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Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and buck

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Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. Welcome back in Clay Travis buck Sexton

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Speaker 1: Show if you're just tuning in right now. We've got

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Speaker 1: a couple of major news stories that are interacting in

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Speaker 1: the ongoing Trump law fair case. The bond that Trump

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Speaker 1: was scheduled to be required to post today a four

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Speaker 1: hundred and fifty four million dollars has been reduced on

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Speaker 1: appeal to one hundred and seventy five million dollars. Still

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Speaker 1: too high, but Trump says he has the money to

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Speaker 1: make that appeal paid. They are melting down on the

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Speaker 1: left over that reduction by the appeals court. Also, Judge

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Speaker 1: Marshan in the Alvin braggcase has set a Trump trial

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Speaker 1: date in New York City for the bookkeeping misdemeanor that

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Speaker 1: he elevated to a felony of April fifteenth. Donald Trump,

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Speaker 1: reacting to both of these stories, live in New York City.

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Speaker 2: Right now. Let's go year what Trump has to say.

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Speaker 3: There's amount of money that was put on by a

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Speaker 3: corrupt judge named Angoran.

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Speaker 4: You ought to be.

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Speaker 3: Looked at, seriously looked at, especially what he did with valuations.

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Speaker 3: He's the one he's a fraudulent evaluator where he values

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Speaker 3: Marlago in eighteen million dollars.

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Speaker 4: In people say it's worth fifty two.

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Speaker 3: One hundred times that much, the biggest experts in the business,

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Speaker 3: So he ought to be looked at, and James.

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Speaker 4: Ought to be looked at because she tried to get him.

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Speaker 3: She's like the puppet master of the judge. And in

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Speaker 3: our state, this state is losing tremendous prestige, it's losing

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Speaker 3: its companies, it's losing its people. They're fleeing, and violent

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Speaker 3: crime is flourishing and we can't have that.

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Speaker 4: Can't have that. No city should.

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Speaker 3: Have that, And it's happening in other cities, but not

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Speaker 3: with the lawfare.

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Speaker 4: The lawfair that they're doing is incredible.

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Speaker 3: So they could have done this in the case of

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Speaker 3: the trial that we just left one of the many

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Speaker 3: that are going. Every single one of them is run

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Speaker 3: by Biden and his thugs the only way they think

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Speaker 3: they can get elected. And I think so far it's

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Speaker 3: backfiring because the people of this country understand it.

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Speaker 4: It's backfiring.

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Speaker 3: But they're being run and they're running all of these

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Speaker 3: different cases so ridiculous.

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Speaker 4: The cases every one of them is ridiculous. You take

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Speaker 4: a look at.

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Speaker 3: Any one of them and you say any one of them,

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Speaker 3: it wouldn't make any difference.

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Speaker 4: This is all weaponization of DOJ and FBI.

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Speaker 3: They raided my house in violation of a thing called

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Speaker 3: the Fourth Amendment.

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Speaker 4: Not allowed to do that. They raided my house in Florida,

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Speaker 4: mar A Lago.

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Speaker 3: No notice, no nothing, they raided it. I can't believe it.

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Speaker 3: Nobody can believe it. And we'll see how that all

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Speaker 3: works out in the end. But it's illegal what they're doing.

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Speaker 3: It's criminal what they're doing, and it's never been done

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Speaker 3: before in this country.

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Speaker 4: You can't have an election in the middle of a

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Speaker 4: political season.

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Speaker 3: We just had Super Tuesday, and we had a Tuesday

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Speaker 3: record number, the highest number ever recorded. But we're in

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Speaker 3: the middle of an election right now, and we're fighting

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Speaker 3: prookly Joe Biden, who's the worst president in the history

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Speaker 3: of our country by far, who's let this country go

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Speaker 3: to hell. The borders, millions and millions of people coming

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Speaker 3: in from prisons, from mental institutions.

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Speaker 4: They're terrorists.

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Speaker 3: Many people coming in from prisons and mental institutions think

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Speaker 3: of it, and terrorists are coming into our country and

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Speaker 3: this guy's just letting them come in by the millions.

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Speaker 3: I think we have fifteen million people already. People don't

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Speaker 3: say that. I say it, and I'll bet I'm right too.

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Speaker 3: So we're going through this weaponization of our government to

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Speaker 3: try and knock out somebody's political opponent, and so far,

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Speaker 3: based on the polls, it's not working at all.

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Speaker 4: The people understand it.

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Speaker 3: We have a man who just ruled it like to

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Speaker 3: I don't know how you can have a trial that's

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Speaker 3: going right in the middle of an election. Not fair,

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Speaker 3: not fair, It's not fair at all.

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Speaker 2: He knows that.

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Speaker 3: To me, he's a Democrat judge. He wants to do

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Speaker 4: It's having the reverse effect. But maybe someday it won't.

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Speaker 4: I don't know, but it's having the reverse effect.

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Speaker 3: It's a terrible, terrible precedent, a terrible thing to do.

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Speaker 4: They could have started this when.

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Speaker 3: I left office. You could have gone back three years

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Speaker 3: more than that. But I left office, all of these

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Speaker 3: things could have been started, so we wouldn't be quibbling

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Speaker 3: have been over two years ago. They could have started.

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Speaker 3: They should have never started, because there's no case. If

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Speaker 3: you read Andy McCarthy's piece, if you read Jonathan Turley's piece,

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Speaker 3: if you read legal scholars all over the world, they

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Speaker 3: say this DA case is a hoax and it's something

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Speaker 3: that shouldn't have It's not even a crime. They said

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Speaker 3: just say, it's a sad day for this country when

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Speaker 3: been started three years ago, if they were going to

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Speaker 3: start it at all, and then you wouldn't be quibbling

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Speaker 3: started it. And you know why they didn't start it

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Speaker 3: because they didn't know I'd be running, and they didn't

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Speaker 3: know how well I do and if I were not running,

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Speaker 3: or if I were doing poorly like everyone else has done.

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Speaker 3: Because they're they're all knocked out except for Crook and

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Speaker 3: and none of these trials would have been happening.

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Speaker 4: If I wasn't running, they wouldn't be happening. So it's

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Speaker 4: a sad.

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Speaker 3: Day in our country in many respects.

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Speaker 4: But the good day is that the appellate division was fair.

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Speaker 3: It's a lot of money still, but the judge is corrupt.

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Speaker 3: In my opinion, he's the most overturned judge. He's been

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Speaker 3: overturned five times in this case alone.

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Speaker 4: He ruled against me before he even knew anything about

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Speaker 3: The whole case was all about damages and there were

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Speaker 4: And perhaps you'll get him to.

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Speaker 3: Tell you about what took place in terms of a

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Speaker 3: settlement negotiation, because those weren't the numbers he was discussing.

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Speaker 4: Those weren't the numbers.

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Speaker 3: It's a disgrace what's happening in our country, and we

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Speaker 3: have to get our country back, and we're going to

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Speaker 4: That's what's going to happen.

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Speaker 3: November fifth, I believe will be the most important day

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Speaker 3: as I say, drill, baby.

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Speaker 4: Drill, We'll be drilling.

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Speaker 3: We'll get energy costs down, we'll get rid of the

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Speaker 3: ridiculous electric car mandate. So nobody's ever heard of anything

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Speaker 3: so foolish and so stupid.

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Speaker 4: And we'll bring crime back to law and order.

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Speaker 3: We're going to get those words law and order back

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Speaker 3: because our cities are a disaster.

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Speaker 4: Greatly.

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Speaker 1: Okay, let's go ahead, and we'll continue to monitor this

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Speaker 1: two major legal rulings that he's reacting to outside of

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Speaker 1: that if we're going to start as the judge as

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Speaker 1: when I was a kid, we got the Braer Rabbit.

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Speaker 1: Do you remember Breer Rabbit bucked you guys in New

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Speaker 1: York City? Ever watch any of the Breer Rabbit show

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Speaker 1: back in the day. The way Trump's talking reminds me

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Speaker 1: of when Breer Rabbit would say, don't throw me in

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Speaker 1: the brier patch. Oh please, don't throw me in the

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Speaker 1: brier patch. That'd be the worst thing. He basically has

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Speaker 1: feel like this New York City courtroom, his numbers are

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Speaker 2: I really think, Well, there were a.

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Speaker 5: Number of things that he said that weren't partisan and

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Speaker 5: timing of all this stuff, they held all of these

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Speaker 2: Yes, about that. What kind of a prosecutor does that?

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Speaker 2: This is about justice.

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Speaker 5: If this is about Donald Trump breaking laws and needs

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Speaker 5: right now, I wouldn't assume the Democrats have some big

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Speaker 2: And this is really important.

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Speaker 1: And I'm gonna play this audio clip for you.

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Speaker 2: You all are.

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Speaker 1: aware of what they're saying. The left has no idea

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Speaker 1: because they find those arguments to be so chilling and

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Speaker 2: They won't allow We have to let you all hear this. Yes,

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Speaker 2: it's great.

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Speaker 5: It's as though we've taken a peep hole to the

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Speaker 5: darkest corner of the insane asylum here over at MSNBC

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Speaker 2: And wow, it is terrifying.

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Speaker 5: This guy was a New York assistant, a New York

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Speaker 5: Attorney general, yeah, judge general, and here he is.

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Speaker 5: I want to make sure we never tell you, oh,

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Speaker 5: So they have freaked out over at NBC over the

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Speaker 8: To be clear, we believe NBC News should seek out

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Speaker 5: So the Republican nominee, the Republican nominee, you are unacceptable

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Speaker 1: and let's say Ron DeSantis got elevated and he was

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Speaker 1: the nominee, the same people saying that Trump is Hitler

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Speaker 1: would soon be arguing rond de Santis is hitler too,

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Speaker 1: and in many ways he's worse than Trump. And let

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Speaker 1: me explain why you would see those stories everywhere. And

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Speaker 1: so this idea again, I just think it's funny because

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Speaker 1: Ronal McDaniel, when we would have her on this show,

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Speaker 1: and I think we certainly should, she's the RNC head.

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Speaker 1: We had her on the show a bunch of times

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Speaker 1: people would get at us on this show correct for

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Speaker 1: having her on, because she wasn't right wing enough. So

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Speaker 1: the idea that MSNBC would be like, oh my goodness,

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Speaker 1: this is to your point, like, what is the acceptable

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Speaker 5: Now, when was the last time you saw somebody who

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Speaker 5: anyone in the movement would could truly be conned not

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Speaker 5: only do they call themselves right wing, but the right

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Speaker 2: With that designation.

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Speaker 5: When was the last time you saw somebody like that

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Speaker 5: They honestly, I start to think at one point this

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Speaker 5: Now I really just think they don't even know what

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Speaker 5: we think too. They've created such a caricature that they

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Speaker 5: don't know, Like they would sit down with someone like

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Speaker 5: you or me and they'd want to, you know, they'd

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Speaker 5: and they'd be like, well, that's probably not going to

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Speaker 5: work so well, and then you know, want to make

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Speaker 5: fun of our knowledge and that that wouldn't work so well.

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Speaker 5: But they don't know what we think.

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Speaker 1: They have no idea, And that's why I think you

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Speaker 1: why Gavin Newsom got absolutely obliterated by Ron DeSantis because

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Speaker 1: They aren't actually having to hone their arguments because they

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Speaker 1: have such a rigged jury in their favor that they

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Speaker 1: don't even know. And that's why I thought Jennifer is

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Speaker 1: Jennifer is so emblematic. I think of a lot of

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Speaker 1: people Jennifer say, who we had on at the top

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Speaker 1: of this hour, and I encourage you guys to go

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Speaker 1: listen to them. And that's why I'm always thinking, there's

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Speaker 1: always an idea, like who in your mind listens to

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Speaker 1: this show? Or who watches any clip or whatever else

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Speaker 1: for better or worse. I'm always thinking that people are

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Speaker 1: listening willing to change their minds about a subject. And

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Speaker 1: there's different ways that people talk, and I understand some

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Speaker 1: people are like, oh, I only want to preach to

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Speaker 1: the choir.

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Speaker 2: I only want to talk to people who gree with

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Speaker 2: me one hundred percent.

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Speaker 1: I'm always in my mind thinking, because I'm open minded,

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Speaker 1: like this, if you could make an argument that I'm wrong,

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Speaker 1: And I think a lot of you started listening are

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Speaker 1: related to COVID because you're not even that political. I

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Speaker 1: think a lot of moms are out there listening right

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Speaker 1: now because you're still so angry over what you saw.

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Speaker 1: You're willing to be persuaded. Now, there's lots of people

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Speaker 1: that are not willing to be persuaded.

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Speaker 2: I understand that.

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Speaker 1: I think forty percent of America is willing to be persuaded.

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Speaker 1: And that to me is the audience that I think

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Speaker 1: we're talking to every day to a large extent, because

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Speaker 1: that's how you win. And I think Jennifer represents that.

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Speaker 1: And I think the left has no idea how to

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Speaker 1: win arguments because they don't really even know what the

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Speaker 1: parameters of the argument are and because their lies are

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Speaker 1: allowed to be turned into truths, Like the very fine

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Speaker 1: People thing. People lie that Joe Biden says he based

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Speaker 1: his entire campaign on is one hundred percent untrue, But

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Speaker 1: people on the left, many of them, still believe it's

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Speaker 1: true and Joe Biden such a degree that Joe Biden

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Speaker 1: can base his entire campaign on it. Some people say, well,

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Speaker 1: you know, the election wasn't actually stolen. Yeah, people understand

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Speaker 1: that there is an argument against the election being stolen.

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Speaker 2: You hear it all the time.

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Speaker 1: People on the right know every argument that is made

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Speaker 1: on the left. I don't think most people on the

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Speaker 1: far left echo chambers. And I think about this buck,

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Speaker 1: as a guy came from sports. There isn't a single

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Speaker 1: person in sports media that appears on ESPN that has

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Speaker 1: publicly been willing to acknowledge voting for Donald Trump. Think

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Speaker 1: I don't know, they employed hundreds of people on air.

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Speaker 1: Not one person has ever gone forward on their private

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Speaker 1: life and just said, you know what, I'm voting for

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Speaker 1: Donald Trump. I think he's a better choice. Not in

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Speaker 1: twenty sixteen, not in twenty twenty, and not so far

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Speaker 1: in twenty twenty four either. Most sports fans are going

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Speaker 1: to vote for Donald Trump. ESPN doesn't employ a single

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Speaker 1: person who is even willing to publicly say that, how

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Speaker 1: did we get here? That's a great question, and I

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Speaker 1: think it's emblematic of how little discussion there's actually going on.

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Speaker 1: Lots of spring break vacations this month. I just got back,

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Speaker 1: I don't think you can get text messages, but I'm

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Speaker 5: Third hour of Clay and Buck kicks off. Now we're

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Speaker 5: joined by Jennifer Say. She's an author, filmmaker, business executive,

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Speaker 5: seven time member of the US women's national gymnastics team

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Speaker 5: and was the nineteen eighty six US.

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Speaker 2: Women's All Around National Gymnastics champion. Wow.

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Speaker 5: Working on a documentary about the harms caused by prolonged

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Speaker 5: COVID school closures called Generation COVID. The trailers up at

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Speaker 5: clayanbuck dot com. She's also got a substack Say Everything

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Speaker 5: and her brand. Rather, she has a brand that launches

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Speaker 5: today called xx X y Athletics.

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Speaker 2: Jennifer quite a CV. Thanks for being with.

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Speaker 10: Us, Thanks, thanks for having me. I'm excited to be here.

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Speaker 10: We just launched today a few hours ago.

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Speaker 5: Well, we're gonna be checking out the clothing for sure,

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Speaker 5: But first off, can you just tell everybody a little

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Speaker 5: bit of a little bit of your journey. Some might

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Speaker 5: even say your red pilling if you will. You were

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Speaker 5: at Levi's, the Gens company for twenty years, and then

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Speaker 5: you realized what that Fauci was out of his mind

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Speaker 5: and school closures were horrible.

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Speaker 2: What happened?

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Speaker 10: Yeah, well I lived in San Francisco at the time,

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Speaker 10: so you know, I'll let you figure out what that means.

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Speaker 9: And I'd been a lifelong.

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Speaker 10: Lefty, but literally the day lockdowns happened, even before they happened,

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Speaker 10: when you know the city was just winding up to

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Speaker 10: lockdowns and school closures, my husband and I were both like, yeah.

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Speaker 9: No, this is not good. This is not a good idea.

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Speaker 10: This is it's bad for kids, it's bad for business owners,

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Speaker 10: it's bad for human beings.

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Speaker 9: It's a terrible violation of our civil liberties.

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Speaker 10: I mean, like, we didn't have one second where we thought,

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Speaker 10: oh my goodness, we're really scared, we're just going to

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Speaker 10: stay home forever. Not one second. And so we were

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Speaker 10: really outspoken from the very beginning. And as you might imagine,

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Speaker 10: San Francisco did not like that. And the citizens, my friends,

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Speaker 10: the community, they absolutely came after me. But I was

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Speaker 10: really persistent and I just couldn't believe what was happening.

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Speaker 10: You know, the left, I thought, you can mock me

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Speaker 10: for this if you like, but I believe what they said.

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Speaker 10: You know that they cared about kids and lower income

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Speaker 10: folks and all the people that these lockdowns were destroying.

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Speaker 10: As my friend Jay Bodicharia says, it was trickle down epidemiology,

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Speaker 10: and it was just wrong from the outset, and I

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Speaker 10: and I just decided to move on.

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Speaker 9: Two years into that, I decided to move on.

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Speaker 10: I moved my family to Denver so my kids could

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Speaker 10: go to school, started making this documentary, and I get

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Speaker 10: to say whatever I want whenever I want.

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Speaker 1: All Right, Jennifer, you and I have met in person.

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Speaker 1: I'm excited about the launch of your new company. But

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Speaker 1: I want to kind of go back to your political

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Speaker 1: evolution because some part of it mirror's mine, and I

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Speaker 1: think actually it mirrors a lot of the people who listen.

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Speaker 2: Now, so let me start with this question.

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Speaker 1: If COVID hadn't happened, do you think you would have

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Speaker 1: ended up being the CEO of Levi Strauss, this huge

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Speaker 1: global apparel company. That's the track you were on. That's

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Speaker 1: part one and part two of this question. COVID, I

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Speaker 1: think accelerated the thought process of a lot of people

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Speaker 1: who maybe had seen identity politics and didn't like the

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Speaker 1: way it was going, maybe had seen cancel culture and

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Speaker 1: didn't like the idea that like whatever you did, the

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Speaker 1: old school liberal concept was you know, the cure for

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Speaker 1: speech you don't like is more speech. We should have

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Speaker 1: a huge, robust marketplace of ideas. We all argue and

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Speaker 1: then the best ideas win. So kind of that that

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Speaker 1: transition in that political evolution or just thought evolution. If

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Speaker 1: you don't, I know a lot of people don't necessarily

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Speaker 1: even feel comfortable still attaching themselves to one political party

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Speaker 1: or another after they've been they fell so so disrespected

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Speaker 1: and left on the with the wayside by people in

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Speaker 1: positions of power. So kind of take people out there

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Speaker 1: who may not be familiar with your life process, how

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Speaker 1: you ended up, and where that led you to start

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Speaker 1: this new apparel company yourself.

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Speaker 9: Yeah.

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Speaker 10: Absolutely. I worked at Levi's twenty three years. I love

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Speaker 10: the brand. I wear it most days still. I probably

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Speaker 10: have one hundred pairs of five ones in my closet.

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Speaker 10: I think they're the best jeans in the world. I

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Speaker 10: was so excited at twenty nine to get the chance

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Speaker 10: to work there as an entry level marketing assistant. You know,

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Speaker 10: I tell the story quite often as an elite gymnast.

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Speaker 9: As a child, I got to travel to Moscow.

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Speaker 10: For the first ever Goodwill Games. I don't even know

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Speaker 10: if they still exist, do you know. I'm not sure,

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Speaker 10: but it was like a rogue Olympic style competition. It

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Speaker 10: was in Moscow in nineteen eighty six, and I was told,

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Speaker 10: if you want to trade with the Russian athletes leotards,

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Speaker 10: you know, sweats pins, which they were the best in

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Speaker 10: the world, bring Levi's fible ones.

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Speaker 9: And I did. I brought ten very.

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Speaker 10: Tiny pairs of Levi's fible ones, and I traded for

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Speaker 10: leotards and track suits from they weren't called jack suits

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Speaker 10: then with the best gymnasts in the world. So you know,

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Speaker 10: I had loved this brand for a long time. I

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Speaker 10: loved working there for twenty three years. And what I've

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Speaker 10: been the CEO, I mean, it's hard.

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Speaker 9: It's hard to say, you know. I was the brand president,

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Speaker 9: certainly a seat that could lead, it could lead to

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Speaker 9: the CEO to the CEO job, but I resigned.

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Speaker 5: My my understanding is part of your story is that

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Speaker 5: the company and also some of your colleagues, and this

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Speaker 5: is not surprised to anybody who lived through COVID, but

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Speaker 5: they turned against you for asking questions and what I

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Speaker 5: think is interesting, well, many things are interesting about it,

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Speaker 5: but did any of them ever come out afterwards after

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Speaker 5: all this happened, and say, for example, we now know

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Speaker 5: that school closures were nothing but downside. The whole thing

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Speaker 5: was absolutely moronic. It didn't save anyone, It didn't do

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Speaker 5: anything good, bad things that hurt children's learning and made

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Speaker 5: life a lot more difficult for parents. But has anyone

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Speaker 5: come out and said, wow, you were right. I'm just

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Speaker 5: I'm always curious about that, Like, look, we're all supposed

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Speaker 5: to forget that the lid fascists just got away with

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Speaker 5: all this stuff.

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 10: Look, I'll answer that slightly more broadly. I lost most

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Speaker 10: of my friends I have. There are members of my

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Speaker 10: family at this point that I still am not speaking with.

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Speaker 10: They're not speaking with me because of the stance I took.

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Speaker 10: It was, you know, to kind of go back to

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Speaker 10: your earlier question, you know, the red pill moment. For me,

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Speaker 10: it was such a violation of everything I always believed

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Speaker 10: that the left had stood for, stand up for the downtrodden,

703
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Speaker 10: believe in free speech. The only thing that is a

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Speaker 10: cure to you know, bad speech. To your point, whatever

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Speaker 10: bad speech is, I think it's all good is more speech.

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Speaker 10: That's how the truth gets out. You cannot seek truth

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Speaker 10: without open debate and descent everything that I believed in.

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Speaker 10: I mean, and I would even go down to, you know,

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Speaker 10: protecting the little guy from big corporate interests. Think about that,

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Speaker 10: Think about that. How that went during COVID. I mean,

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Speaker 10: the little guy was completely quashed by big pharma interests. Uh,

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Speaker 10: the little guy, every guy, we all were.

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Speaker 9: And so I just it was.

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Speaker 10: Such a violation of everything I believed in. And I

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Speaker 10: wouldn't say I identify with the right at this point either.

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Speaker 10: I don't want to belong to any party. I want

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Speaker 10: to think what I think, and there's so much polarization

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Speaker 10: and you cannot veer one iota from the platform and

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Speaker 10: the beliefs or the stated ideological positions of either party,

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Speaker 10: and I don't want anything to do with that. So

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Speaker 10: I'm just gonna be by myself over here and think

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Speaker 10: what I think and say what I say.

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Speaker 9: That's how it's going to be for me.

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Speaker 10: But you know, to kind of come back to your question,

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Speaker 10: no has anybody apologized for anything? No one has not.

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Speaker 10: Not friends that aren't speaking to me, not my community

727
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Speaker 10: which I lost in San Francisco, not the people who

728
00:36:57,600 --> 00:37:01,319
Speaker 10: look at the New York Times, my god. I mean,

729
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Speaker 10: the headlines in the New York Times at this point

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Speaker 10: are saying, you know, the school closures were a generational catastrophe,

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Speaker 10: and they acknowledge nothing as far as their contribution to that.

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Speaker 10: They furthered fear, they let the science reporter a Porva

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Speaker 10: state lies repeatedly about how dangerous this was for children.

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Speaker 10: There's no apology, there's no miacopa. Uh so, no, you know,

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Speaker 10: I haven't experienced apologies. I've experienced a lot of and

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Speaker 10: this is not one on one, but like in the press,

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Speaker 10: and I'm sure you've seen it too well. We might

738
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Speaker 10: have been wrong, but we did it for the right reasons.

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Speaker 10: You might have been right, but you did it for

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Speaker 10: the wrong reason. So you're still a bad person, all right,

741
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Speaker 10: QAnon weirdo, and you still deserve to be, you know.

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Speaker 9: Pushed off to the side. Which leads me to why

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Speaker 9: I wanted to start my own brand. And I know

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Speaker 9: we'll get to that in a second.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: No, i' just what I want to ask you about next.

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Speaker 1: So you are an elite women's athlete. You did a documentary.

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Speaker 1: I believe eve because my wife watched it. She is

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Speaker 1: a big fan of and she was also a gymnast

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Speaker 1: the Michigan State ridiculousness that all happened there. But when

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Speaker 1: you see men who are bigger, stronger and faster than

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Speaker 1: women you're partnering with intentionally. Riley Gaines, who works it

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Speaker 1: out kick and had to swim against the Lea Thomas,

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Speaker 1: a man pretending to be a woman for purposes of

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Speaker 1: women's athletics.

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Speaker 2: Paula Scanblin, who was one.

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Speaker 1: Of Leah Thomas's teammates at Penn and was basically told

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Speaker 1: don't speak up about this or there will be significant consequences,

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Speaker 1: and it's intentional. Your new brand is xxx Y. There

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Speaker 1: are men, there are women, and there is a difference

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Speaker 1: between the two. Would you have ever believed that that

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Speaker 1: would become something that would need to be argued, or

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Speaker 1: that women would be advocating in many ways for the

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Speaker 1: erasure of women in women's athletics in favor of men

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Speaker 1: pretending to be women.

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Speaker 10: No, I mean, to my mind, it's such a sexist,

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Speaker 10: misogynistic position. I certainly well five years ago, I certainly

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Speaker 10: wouldn't have thought this is the position that the left

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Speaker 10: would have taken.

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Speaker 9: Two years ago, I would have thought.

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Speaker 10: That this is the position the left would have taken.

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Speaker 10: But I mean, Ruth Bader Ginsburg herself said, the physical

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Speaker 10: differences between men and women are enduring. They are not fungible.

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Speaker 10: I mean, isn't she a hero of the left? She

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Speaker 10: said it, I mean, but it doesn't matter. They're telling

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Speaker 10: women to sit down, be quiet, and make way for

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Speaker 10: the feelings, wants, and desires of biological males. Well, I'm

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Speaker 10: not doing it. I'm not afraid of the names that

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Speaker 10: you will call me, and neither is Riley, and neither

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Speaker 10: is Paula. Once you've been through it, you don't care anymore.

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Speaker 10: You know this, and so call me what you want.

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Speaker 10: Most Americans, the vast majority of Americans, agree with us

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Speaker 10: that we need to protect women's sports. It doesn't mean

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Speaker 10: that we can't be inclusive and everyone doesn't have a

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Speaker 10: chance to play.

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Speaker 9: There's solutions for that.

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Speaker 10: I'm not here to make recommendations as to what solutions are.

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Speaker 10: I'm here to advocate for women, and I want to

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Speaker 10: let them know if they stand with us, they will

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Speaker 10: not be alone. Because so many people agree, and they're

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Speaker 10: too afraid to say anything because they're afraid of the

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Speaker 10: names they'll be called, and so they're forsaking women in

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Speaker 10: the process.

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Speaker 5: We go, I've got to go get my You know,

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Speaker 5: my wife actually does work out a lot. I need

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Speaker 5: to get there a lot more, but for athletic attire

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Speaker 5: for her. For example, where do people go for your

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Speaker 5: new line? Where can they get this stuff?

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Speaker 9: Yeah?

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Speaker 10: The easiest way to find it as if you go

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Speaker 10: to the truthfit dot com.

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Speaker 9: Sort of a vanity you are, l you can.

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Speaker 1: That's a great ur l the truth fits dot com.

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Speaker 1: I will mention both Buck and I have wives who

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Speaker 1: either of us. By the way, that's not that high

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Speaker 1: of a standard, Jennifer, but trust me, Carrie, his wife

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Speaker 1: and my wife Laura both in great shape. You sent

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Speaker 1: it's fantastic, So thank you for sending it to the

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Speaker 1: Travis household. The truth fits dot Com is the website.

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Speaker 1: And if you're maybe a last question for you. A

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Speaker 1: lot of women, I feel like moms in particular, are

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Speaker 1: still angry over what happened with COVID and they might

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Speaker 1: be like you, or they don't really feel like they

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Speaker 1: have a political home, and they may be angry about

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Speaker 1: this women's men deciding they're identifying as women taking over

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Speaker 1: for women, I think with your company.

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Speaker 2: But how important is it for women to.

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Speaker 1: Speak out themselves as opposed to being afraid of being

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Speaker 1: considered too mean or not inclusive enough. I think it's

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Speaker 1: really important Riley, Paula, you other women out there actually

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Speaker 1: stand up. It's one thing for men like me and

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Speaker 1: Buck to have opinions, but I think women speaking out

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Speaker 1: for women is far more powerful.

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Speaker 2: How important is that to you and for other women.

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Speaker 10: To be doing It's incredibly important. You cannot fear what

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Speaker 10: you will be called. What I know, it's scary to

829
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Speaker 10: stand up and to stand apart, but you won't be alone.

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Speaker 10: You've got us, You've got a lot of other women.

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Speaker 10: We're the majority not doing it. To my mind, do

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Speaker 10: not standing up and saying true things is so so

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Speaker 10: much scarier because now we live in lies. We can't

834
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Speaker 10: allow that to happen. You're putting your daughter's future at risk.

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Speaker 10: Don't you want your daughter to have the same opportunities

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Speaker 10: that you had because of Title nine? You better stand

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Speaker 10: up and you better defend it now or she's going

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Speaker 10: to lose that chance.

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Speaker 5: Jennifer, say thank you so much for being with us.

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Speaker 5: That the Truth Fits dot Com is the website for

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Speaker 5: buying her latest gear. Our friend Rodalley gains brand ambassador

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Speaker 5: Substack Jennifer, thank you so much.

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Speaker 9: Thanks for having me.

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Speaker 2: Clay Hey Buck same one doesn't matter. Thanks to see anything.

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Speaker 9: See who's talking.

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Speaker 2: We're rooting for you for the company. We encourage people

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Speaker 2: to check it out. Jennifer. Keep up the good work.

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Speaker 9: Thank you, Thank you ver much.

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Speaker 1: do want to issue a point of clarification and or

875
00:44:12,400 --> 00:44:19,040
Speaker 1: apology to the Yale Bulldogs who both Buck and myself disparaged.

876
00:44:19,400 --> 00:44:20,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, we did.

877
00:44:21,120 --> 00:44:25,040
Speaker 1: We talked a lot of trash. I believe we have audio.

878
00:44:25,560 --> 00:44:30,480
Speaker 1: This is from Wednesday show. You and I decided to

879
00:44:30,840 --> 00:44:33,399
Speaker 1: This might even be called an ad hominem attack because

880
00:44:33,440 --> 00:44:36,400
Speaker 1: I don't think anybody at Yale had said anything to

881
00:44:36,440 --> 00:44:37,359
Speaker 1: either one of us.

882
00:44:37,880 --> 00:44:41,320
Speaker 5: We decided to give those nerds wedgies on our radio show.

883
00:44:41,800 --> 00:44:43,840
Speaker 5: We did, and I said, there's no way they're going

884
00:44:43,920 --> 00:44:47,360
Speaker 5: to beat Auburn. I think, honestly, I know Kentucky lost

885
00:44:47,400 --> 00:44:52,680
Speaker 5: to Oakland, Sorry Kentucky fans, but Auburn beating getting beat

886
00:44:52,719 --> 00:44:55,480
Speaker 5: by Yale was more stunning to me than even that game.

887
00:44:55,760 --> 00:45:01,040
Speaker 2: Here was our conversation. This is from Wednesday. Just listen.

888
00:45:01,480 --> 00:45:05,319
Speaker 5: Well, I'm generally very focused on the news play, but

889
00:45:05,440 --> 00:45:09,040
Speaker 5: today I'm just really unable to take my mind away

890
00:45:09,080 --> 00:45:13,520
Speaker 5: from this March Madness bracket situation, and I can come

891
00:45:13,560 --> 00:45:17,919
Speaker 5: to the astute conclusion that Yale is not going all

892
00:45:17,960 --> 00:45:19,640
Speaker 5: the way. There's no way those nerds are going to

893
00:45:19,680 --> 00:45:21,600
Speaker 5: win the whole thing. So there, Yale's going to lose

894
00:45:21,640 --> 00:45:22,719
Speaker 5: to Auburn in round one.

895
00:45:22,760 --> 00:45:25,680
Speaker 1: That's a student analysis by you giving giving everybody a

896
00:45:25,719 --> 00:45:27,920
Speaker 1: pick for their brackets right off the top. I believe

897
00:45:27,920 --> 00:45:30,600
Speaker 1: I'm correct that Auburn is playing Yale.

898
00:45:30,920 --> 00:45:32,000
Speaker 2: So we are.

899
00:45:32,360 --> 00:45:34,960
Speaker 5: We're not going to be invited on the Aspen Senior

900
00:45:35,000 --> 00:45:36,680
Speaker 5: trip for Yale. You know what I mean, We're not

901
00:45:36,719 --> 00:45:39,839
Speaker 5: getting invited. I knew it was bad. I was out

902
00:45:39,880 --> 00:45:42,240
Speaker 5: to dinner. I was watching this at.

903
00:45:42,080 --> 00:45:46,439
Speaker 1: The bar and Immediately my phone blew up with people

904
00:45:46,480 --> 00:45:51,080
Speaker 1: who aren't even like regular commenters on on the show

905
00:45:51,160 --> 00:45:54,040
Speaker 1: that were friends of mine saying, oh, you and Buck

906
00:45:54,160 --> 00:45:56,520
Speaker 1: really stepped in it with this Yale Auburn stuff.

907
00:45:56,680 --> 00:45:59,040
Speaker 2: So so Yale the Bulldogs.

908
00:45:59,040 --> 00:46:01,960
Speaker 1: Now they did get wrecked late last night by San

909
00:46:01,960 --> 00:46:06,440
Speaker 1: Diego State. Yale did, but Auburn I thought could make

910
00:46:06,440 --> 00:46:07,439
Speaker 1: a final four run.

911
00:46:07,600 --> 00:46:09,840
Speaker 2: I thought they were horribly under seated.

912
00:46:10,400 --> 00:46:14,200
Speaker 1: And that was probably the biggest upset certainly of the

913
00:46:14,239 --> 00:46:17,799
Speaker 1: Friday slate of games. All time record viewership. By the way,

914
00:46:18,239 --> 00:46:21,000
Speaker 1: more people have never watched the NC DOUBLEA Tournament in

915
00:46:21,200 --> 00:46:23,600
Speaker 1: history than are watching it so far this year.

916
00:46:24,320 --> 00:46:25,600
Speaker 2: Never watched it, never.

917
00:46:25,440 --> 00:46:28,960
Speaker 1: Watch it is the most watched NC DOUBLEA tournament so

918
00:46:29,080 --> 00:46:32,680
Speaker 1: far in the history of the NC DOUBLEA Tournament. Obviously,

919
00:46:32,760 --> 00:46:37,200
Speaker 1: this is a very popular thing, and I did that out.

920
00:46:37,120 --> 00:46:39,480
Speaker 5: People realize if I'm going to pay attention to it,

921
00:46:39,520 --> 00:46:41,719
Speaker 5: clearly it must be worthwhile. Plays So I take some

922
00:46:41,760 --> 00:46:43,520
Speaker 5: of the credit for this. Can I give you our

923
00:46:43,840 --> 00:46:46,720
Speaker 5: VIP email that we had to hold all? Yeah, yes, yes,

924
00:46:47,120 --> 00:46:52,200
Speaker 5: VIP Mark Wrights Fellas. I'm in a quandary. On the

925
00:46:52,239 --> 00:46:54,239
Speaker 5: one hand, I have to wonder if Clay needs his

926
00:46:54,360 --> 00:46:57,040
Speaker 5: man card pulled because of his fascination with the British

927
00:46:57,120 --> 00:47:01,160
Speaker 5: Royal family. Usually we pondered pulling Bucks card because his

928
00:47:01,200 --> 00:47:05,000
Speaker 5: sports ignorance and his driving slowly. On the other hand,

929
00:47:05,080 --> 00:47:07,840
Speaker 5: I definitely remember where I was when Princess Diana died,

930
00:47:08,320 --> 00:47:11,520
Speaker 5: and I have zero interest in the Royal family. I'm

931
00:47:11,560 --> 00:47:14,279
Speaker 5: with you, Clay, How in the world did Buck miss that? Oh? Well,

932
00:47:14,520 --> 00:47:17,560
Speaker 5: Mark from Pa Mark's covered a lot of ground here.

933
00:47:17,640 --> 00:47:19,560
Speaker 5: You know, there's a little you know what I mean.

934
00:47:19,600 --> 00:47:21,960
Speaker 5: You like the sports, but you're really into the British

935
00:47:22,040 --> 00:47:22,760
Speaker 5: Royal family.

936
00:47:22,920 --> 00:47:25,000
Speaker 2: But you knew where you were when Diana died or

937
00:47:25,000 --> 00:47:26,160
Speaker 2: you didn't, then the whole thing.

938
00:47:27,000 --> 00:47:31,359
Speaker 1: Yeah, I fully understand that I love sports and that

939
00:47:31,680 --> 00:47:34,799
Speaker 1: I also am obsessed with the Royal family. Is a

940
00:47:34,840 --> 00:47:38,920
Speaker 1: small segment of the Vinn diagram. Overall, I would suggest

941
00:47:38,960 --> 00:47:42,320
Speaker 1: that what it probably reflects is that I like drama,

942
00:47:42,719 --> 00:47:45,360
Speaker 1: and there is great drama. I mean, sports are basically

943
00:47:45,400 --> 00:47:47,840
Speaker 1: the male version of soap operas. For those of us

944
00:47:47,880 --> 00:47:49,680
Speaker 1: out there, we don't know how the story's going to go,

945
00:47:50,719 --> 00:47:53,480
Speaker 1: and I know a lot of women obviously love sports too,

946
00:47:54,000 --> 00:47:57,719
Speaker 1: but I don't know that there's diehard Royal family, obsessives,

947
00:47:57,800 --> 00:48:01,200
Speaker 1: and NCAA tournament fan base. I would dwell in that

948
00:48:01,320 --> 00:48:04,080
Speaker 1: unique universe and we come back. Trump trial date set.

949
00:48:04,120 --> 00:48:05,919
Speaker 1: Will continue to break that down and more.

950
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Speaker 2: Clay Bucke