1 00:00:00,480 --> 00:00:05,600 Speaker 1: Be Around the NFL Podcast. How's all higher b M 2 00:00:05,680 --> 00:00:09,840 Speaker 1: I than QB all. Welcome back to another edition of 3 00:00:09,920 --> 00:00:12,920 Speaker 1: the Around the NFL Podcast. My name is Dan Hansus 4 00:00:12,920 --> 00:00:16,160 Speaker 1: and I am joined by room filled with heroes, Mark Sessler, 5 00:00:16,480 --> 00:00:20,760 Speaker 1: Chris Westling, Greg Girls, what's up? Boys? Your hand motions 6 00:00:20,760 --> 00:00:24,840 Speaker 1: are really going crazy? I forgot about that. Alright, we're 7 00:00:24,840 --> 00:00:28,680 Speaker 1: looking at me. You're the last one that get into 8 00:00:29,000 --> 00:00:32,440 Speaker 1: gets introduced. But then west as has become his trademark, 9 00:00:33,200 --> 00:00:36,720 Speaker 1: chimes in with and then you that's a that's a 10 00:00:36,920 --> 00:00:39,680 Speaker 1: bad sign for the show. I think it's good to 11 00:00:39,760 --> 00:00:42,440 Speaker 1: keep listeners on their toes. You start expecting the same 12 00:00:42,479 --> 00:00:44,760 Speaker 1: exact thing every week, gets a little stake. Well, Greg, 13 00:00:44,840 --> 00:00:47,400 Speaker 1: what happened there? Honestly I know how the show is 14 00:00:47,440 --> 00:00:50,040 Speaker 1: opened like sixty two times in a row and you 15 00:00:50,720 --> 00:00:54,000 Speaker 1: that's how what happened? Uh? This is the Sunday edition 16 00:00:54,040 --> 00:00:58,440 Speaker 1: of the Around the NFL Podcast, the flagship show of 17 00:00:58,480 --> 00:01:00,840 Speaker 1: the regular season for US, A big show ahead of 18 00:01:00,920 --> 00:01:05,399 Speaker 1: us today in a Sunday that unfortunately was marred by 19 00:01:05,640 --> 00:01:10,360 Speaker 1: injuries to some key players. It could affect how everything happens. 20 00:01:10,480 --> 00:01:13,720 Speaker 1: Everything is, everything's always you know, floating. You never know 21 00:01:13,760 --> 00:01:16,160 Speaker 1: what's gonna happen in the NFL. But when injuries entered, 22 00:01:16,160 --> 00:01:20,880 Speaker 1: the fray changes things quickly. Am I right? Christoph Wesley? Absolutely, 23 00:01:20,959 --> 00:01:23,600 Speaker 1: it's a truism in football. Yes, absolutely, so a lot 24 00:01:23,600 --> 00:01:25,319 Speaker 1: of stuff to get to today. We're gonna get to 25 00:01:26,040 --> 00:01:30,199 Speaker 1: one of the great shootouts in recent history of the NFL. 26 00:01:30,360 --> 00:01:32,040 Speaker 1: I think I'd go go on a limb and say 27 00:01:32,040 --> 00:01:34,559 Speaker 1: that when a hundred points are scored between two teams, 28 00:01:34,560 --> 00:01:37,759 Speaker 1: that's what happened to the Superdome, the Saints Giants, a thriller, 29 00:01:38,600 --> 00:01:45,759 Speaker 1: the Cincinnati ben Gals. Wow, still undefeated, who saw this coming? 30 00:01:45,840 --> 00:01:48,920 Speaker 1: Let's face it, undefeated and one of those key injuries 31 00:01:49,240 --> 00:01:51,840 Speaker 1: came out of that game against the Steelers. Will get 32 00:01:51,840 --> 00:01:56,080 Speaker 1: to that, and of course, our friend, the unofficial fifth 33 00:01:56,120 --> 00:01:58,680 Speaker 1: member of the Around the NFL podcast crew, Colleen Wolfe, 34 00:01:58,680 --> 00:02:01,960 Speaker 1: will join us drop by in the studio. Connie Fox 35 00:02:01,960 --> 00:02:10,360 Speaker 1: says she's known to outsiders this podcast. That's about it. 36 00:02:10,440 --> 00:02:13,040 Speaker 1: We did have I won't get into too many details, 37 00:02:13,040 --> 00:02:15,720 Speaker 1: specific details, that we had a meeting with a shadowy 38 00:02:15,880 --> 00:02:20,560 Speaker 1: league figure um who insinuated. So you call her Connie Fox. 39 00:02:20,600 --> 00:02:23,440 Speaker 1: That seems maybe a little bit sexist, and we were 40 00:02:23,440 --> 00:02:27,239 Speaker 1: like whoa, whoa, whoa chill out Shadowy League figure SLF 41 00:02:28,560 --> 00:02:31,040 Speaker 1: Fox has nothing to do with like, well she's a 42 00:02:31,080 --> 00:02:33,520 Speaker 1: Foxy's No, that was her name in high school, nickname 43 00:02:33,760 --> 00:02:35,920 Speaker 1: that she went by. That she told us, and now 44 00:02:35,919 --> 00:02:39,600 Speaker 1: we're repeating absolutely, there's no controversy. They're trying to boil 45 00:02:39,680 --> 00:02:42,920 Speaker 1: one up. Enough oversight, they're trying to like put us 46 00:02:42,919 --> 00:02:45,080 Speaker 1: into some type of controversy. It's good you set the 47 00:02:45,120 --> 00:02:47,799 Speaker 1: record straight right here. Nobody will have any of our 48 00:02:47,919 --> 00:02:51,240 Speaker 1: questions at all. So, yes, that's everything that's going on. 49 00:02:51,280 --> 00:02:53,080 Speaker 1: We got a lot of games to get to. I 50 00:02:53,120 --> 00:02:56,760 Speaker 1: believe the number is twelve, right, I believe it's what 51 00:02:56,800 --> 00:03:00,919 Speaker 1: they're twelve. Twelve nailed it, So why don't he get 52 00:03:00,960 --> 00:03:04,480 Speaker 1: into it? And we'll start with the shootout at the 53 00:03:04,560 --> 00:03:07,639 Speaker 1: super Dome. Drew Brees tied an NFL record with seven 54 00:03:07,680 --> 00:03:10,760 Speaker 1: touchdown passes, and Kai four Bath hit a fifty two 55 00:03:10,840 --> 00:03:13,760 Speaker 1: yard field goal as time expired, lifting the Saints to 56 00:03:13,919 --> 00:03:17,280 Speaker 1: a oh my god, fifty two to forty nine win 57 00:03:17,400 --> 00:03:19,960 Speaker 1: over the New York Giants, and, as as I said, 58 00:03:20,000 --> 00:03:23,600 Speaker 1: one of the great shootouts in recent NFL history, a 59 00:03:23,680 --> 00:03:27,880 Speaker 1: game that on two occasions the Saints went up fourteen points, 60 00:03:27,919 --> 00:03:29,800 Speaker 1: only to see the Giants come all the way back. 61 00:03:30,320 --> 00:03:32,760 Speaker 1: The Giants actually took a lead in the fourth quarter 62 00:03:32,800 --> 00:03:35,600 Speaker 1: on a pick six. Um It wasn't even I was 63 00:03:35,600 --> 00:03:37,680 Speaker 1: gonna say one of Drew Brees rare mistakes in the 64 00:03:37,680 --> 00:03:39,520 Speaker 1: game that that wasn't on him. It was a It 65 00:03:39,640 --> 00:03:41,960 Speaker 1: was a catch in a strip that led to the 66 00:03:42,440 --> 00:03:45,720 Speaker 1: fumble recovery. It wasn't even a pick six recovered. Nailed 67 00:03:45,720 --> 00:03:48,520 Speaker 1: it again, Giants in the league. But then here comes 68 00:03:48,520 --> 00:03:51,080 Speaker 1: the Saints one more time. C J. Spiller touchdown catch. 69 00:03:51,640 --> 00:03:54,880 Speaker 1: That's number six for touchdown passes or seven. And then 70 00:03:54,880 --> 00:03:59,640 Speaker 1: the winner comes Greg on a punt punt return face 71 00:03:59,720 --> 00:04:02,480 Speaker 1: mask drills the fifty two yard or in same game 72 00:04:02,520 --> 00:04:06,839 Speaker 1: with the Superdome. The Saints alive, so alive, we bury them. 73 00:04:06,840 --> 00:04:09,480 Speaker 1: We four, They've won three in a row. Their schedule 74 00:04:09,600 --> 00:04:12,880 Speaker 1: is easy street. Uh. Moving forward, I remember we threw 75 00:04:12,920 --> 00:04:15,160 Speaker 1: out that idea after they won that Thursday night game, 76 00:04:15,200 --> 00:04:17,080 Speaker 1: and we we kind of poo pooed it. And now 77 00:04:17,120 --> 00:04:19,240 Speaker 1: you look at them. Their offense has looked like the 78 00:04:19,279 --> 00:04:21,599 Speaker 1: Saints offense for the last couple of weeks. You've seen 79 00:04:21,640 --> 00:04:24,920 Speaker 1: this building. Now the Giants defense and Steve Spagnolo. They 80 00:04:24,920 --> 00:04:27,800 Speaker 1: have no pass rush, they can't do anything, so that 81 00:04:27,839 --> 00:04:30,320 Speaker 1: should be taken into account. But you said, you know, 82 00:04:30,520 --> 00:04:32,240 Speaker 1: maybe this is one of the great shootouts in the NFL. 83 00:04:32,240 --> 00:04:34,880 Speaker 1: Street there's no doubt, the most passing touchdowns in a 84 00:04:34,960 --> 00:04:37,160 Speaker 1: single game ever. You know, Drew Brees tied the single 85 00:04:37,839 --> 00:04:40,800 Speaker 1: single mark and they broke the combined mark. Eli, Manny 86 00:04:40,839 --> 00:04:43,080 Speaker 1: and Drew Brees together. Eli meant, what happened with Eli 87 00:04:43,120 --> 00:04:45,760 Speaker 1: should not be lost. Three fifty yards over three d 88 00:04:45,839 --> 00:04:49,320 Speaker 1: fifth yards, six touchdowns himself a career high mark. Well, 89 00:04:49,360 --> 00:04:50,520 Speaker 1: I mean, and it was I think it was a 90 00:04:50,520 --> 00:04:52,560 Speaker 1: week ago on Sunday night when I was saying, you know, 91 00:04:52,600 --> 00:04:56,160 Speaker 1: the Saints defense is coming around, and maybe it's time 92 00:04:56,200 --> 00:04:58,360 Speaker 1: for us to realize that it took Rob Ryan time 93 00:04:58,400 --> 00:05:01,279 Speaker 1: to get his young players involve. Well, forget about it. 94 00:05:01,320 --> 00:05:03,440 Speaker 1: I mean, you've just given up forty nine points. But 95 00:05:03,480 --> 00:05:06,919 Speaker 1: it's also sometimes these weird shootout games have nothing to 96 00:05:07,000 --> 00:05:09,640 Speaker 1: almost do with who the teams are. They just they 97 00:05:09,720 --> 00:05:11,880 Speaker 1: kind of unfold this way. In this case, with the 98 00:05:11,880 --> 00:05:13,719 Speaker 1: way the Saints have been played all year, it does. 99 00:05:13,880 --> 00:05:16,200 Speaker 1: And the Giant, I mean, these are the worst defenses 100 00:05:16,200 --> 00:05:18,320 Speaker 1: in the league, so it makes sense that that's what 101 00:05:18,360 --> 00:05:20,040 Speaker 1: I want to know. Last year, when the Steelers and 102 00:05:20,120 --> 00:05:21,880 Speaker 1: Colts had that great shoot out, it was the best 103 00:05:21,960 --> 00:05:25,400 Speaker 1: quarterbacks game I'd ever seen. Was this great quarterbacking or 104 00:05:25,440 --> 00:05:27,880 Speaker 1: the two worst secondaries in the NFL, because that's what 105 00:05:27,960 --> 00:05:31,039 Speaker 1: the secondaries have been so far this year. It's hard 106 00:05:31,040 --> 00:05:32,720 Speaker 1: to say, I mean, but you I don't want to 107 00:05:32,720 --> 00:05:35,400 Speaker 1: take credit away from Drew Brees what he did or 108 00:05:35,400 --> 00:05:37,200 Speaker 1: what Eli did. I mean it was there was a 109 00:05:37,240 --> 00:05:40,200 Speaker 1: point in this game where it was probably midway through 110 00:05:40,240 --> 00:05:43,320 Speaker 1: the third quarter, where they had combined nine touchdown passes 111 00:05:43,600 --> 00:05:47,760 Speaker 1: and seven incompletions. So, yeah, there's some terrible defense here, 112 00:05:47,760 --> 00:05:49,880 Speaker 1: but these are also and I know West You're not 113 00:05:49,880 --> 00:05:51,440 Speaker 1: going to hear it, but I'm gonna say these are 114 00:05:51,440 --> 00:05:56,760 Speaker 1: two Hall of Fame quarterbacks forming an incredible level in 115 00:05:56,839 --> 00:05:59,000 Speaker 1: a in a big stage and bringing the best out 116 00:05:59,000 --> 00:06:01,520 Speaker 1: of each other. Um as far as I had an 117 00:06:01,520 --> 00:06:03,680 Speaker 1: idea also right around the time I saw the staff 118 00:06:03,720 --> 00:06:06,640 Speaker 1: that nine touchdowns, the seven and completions that this should 119 00:06:06,640 --> 00:06:10,240 Speaker 1: have been a loser goes to Canada match between Steve Spagnola, 120 00:06:10,320 --> 00:06:14,600 Speaker 1: the Giants defensive coordinator, Rob Ryan the Staints defensive coordinator, 121 00:06:14,800 --> 00:06:17,840 Speaker 1: and Canada being the home of a CFL team where 122 00:06:17,839 --> 00:06:20,200 Speaker 1: they could be a linebackers coach. Sure, I think that fits. 123 00:06:20,240 --> 00:06:22,080 Speaker 1: I mean it's fitting for Rob Ryan at this point, 124 00:06:22,080 --> 00:06:24,760 Speaker 1: I'd give him that award. Vince McMahon was the commissioner 125 00:06:24,800 --> 00:06:27,880 Speaker 1: that would happened. How about Sean Payton just putting it 126 00:06:28,040 --> 00:06:32,080 Speaker 1: to his old charge, Steve Spagnola. I mean people don't remember. 127 00:06:33,040 --> 00:06:36,280 Speaker 1: I'm just saying people don't remember this thieve Spagnolo era 128 00:06:37,960 --> 00:06:40,919 Speaker 1: because it was a disaster and he left there not 129 00:06:41,279 --> 00:06:45,160 Speaker 1: a well liked guy, necessarily by his players or by 130 00:06:45,279 --> 00:06:48,280 Speaker 1: his ex boss, and to put something on him like that. 131 00:06:51,040 --> 00:06:54,520 Speaker 1: Basically super Bowl forty two never happened because of this game. 132 00:06:54,640 --> 00:06:57,720 Speaker 1: This This game provided more joy I think to the 133 00:06:57,800 --> 00:06:59,760 Speaker 1: fans in New Orleans and the Thames that they expected 134 00:06:59,760 --> 00:07:02,040 Speaker 1: to get from this entire season. These are two teams 135 00:07:02,080 --> 00:07:04,359 Speaker 1: that if the you know, playoffs started now, like the 136 00:07:04,400 --> 00:07:06,440 Speaker 1: Saints are in the mix and the Giants are still 137 00:07:06,520 --> 00:07:09,040 Speaker 1: leading their division, just shows you how mediocre the NFC 138 00:07:09,200 --> 00:07:10,840 Speaker 1: is at the bottom. I got to deliver a couple 139 00:07:10,880 --> 00:07:13,080 Speaker 1: more stats about this game, so it's a great all 140 00:07:13,160 --> 00:07:16,280 Speaker 1: times stats game. The game yielded more than one thousand 141 00:07:16,360 --> 00:07:21,120 Speaker 1: total yards, sixty feet downs and over eight hundred yards passing. 142 00:07:21,400 --> 00:07:24,440 Speaker 1: This is like Mark, you versed your brother in super 143 00:07:24,440 --> 00:07:26,680 Speaker 1: Tech Mobile in ninety two. No, not at all. I 144 00:07:26,680 --> 00:07:29,080 Speaker 1: would destroy him regularly and he would he would attest 145 00:07:29,080 --> 00:07:31,440 Speaker 1: to that. I mean, I was kind of just a 146 00:07:31,520 --> 00:07:33,640 Speaker 1: general statement, but we can get it. I was else. 147 00:07:33,760 --> 00:07:35,960 Speaker 1: That was one thing I did well in life was technoballs. 148 00:07:36,080 --> 00:07:38,600 Speaker 1: You play with the Browns, I'll play with any team 149 00:07:38,600 --> 00:07:41,600 Speaker 1: I wanted. I wanted thirty two team championship with the 150 00:07:41,600 --> 00:07:43,920 Speaker 1: Browns with a couple of neighbors. And this was a 151 00:07:44,840 --> 00:07:47,200 Speaker 1: Browns team went three and thirteen in real life, So 152 00:07:47,480 --> 00:07:50,000 Speaker 1: that's coaching. We used to have tournaments where we would 153 00:07:50,000 --> 00:07:55,440 Speaker 1: have offensive and defensive coordinators. We're sounding like, that's so funny. 154 00:07:55,480 --> 00:07:57,400 Speaker 1: We're sounding like the guys that used to talk about 155 00:07:57,400 --> 00:08:00,600 Speaker 1: Strata matic. Now, yeah, when you talk about like anys 156 00:08:00,680 --> 00:08:03,320 Speaker 1: Nintendo entertainment system, you brought us there. I did, and 157 00:08:03,320 --> 00:08:05,520 Speaker 1: it was my fault. Super Tech Mobile was a great game. 158 00:08:05,560 --> 00:08:07,480 Speaker 1: So yeah, I mean, what do we What was that? 159 00:08:07,680 --> 00:08:08,840 Speaker 1: I was just gonna say a good call on the 160 00:08:09,080 --> 00:08:11,240 Speaker 1: big Odell Beckham game. Tobe. Wasn't that one of the 161 00:08:11,720 --> 00:08:14,080 Speaker 1: headlines from the future going. He actually was better than 162 00:08:14,280 --> 00:08:17,160 Speaker 1: I predicted two touchdowns and two hundred yards. He actually 163 00:08:17,200 --> 00:08:19,000 Speaker 1: only got a hundred and thirty yards, but he had 164 00:08:19,000 --> 00:08:21,720 Speaker 1: three touchdowns. He looked a hundred percent in Mark. I 165 00:08:21,760 --> 00:08:23,240 Speaker 1: have to I'm gonna put it in the end Around 166 00:08:23,280 --> 00:08:25,200 Speaker 1: this week, if for no other reason, just to make 167 00:08:25,200 --> 00:08:27,720 Speaker 1: sure you see it, um, because I know you read 168 00:08:27,760 --> 00:08:30,320 Speaker 1: the end Around every week religiously with on a Friday 169 00:08:30,320 --> 00:08:35,680 Speaker 1: afternoon read it. The Fox telecast showed his pregame exercise routine, 170 00:08:36,000 --> 00:08:38,600 Speaker 1: which now you know he obviously knows the cameras on him. 171 00:08:38,679 --> 00:08:41,120 Speaker 1: At one point he did a forward role in the 172 00:08:41,240 --> 00:08:43,440 Speaker 1: end zone and then came up pretending to be shooting 173 00:08:43,480 --> 00:08:47,040 Speaker 1: a gun like a detective and like a seventies uh 174 00:08:47,320 --> 00:08:50,040 Speaker 1: television series. I mean, listen, I think we all agree 175 00:08:50,080 --> 00:08:53,560 Speaker 1: that he's an absolutely phenomenal player and in growing and 176 00:08:53,600 --> 00:08:56,640 Speaker 1: growingly tedious with every week. Signetti, I'm parting you up. 177 00:08:57,720 --> 00:09:01,640 Speaker 1: Beckham Jr. Signetia would love to have O'Dell Beckham Jr. 178 00:09:01,720 --> 00:09:03,760 Speaker 1: Right now. So what I mean, are either of these 179 00:09:03,760 --> 00:09:05,280 Speaker 1: teams is going to be in the playoffs. I'll just 180 00:09:05,400 --> 00:09:07,600 Speaker 1: throw it out there right now, because both teams are 181 00:09:07,640 --> 00:09:10,120 Speaker 1: still in the Saints are now in legitimate good position 182 00:09:10,400 --> 00:09:12,160 Speaker 1: to have a shot at this or four and four 183 00:09:12,360 --> 00:09:14,560 Speaker 1: to make a run at the wild card potentially, and 184 00:09:14,600 --> 00:09:16,880 Speaker 1: the Giants at four and four, they're still like right 185 00:09:16,880 --> 00:09:18,520 Speaker 1: in the mix of the NFC NFC East. But we 186 00:09:18,520 --> 00:09:20,080 Speaker 1: don't West. We don't think either of these teams are 187 00:09:20,160 --> 00:09:23,280 Speaker 1: very good, right, I mean, they're both mediocre, but I 188 00:09:23,280 --> 00:09:26,160 Speaker 1: think Greg, you know, Greg mentioned it earlier, the NFC 189 00:09:26,240 --> 00:09:30,440 Speaker 1: so mediocre throughout really, then FC is the stronger conference 190 00:09:30,520 --> 00:09:33,240 Speaker 1: right now. Cowboys were loving this game. It's another another 191 00:09:33,320 --> 00:09:35,959 Speaker 1: loss where just the winner of the NFC East doesn't 192 00:09:35,960 --> 00:09:38,000 Speaker 1: look like they're gonna get more than nine wins this year. 193 00:09:38,000 --> 00:09:40,000 Speaker 1: At least the Cowboys can feel like, Okay, we're in 194 00:09:40,040 --> 00:09:41,839 Speaker 1: it for another week, you know what. I don't want 195 00:09:41,840 --> 00:09:43,280 Speaker 1: to hear that with the Cowboys, and we'll get to 196 00:09:43,320 --> 00:09:45,480 Speaker 1: them later. But you can't lose like nine games in 197 00:09:45,520 --> 00:09:47,160 Speaker 1: aro own be like, hey, I'm feeling pretty good about 198 00:09:47,200 --> 00:09:50,200 Speaker 1: the chances. At a certain point, you stink, Yeah, they stink. 199 00:09:50,600 --> 00:09:53,559 Speaker 1: All right. Let's move on now to a big a 200 00:09:53,720 --> 00:09:58,840 Speaker 1: f C North showdown the Cincinnati Bengals the Pittsburgh Steelers. 201 00:09:58,920 --> 00:10:02,160 Speaker 1: Heinz Field, We talked about this on Thursday, Greg. If 202 00:10:02,200 --> 00:10:05,040 Speaker 1: the Steelers couldn't win this game, a C North is over, 203 00:10:05,800 --> 00:10:08,320 Speaker 1: it is. Andy Dalton took off a pair of fourth 204 00:10:08,400 --> 00:10:11,440 Speaker 1: quarter picks, hitting a J. Green for the go ahead score. 205 00:10:11,920 --> 00:10:14,040 Speaker 1: The Bengals at the end of the game sixteen ten 206 00:10:14,120 --> 00:10:17,200 Speaker 1: win over the Steelers West. The Bengals just locked up 207 00:10:17,240 --> 00:10:20,240 Speaker 1: the a f C North and the Steelers have lost 208 00:10:20,320 --> 00:10:22,800 Speaker 1: Levy on Bell the even bigger story. I don't think 209 00:10:22,800 --> 00:10:26,000 Speaker 1: it's mathematically over, but yeah, I think essentially the f 210 00:10:26,120 --> 00:10:28,480 Speaker 1: C North belongs to the Bengals, and you have to 211 00:10:28,520 --> 00:10:31,680 Speaker 1: admire their ability to to kind of withstand the pressure 212 00:10:31,720 --> 00:10:34,040 Speaker 1: that the Steelers brought. For the first time all year, 213 00:10:34,120 --> 00:10:36,120 Speaker 1: the Bengals offensive line lost the battle of the line 214 00:10:36,120 --> 00:10:39,360 Speaker 1: of scrimmage. The Steelers got consistent heat on Dandy Dalton 215 00:10:40,040 --> 00:10:42,760 Speaker 1: and they didn't do much for three quarters. And then 216 00:10:42,800 --> 00:10:45,679 Speaker 1: when the game was on the line, Dalton responded after 217 00:10:45,760 --> 00:10:48,080 Speaker 1: throwing two fourth quarter picks and led the game winning 218 00:10:48,160 --> 00:10:51,319 Speaker 1: drive similar to what he did against Baltimore where it 219 00:10:51,400 --> 00:10:53,439 Speaker 1: was really his worst moment of the year and then 220 00:10:53,440 --> 00:10:55,600 Speaker 1: he ends up driving for the game winner. He did 221 00:10:55,600 --> 00:10:58,360 Speaker 1: it here today. And yet all of this as great 222 00:10:58,360 --> 00:11:01,160 Speaker 1: a win as it was for Cincinnati and tough as 223 00:11:01,000 --> 00:11:04,120 Speaker 1: is for Pittsburgh. It seems secondary to them losing levy 224 00:11:04,160 --> 00:11:06,080 Speaker 1: On Bell for the season. Just as we're going up 225 00:11:06,120 --> 00:11:09,080 Speaker 1: to tape this, Ian Rappaport reports he's gonna he has 226 00:11:09,080 --> 00:11:12,440 Speaker 1: a severely torn mc L and he is expected to 227 00:11:12,520 --> 00:11:15,040 Speaker 1: miss the season. And that is just a brutal loss. 228 00:11:15,240 --> 00:11:17,800 Speaker 1: And that doesn't sound good when when the insiders are 229 00:11:17,800 --> 00:11:19,880 Speaker 1: getting the word that it's not just the terror of 230 00:11:19,880 --> 00:11:22,680 Speaker 1: your mc L, a severe tear. I mean that sounds 231 00:11:22,720 --> 00:11:25,000 Speaker 1: like a long rehab process. Will probably he's gonna end 232 00:11:25,080 --> 00:11:27,840 Speaker 1: up on I, R and and West. I ask you, 233 00:11:28,360 --> 00:11:30,880 Speaker 1: is this a crushing loss for the Steelers in the 234 00:11:30,920 --> 00:11:33,520 Speaker 1: sense that they're no longer a title contender without levy 235 00:11:33,600 --> 00:11:36,319 Speaker 1: On Bell. I believe that to be the case, because 236 00:11:36,360 --> 00:11:40,079 Speaker 1: I believe as great as Todd Gurley is, levy On 237 00:11:40,120 --> 00:11:42,480 Speaker 1: Bill is probably the best all around running back in football. 238 00:11:42,760 --> 00:11:45,440 Speaker 1: He's so patient, he has such great vision, such a 239 00:11:45,440 --> 00:11:48,360 Speaker 1: great receiver. And then D'Angel Williams is all right, I 240 00:11:48,360 --> 00:11:51,920 Speaker 1: mean savage five point five yards per carry in situations 241 00:11:51,920 --> 00:11:54,480 Speaker 1: where levy On Bell has been unavailable this year, so 242 00:11:54,520 --> 00:11:56,440 Speaker 1: he's a good backup as fur as backups go. But 243 00:11:56,760 --> 00:12:00,200 Speaker 1: Leby on Bell is just so dynamic. Then again, just 244 00:12:00,280 --> 00:12:03,520 Speaker 1: thinking about this game, like everyone I expected, you know, 245 00:12:03,559 --> 00:12:07,600 Speaker 1: Ben Roethlisberger's back. This isn't an easy matchup, but they're 246 00:12:07,640 --> 00:12:10,439 Speaker 1: gonna score some points. Again, I mean, they scored ten 247 00:12:10,480 --> 00:12:13,760 Speaker 1: points today. It's a little unfair. They had a really 248 00:12:13,800 --> 00:12:16,520 Speaker 1: methodical opening drive touchdown that seemed a little too easy 249 00:12:16,559 --> 00:12:19,400 Speaker 1: for them, and the life went out of the stadium 250 00:12:19,400 --> 00:12:22,120 Speaker 1: when Levan Bell got injured. They just couldn't do anything 251 00:12:22,120 --> 00:12:24,280 Speaker 1: on offense after that. I mean, also, you're asking big 252 00:12:24,320 --> 00:12:26,400 Speaker 1: Ben after coming off a knee injury and not that 253 00:12:26,440 --> 00:12:28,800 Speaker 1: he rushed back, but there's no way is he a 254 00:12:28,880 --> 00:12:32,160 Speaker 1: hundred didn't agility. It's gonna take some time. I I 255 00:12:32,160 --> 00:12:35,360 Speaker 1: don't count the Steelers at all out of another murky 256 00:12:35,440 --> 00:12:38,040 Speaker 1: a f C playoff race, and it is it feels 257 00:12:38,080 --> 00:12:39,559 Speaker 1: like when we say that a f C North is 258 00:12:39,640 --> 00:12:42,480 Speaker 1: sealed and it's November one, that weird things happen in 259 00:12:42,480 --> 00:12:44,960 Speaker 1: that division. But there's a lot of dumb predictions where 260 00:12:44,960 --> 00:12:47,760 Speaker 1: we have. But the Bengals would have to comprehensively crumble 261 00:12:48,120 --> 00:12:50,520 Speaker 1: and the trip the Triplets in Pittsburgh, which I think 262 00:12:50,600 --> 00:12:52,640 Speaker 1: is potentially the best in the league have been on 263 00:12:52,679 --> 00:12:55,200 Speaker 1: the field together for what about twenty five minutes this season, 264 00:12:55,600 --> 00:12:57,560 Speaker 1: and they're not not gonna happen. It's not gonna happen again. 265 00:12:57,960 --> 00:13:00,280 Speaker 1: You know, let's let's talk about the Bengals with here, 266 00:13:00,280 --> 00:13:02,559 Speaker 1: because now they're seven and oh, this is a game. 267 00:13:02,600 --> 00:13:04,960 Speaker 1: I think a lot of people expected them to get 268 00:13:04,960 --> 00:13:07,240 Speaker 1: picked off here and once again they don't. And maybe 269 00:13:07,240 --> 00:13:11,800 Speaker 1: even uh more reason for optimism is Andy Dalton did 270 00:13:11,800 --> 00:13:13,920 Speaker 1: not play a great game. This is probably his worst 271 00:13:13,960 --> 00:13:16,000 Speaker 1: game of the season. Definitely was his worst game. And 272 00:13:16,080 --> 00:13:18,760 Speaker 1: yet instead of a full on crumble west he had, 273 00:13:18,840 --> 00:13:21,120 Speaker 1: he led them down the field and got the game 274 00:13:21,160 --> 00:13:23,400 Speaker 1: winning touchdown. So even in the day that was a 275 00:13:23,440 --> 00:13:27,760 Speaker 1: down day statistically, still progress for the Flaming Ginger Man. 276 00:13:27,880 --> 00:13:29,880 Speaker 1: I would not call this progress for Andy Daltons. I 277 00:13:29,920 --> 00:13:33,200 Speaker 1: admire the team's resilience, but this wasn't a good performance 278 00:13:33,200 --> 00:13:35,079 Speaker 1: by him. This was a good performance by a j 279 00:13:35,200 --> 00:13:38,840 Speaker 1: Green in the defense. And maybe they get a little 280 00:13:38,840 --> 00:13:40,760 Speaker 1: help from the running game in the offensive line, and 281 00:13:40,760 --> 00:13:42,560 Speaker 1: that just speaks to the point that this is a 282 00:13:42,559 --> 00:13:45,520 Speaker 1: team that Andy Dalton's carried them some weeks, but it's 283 00:13:45,559 --> 00:13:48,440 Speaker 1: a complete team in the defense, I think quietly gotten 284 00:13:48,440 --> 00:13:51,040 Speaker 1: a little bit better each and everything this season. They 285 00:13:51,040 --> 00:13:53,760 Speaker 1: got on to his perfect back today for base packages 286 00:13:53,800 --> 00:13:56,120 Speaker 1: and had a huge impact. He's the guy who knocked 287 00:13:56,200 --> 00:13:57,560 Speaker 1: Livy on Bill out of the game. And I know 288 00:13:57,600 --> 00:13:59,680 Speaker 1: it's a division game, but they get the Browns on Thursday, 289 00:13:59,760 --> 00:14:03,400 Speaker 1: they at the Texans at home. After that, they's two wins. 290 00:14:03,480 --> 00:14:07,760 Speaker 1: They are looking at most likely nine and oh heading 291 00:14:07,800 --> 00:14:10,839 Speaker 1: into deep November, which is just it's an amazing thing. 292 00:14:11,080 --> 00:14:13,960 Speaker 1: West Uh, your favorite day of the year. Everyone knows. 293 00:14:14,040 --> 00:14:17,640 Speaker 1: It's the first wild card game on a Saturday in 294 00:14:17,800 --> 00:14:22,160 Speaker 1: January known as West Abens because it's always it's seemingly 295 00:14:22,200 --> 00:14:25,840 Speaker 1: always the Bengals in that game getting picked off. You 296 00:14:25,920 --> 00:14:28,640 Speaker 1: go to a local bar and you you drink and 297 00:14:28,680 --> 00:14:33,400 Speaker 1: you celebrate. Uh. The p scale, Now here's the scale. 298 00:14:33,640 --> 00:14:37,600 Speaker 1: One dry pants, you're a grown up, no issues. You're 299 00:14:37,600 --> 00:14:40,640 Speaker 1: feeling you gotta go to the bathroom. Go to the bathroom. 300 00:14:40,640 --> 00:14:44,320 Speaker 1: Ten your pants are soaked with pe. All your underpants 301 00:14:44,320 --> 00:14:46,920 Speaker 1: are so went through your underpants into your regular pants. 302 00:14:46,960 --> 00:14:49,160 Speaker 1: You gotta go change your clothes because you're soaked with pete. 303 00:14:49,160 --> 00:14:51,080 Speaker 1: Where are you standing? You know, last time you checked 304 00:14:51,080 --> 00:14:53,040 Speaker 1: out was about a nine point eight. I think I'm 305 00:14:53,080 --> 00:14:56,080 Speaker 1: at about an eight point four. Now, oh dropped, How 306 00:14:56,240 --> 00:14:59,400 Speaker 1: is that possible? They weren't impressed. Of all, They're not 307 00:14:59,400 --> 00:15:01,720 Speaker 1: gonna be played on that first Saturday. If nothing else. 308 00:15:01,760 --> 00:15:04,080 Speaker 1: The West of this committee, you know, the Parent teacher 309 00:15:04,120 --> 00:15:06,880 Speaker 1: association that plans it, you know, bakes the cookies, does 310 00:15:06,920 --> 00:15:09,040 Speaker 1: all sorts of things. They're gonna have to meet and 311 00:15:09,080 --> 00:15:12,600 Speaker 1: officially move the holidays later. Well, I don't feel like 312 00:15:12,600 --> 00:15:14,560 Speaker 1: the Patriots are going to lose a game, and you 313 00:15:14,600 --> 00:15:17,360 Speaker 1: know that's a good point thousand thirteen Payton Manning showed 314 00:15:17,400 --> 00:15:20,120 Speaker 1: up Sunday night. So then you're saying you're county on 315 00:15:20,160 --> 00:15:22,120 Speaker 1: them being the three seed and they still play in 316 00:15:22,160 --> 00:15:24,200 Speaker 1: that game, that's fair and they get bombed out by 317 00:15:24,200 --> 00:15:29,560 Speaker 1: the six. The West, I feel like he's, you know, 318 00:15:29,760 --> 00:15:32,400 Speaker 1: kind of hoping more than using his football mind. He 319 00:15:32,440 --> 00:15:35,080 Speaker 1: doesn't need to worry about this holiday at all. There's 320 00:15:35,080 --> 00:15:37,920 Speaker 1: still three hundred and sixty three other days a year 321 00:15:37,960 --> 00:15:40,560 Speaker 1: that West could go to a local bar, and he will, 322 00:15:41,520 --> 00:15:44,240 Speaker 1: but none and Wes you'll explain to Mark, but there's 323 00:15:44,280 --> 00:15:47,480 Speaker 1: nothing quite as special as that off day on Saturday 324 00:15:47,480 --> 00:15:50,720 Speaker 1: watching his old Cincinnati team that he said, I don't 325 00:15:50,760 --> 00:15:53,280 Speaker 1: want you in my life anymore. Going up in Flames 326 00:15:53,280 --> 00:15:55,000 Speaker 1: a special day and if the day I've been able 327 00:15:55,000 --> 00:15:59,520 Speaker 1: to rely on for the past. Putting in the Bengals 328 00:15:59,600 --> 00:16:02,160 Speaker 1: on Saturday this time, this is a different Bengals team 329 00:16:02,160 --> 00:16:04,640 Speaker 1: than they were on Sunday morning last time. I think 330 00:16:04,720 --> 00:16:07,440 Speaker 1: I schedule around West of this at this point, like 331 00:16:07,520 --> 00:16:09,880 Speaker 1: West just gets that day off and he'll work the 332 00:16:09,920 --> 00:16:14,440 Speaker 1: other playoff day. It's totally preposterous, all right, Moving on, 333 00:16:14,520 --> 00:16:19,120 Speaker 1: Let's go down to Big d Russell Wilson, get clutch Russ, 334 00:16:19,280 --> 00:16:21,680 Speaker 1: danger Us they call him. And by the way, Russell Wilson, 335 00:16:22,480 --> 00:16:26,960 Speaker 1: I saw your Instagram page dressing up as Batman with 336 00:16:27,040 --> 00:16:30,840 Speaker 1: Sierra and renting out the Batmobile. Dude, get in control 337 00:16:30,880 --> 00:16:32,880 Speaker 1: of your situation. You don't need your woman running your 338 00:16:32,960 --> 00:16:35,480 Speaker 1: entire life. I'm sorry. By the way, t D, I 339 00:16:35,560 --> 00:16:37,600 Speaker 1: know you're not. You're shaking your head. I'm not even 340 00:16:37,880 --> 00:16:39,760 Speaker 1: I've never been a fan of that relationship. I think 341 00:16:39,760 --> 00:16:41,880 Speaker 1: it's weird. I think he's just trying too hard. And 342 00:16:41,960 --> 00:16:44,640 Speaker 1: that was that was that was dismal. Yeah, hold on, 343 00:16:44,960 --> 00:16:48,840 Speaker 1: he rented out the Batman. But it's a car, it's 344 00:16:48,840 --> 00:16:52,040 Speaker 1: a very it's a version of one batmobile. Just she's 345 00:16:52,080 --> 00:16:58,160 Speaker 1: in total control of the situation. Let's face it. Russell 346 00:16:58,200 --> 00:17:01,080 Speaker 1: Wilson let a clutch sixteen played drive, setting up the 347 00:17:01,120 --> 00:17:04,280 Speaker 1: game winning field goal in the Seahawks sent the Cowboys 348 00:17:04,280 --> 00:17:06,480 Speaker 1: to their fifth straight loss, this time the thirteen to 349 00:17:06,560 --> 00:17:11,639 Speaker 1: twelve set back at Jeral World West. Have the Seahawks 350 00:17:11,680 --> 00:17:15,040 Speaker 1: started their expected surge or do you still see problems 351 00:17:15,080 --> 00:17:19,560 Speaker 1: for the defending NFC champions. It's a tough question because 352 00:17:19,560 --> 00:17:22,880 Speaker 1: they did not play well. They had their usual litany 353 00:17:23,040 --> 00:17:26,840 Speaker 1: a fourth quarter misques. Uh. It really started late in 354 00:17:26,840 --> 00:17:29,080 Speaker 1: the third quarter when Greg Hardy had a deflected passing 355 00:17:29,119 --> 00:17:32,159 Speaker 1: an interception. They get a field goal blocked, they have 356 00:17:32,200 --> 00:17:35,840 Speaker 1: ill time penalties, they have they have a fumble. It's 357 00:17:35,880 --> 00:17:38,800 Speaker 1: just Marshawn Lynch runs out of bounds. He's a veteran. 358 00:17:38,800 --> 00:17:40,520 Speaker 1: He should have stayed in bound to kill the clock, 359 00:17:41,000 --> 00:17:43,359 Speaker 1: and they they escaped to be because Matt Castle was 360 00:17:43,400 --> 00:17:49,320 Speaker 1: a horrible quarterback. That end sequence between that Mack Castle 361 00:17:49,400 --> 00:17:51,280 Speaker 1: had in the game, which is probably you know, the 362 00:17:52,240 --> 00:17:54,280 Speaker 1: part of America that didn't watch the whole game ended 363 00:17:54,359 --> 00:17:57,359 Speaker 1: up watching that last sequence that was about as ugly 364 00:17:57,680 --> 00:18:00,240 Speaker 1: a four plays in a row as any quarterback could 365 00:18:00,280 --> 00:18:03,360 Speaker 1: have it. To the Seahawks credit, they clearly knew who 366 00:18:03,440 --> 00:18:06,040 Speaker 1: was quarterbacking against him when they decided to roll Russell 367 00:18:06,040 --> 00:18:09,080 Speaker 1: Wilson out for a play that would kill the clock 368 00:18:09,440 --> 00:18:12,440 Speaker 1: instead of throwing to the end zone. They just wanted 369 00:18:12,640 --> 00:18:14,640 Speaker 1: to leave Matt Castle with a minute instead of two 370 00:18:14,640 --> 00:18:17,720 Speaker 1: minutes for a field. Well, it was the play, okay, 371 00:18:17,720 --> 00:18:20,399 Speaker 1: So take us through that that sequence because it was 372 00:18:20,440 --> 00:18:22,520 Speaker 1: the rollout where he took the horrible sack, right, I 373 00:18:22,520 --> 00:18:25,880 Speaker 1: mean he held onto the ball forever a couple There 374 00:18:26,000 --> 00:18:29,000 Speaker 1: was the incomplete pass that they thought was a fumble 375 00:18:29,080 --> 00:18:33,000 Speaker 1: for a touchdown. Yes, the fourth down play was really 376 00:18:33,080 --> 00:18:35,640 Speaker 1: just Doug Free was beaten quickly. He couldn't have done 377 00:18:35,720 --> 00:18:37,479 Speaker 1: much about that, but it was just about as as 378 00:18:37,560 --> 00:18:39,720 Speaker 1: ugly as it gets after a performance. Were back. Castle 379 00:18:40,119 --> 00:18:41,879 Speaker 1: had a lot of nice throws the week before, but 380 00:18:41,960 --> 00:18:44,440 Speaker 1: this week Jerry Jones said after the game he thought 381 00:18:44,480 --> 00:18:47,200 Speaker 1: Matt Castle played well enough to win this game. He 382 00:18:47,280 --> 00:18:52,040 Speaker 1: said that four in the fourth quarter. Who said that? 383 00:18:52,080 --> 00:18:54,720 Speaker 1: He also said Brandon Waden is the most beautiful quarterback 384 00:18:54,760 --> 00:18:56,560 Speaker 1: in the end, I was gonna say, we gotta choose 385 00:18:56,560 --> 00:18:59,080 Speaker 1: our words carefully. This is an owner of a team. 386 00:18:59,080 --> 00:19:02,480 Speaker 1: But I will say, Shara at a certain point, everything 387 00:19:02,520 --> 00:19:05,600 Speaker 1: he says is completely out of touch with reality. I mean, 388 00:19:06,080 --> 00:19:09,560 Speaker 1: there's everything, whether it's been their offensive line or Brandon 389 00:19:09,600 --> 00:19:12,920 Speaker 1: Weeden or Matt Castle or every running back they for 390 00:19:13,080 --> 00:19:18,840 Speaker 1: every running back, it's basically it's but mcfannon is carrying 391 00:19:18,840 --> 00:19:22,800 Speaker 1: this team four yards rushing. I mean, you know I 392 00:19:22,800 --> 00:19:26,040 Speaker 1: I hear you. He's totaled thirteen yards, would have had 393 00:19:26,080 --> 00:19:28,440 Speaker 1: a hundred thirty eight if not for a stupid illegal 394 00:19:28,480 --> 00:19:32,119 Speaker 1: shift penalty second straight week. That he's really the entire 395 00:19:32,160 --> 00:19:35,480 Speaker 1: offense best three point two yards per carry player in 396 00:19:35,480 --> 00:19:37,440 Speaker 1: the league. It's hard to rush for more than three 397 00:19:37,480 --> 00:19:39,399 Speaker 1: yards of carry when the other team has no respect 398 00:19:39,400 --> 00:19:42,280 Speaker 1: for the quarterback. I am. I'm more surprised about the 399 00:19:42,320 --> 00:19:44,720 Speaker 1: Seahawks offense in this game, and the Cowboys defense is 400 00:19:44,720 --> 00:19:47,040 Speaker 1: getting better and better each week. But I thought the 401 00:19:47,040 --> 00:19:50,440 Speaker 1: Seahawks offense had had possibly turned a corner against San Francisco, 402 00:19:50,600 --> 00:19:52,320 Speaker 1: and I thought Marshall Lynch and looked a little better 403 00:19:52,320 --> 00:19:54,240 Speaker 1: at the previous two weeks. I think it's concerning you 404 00:19:54,320 --> 00:19:57,000 Speaker 1: only put thirteen points up and Russell Wilson was lucky 405 00:19:57,040 --> 00:19:58,720 Speaker 1: he only had one pick in this game, he could 406 00:19:58,760 --> 00:20:01,639 Speaker 1: have had a couple more on some errand throws. They 407 00:20:01,680 --> 00:20:04,920 Speaker 1: also could have had twenty points pretty easily, and an 408 00:20:04,920 --> 00:20:07,800 Speaker 1: offensive line that came under a lot of fire didn't 409 00:20:07,840 --> 00:20:10,520 Speaker 1: allow a single secon it west. How did Dez Bryant 410 00:20:10,560 --> 00:20:13,880 Speaker 1: look in his return? He clearly wasn't like a peak 411 00:20:13,960 --> 00:20:17,000 Speaker 1: form and Richard Sherman shadowed him around the field as 412 00:20:17,000 --> 00:20:21,680 Speaker 1: he's been doing against top receivers. Sherman easily won that battle. Uh. 413 00:20:21,880 --> 00:20:24,680 Speaker 1: To be fair to Daz, Matt Castle was throwing the 414 00:20:24,720 --> 00:20:28,119 Speaker 1: passes and he said as much after the game. I 415 00:20:28,119 --> 00:20:30,560 Speaker 1: mean he didn't he didn't call mac Castle out, but 416 00:20:30,600 --> 00:20:36,919 Speaker 1: he acknowledged that the vast adjustment is ridiculous. And by 417 00:20:36,920 --> 00:20:39,400 Speaker 1: the way, you can watch these Sunday shows on YouTube 418 00:20:39,600 --> 00:20:43,280 Speaker 1: under the NFL playlist. Just throwing that out there, shameless plug. 419 00:20:43,600 --> 00:20:44,840 Speaker 1: There was a lot of buzz. I didn't get a 420 00:20:44,920 --> 00:20:46,480 Speaker 1: chance to watch this game too closely, but a lot 421 00:20:46,480 --> 00:20:49,879 Speaker 1: of buzz on Twitter. Richard Sherman playing at an extremely 422 00:20:49,960 --> 00:20:52,760 Speaker 1: high level, whether the quarterback was good or not, but 423 00:20:52,880 --> 00:20:55,520 Speaker 1: him shadowing now the best receivers in the league. Maybe 424 00:20:55,520 --> 00:20:58,200 Speaker 1: that's the last piece of the equation when talking about 425 00:20:58,240 --> 00:21:00,239 Speaker 1: who's the best corner in the league. Earl M has 426 00:21:00,240 --> 00:21:02,720 Speaker 1: tweeted after or said after the game. I've never seen 427 00:21:02,720 --> 00:21:06,280 Speaker 1: a nerd bawl out like that. NERD called Richard Sherman 428 00:21:06,320 --> 00:21:09,359 Speaker 1: a nerd. Four passes defense, and I believe one of 429 00:21:09,400 --> 00:21:12,639 Speaker 1: those catches was the first catch against someone Sherman was 430 00:21:12,680 --> 00:21:15,880 Speaker 1: covering in three games. Maybe you don't get a positive 431 00:21:16,200 --> 00:21:19,800 Speaker 1: from PFF all we can all have. Oh and no, 432 00:21:19,880 --> 00:21:24,040 Speaker 1: there's no way Richard Sherman orders UM dominoes on his phone, 433 00:21:24,760 --> 00:21:26,720 Speaker 1: of course not. I don't even know what you refer to. 434 00:21:26,800 --> 00:21:30,720 Speaker 1: Commercial that's on all the time, uh, in which he 435 00:21:31,040 --> 00:21:34,200 Speaker 1: you know he's ordering, he's putting the little pizza pizza modicon. 436 00:21:34,880 --> 00:21:37,000 Speaker 1: I want to go back into check check his feed 437 00:21:37,160 --> 00:21:41,800 Speaker 1: to just call out false advertising. He has never done that, 438 00:21:41,880 --> 00:21:47,320 Speaker 1: prossing out one more potential sponsor. We don't need them 439 00:21:48,160 --> 00:21:51,320 Speaker 1: smash cut to damage check doing like a backstroke through 440 00:21:51,359 --> 00:21:55,440 Speaker 1: Big Max and dollars falling upon him. Don't worry about 441 00:21:55,440 --> 00:22:01,639 Speaker 1: the round the NFL podcast and we are better. It's Sunday. 442 00:22:01,680 --> 00:22:05,840 Speaker 1: I'd bitterness. Let's move on the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. Oh man, 443 00:22:06,160 --> 00:22:09,640 Speaker 1: So they blew the big lead last week UM against 444 00:22:09,640 --> 00:22:11,600 Speaker 1: the Redskins, and they blew another one. Here they were 445 00:22:11,680 --> 00:22:14,480 Speaker 1: up twenty three against the Falcons. The Falcons come all 446 00:22:14,480 --> 00:22:17,000 Speaker 1: the way back, but in the end the Bucks finished. 447 00:22:17,000 --> 00:22:19,320 Speaker 1: This time in overtime. They kick a field goal then 448 00:22:19,359 --> 00:22:24,800 Speaker 1: hold on for a victory over the Falcons. Greg you 449 00:22:24,920 --> 00:22:28,560 Speaker 1: called this game the full Jamis Winston experience. It was 450 00:22:28,720 --> 00:22:31,200 Speaker 1: this season for him has been a lot of good. 451 00:22:31,840 --> 00:22:34,440 Speaker 1: It's been a lot of bad, and it's been enough 452 00:22:34,480 --> 00:22:36,280 Speaker 1: for you to believe he's going to have a good 453 00:22:36,320 --> 00:22:37,960 Speaker 1: future as a starter. And that was what you saw 454 00:22:38,000 --> 00:22:40,280 Speaker 1: in this game. You saw some ugly throws that should 455 00:22:40,280 --> 00:22:43,360 Speaker 1: have been intercepted. You also saw some plays, like an 456 00:22:43,359 --> 00:22:46,879 Speaker 1: overtime we're watching on YouTube, third down play to Charles Sims. 457 00:22:46,920 --> 00:22:48,880 Speaker 1: He has to complete that or elst the game's over. 458 00:22:49,080 --> 00:22:51,320 Speaker 1: Third and ten. He completes another past he moves the 459 00:22:51,320 --> 00:22:53,320 Speaker 1: ball down the field. Then you get to the goal line. 460 00:22:53,680 --> 00:22:55,760 Speaker 1: He has a potential game winner and he just short 461 00:22:55,840 --> 00:22:57,320 Speaker 1: arms it and so they kicked the field goal and 462 00:22:57,359 --> 00:22:59,359 Speaker 1: the game is not over quite then. So it was 463 00:22:59,440 --> 00:23:02,320 Speaker 1: good bad, had a little bit of everything. But I 464 00:23:02,400 --> 00:23:04,080 Speaker 1: like that he just keeps going out there. He makes 465 00:23:04,080 --> 00:23:06,320 Speaker 1: the Bucks fun to watch. That alone is a victory 466 00:23:06,400 --> 00:23:08,360 Speaker 1: that the Bucks are watchable. Oh, we did not think 467 00:23:08,400 --> 00:23:09,679 Speaker 1: that would be the case at all, And you know 468 00:23:09,720 --> 00:23:12,240 Speaker 1: you pointed it out Greg last week that against the Redskins, 469 00:23:12,280 --> 00:23:15,480 Speaker 1: had the game ended differently, the storyline would have been 470 00:23:15,480 --> 00:23:18,199 Speaker 1: Winston because he's put together a couple of it's not 471 00:23:18,280 --> 00:23:19,960 Speaker 1: the whole game. You're right, there's a couple of weird 472 00:23:19,960 --> 00:23:22,920 Speaker 1: things happening, but there is progress. I would be very encouraged. 473 00:23:23,000 --> 00:23:24,720 Speaker 1: I was a Bucks fan. I thought he was outstanding 474 00:23:24,760 --> 00:23:27,560 Speaker 1: a week ago. He was not outstanding. On Sunday, Matt 475 00:23:27,640 --> 00:23:30,160 Speaker 1: Ryan easily outplayed him. I'm not sure what to take 476 00:23:30,200 --> 00:23:33,000 Speaker 1: from this game because the Falcons had almost five hundred 477 00:23:33,080 --> 00:23:35,560 Speaker 1: yards of offense. Uh, they outgained the Bucks by a 478 00:23:35,560 --> 00:23:38,359 Speaker 1: couple of hundred yards. Matt Ryan was sinsa, you know, 479 00:23:38,400 --> 00:23:40,440 Speaker 1: really just Razor sharp the whole day. Like a lot 480 00:23:40,440 --> 00:23:43,000 Speaker 1: of people are against the Bucks defense, but they had. 481 00:23:43,040 --> 00:23:46,080 Speaker 1: They lost the turnover battle four to nothing. They lost 482 00:23:46,160 --> 00:23:48,960 Speaker 1: three fumbles in the first half tour. You know, one 483 00:23:49,000 --> 00:23:51,560 Speaker 1: was on a center exchange, one was on a bad snap. 484 00:23:51,600 --> 00:23:54,280 Speaker 1: It was just one was on a play where Julio 485 00:23:54,400 --> 00:23:56,440 Speaker 1: Jones just had the ball taken from him. So it's 486 00:23:56,480 --> 00:23:58,760 Speaker 1: just a flukey sort of lost for the Falcon. So 487 00:23:58,760 --> 00:24:01,280 Speaker 1: all the Falcons good luck from earlier and you're kind 488 00:24:01,280 --> 00:24:03,480 Speaker 1: of even doubt that was exactly what I was thinking 489 00:24:03,520 --> 00:24:06,280 Speaker 1: watching this game, that everything that went right for them 490 00:24:06,359 --> 00:24:07,960 Speaker 1: the rest of the season went wrong. It was just 491 00:24:08,000 --> 00:24:09,960 Speaker 1: a lot of unforced theres. They look like the better 492 00:24:10,520 --> 00:24:12,760 Speaker 1: you know we I think Mark, you brought it up earlier. 493 00:24:12,800 --> 00:24:17,280 Speaker 1: Today things changed so quickly. Things you assume in October 494 00:24:17,359 --> 00:24:19,840 Speaker 1: looks silly by the end of November. And there was 495 00:24:19,880 --> 00:24:22,040 Speaker 1: a time where we said, well, obviously that the Falcons 496 00:24:22,040 --> 00:24:23,840 Speaker 1: of the Panthers, we either win the division the other 497 00:24:23,880 --> 00:24:26,320 Speaker 1: takes the wild card. But are there any concerns that 498 00:24:26,520 --> 00:24:29,080 Speaker 1: the Falcons are a team that could really start to 499 00:24:29,119 --> 00:24:31,520 Speaker 1: slump into a situation where they could fall out of 500 00:24:31,520 --> 00:24:36,639 Speaker 1: the playoff mix. There's a concern their schedule is very favorable. 501 00:24:36,720 --> 00:24:39,960 Speaker 1: But I've thought all and coming up, and you know, 502 00:24:40,000 --> 00:24:43,639 Speaker 1: it's is cold Vikings Bucks. It's like it doesn't get 503 00:24:43,680 --> 00:24:46,000 Speaker 1: that much harder. I mean that that is harder. Some 504 00:24:46,040 --> 00:24:47,840 Speaker 1: of those games aren't easy, But they're a team. I 505 00:24:47,880 --> 00:24:51,720 Speaker 1: don't think you can count any game as well. They're 506 00:24:51,760 --> 00:24:53,840 Speaker 1: not They're not that talented on defense, they have no 507 00:24:53,960 --> 00:24:56,639 Speaker 1: pass rush, uh, and the passing game has been up 508 00:24:56,640 --> 00:24:59,479 Speaker 1: and down. The defense it plays well together, but it's 509 00:24:59,480 --> 00:25:01,960 Speaker 1: not a good There's always teams like that. Remember the 510 00:25:02,000 --> 00:25:05,680 Speaker 1: six and old Josh McDaniels Broncos, for he's running through 511 00:25:06,359 --> 00:25:09,440 Speaker 1: the mile high, pumping his fists after beating Belichick in 512 00:25:09,320 --> 00:25:11,040 Speaker 1: the in the in the Patriots, and then they fall 513 00:25:11,000 --> 00:25:13,680 Speaker 1: off a cliff. The difference with the Falcons, though, is 514 00:25:13,800 --> 00:25:16,439 Speaker 1: you've got a franchise quarterback and you have Julio Jones. 515 00:25:16,480 --> 00:25:19,760 Speaker 1: Like what we're they're good is not a fluke, that's true. 516 00:25:19,800 --> 00:25:22,160 Speaker 1: And Julio Jones, after some quiet games, had a hundred 517 00:25:22,200 --> 00:25:24,240 Speaker 1: and sixty two yards in this game in twelve catches. 518 00:25:24,560 --> 00:25:27,840 Speaker 1: Just in every single throw is the exact same fifteen 519 00:25:27,960 --> 00:25:30,080 Speaker 1: yard in breaking round to Julio Jones. And they just 520 00:25:30,119 --> 00:25:33,240 Speaker 1: couldn't stop at the whole game. Tomorrow a lot of 521 00:25:33,480 --> 00:25:36,359 Speaker 1: confluence of a lot of weird things happening tomorrow is 522 00:25:36,400 --> 00:25:40,119 Speaker 1: the two thousand fifteen NFL Draft, The season never happened. 523 00:25:40,160 --> 00:25:43,200 Speaker 1: Stay with me. You own the first pick in the draft. 524 00:25:43,600 --> 00:25:46,760 Speaker 1: Do you guys take Jamis Winston or Marcus Mariotta? Mark first? 525 00:25:46,920 --> 00:25:52,240 Speaker 1: Mariota Mariota Greg, come on, be a hero, be brave. 526 00:25:52,960 --> 00:25:55,640 Speaker 1: Side with Jamis. I'm gonna go with Winston because that's 527 00:25:55,640 --> 00:25:57,240 Speaker 1: what I thought we went into it, and now I've 528 00:25:57,280 --> 00:25:59,840 Speaker 1: seen enough to think I like. I like what I've seen. 529 00:26:00,480 --> 00:26:02,520 Speaker 1: He's a little The only thing that worries me is 530 00:26:02,560 --> 00:26:05,560 Speaker 1: just some passes, just misbelly. After Week one, though, I 531 00:26:05,600 --> 00:26:08,680 Speaker 1: thought Mariota would run away with the question you distasked. 532 00:26:08,720 --> 00:26:12,639 Speaker 1: And it's interesting where we are right now, absolutely moving on. 533 00:26:12,800 --> 00:26:17,600 Speaker 1: The International Series in London ended with a laughter as 534 00:26:17,640 --> 00:26:20,679 Speaker 1: the Kansas City Chiefs put the clown suit on the 535 00:26:20,720 --> 00:26:25,720 Speaker 1: Detroit Lions win at Wembley Stadium. Greg, the Lions committed 536 00:26:25,960 --> 00:26:29,080 Speaker 1: their worst sin sint yet in this last season. They 537 00:26:29,119 --> 00:26:32,679 Speaker 1: made Alex Smith look interesting. Well, it wasn't that interesting. 538 00:26:32,760 --> 00:26:36,600 Speaker 1: It was three. What they made is the Chiefs look 539 00:26:36,680 --> 00:26:39,959 Speaker 1: like a juggernaut. I mean, the Lions are so bad. 540 00:26:40,800 --> 00:26:43,400 Speaker 1: I just can't believe how bad they are. People want 541 00:26:43,400 --> 00:26:47,760 Speaker 1: to blame Joe Lombardi, fire everybody. The defense has gone 542 00:26:47,760 --> 00:26:50,200 Speaker 1: from a top five defense to a bottom five defense. 543 00:26:50,240 --> 00:26:53,439 Speaker 1: Alex Smith ran for seventy eight yards, almost all in 544 00:26:53,480 --> 00:26:57,000 Speaker 1: the first half. That's interesting. That is interesting. He was sharp. 545 00:26:57,080 --> 00:26:58,879 Speaker 1: He's been sharp. A couple of weeks. If you had 546 00:26:58,920 --> 00:27:00,479 Speaker 1: only watched the last two weeks, so you would think 547 00:27:00,480 --> 00:27:02,400 Speaker 1: the Chiefs are a playoff team. I mean, they dominated 548 00:27:02,400 --> 00:27:04,360 Speaker 1: the Steelers. I know it was Landry Jones, but their 549 00:27:04,359 --> 00:27:07,160 Speaker 1: defense was great and the offense really controlled that game. 550 00:27:07,160 --> 00:27:09,159 Speaker 1: And then this game was an even bigger laugh for 551 00:27:09,240 --> 00:27:11,880 Speaker 1: the Lions. They're they're a miserable wreck. The best thing 552 00:27:11,920 --> 00:27:13,879 Speaker 1: they can do, the best thing and they can do 553 00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:16,760 Speaker 1: is resist the urge to go with an interim coach. 554 00:27:16,840 --> 00:27:19,520 Speaker 1: Leave Jim Colboy in there and ensure that you get 555 00:27:19,520 --> 00:27:24,280 Speaker 1: the number one pick. Oh well, that guy's a horrible coach. 556 00:27:24,600 --> 00:27:28,000 Speaker 1: Speaking of things changing, by the way, but eleven games 557 00:27:28,040 --> 00:27:29,600 Speaker 1: last year, I don't I don't think we can say 558 00:27:29,640 --> 00:27:32,639 Speaker 1: he's that horrible of a coach. He gone, who would all? Right? 559 00:27:32,880 --> 00:27:36,040 Speaker 1: Games online? Your team is driving for a fourth, the 560 00:27:36,040 --> 00:27:39,040 Speaker 1: other guys score. Who would you who's better? Who's worse 561 00:27:39,080 --> 00:27:42,240 Speaker 1: than him? In game management? I'd have to think about that. 562 00:27:42,320 --> 00:27:47,160 Speaker 1: Andy Reid Smith's he's in that club, though. I think 563 00:27:47,160 --> 00:27:49,320 Speaker 1: it is West's point. I'll say something to you know, 564 00:27:49,400 --> 00:27:52,679 Speaker 1: you you got rid of the offensive coordinator, replace them 565 00:27:52,720 --> 00:27:57,440 Speaker 1: with Couoner. You know, the gentleman has climbed into someone's 566 00:27:57,440 --> 00:27:59,240 Speaker 1: window and try to climb in their bed with him 567 00:27:59,240 --> 00:28:01,680 Speaker 1: a couple of years ago. So well, it's been ten years. 568 00:28:01,760 --> 00:28:03,840 Speaker 1: The guy that he was like the best friend in 569 00:28:03,880 --> 00:28:07,920 Speaker 1: Growing Pains, it's like, oh, where's Kuda? Actually it was Bohner. 570 00:28:08,040 --> 00:28:10,200 Speaker 1: Couder was the guy who worked on cars and dukes 571 00:28:10,200 --> 00:28:12,760 Speaker 1: of Hazzard. The funny thing watching this game was the 572 00:28:12,800 --> 00:28:18,720 Speaker 1: first drive that wasn't finished my point, go ahead Pains 573 00:28:18,800 --> 00:28:22,680 Speaker 1: was your main point, and nailed that, But I'm gonna 574 00:28:22,760 --> 00:28:25,840 Speaker 1: nail another one. Couder enters the building all right, in 575 00:28:25,880 --> 00:28:28,680 Speaker 1: a in a more you know, a more heavy role, 576 00:28:29,000 --> 00:28:30,920 Speaker 1: and you also get the online coach out of there. 577 00:28:31,119 --> 00:28:33,320 Speaker 1: You think, oh, I'm your Abdullah. They're gonna work him in, 578 00:28:33,359 --> 00:28:35,320 Speaker 1: this guy that we fell in love with back in August. 579 00:28:35,600 --> 00:28:39,240 Speaker 1: One touch today, what's going on in Detroit? They hired 580 00:28:39,400 --> 00:28:43,560 Speaker 1: called Well specifically to fix Matthew Stafford, and he's regressed, 581 00:28:44,040 --> 00:28:46,720 Speaker 1: there's no doubt. And last week you could have made 582 00:28:46,720 --> 00:28:50,360 Speaker 1: the case. Stafford played pretty well in that game, except 583 00:28:50,400 --> 00:28:52,640 Speaker 1: for the fact that free rushers are coming at him 584 00:28:52,760 --> 00:28:55,800 Speaker 1: all the time. Today, he did not play well at all. 585 00:28:55,840 --> 00:28:59,120 Speaker 1: He panicked, He made terrible throws, under pressure. The free 586 00:28:59,200 --> 00:29:01,680 Speaker 1: rushers were still coming through, especially in the second half 587 00:29:01,720 --> 00:29:04,880 Speaker 1: once it was allowed. I want to see a source report. 588 00:29:05,400 --> 00:29:08,960 Speaker 1: Whose fault in Detroit is all? All these free rushers 589 00:29:09,160 --> 00:29:11,560 Speaker 1: will call? Will throw Stafford under the bus? Will Stafford? 590 00:29:12,800 --> 00:29:15,440 Speaker 1: I think we know the answer. One of the coaches 591 00:29:15,760 --> 00:29:19,200 Speaker 1: say that the idea now was to simplify things in 592 00:29:19,360 --> 00:29:22,840 Speaker 1: pair pair back the playbook for Matthew Stafford, who didn't 593 00:29:22,840 --> 00:29:25,080 Speaker 1: seem like he's you know, grasp. Well, there's your tech 594 00:29:25,120 --> 00:29:29,120 Speaker 1: moable reference. It's the first technical words four plays. Yeah, exactly. 595 00:29:29,320 --> 00:29:33,000 Speaker 1: How about this big mac Mike Mike mccagan picks up 596 00:29:33,040 --> 00:29:36,320 Speaker 1: the phone, the gestioneral manager and calls up Detroit and 597 00:29:36,400 --> 00:29:39,600 Speaker 1: says first round pick for Matthew Stafford, who says no. 598 00:29:41,760 --> 00:29:43,560 Speaker 1: I I don't think the Lines would agree to that. 599 00:29:43,680 --> 00:29:46,600 Speaker 1: I think the Jets would say no, really, how does 600 00:29:46,680 --> 00:29:48,680 Speaker 1: the Lions do you? Lions have a shot at the 601 00:29:48,760 --> 00:29:50,920 Speaker 1: number one pick. You can get your franchise quarterback, can 602 00:29:50,920 --> 00:29:55,360 Speaker 1: get rid of Stafford's ridiculous salary. Right, yeah, I mean 603 00:29:55,400 --> 00:29:59,040 Speaker 1: you would still make it. No, but you would have 604 00:29:59,080 --> 00:30:00,959 Speaker 1: done two first round pick. That's what I'm saying. It's 605 00:30:00,960 --> 00:30:03,400 Speaker 1: a rebuild and you get Stafford out the door anyway, 606 00:30:03,440 --> 00:30:05,040 Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. The Jets would say no, not 607 00:30:05,080 --> 00:30:08,000 Speaker 1: the Liners. As a Jets fan, would you want Matthew 608 00:30:08,040 --> 00:30:12,720 Speaker 1: Stafford now that my quarterback? It's it's made just ripped up. 609 00:30:12,800 --> 00:30:16,080 Speaker 1: You're talking about we just said they had simplified the 610 00:30:16,200 --> 00:30:17,880 Speaker 1: offense form. You'd have to come in there and learn 611 00:30:17,880 --> 00:30:19,320 Speaker 1: a new offense. In the medder of the year, I 612 00:30:19,320 --> 00:30:21,880 Speaker 1: know that's that's problematic. By better in the offseason, we're 613 00:30:21,880 --> 00:30:23,960 Speaker 1: talking about the insane a f C playoff race. At 614 00:30:23,960 --> 00:30:27,200 Speaker 1: three and five, the Chiefs are one game really out 615 00:30:27,200 --> 00:30:28,800 Speaker 1: in the lost car right, and they're like a lot 616 00:30:28,800 --> 00:30:30,520 Speaker 1: of Unlike a lot of these teams that can try 617 00:30:30,560 --> 00:30:34,240 Speaker 1: to convince themselves that they're somehow legit, the Chiefs have 618 00:30:34,480 --> 00:30:37,520 Speaker 1: something which is a defense, and they had their offenses 619 00:30:37,560 --> 00:30:39,440 Speaker 1: played very well the last couple of weeks. Sir Kendrick 620 00:30:39,480 --> 00:30:42,760 Speaker 1: West looks like very good back. I'm not gonna I'm 621 00:30:42,800 --> 00:30:45,640 Speaker 1: not saying they're good. I'm just saying they have something going. 622 00:30:45,640 --> 00:30:47,440 Speaker 1: If they still have Jamal Charles, I would get I 623 00:30:47,440 --> 00:30:49,560 Speaker 1: would get into this narrative. So I thought they had 624 00:30:49,600 --> 00:30:51,440 Speaker 1: a bad schedule that they had to go through early 625 00:30:51,480 --> 00:30:53,840 Speaker 1: on and they could have gotten strong and maybe been 626 00:30:53,880 --> 00:30:56,239 Speaker 1: sneaking up on people with that. Jamal and dan If 627 00:30:56,240 --> 00:30:58,640 Speaker 1: West is gonna run for nineties seven yards and Alex 628 00:30:58,640 --> 00:31:00,680 Speaker 1: Smith is gonna run for seven in the eight every 629 00:31:00,680 --> 00:31:06,680 Speaker 1: week you've got Jamal. That's interesting. Moving forward, Justin Tucker 630 00:31:07,080 --> 00:31:10,240 Speaker 1: connected on five field goals, including his ninth career winner, 631 00:31:10,480 --> 00:31:14,280 Speaker 1: to lead the Baltimore Ravens to win over the San 632 00:31:14,320 --> 00:31:16,480 Speaker 1: Diego Chargers, a game that went back and forth, back 633 00:31:16,480 --> 00:31:18,800 Speaker 1: and forth West. The biggest story to come out of 634 00:31:18,840 --> 00:31:21,720 Speaker 1: this game wasn't the outcome, however, these teams in both 635 00:31:21,800 --> 00:31:26,320 Speaker 1: mediocre at best, but the injury suffered to your boy, 636 00:31:26,400 --> 00:31:29,360 Speaker 1: the boy of your stable of all time, Steve Smith. 637 00:31:29,880 --> 00:31:32,360 Speaker 1: He looks so explosive on that play too. Got the 638 00:31:32,360 --> 00:31:35,400 Speaker 1: ball and took off running and looked like he had 639 00:31:35,400 --> 00:31:39,200 Speaker 1: a chance to take it in. Uh Sniper, Sniper got 640 00:31:39,240 --> 00:31:43,560 Speaker 1: him right right in the Achilles went down and he 641 00:31:43,640 --> 00:31:46,120 Speaker 1: get He ended that game fourth in the NFL in 642 00:31:46,480 --> 00:31:49,280 Speaker 1: receiving yards per games. So he's playing at the highest 643 00:31:49,360 --> 00:31:52,480 Speaker 1: level he's played in half a decade. When this goes down, 644 00:31:53,360 --> 00:31:55,480 Speaker 1: it's a shaming. What were you thinking as you see 645 00:31:55,520 --> 00:31:57,880 Speaker 1: him coming off the field where you're feeling almost a 646 00:31:57,880 --> 00:32:00,840 Speaker 1: little emotional. I mean, this is this guy wasn't your guy? 647 00:32:01,000 --> 00:32:03,200 Speaker 1: And when you saw that, it's a rare time when 648 00:32:03,200 --> 00:32:06,480 Speaker 1: you're watching someone and thinking that that probably is the 649 00:32:06,520 --> 00:32:09,600 Speaker 1: last play of his career. It's it's hard to maintain 650 00:32:09,640 --> 00:32:11,920 Speaker 1: that kind of perspective when you're trying to cover a 651 00:32:11,960 --> 00:32:15,200 Speaker 1: couple of games and keep up with everything. You know 652 00:32:15,240 --> 00:32:17,200 Speaker 1: he's got the towel over his head when he has 653 00:32:17,240 --> 00:32:19,240 Speaker 1: to be carried off the field, and you immediately think, 654 00:32:19,280 --> 00:32:21,520 Speaker 1: I hope that's not the last player I ever see 655 00:32:21,560 --> 00:32:24,000 Speaker 1: out of his career. And you wrote the post after 656 00:32:24,040 --> 00:32:27,160 Speaker 1: the game, John Harball suggested that he has some kind 657 00:32:27,200 --> 00:32:29,960 Speaker 1: of inside info that Steve Smith's coming back, and the 658 00:32:30,040 --> 00:32:33,400 Speaker 1: report from Yahoo why they wouldn't trade Steve Smith was 659 00:32:33,440 --> 00:32:36,280 Speaker 1: because they feel pretty strongly there's a chance he's coming 660 00:32:36,280 --> 00:32:39,240 Speaker 1: back for two thousand sixteen. I've heard that thrown out there, 661 00:32:39,240 --> 00:32:41,560 Speaker 1: that wouldn't this make him more likely to come back? 662 00:32:41,600 --> 00:32:44,120 Speaker 1: And I was thinking, well, but he isn't That why 663 00:32:44,200 --> 00:32:46,560 Speaker 1: you retire is that you don't want to be trying. 664 00:32:46,840 --> 00:32:49,200 Speaker 1: Mere mortals do, but not a guy with the biggest 665 00:32:49,240 --> 00:32:51,120 Speaker 1: chip on the shoulder in NFL history. Well, the only 666 00:32:51,160 --> 00:32:53,480 Speaker 1: thing that we've seen guys come back just as fresh 667 00:32:53,480 --> 00:32:56,920 Speaker 1: from knee injuries. In some cases Achilles is at his age, 668 00:32:56,960 --> 00:32:59,960 Speaker 1: that's a long rehab and that's really not he is. 669 00:33:00,040 --> 00:33:03,240 Speaker 1: And that is the one injury where the the medical 670 00:33:03,280 --> 00:33:05,640 Speaker 1: technology in the last ten years has come leaps and 671 00:33:05,720 --> 00:33:07,800 Speaker 1: bounds and now it's like a six month inc Isn't 672 00:33:07,840 --> 00:33:12,520 Speaker 1: that what Crabtree had Steve Steve Smith in Baltimore last 673 00:33:12,600 --> 00:33:15,239 Speaker 1: year was very good, slowed down down the stretch. This 674 00:33:15,320 --> 00:33:18,040 Speaker 1: year got off to another great start. We really want 675 00:33:18,040 --> 00:33:19,400 Speaker 1: to see him come back next year and have his 676 00:33:19,480 --> 00:33:21,880 Speaker 1: Andre Johnson season. I also want to let him go 677 00:33:21,920 --> 00:33:24,720 Speaker 1: out like a warrior injured, he goes out how he wants, 678 00:33:24,800 --> 00:33:26,560 Speaker 1: but I don't want to. I don't want to depressing 679 00:33:26,560 --> 00:33:29,160 Speaker 1: Steve Smith. Season is when I'm going to second. But 680 00:33:29,480 --> 00:33:31,560 Speaker 1: you know, if if there's one guy that we want 681 00:33:31,560 --> 00:33:33,320 Speaker 1: to have faith in, it's gonna do what we did 682 00:33:33,360 --> 00:33:35,560 Speaker 1: Canics don't expect it would be him. The pity that 683 00:33:35,600 --> 00:33:38,040 Speaker 1: you're laying on Steve Smith and that's what's gonna drive 684 00:33:38,120 --> 00:33:39,840 Speaker 1: him to come back, I hope. So you know who 685 00:33:39,840 --> 00:33:42,880 Speaker 1: should there's blood and guts all over me. We should 686 00:33:42,880 --> 00:33:45,200 Speaker 1: be pitying the rest of us who have to cover 687 00:33:45,320 --> 00:33:47,160 Speaker 1: Ravens games this year. I mean, he had more than 688 00:33:47,440 --> 00:33:51,040 Speaker 1: double the amount of receiving yards. Is the next closest 689 00:33:51,160 --> 00:33:53,720 Speaker 1: receiver on the team who's camar aching more that way? 690 00:33:53,720 --> 00:33:57,120 Speaker 1: More than double, almost triple. They're gonna be tough to watch. 691 00:33:57,120 --> 00:33:59,680 Speaker 1: They win this game and then the Chargers as baddleless 692 00:33:59,720 --> 00:34:02,680 Speaker 1: as this us for the Ravens to Lusty Smith. They 693 00:34:02,760 --> 00:34:05,200 Speaker 1: not only lost this game and again a wide opening, 694 00:34:05,480 --> 00:34:09,400 Speaker 1: they lost Keenan Allen king dunlopped their left tackle, Corey Legit, 695 00:34:09,920 --> 00:34:14,239 Speaker 1: Chris Watt, and Ladarius Green all in this game. This 696 00:34:15,120 --> 00:34:17,960 Speaker 1: doesn't even seem remarkable because this happens to Chargers every week. 697 00:34:19,040 --> 00:34:20,480 Speaker 1: I was saying to the game they ought to get 698 00:34:20,560 --> 00:34:22,040 Speaker 1: rid of the golf court, that they come out and 699 00:34:22,080 --> 00:34:25,040 Speaker 1: just use a double decker bus. Just get everyone off 700 00:34:25,080 --> 00:34:26,879 Speaker 1: the field and bring out your dad. They have had 701 00:34:26,920 --> 00:34:30,399 Speaker 1: some terrible luck. It's I know, I know that you've 702 00:34:30,400 --> 00:34:33,640 Speaker 1: mocked the Chargers fans, Dan over the not for the 703 00:34:33,719 --> 00:34:36,400 Speaker 1: Charger fans, but why would you mock the Chargers and 704 00:34:37,040 --> 00:34:40,279 Speaker 1: they weren't even know Dan is simply not signing up 705 00:34:40,320 --> 00:34:43,240 Speaker 1: for the idea that they're the most passionate fan base, 706 00:34:43,280 --> 00:34:45,400 Speaker 1: and you can that stadium is half filled. I just 707 00:34:45,440 --> 00:34:47,759 Speaker 1: feel bad for for that team right now. Well, they 708 00:34:47,760 --> 00:34:49,600 Speaker 1: may have a new coach. I think after the season, 709 00:34:49,600 --> 00:34:51,400 Speaker 1: if you want to put together your list of hot 710 00:34:51,440 --> 00:34:54,840 Speaker 1: seed coaches, I think McCoy suddenly finds himself on the list. 711 00:34:55,160 --> 00:34:59,160 Speaker 1: Before we bring Collie and wolf in. Connie Fox as 712 00:34:59,160 --> 00:35:01,759 Speaker 1: she's known by some, and it's been clarified why she's 713 00:35:01,800 --> 00:35:05,120 Speaker 1: called that. Just a few other ideas for sponsors for 714 00:35:05,160 --> 00:35:08,120 Speaker 1: the podcast that they're listening. Apple, I feel like that 715 00:35:08,160 --> 00:35:10,239 Speaker 1: would be a nice picture. That would be the Steve 716 00:35:10,320 --> 00:35:12,719 Speaker 1: Jobs movie. Loved it, although they don't love it, so 717 00:35:12,840 --> 00:35:16,160 Speaker 1: I didn't love it. Okay, the good move Nike. I'm 718 00:35:16,160 --> 00:35:19,120 Speaker 1: wearing a pair of their their kicks right now. Great products. 719 00:35:19,320 --> 00:35:22,239 Speaker 1: They're very independent, They're looking for small projects. Just do it, 720 00:35:22,800 --> 00:35:27,120 Speaker 1: Just do it. Chase Bank, great bank, deep pockets, a 721 00:35:27,160 --> 00:35:30,760 Speaker 1: little bit underdog, underdog financial institution. I go to Chase 722 00:35:31,200 --> 00:35:35,000 Speaker 1: Dick's Sporting Goods. Like the name not the top of 723 00:35:35,000 --> 00:35:38,800 Speaker 1: my list. Okay, what about one more cornhole? Like the 724 00:35:38,880 --> 00:35:42,640 Speaker 1: leading corn hole manufacturer, whoever it may be. Cornfintry dot 725 00:35:42,640 --> 00:35:44,799 Speaker 1: Com is the first corn hole business in America. It's 726 00:35:44,800 --> 00:35:47,520 Speaker 1: in Cincinnati Bank. So there you go. We'd be sponsoring 727 00:35:47,560 --> 00:35:51,799 Speaker 1: them basically if you are more that one sounds more believable. 728 00:35:52,719 --> 00:35:55,440 Speaker 1: If you are a shadowy league figure with any of 729 00:35:55,440 --> 00:35:58,200 Speaker 1: those companies, come at CD. I'm sure he'll get the 730 00:35:58,200 --> 00:36:01,680 Speaker 1: deal done. All right. With that said, let's bring in 731 00:36:01,719 --> 00:36:06,759 Speaker 1: our friend. There is our friend in the around the 732 00:36:06,840 --> 00:36:13,160 Speaker 1: NFL awkward Iso cam. Yes, Hello, Hello, what's up? Colleen? 733 00:36:13,239 --> 00:36:17,719 Speaker 1: Hey Dan? How's it going? Colleen Wolf? Of course the 734 00:36:17,840 --> 00:36:22,879 Speaker 1: NFL Game Day Blitz Now, NFL Now Game Day Blitz. Yes, 735 00:36:23,239 --> 00:36:25,800 Speaker 1: with Dave dem Check in the gang. You do a 736 00:36:25,880 --> 00:36:28,799 Speaker 1: lot of work on Sundays over there, like seven hours. Right, 737 00:36:28,840 --> 00:36:31,239 Speaker 1: it's a long show. Yeah, but you know what, it 738 00:36:31,360 --> 00:36:34,120 Speaker 1: flies flies by a lot of games, a lot of 739 00:36:34,120 --> 00:36:38,799 Speaker 1: things happening. I bet Cessler was on the couch on 740 00:36:38,920 --> 00:36:42,040 Speaker 1: today's show. Do you think you fit in? Yeah? He 741 00:36:42,120 --> 00:36:45,040 Speaker 1: always fits in. We need more of you guys on 742 00:36:45,080 --> 00:36:47,960 Speaker 1: the show. I think, okay, we'll work on that. Colleen 743 00:36:48,080 --> 00:36:51,120 Speaker 1: back as she is. This is her other regular gig 744 00:36:51,160 --> 00:36:54,000 Speaker 1: on Sunday. She sits in on some games, So why 745 00:36:54,000 --> 00:36:55,719 Speaker 1: don't we get into some more games. It's great to 746 00:36:55,760 --> 00:36:57,719 Speaker 1: have you it's great to be back. And by what 747 00:36:57,800 --> 00:36:59,680 Speaker 1: we get it, you work for the NFL with the shirt. 748 00:36:59,800 --> 00:37:03,319 Speaker 1: Come thanks just in case you've got got extra money 749 00:37:03,320 --> 00:37:05,919 Speaker 1: for that. I'm just waiting for my Danish still from 750 00:37:06,000 --> 00:37:11,400 Speaker 1: the fork meters. I haven't gotten it. WHOA that got awkward. 751 00:37:11,840 --> 00:37:16,200 Speaker 1: Let's move forward. We'll start with the Minnesota Vikings, who 752 00:37:16,239 --> 00:37:18,920 Speaker 1: got a thirty six year old thirty six yard field 753 00:37:18,920 --> 00:37:22,400 Speaker 1: goal from Blair Walsh his time time expired, lifting the 754 00:37:22,480 --> 00:37:27,520 Speaker 1: Vikings to win over the Bears at Soldier Field Colleen. 755 00:37:27,560 --> 00:37:30,680 Speaker 1: Another shaky day for Teddy Bridgewater this season, but he 756 00:37:30,719 --> 00:37:34,200 Speaker 1: connected with his new favorite target when it counted. Mos Yes, 757 00:37:34,400 --> 00:37:37,320 Speaker 1: Stefon Diggs Grave Digger. First of all, I love it. 758 00:37:38,560 --> 00:37:41,279 Speaker 1: It's but this guy. I mean, he was a fifth 759 00:37:41,320 --> 00:37:43,799 Speaker 1: round draft picked. I didn't expect him to play the 760 00:37:43,840 --> 00:37:47,200 Speaker 1: way that he's playing now. And they desperately need a 761 00:37:47,280 --> 00:37:50,520 Speaker 1: guy like him. When they have guys like Cornarrel Patterson 762 00:37:50,680 --> 00:37:54,120 Speaker 1: and Charles Johnson and Mike Wallace who are doing anything, 763 00:37:54,160 --> 00:37:56,680 Speaker 1: they need him to really step in, step up, and 764 00:37:56,719 --> 00:37:59,320 Speaker 1: he did. Now that they have Adrian Peterson doing Adrian 765 00:37:59,320 --> 00:38:02,799 Speaker 1: Peterson like things that help. Here's the thing with Dicks too, 766 00:38:02,840 --> 00:38:05,200 Speaker 1: and this would be a reason to be even more excited. 767 00:38:05,239 --> 00:38:08,440 Speaker 1: The Bears obviously had done their work and prep for him. 768 00:38:08,480 --> 00:38:11,080 Speaker 1: I think he had four yards receiving at halftime, and 769 00:38:11,120 --> 00:38:14,399 Speaker 1: it's because, like what happens with actual good receivers, even 770 00:38:14,440 --> 00:38:16,719 Speaker 1: when they're they get stopped initially, they find ways to 771 00:38:16,760 --> 00:38:19,160 Speaker 1: get open. He ended with ninety yards the big touchdown 772 00:38:19,239 --> 00:38:21,839 Speaker 1: to win it. This guy's a real player. Yeah, he's 773 00:38:21,880 --> 00:38:25,640 Speaker 1: been so good so quickly that you wonder why the 774 00:38:25,760 --> 00:38:27,680 Speaker 1: Vikings didn't have him active the first few weeks in 775 00:38:27,719 --> 00:38:30,959 Speaker 1: the season. Not their best receivers. Quiet he get taken 776 00:38:31,000 --> 00:38:33,240 Speaker 1: in the fifth round of the draft. You've got seven 777 00:38:33,280 --> 00:38:35,839 Speaker 1: first round picks, only one of them doing any tell 778 00:38:35,880 --> 00:38:38,080 Speaker 1: us why Mark, Why wasn't he These things happen, I 779 00:38:38,120 --> 00:38:40,279 Speaker 1: mean scouts for human beings that you know they're on 780 00:38:40,320 --> 00:38:43,239 Speaker 1: the road, they're hired, you know it should never happen. 781 00:38:43,239 --> 00:38:45,440 Speaker 1: They don't get everything right. This game was the Vikings 782 00:38:45,560 --> 00:38:49,040 Speaker 1: entire season. That they looked poor for most of the game, 783 00:38:49,480 --> 00:38:51,480 Speaker 1: and that they find a way to win an ugly 784 00:38:51,520 --> 00:38:53,919 Speaker 1: game against the bad team. They could not be less 785 00:38:53,920 --> 00:38:56,440 Speaker 1: impressive at five and two than they are, but it 786 00:38:56,480 --> 00:38:58,480 Speaker 1: really doesn't matter because they can try to figure things 787 00:38:58,520 --> 00:39:00,480 Speaker 1: out as they go, and they've got a nice little record. Now. 788 00:39:00,560 --> 00:39:03,279 Speaker 1: I asked Bucky Brooks on the couch, why, like, why 789 00:39:03,400 --> 00:39:06,120 Speaker 1: is it that Norv Turner's offense seems to almost have 790 00:39:06,640 --> 00:39:09,120 Speaker 1: taken a step back this year, and he his opinion 791 00:39:09,160 --> 00:39:11,960 Speaker 1: was that they have to actually focus on the ground 792 00:39:11,960 --> 00:39:15,320 Speaker 1: game this year. That it's Adrian Peterson. Obviously is Adrian Peterson, 793 00:39:15,400 --> 00:39:17,799 Speaker 1: but they were just basically throwing the ball at Hunt 794 00:39:17,840 --> 00:39:20,000 Speaker 1: at the end of last year, and they don't seem 795 00:39:20,040 --> 00:39:22,279 Speaker 1: to be the same team at five and two, they're 796 00:39:22,640 --> 00:39:25,799 Speaker 1: the least impressive five. He always just says every team 797 00:39:25,800 --> 00:39:28,719 Speaker 1: should run the ball more like he was saying that 798 00:39:28,719 --> 00:39:34,080 Speaker 1: that was the problems account for Adrian Peterson and the 799 00:39:34,080 --> 00:39:36,160 Speaker 1: best running back in football. That maybe it's thrown some 800 00:39:36,239 --> 00:39:37,719 Speaker 1: of what they had the end of last year off 801 00:39:37,719 --> 00:39:47,799 Speaker 1: a little bit. It's not heat at all of us 802 00:39:47,840 --> 00:39:50,040 Speaker 1: found it to be sort of a shot. Maybe you're 803 00:39:50,040 --> 00:39:52,319 Speaker 1: talking out on the couch and it would be good 804 00:39:52,640 --> 00:39:56,560 Speaker 1: double shift for the couch for good. Make it sound 805 00:39:56,600 --> 00:39:59,280 Speaker 1: like it's a punishment would be great. The more time 806 00:39:59,320 --> 00:40:01,400 Speaker 1: to go through of points and get you know, your 807 00:40:01,440 --> 00:40:04,920 Speaker 1: points out your points, good good good points by everyone 808 00:40:04,960 --> 00:40:08,080 Speaker 1: and Jay Cutler's last game before his mega trade somewhere 809 00:40:08,080 --> 00:40:10,640 Speaker 1: in the NFL, maybe Houston, right, Greig, Yeah, And I 810 00:40:10,719 --> 00:40:13,399 Speaker 1: thought it might be Matt four Days last game too, 811 00:40:13,400 --> 00:40:16,040 Speaker 1: but now he left with an ankle injury and that 812 00:40:16,160 --> 00:40:18,279 Speaker 1: could complicate things. And if he's in this game, I 813 00:40:18,320 --> 00:40:23,120 Speaker 1: believe Jeremy Langford had the costly dropped that basically gave 814 00:40:23,160 --> 00:40:25,319 Speaker 1: the ball back to Chicago and let them win the game, 815 00:40:25,600 --> 00:40:27,440 Speaker 1: and gave the ball back to Minnesota let them win 816 00:40:27,480 --> 00:40:31,160 Speaker 1: the game. It's weird, but Jay Cutler like actually has 817 00:40:31,320 --> 00:40:36,200 Speaker 1: been playing that bad. He hasn't been baking really terrible mistakes. Yeah, 818 00:40:36,320 --> 00:40:40,560 Speaker 1: that sentiment is very it's been prevailing this season that 819 00:40:40,760 --> 00:40:43,480 Speaker 1: everyone's like, hey, guys, am I allowed to say this 820 00:40:43,520 --> 00:40:46,880 Speaker 1: that Jay Cutler is not because he hasn't been I 821 00:40:46,880 --> 00:40:50,040 Speaker 1: mean the season. I'm balanced. He's been probably in them 822 00:40:50,080 --> 00:40:51,799 Speaker 1: right in the middle of the pack of quarterbacks. Right 823 00:40:51,880 --> 00:40:53,800 Speaker 1: if they do want to trade him, I mean, they've 824 00:40:53,960 --> 00:40:57,000 Speaker 1: set it up well with three pretty good weeks from Cutler. 825 00:40:57,080 --> 00:40:59,960 Speaker 1: But Connor Or wrote a piece where it really has 826 00:41:00,000 --> 00:41:03,560 Speaker 1: a lot to do with Adam Gaze, who Coulor finally said, 827 00:41:03,640 --> 00:41:05,160 Speaker 1: I want to do the things the way you did 828 00:41:05,160 --> 00:41:07,000 Speaker 1: with Peyton Manning. Now do we buy that? I don't know, 829 00:41:07,080 --> 00:41:09,680 Speaker 1: but he has looked more functional. Count on Mark to 830 00:41:09,760 --> 00:41:12,359 Speaker 1: spin it back to the o C. He has well, 831 00:41:12,440 --> 00:41:14,960 Speaker 1: he has a kendred spirit and Connor who believes it's 832 00:41:15,000 --> 00:41:17,920 Speaker 1: all these magical, you know, thirty seven year old offensive 833 00:41:17,920 --> 00:41:23,040 Speaker 1: coordinators that he's wildly millionaires who he spends like his 834 00:41:23,280 --> 00:41:26,279 Speaker 1: entire week with. So there is some impact on on 835 00:41:26,320 --> 00:41:28,480 Speaker 1: his play. I mean, I think it says that Gaze 836 00:41:28,560 --> 00:41:31,600 Speaker 1: they've got good coordinators in Chicago, that they really do. 837 00:41:31,719 --> 00:41:35,680 Speaker 1: The coordinators are like your manic pixie dream girls. Yeah, 838 00:41:35,719 --> 00:41:37,480 Speaker 1: I don't. I'm not sure that the listener would know 839 00:41:37,520 --> 00:41:40,760 Speaker 1: what that means, but I would agree it's a certain character. 840 00:41:41,840 --> 00:41:44,600 Speaker 1: If it's a certain character in a movie, it's a 841 00:41:44,680 --> 00:41:47,879 Speaker 1: female character in which she's not an actual human being. 842 00:41:48,239 --> 00:41:51,960 Speaker 1: She really just exists to help the male protagonist um 843 00:41:52,080 --> 00:41:54,839 Speaker 1: see the light and learn to enjoy life. But she's 844 00:41:55,040 --> 00:41:58,520 Speaker 1: basically like the idealized in the dream girl. Nat Only 845 00:41:58,600 --> 00:42:01,399 Speaker 1: Portman and guarded Stage got it. Yes, Nathan or being 846 00:42:01,440 --> 00:42:04,239 Speaker 1: of the Onion I believe is credited with it. We 847 00:42:04,280 --> 00:42:06,040 Speaker 1: should We should at least not act like it was 848 00:42:06,080 --> 00:42:08,759 Speaker 1: an original thought, But let's move on. Let's get out 849 00:42:08,760 --> 00:42:12,440 Speaker 1: of this uh and talk about Mark's Cleveland Browns and 850 00:42:12,480 --> 00:42:15,160 Speaker 1: Mark by the way, first time. Mark watched the game 851 00:42:15,200 --> 00:42:19,720 Speaker 1: on assignment for the Browns, completing his return to fandom, 852 00:42:19,760 --> 00:42:23,200 Speaker 1: and it's fitting that the game was another stomach churner. 853 00:42:23,239 --> 00:42:25,320 Speaker 1: The Browns jumped out to a big lead on Sunday, 854 00:42:25,320 --> 00:42:28,280 Speaker 1: but the Arizona Cardinals kept their cool reeled off twenty 855 00:42:28,320 --> 00:42:30,880 Speaker 1: seven unanswered points on the way on their way to 856 00:42:30,920 --> 00:42:33,640 Speaker 1: a thirty four to twenty win. Mark, the Cardinals don't 857 00:42:33,640 --> 00:42:36,040 Speaker 1: have to be perfect when Carson Palmer was playing at 858 00:42:36,080 --> 00:42:39,040 Speaker 1: this level, right Yeah? I man, forget the Browns. They 859 00:42:39,040 --> 00:42:42,400 Speaker 1: are apparently offering half their team up for trade at 860 00:42:42,400 --> 00:42:44,960 Speaker 1: this point. The bigger story is the Cardinals. I mean, 861 00:42:45,000 --> 00:42:48,200 Speaker 1: they had four turnovers and really put themselves in a 862 00:42:48,200 --> 00:42:50,320 Speaker 1: hole in this game. And that's the only reason that 863 00:42:50,400 --> 00:42:53,640 Speaker 1: Cleveland was in this in this fight was bad. Teams 864 00:42:53,640 --> 00:42:55,760 Speaker 1: need turnovers to hang with a team like the Cardinals, 865 00:42:55,800 --> 00:42:59,080 Speaker 1: But when you are as talented as as as Arizona is, 866 00:42:59,120 --> 00:43:01,400 Speaker 1: they just found a way to overwhelm Cleveland in the 867 00:43:01,440 --> 00:43:05,279 Speaker 1: second half exposed weaknesses. It was not Carson Palmer's best game. 868 00:43:05,320 --> 00:43:07,440 Speaker 1: Because this should not They should not have been down 869 00:43:07,520 --> 00:43:10,759 Speaker 1: as much. Early. Palmer had two deep throws, one to 870 00:43:10,880 --> 00:43:13,880 Speaker 1: Floyd and one too off Fitzgerald that were overthrown. They 871 00:43:13,920 --> 00:43:15,680 Speaker 1: just it wasn't as crisp as we've seen him in 872 00:43:15,760 --> 00:43:18,400 Speaker 1: other games, and it didn't matter in the end. They 873 00:43:18,440 --> 00:43:21,080 Speaker 1: just absolutely took control of this thing. I think Arizona 874 00:43:21,640 --> 00:43:23,400 Speaker 1: is the right pick for Team of a t L 875 00:43:23,520 --> 00:43:26,200 Speaker 1: for what they did today six and two. Now, the 876 00:43:26,239 --> 00:43:28,000 Speaker 1: fact that they don't have to be even at their 877 00:43:28,000 --> 00:43:29,520 Speaker 1: best to be able to take care of the teams 878 00:43:29,520 --> 00:43:31,040 Speaker 1: that are, I mean, that's a sign of a good 879 00:43:31,040 --> 00:43:33,480 Speaker 1: team that that that does that type of work. Although 880 00:43:33,480 --> 00:43:36,120 Speaker 1: we just talked about that coming off a Monday Night's game, 881 00:43:36,200 --> 00:43:40,239 Speaker 1: that they keep not playing at their best, that they 882 00:43:40,320 --> 00:43:43,840 Speaker 1: keep having the struggle and make things harder on themselves. 883 00:43:43,880 --> 00:43:45,640 Speaker 1: They've lost a couple of these games, and now they've 884 00:43:45,640 --> 00:43:47,960 Speaker 1: been in a couple of these games against bad teams. 885 00:43:47,960 --> 00:43:50,319 Speaker 1: So they do need to stop doing that at some point, 886 00:43:51,600 --> 00:43:55,719 Speaker 1: to struggle yards every week. Well you know what I'm saying. Well, yeah, 887 00:43:55,800 --> 00:43:59,279 Speaker 1: but among among the teams in the NFL, who can't 888 00:43:59,280 --> 00:44:03,520 Speaker 1: you say that about the Hatreds, Broncos, the Broncos ter back. 889 00:44:03,560 --> 00:44:05,759 Speaker 1: You didn't have a good game until Week eight and 890 00:44:05,800 --> 00:44:08,960 Speaker 1: that yet they're still undefeated. Yeah, but they've struggled like 891 00:44:09,440 --> 00:44:13,000 Speaker 1: the Cardinals. By the way, a lot of bad job 892 00:44:13,040 --> 00:44:15,560 Speaker 1: by some of our listeners today, nothing worse than premature 893 00:44:15,600 --> 00:44:18,759 Speaker 1: honking in the first first quarter. Whoh your team of 894 00:44:18,800 --> 00:44:22,160 Speaker 1: a t L not doing so great. Part of it 895 00:44:22,200 --> 00:44:23,880 Speaker 1: is just the card does have had the easiest schedule 896 00:44:23,880 --> 00:44:26,200 Speaker 1: in the NFL, so I think you have to take 897 00:44:26,239 --> 00:44:28,560 Speaker 1: that into account. We talked about schedule all the time. 898 00:44:28,640 --> 00:44:31,120 Speaker 1: So I'm just assuming it is gonna get tougher and 899 00:44:31,120 --> 00:44:33,320 Speaker 1: they're gonna have to play better those weeks. They've obviously 900 00:44:33,320 --> 00:44:34,960 Speaker 1: got the tools they I mean, they put this kind 901 00:44:34,960 --> 00:44:38,280 Speaker 1: of performance up without John Brown. What's J. J. Nelson 902 00:44:38,320 --> 00:44:40,640 Speaker 1: all about. That's who came in for him, and he 903 00:44:40,920 --> 00:44:43,719 Speaker 1: looked pretty good. Runs about a four to forty is 904 00:44:43,760 --> 00:44:46,680 Speaker 1: incredibly tiny and if there's a defender within the area, 905 00:44:46,760 --> 00:44:49,000 Speaker 1: he doesn't catch the pass well. He he looked better 906 00:44:49,000 --> 00:44:52,280 Speaker 1: today and he he played the John Brown role, got open, 907 00:44:52,480 --> 00:44:56,840 Speaker 1: made a couple of big catches. Brown was active, but 908 00:44:56,880 --> 00:44:59,440 Speaker 1: they just didn't play one of those sat on the sideline, 909 00:44:59,440 --> 00:45:01,399 Speaker 1: and I think if you know things have gotten real hot, 910 00:45:01,440 --> 00:45:03,439 Speaker 1: maybe they would have put him in, but I think 911 00:45:03,480 --> 00:45:06,759 Speaker 1: that arians knew that this was not in doubt. Once 912 00:45:06,800 --> 00:45:09,279 Speaker 1: they started to cook, like after halftime, you really could 913 00:45:09,280 --> 00:45:11,320 Speaker 1: tell that the tide was turning. They know the Brown's 914 00:45:11,360 --> 00:45:14,320 Speaker 1: defensive struggled against the run. They give Chris Johnson thirty 915 00:45:14,440 --> 00:45:17,520 Speaker 1: carries when they have It's surprising to me when you 916 00:45:17,560 --> 00:45:20,560 Speaker 1: have David Johnson and Andrea Ellington combined for four carries 917 00:45:20,600 --> 00:45:24,640 Speaker 1: and and Chris Johnson. Wah, you know your coach is 918 00:45:24,640 --> 00:45:26,279 Speaker 1: in love with you When you lose two fumbls and 919 00:45:26,280 --> 00:45:27,880 Speaker 1: you still get thirty carries. I don't know why you 920 00:45:27,920 --> 00:45:30,040 Speaker 1: would be giving Chris Johnson thirty carries. He's still a 921 00:45:30,040 --> 00:45:32,040 Speaker 1: thirty year old running back. You want to keep it 922 00:45:32,120 --> 00:45:33,799 Speaker 1: as fresh as possible. When you got some options, Why 923 00:45:35,800 --> 00:45:37,680 Speaker 1: that was what they wanted. Today they've turned him into 924 00:45:37,680 --> 00:45:40,640 Speaker 1: a pack corse. I mean one thing about Cleveland, and 925 00:45:40,640 --> 00:45:43,600 Speaker 1: this is why they're a disaster. They spent six months 926 00:45:43,640 --> 00:45:46,280 Speaker 1: telling you, you know, we're this, We're this tough team 927 00:45:46,320 --> 00:45:48,840 Speaker 1: that got this offensive line. We're gonna use to draft 928 00:45:48,880 --> 00:45:51,759 Speaker 1: picks on offensive and defensive lineman in the first round. 929 00:45:52,120 --> 00:45:54,759 Speaker 1: They run for thirty nine yards and Josh mccounters. They're 930 00:45:54,800 --> 00:45:58,279 Speaker 1: leading rusher, and they basically Duke Johnson, who is the 931 00:45:58,400 --> 00:46:01,920 Speaker 1: most interesting player in the backfield, vanished in the second half. 932 00:46:01,960 --> 00:46:04,680 Speaker 1: I have to two Browns things to run by you here, Mark. 933 00:46:04,719 --> 00:46:07,080 Speaker 1: First of all, you and I have a sandwich prop 934 00:46:07,600 --> 00:46:09,920 Speaker 1: who gets the three wins first? The Browns or the 935 00:46:09,960 --> 00:46:12,719 Speaker 1: Calves lost that well, the Browns have now used up 936 00:46:12,760 --> 00:46:15,720 Speaker 1: all their head start and they're both at two wins. 937 00:46:15,719 --> 00:46:17,600 Speaker 1: And I believe the Calves of three games this week. 938 00:46:18,080 --> 00:46:22,839 Speaker 1: So I think i'land's lucky that they play Thursday night, 939 00:46:23,160 --> 00:46:26,040 Speaker 1: and they're not lucky because they play the Bengals. But 940 00:46:26,080 --> 00:46:30,280 Speaker 1: if everything that's wrong for the Calves, then maybe Cleveland 941 00:46:30,280 --> 00:46:33,400 Speaker 1: guts there. I have essentially lost. Just let the Cleveland 942 00:46:33,400 --> 00:46:36,640 Speaker 1: pull up there. They're one good team. The Cavaliers now, 943 00:46:36,680 --> 00:46:39,319 Speaker 1: I'm happy for them. I'm not rooting against the I 944 00:46:39,320 --> 00:46:41,799 Speaker 1: said this sandwich. No, the sandwich is out. And here's 945 00:46:41,840 --> 00:46:43,920 Speaker 1: one other. While Collegen looks up the Cavs schedule. One 946 00:46:43,920 --> 00:46:46,640 Speaker 1: other idea, Mark, we talked about. You know they were 947 00:46:46,640 --> 00:46:48,359 Speaker 1: at The Browns were out of the league for three 948 00:46:48,440 --> 00:46:52,239 Speaker 1: years of the nineties before they came back with the 949 00:46:52,320 --> 00:46:54,759 Speaker 1: twenty year anniversary coming up, Why don't we do this? 950 00:46:55,480 --> 00:46:58,400 Speaker 1: Leave the league for three more years, come back in 951 00:46:58,440 --> 00:47:02,680 Speaker 1: two thousand nineteen. As a third iteration, the second iteration, 952 00:47:02,760 --> 00:47:05,239 Speaker 1: just wipe it away. It never happened fresh start. I 953 00:47:05,320 --> 00:47:07,520 Speaker 1: like it. We discussed it earlier. I think what it 954 00:47:07,560 --> 00:47:11,840 Speaker 1: does is it wipes out what is two decades of absolute, ugly, 955 00:47:12,000 --> 00:47:15,120 Speaker 1: treacherous nonsense. Well, and then you reboot and you start 956 00:47:15,200 --> 00:47:17,640 Speaker 1: over again. If they trade their entire roster, you might 957 00:47:17,640 --> 00:47:20,600 Speaker 1: get that chance. You miss out on Gary Barne just 958 00:47:20,719 --> 00:47:23,480 Speaker 1: prime right now. You know, want to put that off. 959 00:47:25,080 --> 00:47:28,600 Speaker 1: You gotta come with a harder cell than that. I'm 960 00:47:28,600 --> 00:47:31,600 Speaker 1: happy for him, But Colleen the Wolf, Connie Fox, are 961 00:47:31,600 --> 00:47:35,960 Speaker 1: Cleveland Calves up beating they have to this week against 962 00:47:36,040 --> 00:47:43,719 Speaker 1: the Sixers? By the way, Cleveland's not beating the Bengals 963 00:47:43,719 --> 00:47:46,160 Speaker 1: on Thursday night. So and by the way, Josh McCowen 964 00:47:46,280 --> 00:47:48,439 Speaker 1: got hurt in this game, right, so Johnny Mans album 965 00:47:48,520 --> 00:47:53,360 Speaker 1: might just get this next mccownt McCown will play. He 966 00:47:53,480 --> 00:47:56,080 Speaker 1: is I'll get the guy is finished. He is tough. 967 00:47:56,120 --> 00:47:58,560 Speaker 1: All right, Let's move on. The Houston Texans set a 968 00:47:58,600 --> 00:48:01,640 Speaker 1: single game franchise record with seven sacks on their way 969 00:48:01,640 --> 00:48:04,759 Speaker 1: to win. Over there. I'm gonna say it, and it's 970 00:48:04,800 --> 00:48:08,600 Speaker 1: back the Tennessee Titoons. Mark. Let's give the text and 971 00:48:08,680 --> 00:48:11,399 Speaker 1: some credit. They haven't quit on their coach despite last 972 00:48:11,440 --> 00:48:13,480 Speaker 1: week's epic embarrassment. I don't have a lot to I 973 00:48:13,520 --> 00:48:15,000 Speaker 1: don't even know how to set you up for this game, 974 00:48:15,000 --> 00:48:17,160 Speaker 1: but throw it out there. Someone had to win this game, 975 00:48:17,480 --> 00:48:21,560 Speaker 1: and you know, Houston's defense took over Brian Brian Hoyer. 976 00:48:21,640 --> 00:48:23,359 Speaker 1: This is the weird thing. I watched him and if 977 00:48:23,360 --> 00:48:25,319 Speaker 1: you watch the full game, it's like, oh yeah, he 978 00:48:25,440 --> 00:48:28,600 Speaker 1: definitely is not the future at quarterback on any level, 979 00:48:28,800 --> 00:48:33,920 Speaker 1: but he has I believe fourteen touchdowns picks in the 980 00:48:33,960 --> 00:48:36,880 Speaker 1: offense this year, So I what it baffles me that 981 00:48:36,880 --> 00:48:39,240 Speaker 1: they ever settled on Ryan Mallett is the better option 982 00:48:39,280 --> 00:48:41,480 Speaker 1: with what we've seen at this point, but still you 983 00:48:41,560 --> 00:48:44,040 Speaker 1: have no quarterback. They can't run the ball. This is 984 00:48:44,080 --> 00:48:46,400 Speaker 1: another game where the running game was an absolute disaster 985 00:48:46,480 --> 00:48:49,000 Speaker 1: for Houston. It was all about the defense because the 986 00:48:49,040 --> 00:48:52,560 Speaker 1: Titans without Mariotta, they are what they were last year. 987 00:48:52,600 --> 00:48:55,880 Speaker 1: They're unwatchable on offense. They're one of the worst offenses 988 00:48:55,920 --> 00:48:57,920 Speaker 1: in the league, and they need Mariota back right. It 989 00:48:57,960 --> 00:49:03,120 Speaker 1: makes you think so much more about Mariota's absolutely that's playing. 990 00:49:03,120 --> 00:49:04,600 Speaker 1: The post was that if you're a Titans fan, you 991 00:49:04,680 --> 00:49:08,000 Speaker 1: have to surrealize how good of a choice Mario you have. 992 00:49:08,200 --> 00:49:10,799 Speaker 1: Order from Mariota were pretty similar to the last eight 993 00:49:10,880 --> 00:49:14,040 Speaker 1: quarters it started. It started going pretty poorly for him 994 00:49:14,239 --> 00:49:16,239 Speaker 1: his last couple of games. I don't know, it's just 995 00:49:16,280 --> 00:49:18,640 Speaker 1: the talent around them is Yeah. I think the link 996 00:49:18,760 --> 00:49:21,640 Speaker 1: is that he was getting killed just like Mettenberger was 997 00:49:21,640 --> 00:49:23,719 Speaker 1: getting killed today. I mean, Mettenberger is not a good 998 00:49:23,800 --> 00:49:26,359 Speaker 1: quarterback at this point. His play has fallen off a map, 999 00:49:26,560 --> 00:49:28,600 Speaker 1: but he cannot You've got guys in your face all 1000 00:49:28,640 --> 00:49:31,000 Speaker 1: game long. Mettenberger's falling off at all. He's the same 1001 00:49:31,000 --> 00:49:32,520 Speaker 1: guy he was last year when he couldn't win a 1002 00:49:32,560 --> 00:49:34,600 Speaker 1: game and couldn't move the offense. And if he could 1003 00:49:34,680 --> 00:49:38,560 Speaker 1: draw up a quarterback to get thirteen combined hits between 1004 00:49:38,560 --> 00:49:41,239 Speaker 1: two players J J. Watt and Whitney Merciless, it would 1005 00:49:41,239 --> 00:49:43,680 Speaker 1: be Zach Mettenberger with a slow delivery and no pocket. 1006 00:49:44,280 --> 00:49:46,400 Speaker 1: Let's call grag Let's call it like it is. That 1007 00:49:46,520 --> 00:49:49,160 Speaker 1: was a direct shot from West to you, not just 1008 00:49:50,680 --> 00:49:55,319 Speaker 1: and I like Greg in the NFL Juster too, and 1009 00:49:55,360 --> 00:49:57,319 Speaker 1: I I'm not about to write anyone off after a 1010 00:49:57,360 --> 00:49:59,919 Speaker 1: season and a half number one, but he's not he's 1011 00:50:00,040 --> 00:50:02,279 Speaker 1: not progressing in the offense. There's a positive way to 1012 00:50:02,320 --> 00:50:04,239 Speaker 1: look at it. By the way, if you're a Titans fan, 1013 00:50:04,719 --> 00:50:06,960 Speaker 1: I'm sure there are quite quite a few out there 1014 00:50:07,840 --> 00:50:09,960 Speaker 1: you almost want the season to go into the tank. 1015 00:50:10,120 --> 00:50:11,799 Speaker 1: Is a lot of people don't like Ken wizzen Hunt. 1016 00:50:12,000 --> 00:50:14,719 Speaker 1: They don't like the offensive scheme. And you get to 1017 00:50:14,760 --> 00:50:18,040 Speaker 1: reboot the machine and get a healthy um Marcus Mariota 1018 00:50:18,120 --> 00:50:21,440 Speaker 1: next season, and maybe a three and thirteen insures that, 1019 00:50:21,520 --> 00:50:23,439 Speaker 1: whereas maybe a six and ten you might get stuck. 1020 00:50:23,440 --> 00:50:26,399 Speaker 1: With wisdom, they've lost sixteen of seventeen games, but then 1021 00:50:26,440 --> 00:50:28,480 Speaker 1: you're starting a whole new offense. I mean, that's that's 1022 00:50:29,080 --> 00:50:31,600 Speaker 1: that sounds nice, but that's what the Titans have been doing. 1023 00:50:31,680 --> 00:50:33,399 Speaker 1: You know, the Titans just did that to get Ken 1024 00:50:33,400 --> 00:50:35,719 Speaker 1: wizzen Hunt. It's not like that solved anything. If you're 1025 00:50:36,200 --> 00:50:38,040 Speaker 1: you want to look on the bright side. They just 1026 00:50:38,120 --> 00:50:39,959 Speaker 1: lost a game to the soon to be first place 1027 00:50:40,000 --> 00:50:44,160 Speaker 1: Houston Texans after Monday. When you think about that division, 1028 00:50:44,200 --> 00:50:46,759 Speaker 1: how awful it is. They were annihilated by the Dolphins, 1029 00:50:46,800 --> 00:50:50,120 Speaker 1: they just cut mallet and now they're three and five 1030 00:50:50,400 --> 00:50:54,040 Speaker 1: and they're just I mean, right there, we boxed theirselves 1031 00:50:54,040 --> 00:50:57,440 Speaker 1: into a corner, forking the Jags and Texans. Now the 1032 00:50:57,480 --> 00:50:59,600 Speaker 1: Titans are out there in the way. We gotta go 1033 00:50:59,719 --> 00:51:02,400 Speaker 1: with the division. We get the committee together, Colin, do 1034 00:51:02,400 --> 00:51:04,480 Speaker 1: you want to join us again? This time to get 1035 00:51:04,480 --> 00:51:06,040 Speaker 1: to Danish. But you gotta get there early because the 1036 00:51:06,080 --> 00:51:09,600 Speaker 1: Danish goes quick. I told you that. Yeah, wait until 1037 00:51:09,640 --> 00:51:11,440 Speaker 1: you see what folks do Monday. And I think you're 1038 00:51:11,440 --> 00:51:15,279 Speaker 1: gonna want to fork the whole division. Let's won't back down. 1039 00:51:15,480 --> 00:51:18,960 Speaker 1: How about this. We gotta at least consider the Titans 1040 00:51:19,040 --> 00:51:22,040 Speaker 1: now at one in six, working the whole division. Now, 1041 00:51:22,120 --> 00:51:25,799 Speaker 1: let's see what we gotta fork the whole thing. Oh, 1042 00:51:25,840 --> 00:51:29,040 Speaker 1: someone had a good idea, by the way, someone say yes, 1043 00:51:29,120 --> 00:51:32,480 Speaker 1: fork the whole division. And then the winner of the division, 1044 00:51:32,640 --> 00:51:34,520 Speaker 1: we give the money to the charity from the winner 1045 00:51:34,680 --> 00:51:37,319 Speaker 1: said that? Did we say that? Yeah? Never mind? It 1046 00:51:37,360 --> 00:51:40,920 Speaker 1: was a brilliant idea referencing ourselves. But I always I 1047 00:51:40,920 --> 00:51:42,680 Speaker 1: don't wanna. I don't know. Let's see, let's see what 1048 00:51:42,719 --> 00:51:45,520 Speaker 1: happens with the cults. I'm under all right, Yeah, alright, 1049 00:51:45,560 --> 00:51:48,879 Speaker 1: moving on the St. Louis. The St. Louis Rams wrote 1050 00:51:48,920 --> 00:51:53,799 Speaker 1: an increasingly familiar formula on Sunday, suffocating defense, impact play 1051 00:51:53,880 --> 00:51:56,720 Speaker 1: some Todd Gurley add it all up at twenty seven 1052 00:51:56,719 --> 00:52:00,640 Speaker 1: to six win over the Stinky I guess Stink San 1053 00:52:00,640 --> 00:52:04,839 Speaker 1: Francisco forty Niners. A game that exactly what you kind 1054 00:52:04,840 --> 00:52:07,160 Speaker 1: of would imagine from this game to be, which was 1055 00:52:07,640 --> 00:52:12,160 Speaker 1: Todd Gurley looking special. I wrote in our recap piece 1056 00:52:12,160 --> 00:52:16,400 Speaker 1: where what's it called again? Greg? What's our our weekly 1057 00:52:17,360 --> 00:52:20,560 Speaker 1: what we Learned? What we Learned? Piece? Simply been the 1058 00:52:20,560 --> 00:52:23,160 Speaker 1: title for four years from Yes, well Greg could help 1059 00:52:23,200 --> 00:52:28,359 Speaker 1: me out there? Your special Rams? Oh no, no, no, no, 1060 00:52:28,360 --> 00:52:31,120 Speaker 1: no no, our weekly recap, the thirty four things we 1061 00:52:31,200 --> 00:52:33,680 Speaker 1: learned or whatever it is. I have seen the future 1062 00:52:33,680 --> 00:52:35,720 Speaker 1: of the running back position in the NFL. It's Tip Gurley. 1063 00:52:36,280 --> 00:52:39,400 Speaker 1: This guy is special. He went through the middle of 1064 00:52:39,400 --> 00:52:41,839 Speaker 1: the Niners defense on a seventy one yard touchdown run 1065 00:52:42,200 --> 00:52:44,360 Speaker 1: where he was again it was it was very good blocking, 1066 00:52:44,360 --> 00:52:47,560 Speaker 1: but he just has that gear that very few players have. 1067 00:52:48,080 --> 00:52:50,720 Speaker 1: Special to watch and and that's really all you needed. 1068 00:52:50,719 --> 00:52:53,319 Speaker 1: They were down three too at the point of this run. 1069 00:52:53,360 --> 00:52:55,640 Speaker 1: And if you're watching on YouTube and NFL now you 1070 00:52:55,640 --> 00:52:58,319 Speaker 1: can see it, uh that the game was over at 1071 00:52:58,320 --> 00:53:00,600 Speaker 1: this point. It was eight three after this run. They 1072 00:53:00,640 --> 00:53:03,239 Speaker 1: did get the two point conversion because the Niners are 1073 00:53:03,280 --> 00:53:05,720 Speaker 1: that bad on offense, and I don't know what else. 1074 00:53:06,160 --> 00:53:08,200 Speaker 1: At this point, Jim Tomsila has gotta worry about his 1075 00:53:08,280 --> 00:53:10,520 Speaker 1: job and he's got to think to himself. I know, 1076 00:53:10,600 --> 00:53:12,839 Speaker 1: blame Gabet's not good. There's a lot of evidence of that. 1077 00:53:13,080 --> 00:53:15,640 Speaker 1: But how much longer can I run Colm Kaepernick out 1078 00:53:15,640 --> 00:53:19,800 Speaker 1: there without risking this team quitting on me? Kaepernick average 1079 00:53:19,880 --> 00:53:22,920 Speaker 1: four yards in attempt over forty one passes in this 1080 00:53:22,960 --> 00:53:25,680 Speaker 1: game and just looked completely out of out of his 1081 00:53:25,719 --> 00:53:27,960 Speaker 1: element once again. And you included in your post the 1082 00:53:28,400 --> 00:53:32,040 Speaker 1: clip of Kaepernick, you know, about to take the snap 1083 00:53:32,160 --> 00:53:35,279 Speaker 1: and he's got a wide receiver out on the sidelines saying, 1084 00:53:35,320 --> 00:53:37,799 Speaker 1: excuse me, Tory Smith, I am wide open. There isn't 1085 00:53:37,800 --> 00:53:40,560 Speaker 1: a single human being around me. Doesn't even see it. 1086 00:53:40,680 --> 00:53:43,080 Speaker 1: He's freaking out too. There's not much more he could 1087 00:53:43,120 --> 00:53:46,160 Speaker 1: do to get Kaepernick's attention. And there's a receiver on 1088 00:53:46,200 --> 00:53:48,120 Speaker 1: the other side too, And and it seems like a 1089 00:53:48,160 --> 00:53:50,359 Speaker 1: funny play that it's almost unfair to make fun of him. 1090 00:53:50,400 --> 00:53:52,760 Speaker 1: But this is the precise reason why I think Colin 1091 00:53:52,840 --> 00:53:56,239 Speaker 1: Kaepernick is struggling as a quarterback is his awareness is 1092 00:53:56,280 --> 00:54:00,640 Speaker 1: awareness of everything going on around him at or thirty 1093 00:54:00,680 --> 00:54:03,000 Speaker 1: other quarterbacks are going to notice that in that situation 1094 00:54:03,040 --> 00:54:05,760 Speaker 1: and throw it to him. He just never he's never 1095 00:54:05,800 --> 00:54:08,640 Speaker 1: made the leap as a quarterback and grown. Um the 1096 00:54:08,920 --> 00:54:11,480 Speaker 1: running back. The running game for the Niners is terrible, 1097 00:54:12,080 --> 00:54:16,120 Speaker 1: Mike James, uh and um, there was a character named 1098 00:54:16,200 --> 00:54:21,239 Speaker 1: Kendall Gaskins Mike Davis and I'm not familiar with Kendall's work. 1099 00:54:21,760 --> 00:54:26,520 Speaker 1: They combined on ten yards and the Hayin plane might 1100 00:54:26,520 --> 00:54:29,120 Speaker 1: be coming back because Reggie Bush and by the way, 1101 00:54:29,320 --> 00:54:31,920 Speaker 1: Edward James almost don't, Oh my gosh, that's an awful 1102 00:54:32,400 --> 00:54:37,240 Speaker 1: act together. They have concrete, unprotected concrete that runs around 1103 00:54:37,320 --> 00:54:40,360 Speaker 1: the uh you know, the barrier between the stands and 1104 00:54:40,440 --> 00:54:43,880 Speaker 1: the sideline. Last week, Josh McCown ran onto the concrete, 1105 00:54:44,040 --> 00:54:47,880 Speaker 1: slipped into the wall, banged his chest and shoulder. In 1106 00:54:47,920 --> 00:54:52,000 Speaker 1: today's game, Reggie Bush blew out his knee. I mean, 1107 00:54:52,040 --> 00:54:56,879 Speaker 1: two weeks in a row. Maybe the fire. There's all 1108 00:54:56,920 --> 00:54:59,799 Speaker 1: sorts of issues going on inside the end. Perhaps now 1109 00:54:59,800 --> 00:55:01,200 Speaker 1: at a want to look too much into it. But 1110 00:55:01,239 --> 00:55:04,360 Speaker 1: there's only one owner in this California thing that's actively 1111 00:55:04,360 --> 00:55:06,680 Speaker 1: trying to get out of the city, and the stadium 1112 00:55:06,680 --> 00:55:09,480 Speaker 1: has turned into like the final level of Super Mario Brothers. 1113 00:55:09,520 --> 00:55:13,719 Speaker 1: It's a total disaster minefield. It could be the you know, 1114 00:55:13,760 --> 00:55:16,080 Speaker 1: we're joking. It could be the last play of Reggie 1115 00:55:16,120 --> 00:55:18,200 Speaker 1: Bush's career, and there's no guarantee that he's going to 1116 00:55:18,320 --> 00:55:20,839 Speaker 1: get a chance to play again. And ultimately he felt 1117 00:55:20,880 --> 00:55:22,200 Speaker 1: like he was a little bit at the end of 1118 00:55:22,200 --> 00:55:24,480 Speaker 1: the line this season. This is a guy who when 1119 00:55:24,520 --> 00:55:26,440 Speaker 1: he came to the league and even the impact he 1120 00:55:26,480 --> 00:55:28,200 Speaker 1: had early on with the Saints, one of the biggest 1121 00:55:28,200 --> 00:55:31,520 Speaker 1: stars in the entire NFL and ultimately a disappointing career, 1122 00:55:31,560 --> 00:55:34,200 Speaker 1: I think, but had his moments, especially with your team, 1123 00:55:34,239 --> 00:55:37,319 Speaker 1: the Saints, Greg in Miami. I think that changed my 1124 00:55:37,400 --> 00:55:39,680 Speaker 1: perception of it. Then when he ran for a thousand yards, 1125 00:55:39,680 --> 00:55:46,080 Speaker 1: which is averaging, talked about underwhelming career. Yes, Todd Gurley 1126 00:55:46,640 --> 00:55:49,760 Speaker 1: five best five games start in NFL history for a rookie, 1127 00:55:50,360 --> 00:55:52,759 Speaker 1: missed two games and barely played in a third, is 1128 00:55:52,760 --> 00:55:55,919 Speaker 1: on pace to break Eric Dickerson's rookie rushing record. All 1129 00:55:55,960 --> 00:55:59,160 Speaker 1: you liver or livered. People who couldn't couldn't say after 1130 00:55:59,239 --> 00:56:01,560 Speaker 1: three games he is great. Maybe we'll give him five 1131 00:56:01,640 --> 00:56:03,439 Speaker 1: years and then you'll finally be on board. Without great 1132 00:56:03,480 --> 00:56:08,000 Speaker 1: to maybe it'll take him dragging this Rams team to 1133 00:56:08,120 --> 00:56:10,840 Speaker 1: the playoffs, just like I predicted it for the season. 1134 00:56:10,840 --> 00:56:13,200 Speaker 1: They're starting to beat the bad teams. We said, Okay, 1135 00:56:13,360 --> 00:56:15,279 Speaker 1: is this Rams team any different than they're gonna take 1136 00:56:15,280 --> 00:56:17,719 Speaker 1: care of business against some of these back they're taking 1137 00:56:17,719 --> 00:56:19,560 Speaker 1: care of business because they are as ugly as possible 1138 00:56:19,560 --> 00:56:21,400 Speaker 1: and throwing the ball. And we've also given up twelve 1139 00:56:21,480 --> 00:56:23,320 Speaker 1: points in two weeks. I mean they have a legit 1140 00:56:23,400 --> 00:56:25,840 Speaker 1: def Well, that's yeah, that's you're right. It has nothing 1141 00:56:25,840 --> 00:56:28,440 Speaker 1: to do with Trey Mason. But they're the most exciting. Yes, 1142 00:56:30,880 --> 00:56:33,840 Speaker 1: well also because one of them would step up a 1143 00:56:33,840 --> 00:56:36,800 Speaker 1: good couple of minutes. The most exciting running back in 1144 00:56:36,840 --> 00:56:40,200 Speaker 1: the league. What was the last time scored a touchdown? 1145 00:56:40,680 --> 00:56:47,160 Speaker 1: Like I'm actually remembering here, here's August good last two weeks, 1146 00:56:47,280 --> 00:56:52,799 Speaker 1: nineteen first downs and nineteen punt that's hard to do. 1147 00:56:53,680 --> 00:56:57,080 Speaker 1: It's the year two thousand and fifteen, and Kendall Gaskins, 1148 00:56:57,080 --> 00:56:59,919 Speaker 1: as you mentioned, was their leading running back with five 1149 00:57:00,000 --> 00:57:03,080 Speaker 1: of yards or six yards and their two leading receivers 1150 00:57:03,120 --> 00:57:08,120 Speaker 1: today were Jerome Simpson and Quentin Patton. It's not good. 1151 00:57:08,840 --> 00:57:10,960 Speaker 1: It's not good. By the way, again, another reason to 1152 00:57:11,000 --> 00:57:15,200 Speaker 1: watch our show on YouTube. Greg's reaction to West seating 1153 00:57:15,520 --> 00:57:18,360 Speaker 1: or saying that the St. Louis Friends backfield is the 1154 00:57:18,400 --> 00:57:21,520 Speaker 1: most exciting. The hand motions it's wild. Well like any 1155 00:57:21,600 --> 00:57:24,960 Speaker 1: West trying to give in on a point. He included 1156 00:57:25,000 --> 00:57:29,560 Speaker 1: some technicality, whereas he's not really saying West does build 1157 00:57:29,600 --> 00:57:32,840 Speaker 1: in those back doors the back door man, it was like, 1158 00:57:34,760 --> 00:57:39,120 Speaker 1: no comment. We uh, we should move on and we 1159 00:57:39,160 --> 00:57:42,200 Speaker 1: will talk about did you have something else to say? 1160 00:57:44,280 --> 00:57:46,840 Speaker 1: Let's move onto the black hole where Derek Carr threw 1161 00:57:46,880 --> 00:57:50,320 Speaker 1: for four through four touchdown passes in Latavius Murray went 1162 00:57:50,360 --> 00:57:52,840 Speaker 1: over the one yard mark for the second time the season, 1163 00:57:53,560 --> 00:57:55,800 Speaker 1: leading the Raiders to a thirty four to twenty win 1164 00:57:55,960 --> 00:57:58,720 Speaker 1: over Yes, the New York Jets, who have now lost 1165 00:57:58,960 --> 00:58:01,640 Speaker 1: two in a row. And uh, by the way, don't 1166 00:58:01,640 --> 00:58:04,439 Speaker 1: look now, but the Jets and the Raiders both four 1167 00:58:04,480 --> 00:58:06,000 Speaker 1: and three. When you look at that a f C 1168 00:58:06,120 --> 00:58:10,320 Speaker 1: wild card picture which is increasingly muddled. Now the Raiders 1169 00:58:10,360 --> 00:58:12,480 Speaker 1: have to head to head tiebreaker over the Jets. So 1170 00:58:12,520 --> 00:58:14,720 Speaker 1: that could be huge in a couple of months. If 1171 00:58:14,720 --> 00:58:17,120 Speaker 1: the Raiders continue to look like a team that we 1172 00:58:17,120 --> 00:58:19,280 Speaker 1: should take seriously. And I'll say it again. I said 1173 00:58:19,280 --> 00:58:21,720 Speaker 1: it last week, the Raiders of the team that we 1174 00:58:21,920 --> 00:58:24,480 Speaker 1: you know we four teams. When we four teams, that 1175 00:58:24,520 --> 00:58:27,160 Speaker 1: says we don't think there's any chance they make the playoffs. 1176 00:58:27,440 --> 00:58:29,760 Speaker 1: And guess what, the Raiders they look real good. And 1177 00:58:29,840 --> 00:58:32,480 Speaker 1: Derek Carr's a major reason why. Uh he threw for 1178 00:58:32,520 --> 00:58:36,400 Speaker 1: three thirty three yards, uh not forty three touchdowns four 1179 00:58:36,440 --> 00:58:40,160 Speaker 1: touchdowns and you know you you add it all up 1180 00:58:40,160 --> 00:58:43,880 Speaker 1: if he's gonna play at that level. And even with 1181 00:58:44,160 --> 00:58:46,160 Speaker 1: Durrell Reeves on the opposite side of the field and 1182 00:58:46,240 --> 00:58:48,919 Speaker 1: Rivers did a nice job holding a Mark Cooper in check, 1183 00:58:49,360 --> 00:58:53,640 Speaker 1: he's still finding us. He got um Michael Crabtree going 1184 00:58:53,680 --> 00:58:55,640 Speaker 1: for a hundred yards and a touchdown, which you would 1185 00:58:55,640 --> 00:58:57,520 Speaker 1: think would be hard to do in two thousand fifteen. 1186 00:58:57,760 --> 00:59:00,800 Speaker 1: He got Latavius Murray in the mix. Taiwan Jones. I mean, 1187 00:59:00,840 --> 00:59:03,480 Speaker 1: this offense has some weapons and they were making plays 1188 00:59:03,720 --> 00:59:05,960 Speaker 1: right all year with the Jet's defense look terrible. Give 1189 00:59:06,040 --> 00:59:09,760 Speaker 1: craftree uh some credit. He's looked good all year. He's 1190 00:59:09,800 --> 00:59:12,760 Speaker 1: one of the better free agent bargains of the entire year. 1191 00:59:13,040 --> 00:59:15,800 Speaker 1: And uh, I think we owe an apology, especially Westling, 1192 00:59:15,840 --> 00:59:18,600 Speaker 1: if we're gonna start battling tonight to Reggie Mackenzie. We 1193 00:59:18,680 --> 00:59:22,960 Speaker 1: buried Reggie Mackenzie more than we could ever bury anyway. 1194 00:59:23,080 --> 00:59:27,360 Speaker 1: I'm just saying he's built a team that has developed. 1195 00:59:28,040 --> 00:59:33,640 Speaker 1: Apologize young. I don't really expect an apology. He's made 1196 00:59:33,720 --> 00:59:36,919 Speaker 1: for the match shop trade. Reggie Mackenzie, buddy. We we've 1197 00:59:36,920 --> 00:59:40,640 Speaker 1: been saying the job that he needs to be fired. 1198 00:59:40,680 --> 00:59:42,040 Speaker 1: He should have been fired last year. That's what we 1199 00:59:42,080 --> 00:59:44,320 Speaker 1: said all that and right now they're a young team 1200 00:59:44,320 --> 00:59:45,920 Speaker 1: on the rise that has allowed to be excited. I 1201 00:59:45,960 --> 00:59:49,960 Speaker 1: think any GM could have drafted a Maori Cooper or 1202 00:59:50,040 --> 00:59:52,920 Speaker 1: Khalil mack He deserves a ton of credit because everyone 1203 00:59:52,960 --> 00:59:55,000 Speaker 1: passed on Derek Carr, and he identified him as a 1204 00:59:55,000 --> 00:59:57,840 Speaker 1: franchise quarterback. And that's the most important move that any 1205 00:59:57,920 --> 01:00:01,200 Speaker 1: GM can make is locating the French passer. And maybe 1206 01:00:01,200 --> 01:00:03,240 Speaker 1: that's where the apologies, because I think there were doubts 1207 01:00:03,280 --> 01:00:05,520 Speaker 1: about Derek Carr in this room, and I think that 1208 01:00:05,600 --> 01:00:08,200 Speaker 1: Derek Carr has turned into it looks like a really 1209 01:00:08,320 --> 01:00:11,520 Speaker 1: good young passer. And that's the difference for all bad 1210 01:00:11,600 --> 01:00:14,280 Speaker 1: franchises and good franchises. Do you have the quarterback and 1211 01:00:14,320 --> 01:00:16,680 Speaker 1: they might actually have the quarterback. It's not crazy to 1212 01:00:16,720 --> 01:00:18,479 Speaker 1: think that this team could win nine or ten games. 1213 01:00:18,520 --> 01:00:20,280 Speaker 1: And on the you know, on flip side, we were 1214 01:00:20,320 --> 01:00:23,360 Speaker 1: watching the Jets today and Ryan Fitzpatrick is a patch. 1215 01:00:23,440 --> 01:00:25,800 Speaker 1: Is a one year patch, right, and then incomes Geno 1216 01:00:25,840 --> 01:00:28,800 Speaker 1: Smith and the trouble begins and I'm done with the 1217 01:00:28,840 --> 01:00:31,120 Speaker 1: Geno Smith business. This guy needs to not be on 1218 01:00:31,160 --> 01:00:37,560 Speaker 1: any football team, especially not New Well, let's let's just 1219 01:00:37,640 --> 01:00:40,200 Speaker 1: let's go through it. First of all, Ryan Fitzpatrick on 1220 01:00:40,280 --> 01:00:43,439 Speaker 1: the first series of the game goes into a QB 1221 01:00:43,600 --> 01:00:45,680 Speaker 1: slide or not a QB slad. This is gonna because 1222 01:00:45,680 --> 01:00:48,160 Speaker 1: he's been doing this a lot, gets hit and suffers 1223 01:00:48,200 --> 01:00:50,880 Speaker 1: ligament damage in his thumb. He'll have an MRI I tomorrow. 1224 01:00:51,120 --> 01:00:53,720 Speaker 1: He could end up missing significant time, which is bad 1225 01:00:53,720 --> 01:00:57,000 Speaker 1: news for the Jets. Gino Smith pressed into action. Uh 1226 01:00:57,440 --> 01:00:59,800 Speaker 1: did have moments in this game, and this is really 1227 01:00:59,800 --> 01:01:04,120 Speaker 1: the some of them, right, this is the Geno Coaster experience. 1228 01:01:04,680 --> 01:01:06,439 Speaker 1: Game was the best part of the Jets team though 1229 01:01:06,480 --> 01:01:09,640 Speaker 1: by far. Righteah you can make excuses for Geno Smith 1230 01:01:09,800 --> 01:01:12,480 Speaker 1: all season long. I just I think this is the 1231 01:01:12,560 --> 01:01:15,440 Speaker 1: Jets need to find another quarterback right away. All right, 1232 01:01:16,080 --> 01:01:18,080 Speaker 1: let me just get to this point. You know, Gina 1233 01:01:18,120 --> 01:01:21,520 Speaker 1: Smith played pretty well in a backup role today, but 1234 01:01:21,800 --> 01:01:24,280 Speaker 1: it is still you were complaining about him the whole game. 1235 01:01:24,680 --> 01:01:26,800 Speaker 1: He makes This is why he's the Geno Coaster is 1236 01:01:26,840 --> 01:01:30,480 Speaker 1: because he makes him plays. He kept him somewhat alive 1237 01:01:30,520 --> 01:01:32,840 Speaker 1: for most of the game despite them being heavily outplayed 1238 01:01:32,840 --> 01:01:36,040 Speaker 1: on defense. But he makes the mental and physical errors 1239 01:01:36,040 --> 01:01:39,240 Speaker 1: and holding onto the ball too long, not sensing what's 1240 01:01:39,240 --> 01:01:41,000 Speaker 1: going on in the pocket, not getting out of bounds 1241 01:01:41,040 --> 01:01:43,280 Speaker 1: on a long run, and taking a crushing shot to 1242 01:01:43,360 --> 01:01:45,720 Speaker 1: his chest. That kind of stuff that just leaves you 1243 01:01:45,840 --> 01:01:48,320 Speaker 1: scratching your head and you don't want that guy leading 1244 01:01:48,360 --> 01:01:51,320 Speaker 1: your team. I think he's okay as a backup, but 1245 01:01:51,440 --> 01:01:53,440 Speaker 1: if he's going to be the starter for the Jets 1246 01:01:53,480 --> 01:01:56,040 Speaker 1: for a period of weeks, you could kiss the playoffs 1247 01:01:56,040 --> 01:01:58,000 Speaker 1: good by. He's gonna make That's all I'm saying. I 1248 01:01:58,040 --> 01:02:00,560 Speaker 1: just I think this is guy. He's too inconsistent. He 1249 01:02:00,640 --> 01:02:03,080 Speaker 1: has these ceiling moments. But the last two minutes of 1250 01:02:03,080 --> 01:02:06,200 Speaker 1: the Jets the last two drives. Offense was a disaster. 1251 01:02:06,240 --> 01:02:08,040 Speaker 1: But this is typical of what's going to happen in 1252 01:02:08,080 --> 01:02:10,240 Speaker 1: New York this week. The Jets didn't get a stop 1253 01:02:10,320 --> 01:02:13,400 Speaker 1: until five minutes left in the game. They literally did 1254 01:02:13,400 --> 01:02:18,480 Speaker 1: not stop the Waters number one right, exactly the rate 1255 01:02:18,520 --> 01:02:21,560 Speaker 1: of the Jets got what was it, eighteen yards seventeen 1256 01:02:21,600 --> 01:02:24,440 Speaker 1: yards running on fifteen carriers from Chris Ivory. But all 1257 01:02:24,440 --> 01:02:26,400 Speaker 1: the talk is gonna be well the lost fitz Patrick 1258 01:02:26,520 --> 01:02:29,240 Speaker 1: last Gina. It was as bad a defensive performance as 1259 01:02:29,240 --> 01:02:31,720 Speaker 1: you could ever possibly Tackling was bad for the first 1260 01:02:31,760 --> 01:02:34,680 Speaker 1: time in this all this season. Tackling was terrible, especially 1261 01:02:34,720 --> 01:02:37,120 Speaker 1: on that Tyler and Jones touchdown as four missed tackles. 1262 01:02:37,480 --> 01:02:39,640 Speaker 1: They have an issue then that they have this gifted, 1263 01:02:39,680 --> 01:02:42,840 Speaker 1: young defensive line, but they still can't put pressure on 1264 01:02:42,880 --> 01:02:45,720 Speaker 1: the quarterback or at least get sacks out the quarterback, 1265 01:02:46,120 --> 01:02:48,640 Speaker 1: and that's leading to issues that when the when the 1266 01:02:48,720 --> 01:02:51,120 Speaker 1: secondary is not playing at a high level, and it 1267 01:02:51,160 --> 01:02:55,160 Speaker 1: wasn't today. Antonio Carmara used an expletive to describe his 1268 01:02:55,240 --> 01:02:58,320 Speaker 1: play after the game. Marcus Williams, they took a gamble 1269 01:02:58,360 --> 01:03:00,120 Speaker 1: tie bowls and it blew up in their face is, 1270 01:03:00,160 --> 01:03:03,120 Speaker 1: who's a decent third backup corner type of guy. They 1271 01:03:03,160 --> 01:03:05,640 Speaker 1: put him into a safety role and he got absolutely 1272 01:03:05,680 --> 01:03:09,320 Speaker 1: shredded by Michael Crabtree in this game. So that didn't 1273 01:03:09,320 --> 01:03:11,120 Speaker 1: work out. So the secondary is not going to be 1274 01:03:11,160 --> 01:03:13,480 Speaker 1: at the top level and you're against a good quarterback 1275 01:03:13,520 --> 01:03:15,760 Speaker 1: and that's what Derek car is playing like. They're in trouble. 1276 01:03:15,800 --> 01:03:17,240 Speaker 1: I mean, there was a lot to get nervous, but 1277 01:03:17,280 --> 01:03:20,320 Speaker 1: even Latavia's Murray, everyone in the world was predicting he 1278 01:03:20,360 --> 01:03:23,160 Speaker 1: wasn't gonna do anything. He was running through this Jet's defense. 1279 01:03:23,160 --> 01:03:25,760 Speaker 1: It was just not a good effort. Yeah, over words 1280 01:03:25,800 --> 01:03:28,160 Speaker 1: again for him. But you go into this game and 1281 01:03:28,200 --> 01:03:30,600 Speaker 1: you think, like this Jets defense and Todd Bowles, the 1282 01:03:30,680 --> 01:03:32,600 Speaker 1: Raiders don't have a chance at all. Now the Raiders 1283 01:03:32,600 --> 01:03:36,040 Speaker 1: are four and three. Dann's team loses thirty four storty 1284 01:03:36,080 --> 01:03:38,560 Speaker 1: four to twenty. My team loses thirty four to twenty. 1285 01:03:38,720 --> 01:03:41,840 Speaker 1: There will be drinkings win a tough game on the road. 1286 01:03:41,880 --> 01:03:43,440 Speaker 1: That that's tough for West. I mean, this is an 1287 01:03:43,440 --> 01:03:45,600 Speaker 1: offensive team though this is there. Oh, they are an 1288 01:03:45,600 --> 01:03:49,280 Speaker 1: explosive offensive defense for Oakland's not and they're one of 1289 01:03:49,280 --> 01:03:51,360 Speaker 1: the hottest teams in the league. The Raiders are and 1290 01:03:51,440 --> 01:03:54,080 Speaker 1: next week they go from up and coming team that 1291 01:03:54,200 --> 01:03:57,800 Speaker 1: surprised us to legitimate wild guard Denner. They go into 1292 01:03:57,840 --> 01:04:00,000 Speaker 1: Pittsburgh next week. They can really make an even bigger 1293 01:04:00,040 --> 01:04:03,000 Speaker 1: statement then, and people are telling on Twitter, you know, 1294 01:04:03,040 --> 01:04:04,919 Speaker 1: people like to have their fun when the Jets lose 1295 01:04:05,000 --> 01:04:08,080 Speaker 1: and whatever. Guys, I will say this. You know, people 1296 01:04:08,080 --> 01:04:12,800 Speaker 1: are like, they're time to unforked the Raiders. There is 1297 01:04:12,840 --> 01:04:15,960 Speaker 1: no unforking. Yeah, and whether we whether we like to 1298 01:04:16,120 --> 01:04:18,840 Speaker 1: or not, is a different conversation. But we just don't. 1299 01:04:19,160 --> 01:04:21,120 Speaker 1: Once we fork a team, at that time we have 1300 01:04:21,200 --> 01:04:23,920 Speaker 1: made the decision. They have no chance of making the playoffs. 1301 01:04:24,320 --> 01:04:27,320 Speaker 1: But in this case, it's starting to look tricky. Greg 1302 01:04:27,360 --> 01:04:30,200 Speaker 1: has a big donation go into the Oakland Bay area 1303 01:04:30,280 --> 01:04:34,160 Speaker 1: young Republicans. How about the open Save our Team fund? 1304 01:04:36,400 --> 01:04:38,360 Speaker 1: Maybe this is gonna be like the script to a 1305 01:04:39,200 --> 01:04:41,960 Speaker 1: Disney where they win the Super Bowl and keep the 1306 01:04:42,040 --> 01:04:45,479 Speaker 1: team in town. You can do it there. You're gonna 1307 01:04:45,560 --> 01:04:48,919 Speaker 1: your charity donation is gonna keep the team. I'm saying 1308 01:04:48,960 --> 01:04:51,640 Speaker 1: they're they're gonna win the Super Bowl. Well that'll keep 1309 01:04:51,680 --> 01:04:55,200 Speaker 1: them in Oakland. What's gonna happen? Are really more of 1310 01:04:55,280 --> 01:04:59,160 Speaker 1: like a vessel to raise his profile. So that would 1311 01:04:59,360 --> 01:05:01,640 Speaker 1: make philanthro paste. This is it more about getting the 1312 01:05:01,760 --> 01:05:04,520 Speaker 1: you know, the acclaim for being a philanthropist. Right, Okay, 1313 01:05:04,600 --> 01:05:07,160 Speaker 1: so let's move Colleen. Why don't you stick around for 1314 01:05:07,200 --> 01:05:10,400 Speaker 1: Sunday night football. Let's talk about it. It was a 1315 01:05:10,560 --> 01:05:13,440 Speaker 1: game that two undefeated teams and you're thinking, oh, this 1316 01:05:13,480 --> 01:05:15,440 Speaker 1: is gonna go down to the wire. Alan, Chris is 1317 01:05:15,480 --> 01:05:17,760 Speaker 1: gonna be all pumped up. But guess what, it didn't 1318 01:05:17,760 --> 01:05:19,360 Speaker 1: work out that in a way at all. It was 1319 01:05:19,440 --> 01:05:23,080 Speaker 1: a one sided affair. Peyton Manning went T nine for 1320 01:05:23,160 --> 01:05:26,280 Speaker 1: three forty yards, no interception, throwing the ball like it's 1321 01:05:26,280 --> 01:05:29,160 Speaker 1: two thousand thirteen. C J. Anderson goes over a hundred 1322 01:05:29,240 --> 01:05:31,520 Speaker 1: yards with a touch. Who saw that coming? And even 1323 01:05:31,560 --> 01:05:33,880 Speaker 1: more shocking to me, the most shocking stat line of 1324 01:05:33,920 --> 01:05:37,680 Speaker 1: the entire season. Aaron Rodgers, the greatest quarterback of life, 1325 01:05:37,680 --> 01:05:40,640 Speaker 1: throws for seventy seven yards. You could do the math 1326 01:05:41,160 --> 01:05:44,920 Speaker 1: awe ten win for the Broncos over the Packers. It 1327 01:05:45,040 --> 01:05:48,720 Speaker 1: is the Broncos who remain undefeated and looking like one 1328 01:05:48,720 --> 01:05:51,080 Speaker 1: of the very best teams in the NFL. And Greg, 1329 01:05:51,680 --> 01:05:53,920 Speaker 1: you know, we were saying downstairs while we were watching 1330 01:05:53,960 --> 01:05:57,080 Speaker 1: this game. If the Broncos could even get average play 1331 01:05:57,080 --> 01:05:59,800 Speaker 1: on offense and average played from their quarterback position, it's 1332 01:06:00,000 --> 01:06:02,000 Speaker 1: time to look at them differently. Is not a float 1333 01:06:02,080 --> 01:06:04,360 Speaker 1: underfea the team, but a potential Super Bowl contender. This 1334 01:06:04,440 --> 01:06:06,560 Speaker 1: is one of the most significant results of the season. 1335 01:06:06,600 --> 01:06:08,920 Speaker 1: I don't think that's stepping out on a limb because 1336 01:06:09,240 --> 01:06:11,800 Speaker 1: the score doesn't indicate what a boat race this is. 1337 01:06:11,840 --> 01:06:15,840 Speaker 1: The Broncos just played the Packers team that's a little 1338 01:06:15,840 --> 01:06:20,200 Speaker 1: bit healthier, five hundred yards to a hundred forty total yards. 1339 01:06:20,240 --> 01:06:24,360 Speaker 1: If you put the Patriots up against the Texans each week, 1340 01:06:24,360 --> 01:06:27,040 Speaker 1: you would not expect it to be that one sided 1341 01:06:27,120 --> 01:06:29,200 Speaker 1: of an NFL game. So the Packers did a good 1342 01:06:29,280 --> 01:06:32,720 Speaker 1: job to even keep this close. But Denver did exactly 1343 01:06:32,760 --> 01:06:35,000 Speaker 1: what they wanted to do on offense. The run game 1344 01:06:35,040 --> 01:06:38,160 Speaker 1: looked like a Carrie Gary Kubiak running game. Peyton Manning 1345 01:06:38,200 --> 01:06:40,720 Speaker 1: went down the field, and the Denver defense played even 1346 01:06:40,760 --> 01:06:43,240 Speaker 1: better than you would expect against this Packers offen I 1347 01:06:43,240 --> 01:06:45,000 Speaker 1: mean it was, it was unbelievable. We have just start 1348 01:06:45,040 --> 01:06:47,720 Speaker 1: to ask if this Broncos defense is one of the 1349 01:06:47,720 --> 01:06:55,000 Speaker 1: best we've ever seen. Yeah, and Aaron Rodgers. They made 1350 01:06:55,120 --> 01:06:58,320 Speaker 1: him look shaky. He had as good at half a 1351 01:06:58,360 --> 01:07:00,640 Speaker 1: season as any half a sea is in that we see, 1352 01:07:00,640 --> 01:07:03,600 Speaker 1: I mean there's plenty. Rogers previous low in the game 1353 01:07:03,680 --> 01:07:06,240 Speaker 1: was one two and it was seventy seven tonight, so 1354 01:07:06,320 --> 01:07:09,680 Speaker 1: that was significantly lower than any game he started and finished. 1355 01:07:09,680 --> 01:07:11,960 Speaker 1: And I think if you're the Broncos and you sat 1356 01:07:12,000 --> 01:07:14,680 Speaker 1: down over the bar and tried to dream up a 1357 01:07:14,840 --> 01:07:17,360 Speaker 1: best case scenario game for you're coming out of the bye, 1358 01:07:17,600 --> 01:07:20,000 Speaker 1: they couldn't have done this in the wildest dreams. You 1359 01:07:20,040 --> 01:07:22,240 Speaker 1: find the running game, Peyton Manning throws better than he 1360 01:07:22,280 --> 01:07:24,800 Speaker 1: hasn't a calendar year, and the defense shuts down the 1361 01:07:24,840 --> 01:07:27,360 Speaker 1: best quarterback in the league. I mean, we should not, 1362 01:07:27,640 --> 01:07:30,280 Speaker 1: we cannot overlook, and we're giving a plenty of time, 1363 01:07:30,320 --> 01:07:34,560 Speaker 1: but just again, like Aaron Rodgers, we've had conversations and 1364 01:07:34,560 --> 01:07:38,360 Speaker 1: and we've written breathlessly about how this is guy playing 1365 01:07:38,440 --> 01:07:41,200 Speaker 1: quarterback at the highest level it can be played. And yes, 1366 01:07:41,240 --> 01:07:44,600 Speaker 1: we're starting to maybe see somewhere on the offensive machine 1367 01:07:44,640 --> 01:07:46,920 Speaker 1: in Green Bay because of the guys that they're missing. 1368 01:07:46,960 --> 01:07:50,520 Speaker 1: But to do what they did make Aaron Rodgers look 1369 01:07:50,560 --> 01:07:53,800 Speaker 1: like Colin Kaepernick, and that I get carried away, well, well, 1370 01:07:53,800 --> 01:07:57,280 Speaker 1: just from a statistical standpoint, that tells you that we 1371 01:07:57,360 --> 01:07:59,480 Speaker 1: might be watching something special. To what Cecil was saying 1372 01:07:59,560 --> 01:08:01,360 Speaker 1: was like, if you have a great front four, you 1373 01:08:01,440 --> 01:08:04,280 Speaker 1: can get to the quarterback very easily, if you have 1374 01:08:04,320 --> 01:08:07,160 Speaker 1: a linebacker, linebackers that can cover, and maybe the best 1375 01:08:07,160 --> 01:08:10,440 Speaker 1: secondary and football what's missing there? No nothing, But I 1376 01:08:10,440 --> 01:08:13,120 Speaker 1: think it's you know, this is unusual because we don't 1377 01:08:13,160 --> 01:08:15,520 Speaker 1: see the Packers ever have a game like this. But 1378 01:08:15,640 --> 01:08:17,720 Speaker 1: to me, it has more to do with with the 1379 01:08:17,760 --> 01:08:21,080 Speaker 1: Broncos than Green Bay. Although green Bay's offense last couple 1380 01:08:21,080 --> 01:08:24,280 Speaker 1: of weeks has not been what we expect, and then 1381 01:08:24,320 --> 01:08:26,240 Speaker 1: they ran into a buzz salt and they're clicking on 1382 01:08:26,320 --> 01:08:29,919 Speaker 1: no cylinders. And at the risk of filling the boss's 1383 01:08:29,960 --> 01:08:32,240 Speaker 1: head too much, he's the one who preached a couple 1384 01:08:32,280 --> 01:08:35,120 Speaker 1: of weeks ago that the Broncos this could all turn 1385 01:08:35,160 --> 01:08:37,720 Speaker 1: around and if Peyton Manning gets it going, they are 1386 01:08:37,720 --> 01:08:42,040 Speaker 1: a suitable head is you can feel the air fluving. 1387 01:08:42,240 --> 01:08:44,919 Speaker 1: I also said after Week one, I think this Broncos 1388 01:08:45,000 --> 01:08:47,320 Speaker 1: defense is before Week one that had the chance to 1389 01:08:47,479 --> 01:08:50,320 Speaker 1: rival those Saks defenses of last anything else you said 1390 01:08:50,360 --> 01:08:53,800 Speaker 1: you'd like to bring up Yeah, what's it like to 1391 01:08:53,920 --> 01:08:57,000 Speaker 1: never be wrong? Right? I just love that they got 1392 01:08:57,040 --> 01:09:00,000 Speaker 1: the running games going here too, because Gary Kubiak, We've 1393 01:09:00,040 --> 01:09:01,920 Speaker 1: been waiting and waiting and waiting for that, and we 1394 01:09:01,960 --> 01:09:05,439 Speaker 1: saw how Peyton threw was just throwing interception after interception, 1395 01:09:05,439 --> 01:09:07,639 Speaker 1: a hundred and sixty yards on the ground. Ronnie Hillman 1396 01:09:07,680 --> 01:09:10,599 Speaker 1: two touchdowns. You have c J. Anderson another touchdown. That's 1397 01:09:10,600 --> 01:09:12,040 Speaker 1: what they need to do, and that's what they're doing. 1398 01:09:12,120 --> 01:09:15,280 Speaker 1: How about Peyton Manning. This guy he was throwing the 1399 01:09:15,320 --> 01:09:17,800 Speaker 1: ball like a guy that doesn't have a dead arm, 1400 01:09:18,120 --> 01:09:20,639 Speaker 1: that that isn't coming off six of the worst games 1401 01:09:20,680 --> 01:09:23,120 Speaker 1: of his career. He looked like Peyton Manning. Well. The 1402 01:09:23,160 --> 01:09:26,240 Speaker 1: one thing that Peyton Manning fans could hold on to 1403 01:09:26,400 --> 01:09:28,840 Speaker 1: the last three weeks is he had two or three 1404 01:09:28,880 --> 01:09:32,240 Speaker 1: really good throws every week. We talked about that. It 1405 01:09:32,320 --> 01:09:35,240 Speaker 1: was just the decision making and the consistency, and he 1406 01:09:35,320 --> 01:09:37,080 Speaker 1: just wasn't hitting a lot of them. But he would 1407 01:09:37,080 --> 01:09:38,920 Speaker 1: have two or three wild plays where we're like, wow, 1408 01:09:38,960 --> 01:09:41,080 Speaker 1: I mean that's a nice thirty yard you know, deep 1409 01:09:41,120 --> 01:09:43,240 Speaker 1: out down the field. It's not like it hasn't been there. 1410 01:09:43,800 --> 01:09:46,160 Speaker 1: If just for all this to come together now, has got, 1411 01:09:46,200 --> 01:09:48,200 Speaker 1: you would think is going to give them so much 1412 01:09:48,240 --> 01:09:51,240 Speaker 1: confidence in terms of moving forward what type of team 1413 01:09:51,240 --> 01:09:53,559 Speaker 1: they can be. That's that was one of the reasons. 1414 01:09:53,560 --> 01:09:55,120 Speaker 1: What's one of the reasons to believe in this team 1415 01:09:55,160 --> 01:09:57,200 Speaker 1: is the players around him. I mean, to Marrius Thomas 1416 01:09:57,240 --> 01:10:01,519 Speaker 1: isn't any worse. Emmanuel Sanders is than any worse. In theory, 1417 01:10:01,560 --> 01:10:03,799 Speaker 1: the running game could be pretty good with Gary Kubia 1418 01:10:03,880 --> 01:10:06,479 Speaker 1: well and any and in in Kubiak's offense, anytime you're 1419 01:10:06,520 --> 01:10:08,760 Speaker 1: rushing for a hundred and sixty yards, the quarterback is 1420 01:10:08,760 --> 01:10:12,040 Speaker 1: putting a much better position. And that's not what gets 1421 01:10:12,120 --> 01:10:14,479 Speaker 1: not been the case for Manning for almost all season. 1422 01:10:14,560 --> 01:10:17,559 Speaker 1: But he did look different tonight. He did his throws 1423 01:10:17,680 --> 01:10:21,600 Speaker 1: were much different. There receivers in in Green Bay. I 1424 01:10:21,680 --> 01:10:26,080 Speaker 1: think this matchup highlighted the kind of struggles they could 1425 01:10:26,080 --> 01:10:29,680 Speaker 1: have in the NFC playoffs against for instance, Seattle and 1426 01:10:29,800 --> 01:10:32,439 Speaker 1: some of the really physical cornerbacks. I mean, this Denver 1427 01:10:32,560 --> 01:10:36,240 Speaker 1: secondary is incredible, and right now Randall Cobb Davante ad 1428 01:10:36,280 --> 01:10:39,040 Speaker 1: I mean that that group isn't really getting the job done. 1429 01:10:39,080 --> 01:10:41,200 Speaker 1: I mean, I don't think they're probably getting open to well, 1430 01:10:41,560 --> 01:10:44,559 Speaker 1: They're they're starting to look a little flawed their defense too. 1431 01:10:44,960 --> 01:10:47,920 Speaker 1: You give up eight and fifty yards to Peyton Manning 1432 01:10:47,920 --> 01:10:50,760 Speaker 1: and Philip Rivers and back to back games. Alright, So 1433 01:10:50,800 --> 01:10:55,280 Speaker 1: that's it. That was a really comprehensive professional rundown of 1434 01:10:55,320 --> 01:10:59,160 Speaker 1: the week. That was congratulations, guys. Some of that bitter 1435 01:10:59,240 --> 01:11:02,160 Speaker 1: stuff maybe not quite as professional as other parts of 1436 01:11:02,160 --> 01:11:03,960 Speaker 1: the show. Well, they're always parts of the show that 1437 01:11:04,000 --> 01:11:07,400 Speaker 1: aren't professional. About the p I thought was good? Oh yeah, yeah, 1438 01:11:07,720 --> 01:11:12,519 Speaker 1: that was super proud. Well we're asking Wes his pants 1439 01:11:12,560 --> 01:11:15,639 Speaker 1: if they were soaked, Pa, if they would try You'll 1440 01:11:15,680 --> 01:11:20,160 Speaker 1: have to listen to the show is important, Colleen. You've 1441 01:11:20,160 --> 01:11:21,920 Speaker 1: said it all. You've done it again. You've come in 1442 01:11:21,960 --> 01:11:24,439 Speaker 1: here and hit a home run. Thank you. We'll see 1443 01:11:24,439 --> 01:11:27,559 Speaker 1: you next week. Connie Fox And that is not an 1444 01:11:27,600 --> 01:11:30,679 Speaker 1: inappropriate name for Colleen. It was a high school Yes, 1445 01:11:30,720 --> 01:11:33,320 Speaker 1: that was my high school nickname. So everybody get off 1446 01:11:33,320 --> 01:11:37,160 Speaker 1: of their back PC Police and Shadowy League figure, am 1447 01:11:37,200 --> 01:11:40,280 Speaker 1: I right? I am all right? Just think kids, kids, 1448 01:11:40,520 --> 01:11:42,639 Speaker 1: it's like you can't make fun of anything. You know 1449 01:11:43,960 --> 01:11:46,360 Speaker 1: what happened with men? Well men, you know what I'm saying. 1450 01:11:46,680 --> 01:11:49,120 Speaker 1: What is happening? I don't know. We will be back 1451 01:11:49,280 --> 01:11:52,800 Speaker 1: on Tuesday with our Monday We're gonna have our Monday 1452 01:11:52,840 --> 01:11:56,439 Speaker 1: Night recap, Thursday night football preview and all that good fun, 1453 01:11:57,160 --> 01:11:59,880 Speaker 1: so make sure you tune in for that. But for now, 1454 01:12:00,160 --> 01:12:02,320 Speaker 1: that is it for the Around the NFL podcast stand 1455 01:12:02,320 --> 01:12:04,760 Speaker 1: a heads of signing off for The Quiet Storm, The Mail, 1456 01:12:04,840 --> 01:12:08,599 Speaker 1: Matt Connie, Fox, The Boss, and TV Behind the Glass 1457 01:12:10,360 --> 01:12:33,000 Speaker 1: till Tuesday, m