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Speaker 1: Welcome to Truth Pounds, a production of I Heart Radio.

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Speaker 1: I'm Anna and I've been unemployed for about a year now,

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Speaker 1: so I really have nothing going on. And I'm Kyle.

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Speaker 1: In middle school, I received the award most Enthusiastic to Learn,

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Speaker 1: So that makes me pretty special. And that is what

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Speaker 1: makes us the perfect investigative duo. We are two friends

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Speaker 1: who love each other very much. But what we love

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Speaker 1: even more is getting to the bottom of mysteries. All mysteries, sure,

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Speaker 1: but small mysteries specifically. Trust me, No mystery is too small. No, no, no,

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Speaker 1: Why don't you trust me when I tell you we

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Speaker 1: are ready to sniff around? We are the True Pounds.

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Speaker 1: M helloa, hey Kyle, Hey, hey, um it's it's Anna.

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Speaker 1: Oh hey hey, are you busy right now? Um? Well

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Speaker 1: I was actually just about to step out, but what's up. Well, um,

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Speaker 1: we need to talk. I'll be right there. Thank you

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Speaker 1: so much for meeting me here. Yeah, no problem. There

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Speaker 1: was a lot of traffic. Yeah, but I mean, I mean,

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Speaker 1: look at this, like the way that the sky hits

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Speaker 1: the water. It just you kind of can't tell where

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Speaker 1: one ends and the other one begins. It It's just

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Speaker 1: it's so beautiful out here. It really was beautiful. Honestly,

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Speaker 1: you should go over there right now, Kyle, Well, we

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Speaker 1: want them to finish listening to the podcast, right, yeah,

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Speaker 1: you're right. Anyway back to it. I brought you here

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Speaker 1: to talk because I had a feeling that you wanted

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Speaker 1: to talk to me about something. Yeah, something actually happened

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Speaker 1: the other day. I was walking down my street and

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Speaker 1: a butterfly fell on my nose. I'm sorry, a butterfly

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Speaker 1: fell on your nose? Oh, I mean landed on my

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Speaker 1: nose and then fluttered off. That sounds amazing. It was amazing.

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Speaker 1: It was beautiful. It was this amazing moment, and so

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Speaker 1: I had to tell someone around me, and I actually

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Speaker 1: tried to call you. You did, yeah, you didn't pick up. Oh,

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Speaker 1: I'm so sorry. It's fine. So I had to tell someone.

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Speaker 1: So I looked to my left and I see my

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Speaker 1: neighbor standing on his portion. So I go, did you

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Speaker 1: see that? Right? Okay? Yeah? No response? What? Yeah? He

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Speaker 1: hear me. He probably just didn't hear you. So I

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Speaker 1: asked again, did you see that butterfly that landed on

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Speaker 1: my nose? And f the law, okay, Yeah, And this

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Speaker 1: time he goes back into his house and shut the door.

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Speaker 1: It was so mean. I couldn't believe it. Kyle, I'm

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Speaker 1: so so sorry. Are you okay? And I had hurt

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Speaker 1: my feelings? That breaks my heart to hear. Why is

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Speaker 1: this man so mean to me? Why is anyone mean

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Speaker 1: to anyone? So I guess in essence, what you're asking is,

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Speaker 1: why are some people mean? Yeah? Episode two? Why are

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Speaker 1: some people mean? Our first instinct to crack this investigation

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Speaker 1: open was to talk to someone who identified as mean,

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Speaker 1: and if they were famous, that didn't hurt. We reached

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Speaker 1: out to a local celebrity and sat down for an interview.

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Speaker 1: We wanted this interview to be legit. I mean, like

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Speaker 1: Kyle said, we were dealing with the celebrity. We prepared

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Speaker 1: by studying a Charlie Rose interview meticulously, not that it mattered,

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Speaker 1: but it was with Edgier, and we noticed that Charlie

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Speaker 1: best questions and sat down with the celebrity in question

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Speaker 1: via zoom. Of course, we'll let her introduce herself. Hi,

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Speaker 1: I'm Karen Kilgareth. If Karen, you are a multi hyphen

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Speaker 1: it incredible talent. You live in Studio City, which is

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Speaker 1: of course information that is readily available in your Wikipedia page.

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Speaker 1: How do you do it all? I guess I just

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Speaker 1: I get up early. I drink a lot of coffee,

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Speaker 1: A lot of coffee. Now for some tough questions. Okay,

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Speaker 1: I recall is talking a couple of months ago and

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Speaker 1: I said, I'm doing an episode about me, people to

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Speaker 1: which you applied, you should talk to me. I mean, Karen,

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Speaker 1: what is that? Kyle? You know that's just the truth.

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's something that I've known about myself for

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Speaker 1: UM feel they need to be accountable for. UM. I

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Speaker 1: grew up in the eighties, which was a very meantime

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Speaker 1: do it legally and societally. That is incredible an inspiration.

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Speaker 1: Before we let you go, what's on deck for being me?

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Speaker 1: We wanted to find an actual mean person. We wanted

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Speaker 1: but you know what, my friend, all the journalism is

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Speaker 1: So we came up with a plan. Let's find a

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Speaker 1: I don't say this lightly. She looks piste off and

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Speaker 1: But we've all heard the stories underneath that very cool

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Speaker 1: more than ever. Immediately the d m s came flooding in.

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Speaker 1: So to help us can solidate our leads. I set

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Speaker 1: so I let Kyle set up our greeting message. Excitedly,

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Speaker 1: this time, be yourself. You've reached the truth. Hown tip line.

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Speaker 1: The one on display was a Harley Davidson shirt. I

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Speaker 1: as to say is raging against the machine if the

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Speaker 1: machine is I guess capital You're goddamn right, I am, Yeah, absolutely, man,

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Speaker 1: I mean I'm raging against the things that are worth

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Speaker 1: raging against. Okay, this was not at all what we

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Speaker 1: were expecting, Like I didn't want to scare Kyle earlier,

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Speaker 1: but I really thought she would be too delicate to

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Speaker 1: handle Megan. But instead, Megan's words really resonated with Kyle.

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Speaker 1: It was a beautiful sight. Before I knew it. Kyle

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Speaker 1: and Megan had their own things to talk about, like

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Speaker 1: cool lots. Remember Megan's whole cool lot thing. They're too low,

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Speaker 1: They're still not flattering. I was starting to understand Megan

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Speaker 1: and the things that made her tick. We may not

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00:33:08,200 --> 00:33:10,920
Speaker 1: have been mirror images of each other, but we really

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Speaker 1: had a nice common ground. We went to our final destination,

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Speaker 1: the parking lot of a cent only store. We parked

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Speaker 1: our car, sat and talked the thing that separates only

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Speaker 1: from your average dollar store. It's not all just garbage

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00:33:28,720 --> 00:33:31,160
Speaker 1: designed to be in a dollar store. Okay, some of

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00:33:31,160 --> 00:33:33,600
Speaker 1: these are failed products. Some of these are things that

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00:33:33,640 --> 00:33:38,680
Speaker 1: are about to expire, all right, regardless, it's all working

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Speaker 1: people stuff. You got that right, sister, Kyle. What are

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00:33:46,240 --> 00:33:51,800
Speaker 1: you unionizing? And where is it directly across the street

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Speaker 1: from the farmer In case you didn't catch that, When

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00:33:57,960 --> 00:34:01,520
Speaker 1: Megan says far more, she's talking about the farmer's market. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: we know dumb mass, Kyle. Sorry, I was having a

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Speaker 1: little fun. I love you. I love you too. Megan

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Speaker 1: concluded the Right Along with some beautiful perspective. If you

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Speaker 1: want to be mad at stuff, you're always going to

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00:34:24,480 --> 00:34:28,360
Speaker 1: find stuff to be mad at. But sometimes right across

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Speaker 1: the street there's something that you can funk with. Because

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00:34:33,080 --> 00:34:37,520
Speaker 1: remember the only parking lot that we were sitting in,

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Speaker 1: it's quite literally across the street from the farmer, which

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Speaker 1: means Farmer's Market. And I don't want to hear a

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Speaker 1: peep out of you, Kyle. My lips are sealed. If

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Speaker 1: I want to get mad, all I gotta do is

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Speaker 1: cross that street. But I don't feel like crossing that street.

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Speaker 1: I feel like going in that only and getting some cilantro.

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Speaker 1: What do you say, Bravo, Megan, Bravia. Oh sorry, Kyle

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00:35:04,840 --> 00:35:07,480
Speaker 1: took Italian in college and she's been showing me a

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Speaker 1: thing or two in our spare time. The Right Along

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00:35:11,719 --> 00:35:15,960
Speaker 1: was a complete success, except that it really wasn't. In

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Speaker 1: one way, it was incredibly eye opening to see that

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00:35:18,719 --> 00:35:23,080
Speaker 1: Megan was such a multidimensional individual. But as far as

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00:35:23,120 --> 00:35:26,960
Speaker 1: training Kyle to confront a certified mino, and by that

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Speaker 1: I mean mean person, not so much. I love knowing

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Speaker 1: what I knew now, and I loved Megan, you go girl,

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Speaker 1: but I didn't feel ready. I mean, what if I

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00:35:39,840 --> 00:35:41,799
Speaker 1: got to the yogurt chop and the person was so

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Speaker 1: mean to me that I didn't know to say what?

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Speaker 1: Then I'm caught, barrassed and alone. We knew there was

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Speaker 1: only one option. I asked Kyle to meet me back

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Speaker 1: at the beach as soon as possible. Yeah, Hey, thank

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Speaker 1: you so much for meeting me here. Yeah, um, my

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Speaker 1: oil light turned on today. I think I've been driving

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Speaker 1: a lot back and forth to the beach, so I'm

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Speaker 1: so sorry. But I mean, if it helps, it's just

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Speaker 1: so beautiful here. But anyway, so I brought you here

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Speaker 1: to talk and um, who I wanted to tell you

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Speaker 1: is that this episode is actually a two parter what

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Speaker 1: to be continued. Sniff Sniff Truth Hounds is a production

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