WEBVTT - Loving An Addict

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<v Speaker 1>I hope you have the enjoyed our previous podcast. I

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<v Speaker 1>gotta tell you I love doing these I love love

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<v Speaker 1>love being able to talk to you from more than

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<v Speaker 1>a couple of minutes at a time. I love sharing

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<v Speaker 1>my heart. And although this podcast is free to you,

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<v Speaker 1>it's not free to produce or to deliver. We have

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<v Speaker 1>a whole team of folks working on these. Before we

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<v Speaker 1>get any further into this conversation, I wanted to talk

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<v Speaker 1>so seeing life through the eyes of a dog made

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<v Speaker 1>heart strings, it's gonna make you cry, but it's got

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<v Speaker 1>such a good ending, a happy ending. The movie opens

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<v Speaker 1>this Friday in theaters everywhere. So I was saying thank

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<v Speaker 1>you for joining us, and thank you for downloading this podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>We decided to talk about bold love on the air

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<v Speaker 1>the last few weeks starting this year with boldness, living boldly,

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<v Speaker 1>taking chances, stepping outside of your comfort zone. And and

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<v Speaker 1>you wrote to me and said the most bold things

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<v Speaker 1>she's ever done, She said, I brought a homeless woman

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<v Speaker 1>home to live with me. I set her up in

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<v Speaker 1>an apartment, my friends and I filled it with donated

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<v Speaker 1>items between another woman and myself, we ended up spending

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<v Speaker 1>a bunch of money filling her fridge and cupboards with food. Unfortunately,

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<v Speaker 1>this woman met a guy and walked away from it

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<v Speaker 1>all because she wasn't allowed to have him live in

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<v Speaker 1>the apartment with her. Now she's in it up back

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<v Speaker 1>on the street again. And thank you for sharing that,

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<v Speaker 1>and thank you for sharing bold love, even if the

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<v Speaker 1>result wasn't what you would hope it would be. I

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<v Speaker 1>can't tell you and how many times I have stepped

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<v Speaker 1>out on faith, stepped out in love and done the

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<v Speaker 1>very same thing you did, provided a home for somebody

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<v Speaker 1>who was homeless, taken in people off the streets. When

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<v Speaker 1>my daughter Sheila was a baby, I met a listener

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<v Speaker 1>who was a prostitute and she had a broken nose

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<v Speaker 1>from her pimp. And she was such a beautiful and

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<v Speaker 1>kind and sweet young lady, and my husband and I

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<v Speaker 1>decided to help her out and found her safe place

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<v Speaker 1>to live and brought her into our hearts and into

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<v Speaker 1>our homes, and she got clean and sober, She detoxed

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<v Speaker 1>off years of drug abuse. She was young, but she

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<v Speaker 1>had been using drugs and alcohol since she was like

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<v Speaker 1>twelve or thirteen years old. She was such a sweet lady,

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<v Speaker 1>such a good heart, but she was so broken, so fragile,

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<v Speaker 1>and she got frustrated because she got a job as

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<v Speaker 1>a waitress and she was making minimum wage and not

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<v Speaker 1>not very much tips. And one night one of her

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<v Speaker 1>old clients contacted her and offered her a great deal

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<v Speaker 1>of money, and she decided to go back, and she

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<v Speaker 1>told herself it was just going to be that one time.

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<v Speaker 1>Well guess what happened That one time led to another time,

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<v Speaker 1>led to another time, led her back to the crack

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<v Speaker 1>pipe and back to the streets. And I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>if she ever found her way home again. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know if she ever made life choices. And that has

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<v Speaker 1>happened dozens of times with people that I've loved, and

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<v Speaker 1>it used to frustrate me and break my heart to think,

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<v Speaker 1>after all I've done, how could you do this? But

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<v Speaker 1>then I realized that it's not about the outcome. It's

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<v Speaker 1>about showing someone there's a better way, and whether they

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<v Speaker 1>choose to take that way or not. I am still

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<v Speaker 1>going to choose to love my husband. My friends, they

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<v Speaker 1>all said, d when are you going to stop? When

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<v Speaker 1>are you going to realize that you're wasting your money,

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<v Speaker 1>You're wasting your time, You're wasting your energy trying to

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<v Speaker 1>help people that don't want to be helped. And if

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<v Speaker 1>somebody says they don't want to be helped or shows

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<v Speaker 1>me they don't want to be helped, that's fine. But

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<v Speaker 1>when somebody shows me that they want to change, they

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<v Speaker 1>want a better life, I am always going to extend

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<v Speaker 1>my heart and love I am. I don't ever want

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<v Speaker 1>to become bitter or cynical, or are frustrated or feel

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<v Speaker 1>used up. I still want to love. Maybe I'll do

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<v Speaker 1>it a little more wisely in the future, but and

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<v Speaker 1>maybe I will instead of trying to help, will do

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<v Speaker 1>what I what I try to do now, which is

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<v Speaker 1>to give more tools for them to make the change

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<v Speaker 1>and make the choices and to do what needs to

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<v Speaker 1>be done. But always love honey, don't and don't get frustrated.

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<v Speaker 1>That she is back out on the street is heartbreaking,

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<v Speaker 1>But you don't know. Maybe you have planted a seed

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<v Speaker 1>in her heart and maybe one night she will go

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<v Speaker 1>to bed and she will wake up and go I

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<v Speaker 1>don't want this life anymore. I don't want the streets anymore.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want the drugs. I don't want the abuse.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want to be addicted to men that destroy me,

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<v Speaker 1>or drugs that take my health and take my sanity.

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<v Speaker 1>You don't know. You planted seed, and that's how God

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<v Speaker 1>calls us to do. So don't get discouraged, and don't

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<v Speaker 1>stop loving. Maybe you are like Ange, and you give

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<v Speaker 1>and give and give of yourself, and maybe a give

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<v Speaker 1>too much. Maybe you've got a son or a daughter

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<v Speaker 1>that makes promises time and time again, and each time

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<v Speaker 1>you fall for it, and then they steal your car

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<v Speaker 1>or your checkbook or your credit card, and your heart

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<v Speaker 1>is shattered all over again. Maybe you need to read

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<v Speaker 1>a little book called Boundaries. It's by a doctor Cloud

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<v Speaker 1>and doctor Townsend. It's been in print for twenty years.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know how long. But it's a great, great book.

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<v Speaker 1>If you're a giver and you're always giving to others

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<v Speaker 1>and they take and take and take until there's nothing

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<v Speaker 1>left to give, maybe you need to set healthy boundaries.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh that's so hard to do. Do you have an

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<v Speaker 1>adult child, a sister or a brother. Maybe it's your

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<v Speaker 1>spouse that simply can't won't or can't get sober and

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<v Speaker 1>get clean, get off the whatever it is they're addicted to,

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<v Speaker 1>stay away from the casinos. I know an adult young woman, beautiful, smart, talented,

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<v Speaker 1>oh so talented, but keeps destroying herself because she can't

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<v Speaker 1>stay away from the casinos. She is addicted to gambling.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a real thing. You're like, how how could you?

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<v Speaker 1>How could you get addicted to throwing your money away?

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<v Speaker 1>It's true, lots of people do it and spend billions

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<v Speaker 1>of dollars every day behind that addiction. If you have

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<v Speaker 1>a hard time setting boundaries with others, try try looking

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<v Speaker 1>into that book Boundaries by Dr Cloud in Doctor Townsend.

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<v Speaker 1>And if you're the one that you have a hard

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<v Speaker 1>time setting boundaries with, if you're if you can't set

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<v Speaker 1>boundaries with yourself, if you make promises to yourself, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>never going to do this. I'm never going to do that,

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<v Speaker 1>and then you turn around and do it. Then you

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<v Speaker 1>need to be the one looking into a twelve step

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<v Speaker 1>group to fix whatever it is that you keep doing.

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<v Speaker 1>I know so many people that have addictions, addictive behaviors,

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<v Speaker 1>and they make promises to themselves, they make promises to

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<v Speaker 1>their kids, and then they don't they don't follow through.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what makes it an addiction. That is the definition

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<v Speaker 1>of addiction, doing the same thing over and over and

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<v Speaker 1>over and expecting different results. Silly you think, well, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not really an alcoholic because I still have a job.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not an alcoholic because I don't go to the

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<v Speaker 1>bars and drink. I just sit here and down a

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<v Speaker 1>bottle of wine or two, or a six pack of

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<v Speaker 1>bear or two. Don't be silly. Come on, are you

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<v Speaker 1>really in that deep of denial. I have a dear

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<v Speaker 1>friend of our family who finally made his way to

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<v Speaker 1>a twelve step meeting about six months ago after he

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<v Speaker 1>had destroyed his life in behind crack cocaine. And he's

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<v Speaker 1>not a young man. I'm not talking to eighteen year

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<v Speaker 1>old or five year old. This man's in his sixties

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<v Speaker 1>and he had been off the drugs for twenty years

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<v Speaker 1>and went back thinking he could control it, thinking he

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<v Speaker 1>could handle it, thinking it wasn't really an addiction. But

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<v Speaker 1>that's the definition of addiction. If you know that you

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<v Speaker 1>have a problem and you can't stop, get help, get help,

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<v Speaker 1>ask for help, raise your hand and say, um, delila,

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<v Speaker 1>I need to talk to you. I don't know what

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<v Speaker 1>to do because I can't stop going to the casino

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<v Speaker 1>and I've ruined my credit and I can't pay my

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<v Speaker 1>rent and I can't even buy food right now. But

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<v Speaker 1>I can't let anyone know there's help. They're is there's help.

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<v Speaker 1>Several years ago when I first found my way to

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<v Speaker 1>the twelve step programs because my husband was an alcoholic

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<v Speaker 1>and my father was an alcoholic, and I found out

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<v Speaker 1>there was a twelve step program for people who love

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<v Speaker 1>people who drink too much, and I refused to go.

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<v Speaker 1>I wanted nothing to do with it because I said,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not the one with the problem, And somebody said, really,

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<v Speaker 1>because I think you're the one that just got out

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<v Speaker 1>of the hospital because you were beat up by a drunk.

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<v Speaker 1>That means you have a problem. Now. My problem is

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<v Speaker 1>I need to get them to stop drinking. I said,

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<v Speaker 1>so many of us think that our problem is we

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<v Speaker 1>got to fix somebody else. In just a moment, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>going to share a phone call that I took on

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<v Speaker 1>my show from somebody who's trying to fix her son.

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<v Speaker 1>And his addiction isn't one that's talked about or even recognized,

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<v Speaker 1>because it's not chemicals. He's not addicted to crack or

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<v Speaker 1>heroin or alcohol. He's addicted to the Internet, and his

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<v Speaker 1>gaming has become his whole life to the point where

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<v Speaker 1>he has no other relationships. I'm gonna share my words

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<v Speaker 1>of wisdom with his mama and see if I can't

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<v Speaker 1>help her find peace in her life. Hi, Cindy, Welcome

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<v Speaker 1>to the Delilah Show. How's your New Year's going so far? Um,

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<v Speaker 1>It's it's a challenge. I'm I'm I'm just more so

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<v Speaker 1>worried about my son. He was twenty two. I had

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<v Speaker 1>a birthday on Christmas. I had nice presents for him

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<v Speaker 1>that I had saved over several months and got them,

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<v Speaker 1>knew that he could use them. And it's just very

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<v Speaker 1>sad because I cooked dinner and made a real nice dinner,

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<v Speaker 1>and usually what his father had been alive, he would

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<v Speaker 1>have helped me clean the kitchen, which he always did.

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<v Speaker 1>But I always cooked on my birthday because that's the

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<v Speaker 1>way I always did. And my son, it didn't offer anything.

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<v Speaker 1>He just says, thanks for the dinner. It was good.

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<v Speaker 1>It Um. After the gifts were open, of course, I

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<v Speaker 1>didn't get anything because he didn't have anything to give me,

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<v Speaker 1>which is fine. He made me a birthday cart and

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<v Speaker 1>that means more to me probably than anything. And um,

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<v Speaker 1>he uh, he's he's incessantly and grossly addicted to game stations.

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<v Speaker 1>It's combat. It's across the boat, pons around the world,

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<v Speaker 1>and he cannot sit and converse with me or talk

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<v Speaker 1>to me on the phone when I call him, ask

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<v Speaker 1>him how his day is, and he said, I'm busy.

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<v Speaker 1>So well, were you busy with? Are you cooking or

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<v Speaker 1>cleaning or what? Can I come and help you? No, mother,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm busy. And I said, well, you know, I just

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to call him wish you a happy New Year.

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<v Speaker 1>And I just hope and pray that God directs you

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<v Speaker 1>on the right path this year and you follow and

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<v Speaker 1>you make the wisest decisions that you could ever make

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<v Speaker 1>as a young man. Well, when I said that, he

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<v Speaker 1>not funny. I'm very, very upset because I love this

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<v Speaker 1>young man more than anything. With his girlfriends leaving them

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<v Speaker 1>after a year living with them, she is absolutely so

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<v Speaker 1>dissatisfied with his behavior, his immaturity. Okay, stop stop, stop, stop,

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<v Speaker 1>stop right there, okay, and take a deep breath, and

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<v Speaker 1>I am going to share something with you that I

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<v Speaker 1>want you to to write it down or to impress

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<v Speaker 1>it on your heart. Okay, sure, are you ready? Yes?

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<v Speaker 1>In the beginning of this conversation, you said, my son

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<v Speaker 1>is terribly addicted to these games, and he is. My

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<v Speaker 1>son is too. I have an eighteen year old son

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<v Speaker 1>that I don't know if he's going to graduate high

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<v Speaker 1>school because he is addicted to the games, and so

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<v Speaker 1>are thousands and millions of his friends and other kids

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<v Speaker 1>their age. So here's what I want you to hear.

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<v Speaker 1>Are you ready, yes, ma'am. It's called the three CS

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<v Speaker 1>of addiction. Number one, You did not cause his addiction.

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<v Speaker 1>Whether a child's addiction is to the Internet, gaming, to gambling,

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<v Speaker 1>to drinking, to drugging, to heroin, to pornography, to eating disorders, whatever,

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<v Speaker 1>whatever the addiction is that is stealing their life from

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<v Speaker 1>them and stealing them out of your arms. You did

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<v Speaker 1>not cause it. Number two, you cannot control it. So

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<v Speaker 1>saying things like I'm going to pray for you that

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<v Speaker 1>you'll make wise decisions, or I'm not going to give

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<v Speaker 1>you any money to buy alcohol, or you're on your

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<v Speaker 1>own if you end up in the street from shooting heroin.

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<v Speaker 1>There's nothing you can say or do to control another

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<v Speaker 1>person's addiction. Trust me, I've tried. And the third see

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<v Speaker 1>is you sure as hell cannot cure it. I know

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<v Speaker 1>he has to. He has to admit his his addiction.

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<v Speaker 1>He has to come forward and say I'm going to

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<v Speaker 1>stop this. He lives on his own and his girlfriend

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<v Speaker 1>lived together. She got so sick and tired of him

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<v Speaker 1>the first six months. She has done with them. She

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<v Speaker 1>dates other people, She works sixteen hour days, she stays

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<v Speaker 1>with some friends once so well, because she cannot stand

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<v Speaker 1>his stilth Um I asked him. I said, the only

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<v Speaker 1>thing of Evan, if yet you can give me is

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<v Speaker 1>um um is a nice Christmas tree decorated. So I

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<v Speaker 1>got my ornaments that I gave him, and Um, I said,

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<v Speaker 1>that's all I want. When I come into your apartment,

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<v Speaker 1>then you can have the tree decorated. And and so

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<v Speaker 1>a friend the daughter. But do you listen, do you

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<v Speaker 1>hear what you're saying. You're talking to an addiction. You're

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<v Speaker 1>not talking to your son. You know what he decorated

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<v Speaker 1>Christmas morning? When I got there, and for Christmas afternoon,

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<v Speaker 1>I said, also, you don't want to decorate a tree.

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<v Speaker 1>You're gonna leave it like this? And he said, no,

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<v Speaker 1>I thought we were going to do it. And then

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<v Speaker 1>his girlfriend's mother was there um giving giving her gifts,

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<v Speaker 1>and she said The mother said, that's all he did

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<v Speaker 1>was play game stations. He has not even attempted to

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<v Speaker 1>decorate the tree. And I said, I cannot believe this.

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<v Speaker 1>He only cost me what he wants. But you can

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<v Speaker 1>believe it because you've been living through it. This isn't

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<v Speaker 1>a new something. This has been going on for a

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<v Speaker 1>long time. But you can believe it. You're frustrated that

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<v Speaker 1>you can't fix it. What you can't believe is that

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<v Speaker 1>you have no power over it. You do not have

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<v Speaker 1>any power over your son's addictive behavior. You don't have

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<v Speaker 1>any power over your son period. You know, once a

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<v Speaker 1>child hit thirteen fourteen, fifteen sixteen, were pretty much powerless

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<v Speaker 1>over what we can and can't do in directing them, well,

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<v Speaker 1>I unplug. He had a game station when he was younger,

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<v Speaker 1>and I am plugged in, took the cord and I said,

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<v Speaker 1>you're done for the next five days. You start showing

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<v Speaker 1>me some responsibility here and I can return this. But

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<v Speaker 1>now I can't. I wish I could go in there

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<v Speaker 1>unplug it and then he but, honey, you sound think

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<v Speaker 1>of all the thousands of moms and dads said, I

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<v Speaker 1>wish I could just take the heroin needle out of

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<v Speaker 1>their arm. I wish I could just go in and

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<v Speaker 1>take the heroin out of their out of their pocketbook,

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<v Speaker 1>out of their briefcase, out of their I wish I

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<v Speaker 1>could just go take that bottle and dump it down

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<v Speaker 1>the sink. And we try those things, but it doesn't work.

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<v Speaker 1>For I drank or smoke, and he drinks a little bit,

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<v Speaker 1>and when he gets a little wine under him or something,

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<v Speaker 1>going out to dinner or something with some friends, which

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<v Speaker 1>I had taken him out for his work because he

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't have a car yet and he's not He doesn't care.

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<v Speaker 1>He just drives his bike across the street where he

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<v Speaker 1>works and rides it back home. And he works um

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<v Speaker 1>with children which he is absolutely fantastic doing his job. Honey,

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<v Speaker 1>you're not listening to a word I'm saying. I am. No,

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<v Speaker 1>you're not. You're rallying on and on and on about him.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not about him. He's an adult. He gets to

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<v Speaker 1>make his choices. This is about you, Mom. It's breaking

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<v Speaker 1>my heart, and you need to learn the Serenity prayer.

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<v Speaker 1>I know that I used to read it all the time.

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<v Speaker 1>I grabbed my head and hanging up on the wall. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>reading it is great, but you need to get it

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<v Speaker 1>into your heart and your mind and your soul. God

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<v Speaker 1>grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change.

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<v Speaker 1>You have not accepted at all that you cannot fix

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<v Speaker 1>your son. I have no qualms dealing with anything, but

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<v Speaker 1>the fact is I just want to be closer to

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<v Speaker 1>my son and be him to be a kinder, more

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<v Speaker 1>giving individual. But but you've got to accept that you

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<v Speaker 1>cannot change your son one iota. All you can do

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<v Speaker 1>is love him and do not enable him, and let

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<v Speaker 1>him make the choices he's going to make, and pray

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<v Speaker 1>that before it's too late, God gets a hold of him.

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<v Speaker 1>I hope, so, Delilah, I really hope. So Cindy, you

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<v Speaker 1>speak for so many of us who are trying to rescue, rescue, ranger,

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<v Speaker 1>rescue a loved one from the darkness of addiction. I

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<v Speaker 1>can hear the love and the desperation you feel to

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<v Speaker 1>try to fix this. You can't just love someone through this,

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<v Speaker 1>trust me, many have tried. However, there is a bold

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<v Speaker 1>enough love, but it's not an earthly love. Doesn't mean

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<v Speaker 1>we give up, doesn't mean we stop loving, doesn't mean

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<v Speaker 1>we stopped praying, doesn't mean we stopped doing kind things.

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<v Speaker 1>But there are some very practical things and ideas that

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<v Speaker 1>we can put into place so that the attic doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>destroy us while the addiction is destroying them. I hope

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<v Speaker 1>to bring the theme of a addiction to several of

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<v Speaker 1>my podcasts this year. I'm going to invite real people

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<v Speaker 1>who have been on every point of addiction, people who

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<v Speaker 1>have been addicted and come out on the other side,

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<v Speaker 1>people who have seen their loved ones through, people who

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<v Speaker 1>have lost their loved ones because of addiction. We're going

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<v Speaker 1>to share these experiences and our strength, hope, and love

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<v Speaker 1>right to me by going to my website Delilah dot com,

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<v Speaker 1>or you can find me on Facebook. I'd love to

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<v Speaker 1>hear your thoughts, your stories, your experiences again. This podcast

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<v Speaker 1>has been brought to you by the producers of the

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<v Speaker 1>film A Dog's Purpose, a great movie to see with

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<v Speaker 1>your whole family. Thank you for spending this time with me.

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<v Speaker 1>So down and love some love,