1 00:00:02,520 --> 00:00:11,640 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Audio Studios, podcasts, radio news. 2 00:00:14,080 --> 00:00:17,640 Speaker 2: The single best idea on an extraordinary day, it could 3 00:00:17,680 --> 00:00:19,680 Speaker 2: have been. We could have gone six seven hours today 4 00:00:19,720 --> 00:00:22,799 Speaker 2: with this historic legislation in Washington, just to give you 5 00:00:22,800 --> 00:00:25,439 Speaker 2: a little window into it. It's six point fifty nine, 6 00:00:25,520 --> 00:00:28,000 Speaker 2: or maybe six point fifty eight. Nathan Hager announced that 7 00:00:28,040 --> 00:00:30,480 Speaker 2: the gavel was hit. You heard the gavel in the 8 00:00:30,520 --> 00:00:33,680 Speaker 2: House of Representatives off this legislation. We thought it would 9 00:00:33,720 --> 00:00:36,320 Speaker 2: happen later, but it didn't. The news is the news, 10 00:00:36,360 --> 00:00:39,519 Speaker 2: and we blew up the show literally in the countdown 11 00:00:39,560 --> 00:00:43,000 Speaker 2: clock going to the red light at seven zero zero. 12 00:00:43,200 --> 00:00:47,040 Speaker 2: Thank you to Terry Haynes on quick Notice with Pangaea. 13 00:00:47,120 --> 00:00:52,000 Speaker 2: He was spectacular on parsing apart what's going on in 14 00:00:52,159 --> 00:00:55,000 Speaker 2: Washington the path to the Senate. I can't say enough 15 00:00:55,000 --> 00:00:57,520 Speaker 2: about Terry Haynes's value add A LinkedIn. He's got some 16 00:00:57,600 --> 00:01:03,840 Speaker 2: great notes out there, Haynes Ha and Hai Nest Pangea policy. 17 00:01:03,880 --> 00:01:08,040 Speaker 2: Thank you David Gura for multiple appearances today across all 18 00:01:08,160 --> 00:01:11,240 Speaker 2: that we do on the bond market. I wanted to 19 00:01:11,240 --> 00:01:16,760 Speaker 2: get somebody global holistic in and Russell Brownback is just 20 00:01:17,040 --> 00:01:22,320 Speaker 2: fabulous at Blackrock. His notes are incredibly short and brilliant 21 00:01:22,880 --> 00:01:28,040 Speaker 2: and really penetrating about the global nature of higher yields. 22 00:01:28,319 --> 00:01:30,520 Speaker 2: Here now, Russell Brownback. 23 00:01:30,200 --> 00:01:32,560 Speaker 3: We're going to look for the optimal opportunity set. We 24 00:01:32,560 --> 00:01:34,240 Speaker 3: don't think it's at the back end of the curve. 25 00:01:34,360 --> 00:01:37,520 Speaker 3: I will say, you know, there's a lot of barishness 26 00:01:37,560 --> 00:01:40,160 Speaker 3: about term needs to be more term premium. That's a 27 00:01:40,240 --> 00:01:44,000 Speaker 3: very popular trade today. Another great statistic, only eight point 28 00:01:44,160 --> 00:01:47,360 Speaker 3: seven percent of marketable treasuries are twenty years or longer. 29 00:01:47,640 --> 00:01:50,680 Speaker 3: If you think about the long aggregate index twenty years 30 00:01:50,680 --> 00:01:54,120 Speaker 3: and longer, it's less than three trillion in market capitalization. 31 00:01:54,560 --> 00:01:57,720 Speaker 3: You think about long duration assets, pension funds, insurance companies, 32 00:01:58,000 --> 00:02:00,840 Speaker 3: you know estimates of around five trillion. The technicals are 33 00:02:00,840 --> 00:02:04,360 Speaker 3: pretty profound. So you can push the long end of 34 00:02:04,360 --> 00:02:07,520 Speaker 3: the market down in a speculative way. Over the short run, 35 00:02:07,680 --> 00:02:09,519 Speaker 3: it's really hard to keep it down. And you've seen 36 00:02:09,600 --> 00:02:13,480 Speaker 3: this is the third sort of bond vigilante scare quote 37 00:02:13,520 --> 00:02:15,639 Speaker 3: unquote we've had over the past three years. The first 38 00:02:15,639 --> 00:02:18,120 Speaker 3: two didn't really play out. My guess is that this 39 00:02:18,160 --> 00:02:18,880 Speaker 3: one won't either. 40 00:02:19,200 --> 00:02:23,120 Speaker 2: Bronze it. Russell brown Back at Blackrock, I can't say 41 00:02:23,280 --> 00:02:27,000 Speaker 2: enough re listen to that is what after we get 42 00:02:27,000 --> 00:02:30,600 Speaker 2: done with Leslie on energy, re listen to what Russell 43 00:02:30,639 --> 00:02:33,640 Speaker 2: Brownback said there for Global Wall Street and even for 44 00:02:33,720 --> 00:02:36,800 Speaker 2: people that haven't read a thousand pages of Fobosi, what 45 00:02:36,960 --> 00:02:39,440 Speaker 2: he just said there is critical and I'm going to 46 00:02:39,480 --> 00:02:42,560 Speaker 2: make it clear. This goes back to Lawrence MacDonald two 47 00:02:42,639 --> 00:02:47,800 Speaker 2: three years ago about the absolute wall of money out there, 48 00:02:48,440 --> 00:02:51,519 Speaker 2: like an insurance companies. You know, big, big, big money 49 00:02:52,320 --> 00:02:55,280 Speaker 2: has to find a warm place. That's what Russell was 50 00:02:55,280 --> 00:02:58,880 Speaker 2: talking about. And there's a Templeton said years ago a 51 00:02:59,000 --> 00:03:02,360 Speaker 2: shortage of bands. There's no shortage of interest in what 52 00:03:02,480 --> 00:03:05,840 Speaker 2: Leslie Poltic Guzman says. She's with Energy Vista out of 53 00:03:05,880 --> 00:03:11,240 Speaker 2: Seance Poe and Fletcher Tofts just extraordinary. And the geopolitics 54 00:03:11,280 --> 00:03:14,080 Speaker 2: of energy here is Leslie party Guzman. 55 00:03:14,240 --> 00:03:17,000 Speaker 1: You know it was a very few like well fueled 56 00:03:17,200 --> 00:03:22,680 Speaker 1: pr campaign. We haven't heard any criticism. And if I 57 00:03:22,680 --> 00:03:25,760 Speaker 1: can use this stage, you know, for me, putting so 58 00:03:25,919 --> 00:03:28,960 Speaker 1: much wealth into the hands of Katar is not a 59 00:03:28,960 --> 00:03:34,440 Speaker 1: good idea because Katar has strong ties with Iran. Katar 60 00:03:34,520 --> 00:03:38,640 Speaker 1: has financed the Muslim Brotherhood. By the way, France came 61 00:03:38,640 --> 00:03:42,520 Speaker 1: out with a report this week from government officials pointing 62 00:03:42,520 --> 00:03:45,640 Speaker 1: out the financing of Katar to the Muslim brotherhoods in 63 00:03:45,720 --> 00:03:48,600 Speaker 1: Friends specifically, but all over Europe and other countries. Right, 64 00:03:48,960 --> 00:03:52,880 Speaker 1: Jordan had just kicked out the Muslim Brotherhood. Katar has 65 00:03:52,920 --> 00:03:55,320 Speaker 1: hosted and shelter a Dahamas Leslie Party. 66 00:03:55,360 --> 00:03:59,960 Speaker 2: Guzman there with energy vista across nation on your commune. 67 00:04:00,200 --> 00:04:03,000 Speaker 2: Thank you so much for your attention. Special thanks to 68 00:04:03,040 --> 00:04:07,000 Speaker 2: Brian Shortsleeve, Republican candidate for governor in Boston. 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