WEBVTT - Week 8 recap 0:00:00.480 --> 0:00:05.600 Be Around the NFL Podcast. How's all higher b M 0:00:05.680 --> 0:00:09.840 I than QB all. Welcome back to another edition of 0:00:09.920 --> 0:00:12.920 the Around the NFL Podcast. My name is Dan Hansus 0:00:12.920 --> 0:00:16.160 and I am joined by room filled with heroes, Mark Sessler, 0:00:16.480 --> 0:00:20.760 Chris Westling, Greg Girls, what's up? Boys? Your hand motions 0:00:20.760 --> 0:00:24.840 are really going crazy? I forgot about that. Alright, we're 0:00:24.840 --> 0:00:28.680 looking at me. You're the last one that get into 0:00:29.000 --> 0:00:32.440 gets introduced. But then west as has become his trademark, 0:00:33.200 --> 0:00:36.720 chimes in with and then you that's a that's a 0:00:36.920 --> 0:00:39.680 bad sign for the show. I think it's good to 0:00:39.760 --> 0:00:42.440 keep listeners on their toes. You start expecting the same 0:00:42.479 --> 0:00:44.760 exact thing every week, gets a little stake. Well, Greg, 0:00:44.840 --> 0:00:47.400 what happened there? Honestly I know how the show is 0:00:47.440 --> 0:00:50.040 opened like sixty two times in a row and you 0:00:50.720 --> 0:00:54.000 that's how what happened? Uh? This is the Sunday edition 0:00:54.040 --> 0:00:58.440 of the Around the NFL Podcast, the flagship show of 0:00:58.480 --> 0:01:00.840 the regular season for US, A big show ahead of 0:01:00.920 --> 0:01:05.399 us today in a Sunday that unfortunately was marred by 0:01:05.640 --> 0:01:10.360 injuries to some key players. It could affect how everything happens. 0:01:10.480 --> 0:01:13.720 Everything is, everything's always you know, floating. You never know 0:01:13.760 --> 0:01:16.160 what's gonna happen in the NFL. But when injuries entered, 0:01:16.160 --> 0:01:20.880 the fray changes things quickly. Am I right? Christoph Wesley? Absolutely, 0:01:20.959 --> 0:01:23.600 it's a truism in football. Yes, absolutely, so a lot 0:01:23.600 --> 0:01:25.319 of stuff to get to today. We're gonna get to 0:01:26.040 --> 0:01:30.199 one of the great shootouts in recent history of the NFL. 0:01:30.360 --> 0:01:32.040 I think I'd go go on a limb and say 0:01:32.040 --> 0:01:34.559 that when a hundred points are scored between two teams, 0:01:34.560 --> 0:01:37.759 that's what happened to the Superdome, the Saints Giants, a thriller, 0:01:38.600 --> 0:01:45.759 the Cincinnati ben Gals. Wow, still undefeated, who saw this coming? 0:01:45.840 --> 0:01:48.920 Let's face it, undefeated and one of those key injuries 0:01:49.240 --> 0:01:51.840 came out of that game against the Steelers. Will get 0:01:51.840 --> 0:01:56.080 to that, and of course, our friend, the unofficial fifth 0:01:56.120 --> 0:01:58.680 member of the Around the NFL podcast crew, Colleen Wolfe, 0:01:58.680 --> 0:02:01.960 will join us drop by in the studio. Connie Fox 0:02:01.960 --> 0:02:10.360 says she's known to outsiders this podcast. That's about it. 0:02:10.440 --> 0:02:13.040 We did have I won't get into too many details, 0:02:13.040 --> 0:02:15.720 specific details, that we had a meeting with a shadowy 0:02:15.880 --> 0:02:20.560 league figure um who insinuated. So you call her Connie Fox. 0:02:20.600 --> 0:02:23.440 That seems maybe a little bit sexist, and we were 0:02:23.440 --> 0:02:27.239 like whoa, whoa, whoa chill out Shadowy League figure SLF 0:02:28.560 --> 0:02:31.040 Fox has nothing to do with like, well she's a 0:02:31.080 --> 0:02:33.520 Foxy's No, that was her name in high school, nickname 0:02:33.760 --> 0:02:35.920 that she went by. That she told us, and now 0:02:35.919 --> 0:02:39.600 we're repeating absolutely, there's no controversy. They're trying to boil 0:02:39.680 --> 0:02:42.920 one up. Enough oversight, they're trying to like put us 0:02:42.919 --> 0:02:45.080 into some type of controversy. It's good you set the 0:02:45.120 --> 0:02:47.799 record straight right here. Nobody will have any of our 0:02:47.919 --> 0:02:51.240 questions at all. So, yes, that's everything that's going on. 0:02:51.280 --> 0:02:53.080 We got a lot of games to get to. I 0:02:53.120 --> 0:02:56.760 believe the number is twelve, right, I believe it's what 0:02:56.800 --> 0:03:00.919 they're twelve. Twelve nailed it, So why don't he get 0:03:00.960 --> 0:03:04.480 into it? And we'll start with the shootout at the 0:03:04.560 --> 0:03:07.639 super Dome. Drew Brees tied an NFL record with seven 0:03:07.680 --> 0:03:10.760 touchdown passes, and Kai four Bath hit a fifty two 0:03:10.840 --> 0:03:13.760 yard field goal as time expired, lifting the Saints to 0:03:13.919 --> 0:03:17.280 a oh my god, fifty two to forty nine win 0:03:17.400 --> 0:03:19.960 over the New York Giants, and, as as I said, 0:03:20.000 --> 0:03:23.600 one of the great shootouts in recent NFL history, a 0:03:23.680 --> 0:03:27.880 game that on two occasions the Saints went up fourteen points, 0:03:27.919 --> 0:03:29.800 only to see the Giants come all the way back. 0:03:30.320 --> 0:03:32.760 The Giants actually took a lead in the fourth quarter 0:03:32.800 --> 0:03:35.600 on a pick six. Um It wasn't even I was 0:03:35.600 --> 0:03:37.680 gonna say one of Drew Brees rare mistakes in the 0:03:37.680 --> 0:03:39.520 game that that wasn't on him. It was a It 0:03:39.640 --> 0:03:41.960 was a catch in a strip that led to the 0:03:42.440 --> 0:03:45.720 fumble recovery. It wasn't even a pick six recovered. Nailed 0:03:45.720 --> 0:03:48.520 it again, Giants in the league. But then here comes 0:03:48.520 --> 0:03:51.080 the Saints one more time. C J. Spiller touchdown catch. 0:03:51.640 --> 0:03:54.880 That's number six for touchdown passes or seven. And then 0:03:54.880 --> 0:03:59.640 the winner comes Greg on a punt punt return face 0:03:59.720 --> 0:04:02.480 mask drills the fifty two yard or in same game 0:04:02.520 --> 0:04:06.839 with the Superdome. The Saints alive, so alive, we bury them. 0:04:06.840 --> 0:04:09.480 We four, They've won three in a row. Their schedule 0:04:09.600 --> 0:04:12.880 is easy street. Uh. Moving forward, I remember we threw 0:04:12.920 --> 0:04:15.160 out that idea after they won that Thursday night game, 0:04:15.200 --> 0:04:17.080 and we we kind of poo pooed it. And now 0:04:17.120 --> 0:04:19.240 you look at them. Their offense has looked like the 0:04:19.279 --> 0:04:21.599 Saints offense for the last couple of weeks. You've seen 0:04:21.640 --> 0:04:24.920 this building. Now the Giants defense and Steve Spagnolo. They 0:04:24.920 --> 0:04:27.800 have no pass rush, they can't do anything, so that 0:04:27.839 --> 0:04:30.320 should be taken into account. But you said, you know, 0:04:30.520 --> 0:04:32.240 maybe this is one of the great shootouts in the NFL. 0:04:32.240 --> 0:04:34.880 Street there's no doubt, the most passing touchdowns in a 0:04:34.960 --> 0:04:37.160 single game ever. You know, Drew Brees tied the single 0:04:37.839 --> 0:04:40.800 single mark and they broke the combined mark. Eli, Manny 0:04:40.839 --> 0:04:43.080 and Drew Brees together. Eli meant, what happened with Eli 0:04:43.120 --> 0:04:45.760 should not be lost. Three fifty yards over three d 0:04:45.839 --> 0:04:49.320 fifth yards, six touchdowns himself a career high mark. Well, 0:04:49.360 --> 0:04:50.520 I mean, and it was I think it was a 0:04:50.520 --> 0:04:52.560 week ago on Sunday night when I was saying, you know, 0:04:52.600 --> 0:04:56.160 the Saints defense is coming around, and maybe it's time 0:04:56.200 --> 0:04:58.360 for us to realize that it took Rob Ryan time 0:04:58.400 --> 0:05:01.279 to get his young players involve. Well, forget about it. 0:05:01.320 --> 0:05:03.440 I mean, you've just given up forty nine points. But 0:05:03.480 --> 0:05:06.919 it's also sometimes these weird shootout games have nothing to 0:05:07.000 --> 0:05:09.640 almost do with who the teams are. They just they 0:05:09.720 --> 0:05:11.880 kind of unfold this way. In this case, with the 0:05:11.880 --> 0:05:13.719 way the Saints have been played all year, it does. 0:05:13.880 --> 0:05:16.200 And the Giant, I mean, these are the worst defenses 0:05:16.200 --> 0:05:18.320 in the league, so it makes sense that that's what 0:05:18.360 --> 0:05:20.040 I want to know. Last year, when the Steelers and 0:05:20.120 --> 0:05:21.880 Colts had that great shoot out, it was the best 0:05:21.960 --> 0:05:25.400 quarterbacks game I'd ever seen. Was this great quarterbacking or 0:05:25.440 --> 0:05:27.880 the two worst secondaries in the NFL, because that's what 0:05:27.960 --> 0:05:31.039 the secondaries have been so far this year. It's hard 0:05:31.040 --> 0:05:32.720 to say, I mean, but you I don't want to 0:05:32.720 --> 0:05:35.400 take credit away from Drew Brees what he did or 0:05:35.400 --> 0:05:37.200 what Eli did. I mean it was there was a 0:05:37.240 --> 0:05:40.200 point in this game where it was probably midway through 0:05:40.240 --> 0:05:43.320 the third quarter, where they had combined nine touchdown passes 0:05:43.600 --> 0:05:47.760 and seven incompletions. So, yeah, there's some terrible defense here, 0:05:47.760 --> 0:05:49.880 but these are also and I know West You're not 0:05:49.880 --> 0:05:51.440 going to hear it, but I'm gonna say these are 0:05:51.440 --> 0:05:56.760 two Hall of Fame quarterbacks forming an incredible level in 0:05:56.839 --> 0:05:59.000 a in a big stage and bringing the best out 0:05:59.000 --> 0:06:01.520 of each other. Um as far as I had an 0:06:01.520 --> 0:06:03.680 idea also right around the time I saw the staff 0:06:03.720 --> 0:06:06.640 that nine touchdowns, the seven and completions that this should 0:06:06.640 --> 0:06:10.240 have been a loser goes to Canada match between Steve Spagnola, 0:06:10.320 --> 0:06:14.600 the Giants defensive coordinator, Rob Ryan the Staints defensive coordinator, 0:06:14.800 --> 0:06:17.840 and Canada being the home of a CFL team where 0:06:17.839 --> 0:06:20.200 they could be a linebackers coach. Sure, I think that fits. 0:06:20.240 --> 0:06:22.080 I mean it's fitting for Rob Ryan at this point, 0:06:22.080 --> 0:06:24.760 I'd give him that award. Vince McMahon was the commissioner 0:06:24.800 --> 0:06:27.880 that would happened. How about Sean Payton just putting it 0:06:28.040 --> 0:06:32.080 to his old charge, Steve Spagnola. I mean people don't remember. 0:06:33.040 --> 0:06:36.280 I'm just saying people don't remember this thieve Spagnolo era 0:06:37.960 --> 0:06:40.919 because it was a disaster and he left there not 0:06:41.279 --> 0:06:45.160 a well liked guy, necessarily by his players or by 0:06:45.279 --> 0:06:48.280 his ex boss, and to put something on him like that. 0:06:51.040 --> 0:06:54.520 Basically super Bowl forty two never happened because of this game. 0:06:54.640 --> 0:06:57.720 This This game provided more joy I think to the 0:06:57.800 --> 0:06:59.760 fans in New Orleans and the Thames that they expected 0:06:59.760 --> 0:07:02.040 to get from this entire season. These are two teams 0:07:02.080 --> 0:07:04.359 that if the you know, playoffs started now, like the 0:07:04.400 --> 0:07:06.440 Saints are in the mix and the Giants are still 0:07:06.520 --> 0:07:09.040 leading their division, just shows you how mediocre the NFC 0:07:09.200 --> 0:07:10.840 is at the bottom. I got to deliver a couple 0:07:10.880 --> 0:07:13.080 more stats about this game, so it's a great all 0:07:13.160 --> 0:07:16.280 times stats game. The game yielded more than one thousand 0:07:16.360 --> 0:07:21.120 total yards, sixty feet downs and over eight hundred yards passing. 0:07:21.400 --> 0:07:24.440 This is like Mark, you versed your brother in super 0:07:24.440 --> 0:07:26.680 Tech Mobile in ninety two. No, not at all. I 0:07:26.680 --> 0:07:29.080 would destroy him regularly and he would he would attest 0:07:29.080 --> 0:07:31.440 to that. I mean, I was kind of just a 0:07:31.520 --> 0:07:33.640 general statement, but we can get it. I was else. 0:07:33.760 --> 0:07:35.960 That was one thing I did well in life was technoballs. 0:07:36.080 --> 0:07:38.600 You play with the Browns, I'll play with any team 0:07:38.600 --> 0:07:41.600 I wanted. I wanted thirty two team championship with the 0:07:41.600 --> 0:07:43.920 Browns with a couple of neighbors. And this was a 0:07:44.840 --> 0:07:47.200 Browns team went three and thirteen in real life, So 0:07:47.480 --> 0:07:50.000 that's coaching. We used to have tournaments where we would 0:07:50.000 --> 0:07:55.440 have offensive and defensive coordinators. We're sounding like, that's so funny. 0:07:55.480 --> 0:07:57.400 We're sounding like the guys that used to talk about 0:07:57.400 --> 0:08:00.600 Strata matic. Now, yeah, when you talk about like anys 0:08:00.680 --> 0:08:03.320 Nintendo entertainment system, you brought us there. I did, and 0:08:03.320 --> 0:08:05.520 it was my fault. Super Tech Mobile was a great game. 0:08:05.560 --> 0:08:07.480 So yeah, I mean, what do we What was that? 0:08:07.680 --> 0:08:08.840 I was just gonna say a good call on the 0:08:09.080 --> 0:08:11.240 big Odell Beckham game. Tobe. Wasn't that one of the 0:08:11.720 --> 0:08:14.080 headlines from the future going. He actually was better than 0:08:14.280 --> 0:08:17.160 I predicted two touchdowns and two hundred yards. He actually 0:08:17.200 --> 0:08:19.000 only got a hundred and thirty yards, but he had 0:08:19.000 --> 0:08:21.720 three touchdowns. He looked a hundred percent in Mark. I 0:08:21.760 --> 0:08:23.240 have to I'm gonna put it in the end Around 0:08:23.280 --> 0:08:25.200 this week, if for no other reason, just to make 0:08:25.200 --> 0:08:27.720 sure you see it, um, because I know you read 0:08:27.760 --> 0:08:30.320 the end Around every week religiously with on a Friday 0:08:30.320 --> 0:08:35.680 afternoon read it. The Fox telecast showed his pregame exercise routine, 0:08:36.000 --> 0:08:38.600 which now you know he obviously knows the cameras on him. 0:08:38.679 --> 0:08:41.120 At one point he did a forward role in the 0:08:41.240 --> 0:08:43.440 end zone and then came up pretending to be shooting 0:08:43.480 --> 0:08:47.040 a gun like a detective and like a seventies uh 0:08:47.320 --> 0:08:50.040 television series. I mean, listen, I think we all agree 0:08:50.080 --> 0:08:53.560 that he's an absolutely phenomenal player and in growing and 0:08:53.600 --> 0:08:56.640 growingly tedious with every week. Signetti, I'm parting you up. 0:08:57.720 --> 0:09:01.640 Beckham Jr. Signetia would love to have O'Dell Beckham Jr. 0:09:01.720 --> 0:09:03.760 Right now. So what I mean, are either of these 0:09:03.760 --> 0:09:05.280 teams is going to be in the playoffs. I'll just 0:09:05.400 --> 0:09:07.600 throw it out there right now, because both teams are 0:09:07.640 --> 0:09:10.120 still in the Saints are now in legitimate good position 0:09:10.400 --> 0:09:12.160 to have a shot at this or four and four 0:09:12.360 --> 0:09:14.560 to make a run at the wild card potentially, and 0:09:14.600 --> 0:09:16.880 the Giants at four and four, they're still like right 0:09:16.880 --> 0:09:18.520 in the mix of the NFC NFC East. But we 0:09:18.520 --> 0:09:20.080 don't West. We don't think either of these teams are 0:09:20.160 --> 0:09:23.280 very good, right, I mean, they're both mediocre, but I 0:09:23.280 --> 0:09:26.160 think Greg, you know, Greg mentioned it earlier, the NFC 0:09:26.240 --> 0:09:30.440 so mediocre throughout really, then FC is the stronger conference 0:09:30.520 --> 0:09:33.240 right now. Cowboys were loving this game. It's another another 0:09:33.320 --> 0:09:35.959 loss where just the winner of the NFC East doesn't 0:09:35.960 --> 0:09:38.000 look like they're gonna get more than nine wins this year. 0:09:38.000 --> 0:09:40.000 At least the Cowboys can feel like, Okay, we're in 0:09:40.040 --> 0:09:41.839 it for another week, you know what. I don't want 0:09:41.840 --> 0:09:43.280 to hear that with the Cowboys, and we'll get to 0:09:43.320 --> 0:09:45.480 them later. But you can't lose like nine games in 0:09:45.520 --> 0:09:47.160 aro own be like, hey, I'm feeling pretty good about 0:09:47.200 --> 0:09:50.200 the chances. At a certain point, you stink, Yeah, they stink. 0:09:50.600 --> 0:09:53.559 All right. Let's move on now to a big a 0:09:53.720 --> 0:09:58.840 f C North showdown the Cincinnati Bengals the Pittsburgh Steelers. 0:09:58.920 --> 0:10:02.160 Heinz Field, We talked about this on Thursday, Greg. If 0:10:02.200 --> 0:10:05.040 the Steelers couldn't win this game, a C North is over, 0:10:05.800 --> 0:10:08.320 it is. Andy Dalton took off a pair of fourth 0:10:08.400 --> 0:10:11.440 quarter picks, hitting a J. Green for the go ahead score. 0:10:11.920 --> 0:10:14.040 The Bengals at the end of the game sixteen ten 0:10:14.120 --> 0:10:17.200 win over the Steelers West. The Bengals just locked up 0:10:17.240 --> 0:10:20.240 the a f C North and the Steelers have lost 0:10:20.320 --> 0:10:22.800 Levy on Bell the even bigger story. I don't think 0:10:22.800 --> 0:10:26.000 it's mathematically over, but yeah, I think essentially the f 0:10:26.120 --> 0:10:28.480 C North belongs to the Bengals, and you have to 0:10:28.520 --> 0:10:31.680 admire their ability to to kind of withstand the pressure 0:10:31.720 --> 0:10:34.040 that the Steelers brought. For the first time all year, 0:10:34.120 --> 0:10:36.120 the Bengals offensive line lost the battle of the line 0:10:36.120 --> 0:10:39.360 of scrimmage. The Steelers got consistent heat on Dandy Dalton 0:10:40.040 --> 0:10:42.760 and they didn't do much for three quarters. And then 0:10:42.800 --> 0:10:45.679 when the game was on the line, Dalton responded after 0:10:45.760 --> 0:10:48.080 throwing two fourth quarter picks and led the game winning 0:10:48.160 --> 0:10:51.319 drive similar to what he did against Baltimore where it 0:10:51.400 --> 0:10:53.439 was really his worst moment of the year and then 0:10:53.440 --> 0:10:55.600 he ends up driving for the game winner. He did 0:10:55.600 --> 0:10:58.360 it here today. And yet all of this as great 0:10:58.360 --> 0:11:01.160 a win as it was for Cincinnati and tough as 0:11:01.000 --> 0:11:04.120 is for Pittsburgh. It seems secondary to them losing levy 0:11:04.160 --> 0:11:06.080 On Bell for the season. Just as we're going up 0:11:06.120 --> 0:11:09.080 to tape this, Ian Rappaport reports he's gonna he has 0:11:09.080 --> 0:11:12.440 a severely torn mc L and he is expected to 0:11:12.520 --> 0:11:15.040 miss the season. And that is just a brutal loss. 0:11:15.240 --> 0:11:17.800 And that doesn't sound good when when the insiders are 0:11:17.800 --> 0:11:19.880 getting the word that it's not just the terror of 0:11:19.880 --> 0:11:22.680 your mc L, a severe tear. I mean that sounds 0:11:22.720 --> 0:11:25.000 like a long rehab process. Will probably he's gonna end 0:11:25.080 --> 0:11:27.840 up on I, R and and West. I ask you, 0:11:28.360 --> 0:11:30.880 is this a crushing loss for the Steelers in the 0:11:30.920 --> 0:11:33.520 sense that they're no longer a title contender without levy 0:11:33.600 --> 0:11:36.319 On Bell. I believe that to be the case, because 0:11:36.360 --> 0:11:40.079 I believe as great as Todd Gurley is, levy On 0:11:40.120 --> 0:11:42.480 Bill is probably the best all around running back in football. 0:11:42.760 --> 0:11:45.440 He's so patient, he has such great vision, such a 0:11:45.440 --> 0:11:48.360 great receiver. And then D'Angel Williams is all right, I 0:11:48.360 --> 0:11:51.920 mean savage five point five yards per carry in situations 0:11:51.920 --> 0:11:54.480 where levy On Bell has been unavailable this year, so 0:11:54.520 --> 0:11:56.440 he's a good backup as fur as backups go. But 0:11:56.760 --> 0:12:00.200 Leby on Bell is just so dynamic. Then again, just 0:12:00.280 --> 0:12:03.520 thinking about this game, like everyone I expected, you know, 0:12:03.559 --> 0:12:07.600 Ben Roethlisberger's back. This isn't an easy matchup, but they're 0:12:07.640 --> 0:12:10.439 gonna score some points. Again, I mean, they scored ten 0:12:10.480 --> 0:12:13.760 points today. It's a little unfair. They had a really 0:12:13.800 --> 0:12:16.520 methodical opening drive touchdown that seemed a little too easy 0:12:16.559 --> 0:12:19.400 for them, and the life went out of the stadium 0:12:19.400 --> 0:12:22.120 when Levan Bell got injured. They just couldn't do anything 0:12:22.120 --> 0:12:24.280 on offense after that. I mean, also, you're asking big 0:12:24.320 --> 0:12:26.400 Ben after coming off a knee injury and not that 0:12:26.440 --> 0:12:28.800 he rushed back, but there's no way is he a 0:12:28.880 --> 0:12:32.160 hundred didn't agility. It's gonna take some time. I I 0:12:32.160 --> 0:12:35.360 don't count the Steelers at all out of another murky 0:12:35.440 --> 0:12:38.040 a f C playoff race, and it is it feels 0:12:38.080 --> 0:12:39.559 like when we say that a f C North is 0:12:39.640 --> 0:12:42.480 sealed and it's November one, that weird things happen in 0:12:42.480 --> 0:12:44.960 that division. But there's a lot of dumb predictions where 0:12:44.960 --> 0:12:47.760 we have. But the Bengals would have to comprehensively crumble 0:12:48.120 --> 0:12:50.520 and the trip the Triplets in Pittsburgh, which I think 0:12:50.600 --> 0:12:52.640 is potentially the best in the league have been on 0:12:52.679 --> 0:12:55.200 the field together for what about twenty five minutes this season, 0:12:55.600 --> 0:12:57.560 and they're not not gonna happen. It's not gonna happen again. 0:12:57.960 --> 0:13:00.280 You know, let's let's talk about the Bengals with here, 0:13:00.280 --> 0:13:02.559 because now they're seven and oh, this is a game. 0:13:02.600 --> 0:13:04.960 I think a lot of people expected them to get 0:13:04.960 --> 0:13:07.240 picked off here and once again they don't. And maybe 0:13:07.240 --> 0:13:11.800 even uh more reason for optimism is Andy Dalton did 0:13:11.800 --> 0:13:13.920 not play a great game. This is probably his worst 0:13:13.960 --> 0:13:16.000 game of the season. Definitely was his worst game. And 0:13:16.080 --> 0:13:18.760 yet instead of a full on crumble west he had, 0:13:18.840 --> 0:13:21.120 he led them down the field and got the game 0:13:21.160 --> 0:13:23.400 winning touchdown. So even in the day that was a 0:13:23.440 --> 0:13:27.760 down day statistically, still progress for the Flaming Ginger Man. 0:13:27.880 --> 0:13:29.880 I would not call this progress for Andy Daltons. I 0:13:29.920 --> 0:13:33.200 admire the team's resilience, but this wasn't a good performance 0:13:33.200 --> 0:13:35.079 by him. This was a good performance by a j 0:13:35.200 --> 0:13:38.840 Green in the defense. And maybe they get a little 0:13:38.840 --> 0:13:40.760 help from the running game in the offensive line, and 0:13:40.760 --> 0:13:42.560 that just speaks to the point that this is a 0:13:42.559 --> 0:13:45.520 team that Andy Dalton's carried them some weeks, but it's 0:13:45.559 --> 0:13:48.440 a complete team in the defense, I think quietly gotten 0:13:48.440 --> 0:13:51.040 a little bit better each and everything this season. They 0:13:51.040 --> 0:13:53.760 got on to his perfect back today for base packages 0:13:53.800 --> 0:13:56.120 and had a huge impact. He's the guy who knocked 0:13:56.200 --> 0:13:57.560 Livy on Bill out of the game. And I know 0:13:57.600 --> 0:13:59.680 it's a division game, but they get the Browns on Thursday, 0:13:59.760 --> 0:14:03.400 they at the Texans at home. After that, they's two wins. 0:14:03.480 --> 0:14:07.760 They are looking at most likely nine and oh heading 0:14:07.800 --> 0:14:10.839 into deep November, which is just it's an amazing thing. 0:14:11.080 --> 0:14:13.960 West Uh, your favorite day of the year. Everyone knows. 0:14:14.040 --> 0:14:17.640 It's the first wild card game on a Saturday in 0:14:17.800 --> 0:14:22.160 January known as West Abens because it's always it's seemingly 0:14:22.200 --> 0:14:25.840 always the Bengals in that game getting picked off. You 0:14:25.920 --> 0:14:28.640 go to a local bar and you you drink and 0:14:28.680 --> 0:14:33.400 you celebrate. Uh. The p scale, Now here's the scale. 0:14:33.640 --> 0:14:37.600 One dry pants, you're a grown up, no issues. You're 0:14:37.600 --> 0:14:40.640 feeling you gotta go to the bathroom. Go to the bathroom. 0:14:40.640 --> 0:14:44.320 Ten your pants are soaked with pe. All your underpants 0:14:44.320 --> 0:14:46.920 are so went through your underpants into your regular pants. 0:14:46.960 --> 0:14:49.160 You gotta go change your clothes because you're soaked with pete. 0:14:49.160 --> 0:14:51.080 Where are you standing? You know, last time you checked 0:14:51.080 --> 0:14:53.040 out was about a nine point eight. I think I'm 0:14:53.080 --> 0:14:56.080 at about an eight point four. Now, oh dropped, How 0:14:56.240 --> 0:14:59.400 is that possible? They weren't impressed. Of all, They're not 0:14:59.400 --> 0:15:01.720 gonna be played on that first Saturday. If nothing else. 0:15:01.760 --> 0:15:04.080 The West of this committee, you know, the Parent teacher 0:15:04.120 --> 0:15:06.880 association that plans it, you know, bakes the cookies, does 0:15:06.920 --> 0:15:09.040 all sorts of things. They're gonna have to meet and 0:15:09.080 --> 0:15:12.600 officially move the holidays later. Well, I don't feel like 0:15:12.600 --> 0:15:14.560 the Patriots are going to lose a game, and you 0:15:14.600 --> 0:15:17.360 know that's a good point thousand thirteen Payton Manning showed 0:15:17.400 --> 0:15:20.120 up Sunday night. So then you're saying you're county on 0:15:20.160 --> 0:15:22.120 them being the three seed and they still play in 0:15:22.160 --> 0:15:24.200 that game, that's fair and they get bombed out by 0:15:24.200 --> 0:15:29.560 the six. The West, I feel like he's, you know, 0:15:29.760 --> 0:15:32.400 kind of hoping more than using his football mind. He 0:15:32.440 --> 0:15:35.080 doesn't need to worry about this holiday at all. There's 0:15:35.080 --> 0:15:37.920 still three hundred and sixty three other days a year 0:15:37.960 --> 0:15:40.560 that West could go to a local bar, and he will, 0:15:41.520 --> 0:15:44.240 but none and Wes you'll explain to Mark, but there's 0:15:44.280 --> 0:15:47.480 nothing quite as special as that off day on Saturday 0:15:47.480 --> 0:15:50.720 watching his old Cincinnati team that he said, I don't 0:15:50.760 --> 0:15:53.280 want you in my life anymore. Going up in Flames 0:15:53.280 --> 0:15:55.000 a special day and if the day I've been able 0:15:55.000 --> 0:15:59.520 to rely on for the past. Putting in the Bengals 0:15:59.600 --> 0:16:02.160 on Saturday this time, this is a different Bengals team 0:16:02.160 --> 0:16:04.640 than they were on Sunday morning last time. I think 0:16:04.720 --> 0:16:07.440 I schedule around West of this at this point, like 0:16:07.520 --> 0:16:09.880 West just gets that day off and he'll work the 0:16:09.920 --> 0:16:14.440 other playoff day. It's totally preposterous, all right, Moving on, 0:16:14.520 --> 0:16:19.120 Let's go down to Big d Russell Wilson, get clutch Russ, 0:16:19.280 --> 0:16:21.680 danger Us they call him. And by the way, Russell Wilson, 0:16:22.480 --> 0:16:26.960 I saw your Instagram page dressing up as Batman with 0:16:27.040 --> 0:16:30.840 Sierra and renting out the Batmobile. Dude, get in control 0:16:30.880 --> 0:16:32.880 of your situation. You don't need your woman running your 0:16:32.960 --> 0:16:35.480 entire life. I'm sorry. By the way, t D, I 0:16:35.560 --> 0:16:37.600 know you're not. You're shaking your head. I'm not even 0:16:37.880 --> 0:16:39.760 I've never been a fan of that relationship. I think 0:16:39.760 --> 0:16:41.880 it's weird. I think he's just trying too hard. And 0:16:41.960 --> 0:16:44.640 that was that was that was dismal. Yeah, hold on, 0:16:44.960 --> 0:16:48.840 he rented out the Batman. But it's a car, it's 0:16:48.840 --> 0:16:52.040 a very it's a version of one batmobile. Just she's 0:16:52.080 --> 0:16:58.160 in total control of the situation. Let's face it. Russell 0:16:58.200 --> 0:17:01.080 Wilson let a clutch sixteen played drive, setting up the 0:17:01.120 --> 0:17:04.280 game winning field goal in the Seahawks sent the Cowboys 0:17:04.280 --> 0:17:06.480 to their fifth straight loss, this time the thirteen to 0:17:06.560 --> 0:17:11.639 twelve set back at Jeral World West. Have the Seahawks 0:17:11.680 --> 0:17:15.040 started their expected surge or do you still see problems 0:17:15.080 --> 0:17:19.560 for the defending NFC champions. It's a tough question because 0:17:19.560 --> 0:17:22.880 they did not play well. They had their usual litany 0:17:23.040 --> 0:17:26.840 a fourth quarter misques. Uh. It really started late in 0:17:26.840 --> 0:17:29.080 the third quarter when Greg Hardy had a deflected passing 0:17:29.119 --> 0:17:32.159 an interception. They get a field goal blocked, they have 0:17:32.200 --> 0:17:35.840 ill time penalties, they have they have a fumble. It's 0:17:35.880 --> 0:17:38.800 just Marshawn Lynch runs out of bounds. He's a veteran. 0:17:38.800 --> 0:17:40.520 He should have stayed in bound to kill the clock, 0:17:41.000 --> 0:17:43.359 and they they escaped to be because Matt Castle was 0:17:43.400 --> 0:17:49.320 a horrible quarterback. That end sequence between that Mack Castle 0:17:49.400 --> 0:17:51.280 had in the game, which is probably you know, the 0:17:52.240 --> 0:17:54.280 part of America that didn't watch the whole game ended 0:17:54.359 --> 0:17:57.359 up watching that last sequence that was about as ugly 0:17:57.680 --> 0:18:00.240 a four plays in a row as any quarterback could 0:18:00.280 --> 0:18:03.360 have it. To the Seahawks credit, they clearly knew who 0:18:03.440 --> 0:18:06.040 was quarterbacking against him when they decided to roll Russell 0:18:06.040 --> 0:18:09.080 Wilson out for a play that would kill the clock 0:18:09.440 --> 0:18:12.440 instead of throwing to the end zone. They just wanted 0:18:12.640 --> 0:18:14.640 to leave Matt Castle with a minute instead of two 0:18:14.640 --> 0:18:17.720 minutes for a field. Well, it was the play, okay, 0:18:17.720 --> 0:18:20.399 So take us through that that sequence because it was 0:18:20.440 --> 0:18:22.520 the rollout where he took the horrible sack, right, I 0:18:22.520 --> 0:18:25.880 mean he held onto the ball forever a couple There 0:18:26.000 --> 0:18:29.000 was the incomplete pass that they thought was a fumble 0:18:29.080 --> 0:18:33.000 for a touchdown. Yes, the fourth down play was really 0:18:33.080 --> 0:18:35.640 just Doug Free was beaten quickly. He couldn't have done 0:18:35.720 --> 0:18:37.479 much about that, but it was just about as as 0:18:37.560 --> 0:18:39.720 ugly as it gets after a performance. Were back. Castle 0:18:40.119 --> 0:18:41.879 had a lot of nice throws the week before, but 0:18:41.960 --> 0:18:44.440 this week Jerry Jones said after the game he thought 0:18:44.480 --> 0:18:47.200 Matt Castle played well enough to win this game. He 0:18:47.280 --> 0:18:52.040 said that four in the fourth quarter. Who said that? 0:18:52.080 --> 0:18:54.720 He also said Brandon Waden is the most beautiful quarterback 0:18:54.760 --> 0:18:56.560 in the end, I was gonna say, we gotta choose 0:18:56.560 --> 0:18:59.080 our words carefully. This is an owner of a team. 0:18:59.080 --> 0:19:02.480 But I will say, Shara at a certain point, everything 0:19:02.520 --> 0:19:05.600 he says is completely out of touch with reality. I mean, 0:19:06.080 --> 0:19:09.560 there's everything, whether it's been their offensive line or Brandon 0:19:09.600 --> 0:19:12.920 Weeden or Matt Castle or every running back they for 0:19:13.080 --> 0:19:18.840 every running back, it's basically it's but mcfannon is carrying 0:19:18.840 --> 0:19:22.800 this team four yards rushing. I mean, you know I 0:19:22.800 --> 0:19:26.040 I hear you. He's totaled thirteen yards, would have had 0:19:26.080 --> 0:19:28.440 a hundred thirty eight if not for a stupid illegal 0:19:28.480 --> 0:19:32.119 shift penalty second straight week. That he's really the entire 0:19:32.160 --> 0:19:35.480 offense best three point two yards per carry player in 0:19:35.480 --> 0:19:37.440 the league. It's hard to rush for more than three 0:19:37.480 --> 0:19:39.399 yards of carry when the other team has no respect 0:19:39.400 --> 0:19:42.280 for the quarterback. I am. I'm more surprised about the 0:19:42.320 --> 0:19:44.720 Seahawks offense in this game, and the Cowboys defense is 0:19:44.720 --> 0:19:47.040 getting better and better each week. But I thought the 0:19:47.040 --> 0:19:50.440