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Speaker 2: Like I'm nitpicking because they scored what forty eight points

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Speaker 2: To be clear, Clemson won this game last year in Tallahassee,

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Speaker 2: And I love that it's a nooner.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like the Dennis Dodd reports about.

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Speaker 2: How do you want to categorize him? Because they have

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Speaker 2: The X factor to me for both of these teams

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Speaker 1: Right that.

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Speaker 2: On the flip side, Colorado commits just as many penalties

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Speaker 2: Twenty ducks, and it's just I think Colorado is a

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Speaker 1: I'm very heavy organ in this game. Okay, I am

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Speaker 1: I think Schudar Sanders is very, very good. I think

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Speaker 1: Right?

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Speaker 2: There is something statementy about Dan Lanning and Dion Sanders

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Speaker 1: Fifty two to twenty one was my final. Let's get

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Speaker 2: Okay, so fascinating matchup, of course it is. It's Notre

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Speaker 2: definitely they have the more proven quarterback, although Kyle McCord

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Speaker 2: it's going to be Ohio State defense. The Ohio State

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Speaker 1: A good way. It does, it really does.

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Speaker 2: So I'm going to go with the environment. I'm going

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Speaker 2: I think there's more barely to like about the Irish.

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Speaker 2: I have Notre Dame winning. I have twenty four to

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Speaker 1: This is this is a momentous day for a couple

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Speaker 1: This year, I feel like that mindset has totally changed.

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Speaker 1: What are the pathways that Notre Dame could win this game?

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Speaker 1: lean too much on one side of it, I think

432
00:22:09,800 --> 00:22:13,320
Speaker 1: has really been important. They've been very balanced. They do

433
00:22:13,400 --> 00:22:15,600
Speaker 1: need to run the ball, and I feel like if

434
00:22:15,600 --> 00:22:17,919
Speaker 1: they can't run the ball effectively, that's a problem. I

435
00:22:17,920 --> 00:22:19,560
Speaker 1: don't want to put this all on Sam Hartman. I

436
00:22:19,600 --> 00:22:21,840
Speaker 1: think if Ohio State can force that kind of game,

437
00:22:21,880 --> 00:22:24,920
Speaker 1: if they can beat out the bully ball that Notre

438
00:22:25,000 --> 00:22:27,000
Speaker 1: Dame clearly wants to play, then that puts them in

439
00:22:27,000 --> 00:22:30,840
Speaker 1: an advantageous spot. But I do think that Notre Dame

440
00:22:31,080 --> 00:22:33,480
Speaker 1: is at least patient in their game plan. If it's

441
00:22:33,480 --> 00:22:37,560
Speaker 1: not working early and it probably won't, perhaps we see

442
00:22:37,680 --> 00:22:40,200
Speaker 1: something like what you described on the NC State side

443
00:22:40,800 --> 00:22:43,800
Speaker 1: where it's not working. It's not working, it's not working.

444
00:22:43,880 --> 00:22:45,960
Speaker 1: They come out of the delay, audric Estimeago's on a

445
00:22:46,000 --> 00:22:48,240
Speaker 1: long touchdown run and suddenly it breaks the whole thing open.

446
00:22:48,240 --> 00:22:51,200
Speaker 1: There's a pignata moment. Now the passing game is open,

447
00:22:51,200 --> 00:22:53,560
Speaker 1: now the running game is open. The whole thing just

448
00:22:53,600 --> 00:22:57,520
Speaker 1: sort of evaporated right before NC State's eyes. I'm hoping

449
00:22:57,560 --> 00:22:59,960
Speaker 1: as a Notre Dame fan that it's sort of goes

450
00:23:00,240 --> 00:23:03,679
Speaker 1: in that direction. If Notre Dame tries the running game early,

451
00:23:03,960 --> 00:23:05,760
Speaker 1: if it doesn't work, if they can get the big run,

452
00:23:05,800 --> 00:23:08,119
Speaker 1: that hopefully that opens up things for the rest of

453
00:23:08,119 --> 00:23:11,560
Speaker 1: the way. My biggest concern other than the running game

454
00:23:11,600 --> 00:23:13,040
Speaker 1: for Notre Dame is whether or not they can get

455
00:23:13,040 --> 00:23:16,760
Speaker 1: pressure on Kyle McCord. As you said, first big roads

456
00:23:16,800 --> 00:23:20,280
Speaker 1: start Kyle McCord, and just the way this offense is constructed,

457
00:23:20,280 --> 00:23:21,760
Speaker 1: they're going to try to do a lot of quick stuff.

458
00:23:21,760 --> 00:23:23,680
Speaker 1: They want to get the ball out to a mecha Igbuka,

459
00:23:23,680 --> 00:23:25,119
Speaker 1: they want to get the ball out to Marvin Harrison

460
00:23:25,119 --> 00:23:28,520
Speaker 1: as quickly as they can. Start with some high percentage stuff.

461
00:23:28,840 --> 00:23:31,080
Speaker 1: See where the game goes from there. But I think

462
00:23:31,119 --> 00:23:35,520
Speaker 1: that's where they're going to begin their festivities in South Bend.

463
00:23:35,760 --> 00:23:39,000
Speaker 1: It's with the quick stuff and after they get past that,

464
00:23:39,440 --> 00:23:42,280
Speaker 1: if Notre Dame can't pressure Kyle McCord after he has

465
00:23:42,320 --> 00:23:44,440
Speaker 1: a little bit of confidence with the high percentage throws

466
00:23:44,480 --> 00:23:48,120
Speaker 1: under his belt, that also spells problems for Notre Dame.

467
00:23:48,720 --> 00:23:50,760
Speaker 1: I think Notre Dame secondary is good enough to hang

468
00:23:51,560 --> 00:23:55,280
Speaker 1: to some extent with these receivers, but not all day. Okay,

469
00:23:55,560 --> 00:23:58,040
Speaker 1: not all day. So they need to find a way

470
00:23:58,040 --> 00:23:59,560
Speaker 1: to bring pressure. They need to find a way to

471
00:23:59,680 --> 00:24:02,680
Speaker 1: change his rhythm and get him out of I don't

472
00:24:02,680 --> 00:24:06,600
Speaker 1: know whatever confidence they can build early. And you know,

473
00:24:06,640 --> 00:24:08,239
Speaker 1: to your point about the not Dame pass rush, I've

474
00:24:08,240 --> 00:24:10,880
Speaker 1: probably mischaracterized it a little bit. It has been very

475
00:24:10,880 --> 00:24:13,720
Speaker 1: good for the most part. I just I want to

476
00:24:13,760 --> 00:24:15,840
Speaker 1: see if they can get home. Their sack rates have

477
00:24:15,920 --> 00:24:19,720
Speaker 1: been below average nationally. I think this is close is

478
00:24:19,760 --> 00:24:22,240
Speaker 1: an awesome game. I think it features a little bit

479
00:24:22,280 --> 00:24:25,680
Speaker 1: of everything really on both sides, everything that both teams

480
00:24:25,680 --> 00:24:28,280
Speaker 1: are good at. I think the difference is going to

481
00:24:28,359 --> 00:24:30,520
Speaker 1: be the Notre Dame passing game. Are you worried though?

482
00:24:30,680 --> 00:24:33,919
Speaker 2: Are you worried if I may the mismatch to me

483
00:24:34,480 --> 00:24:38,840
Speaker 2: is the combination of receivers rising to the occasion we

484
00:24:38,960 --> 00:24:41,520
Speaker 2: know who it is. For Ohio State, we still don't

485
00:24:41,560 --> 00:24:43,800
Speaker 2: have that concept on this kind of stage about Notre

486
00:24:43,880 --> 00:24:48,520
Speaker 2: Dame Jared Parker against Jim Knowles and like, I'm pointing

487
00:24:48,560 --> 00:24:50,800
Speaker 2: in that like Super Spike v Ball, remember that Super

488
00:24:50,800 --> 00:24:53,760
Speaker 2: Spike volleyball game with the judge and she points, I'm

489
00:24:53,800 --> 00:24:56,160
Speaker 2: pointing at Jim Knowles there, I'm pointing to Jim Noles

490
00:24:56,160 --> 00:24:57,760
Speaker 2: in talent there where I was like, this is where

491
00:24:57,840 --> 00:25:01,399
Speaker 2: Notre Dame doesn't stack up. And that's We've seen it

492
00:25:01,440 --> 00:25:03,600
Speaker 2: too many times in these kind of moments where you

493
00:25:03,800 --> 00:25:06,760
Speaker 2: just like, oh, this guy's different, right and Notre Dame

494
00:25:06,800 --> 00:25:08,800
Speaker 2: hasn't doesn't have that guy where you say, yeah, this

495
00:25:08,840 --> 00:25:10,840
Speaker 2: guy's different. At least it seems that way to me

496
00:25:10,960 --> 00:25:11,280
Speaker 2: right now.

497
00:25:11,760 --> 00:25:16,119
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I think that maybe we are starting to

498
00:25:16,200 --> 00:25:18,679
Speaker 1: figure out who those guys are, and you kind of

499
00:25:18,680 --> 00:25:20,520
Speaker 1: took the words out of my mouth, like I think,

500
00:25:21,119 --> 00:25:24,399
Speaker 1: I think Notre Dame's quiet ability to get vertical with

501
00:25:24,520 --> 00:25:26,679
Speaker 1: some of the names that we don't know yet is

502
00:25:26,760 --> 00:25:30,480
Speaker 1: ultimately the difference here, because we've seen on occasion Jaden

503
00:25:30,560 --> 00:25:34,560
Speaker 1: great House become a favorite target of Sam Hartman, newcomer.

504
00:25:34,840 --> 00:25:38,680
Speaker 1: We've seen Tobias Merriweather very lightly used. Tobias Merriweather got

505
00:25:38,680 --> 00:25:41,200
Speaker 1: in on the action and proved last year in very

506
00:25:41,240 --> 00:25:44,159
Speaker 1: limited action, and this year again has shown that he

507
00:25:44,240 --> 00:25:46,600
Speaker 1: wants to get vertical. I think those are the guys

508
00:25:46,600 --> 00:25:48,359
Speaker 1: that can be difference makers. We just haven't seen a

509
00:25:48,359 --> 00:25:51,000
Speaker 1: whole lot out of them yet. That's my take. I've

510
00:25:51,000 --> 00:25:52,480
Speaker 1: got Notre Dame out right, and I've got up Notre

511
00:25:52,560 --> 00:25:55,040
Speaker 1: Dame thirty one to thirty, and I'm totally.

512
00:25:54,800 --> 00:25:58,600
Speaker 2: Questioning it the way I just the combination of Jim

513
00:25:58,680 --> 00:26:01,240
Speaker 2: Knowles and Sam Hartman have like the quarter and a

514
00:26:01,280 --> 00:26:02,840
Speaker 2: half of three picks were.

515
00:26:02,880 --> 00:26:05,200
Speaker 1: Like, oh God, is it this week? Is it this week?

516
00:26:06,240 --> 00:26:08,440
Speaker 1: A little too Notre Dame, a little too much steam

517
00:26:08,480 --> 00:26:10,840
Speaker 1: on Notre Dame. Not just you and I seventy percent

518
00:26:10,920 --> 00:26:13,199
Speaker 1: of the people watching live. My hunch is at the

519
00:26:13,200 --> 00:26:15,760
Speaker 1: public's going to back Notre Dame as well, just because

520
00:26:15,800 --> 00:26:16,960
Speaker 1: it's a fun play at home.

521
00:26:17,400 --> 00:26:20,280
Speaker 2: Yeah I'm going Irish and yeah I'm sticking with it.

522
00:26:20,600 --> 00:26:26,000
Speaker 1: Final Big Dog seven thirty on at the same time

523
00:26:26,040 --> 00:26:30,040
Speaker 1: as this Notre Dame game CBS, it's Iowa at Penn

524
00:26:30,040 --> 00:26:32,919
Speaker 1: State Penn State is a fourteen and a half point favorite.

525
00:26:32,960 --> 00:26:34,439
Speaker 1: Dam Yeah, I love that.

526
00:26:34,480 --> 00:26:36,400
Speaker 2: I love that we're including this in Big Dogs even

527
00:26:36,400 --> 00:26:38,760
Speaker 2: though it's a white out game. Iowas ranked, Penn State

528
00:26:38,840 --> 00:26:43,160
Speaker 2: is ranked. It's it's deservedly in this spot, though. Man,

529
00:26:43,560 --> 00:26:45,760
Speaker 2: after what Penn State looked like on offense last week,

530
00:26:45,760 --> 00:26:49,080
Speaker 2: what Iowa has looked like on offense since nineteen ninety three,

531
00:26:51,320 --> 00:26:54,480
Speaker 2: I don't know. My read on this game is I

532
00:26:55,320 --> 00:26:59,120
Speaker 2: am loving the idea of taking the points in this game. Yeah,

533
00:26:59,160 --> 00:27:02,040
Speaker 2: because yeah, you have to this many points in this

534
00:27:02,080 --> 00:27:06,480
Speaker 2: specific matchup with a quarterback who has come nowhere near

535
00:27:06,560 --> 00:27:09,479
Speaker 2: seeing a defense like what Iowa should be able to present.

536
00:27:10,320 --> 00:27:16,520
Speaker 2: It just yells twenty one, sixteen, nineteen to twelve, twenty

537
00:27:16,560 --> 00:27:19,560
Speaker 2: three to fifteen something in that ign two touchdowns to

538
00:27:19,640 --> 00:27:23,240
Speaker 2: me when you don't have proven electricity to me on

539
00:27:23,280 --> 00:27:26,440
Speaker 2: offense for Penn State as of yet all around, like, oh,

540
00:27:26,440 --> 00:27:28,080
Speaker 2: we can win like this on offense, We can win

541
00:27:28,160 --> 00:27:30,600
Speaker 2: like that on offense. I think Drew Aller's ceiling is

542
00:27:30,720 --> 00:27:34,000
Speaker 2: fascinating and super duper high, but throwing into the teeth

543
00:27:34,040 --> 00:27:36,600
Speaker 2: of this Iowa defense even at home, even with this,

544
00:27:37,240 --> 00:27:38,960
Speaker 2: I think there's a certain amount of pressure that comes

545
00:27:38,960 --> 00:27:41,440
Speaker 2: with being a Penn State quarterback in a whiteout game

546
00:27:41,760 --> 00:27:45,280
Speaker 2: against a ranked great defense. So now I'm taking the points.

547
00:27:45,280 --> 00:27:48,040
Speaker 2: Penn State wins by you know, six to eight points

548
00:27:48,080 --> 00:27:48,600
Speaker 2: somewhere there.

549
00:27:48,800 --> 00:27:54,480
Speaker 1: October twenty third, two thousand and four. Oh, we're going

550
00:27:54,520 --> 00:27:58,520
Speaker 1: back to this annually. October twenty third, two thousand and four,

551
00:27:58,840 --> 00:28:01,879
Speaker 1: there were one hundred and six and seventy two people

552
00:28:02,080 --> 00:28:04,840
Speaker 1: in Beaver's at crammed shoulder to shoulder in Beaver Stadium.

553
00:28:05,240 --> 00:28:09,040
Speaker 1: I was one of those poor souls, and I never recovered.

554
00:28:09,680 --> 00:28:12,440
Speaker 1: I never recovered from that six to four game. I

555
00:28:12,480 --> 00:28:15,040
Speaker 1: don't care what the point spread is. I saw fourteen

556
00:28:15,080 --> 00:28:18,439
Speaker 1: and a half. My eyes got like saucers, Are you

557
00:28:18,560 --> 00:28:22,240
Speaker 1: kidding me? I can't in good faith lay the points

558
00:28:22,560 --> 00:28:25,320
Speaker 1: knowing what the history of this game looks like. I

559
00:28:25,400 --> 00:28:27,520
Speaker 1: just can't do it. I think the key to this

560
00:28:27,560 --> 00:28:29,639
Speaker 1: game is whether Penn State can run the ball, because

561
00:28:29,640 --> 00:28:32,240
Speaker 1: that's the bedrock of the whole thing here. They did

562
00:28:32,280 --> 00:28:35,360
Speaker 1: not have much success doing that against Illinois, and this

563
00:28:35,440 --> 00:28:38,440
Speaker 1: is a better defensive front. So I think I was

564
00:28:38,480 --> 00:28:41,920
Speaker 1: good enough to shut it down for a while. But

565
00:28:42,000 --> 00:28:45,680
Speaker 1: the frustrating part about Penn State's run game is it's

566
00:28:45,720 --> 00:28:48,840
Speaker 1: almost not built around forty five carries, thirty five carries.

567
00:28:49,160 --> 00:28:51,640
Speaker 1: It's built around thirty carries that go nowhere. And then

568
00:28:51,720 --> 00:28:54,120
Speaker 1: Nick Singleton running for seventy eight yards in a touchdown

569
00:28:54,400 --> 00:29:00,240
Speaker 1: and that home run is what basically breaks it. Those

570
00:29:00,280 --> 00:29:02,240
Speaker 1: two to three home runs are what I'm counting on here,

571
00:29:02,280 --> 00:29:03,920
Speaker 1: because I do think they're going to be stymied for

572
00:29:03,920 --> 00:29:05,360
Speaker 1: the most part on the ground. And just think i

573
00:29:05,560 --> 00:29:08,880
Speaker 1: was a very good defensive front. Whether it's scoring a

574
00:29:08,920 --> 00:29:11,800
Speaker 1: touchdown on a long run, whether it's flipping the field

575
00:29:11,920 --> 00:29:14,720
Speaker 1: on a long run. Penn State needs a couple of

576
00:29:14,720 --> 00:29:17,040
Speaker 1: those if they want to win this game at home.

577
00:29:17,200 --> 00:29:20,080
Speaker 1: Now that, by the way, weird mismatch in this one,

578
00:29:20,440 --> 00:29:23,040
Speaker 1: just because you're talking about that. When you flip it,

579
00:29:23,720 --> 00:29:27,440
Speaker 1: Penn State's defensive front against Iowa's offensive line might be

580
00:29:27,840 --> 00:29:30,720
Speaker 1: super advantageous for Penn State. Oh, big times, big time,

581
00:29:30,960 --> 00:29:33,760
Speaker 1: big time. So I mean, I think you have to

582
00:29:33,760 --> 00:29:36,160
Speaker 1: pick Penn State outright because they've got too many ways

583
00:29:36,160 --> 00:29:38,360
Speaker 1: to win this game. And how many points does I

584
00:29:38,400 --> 00:29:41,040
Speaker 1: would need to win? Do they need like twenty twenty

585
00:29:41,120 --> 00:29:44,680
Speaker 1: seven points to win this game? Yeah, something like that.

586
00:29:44,680 --> 00:29:47,080
Speaker 1: Are you confident that they can get to that. I'm not.

587
00:29:47,320 --> 00:29:49,520
Speaker 2: I actually don't think they need twenty seven. How many

588
00:29:49,560 --> 00:29:51,720
Speaker 2: do they need to win this game? I think if

589
00:29:52,200 --> 00:29:55,840
Speaker 2: I could, if you told me Iowa won outright twenty

590
00:29:55,880 --> 00:29:58,440
Speaker 2: one to eighteen, I'm like, that's about right. I think

591
00:29:58,480 --> 00:29:59,840
Speaker 2: they need to get above twenty. I don't think they

592
00:29:59,880 --> 00:30:02,360
Speaker 2: can win this game scoring fewer than that. I'm just

593
00:30:02,360 --> 00:30:04,640
Speaker 2: not there with Penn State. You're talking about it right now,

594
00:30:04,640 --> 00:30:07,560
Speaker 2: the Penn State rushing attack. It's not efficient at the moment.

595
00:30:07,760 --> 00:30:10,959
Speaker 1: No, it's built on those home runs. That's what it's

596
00:30:11,000 --> 00:30:11,480
Speaker 1: built around.

597
00:30:11,560 --> 00:30:13,800
Speaker 2: And that's what is a little bit worrisome to me.

598
00:30:15,280 --> 00:30:17,880
Speaker 2: The way I see Penn State actually covering this game.

599
00:30:18,240 --> 00:30:19,680
Speaker 2: If you were to tell me in advance, if you

600
00:30:19,760 --> 00:30:21,479
Speaker 2: had a crystal ball and you're like, Abdul Carter has

601
00:30:21,480 --> 00:30:24,200
Speaker 2: a pick six, right, that like, Penn State gets home,

602
00:30:24,400 --> 00:30:27,320
Speaker 2: Kate McNamara throws a weird floater as he's being tackled,

603
00:30:27,720 --> 00:30:31,320
Speaker 2: and they're able to cushion themselves with a pick six. Okay,

604
00:30:31,800 --> 00:30:34,400
Speaker 2: That's that's where I see Penn State covering. Short of that,

605
00:30:34,440 --> 00:30:37,360
Speaker 2: which you can't count on. Yeah, I'm going I'm go

606
00:30:37,360 --> 00:30:37,840
Speaker 2: one points.

607
00:30:37,880 --> 00:30:40,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I just I don't know how Iowa

608
00:30:40,320 --> 00:30:43,440
Speaker 1: was scoring. And it should be said that they lost

609
00:30:43,480 --> 00:30:45,400
Speaker 1: their tight end Luke Lasche for the season on a

610
00:30:45,480 --> 00:30:48,880
Speaker 1: leg injury. Gruesome leg injury. He was their primary target

611
00:30:49,200 --> 00:30:51,880
Speaker 1: in the passing game. Also, their top two running backs

612
00:30:51,880 --> 00:30:54,560
Speaker 1: I haven't checked as of this warning, but at last

613
00:30:54,680 --> 00:30:58,200
Speaker 1: check their top two running backs Caleb Johnson Jazz Patterson,

614
00:30:58,240 --> 00:30:59,880
Speaker 1: who is kind of the star in the Syhawk game.

615
00:31:00,120 --> 00:31:02,840
Speaker 1: Both those guys are dinged up. Neither was on the

616
00:31:02,920 --> 00:31:05,440
Speaker 1: latest too deep for the depth chart for this weekend.

617
00:31:06,280 --> 00:31:09,600
Speaker 1: So how are they scoring those points? I don't know. Still,

618
00:31:09,640 --> 00:31:11,640
Speaker 1: there is no way in hell I am giving fourteen

619
00:31:11,680 --> 00:31:13,880
Speaker 1: and a half. I don't care if I'm wrong. The

620
00:31:13,920 --> 00:31:19,640
Speaker 1: scars are too real for me. Penn State wins twenty

621
00:31:19,680 --> 00:31:23,640
Speaker 1: four to eleven, so barely not cover I guess, barely

622
00:31:23,680 --> 00:31:27,880
Speaker 1: not covering, but it's it's a lower scoring game than

623
00:31:28,240 --> 00:31:30,320
Speaker 1: would meet the eye because it's Penn State Iowa.

624
00:31:30,440 --> 00:31:32,200
Speaker 2: And then I just went to throw sixteen. That's what

625
00:31:32,280 --> 00:31:34,040
Speaker 2: I wrote down. Okay, we agree?

626
00:31:34,360 --> 00:31:35,760
Speaker 1: Do we agree on all four of those?

627
00:31:36,680 --> 00:31:40,480
Speaker 2: I think so I'm worried about I'm not especially worried

628
00:31:40,480 --> 00:31:43,440
Speaker 2: about the Oregon one I'm not especially worried about Florida State.

629
00:31:43,440 --> 00:31:46,000
Speaker 2: I'm worried about Notre Dame and Iowa as picks there.

630
00:31:46,400 --> 00:31:48,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, little too much stemo on Notre Dame. I don't

631
00:31:48,840 --> 00:31:50,960
Speaker 1: like that. Let's get to the early window of games

632
00:31:50,960 --> 00:31:57,360
Speaker 1: if we can breath. Some other games that we could

633
00:31:57,440 --> 00:31:59,600
Speaker 1: not cover that are also very, very significant. We didn't

634
00:31:59,600 --> 00:32:03,240
Speaker 1: cover them in the Big Dogs. But Sourdough, I knew,

635
00:32:05,520 --> 00:32:09,600
Speaker 1: catch you off guard, right, Yeah, I did the Berman

636
00:32:09,720 --> 00:32:12,840
Speaker 1: voice later for the Sour Dough. Yeah, twelve o'clock hei

637
00:32:12,960 --> 00:32:17,000
Speaker 1: noon on Fox Oklahoma at Cincinnati. They're covering a game

638
00:32:17,080 --> 00:32:20,440
Speaker 1: other than Colorado, which is a treat. Oh my god.

639
00:32:20,880 --> 00:32:24,240
Speaker 1: Oklahoma favored by fourteen and a half at Cincinnati. I've

640
00:32:24,240 --> 00:32:27,400
Speaker 1: been really down on Cincinnati since they hired Scott Sadderfield,

641
00:32:27,840 --> 00:32:29,720
Speaker 1: and to be honest, I was looking through the numbers

642
00:32:29,760 --> 00:32:31,600
Speaker 1: this week. It's probably been a little bit over the top,

643
00:32:32,840 --> 00:32:35,840
Speaker 1: and I wanted to give them their fair shake. This week.

644
00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:37,800
Speaker 1: I did pop the hood on the numbers. You think

645
00:32:37,840 --> 00:32:41,280
Speaker 1: you were being too mean to the Bearcats? Oh, definitely,

646
00:32:41,440 --> 00:32:45,120
Speaker 1: I definitely was. I definitely was. So I took it

647
00:32:45,200 --> 00:32:47,720
Speaker 1: upon myself this week to pop the hood on the numbers.

648
00:32:48,440 --> 00:32:50,400
Speaker 1: Make sure I'm kicking the tires, make sure I am

649
00:32:50,440 --> 00:32:52,280
Speaker 1: giving them their fair shake. When we're talking about a

650
00:32:52,360 --> 00:32:56,560
Speaker 1: very big game here at home against Oklahoma. The story

651
00:32:56,600 --> 00:32:59,120
Speaker 1: that the numbers told actually in Cincinnati is very interesting.

652
00:33:00,040 --> 00:33:02,720
Speaker 1: I felt like they spoke to me, Okay, literally spoke

653
00:33:02,760 --> 00:33:09,880
Speaker 1: to me. Continue through the spreadsheet, they said, bet Oklahoma.

654
00:33:10,120 --> 00:33:12,760
Speaker 1: Here's why the Cincinnati defense is not bad.

655
00:33:12,840 --> 00:33:17,480
Speaker 2: Since Cincinnati has allowed the most big plays, right, it's

656
00:33:17,560 --> 00:33:18,080
Speaker 2: not bad.

657
00:33:18,960 --> 00:33:21,800
Speaker 1: It grades out as a top forty defense in the country.

658
00:33:21,840 --> 00:33:24,120
Speaker 1: But the problem has been the big plays, especially in

659
00:33:24,160 --> 00:33:29,479
Speaker 1: the passing game. And get this, it's especially when they blitz,

660
00:33:30,240 --> 00:33:34,920
Speaker 1: especially when they blitz. Right now, Cincinnati profiles as a

661
00:33:34,960 --> 00:33:38,360
Speaker 1: feast or fanine kind of defense, honestly, the kind that

662
00:33:39,400 --> 00:33:42,320
Speaker 1: internalized the whole aggressive attacking mentality that I like to

663
00:33:42,400 --> 00:33:46,600
Speaker 1: joke about. Brian Brown, their defensive coordinator, literally told the

664
00:33:46,600 --> 00:33:48,960
Speaker 1: local media back in August, quote, we want to be

665
00:33:49,000 --> 00:33:52,360
Speaker 1: an attacking style defense, and that shows itself in the numbers.

666
00:33:52,200 --> 00:33:54,080
Speaker 1: It's very apparent that that's what they're trying to do.

667
00:33:54,120 --> 00:33:56,560
Speaker 1: It just doesn't always work, and when they can't get home,

668
00:33:56,600 --> 00:33:59,440
Speaker 1: that's when they get scolded. In the past game I'm

669
00:33:59,440 --> 00:34:03,080
Speaker 1: interested to see how this works against Oklahoma because this

670
00:34:03,240 --> 00:34:06,080
Speaker 1: is a better opponent than we've seen Oklahoma play thus far.

671
00:34:06,200 --> 00:34:08,120
Speaker 1: So maybe maybe this will provide a bit of a

672
00:34:08,120 --> 00:34:11,080
Speaker 1: speedbump for them. I don't know. I'm not counting on that,

673
00:34:11,640 --> 00:34:14,120
Speaker 1: but I'm interested to see how they handle a defense

674
00:34:14,120 --> 00:34:15,640
Speaker 1: that's going to come at them. They really are going

675
00:34:15,680 --> 00:34:17,640
Speaker 1: to come at them. So I think it's something like

676
00:34:18,160 --> 00:34:20,719
Speaker 1: forty two to twenty four Oklahoma. I think we might

677
00:34:20,800 --> 00:34:26,080
Speaker 1: look back and say our first sign of Cincinnati not

678
00:34:26,160 --> 00:34:29,600
Speaker 1: being that great is allowing twenty one points to the

679
00:34:29,640 --> 00:34:32,400
Speaker 1: pit Panthers. It's too many.

680
00:34:32,160 --> 00:34:34,439
Speaker 2: Points to allow them. Once you allow that many points. Yeah,

681
00:34:34,560 --> 00:34:37,440
Speaker 2: I don't love their defense. I don't love counting on

682
00:34:37,480 --> 00:34:40,640
Speaker 2: Emery Jones. I don't love that Cincinnati might be like

683
00:34:40,760 --> 00:34:43,840
Speaker 2: the fourth best team in Ohio after losing to Miami

684
00:34:43,960 --> 00:34:48,160
Speaker 2: last week. I think Oklahoma is better. I think I

685
00:34:48,880 --> 00:34:53,200
Speaker 2: like both sides of the ball better. I'm not going

686
00:34:53,239 --> 00:34:55,839
Speaker 2: to overthink this. I don't think Cincinnati is especially good,

687
00:34:55,840 --> 00:34:58,319
Speaker 2: and I think Oklahoma is. What's the line at the

688
00:34:58,400 --> 00:34:59,600
Speaker 2: present moon and a half?

689
00:35:00,040 --> 00:35:01,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think they're going to win this game by

690
00:35:01,280 --> 00:35:06,040
Speaker 1: seventeen to twenty one. Another Big one at noon on ESPN.

691
00:35:06,120 --> 00:35:10,160
Speaker 1: Excuse me. Auburn at Texas A and M. A and

692
00:35:10,280 --> 00:35:12,919
Speaker 1: M favored by seven and a half at home. Fascinating game.

693
00:35:13,440 --> 00:35:15,400
Speaker 1: Fascinating game because we know a lot about A and

694
00:35:15,520 --> 00:35:18,400
Speaker 1: M at this point and almost nothing about Auburn. We

695
00:35:18,480 --> 00:35:21,279
Speaker 1: know that Auburn hammered UMass and Sanford and barely got

696
00:35:21,320 --> 00:35:24,120
Speaker 1: by Cow on that road yep, back in week two.

697
00:35:24,920 --> 00:35:27,520
Speaker 1: What Auburn's doing is actually a bit of I don't know,

698
00:35:27,560 --> 00:35:31,080
Speaker 1: it's a little counterintuitive because they're running a bit more

699
00:35:31,120 --> 00:35:33,879
Speaker 1: than you'd expect from a Hugh Freeze offense, and they're

700
00:35:33,920 --> 00:35:37,239
Speaker 1: not a very explosive team. However, when they pass, they

701
00:35:37,280 --> 00:35:39,759
Speaker 1: are taking shots down the field. And that's what I

702
00:35:39,800 --> 00:35:42,400
Speaker 1: think makes this game really interesting, because that's how you

703
00:35:42,440 --> 00:35:44,040
Speaker 1: get A and M. If you look at the numbers,

704
00:35:44,080 --> 00:35:45,600
Speaker 1: that's how you get A and M. Right now, they've

705
00:35:45,640 --> 00:35:48,680
Speaker 1: given up a bunch of big pass plays. Big run

706
00:35:48,719 --> 00:35:52,000
Speaker 1: plays too, they don't discriminate, but a bunch of big plays,

707
00:35:52,040 --> 00:35:56,480
Speaker 1: especially through the air. And you know Auburn, like Auburn's

708
00:35:56,520 --> 00:35:59,840
Speaker 1: rebuilding a bit after the Brian Harson thing. I get this,

709
00:36:00,080 --> 00:36:04,080
Speaker 1: and so that they're already pretty organized around their identity

710
00:36:04,080 --> 00:36:06,960
Speaker 1: and what they're trying to do. On offense, I think

711
00:36:07,000 --> 00:36:09,239
Speaker 1: they can move the ball. I think they can get

712
00:36:09,239 --> 00:36:12,399
Speaker 1: pressure on Connor Wegman. They're not even a great pass

713
00:36:12,480 --> 00:36:14,120
Speaker 1: rushing team, but I think they can get pressure on

714
00:36:14,160 --> 00:36:16,799
Speaker 1: Connor Wegman. Connor Wegman's dealt with that all year. He's

715
00:36:16,800 --> 00:36:19,680
Speaker 1: been very good under pressure and they have not protected

716
00:36:19,719 --> 00:36:22,879
Speaker 1: him at all. He's completed like seventy percent whatever it is,

717
00:36:23,160 --> 00:36:26,279
Speaker 1: so he's been good in spite of the line. I

718
00:36:26,280 --> 00:36:29,680
Speaker 1: don't know, like, am I too deep in my spreadsheets here? Yes? Okay?

719
00:36:29,840 --> 00:36:32,439
Speaker 1: Am I too deep in the spreadsheets? Close?

720
00:36:32,840 --> 00:36:35,800
Speaker 2: Let's pull back. Okay, I'm not super confident in A

721
00:36:35,880 --> 00:36:38,200
Speaker 2: and M, especially after seeing what they did or didn't

722
00:36:38,200 --> 00:36:41,799
Speaker 2: do against A and M. Excuse me against Miami. But

723
00:36:41,880 --> 00:36:45,520
Speaker 2: this is sort of like you saying, Okay, it's clear

724
00:36:45,640 --> 00:36:48,879
Speaker 2: the way that that everybody should beat the Golden State

725
00:36:48,920 --> 00:36:51,759
Speaker 2: Warriors is by backing them down in the post. So

726
00:36:51,840 --> 00:36:54,040
Speaker 2: if I feel like I get the ball in the post,

727
00:36:54,160 --> 00:36:57,040
Speaker 2: I tie Hildon get the ball in the post, I

728
00:36:57,040 --> 00:36:59,680
Speaker 2: have a pretty good shot, all right. Like, yes, of course,

729
00:37:00,040 --> 00:37:01,520
Speaker 2: if you have Tyler van Dyke, if you have the

730
00:37:01,520 --> 00:37:05,960
Speaker 2: Miami offense and Miami receivers and the new look Miami

731
00:37:06,000 --> 00:37:08,560
Speaker 2: offensive line, and you're playing at Miami, you have a

732
00:37:08,600 --> 00:37:11,080
Speaker 2: pretty good shot to make some hay against the Texas

733
00:37:11,120 --> 00:37:13,680
Speaker 2: A and M defense. If you're bringing Peyton Thorn and

734
00:37:13,760 --> 00:37:17,640
Speaker 2: Robbie Ashford to the party, maybe you're not Ty hilden Brandton.

735
00:37:17,800 --> 00:37:19,760
Speaker 2: Maybe you are Ti hilden Brandt in the post against

736
00:37:19,760 --> 00:37:23,800
Speaker 2: the Golden State Warriors. That's the thing. So I'm going

737
00:37:23,840 --> 00:37:26,560
Speaker 2: with A and M here. I think there's enough firepower

738
00:37:26,560 --> 00:37:28,200
Speaker 2: for the A and M offense. I think they're going

739
00:37:28,239 --> 00:37:31,719
Speaker 2: to get more comfortable within this offense at home. And

740
00:37:32,000 --> 00:37:34,440
Speaker 2: while Auburn has a couple of really interesting pieces, I

741
00:37:34,440 --> 00:37:36,839
Speaker 2: saw our friend Bud Elliott talk about a linebacker who's

742
00:37:36,880 --> 00:37:40,640
Speaker 2: been popping for Auburn recently, and so I like all

743
00:37:40,719 --> 00:37:43,479
Speaker 2: that for Auburn in the long term over the course

744
00:37:43,480 --> 00:37:45,839
Speaker 2: of this season, that they're building a defense. But if

745
00:37:45,880 --> 00:37:48,400
Speaker 2: you're talking to me about on the road against an

746
00:37:48,440 --> 00:37:50,920
Speaker 2: offense that I still think can score points, and you're

747
00:37:50,920 --> 00:37:56,160
Speaker 2: bringing the Auburn quarterback situation, the Auburn firepower situation, no,

748
00:37:56,440 --> 00:37:58,239
Speaker 2: I think A and M wins this game something like

749
00:37:58,400 --> 00:38:00,920
Speaker 2: thirty three to twenty eight sixteen.

750
00:38:01,760 --> 00:38:05,319
Speaker 1: One interesting factoid on the aud front. J Fair, their

751
00:38:05,360 --> 00:38:08,200
Speaker 1: wide receiver. He's run twenty roots and he's been targeted

752
00:38:08,280 --> 00:38:10,759
Speaker 1: nineteen times. Peyton Thorne seems to like him.

753
00:38:10,760 --> 00:38:12,719
Speaker 2: That's a lot, now, Okay, he's zeroing in.

754
00:38:12,840 --> 00:38:15,279
Speaker 1: Ninety five percent of the time he runs, he gets

755
00:38:15,280 --> 00:38:17,880
Speaker 1: the ball thrown his way. Thirty one twenty eight A

756
00:38:17,920 --> 00:38:22,440
Speaker 1: and M wins. I think it's close, all right, very quickly,

757
00:38:22,480 --> 00:38:24,919
Speaker 1: just a few quick mentions here the Iron Skillet game

758
00:38:25,239 --> 00:38:27,719
Speaker 1: at high noon on FS one. It's SMU at TCU.

759
00:38:27,800 --> 00:38:30,840
Speaker 1: TCU favored by six and a half at home. We

760
00:38:30,920 --> 00:38:34,400
Speaker 1: also have Kentucky minus fourteen on the road at Vandy.

761
00:38:34,760 --> 00:38:38,560
Speaker 1: We've got Rutgers at Michigan, Michigan favored by twenty four,

762
00:38:38,960 --> 00:38:43,040
Speaker 1: Virginia Tech a five point road dog, yes against Marshall,

763
00:38:43,840 --> 00:38:46,879
Speaker 1: and also Army at Syracuse Syracuse favored by fourteen and

764
00:38:47,360 --> 00:38:49,400
Speaker 1: a half points. Any thoughts in any of those games

765
00:38:49,400 --> 00:38:50,880
Speaker 1: before we moved to the afternoon block.

766
00:38:51,320 --> 00:38:54,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, I have Kentucky here just because of the Vanderbilt

767
00:38:54,080 --> 00:38:56,440
Speaker 2: defense that you know, the doors have been moving the

768
00:38:56,440 --> 00:39:00,359
Speaker 2: ball well enough. I'm curious about Kentucky's receivers a wake up.

769
00:39:00,400 --> 00:39:03,480
Speaker 2: They've kind of disappeared at times, but I think it's bandy.

770
00:39:03,480 --> 00:39:05,160
Speaker 2: I think in a revenge spot, by the way for

771
00:39:05,239 --> 00:39:08,080
Speaker 2: Kentucky losing that game last year Michigan. I've liked the

772
00:39:08,120 --> 00:39:11,040
Speaker 2: under this year at Michigan games because it seems like

773
00:39:11,280 --> 00:39:14,400
Speaker 2: the new clock rules heard a team like Michigan in

774
00:39:14,480 --> 00:39:17,759
Speaker 2: terms of running away. But Jim Harbaugh's back, right, so

775
00:39:17,800 --> 00:39:20,360
Speaker 2: there might be some sort of enthusiasm and effort and

776
00:39:20,440 --> 00:39:23,320
Speaker 2: explosion players playing a little bit differently.

777
00:39:23,360 --> 00:39:23,920
Speaker 1: Who knows.

778
00:39:24,040 --> 00:39:26,040
Speaker 2: As much as I like Rutgers, I don't like their

779
00:39:26,040 --> 00:39:28,920
Speaker 2: offense on the road against what appears to be an

780
00:39:28,920 --> 00:39:32,600
Speaker 2: excellent Michigan defense. So I think I think the Mazon

781
00:39:32,600 --> 00:39:34,360
Speaker 2: Blue runaway with this and win it by you know,

782
00:39:34,440 --> 00:39:38,400
Speaker 2: five or six touchdowns, something pretty large. I like Marshall

783
00:39:38,440 --> 00:39:42,440
Speaker 2: here mostly because I don't like Virginia Tech, and I

784
00:39:42,600 --> 00:39:46,279
Speaker 2: like Syracuse just because I don't know. It seems like

785
00:39:46,320 --> 00:39:49,919
Speaker 2: their defense is taking a step forward against Army, and

786
00:39:50,920 --> 00:39:53,719
Speaker 2: I don't know. I was really impressed with what they

787
00:39:53,760 --> 00:39:56,320
Speaker 2: did last week on the road, but Noah Rondi gainst

788
00:39:56,360 --> 00:40:00,000
Speaker 2: in the second worries me a little bit. But ultimately

789
00:40:00,040 --> 00:40:02,120
Speaker 2: I think they're gonna play complete game against Army.

790
00:40:02,719 --> 00:40:06,879
Speaker 1: I've got TCU fairly comfortably OVERMU, I think. Oh, and yes,

791
00:40:07,000 --> 00:40:09,719
Speaker 1: as do I I think SMU is overmatched here. And

792
00:40:10,080 --> 00:40:13,840
Speaker 1: we can talk maybe on one of our bonus episodes

793
00:40:13,880 --> 00:40:16,400
Speaker 1: ever bowlers dot Com about some of the subtle differences

794
00:40:16,440 --> 00:40:19,920
Speaker 1: in the offensive footprint for TCU. I studied that as well,

795
00:40:20,440 --> 00:40:23,480
Speaker 1: but I think TCU's got them here. That's really the

796
00:40:23,480 --> 00:40:28,080
Speaker 1: only game I feel passionately about. You about the afternoon block.

797
00:40:28,600 --> 00:40:38,239
Speaker 1: Please afternoon Slate is also loaded. I really hope that

798
00:40:38,600 --> 00:40:44,160
Speaker 1: anybody isn't waiting around for a window of opportunity this week. No, no,

799
00:40:44,400 --> 00:40:46,440
Speaker 1: it's there. Put us. It seem like there is one.

800
00:40:46,520 --> 00:40:51,239
Speaker 1: Put up the away message and just hunker down. Put

801
00:40:51,320 --> 00:40:55,640
Speaker 1: up your favorite EMO lyrics, what have you wow? And

802
00:40:55,680 --> 00:40:56,319
Speaker 1: just hunkered down.

803
00:40:56,560 --> 00:40:59,160
Speaker 2: Make up date night on Friday. If your significant other

804
00:40:59,200 --> 00:41:01,040
Speaker 2: wants to hang out with you on saturday'll be like, look,

805
00:41:01,280 --> 00:41:04,719
Speaker 2: it's a pretty pack day. Let's do something Friday. Let's

806
00:41:04,719 --> 00:41:08,239
Speaker 2: get some fajitas, let's get a pie, Let's watch some

807
00:41:08,960 --> 00:41:10,759
Speaker 2: let's let's let's I don't know what is it called Max.

808
00:41:10,800 --> 00:41:12,240
Speaker 1: I was gonna say, HBO, let's.

809
00:41:12,040 --> 00:41:14,000
Speaker 2: Watch some Max. Not a sponsor, could be not a

810
00:41:14,000 --> 00:41:18,359
Speaker 2: sponsor could be and really really give effort to your

811
00:41:18,360 --> 00:41:19,480
Speaker 2: partner Friday night.

812
00:41:19,360 --> 00:41:23,360
Speaker 1: Because it's effort. Give effort.

813
00:41:24,239 --> 00:41:27,399
Speaker 2: That wasn't intentional, but life advice to Van. All Right,

814
00:41:27,440 --> 00:41:29,760
Speaker 2: make make Friday Night an HBO.

815
00:41:29,560 --> 00:41:32,440
Speaker 1: Night, three point thirty CBS. It's old miss at Bama.

816
00:41:33,360 --> 00:41:35,680
Speaker 1: Bama is a seven point home fair. We have a

817
00:41:35,719 --> 00:41:38,200
Speaker 1: lot to discuss with this game. We have a lot

818
00:41:38,239 --> 00:41:40,440
Speaker 1: to discuss. First off, Bama is going back to Jalen

819
00:41:40,480 --> 00:41:43,840
Speaker 1: Milroe at quarterback, so there's that it made that official. Also,

820
00:41:43,920 --> 00:41:45,680
Speaker 1: did you see the Lane Kiffin conspiracy?

821
00:41:46,840 --> 00:41:50,600
Speaker 2: Oh, that Kevin Steele isn't actually calling the defense for Alabama.

822
00:41:51,920 --> 00:41:55,320
Speaker 1: Lane Kiffen is asserting that the Alabama defense is actually

823
00:41:55,320 --> 00:41:58,640
Speaker 1: being called by Trevaris Robinson and not Kevin Steele. Quote.

824
00:41:58,640 --> 00:42:01,239
Speaker 1: We've been against Kevin a number of times, worked with

825
00:42:01,320 --> 00:42:03,800
Speaker 1: him at Alabama and against him at Auburn and LSU.

826
00:42:04,520 --> 00:42:07,319
Speaker 1: There seems like there's been a change there. I don't

827
00:42:07,320 --> 00:42:09,600
Speaker 1: know what happened after the Texas game, but our kais

828
00:42:09,719 --> 00:42:12,680
Speaker 1: watching the TV copy and schematically in this last game,

829
00:42:13,160 --> 00:42:16,280
Speaker 1: certainly seems like t Robbs calling the plays now on defense.

830
00:42:16,680 --> 00:42:18,960
Speaker 1: We played him before at South Carolina, so we're preparing

831
00:42:18,960 --> 00:42:21,200
Speaker 1: accordingly for him. On defense, he's done a good job too.

832
00:42:21,200 --> 00:42:23,120
Speaker 1: They've got really great players. Blah blah blah blah blah.

833
00:42:23,200 --> 00:42:25,000
Speaker 2: I's coach, corners coach.

834
00:42:25,080 --> 00:42:27,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, is this a weekend at Bernie's situation with Kevin

835
00:42:27,760 --> 00:42:30,799
Speaker 1: Steele where they're just like putting sunglasses on him and

836
00:42:30,800 --> 00:42:32,840
Speaker 1: propping them up and taking them to the booster events

837
00:42:32,920 --> 00:42:34,640
Speaker 1: or what's man TI.

838
00:42:37,320 --> 00:42:43,359
Speaker 2: I love that the lines just in society between authority

839
00:42:43,400 --> 00:42:48,000
Speaker 2: figures and message board posters are so blurred to the

840
00:42:48,000 --> 00:42:53,200
Speaker 2: point that Lane Kiffin, fully could be absolutely correct, would

841
00:42:53,239 --> 00:42:57,400
Speaker 2: know more than I would by ten percent. But I

842
00:42:57,440 --> 00:43:01,560
Speaker 2: love that he's out there with play calling conspiracies at

843
00:43:01,600 --> 00:43:03,959
Speaker 2: the podium ahead of the Alabama game.

844
00:43:04,320 --> 00:43:05,800
Speaker 1: It's wonderful, wonderful.

845
00:43:05,800 --> 00:43:09,960
Speaker 2: And you know what, Lane Kiffin has sources in Alabama

846
00:43:10,000 --> 00:43:13,520
Speaker 2: he might just know and is talking as if like, well,

847
00:43:13,520 --> 00:43:15,439
Speaker 2: it doesn't seem like it was like he just might

848
00:43:15,480 --> 00:43:18,680
Speaker 2: know an assistant equipment manager who's like, ah, I was

849
00:43:19,000 --> 00:43:20,960
Speaker 2: Kevin Steele. The microphone's not even on.

850
00:43:22,840 --> 00:43:25,280
Speaker 1: Oh man, This is a close game. Last year Bama

851
00:43:25,320 --> 00:43:28,359
Speaker 1: won it by six in Oxford. It was tied until

852
00:43:28,360 --> 00:43:31,120
Speaker 1: about eleven minutes left in the game, right so this

853
00:43:31,200 --> 00:43:34,160
Speaker 1: is very very close. I will cut straight to the chase.

854
00:43:34,760 --> 00:43:36,359
Speaker 1: I think All Miss has been very good this year.

855
00:43:37,640 --> 00:43:41,760
Speaker 1: I don't think it's a mirage. Jackson Dart has truly

856
00:43:41,840 --> 00:43:45,200
Speaker 1: improved in a dramatic way, notably in this game. Quinn

857
00:43:45,239 --> 00:43:47,960
Speaker 1: Shawn Judkins, the star running back, is hurt. I don't

858
00:43:47,960 --> 00:43:50,239
Speaker 1: know his status for the game. I have not seen

859
00:43:50,280 --> 00:43:53,560
Speaker 1: that at time of recording. Maybe that will change. Obviously

860
00:43:53,600 --> 00:43:57,080
Speaker 1: that matters here. It matters a great deal. How good

861
00:43:57,120 --> 00:43:59,160
Speaker 1: is Old Miss. I don't think they're as good as Texas,

862
00:43:59,560 --> 00:44:01,440
Speaker 1: but I also so don't think Alabama is as good

863
00:44:01,440 --> 00:44:04,680
Speaker 1: as we're used to Alabama being. I also think we

864
00:44:04,760 --> 00:44:08,040
Speaker 1: know a lot about Alabama. We've seen them against teams

865
00:44:08,160 --> 00:44:11,279
Speaker 1: now that we can use as a barometer, and what

866
00:44:11,280 --> 00:44:16,120
Speaker 1: we learned last week is that against good teams, against

867
00:44:16,120 --> 00:44:18,320
Speaker 1: bad teams, they're not good enough to realize solely on

868
00:44:18,440 --> 00:44:21,640
Speaker 1: Jas McClellan and Rude Williams, and I think that's a

869
00:44:21,640 --> 00:44:26,320
Speaker 1: big takeaway. That's a big takeaway. So that to me

870
00:44:26,480 --> 00:44:28,239
Speaker 1: is concerning. In a game like this where we know

871
00:44:29,120 --> 00:44:31,600
Speaker 1: Ole Miss has a lot back, it feels like they've

872
00:44:31,600 --> 00:44:34,839
Speaker 1: gotten better across the board. My hunch is to go

873
00:44:35,680 --> 00:44:38,120
Speaker 1: ole Miss plus the seven. I'm going with Alabama here.

874
00:44:39,000 --> 00:44:43,040
Speaker 2: I'm going with Alabama because if and this is a

875
00:44:43,040 --> 00:44:45,240
Speaker 2: big if, right, if I had wheels, I'd be a bicycle.

876
00:44:45,520 --> 00:44:49,920
Speaker 2: If Alabama had unimpressively taken care of business with Tyler Buckner,

877
00:44:50,040 --> 00:44:52,480
Speaker 2: with Tye Simpson, and probably taken pair of business with

878
00:44:52,560 --> 00:44:55,760
Speaker 2: Jalen Milroe as we now know, they win that game whatever,

879
00:44:55,800 --> 00:44:58,560
Speaker 2: twenty eight to seven, unimpressively took care of business against

880
00:44:58,680 --> 00:45:05,480
Speaker 2: USF if we would look at this line as unbelievable value.

881
00:45:06,200 --> 00:45:09,640
Speaker 2: And so I am not ready to shovel dirt on

882
00:45:09,760 --> 00:45:13,120
Speaker 2: Alabama quite yet. I still see this as value. I

883
00:45:13,160 --> 00:45:16,080
Speaker 2: still see this as a defense that will continue to

884
00:45:16,080 --> 00:45:18,400
Speaker 2: get better. There's some youth at key positions on it.

885
00:45:18,800 --> 00:45:21,080
Speaker 2: I do they think they're going to improve over the

886
00:45:21,080 --> 00:45:22,960
Speaker 2: course of the season. The thing that has to be

887
00:45:23,000 --> 00:45:25,279
Speaker 2: more concerned over than the Jalen Milroe thing is the

888
00:45:25,320 --> 00:45:27,399
Speaker 2: offensive line thing for Alabama.

889
00:45:27,480 --> 00:45:29,200
Speaker 1: The running game, the.

890
00:45:29,200 --> 00:45:33,080
Speaker 2: Running game, protecting the quarterback, counting on some youth upfront

891
00:45:33,080 --> 00:45:36,080
Speaker 2: that has been up and down. That's the worrisome thing

892
00:45:36,400 --> 00:45:39,680
Speaker 2: for me for Alabama. I'm not especially scared in this

893
00:45:39,800 --> 00:45:42,480
Speaker 2: moment of Ole Miss upfront with the number of changes,

894
00:45:42,480 --> 00:45:44,879
Speaker 2: I don't think their pressure rate is especially high early

895
00:45:44,960 --> 00:45:49,319
Speaker 2: on in this season. I'm going Withbama here. I think

896
00:45:49,360 --> 00:45:51,840
Speaker 2: they're gonna be up for this game at home. I

897
00:45:51,840 --> 00:45:54,480
Speaker 2: don't think ole Miss is bringing what the Texas defense

898
00:45:54,520 --> 00:45:57,399
Speaker 2: brought to the table in Tuscaloosa. So I just think

899
00:45:57,400 --> 00:46:01,880
Speaker 2: there's value here in single digit Alabama. And I'm going

900
00:46:01,920 --> 00:46:05,040
Speaker 2: to need to see more disappointment from Alabama before I

901
00:46:05,120 --> 00:46:09,800
Speaker 2: fully buy in on like an average ole Miss defense

902
00:46:10,000 --> 00:46:14,880
Speaker 2: maybe dictating this game. So I'm going and look, I

903
00:46:14,920 --> 00:46:17,520
Speaker 2: know ole Miss's defense is probably better than USFS, but

904
00:46:17,560 --> 00:46:20,280
Speaker 2: I'm still going to Alabama here just because of the value,

905
00:46:20,600 --> 00:46:23,080
Speaker 2: Just because of the value. I don't get if you're

906
00:46:23,200 --> 00:46:25,000
Speaker 2: if you think ole Miss can win this game in

907
00:46:25,040 --> 00:46:28,000
Speaker 2: Tuscaloosa one, I still think you're saying ole Miss is

908
00:46:28,040 --> 00:46:30,480
Speaker 2: probably a nine or ten win team, and I don't

909
00:46:30,480 --> 00:46:32,920
Speaker 2: know if that's what you believe, And you're saying Alabama's

910
00:46:32,960 --> 00:46:34,760
Speaker 2: like a seven and five, eight and four type team,

911
00:46:34,920 --> 00:46:35,600
Speaker 2: and I'm not there.

912
00:46:35,640 --> 00:46:37,960
Speaker 1: I'm not there with Bama, but I'm also not at

913
00:46:37,960 --> 00:46:39,360
Speaker 1: the point where I'm going to give him the benefit

914
00:46:39,400 --> 00:46:41,680
Speaker 1: of the doubt. Okay, at least not in the way

915
00:46:41,680 --> 00:46:44,000
Speaker 1: that I have in the past. I just think something

916
00:46:44,080 --> 00:46:47,839
Speaker 1: is different this year. It occurred to me watching all

917
00:46:47,840 --> 00:46:50,840
Speaker 1: three of Alabama's games so far that regardless of what

918
00:46:50,880 --> 00:46:53,759
Speaker 1: everyone says about Tommy Reese being there to coordinate the

919
00:46:53,760 --> 00:46:57,960
Speaker 1: Alabama offense, he's very much running the Notre Dame offense.

920
00:46:58,680 --> 00:47:01,200
Speaker 1: This is it's a Notre Dame offense, and I'm just

921
00:47:01,480 --> 00:47:07,399
Speaker 1: I'm imagining him rummaging through the drawers at the practice facility, like, well,

922
00:47:08,200 --> 00:47:08,759
Speaker 1: who is.

923
00:47:08,680 --> 00:47:12,000
Speaker 2: To say that if Kevin Steele isn't calling the Alabama defense,

924
00:47:12,000 --> 00:47:14,400
Speaker 2: that Tommy Reese isn't calling the Alabama offense.

925
00:47:14,400 --> 00:47:17,000
Speaker 1: Maybe Kevin Steel's calling the offense. I don't know, But

926
00:47:17,040 --> 00:47:22,200
Speaker 1: I'm just imagining Reese looking through the drawers, searching, like,

927
00:47:22,320 --> 00:47:24,440
Speaker 1: is there a tight end I can use somewhere? Is

928
00:47:24,480 --> 00:47:26,839
Speaker 1: there a Michael Mahyer on hand that I can throw

929
00:47:26,960 --> 00:47:31,680
Speaker 1: every pass to. That's probably what happens next. He needs

930
00:47:31,719 --> 00:47:35,200
Speaker 1: to find a Michael maher to avoid getting fired. I

931
00:47:35,280 --> 00:47:37,040
Speaker 1: just have not liked what I've seen so far, and

932
00:47:37,040 --> 00:47:40,680
Speaker 1: I agree with you on the offensive line, and I

933
00:47:40,719 --> 00:47:43,320
Speaker 1: don't know, I'm not given benefit the benefit of the

934
00:47:43,360 --> 00:47:45,799
Speaker 1: doubt to Alabama. I've got ole miss plus seven. I

935
00:47:45,800 --> 00:47:49,320
Speaker 1: think it's close. Okay. Next game three thirty on Fox,

936
00:47:49,440 --> 00:47:52,520
Speaker 1: Ucla at Utah, Utah favored by four and a half.

937
00:47:52,920 --> 00:47:55,719
Speaker 1: All indications are that Cam Rising is going to give

938
00:47:55,719 --> 00:47:55,960
Speaker 1: it a go.

939
00:47:56,960 --> 00:47:59,880
Speaker 2: Saw that it's not official at the time of our recording.

940
00:48:00,200 --> 00:48:02,680
Speaker 1: But what's what's the number? Four? Four and a half?

941
00:48:02,760 --> 00:48:06,279
Speaker 1: Four and a half? I have Utah here.

942
00:48:06,800 --> 00:48:09,759
Speaker 2: I have Utah here because I think playing in Salt

943
00:48:09,840 --> 00:48:12,520
Speaker 2: Lake City, playing at altitude tie, I think it's a

944
00:48:12,560 --> 00:48:14,920
Speaker 2: big deal. I always think it's a big deal. With

945
00:48:14,960 --> 00:48:18,400
Speaker 2: a true freshman starting quarterback for UCLA, a UCLA offense

946
00:48:18,400 --> 00:48:21,080
Speaker 2: and I think will be very good. But I think

947
00:48:21,120 --> 00:48:24,400
Speaker 2: it's just a different animal in Salt Lake City. I

948
00:48:24,440 --> 00:48:26,440
Speaker 2: don't love the Utah offense. I like them more with

949
00:48:26,520 --> 00:48:28,359
Speaker 2: Cam Rising, I like them a little less. In Cam

950
00:48:28,440 --> 00:48:31,560
Speaker 2: Rising's first game coming back from an ACL injury, but

951
00:48:32,480 --> 00:48:34,560
Speaker 2: I just think it's too difficult. I think it's a

952
00:48:34,600 --> 00:48:38,880
Speaker 2: mismatch the whatever what's his name, Carson Steel, the running

953
00:48:38,880 --> 00:48:43,520
Speaker 2: back transfer in Steel. There's a big Steel episode here.

954
00:48:45,760 --> 00:48:48,360
Speaker 2: I think he's going to struggle a bit against Utah,

955
00:48:48,400 --> 00:48:50,480
Speaker 2: and I think the UCLA offense will look a little

956
00:48:50,480 --> 00:48:54,239
Speaker 2: bit too disjointed and Utah wins this game twenty four

957
00:48:54,280 --> 00:48:54,880
Speaker 2: to seventeen.

958
00:48:55,040 --> 00:48:57,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, you silly won this one last year was at

959
00:48:57,560 --> 00:49:01,919
Speaker 1: home forty two thirty two, and that was after Chip

960
00:49:02,000 --> 00:49:04,680
Speaker 1: Kelly got hammered by Utah in his first three matchups

961
00:49:04,800 --> 00:49:08,280
Speaker 1: against Gottwaiting. I just got drilled. I'm kind of hoping

962
00:49:08,320 --> 00:49:11,960
Speaker 1: this line gets bigger. I'm kind of hoping that if

963
00:49:12,160 --> 00:49:17,040
Speaker 1: the Cam Rising thing becomes official as expected, that more

964
00:49:17,040 --> 00:49:18,680
Speaker 1: people are gonna want to bet Utah. And that's what

965
00:49:18,719 --> 00:49:21,480
Speaker 1: I'm going to take Ucla, I am. I'm worried they

966
00:49:21,480 --> 00:49:25,200
Speaker 1: don't have the line to play with Utah. I'm worried

967
00:49:25,200 --> 00:49:27,319
Speaker 1: about that because that's been a work in progress for

968
00:49:27,400 --> 00:49:31,239
Speaker 1: Chip Charles Ship Kelly Kelly. It's definitely gotten better, they've

969
00:49:31,239 --> 00:49:34,239
Speaker 1: gotten more physical, but I'm still pretty convinced they're not

970
00:49:34,719 --> 00:49:38,680
Speaker 1: nearly up to Utah caliber. And I am worried about

971
00:49:38,760 --> 00:49:41,759
Speaker 1: Dante more in his first Big Pac twelve road test

972
00:49:41,840 --> 00:49:49,120
Speaker 1: at altitude. But I think he's the real deal. I

973
00:49:49,160 --> 00:49:50,759
Speaker 1: think he's good. I think he's a real deal. I've

974
00:49:50,800 --> 00:49:55,799
Speaker 1: got Utah losing at home Ucla outright twenty eight, twenty four.

975
00:49:56,480 --> 00:49:58,399
Speaker 2: I'm going to give you one more shot. Ty, I'm

976
00:49:58,400 --> 00:50:01,960
Speaker 2: going to give you one more shot, one more chance.

977
00:50:02,000 --> 00:50:04,920
Speaker 2: True freshman quarterback at altitude against a good defense in

978
00:50:04,920 --> 00:50:05,760
Speaker 2: Salt Lake City.

979
00:50:05,600 --> 00:50:12,759
Speaker 1: Okay, UCLA twenty eight, twenty four I tried. Also three

980
00:50:12,880 --> 00:50:17,799
Speaker 1: thirty ESPN BYU at Kansas. Kansas favored by nine points.

981
00:50:18,160 --> 00:50:21,640
Speaker 1: Another fascinating matchup here. We've got contrasting styles. We've got

982
00:50:21,640 --> 00:50:24,800
Speaker 1: BYU three and oh. One of the most inefficient offenses

983
00:50:24,800 --> 00:50:28,160
Speaker 1: in America beat an SEC team last week, so good

984
00:50:28,200 --> 00:50:31,560
Speaker 1: for them. On the Kansas side of things, well, obviously,

985
00:50:31,600 --> 00:50:33,399
Speaker 1: this is one of the best offenses in America. We've

986
00:50:33,400 --> 00:50:37,719
Speaker 1: talked about that before. Defense, though for Kansas a bit

987
00:50:37,719 --> 00:50:40,480
Speaker 1: of an issue. I think safe to assume that pretty

988
00:50:40,520 --> 00:50:43,799
Speaker 1: much any game at Kansas is still winnable until the

989
00:50:43,840 --> 00:50:47,359
Speaker 1: defense really improves takes a big step forward. We can

990
00:50:47,440 --> 00:50:50,600
Speaker 1: just assume that nine points is a lot. Yeah, it

991
00:50:50,640 --> 00:50:51,000
Speaker 1: is a lot.

992
00:50:51,080 --> 00:50:54,400
Speaker 2: That was my reaction that if BYU struggles doing this

993
00:50:54,520 --> 00:50:56,920
Speaker 2: and Kansas struggles doing that, I just take the points.

994
00:50:57,760 --> 00:51:00,840
Speaker 1: Really interesting stat for BYU, though they are near the

995
00:51:00,840 --> 00:51:04,319
Speaker 1: bottom of the nation in number of offensive plays and

996
00:51:04,360 --> 00:51:07,759
Speaker 1: they play at a very very slow pace, but they

997
00:51:07,800 --> 00:51:10,240
Speaker 1: are tied for first in the Nation with fourteen drives

998
00:51:10,280 --> 00:51:14,080
Speaker 1: per game, which seems a little counterintuitive. The only way

999
00:51:14,120 --> 00:51:17,000
Speaker 1: that happens is with turnovers and defense. They're a plus

1000
00:51:17,080 --> 00:51:20,120
Speaker 1: four turnover margin. They're forcing teams to go three and

1001
00:51:20,160 --> 00:51:22,960
Speaker 1: out thirty nine percent of the time. They're better against

1002
00:51:22,960 --> 00:51:24,400
Speaker 1: the run than the past. They don't have much of

1003
00:51:24,400 --> 00:51:26,640
Speaker 1: a pass rush, which I think could come back to

1004
00:51:26,640 --> 00:51:34,239
Speaker 1: bite them here. I kind of like BYU to cover

1005
00:51:34,320 --> 00:51:38,279
Speaker 1: this spread. Okay, I'm worried about it a little bit.

1006
00:51:38,960 --> 00:51:40,799
Speaker 1: I think by this is going to annoy a lot

1007
00:51:40,840 --> 00:51:44,960
Speaker 1: of BYU fans. I apologize. I think BYU's offense in

1008
00:51:45,000 --> 00:51:48,520
Speaker 1: its present form wants to be Utah. They want to

1009
00:51:48,520 --> 00:51:51,960
Speaker 1: be Utah. They're not physical enough yet and they don't

1010
00:51:52,000 --> 00:51:53,520
Speaker 1: have a good enough running back to pull it off.

1011
00:51:53,560 --> 00:51:55,960
Speaker 1: But that's kind of the model. They've got a dink

1012
00:51:55,960 --> 00:51:58,960
Speaker 1: and dunker at quarterback. He's throwing a tight end a lot.

1013
00:51:59,200 --> 00:52:02,320
Speaker 1: It's not exploded. What we need to watch here is

1014
00:52:02,360 --> 00:52:05,920
Speaker 1: if they can get more efficient, because the Utah system,

1015
00:52:05,920 --> 00:52:07,960
Speaker 1: if that is the model, that system only works if

1016
00:52:07,960 --> 00:52:10,279
Speaker 1: you can be really efficient. If you're not, then it's

1017
00:52:10,320 --> 00:52:14,040
Speaker 1: a pickaball offense. So I think I think this is

1018
00:52:14,080 --> 00:52:16,279
Speaker 1: a good game I think Kansas is genuinely, very very

1019
00:52:16,280 --> 00:52:20,080
Speaker 1: good offense. Anything they could score on anyone. I've been

1020
00:52:20,120 --> 00:52:24,680
Speaker 1: tinkering with my spreadsheet a lot, and I'm gonna eventually

1021
00:52:24,719 --> 00:52:27,680
Speaker 1: try to release that to the Patreon folks, hopefully within

1022
00:52:27,719 --> 00:52:29,880
Speaker 1: the next couple of weeks. I've got this line somewhere

1023
00:52:29,880 --> 00:52:32,239
Speaker 1: around four and a half in favor of Kansas, So

1024
00:52:32,320 --> 00:52:35,400
Speaker 1: I think they win here, but I don't know. I

1025
00:52:36,360 --> 00:52:40,080
Speaker 1: twenty seven to twenty one BYU keeps it close and

1026
00:52:40,080 --> 00:52:41,320
Speaker 1: covers same.

1027
00:52:41,120 --> 00:52:44,640
Speaker 2: What's tied with Nevada, and I like to forgive whatever

1028
00:52:44,719 --> 00:52:45,520
Speaker 2: happens in Reno.

1029
00:52:46,360 --> 00:52:47,360
Speaker 1: It's an awful place.

1030
00:52:48,960 --> 00:52:52,040
Speaker 2: Maybe the people are great. I've come across nice people

1031
00:52:52,040 --> 00:52:54,399
Speaker 2: that live in Reno. I'm related to people that live

1032
00:52:54,400 --> 00:52:57,480
Speaker 2: in Reno. But just in terms of Reno as all,

1033
00:52:57,640 --> 00:53:05,480
Speaker 2: Reno is awful. Reno's pretty all. Yeah, not anymore. I'm

1034
00:53:05,480 --> 00:53:08,520
Speaker 2: willing to forgive being tied ten all at Nevada. Uh,

1035
00:53:08,800 --> 00:53:11,799
Speaker 2: it's strange place. I'm won't be white you here.

1036
00:53:11,800 --> 00:53:14,280
Speaker 1: Still a few other games here, A few quick mentions.

1037
00:53:14,360 --> 00:53:15,960
Speaker 1: Let me know if you've got a read on any

1038
00:53:15,960 --> 00:53:19,840
Speaker 1: of these four pm fs. One Oklahoma State at Iowas

1039
00:53:19,840 --> 00:53:22,680
Speaker 1: Iowa State favored by three and a half. Oh okay,

1040
00:53:22,760 --> 00:53:25,560
Speaker 1: I looked at this game and just moved on. Yeah,

1041
00:53:25,600 --> 00:53:27,719
Speaker 1: I'm Oklahoma State here, I'm not.

1042
00:53:28,000 --> 00:53:30,279
Speaker 2: I'm will with Iowa State, even though it seems the

1043
00:53:30,360 --> 00:53:33,200
Speaker 2: numbers would indicate that Oklahoma State might be barely better.

1044
00:53:33,239 --> 00:53:35,640
Speaker 2: But if you're talking about shakey quarterback play against a

1045
00:53:35,680 --> 00:53:40,600
Speaker 2: good defense at home at six three, Iowa State, sure

1046
00:53:41,200 --> 00:53:41,920
Speaker 2: that covers it.

1047
00:53:42,320 --> 00:53:45,719
Speaker 1: Three point thirty, it's Texas Tech minus six. Now at

1048
00:53:45,719 --> 00:53:51,120
Speaker 1: West Virginia. We've also got at three thirty Maryland minus

1049
00:53:51,200 --> 00:53:54,880
Speaker 1: seven and a half at Michigan State. Also at three thirty,

1050
00:53:54,920 --> 00:53:59,040
Speaker 1: Boston College traveling to Louisville. Love the one it is

1051
00:53:59,080 --> 00:54:02,600
Speaker 1: fourteen and and on the c dub at six point thirty,

1052
00:54:02,600 --> 00:54:06,719
Speaker 1: it's Georgia Tech at wake Forest. Yes, what else we

1053
00:54:06,760 --> 00:54:10,920
Speaker 1: got here? Oh? SEC Network UTSA at Cincinnati or Tennessee.

1054
00:54:10,920 --> 00:54:14,440
Speaker 1: Excuse me, that'd be crazy Cincinnati with a double header.

1055
00:54:14,640 --> 00:54:17,360
Speaker 1: I think there's a chance UTSA gets annihilated by Tennessee.

1056
00:54:17,920 --> 00:54:20,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, Frank Harris is day to day. The last I.

1057
00:54:20,520 --> 00:54:24,000
Speaker 1: Saw Tennessee is I'm in on Tennessee. I like Georgia

1058
00:54:24,040 --> 00:54:28,120
Speaker 1: Tech outright against wake Forest? Who interesting? Okay? Yeah, I

1059
00:54:28,600 --> 00:54:30,920
Speaker 1: think Michigan State's probably done though. There's just a lot

1060
00:54:30,920 --> 00:54:33,600
Speaker 1: going on there. I don't I can't. I can't take

1061
00:54:33,640 --> 00:54:36,000
Speaker 1: them against anybody really right now, especially a team like

1062
00:54:36,040 --> 00:54:39,040
Speaker 1: Maryland that's got an offense. I like Texas Tech. I

1063
00:54:39,080 --> 00:54:41,080
Speaker 1: think it's a tough spot for West Virginia off the

1064
00:54:41,080 --> 00:54:45,320
Speaker 1: big home win, possible let down there. I guess We'lluisville

1065
00:54:45,320 --> 00:54:47,239
Speaker 1: against Boston College. I don't really have a strong read,

1066
00:54:49,000 --> 00:54:51,200
Speaker 1: okay read on these games.

1067
00:54:51,239 --> 00:54:53,920
Speaker 2: I like Texas Tech against West Virginia on the road

1068
00:54:54,200 --> 00:54:57,000
Speaker 2: just because I think there's a letdown quality to West

1069
00:54:57,080 --> 00:54:59,839
Speaker 2: Virginia after winning the brawl last week, and I think

1070
00:55:00,040 --> 00:55:04,239
Speaker 2: Exis Tech will slowly improve, you know, losing at Wyoming,

1071
00:55:04,440 --> 00:55:07,200
Speaker 2: losing the manner which they did to Oregon and heartbreaking fashion.

1072
00:55:07,320 --> 00:55:09,680
Speaker 2: I think they'll get their act together. So I'm still

1073
00:55:09,680 --> 00:55:11,480
Speaker 2: a believer in Texas Tech and Joey maguire.

1074
00:55:11,800 --> 00:55:13,880
Speaker 1: So give me the red raided.

1075
00:55:16,719 --> 00:55:19,640
Speaker 2: Maryland minus seven and a half, maybe Maryland minus anything

1076
00:55:19,680 --> 00:55:23,160
Speaker 2: against Michigan State. Lock of the week tie, Oh really, yes,

1077
00:55:25,080 --> 00:55:30,399
Speaker 2: luck of the week. I don't know what Michigan State

1078
00:55:30,520 --> 00:55:32,839
Speaker 2: right now is playing for. Mel Tucker, of course, made

1079
00:55:32,880 --> 00:55:36,560
Speaker 2: official his firing four cause and just the way that

1080
00:55:36,840 --> 00:55:42,080
Speaker 2: Washington schalacked them last week. I think there's a decent

1081
00:55:42,200 --> 00:55:44,120
Speaker 2: chance we're going to see a Michigan State season that

1082
00:55:44,200 --> 00:55:46,360
Speaker 2: sees the stands like we saw in that final season

1083
00:55:46,360 --> 00:55:48,799
Speaker 2: of Mark D'Antonio. Remember when like senior Day and there

1084
00:55:48,840 --> 00:55:50,960
Speaker 2: was like thirty eight people in the stand just like

1085
00:55:51,000 --> 00:55:53,879
Speaker 2: a just like a scattering. I don't mean to laugh,

1086
00:55:53,920 --> 00:55:58,080
Speaker 2: it's not their fault. No, that visual was sort of

1087
00:55:58,320 --> 00:56:01,600
Speaker 2: gallows humor worthy. So that's where I'm at with I think.

1088
00:56:01,640 --> 00:56:04,520
Speaker 2: And what month is it. It's September, Maryland, Yeah it is.

1089
00:56:04,640 --> 00:56:07,000
Speaker 2: I mean everything is adding up right. It's a beautiful

1090
00:56:07,040 --> 00:56:11,239
Speaker 2: elixir of Maryland Payne wake Forest. I have winning this

1091
00:56:11,280 --> 00:56:14,480
Speaker 2: game comfortably against Georgia Tech. Georgia Tech is fun to

1092
00:56:14,600 --> 00:56:19,640
Speaker 2: root four to me, I like Outrighty, I like outright Kelly.

1093
00:56:19,760 --> 00:56:22,799
Speaker 2: I think I think the Georgia Tech defense is feastable

1094
00:56:22,960 --> 00:56:26,120
Speaker 2: for wake right. Oh, it's feastable, but outright. Okay, we

1095
00:56:26,200 --> 00:56:28,759
Speaker 2: disagree there. I have Louisville over b S a big

1096
00:56:28,840 --> 00:56:30,719
Speaker 2: letdown game for Boston College going on the road.

1097
00:56:30,719 --> 00:56:33,440
Speaker 1: I think Louisville is just gonna run all over them, Okay.

1098
00:56:34,400 --> 00:56:41,600
Speaker 2: And Tennessee big Nebraska, Big Illinois, Big right, Duke, Big Miami,

1099
00:56:41,680 --> 00:56:44,200
Speaker 2: Big Wow in that window.

1100
00:56:43,880 --> 00:56:46,120
Speaker 1: Big Dano over there. Let's get to the night block,

1101
00:56:48,920 --> 00:56:53,640
Speaker 1: all right. Oregon State at Washington State seven pm on Fox.

1102
00:56:53,719 --> 00:56:58,719
Speaker 1: Oregon State favored by three. I am genuinely interested in

1103
00:56:58,760 --> 00:57:01,840
Speaker 1: this game. Same. I do not think we have a

1104
00:57:01,840 --> 00:57:05,600
Speaker 1: great sense for who Oregon State is at this point

1105
00:57:05,640 --> 00:57:09,160
Speaker 1: because DJU did not look good last week against San

1106
00:57:09,160 --> 00:57:12,600
Speaker 1: Diego State. They won that game twenty six to nine.

1107
00:57:13,480 --> 00:57:17,320
Speaker 1: I haven't really played anybody else to give us good data. Meanwhile,

1108
00:57:17,360 --> 00:57:19,960
Speaker 1: I think Wazoo, on the other side of things, has

1109
00:57:20,000 --> 00:57:23,560
Speaker 1: overperformed right now. They project out as like an eight

1110
00:57:23,600 --> 00:57:26,200
Speaker 1: and four team and nine to three team if they

1111
00:57:26,200 --> 00:57:28,600
Speaker 1: can steal a game like this away from Oregon State.

1112
00:57:28,960 --> 00:57:31,240
Speaker 1: I was really impressed by how they looked against Wisconsin.

1113
00:57:31,280 --> 00:57:33,480
Speaker 1: Of course, what do we know about Wisconsin? Right? We

1114
00:57:33,480 --> 00:57:35,760
Speaker 1: can go down this rabbit hole very very very deep

1115
00:57:35,800 --> 00:57:38,520
Speaker 1: if we want to. I think this game looks a

1116
00:57:38,520 --> 00:57:42,160
Speaker 1: lot like last year's game. Last year, Oregon State won

1117
00:57:42,280 --> 00:57:46,040
Speaker 1: twenty four to ten. Basically just sat on Washington State.

1118
00:57:46,040 --> 00:57:48,560
Speaker 1: They had the ball for ten more minutes. They ran

1119
00:57:48,640 --> 00:57:52,720
Speaker 1: for over two hundred yards, led by Damian Martinez this year.

1120
00:57:52,760 --> 00:57:55,640
Speaker 1: I think they have more pop with Dju at quarterback.

1121
00:57:56,320 --> 00:57:59,320
Speaker 1: Last year they won this game with Ben Golbernson, so

1122
00:58:00,000 --> 00:58:02,560
Speaker 1: bit of an upgrade there. I also don't like that

1123
00:58:02,600 --> 00:58:05,320
Speaker 1: the Wazoo offense is built entirely out of cam Ward.

1124
00:58:05,680 --> 00:58:08,720
Speaker 1: It is all cam Ward, all cam Ward everything. And

1125
00:58:08,760 --> 00:58:10,520
Speaker 1: I like cam Ward. I liked them more than you

1126
00:58:10,560 --> 00:58:13,120
Speaker 1: did last year. I don't like him this much. I

1127
00:58:13,160 --> 00:58:15,000
Speaker 1: just don't like him this much. I like Oregon State

1128
00:58:15,040 --> 00:58:17,960
Speaker 1: a lot here. I think it's something like thirty to seventeen.

1129
00:58:20,400 --> 00:58:23,000
Speaker 2: Okay, I just want to get this on the record

1130
00:58:23,000 --> 00:58:30,040
Speaker 2: because I think you're a silly, little delicate butterfly. What, yes, okay, really,

1131
00:58:30,440 --> 00:58:35,520
Speaker 2: here's what we know. Okay, a silly delicate butterfly. Yes,

1132
00:58:35,960 --> 00:58:41,840
Speaker 2: just fluttering about with your picks, flapping your wings. Here's

1133
00:58:41,880 --> 00:58:45,080
Speaker 2: what we know. Washington State is more tested. You've made

1134
00:58:45,240 --> 00:58:48,480
Speaker 2: reference to that Oregon State had some shaky quarterback play

1135
00:58:48,560 --> 00:58:52,920
Speaker 2: last week. As you referenced, Oregon State has played nobody right.

1136
00:58:53,520 --> 00:58:55,480
Speaker 2: Has Oregon State traveled? I don't have it in front

1137
00:58:55,520 --> 00:58:57,360
Speaker 2: of me. Has Oregon State been on the road this season?

1138
00:58:58,120 --> 00:58:58,520
Speaker 1: I don't know.

1139
00:58:59,000 --> 00:59:01,120
Speaker 2: Doesn't mean Oregon State. I'm gonna look it up in

1140
00:59:01,240 --> 00:59:04,280
Speaker 2: live time. Did they go to San Diego State? Oregon

1141
00:59:04,320 --> 00:59:07,680
Speaker 2: State has yes, they wouldn't know. They went to San

1142
00:59:07,800 --> 00:59:10,960
Speaker 2: Jose soon, had to open the season week one, and

1143
00:59:11,000 --> 00:59:13,400
Speaker 2: then they played UC Davis San Diego State, so they

1144
00:59:13,440 --> 00:59:18,120
Speaker 2: haven't been to a Power five stadium yet outside of

1145
00:59:18,360 --> 00:59:20,680
Speaker 2: Research Stadium, the new look restar Stamum, which actually looks

1146
00:59:20,720 --> 00:59:21,880
Speaker 2: really nice by the way, I don't know if you've

1147
00:59:21,880 --> 00:59:28,800
Speaker 2: seen it. The poloose at night and you bring occasionally,

1148
00:59:28,920 --> 00:59:32,400
Speaker 2: if not half and half shaky quarterback play against the

1149
00:59:32,480 --> 00:59:35,760
Speaker 2: Washington State team that has defended the run, is more tested,

1150
00:59:36,280 --> 00:59:40,160
Speaker 2: has a good or if not decent quarterback in cam Ward.

1151
00:59:40,320 --> 00:59:42,840
Speaker 2: I'm not super duper high on Washington State this year,

1152
00:59:43,120 --> 00:59:46,080
Speaker 2: but as dogs with a pretty good defense in a

1153
00:59:46,120 --> 00:59:51,200
Speaker 2: weird place to play at night, I don't know. Ty

1154
00:59:51,680 --> 00:59:54,600
Speaker 2: enter at your own risk with Oregon State. I'm going

1155
00:59:54,640 --> 00:59:57,959
Speaker 2: wazoo here. And you know what, just because I called

1156
00:59:58,000 --> 01:00:01,240
Speaker 2: you a delicate little butterflyer, get your lock of the

1157
01:00:01,240 --> 01:00:05,880
Speaker 2: weak finger ready, double barrelable, double barrel luck.

1158
01:00:05,720 --> 01:00:12,840
Speaker 1: Of the week, Silly little butterflies star tuttering around, just

1159
01:00:12,880 --> 01:00:14,680
Speaker 1: fluttering around.

1160
01:00:14,280 --> 01:00:18,120
Speaker 2: I have my Oregon duck scar tissue at Washington State

1161
01:00:18,280 --> 01:00:19,160
Speaker 2: to account for.

1162
01:00:19,800 --> 01:00:22,080
Speaker 1: At this pick, we are our true selves here on

1163
01:00:22,120 --> 01:00:22,479
Speaker 1: the show.

1164
01:00:22,720 --> 01:00:26,320
Speaker 2: I bring my own baggage, just like Coach Prime. And

1165
01:00:26,360 --> 01:00:29,920
Speaker 2: it's not Louis. It is duct tape all the way around.

1166
01:00:29,840 --> 01:00:33,800
Speaker 1: Eight pm FS one. It is UCF at Kansas State.

1167
01:00:34,760 --> 01:00:37,440
Speaker 1: I really liked UCF when I did the preview in August.

1168
01:00:37,880 --> 01:00:40,040
Speaker 1: I really did. They're three and oh now they went

1169
01:00:40,080 --> 01:00:42,000
Speaker 1: to Boise. That was an ugly game. Oh that was

1170
01:00:42,040 --> 01:00:45,160
Speaker 1: a terrible game. They haven't played anybody else right now.

1171
01:00:45,280 --> 01:00:48,240
Speaker 1: UCF looks like a top thirty defense. I don't buy

1172
01:00:48,240 --> 01:00:51,160
Speaker 1: that at all. Okay, buy it. We use the opponent

1173
01:00:51,160 --> 01:00:53,720
Speaker 1: adjusted stuff a lot here to try and understand who's

1174
01:00:53,760 --> 01:00:57,520
Speaker 1: good who isn't good. It's week four most of the time,

1175
01:00:57,840 --> 01:01:00,280
Speaker 1: even those metrics aren't good enough, aren't wise enough to

1176
01:01:00,280 --> 01:01:02,680
Speaker 1: know who actually is good. And I just think that

1177
01:01:02,800 --> 01:01:05,080
Speaker 1: KSE State's going to score. I don't buy what I'm

1178
01:01:05,120 --> 01:01:07,000
Speaker 1: seeing from those numbers. I think that is a bit

1179
01:01:07,040 --> 01:01:07,600
Speaker 1: of a mirage.

1180
01:01:07,640 --> 01:01:10,560
Speaker 2: Actually, I'm taking k State. I'm taking k State backup

1181
01:01:10,640 --> 01:01:14,360
Speaker 2: quarterback in the Little Apple at nights even, And I

1182
01:01:14,360 --> 01:01:17,720
Speaker 2: think the way you actually get k State is probably

1183
01:01:17,800 --> 01:01:20,280
Speaker 2: as we saw last week through the air. Some of

1184
01:01:20,280 --> 01:01:22,520
Speaker 2: the new full time guys in the secondary aren't doing

1185
01:01:22,520 --> 01:01:24,360
Speaker 2: a ton for me. For k State, I just don't

1186
01:01:24,360 --> 01:01:28,760
Speaker 2: think UCF is that program. So thirty eight twenty four,

1187
01:01:29,200 --> 01:01:30,439
Speaker 2: is John Rice Plumbly out?

1188
01:01:30,680 --> 01:01:34,240
Speaker 1: Thirty eight thirty eight twenty four, he's out? Yeah, thirty

1189
01:01:34,280 --> 01:01:38,440
Speaker 1: eight twenty four kyse State wins. Okay, let's go to

1190
01:01:38,960 --> 01:01:44,960
Speaker 1: Texas and Baylor seven thirty ABC Texas minus fifteen at Baylor.

1191
01:01:46,880 --> 01:01:49,480
Speaker 1: Blake shape In I believe is still out for the Bears. Yes,

1192
01:01:50,440 --> 01:01:53,360
Speaker 1: which I can verify, but yeah, that's what I had seen. Yeah,

1193
01:01:53,400 --> 01:01:55,800
Speaker 1: which means another week of Sawyer Robertson.

1194
01:01:56,600 --> 01:01:58,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, not expected to play against Texas.

1195
01:01:58,520 --> 01:02:01,520
Speaker 1: Now, let me ask you this. Back in week two,

1196
01:02:01,600 --> 01:02:04,240
Speaker 1: you felt strongly that Baylor was going to cover against Utah.

1197
01:02:04,520 --> 01:02:07,640
Speaker 1: But knowing what you know now two weeks removed from

1198
01:02:07,640 --> 01:02:10,240
Speaker 1: that game, are you gonna buy? Are you gonna sell

1199
01:02:10,440 --> 01:02:14,840
Speaker 1: Baylor's chances now against covering the spread? The latest line

1200
01:02:15,720 --> 01:02:17,120
Speaker 1: fifteen in favorite Texas.

1201
01:02:18,200 --> 01:02:20,880
Speaker 2: I think I'm gonna go Texas here, just because the

1202
01:02:20,960 --> 01:02:23,960
Speaker 2: combination of the speed with which they can score, as

1203
01:02:23,960 --> 01:02:26,040
Speaker 2: we saw last week ten all in the fourth quarter

1204
01:02:26,040 --> 01:02:28,400
Speaker 2: against Wyoming. It was a Longhore Network game, so we

1205
01:02:28,440 --> 01:02:30,920
Speaker 2: had to dip into some special URLs to watch it.

1206
01:02:31,880 --> 01:02:34,640
Speaker 2: I'm gonna go with Texas here to cover. I think

1207
01:02:34,840 --> 01:02:37,440
Speaker 2: they woke up a little bit last week. We can

1208
01:02:37,520 --> 01:02:39,680
Speaker 2: question them less on the road because of what they

1209
01:02:39,680 --> 01:02:42,520
Speaker 2: did in Tuscaloosa. Obviously, this was a close matchup against

1210
01:02:42,520 --> 01:02:44,920
Speaker 2: a not great Baylor team last season. I think it

1211
01:02:44,960 --> 01:02:47,400
Speaker 2: was a late comeback win for Texas. Of memory serves

1212
01:02:47,480 --> 01:02:51,120
Speaker 2: against the Bears last year in Austin. I'm gonna go

1213
01:02:51,200 --> 01:02:55,520
Speaker 2: with Texas reasonable with reasonable comfort against Baylor this year

1214
01:02:55,600 --> 01:02:58,120
Speaker 2: just because I just don't trust this this Baylor offense

1215
01:02:58,160 --> 01:03:00,600
Speaker 2: in this moment, especially against the des as good as

1216
01:03:00,640 --> 01:03:05,240
Speaker 2: Texas is so, I sort of hate these kinds of

1217
01:03:05,320 --> 01:03:09,360
Speaker 2: lines as favorites on the road, but you have to

1218
01:03:09,400 --> 01:03:11,840
Speaker 2: have reason to believe in Sawyer Robertson and the Baylor offense.

1219
01:03:11,840 --> 01:03:14,240
Speaker 1: And I haven't found it yet. And here's a crock

1220
01:03:14,320 --> 01:03:21,280
Speaker 1: potting party ready. I see Texas starting slowly and then

1221
01:03:21,320 --> 01:03:23,520
Speaker 1: before you know it, it's thirty five to ten. Yeah.

1222
01:03:24,000 --> 01:03:27,360
Speaker 1: I'm out on Baylor, fully out on Baylor. A couple

1223
01:03:27,400 --> 01:03:30,640
Speaker 1: other games here that I want to bring to your attention.

1224
01:03:30,760 --> 01:03:32,040
Speaker 1: Let me know if you've got to read on any

1225
01:03:32,080 --> 01:03:36,160
Speaker 1: of them. North Carolina minus seven and a half at Pitt.

1226
01:03:36,560 --> 01:03:40,520
Speaker 1: We've got Arkansas at LSU els favored by seventeen and

1227
01:03:40,520 --> 01:03:43,960
Speaker 1: a half. It's a big line. Seven thirty sec network.

1228
01:03:43,960 --> 01:03:47,520
Speaker 1: Mississippi State going to South Carolina. South Carolina now six

1229
01:03:47,560 --> 01:03:49,560
Speaker 1: and a half point favorite. That line has moved up.

1230
01:03:50,320 --> 01:03:53,760
Speaker 1: We've got Memphis at Missou missoo favor by five and

1231
01:03:53,800 --> 01:03:58,880
Speaker 1: a half. Also Minnesota minus twelve at Northwestern and Arizona

1232
01:03:59,000 --> 01:04:02,520
Speaker 1: minus eleven and a half. I've had Stanford dan all right.

1233
01:04:02,360 --> 01:04:06,240
Speaker 2: So I have North Carolina comfortably against Pitt. We might

1234
01:04:06,280 --> 01:04:09,600
Speaker 2: look back on Week four as a wonderful time in

1235
01:04:09,600 --> 01:04:12,000
Speaker 2: which you could give only seven and a half points

1236
01:04:12,000 --> 01:04:14,880
Speaker 2: against Pitt. And North Carolina has a bye week, so

1237
01:04:14,920 --> 01:04:17,880
Speaker 2: that's not a look ahead spot by any stretch. And

1238
01:04:17,920 --> 01:04:21,040
Speaker 2: then I have LSU big against Arkansas just because I

1239
01:04:21,040 --> 01:04:24,680
Speaker 2: think they're gonna overwhelm the Hog offensive line. South Carolina

1240
01:04:24,720 --> 01:04:27,760
Speaker 2: comfortable against Mississippi State, even though I don't love South

1241
01:04:27,800 --> 01:04:29,880
Speaker 2: Carolina upfront on either side of the ball. I don't

1242
01:04:29,880 --> 01:04:33,360
Speaker 2: think Mississippi State is the team to take advantage. Memphis

1243
01:04:33,400 --> 01:04:37,280
Speaker 2: against Missoo. Letdown spot for Miszoo and Memphis really hasn't

1244
01:04:37,320 --> 01:04:40,320
Speaker 2: played super well and their schedule hasn't been incredible, but

1245
01:04:40,360 --> 01:04:42,440
Speaker 2: I think they match up well. I think that the

1246
01:04:42,480 --> 01:04:45,880
Speaker 2: Memphis defense, I agree, will make Brady Cook feel a

1247
01:04:45,920 --> 01:04:48,760
Speaker 2: little bit normal. I think after if Miszoo had lost

1248
01:04:48,840 --> 01:04:50,960
Speaker 2: last week, maybe that's a three and a half four

1249
01:04:51,040 --> 01:04:53,080
Speaker 2: and a half point spread. And look, obviously all these

1250
01:04:53,120 --> 01:04:56,600
Speaker 2: things change it. But yeah, I like Memphis, maybe even outright.

1251
01:04:56,640 --> 01:04:58,960
Speaker 2: I think it's in Saint Louis. Ye want to say

1252
01:04:58,960 --> 01:04:59,880
Speaker 2: it's a neutral sider.

1253
01:05:00,040 --> 01:05:02,120
Speaker 1: And here's the other thing. Brady Cook is questionable for

1254
01:05:02,200 --> 01:05:04,919
Speaker 1: the game with a knee injury. Yep. And I think

1255
01:05:05,640 --> 01:05:09,600
Speaker 1: a prime letdown opportunity, as you said, kind of tough

1256
01:05:09,640 --> 01:05:13,000
Speaker 1: to get up after winning a sixty one yarder, winning

1257
01:05:13,240 --> 01:05:15,280
Speaker 1: a game on a sixty one yarder at the gun,

1258
01:05:16,440 --> 01:05:18,760
Speaker 1: and so there's a good chance Sam Horn plays, and

1259
01:05:18,800 --> 01:05:21,280
Speaker 1: he's a better quarterback anyway. I think Miszoo fans will

1260
01:05:21,400 --> 01:05:23,480
Speaker 1: screaming that since.

1261
01:05:24,040 --> 01:05:25,800
Speaker 2: We've seen him a little bit and Brady Cooked just

1262
01:05:25,840 --> 01:05:29,640
Speaker 2: three hundred and fifty yards against the reigning Big twelve champ.

1263
01:05:29,680 --> 01:05:32,680
Speaker 1: Oh, listen, I got you, I hear you. I don't disagree.

1264
01:05:33,360 --> 01:05:37,760
Speaker 1: I have Miszoo minus six on my sheet, Okay, I'm

1265
01:05:37,760 --> 01:05:39,560
Speaker 1: going Memphis plus the points. I think it's a good

1266
01:05:39,560 --> 01:05:42,080
Speaker 1: situation for Memphis as well. Memphis is a good team.

1267
01:05:42,640 --> 01:05:45,640
Speaker 2: I hope so, because they've sort of floated in the

1268
01:05:45,680 --> 01:05:49,480
Speaker 2: background for too long after the Justin Fwente and Mike

1269
01:05:49,520 --> 01:05:53,760
Speaker 2: Norvel times. Minnesota minus twelve. I think that's a reasonable

1270
01:05:53,840 --> 01:05:55,680
Speaker 2: enough pick, just because I think they should be able

1271
01:05:55,680 --> 01:06:00,320
Speaker 2: to run all over Northwestern Arizona big against Stanford, who

1272
01:06:00,360 --> 01:06:04,040
Speaker 2: is just not that good at American football right now.

1273
01:06:04,880 --> 01:06:08,640
Speaker 1: I'm with you on North Carolina. I think they win comfortably.

1274
01:06:08,920 --> 01:06:13,160
Speaker 1: I like LSU rather comfortably. I think they're on a

1275
01:06:13,200 --> 01:06:16,120
Speaker 1: mission after that Florida State loss. I also think you're

1276
01:06:16,120 --> 01:06:18,120
Speaker 1: gonna need more than kJ Jefferson to beat him at home.

1277
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Speaker 1: Someone LSU. I've got South Carolina lock of the week,

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Speaker 1: Wow of the week. Yeah, I'm fully out on Mississippi

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Speaker 1: State's offense, and we know at a minimum, I'm with

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Speaker 1: you on the line play on the South Carolina front,

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01:06:33,560 --> 01:06:35,320
Speaker 1: but we know at a minimum they're gonna play hard,

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Speaker 1: and Spencer Rattler is good enough to keep it interesting

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01:06:38,560 --> 01:06:42,680
Speaker 1: against most of the teams he'll play. And I just

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01:06:42,680 --> 01:06:44,400
Speaker 1: feel like they've gotten more to play for here. I

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01:06:44,440 --> 01:06:46,520
Speaker 1: did like this line a lot more when I grabbed

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Speaker 1: it on Monday at four and a half. Okay, but

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Speaker 1: I still like South Carolina to win this game, you know,

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01:06:53,240 --> 01:06:56,520
Speaker 1: outright and cover that spread. I said, Memphis, I'm with

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Speaker 1: you on Minnesota. I also have Arizona. We'll talk about

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Speaker 1: that one here momentarily.

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Speaker 2: Can I tell you my favorite thing that I learned

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Speaker 2: this week about LSU football? Sure, there was some sort

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01:07:06,800 --> 01:07:08,880
Speaker 2: of ESPN graphic that I don't know if you saw

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01:07:08,920 --> 01:07:12,080
Speaker 2: this that had like mel Kiper's top seven receivers in

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Speaker 2: the twenty twenty four drafts or something, and it was

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Speaker 2: like your usual suspects of Marvin Harrison Junior here and

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Speaker 2: blah blah blah, and number five or six or seven

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Speaker 2: was Hayden Neighbors for Alabama. Okay, obviously intended to be

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Speaker 2: maleik neighbors, Hayden neighbors. Hayden neighbors spelled I think in

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Speaker 2: the correct way any igh way, a walk on receiver

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Speaker 2: for Alabama who hasn't played some graphics in turn got

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Speaker 2: the list that included or somebody told him out loud

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Speaker 2: or her out loud neighbors, and they went and found

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Speaker 2: Hayden Neighbors for Alabama instead of beautiful.

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Speaker 1: Yeah it was great. USC favored by thirty five at

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Speaker 1: Arizona State at nine thirty and the packed ball after dark.

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Speaker 1: It's gonna be real ugly. Yeah, yeah, I don't have

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01:07:56,800 --> 01:08:00,000
Speaker 1: a reason to take it Arizona State. Somebody please see.

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Speaker 2: And be careful what you say. I don't need you

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Speaker 2: being suspended by Lincoln Riley. Anything untoward you say about USC,

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Speaker 2: so really proceed with caution. They're very sensitive over there

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Speaker 2: at USC.

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Speaker 1: Cal is a twenty one point dog against Washington. I'm

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01:08:17,600 --> 01:08:22,559
Speaker 1: on COL. But Sam Jackson finally played for a full

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01:08:22,600 --> 01:08:25,960
Speaker 1: game last week against Cal or with Cal for COL

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01:08:26,320 --> 01:08:30,479
Speaker 1: against their opponent, and showed all the flashes that make

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Speaker 1: people excited and all of the warts that make him

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01:08:33,280 --> 01:08:35,920
Speaker 1: a first time starting quarterback. He showed all of that.

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Speaker 1: So I think they can keep it interesting against Washington.

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Speaker 2: You think in Seattle at night, this is what an

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01:08:43,880 --> 01:08:48,640
Speaker 2: after darkish game, right, tenth third Eastern after dark? But

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Speaker 2: that's your selling point, is Sam Jackson is interesting?

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01:08:52,000 --> 01:08:54,360
Speaker 1: I just want to pick Sam Jackson the fifth. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: hold on your butts.

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Speaker 2: What is Washington half the week after, do they have

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Speaker 2: anybody significant a look ahead spot?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, the week after califoun Arizona is the mighty Arizona Wildcats.

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01:09:06,880 --> 01:09:09,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, that was a game they struggled with last year, right.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I think Arizona would be the play next

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01:09:11,600 --> 01:09:15,280
Speaker 1: week in week five because Oregon is on deck for Washington. Yeah,

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01:09:15,280 --> 01:09:17,320
Speaker 1: I guess the only thing you could say about this

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01:09:17,720 --> 01:09:21,400
Speaker 1: matchup it's at night. Whatever, jump out to a comfortable

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01:09:21,479 --> 01:09:24,400
Speaker 1: enough lead and Cal gets a backdoor cover. I just

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01:09:25,160 --> 01:09:26,000
Speaker 1: I don't see Washington.

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01:09:26,040 --> 01:09:28,280
Speaker 2: I think is down a starting corner or a corner,

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01:09:28,280 --> 01:09:30,600
Speaker 2: and I think they're starting center as well. I just

1337
01:09:30,640 --> 01:09:33,360
Speaker 2: don't think Cal and Cal's pass defense and pass rush

1338
01:09:33,640 --> 01:09:34,839
Speaker 2: is the team to take advantage.

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01:09:34,880 --> 01:09:35,840
Speaker 1: So I don't know.

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01:09:35,880 --> 01:09:38,920
Speaker 2: Washington's been taking care of business in unique ways, so

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01:09:38,960 --> 01:09:40,679
Speaker 2: I think Washington's gonna win this one big.

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01:09:40,760 --> 01:09:43,840
Speaker 1: On Friday, it's Wisconsin minus six at Purdue, NC State

1343
01:09:43,920 --> 01:09:47,000
Speaker 1: minus nine at Virginia, Boise State minus six and a half.

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01:09:47,120 --> 01:09:49,519
Speaker 1: In San Diego State, they also got air Force and

1345
01:09:49,640 --> 01:09:51,760
Speaker 1: San Jose State. Don't know if you got a lean there,

1346
01:09:51,800 --> 01:09:56,120
Speaker 1: I'm not crazy about Wisconsin. I'd probably go Purdue plus

1347
01:09:56,160 --> 01:09:58,120
Speaker 1: the points. That's my only lean hold on.

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01:09:58,439 --> 01:10:01,240
Speaker 2: How many straight games has wiscon and beaten Perdue.

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01:10:01,280 --> 01:10:04,080
Speaker 1: I don't care. You don't care care Wisconsin? No, I'm

1350
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Speaker 1: not I'm not great.

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01:10:04,760 --> 01:10:05,959
Speaker 2: Are you crazy about Purdue?

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01:10:06,000 --> 01:10:09,400
Speaker 1: No? Okay?

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01:10:09,479 --> 01:10:11,519
Speaker 2: The full games list, and I would take Purdue plus

1354
01:10:11,520 --> 01:10:15,280
Speaker 2: the points. The year was two thousand and three, two

1355
01:10:15,320 --> 01:10:23,479
Speaker 2: thousand and three, so however many straight matchups four, five, six, nine, ten, eleven, twelve, thirteen, fourteen, fifteen, sixteen, seventeen,

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01:10:23,520 --> 01:10:25,720
Speaker 2: eighteen nineteen, so they only skipped it looks like in

1357
01:10:26,400 --> 01:10:27,599
Speaker 2: UH seven and eight.

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01:10:29,720 --> 01:10:32,200
Speaker 1: I don't know. I'm not crazy about Wisconsin, not into

1359
01:10:32,240 --> 01:10:35,559
Speaker 1: Purdue either, but Friday night game, I'm going Purdue.

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01:10:35,680 --> 01:10:39,120
Speaker 2: There's something very automatic whis consint wins with Purdue covers.

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01:10:39,560 --> 01:10:41,800
Speaker 1: Okay, have fun with that.

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01:10:41,800 --> 01:10:45,759
Speaker 2: That's all state, NC State over Virginia, Boise over San Diego,

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01:10:46,320 --> 01:10:50,320
Speaker 2: and Air Force potentially Big over San Jose State.

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Speaker 2: Quick favorite tie? Can you drop that big stanky riving

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Speaker 2: yearning Drummond Fife?

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01:11:27,000 --> 01:11:30,240
Speaker 1: Oh, here we go. Did you see that the Patriot

1378
01:11:30,280 --> 01:11:32,639
Speaker 1: League and ESPN re upped? I did? I saw it.

1379
01:11:33,880 --> 01:11:34,840
Speaker 1: You kind of throw us.

1380
01:11:34,840 --> 01:11:38,599
Speaker 2: A game, pat League, and throw us a game. I'll

1381
01:11:38,600 --> 01:11:40,599
Speaker 2: go to Hamilton twelve thirty.

1382
01:11:40,800 --> 01:11:44,080
Speaker 1: See Georgetown finally away from multi sport field on the

1383
01:11:44,160 --> 01:11:45,480
Speaker 1: road at Columbia.

1384
01:11:48,720 --> 01:11:50,840
Speaker 2: I think they're just too used to that crazy crowd.

1385
01:11:50,880 --> 01:11:55,240
Speaker 2: I'm going Columbia here. I'm going Chip Kelly. Stop stone

1386
01:11:55,280 --> 01:11:56,800
Speaker 2: Hill at Fordham.

1387
01:11:57,200 --> 01:11:58,240
Speaker 1: I gotta go Fordham right.

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01:11:58,320 --> 01:12:00,479
Speaker 2: I don't even know what stone Hill is. I know

1389
01:12:00,520 --> 01:12:04,919
Speaker 2: there's a stone Hill Barn. There's like a restaurant that's notable.

1390
01:12:05,240 --> 01:12:06,840
Speaker 2: I don't know if they're related. I don't know if

1391
01:12:06,880 --> 01:12:09,200
Speaker 2: the barn has a massive team of players. I'm going

1392
01:12:09,200 --> 01:12:12,400
Speaker 2: to forward him here big up there near Arthur Avenue.

1393
01:12:13,040 --> 01:12:17,640
Speaker 1: Let's go to Colgate at holy Cross Dan at two o'clock.

1394
01:12:17,840 --> 01:12:20,120
Speaker 2: Who got Holy Cross limb from limb?

1395
01:12:20,160 --> 01:12:24,000
Speaker 1: Next? Three point thirty Penn you Penn on the road

1396
01:12:24,120 --> 01:12:28,840
Speaker 1: at Bucknell. I'm gonna go Quakers here.

1397
01:12:29,520 --> 01:12:31,840
Speaker 2: If you dive deep into the numbers, you understand what

1398
01:12:31,880 --> 01:12:34,360
Speaker 2: they're able to do on the road in this specific scenario,

1399
01:12:34,400 --> 01:12:39,280
Speaker 2: in this kind of matchup, Tye Dartmouth hosting Lee High.

1400
01:12:39,360 --> 01:12:40,599
Speaker 2: Did we do that well?

1401
01:12:40,640 --> 01:12:42,240
Speaker 1: I wanted to do that one last because there was

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01:12:42,240 --> 01:12:45,800
Speaker 1: some tragic news about Dartmouth coach Buddy Tevens. Yeah, let's

1403
01:12:45,800 --> 01:12:48,639
Speaker 1: take the music down. Buddy Stevens died after a bike

1404
01:12:48,720 --> 01:12:53,080
Speaker 1: crash back in March. Obviously a sad moment for the team.

1405
01:12:53,320 --> 01:12:56,760
Speaker 1: They're gonna be holding a moment of silence before this

1406
01:12:56,880 --> 01:13:00,719
Speaker 1: Lehigh game. Sad stuff thoughts funny.

1407
01:13:00,760 --> 01:13:03,000
Speaker 2: I mean he's been all over, Buddy Tevens has been, Yeah,

1408
01:13:03,080 --> 01:13:05,200
Speaker 2: a notable college football guy for a long time.

1409
01:13:05,320 --> 01:13:07,040
Speaker 1: Gotta get Dartmouth right, Gotta go dark.

1410
01:13:06,960 --> 01:13:10,000
Speaker 2: Going Dartmouth for Buddy, and I have Lafayette big over Monmouth,

1411
01:13:10,240 --> 01:13:10,760
Speaker 2: as do I.

1412
01:13:11,640 --> 01:13:15,080
Speaker 1: We've got one final bit of house keeping. Dana dit

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Speaker 1: Tie versus the World, Steve Ti Versus the World, presented

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Speaker 1: like we're getting stronger each week. Okay, Doe has proven

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01:13:32,240 --> 01:13:35,040
Speaker 1: we're ready. We know who's good who's not good. South

1417
01:13:35,080 --> 01:13:38,120
Speaker 1: Carolina minus six and a half. You know that is

1418
01:13:38,200 --> 01:13:42,040
Speaker 1: my lock. I'm also on Oregon State because I'm just

1419
01:13:42,760 --> 01:13:44,439
Speaker 1: a fun little butterfly, which call.

1420
01:13:44,400 --> 01:13:47,800
Speaker 2: Me silly little butter Little butterfly, get a ring about.

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01:13:47,720 --> 01:13:50,960
Speaker 1: Oregon State minus three, give me Arizona minus eleven and

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01:13:51,000 --> 01:13:54,960
Speaker 1: a half, and give me Florida minus twenty eight at

1423
01:13:55,040 --> 01:13:59,280
Speaker 1: home against Charlotte. Those are my four big picks that

1424
01:13:59,360 --> 01:14:02,560
Speaker 1: have also got a silly little parlay. Uh oh, I

1425
01:14:02,680 --> 01:14:05,240
Speaker 1: am steered into the fact that I think Colorado is

1426
01:14:05,320 --> 01:14:06,240
Speaker 1: gonna get drilled.

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01:14:08,600 --> 01:14:13,360
Speaker 2: I'm so sorry. If you work at Fox and Colorado

1428
01:14:13,439 --> 01:14:15,360
Speaker 2: is unable to maintain this momentum.

1429
01:14:15,640 --> 01:14:18,000
Speaker 1: They don't have the game. It don't care well.

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01:14:18,080 --> 01:14:20,160
Speaker 2: They want to be at more Colorado games.

1431
01:14:21,360 --> 01:14:25,439
Speaker 1: Probably they probably do. We're calling this the bad news

1432
01:14:25,520 --> 01:14:29,920
Speaker 1: Buffalo's parlay. Wow, and it's all heavy Oregon. It is

1433
01:14:30,000 --> 01:14:32,600
Speaker 1: all in an organ. It is Oregon minus three and

1434
01:14:32,640 --> 01:14:35,439
Speaker 1: a half points in the first quarter. It is Oregon

1435
01:14:35,560 --> 01:14:39,400
Speaker 1: minus twenty three and a half points overall. It is

1436
01:14:39,560 --> 01:14:43,280
Speaker 1: Oregon over forty four and a half team points. It

1437
01:14:43,400 --> 01:14:47,920
Speaker 1: is Colorado under twenty eight to half points, and it

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01:14:48,080 --> 01:14:53,920
Speaker 1: is an odd an odd number of total points. Got

1439
01:14:54,000 --> 01:14:57,280
Speaker 1: to hit all five for the bad news Buffalo's parlay.

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01:14:57,760 --> 01:14:58,320
Speaker 1: I'll tell you this.

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01:14:59,000 --> 01:15:02,400
Speaker 2: I'll tell you this as reward if you get this parlay,

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01:15:02,439 --> 01:15:05,680
Speaker 2: if it all hits for you, I will buy you

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Speaker 2: a premium Oregon shirt. An Oregon you'll buy me your

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Speaker 2: very first I will buy it for you for this

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Speaker 2: much confidence coming through.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Orgon minus three and a half first quarter, Orgon

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01:15:15,439 --> 01:15:18,240
Speaker 1: over forty four and a half teen points, Orgon minus

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Speaker 1: twenty three and a half in the game, Colorado under

1449
01:15:20,200 --> 01:15:22,479
Speaker 1: twenty eight and a half, odd number of total points

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Speaker 1: because we're odd.

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Speaker 1: is a big week of games.

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Speaker 2: I am so excited, Ty, I am so excited for

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Speaker 2: I think I'm gonn hit on all cylinders here, Ty,

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