WEBVTT - Bengals Booth Podcast: Holly Jolly

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<v Speaker 1>Hi again everybody. I'm Dan Horde and thanks for downloading

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<v Speaker 1>The Bengals Booth Podcast. The have a hully jelly Christmas

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<v Speaker 1>edition as the Bengals give their fans the number one

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<v Speaker 1>gift on their wish list, a stunning win over the hated, despised,

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<v Speaker 1>buck always respected Pittsburgh Steelers. On Monday Night football. Coming up,

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<v Speaker 1>you'll hear radio replays, postgame comments, and in depth analysis

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<v Speaker 1>from Dave Lapham, and in this week's fun fact segment,

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<v Speaker 1>you'll get to know the person under the pads as

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<v Speaker 1>I go one on one with linebacker Josh Bines. The

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<v Speaker 1>Bengals Booth Podcast is presented by bud Light Seltzer. Refresh

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<v Speaker 1>the game, and here's a quick reminder that you can

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<v Speaker 1>since End of Year lists. I am a total sucker

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<v Speaker 1>for the various end of year lists that come out

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<v Speaker 1>in the final few weeks of December. Top ten movies,

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<v Speaker 1>even though I've rarely seen more than one or two

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<v Speaker 1>Top ten news stories. Even though this year most of

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<v Speaker 1>them are likely to be depressing top ten books. Even

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<v Speaker 1>though I've been reading all the light, we cannot see

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<v Speaker 1>a few pages a night before bed for at least

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<v Speaker 1>a month, and that book came out in twenty fourteen.

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<v Speaker 1>If I see an end of year list, I'm reading it,

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<v Speaker 1>even if I know very little of the content. I

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<v Speaker 1>should probably make a top ten list for why I

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<v Speaker 1>love lists. Now let's get to the game. It began

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<v Speaker 1>with a salute to the Radio City Roquets Christmas Spectacular

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<v Speaker 1>as in one two three kick, one two three kick.

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<v Speaker 1>Each team began with two three and outs on offense,

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<v Speaker 1>but Pittsburgh's third possession was even worse. Pittsburgh has it

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<v Speaker 1>first intent to the nineteen yard line. The exchange was fumbled,

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<v Speaker 1>the ball on the ground at the twenty. The Bengals

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<v Speaker 1>have started celebrating and they recover the Pittsburgh Steelers fumble.

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<v Speaker 1>Josh Bines at the bottom of the pile comes up

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<v Speaker 1>with a football that led to an Austin Cybered field

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<v Speaker 1>goal and a three nothing Cincinnati lead. Before the first

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<v Speaker 1>quarter was over, the Steelers coughed it up again. Roethlisberger

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<v Speaker 1>back to throw short pass over the middle, caught by

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<v Speaker 1>Juji Smith Schuster. The ball was popped away by Von Bell.

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<v Speaker 1>It's scooped up by the Bengals and returned to the twenty,

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<v Speaker 1>but they're saying it's an incomplete pass. After reviewing the play,

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<v Speaker 1>the receiver completed the process of a catch. As a result,

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<v Speaker 1>it is a catch in a foam role, as is

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<v Speaker 1>his custom. Juju Smith Schuster danced down the Bengals logo

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<v Speaker 1>and a TikTok video before the game, then got blown

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<v Speaker 1>up by Von Bell and fumbled on Primetime TV. Here's

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<v Speaker 1>the Bengal safety. We have a limless group, and man,

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<v Speaker 1>we stepped up to the place to night, Monday Night Football,

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<v Speaker 1>the biggest stage. We're out there and hit out. The

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<v Speaker 1>parking man was out there doing things we love at

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<v Speaker 1>the highest level and we're just playing for one another,

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<v Speaker 1>planning for the name went back your jersey, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>because guys come from different stories and they're just telling

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<v Speaker 1>the story to night and we're going out there and

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<v Speaker 1>making plays. Ryan Finley, making his first start of the

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<v Speaker 1>year at quarterback, turned the takeaway into points with two

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<v Speaker 1>third down pass completions to t Higgins that drove the

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<v Speaker 1>Bengals to the four yard line. Finley under center, takes

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<v Speaker 1>the snap, hands it off Geo trying to run wide

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<v Speaker 1>to the right. Little ship off. Yeah. He takes it

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<v Speaker 1>into the end zone before tossing the ball into the air.

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<v Speaker 1>Touchdown Cincinnati as the Bengals go up nine nothing pending

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<v Speaker 1>the extra point. Giovanni Bernard finished with twenty five carries

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<v Speaker 1>for eighty three yards, and that touchdown run and the

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<v Speaker 1>point after gave the Bengals a ten en lead. Surely

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<v Speaker 1>big Ben would strike back right wrong. Roethlisberger back to

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<v Speaker 1>throw fires apastit's intercept it picked off at the thirty

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<v Speaker 1>eight yard line. The Bengals are running it back high

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<v Speaker 1>stepping his way as McKenzie Alexander he got hit after

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<v Speaker 1>being out of bounds and now he got some pushing

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<v Speaker 1>and shoving in the Bengals bench area. But McKenzie Alexander

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<v Speaker 1>intercepts Big Ben and runs it into Steelers territory. There

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<v Speaker 1>was a fifteen yard penalty for a necessary roughness that

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<v Speaker 1>gave the Bengals the ball at the Pittsburgh twenty six

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<v Speaker 1>three plays later, they were in the end zone again.

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<v Speaker 1>Finley catches a shotgun snap. He's back to throw the

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<v Speaker 1>protection's good shot pass caught over the middle, Bernardo breaks

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<v Speaker 1>the tackle at the five, runs into the end zone,

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<v Speaker 1>and throws the ball away up in the air again,

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<v Speaker 1>touchdown Cincinnati and the Bengals lead the Steelers by sixteen points.

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<v Speaker 1>The extra point he made it seventeen nothing, and all

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<v Speaker 1>seventeen points were the result of takeaways by the Bengals defense.

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<v Speaker 1>Here's Ryan Finley. We preached the heck out of that

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<v Speaker 1>all week. Was just winning the turnover battle versus these guys.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know, if you get three takeaways on defense,

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<v Speaker 1>you know the offense owes it to you to win

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<v Speaker 1>night football game. So you know, just happy we could

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<v Speaker 1>do enough to get that defense to win, because they

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<v Speaker 1>service heck deserved it. It was seventeen nothing Bengals. At

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<v Speaker 1>the half they had seventeen points. Roethlisberger had nineteen yards.

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<v Speaker 1>But in the third quarter he finally looked like the

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<v Speaker 1>quarterback who's made life miserable for the Bengals for seventeen years.

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<v Speaker 1>First with a screen pass to Chase Claypool for thirty

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<v Speaker 1>seven yards, and then Ben's gonna float it deep down

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<v Speaker 1>field into the end zone touchdown Deyonte Johnson, and just

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<v Speaker 1>like that, Ben Roethlisberger and the Steelers come to life

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<v Speaker 1>a screen passed down the sideline for a thirty six

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<v Speaker 1>yard game, followed immediately by a touchdown pass to Deonte Johnson.

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<v Speaker 1>The next time the Steelers got the ball, they drove

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<v Speaker 1>to the Bengals seven before settling for a field goal

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<v Speaker 1>that cuts Cincinnati's lead down to seven points. The Bengals

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<v Speaker 1>failed to score in the third quarter for the seventh

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<v Speaker 1>consecutive game, but they started to drive late in the

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<v Speaker 1>third that reached the end zone early in the fourth.

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<v Speaker 1>Finley in the gun second down in two runs after

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<v Speaker 1>Faki to p Ran, He's to the fifteen to ten

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<v Speaker 1>middle of the field into the end zone, touchdown Ryan

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<v Speaker 1>Finlay as he runs the zone read to perfection. The

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<v Speaker 1>Steelers all converged on samaj p Ryan and Ryan Finlay

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<v Speaker 1>went untouched into the end zone for the Bengals score.

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<v Speaker 1>Finley is not known as a running quarterback, but finished

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<v Speaker 1>with forty seven yards on ten carries. Well, that helps

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<v Speaker 1>when you have a thirty yard touchdown and don't get touched,

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<v Speaker 1>So that helps with the average. But you know, it's

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<v Speaker 1>always been, you know, a part of my game. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>it's kind of using athleticism to get out of some stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know, it's it's not heavy what I do,

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<v Speaker 1>but I think it's it's something that I can definitely

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<v Speaker 1>do on occasion. And this was a game that called

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<v Speaker 1>for the touchdown play. Did you run that during the

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<v Speaker 1>week or was that just it was a concept you

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<v Speaker 1>guys have talked about or ru we had not ripped

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<v Speaker 1>that play. That was just Zach being you know, real

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<v Speaker 1>headsy and just kind of tagging it on there, and

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<v Speaker 1>you know why not. Up by two touchdowns in the fourth,

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<v Speaker 1>it looked like the Bengals were on the verge of

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<v Speaker 1>wrapping it up when they stopped the Steelers on fourth

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<v Speaker 1>and four with less than six minutes to go, but

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<v Speaker 1>Will Jackson was called for pass interference near the goal

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<v Speaker 1>line first and goal from the one. After the penalty

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<v Speaker 1>on Will Jackson five thirty four to go, the Steelers

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<v Speaker 1>a yard away from making it a seven point game.

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<v Speaker 1>They give it to Snell. He's into the end zone,

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<v Speaker 1>touchdown Pittsburgh. The lead was down to seven, and the

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<v Speaker 1>Bengals were only able to pick up one first down

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<v Speaker 1>on their next drive, punting the ball back to Pittsburgh

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<v Speaker 1>with two seventeen remaining from his own twenty four Roethlisberger

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<v Speaker 1>through incomplete to Smith Schuster, then incomplete to Johnson, then

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<v Speaker 1>incomplete to Claypool, making it fourth and ten with one

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<v Speaker 1>fifty six to go. The Bengal sending defenders up to

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<v Speaker 1>the line of scrimmage, showing blitz Jesse Bates playing deep

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<v Speaker 1>in the middle of the field. Roethlisberger back to throw

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<v Speaker 1>from the pocket his past two high incomplete coffinels Bam, bam,

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<v Speaker 1>how about that? Who would a fuck? That? Attack on

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<v Speaker 1>field goal by Cyberg with twelve seconds remaining made the

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<v Speaker 1>final score Cincinnati twenty seven, Pittsburgh seventeen. Here are Zach Taylor,

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<v Speaker 1>Ryan Finley, Von Bell and Giovanni Bernard on a memorable

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<v Speaker 1>Monday night. It's the resilion of the group. Has I've

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<v Speaker 1>ever been around, you know? They never stopped believing each other,

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<v Speaker 1>never stopped believing what we're asking to do. It showed

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<v Speaker 1>up on a huge stage tonight against divisional. Right, and

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<v Speaker 1>and again I just can't can't say enough how proud

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<v Speaker 1>I am of the coaches, the players, the staff, everybody

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<v Speaker 1>who's hunging there together. Here we are week week fifteen,

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<v Speaker 1>whatever it is, and um just what a great night

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<v Speaker 1>for those guys. You know, I'm obviously very happy, um,

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<v Speaker 1>but just happy for everyone involved. You know, just the

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<v Speaker 1>faces and the you know, the after the post game

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<v Speaker 1>locker room. Um, it's just you know, it's fun. We

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<v Speaker 1>haven't had too many post game locker rooms like that, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>you know as of recent and it's just fun. It's

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<v Speaker 1>always fun to get a win, and um, even better

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<v Speaker 1>beating the Steelers on Monday night. So just happy for

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<v Speaker 1>everyone involved. Really, it shows the world tonight. We played

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<v Speaker 1>with anybody. We played all phases of the game. We

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<v Speaker 1>played great team football, um uh, hand in hand football,

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<v Speaker 1>offs and defense, put them in position to make points

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<v Speaker 1>of plays, taking the ball away, just really have to

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<v Speaker 1>just let them loose, having fun, and then that's that's

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<v Speaker 1>one of my most complete games we played at the

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<v Speaker 1>highest level. So was gonna keep on building that, keep

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<v Speaker 1>going getting better to be able to beat a team

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<v Speaker 1>like that. We know they're a good team, they know

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<v Speaker 1>they're a good team. But you know, when you play

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<v Speaker 1>those divisional games, the records don't matter. It's about who

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<v Speaker 1>wants them more. And it just showed just the type

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<v Speaker 1>of mentality that we had going to the game. We

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<v Speaker 1>started off hot, you know, coming we started off hot,

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<v Speaker 1>come back after the second half, you know, we started

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<v Speaker 1>off so, but we continue to keep fighting. Man, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>just so thankful that I've been able to witness you know,

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<v Speaker 1>some of the guys make these plays, and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>just throughout this season, it's just been a tough year,

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<v Speaker 1>a tough road. But man, I'm just I'm just grateful

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<v Speaker 1>that I've been able to be a part of those

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<v Speaker 1>tough times, just because you know, when things like this happen,

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<v Speaker 1>it just feels that much sweeter. Now, time for postgame

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<v Speaker 1>analysis with my broadcast partner Dave Lapple. My point spread,

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<v Speaker 1>this is the Bengals biggest upset since you're playing days.

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<v Speaker 1>Back in nineteen eighty you were part of a Bengals

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<v Speaker 1>team that was a thirteen point underdog and beat the

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<v Speaker 1>Steelers in Pittsburgh seventeen sixteen tonight the angles of fourteen

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<v Speaker 1>point underdog and they beat Pittsburgh by ten. How did

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<v Speaker 1>they do it? Turnovers? And that was the secret to

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<v Speaker 1>beat in Pittsburgh anytime we beat them. I remember we

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<v Speaker 1>beat the Steelers another time handily, like thirty four to ten,

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<v Speaker 1>and they couldn't even execute a center quarterback exchange problem issue.

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<v Speaker 1>Mike Webster and Terry Brusch, two Hall of famers, couldn't

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<v Speaker 1>get the ball snapped. Wilson whitlerw was causing all kinds

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<v Speaker 1>of havoc in there when Ben fumbled Pouncy's snapping, thinking

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<v Speaker 1>two Pro bowlers, Man Carmer's kind of looking the same here.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, they're having issues with the simplest things. And

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<v Speaker 1>turnovers were huge in this football game. You go plus three,

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<v Speaker 1>you're gonna win ninety five ninety seven percent of the time,

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<v Speaker 1>There's no doubt about it. In the first quarter, Ben

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<v Speaker 1>Roethlisberger was four for ten from minus five yards. How

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<v Speaker 1>good question. I mean, he wasn't even sacked, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, it's it's it's amazing that they were just

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<v Speaker 1>just avocating. I mean, the Bengals do. The Bengals basically

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<v Speaker 1>beat Pittsburgh at their own game. They ran the football

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<v Speaker 1>when Pittsburgh in the heyday would run the ball right

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<v Speaker 1>down your throat and then play suffocating defense, and whenever

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<v Speaker 1>you made a mistake, they pounce on it and they

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<v Speaker 1>make you pay, and they make you pay dearly, and

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<v Speaker 1>then you know, you get all, you know out of sorts.

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<v Speaker 1>And you make another mistake and then they make you

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<v Speaker 1>pay even worse. And that's that's what the Bengals did

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<v Speaker 1>to them tonight. They ran the ball down their throat,

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<v Speaker 1>They played suffocating defense at times, and every mistake that

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<v Speaker 1>Pittsburgh made, the Bengals really capitalize them made and pay

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<v Speaker 1>dearly for it offensively forty one rushing attempts and thirteen

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<v Speaker 1>pass attempts. It's nice to say you're going to do

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<v Speaker 1>something like that going into a game against the Steelers,

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<v Speaker 1>but to actually pull it off effectively, I did not

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<v Speaker 1>see that coming. It's funny. I was. I figured, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>this is gonna have to be a dirty, grimy, bloody game,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, for the Bengals to have to be able

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<v Speaker 1>to compete. What I thought was as I was thinking

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<v Speaker 1>about the game this afternoon, had all day to think

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<v Speaker 1>about it, and and I'm like, all right, well, if the

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<v Speaker 1>Bengals can somehow incorporate a quarterback run package, maybe include

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<v Speaker 1>Hogan in it. Because Hogan had rushed for over one

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<v Speaker 1>hundred yards against the Bengals and he's averaging almost ten

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<v Speaker 1>yards to carry, you know, in his career, so you

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<v Speaker 1>know he can run the football a little bit and

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<v Speaker 1>he rushed for a touchdown against the Bengals, and I thought, well,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, maybe they'll do some kind of quarterback run

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<v Speaker 1>package kind of thing and and shrink the game, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>eat up the clock, get into the fourth quarter with

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<v Speaker 1>an opportunity to steal a football game. Was what I

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<v Speaker 1>was thinking. And you know, I said to my wife Lynns,

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<v Speaker 1>where as I was getting ready for the game, I said,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what if they can run it, and the

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<v Speaker 1>running backs, you know, rush for over one hundred and

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<v Speaker 1>the quarterback rushes for fifty or more, they got a

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<v Speaker 1>shot if they can you know, compress the game, eat

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<v Speaker 1>up the clock. You know, don't don't throw the ball

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<v Speaker 1>very much against this defensive front. I mean they're number

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<v Speaker 1>one in the league in sack sack differential, all that stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>You don't you don't want to get in second and

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<v Speaker 1>third and lungs against these guys and have to throw

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<v Speaker 1>the football. And so I was, you know, just thinking

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<v Speaker 1>along those lines, and be a son of a gun.

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<v Speaker 1>If Ryan Finley it doesn't turn into Lamar Finley. It

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<v Speaker 1>was crazy. He's out there doing zone reads and the

0:14:19.440 --> 0:14:23.520
<v Speaker 1>quarterback draw unbelievable design to run the jet. The jet

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<v Speaker 1>motion and the linebacker has to clear out of there

0:14:26.600 --> 0:14:29.840
<v Speaker 1>with him and just a design quarterback draw. And Ryan

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<v Speaker 1>Finley was saying that on his touchdown run, it wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>even anything they ran at practice. It was a run

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<v Speaker 1>play and Zach just put a tag on it, said,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, put a read on it at the end.

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<v Speaker 1>So all he did was look at high Smith. As

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<v Speaker 1>soon as you saw high Smith closing down the line

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<v Speaker 1>of Scramm pulled it out of there, walked into the

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<v Speaker 1>end zone untouched or to scored in one fingernail touch football.

0:14:50.480 --> 0:14:53.080
<v Speaker 1>Nobody laid anything on him. I mean, it was just incredible.

0:14:53.480 --> 0:14:55.400
<v Speaker 1>Got to give Zach a lot of credit for the

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<v Speaker 1>game plan, calling the game, improvising during the game, adjusting

0:14:59.480 --> 0:15:02.520
<v Speaker 1>during the game. He's been bombarded about that, where are

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<v Speaker 1>the adjustments? What are they doing when you hear things

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<v Speaker 1>like that that they made an adjustment like that as

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<v Speaker 1>he was calling the play, just put a little tag

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<v Speaker 1>on the thing. That's pretty strong. There are a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of defensive heroes in the game for the Bengals. Let's

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<v Speaker 1>start with Carl Lawson. He had a sack, He had

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<v Speaker 1>six quarterback hits. You've pointed out in the past that

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<v Speaker 1>villain Auava at his height, has a particular problem with

0:15:25.640 --> 0:15:29.600
<v Speaker 1>Carl Lawson. He does, you know, six eight and villain

0:15:29.640 --> 0:15:31.920
<v Speaker 1>Auava is a waiste bender. He's not a knee bender.

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<v Speaker 1>So when you're six to eight and you're you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the little teapot short and stout, you know, and just

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<v Speaker 1>bending over at the way instead of with the knees

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<v Speaker 1>when the little kids play. I mean, he's he's got

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<v Speaker 1>issues with that because then his shoulder pads are leaning forward.

0:15:47.840 --> 0:15:50.040
<v Speaker 1>Carl can you know, use his hands and pull some

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<v Speaker 1>moves on him, rip, swim, all those kind of things.

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<v Speaker 1>And Carl Lawson gives him fits he does, and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>villain Auava ends up kind of turning his older pads

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<v Speaker 1>toward the line of scrimmage parallel to the line of

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<v Speaker 1>scrimmage and then given a short edge. And Carl Lawson,

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<v Speaker 1>who's made him pay for that in the past, and

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<v Speaker 1>he was he was a thorn in Ben's side, There's

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<v Speaker 1>no doubt about it. I thought he gave very consistent pressure.

0:16:14.080 --> 0:16:16.960
<v Speaker 1>I thought Sam Harbard, Margus Hunt and a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>guys showed up in this football game for the Bengals

0:16:19.680 --> 0:16:22.080
<v Speaker 1>defensive front. They played as hard as they can play.

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<v Speaker 1>They definitely emptied the effort bucket for sure. The Bengals

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<v Speaker 1>also had ten pass deflections. I don't remember them ever

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<v Speaker 1>getting to double digits in that stat and it came

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<v Speaker 1>from every every level. You mentioned. Margus Hunt he knocked

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<v Speaker 1>one down at the line of scrimmage, George Evans had

0:16:37.800 --> 0:16:40.600
<v Speaker 1>when I think at the linebacker position, Darius Phillips had three,

0:16:40.720 --> 0:16:44.640
<v Speaker 1>Mackenzie Alexander had two. They were deflecting a ton of

0:16:44.720 --> 0:16:47.880
<v Speaker 1>Ben Roethlisberger's throws. Yeah, they did. William Jackson, you know,

0:16:47.960 --> 0:16:50.440
<v Speaker 1>got his hands and he should have had an interception. One.

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<v Speaker 1>He'll get a pass broken up, but I mean should

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<v Speaker 1>have been an interception, and then you know, a couple

0:16:54.920 --> 0:16:57.359
<v Speaker 1>of plays later he has the fourth down problem, the interference.

0:16:57.400 --> 0:16:59.720
<v Speaker 1>But Sam Hubbard got his hand on one as well,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, as well as Marcus so Um. They were

0:17:02.920 --> 0:17:06.040
<v Speaker 1>they were getting their hands on footballs and uh, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I think they were. They were. The coverage was outstanding

0:17:09.880 --> 0:17:12.280
<v Speaker 1>and for on and off during the course of the game.

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<v Speaker 1>They were really in Ben's head, I mean more so

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<v Speaker 1>than I've seen in a long time. It was. He

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<v Speaker 1>was definitely bothered by what they were doing. I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>sure that he was confused, but I think it was

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<v Speaker 1>like wow, I mean, there's just like fly paper. I mean,

0:17:25.680 --> 0:17:28.879
<v Speaker 1>they're suffocating us, man, They're smothering us down the football field.

0:17:29.000 --> 0:17:31.520
<v Speaker 1>I have nowhere to go with the football. And that's

0:17:31.600 --> 0:17:36.520
<v Speaker 1>that's that's not typical Steeler action there. I have no

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<v Speaker 1>idea what Mike Brown has been thinking about Zach Taylor's

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<v Speaker 1>long term future. But do you think if there was

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<v Speaker 1>any inkling of making a change, that his mind might

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<v Speaker 1>have been changed tonight? I mean, you look at it.

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<v Speaker 1>You look at a scenario like tonight against an organization

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<v Speaker 1>that is, you know, the the gold standard of professional football.

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<v Speaker 1>You've lost eleven in a row to him, it's on

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<v Speaker 1>national television. It could have been a total embarrassment. I

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<v Speaker 1>mean last last week's Monday night football game was an

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<v Speaker 1>instant classic. This one had the makings of being forgettable

0:18:17.200 --> 0:18:20.000
<v Speaker 1>immediately kind of football game. And for them to play

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<v Speaker 1>like they did, I think it does mean something to

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<v Speaker 1>Mike Brown on national television, and you know, in the

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<v Speaker 1>restroom at halftime, Steve Leapy was like, I can't believe this.

0:18:30.359 --> 0:18:32.359
<v Speaker 1>You know, that's why you don't bet on these games.

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<v Speaker 1>All my stuff, I have for I can't use. All

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<v Speaker 1>he had was Pittsburgh stuff in the second half of steven,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, and it's all understandable, but I mean everybody

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<v Speaker 1>was stunned. I mean all the media guys, national, local

0:18:43.520 --> 0:18:46.480
<v Speaker 1>or whatever there. Everybody was stunned. And I mean me too.

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<v Speaker 1>There's no way, but I thought the Cincinnati Bengal was

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<v Speaker 1>going to hang twenty seven points on the Pittsburgh Steelers

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<v Speaker 1>in this football game. I thought they won. It would

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<v Speaker 1>be like fourteen ten, seventeen, fourteen, you know, but it was.

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<v Speaker 1>It was a very very good football game that they

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<v Speaker 1>get short fields on some of those turnovers, took advantage

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<v Speaker 1>and get points out of it again kind of reverse

0:19:09.640 --> 0:19:12.960
<v Speaker 1>the flip the script on Pittsburgh. Pittsburgh makes you pay

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<v Speaker 1>for every turnover. They just make you pay. Dearly Bengals

0:19:16.240 --> 0:19:18.680
<v Speaker 1>did it to the Pittsburgh Steelers. And you know, there

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<v Speaker 1>was a lull there in the third quarter, Dan three

0:19:20.800 --> 0:19:22.440
<v Speaker 1>to three and outs. They go third and eight, three

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<v Speaker 1>straight possession like a little boy, now is there going

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<v Speaker 1>to be you know, enough time for Pittsburgh to make

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<v Speaker 1>the complete comeback. And then the Bengals, you know, snap

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<v Speaker 1>out of it and make plays and win the football

0:19:34.400 --> 0:19:37.359
<v Speaker 1>game going away, pretty pretty impressive. Well, they didn't want

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<v Speaker 1>to score in the third quarter, now, you know, the

0:19:39.200 --> 0:19:41.840
<v Speaker 1>Bengals don't like to do that. Yeah, that's right. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>you're right about that. It's it's just incredible. What what

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<v Speaker 1>what happens in the third quarter? It is, it's it's

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<v Speaker 1>just it's beyond mind boggling. I'll tell you though. When

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<v Speaker 1>Pittsburgh came out with the formation they came out with

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<v Speaker 1>and spread the field as far as they could with

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<v Speaker 1>two wide receivers lined up behind each other in like

0:19:58.240 --> 0:20:02.440
<v Speaker 1>double life formations, almost in front of each football team's bench. Boy,

0:20:02.480 --> 0:20:04.520
<v Speaker 1>that's a big adjustment and it worked. I mean, they

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<v Speaker 1>big play by Claypool and then Ben throws a touchdown

0:20:08.320 --> 0:20:10.240
<v Speaker 1>past the very next snap, and I'm thinking, oh boy,

0:20:10.760 --> 0:20:12.399
<v Speaker 1>I wonder what else they have up their sleep. But

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<v Speaker 1>that was something that you just you run at once,

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<v Speaker 1>and it wasn't really a gadget play, but it was

0:20:16.880 --> 0:20:19.600
<v Speaker 1>a different look formation. You can make quick adjustments to it.

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<v Speaker 1>But I thought for the most part, you know, you

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<v Speaker 1>hear all the time, oh the Bengals, man, you know,

0:20:25.040 --> 0:20:27.880
<v Speaker 1>they've had halftime leads. But then the other team adjusted

0:20:27.920 --> 0:20:31.040
<v Speaker 1>the Bengals never adjust well. I thought in this instance,

0:20:31.080 --> 0:20:34.440
<v Speaker 1>they adjusted to adjustments and the whole thing, the whole

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<v Speaker 1>thing panned out. Let's talk about the other side from

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<v Speaker 1>eleven and ozero to eleven and three and if you

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<v Speaker 1>go back to win number eleven, that was the Baltimore

0:20:44.359 --> 0:20:47.800
<v Speaker 1>game where I think it was twelve guys for Baltimore.

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<v Speaker 1>We're out with COVID, including seven Pro Bowlers. The Steelers

0:20:51.240 --> 0:20:54.520
<v Speaker 1>struggle to win that game. They haven't scored twenty points

0:20:54.560 --> 0:20:59.280
<v Speaker 1>now in any of their last four games. Are the

0:20:59.320 --> 0:21:03.120
<v Speaker 1>Steelers limping to the finish line? I mean, their their

0:21:03.160 --> 0:21:07.480
<v Speaker 1>offense looks so different, and everybody's realizing that they are

0:21:07.680 --> 0:21:10.479
<v Speaker 1>going to the short intermediate east and west stuff, and

0:21:10.520 --> 0:21:14.720
<v Speaker 1>they're aligning their coverages and and crowding. You know, they're

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<v Speaker 1>making Pittsburgh playing a closet and it's it's interesting to watch.

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<v Speaker 1>And I thought right away when Pittsburgh came out and

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<v Speaker 1>Ben rolled out and went deep, they were trying to

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<v Speaker 1>make a statement, Okay, this we're not doing that tonight.

0:21:25.359 --> 0:21:27.400
<v Speaker 1>You know, you're gonna have to make some adjustments here.

0:21:27.680 --> 0:21:30.280
<v Speaker 1>But Ben was not even close and the coverage was good,

0:21:30.280 --> 0:21:33.880
<v Speaker 1>so that wasn't a panic type scenario, and they did try,

0:21:35.080 --> 0:21:37.640
<v Speaker 1>not even a handful of deep balls through the rest

0:21:37.640 --> 0:21:41.000
<v Speaker 1>of the game. And uh lou and Umu was persistent

0:21:41.480 --> 0:21:43.639
<v Speaker 1>and staying with what he thought was going to be

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<v Speaker 1>the right the right kind of configuration the schematic for

0:21:46.800 --> 0:21:49.280
<v Speaker 1>the night, and it paid big, big dividends. Yeah, I

0:21:49.280 --> 0:21:53.160
<v Speaker 1>think they're there. They are limping and uh uh yeah,

0:21:53.359 --> 0:21:58.560
<v Speaker 1>it's they just offensively, it looks like they're really really

0:21:58.600 --> 0:22:01.800
<v Speaker 1>struggling to get it figured out. It really does. So

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<v Speaker 1>there's a guy known as Bengal Boy who always does

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<v Speaker 1>the great banner on the opposite side of the stadium

0:22:07.160 --> 0:22:11.960
<v Speaker 1>from our broadcast booth. The banner tonight says Panay for

0:22:12.160 --> 0:22:15.440
<v Speaker 1>your thoughts, a reference to Panay Sewell, the great offensive

0:22:15.440 --> 0:22:18.679
<v Speaker 1>line prospect out of Oregon. The great thing about this

0:22:18.800 --> 0:22:20.879
<v Speaker 1>victory is that it doesn't drop the Bengals in the

0:22:20.960 --> 0:22:24.560
<v Speaker 1>draft order. There's still third, the Jets falling from one

0:22:24.600 --> 0:22:27.800
<v Speaker 1>to two after they shocked the Rams on Sunday, an

0:22:27.800 --> 0:22:31.200
<v Speaker 1>Owen thirteen team beating a nine and four team. So

0:22:31.320 --> 0:22:33.920
<v Speaker 1>Jacksonville has the first pick, the Jets have the second pick,

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<v Speaker 1>the Bengals have the third. But now there's a chance

0:22:37.119 --> 0:22:39.720
<v Speaker 1>if the Bengals win again, that they would fall out

0:22:39.720 --> 0:22:44.919
<v Speaker 1>of the third spot. Carolina, Atlanta, Houston and Philadelphia have

0:22:45.040 --> 0:22:48.040
<v Speaker 1>four wins. The Bengals now three ten and one. Yeah,

0:22:48.119 --> 0:22:50.400
<v Speaker 1>that's what people are already. I've already gotten a bunch

0:22:50.440 --> 0:22:52.680
<v Speaker 1>of texts. They could go to number seven, they could

0:22:52.720 --> 0:22:54.600
<v Speaker 1>drop to number seven. What are they thinking? You know?

0:22:54.680 --> 0:22:58.280
<v Speaker 1>And it's like, well, you know whatever, you know, maybe

0:22:58.320 --> 0:23:01.080
<v Speaker 1>they can still get a good offensive lineman or a

0:23:01.119 --> 0:23:04.240
<v Speaker 1>defensive lineman or whatever the case may be with that

0:23:04.440 --> 0:23:06.520
<v Speaker 1>with that seventh pick in the draft. But when you

0:23:06.560 --> 0:23:10.520
<v Speaker 1>look at it, Dan, it's like, they beat Tennessee and

0:23:10.600 --> 0:23:14.240
<v Speaker 1>they beat Pittsburgh here at Paul Brown Stadium, two playoff teams,

0:23:14.440 --> 0:23:18.960
<v Speaker 1>two teams that have given other people, you know, difficult time.

0:23:19.000 --> 0:23:21.120
<v Speaker 1>Now Pittsburgh's in a little bit of a lull. There's

0:23:21.160 --> 0:23:24.000
<v Speaker 1>no question they're not, you know they I don't think

0:23:24.080 --> 0:23:28.240
<v Speaker 1>they really were a dominant eleven and old football team anyway,

0:23:28.480 --> 0:23:31.040
<v Speaker 1>And now reality is kind of creeping back in. They

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<v Speaker 1>could finish eleven and five. I mean, they've got they've

0:23:33.760 --> 0:23:36.439
<v Speaker 1>got two two good opponents left. They got Indianapolis and

0:23:36.440 --> 0:23:39.359
<v Speaker 1>they have Cleveland. There's no no gimmes there. Both of

0:23:39.400 --> 0:23:41.960
<v Speaker 1>those teams are fighting for playoff positioning as well in

0:23:42.080 --> 0:23:44.760
<v Speaker 1>seeds and all that, So that would be an interesting

0:23:45.280 --> 0:23:47.520
<v Speaker 1>dynamic to go eleven and O and then oh and five.

0:23:47.800 --> 0:23:51.240
<v Speaker 1>That would be a tail of two two seasons in

0:23:51.359 --> 0:23:56.959
<v Speaker 1>one there. But yeah, I mean to me, uh, if

0:23:57.080 --> 0:23:59.800
<v Speaker 1>if you're if you're out there playing football and you're

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<v Speaker 1>all they're a coaching football, it is so foreign to

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<v Speaker 1>say we're gonna lose this because we want to get

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<v Speaker 1>an offensive tackle. Who may be great, who may be

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<v Speaker 1>not as great, who may get hurt, who may get whatever.

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<v Speaker 1>All you're trying to do is keep your damn job.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's a competitive world out there. You know. When

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<v Speaker 1>I was a player, I didn't give a damn with

0:24:20.640 --> 0:24:23.720
<v Speaker 1>fans thought about draft picks, you know. And I mean

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<v Speaker 1>it was like you're just trying to survive, man, I mean,

0:24:26.520 --> 0:24:29.040
<v Speaker 1>that's that's that's all there is to it. And it's

0:24:29.040 --> 0:24:31.280
<v Speaker 1>easy for somebody from the outside looking in say, oh,

0:24:31.400 --> 0:24:32.960
<v Speaker 1>you know, what are you what are you doing? You

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<v Speaker 1>can position yourself for this net hell, bro, this is

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<v Speaker 1>like dog fight time. It's like survival of the fittest.

0:24:39.119 --> 0:24:42.240
<v Speaker 1>It's Darwinism at its finest. You're just trying to survive

0:24:42.320 --> 0:24:46.399
<v Speaker 1>and advance for another week. You're not worried about, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>draft picks and free agency and all that stuff that

0:24:48.720 --> 0:24:50.840
<v Speaker 1>isn't even come close to enter in your mind yet

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<v Speaker 1>if you're a player or a coach. I'm reminded a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit of two thousand and eight. The Bengals were

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<v Speaker 1>won eleven and one with three games to go. They

0:24:57.520 --> 0:25:01.040
<v Speaker 1>won the last three, built some moment, then won the division.

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<v Speaker 1>In two thousand and nine, I'm not going to say

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<v Speaker 1>that I'm not about to say that that's going to happen,

0:25:04.720 --> 0:25:06.800
<v Speaker 1>But the point I want to make is they were

0:25:06.800 --> 0:25:09.760
<v Speaker 1>one eleven and one, they won their last three, they

0:25:09.840 --> 0:25:11.800
<v Speaker 1>dropped in the draft order. They could have had the

0:25:11.840 --> 0:25:14.639
<v Speaker 1>second pick, they fell to the sixth, wound up taking

0:25:14.640 --> 0:25:18.760
<v Speaker 1>Andre Smith. The five guys that were taken ahead of them,

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<v Speaker 1>Matthew Stafford went number one overall. He's had a good career.

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<v Speaker 1>You couldn't even name picks two, three, four and five.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sure at the time they all seemed like they

0:25:29.560 --> 0:25:32.040
<v Speaker 1>were going to be ten time Pro Bowlers. None of

0:25:32.040 --> 0:25:35.760
<v Speaker 1>those guys between Matthew Stafford and Andre Smith did a thing.

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<v Speaker 1>No I agree. I mean, the draft is an imperfect science,

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<v Speaker 1>to say the least. But this guy, Cane Sewell, looks

0:25:44.119 --> 0:25:47.240
<v Speaker 1>like he's he's about as scientifically a perfect as you

0:25:47.240 --> 0:25:48.920
<v Speaker 1>can be. I mean, the guy, the guy is a freak.

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<v Speaker 1>It's it's almost like a can't miss you know, can't

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<v Speaker 1>miss target on him. But I've seen offensive lineman as

0:25:55.359 --> 0:25:59.240
<v Speaker 1>they thought, look at Mandridge already thought, you know, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>so you win some, you lose some, and uh, and

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<v Speaker 1>that's the way it goes in terms of the draft.

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<v Speaker 1>But um, it's just it's it's great to get that

0:26:10.440 --> 0:26:14.640
<v Speaker 1>the Pittsburgh Steeler weight off your shoulders, you know, get

0:26:14.680 --> 0:26:16.440
<v Speaker 1>it off your back. I mean that that thing was

0:26:16.480 --> 0:26:20.000
<v Speaker 1>starting to get i mean too heavy. It was almost

0:26:20.240 --> 0:26:24.040
<v Speaker 1>almost unbearable. And I can't imagine how happy that locker

0:26:24.080 --> 0:26:27.200
<v Speaker 1>room was. I mean I remember, you know, I remember

0:26:27.240 --> 0:26:30.879
<v Speaker 1>locker room celebrations. I mean the biggest locker room celebration

0:26:30.960 --> 0:26:33.040
<v Speaker 1>that it'll always be in my mind. Obviously, it was

0:26:33.080 --> 0:26:35.480
<v Speaker 1>the out of the Freezer Bowl when we beat the

0:26:35.560 --> 0:26:37.439
<v Speaker 1>Chargers going to the Super Bowl, and I was like,

0:26:37.560 --> 0:26:41.520
<v Speaker 1>I you know, it was like a dream. It's like

0:26:41.560 --> 0:26:45.600
<v Speaker 1>this can't be happening. Plus I was frozen stiff every everybody.

0:26:45.640 --> 0:26:48.480
<v Speaker 1>Everybody was like a popsicle trying to thaw out. But

0:26:48.800 --> 0:26:50.400
<v Speaker 1>so there were there are a lot of things going

0:26:50.440 --> 0:26:55.600
<v Speaker 1>on there um, but yeah, that it. There's like Tiger

0:26:55.920 --> 0:26:58.560
<v Speaker 1>Tiger Johnson said to me one time, he said, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>do this as long as you can, because you're never

0:27:01.720 --> 0:27:06.080
<v Speaker 1>ever going to have feelings in any other occupation in

0:27:06.119 --> 0:27:08.120
<v Speaker 1>the world than you're going to have in this one.

0:27:08.560 --> 0:27:12.919
<v Speaker 1>The friendships, the enemies, the hate, the love, the physicality,

0:27:14.080 --> 0:27:16.680
<v Speaker 1>he said, on a day to day basis. Man, he said,

0:27:16.720 --> 0:27:18.680
<v Speaker 1>it's it's a heck of a ride, and you got

0:27:18.680 --> 0:27:20.440
<v Speaker 1>to think about doing it as long as you can.

0:27:20.800 --> 0:27:23.360
<v Speaker 1>And he was right. Old Tiger was right, man. It's

0:27:23.440 --> 0:27:27.760
<v Speaker 1>it's unbelievable. Christmas came four days early. Christmas came four

0:27:27.840 --> 0:27:34.960
<v Speaker 1>days early. Ben oh ho ho Ben Up. Next, the

0:27:35.040 --> 0:27:37.640
<v Speaker 1>final road game of the year is the Bengals head

0:27:37.640 --> 0:27:40.800
<v Speaker 1>to Houston to face the Texans. Houston is four and

0:27:40.920 --> 0:27:44.520
<v Speaker 1>ten after a seven point loss to the Colts on Sunday.

0:27:44.840 --> 0:27:47.879
<v Speaker 1>The Texans have one eight of the last nine meetings

0:27:47.920 --> 0:27:51.800
<v Speaker 1>with the Bengals, including a pair of playoff wins. The

0:27:51.840 --> 0:27:55.400
<v Speaker 1>Bengals Booth Podcast is presented by bud Light Seltzer. It's

0:27:55.520 --> 0:27:59.120
<v Speaker 1>light and refreshing with a hint of fruit flavor. Now

0:27:59.200 --> 0:28:01.520
<v Speaker 1>time for this week's fun Facts segment, where you get

0:28:01.560 --> 0:28:04.639
<v Speaker 1>to know the person under the pads. Time for some

0:28:04.720 --> 0:28:09.840
<v Speaker 1>fun facts with linebacker Josh Bines, a native of Fort Lauderdale, Florida.

0:28:10.160 --> 0:28:13.240
<v Speaker 1>Was football always your sport or were you one of

0:28:13.240 --> 0:28:16.960
<v Speaker 1>these guys who was a standout and everything you ever? Did?

0:28:17.400 --> 0:28:21.000
<v Speaker 1>You know, I'm gonna standout and everything I did? Actually,

0:28:21.720 --> 0:28:24.960
<v Speaker 1>I was actually really good in basketball, and also I

0:28:25.119 --> 0:28:27.639
<v Speaker 1>ran track in high school as well, so I was,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, a multiport athlete for sure, and that was

0:28:30.160 --> 0:28:34.080
<v Speaker 1>pretty decent in all of them. Your grandfather was a linebacker,

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<v Speaker 1>Your dad was a linebacker. Did you have an understanding

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<v Speaker 1>of xs and o's at a really early age as

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<v Speaker 1>a result, Yeah, I would definitely say so. My dad

0:28:45.040 --> 0:28:47.640
<v Speaker 1>was very pivotal in that point in my life, especially

0:28:47.680 --> 0:28:50.360
<v Speaker 1>as I got older into high school and linebacker was

0:28:50.360 --> 0:28:54.240
<v Speaker 1>definitely my position. He definitely took the time and talk

0:28:54.320 --> 0:28:56.760
<v Speaker 1>to me about simple things, especially talking about just the

0:28:56.800 --> 0:29:00.640
<v Speaker 1>simplest controlling a defense, being that leader and a lot

0:29:00.640 --> 0:29:02.719
<v Speaker 1>of those things obviously was natural to me, but just

0:29:03.120 --> 0:29:05.640
<v Speaker 1>the simple things about playing the position and how to

0:29:05.720 --> 0:29:08.920
<v Speaker 1>see and had the vision and when you back there.

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<v Speaker 1>And my dad was very pivotal, you know, in that

0:29:11.760 --> 0:29:14.200
<v Speaker 1>time frame of my life, and obviously I took some

0:29:14.280 --> 0:29:16.440
<v Speaker 1>of what he taught me and ran with it along

0:29:16.480 --> 0:29:19.120
<v Speaker 1>the way into the NFL. We're doing fun facts with

0:29:19.240 --> 0:29:22.040
<v Speaker 1>Josh Bines. You are a highly talented recruit. Did you

0:29:22.160 --> 0:29:25.920
<v Speaker 1>enjoy the attention and do you have a great recruiting story.

0:29:26.240 --> 0:29:29.200
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if I have a great recruiting story

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<v Speaker 1>per se, but it was a lot, you know. I

0:29:32.080 --> 0:29:34.840
<v Speaker 1>honestly was just playing football because I loved it. And

0:29:35.120 --> 0:29:36.840
<v Speaker 1>my brother was a really good quarterback, so he was

0:29:36.840 --> 0:29:39.479
<v Speaker 1>getting recruited a year before. And I've seen all the recruits,

0:29:39.880 --> 0:29:42.120
<v Speaker 1>the coaches and everybody coming to the house to bring

0:29:42.200 --> 0:29:46.760
<v Speaker 1>him to the schools, you know, the Louisville, Florida, any

0:29:47.040 --> 0:29:49.480
<v Speaker 1>school you can name, and and of course, you know,

0:29:49.520 --> 0:29:51.400
<v Speaker 1>I'm sitting there in my mind like, you know, hopefully

0:29:51.440 --> 0:29:53.200
<v Speaker 1>it's like that for me. Yeah, it's my big brother

0:29:53.240 --> 0:29:55.120
<v Speaker 1>going through. I'm hope it's like that. And then I

0:29:55.240 --> 0:29:58.240
<v Speaker 1>ended up ended up turning out to be like crazy,

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<v Speaker 1>like I had coaches every week, my phone blow up.

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<v Speaker 1>Um one thing I do remember vividly. It's just coming

0:30:04.560 --> 0:30:07.200
<v Speaker 1>thinking about this now is closer to call all kinds

0:30:07.240 --> 0:30:09.320
<v Speaker 1>of times of the night, and my mom, of course

0:30:09.360 --> 0:30:12.360
<v Speaker 1>we're sleep and my mama answered the phone and she

0:30:12.600 --> 0:30:14.520
<v Speaker 1>was just yelling like, don't call my house this lad,

0:30:14.920 --> 0:30:17.080
<v Speaker 1>it's too late. He's sleep. He got school tomorrow and

0:30:17.240 --> 0:30:20.840
<v Speaker 1>hangled the paul because it was it was like it

0:30:20.920 --> 0:30:23.200
<v Speaker 1>was a lie. It was like literally, recruiting was two

0:30:23.240 --> 0:30:27.360
<v Speaker 1>times crazier from my brother went to me because my

0:30:27.400 --> 0:30:31.760
<v Speaker 1>recruiting level was about higher. So you chose Auburn. You

0:30:31.800 --> 0:30:34.880
<v Speaker 1>were recruited by an assistant coach named Eddie Grant who's

0:30:34.920 --> 0:30:38.160
<v Speaker 1>now the offensive coordinator at the University of Kentucky, and

0:30:38.280 --> 0:30:41.040
<v Speaker 1>your head coach when you signed with Auburn is about

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<v Speaker 1>to become a US senator, Tommy Tubberville Ille. What was

0:30:45.600 --> 0:30:49.120
<v Speaker 1>your reaction to seeing coach tubs run for and win

0:30:49.480 --> 0:30:52.800
<v Speaker 1>a Senate seat. I don't know. I just couldn't believe

0:30:52.800 --> 0:30:55.400
<v Speaker 1>it when I seen it on Twitter and online and stuff,

0:30:55.440 --> 0:30:57.320
<v Speaker 1>and I was like, Tommy Tuberville is going up a senator?

0:30:57.400 --> 0:31:01.240
<v Speaker 1>What is going on? I just remember him being my coach.

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<v Speaker 1>What thirteen years ago when I first came to Auburn.

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<v Speaker 1>Now he's the Senator of Alabama. That's crazy. We're doing

0:31:09.800 --> 0:31:12.320
<v Speaker 1>fun facts with Josh Bines. While you were at Auburn,

0:31:12.400 --> 0:31:15.959
<v Speaker 1>you met a volleyball player named Brianna Johnson who became

0:31:16.120 --> 0:31:19.760
<v Speaker 1>your wife. How did the romance begin? Oh, my gods,

0:31:19.760 --> 0:31:22.440
<v Speaker 1>the romance. It was just that was my best friend

0:31:22.480 --> 0:31:26.040
<v Speaker 1>honestly in college. We hung out every single day from

0:31:26.120 --> 0:31:28.360
<v Speaker 1>day one. She was literally one of the first couple

0:31:28.360 --> 0:31:32.320
<v Speaker 1>people I met on campus, and that summer before the

0:31:33.000 --> 0:31:36.520
<v Speaker 1>summer of two thousand and seven, and just we became

0:31:36.640 --> 0:31:39.760
<v Speaker 1>close and we stayed close throughout those whole the entire

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<v Speaker 1>you know, Tim, we was in Auburn and all of

0:31:42.160 --> 0:31:44.360
<v Speaker 1>a sudden, you know, we just I was like, hey,

0:31:44.440 --> 0:31:46.880
<v Speaker 1>you know, you know, can we make this work as

0:31:47.080 --> 0:31:50.080
<v Speaker 1>you know, me and you? And obviously we did at

0:31:50.080 --> 0:31:52.600
<v Speaker 1>this point and we've been married now six over six

0:31:52.720 --> 0:31:55.960
<v Speaker 1>years now, and that's the best decision, definitely I ever made.

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<v Speaker 1>You have three sons, they have athletic DNA. Yes, I

0:32:02.760 --> 0:32:05.400
<v Speaker 1>got three boys, one is ten five and a nine

0:32:05.440 --> 0:32:09.520
<v Speaker 1>month old right now, and yes, my boys there there

0:32:09.600 --> 0:32:12.080
<v Speaker 1>everything to me and they right now, my older son's

0:32:12.080 --> 0:32:15.320
<v Speaker 1>playing baseball. Actually, both my boys are are doing baseball,

0:32:15.360 --> 0:32:18.640
<v Speaker 1>and and obviously if it wasn't COVID right now, I'm old,

0:32:18.680 --> 0:32:20.880
<v Speaker 1>it is probably doing football this fall. But hopefully we

0:32:20.920 --> 0:32:23.120
<v Speaker 1>get through that and he can get back to that.

0:32:23.200 --> 0:32:26.160
<v Speaker 1>And he played basketball as well, so they have definitely

0:32:26.200 --> 0:32:29.560
<v Speaker 1>have some athletic DNA to live live after. But I'm

0:32:29.560 --> 0:32:32.000
<v Speaker 1>just happy to whatever they decide to do, I'm all

0:32:32.040 --> 0:32:34.760
<v Speaker 1>for it. Josh, you had a great career at Auburn.

0:32:35.000 --> 0:32:38.800
<v Speaker 1>You earned all SEC honors, and yet you weren't drafted.

0:32:39.280 --> 0:32:41.760
<v Speaker 1>How much did that hurt? It was tough for me.

0:32:42.000 --> 0:32:44.239
<v Speaker 1>It was hard because you know, I feel like, um,

0:32:44.960 --> 0:32:47.680
<v Speaker 1>my junior year, I was definitely um, you know, in

0:32:47.680 --> 0:32:50.160
<v Speaker 1>a position to be drafted, and I thought about leaving earlier.

0:32:50.160 --> 0:32:55.000
<v Speaker 1>My junior year I went undrafted, and and it just,

0:32:55.320 --> 0:32:57.160
<v Speaker 1>you know, it should propelled me to mentally just go

0:32:57.200 --> 0:32:58.280
<v Speaker 1>out there and just do what I have to do

0:32:58.320 --> 0:33:01.200
<v Speaker 1>to survive and make a team, especially in Baltimore. I

0:33:01.320 --> 0:33:03.640
<v Speaker 1>was the biggest goal, was just trying to prove myself

0:33:03.640 --> 0:33:06.000
<v Speaker 1>that belong in this league and prove that, you know,

0:33:06.040 --> 0:33:07.800
<v Speaker 1>I could play this game for a long period of time.

0:33:08.280 --> 0:33:10.720
<v Speaker 1>We're chatting with Josh Bines. So you did sign with

0:33:10.760 --> 0:33:13.080
<v Speaker 1>the Ravens as a college free agent. They let you

0:33:13.120 --> 0:33:14.880
<v Speaker 1>go at the end of training camp before putting it

0:33:14.960 --> 0:33:17.560
<v Speaker 1>on the practice squad. But that didn't happen for a

0:33:17.560 --> 0:33:21.760
<v Speaker 1>couple of months. What did you do in between? I

0:33:21.840 --> 0:33:24.200
<v Speaker 1>was looking for a job, like you know, like normal people,

0:33:24.360 --> 0:33:26.479
<v Speaker 1>you know, trying to figure out my next phase. I

0:33:26.520 --> 0:33:30.000
<v Speaker 1>was actually the day I signed with Baltimore, I had

0:33:30.000 --> 0:33:35.800
<v Speaker 1>got an interview with Kaplin University as academic visor. And

0:33:35.960 --> 0:33:39.440
<v Speaker 1>literally that day I came home, I got a phone call,

0:33:39.520 --> 0:33:41.120
<v Speaker 1>still had my suit on everything. I got a phone

0:33:41.120 --> 0:33:44.480
<v Speaker 1>call from Azzi. Gazzi knew something. He told me. He said,

0:33:44.480 --> 0:33:45.760
<v Speaker 1>you don't gotta wor out. You gonna do anything you

0:33:45.800 --> 0:33:47.480
<v Speaker 1>want to bring you back to Baltimore. And I was

0:33:47.520 --> 0:33:50.440
<v Speaker 1>just in tears. I couldn't believe it because I was like,

0:33:50.480 --> 0:33:52.280
<v Speaker 1>I thought it was over my life, you know. I

0:33:52.360 --> 0:33:54.320
<v Speaker 1>was like, man, I made the decision. I'm gonna move forward.

0:33:54.320 --> 0:33:56.000
<v Speaker 1>I'm still gonna work out of sub stage shape. But

0:33:56.040 --> 0:33:58.400
<v Speaker 1>I was moving forward my life in and I'll be

0:33:58.640 --> 0:34:01.120
<v Speaker 1>It's crazy enough that one called lead me to ten

0:34:01.200 --> 0:34:03.200
<v Speaker 1>years later. So you were about to take a job

0:34:03.240 --> 0:34:07.280
<v Speaker 1>as an academic advisor, and Ozzy called that day. Yeah,

0:34:07.360 --> 0:34:10.080
<v Speaker 1>same day, literally got home. All I had, all I

0:34:10.120 --> 0:34:12.480
<v Speaker 1>did was loosing my tie, and all of a sudden

0:34:12.719 --> 0:34:14.440
<v Speaker 1>Ozzy be on the phone, on the phone with Ozzy,

0:34:14.719 --> 0:34:16.640
<v Speaker 1>and I just started boom, crying and getting and all

0:34:16.640 --> 0:34:17.960
<v Speaker 1>of a sudden went from that to all right and

0:34:18.000 --> 0:34:20.160
<v Speaker 1>let me get ready in pack. And but I honestly,

0:34:20.200 --> 0:34:21.440
<v Speaker 1>I wasn't all the way all the way through it,

0:34:21.480 --> 0:34:24.959
<v Speaker 1>because I told you, I can't remember her name exactly now,

0:34:25.320 --> 0:34:27.400
<v Speaker 1>but I told her to the person interview with me,

0:34:27.400 --> 0:34:28.800
<v Speaker 1>and I told her, I said, let's just hold the

0:34:28.880 --> 0:34:30.319
<v Speaker 1>job for me and just in case, because this is

0:34:30.400 --> 0:34:32.640
<v Speaker 1>this game isn't forever, so I might need it in

0:34:32.600 --> 0:34:34.759
<v Speaker 1>an off season, maybe in a few weeks, and I'll

0:34:34.800 --> 0:34:36.640
<v Speaker 1>never forget. She told me, She told me God has

0:34:36.640 --> 0:34:39.000
<v Speaker 1>another plan for you. You won't have to worry about this,

0:34:39.480 --> 0:34:41.520
<v Speaker 1>and you go ahead and keep doing your thing. You're

0:34:41.560 --> 0:34:42.880
<v Speaker 1>gonna be in a You're gonna be in the NFL

0:34:42.920 --> 0:34:45.040
<v Speaker 1>for a long time. I mean I literally talked to

0:34:45.080 --> 0:34:50.320
<v Speaker 1>her that interview and for her to say that, you know, um,

0:34:50.320 --> 0:34:52.439
<v Speaker 1>ten years ago and it's still it's like you said,

0:34:52.480 --> 0:34:54.399
<v Speaker 1>I'm still playing. It's just it's just it's just it's

0:34:54.400 --> 0:34:57.919
<v Speaker 1>just crazy and that's just guys will just guys will

0:34:57.960 --> 0:35:00.719
<v Speaker 1>over me. We're doing fun facts with joh Spines. Your

0:35:00.760 --> 0:35:04.400
<v Speaker 1>second NFL season ended with a Super Bowl ring, but

0:35:04.480 --> 0:35:09.359
<v Speaker 1>it started with a very serious injury. What happened, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>so in practice in training camp, we're in our first

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<v Speaker 1>or second padded practice and guy hit me in the

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<v Speaker 1>baging gold line, live gold line, right in the middle

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<v Speaker 1>of my back. And I get up and I just,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I'm thinking, now, I'm okay, she got hit

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<v Speaker 1>in the back, and all of a sudden that the

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<v Speaker 1>right side I believe it was, wasn't My leg wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>really moving. So I ended up going to training room.

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<v Speaker 1>And once I went to training room and put some

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<v Speaker 1>ice in my bag and it was over with and

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<v Speaker 1>I couldn't really walk. It was so much pain or

0:35:39.280 --> 0:35:43.920
<v Speaker 1>I didn't know what was wrong, And and my fiance say, well, now, wife.

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<v Speaker 1>Of course, at the time I'm calling her, she's you know,

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<v Speaker 1>trying to figure out what's gonna want to need to do.

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<v Speaker 1>And I told I said, it might not be the

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<v Speaker 1>big of a deal. And then obviously I do the

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<v Speaker 1>X rays and do everything else. And if I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>tell me, oh, I had fractured my lord trainverse processors

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<v Speaker 1>and I was like what it's like, yeah, your lower

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<v Speaker 1>back and I was like, broke my back. I was

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<v Speaker 1>like yeah. So it was crazy because I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>am I still gonna play? As all my mind was

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<v Speaker 1>like am I still be able to play football? And

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<v Speaker 1>as it's over for me? So that was my biggest

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<v Speaker 1>obstacle during that whole time mentally trying to figure out

0:36:13.760 --> 0:36:16.920
<v Speaker 1>I'm still gonna play this game. So broken back is

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<v Speaker 1>not an injured shoulder. You're not upping about doing your thing.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean you're laid out. How bad was that? Oh?

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<v Speaker 1>It was bad. It was bad. And like I said,

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<v Speaker 1>luckily I have have my my then at toime fiance

0:36:29.760 --> 0:36:33.319
<v Speaker 1>and my now wife. She was there all the way through.

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<v Speaker 1>She um and I couldn't even get out of the bathroom,

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<v Speaker 1>get out the bed to go to the bathroom. So

0:36:38.600 --> 0:36:40.759
<v Speaker 1>I had a big old jug next to my bed

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<v Speaker 1>just so I could turn sideways to use the bathroom.

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<v Speaker 1>I know it's too much affation, but I just all

0:36:44.239 --> 0:36:47.120
<v Speaker 1>I had. I couldn't do anything. It was painful, and

0:36:47.239 --> 0:36:49.080
<v Speaker 1>you know I was I was trying and trying. She

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<v Speaker 1>would get my ice and try to take care of

0:36:51.000 --> 0:36:53.839
<v Speaker 1>me and she You know, when you have somebody that

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<v Speaker 1>does that all for you, and those and those moments

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<v Speaker 1>when you're down and trying to figure things out and

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<v Speaker 1>what's going on, you know, I'm just blessed to have

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<v Speaker 1>someone like that in my life, still to this day

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<v Speaker 1>and for the rest of my life. And that's why

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<v Speaker 1>I said, that's the greatest decision I ever made, is

0:37:07.719 --> 0:37:10.880
<v Speaker 1>Mary and my wife. So you got healthy. The Ravens

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<v Speaker 1>made it to the Super Bowl. They beat the forty

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<v Speaker 1>nine ers, and you made a special team's tackle that

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<v Speaker 1>ended the game. And just to set the scene for

0:37:19.480 --> 0:37:22.600
<v Speaker 1>people that don't remember, the Ravens took an intentional safety

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<v Speaker 1>at the end of the game and had to do

0:37:24.760 --> 0:37:28.040
<v Speaker 1>the free kick. They kick it to the very dangerous

0:37:28.320 --> 0:37:32.800
<v Speaker 1>Ted Gin Junior, and he was going. He ran about

0:37:32.920 --> 0:37:36.480
<v Speaker 1>thirty yards before you got him to the ground, right, yes, yes,

0:37:36.600 --> 0:37:39.359
<v Speaker 1>And it was nervous because it's ted again and tied again.

0:37:39.480 --> 0:37:41.480
<v Speaker 1>At that time, was one of the most dangerous at turners.

0:37:41.840 --> 0:37:43.839
<v Speaker 1>And we was like, all right, we thought somebody would

0:37:43.840 --> 0:37:45.480
<v Speaker 1>get him early. But now he started going to the

0:37:45.520 --> 0:37:48.480
<v Speaker 1>sideline and obviously when he got into my grass, I

0:37:48.560 --> 0:37:50.200
<v Speaker 1>just slung him down. Ball came out and he just

0:37:50.280 --> 0:37:52.200
<v Speaker 1>knew it was game over. And I think it's just

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<v Speaker 1>crazy to start the year that I had, I couldn't

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<v Speaker 1>really do anything, you know, with my back, and all

0:37:58.800 --> 0:38:00.800
<v Speaker 1>of a sudden the years to start and I still,

0:38:00.800 --> 0:38:03.239
<v Speaker 1>you know, getting through my injury finally even a practice too.

0:38:03.719 --> 0:38:07.040
<v Speaker 1>From practice actually starting that year to trying to you know,

0:38:07.160 --> 0:38:10.000
<v Speaker 1>starting my first NFL game, making playing a lot more,

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<v Speaker 1>and then go from that to actually making last type

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<v Speaker 1>of the super Bowl. It's just it's just a crazy

0:38:14.440 --> 0:38:17.360
<v Speaker 1>moment and I can't really as just as suddenly you know,

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<v Speaker 1>you're writing a storybook or something, just you know, took

0:38:19.800 --> 0:38:22.120
<v Speaker 1>my kids, hopefully as they get older, and they were

0:38:22.120 --> 0:38:25.960
<v Speaker 1>thinking somebody else when it's really just me, all right.

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<v Speaker 1>A few wild card questions to wrap up fun facts

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<v Speaker 1>with Josh Bines. When's the last time you had short hair? Oh?

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<v Speaker 1>Short hair? The last time? Probably short hair. I had

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<v Speaker 1>to be an elementary And the only reason I got

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<v Speaker 1>short hair is because I was as smart as I was.

0:38:41.440 --> 0:38:43.600
<v Speaker 1>I got it had I got in trouble for maybe

0:38:43.719 --> 0:38:45.920
<v Speaker 1>getting in trouble at school, maybe a little angry problems

0:38:45.960 --> 0:38:48.640
<v Speaker 1>here and there. Well, but so I got a couple

0:38:48.640 --> 0:38:50.640
<v Speaker 1>of fights in here and there. My dad was like, Okay,

0:38:50.680 --> 0:38:52.480
<v Speaker 1>so we're gonna keep doing that. So eventually cut my

0:38:52.520 --> 0:38:55.239
<v Speaker 1>hair like really low to almost looking bald, and I

0:38:55.280 --> 0:38:57.600
<v Speaker 1>was embarrassed, and of course my mom didn't let it

0:38:57.680 --> 0:39:00.160
<v Speaker 1>have to get so I've always pretty much for us

0:39:00.160 --> 0:39:01.960
<v Speaker 1>outside of that. I think that's why been third grade.

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<v Speaker 1>But since that time, I've always from a little kid

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<v Speaker 1>all the way, I've always had hair frow to the

0:39:07.239 --> 0:39:10.200
<v Speaker 1>Jerry curl place back in the day, to braids and

0:39:10.239 --> 0:39:12.480
<v Speaker 1>then bradies went to what I have now Jerry's for

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<v Speaker 1>the last thirteen or so years. All right, final fun

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<v Speaker 1>fact for Josh Bines. If you could meet anybody in history, athlete, entertainer, statesman, whatever, Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>who would that person be? That's so hard, But honestly,

0:39:29.920 --> 0:39:31.759
<v Speaker 1>it has to be Obama at this point, it has

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<v Speaker 1>to be Obama. Obama is the greatest and and what

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<v Speaker 1>he represents and him him Michelle have a great connection

0:39:39.360 --> 0:39:42.040
<v Speaker 1>and what they have inspires even me and my wife.

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<v Speaker 1>And when you have that bond with someone else as

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<v Speaker 1>unbreakable and they show it and you can tell as

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<v Speaker 1>authentic and what he represent as a man and especially

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<v Speaker 1>lead his nation is during his presidency. Is just awesome

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<v Speaker 1>and definitely be a person I would love to meet.

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<v Speaker 1>You're off the hot seat, appreciate your time. Thank you

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<v Speaker 1>very much, and best of luck the rest of the year.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you so much for having me. I'll appreciate it.

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