WEBVTT - The Case Against Generative AI (Part 4)

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<v Speaker 1>Zoe Media.

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<v Speaker 2>All Right, we're back.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm ed Zetron and this is better offline. This is

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<v Speaker 3>the fourth and final episode of this four part series

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<v Speaker 3>where I dissect in excruciating comprehensive detail the AI bubble

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<v Speaker 3>and tell you why I think its implosion is inevitable.

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<v Speaker 3>We're at the end, which is fitting because in this

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<v Speaker 3>episode we're going to talk about why and how this

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<v Speaker 3>entire sham dies again. If you jumping in now, start

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<v Speaker 3>from the beginning. We talk about a lot of things

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<v Speaker 3>and it all kind of threads together. I know, I

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<v Speaker 3>know you want to hear my explanation of how open

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<v Speaker 3>ai is fucked with a capital fuck. But we've got

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<v Speaker 3>to lay the groundwork to get there. Okay, got up, good, Good,

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<v Speaker 3>We're good. We're god, You're ready, We're good, You're got yep, yep.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, we'll begin.

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<v Speaker 3>One of the comfortable lies that people tell themselves is

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<v Speaker 3>that the AI bubble is similar to the fiber boom

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<v Speaker 3>or the dot com boom or uber, or that we're

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<v Speaker 3>in the growth stay, that this is what software companies do.

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<v Speaker 3>They spend a bunch of money, then pull the profit lever.

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<v Speaker 3>The thing is, this is nothing like anything you've ever

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<v Speaker 3>seen before, because this is the dumbest shit the tech

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<v Speaker 3>industry has ever ever done. AI data centers are nothing

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<v Speaker 3>like fiber because there are very few actual use cases

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<v Speaker 3>for these GPUs outside of AI, and none of them

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<v Speaker 3>are remotely hyper scale revenue drivers. As I discussed a

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<v Speaker 3>month or so ago, data center development accounted for more

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<v Speaker 3>of America's GDP growth than all consumers spending combined in

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<v Speaker 3>the first half of.

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<v Speaker 2>Twenty twenty five.

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<v Speaker 3>And there really isn't any demand for AI in general,

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<v Speaker 3>let alone at the scale that these hundreds of billions

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<v Speaker 3>of dollars are being sunk into. The conservative estimate of

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<v Speaker 3>capital expenditures related to data centers is around four hundred

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<v Speaker 3>billion dollars, but given the fifty billion dollar in a

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<v Speaker 3>quarter in private equity invested, I'm going to guess it

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<v Speaker 3>breaks half a trillion, all to build capacity for an

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<v Speaker 3>industry yet to prove itself. And this whole in video

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<v Speaker 3>OpenAI one hundred billion dollar funding news should only fill

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<v Speaker 3>you full of dread. But also it isn't fucking finalized.

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<v Speaker 3>Stop reporting as if it's done, it's fucking anyway good.

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<v Speaker 3>According to CNBC and I quote the initial ten billion

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<v Speaker 3>dollar tranch is locked in at a five hundred billion

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<v Speaker 3>dollar valuation and expected to close within a month or

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<v Speaker 3>so once the transaction has been finalized, with successive ten

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<v Speaker 3>billion dollar rounds planned, each to be priced at the

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<v Speaker 3>company's then current valuation. Is new capacity comes online, what

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<v Speaker 3>a horrible deal. They can just raise whatever they can,

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<v Speaker 3>just go back to video. But let me just be clear.

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<v Speaker 3>Open Ai has written a lot of checks that neither

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<v Speaker 3>it nor anyone else can cash, and for it to

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<v Speaker 3>survive it needs to raise more than, honestly about five

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<v Speaker 3>hundred billion dollars and maybe another four hundred billion dollars

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<v Speaker 3>and other people paying for stuff. It's astonishing, really, and

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<v Speaker 3>no point is anyone asking how exactly open ai builds

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<v Speaker 3>the data centers to fill for of the GPUs to

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<v Speaker 3>get the rest of Nvidia's funding. In fact, I'm genuinely

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<v Speaker 3>shocked and a little disgusted by how poorly this story

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<v Speaker 3>has been told.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's go point by point.

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<v Speaker 3>Ten billion dollars is not enough for open ai to

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<v Speaker 3>build a data center. The one point one to one

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<v Speaker 3>point two Gigawa Gabiline Texas data center being built by

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<v Speaker 3>Oracle and Cruiser for open Ai required fifteen billion dollars

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<v Speaker 3>in debt, and that's not including the forty billion dollars

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<v Speaker 3>of chips needed to power it. Though a question whether

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<v Speaker 3>all of those are going into Abilene or somewhere else,

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<v Speaker 3>which you get to later. Open Ai can also not

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<v Speaker 3>afford to pay for everything it's promised. Open Ai will

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<v Speaker 3>burn they say one hundred and fifteen billion dollars in

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<v Speaker 3>the next four years ago into the information, but I

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<v Speaker 3>believe the company intentionally leaked those numbers before the announcement

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<v Speaker 3>of their three hundred billion dollar deal with Oracle, as

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<v Speaker 3>when you take into account the numbers share but the

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<v Speaker 3>information which involved them burning forty seven billion dollars in

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<v Speaker 3>twenty twenty eight a year when it open ai is

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<v Speaker 3>meant to make seventy billion dollars in payments to compute

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<v Speaker 3>to Oracle, not for twenty eight billion dollars to Microsoft

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<v Speaker 3>or any other cost. There's no space for the three

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<v Speaker 3>hundred billion dollars to go, and there's actually another one

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<v Speaker 3>hundred billion dollars they're promising for backup compute as well.

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<v Speaker 3>On top of all of this, open ai is still

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<v Speaker 3>yet to convert to a for profit entity, and must

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<v Speaker 3>do so by the end of twenty twenty five, or

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<v Speaker 3>they'll lose twenty billion dollars in funding from SoftBank. A

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<v Speaker 3>few weeks ago, Microsoft and open Ai co published an

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<v Speaker 3>announcement that said they'd signed a non binding memorandum of

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<v Speaker 3>understanding for the next phase of their partnership, which the

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<v Speaker 3>media quickly took to mean the deal was done. No

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<v Speaker 3>deal has been done. This is an announcement of nothing.

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<v Speaker 3>On top of all of this, venture capital might run

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<v Speaker 3>out at the current rate of investment in around six quarters,

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<v Speaker 3>and open ai needs more investment than ever. The Information

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<v Speaker 3>recently published some worrying data from venture capitalist John Sokoda

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<v Speaker 3>that a Today's clip the industry would run out of

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<v Speaker 3>money in six quarters, adding that the money wouldn't run

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<v Speaker 3>out until the end of twenty twenty eight if it

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<v Speaker 3>wasn't for open.

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<v Speaker 2>Ai and Anthropic.

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<v Speaker 3>In a very real sense, open ai threatens the future

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<v Speaker 3>of available capital for the tech industry. Well, the good

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<v Speaker 3>news is that they're going to make lots of money, right.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, open Ai leaked that they'll make two hundred

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<v Speaker 3>billion dollars in four years time. I mean, if you're concussed,

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<v Speaker 3>I can see how you believe that. Let's go, I'm

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<v Speaker 3>going to read you a bunch of numbers. I know

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<v Speaker 3>it's kind of going to be annoying to hear this.

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<v Speaker 3>For the next thirty second, I'm going to just throw

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<v Speaker 3>figures at you, but pay attention because it's important to

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<v Speaker 3>really us how insane this is. So. In twenty twenty five,

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<v Speaker 3>open ai projects to make thirteen billion dollars and have

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<v Speaker 3>free cash flow of negative nine billion dollars. In twenty

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<v Speaker 3>twenty six, open ai will make twenty nine billion dollars

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<v Speaker 3>or thirty billion dollars, but have free cash flow of

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<v Speaker 3>negative seventeen billion. In twenty twenty seven, open ai will

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<v Speaker 3>make sixty billion dollars but have negative cash flow of

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<v Speaker 3>negative thirty five billion dollars. And in twenty twenty eight,

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<v Speaker 3>open ai will make one hundred billion dollars but have

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<v Speaker 3>free cash flow of negative forty seven billion dollars. In

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<v Speaker 3>twenty twenty nine, open ai will make one hundred and

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<v Speaker 3>forty five billion dollars but a free cash flow of

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<v Speaker 3>negative eight billion dollars. Somehow, I just want to reiterate

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<v Speaker 3>there open AI's projection. See it reduce its negative cash

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<v Speaker 3>flow by thirty nine billion dollars or one and a

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<v Speaker 3>half times three m's revenue from the last financial year

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<v Speaker 3>in a single year, while also increasing their revenue by

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<v Speaker 3>a similar amount, give or take a few billion. Who's counting,

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<v Speaker 3>certainly not Sarah Fryer, the CFO of open Ai.

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<v Speaker 2>It's also fucking stupid.

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<v Speaker 3>But don't worry. I know, I know some of you

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<v Speaker 3>have been worried. You see big strong men with tears.

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<v Speaker 3>Now is going to be saying cirsa open Ai. They're

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<v Speaker 3>not gonna They're going to have enough money.

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<v Speaker 2>They're gonna die. But don't worry.

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<v Speaker 3>In twenty thirty, open ai will make two hundred billion

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<v Speaker 3>dollars and somehow have positive free cash flow of thirty

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<v Speaker 3>eight billion dollars. It's just that easy. I teach you

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<v Speaker 3>this in business school. It's just that easy.

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<v Speaker 2>How they're gonna make it. They're gonna make it. They'll

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<v Speaker 2>be fine.

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<v Speaker 3>Open ai is current reported burn is one hundred and

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<v Speaker 3>fifteen billion dollars through twenty thirty, which means there's no

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<v Speaker 3>way that these projections that were leaked included three hundred

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<v Speaker 3>billion dollars in compute costs. Even when you factor in

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<v Speaker 3>the revenue, there's no space in the projections to absorb

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<v Speaker 3>the Oracle money, and from what I can tell, by

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<v Speaker 3>twenty twenty nine, open AI will burned up have burned

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<v Speaker 3>upwards of two hundred ninety billion dollars, assuming it suffves

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<v Speaker 3>that long, which I do not believe it will. Don't

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<v Speaker 3>worry though, open ai is about to make some crazy money.

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<v Speaker 3>I say in no way being totally sarcastic. I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 3>now read you some of the projections that CFO Sarah

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<v Speaker 3>Fryer signed off on. This is a professional chief financial officer. Again,

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<v Speaker 3>more numbers, but pay attention, Pay attention. This is I

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<v Speaker 3>want to give you, because these are numbers you just heard,

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<v Speaker 3>but I want to give you some comparison points. So

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<v Speaker 3>in twenty twenty six, open AI will make, according to

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<v Speaker 3>the projections, or these are the projections, thirty billion dollars

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<v Speaker 3>in revenue, or just under thirty the thirty four billion

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<v Speaker 3>dollars that Salesforce made in twenty twenty four. In twenty

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<v Speaker 3>twenty seven, open AI will allegedly make sixty billion dollars

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<v Speaker 3>or two point six billion, more than the fifty seven

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<v Speaker 3>point four billion dollars the Oracle made in its fiscal

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<v Speaker 3>year twenty twenty five, or eight point four billion dollars

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<v Speaker 3>more than Broadcom made in twenty twenty four. In twenty

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<v Speaker 3>twenty eight, this is crazy. Open ai will make one

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<v Speaker 3>hundred billion dollars two point three billion dollars more than

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<v Speaker 3>Tesla made in twenty twenty four, or eleven point eleven

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<v Speaker 3>point sixty six billion dollars more than TSMC, the single

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<v Speaker 3>largest chip manufacturer in the world.

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<v Speaker 2>Made in twenty twenty four.

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<v Speaker 3>In twenty twenty nine, things get crazier because open ai

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<v Speaker 3>will then make one hundred and fifty four billion dollars

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<v Speaker 3>or fourteen point five billion dollars more than the one

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<v Speaker 3>hundred and thirty point five billion dollars that in Video

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<v Speaker 3>made and its fiscal year twenty twenty five. But in

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<v Speaker 3>twenty thirty, this is when they really blow the doors off.

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<v Speaker 3>They will make two hundred billion dollars or thirty five

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<v Speaker 3>point five billion dollars in the one hundred and sixty

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<v Speaker 3>four point five billion that Meta made in twenty twenty four.

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<v Speaker 3>Just so we are clear, open ai intends to ten

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<v Speaker 3>exits revenue in the space of four years, selling software

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<v Speaker 3>and access to its models in an industry with about

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<v Speaker 3>sixty billion dollars of revenue. In twenty twenty five, How

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<v Speaker 3>will it do this? Open ai does not say. I

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<v Speaker 3>don't know open ai CFO Sarah Fryer, but I do

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<v Speaker 3>know that signing off on these numbers is at the

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<v Speaker 3>very least ethically questionable. But putting aside the ridiculousness of

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<v Speaker 3>open AI's deals or its funding requirements, Fryar has wilfully

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<v Speaker 3>allowed Samulman and open ai to state goals that defy

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<v Speaker 3>reality or good sense, all to take advantage of investors

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<v Speaker 3>and public markets that have completely lost the plot. I'm

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<v Speaker 3>actually you know what, I'm actually going to be blunter.

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<v Speaker 3>Open ai has signed multiple different deals and contracts for

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<v Speaker 3>amounts it cannot afford to pay that it cannot hope

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<v Speaker 3>to raise the money to pay for that defy the

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<v Speaker 3>amounts of venture capital and private capital available, or to

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<v Speaker 3>sustain a company that will burn half a trillion dollars

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<v Speaker 3>in the next four years based on their own expenditures,

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<v Speaker 3>and they have no path of the profitability of any kind.

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<v Speaker 3>But what about that Invidia deal? And one hundred billion

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<v Speaker 3>dollars is a lot of money, right, it is? But

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<v Speaker 3>the announcement is bullshit. I know you may have read otherwise,

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<v Speaker 3>but in Vidia didn't give open Ai a hundred billion dollars.

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<v Speaker 3>In fact, ninety billion dollars of that is contingent on

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<v Speaker 3>open Ai building roughly one hundred and twenty five billion

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<v Speaker 3>dollars worth of data centers with two hundred billion dollars

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<v Speaker 3>worth of GPUs inside them. And those data centers will

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<v Speaker 3>have to be built faster than anyone could possibly build

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<v Speaker 3>something of that scale. And there's no evidence that open

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<v Speaker 3>ai knows where or when these facilities will.

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<v Speaker 2>Be built or who will build them.

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<v Speaker 3>Important detail as well, in Vidia's data centers have nothing

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<v Speaker 3>to do with stargate. So when you read that open

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<v Speaker 3>ai has seven gigawatts of stargate whatever, it doesn't exist.

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<v Speaker 3>Who cares? That's nothing to do with Nvidia. Oracle is

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<v Speaker 3>not building these data centers. The ten gigawatts that they

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<v Speaker 3>need to build with video are something completely separate. But

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<v Speaker 3>you know what, let's take a step back with something

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<v Speaker 3>really simple. Data centers take forever to build. As I've

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<v Speaker 3>said previously, based on current reports, it's taking Oracle and

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<v Speaker 3>Cruiser around two point five.

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<v Speaker 2>Years per giga.

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<v Speaker 3>What of data circumpans city and nowhere in these reports

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<v Speaker 3>there's one reporter take a fucking second to say, hey,

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<v Speaker 3>what data centers are you talking about?

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<v Speaker 2>Hey, didn't Sam alm.

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<v Speaker 3>And say back in July he was building ten gigawats

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<v Speaker 3>of data center capacity with Oracle. But wait now Oracle

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<v Speaker 3>and open Ai have done another announcement that says they're

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<v Speaker 3>only doing seven gigawats, but they already had a schedule

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<v Speaker 3>on ten gigawatts. Like I said, totally different ten gigawats

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<v Speaker 3>to the one within video. But you know what, got

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<v Speaker 3>a few hundred billion dollars of data centers. Now you're

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<v Speaker 3>breaking real money anyway. I cannot be clear enough how

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<v Speaker 3>unlikely it is that the first giga what of in

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<v Speaker 3>video systems will be deployed in the second half of

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<v Speaker 3>twenty twenty six, as in Video has stated with their

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<v Speaker 3>deal with open Ai. And that's as if the land

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<v Speaker 3>has been bought and got permits and the construction has started.

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<v Speaker 3>None of this has happened.

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<v Speaker 2>But you know, let's get really specific on costs.

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<v Speaker 3>Kruso's one point two gigawatts of compute for open Ai

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<v Speaker 3>is a fifteen billion dollar joint venture, which means a

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<v Speaker 3>gigawat of compute runs about twelve point five billion dollars

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<v Speaker 3>worth of construction, Abilene's eight buildings are meant to hold

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<v Speaker 3>fifty thousand in video GB two hundred GPUs and their

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<v Speaker 3>associated networking infrastructure. So let's say a Gigawa is around

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<v Speaker 3>three hundred and thirty three thousand Blackwell GPUs, even though

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<v Speaker 3>the GB two hundreds are technically two of them put together.

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<v Speaker 3>Though this math is a little funky due to in

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<v Speaker 3>video promising to install its new Reuben GPUs in these

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<v Speaker 3>theoretical data centers. That means these data centers will require

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<v Speaker 3>a little under two hundred billion.

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<v Speaker 2>Dollars worth of GPUs.

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<v Speaker 3>By my maths, that's about three hundred and twenty five

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<v Speaker 3>billion dollars, but in videos saying it could be half

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<v Speaker 3>a trillion. But you know, who gives a shit, right,

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<v Speaker 3>numbers don't matter. You've got Jensen Wong telling CNBC that

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<v Speaker 3>one giga what costs fifty sixty billion dollars. You've got

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<v Speaker 3>Altman claiming the same thing to Bloomberg. But my mass

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<v Speaker 3>is something completely fucking different, But no one seems.

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<v Speaker 2>To want to bother.

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<v Speaker 3>You know. It's only like the places I'm quoting are

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<v Speaker 3>leading business outlets with teams of thousands of people, with

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<v Speaker 3>incredible infrastructure where they could sit down and say, well,

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<v Speaker 3>you know it costs this much to build stargate ABERI,

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<v Speaker 3>and why don't we work out actually what this costs? No, no, no,

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<v Speaker 3>just eat the info slop yum yum yum. You know

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<v Speaker 3>it doesn't exhaust me. It doesn't make me cynical and

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<v Speaker 3>frustrated with people who could do a good job. Indeed,

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<v Speaker 3>I've seen them do a good job, but they just

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<v Speaker 3>seem to not want to do one with this, and

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<v Speaker 3>it genuinely bothers me on a day to day basis. Okay,

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<v Speaker 3>I realize I'm just ranting at this point, but I'm

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<v Speaker 3>gonna be honest. I'm just I'm so tired of this.

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<v Speaker 3>As a reminder as well, Open Eyes agreed to spend

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<v Speaker 3>three hundred billion dollars on compute with Oracle. But at

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<v Speaker 3>this point, as you can tell, numbers basically don't have meaning.

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<v Speaker 3>Numbers have stopped meaning anything. If you believe these numbers,

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<v Speaker 3>you're a fantasist or a liar, or you just don't

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<v Speaker 3>want to think about them too much, because when you

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<v Speaker 3>think about them, you start to realize how unrealistic it is.

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<v Speaker 3>And even if you remain steadfast in your belief of

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<v Speaker 3>the transformative potential of large language models. Eventually, there comes

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<v Speaker 3>a point where reality must prevail and you accept that

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<v Speaker 3>we're in a bubble, whether you like it or not.

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<v Speaker 3>What we're witnessing is one of the most egregious wastes

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<v Speaker 3>of capital in history, sold by career charlatans, with their

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<v Speaker 3>reputations laundered by a tech and business media afraid to

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<v Speaker 3>criticize the powerful an analyst that don't seem to want

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<v Speaker 3>to tell their investors the truth. There are no historic

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<v Speaker 3>comparisons here. Even Britain's abominable eighteen hundreds railway bubble, which

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<v Speaker 3>absorbed half of the country's national income, created valuable infrastructure

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<v Speaker 3>for trains, a vehicle that can move people to and

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<v Speaker 3>from places. So the train doesn't randomly just go backwards

0:13:47.920 --> 0:13:49.800
<v Speaker 3>when you make it go forwards. It doesn't become a

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<v Speaker 3>bus or a dog at random. It doesn't hallucinate doors

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<v Speaker 3>that open and close at random. Trains work and GPUs

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<v Speaker 3>are not trains, nor are they cars or even CPUs,

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<v Speaker 3>not adaptable to many other kinds of work, nor are

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<v Speaker 3>they the infrastructure of the future of tech, because they're

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<v Speaker 3>already quite old and with everybody focused on buying them,

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<v Speaker 3>you'd absolutely see one other use case by now that

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<v Speaker 3>actually mattered. GPUs are expensive, power hungry, environmentally destructive, and

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<v Speaker 3>require their own kinds of cooling and server infrastructure, making

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<v Speaker 3>every GPU data center an environmental and fiscal bubble onto themselves.

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<v Speaker 3>And whereas the Victorian train and infrastructure still exists in

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<v Speaker 3>the UK, though it has been upgraded over the years,

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<v Speaker 3>a GPU has a limited useful lifespan. These are cards

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<v Speaker 3>that can and will break after a period of extended usage,

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<v Speaker 3>whether that period is five years or later, though I

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<v Speaker 3>hear it's one to three, and they'll inevitably be superseded

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<v Speaker 3>by something better and more powerful, meaning that the resale

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<v Speaker 3>value of that GPU will only go down with a

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<v Speaker 3>price depreciation. That's the kin to a new car, and

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<v Speaker 3>then a used car, and then a car that you

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<v Speaker 3>kick the door over every so often. I am telling you,

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<v Speaker 3>as I have been telling you for years, again and

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<v Speaker 3>again and again, that the demand is not there for

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<v Speaker 3>generative AI, and the demand is never ever arriving. The

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<v Speaker 3>only reason anyone humors any of this crap is the

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<v Speaker 3>endless hoarding of GPUs to build capacity for a revolution.

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<v Speaker 2>That will never arrive.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, that and open Ai, a company that's built and

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<v Speaker 3>sold on lies about chat GPT's capabilities. Chat GPT's popularity

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<v Speaker 3>in open hunger for endless amounts of compute have created

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<v Speaker 3>the illusion of demand due to the sheer amount of

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<v Speaker 3>capacity required to keep their services operational. Also that they

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<v Speaker 3>can burn around eight billion dollars or more in twenty

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<v Speaker 3>twenty five and hundreds of billions of dollars more by

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<v Speaker 3>twenty thirty if they make him, which they won't. The

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<v Speaker 3>Nvidia dealers are fast an obvious attempt by the largest

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<v Speaker 3>company on the American stock market to prop up the

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<v Speaker 3>one significant revenue generator in the entire industry, knowing that

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<v Speaker 3>time is running out for it to create new avenues

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<v Speaker 3>for eternal growth. I'd argue that Nvidia's deal also shows

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<v Speaker 3>the complete content that these companies have for the media.

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<v Speaker 3>There are no details about how this deal works beyond

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<v Speaker 3>the initial ten billion dollars. There's no land purchase, no

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<v Speaker 3>data center construction started, yet the media slurps it down

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<v Speaker 3>without a second thought. I am but one man, and

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<v Speaker 3>I'm fucking peculiar. I did not learn financial analysis in school,

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<v Speaker 3>but I appear to be one of the few people

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<v Speaker 3>doing even the most basic analysis of these deals. And

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<v Speaker 3>while I'm having a great time doing so, I'm are

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<v Speaker 3>so extremely frustrated about how little effort is being put

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<v Speaker 3>into praying apart these deals by other people.

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<v Speaker 2>I realize how ridiculous all that this sounds. I get it.

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<v Speaker 3>There's so much money being promised, that so many people

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<v Speaker 3>market rallies built off the back of these massive deals,

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<v Speaker 3>and I get that the assumption that this is that

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<v Speaker 3>this much money can't be wrong, that this many people

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<v Speaker 3>wouldn't just say stuff without intending to follow through, or

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<v Speaker 3>without considering whether their company could afford it. I know

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<v Speaker 3>it's hard to conceive that these hundreds of billions of

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<v Speaker 3>dollars could be invested in something for no apparent reason,

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<v Speaker 3>but it's happening, right goddamn now, in front of your eyes.

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<v Speaker 3>And I am going to be merciless on anyone who

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<v Speaker 3>attempts to write, how could we possibly have seen this coming?

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<v Speaker 3>Generator AI has never been reliable, has always been unprofitable,

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<v Speaker 3>and has always been unsustainable. And I've been saying so

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<v Speaker 3>since at least February twenty twenty four. These economics have

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<v Speaker 3>never made sense. Something I've said repeatedly since April twenty

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<v Speaker 3>twenty four, and when I wrote how does open Ai

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<v Speaker 3>Survive in July twenty twenty four, I had multiple people

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<v Speaker 3>suggest I was being an alarmist. Here's some alarmism for you.

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<v Speaker 3>The longer it takes for open ai to die, the

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<v Speaker 3>more damage it will cause once it does. As I

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<v Speaker 3>talked about earlier in this series, venture capital could run

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<v Speaker 3>out in six quarters, with investor and research of John

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<v Speaker 3>Socoda estimating that there will be only around one hundred

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<v Speaker 3>and sixty four billion dollars of dry powder, which is

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<v Speaker 3>available capital, by the way, in USVC firms, by the

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<v Speaker 3>end of twenty twenty five. In July, the French Tech

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<v Speaker 3>journal reported using Pitchbook DAYA, the global venture capital deal

0:17:35.040 --> 0:17:38.320
<v Speaker 3>activity reached its lowest first half total since twenty eighteen,

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<v Speaker 3>with one hundred and thirty nine point four billion dollars

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<v Speaker 3>in deal value in the first half of twenty twenty five,

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<v Speaker 3>down from one hundred and eighty three point four billion

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<v Speaker 3>in the first half of twenty twenty four, meaning that

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<v Speaker 3>any further expansion or demands for venge capital from open

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<v Speaker 3>ai will likely sap dwindling.

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<v Speaker 2>Funds available for other startups.

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<v Speaker 3>Things get worse when you narrow things to the US

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<v Speaker 3>venture capital In a piece from April Erstin Young report,

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<v Speaker 3>the VC backed in in US companies say eighty billion

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<v Speaker 3>dollars in Q one twenty twenty five, but one forty

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<v Speaker 3>billion dollar deal account for half of the investment.

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<v Speaker 2>Open Ai is forty billion.

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<v Speaker 3>Dollar deal, of which only ten billion dollar has actually closed,

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<v Speaker 3>and that didn't happen until fucking June. Without the imaginary

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<v Speaker 3>money from open Ai, US venture capital would have declined

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<v Speaker 3>by thirty six percent. I should also add another eight

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<v Speaker 3>point three billion dollars was added on the top of that,

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<v Speaker 3>but still that's less than forty dollars, folks. The longer

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<v Speaker 3>the open Ai survives, the longer it will sap the

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<v Speaker 3>remaining billions from the tech ecosystem, and I expect its

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<v Speaker 3>tendrils to extend to private credit soon too. The three

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<v Speaker 3>hundred and twenty five billion dollars it needs just to

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<v Speaker 3>fulfill its Nvidia contract, albeit over four years, is an

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<v Speaker 3>egregious sum that I believe exceeds the available private capital

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<v Speaker 3>in the world. And I went and actually looked, assuming

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<v Speaker 3>that all of this capital is currently available, the top

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<v Speaker 3>ten private equity films in the world have around four

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<v Speaker 3>hundred and seventy seven billion dollars of available capital. A reminder,

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<v Speaker 3>four hundred and seventy seven billion dollars is a lot

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<v Speaker 3>less than open AI's total commitments over the next few years.

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<v Speaker 3>In fact, I put a premium newsletter out just before

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<v Speaker 3>recording this, so I didn't totally update the script. But

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<v Speaker 3>open ai needs a trillion dollars. They need about five

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<v Speaker 3>hundred billion for operations and about four hundred and fifty

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<v Speaker 3>billion for all the data centers they promised and the

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<v Speaker 3>GPUs in them.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not really good, it's not good at all.

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<v Speaker 3>But if we include the cash at hand at the

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<v Speaker 3>biggest investment banks, this brings us up to By the way,

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<v Speaker 3>if we as seen that all of these funds are

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<v Speaker 3>available about five hundred and sixty two billion dollars in

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<v Speaker 3>capital and one hundred and sixty four billion dollars a

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<v Speaker 3>venture capital in the US to spend, and that's all

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<v Speaker 3>meant to go in more places than just open AI,

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<v Speaker 3>that's not enough. If we combind all the available private

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<v Speaker 3>equity firms in the top ten and all of the

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<v Speaker 3>available USVC, that's not enough to pay for all the

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<v Speaker 3>bills that the open aiy has said, it's we're in

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<v Speaker 3>a fucking bubble man. Come on, sure, I also get

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<v Speaker 3>that there's more than ten private equity firms and there's

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<v Speaker 3>more venture money in that they could raise more money

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<v Speaker 3>from lpiece, but what's the left exactly in our one

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<v Speaker 3>hundred and fifty two hundred and three hundred billion. They

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<v Speaker 3>need that, they need all of that. Hand that over

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<v Speaker 3>to Clammy Sami right now. Clammy needs to give that

0:20:05.040 --> 0:20:08.520
<v Speaker 3>money to Jensen. Jensen need money. Number go up, you asshole,

0:20:08.600 --> 0:20:25.160
<v Speaker 3>give money to Jensen Wong. Now you see open ai

0:20:25.320 --> 0:20:27.359
<v Speaker 3>needs to buy those GPUs, and it needs to build

0:20:27.359 --> 0:20:29.760
<v Speaker 3>those data centers, and it needs to pay it's thousands

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<v Speaker 3>of staff and marketing and sales costs too well. Open

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<v Speaker 3>Ai likely wouldn't be the ones raising the money for

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<v Speaker 3>the data centers, and honestly, I'm not sure who would.

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<v Speaker 3>At this point, somebody is going to need to build

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<v Speaker 3>twenty fucking gigawatts of data centers if we're going to

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<v Speaker 3>believe Oracle and Nvidia. You may argue that venture funds

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<v Speaker 3>and private equity funds can raise more, and you're right,

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<v Speaker 3>but at this point, there have been few meaningful acquisitions

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<v Speaker 3>of AI companies and zero exits from the billions of

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<v Speaker 3>dollars put into data centers. How are they meant to

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<v Speaker 3>justify doing this other than me need money?

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<v Speaker 2>Please?

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<v Speaker 3>Even open aims it's in its own announcement about new

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<v Speaker 3>stargate sites that this will be a four hundred billion

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<v Speaker 3>dollar investment over three years. Where the fuck's the money

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<v Speaker 3>coming from? Is open ai really going to absorb massive

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<v Speaker 3>junks of all available private credit and venture capital and

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<v Speaker 3>capex from major tech companies.

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<v Speaker 2>For the next few years?

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<v Speaker 3>And oh my fucking god, Oh my god, stop saying

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<v Speaker 3>the US government will bail this out. I'm tired of

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<v Speaker 3>hearing it. I get the things as scary right now.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm scared too, We're all fucking scared. But I get

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<v Speaker 3>jumping to doomerism.

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<v Speaker 2>But stop. The US government actually really can't afford to

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<v Speaker 2>do this. Open AI needs about.

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<v Speaker 3>A trillion dollars in the next four years. And while

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<v Speaker 3>the US government has spent equivalent sums in the past

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<v Speaker 3>to support private businesses, there's about four hundred and forty

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<v Speaker 3>billion dollars dispersed during the Great Recessions tart program, and

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<v Speaker 3>that was when the Treasury brought toxic assets from investment

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<v Speaker 3>banks to stop them from imploding.

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<v Speaker 2>Like Layman Brothers that one.

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<v Speaker 3>It's hard to imagine any case where open ai is

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<v Speaker 3>seen as vital to the global financial system and the

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<v Speaker 3>economic health of the US as the actual banking system.

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<v Speaker 3>And even if they were, that's more money than they

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<v Speaker 3>can easily mobilize, even for the US government. And sure,

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<v Speaker 3>we spent around a trillion dollars if we're being specific,

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<v Speaker 3>nine hundred and fifty three billion dollars on the paycheck

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<v Speaker 3>Protection program during the COVID era. That was to keep

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<v Speaker 3>people employed at a time when the economy outside of

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<v Speaker 3>Zoom and Walmart had, for all intents and purposes, ceased

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<v Speaker 3>to exist. There was an urgency that doesn't apply here.

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<v Speaker 3>If open ai goes tits up, soft Bank, Dragonnaer and

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<v Speaker 3>a few others lose a bit of money. Nothing new there,

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<v Speaker 3>and Sacha Nadella has to explain why he spent tens

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<v Speaker 3>of billions, actually hundreds of billions of dollars on data

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<v Speaker 3>centers fills with GPUs. But otherwise there's you can't really

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<v Speaker 3>bail this out. Are we going to nationalize in video?

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<v Speaker 3>Are we going to create a top fund just for

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<v Speaker 3>open ai? If you really believe that will happen. I

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<v Speaker 3>really must put a smile on your face.

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<v Speaker 2>It can't.

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<v Speaker 3>Even under the most crony capitalism scenario. This is more

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<v Speaker 3>money than actually really exists in the world. And yes,

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<v Speaker 3>while there will be and have been already disastrous economic consequences,

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<v Speaker 3>they won't be as systematically catastrophic as that of a

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<v Speaker 3>pandemic or a global financial crisis. To be clear, It'll

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<v Speaker 3>be bad, but not as bad. And there's also the

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<v Speaker 3>problem of a moral hazard. If the government steps in,

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<v Speaker 3>what's the stop big tech chasing its next frootless rainbow,

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<v Speaker 3>and of course the optics. If people resented bailing out

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<v Speaker 3>the banks after they acted like Gambler's and lost, how

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<v Speaker 3>will they feel bailing out fucking Sam Altman and Jensen Huang. Seriously,

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<v Speaker 3>no matter when you've got a conservative or Democrat government,

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<v Speaker 3>this is not going to be an easy thing to sell.

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<v Speaker 3>It's going to be hard to get the consensus, and

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<v Speaker 3>indeed every tech company will be kind of pissed. I

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<v Speaker 3>think that you miss you underestimate how upset companies that

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<v Speaker 3>have died would be, and indeed companies outside of tech

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<v Speaker 3>two this would be more than a scandal it would

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<v Speaker 3>be genuinely bad to do, even for the silliest government

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<v Speaker 3>in the world. I don't think it's happening, and even

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<v Speaker 3>if they try, there's not enough money.

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<v Speaker 2>Breathe, they can't get you. You're doing a podcast.

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<v Speaker 3>Look, this has been a slog and I appreciate you

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<v Speaker 3>sticking with me this long, but the significance of the

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<v Speaker 3>bubble requires this depth. There's little demand, little real money,

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<v Speaker 3>and little reason to continue, and the sheer lack of responsibility,

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<v Speaker 3>along with the willingness to kneel before the powerful, feels

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<v Speaker 3>me full of angry bio. I understand many journalists are

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<v Speaker 3>not in a position where they can just write this

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<v Speaker 3>shit sounds stupid, but we've entered a deeply stupid era,

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<v Speaker 3>and by continuing to perpetuate the myth of AI, the

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<v Speaker 3>media guarantees that retail investors and regular people's four O

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<v Speaker 3>one case will suffer. It is now inevitable that this

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<v Speaker 3>bubble bursts. Deutsche Bank has said that the AI boom

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<v Speaker 3>is unsustainable outside of tech spending remaining parabolic, which it

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<v Speaker 3>says is highly unlikely, and Bain Capital has said that

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<v Speaker 3>two trillion in new revenue is needed to fund AI scaling,

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<v Speaker 3>and even that math is completely fucked as it talks

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<v Speaker 3>about AI related savings, and I quote even if companies

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<v Speaker 3>in the US shifted all of their on premises, it

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<v Speaker 3>budgets the cloud and reinvested the savings from applying AI

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<v Speaker 3>in sales, marketing, customs support, and r D into capital

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<v Speaker 3>spending on new AI data centers, the amount would still

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<v Speaker 3>fall short of revenue, the revenue needed to fund the

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<v Speaker 3>full investment as AI's compute demands grow more than twice

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<v Speaker 3>the rate of Moore's law.

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<v Speaker 2>Ban notes.

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<v Speaker 3>Even when stared in the face by a ridiculous idea

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<v Speaker 3>two trillion dollars of new revenue in a global software

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<v Speaker 3>market and this is all software that's expected to be

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<v Speaker 3>around eight hundred and seventeen billion dollars in twenty twenty five,

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<v Speaker 3>Bain still ininks out some nonsense about the savings from

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<v Speaker 3>applying AI. Yet another myth perpetuated. I seem to plicate

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<v Speaker 3>the fucking moron sinking billions into this Every single vibe

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<v Speaker 3>Coding is the future, the power of AI and AI

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<v Speaker 3>job lot story written perpetuates a myth that will only

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<v Speaker 3>lead to more regular people getting hurt.

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<v Speaker 2>When the bubble bursts.

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<v Speaker 3>Every article written about open AI or in video or

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<v Speaker 3>oracle that does not explicitly state that the money doesn't exist,

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<v Speaker 3>that the revenues that are impossible, that one of the

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<v Speaker 3>companies involved burns billions of dollars and has no path

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<v Speaker 3>to profitability is an act of irresponsibility, and irresponsible make

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<v Speaker 3>belief and mythos. Look, I'm nobody, I'm not a financier,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not anybody special. I write a lot, I read

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<v Speaker 3>a lot, and can do the most basic maths in

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<v Speaker 3>the world. I'm not trying to be anything other than myself,

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<v Speaker 3>nor do I have an agenda other than the fact

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<v Speaker 3>that I like doing this and I hate how.

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<v Speaker 2>This story is being told.

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<v Speaker 3>I never expected my newsletter to get big, nor did

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<v Speaker 3>I expect this podcast, nor did I expect to be

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<v Speaker 3>in the Financial Times. But here I am, and I'm

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<v Speaker 3>working my ass off, and I am pissed off at

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<v Speaker 3>where this has got to. I'm tired that things remain

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<v Speaker 3>honestly mythical, that we still see as things get more

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<v Speaker 3>and more ridiculous, that the headlines get more ridiculous too,

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<v Speaker 3>that there's questioning and people are saying, oh, the narrative

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<v Speaker 3>is shifting, sure, but they're still repeating increasingly dumb shit.

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<v Speaker 3>And I also believe that the way to stop this

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<v Speaker 3>happening again is to have a thorough and well sourced

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<v Speaker 3>explanation of everything that happens, ripping down the narratives as

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<v Speaker 3>they're spun, and making it clear who benefits from them

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<v Speaker 3>and how on why they're choosing to do so. When

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<v Speaker 3>things collapse, we need to be clear about how many

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<v Speaker 3>times people chose to look the other way or to

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<v Speaker 3>find good faith ways to interpret bad faith announcements and leaks.

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<v Speaker 2>So how could we have seen this coming? I don't know,

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<v Speaker 2>did anybody.

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<v Speaker 3>Try to fucking look?

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