1 00:00:03,560 --> 00:00:06,519 Speaker 1: Hi again everybody. I'm Dan Horde and thanks for downloading 2 00:00:06,519 --> 00:00:11,920 Speaker 1: The Bengals Booth Podcast. The have a hully jelly Christmas 3 00:00:12,680 --> 00:00:15,960 Speaker 1: edition as the Bengals give their fans the number one 4 00:00:16,040 --> 00:00:20,760 Speaker 1: gift on their wish list, a stunning win over the hated, despised, 5 00:00:20,800 --> 00:00:25,720 Speaker 1: buck always respected Pittsburgh Steelers. On Monday Night football. Coming up, 6 00:00:25,800 --> 00:00:29,800 Speaker 1: you'll hear radio replays, postgame comments, and in depth analysis 7 00:00:29,800 --> 00:00:32,960 Speaker 1: from Dave Lapham, and in this week's fun fact segment, 8 00:00:33,040 --> 00:00:35,960 Speaker 1: you'll get to know the person under the pads as 9 00:00:36,000 --> 00:00:39,879 Speaker 1: I go one on one with linebacker Josh Bines. The 10 00:00:39,920 --> 00:00:44,479 Speaker 1: Bengals Booth Podcast is presented by bud Light Seltzer. Refresh 11 00:00:44,520 --> 00:00:47,239 Speaker 1: the game, and here's a quick reminder that you can 12 00:00:47,240 --> 00:00:50,640 Speaker 1: have the latest edition of this podcast delivered right to 13 00:00:50,680 --> 00:00:55,200 Speaker 1: your phone, tablet, or computer by subscribing on iTunes, Stitcher, 14 00:00:55,280 --> 00:00:59,400 Speaker 1: Google Play, Spotify, or pod Bean. It's the greatest thing 15 00:00:59,480 --> 00:01:04,760 Speaker 1: since End of Year lists. I am a total sucker 16 00:01:05,000 --> 00:01:08,119 Speaker 1: for the various end of year lists that come out 17 00:01:08,160 --> 00:01:11,520 Speaker 1: in the final few weeks of December. Top ten movies, 18 00:01:11,640 --> 00:01:13,800 Speaker 1: even though I've rarely seen more than one or two 19 00:01:14,319 --> 00:01:17,280 Speaker 1: Top ten news stories. Even though this year most of 20 00:01:17,319 --> 00:01:21,120 Speaker 1: them are likely to be depressing top ten books. Even 21 00:01:21,200 --> 00:01:23,960 Speaker 1: though I've been reading all the light, we cannot see 22 00:01:24,360 --> 00:01:26,920 Speaker 1: a few pages a night before bed for at least 23 00:01:26,920 --> 00:01:29,960 Speaker 1: a month, and that book came out in twenty fourteen. 24 00:01:30,720 --> 00:01:33,840 Speaker 1: If I see an end of year list, I'm reading it, 25 00:01:34,200 --> 00:01:37,440 Speaker 1: even if I know very little of the content. I 26 00:01:37,440 --> 00:01:41,120 Speaker 1: should probably make a top ten list for why I 27 00:01:41,240 --> 00:01:46,480 Speaker 1: love lists. Now let's get to the game. It began 28 00:01:46,800 --> 00:01:50,760 Speaker 1: with a salute to the Radio City Roquets Christmas Spectacular 29 00:01:51,240 --> 00:01:55,320 Speaker 1: as in one two three kick, one two three kick. 30 00:01:56,080 --> 00:01:59,720 Speaker 1: Each team began with two three and outs on offense, 31 00:02:00,360 --> 00:02:04,440 Speaker 1: but Pittsburgh's third possession was even worse. Pittsburgh has it 32 00:02:04,560 --> 00:02:07,960 Speaker 1: first intent to the nineteen yard line. The exchange was fumbled, 33 00:02:08,200 --> 00:02:11,200 Speaker 1: the ball on the ground at the twenty. The Bengals 34 00:02:11,200 --> 00:02:15,440 Speaker 1: have started celebrating and they recover the Pittsburgh Steelers fumble. 35 00:02:15,919 --> 00:02:18,760 Speaker 1: Josh Bines at the bottom of the pile comes up 36 00:02:18,800 --> 00:02:21,880 Speaker 1: with a football that led to an Austin Cybered field 37 00:02:21,880 --> 00:02:25,400 Speaker 1: goal and a three nothing Cincinnati lead. Before the first 38 00:02:25,440 --> 00:02:29,200 Speaker 1: quarter was over, the Steelers coughed it up again. Roethlisberger 39 00:02:29,280 --> 00:02:31,760 Speaker 1: back to throw short pass over the middle, caught by 40 00:02:31,840 --> 00:02:35,079 Speaker 1: Juji Smith Schuster. The ball was popped away by Von Bell. 41 00:02:35,360 --> 00:02:38,680 Speaker 1: It's scooped up by the Bengals and returned to the twenty, 42 00:02:38,919 --> 00:02:42,800 Speaker 1: but they're saying it's an incomplete pass. After reviewing the play, 43 00:02:43,040 --> 00:02:46,800 Speaker 1: the receiver completed the process of a catch. As a result, 44 00:02:46,919 --> 00:02:49,360 Speaker 1: it is a catch in a foam role, as is 45 00:02:49,400 --> 00:02:53,520 Speaker 1: his custom. Juju Smith Schuster danced down the Bengals logo 46 00:02:53,600 --> 00:02:57,959 Speaker 1: and a TikTok video before the game, then got blown 47 00:02:58,040 --> 00:03:02,160 Speaker 1: up by Von Bell and fumbled on Primetime TV. Here's 48 00:03:02,160 --> 00:03:05,480 Speaker 1: the Bengal safety. We have a limless group, and man, 49 00:03:05,520 --> 00:03:07,800 Speaker 1: we stepped up to the place to night, Monday Night Football, 50 00:03:07,880 --> 00:03:10,200 Speaker 1: the biggest stage. We're out there and hit out. The 51 00:03:10,200 --> 00:03:13,840 Speaker 1: parking man was out there doing things we love at 52 00:03:13,840 --> 00:03:16,280 Speaker 1: the highest level and we're just playing for one another, 53 00:03:16,440 --> 00:03:18,720 Speaker 1: planning for the name went back your jersey, you know, 54 00:03:19,280 --> 00:03:22,120 Speaker 1: because guys come from different stories and they're just telling 55 00:03:22,120 --> 00:03:23,520 Speaker 1: the story to night and we're going out there and 56 00:03:23,520 --> 00:03:26,560 Speaker 1: making plays. Ryan Finley, making his first start of the 57 00:03:26,600 --> 00:03:30,440 Speaker 1: year at quarterback, turned the takeaway into points with two 58 00:03:30,600 --> 00:03:33,920 Speaker 1: third down pass completions to t Higgins that drove the 59 00:03:33,919 --> 00:03:36,920 Speaker 1: Bengals to the four yard line. Finley under center, takes 60 00:03:36,960 --> 00:03:39,080 Speaker 1: the snap, hands it off Geo trying to run wide 61 00:03:39,080 --> 00:03:41,680 Speaker 1: to the right. Little ship off. Yeah. He takes it 62 00:03:41,760 --> 00:03:45,040 Speaker 1: into the end zone before tossing the ball into the air. 63 00:03:45,480 --> 00:03:50,800 Speaker 1: Touchdown Cincinnati as the Bengals go up nine nothing pending 64 00:03:50,840 --> 00:03:54,400 Speaker 1: the extra point. Giovanni Bernard finished with twenty five carries 65 00:03:54,480 --> 00:03:57,480 Speaker 1: for eighty three yards, and that touchdown run and the 66 00:03:57,520 --> 00:04:01,520 Speaker 1: point after gave the Bengals a ten en lead. Surely 67 00:04:01,600 --> 00:04:06,040 Speaker 1: big Ben would strike back right wrong. Roethlisberger back to 68 00:04:06,160 --> 00:04:10,000 Speaker 1: throw fires apastit's intercept it picked off at the thirty 69 00:04:10,040 --> 00:04:12,960 Speaker 1: eight yard line. The Bengals are running it back high 70 00:04:12,960 --> 00:04:18,520 Speaker 1: stepping his way as McKenzie Alexander he got hit after 71 00:04:18,600 --> 00:04:21,239 Speaker 1: being out of bounds and now he got some pushing 72 00:04:21,240 --> 00:04:25,560 Speaker 1: and shoving in the Bengals bench area. But McKenzie Alexander 73 00:04:25,680 --> 00:04:29,839 Speaker 1: intercepts Big Ben and runs it into Steelers territory. There 74 00:04:30,000 --> 00:04:32,800 Speaker 1: was a fifteen yard penalty for a necessary roughness that 75 00:04:32,920 --> 00:04:35,880 Speaker 1: gave the Bengals the ball at the Pittsburgh twenty six 76 00:04:36,520 --> 00:04:39,640 Speaker 1: three plays later, they were in the end zone again. 77 00:04:39,960 --> 00:04:42,839 Speaker 1: Finley catches a shotgun snap. He's back to throw the 78 00:04:42,880 --> 00:04:46,760 Speaker 1: protection's good shot pass caught over the middle, Bernardo breaks 79 00:04:46,760 --> 00:04:49,560 Speaker 1: the tackle at the five, runs into the end zone, 80 00:04:49,800 --> 00:04:52,720 Speaker 1: and throws the ball away up in the air again, 81 00:04:53,240 --> 00:04:59,120 Speaker 1: touchdown Cincinnati and the Bengals lead the Steelers by sixteen points. 82 00:04:59,240 --> 00:05:02,080 Speaker 1: The extra point he made it seventeen nothing, and all 83 00:05:02,160 --> 00:05:06,440 Speaker 1: seventeen points were the result of takeaways by the Bengals defense. 84 00:05:06,880 --> 00:05:10,120 Speaker 1: Here's Ryan Finley. We preached the heck out of that 85 00:05:10,200 --> 00:05:13,559 Speaker 1: all week. Was just winning the turnover battle versus these guys. 86 00:05:13,600 --> 00:05:16,880 Speaker 1: And you know, if you get three takeaways on defense, 87 00:05:16,920 --> 00:05:18,600 Speaker 1: you know the offense owes it to you to win 88 00:05:18,720 --> 00:05:22,039 Speaker 1: night football game. So you know, just happy we could 89 00:05:22,040 --> 00:05:24,640 Speaker 1: do enough to get that defense to win, because they 90 00:05:24,720 --> 00:05:28,080 Speaker 1: service heck deserved it. It was seventeen nothing Bengals. At 91 00:05:28,120 --> 00:05:33,400 Speaker 1: the half they had seventeen points. Roethlisberger had nineteen yards. 92 00:05:33,960 --> 00:05:36,360 Speaker 1: But in the third quarter he finally looked like the 93 00:05:36,480 --> 00:05:40,800 Speaker 1: quarterback who's made life miserable for the Bengals for seventeen years. 94 00:05:41,360 --> 00:05:44,040 Speaker 1: First with a screen pass to Chase Claypool for thirty 95 00:05:44,080 --> 00:05:47,440 Speaker 1: seven yards, and then Ben's gonna float it deep down 96 00:05:47,520 --> 00:05:51,520 Speaker 1: field into the end zone touchdown Deyonte Johnson, and just 97 00:05:51,720 --> 00:05:55,520 Speaker 1: like that, Ben Roethlisberger and the Steelers come to life 98 00:05:56,040 --> 00:05:58,920 Speaker 1: a screen passed down the sideline for a thirty six 99 00:05:59,000 --> 00:06:04,000 Speaker 1: yard game, followed immediately by a touchdown pass to Deonte Johnson. 100 00:06:04,200 --> 00:06:06,320 Speaker 1: The next time the Steelers got the ball, they drove 101 00:06:06,360 --> 00:06:09,240 Speaker 1: to the Bengals seven before settling for a field goal 102 00:06:09,279 --> 00:06:13,480 Speaker 1: that cuts Cincinnati's lead down to seven points. The Bengals 103 00:06:13,480 --> 00:06:16,200 Speaker 1: failed to score in the third quarter for the seventh 104 00:06:16,200 --> 00:06:19,599 Speaker 1: consecutive game, but they started to drive late in the 105 00:06:19,720 --> 00:06:22,880 Speaker 1: third that reached the end zone early in the fourth. 106 00:06:23,320 --> 00:06:26,760 Speaker 1: Finley in the gun second down in two runs after 107 00:06:26,800 --> 00:06:29,039 Speaker 1: Faki to p Ran, He's to the fifteen to ten 108 00:06:29,360 --> 00:06:33,520 Speaker 1: middle of the field into the end zone, touchdown Ryan 109 00:06:33,680 --> 00:06:37,640 Speaker 1: Finlay as he runs the zone read to perfection. The 110 00:06:37,760 --> 00:06:42,359 Speaker 1: Steelers all converged on samaj p Ryan and Ryan Finlay 111 00:06:42,440 --> 00:06:45,839 Speaker 1: went untouched into the end zone for the Bengals score. 112 00:06:46,160 --> 00:06:48,880 Speaker 1: Finley is not known as a running quarterback, but finished 113 00:06:48,880 --> 00:06:52,160 Speaker 1: with forty seven yards on ten carries. Well, that helps 114 00:06:52,200 --> 00:06:55,159 Speaker 1: when you have a thirty yard touchdown and don't get touched, 115 00:06:55,200 --> 00:06:59,360 Speaker 1: So that helps with the average. But you know, it's 116 00:06:59,360 --> 00:07:03,160 Speaker 1: always been, you know, a part of my game. You know, 117 00:07:03,200 --> 00:07:05,560 Speaker 1: it's kind of using athleticism to get out of some stuff. 118 00:07:05,600 --> 00:07:09,160 Speaker 1: And you know, it's it's not heavy what I do, 119 00:07:09,200 --> 00:07:11,240 Speaker 1: but I think it's it's something that I can definitely 120 00:07:11,280 --> 00:07:13,320 Speaker 1: do on occasion. And this was a game that called 121 00:07:13,320 --> 00:07:15,400 Speaker 1: for the touchdown play. Did you run that during the 122 00:07:15,400 --> 00:07:17,200 Speaker 1: week or was that just it was a concept you 123 00:07:17,200 --> 00:07:20,000 Speaker 1: guys have talked about or ru we had not ripped 124 00:07:20,040 --> 00:07:22,280 Speaker 1: that play. That was just Zach being you know, real 125 00:07:22,320 --> 00:07:25,280 Speaker 1: headsy and just kind of tagging it on there, and 126 00:07:25,800 --> 00:07:28,280 Speaker 1: you know why not. Up by two touchdowns in the fourth, 127 00:07:28,320 --> 00:07:30,240 Speaker 1: it looked like the Bengals were on the verge of 128 00:07:30,280 --> 00:07:33,200 Speaker 1: wrapping it up when they stopped the Steelers on fourth 129 00:07:33,200 --> 00:07:36,440 Speaker 1: and four with less than six minutes to go, but 130 00:07:36,560 --> 00:07:39,840 Speaker 1: Will Jackson was called for pass interference near the goal 131 00:07:39,920 --> 00:07:42,520 Speaker 1: line first and goal from the one. After the penalty 132 00:07:42,600 --> 00:07:45,640 Speaker 1: on Will Jackson five thirty four to go, the Steelers 133 00:07:45,640 --> 00:07:47,920 Speaker 1: a yard away from making it a seven point game. 134 00:07:47,960 --> 00:07:50,040 Speaker 1: They give it to Snell. He's into the end zone, 135 00:07:50,360 --> 00:07:54,160 Speaker 1: touchdown Pittsburgh. The lead was down to seven, and the 136 00:07:54,240 --> 00:07:56,800 Speaker 1: Bengals were only able to pick up one first down 137 00:07:56,920 --> 00:08:00,400 Speaker 1: on their next drive, punting the ball back to Pittsburgh 138 00:08:00,400 --> 00:08:04,680 Speaker 1: with two seventeen remaining from his own twenty four Roethlisberger 139 00:08:04,720 --> 00:08:09,920 Speaker 1: through incomplete to Smith Schuster, then incomplete to Johnson, then 140 00:08:10,080 --> 00:08:14,040 Speaker 1: incomplete to Claypool, making it fourth and ten with one 141 00:08:14,240 --> 00:08:17,200 Speaker 1: fifty six to go. The Bengal sending defenders up to 142 00:08:17,240 --> 00:08:20,400 Speaker 1: the line of scrimmage, showing blitz Jesse Bates playing deep 143 00:08:20,440 --> 00:08:22,960 Speaker 1: in the middle of the field. Roethlisberger back to throw 144 00:08:23,080 --> 00:08:31,000 Speaker 1: from the pocket his past two high incomplete coffinels Bam, bam, 145 00:08:31,160 --> 00:08:34,360 Speaker 1: how about that? Who would a fuck? That? Attack on 146 00:08:34,480 --> 00:08:37,480 Speaker 1: field goal by Cyberg with twelve seconds remaining made the 147 00:08:37,520 --> 00:08:44,040 Speaker 1: final score Cincinnati twenty seven, Pittsburgh seventeen. Here are Zach Taylor, 148 00:08:44,559 --> 00:08:49,160 Speaker 1: Ryan Finley, Von Bell and Giovanni Bernard on a memorable 149 00:08:49,360 --> 00:08:51,600 Speaker 1: Monday night. It's the resilion of the group. Has I've 150 00:08:51,640 --> 00:08:53,880 Speaker 1: ever been around, you know? They never stopped believing each other, 151 00:08:54,320 --> 00:08:57,240 Speaker 1: never stopped believing what we're asking to do. It showed 152 00:08:57,320 --> 00:09:01,000 Speaker 1: up on a huge stage tonight against divisional. Right, and 153 00:09:01,000 --> 00:09:03,200 Speaker 1: and again I just can't can't say enough how proud 154 00:09:03,280 --> 00:09:05,680 Speaker 1: I am of the coaches, the players, the staff, everybody 155 00:09:05,679 --> 00:09:08,600 Speaker 1: who's hunging there together. Here we are week week fifteen, 156 00:09:08,720 --> 00:09:11,600 Speaker 1: whatever it is, and um just what a great night 157 00:09:11,640 --> 00:09:15,120 Speaker 1: for those guys. You know, I'm obviously very happy, um, 158 00:09:15,160 --> 00:09:17,880 Speaker 1: but just happy for everyone involved. You know, just the 159 00:09:18,240 --> 00:09:21,720 Speaker 1: faces and the you know, the after the post game 160 00:09:21,800 --> 00:09:25,080 Speaker 1: locker room. Um, it's just you know, it's fun. We 161 00:09:25,160 --> 00:09:29,240 Speaker 1: haven't had too many post game locker rooms like that, uh, 162 00:09:29,280 --> 00:09:31,199 Speaker 1: you know as of recent and it's just fun. It's 163 00:09:31,200 --> 00:09:33,839 Speaker 1: always fun to get a win, and um, even better 164 00:09:33,960 --> 00:09:36,720 Speaker 1: beating the Steelers on Monday night. So just happy for 165 00:09:36,720 --> 00:09:40,040 Speaker 1: everyone involved. Really, it shows the world tonight. We played 166 00:09:40,040 --> 00:09:43,200 Speaker 1: with anybody. We played all phases of the game. We 167 00:09:43,320 --> 00:09:47,160 Speaker 1: played great team football, um uh, hand in hand football, 168 00:09:47,160 --> 00:09:50,480 Speaker 1: offs and defense, put them in position to make points 169 00:09:50,480 --> 00:09:53,120 Speaker 1: of plays, taking the ball away, just really have to 170 00:09:53,120 --> 00:09:55,800 Speaker 1: just let them loose, having fun, and then that's that's 171 00:09:55,800 --> 00:09:58,599 Speaker 1: one of my most complete games we played at the 172 00:09:58,640 --> 00:10:01,880 Speaker 1: highest level. So was gonna keep on building that, keep 173 00:10:01,880 --> 00:10:04,720 Speaker 1: going getting better to be able to beat a team 174 00:10:04,720 --> 00:10:06,200 Speaker 1: like that. We know they're a good team, they know 175 00:10:06,240 --> 00:10:08,000 Speaker 1: they're a good team. But you know, when you play 176 00:10:08,040 --> 00:10:10,880 Speaker 1: those divisional games, the records don't matter. It's about who 177 00:10:10,880 --> 00:10:13,720 Speaker 1: wants them more. And it just showed just the type 178 00:10:13,720 --> 00:10:15,600 Speaker 1: of mentality that we had going to the game. We 179 00:10:15,640 --> 00:10:18,440 Speaker 1: started off hot, you know, coming we started off hot, 180 00:10:18,480 --> 00:10:20,440 Speaker 1: come back after the second half, you know, we started 181 00:10:20,440 --> 00:10:23,280 Speaker 1: off so, but we continue to keep fighting. Man, I'm 182 00:10:23,280 --> 00:10:26,680 Speaker 1: just so thankful that I've been able to witness you know, 183 00:10:26,760 --> 00:10:29,200 Speaker 1: some of the guys make these plays, and you know, 184 00:10:29,320 --> 00:10:31,280 Speaker 1: just throughout this season, it's just been a tough year, 185 00:10:31,320 --> 00:10:35,199 Speaker 1: a tough road. But man, I'm just I'm just grateful 186 00:10:35,240 --> 00:10:36,560 Speaker 1: that I've been able to be a part of those 187 00:10:36,559 --> 00:10:38,959 Speaker 1: tough times, just because you know, when things like this happen, 188 00:10:39,320 --> 00:10:41,680 Speaker 1: it just feels that much sweeter. Now, time for postgame 189 00:10:41,720 --> 00:10:46,600 Speaker 1: analysis with my broadcast partner Dave Lapple. My point spread, 190 00:10:47,000 --> 00:10:50,600 Speaker 1: this is the Bengals biggest upset since you're playing days. 191 00:10:50,720 --> 00:10:53,679 Speaker 1: Back in nineteen eighty you were part of a Bengals 192 00:10:53,679 --> 00:10:56,120 Speaker 1: team that was a thirteen point underdog and beat the 193 00:10:56,160 --> 00:11:01,000 Speaker 1: Steelers in Pittsburgh seventeen sixteen tonight the angles of fourteen 194 00:11:01,040 --> 00:11:04,480 Speaker 1: point underdog and they beat Pittsburgh by ten. How did 195 00:11:04,480 --> 00:11:07,559 Speaker 1: they do it? Turnovers? And that was the secret to 196 00:11:07,600 --> 00:11:10,240 Speaker 1: beat in Pittsburgh anytime we beat them. I remember we 197 00:11:10,320 --> 00:11:13,520 Speaker 1: beat the Steelers another time handily, like thirty four to ten, 198 00:11:13,559 --> 00:11:17,360 Speaker 1: and they couldn't even execute a center quarterback exchange problem issue. 199 00:11:18,080 --> 00:11:21,600 Speaker 1: Mike Webster and Terry Brusch, two Hall of famers, couldn't 200 00:11:21,600 --> 00:11:24,000 Speaker 1: get the ball snapped. Wilson whitlerw was causing all kinds 201 00:11:24,000 --> 00:11:28,480 Speaker 1: of havoc in there when Ben fumbled Pouncy's snapping, thinking 202 00:11:29,040 --> 00:11:32,679 Speaker 1: two Pro bowlers, Man Carmer's kind of looking the same here. 203 00:11:32,679 --> 00:11:35,400 Speaker 1: I mean, they're having issues with the simplest things. And 204 00:11:35,840 --> 00:11:39,320 Speaker 1: turnovers were huge in this football game. You go plus three, 205 00:11:39,440 --> 00:11:42,160 Speaker 1: you're gonna win ninety five ninety seven percent of the time, 206 00:11:42,200 --> 00:11:44,840 Speaker 1: There's no doubt about it. In the first quarter, Ben 207 00:11:44,920 --> 00:11:50,320 Speaker 1: Roethlisberger was four for ten from minus five yards. How 208 00:11:51,760 --> 00:11:53,760 Speaker 1: good question. I mean, he wasn't even sacked, you know. 209 00:11:53,840 --> 00:11:58,920 Speaker 1: I mean, it's it's it's amazing that they were just 210 00:11:58,920 --> 00:12:03,160 Speaker 1: just avocating. I mean, the Bengals do. The Bengals basically 211 00:12:03,160 --> 00:12:05,960 Speaker 1: beat Pittsburgh at their own game. They ran the football 212 00:12:06,160 --> 00:12:08,280 Speaker 1: when Pittsburgh in the heyday would run the ball right 213 00:12:08,320 --> 00:12:11,319 Speaker 1: down your throat and then play suffocating defense, and whenever 214 00:12:11,400 --> 00:12:13,800 Speaker 1: you made a mistake, they pounce on it and they 215 00:12:13,840 --> 00:12:15,840 Speaker 1: make you pay, and they make you pay dearly, and 216 00:12:15,880 --> 00:12:20,120 Speaker 1: then you know, you get all, you know out of sorts. 217 00:12:20,160 --> 00:12:21,880 Speaker 1: And you make another mistake and then they make you 218 00:12:21,960 --> 00:12:24,360 Speaker 1: pay even worse. And that's that's what the Bengals did 219 00:12:24,400 --> 00:12:26,400 Speaker 1: to them tonight. They ran the ball down their throat, 220 00:12:26,440 --> 00:12:30,400 Speaker 1: They played suffocating defense at times, and every mistake that 221 00:12:30,480 --> 00:12:34,040 Speaker 1: Pittsburgh made, the Bengals really capitalize them made and pay 222 00:12:34,120 --> 00:12:40,600 Speaker 1: dearly for it offensively forty one rushing attempts and thirteen 223 00:12:41,080 --> 00:12:43,760 Speaker 1: pass attempts. It's nice to say you're going to do 224 00:12:43,840 --> 00:12:46,880 Speaker 1: something like that going into a game against the Steelers, 225 00:12:46,880 --> 00:12:50,120 Speaker 1: but to actually pull it off effectively, I did not 226 00:12:50,200 --> 00:12:54,839 Speaker 1: see that coming. It's funny. I was. I figured, Okay, 227 00:12:54,840 --> 00:12:57,320 Speaker 1: this is gonna have to be a dirty, grimy, bloody game, 228 00:12:57,559 --> 00:13:00,319 Speaker 1: you know, for the Bengals to have to be able 229 00:13:00,320 --> 00:13:04,720 Speaker 1: to compete. What I thought was as I was thinking 230 00:13:04,760 --> 00:13:07,160 Speaker 1: about the game this afternoon, had all day to think 231 00:13:07,200 --> 00:13:09,440 Speaker 1: about it, and and I'm like, all right, well, if the 232 00:13:09,480 --> 00:13:15,080 Speaker 1: Bengals can somehow incorporate a quarterback run package, maybe include 233 00:13:15,120 --> 00:13:17,040 Speaker 1: Hogan in it. Because Hogan had rushed for over one 234 00:13:17,080 --> 00:13:19,840 Speaker 1: hundred yards against the Bengals and he's averaging almost ten 235 00:13:19,880 --> 00:13:22,600 Speaker 1: yards to carry, you know, in his career, so you 236 00:13:22,640 --> 00:13:24,440 Speaker 1: know he can run the football a little bit and 237 00:13:24,440 --> 00:13:26,720 Speaker 1: he rushed for a touchdown against the Bengals, and I thought, well, 238 00:13:26,720 --> 00:13:29,480 Speaker 1: you know, maybe they'll do some kind of quarterback run 239 00:13:29,480 --> 00:13:33,480 Speaker 1: package kind of thing and and shrink the game, you know, 240 00:13:33,559 --> 00:13:36,000 Speaker 1: eat up the clock, get into the fourth quarter with 241 00:13:36,040 --> 00:13:38,880 Speaker 1: an opportunity to steal a football game. Was what I 242 00:13:38,920 --> 00:13:41,320 Speaker 1: was thinking. And you know, I said to my wife Lynns, 243 00:13:41,360 --> 00:13:43,079 Speaker 1: where as I was getting ready for the game, I said, 244 00:13:43,120 --> 00:13:45,560 Speaker 1: you know what if they can run it, and the 245 00:13:45,640 --> 00:13:48,319 Speaker 1: running backs, you know, rush for over one hundred and 246 00:13:48,360 --> 00:13:51,440 Speaker 1: the quarterback rushes for fifty or more, they got a 247 00:13:51,440 --> 00:13:55,000 Speaker 1: shot if they can you know, compress the game, eat 248 00:13:55,040 --> 00:13:57,720 Speaker 1: up the clock. You know, don't don't throw the ball 249 00:13:57,840 --> 00:14:00,800 Speaker 1: very much against this defensive front. I mean they're number 250 00:14:00,840 --> 00:14:03,520 Speaker 1: one in the league in sack sack differential, all that stuff. 251 00:14:03,920 --> 00:14:06,320 Speaker 1: You don't you don't want to get in second and 252 00:14:06,360 --> 00:14:08,360 Speaker 1: third and lungs against these guys and have to throw 253 00:14:08,400 --> 00:14:11,200 Speaker 1: the football. And so I was, you know, just thinking 254 00:14:11,200 --> 00:14:13,440 Speaker 1: along those lines, and be a son of a gun. 255 00:14:13,440 --> 00:14:15,680 Speaker 1: If Ryan Finley it doesn't turn into Lamar Finley. It 256 00:14:15,720 --> 00:14:19,360 Speaker 1: was crazy. He's out there doing zone reads and the 257 00:14:19,440 --> 00:14:23,520 Speaker 1: quarterback draw unbelievable design to run the jet. The jet 258 00:14:23,600 --> 00:14:26,560 Speaker 1: motion and the linebacker has to clear out of there 259 00:14:26,600 --> 00:14:29,840 Speaker 1: with him and just a design quarterback draw. And Ryan 260 00:14:29,880 --> 00:14:32,960 Speaker 1: Finley was saying that on his touchdown run, it wasn't 261 00:14:32,960 --> 00:14:35,600 Speaker 1: even anything they ran at practice. It was a run 262 00:14:35,640 --> 00:14:38,200 Speaker 1: play and Zach just put a tag on it, said, 263 00:14:38,240 --> 00:14:40,040 Speaker 1: you know, put a read on it at the end. 264 00:14:40,480 --> 00:14:42,120 Speaker 1: So all he did was look at high Smith. As 265 00:14:42,160 --> 00:14:43,920 Speaker 1: soon as you saw high Smith closing down the line 266 00:14:43,960 --> 00:14:46,320 Speaker 1: of Scramm pulled it out of there, walked into the 267 00:14:46,360 --> 00:14:50,400 Speaker 1: end zone untouched or to scored in one fingernail touch football. 268 00:14:50,480 --> 00:14:53,080 Speaker 1: Nobody laid anything on him. I mean, it was just incredible. 269 00:14:53,480 --> 00:14:55,400 Speaker 1: Got to give Zach a lot of credit for the 270 00:14:55,440 --> 00:14:59,400 Speaker 1: game plan, calling the game, improvising during the game, adjusting 271 00:14:59,480 --> 00:15:02,520 Speaker 1: during the game. He's been bombarded about that, where are 272 00:15:02,520 --> 00:15:04,960 Speaker 1: the adjustments? What are they doing when you hear things 273 00:15:04,960 --> 00:15:08,160 Speaker 1: like that that they made an adjustment like that as 274 00:15:08,160 --> 00:15:10,840 Speaker 1: he was calling the play, just put a little tag 275 00:15:10,880 --> 00:15:13,800 Speaker 1: on the thing. That's pretty strong. There are a lot 276 00:15:13,800 --> 00:15:16,000 Speaker 1: of defensive heroes in the game for the Bengals. Let's 277 00:15:16,000 --> 00:15:18,120 Speaker 1: start with Carl Lawson. He had a sack, He had 278 00:15:18,240 --> 00:15:21,600 Speaker 1: six quarterback hits. You've pointed out in the past that 279 00:15:21,800 --> 00:15:25,560 Speaker 1: villain Auava at his height, has a particular problem with 280 00:15:25,640 --> 00:15:29,600 Speaker 1: Carl Lawson. He does, you know, six eight and villain 281 00:15:29,640 --> 00:15:31,920 Speaker 1: Auava is a waiste bender. He's not a knee bender. 282 00:15:32,440 --> 00:15:36,600 Speaker 1: So when you're six to eight and you're you know, 283 00:15:36,920 --> 00:15:39,440 Speaker 1: the little teapot short and stout, you know, and just 284 00:15:39,480 --> 00:15:41,520 Speaker 1: bending over at the way instead of with the knees 285 00:15:41,560 --> 00:15:44,760 Speaker 1: when the little kids play. I mean, he's he's got 286 00:15:44,760 --> 00:15:47,760 Speaker 1: issues with that because then his shoulder pads are leaning forward. 287 00:15:47,840 --> 00:15:50,040 Speaker 1: Carl can you know, use his hands and pull some 288 00:15:50,120 --> 00:15:52,760 Speaker 1: moves on him, rip, swim, all those kind of things. 289 00:15:52,760 --> 00:15:56,680 Speaker 1: And Carl Lawson gives him fits he does, and you know, 290 00:15:56,800 --> 00:16:00,640 Speaker 1: villain Auava ends up kind of turning his older pads 291 00:16:00,680 --> 00:16:02,600 Speaker 1: toward the line of scrimmage parallel to the line of 292 00:16:02,600 --> 00:16:06,040 Speaker 1: scrimmage and then given a short edge. And Carl Lawson, 293 00:16:06,120 --> 00:16:08,360 Speaker 1: who's made him pay for that in the past, and 294 00:16:08,880 --> 00:16:10,920 Speaker 1: he was he was a thorn in Ben's side, There's 295 00:16:10,920 --> 00:16:14,000 Speaker 1: no doubt about it. I thought he gave very consistent pressure. 296 00:16:14,080 --> 00:16:16,960 Speaker 1: I thought Sam Harbard, Margus Hunt and a lot of 297 00:16:16,960 --> 00:16:19,640 Speaker 1: guys showed up in this football game for the Bengals 298 00:16:19,680 --> 00:16:22,080 Speaker 1: defensive front. They played as hard as they can play. 299 00:16:22,120 --> 00:16:26,120 Speaker 1: They definitely emptied the effort bucket for sure. The Bengals 300 00:16:26,160 --> 00:16:29,720 Speaker 1: also had ten pass deflections. I don't remember them ever 301 00:16:29,760 --> 00:16:31,960 Speaker 1: getting to double digits in that stat and it came 302 00:16:32,000 --> 00:16:35,240 Speaker 1: from every every level. You mentioned. Margus Hunt he knocked 303 00:16:35,280 --> 00:16:37,800 Speaker 1: one down at the line of scrimmage, George Evans had 304 00:16:37,800 --> 00:16:40,600 Speaker 1: when I think at the linebacker position, Darius Phillips had three, 305 00:16:40,720 --> 00:16:44,640 Speaker 1: Mackenzie Alexander had two. They were deflecting a ton of 306 00:16:44,720 --> 00:16:47,880 Speaker 1: Ben Roethlisberger's throws. Yeah, they did. William Jackson, you know, 307 00:16:47,960 --> 00:16:50,440 Speaker 1: got his hands and he should have had an interception. One. 308 00:16:50,480 --> 00:16:52,600 Speaker 1: He'll get a pass broken up, but I mean should 309 00:16:52,600 --> 00:16:54,920 Speaker 1: have been an interception, and then you know, a couple 310 00:16:54,920 --> 00:16:57,359 Speaker 1: of plays later he has the fourth down problem, the interference. 311 00:16:57,400 --> 00:16:59,720 Speaker 1: But Sam Hubbard got his hand on one as well, 312 00:17:00,160 --> 00:17:02,920 Speaker 1: you know, as well as Marcus so Um. They were 313 00:17:02,920 --> 00:17:06,040 Speaker 1: they were getting their hands on footballs and uh, you know, 314 00:17:06,200 --> 00:17:09,520 Speaker 1: I think they were. They were. The coverage was outstanding 315 00:17:09,880 --> 00:17:12,280 Speaker 1: and for on and off during the course of the game. 316 00:17:12,280 --> 00:17:14,639 Speaker 1: They were really in Ben's head, I mean more so 317 00:17:14,720 --> 00:17:17,080 Speaker 1: than I've seen in a long time. It was. He 318 00:17:17,160 --> 00:17:19,919 Speaker 1: was definitely bothered by what they were doing. I'm not 319 00:17:19,960 --> 00:17:22,919 Speaker 1: sure that he was confused, but I think it was 320 00:17:22,960 --> 00:17:25,600 Speaker 1: like wow, I mean, there's just like fly paper. I mean, 321 00:17:25,680 --> 00:17:28,879 Speaker 1: they're suffocating us, man, They're smothering us down the football field. 322 00:17:29,000 --> 00:17:31,520 Speaker 1: I have nowhere to go with the football. And that's 323 00:17:31,600 --> 00:17:36,520 Speaker 1: that's that's not typical Steeler action there. I have no 324 00:17:36,600 --> 00:17:40,560 Speaker 1: idea what Mike Brown has been thinking about Zach Taylor's 325 00:17:40,640 --> 00:17:44,639 Speaker 1: long term future. But do you think if there was 326 00:17:44,920 --> 00:17:48,800 Speaker 1: any inkling of making a change, that his mind might 327 00:17:48,840 --> 00:17:52,080 Speaker 1: have been changed tonight? I mean, you look at it. 328 00:17:52,240 --> 00:17:56,719 Speaker 1: You look at a scenario like tonight against an organization 329 00:17:57,000 --> 00:18:02,520 Speaker 1: that is, you know, the the gold standard of professional football. 330 00:18:02,960 --> 00:18:04,879 Speaker 1: You've lost eleven in a row to him, it's on 331 00:18:05,000 --> 00:18:09,080 Speaker 1: national television. It could have been a total embarrassment. I 332 00:18:09,080 --> 00:18:11,639 Speaker 1: mean last last week's Monday night football game was an 333 00:18:11,640 --> 00:18:16,919 Speaker 1: instant classic. This one had the makings of being forgettable 334 00:18:17,200 --> 00:18:20,000 Speaker 1: immediately kind of football game. And for them to play 335 00:18:20,080 --> 00:18:22,159 Speaker 1: like they did, I think it does mean something to 336 00:18:22,240 --> 00:18:26,439 Speaker 1: Mike Brown on national television, and you know, in the 337 00:18:26,480 --> 00:18:29,919 Speaker 1: restroom at halftime, Steve Leapy was like, I can't believe this. 338 00:18:30,359 --> 00:18:32,359 Speaker 1: You know, that's why you don't bet on these games. 339 00:18:32,640 --> 00:18:35,600 Speaker 1: All my stuff, I have for I can't use. All 340 00:18:35,600 --> 00:18:37,800 Speaker 1: he had was Pittsburgh stuff in the second half of steven, 341 00:18:37,840 --> 00:18:40,520 Speaker 1: you know, and it's all understandable, but I mean everybody 342 00:18:40,600 --> 00:18:43,399 Speaker 1: was stunned. I mean all the media guys, national, local 343 00:18:43,520 --> 00:18:46,480 Speaker 1: or whatever there. Everybody was stunned. And I mean me too. 344 00:18:46,520 --> 00:18:48,960 Speaker 1: There's no way, but I thought the Cincinnati Bengal was 345 00:18:49,000 --> 00:18:51,199 Speaker 1: going to hang twenty seven points on the Pittsburgh Steelers 346 00:18:51,200 --> 00:18:53,640 Speaker 1: in this football game. I thought they won. It would 347 00:18:53,680 --> 00:18:57,800 Speaker 1: be like fourteen ten, seventeen, fourteen, you know, but it was. 348 00:18:58,720 --> 00:19:01,840 Speaker 1: It was a very very good football game that they 349 00:19:01,880 --> 00:19:05,040 Speaker 1: get short fields on some of those turnovers, took advantage 350 00:19:05,040 --> 00:19:09,560 Speaker 1: and get points out of it again kind of reverse 351 00:19:09,640 --> 00:19:12,960 Speaker 1: the flip the script on Pittsburgh. Pittsburgh makes you pay 352 00:19:13,080 --> 00:19:16,240 Speaker 1: for every turnover. They just make you pay. Dearly Bengals 353 00:19:16,240 --> 00:19:18,680 Speaker 1: did it to the Pittsburgh Steelers. And you know, there 354 00:19:18,720 --> 00:19:20,800 Speaker 1: was a lull there in the third quarter, Dan three 355 00:19:20,800 --> 00:19:22,440 Speaker 1: to three and outs. They go third and eight, three 356 00:19:22,480 --> 00:19:25,119 Speaker 1: straight possession like a little boy, now is there going 357 00:19:25,200 --> 00:19:28,840 Speaker 1: to be you know, enough time for Pittsburgh to make 358 00:19:28,840 --> 00:19:31,600 Speaker 1: the complete comeback. And then the Bengals, you know, snap 359 00:19:31,600 --> 00:19:34,360 Speaker 1: out of it and make plays and win the football 360 00:19:34,400 --> 00:19:37,359 Speaker 1: game going away, pretty pretty impressive. Well, they didn't want 361 00:19:37,400 --> 00:19:39,159 Speaker 1: to score in the third quarter, now, you know, the 362 00:19:39,200 --> 00:19:41,840 Speaker 1: Bengals don't like to do that. Yeah, that's right. I mean, 363 00:19:42,520 --> 00:19:46,359 Speaker 1: you're right about that. It's it's just incredible. What what 364 00:19:46,359 --> 00:19:49,040 Speaker 1: what happens in the third quarter? It is, it's it's 365 00:19:49,080 --> 00:19:52,479 Speaker 1: just it's beyond mind boggling. I'll tell you though. When 366 00:19:52,480 --> 00:19:54,399 Speaker 1: Pittsburgh came out with the formation they came out with 367 00:19:54,440 --> 00:19:56,119 Speaker 1: and spread the field as far as they could with 368 00:19:56,119 --> 00:19:58,199 Speaker 1: two wide receivers lined up behind each other in like 369 00:19:58,240 --> 00:20:02,440 Speaker 1: double life formations, almost in front of each football team's bench. Boy, 370 00:20:02,480 --> 00:20:04,520 Speaker 1: that's a big adjustment and it worked. I mean, they 371 00:20:05,720 --> 00:20:08,320 Speaker 1: big play by Claypool and then Ben throws a touchdown 372 00:20:08,320 --> 00:20:10,240 Speaker 1: past the very next snap, and I'm thinking, oh boy, 373 00:20:10,760 --> 00:20:12,399 Speaker 1: I wonder what else they have up their sleep. But 374 00:20:12,440 --> 00:20:14,480 Speaker 1: that was something that you just you run at once, 375 00:20:14,520 --> 00:20:16,840 Speaker 1: and it wasn't really a gadget play, but it was 376 00:20:16,880 --> 00:20:19,600 Speaker 1: a different look formation. You can make quick adjustments to it. 377 00:20:19,640 --> 00:20:22,520 Speaker 1: But I thought for the most part, you know, you 378 00:20:22,600 --> 00:20:25,000 Speaker 1: hear all the time, oh the Bengals, man, you know, 379 00:20:25,040 --> 00:20:27,880 Speaker 1: they've had halftime leads. But then the other team adjusted 380 00:20:27,920 --> 00:20:31,040 Speaker 1: the Bengals never adjust well. I thought in this instance, 381 00:20:31,080 --> 00:20:34,440 Speaker 1: they adjusted to adjustments and the whole thing, the whole 382 00:20:34,480 --> 00:20:37,920 Speaker 1: thing panned out. Let's talk about the other side from 383 00:20:37,920 --> 00:20:41,240 Speaker 1: eleven and ozero to eleven and three and if you 384 00:20:41,320 --> 00:20:44,320 Speaker 1: go back to win number eleven, that was the Baltimore 385 00:20:44,359 --> 00:20:47,800 Speaker 1: game where I think it was twelve guys for Baltimore. 386 00:20:47,880 --> 00:20:51,240 Speaker 1: We're out with COVID, including seven Pro Bowlers. The Steelers 387 00:20:51,240 --> 00:20:54,520 Speaker 1: struggle to win that game. They haven't scored twenty points 388 00:20:54,560 --> 00:20:59,280 Speaker 1: now in any of their last four games. Are the 389 00:20:59,320 --> 00:21:03,120 Speaker 1: Steelers limping to the finish line? I mean, their their 390 00:21:03,160 --> 00:21:07,480 Speaker 1: offense looks so different, and everybody's realizing that they are 391 00:21:07,680 --> 00:21:10,479 Speaker 1: going to the short intermediate east and west stuff, and 392 00:21:10,520 --> 00:21:14,720 Speaker 1: they're aligning their coverages and and crowding. You know, they're 393 00:21:14,880 --> 00:21:18,480 Speaker 1: making Pittsburgh playing a closet and it's it's interesting to watch. 394 00:21:18,560 --> 00:21:20,919 Speaker 1: And I thought right away when Pittsburgh came out and 395 00:21:20,960 --> 00:21:23,240 Speaker 1: Ben rolled out and went deep, they were trying to 396 00:21:23,240 --> 00:21:25,280 Speaker 1: make a statement, Okay, this we're not doing that tonight. 397 00:21:25,359 --> 00:21:27,400 Speaker 1: You know, you're gonna have to make some adjustments here. 398 00:21:27,680 --> 00:21:30,280 Speaker 1: But Ben was not even close and the coverage was good, 399 00:21:30,280 --> 00:21:33,880 Speaker 1: so that wasn't a panic type scenario, and they did try, 400 00:21:35,080 --> 00:21:37,640 Speaker 1: not even a handful of deep balls through the rest 401 00:21:37,640 --> 00:21:41,000 Speaker 1: of the game. And uh lou and Umu was persistent 402 00:21:41,480 --> 00:21:43,639 Speaker 1: and staying with what he thought was going to be 403 00:21:43,680 --> 00:21:46,720 Speaker 1: the right the right kind of configuration the schematic for 404 00:21:46,800 --> 00:21:49,280 Speaker 1: the night, and it paid big, big dividends. Yeah, I 405 00:21:49,280 --> 00:21:53,160 Speaker 1: think they're there. They are limping and uh uh yeah, 406 00:21:53,359 --> 00:21:58,560 Speaker 1: it's they just offensively, it looks like they're really really 407 00:21:58,600 --> 00:22:01,800 Speaker 1: struggling to get it figured out. It really does. So 408 00:22:01,840 --> 00:22:04,640 Speaker 1: there's a guy known as Bengal Boy who always does 409 00:22:04,680 --> 00:22:07,120 Speaker 1: the great banner on the opposite side of the stadium 410 00:22:07,160 --> 00:22:11,960 Speaker 1: from our broadcast booth. The banner tonight says Panay for 411 00:22:12,160 --> 00:22:15,440 Speaker 1: your thoughts, a reference to Panay Sewell, the great offensive 412 00:22:15,440 --> 00:22:18,679 Speaker 1: line prospect out of Oregon. The great thing about this 413 00:22:18,800 --> 00:22:20,879 Speaker 1: victory is that it doesn't drop the Bengals in the 414 00:22:20,960 --> 00:22:24,560 Speaker 1: draft order. There's still third, the Jets falling from one 415 00:22:24,600 --> 00:22:27,800 Speaker 1: to two after they shocked the Rams on Sunday, an 416 00:22:27,800 --> 00:22:31,200 Speaker 1: Owen thirteen team beating a nine and four team. So 417 00:22:31,320 --> 00:22:33,920 Speaker 1: Jacksonville has the first pick, the Jets have the second pick, 418 00:22:33,960 --> 00:22:36,600 Speaker 1: the Bengals have the third. But now there's a chance 419 00:22:37,119 --> 00:22:39,720 Speaker 1: if the Bengals win again, that they would fall out 420 00:22:39,720 --> 00:22:44,919 Speaker 1: of the third spot. Carolina, Atlanta, Houston and Philadelphia have 421 00:22:45,040 --> 00:22:48,040 Speaker 1: four wins. The Bengals now three ten and one. Yeah, 422 00:22:48,119 --> 00:22:50,400 Speaker 1: that's what people are already. I've already gotten a bunch 423 00:22:50,440 --> 00:22:52,680 Speaker 1: of texts. They could go to number seven, they could 424 00:22:52,720 --> 00:22:54,600 Speaker 1: drop to number seven. What are they thinking? You know? 425 00:22:54,680 --> 00:22:58,280 Speaker 1: And it's like, well, you know whatever, you know, maybe 426 00:22:58,320 --> 00:23:01,080 Speaker 1: they can still get a good offensive lineman or a 427 00:23:01,119 --> 00:23:04,240 Speaker 1: defensive lineman or whatever the case may be with that 428 00:23:04,440 --> 00:23:06,520 Speaker 1: with that seventh pick in the draft. But when you 429 00:23:06,560 --> 00:23:10,520 Speaker 1: look at it, Dan, it's like, they beat Tennessee and 430 00:23:10,600 --> 00:23:14,240 Speaker 1: they beat Pittsburgh here at Paul Brown Stadium, two playoff teams, 431 00:23:14,440 --> 00:23:18,960 Speaker 1: two teams that have given other people, you know, difficult time. 432 00:23:19,000 --> 00:23:21,120 Speaker 1: Now Pittsburgh's in a little bit of a lull. There's 433 00:23:21,160 --> 00:23:24,000 Speaker 1: no question they're not, you know they I don't think 434 00:23:24,080 --> 00:23:28,240 Speaker 1: they really were a dominant eleven and old football team anyway, 435 00:23:28,480 --> 00:23:31,040 Speaker 1: And now reality is kind of creeping back in. They 436 00:23:31,040 --> 00:23:33,760 Speaker 1: could finish eleven and five. I mean, they've got they've 437 00:23:33,760 --> 00:23:36,439 Speaker 1: got two two good opponents left. They got Indianapolis and 438 00:23:36,440 --> 00:23:39,359 Speaker 1: they have Cleveland. There's no no gimmes there. Both of 439 00:23:39,400 --> 00:23:41,960 Speaker 1: those teams are fighting for playoff positioning as well in 440 00:23:42,080 --> 00:23:44,760 Speaker 1: seeds and all that, So that would be an interesting 441 00:23:45,280 --> 00:23:47,520 Speaker 1: dynamic to go eleven and O and then oh and five. 442 00:23:47,800 --> 00:23:51,240 Speaker 1: That would be a tail of two two seasons in 443 00:23:51,359 --> 00:23:56,959 Speaker 1: one there. But yeah, I mean to me, uh, if 444 00:23:57,080 --> 00:23:59,800 Speaker 1: if you're if you're out there playing football and you're 445 00:23:59,800 --> 00:24:02,800 Speaker 1: all they're a coaching football, it is so foreign to 446 00:24:02,880 --> 00:24:05,600 Speaker 1: say we're gonna lose this because we want to get 447 00:24:05,640 --> 00:24:08,680 Speaker 1: an offensive tackle. Who may be great, who may be 448 00:24:09,160 --> 00:24:12,240 Speaker 1: not as great, who may get hurt, who may get whatever. 449 00:24:12,480 --> 00:24:15,000 Speaker 1: All you're trying to do is keep your damn job. 450 00:24:15,560 --> 00:24:18,200 Speaker 1: And it's a competitive world out there. You know. When 451 00:24:18,240 --> 00:24:20,359 Speaker 1: I was a player, I didn't give a damn with 452 00:24:20,640 --> 00:24:23,720 Speaker 1: fans thought about draft picks, you know. And I mean 453 00:24:23,760 --> 00:24:26,480 Speaker 1: it was like you're just trying to survive, man, I mean, 454 00:24:26,520 --> 00:24:29,040 Speaker 1: that's that's that's all there is to it. And it's 455 00:24:29,040 --> 00:24:31,280 Speaker 1: easy for somebody from the outside looking in say, oh, 456 00:24:31,400 --> 00:24:32,960 Speaker 1: you know, what are you what are you doing? You 457 00:24:32,960 --> 00:24:36,480 Speaker 1: can position yourself for this net hell, bro, this is 458 00:24:36,520 --> 00:24:39,080 Speaker 1: like dog fight time. It's like survival of the fittest. 459 00:24:39,119 --> 00:24:42,240 Speaker 1: It's Darwinism at its finest. You're just trying to survive 460 00:24:42,320 --> 00:24:46,399 Speaker 1: and advance for another week. You're not worried about, you know, 461 00:24:46,560 --> 00:24:48,639 Speaker 1: draft picks and free agency and all that stuff that 462 00:24:48,720 --> 00:24:50,840 Speaker 1: isn't even come close to enter in your mind yet 463 00:24:50,840 --> 00:24:53,080 Speaker 1: if you're a player or a coach. I'm reminded a 464 00:24:53,119 --> 00:24:55,040 Speaker 1: little bit of two thousand and eight. The Bengals were 465 00:24:55,080 --> 00:24:57,480 Speaker 1: won eleven and one with three games to go. They 466 00:24:57,520 --> 00:25:01,040 Speaker 1: won the last three, built some moment, then won the division. 467 00:25:01,040 --> 00:25:02,680 Speaker 1: In two thousand and nine, I'm not going to say 468 00:25:02,720 --> 00:25:04,639 Speaker 1: that I'm not about to say that that's going to happen, 469 00:25:04,720 --> 00:25:06,800 Speaker 1: But the point I want to make is they were 470 00:25:06,800 --> 00:25:09,760 Speaker 1: one eleven and one, they won their last three, they 471 00:25:09,840 --> 00:25:11,800 Speaker 1: dropped in the draft order. They could have had the 472 00:25:11,840 --> 00:25:14,639 Speaker 1: second pick, they fell to the sixth, wound up taking 473 00:25:14,640 --> 00:25:18,760 Speaker 1: Andre Smith. The five guys that were taken ahead of them, 474 00:25:19,080 --> 00:25:23,120 Speaker 1: Matthew Stafford went number one overall. He's had a good career. 475 00:25:23,480 --> 00:25:27,120 Speaker 1: You couldn't even name picks two, three, four and five. 476 00:25:27,240 --> 00:25:29,520 Speaker 1: I'm sure at the time they all seemed like they 477 00:25:29,560 --> 00:25:32,040 Speaker 1: were going to be ten time Pro Bowlers. None of 478 00:25:32,040 --> 00:25:35,760 Speaker 1: those guys between Matthew Stafford and Andre Smith did a thing. 479 00:25:36,040 --> 00:25:38,800 Speaker 1: No I agree. I mean, the draft is an imperfect science, 480 00:25:38,840 --> 00:25:44,120 Speaker 1: to say the least. But this guy, Cane Sewell, looks 481 00:25:44,119 --> 00:25:47,240 Speaker 1: like he's he's about as scientifically a perfect as you 482 00:25:47,240 --> 00:25:48,920 Speaker 1: can be. I mean, the guy, the guy is a freak. 483 00:25:49,000 --> 00:25:52,280 Speaker 1: It's it's almost like a can't miss you know, can't 484 00:25:52,320 --> 00:25:55,359 Speaker 1: miss target on him. But I've seen offensive lineman as 485 00:25:55,359 --> 00:25:59,240 Speaker 1: they thought, look at Mandridge already thought, you know, I mean, 486 00:26:00,240 --> 00:26:03,240 Speaker 1: so you win some, you lose some, and uh, and 487 00:26:03,640 --> 00:26:05,960 Speaker 1: that's the way it goes in terms of the draft. 488 00:26:06,040 --> 00:26:10,000 Speaker 1: But um, it's just it's it's great to get that 489 00:26:10,440 --> 00:26:14,640 Speaker 1: the Pittsburgh Steeler weight off your shoulders, you know, get 490 00:26:14,680 --> 00:26:16,440 Speaker 1: it off your back. I mean that that thing was 491 00:26:16,480 --> 00:26:20,000 Speaker 1: starting to get i mean too heavy. It was almost 492 00:26:20,240 --> 00:26:24,040 Speaker 1: almost unbearable. And I can't imagine how happy that locker 493 00:26:24,080 --> 00:26:27,200 Speaker 1: room was. I mean I remember, you know, I remember 494 00:26:27,240 --> 00:26:30,879 Speaker 1: locker room celebrations. I mean the biggest locker room celebration 495 00:26:30,960 --> 00:26:33,040 Speaker 1: that it'll always be in my mind. Obviously, it was 496 00:26:33,080 --> 00:26:35,480 Speaker 1: the out of the Freezer Bowl when we beat the 497 00:26:35,560 --> 00:26:37,439 Speaker 1: Chargers going to the Super Bowl, and I was like, 498 00:26:37,560 --> 00:26:41,520 Speaker 1: I you know, it was like a dream. It's like 499 00:26:41,560 --> 00:26:45,600 Speaker 1: this can't be happening. Plus I was frozen stiff every everybody. 500 00:26:45,640 --> 00:26:48,480 Speaker 1: Everybody was like a popsicle trying to thaw out. But 501 00:26:48,800 --> 00:26:50,400 Speaker 1: so there were there are a lot of things going 502 00:26:50,440 --> 00:26:55,600 Speaker 1: on there um, but yeah, that it. There's like Tiger 503 00:26:55,920 --> 00:26:58,560 Speaker 1: Tiger Johnson said to me one time, he said, you know, 504 00:26:58,680 --> 00:27:01,680 Speaker 1: do this as long as you can, because you're never 505 00:27:01,720 --> 00:27:06,080 Speaker 1: ever going to have feelings in any other occupation in 506 00:27:06,119 --> 00:27:08,120 Speaker 1: the world than you're going to have in this one. 507 00:27:08,560 --> 00:27:12,919 Speaker 1: The friendships, the enemies, the hate, the love, the physicality, 508 00:27:14,080 --> 00:27:16,680 Speaker 1: he said, on a day to day basis. Man, he said, 509 00:27:16,720 --> 00:27:18,680 Speaker 1: it's it's a heck of a ride, and you got 510 00:27:18,680 --> 00:27:20,440 Speaker 1: to think about doing it as long as you can. 511 00:27:20,800 --> 00:27:23,360 Speaker 1: And he was right. Old Tiger was right, man. It's 512 00:27:23,440 --> 00:27:27,760 Speaker 1: it's unbelievable. Christmas came four days early. Christmas came four 513 00:27:27,840 --> 00:27:34,960 Speaker 1: days early. Ben oh ho ho Ben Up. Next, the 514 00:27:35,040 --> 00:27:37,640 Speaker 1: final road game of the year is the Bengals head 515 00:27:37,640 --> 00:27:40,800 Speaker 1: to Houston to face the Texans. Houston is four and 516 00:27:40,920 --> 00:27:44,520 Speaker 1: ten after a seven point loss to the Colts on Sunday. 517 00:27:44,840 --> 00:27:47,879 Speaker 1: The Texans have one eight of the last nine meetings 518 00:27:47,920 --> 00:27:51,800 Speaker 1: with the Bengals, including a pair of playoff wins. The 519 00:27:51,840 --> 00:27:55,400 Speaker 1: Bengals Booth Podcast is presented by bud Light Seltzer. It's 520 00:27:55,520 --> 00:27:59,120 Speaker 1: light and refreshing with a hint of fruit flavor. Now 521 00:27:59,200 --> 00:28:01,520 Speaker 1: time for this week's fun Facts segment, where you get 522 00:28:01,560 --> 00:28:04,639 Speaker 1: to know the person under the pads. Time for some 523 00:28:04,720 --> 00:28:09,840 Speaker 1: fun facts with linebacker Josh Bines, a native of Fort Lauderdale, Florida. 524 00:28:10,160 --> 00:28:13,240 Speaker 1: Was football always your sport or were you one of 525 00:28:13,240 --> 00:28:16,960 Speaker 1: these guys who was a standout and everything you ever? Did? 526 00:28:17,400 --> 00:28:21,000 Speaker 1: You know, I'm gonna standout and everything I did? Actually, 527 00:28:21,720 --> 00:28:24,960 Speaker 1: I was actually really good in basketball, and also I 528 00:28:25,119 --> 00:28:27,639 Speaker 1: ran track in high school as well, so I was, 529 00:28:27,800 --> 00:28:30,119 Speaker 1: you know, a multiport athlete for sure, and that was 530 00:28:30,160 --> 00:28:34,080 Speaker 1: pretty decent in all of them. Your grandfather was a linebacker, 531 00:28:34,560 --> 00:28:38,760 Speaker 1: Your dad was a linebacker. Did you have an understanding 532 00:28:38,800 --> 00:28:41,240 Speaker 1: of xs and o's at a really early age as 533 00:28:41,240 --> 00:28:44,880 Speaker 1: a result, Yeah, I would definitely say so. My dad 534 00:28:45,040 --> 00:28:47,640 Speaker 1: was very pivotal in that point in my life, especially 535 00:28:47,680 --> 00:28:50,360 Speaker 1: as I got older into high school and linebacker was 536 00:28:50,360 --> 00:28:54,240 Speaker 1: definitely my position. He definitely took the time and talk 537 00:28:54,320 --> 00:28:56,760 Speaker 1: to me about simple things, especially talking about just the 538 00:28:56,800 --> 00:29:00,640 Speaker 1: simplest controlling a defense, being that leader and a lot 539 00:29:00,640 --> 00:29:02,719 Speaker 1: of those things obviously was natural to me, but just 540 00:29:03,120 --> 00:29:05,640 Speaker 1: the simple things about playing the position and how to 541 00:29:05,720 --> 00:29:08,920 Speaker 1: see and had the vision and when you back there. 542 00:29:09,120 --> 00:29:11,719 Speaker 1: And my dad was very pivotal, you know, in that 543 00:29:11,760 --> 00:29:14,200 Speaker 1: time frame of my life, and obviously I took some 544 00:29:14,280 --> 00:29:16,440 Speaker 1: of what he taught me and ran with it along 545 00:29:16,480 --> 00:29:19,120 Speaker 1: the way into the NFL. We're doing fun facts with 546 00:29:19,240 --> 00:29:22,040 Speaker 1: Josh Bines. You are a highly talented recruit. Did you 547 00:29:22,160 --> 00:29:25,920 Speaker 1: enjoy the attention and do you have a great recruiting story. 548 00:29:26,240 --> 00:29:29,200 Speaker 1: I don't know if I have a great recruiting story 549 00:29:29,960 --> 00:29:32,040 Speaker 1: per se, but it was a lot, you know. I 550 00:29:32,080 --> 00:29:34,840 Speaker 1: honestly was just playing football because I loved it. And 551 00:29:35,120 --> 00:29:36,840 Speaker 1: my brother was a really good quarterback, so he was 552 00:29:36,840 --> 00:29:39,479 Speaker 1: getting recruited a year before. And I've seen all the recruits, 553 00:29:39,880 --> 00:29:42,120 Speaker 1: the coaches and everybody coming to the house to bring 554 00:29:42,200 --> 00:29:46,760 Speaker 1: him to the schools, you know, the Louisville, Florida, any 555 00:29:47,040 --> 00:29:49,480 Speaker 1: school you can name, and and of course, you know, 556 00:29:49,520 --> 00:29:51,400 Speaker 1: I'm sitting there in my mind like, you know, hopefully 557 00:29:51,440 --> 00:29:53,200 Speaker 1: it's like that for me. Yeah, it's my big brother 558 00:29:53,240 --> 00:29:55,120 Speaker 1: going through. I'm hope it's like that. And then I 559 00:29:55,240 --> 00:29:58,240 Speaker 1: ended up ended up turning out to be like crazy, 560 00:29:59,160 --> 00:30:01,520 Speaker 1: like I had coaches every week, my phone blow up. 561 00:30:02,080 --> 00:30:04,440 Speaker 1: Um one thing I do remember vividly. It's just coming 562 00:30:04,560 --> 00:30:07,200 Speaker 1: thinking about this now is closer to call all kinds 563 00:30:07,240 --> 00:30:09,320 Speaker 1: of times of the night, and my mom, of course 564 00:30:09,360 --> 00:30:12,360 Speaker 1: we're sleep and my mama answered the phone and she 565 00:30:12,600 --> 00:30:14,520 Speaker 1: was just yelling like, don't call my house this lad, 566 00:30:14,920 --> 00:30:17,080 Speaker 1: it's too late. He's sleep. He got school tomorrow and 567 00:30:17,240 --> 00:30:20,840 Speaker 1: hangled the paul because it was it was like it 568 00:30:20,920 --> 00:30:23,200 Speaker 1: was a lie. It was like literally, recruiting was two 569 00:30:23,240 --> 00:30:27,360 Speaker 1: times crazier from my brother went to me because my 570 00:30:27,400 --> 00:30:31,760 Speaker 1: recruiting level was about higher. So you chose Auburn. You 571 00:30:31,800 --> 00:30:34,880 Speaker 1: were recruited by an assistant coach named Eddie Grant who's 572 00:30:34,920 --> 00:30:38,160 Speaker 1: now the offensive coordinator at the University of Kentucky, and 573 00:30:38,280 --> 00:30:41,040 Speaker 1: your head coach when you signed with Auburn is about 574 00:30:41,040 --> 00:30:45,560 Speaker 1: to become a US senator, Tommy Tubberville Ille. What was 575 00:30:45,600 --> 00:30:49,120 Speaker 1: your reaction to seeing coach tubs run for and win 576 00:30:49,480 --> 00:30:52,800 Speaker 1: a Senate seat. I don't know. I just couldn't believe 577 00:30:52,800 --> 00:30:55,400 Speaker 1: it when I seen it on Twitter and online and stuff, 578 00:30:55,440 --> 00:30:57,320 Speaker 1: and I was like, Tommy Tuberville is going up a senator? 579 00:30:57,400 --> 00:31:01,240 Speaker 1: What is going on? I just remember him being my coach. 580 00:31:01,840 --> 00:31:04,120 Speaker 1: What thirteen years ago when I first came to Auburn. 581 00:31:04,520 --> 00:31:09,760 Speaker 1: Now he's the Senator of Alabama. That's crazy. We're doing 582 00:31:09,800 --> 00:31:12,320 Speaker 1: fun facts with Josh Bines. While you were at Auburn, 583 00:31:12,400 --> 00:31:15,959 Speaker 1: you met a volleyball player named Brianna Johnson who became 584 00:31:16,120 --> 00:31:19,760 Speaker 1: your wife. How did the romance begin? Oh, my gods, 585 00:31:19,760 --> 00:31:22,440 Speaker 1: the romance. It was just that was my best friend 586 00:31:22,480 --> 00:31:26,040 Speaker 1: honestly in college. We hung out every single day from 587 00:31:26,120 --> 00:31:28,360 Speaker 1: day one. She was literally one of the first couple 588 00:31:28,360 --> 00:31:32,320 Speaker 1: people I met on campus, and that summer before the 589 00:31:33,000 --> 00:31:36,520 Speaker 1: summer of two thousand and seven, and just we became 590 00:31:36,640 --> 00:31:39,760 Speaker 1: close and we stayed close throughout those whole the entire 591 00:31:40,080 --> 00:31:42,120 Speaker 1: you know, Tim, we was in Auburn and all of 592 00:31:42,160 --> 00:31:44,360 Speaker 1: a sudden, you know, we just I was like, hey, 593 00:31:44,440 --> 00:31:46,880 Speaker 1: you know, you know, can we make this work as 594 00:31:47,080 --> 00:31:50,080 Speaker 1: you know, me and you? And obviously we did at 595 00:31:50,080 --> 00:31:52,600 Speaker 1: this point and we've been married now six over six 596 00:31:52,720 --> 00:31:55,960 Speaker 1: years now, and that's the best decision, definitely I ever made. 597 00:31:56,600 --> 00:32:02,680 Speaker 1: You have three sons, they have athletic DNA. Yes, I 598 00:32:02,760 --> 00:32:05,400 Speaker 1: got three boys, one is ten five and a nine 599 00:32:05,440 --> 00:32:09,520 Speaker 1: month old right now, and yes, my boys there there 600 00:32:09,600 --> 00:32:12,080 Speaker 1: everything to me and they right now, my older son's 601 00:32:12,080 --> 00:32:15,320 Speaker 1: playing baseball. Actually, both my boys are are doing baseball, 602 00:32:15,360 --> 00:32:18,640 Speaker 1: and and obviously if it wasn't COVID right now, I'm old, 603 00:32:18,680 --> 00:32:20,880 Speaker 1: it is probably doing football this fall. But hopefully we 604 00:32:20,920 --> 00:32:23,120 Speaker 1: get through that and he can get back to that. 605 00:32:23,200 --> 00:32:26,160 Speaker 1: And he played basketball as well, so they have definitely 606 00:32:26,200 --> 00:32:29,560 Speaker 1: have some athletic DNA to live live after. But I'm 607 00:32:29,560 --> 00:32:32,000 Speaker 1: just happy to whatever they decide to do, I'm all 608 00:32:32,040 --> 00:32:34,760 Speaker 1: for it. Josh, you had a great career at Auburn. 609 00:32:35,000 --> 00:32:38,800 Speaker 1: You earned all SEC honors, and yet you weren't drafted. 610 00:32:39,280 --> 00:32:41,760 Speaker 1: How much did that hurt? It was tough for me. 611 00:32:42,000 --> 00:32:44,239 Speaker 1: It was hard because you know, I feel like, um, 612 00:32:44,960 --> 00:32:47,680 Speaker 1: my junior year, I was definitely um, you know, in 613 00:32:47,680 --> 00:32:50,160 Speaker 1: a position to be drafted, and I thought about leaving earlier. 614 00:32:50,160 --> 00:32:55,000 Speaker 1: My junior year I went undrafted, and and it just, 615 00:32:55,320 --> 00:32:57,160 Speaker 1: you know, it should propelled me to mentally just go 616 00:32:57,200 --> 00:32:58,280 Speaker 1: out there and just do what I have to do 617 00:32:58,320 --> 00:33:01,200 Speaker 1: to survive and make a team, especially in Baltimore. I 618 00:33:01,320 --> 00:33:03,640 Speaker 1: was the biggest goal, was just trying to prove myself 619 00:33:03,640 --> 00:33:06,000 Speaker 1: that belong in this league and prove that, you know, 620 00:33:06,040 --> 00:33:07,800 Speaker 1: I could play this game for a long period of time. 621 00:33:08,280 --> 00:33:10,720 Speaker 1: We're chatting with Josh Bines. So you did sign with 622 00:33:10,760 --> 00:33:13,080 Speaker 1: the Ravens as a college free agent. They let you 623 00:33:13,120 --> 00:33:14,880 Speaker 1: go at the end of training camp before putting it 624 00:33:14,960 --> 00:33:17,560 Speaker 1: on the practice squad. But that didn't happen for a 625 00:33:17,560 --> 00:33:21,760 Speaker 1: couple of months. What did you do in between? I 626 00:33:21,840 --> 00:33:24,200 Speaker 1: was looking for a job, like you know, like normal people, 627 00:33:24,360 --> 00:33:26,479 Speaker 1: you know, trying to figure out my next phase. I 628 00:33:26,520 --> 00:33:30,000 Speaker 1: was actually the day I signed with Baltimore, I had 629 00:33:30,000 --> 00:33:35,800 Speaker 1: got an interview with Kaplin University as academic visor. And 630 00:33:35,960 --> 00:33:39,440 Speaker 1: literally that day I came home, I got a phone call, 631 00:33:39,520 --> 00:33:41,120 Speaker 1: still had my suit on everything. I got a phone 632 00:33:41,120 --> 00:33:44,480 Speaker 1: call from Azzi. Gazzi knew something. He told me. He said, 633 00:33:44,480 --> 00:33:45,760 Speaker 1: you don't gotta wor out. You gonna do anything you 634 00:33:45,800 --> 00:33:47,480 Speaker 1: want to bring you back to Baltimore. And I was 635 00:33:47,520 --> 00:33:50,440 Speaker 1: just in tears. I couldn't believe it because I was like, 636 00:33:50,480 --> 00:33:52,280 Speaker 1: I thought it was over my life, you know. I 637 00:33:52,360 --> 00:33:54,320 Speaker 1: was like, man, I made the decision. I'm gonna move forward. 638 00:33:54,320 --> 00:33:56,000 Speaker 1: I'm still gonna work out of sub stage shape. But 639 00:33:56,040 --> 00:33:58,400 Speaker 1: I was moving forward my life in and I'll be 640 00:33:58,640 --> 00:34:01,120 Speaker 1: It's crazy enough that one called lead me to ten 641 00:34:01,200 --> 00:34:03,200 Speaker 1: years later. So you were about to take a job 642 00:34:03,240 --> 00:34:07,280 Speaker 1: as an academic advisor, and Ozzy called that day. Yeah, 643 00:34:07,360 --> 00:34:10,080 Speaker 1: same day, literally got home. All I had, all I 644 00:34:10,120 --> 00:34:12,480 Speaker 1: did was loosing my tie, and all of a sudden 645 00:34:12,719 --> 00:34:14,440 Speaker 1: Ozzy be on the phone, on the phone with Ozzy, 646 00:34:14,719 --> 00:34:16,640 Speaker 1: and I just started boom, crying and getting and all 647 00:34:16,640 --> 00:34:17,960 Speaker 1: of a sudden went from that to all right and 648 00:34:18,000 --> 00:34:20,160 Speaker 1: let me get ready in pack. And but I honestly, 649 00:34:20,200 --> 00:34:21,440 Speaker 1: I wasn't all the way all the way through it, 650 00:34:21,480 --> 00:34:24,959 Speaker 1: because I told you, I can't remember her name exactly now, 651 00:34:25,320 --> 00:34:27,400 Speaker 1: but I told her to the person interview with me, 652 00:34:27,400 --> 00:34:28,800 Speaker 1: and I told her, I said, let's just hold the 653 00:34:28,880 --> 00:34:30,319 Speaker 1: job for me and just in case, because this is 654 00:34:30,400 --> 00:34:32,640 Speaker 1: this game isn't forever, so I might need it in 655 00:34:32,600 --> 00:34:34,759 Speaker 1: an off season, maybe in a few weeks, and I'll 656 00:34:34,800 --> 00:34:36,640 Speaker 1: never forget. She told me, She told me God has 657 00:34:36,640 --> 00:34:39,000 Speaker 1: another plan for you. You won't have to worry about this, 658 00:34:39,480 --> 00:34:41,520 Speaker 1: and you go ahead and keep doing your thing. You're 659 00:34:41,560 --> 00:34:42,880 Speaker 1: gonna be in a You're gonna be in the NFL 660 00:34:42,920 --> 00:34:45,040 Speaker 1: for a long time. I mean I literally talked to 661 00:34:45,080 --> 00:34:50,320 Speaker 1: her that interview and for her to say that, you know, um, 662 00:34:50,320 --> 00:34:52,439 Speaker 1: ten years ago and it's still it's like you said, 663 00:34:52,480 --> 00:34:54,399 Speaker 1: I'm still playing. It's just it's just it's just it's 664 00:34:54,400 --> 00:34:57,919 Speaker 1: just crazy and that's just guys will just guys will 665 00:34:57,960 --> 00:35:00,719 Speaker 1: over me. We're doing fun facts with joh Spines. Your 666 00:35:00,760 --> 00:35:04,400 Speaker 1: second NFL season ended with a Super Bowl ring, but 667 00:35:04,480 --> 00:35:09,359 Speaker 1: it started with a very serious injury. What happened, Yeah, 668 00:35:09,440 --> 00:35:13,320 Speaker 1: so in practice in training camp, we're in our first 669 00:35:13,400 --> 00:35:17,440 Speaker 1: or second padded practice and guy hit me in the 670 00:35:17,480 --> 00:35:20,520 Speaker 1: baging gold line, live gold line, right in the middle 671 00:35:20,560 --> 00:35:21,920 Speaker 1: of my back. And I get up and I just, 672 00:35:22,040 --> 00:35:24,200 Speaker 1: you know, I'm thinking, now, I'm okay, she got hit 673 00:35:24,320 --> 00:35:27,000 Speaker 1: in the back, and all of a sudden that the 674 00:35:27,160 --> 00:35:29,759 Speaker 1: right side I believe it was, wasn't My leg wasn't 675 00:35:29,800 --> 00:35:31,799 Speaker 1: really moving. So I ended up going to training room. 676 00:35:32,600 --> 00:35:34,840 Speaker 1: And once I went to training room and put some 677 00:35:34,920 --> 00:35:36,680 Speaker 1: ice in my bag and it was over with and 678 00:35:36,760 --> 00:35:39,239 Speaker 1: I couldn't really walk. It was so much pain or 679 00:35:39,280 --> 00:35:43,920 Speaker 1: I didn't know what was wrong, And and my fiance say, well, now, wife. 680 00:35:43,960 --> 00:35:46,320 Speaker 1: Of course, at the time I'm calling her, she's you know, 681 00:35:46,520 --> 00:35:47,880 Speaker 1: trying to figure out what's gonna want to need to do. 682 00:35:47,960 --> 00:35:49,160 Speaker 1: And I told I said, it might not be the 683 00:35:49,160 --> 00:35:51,319 Speaker 1: big of a deal. And then obviously I do the 684 00:35:51,560 --> 00:35:54,000 Speaker 1: X rays and do everything else. And if I didn't 685 00:35:54,040 --> 00:35:57,640 Speaker 1: tell me, oh, I had fractured my lord trainverse processors 686 00:35:58,480 --> 00:36:00,399 Speaker 1: and I was like what it's like, yeah, your lower 687 00:36:00,480 --> 00:36:02,440 Speaker 1: back and I was like, broke my back. I was 688 00:36:02,480 --> 00:36:04,719 Speaker 1: like yeah. So it was crazy because I was like, 689 00:36:04,760 --> 00:36:06,560 Speaker 1: am I still gonna play? As all my mind was 690 00:36:06,600 --> 00:36:08,239 Speaker 1: like am I still be able to play football? And 691 00:36:08,560 --> 00:36:11,480 Speaker 1: as it's over for me? So that was my biggest 692 00:36:11,480 --> 00:36:13,719 Speaker 1: obstacle during that whole time mentally trying to figure out 693 00:36:13,760 --> 00:36:16,920 Speaker 1: I'm still gonna play this game. So broken back is 694 00:36:16,960 --> 00:36:20,480 Speaker 1: not an injured shoulder. You're not upping about doing your thing. 695 00:36:20,760 --> 00:36:24,120 Speaker 1: I mean you're laid out. How bad was that? Oh? 696 00:36:24,160 --> 00:36:26,520 Speaker 1: It was bad. It was bad. And like I said, 697 00:36:26,600 --> 00:36:29,640 Speaker 1: luckily I have have my my then at toime fiance 698 00:36:29,760 --> 00:36:33,319 Speaker 1: and my now wife. She was there all the way through. 699 00:36:33,640 --> 00:36:36,400 Speaker 1: She um and I couldn't even get out of the bathroom, 700 00:36:36,440 --> 00:36:38,560 Speaker 1: get out the bed to go to the bathroom. So 701 00:36:38,600 --> 00:36:40,759 Speaker 1: I had a big old jug next to my bed 702 00:36:40,840 --> 00:36:42,680 Speaker 1: just so I could turn sideways to use the bathroom. 703 00:36:42,680 --> 00:36:44,239 Speaker 1: I know it's too much affation, but I just all 704 00:36:44,239 --> 00:36:47,120 Speaker 1: I had. I couldn't do anything. It was painful, and 705 00:36:47,239 --> 00:36:49,080 Speaker 1: you know I was I was trying and trying. She 706 00:36:49,120 --> 00:36:50,960 Speaker 1: would get my ice and try to take care of 707 00:36:51,000 --> 00:36:53,839 Speaker 1: me and she You know, when you have somebody that 708 00:36:54,239 --> 00:36:56,520 Speaker 1: does that all for you, and those and those moments 709 00:36:56,560 --> 00:36:58,319 Speaker 1: when you're down and trying to figure things out and 710 00:36:58,360 --> 00:37:01,440 Speaker 1: what's going on, you know, I'm just blessed to have 711 00:37:01,600 --> 00:37:03,520 Speaker 1: someone like that in my life, still to this day 712 00:37:03,520 --> 00:37:05,319 Speaker 1: and for the rest of my life. And that's why 713 00:37:05,320 --> 00:37:07,640 Speaker 1: I said, that's the greatest decision I ever made, is 714 00:37:07,719 --> 00:37:10,880 Speaker 1: Mary and my wife. So you got healthy. The Ravens 715 00:37:10,880 --> 00:37:12,920 Speaker 1: made it to the Super Bowl. They beat the forty 716 00:37:13,000 --> 00:37:16,239 Speaker 1: nine ers, and you made a special team's tackle that 717 00:37:16,520 --> 00:37:19,440 Speaker 1: ended the game. And just to set the scene for 718 00:37:19,480 --> 00:37:22,600 Speaker 1: people that don't remember, the Ravens took an intentional safety 719 00:37:22,760 --> 00:37:24,680 Speaker 1: at the end of the game and had to do 720 00:37:24,760 --> 00:37:28,040 Speaker 1: the free kick. They kick it to the very dangerous 721 00:37:28,320 --> 00:37:32,800 Speaker 1: Ted Gin Junior, and he was going. He ran about 722 00:37:32,920 --> 00:37:36,480 Speaker 1: thirty yards before you got him to the ground, right, yes, yes, 723 00:37:36,600 --> 00:37:39,359 Speaker 1: And it was nervous because it's ted again and tied again. 724 00:37:39,480 --> 00:37:41,480 Speaker 1: At that time, was one of the most dangerous at turners. 725 00:37:41,840 --> 00:37:43,839 Speaker 1: And we was like, all right, we thought somebody would 726 00:37:43,840 --> 00:37:45,480 Speaker 1: get him early. But now he started going to the 727 00:37:45,520 --> 00:37:48,480 Speaker 1: sideline and obviously when he got into my grass, I 728 00:37:48,560 --> 00:37:50,200 Speaker 1: just slung him down. Ball came out and he just 729 00:37:50,280 --> 00:37:52,200 Speaker 1: knew it was game over. And I think it's just 730 00:37:52,239 --> 00:37:54,920 Speaker 1: crazy to start the year that I had, I couldn't 731 00:37:54,960 --> 00:37:58,799 Speaker 1: really do anything, you know, with my back, and all 732 00:37:58,800 --> 00:38:00,800 Speaker 1: of a sudden the years to start and I still, 733 00:38:00,800 --> 00:38:03,239 Speaker 1: you know, getting through my injury finally even a practice too. 734 00:38:03,719 --> 00:38:07,040 Speaker 1: From practice actually starting that year to trying to you know, 735 00:38:07,160 --> 00:38:10,000 Speaker 1: starting my first NFL game, making playing a lot more, 736 00:38:10,040 --> 00:38:11,919 Speaker 1: and then go from that to actually making last type 737 00:38:11,920 --> 00:38:14,360 Speaker 1: of the super Bowl. It's just it's just a crazy 738 00:38:14,440 --> 00:38:17,360 Speaker 1: moment and I can't really as just as suddenly you know, 739 00:38:17,400 --> 00:38:19,759 Speaker 1: you're writing a storybook or something, just you know, took 740 00:38:19,800 --> 00:38:22,120 Speaker 1: my kids, hopefully as they get older, and they were 741 00:38:22,120 --> 00:38:25,960 Speaker 1: thinking somebody else when it's really just me, all right. 742 00:38:26,040 --> 00:38:28,800 Speaker 1: A few wild card questions to wrap up fun facts 743 00:38:28,800 --> 00:38:33,319 Speaker 1: with Josh Bines. When's the last time you had short hair? Oh? 744 00:38:33,360 --> 00:38:35,840 Speaker 1: Short hair? The last time? Probably short hair. I had 745 00:38:35,880 --> 00:38:38,319 Speaker 1: to be an elementary And the only reason I got 746 00:38:38,320 --> 00:38:41,400 Speaker 1: short hair is because I was as smart as I was. 747 00:38:41,440 --> 00:38:43,600 Speaker 1: I got it had I got in trouble for maybe 748 00:38:43,719 --> 00:38:45,920 Speaker 1: getting in trouble at school, maybe a little angry problems 749 00:38:45,960 --> 00:38:48,640 Speaker 1: here and there. Well, but so I got a couple 750 00:38:48,640 --> 00:38:50,640 Speaker 1: of fights in here and there. My dad was like, Okay, 751 00:38:50,680 --> 00:38:52,480 Speaker 1: so we're gonna keep doing that. So eventually cut my 752 00:38:52,520 --> 00:38:55,239 Speaker 1: hair like really low to almost looking bald, and I 753 00:38:55,280 --> 00:38:57,600 Speaker 1: was embarrassed, and of course my mom didn't let it 754 00:38:57,680 --> 00:39:00,160 Speaker 1: have to get so I've always pretty much for us 755 00:39:00,160 --> 00:39:01,960 Speaker 1: outside of that. I think that's why been third grade. 756 00:39:02,000 --> 00:39:04,919 Speaker 1: But since that time, I've always from a little kid 757 00:39:04,920 --> 00:39:07,120 Speaker 1: all the way, I've always had hair frow to the 758 00:39:07,239 --> 00:39:10,200 Speaker 1: Jerry curl place back in the day, to braids and 759 00:39:10,239 --> 00:39:12,480 Speaker 1: then bradies went to what I have now Jerry's for 760 00:39:12,560 --> 00:39:15,839 Speaker 1: the last thirteen or so years. All right, final fun 761 00:39:15,920 --> 00:39:26,360 Speaker 1: fact for Josh Bines. If you could meet anybody in history, athlete, entertainer, statesman, whatever, Oh, 762 00:39:26,400 --> 00:39:29,840 Speaker 1: who would that person be? That's so hard, But honestly, 763 00:39:29,920 --> 00:39:31,759 Speaker 1: it has to be Obama at this point, it has 764 00:39:31,800 --> 00:39:35,120 Speaker 1: to be Obama. Obama is the greatest and and what 765 00:39:35,239 --> 00:39:39,239 Speaker 1: he represents and him him Michelle have a great connection 766 00:39:39,360 --> 00:39:42,040 Speaker 1: and what they have inspires even me and my wife. 767 00:39:42,080 --> 00:39:45,399 Speaker 1: And when you have that bond with someone else as 768 00:39:45,480 --> 00:39:48,120 Speaker 1: unbreakable and they show it and you can tell as 769 00:39:48,160 --> 00:39:51,160 Speaker 1: authentic and what he represent as a man and especially 770 00:39:51,320 --> 00:39:54,400 Speaker 1: lead his nation is during his presidency. Is just awesome 771 00:39:54,440 --> 00:39:56,319 Speaker 1: and definitely be a person I would love to meet. 772 00:39:56,840 --> 00:40:00,440 Speaker 1: You're off the hot seat, appreciate your time. Thank you 773 00:40:00,520 --> 00:40:02,319 Speaker 1: very much, and best of luck the rest of the year. 774 00:40:02,640 --> 00:40:04,480 Speaker 1: Thank you so much for having me. I'll appreciate it. 775 00:40:05,520 --> 00:40:07,160 Speaker 1: That's going to do it for this episode of the 776 00:40:07,200 --> 00:40:10,400 Speaker 1: Bengals Booth Podcast, brought to you by bud Light Seltzer. 777 00:40:10,520 --> 00:40:14,640 Speaker 1: Refresh the game. If you haven't done so already, please subscribe, 778 00:40:14,840 --> 00:40:16,560 Speaker 1: and if you have a minute, give it a rating 779 00:40:16,760 --> 00:40:20,200 Speaker 1: or share a comment that helps more Bengals fans find 780 00:40:20,239 --> 00:40:24,000 Speaker 1: this podcast. I'm Dan Horde. 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