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Speaker 1: Steelers Nation Radio. Welcome to the Drive with Matt Winch

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Speaker 1: and it's Monday. After the division round of the playoffs,

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Speaker 1: we now know who the final four are in the

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Speaker 1: In the NFL, uh and he's gonna be uh well.

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Speaker 1: In the a f C, the top two seeds advanced,

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Speaker 1: with both Buffalo and Kansas City winning. It were in

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Speaker 1: the NFC it was the Packers the top seed and

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Speaker 1: the Saint I'm sorry the Buccaneers beat the Saints the

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Speaker 1: number two seed UM thirty to twenty two to vans there,

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Speaker 1: so we get some rematches on both ends of it. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and I really enjoyed the weekend as always, and a

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Speaker 1: couple of things I'm gonna kind of go. First of all,

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Speaker 1: if I had to pick the two games to watch

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Speaker 1: just as a fan, these are the ones I want

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Speaker 1: to see. So in the end, I'm happy about the

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Speaker 1: teams we're gonna watch next weekend. I would have been

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Speaker 1: happy with Saints Packers too. I mean yeah, I just

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Speaker 1: don't get breathed much of a chance in Green Bay

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Speaker 1: to do well to be very honest with you, I

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Speaker 1: don't know if I give Brady much of a chance

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Speaker 1: to do well in January. And he throws a ball

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Speaker 1: off at our breeze though, and Breeze looked shot at me.

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Speaker 1: He's done. But on my podcast today, I kind of

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Speaker 1: went on this this long spiel about how much I

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Speaker 1: enjoyed it all. But there were a lot of things

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Speaker 1: that when I look back at the weekend were negative

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Speaker 1: and and here's here's kind of my list. And I

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Speaker 1: don't mean to start this in a in a bad way,

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Speaker 1: but we said, the last two m vps the league

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Speaker 1: leave the game with concussions. You know, we saw the

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Speaker 1: best kicker I've ever seen, missed two field goals short ones.

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Speaker 1: You know, we saw maybe the best defensive player I've

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Speaker 1: ever seen in Aaron Donald. He shouldn't addressed. I mean,

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Speaker 1: he was a shell of himself out there. And Myles

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Speaker 1: Garrett was in that that mold as well, like he's

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Speaker 1: out there giving it everything camp but he's not right.

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Speaker 1: And there was you know, the one of the best

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Speaker 1: quarterbacks who's ever seen, Drew Brees goes out with a

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Speaker 1: whimper and they lose, you know, down the field. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean, their biggest play with there were people trying

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Speaker 1: to compare last night, not to get off sudden, don't know. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: people were trying to well, that's that's what happens. Ben

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Speaker 1: Roethlisberger's like that, he can't know. The Saints thought so

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Speaker 1: little of Drew Brees' ability to throw the full ball

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Speaker 1: down the field that on the one play where they

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Speaker 1: wanted to throw the football down the field, they brought

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Speaker 1: Jamis Winston in to throw the football down the field.

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Speaker 1: They didn't trust Drew Brees to be able to throw

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Speaker 1: the ball forty yards in the air exactly like the

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Speaker 1: Steelers never would have done that with Ben on a trick,

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Speaker 1: you know, And he can still make those. He can

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Speaker 1: still his arm is still strong. He can't move anymore,

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Speaker 1: but his arm is still strong. I do think there

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Speaker 1: are some really interesting Breeze Ben comparisons, and it's really

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Speaker 1: Breeze in the last couple of years. That if because

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Speaker 1: they've been a successful football team, you knows, the last

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Speaker 1: four years didn't go anywhere with them, and they've lost

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Speaker 1: in the playoffs and some of them were the Dig's

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Speaker 1: miracle game and things like that. But he's also had

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Speaker 1: maybe the best line in the league, a play caller

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Speaker 1: and offensive mind that everyone studies every off season. Is

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Speaker 1: like the first thing to do. Let's go watch the

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Speaker 1: Payton's up to and Kamara. You know, I mean, what

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Speaker 1: if this team had Kamara? You know, I mean it's

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Speaker 1: gotten to the point the last couple of years that

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Speaker 1: those around Breezes have boosted him up. Much of his

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Speaker 1: career was the other way around. That's my point is

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Speaker 1: Ben may never be the Ben of his prime, but

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Speaker 1: if you can boost him up as opposed the other

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Speaker 1: you know, they're highly competitive team. We talked about it

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Speaker 1: last week. You know, early in a in a young

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Speaker 1: quarterbacks career, you get players around him that help him play. Right,

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Speaker 1: then you let him, for the next ten years be

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Speaker 1: play again exactly. But but you can win with that.

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Speaker 1: People saying that the Steelers window is closed or um,

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Speaker 1: Devin White make plays all over the field, and like, boy,

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Speaker 1: the Steelers could have used that guy. Oh wait, they

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Speaker 1: nice if the Devin wh instead of Bush. I'm like,

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Speaker 1: him and White have had phenomenal years. And they still

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Speaker 1: make mental mistakes and they still get picked on in coverage,

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Speaker 1: but the big plays far outweigh them, much like Shazier,

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Speaker 1: you know. I mean that's what these guys are. And

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Speaker 1: Bush was on that path, but he got robbed of it.

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Speaker 1: You know. So in his in his five games five

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Speaker 1: First of all they did they were averaging. They were

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Speaker 1: allowing sixty six yards rushing per game Devin Bush in

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Speaker 1: the lineup. Secondly, he had twenty six tackles, a sack,

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Speaker 1: on that same He's on the same trajectory top ten.

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Speaker 1: the season. Again, that's four and a half games, and

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Speaker 1: you know that's over a hundred tackles and four sacks

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Speaker 1: and and twelve pass defenses. And I mean, that's what

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Speaker 1: don't do this for a living. But they're looking at

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Speaker 1: that in a negative way, like, boy, when we got

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Speaker 1: I bet that's what we see, get that guy coming back. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: here's a couple of examples of these highly drafted linebackers

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Speaker 1: don't you can't tell me that Bush wouldn't have been

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Speaker 1: last year, Oh yeah, I mean picked on him bad,

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Speaker 1: people don't realize that there's other times you get picked

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Speaker 1: I'm like, come on, Michael Walker is a part time

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Speaker 1: I respect him, but is he trying to be funny?

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Speaker 1: He's of the belief the Steelers should not have traded up,

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Speaker 1: Devon Bush. Okay, and I actually wanted to talk about

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Speaker 1: that at some point this offseason with you, just because

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Speaker 1: a big price. I mean, to me, it's not a

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Speaker 1: done a lot of things with those assets, but you

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Speaker 1: and Williamson's out there all the time, and you wouldn't.

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Speaker 1: You know, the numbers with him without Bush, like you mentioned,

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Speaker 1: number one inside linebacker in the f C North. Oh yeah,

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Speaker 1: many that are better. Yeah, no doubt. I mean, if

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Speaker 1: and I think that he will be in that conversation

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Speaker 1: the trajectory I think we should expect from Bush. I mean,

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Speaker 1: other side of the fifty, the Bills are just punning again. Instead,

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Speaker 1: I mean, big picture, and I'm curious how Harbaugh steps

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Speaker 1: You know, I mean they're gonna resign Lamar, but what

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Speaker 1: are they gonna do to make his life easier? Much

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Speaker 1: like the Ben conversation, you know, and they're gonna they're

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Speaker 1: they're going to have to end up overpaying for a

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Speaker 1: down that road. They need the veteran chain mover. But

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Speaker 1: Smith's you know, past their prime, but are crafty and tough,

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Speaker 1: Welcome back up, Dale Lally here with Matt Williamson and Matt.

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Speaker 1: go blow it on. You know, all these dudes that

424
00:21:42,640 --> 00:21:45,600
Speaker 1: are now, they may sign a free agent or two,

425
00:21:45,920 --> 00:21:49,280
Speaker 1: but they're not gonna go nuts. No, assuming they continue

426
00:21:49,320 --> 00:21:51,520
Speaker 1: to draft, well, someone else will be dou and Yeah,

427
00:21:51,520 --> 00:21:53,600
Speaker 1: they'll they're gonna pay the guy. They're gonna pay their

428
00:21:53,640 --> 00:21:56,800
Speaker 1: own guys. That's what they're gonna do. So if you

429
00:21:56,880 --> 00:21:58,440
Speaker 1: have to kick that can down the road a little

430
00:21:58,440 --> 00:22:01,000
Speaker 1: bit with Roethlisberger. So what it doesn't mean Ben's a

431
00:22:01,040 --> 00:22:05,720
Speaker 1: starter in two thousand two, right is basically is is

432
00:22:06,520 --> 00:22:11,520
Speaker 1: um Fowler rights here. They're avoidable years. You can okay,

433
00:22:11,640 --> 00:22:13,960
Speaker 1: you know it's it's basically a dummy contract that allows

434
00:22:13,960 --> 00:22:16,199
Speaker 1: you to lessen the blow for next year. I might

435
00:22:16,280 --> 00:22:19,119
Speaker 1: even do it more than five million. Yeah, you can

436
00:22:19,200 --> 00:22:24,080
Speaker 1: stretch it out over three years. I mean they're avoidable years.

437
00:22:24,119 --> 00:22:26,639
Speaker 1: So what Yeah, that makes a lot more sense the

438
00:22:26,640 --> 00:22:28,159
Speaker 1: way you spell it out there. I hadn't given it

439
00:22:28,160 --> 00:22:31,880
Speaker 1: a ton of thought that, you know. The obvious thought is, oh,

440
00:22:31,880 --> 00:22:33,800
Speaker 1: you don't want to maxize your credit cards, just take

441
00:22:34,000 --> 00:22:36,959
Speaker 1: bite the bullet this year, But the credit cards are

442
00:22:37,000 --> 00:22:38,919
Speaker 1: much bigger next year. I mean like there's just you've

443
00:22:38,920 --> 00:22:41,120
Speaker 1: got a lot more credit limit and you're gonna have

444
00:22:41,640 --> 00:22:45,600
Speaker 1: more cap space. And yeah, I think that's a really

445
00:22:45,600 --> 00:22:48,280
Speaker 1: smart move and it's probably something they should. It's something

446
00:22:48,320 --> 00:22:50,399
Speaker 1: they can do with Heywards, you know, they can extend

447
00:22:50,440 --> 00:22:52,080
Speaker 1: to it if they want. They can do a bunch

448
00:22:52,080 --> 00:22:54,360
Speaker 1: of things there that that lessen that blow. Now they've

449
00:22:54,359 --> 00:22:58,639
Speaker 1: got work to do, but it's not that dininger circumstances

450
00:22:58,680 --> 00:23:00,679
Speaker 1: that that that's some may think, right, I mean the

451
00:23:00,720 --> 00:23:03,280
Speaker 1: fact that there's so much flexibility two years from now

452
00:23:03,840 --> 00:23:06,440
Speaker 1: is a great asset in this whole situation. I mean,

453
00:23:06,440 --> 00:23:09,920
Speaker 1: they've never if you went back over the last decade,

454
00:23:10,119 --> 00:23:12,960
Speaker 1: they haven't had combined a huntred and seventy million dollars

455
00:23:12,960 --> 00:23:15,040
Speaker 1: in cap space. Oh I'm sure, I'm sure. I mean

456
00:23:15,080 --> 00:23:17,120
Speaker 1: it just doesn't have because they have good, good players

457
00:23:17,119 --> 00:23:18,800
Speaker 1: and they all cost money and you and they pay

458
00:23:18,840 --> 00:23:21,040
Speaker 1: their own and that's quarterbacks make a good back and

459
00:23:21,119 --> 00:23:23,880
Speaker 1: deserving and right, No, that's not so bad. I mean

460
00:23:24,280 --> 00:23:27,440
Speaker 1: you could free up quite a bit too. And it's

461
00:23:27,480 --> 00:23:30,080
Speaker 1: not even like the same situation where you're all in

462
00:23:30,160 --> 00:23:32,320
Speaker 1: it now to win it, right, it's just good business,

463
00:23:32,320 --> 00:23:35,600
Speaker 1: just spreading things out, and especially with your point that

464
00:23:36,400 --> 00:23:38,000
Speaker 1: this isn't a team that's going to go out and

465
00:23:38,040 --> 00:23:41,320
Speaker 1: be pounding the pavement for free agents. No, they're They're

466
00:23:41,359 --> 00:23:43,520
Speaker 1: like the Colts. Yeah, the Colts have had all kinds

467
00:23:43,520 --> 00:23:45,679
Speaker 1: of cap space every year for the last I don't know,

468
00:23:45,760 --> 00:23:47,359
Speaker 1: five or six years. They don't go on and spend

469
00:23:47,400 --> 00:23:49,560
Speaker 1: it like I've bed. If you asked the Colts if

470
00:23:49,560 --> 00:23:51,200
Speaker 1: you could trade ten million in cap space for a

471
00:23:51,200 --> 00:23:53,480
Speaker 1: second round pick, they do it, like, give me the drafting.

472
00:23:53,560 --> 00:23:55,880
Speaker 1: You know, it's happened to inherit a lot of cap space.

473
00:23:55,920 --> 00:23:57,639
Speaker 1: They're gonna turn it down, but that's not how they

474
00:23:57,680 --> 00:24:00,040
Speaker 1: want to be built. Um. So anyways, looking at it,

475
00:24:00,480 --> 00:24:03,760
Speaker 1: Fowler's overall here. Uh. The other teams that he has

476
00:24:03,800 --> 00:24:06,560
Speaker 1: in that in that uh, I still would have them

477
00:24:06,560 --> 00:24:08,040
Speaker 1: as dedicated to one side of the ball, on the

478
00:24:08,119 --> 00:24:14,200
Speaker 1: right track mostly. Um is the Rams, Yeah, yeah, the Steelers,

479
00:24:14,240 --> 00:24:17,320
Speaker 1: the Seahawks, Okay, yeah, but you can see hiccups with

480
00:24:17,400 --> 00:24:22,320
Speaker 1: these teams. The Colts, Yes, they also a quarterback situation looming.

481
00:24:22,720 --> 00:24:27,520
Speaker 1: The Cardinals, they don't seem like the others. They're on

482
00:24:27,560 --> 00:24:29,920
Speaker 1: the right I mean they're getting better. They're getting better. Yeah.

483
00:24:29,920 --> 00:24:31,600
Speaker 1: I mean if you remember when they earned the first

484
00:24:31,640 --> 00:24:33,760
Speaker 1: pick in the draft, that was maybe the worst offense

485
00:24:33,800 --> 00:24:36,240
Speaker 1: I've ever seen. That was just two years ago. It

486
00:24:36,280 --> 00:24:37,760
Speaker 1: was two years ago, right, So they were eight and

487
00:24:37,760 --> 00:24:39,639
Speaker 1: eight this year, So I mean they're on the right track.

488
00:24:39,840 --> 00:24:44,520
Speaker 1: Kyler Murray was an Oakland eight. Uh. And the Dolphins. Yeah,

489
00:24:45,119 --> 00:24:48,440
Speaker 1: the Dolphins are absolutely on the right track right. Um.

490
00:24:49,000 --> 00:24:52,880
Speaker 1: Looking at the teams that are time for a major rebuild.

491
00:24:53,480 --> 00:25:01,200
Speaker 1: Jacksonville absolutely right. The Jets absolutely absolutely through without Donald. Yeah,

492
00:25:01,320 --> 00:25:03,640
Speaker 1: you know, but right this is where some Steeler fans

493
00:25:03,640 --> 00:25:05,520
Speaker 1: want the Steelers to go though. You don't want to

494
00:25:05,520 --> 00:25:06,800
Speaker 1: be here, folks. You want to be you want to

495
00:25:06,800 --> 00:25:09,760
Speaker 1: win one or two games so you can have the

496
00:25:09,840 --> 00:25:11,320
Speaker 1: number one pick in the draft, so you can take

497
00:25:11,320 --> 00:25:14,479
Speaker 1: a chance on drafting some quarterback who may or may

498
00:25:14,520 --> 00:25:16,320
Speaker 1: not hit and then waiting for him to develop, and

499
00:25:16,400 --> 00:25:18,400
Speaker 1: you know, you think he's a coming to sweep. Joe

500
00:25:18,400 --> 00:25:20,680
Speaker 1: Burrow is great, justin Herbert was great. How many games

501
00:25:20,720 --> 00:25:24,080
Speaker 1: do they win? You know? I mean, are they gonna

502
00:25:24,119 --> 00:25:26,320
Speaker 1: like the league on fire going forward? They might, but

503
00:25:26,520 --> 00:25:29,000
Speaker 1: probably not. You don't want to be in the situation

504
00:25:29,080 --> 00:25:33,160
Speaker 1: where coach said the Chase Young, I hope we're never

505
00:25:33,200 --> 00:25:34,639
Speaker 1: as bad that we can get a guy like you.

506
00:25:36,640 --> 00:25:39,159
Speaker 1: You do not want to be in that situation. Uh

507
00:25:39,320 --> 00:25:41,440
Speaker 1: new took coach taking control. Of course, we know these

508
00:25:41,480 --> 00:25:47,280
Speaker 1: ones from Atlanta, Houston, Detroit. UM, those are the teams

509
00:25:47,280 --> 00:25:49,719
Speaker 1: that still have to make coaching highs. I say, none

510
00:25:49,720 --> 00:25:51,600
Speaker 1: of the coaching hires blow my socks off, by the way,

511
00:25:52,119 --> 00:25:54,639
Speaker 1: I have not seen anything. But you don't want to

512
00:25:54,640 --> 00:25:57,240
Speaker 1: be in that situation either, folks. Here's an interesting one

513
00:25:57,280 --> 00:26:01,080
Speaker 1: time to reassess that kind like Seattle would be like

514
00:26:01,280 --> 00:26:04,360
Speaker 1: that that mold. He has Cincinnati on this list. Time

515
00:26:04,359 --> 00:26:07,000
Speaker 1: to reassess, And I can kind of see it actually

516
00:26:07,000 --> 00:26:09,159
Speaker 1: because if you look at it, playing that one, to me,

517
00:26:09,200 --> 00:26:12,000
Speaker 1: I'm not sure why. Okay, So they went four eleven

518
00:26:12,000 --> 00:26:14,720
Speaker 1: and one this year. The average age of their roster

519
00:26:14,840 --> 00:26:16,639
Speaker 1: is twenty six point seven, which, by the way, is

520
00:26:16,640 --> 00:26:20,440
Speaker 1: the same age as the Steelers. Uh. They have thirty

521
00:26:20,440 --> 00:26:22,920
Speaker 1: one million in cap space, big ticket free agent a

522
00:26:23,040 --> 00:26:26,199
Speaker 1: j Green, low key important free agent William Jackson. That

523
00:26:26,320 --> 00:26:30,240
Speaker 1: is important, It's very important, right, Um priorities this offseason.

524
00:26:30,320 --> 00:26:34,080
Speaker 1: Fixed the offensive line by any means possible, playing a

525
00:26:34,119 --> 00:26:37,040
Speaker 1: mix of projects and journeyman's won't a journeyman won't suffice.

526
00:26:37,080 --> 00:26:39,840
Speaker 1: Invest big in the position through free agency and the draft,

527
00:26:39,840 --> 00:26:42,440
Speaker 1: create synergy from the coaches to the players. There were

528
00:26:42,440 --> 00:26:46,119
Speaker 1: whispers about player discontent beyond the normal losing. Yeah. I

529
00:26:46,160 --> 00:26:49,080
Speaker 1: didn't like hearing that, especially on defense. Um, you know,

530
00:26:49,200 --> 00:26:52,920
Speaker 1: Carlos Dunlaptiz is by forcing a trade, making changes to

531
00:26:53,000 --> 00:26:55,199
Speaker 1: the defensive staff as a good start. Zach Taylor's two

532
00:26:55,200 --> 00:26:57,879
Speaker 1: wins in December created some momentum for year three, and

533
00:26:57,960 --> 00:27:01,639
Speaker 1: Joe Burrow believes he can win big and Cincinnati, but

534
00:27:01,800 --> 00:27:04,440
Speaker 1: they've got the defense is an issue. The defense is

535
00:27:04,440 --> 00:27:06,679
Speaker 1: really and the offensive line is an issue. These are

536
00:27:06,720 --> 00:27:09,640
Speaker 1: two spots that you you know, if you're if you're

537
00:27:10,000 --> 00:27:12,160
Speaker 1: one but good at the other one, you can That's

538
00:27:12,359 --> 00:27:14,760
Speaker 1: that's where the Steelers are at right now. You can Okay,

539
00:27:14,920 --> 00:27:16,720
Speaker 1: we need okay, you need to pour all this into

540
00:27:16,920 --> 00:27:21,040
Speaker 1: fixing your offensive line. All right, that's one problem. A

541
00:27:21,119 --> 00:27:24,840
Speaker 1: defense and an offensive line. That's not a one year fix. No,

542
00:27:24,960 --> 00:27:27,400
Speaker 1: you're right. I mean those are hard problems. And if

543
00:27:27,400 --> 00:27:29,000
Speaker 1: you have an offensive line, well then you can run

544
00:27:29,040 --> 00:27:30,600
Speaker 1: the ball and you keep your defense off the field,

545
00:27:30,640 --> 00:27:34,080
Speaker 1: you know, or your offensive struggling and kind of Steelers,

546
00:27:34,080 --> 00:27:36,200
Speaker 1: but you have a defense and you create some turnovers,

547
00:27:36,240 --> 00:27:38,000
Speaker 1: you put those guys in good situation at least get

548
00:27:38,040 --> 00:27:39,439
Speaker 1: a field goal here and there on the chief. I mean,

549
00:27:39,520 --> 00:27:41,800
Speaker 1: Burrow was throwing the ball more than anybody else in

550
00:27:41,840 --> 00:27:46,359
Speaker 1: the league last year because they couldn't They couldn't stop anybody. No, no,

551
00:27:46,480 --> 00:27:49,440
Speaker 1: they couldn't. And then make them fell off the map too,

552
00:27:49,440 --> 00:27:51,320
Speaker 1: and they weren't moving aybody in the run game. No,

553
00:27:51,480 --> 00:27:53,960
Speaker 1: they have great problems, and I don't know what I

554
00:27:54,000 --> 00:27:56,679
Speaker 1: think about coach Taylor too. I mean, he hasn't won

555
00:27:56,720 --> 00:28:00,320
Speaker 1: many games, and he's not he's won six games in

556
00:28:00,320 --> 00:28:02,160
Speaker 1: two years. In six games or two years, I mean,

557
00:28:02,280 --> 00:28:07,040
Speaker 1: you know he did inherit. You know, the the seven

558
00:28:07,119 --> 00:28:09,640
Speaker 1: Yanks or whatever they were. But they weren't that bad

559
00:28:10,600 --> 00:28:13,720
Speaker 1: last year, right, right, I mean they got some guys. Yeah,

560
00:28:13,720 --> 00:28:16,359
Speaker 1: it's okay. I mean I don't know what. I'm much

561
00:28:16,359 --> 00:28:19,399
Speaker 1: sure why I would say that reassess they just need

562
00:28:19,440 --> 00:28:21,159
Speaker 1: a lot. Yeah, I just think that they maybe they

563
00:28:21,200 --> 00:28:23,880
Speaker 1: need to. I think he's looking at that they need

564
00:28:23,880 --> 00:28:27,160
Speaker 1: to reassess their way. They're looking at their defense. Yeah,

565
00:28:27,200 --> 00:28:30,240
Speaker 1: the defense isn't close, and if you lose William Jackson,

566
00:28:30,280 --> 00:28:33,560
Speaker 1: it's really not close. He's probably their best defensive player.

567
00:28:33,680 --> 00:28:39,320
Speaker 1: I mean, besides Lawson and Bates, who are your foundational

568
00:28:39,400 --> 00:28:42,680
Speaker 1: defensive players? I mean, Geno doesn't count anymore, Dune Laps gone.

569
00:28:43,120 --> 00:28:45,720
Speaker 1: The corners are fine, even if you keep William Jackson.

570
00:28:45,720 --> 00:28:48,320
Speaker 1: But they're not great. You know, like who's your I'm

571
00:28:48,320 --> 00:28:51,920
Speaker 1: not saying who's your Watton Minca, but who's those dudes? Yeah,

572
00:28:52,320 --> 00:28:55,720
Speaker 1: they don't have much to build on the linebackers are atrocious. Yeah,

573
00:28:56,640 --> 00:28:59,200
Speaker 1: uh the Eagles are in that list. Yeah, it's it's

574
00:28:59,200 --> 00:29:02,080
Speaker 1: time to reassess there. And they're a team that that

575
00:29:02,400 --> 00:29:06,200
Speaker 1: I mean four eleven and one. Uh, they have minus

576
00:29:06,360 --> 00:29:09,640
Speaker 1: seventy million in cap space. That's not a good spot

577
00:29:09,680 --> 00:29:12,880
Speaker 1: to being. Big ticket free agent is Jalen Mills, which okay,

578
00:29:13,000 --> 00:29:17,040
Speaker 1: he's all, you know, low key important free agent. Duke Riley.

579
00:29:17,200 --> 00:29:20,520
Speaker 1: I mean it just shows you where they're at though.

580
00:29:20,680 --> 00:29:24,040
Speaker 1: I mean they went out, they were very aggressive. Banner

581
00:29:24,120 --> 00:29:26,440
Speaker 1: was very aggressive and resigning a bunch of those guys

582
00:29:26,480 --> 00:29:29,080
Speaker 1: over the years. The problem is is those guys haven't

583
00:29:29,120 --> 00:29:33,960
Speaker 1: lived up to those contracts. I'm I still support Wentz

584
00:29:34,040 --> 00:29:36,760
Speaker 1: more than I should, frankly because he's been terrible. But

585
00:29:36,840 --> 00:29:40,480
Speaker 1: I would have liked to see that offense with Bear

586
00:29:40,800 --> 00:29:45,840
Speaker 1: or Brooks, the guard lane, Johnson Dillard, the first round pick,

587
00:29:45,960 --> 00:29:49,520
Speaker 1: you know, like that offensive line lost got devastated, got devastated.

588
00:29:49,560 --> 00:29:53,120
Speaker 1: Besides Kelsey, they got shattered. And that's gonna have a

589
00:29:53,160 --> 00:29:55,320
Speaker 1: massive ripple effect. And that's not on the coaching staff

590
00:29:55,360 --> 00:29:58,080
Speaker 1: for the front office, but because that team. The problem

591
00:29:58,120 --> 00:29:59,560
Speaker 1: is some of them, much like the Stealers, some of

592
00:29:59,560 --> 00:30:01,720
Speaker 1: those guys are old, right, and then you put Jason

593
00:30:01,760 --> 00:30:04,480
Speaker 1: Peters in as a gap and he's shot. And you know,

594
00:30:04,960 --> 00:30:07,440
Speaker 1: but that team is very much built on their linement

595
00:30:07,480 --> 00:30:09,480
Speaker 1: on both sides of the ball, and one of them,

596
00:30:09,520 --> 00:30:12,720
Speaker 1: all the injuries at the same spot. You know, that's rough. Uh,

597
00:30:12,800 --> 00:30:16,000
Speaker 1: teams that are stuck in quarterback purgatory. I'm curious what

598
00:30:16,040 --> 00:30:20,800
Speaker 1: this list is. The Bears, yes, and what would you

599
00:30:20,800 --> 00:30:23,280
Speaker 1: do if you were them? Like to me, I'm I

600
00:30:23,320 --> 00:30:25,760
Speaker 1: don't I don't want any of them. I'm starting I'm

601
00:30:25,760 --> 00:30:28,000
Speaker 1: gonna have somebody outside the team. It can't be Mitch.

602
00:30:28,320 --> 00:30:30,400
Speaker 1: But I don't know who that guy is. And you

603
00:30:30,440 --> 00:30:32,600
Speaker 1: win eight and eight, so you're not in any spot

604
00:30:32,640 --> 00:30:34,480
Speaker 1: to go get that guy. Their average age of their

605
00:30:34,480 --> 00:30:38,560
Speaker 1: starters seven point three. They're actually older than the stealer

606
00:30:38,560 --> 00:30:42,760
Speaker 1: that's on the high end. Um, you can probably a

607
00:30:42,840 --> 00:30:45,240
Speaker 1: backup on a good day. Their minus ten million in

608
00:30:45,600 --> 00:30:48,200
Speaker 1: cap space, so they've got some work to do. Uh.

609
00:30:48,280 --> 00:30:51,360
Speaker 1: They're best offensive players. Allen Robinson, he's a free agent agent.

610
00:30:51,880 --> 00:30:56,120
Speaker 1: Um Trabiski is a free agent. I bet they make

611
00:30:56,200 --> 00:30:58,480
Speaker 1: the mistake of bringing him back because they didn't make

612
00:30:58,520 --> 00:31:02,480
Speaker 1: the GM or a coach change. And they're all relig

613
00:31:02,720 --> 00:31:05,160
Speaker 1: they're all in on Mitch, I bet they bring him back.

614
00:31:06,080 --> 00:31:09,800
Speaker 1: You can can withals, you can't go with fools, and

615
00:31:10,000 --> 00:31:12,520
Speaker 1: maybe even cut fools. I think I think he actually

616
00:31:12,520 --> 00:31:15,480
Speaker 1: gets cuttible after this year because he's not worth the money.

617
00:31:15,520 --> 00:31:17,560
Speaker 1: And then you don't have a quarterback and you're not

618
00:31:17,600 --> 00:31:19,520
Speaker 1: in a position to draft one. So I mean he

619
00:31:19,520 --> 00:31:21,360
Speaker 1: goes signed Jamis Winston. I would say, you end up

620
00:31:21,360 --> 00:31:23,280
Speaker 1: with Cam Newton or something, you know, and then you're

621
00:31:23,320 --> 00:31:25,360
Speaker 1: still in purgators, still in purgatory. So that's why they're

622
00:31:25,400 --> 00:31:27,280
Speaker 1: on the list. Yeah, they're a perfect team for that. Uh,

623
00:31:27,320 --> 00:31:31,440
Speaker 1: the Washington football team. They are because they made the playoffs. Yeah,

624
00:31:31,840 --> 00:31:35,760
Speaker 1: maybe if they were the Cowboys or New York you

625
00:31:35,760 --> 00:31:38,080
Speaker 1: could say, well trade up and get trade Lands or

626
00:31:38,080 --> 00:31:40,200
Speaker 1: something and at lastia run it back. But I'm not

627
00:31:40,240 --> 00:31:43,800
Speaker 1: invite Alex Smith back. I'm viting Heineke back, but on

628
00:31:44,120 --> 00:31:46,680
Speaker 1: for nothing. I'm not counting on him being my start.

629
00:31:46,760 --> 00:31:48,560
Speaker 1: Not like, oh, you have one good game, you can

630
00:31:48,640 --> 00:31:51,120
Speaker 1: put the franchise on your shoulders. They're gonna have a

631
00:31:51,120 --> 00:31:53,480
Speaker 1: tough time. Yeah, now they do a thirty five million

632
00:31:53,520 --> 00:31:57,480
Speaker 1: dollars in cap space, but Brandon Shriff's a free agent.

633
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Speaker 1: You got to resign him. The rest of our line

634
00:32:00,200 --> 00:32:02,800
Speaker 1: needs work and they needed You can't give him up. Uh,

635
00:32:03,240 --> 00:32:05,960
Speaker 1: Ronald Darby's a free agent, kind of need him back.

636
00:32:06,280 --> 00:32:10,440
Speaker 1: I mean these are guys you need back. Um, Carolina

637
00:32:10,480 --> 00:32:13,479
Speaker 1: Panthers are in that's in that boat now. They win

638
00:32:13,560 --> 00:32:15,280
Speaker 1: five and eleven, so they may be in a spot

639
00:32:15,280 --> 00:32:17,880
Speaker 1: where they can get a quarterback. And I don't think

640
00:32:17,880 --> 00:32:20,080
Speaker 1: expectations are super high. You know that if you had

641
00:32:20,120 --> 00:32:23,760
Speaker 1: another year where you traded up and went to go

642
00:32:23,840 --> 00:32:26,520
Speaker 1: get a guy, you know, a quarterback and spun your

643
00:32:26,520 --> 00:32:28,920
Speaker 1: wheels with him a little and maybe even kept Teddy around.

644
00:32:29,360 --> 00:32:32,120
Speaker 1: I think ownership and is gonna it's cool with that.

645
00:32:32,320 --> 00:32:33,760
Speaker 1: You know that we we we gave you a six

646
00:32:33,840 --> 00:32:37,160
Speaker 1: year contract, Matt rule, So maybe you could be aggressive

647
00:32:37,200 --> 00:32:40,640
Speaker 1: to get a trade lance or one of these dudes. Um,

648
00:32:40,680 --> 00:32:44,640
Speaker 1: but Bridgewater ain't it. He's a definition of quarterback purgatory.

649
00:32:44,720 --> 00:32:47,800
Speaker 1: Here's their problem. They have four teaen million in cap

650
00:32:47,840 --> 00:32:50,320
Speaker 1: space and they're too big. Free Agencity mentions on here

651
00:32:50,320 --> 00:32:54,360
Speaker 1: are Taylor Mouten and Russell Okung. Both your tackles, both

652
00:32:54,360 --> 00:32:58,360
Speaker 1: your tackles and Mozons played well. But he's not gonna

653
00:32:58,360 --> 00:33:01,440
Speaker 1: be super cheap. No, that's a tough one. That's real

654
00:33:01,520 --> 00:33:06,800
Speaker 1: tough one. Denver. Okay, See, I don't know why I

655
00:33:06,880 --> 00:33:09,880
Speaker 1: keep thinking Denver could be the team that trades for

656
00:33:09,960 --> 00:33:13,680
Speaker 1: darn Older Wentz or rocks the boat with somebody big

657
00:33:13,720 --> 00:33:17,520
Speaker 1: trades up in the draft New GM potentially let me

658
00:33:17,720 --> 00:33:23,760
Speaker 1: roll back with Lock, which I know they're in quarterback part. Yeah,

659
00:33:23,760 --> 00:33:25,280
Speaker 1: because you don't know what, you really don't know what.

660
00:33:25,360 --> 00:33:28,560
Speaker 1: Lock is not enough, not enough, and he could easily

661
00:33:28,600 --> 00:33:33,240
Speaker 1: be Trabiski. Oh yeah, you know, probably it probably is. Yeah,

662
00:33:33,400 --> 00:33:35,680
Speaker 1: and then okay, that's not good enough, and you support

663
00:33:35,720 --> 00:33:37,840
Speaker 1: him with weapons and a better old line, a good

664
00:33:37,840 --> 00:33:41,920
Speaker 1: old line coach, and he did some things. But they've

665
00:33:41,920 --> 00:33:44,560
Speaker 1: got sixteen million cap space. But Justin Simmons is a

666
00:33:44,560 --> 00:33:47,840
Speaker 1: free agent. Um, you know that all these teams have

667
00:33:47,920 --> 00:33:51,560
Speaker 1: a tough BOK. It's not just the Steelers New GM though.

668
00:33:51,560 --> 00:33:53,320
Speaker 1: I mean that's why I was thinking that someone might

669
00:33:53,320 --> 00:33:56,080
Speaker 1: come in and make a splash. Yeah, this one's interesting.

670
00:33:56,160 --> 00:34:00,680
Speaker 1: Dallas had to think you pay Dak They have nineteen

671
00:34:00,680 --> 00:34:03,400
Speaker 1: million in cap space. I don't know how you make

672
00:34:03,440 --> 00:34:06,880
Speaker 1: that work. That's going to eat that up? Um? Yeah, yeah,

673
00:34:06,960 --> 00:34:10,000
Speaker 1: you almost have to do it. Um, but you can't

674
00:34:10,000 --> 00:34:13,240
Speaker 1: do anything else, then I think I draft, draft defense

675
00:34:13,280 --> 00:34:16,719
Speaker 1: and pay back because you weren't winning last year with DAC.

676
00:34:17,000 --> 00:34:18,799
Speaker 1: That was the problem. But the offense was great. The

677
00:34:18,840 --> 00:34:20,920
Speaker 1: offense was great, but you weren't winning because your defense

678
00:34:20,960 --> 00:34:23,400
Speaker 1: stun right, right right, and you're not gonna be able

679
00:34:23,440 --> 00:34:25,560
Speaker 1: to add to that defense at all. You're basically spinning

680
00:34:25,560 --> 00:34:29,440
Speaker 1: your wheels just to keep that. Yeah. Yeah, I can

681
00:34:29,520 --> 00:34:32,920
Speaker 1: live with that though. Seven if it means franchise the

682
00:34:33,000 --> 00:34:37,279
Speaker 1: surprisingly comfortable teams despite their losing record. San Francisco, Yes,

683
00:34:37,960 --> 00:34:48,760
Speaker 1: they're gonna be everyone's Yeah. The Chargers, Yes, I a puppy,

684
00:34:48,880 --> 00:34:52,719
Speaker 1: but they're going the right direction and they got a quarterback. Yeah.

685
00:34:52,719 --> 00:34:54,319
Speaker 1: We're gonna take a break before we get to the

686
00:34:54,360 --> 00:34:57,120
Speaker 1: one side of the ball needs major help category. He

687
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Speaker 1: is Matt Williamson. I'm Dale Lally. You're listening to the

688
00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:05,080
Speaker 1: I've here on Steelers Nation Radio. Your tunes about drive

689
00:35:05,200 --> 00:35:09,440
Speaker 1: on Home of the Black and Goals Steelers Nation Radio.

690
00:35:44,760 --> 00:35:47,440
Speaker 1: Welcome back. I'm Dale already here with Matt Williamson. We're

691
00:35:47,440 --> 00:35:50,760
Speaker 1: going through what Jeremy Fowler's look at the entire NFL.

692
00:35:51,680 --> 00:35:54,400
Speaker 1: Who needs what? And there he put them in different

693
00:35:54,400 --> 00:35:56,759
Speaker 1: tiers and we're down to the one side of the

694
00:35:56,800 --> 00:36:02,000
Speaker 1: ball needs major help. I hope this helps Steeler fans

695
00:36:02,040 --> 00:36:04,200
Speaker 1: realize that everyone's kind of in the same boat. It's

696
00:36:04,200 --> 00:36:06,759
Speaker 1: not like teams are bringing this stuff. Doesn't happen in

697
00:36:06,800 --> 00:36:10,240
Speaker 1: the vacuum. Everybody has major issues, especially with the capping

698
00:36:10,239 --> 00:36:13,200
Speaker 1: as low as it's gonna be, and uncertainly around the league.

699
00:36:13,640 --> 00:36:15,080
Speaker 1: There aren't many of these teams that would be on

700
00:36:15,120 --> 00:36:16,799
Speaker 1: a list if I were to build and be like, oh,

701
00:36:16,840 --> 00:36:20,959
Speaker 1: they're fine, Not many many. Uh So, the one side

702
00:36:20,960 --> 00:36:24,120
Speaker 1: of the ball needs major help, not just a couple

703
00:36:24,120 --> 00:36:26,240
Speaker 1: of tweaks. Yeah, they got to where I stuck the Steelers.

704
00:36:26,760 --> 00:36:30,640
Speaker 1: Here's Ravens there and offense. Obviously the offense needs help.

705
00:36:30,920 --> 00:36:34,520
Speaker 1: Here's their problem though, big ticket free agents Matthew Judean

706
00:36:35,320 --> 00:36:38,319
Speaker 1: or you can outside or any of their you know,

707
00:36:38,360 --> 00:36:40,120
Speaker 1: look at guys, look at any of the age in

708
00:36:40,440 --> 00:36:42,640
Speaker 1: gock Way, for example, when they made the trade for

709
00:36:42,680 --> 00:36:45,239
Speaker 1: in Gockway, people are saying, well, they're just gonna resign him. Well,

710
00:36:45,280 --> 00:36:49,000
Speaker 1: they've only got seventeen million in cap space. It's a possibility.

711
00:36:49,040 --> 00:36:52,239
Speaker 1: And they're talking about extending Lamar Jackson now, right, they're

712
00:36:52,239 --> 00:36:55,439
Speaker 1: gonna have that conversation. That's gonna be job one. That'll

713
00:36:55,480 --> 00:36:57,600
Speaker 1: be job one. Job two is gonna be built a

714
00:36:57,600 --> 00:37:02,400
Speaker 1: passing game. Here's the other part problem for them, his

715
00:37:02,480 --> 00:37:06,400
Speaker 1: low key important free agents Willie Sneed, who ended up

716
00:37:06,400 --> 00:37:09,560
Speaker 1: being their number one five balls yesterday or whatever. And yeah,

717
00:37:09,840 --> 00:37:13,200
Speaker 1: he's not exciting, but he's at least that chain mover

718
00:37:13,280 --> 00:37:15,319
Speaker 1: that should be. He's that guy. Now, maybe you can

719
00:37:15,360 --> 00:37:17,120
Speaker 1: get a better will He Sneed. But again, you've only

720
00:37:17,160 --> 00:37:20,240
Speaker 1: got seventeen million in cap space and no edge rushers,

721
00:37:20,880 --> 00:37:23,160
Speaker 1: and you have to improve your offense right right now.

722
00:37:23,239 --> 00:37:26,480
Speaker 1: You need stuff. I mean that that one almost has

723
00:37:26,520 --> 00:37:30,120
Speaker 1: to be a philosophical discussion, you know, like, guess we

724
00:37:30,200 --> 00:37:32,520
Speaker 1: know at this point we are going to extend Lamar.

725
00:37:32,600 --> 00:37:35,200
Speaker 1: I'm not saying they should consider trading him. I'm a

726
00:37:35,280 --> 00:37:37,719
Speaker 1: Lamar guy, but they might want to look at and

727
00:37:37,719 --> 00:37:41,520
Speaker 1: be like, look what Baker's doing in Cleveland, and maybe

728
00:37:41,520 --> 00:37:43,640
Speaker 1: our passing game has to resemble that a little bit,

729
00:37:43,680 --> 00:37:46,720
Speaker 1: a lot more play action role out. It's easier throws

730
00:37:46,880 --> 00:37:50,440
Speaker 1: West Coast principles, and we can still incorporate his legs

731
00:37:50,520 --> 00:37:53,960
Speaker 1: a lot, but less because it needs to have a

732
00:37:54,000 --> 00:37:57,560
Speaker 1: passage It can't be Lamar running the ball fifteen times

733
00:37:57,560 --> 00:37:59,680
Speaker 1: a game. It just can't. It can't. You saw it

734
00:37:59,719 --> 00:38:03,560
Speaker 1: yesterday with with with with Patrick mahomes Um. You know

735
00:38:03,640 --> 00:38:06,600
Speaker 1: the the for whatever. He is, third and one and

736
00:38:06,640 --> 00:38:10,040
Speaker 1: you run mahomes On on an option Your quarterbacks going

737
00:38:10,120 --> 00:38:12,480
Speaker 1: to get hit on an option play. That's what an

738
00:38:12,520 --> 00:38:14,960
Speaker 1: option plays designed. It If I'm if you're if I'm

739
00:38:14,960 --> 00:38:17,680
Speaker 1: a defensive guy, and it's okay, it's third and one,

740
00:38:18,040 --> 00:38:20,040
Speaker 1: but you're gonna give me a free shot at your quarterback.

741
00:38:20,400 --> 00:38:23,239
Speaker 1: I'm gonna hit the quarterback that's not a Brady third

742
00:38:23,239 --> 00:38:26,200
Speaker 1: and one quarterback, dive in the a gap for frost

743
00:38:26,200 --> 00:38:27,640
Speaker 1: down and people follow on you and you get up

744
00:38:27,640 --> 00:38:30,440
Speaker 1: and everyone's happy. It's exposing him to a lot of

745
00:38:30,440 --> 00:38:33,000
Speaker 1: people trying to take his head off, and which is

746
00:38:33,040 --> 00:38:36,560
Speaker 1: what happy time. It's Steeler Raven week. They're gonna hit

747
00:38:36,600 --> 00:38:39,279
Speaker 1: Lamar if it means the running back, you know. And

748
00:38:39,320 --> 00:38:42,759
Speaker 1: again you said this off the air, and everyone knows this.

749
00:38:43,320 --> 00:38:47,240
Speaker 1: He's a remarkable athlete and a remarkable runner. But Willie

750
00:38:47,239 --> 00:38:51,640
Speaker 1: be four years from now? Yeah, defense is it's it's

751
00:38:51,680 --> 00:38:54,040
Speaker 1: the old so is Robert Griffin early in his career

752
00:38:54,080 --> 00:38:56,680
Speaker 1: and then he get hurt and he wasn't anymore. Yes,

753
00:38:56,760 --> 00:39:00,480
Speaker 1: I mean it's the uh, you know, I love high

754
00:39:00,520 --> 00:39:02,360
Speaker 1: school girls because the older I get, they say the

755
00:39:02,400 --> 00:39:05,120
Speaker 1: same age, And that's you get old offenses and say

756
00:39:05,160 --> 00:39:07,040
Speaker 1: the same age. Man, the older you get, they're gonna

757
00:39:07,080 --> 00:39:08,800
Speaker 1: start catching you. You're not gonna be faster and everyone

758
00:39:08,800 --> 00:39:12,000
Speaker 1: for long. And that the teams in the division are

759
00:39:12,040 --> 00:39:14,840
Speaker 1: going to continue drafting guys to Hey, we got a

760
00:39:14,920 --> 00:39:16,920
Speaker 1: draft guys who can catch lamar Oh, there's gonna be

761
00:39:16,960 --> 00:39:20,960
Speaker 1: a lot more bushes and queens in the in the division. Yeah,

762
00:39:21,000 --> 00:39:23,560
Speaker 1: the Titans, he has in that group and that one,

763
00:39:23,719 --> 00:39:26,360
Speaker 1: and they need to upgrade the defense in a bad way.

764
00:39:26,440 --> 00:39:28,600
Speaker 1: They have no pass rush. To me, that's what they need,

765
00:39:28,640 --> 00:39:32,520
Speaker 1: specifically pass rush. Here's their problem. They've only got one

766
00:39:32,520 --> 00:39:35,120
Speaker 1: million dollars in cap space and there are other problem

767
00:39:35,239 --> 00:39:37,839
Speaker 1: is they can't count on the offense to remain the same. Now. Yeah,

768
00:39:37,880 --> 00:39:39,840
Speaker 1: Corey Davis and Johnny Smith are both free ag and

769
00:39:40,000 --> 00:39:42,480
Speaker 1: coordinators left and the coordinators just left. So I mean,

770
00:39:42,520 --> 00:39:46,200
Speaker 1: you just lost two year top three pass catchers and A. J.

771
00:39:46,320 --> 00:39:48,760
Speaker 1: Brown's gonna get doubled like crazy. But you've got nothing

772
00:39:49,080 --> 00:39:52,760
Speaker 1: nothing this year they signed. I spent twenty two million

773
00:39:52,800 --> 00:39:57,040
Speaker 1: dollars on Judeveon Clowney and Vic Beasley, and they combined

774
00:39:57,040 --> 00:40:00,600
Speaker 1: for no sacks, no sacks, and even two years in

775
00:40:00,640 --> 00:40:03,440
Speaker 1: a row. Now they have not exercised their option on

776
00:40:03,520 --> 00:40:06,240
Speaker 1: Jack Conklin or Corey Davis. And I bet they regret

777
00:40:06,239 --> 00:40:08,000
Speaker 1: those two moves, you know, like you can bind those

778
00:40:08,040 --> 00:40:10,680
Speaker 1: four moves that are all bad, that we're all expensive,

779
00:40:11,160 --> 00:40:13,279
Speaker 1: and you've got nothing out of any of that that

780
00:40:13,440 --> 00:40:16,240
Speaker 1: hurts man. Tannehill is really good and Brown and Henry,

781
00:40:16,280 --> 00:40:18,680
Speaker 1: but Henry ain't gonna last forever. You's not gonna last forever,

782
00:40:18,719 --> 00:40:20,120
Speaker 1: and you just gave him a bunch of money, and

783
00:40:20,120 --> 00:40:22,239
Speaker 1: they may regret that in two years. The thing about

784
00:40:22,280 --> 00:40:24,359
Speaker 1: their defense, so it doesn't quite add up to me,

785
00:40:24,480 --> 00:40:27,080
Speaker 1: and a lot of people blame it on Rabel being

786
00:40:27,080 --> 00:40:29,239
Speaker 1: the defensive coordinator, and I think he will hire one.

787
00:40:29,600 --> 00:40:31,759
Speaker 1: They have some good players at least, like I look

788
00:40:31,760 --> 00:40:33,800
Speaker 1: at the Browns and say they have two good players

789
00:40:33,840 --> 00:40:36,560
Speaker 1: and they need a lot of starters. Where the Titans,

790
00:40:36,880 --> 00:40:40,960
Speaker 1: I'll take Evans and Simmons and Landing. They've got some

791
00:40:41,000 --> 00:40:43,120
Speaker 1: guys and bired, you know, like they have some good

792
00:40:43,200 --> 00:40:46,680
Speaker 1: dudes like this. When you add up all the pieces,

793
00:40:46,800 --> 00:40:49,000
Speaker 1: the sum isn't as big as it should be. But

794
00:40:49,040 --> 00:40:51,160
Speaker 1: they need one more pass rusher. And I think maybe

795
00:40:51,160 --> 00:40:53,319
Speaker 1: it's a little of that is because they don't have

796
00:40:53,360 --> 00:40:56,040
Speaker 1: a pass rush. Yeah, it makes them vulnerable to any

797
00:40:56,120 --> 00:40:58,960
Speaker 1: to lose to anybody. They're awful on third downs. That's

798
00:40:58,960 --> 00:41:02,160
Speaker 1: the thing is too. Like I would always preview their

799
00:41:02,200 --> 00:41:04,560
Speaker 1: games and I'd go through, you know, stats that are

800
00:41:04,640 --> 00:41:08,440
Speaker 1: kind of behind the scenes, and I'd always right, this

801
00:41:08,520 --> 00:41:11,320
Speaker 1: might shock you, but with the way they play offense,

802
00:41:11,360 --> 00:41:13,759
Speaker 1: and as much as Derrick Henry controls the ball, but

803
00:41:13,800 --> 00:41:16,440
Speaker 1: they're terrible in time of possession because they can't get

804
00:41:16,480 --> 00:41:19,600
Speaker 1: off the field, and they're terrible and special team, which

805
00:41:19,640 --> 00:41:21,520
Speaker 1: is it's a double whammy. They might have, like draft

806
00:41:21,520 --> 00:41:23,040
Speaker 1: a kicker in the fourth round, you know what I mean,

807
00:41:23,040 --> 00:41:28,759
Speaker 1: it's double The next team on this list, Minnesota, they

808
00:41:28,840 --> 00:41:31,680
Speaker 1: might be in quarterback purgatory too. They could very well be.

809
00:41:32,480 --> 00:41:36,920
Speaker 1: But the defense needs to get better. Um, the offense

810
00:41:37,040 --> 00:41:39,880
Speaker 1: is fine. Is that what they're saying, It's let's go

811
00:41:40,000 --> 00:41:44,759
Speaker 1: back to Zimmer defense. They really just because they were

812
00:41:44,760 --> 00:41:46,520
Speaker 1: in kept hell, I would say this year was a

813
00:41:46,520 --> 00:41:49,480
Speaker 1: transition just basically got rid of the entire defense from

814
00:41:49,520 --> 00:41:51,759
Speaker 1: last year except for like Anthony Harris, and then their

815
00:41:51,760 --> 00:41:55,439
Speaker 1: best player, Dannil Hunter gets hurt. Yeah, it's defensive minded

816
00:41:55,480 --> 00:41:58,760
Speaker 1: head coach. I mean some of these teams and maybe

817
00:41:58,840 --> 00:42:01,600
Speaker 1: this is will be Pittsburg this yere don't know. They'll

818
00:42:01,640 --> 00:42:05,040
Speaker 1: never say this was our step back year. And then

819
00:42:05,160 --> 00:42:07,520
Speaker 1: because they don't end up winning two games, but this

820
00:42:07,600 --> 00:42:10,279
Speaker 1: was a Viking step back here. You saw it this

821
00:42:10,320 --> 00:42:12,600
Speaker 1: time a year ago. But then they made they made

822
00:42:12,600 --> 00:42:15,600
Speaker 1: the trade to go get Day and then they gave

823
00:42:15,680 --> 00:42:17,439
Speaker 1: you know, after they figured out if the Hunter wasn't

824
00:42:17,440 --> 00:42:20,960
Speaker 1: gonna come back, they they got got rid of him,

825
00:42:21,000 --> 00:42:23,120
Speaker 1: and then they started winning games and start winning games

826
00:42:23,239 --> 00:42:24,920
Speaker 1: right because I think Zimmer is a good coach and

827
00:42:24,920 --> 00:42:29,560
Speaker 1: they're good organization, ask um. But and then you know

828
00:42:29,560 --> 00:42:33,400
Speaker 1: their draft, they draft fourteen guys or something. Well some

829
00:42:33,440 --> 00:42:35,239
Speaker 1: of them pride and didn't make the team, and two

830
00:42:35,320 --> 00:42:36,920
Speaker 1: of them we never heard of will step up this

831
00:42:37,000 --> 00:42:39,240
Speaker 1: year and be cheap and you know they'll get better.

832
00:42:39,320 --> 00:42:42,040
Speaker 1: But they also have that quarterback problem where they don't

833
00:42:42,040 --> 00:42:45,759
Speaker 1: have there in purgatory a little. The Patriots are on

834
00:42:45,800 --> 00:42:48,680
Speaker 1: that list. Obviously, they need to get better. On offense

835
00:42:49,040 --> 00:42:51,160
Speaker 1: to get better on defense. So too. Yeah, the defense

836
00:42:51,239 --> 00:42:53,120
Speaker 1: was not good at the end of the year. Last

837
00:42:53,160 --> 00:42:55,919
Speaker 1: year we offense steaks. The offense was maybe the worst

838
00:42:55,960 --> 00:42:59,080
Speaker 1: offense in the league, maybe the horst offensive. Yes, there

839
00:42:59,120 --> 00:43:00,839
Speaker 1: was a lot of bad defense, but I think that

840
00:43:00,920 --> 00:43:03,400
Speaker 1: was I'd love to play against that offense. Yeah, you

841
00:43:03,440 --> 00:43:08,600
Speaker 1: don't throw the ball. They need everything on offense except

842
00:43:08,600 --> 00:43:11,400
Speaker 1: I mean their lines. All right, you have Duny is

843
00:43:11,440 --> 00:43:14,279
Speaker 1: a but he's up, he's up, and you just you

844
00:43:14,360 --> 00:43:16,600
Speaker 1: just franchised him. So now you've set them, You've set

845
00:43:16,640 --> 00:43:19,319
Speaker 1: the bar, you know. I bet they let him walk

846
00:43:19,360 --> 00:43:21,480
Speaker 1: and pick up a compic for him. They at least

847
00:43:21,520 --> 00:43:22,600
Speaker 1: have a lot of picks, and they have a lot

848
00:43:22,640 --> 00:43:25,239
Speaker 1: of cap space, and they do have people coming back,

849
00:43:25,400 --> 00:43:27,440
Speaker 1: presumably from the COVID list. I don't know if they

850
00:43:27,440 --> 00:43:30,239
Speaker 1: will or not. The thing is, it was easy to

851
00:43:30,320 --> 00:43:32,480
Speaker 1: get guys to buy into going there when you had

852
00:43:32,520 --> 00:43:35,120
Speaker 1: Tom Brady. You know, the veteran guys who are at

853
00:43:35,160 --> 00:43:36,480
Speaker 1: the end of their career, who could come in and

854
00:43:36,520 --> 00:43:39,839
Speaker 1: give you a year of solid play. Now you're looking

855
00:43:39,880 --> 00:43:41,319
Speaker 1: at it. If I'm a veteran, I'm going do I

856
00:43:41,320 --> 00:43:43,560
Speaker 1: really want to go up to New England be miserable

857
00:43:43,640 --> 00:43:46,879
Speaker 1: for the entire season to Cincinnati or Chicago, or we've

858
00:43:46,880 --> 00:43:49,400
Speaker 1: got no chance. There's no quarterback in place. They're not

859
00:43:49,400 --> 00:43:52,680
Speaker 1: gonna win the division next year, right right, So it

860
00:43:52,800 --> 00:43:55,440
Speaker 1: used to be they almost they're almost in a situation

861
00:43:55,480 --> 00:43:57,319
Speaker 1: now where they're gonna have to overpay a little bit

862
00:43:57,440 --> 00:44:00,000
Speaker 1: to agents to go get a Hunter Henry or somebody

863
00:44:00,320 --> 00:44:03,000
Speaker 1: that maybe because it's not a super it's not in

864
00:44:03,000 --> 00:44:06,279
Speaker 1: a very attractive place. Unicorns and rainbows. Yeah, you went

865
00:44:06,280 --> 00:44:08,200
Speaker 1: there before because you had the chance to win a championship.

866
00:44:08,200 --> 00:44:10,480
Speaker 1: Will Night, I don't pick up playoff checks, play with

867
00:44:10,520 --> 00:44:13,120
Speaker 1: Tom win the whole thing. Yeah, you might be probably

868
00:44:13,200 --> 00:44:17,880
Speaker 1: right about that. The Giants are on that. Yeah, I guess.

869
00:44:17,920 --> 00:44:20,640
Speaker 1: I mean their defense is really coming around. I don't

870
00:44:20,680 --> 00:44:23,839
Speaker 1: think they'll make any quarterback changes, but I think they

871
00:44:23,880 --> 00:44:26,280
Speaker 1: need I think they need to improve their offensive line. Yes,

872
00:44:27,000 --> 00:44:29,319
Speaker 1: they need two pieces on offense. Could go a long

873
00:44:29,360 --> 00:44:31,839
Speaker 1: way with Sa Kwan coming back, you know, I mean

874
00:44:32,120 --> 00:44:36,319
Speaker 1: a number one like Slayton's on number one receiver. Those

875
00:44:36,360 --> 00:44:39,200
Speaker 1: are complimentary. Yeah, like if they get the kid out

876
00:44:39,239 --> 00:44:40,880
Speaker 1: of LSU or one of the Bama guys in the

877
00:44:40,920 --> 00:44:44,600
Speaker 1: first round. Okay, you know, and um, spend money on

878
00:44:44,880 --> 00:44:48,040
Speaker 1: a center or something along those lines. But the defense also,

879
00:44:48,120 --> 00:44:49,759
Speaker 1: I think the back end of the defense needs to

880
00:44:49,800 --> 00:44:53,120
Speaker 1: get better. And Leonard Leonard Williams is a free agent.

881
00:44:53,680 --> 00:44:55,680
Speaker 1: He's an expensive He's had a really good year too,

882
00:44:55,680 --> 00:44:57,319
Speaker 1: and they get a nine million in KEP space. Their

883
00:44:57,400 --> 00:44:59,720
Speaker 1: edge guys are bad too, But the defense played well.

884
00:45:00,600 --> 00:45:03,560
Speaker 1: The Raiders are on that list. Defense thinks the defense

885
00:45:03,640 --> 00:45:05,759
Speaker 1: is atrocious. I think the offense is really good. Yeah,

886
00:45:06,120 --> 00:45:09,200
Speaker 1: but that's Gruden, like when in doubt he's gonna take

887
00:45:09,239 --> 00:45:11,640
Speaker 1: Henry Ruggs as opposed to another edge guy, you know,

888
00:45:11,719 --> 00:45:14,360
Speaker 1: like give me the shiny offensive weapon. I mean, I

889
00:45:14,440 --> 00:45:16,720
Speaker 1: think that's kind of something they need to worry about

890
00:45:16,719 --> 00:45:18,640
Speaker 1: with the guy in charge. But they need a whole

891
00:45:18,680 --> 00:45:23,880
Speaker 1: off season of defense. Um. He has one team listed

892
00:45:23,920 --> 00:45:25,879
Speaker 1: as on the brink, and I would actually put them

893
00:45:25,880 --> 00:45:29,759
Speaker 1: in that last category. He has the Browns. He is

894
00:45:29,800 --> 00:45:33,760
Speaker 1: the Browns listed as being on the brink. Their defense

895
00:45:33,880 --> 00:45:37,120
Speaker 1: is not good. It's not Their defense again, is not

896
00:45:37,200 --> 00:45:40,839
Speaker 1: any better than Tennessee's. In Tennessee's offense might be better.

897
00:45:41,440 --> 00:45:43,759
Speaker 1: Tennessee's offense is better at least right the second but

898
00:45:43,840 --> 00:45:46,799
Speaker 1: tense he's gonna lose something of offense. They won't. I

899
00:45:46,880 --> 00:45:49,239
Speaker 1: get that, and I could see why people would put

900
00:45:49,280 --> 00:45:52,319
Speaker 1: the Browns in that category. And frankly, as an organization,

901
00:45:52,760 --> 00:45:55,080
Speaker 1: I'm higher on them now than I was three days

902
00:45:55,080 --> 00:46:00,240
Speaker 1: ago or two weeks ago, including Baker. But they're dfense

903
00:46:00,360 --> 00:46:03,160
Speaker 1: is bad. I mean, it's it's more than a piece

904
00:46:03,200 --> 00:46:05,319
Speaker 1: or two away bad, you know. I mean when they've

905
00:46:05,360 --> 00:46:08,760
Speaker 1: when they've got Nick Chubb, I would ran him more yesterday.

906
00:46:08,760 --> 00:46:11,239
Speaker 1: I would have run it more yesterday too. But they

907
00:46:11,239 --> 00:46:13,719
Speaker 1: can beat anybody. They can beat anybody, but they have

908
00:46:13,760 --> 00:46:17,000
Speaker 1: to play a certain way because their defense can't hold up.

909
00:46:17,320 --> 00:46:20,040
Speaker 1: The defense can't be out there long. Yeah, and there

910
00:46:21,000 --> 00:46:23,399
Speaker 1: they weren't terrible against you know, a great Chiefs team,

911
00:46:23,480 --> 00:46:25,480
Speaker 1: but I kind of felt like the Chiefs could have

912
00:46:25,520 --> 00:46:27,319
Speaker 1: dropped forty arm at any point to you know, like

913
00:46:27,400 --> 00:46:29,000
Speaker 1: I mean, if my homes keeps playing in that game,

914
00:46:29,040 --> 00:46:33,520
Speaker 1: they probably in the it's probably not scoring two more touchdowns. Uh.

915
00:46:33,560 --> 00:46:39,840
Speaker 1: In need of a financial reset the Saints Saints million

916
00:46:39,840 --> 00:46:44,279
Speaker 1: dollars over the cap. That's with Trey Hendrickson is a

917
00:46:44,320 --> 00:46:48,560
Speaker 1: big ticket, that's with Marcus Williams. Uh is a free

918
00:46:48,640 --> 00:46:50,480
Speaker 1: one of the better free safeties in the leagues. Yeah,

919
00:46:50,719 --> 00:46:55,200
Speaker 1: I mean they're in trouble. Yeah. I saw Bill Barnwell

920
00:46:55,280 --> 00:46:57,760
Speaker 1: do something about this, and he came to the conclusion

921
00:46:57,800 --> 00:47:00,560
Speaker 1: of how to get under the cap, and it was like,

922
00:47:01,160 --> 00:47:05,279
Speaker 1: trade Ryan Ramcheck, trade Marcus Lattimore, let all your free

923
00:47:05,280 --> 00:47:08,000
Speaker 1: agents go obviously, you know, like, but then what do

924
00:47:08,000 --> 00:47:10,880
Speaker 1: you guys when you put on the field. Nothing. That's

925
00:47:10,880 --> 00:47:13,919
Speaker 1: a team that we talked about. All the Steers can't

926
00:47:13,920 --> 00:47:16,480
Speaker 1: be four and twelve the Saints could. The Saints very

927
00:47:16,480 --> 00:47:19,680
Speaker 1: well because they could really lose it all, including their quarterbacks.

928
00:47:19,719 --> 00:47:21,839
Speaker 1: Don't have a quarterback. A quarterback. I think it will

929
00:47:21,880 --> 00:47:24,160
Speaker 1: be Jamis next year, by the way. Yeah, a little

930
00:47:24,160 --> 00:47:29,279
Speaker 1: birdie told me that they actually didn't play him over

931
00:47:29,440 --> 00:47:31,680
Speaker 1: hill because they don't want to keep the price up. Yeah,

932
00:47:31,680 --> 00:47:33,239
Speaker 1: because they know they don't make money if they can,

933
00:47:33,360 --> 00:47:35,359
Speaker 1: but it's still going to be more than they can pay.

934
00:47:35,760 --> 00:47:37,879
Speaker 1: And he's like, what's he gonna He's not gonna sign

935
00:47:37,920 --> 00:47:40,080
Speaker 1: to Hey, I'm just gonna sign back here for you know,

936
00:47:40,520 --> 00:47:43,839
Speaker 1: one year at five million, right right. I don't think

937
00:47:43,840 --> 00:47:46,319
Speaker 1: there'll be a lot of suitors for him now. But

938
00:47:46,440 --> 00:47:49,080
Speaker 1: I mean their offense is gonna better next year probably

939
00:47:49,120 --> 00:47:53,160
Speaker 1: not so, Yeah, it's gonna be it's gonna be interesting.

940
00:47:53,160 --> 00:47:55,319
Speaker 1: But I thought that was an interesting written list and

941
00:47:55,400 --> 00:47:58,920
Speaker 1: read um. And of course there's four teams still playing,

942
00:47:58,960 --> 00:48:01,160
Speaker 1: and they get thems are their owns that they're gonna

943
00:48:01,200 --> 00:48:03,800
Speaker 1: have to deal with, Yeah, they do. I mean Tampa's

944
00:48:03,840 --> 00:48:06,240
Speaker 1: quarterback isn't a young guy. And you know, the Chiefs

945
00:48:06,239 --> 00:48:09,160
Speaker 1: have a lot of holes to their defense, their offensive line,

946
00:48:09,520 --> 00:48:11,479
Speaker 1: and they're over the cap. And they're over the cap too.

947
00:48:11,600 --> 00:48:13,200
Speaker 1: I think Green Bay is in a pretty good spot

948
00:48:13,200 --> 00:48:15,200
Speaker 1: all and all. I can't think of their major issues.

949
00:48:15,400 --> 00:48:17,799
Speaker 1: And they still need a number two receiver that's they do,

950
00:48:17,840 --> 00:48:21,040
Speaker 1: but is a free agent, and you get some guys

951
00:48:21,080 --> 00:48:23,640
Speaker 1: that are yeah, um, and the bill is actually a

952
00:48:23,640 --> 00:48:26,319
Speaker 1: pretty good shape. Yeah they're they're well built and they

953
00:48:26,360 --> 00:48:28,399
Speaker 1: should be able to withstand things for a while. Yeah,

954
00:48:28,400 --> 00:48:31,200
Speaker 1: but they're the best teams in the league right now. Anyways. Yeah,

955
00:48:31,480 --> 00:48:33,880
Speaker 1: he is Matt Williamson. I'm Dale, Lolly. You're listening to

956
00:48:33,960 --> 00:48:36,399
Speaker 1: the Drive here on Steelers Nation Radio. We're gonna take

957
00:48:36,400 --> 00:48:37,640
Speaker 1: a break. When we come back, it's time for the

958
00:48:37,680 --> 00:48:46,600
Speaker 1: Fantasy Football Focus. We'll get to that right after. This

959
00:48:47,080 --> 00:48:50,279
Speaker 1: is the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson on

960
00:48:50,400 --> 00:48:55,360
Speaker 1: your Home of the Black and Gold Steelers Nation Radio.

961
00:49:17,640 --> 00:49:22,640
Speaker 1: Welcome back up Dale, Matt Williamson and uh time for

962
00:49:22,640 --> 00:49:25,520
Speaker 1: the Fantasy Football Focus. Mett. We had our lineup that

963
00:49:25,880 --> 00:49:30,320
Speaker 1: we put into a DFS contest on Draft Kings, and

964
00:49:30,760 --> 00:49:37,000
Speaker 1: well was it awful? But didn't We finished five points

965
00:49:37,000 --> 00:49:39,520
Speaker 1: out of winning some money, but we finished sixty six

966
00:49:39,560 --> 00:49:43,160
Speaker 1: points out of first place. Overall. Our lineup was Baker

967
00:49:43,200 --> 00:49:47,239
Speaker 1: Mayfield twelve point four six points. That was not good enough.

968
00:49:47,440 --> 00:49:49,160
Speaker 1: You mentioned off the air, I mean none of the

969
00:49:49,239 --> 00:49:53,440
Speaker 1: quarterbacks really Yeah, nobody, nobody just tore it up. But

970
00:49:53,480 --> 00:49:55,560
Speaker 1: you can't have a twelve point four six at the quarterback.

971
00:49:55,840 --> 00:49:58,759
Speaker 1: Of course, we need to get points there, and that

972
00:49:58,800 --> 00:50:00,960
Speaker 1: didn't happen. If we get twenty twenty five points there,

973
00:50:01,360 --> 00:50:05,760
Speaker 1: we win money. We didn't. Uh Kareem Hunt had ten points,

974
00:50:05,800 --> 00:50:08,120
Speaker 1: ten point four points. They didn't use him. He didn't

975
00:50:08,160 --> 00:50:09,959
Speaker 1: have a point in the first half of that game. Yeah,

976
00:50:09,960 --> 00:50:11,919
Speaker 1: that's strange, which I thought they should run the ball

977
00:50:11,960 --> 00:50:13,840
Speaker 1: more with Chubb but more in general, which would have

978
00:50:13,840 --> 00:50:16,440
Speaker 1: helped topped Hunt. But all in all, we were thought

979
00:50:16,640 --> 00:50:19,120
Speaker 1: ten plus from him was what we were after. But

980
00:50:19,800 --> 00:50:22,360
Speaker 1: it could have been better. Um. Baker was at fifteen

981
00:50:22,360 --> 00:50:25,440
Speaker 1: point eight percent ownership. Hunt was at thirty six point

982
00:50:25,600 --> 00:50:28,840
Speaker 1: one percent ownership. He was highly owned, but not nearly

983
00:50:28,880 --> 00:50:31,640
Speaker 1: his owned as cam Akers, and we kind of talked

984
00:50:31,640 --> 00:50:34,200
Speaker 1: about that less everybody was going to be on cam Akers.

985
00:50:34,600 --> 00:50:36,440
Speaker 1: That proved to be a pretty decent start. He at

986
00:50:36,480 --> 00:50:39,840
Speaker 1: eighteen points six points. Um, but there is a fine

987
00:50:39,880 --> 00:50:42,279
Speaker 1: line too. Yeah, we got a good we picked a

988
00:50:42,280 --> 00:50:45,040
Speaker 1: good dude, but so everybody else, everybody else. Yeah, so

989
00:50:45,600 --> 00:50:47,560
Speaker 1: all that did was get us even with everybody else.

990
00:50:48,400 --> 00:50:51,160
Speaker 1: Antonio Brown was owned by twenty five point six percent

991
00:50:51,200 --> 00:50:53,400
Speaker 1: as o K. He had two points one catch for

992
00:50:53,440 --> 00:50:56,200
Speaker 1: ten yards. He pulled a blame to like the they

993
00:50:56,280 --> 00:51:00,480
Speaker 1: have other receivers too. Yeah. Yeah, Manuel Sanders that kind

994
00:51:00,480 --> 00:51:03,319
Speaker 1: of worked out. He was owned by eight point six percent. Uh,

995
00:51:03,440 --> 00:51:05,239
Speaker 1: we got ten point eight points out of him, so

996
00:51:05,680 --> 00:51:07,640
Speaker 1: that's what you want. Now. It would have been nice

997
00:51:07,640 --> 00:51:10,240
Speaker 1: if he scores a touchdown. But on Thursday or Friday,

998
00:51:10,280 --> 00:51:12,000
Speaker 1: I think we had taken ten point eight out of him,

999
00:51:12,280 --> 00:51:15,080
Speaker 1: you know, for a cheap guy. Tyreek was owned by

1000
00:51:15,120 --> 00:51:18,240
Speaker 1: forty one point eight percent of teams. He was twenty

1001
00:51:18,280 --> 00:51:21,640
Speaker 1: two point nine points. Travis Kelsey was our tight end.

1002
00:51:21,640 --> 00:51:26,399
Speaker 1: Was owned by forty seven point eight percent. Yeah, but

1003
00:51:26,440 --> 00:51:28,319
Speaker 1: again we we we kind of knew that, you know,

1004
00:51:28,360 --> 00:51:30,880
Speaker 1: going in, like we knew the Acres, Hill and Kelsey

1005
00:51:30,920 --> 00:51:33,759
Speaker 1: since we were building our lineups around those guys had

1006
00:51:33,840 --> 00:51:36,120
Speaker 1: to hit and but it knew that they were going

1007
00:51:36,160 --> 00:51:39,120
Speaker 1: to be high ownership. Yeah, they all did well. We

1008
00:51:39,160 --> 00:51:41,839
Speaker 1: didn't screw up there, but none of them blew up

1009
00:51:42,239 --> 00:51:44,879
Speaker 1: and a lot of PEO owned him. Yeah. Uh. Devin

1010
00:51:45,000 --> 00:51:47,800
Speaker 1: Singletary did not work out. He was owned by twenty

1011
00:51:47,800 --> 00:51:51,000
Speaker 1: six point seven percent of owners He got six point

1012
00:51:51,080 --> 00:51:55,600
Speaker 1: seven points. And our big play was the Packers. The

1013
00:51:55,640 --> 00:51:58,120
Speaker 1: Packers were only owned by thirteen point five percent of

1014
00:51:58,400 --> 00:52:01,160
Speaker 1: That's a little surprised. I thought be more. But they

1015
00:52:01,160 --> 00:52:05,880
Speaker 1: only scored five points, which was a problems stuff late. Yeah,

1016
00:52:05,920 --> 00:52:08,400
Speaker 1: So if you look at the team that won it,

1017
00:52:09,800 --> 00:52:12,640
Speaker 1: Um had Aaron Rodgers, he had twenty five point five

1018
00:52:12,920 --> 00:52:15,359
Speaker 1: four points. He was only owned by eight point four

1019
00:52:15,400 --> 00:52:20,120
Speaker 1: percent in the very low ownership. Yeah uh. He also

1020
00:52:20,160 --> 00:52:22,759
Speaker 1: had Hunt. He also had Acres, so he had made

1021
00:52:22,800 --> 00:52:25,799
Speaker 1: the same running backs. Yeah. So we lost. We're down

1022
00:52:25,840 --> 00:52:28,080
Speaker 1: twelve points now just at the quarterback. Thirteen points at

1023
00:52:28,080 --> 00:52:32,879
Speaker 1: the quarterback. Position. Trawan Smith, that's a killer. He owned

1024
00:52:32,920 --> 00:52:35,360
Speaker 1: him one percent of leagues. He got twenty three and

1025
00:52:35,360 --> 00:52:38,080
Speaker 1: a half points out of tray Kwe Smith. That's a

1026
00:52:38,080 --> 00:52:40,760
Speaker 1: home run. You get the guy that one percent owned

1027
00:52:40,800 --> 00:52:44,359
Speaker 1: who was super cheap. That allowed you to get the

1028
00:52:43,760 --> 00:52:47,760
Speaker 1: the chalk guys. Yeah, because he also had Stefon Diggs

1029
00:52:48,640 --> 00:52:52,160
Speaker 1: who had twenty eight point nine percent ownership and scored

1030
00:52:52,160 --> 00:52:56,560
Speaker 1: twenty seven point six points. Willie Snead was one point

1031
00:52:56,600 --> 00:52:59,399
Speaker 1: three percent ownership, and he got five catchers for twenty

1032
00:52:59,440 --> 00:53:01,720
Speaker 1: five yards at Willie Steed that's seven and a half points.

1033
00:53:02,600 --> 00:53:06,640
Speaker 1: But he paid like nothing for Willie Steve right dollars,

1034
00:53:06,680 --> 00:53:12,840
Speaker 1: as was Drake one Smith. Yeah, and there's two players

1035
00:53:12,880 --> 00:53:15,920
Speaker 1: that cost you a total of sixty six hundred dollars.

1036
00:53:16,280 --> 00:53:18,640
Speaker 1: You got over thirty points, and you end up with

1037
00:53:19,000 --> 00:53:22,880
Speaker 1: the Digs and Rogers. Because he had Kelsey at tight end.

1038
00:53:23,080 --> 00:53:25,360
Speaker 1: That also allowed him to have Tyree Hills as flex.

1039
00:53:26,000 --> 00:53:29,040
Speaker 1: I mean he has hilled Kelsey and Diggs. Yeah, you know,

1040
00:53:29,280 --> 00:53:31,320
Speaker 1: because going cheap with those guys, and one of the

1041
00:53:31,360 --> 00:53:33,759
Speaker 1: cheap guys hit and the other one wasn't terrible, and

1042
00:53:33,760 --> 00:53:35,400
Speaker 1: the other one wasn't terrible. You know, he didn't take

1043
00:53:35,400 --> 00:53:39,600
Speaker 1: a zero there. He also had the Bill's defense, which

1044
00:53:39,640 --> 00:53:42,160
Speaker 1: owned was owned in fourteen point nine percent, and they

1045
00:53:42,200 --> 00:53:45,719
Speaker 1: got nineteen points. That's a that's a winner. That's twenty

1046
00:53:46,320 --> 00:53:49,719
Speaker 1: defense or defense, and the d played really really well.

1047
00:53:50,040 --> 00:53:53,040
Speaker 1: It wasn't just the pick six. So yeah, that's well done.

1048
00:53:53,480 --> 00:53:55,799
Speaker 1: Can see how you win things doing that. Yeah. Now,

1049
00:53:55,840 --> 00:53:57,680
Speaker 1: I started my own lineup and I tweaked it a

1050
00:53:57,719 --> 00:54:01,880
Speaker 1: little bit. I had shown it, um, I'd sent it

1051
00:54:01,920 --> 00:54:03,360
Speaker 1: to you early in the week, and I tried to

1052
00:54:03,400 --> 00:54:07,879
Speaker 1: figure out a way to keep uh, Travis Kelsey, Tyreek Hill,

1053
00:54:08,400 --> 00:54:10,879
Speaker 1: and Patrick Mahomes. I did a stack of those three

1054
00:54:10,880 --> 00:54:13,879
Speaker 1: guys and then built around that. So my homes ended

1055
00:54:13,920 --> 00:54:16,719
Speaker 1: up with twenty one point six points leaving in the

1056
00:54:16,760 --> 00:54:18,960
Speaker 1: third quarter. He was on page, he was on he

1057
00:54:19,040 --> 00:54:20,680
Speaker 1: was on part to get thirty plus points in that.

1058
00:54:22,320 --> 00:54:25,360
Speaker 1: So that would have worked out. Kelsey and and and

1059
00:54:25,880 --> 00:54:30,280
Speaker 1: Hill we're both again good nine points uh and twenty

1060
00:54:30,320 --> 00:54:33,160
Speaker 1: seven point nine points, um, but they probably would have

1061
00:54:33,200 --> 00:54:34,400
Speaker 1: been a little better off. My homes as a good

1062
00:54:34,440 --> 00:54:37,879
Speaker 1: hurt too. Yeah. Right, you know, UM, let me get

1063
00:54:38,239 --> 00:54:42,040
Speaker 1: the right thing up here. I'm pretty sure you went

1064
00:54:42,080 --> 00:54:44,400
Speaker 1: with Acres in that league as well I did. I

1065
00:54:44,400 --> 00:54:48,880
Speaker 1: I had Acres, Yeah, um, did you go Packers in

1066
00:54:48,960 --> 00:54:51,640
Speaker 1: that league? To defense? I went Ravens, which got me

1067
00:54:51,719 --> 00:54:55,160
Speaker 1: six points. That was ten point three percent ownership. Could

1068
00:54:55,280 --> 00:54:56,719
Speaker 1: I could have paid for the bills? I had a

1069
00:54:56,800 --> 00:54:59,920
Speaker 1: hundred dollars left over. The bills are Ravens or twenty

1070
00:55:00,040 --> 00:55:05,280
Speaker 1: eight and if I had gone with the bills, thirteen

1071
00:55:05,320 --> 00:55:06,839
Speaker 1: more points would have put me in the top ten

1072
00:55:06,840 --> 00:55:09,440
Speaker 1: in this contest. I ended up finishing thirty sixth overall,

1073
00:55:09,480 --> 00:55:11,719
Speaker 1: which got me in the money. Out of I think

1074
00:55:11,719 --> 00:55:15,319
Speaker 1: it was like out of eight hundred and some lineups. Um,

1075
00:55:15,360 --> 00:55:17,560
Speaker 1: so I had my homes he had a thirty three

1076
00:55:17,560 --> 00:55:21,399
Speaker 1: percent ownership, which is reasonably high. But you know, Hunt

1077
00:55:21,440 --> 00:55:25,200
Speaker 1: and Acres were my running backs. I switched things up.

1078
00:55:26,000 --> 00:55:30,000
Speaker 1: I had Chris Gobwin at the wide receiver position. Okay, uh.

1079
00:55:30,120 --> 00:55:32,640
Speaker 1: He had cost me sixty dollars. He was only owned

1080
00:55:32,640 --> 00:55:35,439
Speaker 1: an eighteen percent of leagues, and he dropped that damn

1081
00:55:35,520 --> 00:55:38,120
Speaker 1: touchdown that would have been that would have put me

1082
00:55:38,160 --> 00:55:40,440
Speaker 1: in the top ten touchdown. That was a thirty three

1083
00:55:40,520 --> 00:55:45,640
Speaker 1: yard touchdown pass. I had Tyreek Hill. I had Van

1084
00:55:45,760 --> 00:55:50,839
Speaker 1: Jefferson in the lineup three thousand dollars. He cost me in. Yeah,

1085
00:55:50,880 --> 00:55:53,200
Speaker 1: when when Cup went inactive, he was owning point two

1086
00:55:53,239 --> 00:55:56,040
Speaker 1: percent of leagues and I got sixteen point six points

1087
00:55:56,080 --> 00:56:00,080
Speaker 1: in them. Yeah, I could have been I couldn't afforded

1088
00:56:00,160 --> 00:56:06,000
Speaker 1: him and gone and gotten track once met. But yeah,

1089
00:56:06,000 --> 00:56:08,360
Speaker 1: at the end, your Van Jefferson moved made your money. Yeah,

1090
00:56:08,400 --> 00:56:11,400
Speaker 1: that one, that one worked out because I had Travis

1091
00:56:11,480 --> 00:56:13,759
Speaker 1: Kelsey and my flex. I could again could have gone

1092
00:56:13,840 --> 00:56:18,239
Speaker 1: Van Jefferson here too. Instead I went Austin Hooper. I

1093
00:56:19,360 --> 00:56:21,319
Speaker 1: put a couple of bucks on him. The over on

1094
00:56:21,400 --> 00:56:23,520
Speaker 1: catches you have like two catches. He had two catches

1095
00:56:23,560 --> 00:56:26,000
Speaker 1: for sixteen yards, and the jok Wu end up being

1096
00:56:26,200 --> 00:56:28,360
Speaker 1: and Joku was the guy who was who was targeted.

1097
00:56:28,520 --> 00:56:31,560
Speaker 1: I just it was so frustrating because I thought Hooper

1098
00:56:31,640 --> 00:56:34,320
Speaker 1: was kind of in a smashed spot because the Chiefs

1099
00:56:34,920 --> 00:56:38,280
Speaker 1: thirty thin the league covering line or tight ends just awful.

1100
00:56:38,400 --> 00:56:41,279
Speaker 1: And Hooper generally is a high floor guy to begin with,

1101
00:56:41,560 --> 00:56:43,759
Speaker 1: it probably isn't gonna hurt you. But if you can

1102
00:56:43,800 --> 00:56:47,279
Speaker 1: smash in this situation, wow, And that's funny because I

1103
00:56:47,520 --> 00:56:49,479
Speaker 1: put money on that too, thinking he's in a catch

1104
00:56:49,480 --> 00:56:51,320
Speaker 1: six balls. I mean, I think the over under was

1105
00:56:51,360 --> 00:56:53,600
Speaker 1: like three and a half and he got the two man.

1106
00:56:53,800 --> 00:56:56,000
Speaker 1: I finished thirty one points at the first place in

1107
00:56:56,000 --> 00:56:59,360
Speaker 1: that one. UM, so about half as much as we

1108
00:56:59,400 --> 00:57:02,560
Speaker 1: did with our lineup. The team that wanted on that

1109
00:57:02,600 --> 00:57:06,399
Speaker 1: one had Mahomes at quarterback, Leonard four Nett at running back.

1110
00:57:07,800 --> 00:57:10,880
Speaker 1: Dollars he was owned an eleven point two percent ownership. Uh,

1111
00:57:11,000 --> 00:57:13,200
Speaker 1: that's a he get twenty one point seven points out

1112
00:57:13,200 --> 00:57:15,200
Speaker 1: of Leonard four Nett. Are you starting four net over

1113
00:57:15,280 --> 00:57:18,160
Speaker 1: Jones next week? If you have to pick between the two, guy,

1114
00:57:18,120 --> 00:57:20,760
Speaker 1: I am, but probably he'd probably be I don't know

1115
00:57:20,800 --> 00:57:22,200
Speaker 1: if he'll be cheaper or not. We'll have to look

1116
00:57:22,200 --> 00:57:25,960
Speaker 1: at that. Be interesting conversation for Friday. Again, he had acres.

1117
00:57:25,960 --> 00:57:30,760
Speaker 1: I think everybody who won money are yeah, hit Jarvis Landry.

1118
00:57:31,120 --> 00:57:33,760
Speaker 1: Jarvis Landry was fifty six hundred dollars. He had twenty

1119
00:57:33,800 --> 00:57:38,200
Speaker 1: point seven percent ownership. He got fifteen points. That's not bad. Yeah,

1120
00:57:38,320 --> 00:57:41,160
Speaker 1: we never respect that guy, but he's valuable. Yes he

1121
00:57:41,200 --> 00:57:44,480
Speaker 1: had a touchdown, uh seven catches, but he only had

1122
00:57:44,480 --> 00:57:48,960
Speaker 1: twenty receiving yards. That's all. Yeah. They didn't average much

1123
00:57:48,960 --> 00:57:51,880
Speaker 1: with their passing games. Non. Uh, he had mccol hardman.

1124
00:57:51,960 --> 00:57:54,080
Speaker 1: I thought about using mcole Hardman. What did he end

1125
00:57:54,160 --> 00:57:56,320
Speaker 1: up with? I didn't remember. He was thirty nine hundred

1126
00:57:56,360 --> 00:57:59,960
Speaker 1: dollars eleven percent ownership. He had four catches for fifth

1127
00:58:00,080 --> 00:58:02,320
Speaker 1: eight yards in a four yard run, so he ended

1128
00:58:02,360 --> 00:58:07,200
Speaker 1: up with ten point two points for He was like

1129
00:58:07,240 --> 00:58:10,120
Speaker 1: your Van Jefferson. Josh Reynolds was another guy that I

1130
00:58:10,160 --> 00:58:11,560
Speaker 1: looked at when I was going with. When I went

1131
00:58:11,600 --> 00:58:13,560
Speaker 1: with Van Jefferson, I'm like, do I go with Jefferson

1132
00:58:13,640 --> 00:58:16,920
Speaker 1: or did I go with with Reynolds? Um? He went

1133
00:58:16,960 --> 00:58:19,400
Speaker 1: with Reynolds. He had thirty two hundred bucks seven point

1134
00:58:19,440 --> 00:58:21,960
Speaker 1: two percent ownership, so a little bit more ownership. He

1135
00:58:22,000 --> 00:58:25,400
Speaker 1: had three catchers for sixty five yards UM about nine

1136
00:58:25,440 --> 00:58:29,120
Speaker 1: and a half points. But again, Travis Kelsey, Tyreek Hill,

1137
00:58:29,360 --> 00:58:31,840
Speaker 1: he had that. He had that right stack with Mahomes

1138
00:58:31,880 --> 00:58:34,160
Speaker 1: to win this, and then he had the Bill's defense.

1139
00:58:35,040 --> 00:58:38,720
Speaker 1: Bill's defense was a winner. They were thirteen points better

1140
00:58:38,720 --> 00:58:41,760
Speaker 1: than anybody else on defense. I mean, tray Kon Smith's

1141
00:58:41,760 --> 00:58:44,640
Speaker 1: a home run, but that's a tough one. Bill's d

1142
00:58:44,840 --> 00:58:46,320
Speaker 1: was the one though, and it looked like this week,

1143
00:58:47,080 --> 00:58:49,800
Speaker 1: But who knew? I mentioned that league guy' man where

1144
00:58:49,800 --> 00:58:51,440
Speaker 1: you you pick guys and you can't use them a

1145
00:58:51,480 --> 00:58:53,360
Speaker 1: second time. And I've done well over two weeks. I

1146
00:58:53,360 --> 00:58:55,200
Speaker 1: think I'm in like tenth place with a hundred people

1147
00:58:55,200 --> 00:58:56,480
Speaker 1: something like that, and I still have some really good

1148
00:58:56,520 --> 00:58:59,240
Speaker 1: guys I can play. Boy had Michael Thomas, that was

1149
00:58:59,240 --> 00:59:02,080
Speaker 1: my own. I toyed with the ideas we did it

1150
00:59:02,200 --> 00:59:05,640
Speaker 1: last trying to get Michael Thomas in the lineup, and boy,

1151
00:59:05,640 --> 00:59:08,120
Speaker 1: that wouldn't have been worth it zero at a zero

1152
00:59:08,160 --> 00:59:10,400
Speaker 1: at it. He didn't look like I had a hard

1153
00:59:10,400 --> 00:59:11,760
Speaker 1: to tell him talent if he was open or not.

1154
00:59:11,880 --> 00:59:14,720
Speaker 1: I was watching him a lot um But that offense

1155
00:59:14,760 --> 00:59:18,160
Speaker 1: is rough, man, I mean, besides the Winston play, people

1156
00:59:18,160 --> 00:59:21,000
Speaker 1: can play with Steelers. I mean the st Steeler correlation

1157
00:59:21,160 --> 00:59:24,080
Speaker 1: is sort of similar. But the biggest play they had

1158
00:59:24,080 --> 00:59:26,520
Speaker 1: from scrimmage, besides the Winston play was a seventeen yard

1159
00:59:26,560 --> 00:59:29,200
Speaker 1: run by Kamara, and you know, like it was the

1160
00:59:29,200 --> 00:59:31,840
Speaker 1: Steelers can't even the Steelers can't even get that. That's

1161
00:59:31,840 --> 00:59:33,640
Speaker 1: the thing, what if you could do that once in

1162
00:59:33,680 --> 00:59:36,600
Speaker 1: a while. Because Kamara was actually not bad in that game.

1163
00:59:37,160 --> 00:59:39,920
Speaker 1: Um no, and we didn't see Kamara in any of

1164
00:59:39,920 --> 00:59:42,080
Speaker 1: those lineups, but if you look at what Kamara did

1165
00:59:42,080 --> 00:59:44,640
Speaker 1: in that game, five yards or something like that on

1166
00:59:44,680 --> 00:59:46,720
Speaker 1: the ground and caught a few balls as usual. Yeah

1167
00:59:46,760 --> 00:59:50,320
Speaker 1: he did, he did. Alvin Kamara, you know Kamara things, Um,

1168
00:59:50,400 --> 00:59:53,280
Speaker 1: you would have been perfectly eighteen for eighty five rushing

1169
00:59:53,600 --> 00:59:55,600
Speaker 1: and he caught three passes for twenty yards, so you're

1170
00:59:55,600 --> 00:59:57,920
Speaker 1: looking at eight five eleven. He had fourteen and a

1171
00:59:57,960 --> 01:00:00,840
Speaker 1: half point game. I mean, I remember he was expensive.

1172
01:00:00,960 --> 01:00:03,360
Speaker 1: But everyone looks at the bucks d and like that's

1173
01:00:03,360 --> 01:00:05,880
Speaker 1: the best runde in the league. Okay, but it's not

1174
01:00:05,920 --> 01:00:08,680
Speaker 1: the five Bears. I mean, Kamara is still gonna get

1175
01:00:08,720 --> 01:00:10,320
Speaker 1: his and that offense is going to give him the

1176
01:00:10,320 --> 01:00:12,880
Speaker 1: ball no matter what. Now, next week, when we do this,

1177
01:00:12,880 --> 01:00:15,440
Speaker 1: we only have two games to pick from four teams.

1178
01:00:15,480 --> 01:00:18,360
Speaker 1: Now it gets tighter. So now you're you know, you

1179
01:00:18,440 --> 01:00:21,000
Speaker 1: really have to find some of those Just think of

1180
01:00:21,000 --> 01:00:23,320
Speaker 1: the AFC running backs. Some of those hidden gems you

1181
01:00:23,360 --> 01:00:26,200
Speaker 1: getta find, you know, d is a j. Dillon or

1182
01:00:26,320 --> 01:00:30,600
Speaker 1: Jamal Williams or that Leonard Fournette Ronald Jones. I mean

1183
01:00:30,600 --> 01:00:33,640
Speaker 1: Fournette had seven team for sixty three. Jones had thirteam

1184
01:00:33,640 --> 01:00:35,880
Speaker 1: for sixty two. The difference was is four. Nette was

1185
01:00:35,920 --> 01:00:38,560
Speaker 1: a big factor in the passing game. Yeah, he he

1186
01:00:39,000 --> 01:00:40,800
Speaker 1: is a factor that he had five catchers for forty

1187
01:00:40,840 --> 01:00:43,520
Speaker 1: four yards and a touchdown which they picked on the

1188
01:00:43,600 --> 01:00:46,320
Speaker 1: on the Saints inside linebackers all day long. I mean,

1189
01:00:46,600 --> 01:00:48,960
Speaker 1: you think about the four backfields that are gonna play Sunday,

1190
01:00:49,000 --> 01:00:52,000
Speaker 1: though Aaron Jones is the only one that's like a

1191
01:00:52,080 --> 01:00:55,840
Speaker 1: regular fantasy starter this year. Four nets kind of turning

1192
01:00:55,840 --> 01:00:58,560
Speaker 1: into that. But they're gonna be in every line up, right,

1193
01:00:58,640 --> 01:01:00,680
Speaker 1: So you gotta you gotta find that that other guy.

1194
01:01:00,720 --> 01:01:03,720
Speaker 1: Are you willing to take a Signaltary or one of

1195
01:01:03,760 --> 01:01:06,720
Speaker 1: the Chiefs or bet On left Bell or maybe Edwards

1196
01:01:06,760 --> 01:01:09,720
Speaker 1: Hilaria comes back? But are you willing to put won't

1197
01:01:09,760 --> 01:01:11,600
Speaker 1: be cheap now, he won't be cheap at all. He'll

1198
01:01:11,640 --> 01:01:15,200
Speaker 1: be right up there. Yeah, you know, Aaron Jones stands

1199
01:01:15,200 --> 01:01:18,280
Speaker 1: alone and everyone's gonna want him, and he's to be expensive. Yeah,

1200
01:01:18,520 --> 01:01:20,600
Speaker 1: interesting and be fun. We'll do that later in a week.

1201
01:01:20,640 --> 01:01:23,320
Speaker 1: But that was what happened to us this weekend, at

1202
01:01:23,400 --> 01:01:26,040
Speaker 1: least because I entered both those lineups and payer I

1203
01:01:26,080 --> 01:01:28,720
Speaker 1: came out a little bit ahead this week. Um. I

1204
01:01:28,760 --> 01:01:30,800
Speaker 1: expect a lot more points around the league though, and

1205
01:01:31,120 --> 01:01:34,880
Speaker 1: matter you know, way better quarterback fantasy production I didn't

1206
01:01:34,920 --> 01:01:39,640
Speaker 1: foresee that Ravens Bills game being that low scoring. Um,

1207
01:01:40,360 --> 01:01:42,200
Speaker 1: even the other games. I mean, none of the quarterbacks,

1208
01:01:42,200 --> 01:01:44,560
Speaker 1: none of the quarterbacks really. Yeah, and you whether had

1209
01:01:44,560 --> 01:01:45,840
Speaker 1: a little to do with it, but even the guys

1210
01:01:45,840 --> 01:01:48,960
Speaker 1: you run didn't really right too much of that. Alan

1211
01:01:48,960 --> 01:01:52,440
Speaker 1: and Lamar didn't do much. You know. Even Brady was fine,

1212
01:01:52,680 --> 01:01:56,680
Speaker 1: but yds passing in two touchdowns. He did run for

1213
01:01:56,680 --> 01:01:59,520
Speaker 1: a score that was kind of oh yeah, so that helped,

1214
01:01:59,560 --> 01:02:02,440
Speaker 1: but still not what you're looking for. Not a lot

1215
01:02:02,480 --> 01:02:04,720
Speaker 1: of fans. We didn't see any Tom Brady lineups on

1216
01:02:04,800 --> 01:02:08,480
Speaker 1: their good point. Yeah, so he is. Matt Williamson. I'm

1217
01:02:08,520 --> 01:02:10,840
Speaker 1: Dale Lolly. You're listening to the Drive here on Steelers

1218
01:02:10,920 --> 01:02:13,600
Speaker 1: Nation Radio. We haven't talked about the news from over

1219
01:02:13,640 --> 01:02:16,480
Speaker 1: the weekend. We'll do that when we come back right

1220
01:02:16,480 --> 01:02:22,920
Speaker 1: after this your tunes about drive on Home of the

1221
01:02:23,000 --> 01:03:03,720
Speaker 1: Black and Goal Steelers Nation Radio. We are on that

1222
01:03:03,880 --> 01:03:08,000
Speaker 1: we haven't talked at all about this, but um, over

1223
01:03:08,040 --> 01:03:12,360
Speaker 1: the weekend reports emerging that the Steelers are likely to

1224
01:03:12,440 --> 01:03:15,840
Speaker 1: hire Matt Canada as their offensive coordinator. We threw some

1225
01:03:15,960 --> 01:03:18,280
Speaker 1: names out there last week of guys that maybe they

1226
01:03:18,640 --> 01:03:22,080
Speaker 1: might want to talk to it. They haven't announced anything yet,

1227
01:03:22,400 --> 01:03:24,280
Speaker 1: so nothing is official yet. I wonder if they're waiting

1228
01:03:24,320 --> 01:03:28,880
Speaker 1: until they hire an offensive line coach as well. Quack, Yeah,

1229
01:03:29,000 --> 01:03:32,000
Speaker 1: make some of those moves at one time. I don't.

1230
01:03:32,000 --> 01:03:34,160
Speaker 1: I mean, there's no there's no rush to announce this.

1231
01:03:34,240 --> 01:03:36,200
Speaker 1: That's the big thing. There's the rules of how you

1232
01:03:36,240 --> 01:03:38,160
Speaker 1: have to do it or whatever. I mean, I'm sure

1233
01:03:38,200 --> 01:03:40,480
Speaker 1: Canada knows he's the guy, and they know he's the guy,

1234
01:03:40,520 --> 01:03:42,240
Speaker 1: but they don't have to make it official yet. I mean,

1235
01:03:43,400 --> 01:03:46,000
Speaker 1: one press conference will probably handle it all. And they're

1236
01:03:46,040 --> 01:03:48,240
Speaker 1: having these talks for the other position coaches as well,

1237
01:03:48,280 --> 01:03:50,920
Speaker 1: which they're really important, you know, like um, adding a

1238
01:03:50,920 --> 01:03:53,160
Speaker 1: new quarterback coaches exciting, you know, I mean like that

1239
01:03:53,720 --> 01:03:58,600
Speaker 1: when they added Matt Canada last year, Um, everybody thought, Okay,

1240
01:03:58,600 --> 01:04:00,920
Speaker 1: they're doing this with the idea. You know, he's the

1241
01:04:01,000 --> 01:04:04,920
Speaker 1: he's the coordinator. I'm waiting where he's now. It looks

1242
01:04:04,920 --> 01:04:07,640
Speaker 1: like they're going to do that and people are complaining

1243
01:04:07,640 --> 01:04:11,800
Speaker 1: about it. Yeah, it's as we talked about last week.

1244
01:04:11,880 --> 01:04:14,600
Speaker 1: I don't know Matt Canada well enough to know whether

1245
01:04:14,640 --> 01:04:17,760
Speaker 1: he's a good offensive Most years, you know, how much

1246
01:04:17,800 --> 01:04:19,680
Speaker 1: better this year? You don't write I just I just

1247
01:04:19,720 --> 01:04:21,960
Speaker 1: don't know him. Um I can look at what he

1248
01:04:22,000 --> 01:04:23,840
Speaker 1: did in college and say, Okay, he did some good

1249
01:04:23,840 --> 01:04:26,080
Speaker 1: things in college, but will that work in the NFL.

1250
01:04:26,280 --> 01:04:28,840
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know my take on it.

1251
01:04:28,840 --> 01:04:31,080
Speaker 1: It's kind of a long one. Is a year ago

1252
01:04:31,080 --> 01:04:34,400
Speaker 1: when they hired him, I went, wow, this is great

1253
01:04:34,600 --> 01:04:38,920
Speaker 1: because I've been complaining for years, and frankly, I probably

1254
01:04:38,960 --> 01:04:41,080
Speaker 1: didn't have a lot of room to complain because their

1255
01:04:41,080 --> 01:04:42,960
Speaker 1: offenses were really good and they had Antonio Brown and

1256
01:04:43,040 --> 01:04:46,280
Speaker 1: Labell and Ben was younger and better. That they need

1257
01:04:46,320 --> 01:04:48,080
Speaker 1: to do more play action, They need to be more

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01:04:48,160 --> 01:04:51,280
Speaker 1: scheme based, they need to use more motion. So they

1259
01:04:51,360 --> 01:04:54,080
Speaker 1: recognize that they hired this guy. But I've never heard

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01:04:54,080 --> 01:04:58,360
Speaker 1: of COVID back then. And you know, you were at

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01:04:58,760 --> 01:05:03,160
Speaker 1: camp at Hinesfield and you said they implemented a lot

1262
01:05:03,160 --> 01:05:06,760
Speaker 1: of it back then. But that's different than leaning on

1263
01:05:06,840 --> 01:05:09,960
Speaker 1: it on game day week after week. It's not They

1264
01:05:10,000 --> 01:05:12,960
Speaker 1: weren't running the quote unquote Matt Canada offense. They were

1265
01:05:13,000 --> 01:05:16,680
Speaker 1: running the Steelers offense, which was which was a carryover

1266
01:05:16,760 --> 01:05:21,440
Speaker 1: from Bruce Arians to Todd Haley to Randy Feckner, and

1267
01:05:21,480 --> 01:05:23,880
Speaker 1: now you were adding some of the some of the

1268
01:05:23,960 --> 01:05:28,560
Speaker 1: things that we're in that Canada offensive scheme, some of

1269
01:05:28,600 --> 01:05:31,520
Speaker 1: the pre snap motions and those kind of things wrinkles.

1270
01:05:31,600 --> 01:05:35,640
Speaker 1: But it wasn't the basis of their offense exactly. So

1271
01:05:36,400 --> 01:05:39,040
Speaker 1: once they you know, maybe again, they had four team

1272
01:05:39,080 --> 01:05:43,840
Speaker 1: padded practices before the season starts, no preseason games, so

1273
01:05:43,880 --> 01:05:46,439
Speaker 1: they had some some facets of that, and you saw

1274
01:05:46,440 --> 01:05:48,160
Speaker 1: it the first month. You saw it the first month,

1275
01:05:48,240 --> 01:05:51,400
Speaker 1: and then you saw teams adjust to it and started, Okay,

1276
01:05:51,400 --> 01:05:53,960
Speaker 1: those jet sweeps that were working early didn't work so

1277
01:05:54,000 --> 01:05:57,200
Speaker 1: well anymore. I didn't feel like it was a failure though. No,

1278
01:05:57,320 --> 01:06:00,240
Speaker 1: I didn't either, but I think teams did it us

1279
01:06:00,280 --> 01:06:02,640
Speaker 1: to it and in the big plays, the places that

1280
01:06:02,680 --> 01:06:06,240
Speaker 1: they were getting weren't what they were. You know, they

1281
01:06:06,240 --> 01:06:08,320
Speaker 1: had a Ray Ray McCloud fifty nine yard run off

1282
01:06:08,360 --> 01:06:10,280
Speaker 1: of off of a jet sweep, but they didn't get

1283
01:06:10,280 --> 01:06:12,880
Speaker 1: anything like that after that. They probably thought, and I

1284
01:06:12,920 --> 01:06:14,919
Speaker 1: don't know this, but I probably thought, we don't feel

1285
01:06:14,960 --> 01:06:17,920
Speaker 1: comfortable enough with this stuff. We haven't repped it. Um.

1286
01:06:18,000 --> 01:06:21,240
Speaker 1: There were also some snaff foods there. True. Uh, you know,

1287
01:06:21,240 --> 01:06:23,560
Speaker 1: I can remember I can recall early in a game.

1288
01:06:23,680 --> 01:06:26,680
Speaker 1: I can't remember it was on the road where Roethlisberger

1289
01:06:26,720 --> 01:06:28,400
Speaker 1: put one on the ground trying to when they were

1290
01:06:28,400 --> 01:06:30,160
Speaker 1: trying to do some of the stuff. I think it's

1291
01:06:30,160 --> 01:06:32,360
Speaker 1: a hand off the Chase claypol and claypol mishandled it

1292
01:06:32,360 --> 01:06:34,920
Speaker 1: and they were deep in their own end and it

1293
01:06:34,960 --> 01:06:37,440
Speaker 1: cost them some yardage there. Luckily he fell on the football.

1294
01:06:37,600 --> 01:06:40,640
Speaker 1: All that ball handling stuff and all these offenses Baltimore whatnot,

1295
01:06:40,600 --> 01:06:43,280
Speaker 1: it can't be overlooked. That's something you need to work

1296
01:06:43,320 --> 01:06:46,040
Speaker 1: on and work on a lot, a lot. But if

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01:06:46,080 --> 01:06:51,400
Speaker 1: you're preparing during the week to go play Houston, you

1298
01:06:51,440 --> 01:06:53,360
Speaker 1: don't have time to do that. It has happened in

1299
01:06:53,360 --> 01:06:56,680
Speaker 1: the free season to be comfortable going into the scene.

1300
01:06:56,720 --> 01:06:59,720
Speaker 1: So that was one of that's one of the complaints. Yeah,

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01:06:59,720 --> 01:07:02,640
Speaker 1: that's of the complaints that I'm getting here is that, well,

1302
01:07:02,680 --> 01:07:05,520
Speaker 1: the Steelers they didn't use that stuff. And I maybe

1303
01:07:07,120 --> 01:07:09,880
Speaker 1: there's some of it that Brothlisberger didn't like maybe, and

1304
01:07:09,960 --> 01:07:12,040
Speaker 1: some of it that he can't he's not capable of doing.

1305
01:07:12,800 --> 01:07:16,040
Speaker 1: But the pre snap motion and stuff, that's all Matt

1306
01:07:16,120 --> 01:07:18,920
Speaker 1: Cannada's offense. And I've looked, I've looked at some different films.

1307
01:07:19,080 --> 01:07:22,480
Speaker 1: He's not doing anything super different here. All he's doing

1308
01:07:22,520 --> 01:07:25,920
Speaker 1: is moving guys around pre snap, and they're still getting

1309
01:07:25,920 --> 01:07:30,360
Speaker 1: in this into position and running regular plays. The beauty

1310
01:07:30,360 --> 01:07:34,440
Speaker 1: of the pre snap stuff is their indicators. Like the

1311
01:07:34,520 --> 01:07:36,880
Speaker 1: league is using it a lot. I read this morning.

1312
01:07:37,240 --> 01:07:40,680
Speaker 1: Green Bay Youth preached that motion on the plays yesterday

1313
01:07:41,160 --> 01:07:43,320
Speaker 1: and they're the best offensive league ever taken. That's what

1314
01:07:43,360 --> 01:07:46,880
Speaker 1: they do every week. But but it's window dressing. You

1315
01:07:46,920 --> 01:07:49,880
Speaker 1: can you can do. You can line guys up, you know,

1316
01:07:49,920 --> 01:07:54,640
Speaker 1: move them around and run the same play three straight

1317
01:07:54,720 --> 01:07:57,960
Speaker 1: times because the defense is going, Okay, this guy's there.

1318
01:07:58,040 --> 01:08:00,520
Speaker 1: You're you're making a defense think a little bit absolutely,

1319
01:08:00,560 --> 01:08:02,240
Speaker 1: and they don't have time to adjuse goes back to

1320
01:08:02,280 --> 01:08:05,440
Speaker 1: what we were talking about last week with the Steelers

1321
01:08:05,520 --> 01:08:09,000
Speaker 1: getting linebackers matched up on on on on slot receivers.

1322
01:08:10,320 --> 01:08:12,439
Speaker 1: When you break the huddle with ten seconds left, there's

1323
01:08:12,440 --> 01:08:15,080
Speaker 1: not time to adjust. If you're moving guys around pre snap,

1324
01:08:15,120 --> 01:08:17,760
Speaker 1: there's not time to adjust. And there's a lot of

1325
01:08:17,760 --> 01:08:20,320
Speaker 1: ways the skin of cat like Peyton Manning hated it.

1326
01:08:20,520 --> 01:08:23,320
Speaker 1: He wanted Marvin on the right paying on the left

1327
01:08:23,320 --> 01:08:24,920
Speaker 1: so he could figure out he would sit there and

1328
01:08:24,920 --> 01:08:26,839
Speaker 1: see what the defense are doing. He'd sit their static

1329
01:08:26,840 --> 01:08:29,519
Speaker 1: as can be and read all their faces and go great.

1330
01:08:29,560 --> 01:08:33,880
Speaker 1: It works phenomenal. But not that that was wrong. But

1331
01:08:33,960 --> 01:08:36,519
Speaker 1: the league has changed and it's something free that they

1332
01:08:36,600 --> 01:08:38,479
Speaker 1: give you. If you want to take this piece of

1333
01:08:38,520 --> 01:08:42,360
Speaker 1: advice or this this one more tool, why not use it?

1334
01:08:42,400 --> 01:08:44,320
Speaker 1: I mean, and we use the example. You take a

1335
01:08:44,360 --> 01:08:46,840
Speaker 1: fullback and your motion them outside the numbers and the

1336
01:08:46,960 --> 01:08:49,479
Speaker 1: corners lined up over him. You're getting zone. You know,

1337
01:08:49,520 --> 01:08:52,160
Speaker 1: if a linebacker goes with them, you're probably getting man

1338
01:08:52,200 --> 01:08:54,280
Speaker 1: across the board, and then you can just motion them

1339
01:08:54,280 --> 01:08:56,840
Speaker 1: back into the backfil if you learn something, you know

1340
01:08:56,960 --> 01:08:59,800
Speaker 1: right let alone the jet sweeps and the orbit mo

1341
01:09:00,000 --> 01:09:03,840
Speaker 1: Shan and Tyree Hill screaming across the you know, behind

1342
01:09:03,880 --> 01:09:06,200
Speaker 1: the line of scrimmage, and maybe we'll see some of

1343
01:09:06,200 --> 01:09:09,240
Speaker 1: those things. But one of my takes with the Canada

1344
01:09:09,360 --> 01:09:12,839
Speaker 1: hiring is part of it worries me. But it feels

1345
01:09:12,880 --> 01:09:17,559
Speaker 1: like this is a nice transition for Ben for this year,

1346
01:09:18,400 --> 01:09:21,439
Speaker 1: with the potential for a much different offense two years

1347
01:09:21,479 --> 01:09:23,760
Speaker 1: from that. I'll say this as well. I thought he

1348
01:09:23,800 --> 01:09:26,320
Speaker 1: did good things with Mason Rudolph this year, just watching

1349
01:09:26,320 --> 01:09:29,479
Speaker 1: the watching the practices. He was active with the with

1350
01:09:29,560 --> 01:09:33,120
Speaker 1: the young quarterbacks. He was active stuff. Yeah, Um, you know,

1351
01:09:33,200 --> 01:09:36,280
Speaker 1: so there's there's some of that there as well. So

1352
01:09:36,560 --> 01:09:38,360
Speaker 1: you know, I don't know that I I love it.

1353
01:09:38,400 --> 01:09:41,120
Speaker 1: I don't know that I hated I just don't know.

1354
01:09:41,160 --> 01:09:43,880
Speaker 1: And part of me worries. Are you on the fence.

1355
01:09:43,880 --> 01:09:46,200
Speaker 1: So you're trying to play two sides of the offense

1356
01:09:46,240 --> 01:09:49,920
Speaker 1: for today two one versus the offensive tomorrow with a

1357
01:09:49,960 --> 01:09:53,800
Speaker 1: different quarterback? Is it going to be a messy Frankenstein

1358
01:09:53,920 --> 01:09:57,080
Speaker 1: offense of things all sewn together this massive body part.

1359
01:09:57,120 --> 01:09:59,920
Speaker 1: You know, I just know that there's this you don't have.

1360
01:10:00,160 --> 01:10:02,840
Speaker 1: You don't have to change your terminology that's huge, which

1361
01:10:02,880 --> 01:10:05,439
Speaker 1: is huge, you know. You now you're just adding again

1362
01:10:05,479 --> 01:10:08,479
Speaker 1: to what you already had. Is opposed to bring in Um,

1363
01:10:08,520 --> 01:10:09,840
Speaker 1: you know one of the guys that we talked about

1364
01:10:09,920 --> 01:10:11,240
Speaker 1: last week where they come in and they want to

1365
01:10:11,320 --> 01:10:13,519
Speaker 1: change what we're gonna go. We're gonna call everything different,

1366
01:10:13,600 --> 01:10:15,519
Speaker 1: you know, and then everybody has to learn around your

1367
01:10:15,560 --> 01:10:19,439
Speaker 1: new offensive coordinator. I don't know that's the drawback of

1368
01:10:19,520 --> 01:10:22,920
Speaker 1: hiring an offensive coordinator with an order quarterback. Absolutely, that's

1369
01:10:22,920 --> 01:10:25,240
Speaker 1: a hard thing to deal with. But to your point,

1370
01:10:25,280 --> 01:10:29,400
Speaker 1: that's why, that's why Tampa Bay made Tom Brady learned

1371
01:10:29,400 --> 01:10:31,120
Speaker 1: their offense not the other way around. And it took

1372
01:10:31,320 --> 01:10:33,200
Speaker 1: and it was hard. It took a while, and it

1373
01:10:33,240 --> 01:10:34,759
Speaker 1: took a while, you know, and then it finally started

1374
01:10:34,760 --> 01:10:37,639
Speaker 1: work itself out. But there's two huge hires, as you mentioned,

1375
01:10:37,680 --> 01:10:39,760
Speaker 1: still to come. There's yeah, I mean, you're gonna have

1376
01:10:39,840 --> 01:10:43,519
Speaker 1: a quarterback slash passing game coordinator type dude. And you're

1377
01:10:43,520 --> 01:10:46,720
Speaker 1: gonna have a running or offensive line slash running game

1378
01:10:46,760 --> 01:10:50,320
Speaker 1: coordinator type guy that you'll probably run a lot of

1379
01:10:50,320 --> 01:10:54,000
Speaker 1: the same plays. But the new old line coach might

1380
01:10:54,040 --> 01:10:57,839
Speaker 1: be like, if you you know, if your guard changes

1381
01:10:57,920 --> 01:11:00,160
Speaker 1: his split by a foot to the left, you can

1382
01:11:00,200 --> 01:11:01,960
Speaker 1: reach him. He's yeah, we can get this or we

1383
01:11:01,960 --> 01:11:04,360
Speaker 1: can get that, you know. And it doesn't mean to

1384
01:11:04,439 --> 01:11:05,880
Speaker 1: be better, but it will be a little different and

1385
01:11:05,960 --> 01:11:08,519
Speaker 1: they'll be subtle. But those two hires are gonna be

1386
01:11:08,560 --> 01:11:10,720
Speaker 1: key too. Yeah, And I threw some names out there

1387
01:11:10,760 --> 01:11:14,720
Speaker 1: today of guys that I would look at or talk to. Um.

1388
01:11:14,960 --> 01:11:17,400
Speaker 1: First on that list will be Doug Moron. I think

1389
01:11:17,400 --> 01:11:19,960
Speaker 1: he screams to the top of list. I'm not saying

1390
01:11:19,960 --> 01:11:23,360
Speaker 1: he's munchacked, but he's a former head coach who's been there,

1391
01:11:23,400 --> 01:11:26,280
Speaker 1: done it that's overqualified for the job, like when you hired.

1392
01:11:26,479 --> 01:11:29,479
Speaker 1: He's been an offensive coordinates. He's followed the same path

1393
01:11:29,600 --> 01:11:33,040
Speaker 1: to becoming a head coach to Munchack in different organizations.

1394
01:11:33,080 --> 01:11:36,160
Speaker 1: But he's been with the Saints, Jets and Jaguars and

1395
01:11:36,280 --> 01:11:38,479
Speaker 1: rose through the ranks of the Jaguars to become their

1396
01:11:38,520 --> 01:11:41,479
Speaker 1: head coach. Um. They did some good things under him.

1397
01:11:41,800 --> 01:11:45,400
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, you know that Jacks aligns not super talented,

1398
01:11:45,439 --> 01:11:48,400
Speaker 1: but it it hasn't been bad either. Um. I wouldn't mind

1399
01:11:48,439 --> 01:11:51,519
Speaker 1: them adding a former head coach to the staff in

1400
01:11:51,640 --> 01:11:55,679
Speaker 1: some capacity. Yeah, somebody who's who's uh, who's been in charge?

1401
01:11:55,760 --> 01:11:57,599
Speaker 1: I hate, I hate to say the adult in the room,

1402
01:11:57,840 --> 01:12:00,800
Speaker 1: but somebody who's got some experience in the NFL who

1403
01:12:00,800 --> 01:12:03,599
Speaker 1: can kind of Tomlin's peer ye, that he's coached against.

1404
01:12:03,720 --> 01:12:08,360
Speaker 1: And you know, because that offensive staff is young with

1405
01:12:08,479 --> 01:12:10,439
Speaker 1: James Daniel retiring as well, they need to find a

1406
01:12:10,439 --> 01:12:14,599
Speaker 1: tight end coach as well. That's that's um. But somebody

1407
01:12:14,600 --> 01:12:18,960
Speaker 1: that's called that's game managed and you know, just another

1408
01:12:19,040 --> 01:12:21,400
Speaker 1: voice in the room that that you know, Hey, somebody

1409
01:12:21,400 --> 01:12:24,760
Speaker 1: that again Tomlin can lean on, Yeah, coach out here

1410
01:12:24,840 --> 01:12:28,040
Speaker 1: or you know, think about coming up those kind of things. Um,

1411
01:12:28,240 --> 01:12:30,519
Speaker 1: so I think he would be a very solid higher.

1412
01:12:31,160 --> 01:12:33,920
Speaker 1: Another guy who's been around for a long time, uh

1413
01:12:34,040 --> 01:12:37,519
Speaker 1: is James camp James Campon who's the offensive line coach

1414
01:12:38,000 --> 01:12:41,760
Speaker 1: for the Chargers this year, but from two thousand seven

1415
01:12:41,760 --> 01:12:44,400
Speaker 1: to two thousand seventeen, actually two thousand and eighteen, he

1416
01:12:44,439 --> 01:12:47,920
Speaker 1: was with the Packers. Um. Yeah, and it's been that's

1417
01:12:47,920 --> 01:12:50,400
Speaker 1: been a good offensive line. Obviously, he's coached in a

1418
01:12:50,439 --> 01:12:53,519
Speaker 1: Super Bowl. Um, coaching the log games. He was their

1419
01:12:53,560 --> 01:12:57,080
Speaker 1: Packers run game coordinator in eighteen. Um, so he has

1420
01:12:57,120 --> 01:13:02,160
Speaker 1: some play calling abilities. He was also the assistant head

1421
01:13:02,200 --> 01:13:05,800
Speaker 1: coach offensive line coach under Freddie Kitchens in Cleveland last year.

1422
01:13:06,840 --> 01:13:09,519
Speaker 1: Um so there's some again some knowledge of the of

1423
01:13:09,560 --> 01:13:12,000
Speaker 1: the a f C North. Um, you know what he

1424
01:13:12,080 --> 01:13:15,439
Speaker 1: planned against the Ravens before. Yeah, Now that depends on

1425
01:13:15,520 --> 01:13:20,519
Speaker 1: you know that all are the staffing with the Chargers

1426
01:13:20,560 --> 01:13:23,920
Speaker 1: got fired, or at least there's there's some possibility that

1427
01:13:23,960 --> 01:13:25,720
Speaker 1: they make it fired and he's got he's still under

1428
01:13:25,760 --> 01:13:27,760
Speaker 1: contract with the Chargers. The Chargers may say, hey, we

1429
01:13:27,800 --> 01:13:30,240
Speaker 1: like this guy. Tell the new can tell them the

1430
01:13:30,520 --> 01:13:32,960
Speaker 1: new head coach, Hey we're gonna keep this guy. Is

1431
01:13:33,000 --> 01:13:35,559
Speaker 1: your offensive line coach, give you a veteran. So he's

1432
01:13:35,560 --> 01:13:40,600
Speaker 1: not on the market yet yet, but that's a possibility. Um.

1433
01:13:40,600 --> 01:13:43,479
Speaker 1: Harry high Stand is another guy that that I would

1434
01:13:43,479 --> 01:13:45,960
Speaker 1: look at. He was the Bears offensive line coach from

1435
01:13:46,000 --> 01:13:49,040
Speaker 1: two thousand five through two thousand nine, so I've been

1436
01:13:49,080 --> 01:13:51,400
Speaker 1: to a Super Bowl with them, of course, coach under

1437
01:13:51,439 --> 01:13:56,720
Speaker 1: Lovey Smith there, um and then again in uh in

1438
01:13:56,760 --> 01:13:59,840
Speaker 1: between there he was. He was the offensive line coach

1439
01:14:00,120 --> 01:14:03,960
Speaker 1: Notre Dame. They've pumped out some guys Zack Martin, Ronnie Stanley,

1440
01:14:04,040 --> 01:14:07,000
Speaker 1: Nick Martin, Quentin Nelson, and Mike McGlinchey, who are all

1441
01:14:07,120 --> 01:14:10,040
Speaker 1: when they came out looked at his NFL ready prospects. Yeah,

1442
01:14:10,120 --> 01:14:12,840
Speaker 1: let's say that's of course they recruit well, but their

1443
01:14:12,840 --> 01:14:15,320
Speaker 1: old line play is really stepped up in the last

1444
01:14:15,439 --> 01:14:17,160
Speaker 1: every one of those guys that when they when they

1445
01:14:17,200 --> 01:14:19,080
Speaker 1: came out, well, he's ready for the NFL. He's ready

1446
01:14:19,120 --> 01:14:22,200
Speaker 1: to step into starting out right now. And that goes

1447
01:14:22,240 --> 01:14:26,240
Speaker 1: back to the to the offensive line coach. Yeah, that's interesting. Um,

1448
01:14:26,320 --> 01:14:28,160
Speaker 1: So he would be a guy that you know, I

1449
01:14:28,160 --> 01:14:30,559
Speaker 1: think would do a good job there and didn't work

1450
01:14:30,600 --> 01:14:33,200
Speaker 1: this year in the NFL. He's he's like sixty two,

1451
01:14:33,240 --> 01:14:37,559
Speaker 1: so he's not not young, but he's not old. Yeah. Uh.

1452
01:14:37,600 --> 01:14:40,879
Speaker 1: And then the final one would be Hal Hunter Jr. Um.

1453
01:14:40,960 --> 01:14:43,200
Speaker 1: He's got some Steeler ties. His dad coached here from

1454
01:14:43,960 --> 01:14:46,880
Speaker 1: to night eight on the offensive line, so he coached

1455
01:14:46,920 --> 01:14:50,320
Speaker 1: a tounch of wolf. Um has been an assistant all

1456
01:14:50,320 --> 01:14:53,040
Speaker 1: over the place at pitt Acer and Vanderbilt, Indiana, North

1457
01:14:53,080 --> 01:14:57,240
Speaker 1: Carolina l s u uh coach with the Chargers from

1458
01:14:57,280 --> 01:14:59,200
Speaker 1: two thousand and six to two thousand eleven, was their

1459
01:14:59,200 --> 01:15:04,280
Speaker 1: offensive coordinate when that before that staff got fired Coat. Yeah.

1460
01:15:04,479 --> 01:15:09,080
Speaker 1: Um has coached fifteen with the Colts and then spend

1461
01:15:09,080 --> 01:15:12,360
Speaker 1: a season with the Browns before the previous two years

1462
01:15:13,560 --> 01:15:16,600
Speaker 1: nineteen with the Giants. So I mean again, there's a

1463
01:15:16,600 --> 01:15:20,320
Speaker 1: guy there with some record, you know, track record, has

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Speaker 1: been in the league. Um as coach at the college ranks,

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01:15:24,800 --> 01:15:27,599
Speaker 1: has some Steeler ties there, so they know his dad

1466
01:15:27,640 --> 01:15:31,400
Speaker 1: was originally from Cannonsburg. So you also mentioned off the

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01:15:31,479 --> 01:15:34,639
Speaker 1: air that Maron has some tounch of Wolf ties to right. Yeah,

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01:15:34,720 --> 01:15:37,080
Speaker 1: Maron Maron spent a season in training camp with the

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01:15:37,120 --> 01:15:40,479
Speaker 1: Steelers back in the late eighties as a player. Uh,

1470
01:15:40,520 --> 01:15:43,559
Speaker 1: he's tight with tounch of Wolf as well, they've gone down.

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01:15:43,600 --> 01:15:46,680
Speaker 1: I know. I think maybe one or both of them

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01:15:46,680 --> 01:15:49,040
Speaker 1: have gone down over the years and worked with Maron's

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01:15:49,080 --> 01:15:52,280
Speaker 1: offensive linemen. He was he was the head coach of Syracuse,

1474
01:15:52,360 --> 01:15:55,160
Speaker 1: so there was some time you know, with Wolf as well,

1475
01:15:55,240 --> 01:15:58,000
Speaker 1: So there is some familiarity there and it wouldn't surprise

1476
01:15:58,040 --> 01:16:01,479
Speaker 1: me if that's uh. I mean, he's obviously the name

1477
01:16:01,560 --> 01:16:04,040
Speaker 1: people know of the ones you listed, and like we

1478
01:16:04,120 --> 01:16:06,960
Speaker 1: mentioned with mun Chak and former head coach, I would

1479
01:16:06,960 --> 01:16:09,639
Speaker 1: love to see that. But again, I have a hard

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01:16:09,640 --> 01:16:12,240
Speaker 1: time comment and on assistance that that's the thing. You know,

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01:16:12,280 --> 01:16:15,080
Speaker 1: I'm diving into offensive line coaches last last night while

1482
01:16:15,080 --> 01:16:17,080
Speaker 1: I'm watching the game, and I'm just trying to figure out, Okay,

1483
01:16:17,080 --> 01:16:20,200
Speaker 1: who are some guys out there who are available. I

1484
01:16:20,240 --> 01:16:22,599
Speaker 1: don't again, I don't want to a guy who's coming

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01:16:22,640 --> 01:16:26,160
Speaker 1: up from college necessarily, that doesn't appeal to me. But

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01:16:26,240 --> 01:16:29,400
Speaker 1: there's also kind of like Surrett was, and I know

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01:16:29,439 --> 01:16:32,680
Speaker 1: people don't love Surrette now because whatever, But there's a

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01:16:32,720 --> 01:16:36,559
Speaker 1: lot of assistant old line coaches that are ready that

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01:16:36,680 --> 01:16:39,680
Speaker 1: we wouldn't know, right, Yeah, I mean I have no

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01:16:39,840 --> 01:16:42,559
Speaker 1: I mean Adrian Adrian Clem has been the Steelers assistant

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01:16:42,600 --> 01:16:45,439
Speaker 1: offensive line coach the last a couple of years and

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01:16:45,479 --> 01:16:47,599
Speaker 1: played in the league. I mean, it's not like he's

1493
01:16:47,600 --> 01:16:51,120
Speaker 1: a you know, an unknown commodity. Um. I don't know

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01:16:51,200 --> 01:16:53,919
Speaker 1: that he's ready to step up and be the offensive

1495
01:16:53,920 --> 01:16:55,519
Speaker 1: line coach. I don't know that he you know, maybe

1496
01:16:55,560 --> 01:16:57,960
Speaker 1: he is. I don't know. It's a hard thing. I

1497
01:16:58,040 --> 01:17:00,520
Speaker 1: just don't know. And maybe you get him a new assistant.

1498
01:17:00,560 --> 01:17:04,000
Speaker 1: But if you want a veteran guy, that's not a

1499
01:17:04,040 --> 01:17:07,160
Speaker 1: bad list to start. Some of the offensive coordinator names

1500
01:17:07,160 --> 01:17:10,360
Speaker 1: we've we mentioned, Caldwell in particular, really comes to mind.

1501
01:17:10,840 --> 01:17:14,080
Speaker 1: Could you see him being the Steelers quarterback coach slash

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01:17:14,240 --> 01:17:16,320
Speaker 1: assistant head coach, you know, like some kind of title

1503
01:17:16,400 --> 01:17:19,240
Speaker 1: like that. Well, the interesting thing with that is going

1504
01:17:19,280 --> 01:17:22,400
Speaker 1: to be, first of all, John Mitchell's already their assistant

1505
01:17:22,400 --> 01:17:24,680
Speaker 1: head coach, So how many assistant head coaches are you

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01:17:24,680 --> 01:17:26,439
Speaker 1: gonna have? And really that's just a title to get

1507
01:17:26,439 --> 01:17:30,160
Speaker 1: the money. Yeah, and it also allows you too Then

1508
01:17:30,800 --> 01:17:33,720
Speaker 1: if somebody comes knocking with an offensive coordinator job or

1509
01:17:33,720 --> 01:17:35,719
Speaker 1: something like that, you can say, no, he's assistant head coach.

1510
01:17:35,960 --> 01:17:38,240
Speaker 1: That's a that's a step backwards. The Steelers could do

1511
01:17:38,240 --> 01:17:42,120
Speaker 1: that with Tarall Austin. Yeah, who's interviewing for some defensive

1512
01:17:42,160 --> 01:17:43,800
Speaker 1: coordinator jobs. They could just say, no, we're gonna make

1513
01:17:43,880 --> 01:17:46,599
Speaker 1: him assistant head coach and kind of a loophole. Yeah,

1514
01:17:46,960 --> 01:17:48,439
Speaker 1: I don't think there's a limit how many you can

1515
01:17:48,479 --> 01:17:50,960
Speaker 1: have or anything either. I don't think so either. I mean, honestly,

1516
01:17:51,080 --> 01:17:54,759
Speaker 1: every assistant coach is an assistant headguard. There. They're assisting

1517
01:17:54,760 --> 01:17:57,559
Speaker 1: the head coach coach, right exactly. I just wonder if

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01:17:57,560 --> 01:17:59,519
Speaker 1: they could find it one of those veteran names that

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01:17:59,560 --> 01:18:02,200
Speaker 1: we mentioned offensive coordinator that we were high on outside

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01:18:02,240 --> 01:18:06,439
Speaker 1: the organization, could they be the quarterbacks coach potentially? I

1521
01:18:06,439 --> 01:18:08,640
Speaker 1: mean there there's there's always you know, the potential for that,

1522
01:18:08,720 --> 01:18:11,559
Speaker 1: or you make you give them some kind of you know,

1523
01:18:12,000 --> 01:18:14,960
Speaker 1: passing game coordinator and there's something like that, or I'm

1524
01:18:14,960 --> 01:18:16,880
Speaker 1: just thinking a lot of those guys wouldn't take a

1525
01:18:16,960 --> 01:18:20,000
Speaker 1: quarterback coaching job. B OC, your boss, you know where

1526
01:18:19,840 --> 01:18:23,479
Speaker 1: you're you know, senior offensive assistant slash quarterbacks coach. That's

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01:18:23,520 --> 01:18:26,000
Speaker 1: kind of where it's going with that. That something you

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01:18:26,400 --> 01:18:28,280
Speaker 1: over some of the other people, and that's just about

1529
01:18:28,320 --> 01:18:32,320
Speaker 1: the pecking order and important. Right. Here's more, you know,

1530
01:18:32,560 --> 01:18:34,320
Speaker 1: he's in charge of the game plan more than anybody

1531
01:18:34,320 --> 01:18:36,000
Speaker 1: else in the room. I mean, he's the final say

1532
01:18:36,040 --> 01:18:38,280
Speaker 1: of you know, are the way we attack him on

1533
01:18:38,520 --> 01:18:40,960
Speaker 1: game day, and Thomas will be on the defensive side.

1534
01:18:41,479 --> 01:18:45,679
Speaker 1: Yeah so, but I think to me, the offensive line

1535
01:18:45,720 --> 01:18:48,519
Speaker 1: coaching job is just as important, if not more so.

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01:18:49,680 --> 01:18:53,400
Speaker 1: Then the offensive coordinator always think that absolutely because they're

1537
01:18:53,439 --> 01:18:57,080
Speaker 1: gonna have some young ones there. Their stars aren't no

1538
01:18:57,200 --> 01:18:59,679
Speaker 1: brain or slam dunk stars anymore, you know. I mean

1539
01:19:00,040 --> 01:19:02,400
Speaker 1: the Castro still might be, but he's your de Castro

1540
01:19:02,479 --> 01:19:05,600
Speaker 1: is your rock, um. But the rest of them have

1541
01:19:05,760 --> 01:19:09,760
Speaker 1: less than twenty games experience. Yeah, they need they need,

1542
01:19:09,840 --> 01:19:12,400
Speaker 1: you know, they don't have a ton of of NFL experience.

1543
01:19:12,400 --> 01:19:14,880
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, chokes a core force. This might

1544
01:19:14,920 --> 01:19:17,320
Speaker 1: be end up being the second most experienced guy in

1545
01:19:17,360 --> 01:19:20,439
Speaker 1: that line in terms of starting experience. Location is would

1546
01:19:20,479 --> 01:19:23,400
Speaker 1: be really important, you know, without question, so people play

1547
01:19:23,479 --> 01:19:25,800
Speaker 1: next to each other. That one's gonna be a huge

1548
01:19:25,840 --> 01:19:27,599
Speaker 1: higher And I'm gonna be interested to see who they

1549
01:19:27,680 --> 01:19:30,800
Speaker 1: hire in that job. But hopefully that comes soon. There'll

1550
01:19:30,840 --> 01:19:32,639
Speaker 1: be some other guys out there that that they look

1551
01:19:32,680 --> 01:19:36,080
Speaker 1: at beyond this list, but that would be a maybe

1552
01:19:36,120 --> 01:19:38,840
Speaker 1: some guys that are playing next weekend, could be Yeah,

1553
01:19:39,200 --> 01:19:42,000
Speaker 1: you just don't just don't know. I mean, but again,

1554
01:19:42,000 --> 01:19:44,040
Speaker 1: it's a it's an offensive line job, so you can't

1555
01:19:44,080 --> 01:19:46,280
Speaker 1: just hire, well, just hire the guy who's offensive line

1556
01:19:46,280 --> 01:19:51,240
Speaker 1: coach from so and so's team. That doesn't work. That works, right, Oh,

1557
01:19:51,240 --> 01:19:53,120
Speaker 1: they have a good line, let's go steal him. If

1558
01:19:53,160 --> 01:19:55,880
Speaker 1: somebody was bringing up well, they should have. They should

1559
01:19:55,880 --> 01:19:58,599
Speaker 1: have been ordue Eric b Enemy for the offensive coordinator job.

1560
01:19:58,840 --> 01:20:01,160
Speaker 1: He's got an offensive coordinator job. It doesn't work that way.

1561
01:20:01,200 --> 01:20:02,920
Speaker 1: You can't just say, hey, you want to become offensive

1562
01:20:02,920 --> 01:20:06,080
Speaker 1: coordinator here. He wouldn't take it, and you're all out.

1563
01:20:06,640 --> 01:20:08,880
Speaker 1: It doesn't work that. There are rules about these things,

1564
01:20:08,960 --> 01:20:12,360
Speaker 1: but he is. Matt Williamson, I'm Dale Allie. You're listening

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01:20:12,360 --> 01:20:14,679
Speaker 1: to the Drive here on Steelers Nation Radio. We're gonna

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01:20:14,680 --> 01:20:19,519
Speaker 1: take a break. We'll be back right after this. Your

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01:20:19,560 --> 01:20:23,320
Speaker 1: tunes about drive on Home of the Black and Goals

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Speaker 1: Steelers Nation Radio. Welcome back up, Dale Lally here with

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01:21:03,720 --> 01:21:06,880
Speaker 1: Matt Williamson and Matt um Just a couple of news

1570
01:21:06,960 --> 01:21:09,920
Speaker 1: and notes from around the league. Uh, the Ravens have

1571
01:21:10,000 --> 01:21:14,240
Speaker 1: cut or I'm sorry waived Robert Griffin the third Yeah, no, folks,

1572
01:21:14,240 --> 01:21:16,240
Speaker 1: the Steelers should not sign him. No, I think I

1573
01:21:16,280 --> 01:21:19,760
Speaker 1: don't know. Pay again, I think he's Yeah, he looked done. Um,

1574
01:21:19,760 --> 01:21:24,519
Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes in the concussion protocol, like and this is headlines. Uh,

1575
01:21:24,720 --> 01:21:28,600
Speaker 1: he's still in the concussion protocol. Yeah, he's going to

1576
01:21:28,640 --> 01:21:30,960
Speaker 1: be all This is gonna be an all week long thing. Yes,

1577
01:21:32,080 --> 01:21:34,760
Speaker 1: some of them plied, like the blurbs are coming out

1578
01:21:34,800 --> 01:21:37,040
Speaker 1: are They don't think it's that bad. It won't be

1579
01:21:37,080 --> 01:21:39,960
Speaker 1: a problem. He's gonna play. You don't know, but he's

1580
01:21:40,000 --> 01:21:42,240
Speaker 1: gonna go through the protocol. Right because he's really good,

1581
01:21:42,280 --> 01:21:44,160
Speaker 1: doesn't mean he hasn't doesn't have to go through the protocol.

1582
01:21:44,400 --> 01:21:48,559
Speaker 1: Everybody else they're not going to practice until Wednesday. He

1583
01:21:48,600 --> 01:21:51,160
Speaker 1: could go out and practice on Wednesday and in the

1584
01:21:51,200 --> 01:21:54,280
Speaker 1: reports would be all Patrick Mahomes practicing and Thursday could

1585
01:21:54,280 --> 01:21:58,080
Speaker 1: come back and have headaches. It's blurred vision or whatever

1586
01:21:58,120 --> 01:21:59,920
Speaker 1: it may be. Right, And I also think the thing

1587
01:22:00,000 --> 01:22:02,160
Speaker 1: that no one will talk about is he hurt his

1588
01:22:02,200 --> 01:22:04,720
Speaker 1: toe in that game, and toe injuries linger forever. Like,

1589
01:22:05,200 --> 01:22:07,000
Speaker 1: I very much think he's going to be the starting

1590
01:22:07,080 --> 01:22:09,720
Speaker 1: quarterback on Sunday, no doubt in my mind, But we

1591
01:22:09,760 --> 01:22:11,960
Speaker 1: don't know it's not a done deal. Not like he's

1592
01:22:12,000 --> 01:22:15,040
Speaker 1: gonna tough it out, or it's about homes or I mean,

1593
01:22:14,800 --> 01:22:17,400
Speaker 1: I get tweets like they're not gonna make a special wall.

1594
01:22:17,600 --> 01:22:20,160
Speaker 1: You know, he's in concussion protocol. Wink, wink, nudge. Not no,

1595
01:22:20,320 --> 01:22:23,200
Speaker 1: if he's in concussion protocol, he's in concussion protocol. I've

1596
01:22:23,200 --> 01:22:24,760
Speaker 1: gotten so many of those tweets, and one of them

1597
01:22:24,760 --> 01:22:26,920
Speaker 1: they include the commissioner on there. The commissioner is not

1598
01:22:26,920 --> 01:22:29,519
Speaker 1: gonna let him not put there's nothing to do with it.

1599
01:22:29,600 --> 01:22:32,400
Speaker 1: There's nothing to do with it. Right, these are the rules. Yeah? Right.

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01:22:32,640 --> 01:22:36,360
Speaker 1: They have an independent neurologist. That means an independent neurologist

1601
01:22:36,400 --> 01:22:38,960
Speaker 1: will look at him and judge whether he's he is

1602
01:22:39,000 --> 01:22:41,519
Speaker 1: healed or not healed. I mean, you can conspiracy theory

1603
01:22:41,600 --> 01:22:44,559
Speaker 1: all you want that he's you know, he's he's on

1604
01:22:44,600 --> 01:22:48,080
Speaker 1: the payroll somewhere, this this independent neurologist. But that's not

1605
01:22:48,120 --> 01:22:51,920
Speaker 1: how it works, folks, That's not how it works. Yeah. Um,

1606
01:22:52,040 --> 01:22:54,280
Speaker 1: he's got a pass. He's gotta pass. He's gotta pass

1607
01:22:54,320 --> 01:22:56,920
Speaker 1: through the protocol. And that could mean that he doesn't

1608
01:22:56,920 --> 01:22:59,720
Speaker 1: practice until Thursday or Friday, and he's gonna be it's

1609
01:22:59,720 --> 01:23:01,360
Speaker 1: gonna a weird week for him any which way. He

1610
01:23:01,439 --> 01:23:05,920
Speaker 1: got it with the toe as well, no doubt about it. Um.

1611
01:23:06,080 --> 01:23:11,160
Speaker 1: Sean McVeigh stopped short of guaranteeing Jared Golf a roster spot, um,

1612
01:23:11,160 --> 01:23:14,519
Speaker 1: saying he's he's our he was our quarterback. Um. Couple yeah,

1613
01:23:15,000 --> 01:23:19,360
Speaker 1: a couple of weeks ago his postgame interview was our quarterback.

1614
01:23:19,360 --> 01:23:22,200
Speaker 1: Can't turn a ball over like that? And then a

1615
01:23:22,240 --> 01:23:25,880
Speaker 1: couple of weeks ago, you know he's he starts what's

1616
01:23:25,880 --> 01:23:29,160
Speaker 1: his face? Um, the dude that got hurt last week

1617
01:23:29,240 --> 01:23:33,639
Speaker 1: while while Golf was that, you know, uh was able

1618
01:23:33,680 --> 01:23:37,120
Speaker 1: to play Wolford. I remember that it's actually actually Will

1619
01:23:37,120 --> 01:23:39,880
Speaker 1: Wolford's nephew. I know. That's how I always used to remember,

1620
01:23:39,920 --> 01:23:43,240
Speaker 1: and I totally forgot. And Wolford and Golf could have

1621
01:23:43,280 --> 01:23:45,640
Speaker 1: played in that game because he did, and there was

1622
01:23:45,680 --> 01:23:47,679
Speaker 1: talk that if Wolford was ready to go his past week,

1623
01:23:47,720 --> 01:23:49,639
Speaker 1: he might have got the start. Like I'm not saying

1624
01:23:49,640 --> 01:23:52,880
Speaker 1: Wolford's our starter and Golf isn't. But Golf's spend a

1625
01:23:52,920 --> 01:23:58,120
Speaker 1: problem and he's expensive. Could they do something. They're an

1626
01:23:58,120 --> 01:24:00,640
Speaker 1: aggressive organization and aggressive, but they don't have anything to

1627
01:24:00,680 --> 01:24:04,080
Speaker 1: trade right, you gonna trade Aaron Donald five first round

1628
01:24:04,080 --> 01:24:07,360
Speaker 1: picks for Deshaun Watson and you can't trade golf. I mean,

1629
01:24:07,640 --> 01:24:09,800
Speaker 1: they might regret the contract, but they got him. Yeah,

1630
01:24:09,960 --> 01:24:13,040
Speaker 1: he is what he's their guy. Um that brings me.

1631
01:24:13,080 --> 01:24:16,360
Speaker 1: You mentioned Deshaun Watson, and I keep seeing things out

1632
01:24:16,360 --> 01:24:19,600
Speaker 1: there floated out there by Steeler fans. Steelers need to

1633
01:24:19,600 --> 01:24:22,400
Speaker 1: go trade for Deshaun Watson. It just cost him this

1634
01:24:22,479 --> 01:24:25,920
Speaker 1: much money. Yeah, okay, the price his salary cap hit

1635
01:24:26,000 --> 01:24:29,280
Speaker 1: in twenty one, it would only be ten point five

1636
01:24:29,320 --> 01:24:32,880
Speaker 1: million dollars. That's that's wonderful. That's wonderful. It's the cost

1637
01:24:33,000 --> 01:24:35,000
Speaker 1: of what you would have to give up to get him.

1638
01:24:35,040 --> 01:24:37,639
Speaker 1: He's a he's a Pro Bowl, All Pro type quarterback

1639
01:24:37,680 --> 01:24:42,400
Speaker 1: who's twenty six years old, who's under contract, and and

1640
01:24:42,439 --> 01:24:45,439
Speaker 1: they If you thought that the Minka Fitzpatrick trade was

1641
01:24:45,520 --> 01:24:48,320
Speaker 1: too much, or you thought that the price to Devon

1642
01:24:48,560 --> 01:24:51,560
Speaker 1: for Devon Bush was too much, you would hate to

1643
01:24:51,600 --> 01:24:53,160
Speaker 1: see the cost of what it's gonna get, what it

1644
01:24:53,160 --> 01:24:54,960
Speaker 1: would cost you to get to Shaun Watson. I haven't

1645
01:24:54,960 --> 01:24:56,880
Speaker 1: given this any thought, but I have for a lot

1646
01:24:56,920 --> 01:25:00,760
Speaker 1: of teams. If I'm Houston and you come to Mr

1647
01:25:00,840 --> 01:25:04,040
Speaker 1: Colbert and okay, we would like to have talks. What

1648
01:25:04,080 --> 01:25:06,800
Speaker 1: would you want from us to pry Watson from you?

1649
01:25:08,439 --> 01:25:11,720
Speaker 1: I want t J. Watt, your first round pick this year,

1650
01:25:11,800 --> 01:25:14,840
Speaker 1: your first round pick next year, and then we can

1651
01:25:14,840 --> 01:25:20,000
Speaker 1: start talking. And I'm saying no, I mean, I mean,

1652
01:25:20,040 --> 01:25:22,360
Speaker 1: if I'm gonna deal with Watson, I want to pick

1653
01:25:22,360 --> 01:25:24,439
Speaker 1: in the top five or six so I can maybe

1654
01:25:24,439 --> 01:25:28,080
Speaker 1: get my quarterback and a lot more. You know, your

1655
01:25:28,120 --> 01:25:32,120
Speaker 1: your picks nice and all, but it's not as high. Yeah.

1656
01:25:32,080 --> 01:25:35,479
Speaker 1: If I'm talking to Miami as well, they they're gonna

1657
01:25:35,479 --> 01:25:37,920
Speaker 1: offer me the third pick I can get, I can

1658
01:25:38,000 --> 01:25:40,880
Speaker 1: get my pick back from them, right, I mean, and

1659
01:25:40,920 --> 01:25:42,760
Speaker 1: I want t J. Watt and maybe I get maybe

1660
01:25:42,760 --> 01:25:45,840
Speaker 1: they they tossed into as well. Exactly. You don't even

1661
01:25:45,880 --> 01:25:48,080
Speaker 1: have a young quarterback that I could maybe be my

1662
01:25:48,160 --> 01:25:51,360
Speaker 1: franchise guy. There are some teams that can't make the deal.

1663
01:25:51,760 --> 01:25:53,880
Speaker 1: The Steelers are one of them. One of them. They

1664
01:25:54,320 --> 01:25:56,080
Speaker 1: can't make the deal. If you're not picking in the

1665
01:25:56,160 --> 01:25:59,719
Speaker 1: top ten, right, you're not in any Deshaun Watson talks

1666
01:26:00,080 --> 01:26:02,479
Speaker 1: like the Niners have been rumored, but it would be

1667
01:26:03,120 --> 01:26:08,040
Speaker 1: Jimmy both their first and maybe another hers. Yeah, like

1668
01:26:08,680 --> 01:26:12,320
Speaker 1: that's what. He's a franchise quarterback. Think about this from

1669
01:26:12,320 --> 01:26:15,360
Speaker 1: the from these or something like that. He's give me

1670
01:26:15,400 --> 01:26:17,679
Speaker 1: twenty six this year next year? Would you have traded

1671
01:26:17,720 --> 01:26:22,200
Speaker 1: Ben Roethlisberger at six? What would it have taken for

1672
01:26:23,600 --> 01:26:27,320
Speaker 1: the draft. It would have taken multiple, multiple, multiple draft

1673
01:26:27,400 --> 01:26:29,479
Speaker 1: picks and players to get that to make that happen.

1674
01:26:30,439 --> 01:26:34,080
Speaker 1: If we threw every player erased all their contracts through

1675
01:26:34,120 --> 01:26:36,680
Speaker 1: him in a pool, and thirty two GMS got to

1676
01:26:36,720 --> 01:26:40,280
Speaker 1: pick teams, my homes will go first overall. He might

1677
01:26:40,360 --> 01:26:42,760
Speaker 1: go second. Yeah, I mean he'd be the top five.

1678
01:26:43,280 --> 01:26:44,960
Speaker 1: He wouldn't se he wouldn't slip out of there. No.

1679
01:26:45,160 --> 01:26:47,759
Speaker 1: I mean maybe somebody would go Harvard or who or Allan,

1680
01:26:47,840 --> 01:26:50,800
Speaker 1: who knows. But he is one of the five most

1681
01:26:50,960 --> 01:26:54,840
Speaker 1: maybe two most valuable assets in the whole game. That's what.

1682
01:26:55,600 --> 01:26:59,120
Speaker 1: That's why I don't see them trading him. I just

1683
01:26:59,479 --> 01:27:02,040
Speaker 1: demands it. But even then, I think you try to

1684
01:27:02,120 --> 01:27:04,400
Speaker 1: kiss and make up a little. I mean, yeah, maybe

1685
01:27:04,439 --> 01:27:08,840
Speaker 1: he's upset, maybe that they're they're interviewing Eric the enemy today. Yeah,

1686
01:27:08,960 --> 01:27:10,880
Speaker 1: so you throw on that bone. Okay, you want to

1687
01:27:10,960 --> 01:27:13,160
Speaker 1: be enemy, we're gonna hire. But you didn't get to

1688
01:27:13,240 --> 01:27:15,880
Speaker 1: hire the GM. So it is what it is. You

1689
01:27:15,960 --> 01:27:18,240
Speaker 1: don't get to pick who you're you know, who the

1690
01:27:18,400 --> 01:27:23,479
Speaker 1: who runs our franchise. We should Yeah, he kind of

1691
01:27:23,560 --> 01:27:25,240
Speaker 1: looks like a baby in all this a little bit.

1692
01:27:25,400 --> 01:27:27,960
Speaker 1: I don't quite understand all the but that's never the

1693
01:27:28,040 --> 01:27:30,360
Speaker 1: persona I thought about Watson. Like the steel when the

1694
01:27:30,400 --> 01:27:34,520
Speaker 1: Steelers hired Mike Tomlin, they didn't go to Ben Roethlisberger

1695
01:27:34,520 --> 01:27:36,439
Speaker 1: and say, hey, we're gonna hire this guy over Ken

1696
01:27:36,479 --> 01:27:38,760
Speaker 1: wizzen Hunt, for example, who's your you know, who's your

1697
01:27:38,840 --> 01:27:42,800
Speaker 1: offensive coordinator? Then they didn't do that. To do that, right,

1698
01:27:42,800 --> 01:27:44,920
Speaker 1: they're making their move. Now you may have met with

1699
01:27:45,000 --> 01:27:49,360
Speaker 1: the guy you I'm sure, hey after the higher or hey,

1700
01:27:49,520 --> 01:27:52,639
Speaker 1: we're gonna do this, this is who we want. Um okay,

1701
01:27:52,760 --> 01:27:55,640
Speaker 1: well it is what it is. But you don't necessarily

1702
01:27:55,680 --> 01:27:58,240
Speaker 1: give that. You don't let the players pick the your boss.

1703
01:27:58,400 --> 01:28:01,000
Speaker 1: I mean, I guess Jordan Lebron and some of these

1704
01:28:01,040 --> 01:28:02,600
Speaker 1: guys might have that kind of I mean, and I

1705
01:28:02,720 --> 01:28:04,200
Speaker 1: know the Steelers have kind of done that with their

1706
01:28:04,240 --> 01:28:06,880
Speaker 1: offensive coordinators at times. That's different. That's different than the

1707
01:28:06,920 --> 01:28:10,160
Speaker 1: head guy, the head guys, the guy who's making mocisions

1708
01:28:10,439 --> 01:28:13,120
Speaker 1: those things I wish I knew more about that story,

1709
01:28:13,280 --> 01:28:16,040
Speaker 1: because I do think there's things within the organization and

1710
01:28:16,120 --> 01:28:18,200
Speaker 1: I forget that I've read that. I read that over

1711
01:28:18,280 --> 01:28:20,720
Speaker 1: the weekend the Sports Illustrated did a big expose and

1712
01:28:20,720 --> 01:28:23,439
Speaker 1: they've actually done a couple on this guy. Nick Easterby

1713
01:28:23,920 --> 01:28:25,800
Speaker 1: is the guy that he wants him out of there,

1714
01:28:25,880 --> 01:28:29,080
Speaker 1: who seems a little on the sketchy side. Yes, I

1715
01:28:29,160 --> 01:28:31,280
Speaker 1: guess he's not been painted in the best light. And

1716
01:28:31,840 --> 01:28:34,760
Speaker 1: there's been more things that are non football related that

1717
01:28:35,240 --> 01:28:37,960
Speaker 1: with that organization that I could see why people would

1718
01:28:38,000 --> 01:28:41,000
Speaker 1: want out. Yeah, but they're not gonna give him away.

1719
01:28:41,120 --> 01:28:43,479
Speaker 1: They're not going to give him, yeah, exactly. Maybe the

1720
01:28:43,520 --> 01:28:46,120
Speaker 1: bridge is burned and he's not coming back, possibly, but

1721
01:28:46,200 --> 01:28:49,120
Speaker 1: it's gonna be at least the equivalent of three first

1722
01:28:49,200 --> 01:28:51,200
Speaker 1: round pick. And here's the problem for him, though, he's

1723
01:28:51,200 --> 01:28:54,599
Speaker 1: got a contract. If he decides, well, I'm not going

1724
01:28:54,640 --> 01:28:58,960
Speaker 1: to play. They just gave him what was the give him.

1725
01:28:59,000 --> 01:29:01,280
Speaker 1: He's like making forty million. He gave him a four year,

1726
01:29:01,600 --> 01:29:04,719
Speaker 1: hundred and fifty six million dollar contract that includes twenty

1727
01:29:04,760 --> 01:29:07,080
Speaker 1: seven million dollar signing bonus, a hundred and ten million

1728
01:29:07,120 --> 01:29:11,080
Speaker 1: dollars guaranteed. Uh An average annual salary of thirty nine

1729
01:29:11,120 --> 01:29:16,560
Speaker 1: million dollars. If he decides I'm not playing, okay, you

1730
01:29:16,680 --> 01:29:19,240
Speaker 1: gotta pay us back that twenty seven million dollars signing bonus,

1731
01:29:19,479 --> 01:29:21,320
Speaker 1: and you're not getting any checks, and you're not getting

1732
01:29:21,320 --> 01:29:23,800
Speaker 1: any checks like that. That contract hasn't kicked in yet,

1733
01:29:24,680 --> 01:29:26,760
Speaker 1: right exactly. It's not like he got the big so

1734
01:29:26,960 --> 01:29:29,880
Speaker 1: he has. He doesn't have twenty seven million dollars other

1735
01:29:29,960 --> 01:29:32,120
Speaker 1: than the twenty seven million dollars that they gave him,

1736
01:29:33,479 --> 01:29:36,640
Speaker 1: which I'm sure he spent some of. And do you

1737
01:29:36,680 --> 01:29:40,080
Speaker 1: want to play football again? Because if not, then pay

1738
01:29:40,160 --> 01:29:42,000
Speaker 1: us back that money and we'll walk away from this

1739
01:29:42,120 --> 01:29:44,840
Speaker 1: and you you're still our property, but you can't play

1740
01:29:44,880 --> 01:29:47,200
Speaker 1: anywhere else. I've been getting my info on this through

1741
01:29:47,280 --> 01:29:49,560
Speaker 1: Mike Sando, who's on top of it and friend of

1742
01:29:49,600 --> 01:29:52,760
Speaker 1: yours and does great work and he keeps huge only

1743
01:29:52,800 --> 01:29:57,320
Speaker 1: the equivalent of If Watson is determined he's not going

1744
01:29:57,400 --> 01:29:59,639
Speaker 1: to be a textan again, he can take the Carson

1745
01:29:59,720 --> 01:30:03,320
Speaker 1: Paul were with Bengal stand. Yeah, what's fine, But Palmer

1746
01:30:03,479 --> 01:30:06,240
Speaker 1: was more money. He had way more money in the bank. Yeah,

1747
01:30:06,920 --> 01:30:09,160
Speaker 1: less wear and tear on his bones, and I think

1748
01:30:09,200 --> 01:30:11,400
Speaker 1: he got traded the Raiders for a first and a second.

1749
01:30:11,520 --> 01:30:13,559
Speaker 1: You know, it wasn't as valuable as Watson is now.

1750
01:30:13,920 --> 01:30:17,320
Speaker 1: I mean he's not as young. And that's a strong stand.

1751
01:30:17,360 --> 01:30:19,439
Speaker 1: You don't see that happen. You could if you're if

1752
01:30:19,479 --> 01:30:22,200
Speaker 1: you're Carson Went or Carson Palmer, you at that point

1753
01:30:22,240 --> 01:30:25,200
Speaker 1: in your career, you could afford to sit out in

1754
01:30:25,320 --> 01:30:27,519
Speaker 1: a season you could never play again and be okay.

1755
01:30:27,600 --> 01:30:30,200
Speaker 1: You know, I've been thirty million in the bank. If

1756
01:30:30,200 --> 01:30:32,439
Speaker 1: I don't play football again, I'm done. You know. I

1757
01:30:32,520 --> 01:30:34,080
Speaker 1: think he was like thirty or thirty he was. He

1758
01:30:34,200 --> 01:30:36,000
Speaker 1: was in his early thirties at that time, so he

1759
01:30:36,120 --> 01:30:40,000
Speaker 1: was noticeably older than Watson, whereas Watson is still he's

1760
01:30:40,000 --> 01:30:42,759
Speaker 1: still playing on his rookie contracts again, so he hasn't

1761
01:30:42,800 --> 01:30:44,800
Speaker 1: made the big money. I mean, if you look at

1762
01:30:44,840 --> 01:30:47,680
Speaker 1: what he's made over the course of his career to

1763
01:30:47,840 --> 01:30:50,680
Speaker 1: this point, I'm pulling up his career earnings here. I mean.

1764
01:30:50,920 --> 01:30:53,559
Speaker 1: The most likely scenario to me is maybe you hire

1765
01:30:53,640 --> 01:30:58,640
Speaker 1: a b enemy who you white hired anyway, and this

1766
01:30:58,800 --> 01:31:00,760
Speaker 1: kind of goes away from the news for a couple

1767
01:31:00,760 --> 01:31:03,519
Speaker 1: of weeks, and then a month from now, we don't

1768
01:31:03,520 --> 01:31:05,680
Speaker 1: even hear about anymore, you know, like blows over. It's

1769
01:31:05,920 --> 01:31:08,439
Speaker 1: probably how it happens. But who knows. He could get traded.

1770
01:31:08,560 --> 01:31:11,040
Speaker 1: He has made over the course of his career. He's

1771
01:31:11,240 --> 01:31:15,760
Speaker 1: gotten forty or forty million dollars. Okay, but twenty seven

1772
01:31:15,800 --> 01:31:19,400
Speaker 1: million of that came in that signing bonus. Surprises that much.

1773
01:31:19,479 --> 01:31:22,240
Speaker 1: But so if you're if you're the Texas, Okay, you

1774
01:31:22,280 --> 01:31:24,760
Speaker 1: want to play hardball, Shawn, we can play hardball. You

1775
01:31:24,800 --> 01:31:27,839
Speaker 1: haven't given us any playing time for the next contract

1776
01:31:28,560 --> 01:31:32,439
Speaker 1: you owe us. That's seven million dollars back and and

1777
01:31:32,560 --> 01:31:34,679
Speaker 1: you can sit out and we'll lose, and we're gonna

1778
01:31:35,120 --> 01:31:38,520
Speaker 1: And also, by the way, the fines for that are ridiculous.

1779
01:31:39,080 --> 01:31:42,840
Speaker 1: He's forty dollars a day, and we're gonna hold you

1780
01:31:42,920 --> 01:31:45,160
Speaker 1: to that. We're that and we're not gonna You're gonna

1781
01:31:45,200 --> 01:31:46,840
Speaker 1: end up owing us a whole bunch of money at

1782
01:31:46,840 --> 01:31:48,720
Speaker 1: the end of this season. Is that what you want

1783
01:31:48,760 --> 01:31:51,519
Speaker 1: to do? And then you trade J. J. Watt and

1784
01:31:52,200 --> 01:31:56,719
Speaker 1: lose because they didn't twist. He could have just played

1785
01:31:56,760 --> 01:31:59,080
Speaker 1: out his contract. If he was so miserable in Houston,

1786
01:31:59,439 --> 01:32:01,360
Speaker 1: he shouldn't the deal. He shouldn't have signed a deal.

1787
01:32:01,400 --> 01:32:03,599
Speaker 1: He could have just played out the contract. Nobody twisted

1788
01:32:03,640 --> 01:32:05,360
Speaker 1: his arm to sign that contract at the beginning of

1789
01:32:05,360 --> 01:32:07,880
Speaker 1: the years like the second highest paid for quarterback behind

1790
01:32:07,920 --> 01:32:10,559
Speaker 1: the Homes, you know, shortly after the Homes. Dude, right,

1791
01:32:11,080 --> 01:32:13,600
Speaker 1: if you were that grumpy about it, that's when you

1792
01:32:13,720 --> 01:32:16,880
Speaker 1: demanded if if if if? This season is what did

1793
01:32:16,960 --> 01:32:19,720
Speaker 1: that to you? Going four and twelve. I don't know

1794
01:32:19,760 --> 01:32:23,840
Speaker 1: what to tell you. Right. Times are tough. Winning this

1795
01:32:23,920 --> 01:32:26,559
Speaker 1: league's not easy. Yeah, there are there's more to the story.

1796
01:32:26,640 --> 01:32:29,759
Speaker 1: And that doesn't seem like his m O as a whiny,

1797
01:32:29,840 --> 01:32:32,599
Speaker 1: selfish guy. Certainly its style play isn't that way at all.

1798
01:32:32,720 --> 01:32:35,400
Speaker 1: But I don't know, it's interesting. I mean, if he

1799
01:32:35,439 --> 01:32:36,960
Speaker 1: gets out, it's gonna be for a time, and it's

1800
01:32:36,960 --> 01:32:40,120
Speaker 1: not gonna be to Pittsburgh. It will not be to Pittsburgh, folks.

1801
01:32:40,160 --> 01:32:42,200
Speaker 1: That's not They don't enough to get him, right, that's

1802
01:32:42,560 --> 01:32:44,840
Speaker 1: they wanted him. They don't enough to give him. You

1803
01:32:44,920 --> 01:32:50,080
Speaker 1: can't send them Ben and Rudolph, that's hey, but I'll

1804
01:32:50,120 --> 01:32:52,360
Speaker 1: butt you, you know, throwing ola, you know, that's what

1805
01:32:52,680 --> 01:32:55,360
Speaker 1: that's the way. You know. Sometimes people want t J

1806
01:32:55,520 --> 01:32:57,479
Speaker 1: and three F. Yeah, give us, give us these five

1807
01:32:57,560 --> 01:32:59,560
Speaker 1: guys off the bottom of your roster and you know

1808
01:33:00,040 --> 01:33:03,360
Speaker 1: first round pick. No, it doesn't work that way, but yeah,

1809
01:33:03,439 --> 01:33:05,840
Speaker 1: that's it's interesting and UM, we'll keep an eye on

1810
01:33:05,880 --> 01:33:07,760
Speaker 1: all this stuff. But that's going to do it for

1811
01:33:08,160 --> 01:33:11,160
Speaker 1: our show today. We'll be back on Wednesday. You can

1812
01:33:11,240 --> 01:33:14,160
Speaker 1: listen to uh Wesley Euler and Arthur Moates tomorrow on

1813
01:33:14,240 --> 01:33:16,880
Speaker 1: these very airwaves. They'll be doing a new show. Matt

1814
01:33:16,880 --> 01:33:18,400
Speaker 1: and now I will be do on Monday, Wednesday and Friday.

1815
01:33:19,120 --> 01:33:21,200
Speaker 1: But that's gonna do it for today. Uh. He is

1816
01:33:21,240 --> 01:33:23,800
Speaker 1: Matt Williamson. We also want to thank God Jacob for

1817
01:33:23,960 --> 01:33:25,320
Speaker 1: keeping us on the air, and we want to thank

1818
01:33:25,320 --> 01:33:27,800
Speaker 1: you for listening to this edition of the Drive on

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01:33:27,960 --> 01:33:29,040
Speaker 1: Steelers Nation Radio.