1 00:00:01,560 --> 00:00:04,840 Speaker 1: From the Berkshars to the sound from wherever you live 2 00:00:04,840 --> 00:00:09,080 Speaker 1: in MLB America. This is inside the Parker. You give 3 00:00:09,160 --> 00:00:11,440 Speaker 1: us twenty two minutes and we'll give you the scoop 4 00:00:11,480 --> 00:00:15,160 Speaker 1: on Major League Baseball. Now. Here's Baseball Hall of Fame 5 00:00:15,240 --> 00:00:21,720 Speaker 1: voter number eighty three, Rob Parker. Welcome into the podcast. 6 00:00:21,800 --> 00:00:24,880 Speaker 1: I'm your host, Rob Parker. Great show for you. On tap. 7 00:00:25,480 --> 00:00:28,560 Speaker 1: Bobby Nightingale, who is the beat writer for the Cincinnati 8 00:00:28,600 --> 00:00:32,919 Speaker 1: Inquiry covers the Reds. He'll join us, plus David Grubb, 9 00:00:33,440 --> 00:00:37,440 Speaker 1: who's a writer and editor from MLB bro dot Com. 10 00:00:37,600 --> 00:00:43,199 Speaker 1: He'll talk to us about the Jackie Robinson anniversary, that 11 00:00:43,640 --> 00:00:49,600 Speaker 1: and much more. Let's go beat up. To lead off, 12 00:00:49,680 --> 00:00:52,680 Speaker 1: it's getting robbed and to keep him on. Rob's hot 13 00:00:52,720 --> 00:00:55,840 Speaker 1: take on the three biggest stories in Major League Baseball. 14 00:00:57,240 --> 00:01:01,120 Speaker 1: Number one, Say it isn't so. I mean, I did 15 00:01:01,120 --> 00:01:03,560 Speaker 1: not believe we would be here, but here we are. 16 00:01:04,400 --> 00:01:08,120 Speaker 1: We've already had the first week of games canceled. The 17 00:01:08,240 --> 00:01:12,240 Speaker 1: c BA has not been a deal has not been 18 00:01:12,280 --> 00:01:16,080 Speaker 1: done in time to start the regular season on time 19 00:01:16,120 --> 00:01:20,040 Speaker 1: and opening day at the end of March. Instead, we're 20 00:01:20,080 --> 00:01:24,440 Speaker 1: looking at now moving it into April. Who knows um, 21 00:01:24,520 --> 00:01:26,759 Speaker 1: I really believe that the players and owners were gonna 22 00:01:26,800 --> 00:01:30,920 Speaker 1: get together on something. Obviously both sides feel like they 23 00:01:31,000 --> 00:01:33,640 Speaker 1: wanted to gain something in this. Nobody felt like they 24 00:01:33,680 --> 00:01:37,200 Speaker 1: wanted to lose. But as usual, it is always the fans. 25 00:01:37,640 --> 00:01:41,280 Speaker 1: The fans love this game. Seventy million people buy tickets 26 00:01:42,040 --> 00:01:47,520 Speaker 1: every single year for Major League Baseball. That's more tickets 27 00:01:47,520 --> 00:01:56,080 Speaker 1: sold in the NBA, NFL, NHL, and mL LST combined combined. Yes, 28 00:01:56,240 --> 00:01:58,520 Speaker 1: I know there's more baseball games, but if you add 29 00:01:58,600 --> 00:02:02,400 Speaker 1: up all those leagues and all those games, baseball sells 30 00:02:02,440 --> 00:02:08,400 Speaker 1: more tickets. So the fans, again the collateral damage in this. 31 00:02:10,080 --> 00:02:13,160 Speaker 1: Hopefully the players and owners can get together and not 32 00:02:13,320 --> 00:02:17,920 Speaker 1: make this a drag out too long. And on Wednesday, 33 00:02:17,919 --> 00:02:22,520 Speaker 1: the Commissioner sent out the letter for all fans, you know, 34 00:02:23,080 --> 00:02:27,840 Speaker 1: talking about where labor negotiations are and whatnot, and fans 35 00:02:27,919 --> 00:02:29,560 Speaker 1: don't care and don't want to hear about it. The 36 00:02:29,600 --> 00:02:34,320 Speaker 1: only thing they care about is they want their game back. 37 00:02:34,919 --> 00:02:41,400 Speaker 1: Mr Commissioner number two. Enough already with the death of baseball, 38 00:02:41,520 --> 00:02:46,480 Speaker 1: and enough already with these phony national talk show host 39 00:02:46,560 --> 00:02:52,160 Speaker 1: on TV and radio always ripping baseball every chance they get. Oh, 40 00:02:52,200 --> 00:02:56,720 Speaker 1: I'll never and we're talking about baseball again. I'll never 41 00:02:56,840 --> 00:03:01,320 Speaker 1: watch another game, I'll never go to another baseball game. 42 00:03:01,560 --> 00:03:07,760 Speaker 1: You've been saying this since nine after the strike, and 43 00:03:07,960 --> 00:03:14,239 Speaker 1: baseball revenue has increased thirty percent. It's it ain't going 44 00:03:14,320 --> 00:03:17,760 Speaker 1: the other way. It continues to grow. It's an eleven 45 00:03:17,919 --> 00:03:24,480 Speaker 1: billion dollar business. The NFL is a thirteen billion dollar business. Hello, 46 00:03:25,240 --> 00:03:30,160 Speaker 1: is this on? Stop it that you could go back? 47 00:03:30,360 --> 00:03:32,440 Speaker 1: Go to the New York Times in their in their 48 00:03:32,480 --> 00:03:36,960 Speaker 1: clip files, you'll read stories from fifties, sixties, seventy years 49 00:03:36,960 --> 00:03:40,760 Speaker 1: ago that said baseball was dying, it was a dinosaur 50 00:03:41,120 --> 00:03:44,360 Speaker 1: the old great lady. Come on, enough with that narrative. 51 00:03:44,720 --> 00:03:50,040 Speaker 1: It's a phony narrative. Fans are mad. I get it. 52 00:03:50,120 --> 00:03:53,600 Speaker 1: They'll be back. We just had twenty eight years of 53 00:03:53,720 --> 00:03:58,400 Speaker 1: labor peace from ninety four to two thousand and twenty two. 54 00:03:58,960 --> 00:04:03,560 Speaker 1: That's twenty eight years. That wasn't baseball. Baseball was always 55 00:04:03,600 --> 00:04:06,720 Speaker 1: having labor issues every two or three years. So so 56 00:04:06,880 --> 00:04:10,640 Speaker 1: pipe down with that noise and get over it. Okay, 57 00:04:11,000 --> 00:04:14,400 Speaker 1: this movie worked out in the game Will Marshall number 58 00:04:14,480 --> 00:04:17,880 Speaker 1: three At some point, we just have to understand when 59 00:04:17,880 --> 00:04:21,640 Speaker 1: there's this much money involved and people trying to figure 60 00:04:21,680 --> 00:04:25,200 Speaker 1: out what to do with it. Uh, you know you're 61 00:04:25,200 --> 00:04:28,280 Speaker 1: gonna have some rugs. You know, there was an NFL 62 00:04:28,320 --> 00:04:32,760 Speaker 1: strike in nine seven. I remember covering that the NBA 63 00:04:33,040 --> 00:04:36,280 Speaker 1: had a work stoppage in nineteen ninety nine. You remember 64 00:04:36,279 --> 00:04:40,279 Speaker 1: the fifty games season. Yet, yeah, these things happen. Baseball 65 00:04:40,360 --> 00:04:44,120 Speaker 1: lost the World Series in Nino and now we're missing 66 00:04:44,200 --> 00:04:46,800 Speaker 1: some games here. And even when you look at some 67 00:04:46,839 --> 00:04:49,640 Speaker 1: of the other leagues, like the NFL, the other reason 68 00:04:49,680 --> 00:04:52,000 Speaker 1: you don't have work stoppage is because the NFL has 69 00:04:52,040 --> 00:04:56,680 Speaker 1: the worst union in the league in sports. So players 70 00:04:56,720 --> 00:04:59,479 Speaker 1: have just kept accepting the deals no matter what, not 71 00:04:59,640 --> 00:05:03,160 Speaker 1: losing any time. And Baseball, let's just I'm gonna get 72 00:05:03,200 --> 00:05:08,240 Speaker 1: baseball union some credit. They've worked and struggled and done 73 00:05:08,240 --> 00:05:11,479 Speaker 1: everything they can to have the strongest union in this country. 74 00:05:11,680 --> 00:05:14,039 Speaker 1: So there's going to be some pains once in a 75 00:05:14,040 --> 00:05:16,159 Speaker 1: while in order to get things that they feel that 76 00:05:16,240 --> 00:05:19,960 Speaker 1: they need. They have great health care, they have great 77 00:05:19,960 --> 00:05:23,680 Speaker 1: pension plans, way better than the other leagues. The NBA 78 00:05:23,920 --> 00:05:27,960 Speaker 1: is very much so comparable. But you remember the NHL 79 00:05:28,080 --> 00:05:32,080 Speaker 1: lost the whole season over labor man This is this 80 00:05:32,160 --> 00:05:35,680 Speaker 1: is this is reality. When you talk about people and money. 81 00:05:35,720 --> 00:05:38,320 Speaker 1: I know you think it's a game, but it's about 82 00:05:38,360 --> 00:05:41,160 Speaker 1: a lot of money and a lot of people figuring 83 00:05:41,200 --> 00:05:44,680 Speaker 1: out how to share it. So while it hurts, it's 84 00:05:44,760 --> 00:05:46,800 Speaker 1: just a part of life we have to accept and 85 00:05:46,839 --> 00:05:55,159 Speaker 1: I've accepted it. Here comes the big interviews. Listen Hendler Good. Now, 86 00:05:55,240 --> 00:05:58,799 Speaker 1: let's welcome in Bobby Nightingale. He is the Cincinnati Read's 87 00:05:58,839 --> 00:06:01,760 Speaker 1: big writer for the sixth and that the Inquirer. And 88 00:06:01,800 --> 00:06:06,920 Speaker 1: of course the lockout has affected everybody, the fans, the players, 89 00:06:07,080 --> 00:06:10,840 Speaker 1: and yes, the reporters. Bobby, welcome to the podcast. And 90 00:06:10,880 --> 00:06:16,279 Speaker 1: are you as bummed out as I am? Absolutely? I 91 00:06:16,279 --> 00:06:19,800 Speaker 1: mean it changes kind of my whole routine, um, you know, 92 00:06:19,880 --> 00:06:21,800 Speaker 1: and I'm sure a lot of fans as routines. You know, 93 00:06:21,880 --> 00:06:24,359 Speaker 1: you're just getting you have the rhythm spring training that 94 00:06:24,440 --> 00:06:26,799 Speaker 1: build up the season, and now it's kind of everything 95 00:06:26,839 --> 00:06:30,039 Speaker 1: is thrown off course. How about for players, you know 96 00:06:30,080 --> 00:06:32,200 Speaker 1: as they try to gear up. I know the league 97 00:06:32,279 --> 00:06:37,240 Speaker 1: is very into saying in the twenty eight days minimum. 98 00:06:37,320 --> 00:06:40,720 Speaker 1: That's why they had dropped that date really of the 99 00:06:40,800 --> 00:06:43,240 Speaker 1: first because they were like, there's no way you can 100 00:06:43,320 --> 00:06:46,600 Speaker 1: get ready in time. You can't rush players through a 101 00:06:46,640 --> 00:06:49,640 Speaker 1: spring training to get ready. How do you think this 102 00:06:49,720 --> 00:06:52,799 Speaker 1: affects the players and all day in limbo to where 103 00:06:52,920 --> 00:06:55,839 Speaker 1: you know they can stay loose or try to get ready, 104 00:06:55,960 --> 00:07:00,719 Speaker 1: or do they not do anything until really camp starts. Yeah, 105 00:07:00,760 --> 00:07:02,440 Speaker 1: I mean that's kind of the big question is how 106 00:07:02,480 --> 00:07:04,800 Speaker 1: early do you ramp up now just kind of you 107 00:07:04,839 --> 00:07:08,640 Speaker 1: have your usual spring training six weeks slowly build up. Um, 108 00:07:08,680 --> 00:07:10,920 Speaker 1: I do think you need the four weeks for starting pitchers. 109 00:07:11,600 --> 00:07:14,520 Speaker 1: I think hitters maybe you probably only need to maybe three. 110 00:07:14,720 --> 00:07:17,200 Speaker 1: I mean, they can get ready pretty quick, but starting 111 00:07:17,200 --> 00:07:19,760 Speaker 1: pitchers just because you have to wait five days between starts, 112 00:07:20,000 --> 00:07:21,960 Speaker 1: even if you're only throwing one or two winning those 113 00:07:22,000 --> 00:07:25,280 Speaker 1: first starts. UM, in a spring training type game, you 114 00:07:25,480 --> 00:07:28,960 Speaker 1: probably need four or five spring training ish starts to 115 00:07:29,000 --> 00:07:30,920 Speaker 1: feel like you're ready for a five or six inning 116 00:07:31,320 --> 00:07:34,400 Speaker 1: real game. So I do think you need that. Obviously, 117 00:07:34,440 --> 00:07:37,800 Speaker 1: they have the experience during that season when everyone had 118 00:07:37,800 --> 00:07:39,800 Speaker 1: that three week camp in July and there were a 119 00:07:39,840 --> 00:07:41,360 Speaker 1: lot of injuries that year. There were a lot of 120 00:07:41,400 --> 00:07:44,720 Speaker 1: guys who velocity was weighed down. So I do think 121 00:07:44,760 --> 00:07:46,760 Speaker 1: that's a concern for a lot of players. But at 122 00:07:46,840 --> 00:07:49,080 Speaker 1: least they do have the experience of knowing what it 123 00:07:49,160 --> 00:07:52,160 Speaker 1: was like in and kind of ramping up on short notice. 124 00:07:53,200 --> 00:07:57,600 Speaker 1: Our guests is Bobby Nightingale. He's the beat writer covering 125 00:07:57,640 --> 00:08:00,960 Speaker 1: the Cincinnati Reds. For the sense of that, the Inquirer 126 00:08:01,040 --> 00:08:05,200 Speaker 1: and Bobby. The other thing too, is, UM, how surprised 127 00:08:05,240 --> 00:08:06,920 Speaker 1: all you that we're here. We knew that there was 128 00:08:07,000 --> 00:08:11,560 Speaker 1: contentious between the owners and the players, but then you know, 129 00:08:12,240 --> 00:08:15,240 Speaker 1: uh that when it came time for free agency, the 130 00:08:15,280 --> 00:08:19,040 Speaker 1: owners shelled out a record two point one six billion 131 00:08:19,200 --> 00:08:23,680 Speaker 1: dollars in contracts. So I kind of was lulded to 132 00:08:23,760 --> 00:08:26,560 Speaker 1: thinking like they you know, they put out all this money. 133 00:08:27,000 --> 00:08:29,080 Speaker 1: I didn't think we would be here. Are you not 134 00:08:29,240 --> 00:08:32,800 Speaker 1: surprised or are you surprised like I? I feel like 135 00:08:32,800 --> 00:08:35,960 Speaker 1: I got more surprised when it actually happens. Um. You know, 136 00:08:35,960 --> 00:08:37,679 Speaker 1: I always thoughted, like the back of my head that 137 00:08:37,840 --> 00:08:39,800 Speaker 1: there's too much money to be lost between the two 138 00:08:39,880 --> 00:08:42,079 Speaker 1: sides by missing games. I mean, this is still a 139 00:08:42,120 --> 00:08:46,400 Speaker 1: sport that January generates ten billion dollars in revenues, So 140 00:08:46,440 --> 00:08:48,560 Speaker 1: it's it's it's hard to believe we're actually here where 141 00:08:48,559 --> 00:08:51,440 Speaker 1: they're gonna miss parts of the season. Um, you know, 142 00:08:51,520 --> 00:08:54,720 Speaker 1: kind of just fighting the divide this ten billion dollars 143 00:08:54,760 --> 00:08:57,959 Speaker 1: in revenues yearly. Um, so that parts surprised me. I mean, 144 00:08:58,040 --> 00:09:00,880 Speaker 1: you see free agency, UM know that that was a 145 00:09:00,960 --> 00:09:04,319 Speaker 1: nice boost before the lockout happened. And it's very curious 146 00:09:04,320 --> 00:09:05,840 Speaker 1: to see kind of how teams will react when the 147 00:09:05,840 --> 00:09:08,840 Speaker 1: lockout ends, because he still had two months of free 148 00:09:08,880 --> 00:09:11,240 Speaker 1: and two months of free agency, two months of the 149 00:09:11,320 --> 00:09:13,400 Speaker 1: offseas that are gonna be condensed into probably a week 150 00:09:13,480 --> 00:09:17,439 Speaker 1: or two after the lockout ends. How about the Cincinnati 151 00:09:17,520 --> 00:09:20,959 Speaker 1: Reds and where are they? I mean, they have a 152 00:09:21,080 --> 00:09:25,600 Speaker 1: nice team. Last year they were playing, you know, wetibly 153 00:09:25,679 --> 00:09:28,080 Speaker 1: well all the way to the end, right before they 154 00:09:28,080 --> 00:09:30,760 Speaker 1: didn't make the playoffs, but but they were right there. 155 00:09:30,800 --> 00:09:34,720 Speaker 1: Bobby as this team going to once we get started again, 156 00:09:34,760 --> 00:09:37,760 Speaker 1: will lay be back in the mix or was that 157 00:09:37,880 --> 00:09:40,320 Speaker 1: just the one of those shot in the arm kind 158 00:09:40,320 --> 00:09:44,160 Speaker 1: of things, you know, like one uh a blip on 159 00:09:44,200 --> 00:09:48,960 Speaker 1: the screen. Or do they have staying power? Yeah? I think, 160 00:09:49,360 --> 00:09:50,960 Speaker 1: I mean they're cutting back, they roll, so, I mean, 161 00:09:51,000 --> 00:09:53,600 Speaker 1: I think it's tough for them to stay competitive. They're 162 00:09:53,640 --> 00:09:57,400 Speaker 1: losing depth and maybe maybe in a shorter season, if 163 00:09:57,400 --> 00:09:59,959 Speaker 1: it's not a hundred sick two games, maybe that suits 164 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:02,080 Speaker 1: them well. I mean, if guys stay healthy, like Joey 165 00:10:02,160 --> 00:10:05,520 Speaker 1: Votto had a resurgent season Jonathan Indian one Rookie of 166 00:10:05,520 --> 00:10:07,640 Speaker 1: the Year. So I mean they have some star power 167 00:10:07,679 --> 00:10:10,800 Speaker 1: in their lineup. Um the start, the front front, guys 168 00:10:10,800 --> 00:10:13,240 Speaker 1: in the rotation are pretty good. It's just a matter 169 00:10:13,320 --> 00:10:14,880 Speaker 1: of that they don't have the depth they've had just 170 00:10:14,880 --> 00:10:17,040 Speaker 1: because they've cut Perro all the last two off seasons. 171 00:10:17,280 --> 00:10:20,000 Speaker 1: So I think they're firmly behind St. Louis and Milwaukee 172 00:10:20,040 --> 00:10:22,920 Speaker 1: in the National League Central, probably fighting with the Cubs 173 00:10:22,960 --> 00:10:25,079 Speaker 1: for third place right now. But if you have a 174 00:10:25,080 --> 00:10:27,960 Speaker 1: shorter season, say it's like a dred games, more guys 175 00:10:28,000 --> 00:10:30,120 Speaker 1: have a chance to stay healthy. You still have the 176 00:10:30,200 --> 00:10:32,960 Speaker 1: Joey Votto that showed up last year, maybe they do 177 00:10:33,040 --> 00:10:34,960 Speaker 1: have a chance to sneak in UM and then you 178 00:10:35,000 --> 00:10:38,760 Speaker 1: have the expanded playoffspital come too. Now, I gotta ask 179 00:10:38,760 --> 00:10:42,240 Speaker 1: you one other question, being a baseball writer, and you 180 00:10:42,360 --> 00:10:46,920 Speaker 1: have a beautiful newborn baby daughter who was born when 181 00:10:47,000 --> 00:10:52,199 Speaker 1: exactly what she's born, Bobby Janu, So she was born 182 00:10:52,200 --> 00:10:54,680 Speaker 1: in the offseason. I just want to know, was there 183 00:10:54,720 --> 00:10:59,079 Speaker 1: any timing, Bobby, with the birth of your baby so 184 00:10:59,120 --> 00:11:02,920 Speaker 1: that you would miss break training. I'm just saying, you know, 185 00:11:03,240 --> 00:11:08,240 Speaker 1: was was that possible or no? I will say it's 186 00:11:08,240 --> 00:11:10,720 Speaker 1: probably like the best timing for the lockout. Like no, 187 00:11:10,880 --> 00:11:13,800 Speaker 1: don't don't have to pay extra for childcare. Uh, you 188 00:11:13,840 --> 00:11:15,800 Speaker 1: can kind of lay back, lay low for a little 189 00:11:15,800 --> 00:11:18,600 Speaker 1: bit to not miss anything. Well, there you go. Well, 190 00:11:18,840 --> 00:11:22,480 Speaker 1: congratulations to you and your wife Mas well top on 191 00:11:22,640 --> 00:11:27,640 Speaker 1: the birth of your daughter. And what's your name? Gianna, 192 00:11:28,000 --> 00:11:32,240 Speaker 1: Gianna Man, Best of luck, Bobby, seeing you like grow 193 00:11:32,360 --> 00:11:34,920 Speaker 1: up man before my eyes man. Very happy, You're proud 194 00:11:34,920 --> 00:11:41,200 Speaker 1: of you, continue success and hopefully while baseball soon. Yeah, 195 00:11:41,240 --> 00:11:43,160 Speaker 1: I can only hope I miss missing. You're in the 196 00:11:43,200 --> 00:11:46,640 Speaker 1: kind of the Detroit press box. So hopefully hopefully, uh 197 00:11:46,840 --> 00:11:50,000 Speaker 1: something will happen sooner than later, no doubt. All right, Bobby, 198 00:11:50,040 --> 00:11:53,480 Speaker 1: thank you thanks for joining the podcast. Yeah my pleasure. 199 00:11:54,920 --> 00:11:57,840 Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in 200 00:11:57,840 --> 00:12:00,840 Speaker 1: the nation. Catch all of our shows at Fox sports 201 00:12:00,960 --> 00:12:04,040 Speaker 1: Radio dot com and within the I Heart Radio app 202 00:12:04,080 --> 00:12:07,840 Speaker 1: search f s R to listen live. When Rob was 203 00:12:07,880 --> 00:12:11,640 Speaker 1: a newspaper columnist, he lived by this motto. If I'm 204 00:12:11,679 --> 00:12:15,640 Speaker 1: writing I'm ripping, let's bring in a writer, a broadcaster, 205 00:12:15,960 --> 00:12:19,600 Speaker 1: older new Now let's welcome in David Grob. He is 206 00:12:19,640 --> 00:12:25,280 Speaker 1: a reporter and editor at MLB bro dot com. Mr Grob, 207 00:12:25,360 --> 00:12:28,600 Speaker 1: Welcome to the podcast. How you doing. I'm doing well, 208 00:12:28,800 --> 00:12:31,880 Speaker 1: you know, uh, kind of disturbed by what's going on 209 00:12:32,000 --> 00:12:34,600 Speaker 1: with him alb. But other than that, I'm I'm doing 210 00:12:34,679 --> 00:12:37,920 Speaker 1: very well. I'm with you, man. Just tell me. I 211 00:12:37,920 --> 00:12:39,920 Speaker 1: didn't think we would get here. I really thought when 212 00:12:39,920 --> 00:12:46,400 Speaker 1: we had the six team our bargaining session on Monday, 213 00:12:46,440 --> 00:12:48,720 Speaker 1: that this would get done. I really believe that that 214 00:12:48,800 --> 00:12:51,920 Speaker 1: they were moving towards something. How shocked are you that, 215 00:12:52,200 --> 00:12:53,959 Speaker 1: you know, the first week of the season has been 216 00:12:53,960 --> 00:12:58,680 Speaker 1: wiped out already. That part is a bit shocking in 217 00:12:58,679 --> 00:13:00,440 Speaker 1: the sense that they let it get the as far, 218 00:13:01,320 --> 00:13:04,559 Speaker 1: but the tactics of the owners have not been surprising. 219 00:13:04,920 --> 00:13:07,000 Speaker 1: The fact that they waited for the three days to 220 00:13:07,040 --> 00:13:10,520 Speaker 1: submit a proposal, the fact that they had uh their 221 00:13:10,559 --> 00:13:13,640 Speaker 1: proposals be so far apart and tried to add things 222 00:13:13,640 --> 00:13:16,400 Speaker 1: in at the last minute during those those marathon sessions 223 00:13:16,440 --> 00:13:19,000 Speaker 1: that you're talking about, And it never seemed like Rob 224 00:13:19,040 --> 00:13:22,160 Speaker 1: Manford has taken this very seriously at all. His presence 225 00:13:22,200 --> 00:13:25,200 Speaker 1: at the press conferences, including the one yesterday, were was 226 00:13:25,240 --> 00:13:28,199 Speaker 1: kind of disturbing. And it just feels like the owners 227 00:13:28,200 --> 00:13:32,040 Speaker 1: are not being um honest and they're not operating in 228 00:13:32,120 --> 00:13:35,000 Speaker 1: good faith. Here. We know that baseball is making more 229 00:13:35,040 --> 00:13:37,480 Speaker 1: money than it's ever made, we know that salaries are 230 00:13:37,520 --> 00:13:41,199 Speaker 1: going down, and yet they're saying that they're struggling financially, 231 00:13:41,559 --> 00:13:44,680 Speaker 1: and that just doesn't make sense. The other part, though, 232 00:13:44,840 --> 00:13:49,960 Speaker 1: that's strange to me, is you know they did spend 233 00:13:50,000 --> 00:13:54,200 Speaker 1: two point one six two two point one six billion 234 00:13:54,240 --> 00:13:57,640 Speaker 1: dollars on contracts on free agents, so so you know 235 00:13:57,720 --> 00:14:00,160 Speaker 1: that was that set a record for free agents. You 236 00:14:00,200 --> 00:14:03,840 Speaker 1: saw the spending frenzy before the lockout? What did you 237 00:14:03,880 --> 00:14:07,240 Speaker 1: make of that? See? That didn't make sense to me, like, 238 00:14:07,240 --> 00:14:10,600 Speaker 1: like they paid players big time money. Yeah, I think 239 00:14:10,600 --> 00:14:12,960 Speaker 1: they were preparing for this because what they wanted to 240 00:14:13,000 --> 00:14:15,959 Speaker 1: do was get those terms in now. And I think 241 00:14:16,000 --> 00:14:18,600 Speaker 1: some of the players were in a rush too, because 242 00:14:18,600 --> 00:14:20,440 Speaker 1: they didn't know what the outcome of this would be. 243 00:14:20,480 --> 00:14:22,640 Speaker 1: And I think some owners took advantage of that in 244 00:14:22,720 --> 00:14:25,080 Speaker 1: being expeditious. I don't think all of them are the 245 00:14:25,200 --> 00:14:28,320 Speaker 1: same as far as they're willingness to spend, their willingness 246 00:14:28,360 --> 00:14:30,720 Speaker 1: to compete, but you know, once they're in their room 247 00:14:30,760 --> 00:14:32,920 Speaker 1: as a group, they're going to act as a group. 248 00:14:33,080 --> 00:14:35,760 Speaker 1: And that's the part I think that is hurting baseball 249 00:14:35,840 --> 00:14:37,800 Speaker 1: more's I think there are two separate kinds of owners. 250 00:14:37,840 --> 00:14:41,040 Speaker 1: Their owners who love baseball that bought baseball teams because 251 00:14:41,040 --> 00:14:43,600 Speaker 1: they want to own baseball team. And then there's a 252 00:14:43,640 --> 00:14:46,320 Speaker 1: big segment of owners that bought baseball teams and see 253 00:14:46,360 --> 00:14:48,640 Speaker 1: them as profit centers and the only thing that they 254 00:14:48,640 --> 00:14:51,320 Speaker 1: look at our numbers. And I think that's been damaging 255 00:14:51,360 --> 00:14:54,480 Speaker 1: to the sport. Yeah, I mean, it's always gonna be 256 00:14:54,560 --> 00:14:58,360 Speaker 1: bad teams, but you gotta give people a product. Everybody 257 00:14:58,400 --> 00:15:01,120 Speaker 1: can't win, Dave, and I agree with you, but but 258 00:15:01,240 --> 00:15:03,320 Speaker 1: you've got to give people a product and a reason 259 00:15:03,360 --> 00:15:06,480 Speaker 1: to come out. And maybe we just have six teams 260 00:15:06,480 --> 00:15:08,920 Speaker 1: too many. I mean, nobody wants to hear that, but 261 00:15:09,000 --> 00:15:11,960 Speaker 1: I believe that that they're probably six teams that need 262 00:15:12,040 --> 00:15:14,680 Speaker 1: to be lopped off and get back to twenty four teams, 263 00:15:15,160 --> 00:15:17,840 Speaker 1: you know, where all the players players don't want to 264 00:15:17,840 --> 00:15:19,720 Speaker 1: hear that because they don't want to lose the jobs. 265 00:15:20,160 --> 00:15:23,320 Speaker 1: But you would have to me a better, more competitive balance, 266 00:15:23,840 --> 00:15:27,520 Speaker 1: and if you had less teams and more people vying 267 00:15:27,600 --> 00:15:30,560 Speaker 1: to play, you know, like and not just filling up 268 00:15:30,680 --> 00:15:33,160 Speaker 1: rosters where people you don't want to pay, and I 269 00:15:33,200 --> 00:15:36,560 Speaker 1: think that's where we get into a problem. But anyway, Uh, 270 00:15:36,680 --> 00:15:40,880 Speaker 1: our guest is David grub He's an writer and editor 271 00:15:40,920 --> 00:15:44,240 Speaker 1: for MLB bro dot com and one little nugget here 272 00:15:44,240 --> 00:15:45,760 Speaker 1: And this is why I wanted to talk to you, 273 00:15:45,920 --> 00:15:50,600 Speaker 1: especially is that if this goes on any longer, there's 274 00:15:50,600 --> 00:15:55,560 Speaker 1: a chance that the anniversary of Jackie Robinson breaking the 275 00:15:55,640 --> 00:15:59,520 Speaker 1: Colab area and changing life as people knew it here 276 00:15:59,520 --> 00:16:02,640 Speaker 1: in the United States could be in jeopardy because it's 277 00:16:02,680 --> 00:16:06,560 Speaker 1: April fifteen. Uh is that day when he played for 278 00:16:06,640 --> 00:16:09,800 Speaker 1: the Brooklyn Dodgers in ninety seven. How big of a 279 00:16:09,840 --> 00:16:14,440 Speaker 1: bumb out? How how big of uh would that be? Uh? 280 00:16:14,480 --> 00:16:18,240 Speaker 1: If this does not happen, if there are very few 281 00:16:18,280 --> 00:16:20,440 Speaker 1: things that over the last twenty five years or so 282 00:16:20,520 --> 00:16:23,240 Speaker 1: that baseball has done really well, and the institution of 283 00:16:23,320 --> 00:16:25,560 Speaker 1: Jackie Robinson Day is one of those things. It's one 284 00:16:25,600 --> 00:16:29,080 Speaker 1: of those rare events that brings everybody to the table, 285 00:16:29,160 --> 00:16:31,640 Speaker 1: that all players want to participate in, that fans want 286 00:16:31,640 --> 00:16:35,440 Speaker 1: to participate in, and it's in a lot of ways 287 00:16:35,480 --> 00:16:37,880 Speaker 1: a reminder of what we can do if we do 288 00:16:37,920 --> 00:16:40,800 Speaker 1: the things the right way, UM, even though we have 289 00:16:40,920 --> 00:16:45,640 Speaker 1: not fulfilled Jackie's requests of seeing more blacks and management 290 00:16:45,680 --> 00:16:48,120 Speaker 1: of seeing more players UM and the growth of of 291 00:16:48,440 --> 00:16:51,880 Speaker 1: of the African American population in the game, which is 292 00:16:51,920 --> 00:16:53,960 Speaker 1: something that obviously we're trying to do with MLB bro 293 00:16:54,120 --> 00:16:57,480 Speaker 1: from our side of it. UM. But yeah, not just Jackie, 294 00:16:57,560 --> 00:16:59,440 Speaker 1: but also again Larry Adobe to be here. The set 295 00:16:59,640 --> 00:17:02,960 Speaker 1: is seventy for the anniversary shortly thereafter, and both of 296 00:17:02,960 --> 00:17:05,480 Speaker 1: those being in jeopardy, particularly Jackie's, who I think is 297 00:17:05,520 --> 00:17:09,919 Speaker 1: the most significant athlete in American history. It would be 298 00:17:09,960 --> 00:17:13,560 Speaker 1: a huge pr loss, but bigger than that, it's a 299 00:17:13,640 --> 00:17:16,480 Speaker 1: huge emotional loss. It's something that we all look forward 300 00:17:16,480 --> 00:17:19,399 Speaker 1: to to see those players in unison wearing the number 301 00:17:19,440 --> 00:17:23,600 Speaker 1: forty two, to know that it means something across an 302 00:17:23,720 --> 00:17:26,880 Speaker 1: entire sport that's unlike any other thing that's been done 303 00:17:26,880 --> 00:17:30,040 Speaker 1: in hockey or basketball or football. There is nothing like 304 00:17:30,160 --> 00:17:34,320 Speaker 1: Jackie Robinson Day. And if Baseball misses out on that, UM, 305 00:17:34,359 --> 00:17:38,119 Speaker 1: I think it's just a further example of how tone 306 00:17:38,160 --> 00:17:41,040 Speaker 1: deaf they are to with this public, their fan base 307 00:17:41,520 --> 00:17:44,399 Speaker 1: really once from them, and it would just be a 308 00:17:44,400 --> 00:17:48,360 Speaker 1: colossal mistake. Last thing I know, like in the heat 309 00:17:48,440 --> 00:17:51,320 Speaker 1: of a moment, we're all pissed and mad at this. 310 00:17:52,000 --> 00:17:54,680 Speaker 1: We did have twenty eight years of labor piece which 311 00:17:54,720 --> 00:17:57,240 Speaker 1: was unheard of in baseball. I'm I'm just giving the 312 00:17:57,320 --> 00:18:01,840 Speaker 1: facts right an to now. But people don't care about 313 00:18:01,880 --> 00:18:04,240 Speaker 1: those twenty eight years. For a lot of this new 314 00:18:04,280 --> 00:18:09,040 Speaker 1: generation the last years, they've never seen labor stoppage in baseball, 315 00:18:09,480 --> 00:18:12,200 Speaker 1: so so this is new to them. But for us 316 00:18:12,240 --> 00:18:16,280 Speaker 1: older people, we we have been through this before. I 317 00:18:16,359 --> 00:18:18,879 Speaker 1: don't believe this is gonna be long because I just 318 00:18:18,920 --> 00:18:22,560 Speaker 1: don't think that you can let this fester too much longer. 319 00:18:23,000 --> 00:18:25,320 Speaker 1: What about you, if you just had to give me 320 00:18:25,359 --> 00:18:28,040 Speaker 1: a guest a minute, how long how many games are 321 00:18:28,040 --> 00:18:31,359 Speaker 1: we gonna miss before we get this deal done. I 322 00:18:31,400 --> 00:18:34,359 Speaker 1: think we're probably maybe another week away, hopefully from a 323 00:18:34,440 --> 00:18:36,920 Speaker 1: resolution to this. And if that's the case, then you 324 00:18:37,000 --> 00:18:40,480 Speaker 1: do a three week spring training and you get players 325 00:18:40,520 --> 00:18:44,600 Speaker 1: in hopefully by mid by that Jackie Robinson date. That's 326 00:18:44,600 --> 00:18:47,080 Speaker 1: what you're really you know, I'd like to operate from. 327 00:18:47,280 --> 00:18:49,080 Speaker 1: You still have time. You can get into the first 328 00:18:49,119 --> 00:18:52,200 Speaker 1: week of April later later the first week of April, um. 329 00:18:52,240 --> 00:18:54,959 Speaker 1: If you get things going next week, by the end 330 00:18:55,000 --> 00:18:58,840 Speaker 1: the Opening Day could be Jackie Robinson Day. It could be, 331 00:18:59,240 --> 00:19:01,840 Speaker 1: and that would be a fantastic thing to to kind 332 00:19:01,840 --> 00:19:06,120 Speaker 1: of gloss over the problems you've had. But I'm optimistic too, 333 00:19:06,160 --> 00:19:08,840 Speaker 1: because I think ultimately the owners have a number in 334 00:19:08,880 --> 00:19:11,080 Speaker 1: their minds and how many games they're willing to miss. 335 00:19:11,400 --> 00:19:14,320 Speaker 1: But those TV contracts mean too much to them. And 336 00:19:14,400 --> 00:19:17,520 Speaker 1: you have teams like the Dodgers, like the Yankees that 337 00:19:17,680 --> 00:19:21,040 Speaker 1: really need to get on the fielding and compete for 338 00:19:21,040 --> 00:19:23,360 Speaker 1: a title. They need to be out there. Their fan 339 00:19:23,440 --> 00:19:26,640 Speaker 1: bases are anxiously awaiting, and they've bought a lot of tickets, 340 00:19:27,040 --> 00:19:29,040 Speaker 1: and I don't think they want to upset those So 341 00:19:29,080 --> 00:19:31,520 Speaker 1: I think that those big markets are gonna push sooner 342 00:19:31,600 --> 00:19:34,800 Speaker 1: rather than later to get this done, no doubt. Mat 343 00:19:34,840 --> 00:19:38,680 Speaker 1: always a pleasure, David Grub Check them out on mlb 344 00:19:38,760 --> 00:19:46,000 Speaker 1: bro dot com. Now, bring in the closer. Here's why 345 00:19:46,160 --> 00:19:49,720 Speaker 1: MLB is better than the NFL or NBA, and it 346 00:19:49,920 --> 00:19:55,440 Speaker 1: isn't even close. All right, Now, let's welcome to the podcast. 347 00:19:56,119 --> 00:19:58,280 Speaker 1: I don't know if there's a bigger baseball fan than me, 348 00:19:58,440 --> 00:20:02,840 Speaker 1: but Ryan Burr shing Er might be uh close second. Ryan, 349 00:20:03,000 --> 00:20:07,680 Speaker 1: Welcome to the podcast. Rob Thank you so much. This 350 00:20:07,760 --> 00:20:10,119 Speaker 1: is super exciting. I'm very happy to be with you, 351 00:20:10,560 --> 00:20:12,439 Speaker 1: no doubt. And I did want to get you on 352 00:20:12,600 --> 00:20:16,360 Speaker 1: because Ryan works at Fox Sports Radio with me. Uh, 353 00:20:16,359 --> 00:20:19,200 Speaker 1: he loves baseball. I love young guys who still love 354 00:20:19,280 --> 00:20:21,480 Speaker 1: the game with that passion. I don't think there's a 355 00:20:21,480 --> 00:20:25,280 Speaker 1: bigger Dodger fan walking around. And he also has a 356 00:20:25,320 --> 00:20:29,560 Speaker 1: podcast called Swing Shift, which you can check out, and 357 00:20:29,720 --> 00:20:33,000 Speaker 1: I been on it. A baseball podcast and a lot 358 00:20:33,040 --> 00:20:36,520 Speaker 1: of fun. But I don't wanted to get a fans perspective. Uh, 359 00:20:36,600 --> 00:20:40,080 Speaker 1: you know the lockout and and Ryan, so you've never 360 00:20:40,600 --> 00:20:43,800 Speaker 1: you've never seen I mean there was the strike of 361 00:20:44,280 --> 00:20:46,919 Speaker 1: ninety ninety four, but you didn't see that. This is 362 00:20:46,960 --> 00:20:49,320 Speaker 1: the first time in your lifetime with a work stoppage 363 00:20:49,359 --> 00:20:52,439 Speaker 1: in the misigan of games. How stunted were you and 364 00:20:52,480 --> 00:20:57,040 Speaker 1: how hurt are you? You know? The sad thing is 365 00:20:57,040 --> 00:21:00,600 Speaker 1: is I wasn't surprised. I've kind of back did this, 366 00:21:00,840 --> 00:21:04,440 Speaker 1: especially given how ugly the situation wasn't just trying to 367 00:21:04,480 --> 00:21:07,560 Speaker 1: get the season off the ground. Knowing the fact that 368 00:21:07,600 --> 00:21:11,600 Speaker 1: the CBO the talks for the c p A back 369 00:21:11,640 --> 00:21:14,919 Speaker 1: in in the last time that they negotiate pretty ugly 370 00:21:15,080 --> 00:21:17,960 Speaker 1: and players kind of had to concede and and take 371 00:21:18,040 --> 00:21:22,640 Speaker 1: some losses there. I kind of figured that this, uh, this, 372 00:21:22,640 --> 00:21:25,640 Speaker 1: this entire negotiation period would get ugly, that things were 373 00:21:25,640 --> 00:21:27,560 Speaker 1: going to get bad, that it was going to be 374 00:21:27,600 --> 00:21:30,359 Speaker 1: way worse than trying to get the season going, and 375 00:21:30,400 --> 00:21:34,280 Speaker 1: that we would probably end up missing games. Um. I 376 00:21:34,320 --> 00:21:37,639 Speaker 1: was starting to grow optimistic as we got closer to 377 00:21:37,640 --> 00:21:42,480 Speaker 1: the deadline and seeing a much more especially on the 378 00:21:42,520 --> 00:21:46,200 Speaker 1: lid quarter to uh to actually getting in the room 379 00:21:46,320 --> 00:21:48,360 Speaker 1: and not leave until a deal is done. The fact 380 00:21:48,400 --> 00:21:50,359 Speaker 1: that they're going deep into the night, I was like, Okay, 381 00:21:50,359 --> 00:21:52,639 Speaker 1: this is good, and I was I was kind of 382 00:21:53,240 --> 00:21:56,560 Speaker 1: started taking the bait there on Monday night where uh, 383 00:21:57,000 --> 00:22:01,560 Speaker 1: I started to see the positivity coming out, and I realized, now, 384 00:22:01,600 --> 00:22:04,520 Speaker 1: in hindsight, and this is something that Bow Benson, who 385 00:22:04,520 --> 00:22:08,399 Speaker 1: I do uh the Swingship podcast with um he uh 386 00:22:08,480 --> 00:22:10,960 Speaker 1: he kind of alluded to was he he said, Man, 387 00:22:11,000 --> 00:22:14,800 Speaker 1: this feels like things are kind of growing in positivity 388 00:22:15,080 --> 00:22:17,200 Speaker 1: and the owners are gonna pull the rug out from 389 00:22:17,280 --> 00:22:19,920 Speaker 1: under us and then try to throw the players under 390 00:22:19,920 --> 00:22:23,040 Speaker 1: the bus. They see, look, we tried, we were we were, 391 00:22:23,080 --> 00:22:25,360 Speaker 1: we were there, we gave them offers and and now 392 00:22:25,359 --> 00:22:29,159 Speaker 1: all of a sudden, they're saying no, Um, I uh, 393 00:22:29,280 --> 00:22:32,359 Speaker 1: I'm upset in the entire situation. I love baseball to 394 00:22:32,400 --> 00:22:34,399 Speaker 1: death and I really started to miss it over the 395 00:22:34,480 --> 00:22:37,840 Speaker 1: last couple of weeks. But quite frankly, Um, all of 396 00:22:37,880 --> 00:22:40,919 Speaker 1: my anger goes directly at the owners, and and I 397 00:22:40,960 --> 00:22:45,240 Speaker 1: really strongly feel like everybody else should agree with me 398 00:22:45,320 --> 00:22:49,160 Speaker 1: in that. Um. And then I was gonna ask you. 399 00:22:49,440 --> 00:22:52,480 Speaker 1: The other thing is, I know a lot of people 400 00:22:52,520 --> 00:22:55,440 Speaker 1: get angry and they go on social media and I'll 401 00:22:55,480 --> 00:22:59,119 Speaker 1: never watch baseball again, and I hate baseball and all that. 402 00:22:59,320 --> 00:23:02,080 Speaker 1: And I've heard that for years, okay, like the death 403 00:23:02,119 --> 00:23:05,320 Speaker 1: of baseball has been going on for fifty years. Okay, 404 00:23:05,359 --> 00:23:10,159 Speaker 1: but uh, you know, if you love the game, you 405 00:23:10,600 --> 00:23:12,679 Speaker 1: have to kind of deal with some of these things. 406 00:23:13,160 --> 00:23:16,600 Speaker 1: I don't think true baseball fans are if if if 407 00:23:16,640 --> 00:23:19,320 Speaker 1: we're delayed, the season delayed a couple of weeks, I'm 408 00:23:19,359 --> 00:23:21,720 Speaker 1: gonna be like, I'll never watch it again. I'm I'm 409 00:23:21,760 --> 00:23:26,480 Speaker 1: I right, it's a little overreaction. I agree. I think 410 00:23:26,480 --> 00:23:29,640 Speaker 1: that if we get the season started at some point 411 00:23:29,640 --> 00:23:32,240 Speaker 1: in April or maybe even early May, by the time 412 00:23:32,240 --> 00:23:34,560 Speaker 1: it hit it hits mid June by the time the 413 00:23:34,640 --> 00:23:37,639 Speaker 1: NBA Finals are done and we get into July and 414 00:23:37,680 --> 00:23:39,440 Speaker 1: you and your friends want to go out to the ballpark, 415 00:23:39,600 --> 00:23:42,040 Speaker 1: You're going to completely forget that this ever happened. I 416 00:23:42,080 --> 00:23:45,400 Speaker 1: really believe that. I think that everybody who does love 417 00:23:45,480 --> 00:23:50,000 Speaker 1: the game already obviously we're frustrated, we're upset over the situation, 418 00:23:50,040 --> 00:23:54,000 Speaker 1: we're annoyed. But when when we're back at the ballpark, 419 00:23:54,119 --> 00:23:56,800 Speaker 1: when we're at home just watching games again, it's all 420 00:23:56,800 --> 00:23:59,960 Speaker 1: gonna be forgot. And I strongly believe that, like you said, 421 00:24:00,680 --> 00:24:05,440 Speaker 1: I've I've heard this entire narrative my whole life. You know, what, 422 00:24:05,840 --> 00:24:09,159 Speaker 1: what are we gonna do to save baseball? Baseball dying? 423 00:24:09,400 --> 00:24:11,840 Speaker 1: And the truth is is at baseball, sure, at a 424 00:24:11,920 --> 00:24:15,040 Speaker 1: national level it does struggle, but it's such a regional 425 00:24:15,119 --> 00:24:17,040 Speaker 1: game that there's that there's not much you can do 426 00:24:17,080 --> 00:24:19,000 Speaker 1: about it. And I do think that there is a 427 00:24:19,040 --> 00:24:22,080 Speaker 1: little bit of positivity coming in these changes that will 428 00:24:22,080 --> 00:24:24,800 Speaker 1: help engage it at a national level because we're gonna 429 00:24:24,840 --> 00:24:28,760 Speaker 1: focus on regional level baseball. I think playoff expansion is 430 00:24:28,800 --> 00:24:31,640 Speaker 1: a good thing. And even though I'm a Dodger fan, 431 00:24:31,920 --> 00:24:33,720 Speaker 1: I'm I'm a fan of the team that's going to 432 00:24:33,960 --> 00:24:37,040 Speaker 1: that it will impact us the most because the Dodgers 433 00:24:37,040 --> 00:24:39,720 Speaker 1: will be in the playoffs no matter what most likely UM, 434 00:24:39,960 --> 00:24:42,320 Speaker 1: but when you expand the postseason, it gives another chance 435 00:24:42,320 --> 00:24:44,800 Speaker 1: for them to lose. But honestly, when you're when you're 436 00:24:44,800 --> 00:24:49,280 Speaker 1: expanding the postseason and you're hopefully instituting a salary floor, 437 00:24:49,680 --> 00:24:54,399 Speaker 1: if you're if you're incentivizing greater spending for UH lower 438 00:24:54,480 --> 00:24:57,440 Speaker 1: level teams, for for mid market teams, UH, you're going 439 00:24:57,480 --> 00:25:01,440 Speaker 1: to engage more regions around the country. And that's what's important, 440 00:25:01,560 --> 00:25:03,600 Speaker 1: is that baseball is such a regional game that when 441 00:25:03,600 --> 00:25:07,320 Speaker 1: you have more regions involved, it will help grow it 442 00:25:07,359 --> 00:25:09,400 Speaker 1: at a national level. So I think that there are 443 00:25:09,760 --> 00:25:12,720 Speaker 1: some positive things coming here. It's just it's very dark 444 00:25:12,800 --> 00:25:15,560 Speaker 1: and very frustrating right now. That's it. Hey, there he 445 00:25:15,760 --> 00:25:19,960 Speaker 1: is Ryan Burr Shinger, a big baseball fan who I 446 00:25:20,040 --> 00:25:23,720 Speaker 1: felt would be great to be on the podcast to 447 00:25:23,840 --> 00:25:26,520 Speaker 1: talk about it from a fans perspective and check out 448 00:25:27,080 --> 00:25:31,200 Speaker 1: his podcast Swing Shift. That's right, Ryan and bow Man Brian, 449 00:25:31,240 --> 00:25:34,800 Speaker 1: we appreciate it, thanks so much, and hopefully we'll have 450 00:25:34,920 --> 00:25:39,080 Speaker 1: baseball sooner than later. Hopefully, Rob, thank you so much, 451 00:25:39,119 --> 00:25:48,160 Speaker 1: really appreciate it. In the words of New York TV 452 00:25:48,320 --> 00:25:51,480 Speaker 1: legend the late Bill Jorgensen, thanking you for your time 453 00:25:51,560 --> 00:25:55,480 Speaker 1: this time until next time. Rob Parker out. He can't 454 00:25:55,520 --> 00:25:58,400 Speaker 1: get it. 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