1 00:00:00,520 --> 00:00:08,560 Speaker 1: Be Around the NFL Podcast. Tom Brady is your daddy. 2 00:00:08,840 --> 00:00:12,840 Speaker 1: Welcome to another edition of the Round the NFL Podcast. UM, 3 00:00:12,960 --> 00:00:17,759 Speaker 1: Dan Hansas. I got some heroes from virtual parts unknown. 4 00:00:17,760 --> 00:00:22,400 Speaker 1: Why I know where they are? Greg Rosenthal, Mark Sessler, 5 00:00:23,160 --> 00:00:27,800 Speaker 1: Ricky Hollywood somewhere in West Hollywood. The boys somewhere in 6 00:00:27,920 --> 00:00:32,000 Speaker 1: West l A. We're all together via the internet. Though, 7 00:00:32,120 --> 00:00:37,120 Speaker 1: what's up, guys? Nailed it? Yeah, you're at the office 8 00:00:37,159 --> 00:00:39,560 Speaker 1: today though, you know there's still some people going in 9 00:00:39,760 --> 00:00:43,159 Speaker 1: taping the power rankings right YEP. I was there the 10 00:00:43,280 --> 00:00:47,639 Speaker 1: NFL network headquarters and there's more maintenance people there right 11 00:00:47,640 --> 00:00:51,600 Speaker 1: now than UM employees, it seems. So there's kind of 12 00:00:51,640 --> 00:00:56,040 Speaker 1: like an eerie It's like those zombie movies when they're 13 00:00:56,080 --> 00:00:58,800 Speaker 1: in a mall and you hear some top forty radio 14 00:00:58,920 --> 00:01:02,080 Speaker 1: hit playing. It's just early silent otherwise. That's what it's 15 00:01:02,120 --> 00:01:05,240 Speaker 1: like at the office right now. UM. Hopefully this is 16 00:01:05,240 --> 00:01:07,520 Speaker 1: a temporary set up where we're doing these shows remotely 17 00:01:08,120 --> 00:01:10,360 Speaker 1: UM from the podcast, but that kind of came down 18 00:01:10,440 --> 00:01:14,080 Speaker 1: from Mount Olympus, so that's where we are right now. Uh. 19 00:01:14,120 --> 00:01:16,520 Speaker 1: We're just happy to be healthy because it seems like 20 00:01:16,560 --> 00:01:19,400 Speaker 1: half the NFL right now has COVID. I have thought 21 00:01:19,400 --> 00:01:23,880 Speaker 1: about UM airlifting into the office briefly, just to walk 22 00:01:23,920 --> 00:01:26,840 Speaker 1: in and get those free slices of pizza. I mean 23 00:01:26,880 --> 00:01:29,040 Speaker 1: I thought about that probably twelve or twelve to thirteen 24 00:01:29,040 --> 00:01:35,280 Speaker 1: times a day. No one you no either, It's either Friday, Greg, 25 00:01:35,319 --> 00:01:38,560 Speaker 1: You're at Your enthusiasm is contagious. We we we we 26 00:01:38,600 --> 00:01:40,520 Speaker 1: get it. I I am. I think you probably think 27 00:01:40,560 --> 00:01:43,600 Speaker 1: that I like being home. I don't like this at all. UM. 28 00:01:43,640 --> 00:01:49,000 Speaker 1: This wave of it is um ponderous at best. It's yeah, 29 00:01:49,000 --> 00:01:54,400 Speaker 1: speaking of contagious. UH, the um O macron variant of 30 00:01:56,120 --> 00:01:58,600 Speaker 1: the COVID nineteen virus. I don't even know what is 31 00:01:58,640 --> 00:02:01,440 Speaker 1: what anymore, but anyway, it's it's highly contagious. It's rippen 32 00:02:01,480 --> 00:02:05,920 Speaker 1: through the league and UM. Just on Tuesday, we learned 33 00:02:05,960 --> 00:02:10,840 Speaker 1: that Carson Wentz, who is unvaccinated, was moved to the 34 00:02:10,880 --> 00:02:13,639 Speaker 1: reserve COVID list. Now there are a couple of wrinkles 35 00:02:13,639 --> 00:02:16,399 Speaker 1: to this one. As of taping, we don't know if 36 00:02:16,639 --> 00:02:20,760 Speaker 1: Wentz has COVID nineteen or is a close contact. That's 37 00:02:21,000 --> 00:02:24,120 Speaker 1: very important because the nfl UH and the nfl p 38 00:02:24,240 --> 00:02:26,760 Speaker 1: A are in the process as we speak, of reducing 39 00:02:26,800 --> 00:02:29,720 Speaker 1: the quarantine time from ten to five days, which means 40 00:02:30,120 --> 00:02:34,120 Speaker 1: and covering all players, not just vaccinated or vaccinated players. 41 00:02:34,120 --> 00:02:36,760 Speaker 1: So even an unvaccinated player like Wentz could play Sunday 42 00:02:36,880 --> 00:02:42,079 Speaker 1: if he's deemed close contact and not actually having the disease. However, 43 00:02:43,320 --> 00:02:46,800 Speaker 1: it's just the latest for the NFL in an unending 44 00:02:46,840 --> 00:02:51,680 Speaker 1: strength trend here where I believe nineties players tested positive 45 00:02:51,800 --> 00:02:54,720 Speaker 1: on Monday alone, which was a record. Uh. It has 46 00:02:54,760 --> 00:02:57,600 Speaker 1: turned the league upside down. And the Colts as an example, 47 00:02:57,600 --> 00:03:00,040 Speaker 1: a team that was surging to me, seemed like a 48 00:03:00,080 --> 00:03:02,920 Speaker 1: Super Bowl contender and still are whether once misses a 49 00:03:02,960 --> 00:03:05,800 Speaker 1: game or not. But it just shows you how fragile 50 00:03:05,840 --> 00:03:11,840 Speaker 1: everything has become and how fluid. Like I get people 51 00:03:11,880 --> 00:03:15,320 Speaker 1: are like upset that the rules keep changing. It's like 52 00:03:15,360 --> 00:03:18,520 Speaker 1: what did you expect? Like like it's kind of like 53 00:03:18,560 --> 00:03:22,320 Speaker 1: the teams that are that are saying after the facts, like, yeah, 54 00:03:22,360 --> 00:03:24,520 Speaker 1: I know we were down eighteen players, but that's no 55 00:03:24,639 --> 00:03:27,480 Speaker 1: excuse you gotta well, yeah, you've gotta go win a ball. Well, 56 00:03:27,480 --> 00:03:30,680 Speaker 1: it's it is an excuse. There there's an unprecedented global 57 00:03:30,680 --> 00:03:33,200 Speaker 1: pandemic and you're missing the third of your roster. All 58 00:03:33,240 --> 00:03:36,000 Speaker 1: of this is unprecedented and I give some of that 59 00:03:36,080 --> 00:03:41,000 Speaker 1: excuse latitude to how things have changed, because it's not 60 00:03:41,080 --> 00:03:44,960 Speaker 1: like I expect the NFL to have some greater beat 61 00:03:45,040 --> 00:03:47,440 Speaker 1: on this than the larger world. This goes back to 62 00:03:47,480 --> 00:03:50,360 Speaker 1: the conversation we had like March and April in some ways, 63 00:03:50,360 --> 00:03:52,560 Speaker 1: in terms of the testing and the way that the 64 00:03:52,680 --> 00:03:56,360 Speaker 1: NFL has had um handled this, it has sort of 65 00:03:56,400 --> 00:04:00,320 Speaker 1: been um uh an example of how busines this is 66 00:04:00,400 --> 00:04:02,760 Speaker 1: can operate. But it's not like they're gonna solve or 67 00:04:02,800 --> 00:04:04,760 Speaker 1: figure out any of these rules or change it any 68 00:04:04,800 --> 00:04:07,360 Speaker 1: better than the c d C, who is changing rules 69 00:04:07,440 --> 00:04:09,720 Speaker 1: on the fly. So they're just it's like they're trying 70 00:04:09,760 --> 00:04:12,800 Speaker 1: to get everything done possible. But I also don't know, 71 00:04:12,920 --> 00:04:16,560 Speaker 1: Like I don't I'm not like that angry at everything, 72 00:04:16,800 --> 00:04:18,800 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. I know there's a lot 73 00:04:18,839 --> 00:04:22,280 Speaker 1: of like there's reasons to be upset about that this 74 00:04:22,320 --> 00:04:25,000 Speaker 1: is all happening, obviously, but I'm not really sure like 75 00:04:25,240 --> 00:04:28,440 Speaker 1: who that needs to be angered towards towards other than 76 00:04:28,880 --> 00:04:32,039 Speaker 1: just life. I tend to be with you, Greg, because 77 00:04:32,080 --> 00:04:36,320 Speaker 1: it's like I would rather they remain you know, flexible, slash, 78 00:04:36,400 --> 00:04:39,080 Speaker 1: you know, nimble to use like a corpor term um 79 00:04:39,120 --> 00:04:41,320 Speaker 1: and address it is the best they can. I mean, 80 00:04:41,360 --> 00:04:43,880 Speaker 1: I think the cynical side is sort of like, well, 81 00:04:44,000 --> 00:04:46,359 Speaker 1: the NFL is going to do whatever it takes to 82 00:04:46,360 --> 00:04:48,520 Speaker 1: play the games, and you're gonna get games like we 83 00:04:48,560 --> 00:04:51,320 Speaker 1: saw on Monday night, um and in previous weeks, and 84 00:04:51,640 --> 00:04:54,160 Speaker 1: something about that is not I don't feel angry. I 85 00:04:54,200 --> 00:04:58,719 Speaker 1: feel sort of like a dull ominous um almost growing 86 00:04:58,760 --> 00:05:00,800 Speaker 1: apathy if this is what it's gonna look like the 87 00:05:00,800 --> 00:05:03,040 Speaker 1: rest of the season. But it is what it is, 88 00:05:03,120 --> 00:05:06,440 Speaker 1: I think for me though it's in Again. I think 89 00:05:06,440 --> 00:05:08,400 Speaker 1: inside the locker rooms, a lot of these players seem 90 00:05:08,440 --> 00:05:10,880 Speaker 1: to have respect for each other, whether they were vaccinated 91 00:05:10,960 --> 00:05:13,760 Speaker 1: or not. That our take I think on this is 92 00:05:13,839 --> 00:05:15,920 Speaker 1: very clear and has been all along. Go do it 93 00:05:16,200 --> 00:05:20,040 Speaker 1: for the people around you. But the unvaccinated players are 94 00:05:20,080 --> 00:05:25,560 Speaker 1: tangibly costing their teams immense opportunities and huge moments. I mean, 95 00:05:25,600 --> 00:05:27,640 Speaker 1: for Carson Wentz to make the decision he made to 96 00:05:27,720 --> 00:05:30,160 Speaker 1: not get vaccinated and to have this happen right now, 97 00:05:30,400 --> 00:05:32,520 Speaker 1: and he's not the you know, the lynch pin to 98 00:05:32,600 --> 00:05:35,760 Speaker 1: the entire team. But what if this happens to another 99 00:05:35,839 --> 00:05:38,880 Speaker 1: unvaccinated quarterback out there that that would be the case, 100 00:05:38,920 --> 00:05:42,240 Speaker 1: I mean, Darius Leonard is unvaccinated, losing him cost them. 101 00:05:42,240 --> 00:05:44,200 Speaker 1: I mean, I just, I just I think that the 102 00:05:44,279 --> 00:05:47,640 Speaker 1: decision inside an NFL team is a little different than 103 00:05:47,720 --> 00:05:50,400 Speaker 1: for some of us floating around town making that decision 104 00:05:50,440 --> 00:05:53,239 Speaker 1: on our own. I mean, it's it's it's huge because 105 00:05:53,440 --> 00:05:56,600 Speaker 1: it can connects to everyone. The Chargers are another example, 106 00:05:56,680 --> 00:06:01,320 Speaker 1: Mike Williams unvaccinated, Joey Bosa unvaccinated, aided. That creates a 107 00:06:01,320 --> 00:06:04,560 Speaker 1: bigger issue. Now. Of course, people that are vaccinated and 108 00:06:04,560 --> 00:06:07,120 Speaker 1: boosted are also getting sick right now, that's taking them 109 00:06:07,160 --> 00:06:09,440 Speaker 1: out of the mix. But when you're unvaccinated, at least 110 00:06:09,480 --> 00:06:13,440 Speaker 1: the rules currently in place, it really puts addage stress 111 00:06:13,480 --> 00:06:15,640 Speaker 1: on a team. And I think, whether we want it 112 00:06:15,680 --> 00:06:17,840 Speaker 1: this way or not, we we obviously don't, but we 113 00:06:17,880 --> 00:06:20,480 Speaker 1: just need to as football fans, as people covering the sport. 114 00:06:21,200 --> 00:06:23,560 Speaker 1: The teams themselves just have to adapt. And it's like 115 00:06:23,640 --> 00:06:25,640 Speaker 1: I think with the NFL right now, and you're seeing 116 00:06:25,880 --> 00:06:29,200 Speaker 1: with the shifting protocols and right now it's like the 117 00:06:29,240 --> 00:06:32,440 Speaker 1: old March madness adage, survive in advance. They're now just 118 00:06:32,440 --> 00:06:35,560 Speaker 1: trying to get through the season without it becoming farce. 119 00:06:35,880 --> 00:06:40,320 Speaker 1: And uh, it's just I think the frustration, uh comes 120 00:06:40,320 --> 00:06:43,000 Speaker 1: out of the fact that, man, this started in March 121 00:06:43,040 --> 00:06:46,160 Speaker 1: two thousand twenty. We went underground, we had bunker casts, 122 00:06:46,440 --> 00:06:50,120 Speaker 1: we saw the NBA season shut down, MLB, the NFL 123 00:06:50,160 --> 00:06:53,159 Speaker 1: went full speed ahead, and somehow survived it. We got 124 00:06:53,160 --> 00:06:57,320 Speaker 1: through it. And then this year twoe we had full 125 00:06:57,320 --> 00:07:00,719 Speaker 1: houses and stadiums across the country. People are going on 126 00:07:00,800 --> 00:07:03,120 Speaker 1: vacations again, and it felt like you were getting through it, 127 00:07:03,480 --> 00:07:05,479 Speaker 1: and now things are shutting down again and the leagues 128 00:07:05,480 --> 00:07:08,120 Speaker 1: are being impacted, and I think there's just this general 129 00:07:08,560 --> 00:07:11,320 Speaker 1: human situation. It's just like, oh my god, we're going 130 00:07:11,320 --> 00:07:13,640 Speaker 1: through this again. So I think the NFL is just 131 00:07:13,720 --> 00:07:16,840 Speaker 1: kind of like it's a microcosm of the greater world 132 00:07:16,920 --> 00:07:19,760 Speaker 1: right now where we're just like exhausted but have no 133 00:07:19,880 --> 00:07:22,720 Speaker 1: choice but to continue to try to make this work well. 134 00:07:22,760 --> 00:07:25,920 Speaker 1: And it's this is such a different time now than 135 00:07:27,280 --> 00:07:31,600 Speaker 1: last spring, because like everyone, you know, the league is 136 00:07:31,680 --> 00:07:34,760 Speaker 1: vaccinated and boosted. You know, we're we're required to, you know, 137 00:07:34,800 --> 00:07:37,720 Speaker 1: to work at the league. So everyone is protected in 138 00:07:37,720 --> 00:07:40,960 Speaker 1: a way that's so much stronger than than they were before. 139 00:07:40,960 --> 00:07:43,680 Speaker 1: And I think what you're seeing now is okay. Organizations 140 00:07:43,680 --> 00:07:45,400 Speaker 1: like the CDC in the NFL are like having to 141 00:07:45,440 --> 00:07:47,160 Speaker 1: adapt to like, how are we just gonna live with this? 142 00:07:47,200 --> 00:07:50,720 Speaker 1: Because it's not necessarily going away. It's certainly not going 143 00:07:50,720 --> 00:07:53,600 Speaker 1: away this season, and the NFL has actually been helpful 144 00:07:53,640 --> 00:07:55,680 Speaker 1: I think of just like showing what the public, what's 145 00:07:55,680 --> 00:07:57,600 Speaker 1: happening at the public at large in general. If a 146 00:07:57,680 --> 00:08:00,560 Speaker 1: quarter of the NFL has tested positive over the last 147 00:08:00,560 --> 00:08:03,080 Speaker 1: three weeks, which is the number, which is crazy, if 148 00:08:03,080 --> 00:08:06,560 Speaker 1: you can a quarter, uh, that's probably about what it 149 00:08:06,640 --> 00:08:09,720 Speaker 1: is in the public at least in the public that 150 00:08:09,880 --> 00:08:12,480 Speaker 1: is like going to work and interacting with other people. 151 00:08:12,520 --> 00:08:14,800 Speaker 1: Obviously there's a different segment that are that are staying 152 00:08:14,800 --> 00:08:17,280 Speaker 1: home and being very safe, not working at office and stuff. 153 00:08:17,280 --> 00:08:19,320 Speaker 1: For for people that are out in in the mix 154 00:08:19,360 --> 00:08:22,320 Speaker 1: and working like okay, it's probably like a quarter of 155 00:08:22,320 --> 00:08:24,880 Speaker 1: of that population has been infected at some point in 156 00:08:24,880 --> 00:08:27,200 Speaker 1: the last three or four weeks, whether whether you know 157 00:08:27,240 --> 00:08:31,080 Speaker 1: it or not, And uh, yeah, I hope like it 158 00:08:31,160 --> 00:08:34,360 Speaker 1: already hasn't impacted the playoff races and stuff like that. 159 00:08:34,440 --> 00:08:37,000 Speaker 1: To me, it's it's just unfortunate, but it's just kind 160 00:08:37,000 --> 00:08:38,440 Speaker 1: of like what are you gonna do about it? Greg? 161 00:08:38,440 --> 00:08:40,880 Speaker 1: There is one thing, one positive for you that came 162 00:08:40,920 --> 00:08:44,480 Speaker 1: out of this. Okay, our friend, our good buddy, Zach 163 00:08:44,559 --> 00:08:47,880 Speaker 1: Kiefer who wrote that beautiful piece on Chris Westling for 164 00:08:47,960 --> 00:08:50,400 Speaker 1: The Athletic and uh, I do urge you guys to 165 00:08:50,480 --> 00:08:52,360 Speaker 1: check it out. They removed it from the paywall for 166 00:08:52,400 --> 00:08:54,920 Speaker 1: a period last week. I don't know if it's still 167 00:08:54,960 --> 00:08:58,000 Speaker 1: that case, but worth checking in. I'll link it on 168 00:08:58,000 --> 00:09:00,600 Speaker 1: Twitter if you're interested. But anyway, the athlete exact key 169 00:09:00,600 --> 00:09:04,240 Speaker 1: for reports the Colts have discussed contacting free agent Philip 170 00:09:04,320 --> 00:09:07,400 Speaker 1: Rivers after Carson Wentz was placed on the reserve COVID 171 00:09:07,480 --> 00:09:10,240 Speaker 1: nineteen list Tuesday. I don't know. That doesn't seem to 172 00:09:10,280 --> 00:09:12,600 Speaker 1: make a lot of sense to me, just because even 173 00:09:12,640 --> 00:09:16,120 Speaker 1: if it Wentz MS is a game, wouldn't Sam Ellinger 174 00:09:16,200 --> 00:09:19,200 Speaker 1: the backup be a better option than Rivers off the 175 00:09:19,240 --> 00:09:21,640 Speaker 1: street on like three days notice. I don't know. It 176 00:09:21,679 --> 00:09:23,920 Speaker 1: just seems kind of silly, but also a fun little story, 177 00:09:24,000 --> 00:09:27,320 Speaker 1: especially for the people who love Rivers. It would be fun. No, 178 00:09:27,400 --> 00:09:29,640 Speaker 1: I would think, depending I don't know how good Sam 179 00:09:29,640 --> 00:09:32,520 Speaker 1: Ellinger is, but we've seen some of these backups come in. 180 00:09:32,760 --> 00:09:35,640 Speaker 1: I would kind of think Rivers on three days rest, 181 00:09:35,800 --> 00:09:37,120 Speaker 1: I mean, would have done a lot better than he 182 00:09:37,200 --> 00:09:40,880 Speaker 1: and book on on Monday night. I um, I don't 183 00:09:40,880 --> 00:09:43,320 Speaker 1: know that because these rules like okay, so there's a 184 00:09:43,440 --> 00:09:46,600 Speaker 1: chance that Carson WENTZ even if he did test positive, 185 00:09:46,640 --> 00:09:48,600 Speaker 1: which we don't know, we're taping at a tough time, 186 00:09:49,480 --> 00:09:53,560 Speaker 1: could play on Sunday even though he's unvaccinated if he 187 00:09:53,600 --> 00:09:55,960 Speaker 1: doesn't have symptoms. But it's also it comes down to 188 00:09:56,040 --> 00:09:58,400 Speaker 1: the symptoms. I think one thing you know that we've 189 00:09:58,440 --> 00:10:01,240 Speaker 1: seen with players coming back or not even when they 190 00:10:01,240 --> 00:10:03,800 Speaker 1: are vaccinated, like everyone's on a different timeline. A lot 191 00:10:03,840 --> 00:10:06,640 Speaker 1: of them, including like Baker for instance, are needing to 192 00:10:06,679 --> 00:10:09,080 Speaker 1: take that ten days because they're not testing out of it. 193 00:10:09,120 --> 00:10:11,240 Speaker 1: And so we don't know all the details of how 194 00:10:11,720 --> 00:10:13,880 Speaker 1: they'll change these rules, but I think, you know, it 195 00:10:13,920 --> 00:10:18,280 Speaker 1: makes sense that they're trying to get the asymptomatic players, 196 00:10:18,600 --> 00:10:21,200 Speaker 1: especially whether you're you know, either way back on the 197 00:10:21,240 --> 00:10:24,160 Speaker 1: field sooner than later. And it's you know, it's thanks 198 00:10:24,200 --> 00:10:27,280 Speaker 1: for the teams that that lost these guys a couple 199 00:10:27,280 --> 00:10:29,280 Speaker 1: of weeks ago when the rules were different. I mean, 200 00:10:29,559 --> 00:10:32,120 Speaker 1: think about Allen Robinson, who's who came back saying that 201 00:10:32,120 --> 00:10:35,560 Speaker 1: he lost ten pounds, so you know, it's there are hot, 202 00:10:35,559 --> 00:10:39,040 Speaker 1: heavy cases of asymptomatic scenarios, but it's not the case 203 00:10:39,120 --> 00:10:42,360 Speaker 1: all around. I mean said he couldn't walk up and down, 204 00:10:42,440 --> 00:10:44,440 Speaker 1: you know, to do his laundry and stuff. There is 205 00:10:44,520 --> 00:10:46,960 Speaker 1: a difference of like of these cases. You're right, like 206 00:10:47,000 --> 00:10:50,040 Speaker 1: some some players Dion Dawkins thought it was life threatening, 207 00:10:50,160 --> 00:10:52,480 Speaker 1: you know, not too long ago. It is great for 208 00:10:52,640 --> 00:10:55,800 Speaker 1: HBO is. Suddenly you've got Philip Rivers riding in on 209 00:10:55,880 --> 00:10:59,560 Speaker 1: horseback to save the cults in weeks sixteen or seventeen 210 00:10:59,600 --> 00:11:02,839 Speaker 1: or eighteen. I mean, that's kind of somehow doubt that's 211 00:11:02,840 --> 00:11:05,880 Speaker 1: gonna happen. I don't know. I'm not as fascinated with 212 00:11:05,920 --> 00:11:09,160 Speaker 1: Philip Rivers as I see a subset of individuals. Um 213 00:11:09,200 --> 00:11:12,000 Speaker 1: there seems to be a Philip Rivers collective. I understand 214 00:11:12,120 --> 00:11:14,600 Speaker 1: if you haven't, if you haven't raised to your premium 215 00:11:14,640 --> 00:11:17,160 Speaker 1: cable outlet to watch Hard Knocks at this point, you're 216 00:11:17,200 --> 00:11:19,080 Speaker 1: probably I don't know if Rivers is the one that 217 00:11:19,120 --> 00:11:23,080 Speaker 1: puts you over the top, but maybe people into that show. 218 00:11:23,120 --> 00:11:25,560 Speaker 1: I'm not suggesting it was gonna yank you back in, 219 00:11:26,160 --> 00:11:28,200 Speaker 1: you know, I might check it out sometime in the offseason. 220 00:11:28,240 --> 00:11:31,200 Speaker 1: Although I doubt it. Uh, it's just tough. It's tough 221 00:11:32,040 --> 00:11:34,840 Speaker 1: in season because I've heard from people that have watched 222 00:11:34,880 --> 00:11:38,360 Speaker 1: it that this Tom Brady man in the arena thing 223 00:11:38,480 --> 00:11:40,360 Speaker 1: is great, like especially if you're a Patriots fan, but 224 00:11:40,440 --> 00:11:43,120 Speaker 1: even even from non Patriots fans, it's really well done. 225 00:11:43,120 --> 00:11:46,000 Speaker 1: It's really interesting. It's like that. That's why they did 226 00:11:46,080 --> 00:11:48,160 Speaker 1: the last dance, you know, the last dance came out 227 00:11:48,240 --> 00:11:50,120 Speaker 1: during COVID. That's why I was a big hit, Like 228 00:11:50,280 --> 00:11:52,640 Speaker 1: everyone wanted some football content. Throw that thing out in 229 00:11:52,679 --> 00:11:55,400 Speaker 1: May or June, and I would eat up some Tom Brady. 230 00:11:55,440 --> 00:11:58,200 Speaker 1: I don't need. I don't need Tom very straight with 231 00:11:58,240 --> 00:12:00,840 Speaker 1: you on that, like and harden Box and I love 232 00:12:00,920 --> 00:12:02,880 Speaker 1: Hard Knocks. Nobody loves Hard Knocks more than me. But 233 00:12:02,920 --> 00:12:07,400 Speaker 1: I think maybe there was a um. There was a 234 00:12:07,440 --> 00:12:10,120 Speaker 1: sense that they didn't realize how much timing plays into 235 00:12:10,120 --> 00:12:12,720 Speaker 1: the appeal of the show. That it lands at the 236 00:12:12,720 --> 00:12:15,120 Speaker 1: time where people are star for football. It's a perfect 237 00:12:15,120 --> 00:12:18,160 Speaker 1: time for a show like that to show up. Then again, 238 00:12:18,200 --> 00:12:20,360 Speaker 1: I haven't checked the ratings. Maybe they're doing better numbers 239 00:12:20,360 --> 00:12:23,560 Speaker 1: than they did. Co workers at NFL films, a lot 240 00:12:23,640 --> 00:12:27,120 Speaker 1: of people are getting paid and working working on a 241 00:12:27,160 --> 00:12:30,920 Speaker 1: new production. So that's good and being checked by Greg 242 00:12:31,280 --> 00:12:34,120 Speaker 1: nice nicely done, Greg, And uh, I'm all set with 243 00:12:34,720 --> 00:12:38,200 Speaker 1: like seventeen part Tom Brady retrospectives personally. But I'm sure 244 00:12:38,440 --> 00:12:42,200 Speaker 1: there is a large audience for that now. It's being 245 00:12:42,200 --> 00:12:45,960 Speaker 1: in large audiences. You know, back back in the eighties 246 00:12:45,960 --> 00:12:49,160 Speaker 1: and early nineties, there was a very large audience on 247 00:12:49,600 --> 00:12:51,360 Speaker 1: Friday nights, I believe it was. But it started to 248 00:12:51,400 --> 00:12:53,160 Speaker 1: move around, but you always knew you would have Robert 249 00:12:53,200 --> 00:12:58,720 Speaker 1: Stack there. It was Unsolved Mysteries on NBC, the Peacock Network. 250 00:12:58,800 --> 00:13:03,319 Speaker 1: And it is time now, with just two weeks remaining 251 00:13:03,320 --> 00:13:07,520 Speaker 1: in the regular season, to offer up some of our 252 00:13:07,559 --> 00:13:13,000 Speaker 1: own unsolved mysteries in the NFL. Get ready for that 253 00:13:15,240 --> 00:13:24,800 Speaker 1: spooky as hell. But before we get to that, yes, 254 00:13:24,960 --> 00:13:26,760 Speaker 1: let's wrap up. Let's put a bow. Let's put a 255 00:13:26,840 --> 00:13:32,160 Speaker 1: Christmas bow. On Week sixteen, Monday Night football, third quarter, 256 00:13:32,240 --> 00:13:34,480 Speaker 1: crips to the left, how they put Lindsay back in 257 00:13:34,559 --> 00:13:38,520 Speaker 1: the backfield? Were open on the inside of the waa 258 00:13:38,600 --> 00:13:45,360 Speaker 1: waa Clichs down confused everybody, what a great call, A 259 00:13:45,440 --> 00:13:51,360 Speaker 1: great call. Indeed, Dolphins Radio Network, Charles Gatzi, you know 260 00:13:51,400 --> 00:13:53,600 Speaker 1: we've had our fun on this show and other shows 261 00:13:53,600 --> 00:13:56,680 Speaker 1: have as well. With all the different offensive coordinators in 262 00:13:56,720 --> 00:13:58,679 Speaker 1: place for the Dolphins, but they seem to be a 263 00:13:58,720 --> 00:14:02,080 Speaker 1: team that had a game plan on Monday Night against 264 00:14:02,120 --> 00:14:06,080 Speaker 1: the Saints, and a lot of that revolved around young 265 00:14:06,200 --> 00:14:10,079 Speaker 1: Jalen Wattle, who's really developing into a star in year one. 266 00:14:10,440 --> 00:14:13,880 Speaker 1: The Dolphins got enough offense and the defense did the 267 00:14:14,000 --> 00:14:19,720 Speaker 1: rest with eight sacks of poor Ian Book in a 268 00:14:19,960 --> 00:14:24,200 Speaker 1: twenty three win over the Saints. The Dolphins now become 269 00:14:24,240 --> 00:14:27,040 Speaker 1: the first team in NFL history to have a seven 270 00:14:27,080 --> 00:14:30,480 Speaker 1: game losing streak and a seven game winning streak in 271 00:14:30,560 --> 00:14:34,040 Speaker 1: the same year. And that could only happen. I am 272 00:14:34,320 --> 00:14:37,280 Speaker 1: there's absolutely something in the in the water this season. 273 00:14:38,080 --> 00:14:40,680 Speaker 1: So there you go. The Dolphins eight and seven, currently 274 00:14:40,760 --> 00:14:44,080 Speaker 1: in possession of that second playoff spot, and if they 275 00:14:44,080 --> 00:14:47,000 Speaker 1: win their last two games, Greg, they are going to 276 00:14:47,040 --> 00:14:49,240 Speaker 1: the dance and we would become one of the most 277 00:14:49,320 --> 00:14:53,280 Speaker 1: unlikely playoff teams really ever, And I think they could 278 00:14:53,280 --> 00:14:55,760 Speaker 1: do it. They would have to beat the Titans, you know, 279 00:14:55,800 --> 00:14:59,680 Speaker 1: this week the pass rush against that Titans offensive line. 280 00:14:59,680 --> 00:15:03,360 Speaker 1: Will talk about that later in the week, but this 281 00:15:03,400 --> 00:15:05,560 Speaker 1: game was just like one to get out of the 282 00:15:05,600 --> 00:15:07,320 Speaker 1: way they could have played at ten times. I don't 283 00:15:07,320 --> 00:15:09,320 Speaker 1: think in book and the Saints are gonna score more 284 00:15:09,360 --> 00:15:14,400 Speaker 1: than ten points in any of them. This Dolphins pass rush, 285 00:15:14,800 --> 00:15:18,680 Speaker 1: uh is awesome, but it's exactly what you would expect 286 00:15:18,760 --> 00:15:21,960 Speaker 1: from a fourth string quarterback who was a third day 287 00:15:22,040 --> 00:15:26,600 Speaker 1: draft pick rookie playing behind at the beginning of the 288 00:15:26,640 --> 00:15:30,360 Speaker 1: game the sixth and seventh string tackles of the Saints, 289 00:15:30,680 --> 00:15:32,280 Speaker 1: and then during the game there was an injury, so 290 00:15:32,320 --> 00:15:35,840 Speaker 1: it became the seventh and eighth string tackles of the Saints. 291 00:15:36,040 --> 00:15:38,520 Speaker 1: They were also missing a ton of defensive players. Of course, 292 00:15:38,560 --> 00:15:40,760 Speaker 1: a lot of these are injuries, not just COVID, but 293 00:15:40,800 --> 00:15:44,280 Speaker 1: they were they were hammered by COVID. And this Dolphins 294 00:15:44,920 --> 00:15:47,120 Speaker 1: um good luck that they've had in terms of their 295 00:15:47,160 --> 00:15:50,600 Speaker 1: opponents definitely carried over into Monday night because I think 296 00:15:50,640 --> 00:15:52,840 Speaker 1: you looked at what the Dolphins offense did, putting up 297 00:15:52,880 --> 00:15:55,720 Speaker 1: only thirteen points in that game, and and you think, well, 298 00:15:55,760 --> 00:15:58,400 Speaker 1: if they if they had tassom Uh, they would have 299 00:15:58,520 --> 00:16:00,800 Speaker 1: had a chance, or Trevor in me and maybe they 300 00:16:00,800 --> 00:16:02,920 Speaker 1: would have had a chance, and some of their other players. 301 00:16:02,960 --> 00:16:07,320 Speaker 1: But the balls bouncing the Dolphins way this year, Yeah, 302 00:16:07,360 --> 00:16:10,440 Speaker 1: I mean it's I I really felt for the Saints 303 00:16:10,520 --> 00:16:14,200 Speaker 1: because they had you know, more than of their active 304 00:16:14,280 --> 00:16:17,200 Speaker 1: roster were called up. Sean Payton talked about the fact 305 00:16:17,240 --> 00:16:20,760 Speaker 1: that they were um fitting players for equipment. Um, you 306 00:16:20,760 --> 00:16:22,400 Speaker 1: know the day of the game. They had never been 307 00:16:22,400 --> 00:16:24,920 Speaker 1: in Saints uniform before on any level. And you know, 308 00:16:25,000 --> 00:16:28,600 Speaker 1: I mean I still that defense I had in four years, right, 309 00:16:28,640 --> 00:16:30,840 Speaker 1: I mean, it's just it's we're in. We're in, like, um, 310 00:16:30,880 --> 00:16:32,480 Speaker 1: you know, for those of a certain age, you look 311 00:16:32,720 --> 00:16:36,240 Speaker 1: remember back to the seven like strike where they had 312 00:16:36,280 --> 00:16:38,360 Speaker 1: the six the so called scabs come in for three 313 00:16:38,400 --> 00:16:41,120 Speaker 1: weeks and it was guys that a week earlier where um, 314 00:16:41,160 --> 00:16:47,200 Speaker 1: you know working in like absolutely it was as quarterback. Yeah. 315 00:16:47,240 --> 00:16:48,760 Speaker 1: But I just I look at you know, like last night, 316 00:16:48,800 --> 00:16:52,960 Speaker 1: Marcus Davenporne, for instance, Cam Jordan's like Marshawn Lattimore gave 317 00:16:53,000 --> 00:16:55,160 Speaker 1: him a chance with that interception in the offense. Just 318 00:16:55,200 --> 00:16:57,400 Speaker 1: could you know, two weeks in a row with Taysom 319 00:16:57,400 --> 00:17:00,520 Speaker 1: against the Bucks, this offense just cannot delive. And last 320 00:17:00,600 --> 00:17:02,320 Speaker 1: night you knew that you knew they wouldn't deliver it, 321 00:17:02,320 --> 00:17:04,520 Speaker 1: but they were doomed in Ian book, like I walk 322 00:17:04,560 --> 00:17:06,720 Speaker 1: away with like, yeah, I didn't look good, but I 323 00:17:06,720 --> 00:17:09,200 Speaker 1: I'll wait another day to discern what sort of player 324 00:17:09,240 --> 00:17:11,800 Speaker 1: he is. He was in a terrible situation, honestly, like 325 00:17:11,880 --> 00:17:15,080 Speaker 1: if anyone deserves a make good from the football gods 326 00:17:15,560 --> 00:17:17,640 Speaker 1: down the line, it's Ian Book. I hope he gets 327 00:17:17,800 --> 00:17:21,520 Speaker 1: a better opportunity. And this isn't like how we remember him, 328 00:17:21,560 --> 00:17:26,480 Speaker 1: because frankly, this is another example of how unfair um 329 00:17:26,520 --> 00:17:28,760 Speaker 1: and how difficult it is to be trying to play 330 00:17:28,800 --> 00:17:32,200 Speaker 1: this season during a pandemic that's exploding. There's no reason 331 00:17:32,200 --> 00:17:34,080 Speaker 1: that kids should have been on the field. It was 332 00:17:34,160 --> 00:17:38,480 Speaker 1: the detriment to him personally and the team, and they 333 00:17:38,520 --> 00:17:42,399 Speaker 1: had no other choice. You Philip rivers, You could have 334 00:17:42,440 --> 00:17:44,560 Speaker 1: called the Philip Rivers. But Jameis Winson and I are 335 00:17:45,000 --> 00:17:48,000 Speaker 1: Taysom Hill Covid Trevor Simeon Covid. So you run out 336 00:17:48,080 --> 00:17:51,760 Speaker 1: this poor kid who gets obliterated by this hard charging 337 00:17:51,800 --> 00:17:55,360 Speaker 1: Dolphins defense that smelled blood in the water, and with 338 00:17:55,400 --> 00:17:58,920 Speaker 1: the with the Saints. To me, they're the Ravens of 339 00:17:58,960 --> 00:18:01,760 Speaker 1: the a f C, a once promising team that simply 340 00:18:01,840 --> 00:18:05,159 Speaker 1: is endured too much that the walls have eventually caved in. 341 00:18:05,200 --> 00:18:08,359 Speaker 1: Here because nobody I don't care who your coach is. Uh, 342 00:18:08,359 --> 00:18:11,160 Speaker 1: there's no way you could sustain this. So that that's 343 00:18:11,200 --> 00:18:13,320 Speaker 1: just a tough break. And I know their playoff hopes 344 00:18:13,320 --> 00:18:18,760 Speaker 1: are still somewhat intact, although it's becoming more. They got 345 00:18:18,800 --> 00:18:22,480 Speaker 1: Panthers Falcons, so those are two winnable games if they 346 00:18:22,520 --> 00:18:25,439 Speaker 1: get a lot of these players back, which they probably should, 347 00:18:25,440 --> 00:18:28,159 Speaker 1: including their quarterback. It's the tackles that has hurt them. 348 00:18:28,160 --> 00:18:30,280 Speaker 1: But they set an NFL record last night for the 349 00:18:30,280 --> 00:18:34,280 Speaker 1: most starters used in a season, and that extra week 350 00:18:34,400 --> 00:18:39,479 Speaker 1: that is crazy. That's and it's like, yeah, maybe you 351 00:18:39,520 --> 00:18:41,840 Speaker 1: could you could look ahead and say they'll get healthy. Well, 352 00:18:42,200 --> 00:18:44,280 Speaker 1: the way things have gone, it could get worse from here, 353 00:18:44,359 --> 00:18:46,240 Speaker 1: you know, And I would say it's more likely that's 354 00:18:46,240 --> 00:18:48,120 Speaker 1: where it goes, because it's just one of those star 355 00:18:48,200 --> 00:18:52,080 Speaker 1: cross seasons. And and back to the Dolphins, all right, 356 00:18:52,200 --> 00:18:55,119 Speaker 1: let's see it. Let's see it now. Because I'm not 357 00:18:55,200 --> 00:18:57,919 Speaker 1: alone on this. I still I'm not buying in. I 358 00:18:58,000 --> 00:19:00,680 Speaker 1: haven't like twelve on the power ranking, just because when 359 00:19:00,680 --> 00:19:02,400 Speaker 1: you win seven in a row, you gotta keep moving 360 00:19:02,480 --> 00:19:05,480 Speaker 1: up as the weeks go along. But this has been 361 00:19:05,520 --> 00:19:10,040 Speaker 1: an absurdly easy schedule. It's been a historically easy schedule. Uh, 362 00:19:10,119 --> 00:19:13,160 Speaker 1: the ian Book thing was crazy that that fell into 363 00:19:13,200 --> 00:19:14,800 Speaker 1: their lap and what should have been a must win 364 00:19:14,920 --> 00:19:17,800 Speaker 1: game for the Saints at home in primetime and it 365 00:19:17,840 --> 00:19:20,080 Speaker 1: all kind of got washed away. So the Dolphins take 366 00:19:20,080 --> 00:19:23,359 Speaker 1: care of business again. But now Titans, now Patriots, and 367 00:19:23,400 --> 00:19:26,119 Speaker 1: if you really are a team that I should be 368 00:19:26,160 --> 00:19:31,359 Speaker 1: taking seriously when both these games complete this unlikely journey. Otherwise, 369 00:19:32,160 --> 00:19:34,119 Speaker 1: thanks for the memories and we move on with the 370 00:19:34,119 --> 00:19:36,320 Speaker 1: real relevant teams. And they if they beat the Titans 371 00:19:36,320 --> 00:19:38,200 Speaker 1: with a j Brown back and they and they show 372 00:19:38,480 --> 00:19:40,879 Speaker 1: you know that they can answer on offense to some degree, 373 00:19:41,359 --> 00:19:43,119 Speaker 1: that would help me a lot. I'm with you to 374 00:19:43,160 --> 00:19:45,080 Speaker 1: some degree, dan on in terms of like what I 375 00:19:45,119 --> 00:19:47,960 Speaker 1: think about Miami, but I mean, to go do what 376 00:19:48,000 --> 00:19:50,480 Speaker 1: they've done on defense. They are a legitimate team you 377 00:19:50,520 --> 00:19:52,600 Speaker 1: do not want to deal with. I just I think 378 00:19:52,640 --> 00:19:54,640 Speaker 1: they have This is what they did a year ago. 379 00:19:54,920 --> 00:19:57,280 Speaker 1: They diagnosed quarterbacks and make life hell. And I'm not 380 00:19:57,320 --> 00:19:58,919 Speaker 1: just talking about ian Book. And it has been a 381 00:19:58,920 --> 00:20:01,720 Speaker 1: soft schedule, but I mean, there's a reason we've never 382 00:20:01,760 --> 00:20:04,520 Speaker 1: seen a team do this to this to this extent 383 00:20:04,920 --> 00:20:08,320 Speaker 1: that a lot of it is scheduled, but the Titans 384 00:20:08,320 --> 00:20:11,520 Speaker 1: offensive line is not much is not much better. I 385 00:20:11,560 --> 00:20:14,119 Speaker 1: mean they can go win this game. That The problem, 386 00:20:14,119 --> 00:20:15,600 Speaker 1: and I think it showed up last night is the 387 00:20:15,640 --> 00:20:18,919 Speaker 1: Dolphins offensive lines even worse. They are dead last in 388 00:20:19,080 --> 00:20:22,760 Speaker 1: pass blocking grades according a PFF. They are dead last 389 00:20:22,840 --> 00:20:25,640 Speaker 1: in pass block win rate according ESPN. When you get 390 00:20:25,640 --> 00:20:28,520 Speaker 1: all the analytics sides who are kind of clashing to 391 00:20:28,600 --> 00:20:31,000 Speaker 1: agree on something, that means you're the worst. And to 392 00:20:31,240 --> 00:20:34,440 Speaker 1: uh has actually helped out this offensive line. This this 393 00:20:34,760 --> 00:20:37,280 Speaker 1: sometimes unwatchable offense where he has to get rid of 394 00:20:37,280 --> 00:20:39,119 Speaker 1: the ball in two point two seconds because that's what 395 00:20:39,160 --> 00:20:41,119 Speaker 1: he does well. It's like that's the only thing that 396 00:20:41,160 --> 00:20:44,000 Speaker 1: would work with this offensive line. He has to play 397 00:20:44,040 --> 00:20:46,359 Speaker 1: that way. But the last two weeks in Dolphins fans, 398 00:20:46,520 --> 00:20:48,120 Speaker 1: I know you agree. Even though he made a couple 399 00:20:48,119 --> 00:20:50,840 Speaker 1: of nice throws last night, he's played two of his 400 00:20:50,880 --> 00:20:54,720 Speaker 1: worst games of the season in a row, back to back. 401 00:20:55,359 --> 00:20:58,240 Speaker 1: Coming off to buy, he has made about three or 402 00:20:58,280 --> 00:21:01,400 Speaker 1: four turnover worth he plays in each of these games. 403 00:21:01,440 --> 00:21:03,879 Speaker 1: And the style of offense they play, you gotta thread 404 00:21:03,920 --> 00:21:06,159 Speaker 1: that needle. It's like a small margin for error. He 405 00:21:06,200 --> 00:21:08,639 Speaker 1: needs to be a caretaker. He needs to be like 406 00:21:08,680 --> 00:21:11,120 Speaker 1: the Alex Smith on the Chiefs type of guy if 407 00:21:11,119 --> 00:21:13,760 Speaker 1: he's given chances to the other teams like he did 408 00:21:13,760 --> 00:21:15,840 Speaker 1: three or four times last night, like they're gonna lose 409 00:21:15,840 --> 00:21:18,080 Speaker 1: that game in Tennessee or they're gonna lose in New England, 410 00:21:18,119 --> 00:21:20,000 Speaker 1: and unfortunately they probably gotta win them both to get 411 00:21:20,040 --> 00:21:25,920 Speaker 1: into the playoffs. Hey, listen, locked up the Dolphins, big win. 412 00:21:27,200 --> 00:21:29,160 Speaker 1: I got a two game lead or two. That's why 413 00:21:29,280 --> 00:21:32,560 Speaker 1: Mark was like, you know, sending us like vicious tweets 414 00:21:32,680 --> 00:21:36,520 Speaker 1: text left. I'm much happier now. I never had any 415 00:21:36,560 --> 00:21:40,119 Speaker 1: issue with you locking them up necessarily. I'm I'm post 416 00:21:40,200 --> 00:21:42,160 Speaker 1: giving an f about any of that at this at 417 00:21:42,200 --> 00:21:45,480 Speaker 1: this stake, and I just give me a break when 418 00:21:45,520 --> 00:21:48,400 Speaker 1: when Vegas. I think the thing with the lock competition 419 00:21:48,520 --> 00:21:51,959 Speaker 1: is is like, check out the spreads, look for some 420 00:21:52,000 --> 00:21:55,920 Speaker 1: things that stand out as inconsistencies. And I thought that 421 00:21:55,960 --> 00:22:00,600 Speaker 1: the Saint's Only Gotten three was bizarre with that defense 422 00:22:00,640 --> 00:22:03,560 Speaker 1: and ian books level of inexperience, and it played out 423 00:22:03,600 --> 00:22:06,640 Speaker 1: exactly like that. So a lot of people probably made 424 00:22:06,640 --> 00:22:08,600 Speaker 1: a lot of money on because I think I think 425 00:22:08,600 --> 00:22:10,480 Speaker 1: they agreed with you. It was like the you're right, 426 00:22:10,560 --> 00:22:12,760 Speaker 1: It's like I don't think Vegas knows what's to do 427 00:22:12,800 --> 00:22:15,280 Speaker 1: with this COVID stuff, because it's like, yeah, in theory, 428 00:22:15,280 --> 00:22:17,679 Speaker 1: I get it, like these the underlying numbers of the 429 00:22:17,680 --> 00:22:20,160 Speaker 1: Saints are pretty great. But it's like that that wasn't 430 00:22:20,200 --> 00:22:22,879 Speaker 1: the Saints. You gotta just gotta just suggest that people 431 00:22:22,920 --> 00:22:24,760 Speaker 1: coming after me on Twitter like, look at the mirror. 432 00:22:24,800 --> 00:22:26,840 Speaker 1: Look listen, dude, I'm not looking to win Medal of 433 00:22:26,880 --> 00:22:30,160 Speaker 1: the Valor's here. I'm just I'm looking to win games. 434 00:22:30,240 --> 00:22:32,800 Speaker 1: And let let me ask you a question. Let's say 435 00:22:32,840 --> 00:22:36,160 Speaker 1: I locked them up and you on an island game 436 00:22:36,160 --> 00:22:39,120 Speaker 1: in this situation, would you be as charitable towards me? 437 00:22:39,600 --> 00:22:42,280 Speaker 1: I would have been like, I'm joining you on that 438 00:22:42,320 --> 00:22:45,600 Speaker 1: because this is easy money. Well, let's say you say, 439 00:22:45,680 --> 00:22:48,000 Speaker 1: let's say that you went down a different avenue and 440 00:22:48,040 --> 00:22:50,639 Speaker 1: then I like won this lock. Would would there be 441 00:22:50,720 --> 00:22:54,120 Speaker 1: any would there not be a word or two of like, well, Mark, 442 00:22:54,240 --> 00:22:56,320 Speaker 1: that was very questionable. But if that's what you needed 443 00:22:56,320 --> 00:22:59,439 Speaker 1: to make a little joke, my my official comment is 444 00:23:00,080 --> 00:23:02,600 Speaker 1: that's neither here nor there. Mark, Well that is that is, 445 00:23:02,640 --> 00:23:04,520 Speaker 1: of course that's what you're gonna say. But I mean, 446 00:23:04,600 --> 00:23:08,320 Speaker 1: I think everyone listening understands how that would have been handled. 447 00:23:08,440 --> 00:23:12,560 Speaker 1: Mark of my one of my joys. Things that I 448 00:23:12,600 --> 00:23:14,840 Speaker 1: like about this podcast, and there's so many things. That's 449 00:23:14,840 --> 00:23:16,399 Speaker 1: been one of the great things that I've ever had 450 00:23:16,440 --> 00:23:19,480 Speaker 1: in my life is riling up the quiet storm. It's 451 00:23:19,520 --> 00:23:22,960 Speaker 1: sometimes it gives me a little, you know, little juice. Well, 452 00:23:23,000 --> 00:23:27,040 Speaker 1: I'm too down now because of a disastrous two weeks 453 00:23:27,040 --> 00:23:30,280 Speaker 1: where I went against the cults. Um, I have learned 454 00:23:30,280 --> 00:23:33,800 Speaker 1: major lessons. I'm not touching that team again. Oh yeah, 455 00:23:34,720 --> 00:23:39,120 Speaker 1: the team that's one nine of ten did not did 456 00:23:39,160 --> 00:23:42,159 Speaker 1: not pay off. What about Sam Elinger though maybe you 457 00:23:42,160 --> 00:23:44,200 Speaker 1: want to lock up against him again, but the Raiders 458 00:23:44,240 --> 00:23:45,640 Speaker 1: they kind of stand at it. We'll get to all 459 00:23:45,680 --> 00:23:48,600 Speaker 1: that on Thursday. Let's take a break, and then we're 460 00:23:48,600 --> 00:23:52,960 Speaker 1: gonna try to solve some mysteries. This program is about 461 00:23:53,040 --> 00:23:57,399 Speaker 1: unsolved mysteries. Whenever possible, the actual family members and police 462 00:23:57,440 --> 00:24:01,560 Speaker 1: officials have participated in recreating the What you were about 463 00:24:01,600 --> 00:24:09,000 Speaker 1: to see is not a news broadcast. Yes, welcome back 464 00:24:09,040 --> 00:24:12,480 Speaker 1: to the broadcast and or the podcast, I should say, 465 00:24:12,680 --> 00:24:18,920 Speaker 1: And it is time. The NFL regular season, a strange 466 00:24:19,359 --> 00:24:22,440 Speaker 1: a season as you can never recall, has two weeks 467 00:24:22,440 --> 00:24:27,000 Speaker 1: remaining in the regular season. In mark the biggest season. 468 00:24:28,280 --> 00:24:32,520 Speaker 1: Football is family. Football is now your family. They can 469 00:24:32,560 --> 00:24:35,360 Speaker 1: they can throw any slogan they want at what we're 470 00:24:35,400 --> 00:24:38,920 Speaker 1: witnessing off though, five and five days and no football 471 00:24:38,960 --> 00:24:41,879 Speaker 1: after eight primetime games and ten days we have five 472 00:24:41,960 --> 00:24:47,160 Speaker 1: days of no football. Mark, well eight out of ten 473 00:24:47,280 --> 00:24:49,040 Speaker 1: days was a bit heavy. I mean it was a 474 00:24:49,080 --> 00:24:51,600 Speaker 1: little bit. It's like I would like to eat those 475 00:24:51,640 --> 00:24:53,760 Speaker 1: pizza slices I mentioned. I wouldn't want it to be 476 00:24:53,800 --> 00:24:56,920 Speaker 1: the only thing I eat NonStop, every meal, all day long. 477 00:24:57,640 --> 00:25:00,600 Speaker 1: I totally get it. I get it. The commissary, it's 478 00:25:00,600 --> 00:25:02,600 Speaker 1: all on the arm. As Keith Anders would say, we're 479 00:25:02,600 --> 00:25:04,000 Speaker 1: not paying for it. You know, it's the only thing 480 00:25:04,040 --> 00:25:09,520 Speaker 1: better than pizza, free pizza. Yeah, oh yeah. Anyway, it's 481 00:25:09,560 --> 00:25:13,880 Speaker 1: been a mysterious, spooky NFL season, and now we're gonna 482 00:25:13,920 --> 00:25:17,080 Speaker 1: try to well, what we're gonna do here is kind of, 483 00:25:17,280 --> 00:25:21,280 Speaker 1: uh open up, open the kimono of mystery here and 484 00:25:21,359 --> 00:25:24,800 Speaker 1: lay out some things that are completely impossible to decipher 485 00:25:25,320 --> 00:25:29,720 Speaker 1: to the average person, um perhaps to us, and then 486 00:25:29,760 --> 00:25:32,720 Speaker 1: we'll try to use logic to to crack the mystery. Now, 487 00:25:32,880 --> 00:25:36,640 Speaker 1: as you know, Mark is a child of the eighties. Um, 488 00:25:36,680 --> 00:25:39,240 Speaker 1: sometimes you get that update and when you get the update, 489 00:25:39,280 --> 00:25:41,680 Speaker 1: and then something update, and then they tell you this 490 00:25:41,720 --> 00:25:44,520 Speaker 1: man did see an alien. Actually turns out he was 491 00:25:44,560 --> 00:25:47,160 Speaker 1: clinically insane and they put him in an asylum. Like 492 00:25:47,280 --> 00:25:49,000 Speaker 1: it's good to get the update. We can't hit you 493 00:25:49,000 --> 00:25:51,040 Speaker 1: with an update right now. But here's the good thing 494 00:25:51,040 --> 00:25:54,920 Speaker 1: about football. All these unsolved mysteries will get the update 495 00:25:55,600 --> 00:25:59,720 Speaker 1: by February that we could promise you, or a little after. 496 00:26:00,320 --> 00:26:04,520 Speaker 1: Let's get into it. Mark, you are a conspiracy theorist. 497 00:26:04,600 --> 00:26:07,879 Speaker 1: This program is right up your alley, the segments up 498 00:26:07,880 --> 00:26:11,360 Speaker 1: your alley. So get us going with the first unsob mystery. 499 00:26:11,640 --> 00:26:16,520 Speaker 1: All right, I will title this project poison Beak. And 500 00:26:16,600 --> 00:26:20,280 Speaker 1: here's what I'm unfurling to you. Have the Cardinals been 501 00:26:20,400 --> 00:26:24,280 Speaker 1: subject to a hush hush government op aimed at gathering 502 00:26:24,400 --> 00:26:27,760 Speaker 1: data on what happens when an entire football team and 503 00:26:27,760 --> 00:26:32,440 Speaker 1: its coaching staff, unbeknownst to them, ingest pure strained psilocybin 504 00:26:32,800 --> 00:26:36,200 Speaker 1: via the team cafeteria soft serve ice cream machine. One 505 00:26:36,240 --> 00:26:38,919 Speaker 1: big issue is that Kyler Murray is obsessed with that 506 00:26:39,040 --> 00:26:43,160 Speaker 1: vanilla chocolate strawberry neo politan swirl option and has spent 507 00:26:43,200 --> 00:26:46,040 Speaker 1: the past twenty one days in a trenchant haze. This 508 00:26:46,119 --> 00:26:49,520 Speaker 1: is another way of asking, are these birds cooked? Have 509 00:26:49,640 --> 00:26:53,119 Speaker 1: they migrated into another world? Can Kyler win big games 510 00:26:53,200 --> 00:26:56,600 Speaker 1: under the lights? Is Cliff Gangsberry built for the long haul? 511 00:26:56,680 --> 00:26:59,879 Speaker 1: Et cetera, et cetera, et cetera. You know everybody dre 512 00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:07,280 Speaker 1: by the way, psilocybin reference by Mark Sel Government did 513 00:27:07,640 --> 00:27:10,520 Speaker 1: LSD experiments for years and years. Looking right, I'd like 514 00:27:10,560 --> 00:27:13,840 Speaker 1: to drink some psilocybin, you know, a little New Year's 515 00:27:13,880 --> 00:27:18,719 Speaker 1: Eve or something New Orleans. So the unsolved mystery is 516 00:27:19,359 --> 00:27:22,760 Speaker 1: are the Cardinals cooked? Have they peaked? It's a It's 517 00:27:22,760 --> 00:27:25,359 Speaker 1: a great one because either way I look at the 518 00:27:25,359 --> 00:27:30,640 Speaker 1: Cardinals right now is yes, they fit every profile as 519 00:27:30,680 --> 00:27:33,320 Speaker 1: one of those teams they started seven and oh their 520 00:27:33,359 --> 00:27:36,560 Speaker 1: five and eight. Since they've lost their best playmaker on 521 00:27:36,600 --> 00:27:39,680 Speaker 1: the outside, they seem to have lost that confidence and 522 00:27:39,760 --> 00:27:43,760 Speaker 1: that mojo that made them so special to start the year. Uh, 523 00:27:43,800 --> 00:27:46,399 Speaker 1: they could be kind of heading towards that ten and 524 00:27:46,520 --> 00:27:48,480 Speaker 1: seven finish and then a wipe out in the first 525 00:27:48,560 --> 00:27:52,240 Speaker 1: round and then a ton of questions. However, Kyler Murray 526 00:27:52,359 --> 00:27:56,520 Speaker 1: is special. So that's to me like boring down a 527 00:27:56,520 --> 00:27:59,600 Speaker 1: little more. The unsaved mystery is how special is Kyler Murray. 528 00:27:59,760 --> 00:28:02,520 Speaker 1: I the next few weeks are critical test because the 529 00:28:02,520 --> 00:28:05,360 Speaker 1: true franchise star can put a team on its back 530 00:28:05,400 --> 00:28:07,840 Speaker 1: and take them out of a valley and get him 531 00:28:07,840 --> 00:28:11,040 Speaker 1: back to the peak. If he doesn't a year after 532 00:28:11,080 --> 00:28:14,119 Speaker 1: they faded uh In and I understand who was injured 533 00:28:14,160 --> 00:28:17,119 Speaker 1: that year, I think questions will start to build, not 534 00:28:17,240 --> 00:28:20,400 Speaker 1: just around Cliff Kingsbury, but Kyler Murray as well. I'm 535 00:28:20,400 --> 00:28:23,440 Speaker 1: not worried about Kyler, you know, I am a little 536 00:28:23,480 --> 00:28:26,640 Speaker 1: worried about this coaching staff and Cliff Kingsbury. Certainly they'll 537 00:28:26,680 --> 00:28:28,920 Speaker 1: look better when they get ron Dale Moore James Conner back. 538 00:28:28,960 --> 00:28:31,560 Speaker 1: Maybe they will for for this Dallas game this week. 539 00:28:31,880 --> 00:28:36,720 Speaker 1: But the tweet going around on Tuesday that really caught 540 00:28:36,760 --> 00:28:39,959 Speaker 1: my eye about Cliff Kingsbury's record in the first seven 541 00:28:40,000 --> 00:28:44,600 Speaker 1: games of his season compared to after that is remarkable. 542 00:28:44,720 --> 00:28:47,600 Speaker 1: This this goes back to Texas Tech. He's forty two 543 00:28:47,600 --> 00:28:50,480 Speaker 1: and twenty in the first seven games in sixteen and 544 00:28:50,560 --> 00:28:52,560 Speaker 1: forty three after that. If you just want to do 545 00:28:52,600 --> 00:28:56,200 Speaker 1: the Cardinals, they're fifteen five and one in the first 546 00:28:56,240 --> 00:29:00,520 Speaker 1: seven games in eight and eight, eight and eighteen after that. 547 00:29:00,720 --> 00:29:04,600 Speaker 1: So maybe maybe it's just weird numbers sticking against the wall. 548 00:29:04,640 --> 00:29:09,680 Speaker 1: But whatever the idea that um is around that the 549 00:29:09,720 --> 00:29:11,760 Speaker 1: first couple of months of the season are one thing, 550 00:29:11,800 --> 00:29:15,800 Speaker 1: and then teams start adjusting to what you've done and 551 00:29:15,840 --> 00:29:18,840 Speaker 1: it's on you to adjust to that. It's like they're 552 00:29:18,840 --> 00:29:21,480 Speaker 1: not doing any adjusting. They're playing their worst when it 553 00:29:21,560 --> 00:29:23,520 Speaker 1: matters the most. There are There are a lot of 554 00:29:23,560 --> 00:29:28,320 Speaker 1: examples of teams, including the Super Bowl Cardinals, including Patriots, 555 00:29:28,360 --> 00:29:30,600 Speaker 1: including the Ravens when they won the Super Bowl. Who's 556 00:29:30,600 --> 00:29:33,160 Speaker 1: stunk in December and turned it back on. This team 557 00:29:33,200 --> 00:29:36,160 Speaker 1: has the juice and the players to be that sort 558 00:29:36,160 --> 00:29:37,680 Speaker 1: of team. I don't know if they have the coaching 559 00:29:37,720 --> 00:29:40,800 Speaker 1: staff though. Most most of those numbers that you mentioned 560 00:29:41,200 --> 00:29:44,720 Speaker 1: for Arizona's fast start, I mean obviously come this year 561 00:29:44,800 --> 00:29:47,200 Speaker 1: because they were five and ten and one under his 562 00:29:47,280 --> 00:29:50,320 Speaker 1: first season. Now last year, I would attribute that to 563 00:29:50,480 --> 00:29:52,720 Speaker 1: the to the to the Kyler Murray injury. I didn't 564 00:29:52,840 --> 00:29:56,440 Speaker 1: all seven. They were worse in their last after the 565 00:29:56,480 --> 00:29:59,479 Speaker 1: first seven. Like that's been consistent every single season. There 566 00:29:59,560 --> 00:30:02,080 Speaker 1: is something crazy about that. It's I mean, I think 567 00:30:02,080 --> 00:30:04,360 Speaker 1: part of it is his system, like people were still 568 00:30:04,440 --> 00:30:06,960 Speaker 1: learning to some degree, but they were fast starters. They 569 00:30:07,000 --> 00:30:08,800 Speaker 1: I think I'm with Dan. I just feel like a 570 00:30:09,320 --> 00:30:12,320 Speaker 1: classic team that peaked. I mean, they looked unstoppable a 571 00:30:12,320 --> 00:30:14,760 Speaker 1: month ago. If they were to get wiped out by Dallas, 572 00:30:15,200 --> 00:30:17,080 Speaker 1: I mean, the end of this season is about as 573 00:30:17,160 --> 00:30:21,040 Speaker 1: ugly as one could author. All right, let us move 574 00:30:21,320 --> 00:30:28,560 Speaker 1: on up next the question that I know you've thought about, 575 00:30:29,480 --> 00:30:38,560 Speaker 1: Mark Ceciler Baker Mayfield playing his final games for the 576 00:30:38,560 --> 00:30:44,360 Speaker 1: Cleveland Browns. Is he playing for his future with back 577 00:30:44,400 --> 00:30:53,120 Speaker 1: to back games against the Pittsburgh Steelers Cincinnati Bengals? And 578 00:30:53,600 --> 00:30:56,240 Speaker 1: how crazy is it that we're even having this conversation 579 00:30:56,280 --> 00:31:00,080 Speaker 1: considering where things were in September. I will cite a 580 00:31:00,160 --> 00:31:04,920 Speaker 1: report from the Acron Beacon Journal Marla ridden Or, who 581 00:31:04,960 --> 00:31:07,280 Speaker 1: said the Browns are likely to bring in competition for 582 00:31:07,320 --> 00:31:12,000 Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield in two She also wrote in the article 583 00:31:12,520 --> 00:31:15,800 Speaker 1: that the four interception performance against the Packers on Christmas 584 00:31:16,280 --> 00:31:19,760 Speaker 1: provided Brown's bass brass with quote even more minuses on 585 00:31:19,800 --> 00:31:22,960 Speaker 1: their ledgers when deciding whether to offer Mayfield an extension 586 00:31:23,640 --> 00:31:28,440 Speaker 1: with his contract expiring after Mark, do you believe that 587 00:31:28,560 --> 00:31:33,880 Speaker 1: these next two weeks mean everything for your quarterback? I 588 00:31:33,880 --> 00:31:35,800 Speaker 1: don't know if he can really dig himself out of 589 00:31:35,840 --> 00:31:38,720 Speaker 1: the hole, unless he were to have two spectacular showings. 590 00:31:39,040 --> 00:31:41,320 Speaker 1: They made the playoffs and they got back to where 591 00:31:41,320 --> 00:31:43,360 Speaker 1: they were a year ago, and maybe one a playoff game, 592 00:31:43,640 --> 00:31:45,600 Speaker 1: and then you can look back at all this and say, 593 00:31:45,920 --> 00:31:49,640 Speaker 1: you know, the shoulder um Covid, other things around him, 594 00:31:49,720 --> 00:31:52,760 Speaker 1: you know, fell apart um. I think more likely the 595 00:31:52,880 --> 00:31:54,800 Speaker 1: last game is tough because you don't have to extend him. 596 00:31:54,800 --> 00:31:57,080 Speaker 1: I think he's here next year, and I do think 597 00:31:57,080 --> 00:31:59,320 Speaker 1: that Stefanski has a lot of faith in him. I mean, 598 00:31:59,560 --> 00:32:02,160 Speaker 1: if he melts totally over the next two weeks, I 599 00:32:02,160 --> 00:32:04,320 Speaker 1: think they are a candidate because you already heard them 600 00:32:04,360 --> 00:32:07,520 Speaker 1: linked to like the Deshaun Watson situation, they're a candidate 601 00:32:07,560 --> 00:32:10,840 Speaker 1: to explore. I don't think competition for Baker Mayfield, but 602 00:32:10,920 --> 00:32:13,680 Speaker 1: a big name replacement. I don't know what competition means, 603 00:32:13,760 --> 00:32:17,200 Speaker 1: because if you have the number one draft pick and 604 00:32:17,400 --> 00:32:21,360 Speaker 1: like you're bringing in case Keenum is competition around what 605 00:32:21,440 --> 00:32:23,720 Speaker 1: you could get, and so it's like, what does that mean. 606 00:32:23,720 --> 00:32:25,320 Speaker 1: I think you would go get the Russell Wilson, you 607 00:32:25,360 --> 00:32:28,480 Speaker 1: go after someone like Deshaun Watson, or you stuck, you 608 00:32:28,520 --> 00:32:30,720 Speaker 1: stick with him for one more year and have a 609 00:32:30,800 --> 00:32:32,440 Speaker 1: real look at who he is now. I think the 610 00:32:32,480 --> 00:32:34,920 Speaker 1: problem is I think they and we kind of know 611 00:32:35,000 --> 00:32:37,400 Speaker 1: what he is right now, and it's that's the depressing part. 612 00:32:37,480 --> 00:32:38,959 Speaker 1: I don't think this is what I thought of him 613 00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:44,440 Speaker 1: at all. Even six seven weeks ago, they are already 614 00:32:44,560 --> 00:32:49,040 Speaker 1: showing with reports like that that this could be coming. 615 00:32:49,560 --> 00:32:52,360 Speaker 1: I'm glad you you threw this mystery at It is 616 00:32:52,440 --> 00:32:55,480 Speaker 1: fascinating because it reminds me something that happened a couple 617 00:32:55,480 --> 00:32:58,240 Speaker 1: of weeks ago that really caught my eye. And it 618 00:32:58,320 --> 00:33:02,520 Speaker 1: was a couple of reports in the Cleveland Papers questioning 619 00:33:02,720 --> 00:33:08,280 Speaker 1: Kevin Stefanski's play calling and whether Baker Mayfield was put 620 00:33:08,360 --> 00:33:12,800 Speaker 1: in the best position, uh in terms of what Stefanski 621 00:33:12,880 --> 00:33:17,480 Speaker 1: was calling late game situations. Very very pro Baker piece 622 00:33:18,040 --> 00:33:22,120 Speaker 1: with some sources that Stefanski is putting him in a 623 00:33:22,160 --> 00:33:25,280 Speaker 1: bad position, intention that that he's doing a bad basically 624 00:33:25,320 --> 00:33:28,200 Speaker 1: that they're they've done a bad job play calling. I 625 00:33:28,240 --> 00:33:30,959 Speaker 1: forget which local paper, I forget which paper it was. 626 00:33:31,280 --> 00:33:35,560 Speaker 1: Didn't get a lot of buzz, but it got me thinking, like, well, 627 00:33:35,600 --> 00:33:38,720 Speaker 1: the Browns read that piece and they might have their 628 00:33:38,720 --> 00:33:41,840 Speaker 1: guesses of where that's coming from. Someone trying to protect 629 00:33:41,920 --> 00:33:44,680 Speaker 1: Baker after one of his worst games of the year, 630 00:33:44,800 --> 00:33:47,520 Speaker 1: and I started to think, like, oh, this is ugly, 631 00:33:47,760 --> 00:33:50,440 Speaker 1: Like this is there, we're already getting into like that 632 00:33:50,520 --> 00:33:54,120 Speaker 1: he said. She said stuff of like who's that fault there? 633 00:33:54,400 --> 00:33:57,880 Speaker 1: And I don't think Baker would survive that because Baker 634 00:33:57,960 --> 00:34:00,400 Speaker 1: has a little has trade value. That's a thing like 635 00:34:00,480 --> 00:34:02,920 Speaker 1: in these in these deals where Deshaun Watson and Russell 636 00:34:02,920 --> 00:34:05,600 Speaker 1: Wilson or something, it's like Baker is a nice piece 637 00:34:05,600 --> 00:34:07,720 Speaker 1: to have. Doesn't mean he's going to change your franchise, 638 00:34:07,760 --> 00:34:09,959 Speaker 1: but he has trade value. That That was the point 639 00:34:09,960 --> 00:34:12,040 Speaker 1: I was about to make, which is they picked up 640 00:34:12,080 --> 00:34:14,480 Speaker 1: the final year of his rookie deal. The extension is 641 00:34:14,520 --> 00:34:17,880 Speaker 1: probably not happening at this point, so he becomes a 642 00:34:17,880 --> 00:34:22,640 Speaker 1: tradeable asset. It was very similar to the Sam Donald 643 00:34:22,719 --> 00:34:25,719 Speaker 1: situation where the and the Panthers made the decision then 644 00:34:25,719 --> 00:34:28,720 Speaker 1: to pick up his option, but uh, the same draft class. 645 00:34:28,760 --> 00:34:31,960 Speaker 1: My point being that he doesn't have a big financial commitment. 646 00:34:32,120 --> 00:34:35,280 Speaker 1: Maybe you take him on and he upgrades your quarterback position. 647 00:34:35,320 --> 00:34:37,080 Speaker 1: You get a look at him at a not a 648 00:34:37,160 --> 00:34:39,520 Speaker 1: very high cost case. Keenum is under contract for one 649 00:34:39,520 --> 00:34:41,560 Speaker 1: more year. He knows who he is, He's a backup. 650 00:34:42,400 --> 00:34:44,279 Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield is not the type of guy. I don't 651 00:34:44,280 --> 00:34:46,759 Speaker 1: think that would be cool with Steak sticking around in 652 00:34:46,800 --> 00:34:49,640 Speaker 1: Cleveland if they went and brought in someone that became 653 00:34:49,920 --> 00:34:53,759 Speaker 1: the logical starter. So maybe a fresh break for both 654 00:34:53,800 --> 00:34:57,160 Speaker 1: sides would be in order. But I think again, to me, 655 00:34:57,480 --> 00:34:59,719 Speaker 1: I think the story has yet to be written. Even 656 00:34:59,760 --> 00:35:02,360 Speaker 1: if it seems like the writings on the wall. I 657 00:35:02,400 --> 00:35:04,440 Speaker 1: think if he balls out here and they end up 658 00:35:04,440 --> 00:35:06,239 Speaker 1: stealing the A f C. North, I think he could 659 00:35:06,320 --> 00:35:08,120 Speaker 1: change everything. And then all that stuff that you were 660 00:35:08,120 --> 00:35:11,080 Speaker 1: saying Mark about how beat up he's been, uh, and 661 00:35:11,120 --> 00:35:13,359 Speaker 1: he has been at the idea of Okay, look at 662 00:35:13,360 --> 00:35:16,680 Speaker 1: how he finished this year, look at his his body 663 00:35:16,719 --> 00:35:20,200 Speaker 1: of work last year, and he's had moments throughout his career. 664 00:35:20,400 --> 00:35:22,319 Speaker 1: And maybe they talk themselves into it, but I think 665 00:35:22,320 --> 00:35:25,440 Speaker 1: if he continues to play at a substandard level, I 666 00:35:25,440 --> 00:35:28,120 Speaker 1: think they're gonna act. But here's here's one thing I 667 00:35:28,160 --> 00:35:30,680 Speaker 1: see on the horizon. Though. Let's say they beat Pittsburgh 668 00:35:30,680 --> 00:35:33,960 Speaker 1: and he plays fine, Okay, it's gonna be ugly when 669 00:35:33,960 --> 00:35:37,120 Speaker 1: he is massively outdueled by Joe Burrow and the in 670 00:35:37,239 --> 00:35:40,240 Speaker 1: state Cincinnati Bengals in the final game of the season. 671 00:35:40,280 --> 00:35:42,880 Speaker 1: That's how this thing ends. So do you know it 672 00:35:42,920 --> 00:35:46,200 Speaker 1: doesn't It sounds like your confidence really has been shaken 673 00:35:46,719 --> 00:35:49,480 Speaker 1: quite entirely. I have no confidence in this team, and 674 00:35:49,520 --> 00:35:51,040 Speaker 1: I think it's I think that's the team I'm talking 675 00:35:51,040 --> 00:35:54,840 Speaker 1: about Baker him in the whole thing. I think that 676 00:35:55,280 --> 00:35:57,960 Speaker 1: to Greg's point, where these reports it's so it's so 677 00:35:58,080 --> 00:36:01,040 Speaker 1: countered or a year ago, there's something very dark about 678 00:36:01,040 --> 00:36:04,240 Speaker 1: these reports. And uh, you know we I think Brown's 679 00:36:04,239 --> 00:36:06,000 Speaker 1: fans thought you would escape this and you have not. 680 00:36:06,280 --> 00:36:08,480 Speaker 1: I think the Brown's front office, though, was like a 681 00:36:08,520 --> 00:36:11,600 Speaker 1: decisive group, and because of that, I think they would 682 00:36:11,600 --> 00:36:13,160 Speaker 1: get rid of I do want to clarify just what 683 00:36:13,239 --> 00:36:16,080 Speaker 1: the report was. It was when Baker talked to Kurt 684 00:36:16,120 --> 00:36:18,799 Speaker 1: Warner and he mentioned having to overcome a lot of 685 00:36:18,880 --> 00:36:22,600 Speaker 1: internal things. Uh. And then there was a Mary Kay 686 00:36:22,680 --> 00:36:27,120 Speaker 1: Cabot report of a growing disconnect between Stefanski and Mayfield 687 00:36:27,160 --> 00:36:30,000 Speaker 1: about play calling and whether they've talked about it or not. 688 00:36:30,480 --> 00:36:33,560 Speaker 1: Mary Kay said that there's been a disconnect about the 689 00:36:33,960 --> 00:36:37,400 Speaker 1: style of play golf. Interesting. Okay, Greg, you're up next 690 00:36:37,520 --> 00:36:40,040 Speaker 1: and unsolved mystery. And by the way, Greg, I'm just curious. 691 00:36:40,040 --> 00:36:41,680 Speaker 1: I think I've asked you this question before, but you 692 00:36:41,680 --> 00:36:45,200 Speaker 1: were born age thirty two? Standing up? Have you ever 693 00:36:45,200 --> 00:36:51,200 Speaker 1: seen Unsolved Mysteries? No? I never watched. Okay, I'm not 694 00:36:51,239 --> 00:36:53,560 Speaker 1: a judgment. I mean I've seen it many times because 695 00:36:53,640 --> 00:36:56,279 Speaker 1: I was, you know, flipping through the channels, or even 696 00:36:56,320 --> 00:36:59,040 Speaker 1: I was young enough to be like turning the dial. 697 00:36:59,120 --> 00:37:03,080 Speaker 1: I believe, but I don't. I never stuck on it. Alright, cool, 698 00:37:03,239 --> 00:37:06,960 Speaker 1: all right, what's your own solved mystery? Greg rosenvo Well, 699 00:37:07,040 --> 00:37:10,600 Speaker 1: let's stay in the quarterback realm since these are connected. 700 00:37:10,960 --> 00:37:16,200 Speaker 1: My unsolved mysteries is what's Russell Wilson's trade value when 701 00:37:16,239 --> 00:37:20,080 Speaker 1: he gets put on the market, Because I think he's 702 00:37:20,080 --> 00:37:23,800 Speaker 1: getting put on the market by his own people, whether 703 00:37:23,920 --> 00:37:26,680 Speaker 1: the Seahawks want to trade him or not. I think 704 00:37:27,320 --> 00:37:29,560 Speaker 1: the Russell Wilson camp is going to be running this show. 705 00:37:30,360 --> 00:37:33,840 Speaker 1: Pete Carroll says he's been having great conversations with Jody Allen, 706 00:37:33,920 --> 00:37:37,960 Speaker 1: their owner, that he doesn't want to change philosophies at all, 707 00:37:38,000 --> 00:37:40,440 Speaker 1: that he has a very tight relationship and and I 708 00:37:40,640 --> 00:37:43,840 Speaker 1: just am curious if the last twenty games of Russell 709 00:37:43,880 --> 00:37:49,520 Speaker 1: Wilson's play impacts what his trade value is whatsoever? Because 710 00:37:49,520 --> 00:37:52,880 Speaker 1: he hasn't played that well. Fair question. I think my 711 00:37:53,000 --> 00:37:56,120 Speaker 1: feeling is that a team would be willing to gamble 712 00:37:56,200 --> 00:37:59,720 Speaker 1: the house on the idea that he's still just thirty 713 00:37:59,760 --> 00:38:04,520 Speaker 1: three and maybe things just got a little stale in Seattle, 714 00:38:04,760 --> 00:38:07,040 Speaker 1: and if you give him the rights, supporting cast and 715 00:38:07,120 --> 00:38:11,400 Speaker 1: fresh coaching, he becomes that superstar guy for another five 716 00:38:11,480 --> 00:38:14,040 Speaker 1: to eight years. I think there's a team out there, 717 00:38:14,160 --> 00:38:18,319 Speaker 1: and probably multiple teams that will give up everything to 718 00:38:18,360 --> 00:38:20,240 Speaker 1: get him, and I and I mean give up everything 719 00:38:20,239 --> 00:38:22,919 Speaker 1: like what we're hearing for the Shaun Watson, like three 720 00:38:22,920 --> 00:38:25,839 Speaker 1: first round picks or two, you know, two first round 721 00:38:25,880 --> 00:38:28,360 Speaker 1: picks in a second something like that. I think he 722 00:38:28,480 --> 00:38:30,920 Speaker 1: still has that value. But I think it's a fair 723 00:38:30,960 --> 00:38:35,240 Speaker 1: point because his body of work is underwhelming. Quite frankly, 724 00:38:35,280 --> 00:38:38,800 Speaker 1: over the past two seasons. I don't think, Um, I 725 00:38:39,120 --> 00:38:40,759 Speaker 1: see where you're coming from, because it's not been the 726 00:38:40,800 --> 00:38:44,520 Speaker 1: same Russell Wilson and this season especially, um, we've become 727 00:38:44,600 --> 00:38:46,880 Speaker 1: used to seeing subpart play from him, which is, you know, 728 00:38:46,960 --> 00:38:50,120 Speaker 1: quizzical compared to everything else. But I mean, I think 729 00:38:50,160 --> 00:38:52,719 Speaker 1: of the last twenty games of Matthew Stafford before he 730 00:38:52,800 --> 00:38:55,160 Speaker 1: came to Los Angeles, where it's like, you're gonna have 731 00:38:55,320 --> 00:38:58,319 Speaker 1: teams and coaches that just look at Russell Wilson and 732 00:38:58,360 --> 00:39:02,200 Speaker 1: say clean slate, don't care what happened with Seattle as 733 00:39:02,239 --> 00:39:05,520 Speaker 1: the organization was slightly crumbling around him and him him 734 00:39:05,520 --> 00:39:08,120 Speaker 1: as well, I think his value will be supreme. Um, 735 00:39:08,200 --> 00:39:13,080 Speaker 1: Russell Wilson, you your entire team, an organization changes spiritually, 736 00:39:13,160 --> 00:39:16,759 Speaker 1: physically for the next five, six, seven years, and you 737 00:39:16,840 --> 00:39:19,799 Speaker 1: sell tickets, You've got you've got an immediate identity. I 738 00:39:19,800 --> 00:39:22,600 Speaker 1: think it's just too attractive, from ownership to coaches who 739 00:39:22,600 --> 00:39:25,279 Speaker 1: think they can fix everything, to the locker room. I mean, 740 00:39:25,320 --> 00:39:27,920 Speaker 1: it would absolutely alter the way that we view whatever 741 00:39:27,960 --> 00:39:31,160 Speaker 1: team went here, because it's it's right there for us 742 00:39:31,840 --> 00:39:36,279 Speaker 1: uh Baker and two number ones in a three for 743 00:39:36,360 --> 00:39:41,200 Speaker 1: Russell Wilson, You're you're Andrew Berry Mark Sesler. Well, I 744 00:39:41,200 --> 00:39:44,279 Speaker 1: I think number one you you. The Browns are going 745 00:39:44,360 --> 00:39:45,880 Speaker 1: to be very bold if they want to make this 746 00:39:45,960 --> 00:39:48,000 Speaker 1: decision the same way that we saw with the Rams. 747 00:39:48,440 --> 00:39:50,560 Speaker 1: I would make that move. But here's the thing. I 748 00:39:50,560 --> 00:39:53,080 Speaker 1: don't think Russell Wilson would ever go to Cleveland because 749 00:39:53,080 --> 00:39:55,680 Speaker 1: of who he's married to, because of a wide variety 750 00:39:55,680 --> 00:39:57,600 Speaker 1: of things. I just think that's a long shot. I 751 00:39:57,640 --> 00:40:00,720 Speaker 1: think that if the Jets wanted to turn that into 752 00:40:00,760 --> 00:40:03,440 Speaker 1: some sort of scenario, I think they'd have a better chance. 753 00:40:03,840 --> 00:40:06,600 Speaker 1: Um the Giants, especially the Giants have already been named 754 00:40:06,640 --> 00:40:09,880 Speaker 1: as as an obvious candidate, right and think about all 755 00:40:09,920 --> 00:40:13,839 Speaker 1: the other I agree with you guys that ultimately he'll 756 00:40:13,880 --> 00:40:16,920 Speaker 1: go for a ton I to me, I feel a 757 00:40:16,920 --> 00:40:18,960 Speaker 1: little buy or beware because it was the second half 758 00:40:19,000 --> 00:40:21,640 Speaker 1: of last season was ugly. That's a pretty long stretch 759 00:40:21,719 --> 00:40:25,080 Speaker 1: here where you wonder if he's going to age as 760 00:40:25,160 --> 00:40:28,000 Speaker 1: gracefully as some of these other quarterbacks. You know, it 761 00:40:28,040 --> 00:40:29,719 Speaker 1: reminds me a little bit bit of bent. I mean, 762 00:40:30,000 --> 00:40:32,040 Speaker 1: you still would buy in, but I'd be buy or vieware. 763 00:40:32,080 --> 00:40:34,440 Speaker 1: But it's ultimately a seller's market. Think of the teams 764 00:40:34,480 --> 00:40:36,319 Speaker 1: that are going to be desperate for a Russell Wilson 765 00:40:36,400 --> 00:40:44,280 Speaker 1: type player, Broncos, Saints, Texans, Brown's w FT, Carolina Jets. 766 00:40:44,320 --> 00:40:46,600 Speaker 1: It only takes one or two to make like that 767 00:40:46,680 --> 00:40:49,919 Speaker 1: market incredibly high. And someone to conduct Greg Greg Let's 768 00:40:49,920 --> 00:40:52,879 Speaker 1: say you were a general manager and a report came 769 00:40:52,880 --> 00:40:55,200 Speaker 1: out that Greg rosen to all the general manager decided 770 00:40:55,239 --> 00:40:58,680 Speaker 1: not to pull you know, not to pull the switch 771 00:40:58,719 --> 00:41:00,919 Speaker 1: on a Russell Wilson trade because he was concerned about 772 00:41:00,960 --> 00:41:04,400 Speaker 1: Russell Wilson's last twenty games. You would be fried on 773 00:41:04,480 --> 00:41:07,759 Speaker 1: that city's sports radio to no end. I hear what 774 00:41:07,800 --> 00:41:09,560 Speaker 1: you're saying, but I don't think that's how anyone else 775 00:41:09,600 --> 00:41:11,759 Speaker 1: is going to think about. I just don't like I 776 00:41:11,800 --> 00:41:14,839 Speaker 1: think some teams well but not not all right. I 777 00:41:14,840 --> 00:41:17,279 Speaker 1: think it's a it's a concern. Greg, you still kind 778 00:41:17,280 --> 00:41:20,320 Speaker 1: of like the Patriots. Uh, how about Mac Jones a 779 00:41:20,440 --> 00:41:27,520 Speaker 1: first and a first Jones than Russell Wilson for sure, period. 780 00:41:30,200 --> 00:41:32,000 Speaker 1: I'm not I'm not too high on Mac. I mean 781 00:41:32,080 --> 00:41:34,279 Speaker 1: Russell Wilson right now. To me, I don't want to 782 00:41:34,280 --> 00:41:36,520 Speaker 1: be given up first round, a ton of first round 783 00:41:36,560 --> 00:41:39,200 Speaker 1: picks for Russell Wilson right now. I already have a 784 00:41:39,200 --> 00:41:42,600 Speaker 1: first round pick. You know in that scenario it's Mac Jones. Wait? 785 00:41:42,640 --> 00:41:45,680 Speaker 1: Did I hear that right? Did you just say, wait, 786 00:41:45,680 --> 00:41:48,000 Speaker 1: why did the I just saw the Vikings signed a 787 00:41:48,080 --> 00:41:53,239 Speaker 1: quarterback Kirk is not vaccinated? Interesting, I'll be tracking that. Um. 788 00:41:53,360 --> 00:41:55,240 Speaker 1: Did you just say you would have trade Mac Jones 789 00:41:55,280 --> 00:41:58,719 Speaker 1: for Russell Wilson from Mac Jones? Yeah, I mean I 790 00:41:58,760 --> 00:42:01,719 Speaker 1: would say that about about fifteen guys in the league 791 00:42:01,800 --> 00:42:07,160 Speaker 1: right now, especially guys that tracks what about justin fields 792 00:42:07,160 --> 00:42:14,040 Speaker 1: where Chicago was a target. Wait a second, I don't 793 00:42:14,120 --> 00:42:16,640 Speaker 1: understand how Mac Jones I mean, Matt Jones to me 794 00:42:16,680 --> 00:42:18,919 Speaker 1: would would be moved in a second for Russell Wilson. 795 00:42:19,000 --> 00:42:23,520 Speaker 1: But you're very low on him. I am. I don't know, 796 00:42:23,640 --> 00:42:26,600 Speaker 1: Like Russell Wilson's good, Like he's definitely a mid level 797 00:42:26,640 --> 00:42:29,160 Speaker 1: starting quarterback at this point, but that's all he's been 798 00:42:29,280 --> 00:42:32,200 Speaker 1: for for a year and a half now, And uh, 799 00:42:32,239 --> 00:42:35,080 Speaker 1: I'd rather have like a rookie with a little higher ceiling. 800 00:42:35,120 --> 00:42:38,239 Speaker 1: That's that that young Hey hey, Ricky, where do you you? 801 00:42:40,520 --> 00:42:43,239 Speaker 1: I mean? And I'm not that high on Mac Jones. 802 00:42:43,280 --> 00:42:45,120 Speaker 1: I think mac Jones is going to be, like, you know, 803 00:42:45,160 --> 00:42:47,000 Speaker 1: the tenth best quarterback in the league. But I kind 804 00:42:47,000 --> 00:42:51,440 Speaker 1: of rather that rookie contract than giving giving like like 805 00:42:51,440 --> 00:42:53,200 Speaker 1: who has had a better year this year? Mac Jones 806 00:42:53,239 --> 00:42:56,560 Speaker 1: and Russell Wilson. It's it is environment, Like there is 807 00:42:56,600 --> 00:43:01,400 Speaker 1: an environment to Russell. I just so Wilson has like 808 00:43:01,480 --> 00:43:05,040 Speaker 1: Tyler Locket, He's got DK Metcalf and like they's solid. 809 00:43:05,239 --> 00:43:07,040 Speaker 1: I'm not I'm not saying he couldn't have like a 810 00:43:07,080 --> 00:43:11,120 Speaker 1: great second, you know, career elsewhere. It definitely could happen, 811 00:43:11,440 --> 00:43:13,600 Speaker 1: but it also might not, Like he might just be 812 00:43:13,719 --> 00:43:17,120 Speaker 1: fine somewhere. I have a sneaking suspicion this take is 813 00:43:17,120 --> 00:43:19,759 Speaker 1: going to age very poorly, Greg, But hey, you might 814 00:43:19,760 --> 00:43:22,080 Speaker 1: be right. No, he's gonna be dancing on TikTok with 815 00:43:22,080 --> 00:43:25,200 Speaker 1: Sierra in the next couple of years. First for an income. Oh, 816 00:43:25,239 --> 00:43:27,799 Speaker 1: he is such a future dancing with the Stars guy. 817 00:43:27,960 --> 00:43:30,120 Speaker 1: Maybe he's already done it. I don't know. All right, 818 00:43:30,200 --> 00:43:31,960 Speaker 1: let's take a break and we'll go one more time 819 00:43:32,000 --> 00:43:38,400 Speaker 1: around with someones mysteries. Welcome back, Mark one more. Alright, 820 00:43:38,400 --> 00:43:42,480 Speaker 1: I'm looking at my list here. Will men's fashion ever improved? 821 00:43:42,760 --> 00:43:49,640 Speaker 1: Not that one? Let's go here mystery? Oh, I think 822 00:43:49,640 --> 00:43:52,719 Speaker 1: it's Absurdain, go ahead, We've got some work to do 823 00:43:52,719 --> 00:43:56,600 Speaker 1: on that front. Um. Does Lamar Jackson have a great 824 00:43:56,640 --> 00:43:59,040 Speaker 1: game left in him in this season? And does it 825 00:43:59,120 --> 00:44:04,279 Speaker 1: even matter? Mm hmm. I'm trying to remember the great 826 00:44:04,280 --> 00:44:06,120 Speaker 1: game he's had this year. First of all, I mean 827 00:44:06,160 --> 00:44:08,200 Speaker 1: it's it happened a long time ago. It's like week 828 00:44:08,280 --> 00:44:11,920 Speaker 1: five or so, week seven, the Minnesota second half that 829 00:44:12,000 --> 00:44:14,120 Speaker 1: was probably Week seven. I mean, that's it's a long 830 00:44:14,160 --> 00:44:18,120 Speaker 1: time ago. I'm gonna say it matters for sure, um, 831 00:44:18,239 --> 00:44:20,640 Speaker 1: because I think they'd be dangerous if they could somehow 832 00:44:20,719 --> 00:44:23,600 Speaker 1: win these games. And they are playing the rams of 833 00:44:23,719 --> 00:44:26,920 Speaker 1: matters for them too. I want to believe it, So 834 00:44:27,120 --> 00:44:31,160 Speaker 1: I'm gonna say say yes there. Their offense hasn't been 835 00:44:31,160 --> 00:44:34,200 Speaker 1: the problem since Lamar left, Like their offense was fine 836 00:44:34,200 --> 00:44:39,120 Speaker 1: against Cincinnati. If he can get back in there, good weapons, 837 00:44:40,600 --> 00:44:43,000 Speaker 1: I'm not ready to totally give up on them yet 838 00:44:43,120 --> 00:44:47,560 Speaker 1: because of that one week. This is a big This 839 00:44:47,640 --> 00:44:49,920 Speaker 1: is a big couple of weeks here for the Lamar 840 00:44:49,960 --> 00:44:54,680 Speaker 1: heads out there. The Lamar Army is strong. Uh. There 841 00:44:54,719 --> 00:44:59,440 Speaker 1: has always been a fierce level of defense for Jackson 842 00:45:00,160 --> 00:45:04,319 Speaker 1: whenever the team struggles. Uh, it's it's very rarely put 843 00:45:04,320 --> 00:45:08,120 Speaker 1: on his shoulders. And yet I think we've reached the 844 00:45:08,200 --> 00:45:12,879 Speaker 1: stage now where even the Lamar Army needs to hang 845 00:45:13,000 --> 00:45:16,080 Speaker 1: some of the ravens downfall on the quarterback if they 846 00:45:16,200 --> 00:45:18,560 Speaker 1: if they continue this path. And I understand again this 847 00:45:18,640 --> 00:45:22,960 Speaker 1: is a strange season, uh, and they've been absolutely gutted 848 00:45:22,960 --> 00:45:26,000 Speaker 1: by injuries. But wouldn't you doesn't it is it asking 849 00:45:26,040 --> 00:45:28,520 Speaker 1: too much for Lamar if he gets back from this 850 00:45:28,560 --> 00:45:31,440 Speaker 1: ankle injury to put together two great games to close 851 00:45:31,480 --> 00:45:34,640 Speaker 1: the season and be the superstar that they need him 852 00:45:34,640 --> 00:45:36,520 Speaker 1: to be and perhaps carry them to the a f 853 00:45:36,600 --> 00:45:39,319 Speaker 1: C North title. Um, I don't think so. If he's 854 00:45:39,360 --> 00:45:41,120 Speaker 1: as good as everyone says and he's got an m 855 00:45:41,160 --> 00:45:46,080 Speaker 1: v P Trophy, he's like Kyler Murray, like Mike Baker Mayfield, 856 00:45:46,080 --> 00:45:48,760 Speaker 1: like these guys, but Baker's obviously in a different category. 857 00:45:48,800 --> 00:45:50,879 Speaker 1: What I mean is these guys that are the lynch 858 00:45:50,920 --> 00:45:52,880 Speaker 1: pins of the franchise. You need them to do what 859 00:45:52,960 --> 00:45:55,879 Speaker 1: Josh Allen did on on Sunday in Foxborough and put 860 00:45:55,880 --> 00:45:59,000 Speaker 1: a team on your back. Can he do it? It's 861 00:45:59,000 --> 00:46:02,080 Speaker 1: a big test. I see why a lot of stuff 862 00:46:02,080 --> 00:46:05,839 Speaker 1: slips off Jackson's back in terms of critique because he'll 863 00:46:05,880 --> 00:46:08,080 Speaker 1: make the same mistakes that a that a Baker someone 864 00:46:08,120 --> 00:46:10,480 Speaker 1: else will make. But Baker doesn't have that special component 865 00:46:10,520 --> 00:46:12,800 Speaker 1: to his game that even if we haven't seen a 866 00:46:12,840 --> 00:46:14,680 Speaker 1: lot of that from Lamar Jackson, with the way they've 867 00:46:14,680 --> 00:46:16,840 Speaker 1: been defended, you know it's there. You know he can 868 00:46:16,920 --> 00:46:19,359 Speaker 1: do it, and so I think Greg's optimism. You're kind 869 00:46:19,360 --> 00:46:21,600 Speaker 1: of just rooting for it to happen. That's where I 870 00:46:21,640 --> 00:46:24,880 Speaker 1: think Jackson supporters and loyalists are kind of stuck right 871 00:46:24,880 --> 00:46:28,160 Speaker 1: now because it's not inevitable where it felt inevitable with 872 00:46:28,239 --> 00:46:31,920 Speaker 1: him a year ago or two. Well, I thought inevitable 873 00:46:32,280 --> 00:46:34,279 Speaker 1: eight weeks ago. He was on a lot of mid 874 00:46:34,320 --> 00:46:37,560 Speaker 1: season m v P rankings as maybe the favorite. So 875 00:46:37,600 --> 00:46:40,359 Speaker 1: he's had a bizarre season where he played as well 876 00:46:40,520 --> 00:46:44,400 Speaker 1: or better than he's ever played, uh in a different style, 877 00:46:44,680 --> 00:46:47,880 Speaker 1: and then it was a disaster. He played so poorly 878 00:46:47,960 --> 00:46:50,880 Speaker 1: after that and then got hurt. So it's been a 879 00:46:51,120 --> 00:46:55,120 Speaker 1: very like a very strange season. The thing is he 880 00:46:55,160 --> 00:46:59,560 Speaker 1: could play really well, and their defense is twenty nine 881 00:46:59,600 --> 00:47:02,239 Speaker 1: in the you away, so he's gonna need he's gonna 882 00:47:02,280 --> 00:47:05,279 Speaker 1: need them to play better. Like Josh Johnson played great 883 00:47:05,360 --> 00:47:07,839 Speaker 1: last week. Josh Johnson has not only been better than 884 00:47:07,880 --> 00:47:10,759 Speaker 1: all these emergency quarterbacks that have been called upon, but 885 00:47:10,840 --> 00:47:14,840 Speaker 1: better than most backup quarterbacks. Like you scored touchdowns in 886 00:47:14,880 --> 00:47:16,960 Speaker 1: three of his seven drives before it was like garbage 887 00:47:16,960 --> 00:47:19,799 Speaker 1: time and like, and that defense has totally fallen apart. 888 00:47:19,800 --> 00:47:21,359 Speaker 1: They didn't get some COVID guys, But you know you're 889 00:47:21,360 --> 00:47:23,640 Speaker 1: gonna win a shootout with the Rams, that's what's gonna 890 00:47:23,680 --> 00:47:27,440 Speaker 1: have to have. Well, Yeah, it's I'm not saying I'm 891 00:47:27,440 --> 00:47:31,279 Speaker 1: not saying it's impossible. It just doesn't I think he 892 00:47:31,320 --> 00:47:32,960 Speaker 1: was gonna miss a week and he's missed three. They 893 00:47:33,000 --> 00:47:38,080 Speaker 1: clearly us here. But I think that it's unfair to 894 00:47:38,200 --> 00:47:40,960 Speaker 1: say that it's on Lamar to get the Ravens to 895 00:47:41,000 --> 00:47:43,319 Speaker 1: the super Bowl. I think too much has happened to 896 00:47:43,360 --> 00:47:46,240 Speaker 1: Baltimore to see them as a credible super Bowl contender. 897 00:47:46,239 --> 00:47:50,080 Speaker 1: I guess all I'm really saying is from an individual standpoint, UH, 898 00:47:50,360 --> 00:47:53,080 Speaker 1: do something special these last two weeks. I don't know. 899 00:47:53,160 --> 00:47:55,319 Speaker 1: The ankle things a real thing, So it might be 900 00:47:55,440 --> 00:47:58,120 Speaker 1: like what we're seeing with Kyla not Kyler Murray, with 901 00:47:58,239 --> 00:48:00,839 Speaker 1: Jalen Hurts. The last couple weeks. He came back from 902 00:48:00,880 --> 00:48:03,319 Speaker 1: an ankle injury and hasn't run the football like does 903 00:48:03,440 --> 00:48:06,080 Speaker 1: Lamar lose that element of his game even when he returns. 904 00:48:06,760 --> 00:48:09,960 Speaker 1: This might just be a broken Baltimore season. But I 905 00:48:09,960 --> 00:48:12,479 Speaker 1: would like to see Lamar finish on a high note, because, yeah, 906 00:48:12,480 --> 00:48:15,200 Speaker 1: he even this year he was playing at that elite 907 00:48:15,280 --> 00:48:17,440 Speaker 1: level and that all just kind of slipped away in 908 00:48:17,480 --> 00:48:22,160 Speaker 1: the second half. Alright, I'm gonna move away from quarterback talk. 909 00:48:22,200 --> 00:48:24,040 Speaker 1: I did have another I had a couple of quarterback ones, 910 00:48:24,040 --> 00:48:25,520 Speaker 1: but we've done a lot of quarterback ones. So let 911 00:48:25,520 --> 00:48:37,440 Speaker 1: me just let's head to the broadcast booth. M I 912 00:48:37,480 --> 00:48:40,560 Speaker 1: think even the greatest, the biggest of the Romo heads 913 00:48:40,560 --> 00:48:43,960 Speaker 1: out there, and I think Greg you are you were 914 00:48:44,080 --> 00:48:46,480 Speaker 1: right up the top of that list. We'll say that 915 00:48:46,600 --> 00:48:48,920 Speaker 1: Tony's maybe taking a step back since he signed a 916 00:48:48,960 --> 00:48:53,400 Speaker 1: big contract, maybe not as invested, maybe not doing the 917 00:48:53,440 --> 00:48:57,040 Speaker 1: work at the same level. Still a nice, a really 918 00:48:57,120 --> 00:48:59,919 Speaker 1: good presence. You feel like you're watching a big game 919 00:49:00,000 --> 00:49:03,520 Speaker 1: when Tony's there with nance, but maybe he's not that 920 00:49:04,000 --> 00:49:06,719 Speaker 1: he's not like hitting home runs every Sunday like he 921 00:49:06,840 --> 00:49:11,040 Speaker 1: used to. Is this the Is this the playoffs where 922 00:49:11,480 --> 00:49:15,480 Speaker 1: Romo going through the motions gets surpassed, but in the 923 00:49:15,680 --> 00:49:18,960 Speaker 1: by the people that track these things? By Greg Ols, 924 00:49:19,600 --> 00:49:25,240 Speaker 1: with Kevin Burkhart, the new darling of social media every Sunday, 925 00:49:25,480 --> 00:49:32,000 Speaker 1: the football Gagnane, it's all fired up about Greg Olson. 926 00:49:32,800 --> 00:49:35,640 Speaker 1: Is that going to be a story that Andrew Marshant 927 00:49:35,680 --> 00:49:38,160 Speaker 1: to The New York Post will be writing about come 928 00:49:38,239 --> 00:49:43,160 Speaker 1: late January? Don't we think that it's It's happened a 929 00:49:43,160 --> 00:49:45,879 Speaker 1: little bit to some degree, I mean, not officially but 930 00:49:46,520 --> 00:49:50,560 Speaker 1: the Olsen love is um, the outpouring is uh. Well, 931 00:49:50,600 --> 00:49:54,520 Speaker 1: he's the new cover of Team Beat, like uh for football, 932 00:49:54,760 --> 00:49:57,040 Speaker 1: the Twitter verse like everybody loves all. He's got these 933 00:49:57,040 --> 00:50:02,160 Speaker 1: two Island Saturday primetime games, which I on, you know, instructive, 934 00:50:02,200 --> 00:50:04,440 Speaker 1: not only because everyone realized how great Grey Olson is, 935 00:50:04,480 --> 00:50:07,879 Speaker 1: but I believe Troy Aikman's in a contract situation right now. 936 00:50:09,200 --> 00:50:11,799 Speaker 1: You think they put that little Olson on the Saturday 937 00:50:11,880 --> 00:50:16,480 Speaker 1: nights big audiences, you better come to the bargaining table, Troy, 938 00:50:16,600 --> 00:50:19,160 Speaker 1: or else we'll see at Amazon. I have no idea 939 00:50:19,200 --> 00:50:23,080 Speaker 1: what's happening. I think with Romo one thing, you're you're 940 00:50:23,120 --> 00:50:27,480 Speaker 1: another year removed from having been inside team walls, inside 941 00:50:27,480 --> 00:50:29,319 Speaker 1: a team, and you have to start to attack a 942 00:50:29,320 --> 00:50:32,439 Speaker 1: little bit differently. Um, maybe it's just uh. I thought 943 00:50:32,440 --> 00:50:34,399 Speaker 1: that the game he was on, the Chief Steelers game 944 00:50:34,440 --> 00:50:36,719 Speaker 1: was a tough drawl because it was over within like 945 00:50:36,719 --> 00:50:39,040 Speaker 1: twelve minutes, and you're going to like be and c material. 946 00:50:39,120 --> 00:50:42,640 Speaker 1: But that was by far I thought his least impressive 947 00:50:44,160 --> 00:50:45,680 Speaker 1: well because I don't think he has a lot of 948 00:50:45,760 --> 00:50:48,040 Speaker 1: least impressive ones, but I mean, if you go listen 949 00:50:48,040 --> 00:50:50,279 Speaker 1: to that, he just seemed a little detached to me 950 00:50:50,320 --> 00:50:51,759 Speaker 1: and out of it. I'm not trying to critique Hi 951 00:50:51,760 --> 00:50:54,560 Speaker 1: because I think he's awesome. He's clearly really really good. 952 00:50:54,760 --> 00:50:56,480 Speaker 1: Like that was a game pass game for me, so 953 00:50:56,560 --> 00:50:58,880 Speaker 1: I didn't I didn't get the Romo experience. But I 954 00:50:59,440 --> 00:51:01,759 Speaker 1: am with you, Mark, I've seen games this year that 955 00:51:01,800 --> 00:51:05,239 Speaker 1: weren't They've had some dogs in general, and more than 956 00:51:05,239 --> 00:51:08,600 Speaker 1: any announcer, he seems to totally lose lose investment if 957 00:51:08,600 --> 00:51:11,040 Speaker 1: the game is not close, like he was like a child. 958 00:51:11,760 --> 00:51:13,640 Speaker 1: He has like a child, where like he's so into 959 00:51:13,640 --> 00:51:15,719 Speaker 1: it if it's closed, but what it's not. It's like 960 00:51:15,840 --> 00:51:19,239 Speaker 1: he seems to lose. Can't you can't you imagine Jim 961 00:51:19,320 --> 00:51:22,320 Speaker 1: Nance during a commercial break when Romo's interest in the 962 00:51:22,360 --> 00:51:25,480 Speaker 1: game is waning, just pulling the stern Dad routine and 963 00:51:25,480 --> 00:51:30,040 Speaker 1: he's like, Okay, Tony, let's go, Tony, let's go. I 964 00:51:30,040 --> 00:51:34,400 Speaker 1: feel like that feed where you can watch talking to 965 00:51:34,440 --> 00:51:36,480 Speaker 1: each other and they seem to jenuine we like, like 966 00:51:36,560 --> 00:51:38,680 Speaker 1: jenuinely love each other. Man, they really love each other, 967 00:51:38,719 --> 00:51:40,840 Speaker 1: I think. But I think I feel like Nance is 968 00:51:40,880 --> 00:51:43,479 Speaker 1: still trying to impress Romo and be like the cool kid. 969 00:51:43,800 --> 00:51:46,520 Speaker 1: Like he makes a little sarcastic jokes that Romo makes, 970 00:51:46,560 --> 00:51:49,120 Speaker 1: so I don't know if he's he's coming too tough 971 00:51:49,160 --> 00:51:51,520 Speaker 1: on last time we had a Marshaw on the show, 972 00:51:52,239 --> 00:51:56,080 Speaker 1: he had like a dicey internet connection, which was disappointing. 973 00:51:56,120 --> 00:51:58,120 Speaker 1: But now he's got his own podcast. He does a 974 00:51:58,200 --> 00:52:00,799 Speaker 1: media podcast, so you know he's got the dye and 975 00:52:00,880 --> 00:52:03,800 Speaker 1: you know he's got the rock solid, plugged in internet 976 00:52:03,800 --> 00:52:06,359 Speaker 1: set up. So Ricky, we want to put that put 977 00:52:06,360 --> 00:52:08,560 Speaker 1: a pin in this uh, and we're gonna want to 978 00:52:08,680 --> 00:52:13,400 Speaker 1: have some good old fashioned NFL media play by play 979 00:52:13,440 --> 00:52:16,960 Speaker 1: booth talk when things quiet down in the NFL season, 980 00:52:18,080 --> 00:52:20,759 Speaker 1: Little Little they should get a wild card game and 981 00:52:20,840 --> 00:52:22,480 Speaker 1: a divisional round. I don't know if they get a 982 00:52:22,560 --> 00:52:25,719 Speaker 1: division but they should at least get a wild card game. 983 00:52:26,239 --> 00:52:30,880 Speaker 1: The shout out to Andrew mars Shawn's brother, regular listener 984 00:52:31,120 --> 00:52:35,480 Speaker 1: to the show, Marshawn Family Affair. All Right, I'm I'm 985 00:52:35,560 --> 00:52:37,799 Speaker 1: rambling now, I'm Tony. I'm Tony Romo in the second 986 00:52:37,880 --> 00:52:42,120 Speaker 1: quarter of a Steelers game in December, um one more. 987 00:52:42,920 --> 00:52:47,640 Speaker 1: He was so disappointed my final unsolved mystery the show. 988 00:52:47,680 --> 00:52:50,879 Speaker 1: He's never seen. This is what's going on in Jacksonville, 989 00:52:51,480 --> 00:53:01,239 Speaker 1: Oh authorities have reported that despite being a big part 990 00:53:01,320 --> 00:53:06,120 Speaker 1: of an organization that has won three games combined over 991 00:53:06,160 --> 00:53:10,480 Speaker 1: the last two years, that's one less than Joe Judge one. 992 00:53:10,520 --> 00:53:17,360 Speaker 1: This year, ouch, Trent Balky was given the Keith to 993 00:53:17,400 --> 00:53:24,600 Speaker 1: the Kingdom. Trent Balky, who seems to be great at 994 00:53:24,640 --> 00:53:37,719 Speaker 1: one thing, managing up people, surviving changes. Why is Trent 995 00:53:37,840 --> 00:53:41,840 Speaker 1: Balky running a coaching search in the year that is 996 00:53:41,880 --> 00:53:44,680 Speaker 1: my unself mystery that that's a great one. And and 997 00:53:44,800 --> 00:53:47,280 Speaker 1: tying together the theme of the show and another prime 998 00:53:47,320 --> 00:53:51,160 Speaker 1: time program from the late eighties early nineties. Um, I'd 999 00:53:51,239 --> 00:53:55,560 Speaker 1: rather have Balky Bartakamus from Perfect Strangers running my team 1000 00:53:55,640 --> 00:53:59,799 Speaker 1: than Trent Balky, because yeah, I'm with you, but I 1001 00:53:59,800 --> 00:54:05,000 Speaker 1: don't know if the Russian post super plugged into the task, right, 1002 00:54:05,000 --> 00:54:06,720 Speaker 1: I don't know, you know, Like, just for some background, 1003 00:54:06,760 --> 00:54:09,759 Speaker 1: Trent Backy was a forty Niners guy back in the day, 1004 00:54:10,120 --> 00:54:13,600 Speaker 1: kind of pushed out a few forty Niners coaches too, 1005 00:54:13,680 --> 00:54:16,239 Speaker 1: and always managed to survive. That wasn't you know? Him 1006 00:54:16,239 --> 00:54:20,680 Speaker 1: and Jim Harbaugh eventually we're at odds. Uh survived that. Uh. 1007 00:54:20,719 --> 00:54:23,440 Speaker 1: And here in Jacksonville, where he was a key figure 1008 00:54:23,560 --> 00:54:27,960 Speaker 1: in convincing urban Meyer to promote him and supposedly was 1009 00:54:28,040 --> 00:54:32,000 Speaker 1: integral in the hiring of this offensive line coach. By 1010 00:54:32,000 --> 00:54:36,040 Speaker 1: the way that urban Meyer. Uh, eventually you know, took 1011 00:54:36,040 --> 00:54:39,239 Speaker 1: all the flak four has convinced owner shot Con that 1012 00:54:39,320 --> 00:54:40,920 Speaker 1: he is the man to run this team and he 1013 00:54:40,960 --> 00:54:43,680 Speaker 1: has more power than ever. And the more we learned 1014 00:54:43,680 --> 00:54:47,200 Speaker 1: about urban Meyer, it almost feels like urban Meyer was 1015 00:54:47,239 --> 00:54:50,040 Speaker 1: so out to lunch that much of this team was 1016 00:54:50,120 --> 00:54:53,480 Speaker 1: run by Trent Balki the whole time. And Uh, I 1017 00:54:53,560 --> 00:54:57,400 Speaker 1: hate the setup where coaches are inheriting the GM or 1018 00:54:57,520 --> 00:54:59,920 Speaker 1: the GM is inheriting the coach. It's a big pet 1019 00:55:00,040 --> 00:55:02,640 Speaker 1: peeve of mine. I feel like that's the number one 1020 00:55:02,719 --> 00:55:06,480 Speaker 1: ownership test. If you fail that test, yeah you're bad. 1021 00:55:06,520 --> 00:55:09,280 Speaker 1: I know there's exceptions. Siciliano brought it up the less 1022 00:55:09,320 --> 00:55:12,040 Speaker 1: need Sean mcbaywan. I don't need to hear the exceptions. 1023 00:55:12,040 --> 00:55:14,239 Speaker 1: There's a million other times they need to be a line. 1024 00:55:14,280 --> 00:55:15,920 Speaker 1: You need to hire them together. I don't. I don't 1025 00:55:16,000 --> 00:55:17,480 Speaker 1: like this set up, and I don't like it when 1026 00:55:17,520 --> 00:55:19,799 Speaker 1: everyone around that team doesn't like it either. So you're 1027 00:55:19,840 --> 00:55:21,720 Speaker 1: looking at you're looking at two people that have followed 1028 00:55:21,760 --> 00:55:23,840 Speaker 1: teams that have done that that for a thousand years. 1029 00:55:23,880 --> 00:55:26,680 Speaker 1: I also think that you know, if you're Trent BALKI, 1030 00:55:27,000 --> 00:55:29,680 Speaker 1: are there certain candidates out there who feel a certain 1031 00:55:29,719 --> 00:55:33,520 Speaker 1: way about him saying I don't want that job because 1032 00:55:33,760 --> 00:55:35,560 Speaker 1: I want this other job. If you're up for a couple, 1033 00:55:35,600 --> 00:55:38,839 Speaker 1: for instance, like the Jacksonville has attractive Trevor Lawrence makes 1034 00:55:38,840 --> 00:55:41,719 Speaker 1: it attractive in theory, but you don't like the GM, 1035 00:55:41,760 --> 00:55:45,080 Speaker 1: you don't go there. It's should and the ownership situation. 1036 00:55:45,320 --> 00:55:46,960 Speaker 1: I think Sean kan has been a really good owner 1037 00:55:47,120 --> 00:55:50,479 Speaker 1: in terms of being a consistent, good businessman, but he's 1038 00:55:50,520 --> 00:55:53,160 Speaker 1: at the point now where he shouldn't be falling for 1039 00:55:53,239 --> 00:55:58,640 Speaker 1: this dog and pony show. See if you had Balky 1040 00:55:58,719 --> 00:56:01,680 Speaker 1: Bartkamas making the decision, you say, oh, should you mismatch 1041 00:56:01,760 --> 00:56:04,600 Speaker 1: coach and GM, he'd go, well, of course not Larry 1042 00:56:07,400 --> 00:56:09,880 Speaker 1: get out of the city. He not to have like 1043 00:56:09,880 --> 00:56:12,239 Speaker 1: a nice laugh track attached to like whenever he does 1044 00:56:12,280 --> 00:56:15,280 Speaker 1: a press comment. I watched I watched some Perfect Strangers 1045 00:56:15,320 --> 00:56:17,520 Speaker 1: back in the day. I even can remember that guy's name, 1046 00:56:17,560 --> 00:56:21,440 Speaker 1: Bronson Pinchote very good like that quickly What was the 1047 00:56:21,480 --> 00:56:25,600 Speaker 1: fictional country of fictional area that he was from? Mark Sessler, 1048 00:56:26,680 --> 00:56:32,680 Speaker 1: uh Rosa Slavia Posh the Jaguars. By the way, I've 1049 00:56:32,719 --> 00:56:37,640 Speaker 1: asked permission to interview Byron Leftwich, Todd Bowles, Dan Quinn, 1050 00:56:38,360 --> 00:56:43,840 Speaker 1: Doug Peterson, Kellen Moore, and Colts defensive coordinator Matt Eberflus. 1051 00:56:44,160 --> 00:56:45,920 Speaker 1: Just a little bit of new Did they hired Doug Peterson? 1052 00:56:45,960 --> 00:56:50,520 Speaker 1: Did they get Frank right? Also they get that statue 1053 00:56:50,600 --> 00:56:55,680 Speaker 1: of it's such an important hire. They have this generational 1054 00:56:55,760 --> 00:56:59,359 Speaker 1: quarterback who has been put through hell. You can't mess 1055 00:56:59,400 --> 00:57:02,239 Speaker 1: it up? And God do you trust them? I mean, 1056 00:57:02,239 --> 00:57:04,319 Speaker 1: I like, you know what I think they're going. I 1057 00:57:04,320 --> 00:57:06,760 Speaker 1: think that they're heading towards like a Gym Caldwell Higher 1058 00:57:06,800 --> 00:57:10,240 Speaker 1: because it's like, you know, you had a super chaotic 1059 00:57:10,480 --> 00:57:14,720 Speaker 1: significant other, girlfriend, boyfriend, and your next person is someone 1060 00:57:14,760 --> 00:57:17,720 Speaker 1: that is different, and like they're gonna go super boring 1061 00:57:17,760 --> 00:57:21,120 Speaker 1: because they had a high drama, high problematic coach that 1062 00:57:21,160 --> 00:57:24,080 Speaker 1: nearly drugged the organization into the sea right. One of 1063 00:57:24,120 --> 00:57:25,960 Speaker 1: the reasons I hate the setup and I know will 1064 00:57:26,040 --> 00:57:29,480 Speaker 1: end it tune is gms like Balky to me are 1065 00:57:29,560 --> 00:57:32,800 Speaker 1: gonna one of their primary concerns is hiring a coach 1066 00:57:33,400 --> 00:57:36,200 Speaker 1: that he's going to have power over and control over, 1067 00:57:36,280 --> 00:57:38,280 Speaker 1: and that's like not what you want to be the 1068 00:57:38,320 --> 00:57:42,080 Speaker 1: priority and hiring your coach. That's true, that's fair. Alright. 1069 00:57:42,160 --> 00:57:45,479 Speaker 1: That ends another episode of Unsolved Mysteries on the Around 1070 00:57:45,480 --> 00:57:49,600 Speaker 1: the NFL podcast. You will hear from us next on Thursday. 1071 00:57:49,880 --> 00:57:52,200 Speaker 1: We have no Thursday night football, so we have a 1072 00:57:52,240 --> 00:57:54,800 Speaker 1: full slated games. We have Saturday games this week, as 1073 00:57:54,800 --> 00:57:57,360 Speaker 1: I understand, or at least one game. No, no, it's 1074 00:57:57,400 --> 00:57:59,720 Speaker 1: also so I think it was because of the bowls. 1075 00:58:00,080 --> 00:58:03,600 Speaker 1: Is in the college football playoffs, they took this Saturday off. 1076 00:58:04,080 --> 00:58:07,680 Speaker 1: We are running free waun till Sunday. Baby. Is there 1077 00:58:07,720 --> 00:58:10,960 Speaker 1: a Monday night game? There is a Monday night Cleveland Pittsburgh. 1078 00:58:11,440 --> 00:58:13,600 Speaker 1: All right, that's the last Monday night game. Okay, so 1079 00:58:14,240 --> 00:58:17,480 Speaker 1: Arrow in the head, please a full Sunday slate. We're 1080 00:58:17,480 --> 00:58:20,480 Speaker 1: gonna really need our buddy Nick Shook for the flagship 1081 00:58:20,560 --> 00:58:23,720 Speaker 1: show and he will be there for us. UM. All right, 1082 00:58:23,800 --> 00:58:27,640 Speaker 1: thank you everybody for listening. What will we hear when's 1083 00:58:27,680 --> 00:58:29,680 Speaker 1: New Year's Eve? That's Friday, okay, so it won't be 1084 00:58:31,080 --> 00:58:33,439 Speaker 1: um by the time you hear from us next, So 1085 00:58:34,200 --> 00:58:35,960 Speaker 1: forget that. I was gonna say Happy New Year, but 1086 00:58:36,200 --> 00:58:39,440 Speaker 1: it's not time, so you don't get it yet. Yeah, 1087 00:58:39,760 --> 00:58:41,440 Speaker 1: all right, that's it. Dan has a signing off for 1088 00:58:41,520 --> 00:58:45,640 Speaker 1: Quiet Storm. Uh the old boss Ricky Hollywood until Thursday. 1089 00:58:45,880 --> 00:59:03,200 Speaker 1: Heed the call se