they going to get a

615
00:31:11,160 --> 00:31:13,040
Speaker 2: two seed? Is that what they're projected to get.

616
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Speaker 3: Right now?

617
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Speaker 5: Right now? Yeah, it's crazy.

618
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Speaker 2: So if you look at who Nebraska well, I mean,

619
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Speaker 2: if you look at the Big Ten and you just

620
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Speaker 2: filter by three point shooting, because I'm telling you right now,

621
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Speaker 2: Nebraska is a they could go on a run. But

622
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Speaker 2: they also have Frager got her. I haven't seen an

623
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Speaker 2: update on him, but he was in a boot yesterday.

624
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Speaker 4: Yeah, day to day, but one of those longer day

625
00:31:36,880 --> 00:31:37,880
Speaker 4: to day things with the ankle.

626
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Speaker 2: I think here's Nebraska is an enormous early upset candidate

627
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Speaker 2: because of the way that they play. They shoot a

628
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Speaker 2: ton of threes and they give up a ton of threes.

629
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Speaker 2: They don't get any offensive rebounds. They're good on the

630
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Speaker 2: defensive class. So it's basically a three point shooting competition

631
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Speaker 2: and the Big Ten can't shoot. So that works for

632
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Speaker 2: Michigan State too, right, they give up a ton of

633
00:32:02,840 --> 00:32:04,959
Speaker 2: threes and no one can shoot in the Big Ten.

634
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Speaker 2: I mean, if you filter by three point percentage, the

635
00:32:08,040 --> 00:32:12,240
Speaker 2: team's in the Big Ten who can shoot Perdue Nebraska

636
00:32:12,280 --> 00:32:14,960
Speaker 2: hasn't played them yet, Iowa, Nebraska hasn't played them yet.

637
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Speaker 2: Like you go, do you start to filter down? I

638
00:32:18,960 --> 00:32:23,040
Speaker 2: mean their last Washington Nebraska are outside the top three hundred.

639
00:32:23,080 --> 00:32:29,520
Speaker 2: That's I mean Washington in Northwestern I mean Rutgers, USC, Maryland, Minnesota,

640
00:32:29,640 --> 00:32:32,360
Speaker 2: like Minnesota. Another team they're gonna play on Saturday that

641
00:32:32,480 --> 00:32:36,600
Speaker 2: can't really shoot, Penn State, Oregon, and Nebraska's played all

642
00:32:36,680 --> 00:32:39,880
Speaker 2: these teams, so they can get away with that in

643
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Speaker 2: the Big Ten, and they don't have the high end

644
00:32:42,800 --> 00:32:46,520
Speaker 2: athleticism as well. So great story with Nebraska, But because

645
00:32:46,520 --> 00:32:48,320
Speaker 2: of the way that they play, and by the way

646
00:32:48,360 --> 00:32:50,960
Speaker 2: they're shooting forty percent from three in conference play, I'm

647
00:32:51,000 --> 00:32:54,360
Speaker 2: not sure they can maintain that. But it's easy. Their

648
00:32:54,440 --> 00:32:56,440
Speaker 2: style actually makes sense in the Big Ten because of

649
00:32:56,480 --> 00:32:58,520
Speaker 2: the lack of shooting. But once you get out of

650
00:32:58,560 --> 00:33:00,640
Speaker 2: the Big ten, might not stuck.

651
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Speaker 1: Can I want to rebut that slightly just because there's

652
00:33:04,360 --> 00:33:06,880
Speaker 1: two wins on their schedule, I'm saying all the same

653
00:33:06,920 --> 00:33:09,880
Speaker 1: things you said calling into these games. I faded Nebraska

654
00:33:09,920 --> 00:33:14,280
Speaker 1: in both these spots. It was at Illinois and at Indiana.

655
00:33:15,240 --> 00:33:18,320
Speaker 1: Escaping wins against those teams who can shoot on the

656
00:33:18,440 --> 00:33:20,840
Speaker 1: road to me at least made me look twice. Does

657
00:33:20,880 --> 00:33:23,240
Speaker 1: that get your attention at all? Or are you still skeptical?

658
00:33:23,600 --> 00:33:25,320
Speaker 2: No, I mean I've upgraded them out of those games,

659
00:33:25,360 --> 00:33:27,520
Speaker 2: but I mean Indiana is not an elite shooting team.

660
00:33:27,680 --> 00:33:30,080
Speaker 2: They can get hot. They also led by sixteen in

661
00:33:30,120 --> 00:33:32,760
Speaker 2: the second half of that game. Yep, and like likeo

662
00:33:32,880 --> 00:33:35,040
Speaker 2: every game, Tucker Devri's got in foul trouble kind of

663
00:33:35,120 --> 00:33:40,880
Speaker 2: changed the game. And then against Illinois, Illinois, I mean

664
00:33:40,880 --> 00:33:43,520
Speaker 2: again not ILLINOI and Indiana are not inside the top

665
00:33:43,640 --> 00:33:47,400
Speaker 2: ninety in three point percentage, Like these aren't elite now

666
00:33:47,360 --> 00:33:52,320
Speaker 2: they're capable and Illinois, I mean they lost. It was

667
00:33:52,320 --> 00:33:55,640
Speaker 2: an impressive win for Nebraska. Nebraska won on the road,

668
00:33:56,000 --> 00:34:00,520
Speaker 2: but you, I mean they had Sanford was unconscious in

669
00:34:00,560 --> 00:34:02,560
Speaker 2: the first half where they build a huge elite. I mean,

670
00:34:02,600 --> 00:34:04,480
Speaker 2: I think you at thirty points in the first half,

671
00:34:05,440 --> 00:34:07,440
Speaker 2: and then they still won at the buzzer on a

672
00:34:07,440 --> 00:34:11,640
Speaker 2: crazy three. So yeah, that gave Nebraska a bit more merit.

673
00:34:11,719 --> 00:34:16,520
Speaker 2: But I still think once and you look this team.

674
00:34:16,520 --> 00:34:18,879
Speaker 2: Even in the out of non conference, they didn't play

675
00:34:18,880 --> 00:34:20,600
Speaker 2: anyone who can shoot the three either. I mean, their

676
00:34:20,600 --> 00:34:23,000
Speaker 2: non conference was a joke. They ended up playing Oklahoma.

677
00:34:24,040 --> 00:34:27,240
Speaker 2: Their best games are Oklahoma, hardest games Oklahoma New Mexico.

678
00:34:28,160 --> 00:34:30,960
Speaker 2: Kansas State is way down, and Creighton is way down.

679
00:34:31,080 --> 00:34:33,000
Speaker 2: Like I mean, their non conference was an absolute joke.

680
00:34:33,080 --> 00:34:35,520
Speaker 2: So yeah, I think it's worth noting those two games,

681
00:34:35,880 --> 00:34:39,440
Speaker 2: which were impressive wins. The team is gritty and they

682
00:34:39,440 --> 00:34:41,960
Speaker 2: do a lot of things really well, but as far

683
00:34:42,000 --> 00:34:44,640
Speaker 2: as winning a national title, I don't see it.

684
00:34:45,040 --> 00:34:46,359
Speaker 3: Kansas State's the best shooting team.

685
00:34:46,360 --> 00:34:47,880
Speaker 4: They played the only team in the top fifty to

686
00:34:47,880 --> 00:34:49,960
Speaker 4: three point percentage and it was a one point game

687
00:34:50,000 --> 00:34:52,160
Speaker 4: against a team that has no chance of making the

688
00:34:52,280 --> 00:34:52,920
Speaker 4: NACAA tournament.

689
00:34:53,320 --> 00:35:00,800
Speaker 2: Yes, that tells you a great point there BYU. And

690
00:35:00,880 --> 00:35:05,600
Speaker 2: that's a trick I'm gonna say now. But you have

691
00:35:05,680 --> 00:35:07,960
Speaker 2: the debans here's the thing, the Devansa factor.

692
00:35:08,600 --> 00:35:10,239
Speaker 3: That's one that's what stops me.

693
00:35:10,800 --> 00:35:13,080
Speaker 2: Right, guy's gonna be a top three pick.

694
00:35:13,960 --> 00:35:16,520
Speaker 5: I think they can. I really they can.

695
00:35:16,680 --> 00:35:21,239
Speaker 1: I mean they've gotten the worst two months possible from

696
00:35:21,320 --> 00:35:24,200
Speaker 1: Moo Davis, like both on and off the court.

697
00:35:24,200 --> 00:35:27,000
Speaker 5: He's just been a distraction, if anything like that.

698
00:35:27,000 --> 00:35:28,600
Speaker 1: Guy's done nothing, and he was one of the more

699
00:35:28,640 --> 00:35:32,879
Speaker 1: marquee transfer ads possible. I think, you know the thing

700
00:35:32,960 --> 00:35:35,160
Speaker 1: that I keep coming back to with de Bonsa and

701
00:35:35,200 --> 00:35:39,000
Speaker 1: with freshmen in general, right, he's asked to do so

702
00:35:39,160 --> 00:35:42,839
Speaker 1: much less on a team with Saunders and Write than

703
00:35:43,280 --> 00:35:46,200
Speaker 1: even Peterson at full strength is at Kansas and obviously

704
00:35:46,280 --> 00:35:49,120
Speaker 1: Boozer at Duke, which to me makes him a little

705
00:35:49,239 --> 00:35:51,879
Speaker 1: less volatile. Like I think, weirdly enough, they could win

706
00:35:52,280 --> 00:35:54,640
Speaker 1: a game where De Bonsa goes cold in March, just

707
00:35:55,000 --> 00:35:57,239
Speaker 1: if Rob Wright is running the show. But they have

708
00:35:57,320 --> 00:35:59,080
Speaker 1: to get some answers off the bench in the next

709
00:35:59,080 --> 00:35:59,560
Speaker 1: two months.

710
00:35:59,600 --> 00:36:02,279
Speaker 2: And that's that's tested in lead. Yeah, that's my biggest question.

711
00:36:02,320 --> 00:36:03,799
Speaker 2: That's one of my biggest questions with you. You never

712
00:36:03,840 --> 00:36:06,200
Speaker 2: won like away from home? Can they win six in

713
00:36:06,200 --> 00:36:11,360
Speaker 2: a row? But the depth and they're so relying on

714
00:36:11,719 --> 00:36:19,040
Speaker 2: like DeVonta Saunders and right, and there's just no depth.

715
00:36:19,040 --> 00:36:20,600
Speaker 2: If one of them gets in foul trouble or has

716
00:36:20,600 --> 00:36:24,400
Speaker 2: an off night against a good team, can they overcome that?

717
00:36:24,520 --> 00:36:26,680
Speaker 2: The same I'd say the same thing for Texas Tech.

718
00:36:26,960 --> 00:36:31,600
Speaker 2: I mean Texas Tech has zero bench at zero. I

719
00:36:31,640 --> 00:36:34,799
Speaker 2: mean go back to that BYU game. Who I mean

720
00:36:34,800 --> 00:36:38,279
Speaker 2: they played? Did anyone even play besides their starting five?

721
00:36:38,480 --> 00:36:42,319
Speaker 2: No one grows played five minutes? That's it. I mean,

722
00:36:42,520 --> 00:36:44,520
Speaker 2: I don't know. Tyree Bryan has been annoying. I mean

723
00:36:44,520 --> 00:36:48,280
Speaker 2: he's not even playing anymore. I guess he played against

724
00:36:48,280 --> 00:36:52,040
Speaker 2: Baylor a bunch. But I mean obviously Tech has, you know,

725
00:36:52,080 --> 00:36:54,920
Speaker 2: with Anderson and Topping and then they're shooting right if

726
00:36:54,960 --> 00:36:57,720
Speaker 2: at well, And I mean they went they started fourteen

727
00:36:57,760 --> 00:36:59,920
Speaker 2: of nineteen from three in the first tef against Baylor.

728
00:37:00,760 --> 00:37:04,440
Speaker 2: So they're high end offense where they can just outscore anybody.

729
00:37:04,480 --> 00:37:09,080
Speaker 2: And it does seem like mccasln is getting that defense

730
00:37:09,080 --> 00:37:11,200
Speaker 2: to come around. That was one of my biggest questions

731
00:37:11,400 --> 00:37:15,560
Speaker 2: with Tech and their high end potential. Jim thoughts on

732
00:37:15,560 --> 00:37:18,279
Speaker 2: BYU and Texas Tech, and they're upside Yeah.

733
00:37:18,520 --> 00:37:22,080
Speaker 4: BYU, they're just two reliant on three guys, and they

734
00:37:22,120 --> 00:37:23,560
Speaker 4: just don't have anything else after that.

735
00:37:23,600 --> 00:37:24,560
Speaker 3: I'm with you guys on the bench.

736
00:37:24,600 --> 00:37:27,400
Speaker 4: Dawson Baker's injury I think has really hurt them.

737
00:37:27,440 --> 00:37:29,120
Speaker 3: Just one more shooter that's not there.

738
00:37:29,400 --> 00:37:31,439
Speaker 4: I'm going to buy Texas Tech is being able to win.

739
00:37:31,840 --> 00:37:34,600
Speaker 4: I know they're really reliant on their top end roster two,

740
00:37:34,719 --> 00:37:38,360
Speaker 4: but Luke Bamgoy and Josiah Mosley have both been practicing

741
00:37:38,400 --> 00:37:40,480
Speaker 4: this week, two guys that were expected to be part

742
00:37:40,480 --> 00:37:44,200
Speaker 4: of their top eight, and Brian played fifteen minutes last game.

743
00:37:44,680 --> 00:37:46,520
Speaker 4: Maybe he's starting to buy in a little more defensively.

744
00:37:46,520 --> 00:37:48,239
Speaker 4: I think he's driven the caasle nuts on that end

745
00:37:48,280 --> 00:37:50,680
Speaker 4: of the court this year. But if they can consolidate

746
00:37:50,719 --> 00:37:53,480
Speaker 4: that top eight, get Moseley, a Villanova transfer who gives

747
00:37:53,520 --> 00:37:56,759
Speaker 4: them versatility. Bamboy is an elite shot blocker. They can

748
00:37:56,800 --> 00:38:00,520
Speaker 4: get that all sewn together. By March, that eight man

749
00:38:00,600 --> 00:38:02,160
Speaker 4: rotation can beat anybody.

750
00:38:03,080 --> 00:38:04,560
Speaker 2: And then as far as the rest are there, is

751
00:38:04,560 --> 00:38:08,399
Speaker 2: there any other team? I mean, the Dandy would be next.

752
00:38:08,480 --> 00:38:12,800
Speaker 2: I don't think that they have the front cour defense.

753
00:38:13,960 --> 00:38:16,719
Speaker 2: Is there any other team that you think like I am?

754
00:38:17,280 --> 00:38:21,719
Speaker 2: Does Bettiaco changed your opinion.

755
00:38:21,400 --> 00:38:21,680
Speaker 5: On like that.

756
00:38:21,760 --> 00:38:24,239
Speaker 2: So I think this is the same Alabama team, Like

757
00:38:24,680 --> 00:38:27,439
Speaker 2: this is my stance all year, like cool, they're fun,

758
00:38:27,560 --> 00:38:29,479
Speaker 2: they can make a run, maybe to the final four,

759
00:38:29,880 --> 00:38:31,799
Speaker 2: but they do not have the defense. And if you

760
00:38:31,800 --> 00:38:34,799
Speaker 2: look at like any you know, all those tired Ken

761
00:38:34,800 --> 00:38:36,879
Speaker 2: palm like you need to have this profile, but it's

762
00:38:37,120 --> 00:38:38,680
Speaker 2: it's true. You can't have a defense at ranks like

763
00:38:38,719 --> 00:38:42,120
Speaker 2: seventieth and win the national title and they just don't

764
00:38:42,120 --> 00:38:45,680
Speaker 2: have that defense, Bettyaco. I mean, the discussion of what's

765
00:38:45,680 --> 00:38:47,799
Speaker 2: going on there will save for another day. But they

766
00:38:47,840 --> 00:38:49,920
Speaker 2: were like number one in rim defense with them a.

767
00:38:50,640 --> 00:38:56,080
Speaker 4: While ago, number three defense and Ken Pump with Bettiaco anchoring.

768
00:38:56,560 --> 00:38:58,479
Speaker 2: Did you think does that change your opinion on them?

769
00:38:58,640 --> 00:39:00,840
Speaker 4: Jim, if you guaranteed me the rest of the season

770
00:39:01,120 --> 00:39:03,040
Speaker 4: he's there, I'd say they can win the title. I

771
00:39:03,040 --> 00:39:04,600
Speaker 4: know he like hasn't played with these guys, he hasn't

772
00:39:04,600 --> 00:39:07,080
Speaker 4: played college in three years, but I think he knows

773
00:39:07,080 --> 00:39:09,960
Speaker 4: the system is vertical, riom spacer offensively, which is kind

774
00:39:10,000 --> 00:39:12,480
Speaker 4: of the only thing they're missing on that end, and

775
00:39:12,520 --> 00:39:15,600
Speaker 4: then fixes their defense. Bama is one and then stuck.

776
00:39:15,600 --> 00:39:18,120
Speaker 4: The other one outside of what we mentioned is Kansas

777
00:39:18,200 --> 00:39:21,839
Speaker 4: with a healthy Peterson I think could in theory get there.

778
00:39:23,040 --> 00:39:28,239
Speaker 2: I agree on Kansas, uh, and yeah, the other thing

779
00:39:28,280 --> 00:39:29,960
Speaker 2: with Bama is they've had a ton of injuries, so

780
00:39:30,760 --> 00:39:33,000
Speaker 2: right if they if they get their full arsenal weapons

781
00:39:33,000 --> 00:39:35,839
Speaker 2: and Bettioko to helps solve that grim defense. Did Greg

782
00:39:35,880 --> 00:39:37,920
Speaker 2: any other names that you want to mention or any

783
00:39:37,920 --> 00:39:38,440
Speaker 2: other thoughts.

784
00:39:38,760 --> 00:39:41,560
Speaker 1: I had Kansas and Alabama both on the like there's

785
00:39:41,600 --> 00:39:44,320
Speaker 1: a world if everything falls right list, and I also

786
00:39:44,440 --> 00:39:47,719
Speaker 1: had arkansaw, but I'm also willing to let you both

787
00:39:47,719 --> 00:39:50,160
Speaker 1: shoot that down and just put me to.

788
00:39:50,120 --> 00:39:56,200
Speaker 5: Bad played away from every game exactly. You just moved

789
00:39:56,200 --> 00:39:57,640
Speaker 5: the turny to Bud Walton.

790
00:39:58,000 --> 00:39:58,879
Speaker 3: They'd win then.

791
00:39:59,320 --> 00:39:59,520
Speaker 2: Yeah.

792
00:39:59,560 --> 00:40:01,840
Speaker 1: I just love a cuff honestly. And I don't know

793
00:40:01,840 --> 00:40:04,319
Speaker 1: what Cal's doing with lineups right now. Malie Thomas can

794
00:40:04,360 --> 00:40:07,240
Speaker 1: obviously get hot and hit seven threes. I think both

795
00:40:07,360 --> 00:40:09,759
Speaker 1: Richmond and Knox had big moments in the tournament a

796
00:40:09,840 --> 00:40:11,880
Speaker 1: year ago. I don't know if I would call them

797
00:40:11,920 --> 00:40:14,200
Speaker 1: bright lights guys or not, but you know, you looked up.

798
00:40:14,239 --> 00:40:15,759
Speaker 1: They were in the second weekend a year ago with

799
00:40:15,800 --> 00:40:18,360
Speaker 1: a roster I think that's significantly less talented than a

800
00:40:18,360 --> 00:40:20,959
Speaker 1: team with a cuff at the point, I still think

801
00:40:21,000 --> 00:40:23,799
Speaker 1: you would run into issues, like all of these teams

802
00:40:23,800 --> 00:40:26,080
Speaker 1: were discussing against the very best of the best. But

803
00:40:26,800 --> 00:40:28,920
Speaker 1: I think they're a minimum of Final four contender, and

804
00:40:29,160 --> 00:40:30,560
Speaker 1: if they got there, I think they have a little

805
00:40:30,600 --> 00:40:32,200
Speaker 1: more upside than the teams we shot down.

806
00:40:34,280 --> 00:40:36,120
Speaker 2: All Right, the last I'll make the last one. I'll

807
00:40:36,120 --> 00:40:38,640
Speaker 2: make a case for I'll make a case for Kentucky.

808
00:40:38,760 --> 00:40:40,600
Speaker 2: It starts with an earthquake.

809
00:40:42,920 --> 00:40:46,360
Speaker 1: So well, it's trees across the Midwest right now stuck.

810
00:40:46,400 --> 00:40:47,560
Speaker 1: That's a good sign for Pope.

811
00:40:48,000 --> 00:40:51,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, I will say. I mean Kentucky, it's their roster's

812
00:40:51,719 --> 00:40:55,000
Speaker 2: put put that. It was money not wisely spent. They've

813
00:40:55,040 --> 00:40:57,120
Speaker 2: also had a ton of injuries. They just had another

814
00:40:57,160 --> 00:41:02,960
Speaker 2: one and Cam Williams broke his foot. I thought he

815
00:41:03,040 --> 00:41:05,120
Speaker 2: was like showing some things. And they're still trying to

816
00:41:05,120 --> 00:41:07,640
Speaker 2: figure out their rotation. I think like their offense has

817
00:41:07,640 --> 00:41:09,719
Speaker 2: figured some things out. It's like keep the ball in

818
00:41:09,880 --> 00:41:16,680
Speaker 2: Aberdeen and always hands. But maybe they get they're not

819
00:41:16,680 --> 00:41:20,640
Speaker 2: gonna they just coming back from seventeen to eighteen and

820
00:41:20,960 --> 00:41:24,439
Speaker 2: needing to shoot forty forty five percent from three. It's

821
00:41:24,480 --> 00:41:26,680
Speaker 2: just not sustainable and they don't have it this year

822
00:41:26,719 --> 00:41:29,080
Speaker 2: and obviously with the injuries haven't helped. If they get

823
00:41:29,120 --> 00:41:30,960
Speaker 2: in and they get hot from three, they could be

824
00:41:31,000 --> 00:41:32,840
Speaker 2: a pesky team that makes the second weekend. That's my

825
00:41:32,880 --> 00:41:37,160
Speaker 2: hope for them. But that's that's the ceiling. But gocats.

826
00:41:37,560 --> 00:41:42,040
Speaker 2: All right, let's get to our futures round table. I'll

827
00:41:42,080 --> 00:41:44,680
Speaker 2: start things off. We already both kind of talked about it.

828
00:41:45,000 --> 00:41:47,280
Speaker 2: I'm going to say this is I'm gonna go Kansas

829
00:41:47,320 --> 00:41:51,120
Speaker 2: Final four ten to one. Still out there. I bought

830
00:41:51,120 --> 00:41:53,040
Speaker 2: this if you follow along the action of our gap

831
00:41:53,920 --> 00:41:56,440
Speaker 2: a couple weeks ago at better price, but I'd go

832
00:41:56,440 --> 00:42:01,000
Speaker 2: down to ten to one. It's just Aaron Peterson can

833
00:42:01,040 --> 00:42:04,040
Speaker 2: carry them there easily. I mean, we haven't even seen

834
00:42:04,080 --> 00:42:08,640
Speaker 2: him like fully healthy for a long stretch. And if

835
00:42:08,680 --> 00:42:11,600
Speaker 2: they get that and self has started to figure some

836
00:42:11,680 --> 00:42:14,080
Speaker 2: things out on the defensive end, and as they kind

837
00:42:14,080 --> 00:42:18,160
Speaker 2: of refine that rotation, if you have Peterson who like

838
00:42:18,239 --> 00:42:22,120
Speaker 2: looks like if he looks like if Kobe went like

839
00:42:22,160 --> 00:42:24,640
Speaker 2: the times, I'm just like watching him. He looks so

840
00:42:24,880 --> 00:42:29,439
Speaker 2: pro ready one of the smoothest players I've ever seen

841
00:42:29,480 --> 00:42:33,640
Speaker 2: play college basketball. Everything looks comes so easy. Hasn't even

842
00:42:33,680 --> 00:42:36,480
Speaker 2: been fully healthy I mean, is he going to continue

843
00:42:36,480 --> 00:42:41,319
Speaker 2: to get even better come March? So yeah, I think

844
00:42:41,360 --> 00:42:43,400
Speaker 2: this year, this is the story. This year is like

845
00:42:43,400 --> 00:42:45,719
Speaker 2: there's gonna be there's some star power, and a lot

846
00:42:45,760 --> 00:42:48,719
Speaker 2: of it is freshman star power that can carry some

847
00:42:48,760 --> 00:42:50,480
Speaker 2: of these teams to the final four. Could they win

848
00:42:50,520 --> 00:42:53,040
Speaker 2: at all? I mean I don't think so. I don't

849
00:42:53,040 --> 00:42:55,000
Speaker 2: think that they have that. You know, if they had

850
00:42:55,000 --> 00:42:59,320
Speaker 2: a run into like say Michigan and then Arizona or something,

851
00:42:59,440 --> 00:43:03,480
Speaker 2: I don't I don't necessarily think that they could win

852
00:43:03,560 --> 00:43:05,520
Speaker 2: those two games, But could they get to the final four,

853
00:43:05,680 --> 00:43:09,960
Speaker 2: especially if the bracket breaks right with Peterson? Absolutely, they

854
00:43:09,960 --> 00:43:12,920
Speaker 2: are going to be battle tested as well, right, I Mean,

855
00:43:13,200 --> 00:43:16,400
Speaker 2: you talk about a team that's going to see a

856
00:43:16,520 --> 00:43:20,200
Speaker 2: bunch of elite teams in February, They've already been They've

857
00:43:20,200 --> 00:43:22,759
Speaker 2: already played some very good teams. I mean, this is

858
00:43:22,760 --> 00:43:28,360
Speaker 2: a team that's played Duke Connecticut, Tennessee, a lot of

859
00:43:28,360 --> 00:43:30,680
Speaker 2: games on neutral courts. But I just already mentioned their

860
00:43:30,680 --> 00:43:35,240
Speaker 2: stretch in February. I mean, you're playing Arizona twice, Iowa State,

861
00:43:35,400 --> 00:43:39,120
Speaker 2: Houston BYU Texas Tech on the road. Like, this team

862
00:43:39,440 --> 00:43:42,239
Speaker 2: will be battle tested and if Peterson gets hot, and

863
00:43:42,280 --> 00:43:45,600
Speaker 2: they get hot and you know, kind of exceed expectations.

864
00:43:45,600 --> 00:43:49,960
Speaker 2: In February, this price will come way down, especially if

865
00:43:49,960 --> 00:43:55,439
Speaker 2: Peterson looks fully healthy. And if they don't, I don't

866
00:43:55,440 --> 00:43:58,799
Speaker 2: think the price is going to crater and they'll still

867
00:43:58,840 --> 00:44:01,759
Speaker 2: have that potential. So I'll make a case for Kansas

868
00:44:01,960 --> 00:44:04,240
Speaker 2: ten to one. We'll save our thoughts for when we vote.

869
00:44:05,280 --> 00:44:07,520
Speaker 2: Greg you kind of hinted at yours with Uba.

870
00:44:07,719 --> 00:44:10,719
Speaker 5: Yeah, we touched on this one as well. Jim hit

871
00:44:10,800 --> 00:44:11,359
Speaker 5: the big thing.

872
00:44:11,520 --> 00:44:13,600
Speaker 1: Just since January first, they're the number one team in

873
00:44:13,600 --> 00:44:14,759
Speaker 1: the country per Torvik.

874
00:44:15,000 --> 00:44:16,560
Speaker 5: That is a super small sample size.

875
00:44:16,600 --> 00:44:18,480
Speaker 1: If you want to put it back a month earlier,

876
00:44:19,040 --> 00:44:23,640
Speaker 1: call it December first, they're fifth in the country behind Houston, Michigan, Arizona,

877
00:44:23,920 --> 00:44:26,120
Speaker 1: and then that passky Nebraska team that can't lose. Like,

878
00:44:26,280 --> 00:44:28,480
Speaker 1: I just think this team's for real and it's trending

879
00:44:28,480 --> 00:44:32,000
Speaker 1: in the right direction. And you know, comparatively, if I'm

880
00:44:32,040 --> 00:44:34,520
Speaker 1: going into the court to make a pitch against yours here,

881
00:44:34,800 --> 00:44:39,120
Speaker 1: I think Kansas is the sexy play that has a

882
00:44:39,120 --> 00:44:41,360
Speaker 1: bunch of red flags you want to ignore because of

883
00:44:41,400 --> 00:44:44,360
Speaker 1: how sexy Darren Peterson is. Like is Bill salv going

884
00:44:44,440 --> 00:44:46,799
Speaker 1: to coach in the NCAA tournament. Is Darren gonna have

885
00:44:47,120 --> 00:44:49,840
Speaker 1: one of three different ailments that he currently has. Is

886
00:44:49,880 --> 00:44:52,160
Speaker 1: Melvin Council going to catch fire or not? There are

887
00:44:52,160 --> 00:44:54,520
Speaker 1: a bunch of different ways I think Kansas's season could

888
00:44:54,560 --> 00:44:57,439
Speaker 1: come to an end. I look at Virginia, they don't

889
00:44:57,600 --> 00:45:00,080
Speaker 1: really have too many weaknesses.

890
00:44:59,560 --> 00:45:00,440
Speaker 5: On the surch here.

891
00:45:00,840 --> 00:45:01,960
Speaker 2: They have a pretty high floor.

892
00:45:02,360 --> 00:45:06,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, they're just really efficient from everywhere. They're pretty good

893
00:45:06,680 --> 00:45:09,480
Speaker 1: on the boards, elite on the offensive boards, top twenty

894
00:45:09,520 --> 00:45:12,040
Speaker 1: in both offensive and defensive efficiency at this point in

895
00:45:12,080 --> 00:45:14,799
Speaker 1: the season, and again, everything is trending up. I think

896
00:45:14,840 --> 00:45:18,239
Speaker 1: Deritter's a legitimate pro and a dude like could be

897
00:45:18,320 --> 00:45:20,080
Speaker 1: the face of a Final four team, and I would

898
00:45:20,120 --> 00:45:22,640
Speaker 1: think that makes sense. I think Malik Thomas is one

899
00:45:22,640 --> 00:45:25,280
Speaker 1: of those like how is he still in school guards

900
00:45:25,320 --> 00:45:27,320
Speaker 1: that you see on the Final four teams all the time.

901
00:45:27,560 --> 00:45:29,279
Speaker 1: I think they've got youth that are going to become

902
00:45:29,280 --> 00:45:32,880
Speaker 1: stars down the line, like Chance Mallory. I just I

903
00:45:32,880 --> 00:45:35,160
Speaker 1: didn't like it at first because it didn't feel right.

904
00:45:35,280 --> 00:45:37,480
Speaker 1: But the more I watched this team, I mean, you

905
00:45:37,520 --> 00:45:39,560
Speaker 1: look at the stretch in this stretch where they're number

906
00:45:39,560 --> 00:45:42,800
Speaker 1: one in the country. It's probably the hardest stretch of

907
00:45:42,880 --> 00:45:45,879
Speaker 1: schedule they're gonna have until the end of February when

908
00:45:45,880 --> 00:45:48,320
Speaker 1: they see Duke. I mean, on the road against Louisville,

909
00:45:48,320 --> 00:45:49,799
Speaker 1: on the road against ENDC. He stayed on the road

910
00:45:49,800 --> 00:45:52,799
Speaker 1: against SMU, and they're number one in the country in

911
00:45:52,840 --> 00:45:55,400
Speaker 1: those games. I am fully in that this team can

912
00:45:55,480 --> 00:45:57,560
Speaker 1: make a run. Thirteen to one is good enough for me.

913
00:45:58,160 --> 00:46:02,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, when I've watched them, it looks everything looks great.

914
00:46:03,400 --> 00:46:05,520
Speaker 2: I I would the old My only pushback is, but

915
00:46:05,680 --> 00:46:12,120
Speaker 2: prior to January, first they played nobody, literally nobody. I

916
00:46:12,120 --> 00:46:14,520
Speaker 2: mean it was they played Texas when Texas was a mess,

917
00:46:14,760 --> 00:46:17,360
Speaker 2: right and like Sean Miller was like I you know,

918
00:46:18,120 --> 00:46:22,200
Speaker 2: was doing Mick cronin things and like uh. And then

919
00:46:22,400 --> 00:46:25,279
Speaker 2: they lost to VA Tech to close out twenty twenty five,

920
00:46:25,320 --> 00:46:31,080
Speaker 2: but they who their Their next best win was I

921
00:46:31,080 --> 00:46:34,600
Speaker 2: don't know, Northwestern on a neutral court. And then since

922
00:46:35,680 --> 00:46:38,160
Speaker 2: you know, in twenty twenty six NC State, I don't,

923
00:46:38,520 --> 00:46:40,600
Speaker 2: I didn't. I didn't look with what shot quality had it,

924
00:46:40,640 --> 00:46:42,000
Speaker 2: But I mean, I'm assuming that was like a ten

925
00:46:42,040 --> 00:46:45,360
Speaker 2: point loss. They NC State could not make an open

926
00:46:45,560 --> 00:46:49,560
Speaker 2: shot in that game. Then they get what Louisville, who's

927
00:46:49,840 --> 00:46:53,320
Speaker 2: banged up in kind of reeling not fully healthy. SMU

928
00:46:53,400 --> 00:46:54,880
Speaker 2: was kind of a coin flip game. I mean that

929
00:46:55,040 --> 00:46:58,200
Speaker 2: it was tied with a minute to go, so I

930
00:46:58,239 --> 00:47:00,919
Speaker 2: could punch some holes in like what they done since

931
00:47:01,000 --> 00:47:03,000
Speaker 2: January first, and they really didn't do anything before them.

932
00:47:03,000 --> 00:47:04,920
Speaker 2: But when you watch them, and then as far as

933
00:47:04,920 --> 00:47:07,799
Speaker 2: a team, like getting just the final four with a

934
00:47:07,800 --> 00:47:10,400
Speaker 2: good coach, and they seemingly do have a very high floor,

935
00:47:10,600 --> 00:47:12,560
Speaker 2: and they're not too reliant on one player, and that

936
00:47:12,640 --> 00:47:16,120
Speaker 2: rim defense is real. That'll go a long way. Jim

937
00:47:16,160 --> 00:47:18,319
Speaker 2: thoughts on UVA and then what's your case?

938
00:47:19,080 --> 00:47:21,839
Speaker 4: Well, I'm very in on Virginia. I love them since

939
00:47:21,840 --> 00:47:23,680
Speaker 4: the preseason a team I was beating the drump for.

940
00:47:23,760 --> 00:47:25,200
Speaker 4: I couldn't decide if I were going to go all

941
00:47:25,200 --> 00:47:27,319
Speaker 4: in on them. Are NC State in the preseason as

942
00:47:27,360 --> 00:47:29,680
Speaker 4: a final four pick, and I made the mistake of

943
00:47:29,719 --> 00:47:32,480
Speaker 4: going with the wild wade. I don't think NC State's bad,

944
00:47:32,520 --> 00:47:34,680
Speaker 4: but it'd look a lot better if I had picked Virginia.

945
00:47:35,200 --> 00:47:37,440
Speaker 4: But they've been awesome away from home, and I think

946
00:47:37,440 --> 00:47:39,479
Speaker 4: that's a huge thing to note with them, like really

947
00:47:39,520 --> 00:47:43,040
Speaker 4: good road wins and the fact that they offensive rebound.

948
00:47:43,040 --> 00:47:44,319
Speaker 3: They interior defend.

949
00:47:44,160 --> 00:47:46,799
Speaker 4: Like that stuff travels, and I think that's that's what

950
00:47:46,840 --> 00:47:49,279
Speaker 4: makes it a very compelling case for them. I'm gonna

951
00:47:49,280 --> 00:47:52,040
Speaker 4: dig a little further down the odds board, and maybe

952
00:47:52,080 --> 00:47:54,560
Speaker 4: a lot further down the odds board. Eighty to one

953
00:47:54,800 --> 00:47:57,280
Speaker 4: to the final four for the Saint Louis Billikins.

954
00:47:57,560 --> 00:47:59,719
Speaker 3: I am. I knew in on the.

955
00:47:59,680 --> 00:48:01,480
Speaker 2: Team was in the dock, and I had a feeling

956
00:48:01,480 --> 00:48:02,200
Speaker 2: you were going to do this.

957
00:48:02,480 --> 00:48:04,840
Speaker 4: I didn't well, you know, I got to keep a secret,

958
00:48:05,239 --> 00:48:07,560
Speaker 4: you know, don't let you know what's going on. But yeah,

959
00:48:07,640 --> 00:48:10,239
Speaker 4: DraftKings still is eighty to one on Slough and I

960
00:48:10,320 --> 00:48:12,480
Speaker 4: know they haven't really played anybody, and part of that's

961
00:48:12,520 --> 00:48:15,000
Speaker 4: because they tried and nobody wanted to because they knew

962
00:48:15,040 --> 00:48:17,400
Speaker 4: how good they were going to be. Josh Shirtz, Robbie

963
00:48:17,400 --> 00:48:20,319
Speaker 4: Ovula's back, but they're inside the top thirty at ken Pum.

964
00:48:20,880 --> 00:48:24,520
Speaker 4: You look back right around this time in twenty twenty three,

965
00:48:24,880 --> 00:48:27,240
Speaker 4: a little old team called Florida Atlantic was sitting thirtieth

966
00:48:27,320 --> 00:48:29,920
Speaker 4: in bart Torvik through this date ends up making the

967
00:48:29,960 --> 00:48:32,560
Speaker 4: final four, where the coach who ends up this national darling.

968
00:48:32,640 --> 00:48:34,320
Speaker 4: Now he's the coach of a number one team in

969
00:48:34,360 --> 00:48:37,200
Speaker 4: the country. I think Josh Shurtz has that kind of upside.

970
00:48:37,560 --> 00:48:40,239
Speaker 4: This team has depth. That's what his Indiana State team

971
00:48:40,280 --> 00:48:42,640
Speaker 4: didn't have at all. It was a five man team

972
00:48:43,000 --> 00:48:45,799
Speaker 4: that could really suffer through some duds every once in

973
00:48:45,800 --> 00:48:48,920
Speaker 4: a while. SLU doesn't have that because they've got bench scorers,

974
00:48:48,960 --> 00:48:53,400
Speaker 4: they've got length, they've got massive lineup interchangeability. They score

975
00:48:53,560 --> 00:48:55,759
Speaker 4: on a ton of like close Tuesday, number one in

976
00:48:55,800 --> 00:48:58,200
Speaker 4: the country an average two point attempt distance because they

977
00:48:58,239 --> 00:48:59,520
Speaker 4: just get layups.

978
00:49:00,040 --> 00:49:02,840
Speaker 3: It talks about getting layups on no dribble, like the

979
00:49:02,880 --> 00:49:05,000
Speaker 3: cut layups, that kind of stuff. Dish driving dish.

980
00:49:05,680 --> 00:49:07,640
Speaker 4: The offense is beautiful, but they're also number three in

981
00:49:07,680 --> 00:49:09,960
Speaker 4: the country in two point percentage defense, and I know

982
00:49:10,040 --> 00:49:12,839
Speaker 4: that's a little bit scheduled driven. They have not put

983
00:49:12,960 --> 00:49:15,000
Speaker 4: a good schedule, but I think the defense is a

984
00:49:15,000 --> 00:49:16,839
Speaker 4: lot better than it gets credit for because people think

985
00:49:16,840 --> 00:49:20,160
Speaker 4: of offense with shirts. I think this team is really

986
00:49:20,200 --> 00:49:22,440
Speaker 4: really good. They're trending to they're an eight seed and

987
00:49:22,440 --> 00:49:24,360
Speaker 4: bracket matrix, and they can get up to the sixth

988
00:49:24,400 --> 00:49:26,480
Speaker 4: line and avoid those one and two seeds in the

989
00:49:26,480 --> 00:49:29,399
Speaker 4: second round. Suddenly, eighty to one is a really really

990
00:49:29,480 --> 00:49:30,399
Speaker 4: juicy price there.

991
00:49:31,480 --> 00:49:33,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, that was that was gonna be my I was

992
00:49:33,840 --> 00:49:36,839
Speaker 2: gonna bring that up. You're playing you know, obviously eighty

993
00:49:36,880 --> 00:49:39,040
Speaker 2: to one, you can do this, but you're playing seed

994
00:49:39,120 --> 00:49:42,480
Speaker 2: roulette because this year you do not want an eight

995
00:49:42,600 --> 00:49:45,360
Speaker 2: or nine seed. We just talked about some of the

996
00:49:45,400 --> 00:49:48,839
Speaker 2: high end talent. I would much rather have a ten than,

997
00:49:50,200 --> 00:49:51,920
Speaker 2: like you want them to not fall in that eighth

998
00:49:51,960 --> 00:49:54,560
Speaker 2: to nine range. But I love the Saint Louis team.

999
00:49:54,600 --> 00:49:59,480
Speaker 2: They are super fun. Looking at the schedule, I'm trying

1000
00:49:59,480 --> 00:50:04,440
Speaker 2: to think like wise, man, I mean just the I mean,

1001
00:50:04,480 --> 00:50:06,640
Speaker 2: I guess it's kind of backloaded. They got Vcu Dayton

1002
00:50:06,680 --> 00:50:11,480
Speaker 2: and George Mason late, so yeah, they could probably they're

1003
00:50:11,520 --> 00:50:14,239
Speaker 2: still I mean, they easily could rattle off five or

1004
00:50:14,320 --> 00:50:16,759
Speaker 2: six more wins and this comes down so timing wise,

1005
00:50:16,800 --> 00:50:19,520
Speaker 2: I think it's fine. All right, let's vote. You're gonna

1006
00:50:19,520 --> 00:50:22,719
Speaker 2: hold off a one if you're voting for Kansas Final four,

1007
00:50:22,840 --> 00:50:26,200
Speaker 2: can't vote for your own, two for Virginia, Final four,

1008
00:50:26,920 --> 00:50:35,640
Speaker 2: three for Saint Louis Final four, three, two one three ways. Wow, Yeah,

1009
00:50:35,880 --> 00:50:41,239
Speaker 2: those whins. That'll be our first edition, a super long

1010
00:50:41,280 --> 00:50:44,680
Speaker 2: shot Final four with the bills rip to the goat

1011
00:50:45,000 --> 00:50:48,719
Speaker 2: in honor of him. Rick Majeris who I loved. Uh

1012
00:50:49,320 --> 00:50:51,760
Speaker 2: get it done for Rick. So I got Saint Louis

1013
00:50:51,800 --> 00:50:55,040
Speaker 2: eighty to one to make the final four. Please good

1014
00:50:55,160 --> 00:50:57,200
Speaker 2: do a little dance night. Avoid the eight nine line,

1015
00:50:57,960 --> 00:51:01,040
Speaker 2: all right, very quickly before we to the weekend, looks

1016
00:51:01,560 --> 00:51:07,440
Speaker 2: Bilo sell high Greg, you're looking to sell Nebraska. I

1017
00:51:07,480 --> 00:51:10,280
Speaker 2: will say this is a tough spot for them going,

1018
00:51:10,520 --> 00:51:14,600
Speaker 2: you know, to the barn. Minnesota has been ben pesky.

1019
00:51:14,840 --> 00:51:16,880
Speaker 2: You know they've they've lost what they've lost the USC

1020
00:51:16,920 --> 00:51:18,960
Speaker 2: and Ohio State and overtime games. Easily could have won

1021
00:51:19,040 --> 00:51:22,720
Speaker 2: Wisconsin at the buzzer. They played Illinois pretty tight before

1022
00:51:22,800 --> 00:51:26,359
Speaker 2: then a pretty you know, a decent stretch. My big

1023
00:51:26,400 --> 00:51:28,480
Speaker 2: problem here is and but the reason I bring up

1024
00:51:28,520 --> 00:51:32,440
Speaker 2: the spot is Nebraska undefeated, Frager injury, and after this

1025
00:51:32,480 --> 00:51:35,279
Speaker 2: Minnesota game on the road noon start like kind of

1026
00:51:35,320 --> 00:51:38,200
Speaker 2: a sleepy game. Right then they go Michigan Illinois the

1027
00:51:38,360 --> 00:51:41,880
Speaker 2: Purdue like are they peaking ahead a bit? My problem

1028
00:51:41,920 --> 00:51:45,319
Speaker 2: is again Minnesota. Now, Minnesota will shoot threes? Can they

1029
00:51:45,320 --> 00:51:47,560
Speaker 2: make them? That's that's gonna be the question here, because

1030
00:51:47,560 --> 00:51:50,560
Speaker 2: that's Nebraska games are three point shooting contests. Minnesota does

1031
00:51:50,600 --> 00:51:55,280
Speaker 2: at least I would say they're a decent enough defense

1032
00:51:56,560 --> 00:51:57,799
Speaker 2: to hang here, but they're gonna have to make some

1033
00:51:57,840 --> 00:52:00,359
Speaker 2: shots that playing Nebraska. But you just look into sell

1034
00:52:00,440 --> 00:52:03,439
Speaker 2: Nebraska overall this. Do you think this is the peak

1035
00:52:03,480 --> 00:52:05,080
Speaker 2: of the market. By the way, they should have covered

1036
00:52:05,160 --> 00:52:08,399
Speaker 2: last night in Washington with a ridiculous cover. They were

1037
00:52:08,400 --> 00:52:10,560
Speaker 2: like down sixteen to like forty seconds ago, and Nebraska

1038
00:52:10,520 --> 00:52:12,759
Speaker 2: they turned it over three times. But you're looking at

1039
00:52:12,760 --> 00:52:13,880
Speaker 2: sell Nebraska, Greg.

1040
00:52:13,760 --> 00:52:16,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe call it resentment because I was on the

1041
00:52:16,040 --> 00:52:18,120
Speaker 1: Huskers minus ten and a half. Thank you for that

1042
00:52:18,239 --> 00:52:22,440
Speaker 1: backdoor ninety second finish, sure, I yeah, I think you

1043
00:52:22,520 --> 00:52:23,440
Speaker 1: laid out the case here.

1044
00:52:23,520 --> 00:52:25,000
Speaker 5: The schedule's heating up in a big way.

1045
00:52:25,080 --> 00:52:27,240
Speaker 1: I think this Minnesota game is a total trap spot,

1046
00:52:27,280 --> 00:52:29,760
Speaker 1: and I'm going to give out Minnesota is my favorite

1047
00:52:29,800 --> 00:52:33,640
Speaker 1: play heading into the weekend here. Also, just on that front,

1048
00:52:34,160 --> 00:52:36,680
Speaker 1: one thing to note here, I think against the Nebraska defense,

1049
00:52:36,680 --> 00:52:39,319
Speaker 1: the way they swarm anything inside, the way they'd make

1050
00:52:39,360 --> 00:52:42,040
Speaker 1: you kick out and scramble and rotate the shooters, I

1051
00:52:42,040 --> 00:52:44,200
Speaker 1: think you've got to have a team that's really high

1052
00:52:44,239 --> 00:52:46,560
Speaker 1: IQ with a great coach that can script stuff in

1053
00:52:46,600 --> 00:52:49,840
Speaker 1: the half court and really an unselfish team capable of

1054
00:52:49,880 --> 00:52:53,279
Speaker 1: high level passing for multiple spots. Minnesota first in the

1055
00:52:53,320 --> 00:52:57,920
Speaker 1: country and assisted percent of their field goals made. That's

1056
00:52:57,920 --> 00:52:59,640
Speaker 1: going to matter, and I think it's a good matchup.

1057
00:52:59,719 --> 00:53:02,480
Speaker 1: So I look at that as a really ominous spot.

1058
00:53:02,520 --> 00:53:05,319
Speaker 1: But you said it at Michigan. Purdue Illinois still coming.

1059
00:53:05,320 --> 00:53:07,000
Speaker 1: They still have to go out west, and they got

1060
00:53:07,000 --> 00:53:08,880
Speaker 1: the bad end of the coin flip where they have

1061
00:53:08,960 --> 00:53:11,640
Speaker 1: to get UCLA on the road and USC who I

1062
00:53:11,640 --> 00:53:13,399
Speaker 1: think is a little pest year. You know, at least

1063
00:53:13,400 --> 00:53:14,840
Speaker 1: you get the free win if you go to Oregon

1064
00:53:14,880 --> 00:53:17,840
Speaker 1: this year. And then Frager, who knows he's in a boot.

1065
00:53:17,880 --> 00:53:19,680
Speaker 1: Is he going to play against Michigan? Is he going

1066
00:53:19,719 --> 00:53:22,000
Speaker 1: to miss a month? I don't really know. He was

1067
00:53:22,040 --> 00:53:24,680
Speaker 1: in tears with Connor a Siegon saying prayers for him.

1068
00:53:24,880 --> 00:53:28,040
Speaker 1: That doesn't feel like he's back anytime soon to me.

1069
00:53:28,560 --> 00:53:30,600
Speaker 1: So as much as I love the Huskers, yeah, I

1070
00:53:30,600 --> 00:53:32,880
Speaker 1: think this could come crashing down in the next two weeks.

1071
00:53:33,160 --> 00:53:35,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're finally going to start playing some teams that

1072
00:53:36,000 --> 00:53:38,440
Speaker 2: can shoot the three, and I doubt that they're going

1073
00:53:38,520 --> 00:53:42,680
Speaker 2: to continue shooting forty percent from three. And then because

1074
00:53:42,719 --> 00:53:46,239
Speaker 2: they don't get offensive rebounds. That would be very problematic.

1075
00:53:47,360 --> 00:53:51,520
Speaker 2: But shout out to basketball for an amazing start. Jim

1076
00:53:51,640 --> 00:53:53,920
Speaker 2: and Bilo. Soe high any teams you want to mention.

1077
00:53:54,800 --> 00:53:55,719
Speaker 3: I want to so high.

1078
00:53:56,200 --> 00:53:58,279
Speaker 4: A couple of these are just related to how they've

1079
00:53:58,320 --> 00:54:01,520
Speaker 4: shot since January first, exl this is way off the radar,

1080
00:54:01,600 --> 00:54:04,000
Speaker 4: but in the CIA, they've covered five in a row,

1081
00:54:04,120 --> 00:54:06,680
Speaker 4: and it's because they're top ten in the country in

1082
00:54:06,719 --> 00:54:09,560
Speaker 4: both three point percentage offense and three point percentage defense,

1083
00:54:10,040 --> 00:54:12,840
Speaker 4: and up to January thirty first, or excuse me, December

1084
00:54:12,880 --> 00:54:15,400
Speaker 4: thirty first, they're very pedestrian in both. Like this is

1085
00:54:15,400 --> 00:54:18,839
Speaker 4: outlier type stuff in a limited small sample, I would

1086
00:54:18,840 --> 00:54:20,840
Speaker 4: be fading the dragons coming up here in the CAAA.

1087
00:54:20,880 --> 00:54:24,160
Speaker 4: It's a pretty parody driven league, and I just I

1088
00:54:24,160 --> 00:54:26,879
Speaker 4: don't I think Drexel has played above their their weights

1089
00:54:26,920 --> 00:54:29,640
Speaker 4: and they're up like one hundred spots in ken Palm

1090
00:54:29,680 --> 00:54:31,960
Speaker 4: in two and a half weeks because of the three

1091
00:54:31,960 --> 00:54:34,239
Speaker 4: point luck, and I would see that coming back down

1092
00:54:34,280 --> 00:54:37,319
Speaker 4: to Earth soon by low kind Of on the opposite end,

1093
00:54:37,400 --> 00:54:40,160
Speaker 4: I can't believe I'm saying this is Auburn. They're number

1094
00:54:40,200 --> 00:54:43,080
Speaker 4: five in the SEC and offense, despite ranking fifteenth and

1095
00:54:43,120 --> 00:54:45,960
Speaker 4: three point percentage shooting twenty six percent, the number six

1096
00:54:46,000 --> 00:54:48,680
Speaker 4: in defense in the SEC despite the dead last rank

1097
00:54:48,719 --> 00:54:52,560
Speaker 4: three point percentage defense. Caveat is that they're playing Florida

1098
00:54:52,600 --> 00:54:54,759
Speaker 4: this weekend, and I think Florida is still a little

1099
00:54:54,840 --> 00:54:57,279
Speaker 4: undervalue two. So I'm not really going to start fad

1100
00:54:57,800 --> 00:55:00,600
Speaker 4: buying law on Auburn yet, but they've had some really

1101
00:55:00,640 --> 00:55:03,320
Speaker 4: close games, some really bad luck late in games. I

1102
00:55:03,360 --> 00:55:05,279
Speaker 4: think this team is pretty undervalue right now because of

1103
00:55:05,320 --> 00:55:07,319
Speaker 4: the shooting splits that they've seen so far. I think

1104
00:55:07,360 --> 00:55:08,680
Speaker 4: the offense is still very legit.

1105
00:55:10,320 --> 00:55:12,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, I could see the Drets will fade, especially they

1106
00:55:12,040 --> 00:55:13,680
Speaker 2: have a stretch coming up at home where they're gonna

1107
00:55:13,640 --> 00:55:16,480
Speaker 2: be favorites. I definitely don't mind fading them as a favorite,

1108
00:55:17,360 --> 00:55:20,640
Speaker 2: and they play so slow. Yeah, home against the Northeastern

1109
00:55:20,640 --> 00:55:22,400
Speaker 2: and Saturday, does that game get played? I don't know.

1110
00:55:23,840 --> 00:55:25,640
Speaker 2: I never know who's going to play for Northeastern, but

1111
00:55:26,080 --> 00:55:28,520
Speaker 2: I definitely can see that starting the Drex will fade there.

1112
00:55:30,000 --> 00:55:31,239
Speaker 2: All right, I'll get into some of mine as we

1113
00:55:31,280 --> 00:55:34,280
Speaker 2: talk weekend bets. So let's get to the weekend rapid fire.

1114
00:55:34,800 --> 00:55:37,840
Speaker 2: You know, usually three to five will give out, just

1115
00:55:37,880 --> 00:55:41,080
Speaker 2: go until we don't have any more left. I'll start

1116
00:55:41,520 --> 00:55:45,279
Speaker 2: my favorite bet of the weekend. Obviously, this is all

1117
00:55:45,280 --> 00:55:48,759
Speaker 2: line dependent, and I'm trying to pick spot games where

1118
00:55:48,800 --> 00:55:51,640
Speaker 2: the spot the spot tax won't be like seven points,

1119
00:55:51,640 --> 00:55:56,000
Speaker 2: which is what it seemingly is. On Saturdays, I'm gonna

1120
00:55:56,040 --> 00:55:59,040
Speaker 2: go with Texas at home against Georgia. I'm not a

1121
00:55:59,040 --> 00:56:01,520
Speaker 2: believer in this Georgia team, in this offense, and there's

1122
00:56:01,560 --> 00:56:05,000
Speaker 2: a number of things I like about this spot and

1123
00:56:05,040 --> 00:56:08,759
Speaker 2: matchup for Texas. Number one, Georgia presses at one of

1124
00:56:08,760 --> 00:56:11,600
Speaker 2: the highest rates in the country. Texas is an elite

1125
00:56:11,640 --> 00:56:14,880
Speaker 2: press offense. I also think that their wings will have

1126
00:56:14,920 --> 00:56:18,160
Speaker 2: an enormous size advantage in isolation and a number of

1127
00:56:18,239 --> 00:56:22,240
Speaker 2: spots against Georgia, who can be very undersized on the perimeter.

1128
00:56:23,760 --> 00:56:26,000
Speaker 2: You hope that Texas gets a better whistle, which they

1129
00:56:26,040 --> 00:56:30,080
Speaker 2: have at home, because this could come down to just

1130
00:56:30,440 --> 00:56:34,279
Speaker 2: foul trouble with the bigs. But I think Texas can

1131
00:56:34,320 --> 00:56:38,440
Speaker 2: dominate the offensive glass. They can mitigate Georgia on the

1132
00:56:38,480 --> 00:56:43,440
Speaker 2: defensive glass I'm sorry, on the offensive board on their

1133
00:56:43,480 --> 00:56:46,160
Speaker 2: side of the floor. So I like this spot, I

1134
00:56:46,280 --> 00:56:49,440
Speaker 2: like the matchup. I think Texas can keep Georgia out

1135
00:56:49,440 --> 00:56:51,080
Speaker 2: of transition. They do a pretty good job in that

1136
00:56:51,160 --> 00:56:55,479
Speaker 2: aspect as well. And Georgia's schedule has been pretty easy

1137
00:56:55,520 --> 00:56:57,480
Speaker 2: to date. I mean what they've played like two or

1138
00:56:57,520 --> 00:57:00,279
Speaker 2: three top thirty teams. Texas has played eight and in

1139
00:57:00,320 --> 00:57:03,680
Speaker 2: those games, they've had a top twenty offense. And you

1140
00:57:03,760 --> 00:57:07,880
Speaker 2: might look at that Kentucky game and say, I was

1141
00:57:09,560 --> 00:57:12,319
Speaker 2: not really that impressed. I mean, Kentucky went thirty one

1142
00:57:12,320 --> 00:57:15,040
Speaker 2: of thirty four from the line. They could not miss

1143
00:57:15,040 --> 00:57:17,320
Speaker 2: a free throw, and this is they dominate Texas as

1144
00:57:17,320 --> 00:57:19,680
Speaker 2: the line. This is a Texas team that gets the

1145
00:57:19,680 --> 00:57:22,000
Speaker 2: line as much as any team in the country. And

1146
00:57:22,120 --> 00:57:24,240
Speaker 2: Kim and Heidi didn't play in the first half and

1147
00:57:24,720 --> 00:57:28,000
Speaker 2: basically was walking around with a sick bag in the

1148
00:57:28,000 --> 00:57:30,080
Speaker 2: second half, and you've played the gate minutes. He literally

1149
00:57:30,120 --> 00:57:33,800
Speaker 2: did nothing. He should be healthier. He's actually number one

1150
00:57:33,840 --> 00:57:36,120
Speaker 2: on the team in adjusted overall efficiency. When he's out

1151
00:57:36,160 --> 00:57:39,760
Speaker 2: there healthy, the spacing for everyone else is so much better.

1152
00:57:40,040 --> 00:57:43,400
Speaker 2: But I think it's a pretty good matchup for Texas. Kim,

1153
00:57:43,760 --> 00:57:47,240
Speaker 2: I would love to get minus one or better. I'm

1154
00:57:47,280 --> 00:57:50,720
Speaker 2: not sure we'll get it, but that's probably my favorite

1155
00:57:50,720 --> 00:57:54,480
Speaker 2: spot in matchup. Of the weekend, Greg, you mentioned Minnesota.

1156
00:57:56,600 --> 00:57:58,760
Speaker 2: Anything else you want to mention or add on the

1157
00:57:58,800 --> 00:57:59,720
Speaker 2: go First, I'll.

1158
00:57:59,640 --> 00:58:02,560
Speaker 1: Jump in with a replacement for Minnesota since I already.

1159
00:58:02,320 --> 00:58:02,960
Speaker 5: Laid that out.

1160
00:58:03,080 --> 00:58:06,200
Speaker 1: I'm actually gonna take a look at Maryland, pending the

1161
00:58:06,280 --> 00:58:09,520
Speaker 1: number against Michigan State, which may be the grossest bed

1162
00:58:09,560 --> 00:58:13,160
Speaker 1: of all time. However, this was a schedule spot that

1163
00:58:13,240 --> 00:58:15,200
Speaker 1: I circled with a lot of these big ten teams

1164
00:58:15,200 --> 00:58:18,040
Speaker 1: from the Midwest last year. When you return from the

1165
00:58:18,080 --> 00:58:21,320
Speaker 1: West coast trip, how are the legs? What is the number?

1166
00:58:21,520 --> 00:58:23,680
Speaker 1: Can you blow teams out? Are you even interested in

1167
00:58:23,720 --> 00:58:26,880
Speaker 1: blowing teams out? I don't know that Michigan State cares

1168
00:58:26,920 --> 00:58:29,360
Speaker 1: about running up the score against a buzz Williams team

1169
00:58:30,360 --> 00:58:32,840
Speaker 1: at home a week before they play Michigan. I just

1170
00:58:32,880 --> 00:58:35,240
Speaker 1: don't think that's going to happen. Some of Michigan State's

1171
00:58:35,240 --> 00:58:40,200
Speaker 1: flattest performances this year have come against their less marquee opponents.

1172
00:58:40,240 --> 00:58:43,520
Speaker 1: They've started very, very slow against teams outside the Kemp

1173
00:58:43,560 --> 00:58:45,920
Speaker 1: on top one hundred pretty much all year, So I

1174
00:58:45,920 --> 00:58:49,600
Speaker 1: would look to Maryland first half. Michigan State has been

1175
00:58:49,640 --> 00:58:52,040
Speaker 1: so good at wearing teams down. But I think even

1176
00:58:52,080 --> 00:58:53,640
Speaker 1: if you get the number. If it's anywhere near the

1177
00:58:53,680 --> 00:58:56,680
Speaker 1: Ken Pop projected spread of twenty eighteen to twenty, I'll

1178
00:58:56,720 --> 00:58:58,600
Speaker 1: probably be on the underdog in that game.

1179
00:58:59,000 --> 00:59:02,120
Speaker 2: Yeah. My My only concern with Maryland games is like

1180
00:59:02,240 --> 00:59:06,840
Speaker 2: if if it's man if quoint doesn't go off, it

1181
00:59:06,880 --> 00:59:10,040
Speaker 2: gets scary quick, like if he has an off game.

1182
00:59:11,280 --> 00:59:13,880
Speaker 2: But I can see that, Jim, what you.

1183
00:59:13,920 --> 00:59:17,080
Speaker 3: Got Start with San Diego State on the road at UNLV.

1184
00:59:17,240 --> 00:59:21,880
Speaker 4: This is kind of a very reactionary to last game,

1185
00:59:21,960 --> 00:59:26,000
Speaker 4: but San Diego State had a heartbreaker, probably arguably undeserved

1186
00:59:26,320 --> 00:59:27,640
Speaker 4: loss at Grand Canyon.

1187
00:59:27,880 --> 00:59:29,360
Speaker 3: Heinnees really messed.

1188
00:59:29,200 --> 00:59:31,040
Speaker 4: Him up on the final call that they lost on

1189
00:59:31,120 --> 00:59:32,880
Speaker 4: two free throws in the final two seconds.

1190
00:59:33,040 --> 00:59:35,520
Speaker 3: Heinie's the referee, Jeffrey Anderson, sorry, call you out.

1191
00:59:36,000 --> 00:59:39,160
Speaker 4: And then UNLV is coming off this insane, incredible win

1192
00:59:39,280 --> 00:59:42,640
Speaker 4: at Utah State, the best team in the conference. San

1193
00:59:42,680 --> 00:59:44,960
Speaker 4: Diego State has been awesome since January, first Top twenty

1194
00:59:44,960 --> 00:59:47,600
Speaker 4: in the country. They're number one in the league in

1195
00:59:47,640 --> 00:59:50,600
Speaker 4: two point percentage of defense. They look like a Dutcher defense.

1196
00:59:50,880 --> 00:59:53,800
Speaker 3: Again. I know Magoon Gwathe might miss this game, he

1197
00:59:53,880 --> 00:59:54,200
Speaker 3: was out.

1198
00:59:54,160 --> 00:59:55,760
Speaker 4: For the Grand Canyon one, but they almost won that

1199
00:59:55,760 --> 00:59:59,560
Speaker 4: game too, against a better opponent. UNLV is as erradic

1200
00:59:59,640 --> 01:00:02,479
Speaker 4: as they come. They will lose to anybody at home.

1201
01:00:02,720 --> 01:00:04,560
Speaker 4: They can play up at times, but I think coming

1202
01:00:04,600 --> 01:00:06,960
Speaker 4: off their big win, I don't expect a second straight

1203
01:00:07,240 --> 01:00:09,600
Speaker 4: strong performance in San Diego. State's gonna be very angry

1204
01:00:09,920 --> 01:00:11,440
Speaker 4: give them the way that game ended. I like the

1205
01:00:11,480 --> 01:00:12,960
Speaker 4: Aztecs on the road in Vegas.

1206
01:00:13,720 --> 01:00:15,760
Speaker 2: I agree, I had this one circled. I'm hoping we

1207
01:00:15,800 --> 01:00:21,240
Speaker 2: can get like a reasonable price here because.

1208
01:00:21,480 --> 01:00:23,600
Speaker 4: Hopefully it comes down to the guathau give me, give

1209
01:00:23,640 --> 01:00:25,040
Speaker 4: me three and a half or something.

1210
01:00:25,080 --> 01:00:28,240
Speaker 2: That's love that because even if you look at UNLV

1211
01:00:28,400 --> 01:00:30,120
Speaker 2: this stretch, it's been their best stretch of the year.

1212
01:00:30,520 --> 01:00:34,840
Speaker 2: They beat Boise State in overtime. Buchanan didn't play for

1213
01:00:35,000 --> 01:00:37,920
Speaker 2: Boise They beat San Jose State. I mean who San

1214
01:00:38,000 --> 01:00:39,800
Speaker 2: Jose State. Their entire teams out every game. I don't

1215
01:00:39,800 --> 01:00:41,440
Speaker 2: even know who played for San Jose State that game.

1216
01:00:42,560 --> 01:00:45,040
Speaker 2: And then they played Utah State that was like a

1217
01:00:45,120 --> 01:00:49,440
Speaker 2: twenty point shot quality loss. Utah State, who's very erratic.

1218
01:00:49,520 --> 01:00:54,520
Speaker 2: By the way, Utah State was seventeen of thirty one

1219
01:00:54,640 --> 01:01:00,280
Speaker 2: from the line and they shot seven of twenty four

1220
01:01:00,360 --> 01:01:03,640
Speaker 2: from three, and UNLV was twenty one of twenty five

1221
01:01:03,680 --> 01:01:06,120
Speaker 2: from the line and shot fifty percent from three. So

1222
01:01:06,960 --> 01:01:08,920
Speaker 2: uh and Utah State is just that you never know

1223
01:01:09,000 --> 01:01:12,320
Speaker 2: what do that that team they confused me. They're very inconsistent.

1224
01:01:12,400 --> 01:01:14,960
Speaker 2: So there's some like caveats here in this stretch that

1225
01:01:16,640 --> 01:01:19,240
Speaker 2: I'm not buying this UNLV team by any stretch. And

1226
01:01:19,280 --> 01:01:20,840
Speaker 2: I think San Diego State can shut them down, So

1227
01:01:21,000 --> 01:01:23,760
Speaker 2: I think that's a good one. I'll get in the

1228
01:01:23,840 --> 01:01:28,080
Speaker 2: weeds here, like let's let's start some ugly ones out

1229
01:01:31,040 --> 01:01:36,280
Speaker 2: Army against Navy. Can I get double digits here? You

1230
01:01:36,400 --> 01:01:40,640
Speaker 2: mentioned you know Drexel, Jim. I mean since December first,

1231
01:01:40,720 --> 01:01:43,600
Speaker 2: teams are shooting twenty five percent from three against Navy

1232
01:01:43,640 --> 01:01:46,880
Speaker 2: and it's at extreme volume. They're three hundred and eighth

1233
01:01:46,920 --> 01:01:49,200
Speaker 2: and three point right, no one can make a three.

1234
01:01:49,440 --> 01:01:51,320
Speaker 2: And by the way, you want to talk about a

1235
01:01:51,360 --> 01:01:56,000
Speaker 2: team that hasn't played a soul, it's Navy. Uh So,

1236
01:01:56,200 --> 01:01:59,080
Speaker 2: and like the way that they play, like the Army

1237
01:01:59,120 --> 01:02:02,200
Speaker 2: doesn't have any side, but neither does Navy. This this

1238
01:02:02,320 --> 01:02:04,880
Speaker 2: game will bele's just like ugly and what does Army do?

1239
01:02:05,040 --> 01:02:06,840
Speaker 2: They just shoot threes, that's the only thing they can do,

1240
01:02:06,880 --> 01:02:09,240
Speaker 2: and they get defensive rebounds. So they're gonna shoot a

1241
01:02:09,240 --> 01:02:11,240
Speaker 2: ton of threes here. Obviously they could just be stone cold,

1242
01:02:11,280 --> 01:02:14,440
Speaker 2: but teams aren't gonna shoot twenty five percent from three

1243
01:02:14,440 --> 01:02:16,560
Speaker 2: against Navy forever. They give up a ton of threes.

1244
01:02:18,520 --> 01:02:21,160
Speaker 2: Army's gonna just pack it in here, get defensive rebounds,

1245
01:02:21,200 --> 01:02:23,320
Speaker 2: and I think they can make enough threes to keep

1246
01:02:23,320 --> 01:02:25,360
Speaker 2: this close. This will be like the Air Force Navy game.

1247
01:02:25,800 --> 01:02:31,560
Speaker 2: I think Navy wins by by five or so. So yeah,

1248
01:02:31,640 --> 01:02:34,600
Speaker 2: I like Army. I mean this is a Army. By

1249
01:02:34,600 --> 01:02:36,360
Speaker 2: the way, every game, every one of their games goes overtime,

1250
01:02:36,360 --> 01:02:38,200
Speaker 2: which would obviously be goodf for catching double digits. Here

1251
01:02:38,200 --> 01:02:40,640
Speaker 2: they played six overtime games, I think already. But Navy.

1252
01:02:41,160 --> 01:02:46,400
Speaker 2: Here's here's who they've they've beat this year. Presbyterian, Washington,

1253
01:02:46,520 --> 01:02:50,280
Speaker 2: Maryland like Washington of Maryland, n J I T. Gardner, Webb,

1254
01:02:50,400 --> 01:02:57,360
Speaker 2: Delaware State, Air Force, Coppin, Rosemont, Boston, holy Cross, Bucknell, Lafayette,

1255
01:02:57,440 --> 01:03:02,280
Speaker 2: Lehigh and double overtime and holy Cross. Their best win

1256
01:03:02,880 --> 01:03:07,520
Speaker 2: is Presbyterian, no joke, that's their best win on the year,

1257
01:03:07,640 --> 01:03:10,720
Speaker 2: this first game of the year. Presbyterian. So I think

1258
01:03:10,880 --> 01:03:12,600
Speaker 2: Army can keep this within double digits.

1259
01:03:13,000 --> 01:03:16,280
Speaker 5: Greg, that's gross hearing that out out.

1260
01:03:16,320 --> 01:03:19,920
Speaker 2: That's cross, Baby, get excited, it's gross.

1261
01:03:20,600 --> 01:03:22,760
Speaker 5: I'm gonna go sexy again.

1262
01:03:22,800 --> 01:03:27,160
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go BYU. This is the BYU Utah round two. Crazy,

1263
01:03:27,240 --> 01:03:29,240
Speaker 1: these two teams are playing within two weeks of each other.

1264
01:03:29,600 --> 01:03:31,440
Speaker 1: It was a thriller on the road the first time

1265
01:03:31,560 --> 01:03:34,200
Speaker 1: came out of the wire. But this is Kevin Young

1266
01:03:34,320 --> 01:03:37,160
Speaker 1: with a week to prep, pissed off off of that

1267
01:03:37,400 --> 01:03:40,400
Speaker 1: terrible second half against Texas Tech. I just think this

1268
01:03:40,640 --> 01:03:42,960
Speaker 1: is a come out and run a team out of

1269
01:03:43,000 --> 01:03:45,400
Speaker 1: a gym spot for Devonsa and Saunders.

1270
01:03:45,480 --> 01:03:49,240
Speaker 5: I don't really think there's much to this beyond that.

1271
01:03:49,440 --> 01:03:53,120
Speaker 1: I think back to that first game against Utah. You know,

1272
01:03:53,360 --> 01:03:56,560
Speaker 1: just some confusing rim defense stuff. Terrence Brown popped off.

1273
01:03:56,680 --> 01:03:59,320
Speaker 1: But I expect EYU to be much better.

1274
01:03:59,560 --> 01:04:01,720
Speaker 5: This is a spot for that. So just give me

1275
01:04:01,760 --> 01:04:02,920
Speaker 5: the schedule spot bounce back.

1276
01:04:03,320 --> 01:04:05,520
Speaker 2: This is the schedule. I've had the scheduling spot circled

1277
01:04:05,520 --> 01:04:07,400
Speaker 2: on Arizona. Hopefully it's not a deadline, doesn't come out

1278
01:04:07,440 --> 01:04:11,800
Speaker 2: like b YU minus four. So but I've had this guy.

1279
01:04:11,840 --> 01:04:14,320
Speaker 2: I mean, you you look at Arizona, you assume they're

1280
01:04:14,320 --> 01:04:17,680
Speaker 2: gonna blow out West Virginia, but Arizona was at TCU

1281
01:04:18,080 --> 01:04:21,160
Speaker 2: right then they come home for Arizona State war, go

1282
01:04:21,440 --> 01:04:24,919
Speaker 2: to ut UCF across the country ends up being quite

1283
01:04:24,960 --> 01:04:27,360
Speaker 2: a war. Come back, play a physical SINCI team. I

1284
01:04:27,400 --> 01:04:29,920
Speaker 2: mean that was a close game up until ten minutes

1285
01:04:29,960 --> 01:04:32,760
Speaker 2: to go. Then you know you're gonna play a physical

1286
01:04:32,800 --> 01:04:35,400
Speaker 2: West Virginia game. And then forty eight hours after that stretch,

1287
01:04:35,440 --> 01:04:39,040
Speaker 2: turn around and go play in altitude. So that this

1288
01:04:39,240 --> 01:04:43,040
Speaker 2: is the scheduling spot for an undefeated Arizona team BYU

1289
01:04:43,200 --> 01:04:47,440
Speaker 2: team is date. Now, Arizona did win in Provo last year.

1290
01:04:47,480 --> 01:04:48,960
Speaker 2: This game is on Monday night, by the way, and

1291
01:04:49,000 --> 01:04:52,160
Speaker 2: then Yu returned the favor in Tucson. But yeah, as

1292
01:04:52,200 --> 01:04:54,280
Speaker 2: long as we don't get a ridiculous spot tax I

1293
01:04:54,440 --> 01:04:57,440
Speaker 2: agree with you on the Cougars, Jim, what else you got.

1294
01:04:58,000 --> 01:04:59,920
Speaker 3: I'm gonna stay in the rocky mountains here.

1295
01:05:00,320 --> 01:05:04,120
Speaker 4: Colorado hosting UCF is another one where UCF's going across

1296
01:05:04,200 --> 01:05:04,640
Speaker 4: the country.

1297
01:05:05,760 --> 01:05:07,720
Speaker 3: I have a hard time seeing them super dial.

1298
01:05:07,760 --> 01:05:09,320
Speaker 4: I mean, they were at Iowa State in the middle

1299
01:05:09,320 --> 01:05:11,800
Speaker 4: of the week and they're coming off playing Arizona Iowa State.

1300
01:05:11,920 --> 01:05:14,240
Speaker 4: So hey, the competition level goes down, but you go

1301
01:05:14,320 --> 01:05:17,240
Speaker 4: to elevation a team something they're really not used to,

1302
01:05:17,840 --> 01:05:20,919
Speaker 4: and Colorado has been actually pretty feisty, like they really

1303
01:05:21,040 --> 01:05:23,920
Speaker 4: almost beat Texas Tech. At home they played with Kansas

1304
01:05:23,960 --> 01:05:26,880
Speaker 4: for forty minutes and on the road Cincinnati West Virginia,

1305
01:05:26,960 --> 01:05:29,680
Speaker 4: two tough teams they were battling in both of those.

1306
01:05:29,840 --> 01:05:31,480
Speaker 4: I think they've got a nice home court. It's a

1307
01:05:31,520 --> 01:05:34,280
Speaker 4: young team that's improving. They play a couple of freshmen

1308
01:05:34,320 --> 01:05:36,800
Speaker 4: that have been really good this year as Hey John,

1309
01:05:38,440 --> 01:05:41,800
Speaker 4: He's awesome and mckayley, the other freshman, is rock solid,

1310
01:05:41,840 --> 01:05:44,680
Speaker 4: and the paint too. So I'm buying Colorado finally getting

1311
01:05:44,720 --> 01:05:47,520
Speaker 4: it done after four straight losses, and I think UCF

1312
01:05:47,680 --> 01:05:50,920
Speaker 4: is a team I'm generally fading also as they get

1313
01:05:50,960 --> 01:05:52,960
Speaker 4: into the tougher parts of Big twelve play and going

1314
01:05:53,000 --> 01:05:56,000
Speaker 4: to elevation randomly is one of those spots.

1315
01:05:56,880 --> 01:05:58,560
Speaker 2: Greag, you got anything left before? I read a lot

1316
01:05:58,600 --> 01:05:59,200
Speaker 2: some the ugly ones.

1317
01:06:00,240 --> 01:06:04,400
Speaker 1: More I'm going Florida here against Auburn on Saturday, just

1318
01:06:04,760 --> 01:06:09,080
Speaker 1: solely off of the remembrance of what happened to Auburn

1319
01:06:09,160 --> 01:06:12,520
Speaker 1: when they saw similar front courts to Florida's. I mean

1320
01:06:12,600 --> 01:06:15,960
Speaker 1: Michigan thirty point win, Arizona twenty nine point win. Now

1321
01:06:16,000 --> 01:06:19,240
Speaker 1: obviously Michigan Arizona or Michigan Arizona. But I just think

1322
01:06:19,480 --> 01:06:21,960
Speaker 1: that's a weakness of this Auburn team. I hate their

1323
01:06:22,000 --> 01:06:24,880
Speaker 1: answers inside. I think it's a personnel issue and I

1324
01:06:24,960 --> 01:06:27,080
Speaker 1: think this gets ugly with a Florida team that's rolling

1325
01:06:27,160 --> 01:06:29,360
Speaker 1: right now, here's.

1326
01:06:29,200 --> 01:06:33,520
Speaker 2: Some I'll thout some more ugly ones. Loyl of Chicago.

1327
01:06:33,720 --> 01:06:37,040
Speaker 2: Is this the bottom? I mean they might get, They're

1328
01:06:37,040 --> 01:06:40,919
Speaker 2: getting healthier, they could get. I think Dotson will be back.

1329
01:06:41,360 --> 01:06:44,160
Speaker 2: They got a couple guys back last game because they

1330
01:06:44,200 --> 01:06:46,080
Speaker 2: did playing basically with like out a point guard, and

1331
01:06:46,160 --> 01:06:50,280
Speaker 2: I mean it's the rotation has gotten pretty bleak.

1332
01:06:50,680 --> 01:06:53,560
Speaker 4: But this can recommend yeah, first half with them because

1333
01:06:53,560 --> 01:06:54,760
Speaker 4: their last second.

1334
01:06:54,360 --> 01:06:55,960
Speaker 2: Half in the second they can lose about the second

1335
01:06:55,960 --> 01:06:56,720
Speaker 2: half of fifty.

1336
01:06:57,200 --> 01:06:57,400
Speaker 3: Yep.

1337
01:06:59,800 --> 01:07:04,400
Speaker 2: So you know they're playing a Ducne team that's you know,

1338
01:07:04,680 --> 01:07:07,360
Speaker 2: they're coming off of a game against Saint Louis. This

1339
01:07:07,520 --> 01:07:09,440
Speaker 2: is a sleepy spot. They were right there with Saint

1340
01:07:09,480 --> 01:07:11,880
Speaker 2: Louis at the end. But I think, I mean, is

1341
01:07:11,920 --> 01:07:13,560
Speaker 2: this this has to be close to the bottom of

1342
01:07:13,600 --> 01:07:16,480
Speaker 2: the middle of Chicagoy they were. They started the season

1343
01:07:16,640 --> 01:07:19,640
Speaker 2: ninety ninth on Kempong. They are now outside the top

1344
01:07:19,720 --> 01:07:23,600
Speaker 2: three hundred, And is this a this might be a

1345
01:07:23,640 --> 01:07:25,480
Speaker 2: problem with Drew Valentine. I mean he and hearded that

1346
01:07:25,600 --> 01:07:29,000
Speaker 2: Moser team in twenty two and they finished top thirty.

1347
01:07:29,560 --> 01:07:32,280
Speaker 2: You look at twenty twenty three, they started fifty ninth,

1348
01:07:32,560 --> 01:07:37,760
Speaker 2: They dropped at one point to two hundred and seventieth.

1349
01:07:38,640 --> 01:07:42,800
Speaker 2: Twenty twenty four started seventy fourth. At one point they

1350
01:07:42,880 --> 01:07:47,280
Speaker 2: dropped to like one forty one point fifty, and last

1351
01:07:47,400 --> 01:07:50,520
Speaker 2: year they started seventy eighth. You know, they dropped outside

1352
01:07:50,600 --> 01:07:52,920
Speaker 2: the top one fifty. Now he has been good against

1353
01:07:52,960 --> 01:07:54,960
Speaker 2: the spread and conference play, and that's usually so this

1354
01:07:55,040 --> 01:07:57,560
Speaker 2: team like for whatever reason now this year a lot

1355
01:07:57,560 --> 01:07:58,960
Speaker 2: of it is injuries, but they bought them out and

1356
01:07:59,000 --> 01:08:01,920
Speaker 2: then kind of start to rise. So I might be

1357
01:08:02,000 --> 01:08:04,880
Speaker 2: looking to buy loyal with Chicago here, Jim, what else

1358
01:08:04,880 --> 01:08:06,480
Speaker 2: you gotta lap one?

1359
01:08:06,520 --> 01:08:08,720
Speaker 4: I liked with the I mentioned the schedule changes, and

1360
01:08:08,960 --> 01:08:10,800
Speaker 4: for the record, I want to shout out Rocko Miller

1361
01:08:10,960 --> 01:08:13,760
Speaker 4: on Twitter. He's got a comprehensive list of all of

1362
01:08:13,800 --> 01:08:16,599
Speaker 4: the weekend schedule changes due to weather. So if anybody's

1363
01:08:16,640 --> 01:08:18,880
Speaker 4: curious about it, get to Roco's Twitter. He's got a

1364
01:08:18,920 --> 01:08:22,040
Speaker 4: massive list and he's constantly updating it. But Belmont is

1365
01:08:22,120 --> 01:08:25,000
Speaker 4: hosting Illinois State. This game is moving from Sunday at

1366
01:08:25,160 --> 01:08:28,080
Speaker 4: three to Saturday at noon, and I think that's an

1367
01:08:28,160 --> 01:08:30,080
Speaker 4: advantage for the home team. As I mentioned at the top,

1368
01:08:30,800 --> 01:08:34,120
Speaker 4: Illinois States off two big wins, including midweek against Northern Iowa.

1369
01:08:34,680 --> 01:08:36,800
Speaker 4: But Belmont's the best team in this league and for

1370
01:08:36,920 --> 01:08:38,960
Speaker 4: giving me kind of a short home spread four or five.

1371
01:08:39,479 --> 01:08:42,599
Speaker 4: Belmont's number one and two point percentage offense and defense

1372
01:08:42,800 --> 01:08:44,160
Speaker 4: in league play in Missouri Valley.

1373
01:08:44,200 --> 01:08:45,480
Speaker 3: I think that's pretty sustainable.

1374
01:08:45,680 --> 01:08:48,080
Speaker 4: They're owed a little defensive regression in terms of three

1375
01:08:48,160 --> 01:08:50,920
Speaker 4: point percentage, so I like that. And they might get

1376
01:08:51,000 --> 01:08:53,880
Speaker 4: Nick McClain back. He's kind of like game to game,

1377
01:08:54,040 --> 01:08:56,120
Speaker 4: day to day, every single game they're starting point guard.

1378
01:08:56,520 --> 01:08:58,400
Speaker 4: They've been good without him, but if he's back in there,

1379
01:08:58,439 --> 01:09:01,280
Speaker 4: this team is kind of a juggernaut offensively. So I'm

1380
01:09:01,320 --> 01:09:03,880
Speaker 4: liking the Bruins there with that adjusted schedule against Illinois

1381
01:09:03,880 --> 01:09:04,880
Speaker 4: State Saturday.

1382
01:09:06,080 --> 01:09:08,000
Speaker 2: Staying the value, I might look at Mary State on

1383
01:09:08,080 --> 01:09:11,920
Speaker 2: the road at Northern Iowa. Speaking of aggression, I mean No, No,

1384
01:09:11,960 --> 01:09:13,800
Speaker 2: one can make a three against Northern Iowa. Marry State

1385
01:09:13,840 --> 01:09:16,439
Speaker 2: can certainly do that coming off of loss. Northern Iowa

1386
01:09:16,520 --> 01:09:20,000
Speaker 2: not fully healthy. I don't like their offense now, I

1387
01:09:20,080 --> 01:09:22,960
Speaker 2: mean they have lost. They have lost five straight. Like

1388
01:09:23,160 --> 01:09:26,639
Speaker 2: it's spot wise, it's not great, but I just don't

1389
01:09:26,680 --> 01:09:28,639
Speaker 2: think that they can put up enough offense to keep

1390
01:09:28,720 --> 01:09:32,479
Speaker 2: up with Mary. So I might look at the racers

1391
01:09:32,520 --> 01:09:33,559
Speaker 2: there and any thoughts there. Jim.

1392
01:09:34,200 --> 01:09:36,400
Speaker 4: No, No, Tristan Smith for Northern Iowa, they've been kind

1393
01:09:36,439 --> 01:09:39,439
Speaker 4: of hopeless. He is like the trigger man in the paint.

1394
01:09:39,600 --> 01:09:42,840
Speaker 4: Athleticism play through him, and he's missed the last five

1395
01:09:42,920 --> 01:09:46,160
Speaker 4: and they've gotten You know, I haven't been overly competitive

1396
01:09:46,240 --> 01:09:46,880
Speaker 4: in any of the five.

1397
01:09:47,760 --> 01:09:50,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, only other ones I have that. I'll mention Jim,

1398
01:09:50,760 --> 01:09:55,920
Speaker 2: and I'll get what you have left. Let's see, is

1399
01:09:55,960 --> 01:09:59,760
Speaker 2: there anything I missed? Purdue? I don't know what kind

1400
01:09:59,800 --> 01:10:01,320
Speaker 2: of we're going to get. Did you like you?

1401
01:10:02,640 --> 01:10:04,080
Speaker 4: That was the onely the ones I had written down

1402
01:10:04,240 --> 01:10:07,160
Speaker 4: I talked to me Jim. The risk is what Greg mentioned,

1403
01:10:07,439 --> 01:10:09,160
Speaker 4: the team coming back from the West coast in the

1404
01:10:09,200 --> 01:10:11,519
Speaker 4: Big ten. But they're coming awful loss, so I think

1405
01:10:11,560 --> 01:10:14,759
Speaker 4: you get a fairly locked in Purdue team and Illinois

1406
01:10:14,800 --> 01:10:17,360
Speaker 4: without Kyle and Boswell, I think that really hurts against

1407
01:10:17,479 --> 01:10:20,360
Speaker 4: Braden Smith. Like Illinois wants to play drop coverage with

1408
01:10:20,760 --> 01:10:23,439
Speaker 4: Boswell chasing around ball screens and staying in the grill

1409
01:10:23,560 --> 01:10:25,800
Speaker 4: Smith and he's not going to be there. It's probably

1410
01:10:25,800 --> 01:10:28,360
Speaker 4: going to fall on Woggler to do that, who's been brilliant,

1411
01:10:28,439 --> 01:10:31,479
Speaker 4: especially offensively, But that's adding a really big task to

1412
01:10:31,560 --> 01:10:32,680
Speaker 4: his defensive assignment if.

1413
01:10:32,600 --> 01:10:33,200
Speaker 3: He has to do that.

1414
01:10:34,120 --> 01:10:36,080
Speaker 4: So you get Purdue by low. They've won five to

1415
01:10:36,080 --> 01:10:37,840
Speaker 4: the last six against Illinois. I know a lot of

1416
01:10:37,840 --> 01:10:40,639
Speaker 4: those involved Zach Edie, so that's you know, maybe take

1417
01:10:40,680 --> 01:10:44,559
Speaker 4: that for what it's worth, but I think short price there.

1418
01:10:45,240 --> 01:10:47,840
Speaker 4: Maybe it's more like four or five because of Boswell

1419
01:10:48,280 --> 01:10:50,000
Speaker 4: and Trey Cofflin. Wren is kind of on a milk

1420
01:10:50,040 --> 01:10:50,640
Speaker 4: carton right now.

1421
01:10:50,760 --> 01:10:52,360
Speaker 3: But I still like Purdue there.

1422
01:10:52,680 --> 01:10:56,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's a good matchup for Purdue's offense. Now,

1423
01:10:56,160 --> 01:10:58,200
Speaker 2: Illinois defense is a little different than last year, and

1424
01:10:58,200 --> 01:10:59,640
Speaker 2: they have a little more upside because of it, Like

1425
01:10:59,680 --> 01:11:04,880
Speaker 2: they're not just adds purely strict drop as usual. But

1426
01:11:04,960 --> 01:11:06,600
Speaker 2: I do think they missed Boswell here, and it's a

1427
01:11:06,600 --> 01:11:09,080
Speaker 2: good matchup for the Purdue offense. And if you look,

1428
01:11:09,120 --> 01:11:13,280
Speaker 2: I mean, Illinois has been impressive. They since the I

1429
01:11:13,320 --> 01:11:17,240
Speaker 2: mean since they lost to Nebraska, they've beat Missouri, Southern

1430
01:11:17,320 --> 01:11:22,080
Speaker 2: Penn State, Rutgers, Iowa with the flu, Northwestern Minnesota, and Maryland.

1431
01:11:22,720 --> 01:11:26,000
Speaker 2: So and now they don't have Boswell, I think you

1432
01:11:26,120 --> 01:11:28,559
Speaker 2: get a focused, perdue effort at home last.

1433
01:11:28,400 --> 01:11:30,200
Speaker 5: One on to that one real quick.

1434
01:11:30,400 --> 01:11:32,600
Speaker 1: So I like the over in this game, and I

1435
01:11:32,720 --> 01:11:34,720
Speaker 1: totally agree with your guys to scout on Purdue. But

1436
01:11:34,840 --> 01:11:37,439
Speaker 1: a couple of interesting things going on with Illinois totals.

1437
01:11:37,479 --> 01:11:41,520
Speaker 1: They've gone like thirteen of seventeen unders. They're playing dramatically

1438
01:11:41,640 --> 01:11:45,559
Speaker 1: slower than they have in Brad Underwood's entire tenure there. However,

1439
01:11:45,680 --> 01:11:48,320
Speaker 1: I was watching the entirety of Illinois Maryland to see

1440
01:11:48,360 --> 01:11:52,360
Speaker 1: what they look like without Kylon. They were faster because

1441
01:11:52,479 --> 01:11:55,960
Speaker 1: Andreistyakovich just gets the ball and goes and they let

1442
01:11:56,080 --> 01:11:57,880
Speaker 1: him go. And they're gonna let him go more than

1443
01:11:57,880 --> 01:12:01,240
Speaker 1: they normally let him go in this game because Fletcher

1444
01:12:01,320 --> 01:12:03,560
Speaker 1: Lawyer and Brayden Smith are going to spend time and

1445
01:12:03,640 --> 01:12:06,040
Speaker 1: Andres Troyakovic and they're gonna try and get those guys

1446
01:12:06,080 --> 01:12:08,599
Speaker 1: in foul trouble, and obviously if Braydon picks up.

1447
01:12:08,560 --> 01:12:10,840
Speaker 5: Too, this bet is cooked if you're on the over.

1448
01:12:11,000 --> 01:12:13,760
Speaker 1: But I just think in general and half court situations,

1449
01:12:13,840 --> 01:12:16,920
Speaker 1: we just saw UCLA torch Purdue with this for forty minutes.

1450
01:12:17,280 --> 01:12:19,559
Speaker 1: Tommy Visage pick and pops are going to be wide

1451
01:12:19,600 --> 01:12:21,599
Speaker 1: open in this game against the Purdue front court.

1452
01:12:21,600 --> 01:12:24,040
Speaker 5: They're too slow on the flip side. You guys nailed it.

1453
01:12:24,120 --> 01:12:27,599
Speaker 1: They don't have Kylon to chase around screens and play drop.

1454
01:12:27,960 --> 01:12:30,280
Speaker 1: I think both teams are really going to struggle to

1455
01:12:30,320 --> 01:12:33,080
Speaker 1: find answers defensively in this game, mixed with a little

1456
01:12:33,120 --> 01:12:35,320
Speaker 1: bit faster of a tempo from the Illinois side.

1457
01:12:35,439 --> 01:12:36,000
Speaker 5: Give me the over.

1458
01:12:37,040 --> 01:12:39,120
Speaker 3: Five to the last six have gone over between these two.

1459
01:12:39,240 --> 01:12:40,000
Speaker 3: Would also add that.

1460
01:12:42,400 --> 01:12:43,840
Speaker 2: The other ones. I want to make a case for

1461
01:12:43,920 --> 01:12:46,760
Speaker 2: Kansas State, but their whole team is hurt, like can

1462
01:12:46,840 --> 01:12:52,559
Speaker 2: Haggarty score forty basically? And I think UCI. I think

1463
01:12:52,600 --> 01:12:57,720
Speaker 2: Hermione gets their revenge on my Tritons. We'll see how

1464
01:12:57,760 --> 01:12:59,880
Speaker 2: the games go tonight, but I don't think the try

1465
01:13:00,080 --> 01:13:04,120
Speaker 2: matchup as well as they did last year. Any other

1466
01:13:04,200 --> 01:13:07,400
Speaker 2: ones that at San Francisco, can I potentially interest you

1467
01:13:07,479 --> 01:13:11,920
Speaker 2: in San Francisco against Gonzaga. I don't know Ike, I

1468
01:13:12,400 --> 01:13:14,760
Speaker 2: don't know if he's gonna play, but Kenzaga's kind of

1469
01:13:14,800 --> 01:13:16,760
Speaker 2: turned in maybe the unders the look, but I think

1470
01:13:16,800 --> 01:13:20,920
Speaker 2: if the under hits, then that helps San Francisco catching

1471
01:13:20,920 --> 01:13:23,120
Speaker 2: a big number. But San Francis, if they're not looking

1472
01:13:23,160 --> 01:13:25,240
Speaker 2: to score at the rim, which you're not going to

1473
01:13:25,280 --> 01:13:27,639
Speaker 2: do against Gonzaga, Kenzaga's kind of turned into an under

1474
01:13:27,720 --> 01:13:30,320
Speaker 2: team that has like a higher defensive ceiling and lower

1475
01:13:30,320 --> 01:13:35,840
Speaker 2: offense ceiling without Huff and Ike, and you have Girl

1476
01:13:35,880 --> 01:13:37,360
Speaker 2: of Sin, who I think is a good coach. He's

1477
01:13:37,720 --> 01:13:40,080
Speaker 2: fifteen and three against the spread with six plus days

1478
01:13:40,120 --> 01:13:43,840
Speaker 2: of prep, got an extended prep here. Can they hit

1479
01:13:43,960 --> 01:13:47,920
Speaker 2: enough shots to stay within a big number? I think

1480
01:13:47,960 --> 01:13:51,599
Speaker 2: so it's not the worst matchup, but I mean it's

1481
01:13:51,600 --> 01:13:55,840
Speaker 2: scary fading Gonzaga student sections back not the kettle. But uh,

1482
01:13:56,600 --> 01:14:00,360
Speaker 2: those are my last looks. Any final thoughts or any

1483
01:14:00,360 --> 01:14:01,080
Speaker 2: thoughts on any of those.

1484
01:14:02,040 --> 01:14:03,439
Speaker 3: I just had Wisconsin on Sunday.

1485
01:14:03,479 --> 01:14:05,519
Speaker 4: They're up by one thousand on Penn State right now

1486
01:14:05,640 --> 01:14:09,439
Speaker 4: as we record this, but hosting usc USC is kind

1487
01:14:09,479 --> 01:14:11,880
Speaker 4: of figuring it out right now. They just added Elijah

1488
01:14:11,920 --> 01:14:15,560
Speaker 4: Arenas back in the lineup, and he was terrible Northwestern.

1489
01:14:16,000 --> 01:14:18,320
Speaker 4: And there they're trying to integrate cam Woods, who they

1490
01:14:18,439 --> 01:14:21,120
Speaker 4: added in the mid season. Baker Massari filed out in

1491
01:14:21,160 --> 01:14:23,559
Speaker 4: thirteen minutes and Muscleman was like about ready to rip

1492
01:14:23,600 --> 01:14:25,480
Speaker 4: his head off, which I think was the most predictable

1493
01:14:25,920 --> 01:14:27,439
Speaker 4: player coach feud of the season.

1494
01:14:28,000 --> 01:14:29,240
Speaker 3: And Wisconsin has been really good.

1495
01:14:29,080 --> 01:14:31,439
Speaker 4: At the col Center against solid competition, and you've got

1496
01:14:31,520 --> 01:14:33,960
Speaker 4: the West Coast team coming two time zones over into

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Speaker 4: a snowstorm frigid weekend. I think USC can't get out

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Speaker 4: of there fast enough. I like Wisconsin minus. It's minus

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Speaker 4: five at can Palm. If it's like seven, I'd still late.

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Speaker 2: All right. That'll do it for us Favorite Bets by

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Speaker 2: the way episodes, this is the first episode we wanted

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Speaker 2: to go lay the land. Episodes generally be like forty

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Speaker 2: five to fifty minutes. This one first one a little longer.

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Speaker 2: We will spend more time on the weekend looks than

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Speaker 2: we will high level, but there's also like flow snow.

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Speaker 2: It was more uncertainty with this weekend weekend's car But

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Speaker 2: favorite Bets of the Weekend Wi A Wes just wrap

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Speaker 2: up with that obviously line dependent, but Greg, you like Minnesota,

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna go with Texas. Jim, what would be your

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Speaker 2: favorite look? Line dependent?

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Speaker 3: San Diego State? I think they smash you.

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Speaker 2: It'll be I would agree. All right. That'll do it

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Speaker 2: for this episode of the Big Bets on Campus podcast.

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Speaker 2: Thanks to Jim and Greg for joining me. Thanks to

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Speaker 2: our producer David on the back end. Most spoortly, thanks

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Speaker 2: to all of you for joining us. Can't wait to

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Speaker 2: go on this ride with you guys and everyone listening

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Speaker 2: through the end of the tournament. We guys three minute.

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Speaker 2: We will be back early week. We'll also have our

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Speaker 2: mid week episode. We'll be back with a live show

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Speaker 2: starting next Saturday and every Saturday through the end of

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Speaker 2: the dance. Make sure you tune in their ten thirty

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Speaker 2: am Eastern. We'll catch you next Thursday night. We'll add

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Speaker 2: another future in preview the weekend card. Good luck on

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Speaker 2: all of your wages this weekend. We'll catch o later. Cheers.

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