Speaker 1: Oh my god, it's a reveal. I love a reveal.
Speaker 2: Yes, so good, we're here, gosh, I'm here with my mittens.
Speaker 1: Yes, I am ready to go to Hawaii. You are
Speaker 1: ready to go to Vermont.
Speaker 2: And for those of you who are not following us
Speaker 2: or watching us on social media, Sabrina right now is
Speaker 2: dressed in her best Hawaiian en psalm, including puka shells.
Speaker 1: And I went on Amazon and purchased.
Speaker 3: Did you really nice?
Speaker 1: I love that?
Speaker 2: Yeah, part of me is relieved that those weren't already
Speaker 2: in your wardrobe. And then I am dressed for mountain.
Speaker 2: I've got my ski hat, mittens, my zip up shirt,
Speaker 2: and my of course, my scarf. The one thing that
Speaker 2: is slightly embarrassing is the mittens, the hat, and the scarf.
Speaker 3: I borrowed all from my wife.
Speaker 1: Oh you look like a snow buddy. Yeah you ready?
Speaker 1: I am? Are you?
Speaker 2: I do?
Speaker 1: I look ready? Yes you do.
Speaker 3: I am ready to go.
Speaker 2: As everybody can probably tell, this week, we are hanging
Speaker 2: ten and hitting the slopes with a Disney legend and
Speaker 2: a dcom must see. It is time, everybody for a
Speaker 2: little Johnny tsunami. It's so strange to do this in
Speaker 2: full mittens. This is a nineteen ninety nine Disney Channel
Speaker 2: original movie. It debuted on July twenty fourth, ninety nine,
Speaker 2: and it's a beer we think is Sabrina's favorite d com.
Speaker 2: Is that are we close to being able to say
Speaker 2: that this is your favorite one?
Speaker 1: I I'm going for it. I okay, I love this movie.
Speaker 1: It's got two of my favorite activities to do, surfing
Speaker 1: and snowboarding.
Speaker 3: Wow, so it wrapped up in one film.
Speaker 2: Now. When people heard we were doing this podcast, this
Speaker 2: was one of the most asked about movies. This and Brink,
Speaker 2: which is it's a bit of a spiritual sibling to Brink.
Speaker 2: Yet to say Brink with some obvious similarities and a
Speaker 2: major focus on extreme sports. You might say that Brink
Speaker 2: walked so that Johnny Tsunami can run.
Speaker 1: Huh.
Speaker 3: And in the Complex.
Speaker 2: Magazine Top twenty five d com list we talked about
Speaker 2: this before, this was number two, and on Entertainment Weekly's
Speaker 2: countdown they had it at number ten out of thirty.
Speaker 3: So this is an absolutely beloved title, and not just
Speaker 3: by my co host Sabrina.
Speaker 2: Actually, before we get into this, I'm gonna take off
Speaker 2: all this stuff because it's it's normally hot in my booth,
Speaker 2: and now it's ridiculously hot in my booth.
Speaker 3: So I'm gonna so walk me through it.
Speaker 2: Walk you are a young Sabrina and on your screen
Speaker 2: comes Johnny Tsunami.
Speaker 3: Tell me about it. What happens in your life when
Speaker 3: you see this movie?
Speaker 1: Okay, So first of all, I knew it was coming
Speaker 1: out because I auditioned for.
Speaker 3: This, did you really?
Speaker 1: I did. I auditioned and got several callbacks later on
Speaker 1: a couple of years later.
Speaker 3: Actually, Emily, obviously you auditioned for a part of them.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and no for Johnny.
Speaker 2: You never know, they could have gone a different route,
Speaker 2: could have gone a different route, right.
Speaker 1: Actually, I would have loved that, And I remember being
Speaker 1: really excited. Well I was excited because of snowboarding, but
Speaker 1: at that time I was really into surfing. I loved it,
Speaker 1: and so I on my resume had I could snowboard
Speaker 1: and I could serve. So I really thought I was
Speaker 1: like gunning you were in. I thought I was in
Speaker 1: because I really could, you know, and I loved it.
Speaker 1: It was something. Both of those things are vacation things
Speaker 1: that my family and I did a lot, you know,
Speaker 1: going up to big Bear.
Speaker 2: I was gonna say, and both you could do in
Speaker 2: California on Johnny Who who could you can go one
Speaker 2: place or the other?
Speaker 1: One place or the other you could do you could.
Speaker 2: You could surf in one place and ski in the other,
Speaker 2: but you couldn't do both.
Speaker 1: Whereas we live and the same day, in the same day,
Speaker 1: you can start at sunrise and then head up to
Speaker 1: the mountain. It's amazing. So I do remember this movie
Speaker 1: once it came out, obviously bombed. I didn't get the
Speaker 1: role because it was looked like it was gonna be
Speaker 1: such a fun movie with a bunch of kids, like
Speaker 1: a huge, you know, cast of young actors, so which
Speaker 1: is always fun to film. And I remember loving it,
Speaker 1: loving it, thinking it was so cool that they were
Speaker 1: letting a young cast do a movie like this instead
Speaker 1: of it being a bunch of you know about a
Speaker 1: pro surfer, a pro border This is just like kids
Speaker 1: that just love it. And I thought Brandon was great
Speaker 1: in it. He was so sweet. I loved his character
Speaker 1: in it. But you know, during the audition process, he
Speaker 1: had been auditioning quite a bit, so I knew him
Speaker 1: a little bit, not too but a little bit. During
Speaker 1: the audition process. So I remember when it came out,
Speaker 1: I was just really excited that this was gonna be
Speaker 1: one of the biggest things he had done at that point, right,
Speaker 1: this was a huge, huge opportunity for him.
Speaker 2: So rewatching it twenty five years later, did it hit
Speaker 2: all the same buttons that did when you first watched it? Was?
Speaker 3: Was it as good? Do you remember it the same
Speaker 3: or absolutely?
Speaker 1: I don't remember being able to tell that that was
Speaker 1: not in fact the actors surfing or snowboarding so often. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that didn't hit me back in the day where the
Speaker 1: first scene of the when he's riding the wave, I'm like,
Speaker 1: that guy's like, he looks like he's at least half
Speaker 1: a foot taller than Brandon, you know, out on that surfboard.
Speaker 1: So that I didn't catch on to when I was younger.
Speaker 3: You don't notice that.
Speaker 2: Which is the thing about Brink that was so amazing
Speaker 2: was that they shot it seamlessly, so you could never
Speaker 2: tell who was the actor who was the stunt person. Yes,
Speaker 2: and this was after it was after break. Yeah, this
Speaker 2: one not as good.
Speaker 1: No, The difference in that in that regard how that
Speaker 1: was you know, executed, was not on the level as
Speaker 1: Brink was and I don't remember that back then.
Speaker 3: So the difference.
Speaker 2: Again, We talked about this because I know some people
Speaker 2: were a little upset with my critiques of Brink, And
Speaker 2: what people have to remember is I am watching these
Speaker 2: with no nostalgia attached. I was older when these came out,
Speaker 2: so I'm just watching them as movies, and I have
Speaker 2: to remember that that I you know, people are very
Speaker 2: attached to these films. But that being said, I really
Speaker 2: liked this movie.
Speaker 1: I did.
Speaker 2: I really liked Johnny Tsunami. I thought this story was great.
Speaker 2: He is one of the most not just him, but
Speaker 2: he and his grandfather are essentially two of the most
Speaker 2: likable characters that have ever been on a Disney Channel movie.
Speaker 1: Why was that man not my grandfather? Sorry? I love
Speaker 1: my grandfather, but oh my god, how cool?
Speaker 3: It's great? Yet No, he was so cool.
Speaker 2: But it was also like, you know, there's you get
Speaker 2: into these things where hey, we have to move, and
Speaker 2: the obvious character is to kind of the writing. The
Speaker 2: normal writing of a film like this would be I
Speaker 2: can't believe we're moving. I have so much going on here.
Speaker 2: Johnny just kind of took everything in stride. He's like,
Speaker 2: okayre He's like, you're moving in a week.
Speaker 1: He's like, okay, that was one of my first things.
Speaker 2: I'm like, okay, guess well, wait, well we got we'll
Speaker 2: get we'll get into all the specifics.
Speaker 3: We'll get in all this.
Speaker 2: Before we get there, let's just welcome you to Magical Rewind,
Speaker 2: the show that makes you want to grab your friends,
Speaker 2: your pjs and your popcorn and go back to a
Speaker 2: time when all the houses were smart. The Waves tsunamis Yes,
Speaker 2: we've been saying.
Speaker 3: That, and the high School's musical.
Speaker 1: I'm Wilford Dell and I'm Sabrina Brian bra Before.
Speaker 3: We wipe out, let's read the synopsis.
Speaker 2: Okay, So, Johnny Kappahala is a teen surfing sensation who's
Speaker 2: forced to move from Hawaii to a tiny ski resort
Speaker 2: town in Vermont when he gets caught in the middle
Speaker 2: of a long standing battle between the local prep school
Speaker 2: skiers and the public school snowboarders. With two of the
Speaker 2: greatest names by the Way, the Sky and then the Urchins.
Speaker 3: We'll get them all ye.
Speaker 2: His legendary grandfather helps him become the best athlete on
Speaker 2: the mountain. The movie has a bit of a Mandela
Speaker 2: effect because Johnny Tsunami is not actually the main character
Speaker 2: of the movie. Johnny Tsunami was his grandfather.
Speaker 1: And do you know that it takes a while to
Speaker 1: realize that. I mean, you know, and rewatching it, I'm like,
Speaker 1: that's right, that's his great that's not even him. So
Speaker 1: that is kind of funny, that is.
Speaker 2: And the other thing that's very strange is the actor
Speaker 2: who played his dad and the actor played his grandfather
Speaker 2: were like nine years of part in age.
Speaker 1: Uh really, yeah, so I didn't think you could tell that. Yeah.
Speaker 2: So the guy who the great played the grandfather was
Speaker 2: only nine years older than the guy who played his son.
Speaker 1: Wow.
Speaker 3: But the movie, we'll get into the cast.
Speaker 2: The movie stars Brandon Baker as Johnny Kappahala, the culture
Speaker 2: shock surfer now finding himself on the slopes. Brandon he
Speaker 2: played Mowgli in the nineteen ninety eight Disney Jungle Books
Speaker 2: beIN off Mowgli's story, and would later end up on
Speaker 2: a few episodes of Even Stevens and the Proud Family.
Speaker 2: He has since and I love kind of reading stuff
Speaker 2: like this. He's since completely retired from acting and is
Speaker 2: living in Colorado as a wedding efficiant.
Speaker 1: Could you imagine Johnny's tsunami doing your vows for you?
Speaker 3: How cool would that be?
Speaker 1: Where was this information five years ago when you got married,
Speaker 1: because I would have been calling Brandon, I need you
Speaker 1: to do it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, bra Do you take this woman.
Speaker 1: To ride the wave for the rest of your life?
Speaker 3: The eternal barrel with you for the rest of your life.
Speaker 1: Wow.
Speaker 2: Johnny's best friend is Sam, who is a public school
Speaker 2: snowboarder or an urchin played by the late Lee Thomas Young,
Speaker 2: who passed away in twenty thirteen at the age of
Speaker 2: twenty nine.
Speaker 3: He had an incredible resume when he passed away.
Speaker 2: He was from the Friday Night Lights movie over fifty
Speaker 2: episodes of Rosolian Isles, but was probably best known, especially
Speaker 2: to our fans, as the famous Jet Jackson on the
Speaker 2: Disney Channel original series of the same name, which was.
Speaker 3: His first role, is first role ever. He was the
Speaker 3: lead in his own Disney Really, I.
Speaker 1: Did not know that. That is unbelievable. What a great
Speaker 1: role to book from the get go, right from.
Speaker 3: The get go. But he was so good and so
Speaker 3: good in this movie.
Speaker 1: I love Sam, I too loved him. He was so sweet.
Speaker 2: One of my only criticisms, really, there's a couple small ones,
Speaker 2: but one of them was I would love to have
Speaker 2: met him earlier. I felt like we met the best
Speaker 2: friend a little bit, like they set it up that
Speaker 2: maybe it would be the Emily character, but then his
Speaker 2: best friend, who was like his boy the whole time.
Speaker 3: They I thought they could have brought him in a little.
Speaker 2: Sooner because he was such a good character and that
Speaker 2: the two of them were so great together that I
Speaker 2: would love to have seen more of that.
Speaker 3: Frankly, Yeah, so loved him. Yeah, he was amazing.
Speaker 1: I wish there would have been like some way that
Speaker 1: he could have stuck around too right, like not move.
Speaker 3: Right yet where at the end it kind of work.
Speaker 1: But again, that's one of the things I liked about.
Speaker 3: This movie was it was very real.
Speaker 2: You know, you're in a military family, Tuesday, you live
Speaker 2: somewhere Wednesday year somewhere else. Yeah, yeah, it was. I
Speaker 2: liked every aspect of that. And then Carrie Hero. Yuki
Speaker 2: Tagawa is Johnny Tsunami, the Hawaii surf legend. He's been
Speaker 2: in hundreds of things. You've seen him from Mortal Combat
Speaker 2: to Nash Bridges. He's all over TV. And movies for decades.
Speaker 2: He is a very famous character actor, and it's so
Speaker 2: strange to see him playing the good guy, which was
Speaker 2: pretty awesome.
Speaker 1: I loved it.
Speaker 3: I was sold yet me too.
Speaker 2: And then there's Kirsten Storms who plays the love interest Emily,
Speaker 2: who could have been Sabrina, was not. But she's also
Speaker 2: in the dcom classic Xenon Girl of the twenty first Century,
Speaker 2: which we will be watching because that's another one us
Speaker 2: we get asked.
Speaker 3: About all the time.
Speaker 2: She was a co star of mine, but we we
Speaker 2: never met the whole time. We did Kim Possible for
Speaker 2: years and years and years, and I don't think I
Speaker 2: have ever actually met. Uh. If I have and I forget,
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, she probably forgets me too. And she's now
Speaker 2: a soap operlar, you know, has become a so opera legend.
Speaker 2: Five years on Days of her Lives and now twenty
Speaker 2: years and running on General Hospital twenty years, on the
Speaker 2: same show as Maxie Jones. Wow, could you imagine being
Speaker 2: on a show for twenty years? How amazing is that?
Speaker 1: Yeah, the run of The Cheetah Girls was seven years,
Speaker 1: and that felt like decades. I mean it felt way longer.
Speaker 1: So I can't even imagine what actually being on a
Speaker 1: show for decades would be like.
Speaker 3: And the you know, Boy Meets World was seven years.
Speaker 2: But you rehearse, rehearse, and then you shoot a day
Speaker 2: or two of the week for a soap opera, you're
Speaker 2: shooting every single dis.
Speaker 1: Yes, it's crazy because that's pretty hard work too. Oh,
Speaker 1: it's brutal way they go on And how quick they
Speaker 1: moved through pages a day. I went when I did
Speaker 1: Bowl and Beautiful, I had done quite a few, like
Speaker 1: guest starring things, but not on the pace that you
Speaker 1: have to have. I mean that that is awesome.
Speaker 2: You got to know your stuff, you got to know
Speaker 2: your character. You've got to know your lines.
Speaker 3: You're getting pages and pages day and.
Speaker 1: They changed the cold day and they change it and
Speaker 1: the morning.
Speaker 3: Yeah, anyway, I hope we get a chance to talk
Speaker 3: to her.
Speaker 2: And then Mary Page Keller is rounding out Johnny's mom,
Speaker 2: uh and Yuji Okamoto is his dad, his cold as
Speaker 2: ice dad, we'd like to say. And a lot of
Speaker 2: people probably know him as Chosen in the Karate Kid too.
Speaker 3: And then he brought the.
Speaker 2: Character back, of course for the new show that's that's
Speaker 2: on Cobra.
Speaker 1: Ka, which I remember when I first watched this. This
Speaker 1: is one of the things I couldn't get past that
Speaker 1: he was that guy and Karate Kid. I hated that
Speaker 1: guy in Karate Kid, so it was very hard.
Speaker 3: That's what makes him so good when.
Speaker 1: He comes on as Johnny, you know, the dad.
Speaker 3: So many bad people.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm like, I don't like you already, sir, and
Speaker 1: you're not very nice to your son.
Speaker 2: Between Yuji and Hiroyuki, there are two legends at playing
Speaker 2: bad guys that came on.
Speaker 3: And played two very nice people.
Speaker 2: Because again talking about Brink, we laid into the dad
Speaker 2: character a little bit.
Speaker 3: It seemed a little more angry at the world.
Speaker 2: Yes, Ugi's character in this movie seemed more like he
Speaker 2: was angry at his own father, and so he was
Speaker 2: overcompensating with Johnny as opposed to being angry at him.
Speaker 2: He thought what he was doing was for the best,
Speaker 2: which lightened him up a little bit from Brinks Dad.
Speaker 2: But yeah, it was a great cast all the way around.
Speaker 2: I thought the bad guys were great at being bad guys,
Speaker 2: the good guys were great at being good guys.
Speaker 3: It was pretty great.
Speaker 2: It was directed by Steven Boyam, who was a stuntman
Speaker 2: for almost one hundred movies, including Days of Thunder, Buffy
Speaker 2: the Vampire Slayer, True Romance, and Groundhog Day. A true
Speaker 2: legend with all that stuff, and he would find himself
Speaker 2: as a director starting in nineteen ninety eight with TV
Speaker 2: movies like Johnny Ssnami, Motocrossed So good, Mom's got a
Speaker 2: date with a vampire. And now he's a TV director
Speaker 2: for shows like The Boys, Hawaii five o Ncis Los Angeles.
Speaker 3: Been working forever doing some huge projects.
Speaker 2: Yeah, from being I'm being a stunt person, moving all
Speaker 2: the way to director and everything in between. I'm sure,
Speaker 2: but another directing Disney Channel legend when you've got Motocross
Speaker 2: Tsunami and Mom's got to tate the vampire all stuck there.
Speaker 2: It is a tight eighty eight minutes. It is the
Speaker 2: perfect dcom run, which is close to the ninety minute mark.
Speaker 3: And it was it was.
Speaker 2: Nominated for the Humanitarians Prize in two thousand, which is great. Now, apparently,
Speaker 2: were you aware of this there's a sequel?
Speaker 1: No, I was not aware of it until I was
Speaker 1: on Disney Plus and there it was.
Speaker 3: And so you haven't watched yet, because we're gonna have
Speaker 3: to watch this at some point.
Speaker 1: Yes, I have not watched the sequel. I did neither.
Speaker 3: I didn't even know there was one.
Speaker 2: It's called Johnny Kappahala Back on the Board and was
Speaker 2: released in two thousand and seven with a lot of
Speaker 2: the same actors. Yes, so we're gonna have to check that.
Speaker 1: Out, absolutely, I am. I you know that took just
Speaker 1: the same way as Descendants. It took everything in me
Speaker 1: to not just go ahead and watch it because I
Speaker 1: loved rewatching the first one and it was like, where
Speaker 1: did we take these characters?
Speaker 3: Guess what happened next?
Speaker 1: Are they back in Hawaii for real? Like, oh, so awesome.
Speaker 2: You said at the beginning that you loved both surfing
Speaker 2: and skiing.
Speaker 3: Yeah, which which one? Are you better at?
Speaker 1: Snowboard?
Speaker 3: Oh? So you you were urch was an urchin?
Speaker 1: You were an urchin, total urchin a sky. I started
Speaker 1: off skiing when I was little. I went for the
Speaker 1: first time when I was three. But by the time
Speaker 1: especially this movie came out, you know, junior high before
Speaker 1: then six about sixth grade, It's when I started snowboarding.
Speaker 1: And to be quite honest, that first scene of him
Speaker 1: trying out snowboarding was very, very close to what I
Speaker 1: look like on the poor Mammoth Mountain that whole week.
Speaker 2: That's what That's what That's true though, right, Is that
Speaker 2: what you look like the first time you're trying.
Speaker 3: You're catching edges and doing all this.
Speaker 1: So I didn't know how to stop. I only took
Speaker 1: a half day two of class where you're to do
Speaker 1: the full day. Apparently the second part of the day
Speaker 1: is when they teach you how to stop. So I
Speaker 1: had not learn how to stop. How I would stop
Speaker 1: was tuck and roll. Okay, okay, well does that work?
Speaker 1: Can I ask why you bailed on the class halfway through?
Speaker 1: Because I just I thought I thought I was good.
Speaker 1: I was like, I got this, I'm totally good. I'm
Speaker 1: totally good. We were up in Mammoth, we were staying
Speaker 1: close to a friend of my dad who had like
Speaker 1: an older son who was going to take us out
Speaker 1: onto the mountain after that like class, and so we
Speaker 1: took half the day and then he's like, you guys
Speaker 1: think you're good, like totally, let's go. I can't get
Speaker 1: no problem.
Speaker 3: I got it.
Speaker 1: And so my poor friend and I we also didn't
Speaker 1: know how to edge very well, just what they call
Speaker 1: leafing where you just go on your heels, so you
Speaker 1: go to the left and the right leafing, so you're
Speaker 1: just going back and forth this way, not going heel
Speaker 1: toe heel toe, which is what you're supposed to do.
Speaker 2: Is that another weight? What is leafing the thing you're
Speaker 2: supposed to do or are you supposed.
Speaker 1: To do when you don't know what you're doing? So
Speaker 1: he being on a heel on the mountain, using your
Speaker 1: heels into the ground is way easier. It's super comfortable.
Speaker 1: You can sit on the back of the board.
Speaker 3: Well, that's what he says to me.
Speaker 2: That's what he's as he's teaching them, totally, that's completely
Speaker 2: what he says to him, is like, yeah, you gotta
Speaker 2: in the front of the board, surfing back of the board.
Speaker 1: Otherwise you go straight down, which is what I did.
Speaker 1: Knocked out a couple of kids in their own ski
Speaker 1: school and tucked.
Speaker 2: Enrolled it, took out some skies on your way down,
Speaker 2: and then talking all all the way there.
Speaker 1: It was awful. I was terrible on that mountain and
Speaker 1: it was incredibly unsafe, but I made it, and I'm
Speaker 1: an okay snowboarder.
Speaker 3: Now I'm not.
Speaker 1: I'm no longer that level.
Speaker 2: No, that's me on any board. So I've never tried snowboarding.
Speaker 2: I can ski a little bit. I just learned how
Speaker 2: to stop like two years ago, okay, but I've tried
Speaker 2: surfing once in Hawaii and it was literally you know,
Speaker 2: the guy taking you out and pushing you into the
Speaker 2: wave and then going slap.
Speaker 1: Stop stand up. That was on the long board.
Speaker 2: That was That was my extent of doing that. But
Speaker 2: one of the things, much like Brink or any of
Speaker 2: the other movies that we've been watching, one thing I've noticed,
Speaker 2: especially from this era of the Disney Channel movies, the
Speaker 2: music is.
Speaker 1: Phenomenal, unbelievable. I don't remember being like thinking about the music.
Speaker 1: I don't know if because of where my career has
Speaker 1: taken me, I'm so intuned into music and soundtracks and scores. Again,
Speaker 1: I was blown away. They nail this. Scott like whoever
Speaker 1: was really picking the music at this point of Yes,
Speaker 1: the channels, like Wira hip was should have got a raise.
Speaker 1: So good, I mean you just the every montage of
Speaker 1: the snowboarding it was so good.
Speaker 2: It was like watching one of those Warren Miller videos
Speaker 2: of people back in the day snowboarding and skiing. I
Speaker 2: must have shazammed four different songs. Yes, as I was
Speaker 2: watching this.
Speaker 1: Movie they were. There is one really big song that
Speaker 1: was on the radio towards the end of the movie.
Speaker 1: Was it Dring. I'm trying to think. I wish I
Speaker 1: would have like jotted it down. Was it Fastballs the Way? Yes?
Speaker 2: Yeah, so that was that. That was a big one
Speaker 2: that they had there. But it was also like.
Speaker 1: It still comes on the radio. It did because it's great.
Speaker 1: Jeffrey's fan Club was there.
Speaker 2: I mean it was Jesse Camp who was the winner
Speaker 2: of MTVS Want to Be a VJ Contest. I mean
Speaker 2: it was you name it. This soundtrack hit it out
Speaker 2: of the park and it was perfect. We were talking
Speaker 2: about the Last Brink montage where all of a sudden
Speaker 2: there was like that slow song that came out of
Speaker 2: nowhere that took you out of it a little bit. Yeah,
Speaker 2: this was one song after another that was just brought
Speaker 2: you right into the boarding or the skiing.
Speaker 1: Or whatever totally. It did. It just swallows you into
Speaker 1: being in that era with the music that was the
Speaker 1: only thing you would really hear on the radio. I mean,
Speaker 1: you know, it just it was it was every choice
Speaker 1: was just spot on every choice.
Speaker 2: All the way around and all the way Now, since
Speaker 2: we're talking about the montages and we're talking about a
Speaker 2: lot of the snowboarding and skiing scenes and the surfing scenes,
Speaker 2: I guess we've mentioned this briefly, but this movie did
Speaker 2: not do nearly as well in hiding the stunt people.
Speaker 1: The stunts not even close.
Speaker 2: No, I mean, and I guess I guess with with rollerblading,
Speaker 2: it's quicker cuts and and there's people spinning very quickly,
Speaker 2: whereas the snowboarding scenes there's kind of big long shots
Speaker 2: where you're staying on them for a long time and
Speaker 2: you can really tell it's not them.
Speaker 1: Yes, well, okay, so here here's my take on it. Yes, agreed,
Speaker 1: the especially with surfing. With surfing, I think you are
Speaker 1: dead on what we're talking about. They're longer shots. He Also,
Speaker 1: the surfers also are only wearing trunks, right, So when
Speaker 1: you see the surfer's body and then it changes to
Speaker 1: Johnny's body, there's a giant difference, like of it looked
Speaker 1: like an older you know more, and then you got
Speaker 1: Johnny who it was so cute in the beginning of
Speaker 1: the movie. I loved to see that he was actually
Speaker 1: playing Mowgli because he kind of looked like like without
Speaker 1: a shirt on and his hair and everything kind of
Speaker 1: just chomping around. You have the hair, didn't he never
Speaker 1: wearing never wearing clothes like at the beginning.
Speaker 2: Also with the big smile on his face and that
Speaker 2: kind of he gives off the Mowgli kind of vibe
Speaker 2: of just being happy and loved it.
Speaker 1: But then so I saw that obviously at the beginning,
Speaker 1: But then I assumed because in snowboarding, how much you
Speaker 1: can maneuver around the mountain and they're fully clothed and
Speaker 1: they've got hats on. I would have thought that I
Speaker 1: would have noticed it, and it would have been hidden
Speaker 1: a lot better. Right that that was kind of surprising
Speaker 1: to me When it came with the surfing, I get it.
Speaker 1: But with the snowboarding, that was a little surprising to
Speaker 1: me because I thought that was more on the lines
Speaker 1: of the rollerblading me too, with the helmets and and.
Speaker 3: But it was it was really noticeable in this movie.
Speaker 2: And then the other not problem I had, but just
Speaker 2: kind of amazing thing is you look at We've talked
Speaker 2: about the differences in between what would be normal standards
Speaker 2: and practices back in the day compared to now where,
Speaker 2: like especially the skiers.
Speaker 1: Nobody's wearing a helmet. No one.
Speaker 3: The snowboarders grab some helmets, but the skiers are not
Speaker 3: a helmet in sight in the whole movie. They would
Speaker 3: never allow that nowadays, of course.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean the last one of the last times
Speaker 1: I went, I just hit some snow so hard and
Speaker 1: landed straight on my back, and I happened to do
Speaker 1: it right in front of like a ski patrol person.
Speaker 1: And the guy's like, ma'am, Okay, we'll just move past that.
Speaker 1: But he's like, ma'am, we might want to start thinking
Speaker 1: about wearing helme. Yeah, smart, true, I do now have
Speaker 1: children they need me. I probably should be a little
Speaker 1: bit safer.
Speaker 2: Well, speaking of falling, did you see the guy, So
Speaker 2: it's the first day that his friend Sam is teaching
Speaker 2: him how to snowboard, right, and so he puts Johnny
Speaker 2: on the board.
Speaker 3: He goes down the hill.
Speaker 2: He's getting a little better, and then he tries the
Speaker 2: halfpipe for his first time.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he goes up a little bit and he falls backwards.
Speaker 2: But in the background, by about twenty feet somebody just
Speaker 2: goes up and wipes. Yes, I mean there is a
Speaker 2: hard hit to the point where even the actors.
Speaker 1: Was one of My Sabrinas sees, yeah, that was such
Speaker 1: a good moment. I rewound it. He wipes over over again.
Speaker 1: It was hilarious. I could, oh my gosh. Yes, you can.
Speaker 2: See the actors even looking yeah, like it's like, wow,
Speaker 2: that guy just wipe. I mean he comes down hard hard.
Speaker 2: I want to talk a little bit about some characters
Speaker 2: in the movie. Okay, starting with Jhanni'sunami himself. This guy
Speaker 2: is supposed to be a legendary Hawaiian surfer, but he's
Speaker 2: also supposed to be a quote unquote beach bum.
Speaker 3: His his own son is like, he's a surf bum.
Speaker 2: He does this, and yet he appears to live in
Speaker 2: this gorgeous house.
Speaker 1: Four feet from the water. My Sabrina sees, oh, he
Speaker 1: is like ocean front living in like pretty much not mansioned,
Speaker 1: but the.
Speaker 3: A nice place.
Speaker 1: Furniture is really nice. Like, I mean, there's that's what
Speaker 1: makes it kind of like, what's your dad's problem? Like
Speaker 1: the guy seems like he's got it together. He doesn't
Speaker 1: seem like he's a beach.
Speaker 3: Bumb Like, no, he might follow the surf or do
Speaker 3: what he's got to do. But he's obviously doing well
Speaker 3: for himself.
Speaker 1: Only he's got a second job of something, or those
Speaker 1: those competitions he is is paying him very.
Speaker 2: Well, or he found gold somewhere or something, because that
Speaker 2: guy's that's a multime.
Speaker 1: My house right on the water in Hawaii, right, I mean.
Speaker 3: Yeah, taking all your suprena seas you are.
Speaker 1: You really paying attention this?
Speaker 2: I saw some things in this one, but yeah, it's
Speaker 2: once again, and I think we've we've were starting to
Speaker 2: notice as we're unfolding these movies and we're watching one
Speaker 2: after another, we're starting to see some very real Disney
Speaker 2: Channel tropes. We've talked about annoying younger sister. We didn't
Speaker 2: didn't have that. We had a lot.
Speaker 1: It was an only child this episode, right.
Speaker 2: Only child, and so was Sam unless we don't know
Speaker 2: much about her her home life.
Speaker 3: Emily also appear.
Speaker 2: It seems like there was a bunch of kind of
Speaker 2: only childs, so they didn't have that trope. They do, however,
Speaker 2: still have the Dad's not a huge fan of the
Speaker 2: life choices that you're making.
Speaker 1: A dreams of your dream yet right, and the dream crusher.
Speaker 3: This guy was nicer about it.
Speaker 2: It almost seemed like they wrote it in such a
Speaker 2: way where he was angry at his.
Speaker 3: Own dad, So he was not taking that out on
Speaker 3: his son. He was never like mean to his son.
Speaker 3: It was more I'm.
Speaker 2: Going to, for your own good, move you away from
Speaker 2: this thing that I think is going to suck your
Speaker 2: life away.
Speaker 4: So it as a fourteen year old, right, So it
Speaker 4: seems like they lightened him up a little from the
Speaker 4: dad from Frank, but it's still that same kind of
Speaker 4: Disney trope of why I know you're good at this,
Speaker 4: but don't follow your dreams with the dad.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I know, I am going to agree with you
Speaker 1: in the sense that it's lightened, but it's still to
Speaker 1: me is strange. It's just why you're a grown up
Speaker 1: and your kid likes to serve. He's not even asking
Speaker 1: to get out of school to serve or you know,
Speaker 1: he's doing this when he's done with school. He's not
Speaker 1: ditching to go do this. He's just enjoying now. He
Speaker 1: found a new passion. Yeah, you made him come here.
Speaker 1: Why wouldn't you be happy that he's just at least
Speaker 1: happy to be there. He's got a group of friends.
Speaker 1: Especially the first talk in Vermont happens after you see
Speaker 1: him at lunch eating by himself. Dad, Yes, hey, I
Speaker 1: found something that I like to do with a group
Speaker 1: of people that are willing to go do it with
Speaker 1: me as a new person. Why wouldn't you just be
Speaker 1: happy so that it wasn't as harsh, But it was
Speaker 1: still there and it's still stung to me a little bit.
Speaker 3: Me too. I agree with you one hundred percent.
Speaker 2: And the other thing that was so interesting was his
Speaker 2: dad didn't have a problem with him going with the
Speaker 2: skies to go skiing, right, He didn't have the problem
Speaker 2: until he started snowboarding with the urchins. Then it was like, oh,
Speaker 2: now he's going down the path that of being a
Speaker 2: snowbumb like his father was the beach bomb or you know.
Speaker 1: So it was too close to home with the board.
Speaker 1: If you'd get two skis, it's different the one board
Speaker 1: out of here.
Speaker 2: Well, I think it was more about status. It's like
Speaker 2: the class of I want you to you know. He
Speaker 2: dresses him in the when he finally gets a school uniform,
Speaker 2: He's like, hey, now you look like you could fit
Speaker 2: in better, right.
Speaker 1: Which, again I have I find it hard to believe
Speaker 1: that his dad grew up in some shack because it's
Speaker 1: not shown.
Speaker 2: Now.
Speaker 1: No, it's not like he's having the new opportunity of
Speaker 1: being around you know, wealth, and you didn't seem like
Speaker 1: you came from anything much worse than right, you guys are.
Speaker 2: They didn't seem to make him like he was a
Speaker 2: kid from the wrong side of the tracks. They just
Speaker 2: made it from the other side of the country, which
Speaker 2: is two completely different things.
Speaker 3: But they also make Johnny so likable.
Speaker 2: I know everything about this kid, down to the down
Speaker 2: to like everything you would normally see in a Disney
Speaker 2: Channel movie, you know, the bad the quote unquote bad
Speaker 2: guys come to his locker. Johnny pulls out the magazine.
Speaker 2: They're like, what is this, and he's like, oh, great
Speaker 2: surfer magazine. You should check it out. Just give it
Speaker 2: back to me when you're done, like he was like sharing.
Speaker 1: By the way, page seventeen is a whole article on me.
Speaker 1: No big time Me never mentioned it.
Speaker 2: But he's just like he's just the nicest guy in
Speaker 2: the World's like, no, bro, I just you know, he
Speaker 2: wasn't this stereotypical, you know, fighting back against.
Speaker 1: Aggressive into it. No, although I would say the you
Speaker 1: know arch Nemesis here, there was a couple there was
Speaker 1: maybe one too many little little things that Johnny just
Speaker 1: kind of snaps at him as he's walking past him.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, to not have a fight happen.
Speaker 3: I see what you're saying. He escalated it a bit,
Speaker 3: kind of got.
Speaker 1: Away with it about one too many times, right of
Speaker 1: like all right, yeah, I went to high school. That
Speaker 1: would not have gone down. You've you've now poked the
Speaker 1: bear too many times.
Speaker 2: Right, It's like Johnny has left you alone in karate kid,
Speaker 2: And why are you going to dump water on his
Speaker 2: head at the dance?
Speaker 3: Like he's left you well enough alone? Dude, what are
Speaker 3: you doing?
Speaker 1: Leave him alone?
Speaker 2: I think we should also briefly touch on the ridiculous
Speaker 2: number of times some of these characters almost died.
Speaker 1: Why do they almost die so many times? Why were
Speaker 1: they not more panicked when they were hanging off the mountain?
Speaker 1: Like hanging I'm okay off a mountain. He calls down
Speaker 1: to Emily, are you okay, I'm okay, I'm stuck. It
Speaker 1: would have been like, no, Sam, I am about to
Speaker 1: die off the edge of this cliff. There is nothing
Speaker 1: that's gonna catch me. This is it not I'm stuck.
Speaker 1: I yeah, that should have been a little bit more
Speaker 1: of an emergency situation.
Speaker 2: I agree with you one hundred. But it's also if
Speaker 2: so they bring her on the mountain for her. She
Speaker 2: shows up on the mountain. They don't bring her. She
Speaker 2: shows up by herself. She's like, I can do this.
Speaker 2: They're going down just a regular route, and then she
Speaker 2: takes a slight left to death as there's no there's
Speaker 2: I don't snowboard, I don't ski, so this could be
Speaker 2: how mountains are. I have no idea how everyone's probably going. No,
Speaker 2: this is what mountains are like. It just happened to
Speaker 2: turn left. You're now off the mountain.
Speaker 1: But damn, sometimes when you're snowboarding in skiing, you do
Speaker 1: kind of go, you know, Okay, this is not for
Speaker 1: a beginner. This got bens around me. This, you know,
Speaker 1: because it does go just drops off like that. There
Speaker 1: are signs, which they did show, Yes, she did not see.
Speaker 1: They did set show the signs. But on a board,
Speaker 1: especially with her being her first day on, she couldn't
Speaker 1: control it enough. It didn't matter if the signs were there.
Speaker 1: There was no walls.
Speaker 2: No, it was nothing it just she went like this,
Speaker 2: she slightly turned to the right and then and then
Speaker 2: down down. And that was the other thing is when
Speaker 2: they cut from what looked like a kind of peaceable,
Speaker 2: nice trip to then all of a sudden, her sliding
Speaker 2: down the face of a mountain a rock ledge.
Speaker 1: I was like, oh my, how far is this gonna go?
Speaker 1: I didn't know that they actually allowed people to die
Speaker 1: in Disney movie.
Speaker 2: I'm seriously, I mean crazy that she's hanging on all
Speaker 2: the stuff, the urchins, they're all helping her.
Speaker 1: But then.
Speaker 2: He rides down the mountain, saves her life, save Sam's
Speaker 2: life too, brings over to it, and.
Speaker 1: The next day at school, she's pissed at him. She's
Speaker 1: pissed at him. What Emily, Emily, Emily, this guy just
Speaker 1: saved her life after not inviting you. By the way, Yeah,
Speaker 1: you came on your own. This is your decision, and
Speaker 1: you're now pissed. That's when she lost me. This is
Speaker 1: the bar scene from Lesident's Done bol over again.
Speaker 2: It is.
Speaker 1: It's the same thing. She lost me. I didn't like
Speaker 1: her anymore. I was done. I was done with Emily.
Speaker 2: She I thought, if I if I'm going to do
Speaker 2: any criticism of the movie.
Speaker 3: The two I had.
Speaker 2: The two big ones I had were one, I would
Speaker 2: like to have seen Sam earlier because I loved their
Speaker 2: dynamic yes and that best friend kind of vibe I
Speaker 2: would like to have seen more of. And two And
Speaker 2: I don't blame Kirsten and Storms for this at all.
Speaker 2: They didn't really develop her character nothing.
Speaker 3: No, she was his friend, then she wasn't his friend,
Speaker 3: then she was kind of his friend again, and that
Speaker 3: was that was it.
Speaker 1: It was.
Speaker 3: There was no real kind of impetus to get her
Speaker 3: back into the movie at all.
Speaker 1: It was it was I wondering, but this movie, see no,
Speaker 1: because this movie filmed in nineteen ninety nine, and you
Speaker 1: said the sequel came out in two thousand and seven,
Speaker 1: So that's a big gap. So I was gonna say,
Speaker 1: because sub maybe I'm interested in if the same characters
Speaker 1: are in that sequel. Is this a romance? That was
Speaker 1: this just the start of it, with this idea that
Speaker 1: we're going to do a sequel and that's when we're
Speaker 1: going to go into the romance.
Speaker 3: Oh, I hate to.
Speaker 1: Tell you this.
Speaker 2: We just got we just got a message from our producer,
Speaker 2: Jensen Krts.
Speaker 3: She does not come back for the sequel.
Speaker 2: My guess is she tried to snowboard again and went
Speaker 2: down the other side of the mountain and couldn't grab.
Speaker 3: The rock this time, and that and Johnny wasn't there.
Speaker 3: Johnny wasn't there to help her this time because.
Speaker 1: He remembered how pissed she was the first time.
Speaker 3: Oh man, rest in peace, Emily.
Speaker 1: Oh that's so sad. Wow.
Speaker 2: So yeah, but I thought that same thing where it
Speaker 2: was just kind of they didn't really develop her at all,
Speaker 2: because I thought, you know, you get into the Disney
Speaker 2: Channel movie, you figure she okay, she's the best friend.
Speaker 2: They're setting her up as the best friend and she's
Speaker 2: going to help them incorporate anything, and then she's not,
Speaker 2: Like she's not. Fifteen minutes later Sam comes in, It's like, oh,
Speaker 2: there's the Oh that's the dynamic I was looking for.
Speaker 2: And so again, I just thought they could have done
Speaker 2: a little more with her character. Right.
Speaker 1: The biggest thing that for me was shocking when she
Speaker 1: was was because there was a moment when she first
Speaker 1: gets pulled up and the ski patrol is there and
Speaker 1: Johnny's the one that's right there. There's like a face
Speaker 1: to face moment that they have a little love connection. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and then she's upset, and then of course she jumped
Speaker 1: to the end where it's the awkward junior hiding scene.
Speaker 1: Oh that was that was rough.
Speaker 3: Still the only way I know how to dance.
Speaker 1: That was rough.
Speaker 3: That's it. That's how I dance all the time.
Speaker 1: That's it.
Speaker 3: And it's fun. That is not it. That is not it.
Speaker 2: It's great unless you're listening to the Stairway to Heaven
Speaker 2: and then the fast part starts in the middle and
Speaker 2: you don't know where to go from there because.
Speaker 1: You do it.
Speaker 2: My wife and I no joke, My wife and I
Speaker 2: at least once a week we awkward seventh grade dance
Speaker 2: in our kitchen.
Speaker 1: I love it.
Speaker 3: So we still do that all the time. Here's the
Speaker 3: other thing.
Speaker 2: At one point during this film, the dad, we've We've
Speaker 2: established the dad is kind of the jerk the entire time,
Speaker 2: trying to save him, but is again trying to keep
Speaker 2: him away from his grandfather, who seems to be actually
Speaker 2: a wonderful influence on him.
Speaker 3: He's obviously dealing with his own issues with his dad.
Speaker 2: Those can be very real and tough, but they get
Speaker 2: to the point where both Johnny and Sam feel like
Speaker 2: they can't stay anymore, and they just cut to a
Speaker 2: beach in Hawaii and apparently they have.
Speaker 3: Rowed away on a military transport.
Speaker 1: Which has got to be against the law in a bouta.
Speaker 2: If anybody knows the military, it's pretty easy to sneak
Speaker 2: on to a military trap.
Speaker 1: And it's like an eleven hour flight there. There's got
Speaker 1: to be so many laws that that breaks. Oh man,
Speaker 1: just such epic ways. And it's just even with the parents.
Speaker 1: I mean, you would think Sam's dad would be livid,
Speaker 1: like living kean out.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he just got a promotion.
Speaker 1: He just got a promotion, and now his son has
Speaker 1: not only gone, but has taken another civilian. What did
Speaker 1: he what did he call his his civilian? His cities?
Speaker 3: Yep, his cities are the clothes I gotta put on
Speaker 3: my cities.
Speaker 1: Cities. I don't know if that's a real word. I
Speaker 1: want to is it.
Speaker 2: That's well, that's what that's what they call it. It's
Speaker 2: like I gotta take off your uniform and put on
Speaker 2: your cities. And so my dad was in the navy, Okay, okay,
Speaker 2: and there there is a the sub base near us
Speaker 2: in Groton, Connecticut is the base that I used to
Speaker 2: spend my time on, so I know that we would
Speaker 2: get dependent cards, So you could get a dependent card
Speaker 2: to get on and off the base like you were
Speaker 2: the dependent of somebody who was in the military. So
Speaker 2: Sam definitely could have gotten on base, not a problem.
Speaker 2: I think he probably could have brought his friend. So
Speaker 2: that part is very plausible. Okay, But then the idea
Speaker 2: that they're stowing awaywing away, I'm like a C one
Speaker 2: thirty or some kind of plane that is going to
Speaker 2: take them eleven hours to Hawaii to where they're then
Speaker 2: just walking on the beach. Then you got to land
Speaker 2: at the military base. You got to sneak off the plane.
Speaker 2: You gotta get It's a whole nother Disney movie.
Speaker 1: And there's no ubers. How are you getting around? I
Speaker 1: mean maybe a taxi? Do they have taxis that come
Speaker 1: from the base. I don't know, But.
Speaker 2: They specifically said they don't have any money, So how
Speaker 2: did they get from I mean I'm guessing did they
Speaker 2: say where he lived in Hawaii?
Speaker 1: No, I don't believe so.
Speaker 3: So if you live close to Pearl, if you live
Speaker 3: close to Pearl Harbor.
Speaker 2: I mean maybe then they can they could get a
Speaker 2: lift from there with it.
Speaker 1: No, I yeah, it's it's extraordinary. I mean those are
Speaker 1: just for that to really happen. And again, just like
Speaker 1: we saw with like Descendants, how quickly it is taken in.
Speaker 1: Someone gets a little upset and we move right along.
Speaker 1: That's it. Boom boom done. Like that's just it's just
Speaker 1: right along and we just can continue, you know. I
Speaker 1: was it almost got me. I was definitely thinking, now
Speaker 1: I'm here for his grandpa because he seems cool, but
Speaker 1: you're not gonna call the parents? And then sure enough,
Speaker 1: next scene he's on phone with parents. But so the
Speaker 1: talk with the dad and the grandpa, I was cracking
Speaker 1: up because this grandpa was like, yeah, I'm not going
Speaker 1: to do that. Your your idea of how this is
Speaker 1: going to go down doesn't really work with me, so
Speaker 1: bye click. I mean it was so I think of
Speaker 1: my parents with with Monroe now right, they are so
Speaker 1: both of the sets of grandparents are really catering to
Speaker 1: my needs of how to how I want a parent
Speaker 1: Monroe and stuff. And this is not the case Johnny
Speaker 1: Johnny's Unami and his son not the case at all.
Speaker 1: I mean, it could be to the point where I
Speaker 1: can say Mom or Dad, no more cookies. Okay. I
Speaker 1: know chocolate chip cookies as a papa thing, but sometimes
Speaker 1: it's just too much. And my dad will say, okay,
Speaker 1: this did not happen.
Speaker 2: Then No, that was like, hey, my son stowed away
Speaker 2: on eleven hour flight, can you please send him back
Speaker 2: or at least put him on the phone with me.
Speaker 3: And he's like, no, he's sleeping.
Speaker 1: He wouldn't even put him on the phone. He's safe,
Speaker 1: he's sleeping, and he's here. I got him. Bite.
Speaker 3: Okay.
Speaker 2: So we get finally to the you know, the end
Speaker 2: of the film, and they do the great Disney Channel
Speaker 2: thing where you've got it, We're going to race for
Speaker 2: the mountain.
Speaker 1: Yea.
Speaker 3: I loved that his grandfather came with him back to Vermont.
Speaker 2: I also loved because it's and I know some people
Speaker 2: are like, come on, that's not real that he hopped
Speaker 2: on a snowboard right away and was great at it.
Speaker 2: But there is a very famous video of Tony Hawk
Speaker 2: the first time he ever snowboarded.
Speaker 3: He was doing tricks and flips like, oh, for.
Speaker 2: Sure, because you've got the moves down, so he knows
Speaker 2: what he's doing enough to kind of get the vibe
Speaker 2: of it, so it wasn't.
Speaker 1: Crazy scene and skating is similar enough. And I will
Speaker 1: tell you this. I took Jordan, my husband, to snowboard
Speaker 1: for his first time, and he was better than me
Speaker 1: after the first day, and I was love it. I mean,
Speaker 1: and I'm okay, was he leafing? Was he leaving? He
Speaker 1: didn't have to leave at all. Okay. Sometimes if I
Speaker 1: get on like a black diamond, I'm leafing still because
Speaker 1: I get too nervous.
Speaker 3: And if I'm on a black Diamond, I've woken up
Speaker 3: there by accident.
Speaker 1: He just took off like it was like I was
Speaker 1: sitting down talking teaching him a little bit at bunny slope.
Speaker 1: We were on the bunny slope for maybe an hour
Speaker 1: and then he's like, all right, let's go. And we
Speaker 1: went up to like a long, long, long slope and
Speaker 1: he nailed it and I couldn't. But he's and he
Speaker 1: was killing He's grown up surfing skating.
Speaker 3: You know he was there.
Speaker 2: You go, yeah, So he's got the mechanics, like his
Speaker 2: body knew the movements already.
Speaker 1: I don't know if he would have been as good
Speaker 1: as what Johnny's unami was on the mountain but it's
Speaker 1: definitely safe to say it wouldn't take him long to
Speaker 1: pick it up and be great.
Speaker 3: So he wins. He wins the race.
Speaker 2: That was one of my other little problems I had
Speaker 2: with the movie. I would like to have seen maybe
Speaker 2: maybe one more Johnny getting better snowboarding montage before the race,
Speaker 2: before the race, because we kind of went from the
Speaker 2: first time where Sam is teaching him where he can
Speaker 2: tell he can get up and kind of maneuver, but
Speaker 2: he's still falling on his face and stuff, which is
Speaker 2: obviously you need, and then the going down to get
Speaker 2: the help when everybody's precariously hanging off the damna.
Speaker 1: He still stumbled a little bit, stumble.
Speaker 2: A little bit, but was able to hit the awesome jumps,
Speaker 2: but was stumbling a little bit.
Speaker 1: He fell.
Speaker 2: They showed that, which is uh huh, a great way
Speaker 2: to show it. When they decide to go to the
Speaker 2: mountain when he gets into the fight with Brett, they
Speaker 2: show them all kind of rolling a little bit, which
Speaker 2: I loved, But then by the end, if they had
Speaker 2: had one more where it was like, hey man, you're
Speaker 2: you're really starting to kill it, Like bra You've really
Speaker 2: picked this up.
Speaker 3: I think that could have been great.
Speaker 1: Well, I think it's pronounced bruh, isn't it bra? Bruh
Speaker 1: not bra like a bra woman wears.
Speaker 2: Really well, they're both very supportive, very supportive of you
Speaker 2: all the way around. Is how I look at it,
Speaker 2: and I think he says bra, he says come on bra.
Speaker 1: Maybe, oh yeah, you know what. I think he does too.
Speaker 1: He does actually pronounce it. But I think, well, nowadays,
Speaker 1: you know, bruh is back.
Speaker 3: I did not know it was ever is back.
Speaker 1: And it's ever gone. They got it left for a while,
Speaker 1: but it is now back. I just did a week
Speaker 1: with some high school girls that were my song. He's
Speaker 1: my girls. I love watching them dance the amount of
Speaker 1: times I heard bruh, and they they called their moms
Speaker 1: that yahruh. I'm like, unbelievably, still call your mother, bray Man.
Speaker 1: But yes, so I do agree. However, we've got to
Speaker 1: go back to we felt, you know, Descendants felt a
Speaker 1: little long. It is longer than that ninety Would that
Speaker 1: have pushed us over the edge into possibly possible? I
Speaker 1: mean they but I'm sure they had enough footage to
Speaker 1: do another scene if they wanted to, right.
Speaker 2: I just loved because the music and the montage of them.
Speaker 2: I think I just wanted another one of those because.
Speaker 1: They were the best parts of the movie. I really
Speaker 1: do think I loved they were so good. I loved
Speaker 1: watching that sport and what they did with it.
Speaker 3: We loved it. But did everyone else? Is the question.
Speaker 2: So I think it's time we hop into our real reviews.
Speaker 2: As you know, we take real reviews from the internet machine.
Speaker 2: We do a five star review and we do a
Speaker 2: one star review.
Speaker 1: Do you have a.
Speaker 3: Preference what you're gonna read today, Sabrina? What would you
Speaker 3: rather do?
Speaker 1: I will do the one stuff?
Speaker 2: Okay, you got it, So I will start with the
Speaker 2: five star review. This is by Stellar Motion. It's a
Speaker 2: good family movie. So for the first time when I
Speaker 2: was about thirteen, and then again a few years ago
Speaker 2: with my family, it still holds up.
Speaker 3: Solid review all the way around.
Speaker 1: Nice Nice the one star skies. I'm disappointed that Johnny
Speaker 1: doesn't shoot waves out of his peepee. Yeah, okay, I'm.
Speaker 2: Gone my entire review. I'm disappointed that Johnny doesn't shoot
Speaker 2: waves out of his peepy. Someone took the time.
Speaker 3: To rite nice to write that review.
Speaker 2: Okay, I I just all right, it's absolutely, that is
Speaker 2: a real review.
Speaker 1: And by the way, I agree.
Speaker 2: I just want to say, as I make some some
Speaker 2: yellow snow, it's crazy, so weird.
Speaker 3: That is so weird.
Speaker 2: But we are moving on now from that peepee related
Speaker 2: review to our three and a half fact section, where
Speaker 2: as you all know, three of the facts that we
Speaker 2: will say are completely real and half fact or the
Speaker 2: half fact is something that we've heard but cannot verify.
Speaker 2: So the first one we actually talked about this a
Speaker 2: little bit. The character the grandfather, who played Johnny Tsunami,
Speaker 2: is Carrie hiro Yuki Tagawa, and he is only nine
Speaker 2: years older than Juji Okamoto, who was Johnny's dead.
Speaker 3: Yes, so yeah, the grandfather.
Speaker 2: The actors who were playing grandfather and dad were nine
Speaker 2: years part.
Speaker 1: Did you feel that red on TV? Did you feel
Speaker 1: that they looked I just felt they looked close in age.
Speaker 2: But I also it wasn't so jarring for me that
Speaker 2: I was like, oh man, this was poorly cast.
Speaker 1: Okay, I felt the same.
Speaker 3: I also like these two actors so much that I
Speaker 3: frankly didn't care.
Speaker 1: Excited to see them on the channel, right, that's awesome, Yeah.
Speaker 2: And excited to see them together and together you know,
Speaker 2: they've been in so many things that I've loved that
Speaker 2: I was. I was good with it. So that's that's
Speaker 2: the first one that the two actors rolling nine years.
Speaker 1: Apart, all right. The second one very odd coincidence. Yuji
Speaker 1: Okamoto also played the main villain in Karate Kid two,
Speaker 1: which we talked about, and his co star Mary Page Keller,
Speaker 1: who plays his wife in this is married to Thomas
Speaker 1: Ian Griffith in real life. He was the main villain
Speaker 1: in Karate Kid three.
Speaker 3: Our third real fact.
Speaker 2: We already talked about some of the obvious differences between
Speaker 2: the actors and the stunt doubles. Also, when the actor
Speaker 2: playing Johnny Tsunami is snowboarding, his snowboarded goofy foot, so
Speaker 2: that's the other way around.
Speaker 3: That's left front.
Speaker 2: But when the scene cuts to the more skilled moves,
Speaker 2: he's writing regular.
Speaker 1: Oh so his stunt double was a regular.
Speaker 3: His stunt double was a regular. Oh.
Speaker 2: And now do you want to do our half fact,
Speaker 2: which we're that sure as real at all and could
Speaker 2: just be spreading rumors in the world.
Speaker 1: We could be spreading rumors. I'm a little nervous to
Speaker 1: do this.
Speaker 3: This is a good one. This is a good rumor spreader.
Speaker 1: All right, Brandon Baker, who played young Johnny made out
Speaker 1: with his love interest. Is that now if this is wrong,
Speaker 1: that's what I'm saying. I'm kind of scared to say.
Speaker 1: He claims it in a recent interview. But for confirmation,
Speaker 1: we're gonna need to hear from herself.
Speaker 2: We are, so hopefully we get a chance to ask her,
Speaker 2: because that's when we could be just spreading rumors. Uh.
Speaker 2: The utterly Irredeemable bad guy is another trope because you
Speaker 2: get a lot of movies again. Go back to Croyd
Speaker 2: a Kid, where at the end Johnny comes up to
Speaker 2: to Daniel and kind of says, hey, lusso, good match.
Speaker 2: You know in this movie, Brett don't care at all
Speaker 2: about this guy.
Speaker 3: He's never gonna like the next day at school is
Speaker 3: still gonna suck for Johnny. This has changed.
Speaker 1: Nothing has changed nothing anything. It might get worse, right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's what I thought about.
Speaker 3: I mean, it's very strange.
Speaker 2: He's not gonna he keeps cheating all the time, knocking
Speaker 2: him over, pushing him down the hill. Now his best
Speaker 2: friend bails on him and becomes friends with Johnny.
Speaker 1: Great also mentions earlier on that he's tried snowboarding before
Speaker 1: that best friend does he I don't remember that, dang it.
Speaker 1: That was one of my sprightest seas. I jumped nice
Speaker 1: you can't.
Speaker 3: Jump the gun, he do.
Speaker 1: They talk about that, he he has tried before, like
Speaker 1: he did it, and he that did or the other guy. No,
Speaker 1: the other guy, the friend.
Speaker 2: Well yeah, because well though they show the friend. Remember
Speaker 2: he stands on the board in front of the thing
Speaker 2: and shoots out from underneath him. And that's why he says,
Speaker 2: I'm never getting on.
Speaker 3: One of them.
Speaker 1: Oh is that all they're saying.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that's what they mean.
Speaker 1: Oh, all right, he's just cheating at every like single possibility,
Speaker 1: pushing all of that. He he takes his magazine. He
Speaker 1: throws it away like a jerk. I was so upset
Speaker 1: that he loaned him, which he loaned me. He's like,
Speaker 1: just give it back when you're done, Bro, Just not necessary. Bro,
Speaker 1: You're just too much, you know. And then it leads
Speaker 1: up to one of the things I was going to
Speaker 1: bring up a little bit in Sabritas's I had a
Speaker 1: quite kind of kind of a lot long list, But
Speaker 1: are there many fights with an actual punch to the
Speaker 1: face in Disney Channel movie. I thought the same thing
Speaker 1: caught me off guard.
Speaker 3: There was an.
Speaker 2: Actual punch, an actual punch. There was an actual punch.
Speaker 3: I agree. I don't know if that that was done before,
Speaker 3: but I don't.
Speaker 1: Think I remember seeing those happening in Disney Channel movies
Speaker 1: like now. I agree, pushing and whatever and maybe getting
Speaker 1: each other's face, but an actual punch.
Speaker 2: I I don't think we'd ever seen that.
Speaker 3: I agree.
Speaker 2: There is one thing I want to start doing because
Speaker 2: I think it's going to be very important.
Speaker 3: And we'll do we'll do it quickly.
Speaker 2: Okay, but we've got to start rating or ranking our
Speaker 2: Disney villains from from the movies that we've seen.
Speaker 3: So I want to ask you.
Speaker 1: I love this. I'm so I'm so excited. Here we go.
Speaker 2: Yes, Val from Brink uh huh, Moleficent, the bad biker
Speaker 2: flirting guy in President's Daughter, and Brett that we've just seen.
Speaker 3: How do you rank those? Let's say, most bad to lease.
Speaker 1: Bad, most bad to lease bad.
Speaker 3: Okay, and we're gonna keep We're gonna keep track of this. Okay,
Speaker 3: So you got to put Molficent as the worst?
Speaker 2: Right?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Wait, you mean like.
Speaker 3: She's the most bad.
Speaker 1: She's the most bad, yeah, because she was really trying
Speaker 1: to ruin everyone's life.
Speaker 3: And she's also like magically bad.
Speaker 1: Yes, so there's no doubt that she could do. I mean,
Speaker 1: she became a dragon.
Speaker 3: So it's like, I agree, you know, how do you.
Speaker 1: Fight that can't can't really do it? The next one
Speaker 1: up would be what I feel like, the biker guys
Speaker 1: were scary because they could really happen, that could really
Speaker 1: you could really be chased around.
Speaker 2: So I think, no, we're talking about We're talking about Steve,
Speaker 2: because it's got to be one guy.
Speaker 1: Steve. Oh, Steve, biker guy. I thought I was more
Speaker 1: terrified about those truckers that were coming.
Speaker 3: I know, but I think's got to be the bad guy.
Speaker 2: And I'm gonna be honest, there was Steve seemed like
Speaker 2: he had some pretty awful things in mind for Hallie,
Speaker 2: not letting her out of the house and stuff, So
Speaker 2: I would honestly put him as next most bad, right
Speaker 2: love it?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah, and then this guy.
Speaker 2: And then this guy and then Val No, and then
Speaker 2: Val and then this I agree. Okay, so Malificen is
Speaker 2: the worst, Steve is second worst, Brett and then.
Speaker 1: Val is third, and then Brett's the least. I mean,
Speaker 1: he just was like a like a rich kid pompous,
Speaker 1: wasn't really I was Val scared me, Like I thought,
Speaker 1: just one little click of a switch and we might
Speaker 1: see a real crazy psycho from Val.
Speaker 3: I agree with you, he could go.
Speaker 1: Real crazy real quick.
Speaker 2: I felt like Maleficent's the worst, Steve is the next worst.
Speaker 2: Val is the next worst, and then Brett is the
Speaker 2: is the final guy?
Speaker 1: Yes, okay, I like, all right, that's wonder keep.
Speaker 3: Well, keep track. That's our list so far.
Speaker 2: But we also have to talk about one of the
Speaker 2: best parts of this movie is a name. Johnny Sunami
Speaker 2: is pretty much one of the most wonderful names, uh
Speaker 2: in Disney Channel original movie history.
Speaker 3: But is it the best name in Disney Channel original history.
Speaker 2: So let's, for instance, Johnny Tsunami or Jackal Johnson from
Speaker 2: The Cheetah Girls.
Speaker 1: What wins there, sh Jackal Jackal Johnson?
Speaker 3: You think Jackal wins that one?
Speaker 1: Yes?
Speaker 2: Okay, So Johnny Tsunami or Chad Charming from The Descendants.
Speaker 1: Johnny agreed, Chad Charming didn't didn't hit me too hard.
Speaker 2: Here's when we have not watched yet, but we've done
Speaker 2: research on Johnny Tsunami or Movie Mason from Phantom of
Speaker 2: the Megaplex.
Speaker 1: Ooh, I forgot about that name.
Speaker 3: Okay, all right, which one?
Speaker 1: Geez, I guess Movie Mason.
Speaker 3: You think you like that more than Johnny Tsunami.
Speaker 1: Well, I don't like any of them more than Johnny.
Speaker 1: It's my favorite movie, I know, but we're talking just no,
Speaker 1: i'd have to say Johnny Sunami. Yeah, Johnny.
Speaker 2: Okay, So Johnny Sunami over Movie Mason, Johnny Tsunami or
Speaker 2: mister Fister.
Speaker 1: Now that's just going over lucky Dog.
Speaker 3: Mister Fister, I don't.
Speaker 1: Even know you lucky Dog. That is a terrible sentence
Speaker 1: that I cannot believe in the Disney Channel world.
Speaker 2: Agree, I'm picking Johnny Ssunami just because I don't ever
Speaker 2: want to meet a mister Fister.
Speaker 1: I don't even want to do this movie, I know,
Speaker 1: but we don't want to have to say that.
Speaker 3: Over your lucky Dog. But we are going to say, mister.
Speaker 1: You know what's not on this list is Drink a
Speaker 1: Champagne from The Cheetah Girls.
Speaker 3: Drink a Champagne is great too, that.
Speaker 1: That name was, and just champagne in general. On the
Speaker 1: channel was kind of funny.
Speaker 3: I drink a champagne is a good one too. Okay,
Speaker 3: well this list, because there's going to be a great ones.
Speaker 1: There's gonna be a ton more.
Speaker 3: We covered all your sabrinacies.
Speaker 1: No we did not. So one of them, I would say,
Speaker 1: was the hat that Sam he ends up getting, yeah,
Speaker 1: and that Sam says he has.
Speaker 3: To earn and then he kind of earns it.
Speaker 1: Right. It didn't really follow it. It didn't really seem
Speaker 1: except for it just made it harder to distinguish which
Speaker 1: was Sam and which was Johnny when they were on
Speaker 1: the mountains, like it really kind of was just lost.
Speaker 3: I think anything to cover their face, anything.
Speaker 1: At that point, right, anything to you know. That kind
Speaker 1: of was one of the things. The one of the
Speaker 1: sabrinacities that I really was kind of interested in was
Speaker 1: we talk about characters that kind of just don't get
Speaker 1: developed and like you see them, you feel like they're
Speaker 1: gonna be really high importance and then they kind of are.
Speaker 1: Could have had more was the two brothers that we
Speaker 1: end up realizing at the end. First of all, that
Speaker 1: totally got me. I don't remember that part at all.
Speaker 3: I can remember either.
Speaker 1: I kept going, why did see you look familiar? He does,
Speaker 1: But if anything, it just made me start thinking, why
Speaker 1: is he important? You know? And again I get it
Speaker 1: what the importance is, but I feel like that character,
Speaker 1: especially the one, the snowboarding shop character, yeah, was so good.
Speaker 1: They should have given him more. Like, I really believe
Speaker 1: they should have given him more in the movie.
Speaker 2: I think it was to show that that it was
Speaker 2: even between brothers, they were split apart Sky and Urchin, Right,
Speaker 2: you know, that was that, you know, That's what I said.
Speaker 1: I understood, but I felt there he could have had
Speaker 1: one or two extra scenes. Okay, that like that actor
Speaker 1: killed that character so good?
Speaker 3: I think so too.
Speaker 1: So those besides the other thing, I had a really
Speaker 1: hard time with the house that Johnny Tsunami the Beach Bomb.
Speaker 3: Lived, his very wealthy house.
Speaker 1: The idea how they got there to Hawaii seemed outrageous yep.
Speaker 1: And then my last one was the metal that he's wearing. Well,
Speaker 1: he's snowboarding and all of a sudden, at the perfect
Speaker 1: opportunity to just make the stakes higher of this raise boom. Yeah. Okay.
Speaker 1: I've spent lots of time with Sean Johnson, Olympic athlete
Speaker 1: eleven gymnasts. Yes, you did dancing with the stars at
Speaker 1: sea together. Okay, she never once pulled out that that
Speaker 1: gold medal, so I'm not sure if it just is
Speaker 1: unrealistic to have a medal on at all times.
Speaker 2: He just wanted to snowboard with it. Apparently, just keep
Speaker 2: it with you just in case.
Speaker 1: Crazy. I just that killed me. That was a bust
Speaker 1: out laughing, like, why why are you wearing it?
Speaker 3: I didn't even think about it?
Speaker 2: So yeah, another good Sabrina Sea is why are you
Speaker 2: wearing your giant heavy metal while you're snow while.
Speaker 1: You're snowboarding out of nowhere?
Speaker 2: Well, it is now that time of the program in
Speaker 2: which we are going to rate the film.
Speaker 3: How do you think we should rate this?
Speaker 2: Should this be one on attend hijacked military planes or
Speaker 2: bruhs Hawaiian shirts? I like surf surf metals that you
Speaker 2: shouldn't be carrying with you as you're actually snowboarding surf metals.
Speaker 2: I like hijacked military planes too.
Speaker 1: I love it and I'm sold on it.
Speaker 3: So what do you got?
Speaker 1: You go first? I need you to go first. I
Speaker 1: feel like I always go first.
Speaker 3: You gotta do it fair enough.
Speaker 1: I liked this movie.
Speaker 2: Okay, I had very small little problems with it. I
Speaker 2: liked this movie. I would give this a solid eight.
Speaker 2: Hijacked military planes. I really enjoyed it. I thought his
Speaker 2: character was super likable. I thought the story was great,
Speaker 2: moving a kid, a Hawaiian kid who's grown up on
Speaker 2: the beach, moving him all the way to Vermont.
Speaker 3: I thought that was great.
Speaker 2: Again, typical some typical Disney Channel tropes that you're going
Speaker 2: to see all the time.
Speaker 3: But overall, I really like, I enjoyed this movie. It
Speaker 3: was a good watch, it really was.
Speaker 2: And I thought Lee Thompson Young was really really good
Speaker 2: in this movie. And I thought he shined a bit
Speaker 2: in this film. Played a great best friend. I loved
Speaker 2: his range when he was getting angry at some of
Speaker 2: the you know, his kind of Johnny had to hold
Speaker 2: him back.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but I also loved Johnny.
Speaker 2: I love they did things in this movie that a
Speaker 2: lot of kids don't do and need to. Like with
Speaker 2: Johnny sharing the magazine, I keep going back to that,
Speaker 2: but like, hey, just take it and give it back
Speaker 2: to me when you're done thanking Lee. So rarely do
Speaker 2: you see these characters when they're lying on the bed
Speaker 2: and they're just talking and he's showing him surf videos.
Speaker 3: He just turns from me.
Speaker 2: He's like, I just want to thank you for kind
Speaker 2: of being my friend and taking.
Speaker 3: Me under your wing.
Speaker 2: And he's like, hey, don't worry about it, manifact that's
Speaker 2: it's nice to see characters talk like that where it's
Speaker 2: like I want to just take a moment to just
Speaker 2: thank you for hanging out.
Speaker 3: With me and being my buddy. I really liked it.
Speaker 3: I liked the characters. I liked the acting. The music
Speaker 3: was great.
Speaker 2: I could watch snow good snowboarding scenes and surfing scenes
Speaker 2: all day long. So I was in solid eight hijack
Speaker 2: military planes.
Speaker 3: How about you.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go with the nine. I loved the movie
Speaker 1: back in the day. I loved watching it again we
Speaker 1: are in. I just I think it's it's a feel
Speaker 1: good movie. Like you said that, that scene for whatever
Speaker 1: with me also resonated the just appreciating and showing kids
Speaker 1: that you know, to have conversations and it be okay
Speaker 1: to thank them, you know, for doing something that you
Speaker 1: really really appreciated. I loved the idea that that brought
Speaker 1: in the storyline of him, you know, going I've been
Speaker 1: the new been there over and over again, and it's hard,
Speaker 1: you know. And I think, especially at this age that
Speaker 1: the kids are in, so much of life is hard.
Speaker 1: High school's tough, being different is tough. All of that
Speaker 1: is big. And I just love that part of the storyline,
Speaker 1: which I don't think I ever really fully connected, and
Speaker 1: so watching it, I think that's my uh my mama
Speaker 1: bear watching it, you know, type of thing, if that's
Speaker 1: whatever happens to my kids. But yeah, I thought all
Speaker 1: of the characters were great. I thought the actors did
Speaker 1: an awesome job. One small critique that would take it
Speaker 1: away from being like a nine point five would just
Speaker 1: be the obvious stunt doubles. That's the only thing. Again,
Speaker 1: Back then, though, when I was twelve thirteen watching this,
Speaker 1: it didn't didn't affect me. Now a little older, it
Speaker 1: took a little bit of the sparkle from it for me.
Speaker 1: But other than that, love love love, will watch it again,
Speaker 1: I know for sure, you know, all right, maybe tomorrow.
Speaker 2: Sure, So, Johnny Tsunami, Brock, you gotta watch whenever you can.
Speaker 2: Johnny Sinami, we have just watched another good Disney Channel movie.
Speaker 2: Solid all the way around the nineties. Man, the nineties
Speaker 2: had some great Disney Channel movies, so thank you so
Speaker 2: much for joining.
Speaker 1: We gotta watch one that's not so good. We gotta watch,
Speaker 1: we gotta find oh hey, we gotta search one that
Speaker 1: maybe is on the not great.
Speaker 2: Our next movie, Yes, join us. Yes, we are watching
Speaker 2: The Tower of Terror next. So can't wait. We are
Speaker 2: getting into it now. We have had some great movies
Speaker 2: and we are going to continue to have great movies,
Speaker 2: so thank you so much once again for joining us.
Speaker 2: Go back and watch Johnny Tsunami again and count the
Speaker 2: number of times these kids almost die crazy Tower of
Speaker 2: Terror if you want to join us, by the way,
Speaker 2: and watching it.
Speaker 3: It is on YouTube.
Speaker 2: That was one of the ones we were able to find,
Speaker 2: so yeah, give it a watch and then join us
Speaker 2: to recap it.
Speaker 3: We really can't wait.
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Speaker 2: on Instagram. Thank you so much, Sabrina. It's been wonderful
Speaker 2: seeing you again and I will see you next time
Speaker 2: for the Tower of Terror.
Speaker 1: Bye everybody, Bye,