1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:03,800 Speaker 1: My next guest is a proud HBCU grad. She's earned 2 00:00:03,800 --> 00:00:08,080 Speaker 1: the title Wealth Pioneer. She's the founder of the Wealth Factory. 3 00:00:08,160 --> 00:00:11,280 Speaker 1: At the Wealth Factory, their mission is to reduce poverty 4 00:00:11,360 --> 00:00:16,720 Speaker 1: by by providing equal access to quality, easy to understand 5 00:00:16,760 --> 00:00:22,040 Speaker 1: financial literacy across the world. Please working the money making conversations, 6 00:00:22,640 --> 00:00:28,320 Speaker 1: Angel Rich, Hey, hey, hey, thanks for having me today. Well, well, 7 00:00:28,400 --> 00:00:29,840 Speaker 1: thank you for getting on the call of day. And 8 00:00:29,840 --> 00:00:35,800 Speaker 1: first of all, where yet in this early daytime hour. Yes, 9 00:00:36,320 --> 00:00:39,920 Speaker 1: I'm in the beautiful capital of Washington, d C. My 10 00:00:40,600 --> 00:00:44,199 Speaker 1: home city around fourth generation, so always happy to be 11 00:00:44,280 --> 00:00:46,880 Speaker 1: back into the city. Just got back from New York 12 00:00:46,960 --> 00:00:49,959 Speaker 1: last night. Okay, good, So what's this? What's a typical day? 13 00:00:49,960 --> 00:00:52,279 Speaker 1: Because I wanted want of the people understand who you are. 14 00:00:52,280 --> 00:00:54,760 Speaker 1: We're gonna go through the story of two breaks, and uh, 15 00:00:54,800 --> 00:00:57,720 Speaker 1: you know, I'm fascinated by My degree is in mathematics, 16 00:00:57,720 --> 00:00:59,880 Speaker 1: so you know, you, you know, what you're doing is 17 00:01:00,040 --> 00:01:03,640 Speaker 1: way beyond what I'm doing now because I got into scriptwriting, 18 00:01:03,720 --> 00:01:05,960 Speaker 1: I got in the sitcom, I got into producing town, 19 00:01:06,160 --> 00:01:09,720 Speaker 1: so I left all my algorithm life behind other than 20 00:01:09,880 --> 00:01:13,160 Speaker 1: just counting money. Okay, and you stayed in that lane 21 00:01:13,160 --> 00:01:15,640 Speaker 1: and you and you blossomed in that lane. So explain 22 00:01:15,720 --> 00:01:20,440 Speaker 1: to everybody what exactly you do. Yes. So, our company, 23 00:01:20,560 --> 00:01:27,120 Speaker 1: Wealthy Life designs financial literacy education technology games. We walk 24 00:01:27,200 --> 00:01:30,840 Speaker 1: people from birth to retirement through twelve interactive modules to 25 00:01:31,040 --> 00:01:35,680 Speaker 1: exceed the personal finance common Core standards. We also use 26 00:01:35,800 --> 00:01:40,560 Speaker 1: these games to be able to collect and disseminate financial information. Right. 27 00:01:41,600 --> 00:01:44,399 Speaker 1: The first game that we have is called Credit Stactors. 28 00:01:45,080 --> 00:01:48,440 Speaker 1: It's similar to Candy Crush, except for swapping around candy 29 00:01:49,320 --> 00:01:52,320 Speaker 1: around credit type, pay y off your debts, achieve a 30 00:01:52,400 --> 00:01:54,960 Speaker 1: hot core score, and learn from the multiple choice question. 31 00:01:56,280 --> 00:02:00,120 Speaker 1: Now that's now what what with that being said, as 32 00:02:00,120 --> 00:02:03,080 Speaker 1: you named a very popular game, and like you said, 33 00:02:03,360 --> 00:02:07,160 Speaker 1: what is the what is the reaction to you're trying 34 00:02:07,200 --> 00:02:09,480 Speaker 1: to educate because it's education, right that you're trying to 35 00:02:10,320 --> 00:02:12,960 Speaker 1: push here. Let people know how to control their money, 36 00:02:13,000 --> 00:02:16,320 Speaker 1: how to grow their money, how to stay I guess 37 00:02:16,360 --> 00:02:20,880 Speaker 1: I want to say financially stable. Correct. Yeah, So it's 38 00:02:20,919 --> 00:02:23,359 Speaker 1: been doing very well. We were able to scale to 39 00:02:23,440 --> 00:02:26,520 Speaker 1: over two hundred thousand downloads during our first ten days. 40 00:02:27,000 --> 00:02:30,519 Speaker 1: We now have over four hundred thousand downloads. It's the 41 00:02:30,840 --> 00:02:34,760 Speaker 1: number one education app is fourteen countries. It's top five 42 00:02:34,840 --> 00:02:37,799 Speaker 1: and forty countries, and it's been named the best financial 43 00:02:37,800 --> 00:02:40,239 Speaker 1: literacy product in the country by the White House Department 44 00:02:40,320 --> 00:02:43,679 Speaker 1: of Education Multitake and we're happy to be a member 45 00:02:43,720 --> 00:02:46,120 Speaker 1: of the Top fifty Apps department as well with Google 46 00:02:46,200 --> 00:02:48,760 Speaker 1: if they have identified it as one of the top 47 00:02:49,000 --> 00:02:51,160 Speaker 1: apps in the world for the past three years. Now 48 00:02:51,200 --> 00:02:54,600 Speaker 1: that now that's all amazing. Now Here a lot of 49 00:02:54,639 --> 00:02:57,560 Speaker 1: people get on more show talk a boy dropping apps, 50 00:02:57,919 --> 00:02:59,760 Speaker 1: trying to get apps out there, trying to get in 51 00:02:59,800 --> 00:03:03,760 Speaker 1: from How does one or through relationships or your reputation, 52 00:03:04,080 --> 00:03:07,800 Speaker 1: how does one drop an app get the do you 53 00:03:07,880 --> 00:03:13,080 Speaker 1: promoted through social media? How does that happen? Angel? Well, 54 00:03:13,120 --> 00:03:16,000 Speaker 1: you know, honestly, we didn't ask any of that. I was, 55 00:03:16,320 --> 00:03:18,919 Speaker 1: you know, I'm still a regular person. But at the time, no, 56 00:03:19,040 --> 00:03:20,400 Speaker 1: you know, I know, you know, you don't stop that 57 00:03:20,639 --> 00:03:24,200 Speaker 1: regular person the angel A Angel, You're not a regular person. 58 00:03:24,480 --> 00:03:26,880 Speaker 1: No you're not. I see what you're not gonna do 59 00:03:26,919 --> 00:03:29,280 Speaker 1: is come on money made conversation and act like I 60 00:03:29,360 --> 00:03:37,080 Speaker 1: talk corregular people. I was a regular person. I'm dropped 61 00:03:37,600 --> 00:03:43,680 Speaker 1: and I sat back in my um in my office 62 00:03:44,080 --> 00:03:47,080 Speaker 1: and as myself, how was we going to be able 63 00:03:47,120 --> 00:03:51,640 Speaker 1: to scale this without any funding. And so you know, 64 00:03:51,760 --> 00:03:55,400 Speaker 1: I kind of put the mathematical statistician head on and 65 00:03:55,440 --> 00:03:58,760 Speaker 1: we derived an algorithm. UM. So we were ros engineer 66 00:03:58,960 --> 00:04:02,480 Speaker 1: Facebook and Gram and Google, and we came up with 67 00:04:02,520 --> 00:04:07,720 Speaker 1: our own algorithm for user acquisition of the ads and 68 00:04:07,760 --> 00:04:12,000 Speaker 1: we did something in UM historic and groundbreaking. So our 69 00:04:12,040 --> 00:04:16,360 Speaker 1: algorithm actually now outperforms Google by seven point five times 70 00:04:16,880 --> 00:04:21,000 Speaker 1: and Facebook by twelve points five times. There's no systems 71 00:04:21,040 --> 00:04:25,000 Speaker 1: that can advertise to me that can attract users better 72 00:04:25,080 --> 00:04:28,359 Speaker 1: than what we're already doing. And we actually had Google 73 00:04:28,440 --> 00:04:31,080 Speaker 1: call and tell us this and confirmed this. We we 74 00:04:31,160 --> 00:04:34,240 Speaker 1: knew we were doing something amazing. But when Google called 75 00:04:34,279 --> 00:04:36,960 Speaker 1: and told us that they've never seen anything like it, UM, 76 00:04:37,040 --> 00:04:39,680 Speaker 1: we really knew we were owning something. So we've actually 77 00:04:39,720 --> 00:04:42,320 Speaker 1: kind of flashed that out into an algorithm on its 78 00:04:42,360 --> 00:04:45,560 Speaker 1: own that we call rich CPI, and we're working with 79 00:04:45,640 --> 00:04:48,200 Speaker 1: other companies to now help them be able to scale 80 00:04:48,200 --> 00:04:50,559 Speaker 1: their products. Now you need to be working with mcnow. 81 00:04:50,880 --> 00:04:55,000 Speaker 1: But now, how did rash come get in? The Angel? 82 00:04:55,120 --> 00:04:58,320 Speaker 1: Rich business? Stuff? Very serious because I I was sitting 83 00:04:58,320 --> 00:05:00,200 Speaker 1: with my staff this morning talking about algorith of them, 84 00:05:00,200 --> 00:05:02,919 Speaker 1: there are special people that that's what they do because 85 00:05:03,200 --> 00:05:06,720 Speaker 1: they understand this new form of marketing, this new form 86 00:05:06,760 --> 00:05:09,000 Speaker 1: of branding, this new form of being able to target 87 00:05:09,000 --> 00:05:12,280 Speaker 1: the audience that you're that you're communicating with. How does 88 00:05:12,320 --> 00:05:15,040 Speaker 1: an individual or I guess, I guess you couldn't say, 89 00:05:15,040 --> 00:05:17,160 Speaker 1: I'm an individual on a company. We'll be able to 90 00:05:17,200 --> 00:05:19,560 Speaker 1: take my brand and walking into the front door to 91 00:05:19,560 --> 00:05:21,520 Speaker 1: sit down and have a meeting with you or your team. 92 00:05:21,839 --> 00:05:25,159 Speaker 1: How does that work? Yes, so you would email us 93 00:05:25,279 --> 00:05:27,560 Speaker 1: at info at get welcome right there down y'all right 94 00:05:27,600 --> 00:05:31,000 Speaker 1: there down there, write that down there, and I'm gonna say, 95 00:05:31,279 --> 00:05:35,560 Speaker 1: if uh info at UM to this info at get 96 00:05:35,640 --> 00:05:40,599 Speaker 1: welcome life dot com and um, it's very important to 97 00:05:40,680 --> 00:05:45,160 Speaker 1: email us. A lot of people try to DM, linked in, Facebook, message, 98 00:05:45,320 --> 00:05:48,440 Speaker 1: text me, all different types of things, but I really 99 00:05:48,480 --> 00:05:51,400 Speaker 1: only take you seriously if you email me and so 100 00:05:51,720 --> 00:05:55,479 Speaker 1: UM on them is a great way to to get 101 00:05:55,560 --> 00:05:58,560 Speaker 1: to me. You know your LinkedIn and I say your LinkedIn, 102 00:05:58,800 --> 00:06:01,240 Speaker 1: went to LinkedIn and read about I'm on LinkedIn too, 103 00:06:01,320 --> 00:06:04,640 Speaker 1: by the way, Yeah, so that that is a great 104 00:06:04,640 --> 00:06:07,279 Speaker 1: way to get to me. But the most sufficient way 105 00:06:07,400 --> 00:06:10,640 Speaker 1: of getting to the entire team and everyone, it's info 106 00:06:10,760 --> 00:06:14,760 Speaker 1: at get walson life dot com. Now when that happens, 107 00:06:14,760 --> 00:06:16,280 Speaker 1: so much is going to contact me back and we're 108 00:06:16,279 --> 00:06:18,200 Speaker 1: gonna set up a meeting with a team member or 109 00:06:18,640 --> 00:06:22,800 Speaker 1: we elevated to talk to just you. How does this work? Yeah, 110 00:06:22,920 --> 00:06:26,400 Speaker 1: so it depends on the size of of your of 111 00:06:26,440 --> 00:06:29,960 Speaker 1: your deal um is right now, we definitely are trying 112 00:06:30,000 --> 00:06:33,080 Speaker 1: to look for higher level of clients. It's a T 113 00:06:33,200 --> 00:06:35,640 Speaker 1: and T or Johnson and Jonathan falls. Obviously, I'm going 114 00:06:35,680 --> 00:06:41,279 Speaker 1: to get on the phoney rash Yeah, I love talking 115 00:06:41,320 --> 00:06:42,920 Speaker 1: to a go I'm gonna just tell you what you 116 00:06:43,040 --> 00:06:47,320 Speaker 1: what you had with my time, Rashan Johnson and call 117 00:06:48,880 --> 00:06:53,280 Speaker 1: no no, Rashan McDonald coole, Uh, put him on hold, 118 00:06:53,360 --> 00:06:55,200 Speaker 1: tell him I love him, but we'll be right back 119 00:06:55,240 --> 00:06:57,159 Speaker 1: with him. Okay, with a T n T. Come on, 120 00:06:57,200 --> 00:07:00,640 Speaker 1: let's talk now, because that's really that's really what it's 121 00:07:00,640 --> 00:07:04,080 Speaker 1: all about. But but because you've discovered something and I 122 00:07:04,360 --> 00:07:06,440 Speaker 1: don't want to, I don't want to blow past this 123 00:07:06,520 --> 00:07:10,520 Speaker 1: whole concept of of what you guys created, you know, 124 00:07:10,560 --> 00:07:13,600 Speaker 1: with this algorithm, I'm assuming that it was a team 125 00:07:13,680 --> 00:07:16,160 Speaker 1: of you or what's it you and a friend or 126 00:07:16,320 --> 00:07:18,800 Speaker 1: how did that whole concept come about? Because when I 127 00:07:18,800 --> 00:07:20,440 Speaker 1: when I sit down and I and I and I 128 00:07:20,480 --> 00:07:23,520 Speaker 1: think about those things because with my mathematic background, there's 129 00:07:23,520 --> 00:07:26,000 Speaker 1: a certain logic that comes to comes to about the 130 00:07:26,040 --> 00:07:29,520 Speaker 1: way I think. How does one go about what your 131 00:07:29,600 --> 00:07:32,440 Speaker 1: team or uh or you felt it. There's no different 132 00:07:32,560 --> 00:07:35,200 Speaker 1: Steve Jobs sitting down or Bill Gates and down. There's 133 00:07:35,200 --> 00:07:37,360 Speaker 1: are visionary people. I have to say, you're a visionary 134 00:07:37,360 --> 00:07:40,120 Speaker 1: person because you come up with something that even Google 135 00:07:40,160 --> 00:07:45,600 Speaker 1: has called about. So how does that start? Angel? Okay, 136 00:07:45,640 --> 00:07:49,880 Speaker 1: so I'll answer that question in reverse. Um, do you 137 00:07:49,920 --> 00:07:54,560 Speaker 1: have three pieces of intellectual property sort of wrapped into 138 00:07:54,600 --> 00:07:58,080 Speaker 1: the game? Okay? Um, the first piece is the user 139 00:07:58,120 --> 00:08:01,840 Speaker 1: acquisition algorithms which speak to your UM. I did that 140 00:08:01,960 --> 00:08:04,280 Speaker 1: solely by myself, and I've never showed it to a 141 00:08:04,400 --> 00:08:07,160 Speaker 1: never so even my co founder has never seen it. 142 00:08:07,560 --> 00:08:11,040 Speaker 1: Like the McDonald's secret sauce. Right exactly, it's like the 143 00:08:11,080 --> 00:08:15,600 Speaker 1: Coca cola recipe. That's that's it, unless somebody want to 144 00:08:15,640 --> 00:08:18,600 Speaker 1: come along and bout Coca cola. Right now, you're not 145 00:08:18,640 --> 00:08:25,760 Speaker 1: seeing the algorithm, now you go, girl, exactly. Uh, we 146 00:08:25,880 --> 00:08:30,360 Speaker 1: have an algorithm that actually helps people to systematically pay 147 00:08:30,360 --> 00:08:33,520 Speaker 1: off their debt and raise their credit score. Um, We're 148 00:08:33,520 --> 00:08:36,439 Speaker 1: gonna release that in the next version of the game, 149 00:08:36,800 --> 00:08:39,960 Speaker 1: where we're gonna be rounding up people change to pay 150 00:08:39,960 --> 00:08:43,200 Speaker 1: off their debt. Uh that with that on their credit 151 00:08:43,240 --> 00:08:47,200 Speaker 1: report and systematically increase their credit score. Now that's that's 152 00:08:47,200 --> 00:08:50,000 Speaker 1: something that's coming out now, right, Yeah, that's something that's 153 00:08:50,000 --> 00:08:53,080 Speaker 1: coming out next. And then start well, but let's let's 154 00:08:53,080 --> 00:08:54,719 Speaker 1: stop right there. Let's stop right there, Diet. This is 155 00:08:54,720 --> 00:08:57,600 Speaker 1: about this, this credit score, because that's really big, because 156 00:08:57,600 --> 00:08:59,440 Speaker 1: I want to get to the other thing that credit 157 00:08:59,480 --> 00:09:02,280 Speaker 1: scores was stopped so many people for some reason. Like 158 00:09:02,320 --> 00:09:04,400 Speaker 1: even when I came out of high school many years ago, 159 00:09:04,440 --> 00:09:08,120 Speaker 1: I always knew I needed to maintain my credit. They 160 00:09:08,120 --> 00:09:10,160 Speaker 1: weren't even talking about scores back then. It was just 161 00:09:10,200 --> 00:09:12,839 Speaker 1: like I gotta have good credit, build your credit, get 162 00:09:12,880 --> 00:09:15,839 Speaker 1: one credit card, then you go. Sears was like better 163 00:09:15,840 --> 00:09:18,480 Speaker 1: than American Express when I was young, and then you 164 00:09:18,520 --> 00:09:21,199 Speaker 1: get you know something I had. The Montgomery Awards were 165 00:09:21,240 --> 00:09:23,120 Speaker 1: just closed now, so I was just building my credit. 166 00:09:23,120 --> 00:09:25,360 Speaker 1: I went to got my Sears and then I got 167 00:09:25,400 --> 00:09:27,160 Speaker 1: my Mortgommery ward card, and then I got my j 168 00:09:27,240 --> 00:09:29,720 Speaker 1: C Penning card. Then I got my first Shell gas car, 169 00:09:32,160 --> 00:09:34,000 Speaker 1: got my Shell gas card. You know that that was 170 00:09:34,120 --> 00:09:36,280 Speaker 1: hard cars to get back in the day, you know, 171 00:09:38,720 --> 00:09:40,560 Speaker 1: and and and so and so and so and so. 172 00:09:40,720 --> 00:09:44,280 Speaker 1: Then I finally got my American Expreence Green card, you know. 173 00:09:44,400 --> 00:09:47,480 Speaker 1: And then I was set. And then my sister, My 174 00:09:47,600 --> 00:09:50,880 Speaker 1: sister came to me and said, look, I want to 175 00:09:50,920 --> 00:09:55,480 Speaker 1: borrow your card to go buy uh some Christmas present. 176 00:09:55,600 --> 00:09:58,079 Speaker 1: I said, okay, how much you're gonna spend two hundred 177 00:09:58,120 --> 00:09:59,560 Speaker 1: and fifty dollars. We're about to go to the break. 178 00:09:59,559 --> 00:10:03,040 Speaker 1: I want to the story, and so so Mcgoverny ward. 179 00:10:03,080 --> 00:10:05,360 Speaker 1: I went to Montgomery Awards. This is mcgomery Wards. Its 180 00:10:05,400 --> 00:10:08,080 Speaker 1: closed now, okay. I went to Mortgovery Wards because I 181 00:10:08,120 --> 00:10:10,280 Speaker 1: wanted to buy me a VCR back then VCRs with 182 00:10:10,320 --> 00:10:14,240 Speaker 1: eight hundred dollars. Okay, they were eight harnds. She's laughing, 183 00:10:15,120 --> 00:10:17,800 Speaker 1: she's laughing at me. And so I go on there, 184 00:10:18,000 --> 00:10:19,920 Speaker 1: I got, I got, I got the credit you know. 185 00:10:20,280 --> 00:10:22,280 Speaker 1: And then and then then they said, I put my 186 00:10:22,280 --> 00:10:25,040 Speaker 1: mortgovery Walk card down. She says, excuse me, said, uh, 187 00:10:25,559 --> 00:10:28,480 Speaker 1: you you exceed your limits? Like, huh exceed my limit? 188 00:10:28,800 --> 00:10:31,400 Speaker 1: I said, I said, excuse me, I got heard of 189 00:10:31,400 --> 00:10:33,000 Speaker 1: all the credit line now, you know, not all my 190 00:10:33,000 --> 00:10:35,240 Speaker 1: credit cards are unlimited now, so that's way back there. 191 00:10:35,600 --> 00:10:38,480 Speaker 1: And so she said, no, uh no, somebody's coming here 192 00:10:38,480 --> 00:10:45,520 Speaker 1: and boat like two thousand merchandises. And I went, uh really, 193 00:10:45,880 --> 00:10:47,520 Speaker 1: and this is so we can't even do you and 194 00:10:47,520 --> 00:10:49,440 Speaker 1: that I'm a finishing story in our next break. But 195 00:10:49,600 --> 00:10:52,080 Speaker 1: Angel hanging out, I'm just telling you I am a 196 00:10:52,200 --> 00:10:54,200 Speaker 1: victim of a person who should have had that game 197 00:10:54,240 --> 00:10:56,000 Speaker 1: and I should have been passing out to my relatives 198 00:10:56,000 --> 00:10:57,760 Speaker 1: back into this so they can understand the value of 199 00:10:57,800 --> 00:11:00,439 Speaker 1: good credit. We'll be back with more of my friend. 200 00:11:00,800 --> 00:11:04,000 Speaker 1: She's my friend. She's in Washton in d C. Angel Rich, 201 00:11:08,720 --> 00:11:11,640 Speaker 1: I just Reashan McDonald's. You know, I've been reciting my 202 00:11:11,640 --> 00:11:14,640 Speaker 1: my credit story. How my first bumping my credit and 203 00:11:14,640 --> 00:11:17,800 Speaker 1: I'm on the phone is very talented. Uh proud, HBC, 204 00:11:17,920 --> 00:11:21,520 Speaker 1: you grab Angel Rich. She's she's been a credit with 205 00:11:21,559 --> 00:11:24,079 Speaker 1: the title of a wealth Pioneer. She's the founder of 206 00:11:24,120 --> 00:11:29,240 Speaker 1: the Wealth Factory. Angel is still there, Yes, of course. Okay, 207 00:11:29,280 --> 00:11:30,880 Speaker 1: so let me just wrap up the story real quick 208 00:11:30,880 --> 00:11:32,720 Speaker 1: because I want to get to the more important things 209 00:11:32,720 --> 00:11:36,200 Speaker 1: about how person like me fixes problems. Even though they're 210 00:11:36,320 --> 00:11:38,600 Speaker 1: way back then, they actually happened in the day, especially 211 00:11:38,600 --> 00:11:40,960 Speaker 1: with student loans and all these things where people just 212 00:11:41,000 --> 00:11:43,240 Speaker 1: try to walk away and think that they could really 213 00:11:43,240 --> 00:11:45,800 Speaker 1: live a life with a bad line of credit and 214 00:11:46,000 --> 00:11:49,640 Speaker 1: poor credit scores. And so so I go home and 215 00:11:49,720 --> 00:11:54,040 Speaker 1: my sister she's in bed right, and so um she's sleeping, 216 00:11:54,040 --> 00:11:56,280 Speaker 1: and I go, I woke, I wake up, I said, 217 00:11:56,320 --> 00:11:58,960 Speaker 1: I said, I said, such as such, I can't telling 218 00:11:59,000 --> 00:12:01,600 Speaker 1: that she's she killed me because I got six sisters, 219 00:12:01,600 --> 00:12:05,199 Speaker 1: so you know they all so they they'd be fun 220 00:12:05,240 --> 00:12:07,440 Speaker 1: to figure out who I'm talking about. But the family, 221 00:12:07,720 --> 00:12:10,320 Speaker 1: as I said, I said, what what did you do? 222 00:12:10,520 --> 00:12:13,640 Speaker 1: You told me you're only gonna spend two fifty and 223 00:12:13,720 --> 00:12:15,800 Speaker 1: she went She looked me square and asked her, boy, 224 00:12:15,880 --> 00:12:21,360 Speaker 1: you got money, right, I said, huh, And then I said, no, 225 00:12:21,679 --> 00:12:23,439 Speaker 1: you can't do me like that. The next word on 226 00:12:23,720 --> 00:12:29,240 Speaker 1: math was Mama, Mama, come on, call Mama on me, 227 00:12:29,320 --> 00:12:32,520 Speaker 1: Call Mama on me. So I walked. I walked out 228 00:12:32,520 --> 00:12:35,079 Speaker 1: of there in debt because I was like I had to. 229 00:12:35,679 --> 00:12:38,480 Speaker 1: I had to pay that off. I was not gonna 230 00:12:38,520 --> 00:12:41,120 Speaker 1: walk away from that debt, and I had to pay 231 00:12:41,160 --> 00:12:43,760 Speaker 1: it off. And so the lesson learned is that you 232 00:12:43,840 --> 00:12:46,440 Speaker 1: have to protect your credit. Just like she was talking 233 00:12:46,440 --> 00:12:49,320 Speaker 1: about Hey, don't nobody know about this algorithm but me. 234 00:12:50,000 --> 00:12:53,600 Speaker 1: You don't trust anybody with your valuables or anything, because 235 00:12:53,640 --> 00:12:56,200 Speaker 1: that doesn't mean that they're gonna respond the same way 236 00:12:56,440 --> 00:12:59,240 Speaker 1: if a mistake happens in your life. So, with that 237 00:12:59,320 --> 00:13:03,560 Speaker 1: being said, how does a person like me, I boarded 238 00:13:03,640 --> 00:13:05,559 Speaker 1: it because I paid it off. You got these low 239 00:13:05,640 --> 00:13:07,920 Speaker 1: credit scores, and and you don't know why you got 240 00:13:07,960 --> 00:13:10,320 Speaker 1: the credit score. Now you have this algorithm. Why was 241 00:13:10,360 --> 00:13:13,600 Speaker 1: this so important in your line of thought process? I 242 00:13:13,640 --> 00:13:16,400 Speaker 1: just told you my personal story that you people need 243 00:13:16,400 --> 00:13:19,240 Speaker 1: this service of fixing their credit scores and paying off 244 00:13:19,280 --> 00:13:28,920 Speaker 1: their debt. Well, I think you dred was cute? Hey, No, no, 245 00:13:29,080 --> 00:13:31,280 Speaker 1: you you laughed. No, you laughed at my eight hundred 246 00:13:31,280 --> 00:13:35,400 Speaker 1: dollar VC. Yeah, that was that was That's wild. That's wold. 247 00:13:36,240 --> 00:13:38,520 Speaker 1: Guess that's like Blu Ray back in the day. You know. 248 00:13:38,720 --> 00:13:43,320 Speaker 1: So I understand, um, but I actually had a family 249 00:13:43,360 --> 00:13:46,000 Speaker 1: member leave me a hundred and eighty thousand dollars in 250 00:13:46,080 --> 00:13:51,319 Speaker 1: that and so um, I didn't get the chance to 251 00:13:51,360 --> 00:13:55,880 Speaker 1: participate in any of that money. And I would say 252 00:13:56,679 --> 00:14:00,360 Speaker 1: about eighty of it was for my college education because 253 00:14:00,400 --> 00:14:02,920 Speaker 1: I was told that it was. Hey, but it wasn't 254 00:14:03,600 --> 00:14:06,600 Speaker 1: so about eighty thousand was for college and a hundred 255 00:14:06,640 --> 00:14:13,320 Speaker 1: thousands random household experiences and random things. And so I 256 00:14:13,360 --> 00:14:16,360 Speaker 1: graduated that two years old with a hundred and eighty 257 00:14:16,360 --> 00:14:21,720 Speaker 1: thousand dollars worth of debt. And when I sat back 258 00:14:21,760 --> 00:14:24,000 Speaker 1: and I calculated how long it would take me to 259 00:14:24,040 --> 00:14:26,480 Speaker 1: pay this debt off, I would have been fifty five 260 00:14:26,600 --> 00:14:30,960 Speaker 1: years old. And so I had to figure out. I 261 00:14:31,000 --> 00:14:34,320 Speaker 1: had to figure out how to reverse engineering the credit 262 00:14:34,360 --> 00:14:37,640 Speaker 1: reporting system. I had to figure out an algorithm for 263 00:14:37,800 --> 00:14:41,240 Speaker 1: effectively paying off my debt to be able to raise 264 00:14:41,360 --> 00:14:43,920 Speaker 1: my credit call. All the different components that you've seen 265 00:14:43,920 --> 00:14:47,600 Speaker 1: in the game, I had to figure them out for myself. UM, 266 00:14:47,640 --> 00:14:53,520 Speaker 1: the different connections, UM, the letters, uh, dis using inquiries, UM, 267 00:14:53,560 --> 00:14:56,360 Speaker 1: all of these very different things. Even being able to 268 00:14:56,440 --> 00:15:01,000 Speaker 1: master the seven year period and so a lot of 269 00:15:01,040 --> 00:15:05,360 Speaker 1: people don't realize it's a different um that falls off 270 00:15:05,800 --> 00:15:09,280 Speaker 1: by different time periods per different states. Some states a 271 00:15:09,360 --> 00:15:11,280 Speaker 1: fall off and fibers six years. But you got to 272 00:15:11,280 --> 00:15:14,680 Speaker 1: know your regulation of your state, right and so, uh 273 00:15:15,080 --> 00:15:18,480 Speaker 1: so that's kind of what led me to this direction. 274 00:15:18,560 --> 00:15:21,480 Speaker 1: Wants to ork on this, yeah, this entire credit issue, 275 00:15:21,520 --> 00:15:25,760 Speaker 1: because I want to help avoid UH students and other 276 00:15:25,800 --> 00:15:28,400 Speaker 1: people from from going through this. And that's why the 277 00:15:28,440 --> 00:15:31,600 Speaker 1: next phase of the project focuses on rounding up people 278 00:15:31,800 --> 00:15:34,320 Speaker 1: change to be able to help them pay off their debt. Now, 279 00:15:34,320 --> 00:15:36,080 Speaker 1: I will just tell you this, Angel, I didn't know 280 00:15:36,120 --> 00:15:38,560 Speaker 1: about your debt. I didn't know about that. I know 281 00:15:38,720 --> 00:15:41,800 Speaker 1: my little two and three dollars was really like pennies 282 00:15:42,320 --> 00:15:45,600 Speaker 1: in comparison. So I don't want to offend you because 283 00:15:45,640 --> 00:15:48,280 Speaker 1: there was in nobodio or nowhere. I was just one 284 00:15:48,320 --> 00:15:50,440 Speaker 1: of my stories. I wanted to tell it because my stories. 285 00:15:50,880 --> 00:15:53,200 Speaker 1: But it's still it's deep though, to each your own. 286 00:15:53,360 --> 00:15:56,720 Speaker 1: That's that's still definitely deep. But trust me, brother, you 287 00:15:56,760 --> 00:16:00,760 Speaker 1: don't want that one a d over your head. I 288 00:16:00,840 --> 00:16:07,080 Speaker 1: love it right right right right and and it's building up. 289 00:16:07,120 --> 00:16:09,440 Speaker 1: It's it's really and it tells me you're a very 290 00:16:09,440 --> 00:16:12,000 Speaker 1: confident person because of the fact that you know that 291 00:16:12,080 --> 00:16:15,600 Speaker 1: was a that's a that's a very minus monstrous number 292 00:16:15,600 --> 00:16:17,520 Speaker 1: to throw out there, and then you took it upon 293 00:16:17,560 --> 00:16:21,560 Speaker 1: yourself to be responsible for dealing with it. Because it's amazing. 294 00:16:21,680 --> 00:16:23,200 Speaker 1: I'm just telling everybody when you used to we're here, 295 00:16:23,200 --> 00:16:26,080 Speaker 1: the word co signing or the hook up or I 296 00:16:26,200 --> 00:16:28,120 Speaker 1: take care of you later. I don't care if you're 297 00:16:28,160 --> 00:16:31,600 Speaker 1: loan your family members money. Get a contract, because that's 298 00:16:31,600 --> 00:16:33,360 Speaker 1: how banks do business. That's how I do it. I 299 00:16:33,400 --> 00:16:35,600 Speaker 1: tell my relatives now, I say, you wanna borrow money 300 00:16:35,600 --> 00:16:38,320 Speaker 1: from me. Okay, here's a piece of paper, here's some information. 301 00:16:38,680 --> 00:16:40,320 Speaker 1: I get a lawyer to draw it up and go, 302 00:16:40,480 --> 00:16:42,240 Speaker 1: we're signed it right here. Now. If they don't want 303 00:16:42,280 --> 00:16:44,680 Speaker 1: to do business like that, then they never intended to 304 00:16:44,680 --> 00:16:49,000 Speaker 1: pay you back, friends, family, or whoever. And so what 305 00:16:49,160 --> 00:16:51,520 Speaker 1: you have to learn in business, what I've learned in 306 00:16:51,560 --> 00:16:56,040 Speaker 1: my life is that money, it's important to everybody. It 307 00:16:56,040 --> 00:17:00,120 Speaker 1: should be most important to the person who's distributing it. Now, 308 00:17:00,120 --> 00:17:03,400 Speaker 1: if somebody's coming to you asking you for your money, 309 00:17:03,520 --> 00:17:07,679 Speaker 1: whether there's any fashion that you may not believe it's 310 00:17:07,720 --> 00:17:09,600 Speaker 1: going to return back to you in the time you 311 00:17:09,640 --> 00:17:12,760 Speaker 1: want it, get in it right, get it right. And 312 00:17:12,800 --> 00:17:14,760 Speaker 1: I think that's that's that's one of the bigger things 313 00:17:14,800 --> 00:17:17,119 Speaker 1: that you have to really promote out the correct angel 314 00:17:17,680 --> 00:17:21,040 Speaker 1: getting things right. You're you're absolutely right. And I don't 315 00:17:21,040 --> 00:17:23,120 Speaker 1: want to say too much because people try to listen 316 00:17:23,119 --> 00:17:28,639 Speaker 1: to me and then't revent things. Thinking I'm thinking of 317 00:17:28,640 --> 00:17:31,160 Speaker 1: of of an app that actually will help solve that 318 00:17:31,240 --> 00:17:35,200 Speaker 1: once we are released, the release the next version. There 319 00:17:35,359 --> 00:17:41,080 Speaker 1: there should be something um that helps solve that, please do, 320 00:17:41,240 --> 00:17:45,359 Speaker 1: because they need to be like a quick quick agreement app. Okay, 321 00:17:45,359 --> 00:17:47,880 Speaker 1: you want me to loan your money, press this right here, 322 00:17:47,920 --> 00:17:50,800 Speaker 1: just like try to signature were good because it's going 323 00:17:50,840 --> 00:17:52,919 Speaker 1: on too much out there, you know, because it's not. 324 00:17:53,000 --> 00:17:54,959 Speaker 1: This is like you know, this is like a much 325 00:17:55,040 --> 00:17:57,200 Speaker 1: more localized form of go fund it. Go fund me 326 00:17:57,320 --> 00:18:00,159 Speaker 1: is much more sophisticated over there, you know now of you. 327 00:18:00,280 --> 00:18:02,880 Speaker 1: I've loaned somebody three thousand dollars recently, and I put 328 00:18:03,000 --> 00:18:06,399 Speaker 1: I put in the play pile, do that by such 329 00:18:06,400 --> 00:18:08,600 Speaker 1: and such date. I even gave him a grace period, 330 00:18:09,240 --> 00:18:11,360 Speaker 1: and I was like, it's just not paid by um 331 00:18:11,480 --> 00:18:13,720 Speaker 1: body's grace spirit. Then I get to revolt the money. 332 00:18:13,760 --> 00:18:17,600 Speaker 1: But there's technically nothing that actually allows me to revoke 333 00:18:17,640 --> 00:18:20,680 Speaker 1: the money back. And and there there should be something 334 00:18:20,720 --> 00:18:23,600 Speaker 1: like that that's already in existence. It really should and 335 00:18:23,600 --> 00:18:25,560 Speaker 1: this should be also allowed you to be able to 336 00:18:25,600 --> 00:18:28,439 Speaker 1: affect on you. Hold it here first on this podcast. 337 00:18:28,480 --> 00:18:31,639 Speaker 1: If you see this money made Conversations Men, Angel, you 338 00:18:31,760 --> 00:18:35,200 Speaker 1: know your listeners about listening. Yeah, you know, I love 339 00:18:35,240 --> 00:18:37,159 Speaker 1: talking to you because you almost like a music producer, 340 00:18:37,200 --> 00:18:39,160 Speaker 1: because the music producer would say that, hey, hey, then 341 00:18:39,200 --> 00:18:42,439 Speaker 1: my beats I owned it, and so she's said, like 342 00:18:42,600 --> 00:18:45,520 Speaker 1: I own an intellectual thought. I put it out on 343 00:18:45,600 --> 00:18:50,000 Speaker 1: Money Made Conversation podcast first. Okay, now that's that's my thought. Now, Okay, 344 00:18:50,000 --> 00:18:52,159 Speaker 1: don't nobody want run abound because because people do that. 345 00:18:52,200 --> 00:18:54,919 Speaker 1: I remember when I was managing Steve Harvey and he 346 00:18:55,040 --> 00:18:59,280 Speaker 1: mentioned Steve Harvey Nation on on the air, and I'll 347 00:18:59,280 --> 00:19:01,719 Speaker 1: tell you before we finished that for all broadcast somebody 348 00:19:01,720 --> 00:19:04,960 Speaker 1: that all wanted and when Steve Harvey Nation dot com. Yeah, 349 00:19:05,080 --> 00:19:07,080 Speaker 1: I'm telling you, it happens to me all the time. 350 00:19:07,200 --> 00:19:08,960 Speaker 1: And at first I thought that I was crazy, and 351 00:19:09,000 --> 00:19:12,720 Speaker 1: then my far disteesting this wild stuff, like this wild 352 00:19:12,840 --> 00:19:15,480 Speaker 1: stuff like I came up with leg Day. I said 353 00:19:15,560 --> 00:19:18,160 Speaker 1: to my team, I said, watch this, I'm gonna start 354 00:19:18,200 --> 00:19:21,439 Speaker 1: saying leg Day, mass tag leg Day. I guarantee you 355 00:19:21,480 --> 00:19:24,000 Speaker 1: within too much on catch on And it did. Like, 356 00:19:25,600 --> 00:19:30,200 Speaker 1: but that's a beautiful thing because side But you know, Angel, 357 00:19:30,240 --> 00:19:32,199 Speaker 1: that's good because that means you have a brand that 358 00:19:32,280 --> 00:19:34,600 Speaker 1: people listen to. That's good and bad, you know, because 359 00:19:34,600 --> 00:19:37,680 Speaker 1: They also let you know that you know what you are. 360 00:19:37,720 --> 00:19:41,520 Speaker 1: You are a lane of information, a brand, and that 361 00:19:41,520 --> 00:19:43,879 Speaker 1: that when when they're no different than Apple or no 362 00:19:43,960 --> 00:19:45,920 Speaker 1: different than you know, you have your research and development. 363 00:19:45,920 --> 00:19:47,800 Speaker 1: That's why people are really tight on that type of 364 00:19:47,840 --> 00:19:50,280 Speaker 1: information because they know it just can't walk out the door. 365 00:19:50,440 --> 00:19:53,520 Speaker 1: You know, they cannot just be spoken casually at a 366 00:19:53,560 --> 00:19:57,040 Speaker 1: restaurant because people ere hustle and one of the said, 367 00:19:57,080 --> 00:19:59,560 Speaker 1: angel over there, okay, what you're talking about? They sitting 368 00:19:59,600 --> 00:20:02,280 Speaker 1: next to year at Denny's, you know, listening at the 369 00:20:02,320 --> 00:20:04,800 Speaker 1: booth behind you, you having the conversation. So so it's 370 00:20:04,800 --> 00:20:07,439 Speaker 1: really important that you protect your brand and deal with it. 371 00:20:07,600 --> 00:20:10,040 Speaker 1: With that being said, what is the future of finance? 372 00:20:10,040 --> 00:20:13,080 Speaker 1: Because we were joking around about different things and about you. 373 00:20:13,080 --> 00:20:15,320 Speaker 1: They're not joking about your games because they're important to you. 374 00:20:15,600 --> 00:20:17,480 Speaker 1: And you just breakdown. But here the fourth leg that 375 00:20:17,520 --> 00:20:19,919 Speaker 1: you wanted to talk about because I stopped the score? 376 00:20:20,200 --> 00:20:22,200 Speaker 1: Can you can you expound on that before we wrap 377 00:20:22,240 --> 00:20:26,040 Speaker 1: everything up? Well, first of all, you know a theory 378 00:20:26,080 --> 00:20:27,960 Speaker 1: that I've been toying with and I started to write 379 00:20:27,960 --> 00:20:30,320 Speaker 1: a paper on this this last night. I think we 380 00:20:30,359 --> 00:20:34,520 Speaker 1: need to stop calling it the future of farming the 381 00:20:34,560 --> 00:20:38,400 Speaker 1: present day of money, because I think with us keep 382 00:20:38,400 --> 00:20:42,400 Speaker 1: referring to the future of farming. People keep waiting for 383 00:20:42,440 --> 00:20:45,760 Speaker 1: something to happen in the future, and they're not thinking 384 00:20:45,800 --> 00:20:49,840 Speaker 1: about the present day economy and the present day innovations 385 00:20:49,840 --> 00:20:53,000 Speaker 1: that are happening right now before them. In terms of 386 00:20:53,240 --> 00:20:58,160 Speaker 1: mobile banking, investment options. You got robbin hood, you got acorns, 387 00:20:58,760 --> 00:21:02,480 Speaker 1: you've got different rights to shurance policies, You've got highest 388 00:21:02,560 --> 00:21:06,160 Speaker 1: daily um annuity policies out here. So there's so many 389 00:21:06,200 --> 00:21:10,040 Speaker 1: things that's happening right now, right now, and the receptive 390 00:21:10,240 --> 00:21:13,440 Speaker 1: is coming in the next two years. So I would 391 00:21:13,480 --> 00:21:16,600 Speaker 1: hate for people to keep thinking about the future of 392 00:21:16,680 --> 00:21:20,240 Speaker 1: furmance and then next thing you know, they've they've they've 393 00:21:20,240 --> 00:21:23,840 Speaker 1: held on to the eight hundred credit scores and they 394 00:21:23,880 --> 00:21:26,760 Speaker 1: haven't purchased the different properties that they needed to or 395 00:21:26,800 --> 00:21:29,600 Speaker 1: they had to accept their forum on k up um 396 00:21:29,600 --> 00:21:32,680 Speaker 1: officially to be for this recession that's about to hit. 397 00:21:33,119 --> 00:21:37,159 Speaker 1: So I really think that almost kind of like, you 398 00:21:37,200 --> 00:21:41,240 Speaker 1: know what, what was the show called um the Few 399 00:21:41,320 --> 00:21:49,560 Speaker 1: Touristics show with the robot and um Ah jetsons, So 400 00:21:50,160 --> 00:21:52,399 Speaker 1: back you went older than me. I can't believe you 401 00:21:52,600 --> 00:21:55,080 Speaker 1: I guess I'm throwing out Montgomery Wards and says, you're 402 00:21:55,119 --> 00:21:57,399 Speaker 1: just gonna go back to Jetsons now, you know, you 403 00:21:57,440 --> 00:22:01,720 Speaker 1: need to stop age. I'm so tired of you. You know, 404 00:22:01,880 --> 00:22:04,320 Speaker 1: back in the day that cartoon was supposed to be 405 00:22:04,359 --> 00:22:08,000 Speaker 1: the future of technology in the world. Everything that existed 406 00:22:08,040 --> 00:22:11,200 Speaker 1: in the Jackson's is here. All this stuff about the 407 00:22:11,240 --> 00:22:14,760 Speaker 1: future of finance is here. So I think that we 408 00:22:14,920 --> 00:22:18,600 Speaker 1: need to pause and actually recognize that. Um But yes, 409 00:22:18,760 --> 00:22:21,760 Speaker 1: I believe that. I believe the future is here where 410 00:22:21,840 --> 00:22:25,800 Speaker 1: things are going. I think they're preparing us not to 411 00:22:25,840 --> 00:22:27,960 Speaker 1: get too deep, but I think they're preparing us for 412 00:22:28,000 --> 00:22:31,520 Speaker 1: another recession the same way the last recession happened. All 413 00:22:31,520 --> 00:22:35,639 Speaker 1: of a sudden, more housing became available, more credit became available, 414 00:22:35,720 --> 00:22:39,639 Speaker 1: interest rates were stable, all the same, the same temperature 415 00:22:39,760 --> 00:22:43,200 Speaker 1: of the market, the same pH balance of the economic 416 00:22:43,320 --> 00:22:46,159 Speaker 1: climates is the same. That's happening white now. So I 417 00:22:46,160 --> 00:22:48,639 Speaker 1: would say that there's a recession coming in the next 418 00:22:48,640 --> 00:22:50,880 Speaker 1: two years and we need to be prepared for it. 419 00:22:51,200 --> 00:22:53,679 Speaker 1: And I agree with you. You know, different ways I 420 00:22:53,680 --> 00:22:58,160 Speaker 1: approach money is you know, finding fixed rates and insurance policies, 421 00:22:58,200 --> 00:23:01,280 Speaker 1: different ways you can protect yourself and but like I 422 00:23:01,320 --> 00:23:03,840 Speaker 1: said again, you know when you listen to somebody talking 423 00:23:03,840 --> 00:23:05,840 Speaker 1: about finance, you have to be careful you talk because 424 00:23:05,840 --> 00:23:08,919 Speaker 1: people hold you accountable saying you were you recommended on 425 00:23:08,960 --> 00:23:10,840 Speaker 1: your show with show and that's why I vested in this, 426 00:23:11,480 --> 00:23:14,720 Speaker 1: or they take their advice and manipulate it. But more importantly, 427 00:23:14,840 --> 00:23:17,800 Speaker 1: how can individuals reach out to your company? I know 428 00:23:17,840 --> 00:23:22,520 Speaker 1: we're uh for advice for for for business consulting, Please 429 00:23:22,680 --> 00:23:26,080 Speaker 1: tell us right down, Angel. Yeah, so, first of all, 430 00:23:26,240 --> 00:23:29,040 Speaker 1: you can email us at info at get Walpi life 431 00:23:29,080 --> 00:23:33,960 Speaker 1: dot com. We can help directly with your financial situation 432 00:23:34,520 --> 00:23:37,520 Speaker 1: as well as for your company or school needs. UM. 433 00:23:37,520 --> 00:23:40,800 Speaker 1: We really kind of see ourselves as consultants as helping 434 00:23:40,880 --> 00:23:45,280 Speaker 1: with financial literacy on the individual or enterprise level. UM. 435 00:23:45,280 --> 00:23:47,960 Speaker 1: We can also do it with your data analystics as well, 436 00:23:48,080 --> 00:23:51,880 Speaker 1: because as we mentioned, we have to use the opposition algorithms, 437 00:23:51,880 --> 00:23:55,000 Speaker 1: so we're trying to help you save and make money 438 00:23:55,080 --> 00:23:58,639 Speaker 1: at the wealth Factory. UM. Additionally, we have a book 439 00:23:59,119 --> 00:24:01,720 Speaker 1: called History of the Block Dollars if you want to 440 00:24:01,800 --> 00:24:04,760 Speaker 1: kind of dive into the history of money, UM a 441 00:24:04,760 --> 00:24:08,080 Speaker 1: little bit further. Uh, that's something that you can check 442 00:24:08,080 --> 00:24:12,359 Speaker 1: out on Amazon dot com and then um, and about 443 00:24:12,359 --> 00:24:15,320 Speaker 1: another month or so, we're gonna actually finally release the 444 00:24:15,400 --> 00:24:19,480 Speaker 1: Wealthy Life textbook we hadn't drafted and we're going to 445 00:24:19,520 --> 00:24:23,479 Speaker 1: begin disseminating that out for individual purchase as well as 446 00:24:23,520 --> 00:24:26,639 Speaker 1: schools for ars. Can you come back on the show, 447 00:24:26,760 --> 00:24:28,280 Speaker 1: and when he comes out, so we talk about the 448 00:24:28,280 --> 00:24:32,080 Speaker 1: Angel We definitely, we definitely can. Um. Yeah, I'm gonna 449 00:24:32,119 --> 00:24:34,000 Speaker 1: release that room in the next couple of weeks. That 450 00:24:34,040 --> 00:24:36,560 Speaker 1: would be out before Black Friday. Okay, cool, Oh you're 451 00:24:36,560 --> 00:24:39,240 Speaker 1: strong and I appreciate your respect you And then guess 452 00:24:39,280 --> 00:24:42,080 Speaker 1: what coming back on my show, Angel Rich She's she's 453 00:24:42,080 --> 00:24:45,440 Speaker 1: a beast. She said, the money is now, spend it now, 454 00:24:45,600 --> 00:24:47,520 Speaker 1: think about it now, not the future.