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Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. This is Mick shot

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Speaker 1: streaming live on Dallascowboys dot Com and the official Dallas

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Speaker 1: Cowboys at.

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Speaker 2: Now Here are Bill Jones, Heckma Harrison, Everson, Wolves, and

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Speaker 2: Mickey Spagnola.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, it.

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Speaker 4: Seems like that seems like a year ago.

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Speaker 5: Wow, he just said that we should be Selln't believe it.

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Speaker 6: We should be selling. Don't know where about to? Oh

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Speaker 6: oh we are, because you're about to celebrate. We are

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Speaker 6: gonna celebrate right now?

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Speaker 3: What man?

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Speaker 7: Here it is.

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Speaker 6: It's time for a victory man.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, Oh, let's do it again.

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Speaker 6: I'll start.

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Speaker 4: He'll go on twenty four and Mickey number where you

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Speaker 4: thirty three?

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Speaker 6: Twenty four?

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Speaker 5: Do not deserve Kareem's number. I think it was seventy. Yeah,

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Speaker 5: he was seventy three.

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Speaker 7: Seventy three, now thirty nine.

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Speaker 4: I'm gonna I just ran across the picture you have

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Speaker 4: in my junior high basketball uniform.

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Speaker 7: Come on, man, you gotta do as Monday.

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Speaker 3: We got it, man, we got we all man.

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Speaker 6: Beat the team that you wrote a book about.

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Speaker 4: I had thirty three before he did.

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Speaker 3: Okay, yes, you did, Yes, you, that's great.

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Speaker 6: Did he have thirty three at Power Memorial? I don't believe.

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Speaker 6: I don't know, all right, or you sal Power Memorial

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Speaker 6: came before U c l A.

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Speaker 3: Oh that's yeah, yeah, all.

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Speaker 6: Right, So here we are. Yes, Mickey did write the

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Speaker 6: book on the Dallas Washington rivalry and the new chapter

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Speaker 6: on Christmas Day.

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Speaker 4: I don't know if that gamefied.

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Speaker 6: First in eighty six yard touchdown pass? What do you mean?

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Speaker 7: Yeah knows, he knows. I don't nobody know. He knows it?

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Speaker 3: Now, Hell you turn the TV off after that?

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Speaker 7: Yeah, they can pack it up this.

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Speaker 4: And all all I do. I see him catching on

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Speaker 4: the run.

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Speaker 3: He gone, ain't he gone?

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Speaker 7: All right?

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Speaker 4: And I saw a seventy two yard run also.

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Speaker 6: By Bill Bill? So how many watched it live? What

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Speaker 6: do you mean you watch the game?

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Speaker 4: What's your game?

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Speaker 8: I know you did?

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Speaker 6: You were the okay? Confused Christmas at now? Oh no,

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Speaker 6: I've got to work around the family.

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Speaker 3: I had to.

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Speaker 6: I had it on and then the family again, the.

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Speaker 9: Family getting away, kids come out, The family arrived at

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Speaker 9: the house at halftime, watched the second half.

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Speaker 3: Let me just tell you what it is you're taking

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Speaker 3: too long.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, all right, Bill had to shoot the starting lineup.

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Speaker 6: They don't even know what you're talking about, don't well

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Speaker 6: you it I did, but that didn't mean anybody saw it.

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Speaker 3: I did not.

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Speaker 4: I'm surprised that none of the guys in there.

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Speaker 6: Follow you, Bill, but I'm not surprised. Our tradition group.

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Speaker 6: Our tradition on Christmas is I announced the starting lineup.

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Speaker 7: I line up.

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Speaker 6: It started with just my daughters back in the day,

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Speaker 6: and the family has grown where they've gotten married, and

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Speaker 6: so we line them up and then they go in

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Speaker 6: to see what Santa brought, okay, and so we go

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Speaker 6: by age youngest oldest and this year, now I've got

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Speaker 6: five grandsons and three daughters, three son in laws, and

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Speaker 6: so we line them all up and starting with twenty

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Speaker 6: three month old Parks. He comes in and I mean

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Speaker 6: we they say their name and what their age.

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Speaker 7: Is, and so it's a great tradition.

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Speaker 6: Like so, my daughters are their thirties and I'm Jessica,

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Speaker 3: Yes, and we're doing this again. Wow. Yes, it was

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Speaker 3: cute when we were thirteen.

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Speaker 4: Do they announce their schools?

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Speaker 3: The son in laws don't like to do that.

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Speaker 6: Laws so I say you, Oh, so, Colin, you're back

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Speaker 6: for another year.

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Speaker 3: Hey Colin, you're still here because it unless your name again.

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Speaker 6: Anyway, that's what we did on Christmas.

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Speaker 7: Good deal, man, I'm sorry I missed that. That's what

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Speaker 7: I do with my cousin. I have a double cousin.

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Speaker 7: She's married, name is Bridget. She's married to a guy,

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Speaker 7: and she never was good with relationships, but this guy

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Speaker 7: And every time I see him and go, oh, wow,

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Speaker 7: you're still here. Yeah, I tell her husband. The husband like, hey,

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Speaker 7: you're still here. Congratulations.

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Speaker 4: I thought I was the only one that had a

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Speaker 4: double cousin.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, double cousins.

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Speaker 6: All right, So here we are after a week. Well,

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Speaker 6: we got one more game left here in week swiming

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Speaker 6: team tonight, we got the Rams and the Falcons. With

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Speaker 6: Rams with nothing to play for. Really, they can improve

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Speaker 6: their seating. They can't win the division now. And the

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Speaker 6: Cowboys have one game left against the Giants at noon

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Speaker 6: on Sunday, Dallas time, and they can improve their record.

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Speaker 6: They can't improve their record.

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Speaker 7: Same thing applies.

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Speaker 6: Are they going to try to improve their record? I

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Speaker 6: think so Okay. By the way, we've got a Brian

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Speaker 6: Schottenheim press conference coming up at one thirty. Locker rooms

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Speaker 6: open at twelve forty five, and that's when we start

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Speaker 6: getting answers on who's going to play this week, where

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Speaker 6: we probably won't get any answers, but that's when the

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Speaker 6: question can be asked.

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Speaker 4: Well, see, we got a couple of days here to

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Speaker 4: work on this and discuss it, and we'll see how

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Speaker 4: we practice. That's going to be that opinion.

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Speaker 5: Yes, what do you think what should should should everyone play?

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Speaker 5: Should we play to win the game? I mean playing?

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Speaker 5: We played to win the game? But should we should we?

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Speaker 3: It?

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Speaker 4: Is that playing or not?

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Speaker 3: Yes, that's not just not just him not just got

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Speaker 3: a couple of wide receipt Yeah. Man, we got some

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Speaker 3: studs on this team.

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Speaker 5: I don't want any of them to participate necessarily in

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Speaker 7: What if they're incentives on the line, then that's up today.

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Speaker 7: There you go, and I think a lot of guys.

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Speaker 7: Maybe I don't know what that is, but that was

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Speaker 3: That's a good question.

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Speaker 7: Who has incentives on the line in this.

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Speaker 4: Last Yeah, I don't know that there is as many

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Speaker 4: contracts made with production incentives. Maybe games play incentives, but

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Speaker 4: not like, oh, if you get a thousand yards of receiving,

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Speaker 5: I think all of them pretty much exceeded. Yeah whatever,

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Speaker 5: our stars, our playmakers.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, Dak got to thirty touchdowns on Thursday, has over

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Speaker 4: What year was it? Maybe it was eighty nine?

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Speaker 3: Was it?

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Speaker 4: One of the running backs had an incentive and Jimmy

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Speaker 4: didn't play them because he did to save money. I

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Speaker 4: see Jerry Adam out might have been Paul Palmer, does

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Speaker 4: that k yes?

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Speaker 7: Sense?

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Speaker 3: Yes, running back? Yeah, that's right. He went to the Chiefs.

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Speaker 4: Had he had a springed ankle or something.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, those were the good old days. Everybody was honest.

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Speaker 3: You know what I think everybody from the top of

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Speaker 4: I think that plays a half.

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Speaker 3: You think so?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I think it depends who's playing left tackle. Is

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah right, I don't think it matters who's playing

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Speaker 6: Well, no, six sacks talking about the other day, it

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Speaker 4: It was pretty much across them. Boy.

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Speaker 3: Yeah right.

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Speaker 5: I just don't want him to because, you know, as

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Speaker 5: much as he looks like he was having a good

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Speaker 5: that was one of those games you win ugly, you know,

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Speaker 5: you just go out there, rivalry and all of that.

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Speaker 5: But no, I didn't like the fact that he had

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Speaker 4: Well, and it was it was the numbers.

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Speaker 3: It looked like he was having fun though.

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Speaker 4: Misleading right, sacks six times, hit eleven times, had eight

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Speaker 4: passes defense mean, battered around right. Yeah, he threw for

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Speaker 5: How do you how do you figure that's this is

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Speaker 5: the kind of offense we have's and that's the way he's

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Speaker 4: That's how good damn hand be right.

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Speaker 3: That's that's how our offense has been. That's what they're

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Speaker 7: Can I ask an important question. I'm sorry I didn't

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Speaker 7: little bit coming back from vacation. I know that disappointed

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Speaker 7: all of you, Yes, but when it goes down, when

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Speaker 7: it comes down to Dak and the season that he's had,

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Speaker 7: and you're running back the season he's had, are you

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Speaker 7: a little disappointed? After watching all of this football and

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Speaker 7: that you're missing out on the playoffs. And I'm looking

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Speaker 7: at you, but I'm not really asking you because your

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Speaker 7: expectation was never that they were going to make the

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Speaker 7: playoffs anyway. But are you a little disappointed by having

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Speaker 7: that type of output and still missing the playoffs even.

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Speaker 5: Though I didn't think they went, I'm still very disappointed. Yeah,

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Speaker 5: I still think this this offense was wasted on this

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Speaker 5: entire season, on what we were doing and the capabilities

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Speaker 6: Absolutely, and it's wasting a healthy season from the quarterback.

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Speaker 7: Thank you guys for saying that. Yeah, I just I

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Speaker 7: didn't want to be on an island, you know, in

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Speaker 7: my disappointment, you know, for the production that we had. Offensively,

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Speaker 7: yea have a twelve.

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Speaker 5: Hundred yard right, It's very frustrating to watch all these

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Speaker 5: other teams. They have these offensive players and everybody's doing well,

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Speaker 5: but defensively, we are still playing at the bottom of

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Speaker 5: the bell. And that's just it's extremely frustrating when you

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Speaker 5: sit up here and you watch, you know, even a

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Speaker 5: subpar game. You know, this guy's still throwing for three

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Speaker 5: hundred yards, but it's a subpar game, you know, wasting

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Speaker 5: all of this effort, wasting all of these numbers on

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Speaker 5: a defense that really doesn't deserve it.

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Speaker 4: Although I did see a team that's very, very good

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Speaker 3: I saw that last night as well.

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Speaker 7: And so they were up against a team that's pretty

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Speaker 4: Well, yeah, you know, I understand.

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Speaker 5: And their defense is you know, they've that defense is

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Speaker 5: just as bad as anybody in regards to injuries.

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Speaker 3: Talking about the Nineers the injuries though.

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Speaker 6: What an amazing job they've done considering their injuries, starting

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Speaker 6: with Nick Bosa before the season started, Warner, a Hall

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Speaker 3: Player that is correct, and it all goes back to

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Speaker 3: why can't we do that?

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Speaker 4: Because you lost players too, but.

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Speaker 3: Why can't we be why can't we make the playoffs? Right?

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Speaker 7: I think the word for everybody when you asked them,

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Speaker 7: nothing even before the injuries. It's on the inline as

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Speaker 3: You know, you talk about drafts at this point.

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Speaker 5: I could see us using those drafts to get more players.

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Speaker 5: I don't know if I want youth on this team.

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Speaker 5: Talk about free agency. Free agency, yes, I would like

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Speaker 5: I just want to see, you know, can they be

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Speaker 5: It seemed like we just imploded on the defensive side.

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Speaker 4: Well, and here's the other I don't know about you guys,

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Speaker 4: I know it's only one game, but it sounds better.

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Speaker 4: You could, at least at that point, instead of just saying, god,

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Speaker 4: you would have said, okay, right, it is torture.

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Speaker 3: It ain't killing me.

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Speaker 4: But oh, rather do that and suffer than just say

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Speaker 7: Right?

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Speaker 3: Right? You want to say that there was at least.

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Speaker 5: Hope, Yeah, yeah, and there was and there was that

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Speaker 5: was so it would reflect that better. But still we

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Speaker 7: Before the season started, Mickey, what did you like? I

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Speaker 4: I thought ten wins was reasonable?

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Speaker 5: Okay, so too, Yeah I thought ten wins were good.

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Speaker 7: You thought they were too?

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Speaker 3: Yeah? I did, I should did.

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Speaker 4: I thought the offense would be good enough to get

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Speaker 6: Wow, And you think about it, I mean, even looking

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Speaker 7: Them to be.

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Speaker 6: And it was a road game, okay, Arizona at home

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Speaker 7: Season right now. And I agree, and I agree especially

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Speaker 6: Right, we were getting I'm not saying I'm not saying

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Speaker 7: That a game. So the game for me, the game

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Speaker 5: Was just too many things were able to happen after

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Speaker 5: if you're gonna look at games that you could have won,

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Speaker 7: And if maybe all of that is what we're doing

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Speaker 5: I think I think the games are more consequential as

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Speaker 3: Had a chance to really make so quarters.

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Speaker 3: So it just you know, to me, that was much

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Speaker 6: All right, let me ask you this at the beginning

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Speaker 5: If I recall, if I recall, I was not I

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Speaker 6: And as it turned out, they went three and three

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Speaker 7: You thought things were going to be completely different, different

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Speaker 7: Maybe you could look at the Carolina Panthers and say

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Speaker 4: Right now, what is Carolina now? Eight and eight? A

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Speaker 3: Right right?

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Speaker 7: It speaks Yeah, this thing the moment that we wasted

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Speaker 5: This was our time. This was it to me, we

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Speaker 3: From the entire NFL in regards to parody and who's

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Speaker 6: And will say this, if Quinn Williams was on this

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Speaker 7: Yeah. Well, then when you're talking about parody and all

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Speaker 7: to me, and I'm just saying, like, Jacksonville is one

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Speaker 7: the China. No, that's what I'm saying. So so imagine

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Speaker 7: So it's like the way that the league has gone

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Speaker 6: Everything's up in the air.

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Speaker 7: Everything is so up in the airir of this season

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Speaker 7: blew it.

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Speaker 5: That's why we blew a supporting Yes, that's why we

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Speaker 6: All right, we continue with more mix shots.

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Speaker 3: At the moment it was sobering.

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Speaker 6: All right, we are approaching the end of this season

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Speaker 6: on Sunday at noon against the New York Football Giants,

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Speaker 6: Hecma Harrison, and the star of the show, Mickey Spagnola,

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Speaker 6: who was spending Christmas in the Nation's capital.

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Speaker 4: I did, and then I stayed.

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Speaker 6: You did, Yeah, you didn't come back on the charter.

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Speaker 3: No.

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Speaker 4: I flew up on my own.

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Speaker 3: Ice was on. I was on your ice.

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Speaker 4: I saw it.

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Speaker 3: I was chasing. I went.

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Speaker 4: I walked by this huge building or what's that? And

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Speaker 4: it was US customs and ice. Wow that, and I said,

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Speaker 4: stay away from that. There never know when they just

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Speaker 4: have something to do.

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Speaker 7: Let's let's change the subject.

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Speaker 3: You were in d C.

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Speaker 7: What was the reason.

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Speaker 4: Just to spend Christmas together?

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Speaker 3: Okay, So we flew up a good stuff.

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Speaker 4: Went to the museum on Wednesday and Friday, and what

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Speaker 4: a good idea game. On Thursday, I just decided that.

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Speaker 3: You went to all the museums and those two.

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Speaker 4: On one on Wednesday Friday. I'll do like that man

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Speaker 4: walked by the house on Friday.

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Speaker 3: You saw there East Wing?

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Speaker 4: What wasn't there?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 6: Did y'all stay near the mall?

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Speaker 4: We were at the j W. The team stayed at

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Speaker 4: the j W Marria, which is right there.

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Speaker 6: I love that. Back when they used to see it's like.

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Speaker 4: A six ten minute walk to the White House and

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Speaker 4: six ten minute walk to the mall. You can walk

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Speaker 4: the mall. So we went to on Friday, went to

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Speaker 4: the African American Museum of History and Culture, which I

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Speaker 4: took a picture for you because there was a display

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Speaker 4: of Eddie Robinson.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: I don't know if you've been there, but there was

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Speaker 4: a display of him. And I've got one for John Wooton,

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Speaker 4: who was in that group picture when they were m Yeah.

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Speaker 3: When they were offending Bill Russell.

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Speaker 6: Muhammad Ali for would you like to explain John Wooton?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, John uh played for the Cleveland Browns. He was

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Speaker 4: the starting guard during Jim Brown's career, and he went

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Speaker 4: on to become a player agent. He became a cowboy

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Speaker 4: front office guy and then went to Philadelphia as their

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Speaker 4: personnel director and then was the head.

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Speaker 12: Of the.

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Speaker 4: Fritz Pollard Fritz Pollard John still still going. Yeah, give

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Speaker 4: him a call and later anyway, I saw the picture.

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Speaker 4: I've seen the picture. It's it's a great pick.

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Speaker 3: The iconic photo of Muhammad Ali. Was he signing not

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Speaker 3: to go to war?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, he makes the press Yeah, they did have the

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Speaker 4: press conference because he was going to get punished for.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, being and they had all those super behind him

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Speaker 5: giving him support.

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Speaker 3: I think that Bobby Mitchell.

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Speaker 13: Willie Davis was there, Packers, Yeah, Gramley State, Bobby Mitchell, Yes,

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Speaker 13: was there, Kareem was there, Bill Russell was there.

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Speaker 8: Yes.

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Speaker 4: And and then then you're gonna have to help me

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Speaker 4: with this O. Jay's attorney, uh Cock Johnny, Yes, he was.

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Speaker 4: He was in that picture as a young Boston Oh wow.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I should have known that. Yeah, yeah, I was.

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Speaker 4: But see what happened a couple of years ago.

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Speaker 3: It might have been.

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Speaker 4: Jason kept the team there after the game against Washington

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Speaker 4: and we went to the museum. Yes, and we got

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Speaker 4: a tour for the whole group, right, and guy was,

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Speaker 4: you know, lecturing or whatever. And we got to the

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Speaker 4: sports part and it's like, oh man, look at this

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Speaker 4: and they got the picture of John Carlos and and Smith.

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Speaker 7: Yes, the Olympic picture, the Olympic.

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Speaker 4: Picture, and there's a statue they have replica, and I'm going,

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Speaker 4: oh man, I took the picture. I'm watching the video

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Speaker 4: up there. And it was like, uh, but we got

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Speaker 4: to catch a plane.

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Speaker 7: We gotta go.

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Speaker 3: And I said, wait a minute.

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Speaker 4: The best part, the sports part. I must to spend

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Speaker 4: an hour in there.

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Speaker 7: You can't. And it's it's it's layered, like yes, I

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Speaker 7: went with my family. I took my mom. It's a

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Speaker 7: d C and we only got to the bottom floor.

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Speaker 7: I thought that was just me. No, no, no, let's see.

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Speaker 3: I kept saying.

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Speaker 4: I kept saying, we gotta go, we gotta Oh. I

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Speaker 4: know what's up there. I don't want to miss it

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Speaker 4: this time. But you know what the cool thing was

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Speaker 4: to see all the people, their father's mothers talking to

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Speaker 4: their kids through the history. I mean, we live this right,

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Speaker 4: and uh it is it is amazing. Yeah, well worth

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Speaker 4: the time.

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Speaker 7: Spent there.

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Speaker 4: So anyway, that's what I did for Christmas.

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Speaker 3: Good job.

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Speaker 6: Uh heck, there was no rundown this morning. But I

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Speaker 6: want to leave it to you for you if there

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Speaker 6: was something that you would have for us to talk

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Speaker 6: about in this second segment, what do you think you

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Speaker 6: would like to talk about?

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Speaker 7: Man, I'm so conflicted this morning about everything going Dallas

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Speaker 7: Cowboys right now. I got an opportunity to talk to

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Speaker 7: my uncle over the weekend. Joe Green is my uncle,

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Speaker 7: Lady Jo So so before I said, I I got

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Speaker 7: a ton of uncles. Let me let me make that clear.

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Speaker 7: And I was talking to him about I made the

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Speaker 7: mistake of saying and having in the conversation about teams

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Speaker 7: playing up to play the Cowboys. And he thought that

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Speaker 7: was absurd, and he said, you know, nobody played. Nobody

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Speaker 7: gets up to play you guys. He's like, when I played,

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Speaker 7: you know, when we were playing, I got up to

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Speaker 7: play the Cleveland Browns. You know that was our game.

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Speaker 5: That's crazy that the rivalry is between Cleveland and Pitts,

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Speaker 5: Pittsburgh and Cincinnati.

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Speaker 7: But he but he even mentioned but he even mentioned

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Speaker 7: Cincinnati as well, and saying, you know, the Bengals games

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Speaker 7: like that, those were more important. But when we were

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Speaker 7: talking about the playoffs and I was said the same

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Speaker 7: thing about missing the playoffs. His thing was in those

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Speaker 7: years that they were, you know, had their playoff runs,

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Speaker 7: you knew when you got into the playoffs when you

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Speaker 7: didn't have enough to sustain and stay right. And he

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Speaker 7: was like, that's the worst feeling going to the playoffs

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Speaker 7: knowing that you don't have enough firepower to compete. So

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Speaker 7: would you rather be in the playoffs without enough firepower?

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Speaker 7: How long do you think? How long do you think

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Speaker 7: you guys would have stayed in the playoffs with the

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Speaker 7: defense that you have, And it just kind of resonates.

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Speaker 7: It's one thing to make the playoffs, but it's another

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Speaker 7: thing to be right back at the house because you

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Speaker 7: don't have the talent, as.

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Speaker 6: We've discovered yet you can make the playoffs, and if

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Speaker 6: your stays not very long, it feels like it went

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Speaker 6: by in a flash, just like that.

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Speaker 5: And let's be real, Uncle mean Joe, Yeah, I know

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Speaker 5: he is what he is. But when you get to

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Speaker 5: the playoffs, everyone does get up, especially for the playoffs

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Speaker 5: to play the Dallas Cowboys.

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Speaker 3: Everyone tries to play their best.

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Speaker 5: He says that because they were the freaking Pittsburgh Steelers.

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Speaker 3: So yes, he can say that.

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Speaker 7: Because there said I didn't think that was absurd either,

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Speaker 7: So anyway, thank you.

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Speaker 3: So it's not absurd.

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Speaker 5: They're going to get in the players, and especially these

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Speaker 5: days when the Internet and social media is so enthralled

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Speaker 5: and in regards to rivalries and everybody's trying to make

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Speaker 5: their own point and things of that nature. So the

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Speaker 5: hate for the Cowboys may have grown on one side.

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Speaker 5: I'm sorry, the empathy for the Cowboys may have grown

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Speaker 5: on one side, but the hate for the Cowboys has

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Speaker 5: certainly risen because of social media.

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Speaker 4: Well, and I think it the teams that were lesser

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Speaker 4: teams got up for the Cowboys, right, That's what happened.

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Speaker 4: The teams that were good, they were well, were on

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Speaker 4: the same level, right, right, But.

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Speaker 3: They kind of really enjoyed it one day.

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Speaker 5: They enjoyed that a little bit, Yes they did. I mean,

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Speaker 5: your quarterback doesn't get a whole bunch of undue criticism,

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Speaker 5: unwarranted criticism than any other quarterback because he's a Dallas Cowboys.

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Speaker 3: Just be real about that.

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Speaker 7: Are there any playoff teams for you guys? As far

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Speaker 7: as your projections looking at who's gonna make it and

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Speaker 7: who Isn't that you're a little you're a little surprised

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Speaker 7: by their lack of fire power going into the playoffs.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: That the defenses, they've never been like this when they've

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Speaker 5: had their playoff runs, especially when they have an offens

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Speaker 5: is clicking like this one. Uh yeah, Yeah, I'd say

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Speaker 5: the Niners. Uh, they tease you just like the Cowboys

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Speaker 5: were doing two years ago. You score a lot of points,

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Speaker 5: you can be a little bit inconsistent on the defensive side,

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Speaker 5: and that's kind of what you're looking at.

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Speaker 7: That doesn't bode well for playoff football at all. Yeah,

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Speaker 7: for me, it would be. And just picking the AFC team,

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Speaker 7: the Bills. The Buffalo Bills are shocking me right now.

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Speaker 7: You know the m v P Josh Allen. Obviously he's

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Speaker 7: having the herculean effort to win games, but just the

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Speaker 7: lack of talent that they have a certain positions.

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Speaker 4: Wide receiver, yeah, was their best receiver.

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Speaker 6: I apparently blew it on Keon Coleman. He can't even

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Speaker 6: get active. He's a healthy screen.

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Speaker 3: He's a head case.

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Speaker 6: I didn't realize he and I pride myself on the

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Speaker 6: draft for trying to figure out that very thing. And

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Speaker 6: he seemed like a smart guy, and he seemed like,

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Speaker 6: I don't know.

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Speaker 5: Was on good yeah, you know, because you know everything

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Speaker 5: that he thinks is so cute or whatever it is,

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Speaker 5: it ain't working from because at standpoint CD, my man,

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Speaker 5: you know this ain't well. You know, I remember they

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Speaker 5: had a picture of him, a video of him, I

671
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Speaker 5: mean just dancing his butt off in pregame when he

672
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Speaker 5: was a healthy scratch.

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Speaker 7: Lack of awareness, that's all that is. I mean a

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Speaker 7: lot of guys that just don't have it. That's maybe

675
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Speaker 7: teaching him how to be a pro, and he's that's

676
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Speaker 7: the that's a horrible learning lesson for a guy like

677
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Speaker 7: that that should be.

678
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Speaker 6: Impact late first round draft pick last year, in his

679
00:34:22,160 --> 00:34:25,759
Speaker 6: second year, he should be the guy there is, you know,

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Speaker 6: and I understand he's not a fast guy. You know,

681
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Speaker 6: separation is an issue. But talented man, yes he is.

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Speaker 6: That's why I was intrigued by him.

683
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Speaker 5: So sometimes you can, you know, you can fool people into, hey,

684
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Speaker 5: this guy's got this energy and all that. Well, some

685
00:34:41,400 --> 00:34:44,800
Speaker 5: of that energy might be unnecessary. You know, it's the

686
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Speaker 5: where he's he's making more out of what's going.

687
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Speaker 6: To transition to the NFL is more than just what

688
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Speaker 6: you see on the field, right There could be other

689
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Speaker 6: things going on there.

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Speaker 3: He's got to have somebody in this corner.

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Speaker 5: I'm sure seeing he's tried to talk to him, I

692
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Speaker 5: would imagine, but he's got to have some grown man

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Speaker 5: around him somewhere to let him know what's going on.

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Speaker 5: But it doesn't it seems like, I say, too late,

695
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Speaker 5: obviously too late for this year. But you just don't

696
00:35:10,480 --> 00:35:13,799
Speaker 5: want that reputation, and right now he has that reputation.

697
00:35:13,960 --> 00:35:16,640
Speaker 5: That's something that people actually thought. That's how CD might

698
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Speaker 5: be coming into the league. I mean, we knew about

699
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Speaker 5: him in Oklahoma because right Oklahoma.

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Speaker 6: Gassawa, there was a track record of three years of

701
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Speaker 6: him where how tough he was and how he was,

702
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Speaker 6: you know, doing all the right things and stuff. But anyway,

703
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Speaker 6: answer your question to the obvious ones, also are whoever's

704
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Speaker 6: going to win the NFC South and whoever's going to

705
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Speaker 6: win the AFC North too. There's not a lot of

706
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Speaker 6: hope for either one of those.

707
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Speaker 7: Now that the what was you said it was a

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Speaker 7: twenty three years that the NFC East had been won

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Speaker 7: by different twenty one.

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Speaker 6: Two thousand and four. Which Eagles did it?

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Speaker 7: Mickey would have kill you? Paining you? Let me say

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00:35:59,239 --> 00:36:02,799
Speaker 7: killed paying you for the Philadelphia Eagles to play in

713
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Speaker 7: the back to back Super Bowls.

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Speaker 4: Oh will it pain me?

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Speaker 7: Yeah? But I don't care today. Just care today. I

716
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Speaker 7: know you don't care, but just care today.

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Speaker 5: What I prefer it there today?

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Speaker 3: Just put that on.

719
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Speaker 4: I told you after watching the Netflix thing on the

720
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Speaker 4: NFC East and I saw inside of Sirianni. I had

721
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Speaker 4: a different opinion.

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Speaker 5: And see my daughter is like no, him and my

723
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Speaker 5: daughter they're like, no, don't feel that, don't And I

724
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Speaker 5: was like, man, well, first, I've always liked how you

725
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Speaker 5: run the team, but you're right when you watch the

726
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Speaker 5: NFC East thing, Yeah, it's it's it just shows you

727
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Speaker 5: a different light because we always see him as this ericant.

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Speaker 4: Little Yes, yes, it's like Napoleon.

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Speaker 7: I don't like him at all.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, but you know what I like.

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Speaker 4: And then they showed it after the game, I think,

732
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Speaker 4: celebration in the locker room would they win?

733
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Speaker 6: Was it thirteen twelve twelve? Right, Buffalo Missigs.

734
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Speaker 4: Celebrating like it was the end of.

735
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Speaker 3: The world, and well he was coming back home and.

736
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Speaker 4: He basically he basically was saying, I don't want any negativity.

737
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Speaker 4: We won, right, and you know what, that's their season.

738
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Speaker 4: They have not dominated, but somehow they have a recipe

739
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Speaker 4: with success. Yeah, it would pay, and they won because

740
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Speaker 4: the quarterback didn't throw the ball.

741
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Speaker 7: It would pain me. It would pain it.

742
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Speaker 4: It would pay.

743
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Speaker 7: It would It would upset me to see them continuously build.

744
00:37:39,239 --> 00:37:42,319
Speaker 7: They lose their offensive coordinator. Uh, he goes off and

745
00:37:42,320 --> 00:37:44,840
Speaker 7: gets a head coaching job, and they get right back

746
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Speaker 7: to the super Bowl. It would it really would one.

747
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Speaker 3: It would pay.

748
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Speaker 5: It would pay me because I do not see it

749
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Speaker 5: at all. I don't see it.

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Speaker 7: And I didn't see it at all last season, and

751
00:37:56,200 --> 00:37:58,480
Speaker 7: somehow they pulled it off last season. I thought it

752
00:37:58,600 --> 00:38:00,879
Speaker 7: did you. I thought Jalen Hurd.

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Speaker 6: The way Barkley was running, and the last even.

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Speaker 7: With even with the way that Barkley was running, I

755
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Speaker 7: thought that it would be on Jalen Hurts to make

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Speaker 7: a throw and.

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Speaker 5: The defense man and he just last year was all

758
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Speaker 5: going good, Yeah they are, So that's that was That's

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Speaker 5: what I was looking at from last year.

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Speaker 3: Barkley running the ball and the defense.

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Speaker 4: They didn't even have forty plays yesterday. I think it

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Speaker 4: was thirty seven. They ended up in cold.

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Speaker 5: And that's that's buffalo style. And they went in they

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Speaker 5: won with the buffalo style.

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Speaker 6: Okay, what do you want to do in the last segment,

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Speaker 6: I don't know.

767
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Speaker 7: Man's take a break. I have to figure.

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Speaker 4: Talk about he's still mad. If you beat the Giants,

769
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Speaker 4: you finished five and one in the NFC East with

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Speaker 4: the best division record.

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Speaker 3: Wow, that's because that is.

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Speaker 4: The Eagles are going to be for it.

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Speaker 3: That does not let me feel it.

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Speaker 8: Demitt shuts, Oh, yeah, we don't.

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Speaker 3: Have a read. I'm good. I'm over waiting on something

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Speaker 3: to do.

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Speaker 7: Go talk to the lady that does all that man.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, anybody know her.

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Speaker 3: Alone, let her relax.

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Speaker 4: We could we could promote I think Tuesday there at

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Speaker 4: the at the stadium, they're having a Battle of the

814
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Speaker 4: Bands for the Cotton Bowl.

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Speaker 14: Oh okay, right, all right, like like the band Grambling

816
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Speaker 14: gonna be here, the Battle of the Bands of the

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Speaker 14: teams in which is Ohio State in Miami?

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Speaker 3: Oh okay, the that would be so boy? Yeah?

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Speaker 6: Can they not bring Grambling in for it?

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Speaker 7: You cannot say the expectation is completely different, Can I

821
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Speaker 7: say that?

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Speaker 4: Well, they're not going to go out in March. They're

823
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Speaker 4: just gonna.

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Speaker 7: Music much at the same time, Shout out to everybody

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Speaker 7: that's gonna be there at the Battle of the Yeah,

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Speaker 7: I apologize my co host State, you know, shout out

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Speaker 7: you got.

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Speaker 3: That's gonna be terrible.

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Speaker 6: By the way, since you brought it up, Yes, it

830
00:42:40,280 --> 00:42:45,680
Speaker 6: is so absolutely ridiculous this college football playoff and how

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Speaker 6: they wait three or four weeks before they start playing that.

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Speaker 6: You're right, yeah, absolutely a continuation yeah, you got it.

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Speaker 4: These teams are they haven't.

834
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Speaker 6: Played right, so you have no idea, and.

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Speaker 4: You know they're not practicing hard because they don't want

836
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Speaker 4: to get anybody hurt.

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Speaker 5: So did we have any issues in regards of that.

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Speaker 5: As far as players that you know opting out, a

839
00:43:07,800 --> 00:43:08,640
Speaker 5: lot of that going on.

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Speaker 6: Well, if they're not playing in the in the playoffs,

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Speaker 6: they're all opting out. So if you transfer Portal playing

842
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Speaker 6: for the draft, you.

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Speaker 5: Me a player, I would say, you know what, I'm

844
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Speaker 5: not gonna I'm gonna opt out, even though.

845
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Speaker 3: I put up with it.

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Speaker 4: Saturday to the starting wide receivers Missouri, we're not playing.

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Speaker 5: Now that now that this is this is Al game

848
00:43:32,680 --> 00:43:34,719
Speaker 5: that was that was a bowl game. I'm talking about

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Speaker 5: the playoffs. We have players opting out.

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Speaker 6: No, there there are probably some backup players. In fact,

851
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Speaker 6: the backup quarterback for Texas last year who went to Duke,

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Speaker 6: he opted out before the playoffs started. Okay, actually I

853
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Speaker 6: guess the year before there was two years ago.

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Speaker 4: If you're playing for something, these guys not everyone though, right,

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Speaker 4: not everybody all, I think the majority of.

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Speaker 5: The majority of course, yes, but but and when it

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00:44:00,440 --> 00:44:02,799
Speaker 5: comes to bowl games, yes, but when it comes to

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Speaker 5: the tournament, do you have some players.

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Speaker 7: Opting out, especially if you're a locked like a first

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Speaker 7: round it's a lot of money on the loan.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I don't think you're not. I don't think that

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Speaker 6: you'll see a starting player, but there are backup players

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Speaker 6: who I'm sure have gone into the transfer portal.

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Speaker 3: We've seen starting players opt out, haven't we? On the

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Speaker 3: playoff with the tournament.

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Speaker 4: I haven't recognized it as much as just the meaningless

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Speaker 4: Bowl game.

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Speaker 6: Okay, yeah, right, which, by the way, think about the

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Speaker 6: Cotton Bowl game last year. You had Ohio State playing

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Speaker 6: Texas in a semi final game last year in the

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Speaker 6: Cotton Bowl, and here you got Ohio State playing in

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Speaker 6: a quarterfinal game against Miami. And as you watch that game,

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Speaker 6: which is New Year's Eve, and think in terms of

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Speaker 6: the Cowboys in the draft, there are some prospects and

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Speaker 6: I'll try to make a list by Wednesday on the

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Speaker 6: Wednesday Show guys to look forward to on Ohio State

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Speaker 6: and Miami. From a draft standpoint, there's only one name.

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Speaker 4: You got to a point out. That guy's name is

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00:45:08,520 --> 00:45:12,479
Speaker 4: Baine rhyme rhymes with pain.

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Speaker 7: Okay, there he is. I don't know this guy.

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Speaker 6: All right, so we'll have a report on that on Wednesday. Okay,

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Speaker 6: watch them.

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Speaker 7: Okay, Chris, you got any tickets in the game, Chris Bean.

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Speaker 6: Even but even how about yesterday you had? Uh? The

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00:45:29,719 --> 00:45:34,760
Speaker 6: key play in that Ohio State Texas game is uh

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Speaker 6: Texas was down on the on the goal line and

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Speaker 6: Sark ran the ridiculous sweep play and so which put

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Speaker 6: him into a fourth down play. And then Youwers got

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Speaker 6: sacked fumbles and Jack saw Your runs for a touchdown

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Speaker 6: ninety yards to seal the win for Ohio State. Well,

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Speaker 6: yesterday Jack saw Your had an interception and Quinn Ewers,

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Speaker 6: by the way, in his second NFL start, beats a

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Speaker 6: Tampa Bay team quarterback by Baker Mayfield twenty to seventeen.

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Speaker 7: I heard to say a little bit, what but Quinn,

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Speaker 7: you're as beat Baker Mayfield?

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Speaker 6: Oh no, uh Baker in Tampa Bay this last half

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Speaker 6: of the year. What is hey? They're arrow is pointed down.

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Speaker 6: But they still got a shot against the airline Onaday.

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Speaker 7: But with on.

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Speaker 6: Losing record, by the way, there seven and nine.

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Speaker 4: And the Saints are exploding in a.

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Speaker 6: Row right right, so wait found quite a second.

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Speaker 3: They found their quarterback the Panther.

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Speaker 6: The Cowboys are seven eight and one. The Panthers are

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Speaker 6: eight and eight, and the Bucks are seven and nine

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Speaker 6: and they're playing for a division title. So Jerry needs

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Speaker 6: to petition division move into the NFC.

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Speaker 7: Soon as we get over there, they'll improve and it'll

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Speaker 7: be by the way.

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Speaker 6: You talk about a team improving in the NFC South,

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Speaker 6: look out for the Saints. Look out for Kellen Moore's

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Speaker 6: Saints and their quarterback Tyler Shuck.

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Speaker 7: Guys, they beat Tennessee. So let's just be a but

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Speaker 7: they got is it five in a row row?

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Speaker 6: Yeah? Okay, order all with him and a lot of

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Speaker 6: it against the n f C South or the a

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Speaker 6: f C.

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Speaker 4: Seth starting sooner.

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Speaker 7: Shud door through two interceptions and they still be.

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Speaker 6: That's right, that's right.

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Speaker 7: Let's name for Frisco and all black. Uh, I got distracted?

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Speaker 6: All right, you got a final comment.

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Speaker 3: I'm good.

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Speaker 6: Okay, you're good.

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Speaker 4: You're you're needed to, by the way, Douglas, I'm gonna talk.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, okay.

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Speaker 6: In fact, speaking of the Cotton Bowl, you know when

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Speaker 6: you walk to the stadium, you hear the announcement around

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Speaker 6: the stadium.

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Speaker 7: It always is, it always is gets sick one of

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Speaker 7: these days, Bill, so brother can slide.

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Speaker 3: Come on.

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Speaker 7: All this work, man, I'm walking around, walking around at State.

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Speaker 3: I'm sick of here.

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Speaker 6: As a matter of fact, her cell phones.

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Speaker 3: I have to make it.

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Speaker 4: Probably the announcement about the Battle of the band.

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Speaker 3: To be ready, let me see them crimes.

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Speaker 7: Man, you have not because you asked, That's right, I ask.

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Speaker 7: All right?

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Speaker 6: So that does it for a Monday, a victory Monday

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Speaker 6: edition of Big Shots, and we'll shut at you again

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Speaker 6: tomorrow at aighnoon.

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Speaker 3: Go Cowboys.

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