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Speaker 1: I listen to the Black Guy Who Tips podcast because

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Speaker 1: Rod and Karen aht.

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Speaker 2: Hey, welcome to another episode of the Black Autos podcast.

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Speaker 3: I'm your host, Rod joined is always with my co.

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Speaker 2: Host Aron, and we are live on a Wednesday, a

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Speaker 2: very fun, wacky Wednesday. We have very fun.

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Speaker 3: Special guests that I was checking.

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Speaker 2: I went to look into archives. We have not had

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Speaker 2: Mike Lawrence on this show since twenty sixteen.

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Speaker 1: Wow, it's been that long.

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Speaker 2: According to my search. Now, look, maybe I'm wrong and

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Speaker 2: I did a bad search and it's but it don't

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Speaker 2: feel like that long. But it's probably been that long. Mike.

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Speaker 2: Can you catch us up on the last seven years?

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Speaker 4: Nothing's really changed.

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Speaker 5: For me, you know, for people that the first time

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Speaker 5: America started feeling great again, and I don't remember why, it.

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Speaker 3: Was just about we were due.

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Speaker 2: Mike.

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Speaker 3: Can you also tell you you're.

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Speaker 4: Just like you're like, like we can't have Bee.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what it was this podcast. Yeah, you're like,

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Speaker 2: listen that they're the ones that got out of control

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Speaker 2: that you go look at January sixth, it's all beard

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Speaker 2: and white dudes. We gotta we gotta take them down

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Speaker 2: or not? Mike? Can you catch people up on like

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Speaker 2: what you've been up to. I know you've been writing

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Speaker 2: for bubb Gus.

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Speaker 5: I know you.

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Speaker 2: Uh man, I went to your IMDb, like esnel a

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Speaker 2: busy dude.

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Speaker 1: You don't have a whole ass baby.

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Speaker 2: Upload Like so much has happened. But can you talk

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Speaker 2: about like the writing first and then we'll get into

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Speaker 2: some personal life stuff.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean I'm just well, you know, I'm not

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Speaker 4: writing now. Yeah, I have so much free time. I

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Speaker 4: could do a podcast in the afternoon.

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Speaker 2: Nerd of Mouth is coming back everyone, But yeah, so

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Speaker 2: so like how yeah, No, I've been I've been working.

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Speaker 5: I've been working with Pete Davidson a decent amount and

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Speaker 5: uh yeah, I worked on podcast. I co wrote his

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Speaker 5: last three years of SNL Weekend Updates. And I've been

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Speaker 5: on the road with him doing a little bit of

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Speaker 5: stand up. We were in rally Durham.

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Speaker 2: How'd you now, how did you meet Pete Davison? Is

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Speaker 2: that like a personal connection thing? Is of just like

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Speaker 2: a like how does that even work?

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Speaker 5: I think he's just just as a fan of mine

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Speaker 5: from when he was doing stand up. He told me

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Speaker 5: like the other day and I never knew this. He

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Speaker 5: was like Santamantium was the first comedy album I bought.

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Speaker 4: Wow Wow, And He's like I loved it, and I

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Speaker 4: was like even then, I was like, I want to

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Speaker 4: work with that guy.

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Speaker 2: Wow, that is so dope. The world is so small here,

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Speaker 2: that man that's so that's so dope. And then also

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Speaker 2: like to think that like to him low key, he's

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Speaker 2: like living a dream of his then like it's I

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Speaker 2: get to work with this guy that I've that I've

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Speaker 2: admired and looked up to, and you get to live

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Speaker 2: a dream of getting money to do work.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it's the weird thing of like just you know,

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Speaker 5: I always with commony anything, right, just do your best.

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Speaker 4: You never know who's watching and right, you never knew

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Speaker 4: who's gonna like discover you.

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Speaker 5: And I mean when I started working with him, I

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Speaker 5: already had like a pretty decent resume. But it's just

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Speaker 5: you know, it's been nice and he's he's really great

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Speaker 2: So yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean we know about the

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Speaker 2: Mike Lawrence legacy, Okay, we we know how you get

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Speaker 2: down and you know you be in the streets, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: bringing people together. Kanye West thought who knows.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: I was like when he when he just hated you,

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Speaker 5: everyone was okay with it, and then he gave him

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Speaker 4: Like, I also don't like the Jews.

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Speaker 3: You also have written next time someone goes after go ahead.

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Speaker 2: Oh you know what, Mike, we have a we have

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Speaker 2: a delay. I think I know how to fix this. Okay,

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Speaker 2: we're gonna take it back to the old school. When

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Speaker 2: one of us is done speaking, we're gonna say over

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Speaker 2: like a solwakee talk. Okay. I think that'll fix it.

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Speaker 2: I'm serious. So so because because you know, if it's

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Speaker 2: gonna be confusing for the artist, So I was.

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Speaker 3: I was because so I was gonna say.

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Speaker 2: I'm so sincere as far as not a joke if Uh.

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Speaker 3: I also saw that you.

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Speaker 2: Like worked on like reality TV which has no writers

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Speaker 2: or whatever.

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Speaker 3: How does how does that work?

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Speaker 2: Mike Over?

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Speaker 5: Oh man, we're just ten for good buddy, the Convoy podcast,

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Speaker 5: Kevin Convoy.

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Speaker 2: It.

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Speaker 5: So I worked on I worked on Love Island. I

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Speaker 5: worked on the first season of the American Love Island. Uh,

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Speaker 5: and I say there until the season was over.

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Speaker 3: Over What was the premise of Love Island?

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Speaker 2: Over?

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Speaker 4: It was hot? People fucking okay.

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Speaker 2: Fucking over each other or just what and what does

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Speaker 2: it mean to like to work on that? Because I

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Speaker 2: know the big thing is it's not like supposed to

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Speaker 2: be writers quote unquote, So what does it look like

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Speaker 2: to work you know there? Like what is a work day?

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Speaker 4: Over? I think we could just.

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Speaker 5: You know, and so saying over we could just do

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Speaker 5: that weird thing that no one's done in years and

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Speaker 5: listen to each other.

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Speaker 2: Mmmm, okay, we could try that.

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Speaker 4: We'll try that and if that doesn't work, then we

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Speaker 4: go back to Steebe Radio. So I co wrote. I

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Speaker 4: co wrote the voiceover.

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Speaker 5: So when you watch Love Island, you know there's that

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Speaker 4: So we were there. Our schedule it was in Fiji

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Speaker 5: In Fiji eight pm the night before when it airs

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Speaker 5: in America, So we're basically working up until the air date.

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Speaker 4: So is as close to like live TV as you

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Speaker 2: And is it kind of like you're up your alley

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Speaker 2: to do that kind of narrating writing because you roast

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Speaker 2: people by like trade like that is a specialty of yours.

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Speaker 2: Is it kind of like just riding a roast on

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Speaker 4: In some ways.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, you know, it was funny because we

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Speaker 4: To know who I was. But it was also I

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Speaker 5: I was like, you know, we're never gonna be as

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Speaker 5: mean as Twitter Church. You know that's actually uh, the

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Speaker 2: I always feel like Twitter is kind of scary because.

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Speaker 4: Anya West wakes up and says, yeah, I was just like.

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Speaker 2: Twitter is kind of scary because I feel like the

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Speaker 3: You know, like even a roast is supposed to be

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Speaker 2: Like we're having fun, We're in this together. I feel

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Speaker 2: like Twitter killed the Red Carpet commentary. Yes, Like I

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Speaker 2: remember when like Joan Rivers would get out there and

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Speaker 2: And I feel like Twitter just took that away from people.

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Speaker 2: It's just like none of the fun and none of

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Speaker 3: It's just all the mean.

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Speaker 4: No, Yeah, it's just you.

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Speaker 4: And I mean that was like Joan was one of them. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: celebrity elite on Mount Olympus or whatever it is. Yes, removed,

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Speaker 4: so she would protect them. She knew, you know, she

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Speaker 4: knew who was gay, who wasn't. What she could say

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Speaker 2: She joke herself like you know, some people would come

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Speaker 2: what's gone now when you just have like anonymous people

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Speaker 2: the people on UH Love Allen and the reality shows

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Speaker 2: do they see Twitter?

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Speaker 3: Like do they see what it said about them?

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Speaker 2: Well?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, shows like that.

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Speaker 5: It's often after the tape, you know, so when they

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Speaker 4: are you ready for this because it's you know, yeah,

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Speaker 5: Issues that people deal with in regular life. Like there

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Speaker 5: He was a black man who left a black woman

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Speaker 5: Oh no, no no, So he gets you know, so

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Speaker 5: he's in Fiji. He's still there, and he has to

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Speaker 5: read all these responses, you know, and people have to

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Speaker 4: Like because every decision you've made is being judged.

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Speaker 2: And is that a thing where one of the shows

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Speaker 5: Yeah, a lot a lot of times shows like that,

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Speaker 4: So I think, like a lot of those shows.

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Speaker 5: It's always my favorite thing on reality shows, Like when

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Speaker 5: a Project Runway and it's like the finals, they're like guests,

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Speaker 5: who your Sioux chefs are, and it's just the eliminated people.

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Speaker 2: Yes, right, people don't hire real people.

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Speaker 4: They have to act like they're surprised, like.

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Speaker 2: Oh you right, Oh no, we don't like each other.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, But all of those shows are just kept there

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Speaker 5: and it's you know, it's interesting how reality TV has changed,

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Speaker 2: On it and now and what's really wow now is

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Speaker 2: they're picking up on the social media lingo and inserting

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Speaker 4: Day, you know.

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Speaker 4: The daily you know monologue.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, like comedies try to parody comedies and stuff and

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Speaker 4: Like the more serious something is, the better the parody is. Yes, yeah,

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Speaker 2: It was like it felt so removed, right, Yeah, but

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Speaker 2: You've been openly talking about autism, and I don't think

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Speaker 5: the diagnosis, and I've had to like put a lot

443
00:24:47,800 --> 00:24:50,560
Speaker 5: of work in and in terms of being more patient

444
00:24:50,640 --> 00:24:53,840
Speaker 5: and stuff, and I mean, yeah, and in fatherhood, it's like,

445
00:24:54,440 --> 00:24:56,720
Speaker 5: I think my diagnosis has been great for me because

446
00:24:57,400 --> 00:24:59,639
Speaker 5: I used to like have panic attacks and stuff, and

447
00:25:00,880 --> 00:25:02,480
Speaker 5: time was like a big thing if I was late

448
00:25:02,560 --> 00:25:06,080
Speaker 5: to something. And now you know, you have a you

449
00:25:06,280 --> 00:25:11,520
Speaker 5: have a an infant, You're gonna be late. You're gonna yeah, right,

450
00:25:12,359 --> 00:25:14,439
Speaker 5: you really have to like regulate your emotion.

451
00:25:14,960 --> 00:25:17,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, And people understand, I think too, because they've all

452
00:25:17,359 --> 00:25:21,040
Speaker 2: gone through you know, infants and all that stuff. And

453
00:25:21,160 --> 00:25:23,040
Speaker 2: it's a lot of that stuff can be in your

454
00:25:23,119 --> 00:25:26,159
Speaker 2: head where like, because I'm very particular about time, I

455
00:25:26,280 --> 00:25:30,120
Speaker 2: have anxiety about stuff as well. And it's always so weird,

456
00:25:30,280 --> 00:25:34,200
Speaker 2: like it works out, It just it just does. But

457
00:25:34,760 --> 00:25:36,840
Speaker 2: in my brain when it's having it's like this is

458
00:25:36,920 --> 00:25:39,359
Speaker 2: never gonna work out. I'm two minutes late, Mike's gonna

459
00:25:39,359 --> 00:25:41,320
Speaker 2: be fucking upset. He's gonna hate this, and then I

460
00:25:41,400 --> 00:25:43,639
Speaker 2: get here, I'm two minutes late, and it's like, you know,

461
00:25:43,720 --> 00:25:46,320
Speaker 2: what the fuck it doesn't matter. Everything's on delay anyway.

462
00:25:46,400 --> 00:25:47,679
Speaker 2: If I was on time, I would have been two

463
00:25:47,720 --> 00:25:49,600
Speaker 2: minutes late according to this internet, so fuck it.

464
00:25:56,960 --> 00:26:02,480
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, yeah, I mean and I think that, you know, yeah,

465
00:26:02,640 --> 00:26:05,879
Speaker 5: it comes with age two of realizing the amount of

466
00:26:07,200 --> 00:26:10,760
Speaker 5: you know, life you've taken off yourself for worried about

467
00:26:10,760 --> 00:26:13,800
Speaker 5: ship that doesn't matter, and right, you know, it's like, I,

468
00:26:14,000 --> 00:26:16,359
Speaker 5: I look, you know, my my dad passed.

469
00:26:17,280 --> 00:26:18,360
Speaker 4: You know, he was he was sick.

470
00:26:18,480 --> 00:26:21,159
Speaker 5: He died in February, was sixty nine, so so that

471
00:26:21,600 --> 00:26:23,080
Speaker 5: numbers ruined up forever for me.

472
00:26:23,359 --> 00:26:24,640
Speaker 2: Nice and uh.

473
00:26:30,600 --> 00:26:34,040
Speaker 4: But you know, but he uh yeah, but he was

474
00:26:34,119 --> 00:26:35,360
Speaker 4: like a very stressed guy.

475
00:26:35,640 --> 00:26:38,560
Speaker 5: And and and I and I think, like, remember I

476
00:26:38,680 --> 00:26:41,399
Speaker 5: remember when when I was getting tested for autism, I

477
00:26:41,480 --> 00:26:42,840
Speaker 5: had to I had to you know, talk to my

478
00:26:42,960 --> 00:26:46,679
Speaker 5: parents about like signs that they noticed, if they noticed anything.

479
00:26:46,720 --> 00:26:48,800
Speaker 4: And my dad said, he's like, yeah, I probably am.

480
00:26:49,200 --> 00:26:52,240
Speaker 5: You know, like we just didn't He's like, we just

481
00:26:52,320 --> 00:26:55,000
Speaker 5: didn't diagnose back then. We just bullied the kids that

482
00:26:55,040 --> 00:26:55,879
Speaker 5: were different, you know.

483
00:26:56,800 --> 00:26:58,560
Speaker 2: True, that's true.

484
00:26:58,720 --> 00:27:01,320
Speaker 4: Here's a wedgie it's like you didn't want to be different.

485
00:27:02,480 --> 00:27:09,840
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, so what is that? I'm gonna give you

486
00:27:09,840 --> 00:27:13,240
Speaker 4: a whatdgie so high you'll be lifted up into the spectrum.

487
00:27:15,880 --> 00:27:16,639
Speaker 1: You get that faster.

488
00:27:16,880 --> 00:27:18,600
Speaker 2: What is the autism test like?

489
00:27:18,960 --> 00:27:19,000
Speaker 4: Like?

490
00:27:19,200 --> 00:27:22,560
Speaker 2: And what made you decide to like, yo, I should

491
00:27:22,600 --> 00:27:23,399
Speaker 2: probably look into this.

492
00:27:27,160 --> 00:27:30,480
Speaker 4: I mean, it was like just realizing it.

493
00:27:30,640 --> 00:27:33,879
Speaker 5: I things were making me more frustrated and we started

494
00:27:34,600 --> 00:27:40,040
Speaker 5: talking about the adoption process and so and I just knew.

495
00:27:40,080 --> 00:27:41,800
Speaker 4: I was like, if I become a dad, now, this

496
00:27:41,920 --> 00:27:47,879
Speaker 4: is not good for anybody, you know. And and so

497
00:27:48,000 --> 00:27:48,800
Speaker 4: it gave me clarity.

498
00:27:49,359 --> 00:27:52,040
Speaker 5: And I mean I was watching that show Love on

499
00:27:52,160 --> 00:27:56,600
Speaker 5: the Spectrum and you know, it's Love Island.

500
00:27:56,640 --> 00:27:58,800
Speaker 4: If they knew what was wrong with that?

501
00:28:07,400 --> 00:28:13,920
Speaker 5: But you know, so I'm watching I'm watching that and

502
00:28:14,160 --> 00:28:17,760
Speaker 5: I see myself in one or two of the people,

503
00:28:19,080 --> 00:28:21,520
Speaker 5: and I was like, okay, this is this is very clear.

504
00:28:22,160 --> 00:28:28,159
Speaker 4: And so I I talked to my therapist and she knows.

505
00:28:27,960 --> 00:28:31,840
Speaker 5: Somebody who does the evaluations, and the evaluation was online.

506
00:28:31,960 --> 00:28:35,360
Speaker 4: I don't know, this might be the first podcast I've

507
00:28:35,359 --> 00:28:37,680
Speaker 4: shared this story. I'm not sure because it's very very

508
00:28:37,760 --> 00:28:38,800
Speaker 4: funny and very nerdy.

509
00:28:39,440 --> 00:28:43,720
Speaker 5: But so I'm I'm I'm being interviewed by this woman

510
00:28:43,880 --> 00:28:45,880
Speaker 5: and uh, this is during the pandemic, so it was

511
00:28:46,840 --> 00:28:53,320
Speaker 5: over zoom and I have a poster right behind me

512
00:28:53,680 --> 00:28:57,240
Speaker 5: of Spider Man issue one thirty seven where it's Spider

513
00:28:57,320 --> 00:28:58,560
Speaker 5: Man fighting the Green Goblin.

514
00:28:59,080 --> 00:29:01,320
Speaker 4: And this is this woman, and like thirty minutes into

515
00:29:01,400 --> 00:29:06,880
Speaker 4: the interviews, like, she's like, I'm guessing you know who

516
00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:09,760
Speaker 4: my husband, my ex husband is my ex husband. And

517
00:29:09,800 --> 00:29:11,480
Speaker 4: I'm like, ex husband.

518
00:29:11,600 --> 00:29:13,520
Speaker 5: And then I look at her name, doctor Conway. I'm like,

519
00:29:13,720 --> 00:29:16,760
Speaker 5: Conway is your ex husband, Gary Conway.

520
00:29:17,400 --> 00:29:19,520
Speaker 4: She's like, yeah, he's my ex husband. I was like,

521
00:29:19,680 --> 00:29:23,000
Speaker 4: oh wow, that was his issue.

522
00:29:23,440 --> 00:29:26,080
Speaker 2: Wow oh man.

523
00:29:26,200 --> 00:29:28,760
Speaker 5: And you know, one of the one of the symptoms

524
00:29:28,800 --> 00:29:31,480
Speaker 5: of autism is you get fixated on something and that's all.

525
00:29:31,400 --> 00:29:40,040
Speaker 4: You want to talk about. No, he checked out boxes,

526
00:29:41,200 --> 00:29:42,280
Speaker 4: you know, I just want to be like, did his

527
00:29:42,440 --> 00:29:43,680
Speaker 4: name is Dick? The Punisher?

528
00:29:48,400 --> 00:29:49,400
Speaker 1: Was not a real question.

529
00:29:49,520 --> 00:29:52,240
Speaker 4: You guys get divorced because he treated you like went Stacey.

530
00:29:55,240 --> 00:30:00,080
Speaker 2: She's just writing on her pad like check yes, yes, yes, autism, yeah.

531
00:30:01,960 --> 00:30:05,680
Speaker 4: Oh yeah. Oh. And then and then I see the

532
00:30:05,800 --> 00:30:08,960
Speaker 4: pad like so when I got the test, like, subject

533
00:30:09,400 --> 00:30:11,480
Speaker 4: is asking me a lot about.

534
00:30:14,760 --> 00:30:20,080
Speaker 2: I won't stop talking about my fucking husband ex husband. Man,

535
00:30:20,120 --> 00:30:24,600
Speaker 2: that's hilarious, dude. But like I also feel like, at

536
00:30:24,680 --> 00:30:29,760
Speaker 2: least from online, seeing you talk about it, it seems

537
00:30:29,840 --> 00:30:36,320
Speaker 2: like it's provided like a clarity and there's like, uh,

538
00:30:36,600 --> 00:30:38,680
Speaker 2: if you're part of me saying there's like an enjoyment

539
00:30:39,080 --> 00:30:42,720
Speaker 2: that you have now of the nerd stuff that that

540
00:30:43,080 --> 00:30:46,880
Speaker 2: I feel like you consume, but at least to me,

541
00:30:46,960 --> 00:30:48,800
Speaker 2: it's on the outside looking and it felt like it

542
00:30:49,120 --> 00:30:52,000
Speaker 2: it would almost make you miserable to as much as

543
00:30:52,040 --> 00:30:55,040
Speaker 2: you loved it, you also like kind of were like this,

544
00:30:55,320 --> 00:30:57,440
Speaker 2: this is what's wrong with everything, This is what's bad

545
00:30:57,480 --> 00:31:00,720
Speaker 2: about everything. And then there's like a switch flip and

546
00:31:01,080 --> 00:31:04,200
Speaker 2: and and uh, you know, I'm already one of these optimistic,

547
00:31:04,400 --> 00:31:05,800
Speaker 2: fucking love everything nerves.

548
00:31:06,040 --> 00:31:06,240
Speaker 4: I know.

549
00:31:07,400 --> 00:31:10,280
Speaker 6: Yeah, me and Roger gotta nerves that people hate because

550
00:31:10,360 --> 00:31:11,719
Speaker 6: they like, y'all love everything.

551
00:31:11,760 --> 00:31:13,840
Speaker 1: It's like, no, we don't. We just you know, we

552
00:31:14,160 --> 00:31:14,760
Speaker 1: enjoy the ship.

553
00:31:14,840 --> 00:31:17,840
Speaker 2: We enjoy it uncritical things, but I like a lot

554
00:31:17,880 --> 00:31:22,160
Speaker 2: of stuff, and that vibe isn't really one of community online,

555
00:31:22,200 --> 00:31:24,760
Speaker 2: Like a lot of people find community in the and

556
00:31:24,840 --> 00:31:26,760
Speaker 2: a lot of the negative things. You know, It's like

557
00:31:26,840 --> 00:31:29,680
Speaker 2: how Twitter, just it goes to negative. It's not really

558
00:31:29,720 --> 00:31:32,280
Speaker 2: what people intend to do. But if if you got

559
00:31:32,320 --> 00:31:34,360
Speaker 2: something bad to say, it's gonna get more traction on

560
00:31:34,400 --> 00:31:37,120
Speaker 2: Twitter if you have something good to say anyway, seeing

561
00:31:37,600 --> 00:31:41,040
Speaker 2: you switch kind of to like a lot more positive

562
00:31:41,320 --> 00:31:44,920
Speaker 2: and funny. Uh in the funny in the not like

563
00:31:45,480 --> 00:31:48,480
Speaker 2: roasting way, which which was always funny too, but it's

564
00:31:48,520 --> 00:31:50,680
Speaker 2: like a different type of funny that that that seems

565
00:31:50,800 --> 00:31:52,880
Speaker 2: I don't know, joyous, I guess is the word I'll

566
00:31:52,920 --> 00:31:53,160
Speaker 2: put it.

567
00:31:53,840 --> 00:31:54,280
Speaker 1: Was that like a.

568
00:31:54,360 --> 00:31:56,920
Speaker 2: Conscientious thing or is that just something that came along

569
00:31:57,080 --> 00:32:01,040
Speaker 2: with like, oh man, this diagnosis working on myself and bam,

570
00:32:01,120 --> 00:32:06,960
Speaker 2: I have a different perspective, yeah, some of it.

571
00:32:07,120 --> 00:32:10,680
Speaker 5: And you know it's funny too that, Like I think

572
00:32:10,800 --> 00:32:15,440
Speaker 5: what really helped with you know, my nerd perspective is

573
00:32:15,640 --> 00:32:18,080
Speaker 5: I don't consume as much of it now.

574
00:32:18,640 --> 00:32:22,080
Speaker 4: You know, and like my my spider sense will tingle,

575
00:32:24,240 --> 00:32:25,280
Speaker 4: you know. And it's like.

576
00:32:27,320 --> 00:32:31,360
Speaker 5: I say, like one of the most important moments of

577
00:32:31,480 --> 00:32:35,600
Speaker 5: my adult nerd life was the first episode of Iron Fist, because.

578
00:32:35,360 --> 00:32:37,320
Speaker 4: I was like, this is bad.

579
00:32:39,160 --> 00:32:42,160
Speaker 5: I'm not enjoying this and I didn't watch the rest

580
00:32:42,200 --> 00:32:45,320
Speaker 5: of it. Yeah, and I didn't watch Defenders, and then

581
00:32:45,360 --> 00:32:45,760
Speaker 5: it was like.

582
00:32:45,960 --> 00:32:47,360
Speaker 4: You could just not watch these.

583
00:32:49,120 --> 00:32:49,400
Speaker 1: Option.

584
00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:54,360
Speaker 4: So you know, there's there's there's Marvel shows that I

585
00:32:54,440 --> 00:32:57,239
Speaker 4: haven't watch. Yeah, some of the I've not seen an

586
00:32:57,240 --> 00:32:58,440
Speaker 4: episode of Secret Invasion.

587
00:32:58,760 --> 00:33:00,560
Speaker 2: Yeah I can believe that. Yeah.

588
00:33:00,760 --> 00:33:02,040
Speaker 3: I think a lot of that stuff too.

589
00:33:02,160 --> 00:33:05,280
Speaker 2: Is like people told you for years when you were

590
00:33:05,320 --> 00:33:07,920
Speaker 2: complaining about stuff they beat, like they be on your

591
00:33:08,480 --> 00:33:10,760
Speaker 2: Facebook page like Mike, you don't have to watch this,

592
00:33:11,600 --> 00:33:13,640
Speaker 2: and I guess it just took a while and then

593
00:33:13,680 --> 00:33:15,600
Speaker 2: you were like, damn, y'all, I was right, I could

594
00:33:15,600 --> 00:33:17,480
Speaker 2: skip the ones that I don't fuck with.

595
00:33:21,120 --> 00:33:23,160
Speaker 4: Well, well, you know what, you know what part of

596
00:33:23,240 --> 00:33:23,680
Speaker 4: it is that?

597
00:33:23,960 --> 00:33:26,320
Speaker 5: And I think you guys will relate to this, you know,

598
00:33:27,400 --> 00:33:31,600
Speaker 5: similar ages. But you know when you were a kid

599
00:33:31,840 --> 00:33:34,240
Speaker 5: and the you know comics, you didn't read every comic.

600
00:33:35,000 --> 00:33:37,720
Speaker 4: There were certain you know one you can only buy

601
00:33:38,200 --> 00:33:40,920
Speaker 4: X amount of stuff and it was the nineties, so

602
00:33:40,960 --> 00:33:42,480
Speaker 4: it's definitely had an X on it.

603
00:33:42,880 --> 00:33:50,320
Speaker 5: Yeah, it could only buy X men amount of stuff, right, right,

604
00:33:50,960 --> 00:33:54,520
Speaker 5: but you know, like you know, you could only you

605
00:33:54,600 --> 00:33:56,680
Speaker 5: could only like read a few characters, and that I

606
00:33:56,760 --> 00:33:58,840
Speaker 5: remember like when The Moonnight Show came out, I was

607
00:33:58,880 --> 00:33:59,760
Speaker 5: like I never bought a.

608
00:34:01,520 --> 00:34:07,560
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, and like I would find myself, I would

609
00:34:07,600 --> 00:34:10,800
Speaker 2: find myself X forcing myself to watch stuff that I

610
00:34:10,960 --> 00:34:16,000
Speaker 2: wasn't really into. So so I like I would like

611
00:34:16,120 --> 00:34:19,760
Speaker 2: some of the stuff I would skip or just catching

612
00:34:19,840 --> 00:34:22,439
Speaker 2: my own leisurely paced And I think what people don't

613
00:34:22,520 --> 00:34:26,640
Speaker 2: realize is this right now, this period that we're in,

614
00:34:27,640 --> 00:34:29,160
Speaker 2: this is what comic books is.

615
00:34:29,600 --> 00:34:29,719
Speaker 4: Right.

616
00:34:29,840 --> 00:34:32,960
Speaker 2: You can't consume everything the ship before when it was

617
00:34:33,040 --> 00:34:36,279
Speaker 2: just like everything was like a neat narrative line all

618
00:34:36,320 --> 00:34:38,360
Speaker 2: the way to the Avengers and the Endgame and stuff.

619
00:34:39,160 --> 00:34:42,120
Speaker 2: That's not really what the comic book experience is. Like,

620
00:34:42,200 --> 00:34:44,360
Speaker 2: that's the that's the height of the height of the

621
00:34:44,440 --> 00:34:47,640
Speaker 2: best thing. But real life comic book experiences you walk

622
00:34:47,719 --> 00:34:50,160
Speaker 2: in and you're like, I don't know, man, this Moon

623
00:34:50,239 --> 00:34:52,320
Speaker 2: Night shit seems kind of fucking weird, And why is

624
00:34:52,360 --> 00:34:55,239
Speaker 2: Wolverine in an issue? Like I gotta read the first

625
00:34:55,280 --> 00:34:57,760
Speaker 2: six issues to find out why Wolverine's in an issue

626
00:34:58,080 --> 00:35:01,400
Speaker 2: Like that's really what comic books is. More like, here's

627
00:35:01,400 --> 00:35:04,279
Speaker 2: some shit for these type of people, Like I'd say,

628
00:35:04,360 --> 00:35:06,640
Speaker 2: Miss Marvel feels kind of like a kids show for

629
00:35:06,760 --> 00:35:10,200
Speaker 2: some folks. You know, what if it's for the super

630
00:35:10,320 --> 00:35:14,520
Speaker 2: nerd like comic book hardcore guy. The you know, Secret

631
00:35:14,600 --> 00:35:17,839
Speaker 2: Invasion is almost for like almost a throwback show at

632
00:35:17,920 --> 00:35:22,920
Speaker 2: this point of like remember spies and costumes and you're like, oh,

633
00:35:22,960 --> 00:35:25,120
Speaker 2: I thought we were on multiverse theory at this point.

634
00:35:25,239 --> 00:35:28,200
Speaker 3: Like it's like there's something for everybody at this fucking point.

635
00:35:28,280 --> 00:35:30,960
Speaker 2: And I think if people just cherry pick the things

636
00:35:31,000 --> 00:35:33,960
Speaker 2: they think they would be interested in, it raises your

637
00:35:34,200 --> 00:35:37,080
Speaker 2: like enjoyment rather than trying to consume it all like

638
00:35:37,160 --> 00:35:38,040
Speaker 2: fucking homework.

639
00:35:38,920 --> 00:35:41,239
Speaker 6: Yeah, I think people get mad, yeah, because a lot

640
00:35:41,280 --> 00:35:43,319
Speaker 6: of people they feel like it was homework and they

641
00:35:43,400 --> 00:35:44,080
Speaker 6: weren't prepared.

642
00:35:44,520 --> 00:35:47,200
Speaker 1: And in my mind, I'm like, oh, this is comic books,

643
00:35:47,239 --> 00:35:49,480
Speaker 1: because in my mind, I go, you know what they are?

644
00:35:49,600 --> 00:35:52,879
Speaker 2: People like your mother who go, I like Black Panther,

645
00:35:53,000 --> 00:35:54,280
Speaker 2: don't get fuck about the Avengers.

646
00:35:54,360 --> 00:35:56,960
Speaker 7: I'll get I'll give God theat By, Nobody's crossover. Call

647
00:35:57,120 --> 00:35:59,600
Speaker 7: me with Black Panther three cobs, and I will watch it.

648
00:36:00,040 --> 00:36:02,600
Speaker 7: That's how people consume comic books. They go, this is

649
00:36:02,640 --> 00:36:05,400
Speaker 7: who I'm watching Superman. I don't care nothing about the

650
00:36:05,480 --> 00:36:09,480
Speaker 7: group the Justice League. Fuck that, you know, And so

651
00:36:09,680 --> 00:36:11,680
Speaker 7: people don't regast to me it's just that simple.

652
00:36:11,840 --> 00:36:17,840
Speaker 6: But because you introduced the populace to a world that

653
00:36:17,960 --> 00:36:20,719
Speaker 6: they were not ready for, and but you simplified it.

654
00:36:21,239 --> 00:36:23,280
Speaker 6: So for a lot of times, they're used to watching

655
00:36:23,320 --> 00:36:25,960
Speaker 6: shit part one, part two, part three, the end.

656
00:36:26,480 --> 00:36:29,120
Speaker 1: That's why after The Avengers a lot of people got angry.

657
00:36:29,239 --> 00:36:32,240
Speaker 6: There was like, there's more y'all putting shit on Disney

658
00:36:32,320 --> 00:36:35,239
Speaker 6: Plus it's like it never it never is.

659
00:36:35,400 --> 00:36:38,560
Speaker 2: That's the thing about comic books. They never and Batman

660
00:36:38,640 --> 00:36:40,160
Speaker 2: been the same age my whole life.

661
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Speaker 1: Comic books have been around for and I think some years.

662
00:36:43,080 --> 00:36:46,680
Speaker 2: I think live action fans are just now hitting the like, oh,

663
00:36:47,640 --> 00:36:49,479
Speaker 2: it's never gonna end. Never.

664
00:36:51,000 --> 00:36:53,360
Speaker 6: This stuff was coming out before most of us was born,

665
00:36:54,160 --> 00:36:55,879
Speaker 6: so it's gonna be around for a while.

666
00:36:56,440 --> 00:37:00,279
Speaker 4: Yeah. And I mean the novelty is gone. You know.

667
00:37:00,400 --> 00:37:02,759
Speaker 4: It was like, you know, it's like back in my day,

668
00:37:02,840 --> 00:37:05,160
Speaker 4: you got your Howard the Duck and you fucking like.

669
00:37:07,760 --> 00:37:08,400
Speaker 1: You loved it.

670
00:37:10,040 --> 00:37:13,520
Speaker 2: You got Nick Fury with uh with David Hasselhoff, and

671
00:37:13,600 --> 00:37:15,879
Speaker 2: you just pretended it was great. That's what you did.

672
00:37:20,320 --> 00:37:20,480
Speaker 2: You know.

673
00:37:20,560 --> 00:37:23,080
Speaker 4: It's like media or Man wasn't based on a comic,

674
00:37:23,160 --> 00:37:24,160
Speaker 4: but he was a superhero.

675
00:37:24,520 --> 00:37:27,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was let's go someone got take Down the

676
00:37:27,440 --> 00:37:32,000
Speaker 2: Golden Lords. Okay, yeah.

677
00:37:33,800 --> 00:37:36,120
Speaker 4: I saw steel, I saw a barbed wire.

678
00:37:37,040 --> 00:37:40,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, yep, I think that, you know, But now it

679
00:37:40,600 --> 00:37:40,880
Speaker 2: is that.

680
00:37:43,640 --> 00:37:44,120
Speaker 4: No saying.

681
00:37:44,200 --> 00:37:46,600
Speaker 5: It's like an embarrassment of riches, like the amount of

682
00:37:46,680 --> 00:37:49,759
Speaker 5: stuff that there is. But yeah, it's like you're right,

683
00:37:49,840 --> 00:37:52,120
Speaker 5: it did become like Hallmark.

684
00:37:52,320 --> 00:37:54,440
Speaker 4: It did start to feel that way. But it's like

685
00:37:54,560 --> 00:37:55,440
Speaker 4: that is a choice.

686
00:37:55,880 --> 00:37:57,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, that is a choice.

687
00:37:57,239 --> 00:37:59,640
Speaker 4: Handskip things you can and for.

688
00:38:01,960 --> 00:38:04,280
Speaker 2: Me, oh no, no, you go, you got you got.

689
00:38:06,800 --> 00:38:08,560
Speaker 4: No saying, like you know what.

690
00:38:08,920 --> 00:38:12,520
Speaker 5: Another another thing is that, like you know, so much

691
00:38:12,600 --> 00:38:16,880
Speaker 5: of comics is the creators, right, so like you know,

692
00:38:17,000 --> 00:38:20,719
Speaker 5: we're gonna watch something because this person is making it

693
00:38:20,880 --> 00:38:22,759
Speaker 5: or that person is making it. And in the same

694
00:38:22,800 --> 00:38:25,360
Speaker 5: way that you know, we read something like oh this

695
00:38:25,520 --> 00:38:28,320
Speaker 5: guy's on the book. Now, oh she's writing it. Okay,

696
00:38:28,480 --> 00:38:30,560
Speaker 5: now I'm into this, you know. And uh, it's just

697
00:38:30,760 --> 00:38:33,080
Speaker 5: like like it's not that Thor is a good or

698
00:38:33,160 --> 00:38:33,760
Speaker 5: bad character.

699
00:38:33,840 --> 00:38:37,680
Speaker 4: It's like we love Taikwa and when he took Thor over,

700
00:38:37,880 --> 00:38:38,680
Speaker 4: that was exciting.

701
00:38:38,920 --> 00:38:41,000
Speaker 5: Yeah, someone else takes it over and it might not

702
00:38:41,120 --> 00:38:44,360
Speaker 5: be as good, and you know, and I think, like,

703
00:38:45,000 --> 00:38:47,920
Speaker 5: to me, that was the big failure of DC is

704
00:38:48,840 --> 00:38:54,040
Speaker 5: they took a guy with such a specific love it

705
00:38:54,239 --> 00:38:58,480
Speaker 5: or hate it vision and there was no one between.

706
00:38:58,920 --> 00:39:02,879
Speaker 4: Yeah, so you either were into that thing or you weren't. Yeah,

707
00:39:03,360 --> 00:39:08,120
Speaker 4: and it it took over, you know, the entire universe.

708
00:39:08,200 --> 00:39:11,239
Speaker 5: And so I even like, I'm wary a little bit

709
00:39:11,320 --> 00:39:13,600
Speaker 5: of the James Gunns things just because it's like, so

710
00:39:13,719 --> 00:39:15,160
Speaker 5: now we're just gonna give another.

711
00:39:14,960 --> 00:39:18,040
Speaker 4: Person with a strong point of view the whole universe.

712
00:39:18,320 --> 00:39:21,839
Speaker 2: Like, yeah, like I'm I wonder if it's an over

713
00:39:22,040 --> 00:39:25,040
Speaker 2: correction for James Gunn committee. I wonder if it's an

714
00:39:25,040 --> 00:39:26,439
Speaker 2: over correction for James gun.

715
00:39:26,440 --> 00:39:33,160
Speaker 4: Because especially, trust me say, in a strike especially, it

716
00:39:33,239 --> 00:39:36,040
Speaker 4: sucks to be like, you know, having a producer of

717
00:39:36,200 --> 00:39:39,520
Speaker 4: lead things and executive lead things was better than having

718
00:39:39,680 --> 00:39:40,840
Speaker 4: a writer or a director.

719
00:39:41,280 --> 00:39:41,520
Speaker 2: Yeah.

720
00:39:41,840 --> 00:39:44,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, like you said, it's a committee.

721
00:39:44,880 --> 00:39:46,719
Speaker 2: Well, the thing I was gonna say too, is I

722
00:39:46,880 --> 00:39:51,520
Speaker 2: wonder if it's somewhat of an over correction because obviously

723
00:39:51,640 --> 00:39:53,560
Speaker 2: the thing about the Zack Snyder versus it got so

724
00:39:53,800 --> 00:39:57,080
Speaker 2: dark and it was almost like off putting lead dark,

725
00:39:57,239 --> 00:39:59,959
Speaker 2: you know, by the end, And I wonder, and James

726
00:40:00,120 --> 00:40:04,200
Speaker 2: gun is so good at making things like funny even

727
00:40:04,239 --> 00:40:08,360
Speaker 2: if they're even if they are like dark like humor moments,

728
00:40:08,719 --> 00:40:11,400
Speaker 2: he still is able to like bring bring levity with

729
00:40:11,480 --> 00:40:13,880
Speaker 2: the humor. And that's why I love his work, to

730
00:40:14,000 --> 00:40:17,560
Speaker 2: be honest, Like I loved a Peacemaker, I love Guardians

731
00:40:17,560 --> 00:40:20,000
Speaker 2: of the Galaxy. I love that stuff. And he loves

732
00:40:20,080 --> 00:40:22,640
Speaker 2: the quirky, weird parts of the universe. So you know,

733
00:40:22,719 --> 00:40:26,399
Speaker 2: they're like casting like Plastic Man and shit like ten,

734
00:40:26,840 --> 00:40:29,800
Speaker 2: you know, like Metamorpho, and you're like, oh man, that's cool,

735
00:40:29,880 --> 00:40:32,480
Speaker 2: Like I want to see those people on screens, and

736
00:40:32,760 --> 00:40:34,360
Speaker 2: I hear they're looking for comedians to do.

737
00:40:34,400 --> 00:40:35,120
Speaker 3: The roles and stuff.

738
00:40:35,640 --> 00:40:38,279
Speaker 2: But it does make you wonder if we're just like

739
00:40:38,520 --> 00:40:41,439
Speaker 2: four years from the problem the other way where people

740
00:40:41,480 --> 00:40:43,600
Speaker 2: are like this is just too funny, is it in

741
00:40:43,760 --> 00:40:45,400
Speaker 2: this gonna be serious?

742
00:40:45,560 --> 00:40:47,240
Speaker 3: Like why's Batman making jokes?

743
00:40:47,280 --> 00:40:49,160
Speaker 2: And then we're just gonna be right back here to

744
00:40:49,280 --> 00:40:49,960
Speaker 2: like fuck DC.

745
00:40:50,480 --> 00:40:52,920
Speaker 6: And maybe it's just me and maybe it's the way

746
00:40:52,960 --> 00:40:56,880
Speaker 6: my mind tick ticks when people goes something's too funny,

747
00:40:57,040 --> 00:40:58,680
Speaker 6: it's like my mind mentally breaks.

748
00:40:58,760 --> 00:40:59,880
Speaker 1: I was like, too funny.

749
00:41:00,440 --> 00:41:03,000
Speaker 6: I've never heard that. Like I don't know about you,

750
00:41:03,120 --> 00:41:05,439
Speaker 6: but I like to laughing I like jokes. If something

751
00:41:05,560 --> 00:41:07,680
Speaker 6: is too funny, it's nobody a good thing. Be it

752
00:41:07,800 --> 00:41:09,520
Speaker 6: be it too funny bad or too funny good.

753
00:41:09,719 --> 00:41:11,880
Speaker 2: I think that's because of how we're made. We we

754
00:41:12,719 --> 00:41:16,440
Speaker 2: like comedy so much. Okay, I'm with it, Like to me, like,

755
00:41:16,560 --> 00:41:20,480
Speaker 2: I still remember the main complaint that people had about

756
00:41:21,080 --> 00:41:23,160
Speaker 2: thor Love and Thunder was it was too funny, and

757
00:41:23,200 --> 00:41:25,880
Speaker 2: I was just like, I can't And I was.

758
00:41:25,880 --> 00:41:27,360
Speaker 1: Like, get the fuck out of here. Too funny.

759
00:41:27,440 --> 00:41:30,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, I can't pretend to be like even engaging in that.

760
00:41:30,520 --> 00:41:34,120
Speaker 2: I liked that it was too funny. Please give me more.

761
00:41:34,160 --> 00:41:40,840
Speaker 4: Too funny ship, I like, well, yeah, it's and I

762
00:41:41,000 --> 00:41:42,080
Speaker 4: think a lot of it.

763
00:41:42,680 --> 00:41:46,360
Speaker 5: There's one word I think that you know, I always

764
00:41:46,480 --> 00:41:49,080
Speaker 5: use when I'm talking about you know, nerd them and stuff.

765
00:41:50,680 --> 00:41:55,120
Speaker 4: It's shame. Get that, get that game of thro shame.

766
00:41:57,080 --> 00:41:57,480
Speaker 3: Shame.

767
00:42:00,960 --> 00:42:03,880
Speaker 5: But I think that that a lot of the stuff

768
00:42:03,920 --> 00:42:07,920
Speaker 5: that doesn't work and a lot of Snyder was shame,

769
00:42:08,360 --> 00:42:11,920
Speaker 5: Like this is fucking goofy, this is silly. You have

770
00:42:12,120 --> 00:42:14,520
Speaker 5: to make it serious, you have to make it important.

771
00:42:15,160 --> 00:42:20,040
Speaker 5: And I think the thing that I love about James

772
00:42:20,120 --> 00:42:25,440
Speaker 5: Gunn there is no shame, and what he does the

773
00:42:25,520 --> 00:42:29,040
Speaker 5: Polka Dot Man looks like the Polka Dot Man is

774
00:42:29,120 --> 00:42:29,600
Speaker 5: a shark.

775
00:42:29,840 --> 00:42:33,840
Speaker 4: Rocket raccoon is a raccoon, you know, and he really

776
00:42:34,000 --> 00:42:36,799
Speaker 4: embraces the silliness of it all.

777
00:42:37,040 --> 00:42:39,040
Speaker 5: And and a lot of times I think that that

778
00:42:39,640 --> 00:42:42,800
Speaker 5: can work, you know that when the Deadpool costume looks

779
00:42:42,920 --> 00:42:47,160
Speaker 5: like fucking Deadpool, and you know, there was a lot

780
00:42:47,239 --> 00:42:49,000
Speaker 5: of I feel like there was a lot of shame

781
00:42:49,800 --> 00:42:52,759
Speaker 5: in a lot of the early two thousands movies. You know, yes,

782
00:42:53,080 --> 00:42:57,120
Speaker 5: fucking yellow spandex and everyone's wearing black leather outfits. And

783
00:42:57,360 --> 00:42:59,840
Speaker 5: you know, we have to show that this isn't just

784
00:43:00,120 --> 00:43:03,120
Speaker 5: for kids, and it's like, so it is a kid's

785
00:43:03,160 --> 00:43:07,600
Speaker 5: world and to visit it, yes, and feel like.

786
00:43:07,640 --> 00:43:12,759
Speaker 4: A kid for a few hours. Yes, And I was

787
00:43:12,880 --> 00:43:14,040
Speaker 4: the last thing I was gonna say, it was like

788
00:43:14,080 --> 00:43:18,520
Speaker 4: and I think like that was part of like the appeal.

789
00:43:19,120 --> 00:43:19,239
Speaker 6: Uh.

790
00:43:19,600 --> 00:43:22,600
Speaker 5: You know, you look at like Spider Verse and so

791
00:43:22,680 --> 00:43:25,920
Speaker 5: many of the sequels aren't doing as well, and that

792
00:43:26,239 --> 00:43:28,520
Speaker 5: one is doing so much better than the first, Like,

793
00:43:29,480 --> 00:43:32,120
Speaker 5: and that movie does not have any shame to it

794
00:43:32,360 --> 00:43:37,400
Speaker 5: is an complete on abashed love letter to comic books

795
00:43:37,640 --> 00:43:41,759
Speaker 5: and Spider Man. Yes, and you know it's like we

796
00:43:41,880 --> 00:43:44,480
Speaker 5: don't want to feel weird about ship and it's like

797
00:43:44,600 --> 00:43:47,440
Speaker 5: it's not it's not odd to be a nerd anymore.

798
00:43:48,040 --> 00:43:50,880
Speaker 5: It is a socially acceptable thing. And worse than that,

799
00:43:50,960 --> 00:43:52,640
Speaker 5: it's a business and they know they can make money

800
00:43:52,640 --> 00:43:52,920
Speaker 5: off of it.

801
00:43:53,080 --> 00:43:53,200
Speaker 4: Right.

802
00:43:53,440 --> 00:44:02,080
Speaker 5: But but the more that you know, because we love

803
00:44:02,160 --> 00:44:04,080
Speaker 5: it when we talk to each other and we don't

804
00:44:04,120 --> 00:44:07,000
Speaker 5: have shame and we make references to each other, and

805
00:44:07,120 --> 00:44:10,080
Speaker 5: we want our culture that we consume to make us

806
00:44:10,120 --> 00:44:15,400
Speaker 5: feel that welcome, too, right, And we want the illusion

807
00:44:15,520 --> 00:44:19,239
Speaker 5: of it just being entertainment. And when it does feel

808
00:44:19,320 --> 00:44:22,200
Speaker 5: like a business, also when we watch something and it

809
00:44:22,239 --> 00:44:25,439
Speaker 5: feels like you're just selling me on something that takes

810
00:44:25,480 --> 00:44:26,160
Speaker 5: the fun out of it.

811
00:44:26,600 --> 00:44:29,560
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, yeah, I agree.

812
00:44:29,600 --> 00:44:34,040
Speaker 6: And I think for me, Mike, people who take something

813
00:44:34,160 --> 00:44:36,480
Speaker 6: that was designed for children, which is why most people

814
00:44:36,520 --> 00:44:39,040
Speaker 6: get when most people get into comics anywhere as children.

815
00:44:39,600 --> 00:44:41,640
Speaker 6: I didn't read my first comic until I was like

816
00:44:41,640 --> 00:44:42,080
Speaker 6: an adult.

817
00:44:42,160 --> 00:44:44,160
Speaker 2: I knew they were around, I knew they resisted, but

818
00:44:44,640 --> 00:44:46,759
Speaker 2: I remember we was at Barnes and I want to

819
00:44:46,760 --> 00:44:51,279
Speaker 2: say Barnes and Noble, and project was looking for comic

820
00:44:51,320 --> 00:44:52,759
Speaker 2: books and stuff, and I happened to look up on

821
00:44:52,840 --> 00:44:54,680
Speaker 2: the rack, and I love cartoons.

822
00:44:54,680 --> 00:44:56,399
Speaker 1: So I started seeing like Scooby.

823
00:44:56,080 --> 00:44:59,920
Speaker 2: Doo, Hoalfpuff Girls, a Smurflight all on the old school

824
00:45:00,120 --> 00:45:02,000
Speaker 2: spin around thing, and I.

825
00:45:02,160 --> 00:45:05,120
Speaker 1: Was like, ooh, I love the Powerpuff Girls.

826
00:45:05,760 --> 00:45:07,880
Speaker 6: And I read one issue and it was exactly like

827
00:45:07,960 --> 00:45:11,360
Speaker 6: the cartoon, and so like it was, now we had

828
00:45:11,480 --> 00:45:13,680
Speaker 6: double the problem because he would walk in there.

829
00:45:14,600 --> 00:45:17,160
Speaker 2: And be getting like serious shit, and I'd been like, yeah,

830
00:45:17,200 --> 00:45:17,760
Speaker 2: y'all got.

831
00:45:17,680 --> 00:45:20,920
Speaker 1: Powerpuff episode two, season three, you know.

832
00:45:21,920 --> 00:45:24,880
Speaker 2: And so from there I was like read you know,

833
00:45:24,960 --> 00:45:27,800
Speaker 2: weekly or monthly, and so that kind of got my

834
00:45:27,880 --> 00:45:30,160
Speaker 2: addiction to it, and then I started brand kind of

835
00:45:30,280 --> 00:45:33,120
Speaker 2: branching off into other things. As I tell people, if

836
00:45:33,239 --> 00:45:35,400
Speaker 2: you never read comic books before, you think comic books

837
00:45:35,400 --> 00:45:39,839
Speaker 2: are silly or stupid, I say, there is something from

838
00:45:39,880 --> 00:45:40,960
Speaker 2: your childhood that you love.

839
00:45:41,120 --> 00:45:42,960
Speaker 1: It is in the comic book somewhere. You just have

840
00:45:43,080 --> 00:45:43,759
Speaker 1: to go find it.

841
00:45:44,040 --> 00:45:47,640
Speaker 6: Somebody somewhare thought about you and was like, I'm that person,

842
00:45:47,760 --> 00:45:50,600
Speaker 6: and they wrote it. Nobody how ridiculous it is, no

843
00:45:50,719 --> 00:45:52,719
Speaker 6: matter how silly it is, nobody how goofy it is.

844
00:45:52,800 --> 00:45:55,040
Speaker 1: And also, you know what, when I go to the

845
00:45:55,160 --> 00:45:56,719
Speaker 1: movie theater, you know what I want to do?

846
00:45:56,920 --> 00:45:59,120
Speaker 4: Check out of the real world.

847
00:46:00,120 --> 00:46:02,040
Speaker 6: And so when I go into the movie theater, I

848
00:46:02,160 --> 00:46:04,560
Speaker 6: want you to be over the top. I want the

849
00:46:04,640 --> 00:46:07,720
Speaker 6: costumes to be bright. I want you to do silly stuff.

850
00:46:07,840 --> 00:46:10,279
Speaker 6: I want you to take me out out of just

851
00:46:10,400 --> 00:46:12,840
Speaker 6: the reality. I come here and now we're two or

852
00:46:12,880 --> 00:46:14,000
Speaker 6: three to check out.

853
00:46:14,280 --> 00:46:16,200
Speaker 2: And so when people go, when people go, this has

854
00:46:16,239 --> 00:46:19,040
Speaker 2: to be based in reality, says oh, it's a comic book.

855
00:46:19,160 --> 00:46:20,320
Speaker 1: It's not based in reality.

856
00:46:20,440 --> 00:46:22,400
Speaker 2: Well, I think he said it earlier, but it was

857
00:46:22,520 --> 00:46:24,360
Speaker 2: the shame and I can feel it too, Like I

858
00:46:24,520 --> 00:46:28,320
Speaker 2: remember seeing the X Men and the leather suits and

859
00:46:28,520 --> 00:46:32,240
Speaker 2: being like, well, when are they gonna put on their suits?

860
00:46:32,640 --> 00:46:35,040
Speaker 2: You know, like like like it's near the end of

861
00:46:35,120 --> 00:46:37,120
Speaker 2: the movie, especially in the third act, when they're like,

862
00:46:37,160 --> 00:46:39,000
Speaker 2: all right, it's trying to go fight Magneto at the

863
00:46:39,040 --> 00:46:41,560
Speaker 2: Statue of Liberty. I'm like, all right, man, let's get

864
00:46:41,560 --> 00:46:43,880
Speaker 2: the fucking visor out, Let's get the fucking yellow and

865
00:46:44,360 --> 00:46:47,279
Speaker 2: and it's just not gonna happen. Disappointed, Yeah, it's and

866
00:46:47,719 --> 00:46:49,960
Speaker 2: like I don't like hate that movie or anything like

867
00:46:50,080 --> 00:46:52,719
Speaker 2: at the time, I did like the movie because I

868
00:46:52,880 --> 00:46:55,799
Speaker 2: was like, oh man, we never had anyone that gave

869
00:46:55,880 --> 00:46:58,960
Speaker 2: a fuck this month even though this isn't you know,

870
00:46:59,080 --> 00:47:01,320
Speaker 2: like James Gunn he does now. It was like the

871
00:47:01,440 --> 00:47:03,560
Speaker 2: start of something of like, oh, they went and got

872
00:47:03,640 --> 00:47:06,520
Speaker 2: real actors and they fucking like did a thing that

873
00:47:06,719 --> 00:47:10,560
Speaker 2: I enjoyed. But it was like a bit of like, guys,

874
00:47:10,719 --> 00:47:12,840
Speaker 2: the cool people are gonna beat us up if they

875
00:47:12,920 --> 00:47:15,880
Speaker 2: find out what we're intel. Put him in leather suits,

876
00:47:16,160 --> 00:47:19,239
Speaker 2: make you Jackman at Wolverine. He's gotta be six foot

877
00:47:19,280 --> 00:47:22,000
Speaker 2: two in diesel, And you're just like, all right, Coase enough,

878
00:47:22,080 --> 00:47:23,360
Speaker 2: let's just fucking let's just do it.

879
00:47:23,520 --> 00:47:27,000
Speaker 6: And the thing is, it doesn't make sense, like like

880
00:47:27,200 --> 00:47:30,040
Speaker 6: it's one of those things where you're targeting an audience

881
00:47:30,120 --> 00:47:33,040
Speaker 6: that does not care, and like that's the thing you're

882
00:47:33,080 --> 00:47:35,279
Speaker 6: trying to go because I understand you want to make

883
00:47:35,320 --> 00:47:35,840
Speaker 6: it broader.

884
00:47:35,880 --> 00:47:36,920
Speaker 1: I understand you trying.

885
00:47:37,080 --> 00:47:39,600
Speaker 6: You're trying to make as much money as possible, but

886
00:47:39,719 --> 00:47:41,839
Speaker 6: there are times where it's an audience out there you're

887
00:47:41,920 --> 00:47:44,320
Speaker 6: never gonna capture, yes, And that's okay.

888
00:47:44,520 --> 00:47:49,000
Speaker 2: Well, I think up until that time, things before were

889
00:47:49,080 --> 00:47:53,440
Speaker 2: so cheaply done and bad yes, that it felt like

890
00:47:53,520 --> 00:47:56,600
Speaker 2: a godsend to have like Blade. I remember when Blade

891
00:47:56,680 --> 00:48:00,120
Speaker 2: came out and I was like Oh my god, they

892
00:48:00,200 --> 00:48:02,880
Speaker 2: gave a fuck like the whole like like it was

893
00:48:02,960 --> 00:48:05,719
Speaker 2: like watching a sporting event where like you're rooting for

894
00:48:05,840 --> 00:48:09,560
Speaker 2: the team that is like up, but it's getting close

895
00:48:09,600 --> 00:48:11,080
Speaker 2: at the end and you're like, they're gonna fucking blow

896
00:48:11,120 --> 00:48:13,200
Speaker 2: this game. That's how Blade was for me, because I

897
00:48:13,320 --> 00:48:15,000
Speaker 2: was like, they're gonna fucking blow it somehow at the

898
00:48:15,080 --> 00:48:16,600
Speaker 2: end because they never get.

899
00:48:16,480 --> 00:48:17,920
Speaker 3: This right, and they nailed it.

900
00:48:18,080 --> 00:48:20,120
Speaker 2: And I was like, oh, so it is possible to

901
00:48:20,200 --> 00:48:23,160
Speaker 2: have like inspired stuff from comic books that actually is good.

902
00:48:23,680 --> 00:48:25,800
Speaker 2: And I think, you know, X Men was a good step,

903
00:48:25,960 --> 00:48:28,000
Speaker 2: and I think we're kind of I guess probably like

904
00:48:28,160 --> 00:48:30,960
Speaker 2: two years removed from the the height of the height,

905
00:48:31,120 --> 00:48:34,120
Speaker 2: you know, like end game level, like everything's just fucking great.

906
00:48:34,520 --> 00:48:37,759
Speaker 2: And now I think we're where comic books are. Sometimes

907
00:48:37,920 --> 00:48:40,799
Speaker 2: you get a great fucking comic book. It's like rolling

908
00:48:40,880 --> 00:48:43,719
Speaker 2: dicey like sometimes you read them all and then you go,

909
00:48:44,239 --> 00:48:46,880
Speaker 2: oh man, three of those were great and none of

910
00:48:46,920 --> 00:48:50,200
Speaker 2: those fucking sucks. And that's kind of where we are now,

911
00:48:50,280 --> 00:48:53,040
Speaker 2: and that's that feels more realistic and healthy. Honestly.

912
00:48:55,120 --> 00:49:03,160
Speaker 5: Yeah, Friday is the new Wednesday. Yeah, Yeah, a new

913
00:49:03,239 --> 00:49:05,560
Speaker 5: thing comes out and you might like it, you might not.

914
00:49:05,760 --> 00:49:09,000
Speaker 5: And I mean, I think it's also it's like you

915
00:49:09,120 --> 00:49:12,719
Speaker 5: look at the number one grossing movie of the year,

916
00:49:13,360 --> 00:49:17,360
Speaker 5: it was the Mario movie. Yes after that movie is

917
00:49:18,600 --> 00:49:20,040
Speaker 5: completely shameless.

918
00:49:20,520 --> 00:49:20,759
Speaker 2: Yeah.

919
00:49:21,000 --> 00:49:25,200
Speaker 5: Literally, it's like, here is everything you want from this

920
00:49:25,880 --> 00:49:29,240
Speaker 5: property in the movie in ninety minutes.

921
00:49:29,680 --> 00:49:31,840
Speaker 4: We it's like I want to pay for it and

922
00:49:31,920 --> 00:49:33,759
Speaker 4: I want you to give it to me. And and

923
00:49:33,880 --> 00:49:35,200
Speaker 4: people were fucking happy.

924
00:49:35,440 --> 00:49:35,680
Speaker 5: Yeah.

925
00:49:36,680 --> 00:49:39,560
Speaker 4: I remember that first Mario movie. I was ten years old,

926
00:49:40,160 --> 00:49:42,600
Speaker 4: you know, and I was like, this is this is

927
00:49:42,760 --> 00:49:44,600
Speaker 4: not good. This is like embarrassing.

928
00:49:44,880 --> 00:49:48,359
Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, and like seeing this new one, it's

929
00:49:48,440 --> 00:49:52,279
Speaker 5: like there's a there's a joy to that Yes movie,

930
00:49:52,400 --> 00:49:55,279
Speaker 5: there's like a fun to it. And you know, Top Gun,

931
00:49:55,400 --> 00:49:59,239
Speaker 5: Last Year of Averick, like they where it's just you know,

932
00:49:59,480 --> 00:50:02,880
Speaker 5: I say, I think that we've been cynical.

933
00:50:02,520 --> 00:50:05,000
Speaker 4: For so long that, like you said, people like jump

934
00:50:05,040 --> 00:50:08,000
Speaker 4: to the negative. Yeah, but you know, like Karen you said.

935
00:50:07,800 --> 00:50:09,680
Speaker 5: When we go to the theater, we want to feel

936
00:50:09,840 --> 00:50:13,799
Speaker 5: joy and we want positivity, we want you know, earnestness.

937
00:50:14,200 --> 00:50:18,640
Speaker 5: Like I mean, it's like I look like I think

938
00:50:18,680 --> 00:50:21,719
Speaker 5: that those those Avatar movies are so morally.

939
00:50:21,440 --> 00:50:25,120
Speaker 4: Written and it kind of silly, but it's like, you know,

940
00:50:25,280 --> 00:50:27,520
Speaker 4: you get, you're getting what you're paying for.

941
00:50:27,960 --> 00:50:31,319
Speaker 3: Listen. I honestly, the avatar movies to me.

942
00:50:31,719 --> 00:50:35,200
Speaker 4: Are that don't work. You are being transported to another world.

943
00:50:35,680 --> 00:50:40,600
Speaker 2: Yes, the avatar movies to me are like what cinema

944
00:50:40,880 --> 00:50:44,359
Speaker 2: is like in the end that it is the one

945
00:50:44,480 --> 00:50:46,560
Speaker 2: time you can go. The only way you're gonna enjoy

946
00:50:46,640 --> 00:50:50,040
Speaker 2: this is going in IMAX three D whatever the fuck

947
00:50:50,520 --> 00:50:53,600
Speaker 2: and seeing it in a theater somewhere because it just

948
00:50:53,680 --> 00:50:56,320
Speaker 2: ain't gonna hit the same on the small screen in

949
00:50:56,400 --> 00:50:58,920
Speaker 2: your house. It ain't gonna be the same. The elements

950
00:50:58,960 --> 00:51:01,839
Speaker 2: that make this good good or whatever can only happen

951
00:51:01,920 --> 00:51:06,960
Speaker 2: in this one fucking specific place and never and never again. Yeah.

952
00:51:07,040 --> 00:51:09,680
Speaker 2: So so like, to me, that's a different type of like,

953
00:51:10,400 --> 00:51:13,400
Speaker 2: uh uh, that's a different type of experience that I

954
00:51:13,520 --> 00:51:16,160
Speaker 2: did enjoy. And I knew when it's like this ship

955
00:51:16,280 --> 00:51:19,080
Speaker 2: was like three hours some shit, I knew. I was like, fuck, man,

956
00:51:19,120 --> 00:51:20,719
Speaker 2: I gotta see it in the theater. I just won't

957
00:51:20,840 --> 00:51:23,520
Speaker 2: enjoy this at all, and I and I don't.

958
00:51:23,560 --> 00:51:26,759
Speaker 3: And the writing is very simplistic and predictable.

959
00:51:26,960 --> 00:51:29,560
Speaker 2: It just don't matter when your brain is just fucking

960
00:51:29,760 --> 00:51:32,760
Speaker 2: like getting that three D goodness.

961
00:51:35,480 --> 00:51:36,120
Speaker 3: In your brain.

962
00:51:36,880 --> 00:51:40,000
Speaker 5: Yeah, when you're at home, it's like, you know, the

963
00:51:40,120 --> 00:51:42,640
Speaker 5: writing has to be doing some of the work, the

964
00:51:42,800 --> 00:51:44,520
Speaker 5: acting has to be doing right.

965
00:51:45,239 --> 00:51:47,960
Speaker 2: You can easy to be distracted, Yeah, yeah, you can

966
00:51:48,040 --> 00:51:49,560
Speaker 2: easy to be distracted at home.

967
00:51:49,840 --> 00:51:52,759
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think you know. Uh, the best way to

968
00:51:52,800 --> 00:51:53,880
Speaker 3: put it is to say.

969
00:51:54,360 --> 00:51:57,560
Speaker 4: If you put thought entertainum, that is something Jim.

970
00:51:58,280 --> 00:52:00,800
Speaker 2: He didn't, So why are you doing that? Wasn't the

971
00:52:00,840 --> 00:52:03,880
Speaker 2: point of that? Like, I think the best way to

972
00:52:03,920 --> 00:52:06,640
Speaker 2: put it is that we come to this place for magic. Okay.

973
00:52:07,640 --> 00:52:10,320
Speaker 2: We come to AMC theaters to laugh, to cry, to

974
00:52:10,520 --> 00:52:14,600
Speaker 2: care because we need that, all of us, you know,

975
00:52:14,880 --> 00:52:17,880
Speaker 2: that's what we want, That indescrible feeling we get when

976
00:52:17,920 --> 00:52:19,839
Speaker 2: the lights again to them and we go somewhere we've

977
00:52:19,920 --> 00:52:25,480
Speaker 2: never seen before, not just entertained, but somehow reborn together

978
00:52:26,640 --> 00:52:30,719
Speaker 2: dazzling images on a huge sel. This. Oh okay, he

979
00:52:30,800 --> 00:52:33,960
Speaker 2: already knows heartbreak feels good.

980
00:52:34,040 --> 00:52:38,279
Speaker 1: In a place like this, it doesn't feel good. That's

981
00:52:38,360 --> 00:52:41,080
Speaker 1: why I came. Me and Roger got a running joke.

982
00:52:41,120 --> 00:52:43,080
Speaker 6: Every time she comes on the screen, I salute her

983
00:52:43,120 --> 00:52:45,359
Speaker 6: because Roger made a joke about that woman And huh,

984
00:52:45,640 --> 00:52:46,040
Speaker 6: came out.

985
00:52:46,080 --> 00:52:48,239
Speaker 2: Hall, Yeah, I made I made the mistake. I'm making

986
00:52:48,280 --> 00:52:50,000
Speaker 2: a joke about it on Twitter. I was like, I'm

987
00:52:50,000 --> 00:52:51,600
Speaker 2: already the theater. Why do I need to hear this?

988
00:52:51,840 --> 00:52:54,759
Speaker 2: And so many people were like, you don't get it,

989
00:52:54,960 --> 00:52:58,560
Speaker 2: and they were right. They were actually right. I get

990
00:52:58,600 --> 00:53:01,759
Speaker 2: it now and I every time I can stand up

991
00:53:01,800 --> 00:53:05,000
Speaker 2: to it. It's my pledge of allegiance. Uh, and I

992
00:53:05,120 --> 00:53:08,400
Speaker 2: respect it because that's why I'm here. Mike. You are

993
00:53:08,440 --> 00:53:12,600
Speaker 2: also talking about becoming a father, which is something that

994
00:53:12,719 --> 00:53:16,280
Speaker 2: happened in the pandemic as well. You've been very open

995
00:53:16,360 --> 00:53:21,360
Speaker 2: about like the journey for like adopting a child and

996
00:53:21,560 --> 00:53:25,160
Speaker 2: and how and the difficulties of it and stuff. First

997
00:53:25,160 --> 00:53:27,919
Speaker 2: of all, what what was the impost that make made

998
00:53:28,000 --> 00:53:30,480
Speaker 2: you and the Dina go? You know, let's look into adoption.

999
00:53:34,160 --> 00:53:35,719
Speaker 4: I came in or nothing came out?

1000
00:53:41,160 --> 00:53:43,640
Speaker 2: So the opposite of Nick Cannon, all right, you got

1001
00:53:43,680 --> 00:53:44,560
Speaker 2: the opposite problem.

1002
00:53:45,239 --> 00:53:46,520
Speaker 1: You have a missus.

1003
00:53:51,600 --> 00:53:59,239
Speaker 4: So broken. Let's just let's just say there's there's no

1004
00:53:59,480 --> 00:54:05,160
Speaker 4: music come from my drum line. H.

1005
00:54:05,360 --> 00:54:07,400
Speaker 3: So you aren't doing a wild and pull out method.

1006
00:54:07,960 --> 00:54:09,480
Speaker 4: I am. I am wild and in.

1007
00:54:15,280 --> 00:54:18,239
Speaker 2: So like what stars that conversation where you're like like,

1008
00:54:18,360 --> 00:54:19,960
Speaker 2: did you bring it up? Does she bring it up?

1009
00:54:20,000 --> 00:54:20,600
Speaker 3: How's that work?

1010
00:54:23,560 --> 00:54:26,919
Speaker 5: No, we were just like, okay, so let's figure this out.

1011
00:54:27,080 --> 00:54:29,920
Speaker 5: And and we looked into it, and you know, we

1012
00:54:30,160 --> 00:54:33,120
Speaker 5: we thought about other means and as like, I think

1013
00:54:33,200 --> 00:54:37,120
Speaker 5: that this seems the best for us for who we are,

1014
00:54:38,320 --> 00:54:41,280
Speaker 5: and so h yeah, we we call it an agency,

1015
00:54:42,280 --> 00:54:46,000
Speaker 5: and you know, they started giving us information and then

1016
00:54:46,200 --> 00:54:50,719
Speaker 5: you know, we were in the process and we got

1017
00:54:50,760 --> 00:54:55,520
Speaker 5: our first match, like I want to say, six seven

1018
00:54:55,600 --> 00:55:02,080
Speaker 5: months after first starting the process, and uh, you know,

1019
00:55:02,160 --> 00:55:04,279
Speaker 5: you make like a dating profile and and and the

1020
00:55:04,400 --> 00:55:05,120
Speaker 5: moms pick you.

1021
00:55:05,280 --> 00:55:06,000
Speaker 4: That's how it works.

1022
00:55:06,040 --> 00:55:10,319
Speaker 6: Oh wow, yeah, that's probably better hit right, white love

1023
00:55:10,880 --> 00:55:13,600
Speaker 6: doing it the other way around for a lot of discrimination.

1024
00:55:13,880 --> 00:55:16,120
Speaker 6: It's a lot of you know, I prefer you to

1025
00:55:16,280 --> 00:55:18,719
Speaker 6: have you know, red hair, if you to have blue eye.

1026
00:55:18,719 --> 00:55:22,280
Speaker 6: So they just kind of making it easier for the moms.

1027
00:55:22,440 --> 00:55:24,640
Speaker 2: Okay, and I can see that. Wow.

1028
00:55:25,480 --> 00:55:25,680
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1029
00:55:26,480 --> 00:55:28,640
Speaker 2: Do you get like a notification when you get picked?

1030
00:55:28,680 --> 00:55:33,120
Speaker 4: So you know, well, they yeah, they call you, they like,

1031
00:55:33,160 --> 00:55:36,040
Speaker 4: oh they picked you, and you know, your lawyer calls you.

1032
00:55:36,160 --> 00:55:38,200
Speaker 4: It's like yeah, I mean it's like you're you know,

1033
00:55:38,920 --> 00:55:41,879
Speaker 4: you know, we're we're straight middle class, like we're going

1034
00:55:41,960 --> 00:55:43,880
Speaker 4: up against rich gays. Man our profiles.

1035
00:55:44,520 --> 00:55:47,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, you better be on the rich gays, not playing

1036
00:55:47,520 --> 00:55:51,320
Speaker 2: right now down here in these streets the babies.

1037
00:55:55,760 --> 00:55:57,880
Speaker 5: But yeah, so so you know, so we we got

1038
00:55:58,000 --> 00:56:01,279
Speaker 5: a match and you know, you you talked to the

1039
00:56:01,360 --> 00:56:06,239
Speaker 5: mom on the phone. We flew out to meet her, and.

1040
00:56:06,280 --> 00:56:08,359
Speaker 4: Then you know, it was like she had the kid

1041
00:56:08,480 --> 00:56:11,239
Speaker 4: and she didn't place. She's like, I want to keep

1042
00:56:11,400 --> 00:56:14,279
Speaker 4: my kid, and we're like, you're allowed to do that.

1043
00:56:14,920 --> 00:56:16,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, it happens.

1044
00:56:18,160 --> 00:56:22,279
Speaker 4: Oh man, that happened twice. Oh man, it happens a lot.

1045
00:56:23,160 --> 00:56:25,520
Speaker 2: Did you think about going like raising Arizona after that?

1046
00:56:26,040 --> 00:56:31,440
Speaker 4: Yeah? And oh it's so funny.

1047
00:56:31,440 --> 00:56:35,040
Speaker 5: I always I always say, like Joe Businessess like prepared

1048
00:56:35,120 --> 00:56:39,880
Speaker 5: me so well. The first moms are still so much nicer,

1049
00:56:41,160 --> 00:56:43,759
Speaker 5: you know, like, you know, like a woman told me

1050
00:56:43,960 --> 00:56:46,920
Speaker 5: why I didn't raise their kid, but I still.

1051
00:56:46,760 --> 00:56:48,680
Speaker 4: Don't know why I'm not writing for Jimmy Fallons.

1052
00:56:55,520 --> 00:56:56,440
Speaker 2: It's a great point.

1053
00:56:57,239 --> 00:56:59,120
Speaker 4: At least at least, you know, at least those moms

1054
00:56:59,200 --> 00:56:59,960
Speaker 4: read my fucking past.

1055
00:57:00,400 --> 00:57:00,560
Speaker 2: Right.

1056
00:57:08,960 --> 00:57:13,719
Speaker 4: Oh so, you know, so then the third mom that we.

1057
00:57:13,840 --> 00:57:18,120
Speaker 5: Connected with that that ended up being Logan's mom and

1058
00:57:19,560 --> 00:57:21,880
Speaker 5: you know she had the baby a month early.

1059
00:57:21,920 --> 00:57:24,400
Speaker 4: It was like my water broke and we had to

1060
00:57:24,480 --> 00:57:28,320
Speaker 4: go to Florida to get him.

1061
00:57:28,680 --> 00:57:32,000
Speaker 2: What Florida is where you're originally from as well? Right?

1062
00:57:35,040 --> 00:57:35,280
Speaker 4: Yeah?

1063
00:57:35,400 --> 00:57:39,600
Speaker 5: So I always I say this to like, you know,

1064
00:57:39,840 --> 00:57:42,120
Speaker 5: the goal of a parent is to make sure your

1065
00:57:42,240 --> 00:57:45,320
Speaker 5: kid doesn't have your kid has a better life than you.

1066
00:57:45,400 --> 00:57:47,720
Speaker 4: And I'm like, I took him out of Florida eighteen

1067
00:57:47,840 --> 00:57:48,200
Speaker 4: days and.

1068
00:57:51,040 --> 00:57:53,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, you can never you can achieve it accomplished.

1069
00:57:53,960 --> 00:57:56,000
Speaker 2: No matter what happens in this kid's life, they can

1070
00:57:56,400 --> 00:57:58,080
Speaker 2: they can never look back at you and say that

1071
00:57:58,160 --> 00:58:00,480
Speaker 2: you let them down because you're like, uh, you could

1072
00:58:00,520 --> 00:58:01,400
Speaker 2: be in Florida right now.

1073
00:58:01,880 --> 00:58:07,560
Speaker 4: Okay, Yeah, I'm just I'm holding up and I'm like,

1074
00:58:07,600 --> 00:58:08,760
Speaker 4: you're not getting his vote.

1075
00:58:09,520 --> 00:58:13,919
Speaker 1: Yes, I'm taking a vote back.

1076
00:58:14,080 --> 00:58:16,280
Speaker 2: I'm gonna actually let him read about black history.

1077
00:58:16,360 --> 00:58:16,960
Speaker 1: How you like that?

1078
00:58:21,960 --> 00:58:25,880
Speaker 2: So like what happens okay now that you like have logan?

1079
00:58:27,680 --> 00:58:30,000
Speaker 2: What happens with the birth mom? Like is it a

1080
00:58:30,080 --> 00:58:32,160
Speaker 2: thing where you get the kid and then there's just

1081
00:58:32,240 --> 00:58:34,480
Speaker 2: like a zero contact thing? Is it you get the

1082
00:58:34,560 --> 00:58:37,160
Speaker 2: kid and it's how do we keep her in contact?

1083
00:58:37,280 --> 00:58:39,520
Speaker 2: Like how does that responsibility weigh on you.

1084
00:58:43,480 --> 00:58:46,320
Speaker 4: It depends, you know, you kind of make a plan together.

1085
00:58:46,640 --> 00:58:46,920
Speaker 2: Okay.

1086
00:58:47,040 --> 00:58:48,920
Speaker 5: You know, so we've talked to her since we've sent

1087
00:58:49,000 --> 00:58:52,400
Speaker 5: her pictures, she sent us pictures, she wrote him a letter,

1088
00:58:52,800 --> 00:58:57,840
Speaker 5: you know, so so there's there's some contact. It's I mean, yeah,

1089
00:58:57,880 --> 00:59:01,280
Speaker 5: it's such an interesting thing. There's so many things to

1090
00:59:01,600 --> 00:59:02,160
Speaker 5: to deal with.

1091
00:59:03,560 --> 00:59:03,760
Speaker 2: You know.

1092
00:59:03,960 --> 00:59:07,640
Speaker 4: He's he's mixed race, right, and it's it's a it's

1093
00:59:07,680 --> 00:59:08,840
Speaker 4: a really funny thing.

1094
00:59:09,760 --> 00:59:13,760
Speaker 5: So his mom's white, his dad's black. And it's so

1095
00:59:14,000 --> 00:59:18,440
Speaker 5: fascinating because I'll talk to people who, you know, when

1096
00:59:18,480 --> 00:59:19,840
Speaker 5: I'm out with him. Like I was on the picket

1097
00:59:19,920 --> 00:59:23,720
Speaker 5: lines last week and I was talking to this black

1098
00:59:23,760 --> 00:59:26,040
Speaker 5: writer that I hadn't met before, and then I mentioned,

1099
00:59:26,840 --> 00:59:27,960
Speaker 5: you know, that he was adopted.

1100
00:59:28,040 --> 00:59:29,920
Speaker 4: He was like, I knew it. I was like, I

1101
00:59:29,960 --> 00:59:30,880
Speaker 4: didn't think he was you.

1102
00:59:34,120 --> 00:59:35,320
Speaker 1: I like the color resolve.

1103
00:59:39,400 --> 00:59:41,240
Speaker 4: He was like, he said to me, He's like, I

1104
00:59:41,440 --> 00:59:43,080
Speaker 4: wasn't sure if you knew.

1105
00:59:43,560 --> 00:59:48,000
Speaker 1: Oh no, I was like, I know, they want to

1106
00:59:48,120 --> 00:59:48,560
Speaker 1: be sure.

1107
00:59:49,560 --> 00:59:51,200
Speaker 2: I didn't want to. I don't want to say that.

1108
00:59:51,480 --> 00:59:53,240
Speaker 1: I didn't want to spot it for me.

1109
00:59:53,640 --> 00:59:57,360
Speaker 2: Listen, I mean, Dina is a is a nice woman.

1110
00:59:57,160 --> 01:00:00,280
Speaker 1: And everything, but you know, I hate to tell you

1111
01:00:00,400 --> 01:00:01,480
Speaker 1: might want to get a test.

1112
01:00:04,120 --> 01:00:07,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, like I'm I'm that guy on.

1113
01:00:07,920 --> 01:00:12,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm a raising. I'm a raised. I won't handlem

1114
01:00:12,840 --> 01:00:15,360
Speaker 2: responsibility daddy, Right.

1115
01:00:15,400 --> 01:00:16,480
Speaker 1: Okay, what the test say?

1116
01:00:16,760 --> 01:00:18,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're like, this guy's getting his heart broke when

1117
01:00:18,760 --> 01:00:20,760
Speaker 2: his DNA test comes back. I don't know what to

1118
01:00:20,840 --> 01:00:24,520
Speaker 2: tell him. That's dope, though, man, And I like, I

1119
01:00:24,840 --> 01:00:29,320
Speaker 2: love watching like your pictures and stuff with Logan because

1120
01:00:29,360 --> 01:00:33,000
Speaker 2: I feel like you're passing on the nerd legacy.

1121
01:00:33,160 --> 01:00:33,320
Speaker 4: Now.

1122
01:00:33,480 --> 01:00:36,920
Speaker 2: I assume when he rebels, he'll be a NFL running

1123
01:00:36,960 --> 01:00:40,200
Speaker 2: back when he's fourteen or something. But as of right now,

1124
01:00:40,280 --> 01:00:43,960
Speaker 2: it's like watching him is like Logan like pajamas and

1125
01:00:44,480 --> 01:00:47,280
Speaker 2: X Men clothes, Like I love this, this is amazing.

1126
01:00:50,200 --> 01:00:52,520
Speaker 4: And the thing is, here's the thing, Rod, he doesn't

1127
01:00:52,520 --> 01:00:54,520
Speaker 4: have my genetics, so he might be a good.

1128
01:00:54,400 --> 01:01:00,000
Speaker 2: As Yeah, a lot of talented athletes come from Florida,

1129
01:01:00,280 --> 01:01:01,920
Speaker 2: Like I don't I don't know if you know, but

1130
01:01:02,160 --> 01:01:05,720
Speaker 2: that's like a that is a huge like talent pool

1131
01:01:06,160 --> 01:01:10,400
Speaker 2: like fuels college football and athletics. So you know, it

1132
01:01:10,560 --> 01:01:16,160
Speaker 2: is conceivable that that his rebellion at fourteen or thirteen

1133
01:01:16,280 --> 01:01:18,960
Speaker 2: or whatever, it's gonna be him coming home with like

1134
01:01:19,040 --> 01:01:21,240
Speaker 2: a football pad and some help and a helmet and

1135
01:01:21,360 --> 01:01:25,200
Speaker 2: being like, no, Dad, I don't I want to play sports.

1136
01:01:25,280 --> 01:01:27,160
Speaker 2: I want to dunk on people.

1137
01:01:27,640 --> 01:01:29,520
Speaker 1: I don't want to be a nerd like you.

1138
01:01:30,360 --> 01:01:31,800
Speaker 3: I'm tired of the Avengers.

1139
01:01:35,920 --> 01:01:40,840
Speaker 1: I want to play real sports. In the comic book, Yeah,

1140
01:01:43,880 --> 01:01:44,160
Speaker 1: you go do.

1141
01:01:44,200 --> 01:01:46,360
Speaker 4: Your homework, son, and watch all eleven seasons.

1142
01:01:47,280 --> 01:01:47,520
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1143
01:01:49,520 --> 01:01:50,400
Speaker 1: What are you doing in here?

1144
01:01:50,480 --> 01:01:52,520
Speaker 3: Watching watching NFL games?

1145
01:01:52,680 --> 01:01:55,160
Speaker 2: You know there's a you know, there's an X Men house.

1146
01:01:56,960 --> 01:01:59,560
Speaker 1: You're not on comic collegey, Son? No, Dad, I'm not.

1147
01:02:02,200 --> 01:02:04,320
Speaker 1: I'm watching it from the web. I'm rebelling.

1148
01:02:04,480 --> 01:02:08,880
Speaker 2: What is this a playbook? Get that out of his house?

1149
01:02:09,560 --> 01:02:11,919
Speaker 1: Only comic book and in this house?

1150
01:02:12,000 --> 01:02:18,640
Speaker 2: Son? Oh man? And then like, what does it feel

1151
01:02:18,720 --> 01:02:23,560
Speaker 2: like being responsible for this life? And you recently, like

1152
01:02:23,640 --> 01:02:29,320
Speaker 2: you said, lost your father. Obviously, our condolences, and you know,

1153
01:02:29,520 --> 01:02:31,880
Speaker 2: by the things I at least see you share about

1154
01:02:31,920 --> 01:02:34,880
Speaker 2: your father, he seemed like it was pretty like supportive

1155
01:02:35,080 --> 01:02:37,880
Speaker 2: or at least not as judgmental of like the nerdery

1156
01:02:38,320 --> 01:02:42,400
Speaker 2: and stuff. So like, you know, is there inspiration that

1157
01:02:42,560 --> 01:02:44,400
Speaker 2: you take from that or is it like you know,

1158
01:02:44,680 --> 01:02:46,840
Speaker 2: like I want to be like my father. I want

1159
01:02:46,880 --> 01:02:49,440
Speaker 2: to be you know, like like like there for him

1160
01:02:49,560 --> 01:02:51,040
Speaker 2: in that way or is it like because I feel

1161
01:02:51,080 --> 01:02:52,720
Speaker 2: like there's only two ways to go with fathers. It's

1162
01:02:52,760 --> 01:02:56,480
Speaker 2: either I want to be just like my dad or

1163
01:02:56,760 --> 01:02:59,160
Speaker 2: I will never be like that motherfucker my dad. I

1164
01:02:59,200 --> 01:02:59,840
Speaker 2: feel like those are.

1165
01:03:07,120 --> 01:03:08,320
Speaker 4: No you know what you know what it is.

1166
01:03:08,400 --> 01:03:11,880
Speaker 5: It's like, you know the best thing about my father,

1167
01:03:12,240 --> 01:03:15,600
Speaker 5: I think, and and I think the most important thing

1168
01:03:16,440 --> 01:03:20,080
Speaker 5: you could be as a parent is just supportive, you know,

1169
01:03:20,240 --> 01:03:24,200
Speaker 5: my my dad and you know, before I did comedy,

1170
01:03:24,280 --> 01:03:25,480
Speaker 5: I did slam poetry.

1171
01:03:26,000 --> 01:03:26,920
Speaker 4: I did slam poetry.

1172
01:03:26,960 --> 01:03:30,360
Speaker 5: But I was a teenager and my dad would take

1173
01:03:30,360 --> 01:03:33,720
Speaker 5: me to slam poetry readings. There was there was a

1174
01:03:33,880 --> 01:03:36,680
Speaker 5: slam poetry reading at the Barnes and Noble and it

1175
01:03:36,760 --> 01:03:40,160
Speaker 5: was mostly attended by senior citizens. My dad took me

1176
01:03:40,360 --> 01:03:42,480
Speaker 5: that because he knew that's what I was into.

1177
01:03:45,400 --> 01:03:56,560
Speaker 2: Of course everyone does, my baby, but he was you know,

1178
01:03:56,680 --> 01:03:57,760
Speaker 2: like I I you know.

1179
01:03:58,240 --> 01:04:01,520
Speaker 5: I did taekwondo for a little bit. I played guitar

1180
01:04:01,640 --> 01:04:03,680
Speaker 5: for a little bit, and you know, and his thing

1181
01:04:03,760 --> 01:04:07,200
Speaker 5: would be like, all right, for Christmas, like this is

1182
01:04:07,280 --> 01:04:09,760
Speaker 5: your present, Here is your fucking guitar, you.

1183
01:04:09,840 --> 01:04:12,360
Speaker 4: Know, you know, like get into it.

1184
01:04:12,840 --> 01:04:14,800
Speaker 5: And then when I decided I didn't want to be

1185
01:04:14,880 --> 01:04:18,000
Speaker 5: into it, he was like, Okay, that's fine, but be

1186
01:04:18,160 --> 01:04:21,000
Speaker 5: into something like his thing was always like I just

1187
01:04:21,120 --> 01:04:26,760
Speaker 5: want you to care about m like whatever that is.

1188
01:04:26,880 --> 01:04:29,120
Speaker 5: You know, I'll take you to the comic shop, I'll

1189
01:04:29,200 --> 01:04:31,240
Speaker 5: do this thing with you. I'll go to the fucking

1190
01:04:31,400 --> 01:04:35,040
Speaker 5: slam poems just you know, like I think it was

1191
01:04:35,120 --> 01:04:39,040
Speaker 5: important like for him, like just be interested in life.

1192
01:04:39,280 --> 01:04:42,680
Speaker 4: You know, ye have something you care about.

1193
01:04:43,400 --> 01:04:46,280
Speaker 2: And I guess with Logan be is so young right now,

1194
01:04:46,840 --> 01:04:49,440
Speaker 2: you don't have like right now, it's interest. I probably

1195
01:04:49,520 --> 01:04:54,160
Speaker 2: like eating, using a bathroom, like it's sleep.

1196
01:04:54,280 --> 01:04:56,200
Speaker 3: It's like you be supportive. But he probably don't have

1197
01:04:56,280 --> 01:04:57,240
Speaker 3: a thing yet, right.

1198
01:04:59,600 --> 01:05:04,280
Speaker 5: Yeah, but he's laughing already. Man, Okay, that's fun, you know,

1199
01:05:04,720 --> 01:05:12,320
Speaker 5: I mean bombing in front of your You'll do like

1200
01:05:12,400 --> 01:05:15,560
Speaker 5: a funny voice. Yeah, and he'll laugh at that funny

1201
01:05:15,640 --> 01:05:16,960
Speaker 5: voice a hundred.

1202
01:05:16,720 --> 01:05:19,640
Speaker 4: Times and then they'll just fucking stare at you like

1203
01:05:19,800 --> 01:05:22,640
Speaker 4: you're the frog that isn't singing Hello my baby. Hello.

1204
01:05:28,000 --> 01:05:29,720
Speaker 2: Do you ever use like do you ever use like

1205
01:05:29,880 --> 01:05:33,160
Speaker 2: hack bit? Are you ever doing like jingling the keys.

1206
01:05:33,440 --> 01:05:35,320
Speaker 2: You know, I heard that's a hack bit that a

1207
01:05:35,400 --> 01:05:36,640
Speaker 2: lot of road comics are using.

1208
01:05:40,120 --> 01:05:46,080
Speaker 5: Yeah, a lot of road parents. Yeah, yeah, like funny voices. Yeah,

1209
01:05:47,640 --> 01:05:50,480
Speaker 5: like he ate blueberries for the first time, like a

1210
01:05:50,760 --> 01:05:52,560
Speaker 5: like a month ago, and I was like, you're the

1211
01:05:52,680 --> 01:05:53,720
Speaker 5: blueberry boy.

1212
01:05:55,720 --> 01:05:58,240
Speaker 4: He laughed so much at that voice, and then I

1213
01:05:58,360 --> 01:06:01,360
Speaker 4: kept doing it, and then I just did it once

1214
01:06:01,440 --> 01:06:03,800
Speaker 4: and it got nothing, and he just stared at me.

1215
01:06:04,720 --> 01:06:06,320
Speaker 4: I was like, why did I ever think that was funny?

1216
01:06:09,120 --> 01:06:09,960
Speaker 1: I'm terrible this.

1217
01:06:10,200 --> 01:06:11,840
Speaker 3: You turn into a comedian who's bombing.

1218
01:06:11,920 --> 01:06:13,840
Speaker 2: You're just like, what else? What else?

1219
01:06:14,760 --> 01:06:17,920
Speaker 1: What those rattles shaking over there?

1220
01:06:17,920 --> 01:06:19,920
Speaker 2: To day? You do for a living man? Where you from.

1221
01:06:23,040 --> 01:06:24,920
Speaker 1: Warm milk, had of warm milk streets?

1222
01:06:27,960 --> 01:06:29,880
Speaker 2: Give it up for yourself. Love, you look great, You

1223
01:06:29,960 --> 01:06:31,240
Speaker 2: look great. Thanks for coming out.

1224
01:06:33,280 --> 01:06:34,520
Speaker 1: I'll be here all night.

1225
01:06:36,000 --> 01:06:37,320
Speaker 2: Oh that's beautiful.

1226
01:06:39,720 --> 01:06:42,320
Speaker 3: But you also talked about going.

1227
01:06:42,200 --> 01:06:46,040
Speaker 2: Out to the picket line to the strike, Like how

1228
01:06:46,240 --> 01:06:47,640
Speaker 2: often have you gone down there?

1229
01:06:48,120 --> 01:06:51,520
Speaker 3: Like is it a like an event? Is it like

1230
01:06:51,640 --> 01:06:52,760
Speaker 3: what's the vibes out there?

1231
01:06:56,240 --> 01:06:57,280
Speaker 4: It depends where you go.

1232
01:06:58,240 --> 01:07:02,520
Speaker 5: You know, I've been and uh, it's a little harder

1233
01:07:02,600 --> 01:07:07,920
Speaker 5: with a with a kid, you know, so, But but

1234
01:07:08,000 --> 01:07:10,880
Speaker 5: I've been with him a couple of times. We went

1235
01:07:10,920 --> 01:07:13,520
Speaker 5: to like Netflix last week. He's eight months so.

1236
01:07:13,600 --> 01:07:15,800
Speaker 4: When I'm like, hey, let's go to Disney, it's not

1237
01:07:15,920 --> 01:07:22,920
Speaker 4: like that depressing, you know, and like.

1238
01:07:24,680 --> 01:07:27,600
Speaker 5: And it's so funny, like you know, like people will

1239
01:07:27,640 --> 01:07:30,680
Speaker 5: be up there and they'll be like, yeah, wait to

1240
01:07:30,760 --> 01:07:31,520
Speaker 5: bring the baby.

1241
01:07:31,600 --> 01:07:33,240
Speaker 4: That's so cool, you brought a baby. And I'm like,

1242
01:07:34,000 --> 01:07:39,760
Speaker 4: I'm not working in childcares expenses, right if I'm you know,

1243
01:07:39,840 --> 01:07:42,240
Speaker 4: if I'm gonna be here, like he's gonna be with

1244
01:07:42,440 --> 01:07:47,040
Speaker 4: me sometimes, right, And it's fun. He loves being outside

1245
01:07:47,080 --> 01:07:49,520
Speaker 4: of those movement. He loves like sleeping through. He sleeps

1246
01:07:49,560 --> 01:07:53,080
Speaker 4: through like the honking horns and all that. It's incredible.

1247
01:07:54,200 --> 01:07:55,840
Speaker 4: But it's yeah, it's been interesting.

1248
01:07:55,920 --> 01:07:57,760
Speaker 5: It was so funny because I went on Yeah, I

1249
01:07:57,800 --> 01:08:01,280
Speaker 5: went on Friday to Disney with him, and that was

1250
01:08:01,320 --> 01:08:04,760
Speaker 5: the first day that Sagged is also striking. Yeah, and

1251
01:08:05,720 --> 01:08:07,880
Speaker 5: and I'm also in SAG, which I know it's weird

1252
01:08:08,040 --> 01:08:09,200
Speaker 5: they put me on screen, but.

1253
01:08:11,440 --> 01:08:12,280
Speaker 4: But I'm in Uh.

1254
01:08:15,800 --> 01:08:18,480
Speaker 5: But I did enough stand up and at midnight appearances

1255
01:08:18,560 --> 01:08:23,120
Speaker 5: that I then became a SAG member, right, so you know,

1256
01:08:23,200 --> 01:08:26,439
Speaker 5: but it was an interesting like because before that when

1257
01:08:26,479 --> 01:08:32,240
Speaker 5: it was just writers, you know, the uh, the sidewalks

1258
01:08:32,280 --> 01:08:35,000
Speaker 5: were a lot less crowded and on on Friday there

1259
01:08:35,040 --> 01:08:38,200
Speaker 5: were people like taking selfies.

1260
01:08:37,840 --> 01:08:39,759
Speaker 4: And yeah stuff.

1261
01:08:39,880 --> 01:08:42,560
Speaker 1: It rejuvenated like this.

1262
01:08:43,120 --> 01:08:45,080
Speaker 4: I saw those women like walk out of a car

1263
01:08:45,600 --> 01:08:48,040
Speaker 4: like like like a fifties movie star. She was like

1264
01:08:48,160 --> 01:08:49,439
Speaker 4: all made up and everything.

1265
01:08:50,040 --> 01:08:54,720
Speaker 2: What Oh my god. I saw I saw someone on

1266
01:08:54,920 --> 01:08:59,200
Speaker 2: Twitter being like, yeah, we're it's SAG striking now and

1267
01:08:59,360 --> 01:09:02,280
Speaker 2: where is netflick? And I was like, we're calling on

1268
01:09:02,400 --> 01:09:07,360
Speaker 2: specific actors now? Is like what is happening? It got that,

1269
01:09:07,520 --> 01:09:09,800
Speaker 2: It got real when SAG got involved, Like you didn't

1270
01:09:09,800 --> 01:09:12,000
Speaker 2: see that during the writer's trike. It wasn't like and

1271
01:09:12,200 --> 01:09:14,120
Speaker 2: where is this particular writer?

1272
01:09:14,800 --> 01:09:17,400
Speaker 3: Like, but with Sagging was like Matt Damon.

1273
01:09:17,240 --> 01:09:18,080
Speaker 2: Ass ain't out here.

1274
01:09:18,240 --> 01:09:20,600
Speaker 1: Because with the SAG, it's like we see y'all on

1275
01:09:20,720 --> 01:09:21,080
Speaker 1: the TV.

1276
01:09:21,520 --> 01:09:23,840
Speaker 2: The writers that go y'all just right, it's almost like

1277
01:09:23,920 --> 01:09:25,719
Speaker 2: y'all are quote unquote less important.

1278
01:09:25,720 --> 01:09:27,760
Speaker 1: But it was like, no, this is the real track

1279
01:09:27,880 --> 01:09:28,200
Speaker 1: right here.

1280
01:09:28,600 --> 01:09:32,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're the beautiful people that say our words right,

1281
01:09:33,160 --> 01:09:34,160
Speaker 2: So it matters now?

1282
01:09:34,680 --> 01:09:38,960
Speaker 6: And how do you think the Director's Guild feel that

1283
01:09:39,120 --> 01:09:42,000
Speaker 6: they would have one that folded and like signed them.

1284
01:09:42,120 --> 01:09:43,439
Speaker 1: That ship ass contract.

1285
01:09:45,280 --> 01:09:46,200
Speaker 2: Man, I don't know.

1286
01:09:47,000 --> 01:09:50,439
Speaker 1: You know the contract is bad because everybody's.

1287
01:09:49,880 --> 01:09:53,519
Speaker 2: Tracking for two weeks, like you signed George to avoid

1288
01:09:53,760 --> 01:09:56,800
Speaker 2: two weeks. And then SAG was like, yes, so no

1289
01:09:56,880 --> 01:09:59,560
Speaker 2: one's filming anything, so I don't know, you can't do

1290
01:09:59,640 --> 01:10:01,920
Speaker 2: your job. Yeah that was weird.

1291
01:10:04,120 --> 01:10:08,000
Speaker 4: Well they're like, well, now I guess we just reality shows.

1292
01:10:08,240 --> 01:10:17,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, yes, come on to the Alan again, Mike. Yeah, yeah,

1293
01:10:17,800 --> 01:10:20,240
Speaker 2: I guess they could do that again. Man, although I

1294
01:10:20,400 --> 01:10:22,600
Speaker 2: heard because of the like.

1295
01:10:22,720 --> 01:10:24,320
Speaker 3: It's been so long since the last strike.

1296
01:10:25,040 --> 01:10:29,560
Speaker 2: My understanding is a lot of reality show people have

1297
01:10:29,800 --> 01:10:35,679
Speaker 2: joined SAG since the advent of the reality show credit. Yeah,

1298
01:10:35,760 --> 01:10:38,719
Speaker 2: so now they like it'll shut down some reality shows

1299
01:10:38,760 --> 01:10:40,840
Speaker 2: even though that's like kind of a byproduct of this

1300
01:10:40,920 --> 01:10:41,280
Speaker 2: whole thing.

1301
01:10:41,400 --> 01:10:44,920
Speaker 1: But then it's not not like it's not not written

1302
01:10:45,040 --> 01:10:47,360
Speaker 1: then yeah, right, Mike.

1303
01:10:47,680 --> 01:10:52,479
Speaker 2: Have you seen any of the scuttle butt online about like, uh,

1304
01:10:53,240 --> 01:10:56,160
Speaker 2: I have from what I've read about like from the

1305
01:10:56,280 --> 01:11:02,760
Speaker 2: SAG like specific policy and the writers guilt. I haven't

1306
01:11:02,760 --> 01:11:05,439
Speaker 2: seen anything that says people can't do this, but online

1307
01:11:05,439 --> 01:11:08,280
Speaker 2: I've seen some scuttle but about like when people are

1308
01:11:08,320 --> 01:11:10,519
Speaker 2: going to like San Diego comic Con, there's people that

1309
01:11:10,600 --> 01:11:14,200
Speaker 2: are like, don't do certain cosplay certain shows and movies

1310
01:11:14,240 --> 01:11:16,000
Speaker 2: and stuff. Have you seen any of that stuff or

1311
01:11:16,120 --> 01:11:17,679
Speaker 2: is anyone talking about that on the ground.

1312
01:11:19,120 --> 01:11:23,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, And I think, like I'm in chats where people

1313
01:11:23,320 --> 01:11:25,360
Speaker 4: even just flow outs. Can I do this thing? Can

1314
01:11:25,439 --> 01:11:26,080
Speaker 4: I do that thing?

1315
01:11:26,280 --> 01:11:26,479
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1316
01:11:26,840 --> 01:11:29,559
Speaker 4: You know, but just the best way to go about it, just.

1317
01:11:29,640 --> 01:11:34,000
Speaker 6: Right, because you don't want to be the one and yeah,

1318
01:11:34,040 --> 01:11:38,040
Speaker 6: you don't want to do what you can Yeah, yeah,

1319
01:11:38,040 --> 01:11:38,240
Speaker 6: I was.

1320
01:11:38,400 --> 01:11:40,040
Speaker 2: I haven't seen like an official policy.

1321
01:11:44,360 --> 01:11:45,800
Speaker 4: Sorry, but comic Con.

1322
01:11:46,080 --> 01:11:49,040
Speaker 5: I feel it's like you can go and you can

1323
01:11:49,920 --> 01:11:52,120
Speaker 5: like I get I could do a signing, but I

1324
01:11:52,240 --> 01:11:56,120
Speaker 5: can't do a panel promoting something.

1325
01:11:55,920 --> 01:11:59,679
Speaker 4: From a company that's been struck, right. Yeah.

1326
01:11:59,840 --> 01:12:03,680
Speaker 5: So it's like if I if I you know, if

1327
01:12:03,720 --> 01:12:06,760
Speaker 5: I'm in the Walking Dad, I could do all you

1328
01:12:06,800 --> 01:12:10,519
Speaker 5: can come to my booth, but I can't, you know,

1329
01:12:10,800 --> 01:12:12,040
Speaker 5: promoted anything on ams.

1330
01:12:12,680 --> 01:12:16,640
Speaker 2: Okay, Okay, that makes sense. I also thought like some

1331
01:12:16,800 --> 01:12:19,840
Speaker 2: of the stuff is also just fans, you know, And

1332
01:12:19,880 --> 01:12:21,840
Speaker 2: I think fans are just trying to be polite and

1333
01:12:22,000 --> 01:12:24,160
Speaker 2: not like piss anybody off. And I think that's like

1334
01:12:24,200 --> 01:12:26,880
Speaker 2: a really cool impulse. But at the same time, It's

1335
01:12:26,920 --> 01:12:28,840
Speaker 2: like if you pay for your travel to Comic Con

1336
01:12:29,120 --> 01:12:31,920
Speaker 2: and you fucking built this suit. I don't know, man,

1337
01:12:32,040 --> 01:12:34,599
Speaker 2: Like I'm not gonna be I personally wouldn't be mad

1338
01:12:34,680 --> 01:12:37,640
Speaker 2: at you for you fucking dressed up like Spider Man.

1339
01:12:37,640 --> 01:12:40,400
Speaker 2: I wouldn't be like this motherfucker right here. But I

1340
01:12:40,560 --> 01:12:43,760
Speaker 2: do think the actors shouldn't go, you know what I mean,

1341
01:12:43,840 --> 01:12:46,120
Speaker 2: Like like I do think we should shut down any

1342
01:12:46,200 --> 01:12:50,120
Speaker 2: panel that we can. You know, like, I'm not gonna

1343
01:12:50,160 --> 01:12:53,040
Speaker 2: knock you for having fun as a as a fan

1344
01:12:53,160 --> 01:12:56,799
Speaker 2: of something, but you know, I think anything like literally

1345
01:12:56,960 --> 01:13:00,120
Speaker 2: work related, strike related, it should be off limit. Is

1346
01:13:00,160 --> 01:13:01,760
Speaker 2: if you you know, if you give a fucking you

1347
01:13:01,800 --> 01:13:05,559
Speaker 2: wanna be a good person. I also keep I don't

1348
01:13:05,560 --> 01:13:07,080
Speaker 2: know if you see this too, but this is mostly

1349
01:13:07,120 --> 01:13:08,840
Speaker 2: an online thing. Every once in a while that is

1350
01:13:08,920 --> 01:13:10,960
Speaker 2: like some person that's not in the industry, that's like

1351
01:13:11,520 --> 01:13:14,120
Speaker 2: I'd crossed the line. I'd write a TV show right now,

1352
01:13:14,560 --> 01:13:16,439
Speaker 2: And I keep wondering, like, how do you think that's

1353
01:13:16,479 --> 01:13:20,680
Speaker 2: gonna work? Because eventually there will be a deal, So

1354
01:13:21,240 --> 01:13:23,080
Speaker 2: what the fuck is gonna happen to you? When you're

1355
01:13:23,160 --> 01:13:26,559
Speaker 2: like the scab motherfucker that was not in the union,

1356
01:13:26,600 --> 01:13:28,519
Speaker 2: I want to work with you, and now like what

1357
01:13:29,040 --> 01:13:30,120
Speaker 2: I don't I don't know, man.

1358
01:13:30,760 --> 01:13:36,680
Speaker 6: And they also say that not understanding that because it's

1359
01:13:36,760 --> 01:13:39,959
Speaker 6: a union, you have like a minimum, and most writers

1360
01:13:40,840 --> 01:13:43,080
Speaker 6: make that minimum a little bit above. And what they

1361
01:13:43,160 --> 01:13:45,160
Speaker 6: don't tell you is that most writers are in the

1362
01:13:45,240 --> 01:13:49,479
Speaker 6: fucking most expensive places in this country. They're in New

1363
01:13:49,560 --> 01:13:52,760
Speaker 6: York or they're out in California, which means you got

1364
01:13:52,840 --> 01:13:54,040
Speaker 6: all these taxes and shit.

1365
01:13:54,360 --> 01:13:56,880
Speaker 1: So when you go, well, it ain't. But but you go, no,

1366
01:13:57,280 --> 01:13:59,120
Speaker 1: that right there is probably equivaled.

1367
01:13:58,760 --> 01:14:01,960
Speaker 2: It to somebody's thirty five forty something thousand dollars jobs

1368
01:14:02,040 --> 01:14:04,680
Speaker 2: somewhere else, Like it is not really what you think

1369
01:14:04,760 --> 01:14:08,840
Speaker 2: it is. Once they stopped paying lawyers agents. Once you start,

1370
01:14:09,000 --> 01:14:13,000
Speaker 2: you know, divvy and gal and taxes, don't yah know,

1371
01:14:13,479 --> 01:14:15,720
Speaker 2: it ain't like it's just funny because like if you

1372
01:14:15,880 --> 01:14:18,760
Speaker 2: just put the solid number up, everyone goes like you

1373
01:14:18,920 --> 01:14:22,479
Speaker 2: made seventy thousand dollars. I don't see the problem. Like, okay,

1374
01:14:22,520 --> 01:14:24,800
Speaker 2: imagine you made that all at once, no taxes were

1375
01:14:24,840 --> 01:14:27,479
Speaker 2: taken out, and then your lawyer had to get their

1376
01:14:27,479 --> 01:14:29,680
Speaker 2: ship first, their agent had to get that ship. Your

1377
01:14:29,720 --> 01:14:32,559
Speaker 2: representation had to get that ship. Then the taxes come

1378
01:14:32,600 --> 01:14:34,519
Speaker 2: out and you got to pay all those people's taxes,

1379
01:14:34,520 --> 01:14:37,519
Speaker 2: by the way, and then you gotta go pay that

1380
01:14:37,640 --> 01:14:40,400
Speaker 2: rent that and that's supposed to last you all year,

1381
01:14:41,200 --> 01:14:43,559
Speaker 2: depending on how much work you get. So like, if

1382
01:14:43,600 --> 01:14:47,000
Speaker 2: you only worked one show, your ass is poor.

1383
01:14:49,439 --> 01:14:52,439
Speaker 1: You broke dog. You got none of us lined up.

1384
01:14:54,120 --> 01:14:56,720
Speaker 3: Oh man, So let me ask you this too.

1385
01:14:56,800 --> 01:15:02,439
Speaker 5: My show before that was a I was gonna say

1386
01:15:02,479 --> 01:15:05,760
Speaker 5: that was a twenty three episode season a lot of times, right,

1387
01:15:06,080 --> 01:15:07,920
Speaker 5: and now it's you know, so much shorter.

1388
01:15:08,600 --> 01:15:10,719
Speaker 4: I was. I was on a show when Logan was born.

1389
01:15:10,960 --> 01:15:12,960
Speaker 5: I was I was in a mini room, you know,

1390
01:15:13,160 --> 01:15:16,200
Speaker 5: and that's one of the things that they're striking against

1391
01:15:16,240 --> 01:15:17,519
Speaker 5: the idea of mini rooms.

1392
01:15:17,960 --> 01:15:21,160
Speaker 4: And I co wrote an episode of the show.

1393
01:15:21,000 --> 01:15:23,200
Speaker 5: That I was on while I was in the nick

1394
01:15:23,280 --> 01:15:27,680
Speaker 5: you taking care of Logan, Wow, because I knew, like

1395
01:15:28,439 --> 01:15:31,400
Speaker 5: how rare it is tough it is to get a job.

1396
01:15:31,560 --> 01:15:33,599
Speaker 4: Yeah. I was like, I'm going to keep this job

1397
01:15:33,720 --> 01:15:37,679
Speaker 4: until it's over, exactly, even though you know, I remember

1398
01:15:37,760 --> 01:15:40,320
Speaker 4: it was like you he was born on a Friday,

1399
01:15:40,320 --> 01:15:43,439
Speaker 4: and I'm like, I'll see you guys on Monday on zoom.

1400
01:15:43,880 --> 01:15:44,080
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1401
01:15:44,920 --> 01:15:49,040
Speaker 5: Yeah, And I explained that everybody was like supportive, but

1402
01:15:49,240 --> 01:15:51,479
Speaker 5: you know it is that thing of like, you know,

1403
01:15:52,280 --> 01:15:54,920
Speaker 5: the work doesn't come around so much that you can

1404
01:15:55,600 --> 01:15:58,320
Speaker 5: say no to it. And I mean, you know, it's

1405
01:15:58,400 --> 01:16:02,679
Speaker 5: it's always that that hilarious thing, and it's a dangerous

1406
01:16:02,760 --> 01:16:08,320
Speaker 5: thing when we become a fan of corporations and.

1407
01:16:08,360 --> 01:16:13,000
Speaker 4: That yes, you know, like that that that even even

1408
01:16:13,080 --> 01:16:17,559
Speaker 4: when you know we are like I I love Disney,

1409
01:16:17,760 --> 01:16:20,840
Speaker 4: but not this or even like Marvel or DC.

1410
01:16:21,080 --> 01:16:24,040
Speaker 5: It's like who cares like like be a fan of

1411
01:16:24,160 --> 01:16:27,439
Speaker 5: like the individuals, like you know, like in sports, right,

1412
01:16:28,240 --> 01:16:30,320
Speaker 5: like fuck the owners.

1413
01:16:30,400 --> 01:16:32,840
Speaker 2: Right, like the like the players. No one's ever rooted

1414
01:16:32,880 --> 01:16:34,320
Speaker 2: for a fucking owner in their life.

1415
01:16:36,920 --> 01:16:37,080
Speaker 4: Now.

1416
01:16:38,000 --> 01:16:39,679
Speaker 2: And then the other thing.

1417
01:16:39,680 --> 01:16:42,280
Speaker 4: Too, who like that Sterling tape? Yeah?

1418
01:16:42,439 --> 01:16:48,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, the other thing too, I'll think about is it

1419
01:16:48,720 --> 01:16:51,479
Speaker 2: changed probably in the last ten to fifteen years. But

1420
01:16:52,120 --> 01:16:55,639
Speaker 2: you used to go to a movie and the box

1421
01:16:55,720 --> 01:16:59,840
Speaker 2: office of the movie wasn't necessarily news like it was

1422
01:17:00,120 --> 01:17:03,240
Speaker 2: it was news if it was groundbreaking, right, So it's like, oh,

1423
01:17:03,400 --> 01:17:05,840
Speaker 2: this movie has made the most money of a movie

1424
01:17:05,920 --> 01:17:08,240
Speaker 2: that came out of his time or something like that.

1425
01:17:08,720 --> 01:17:12,479
Speaker 2: But now it's almost like we're all fucking getting the

1426
01:17:12,600 --> 01:17:16,600
Speaker 2: investor report every like when you get to Sunday and

1427
01:17:16,720 --> 01:17:20,720
Speaker 2: it's always like, this movie had a budget of this much,

1428
01:17:21,080 --> 01:17:24,280
Speaker 2: it made this much this weekend, it's projected to make

1429
01:17:24,360 --> 01:17:26,840
Speaker 2: this much through its entire run. None of that is

1430
01:17:26,920 --> 01:17:30,360
Speaker 2: about how good the movie is. No why like did

1431
01:17:30,439 --> 01:17:31,240
Speaker 2: you enjoy the movie?

1432
01:17:31,360 --> 01:17:31,840
Speaker 3: Was it fun?

1433
01:17:32,840 --> 01:17:35,000
Speaker 2: I don't know. It made one hundred and thirty million

1434
01:17:35,240 --> 01:17:36,920
Speaker 2: AD a budget of two hundred and fifty million if

1435
01:17:36,960 --> 01:17:39,800
Speaker 2: it doesn't cross that, And I think that is also

1436
01:17:40,000 --> 01:17:44,840
Speaker 2: indicative of the working environment because a lot of the

1437
01:17:44,960 --> 01:17:47,280
Speaker 2: shows and stuff you see getting canceled now are just

1438
01:17:47,439 --> 01:17:51,120
Speaker 2: business decisions, and they're nakedly business decisions. It's like, it's

1439
01:17:51,160 --> 01:17:54,280
Speaker 2: not our critical acclaim. There's Emmy nominated shows that they're

1440
01:17:54,320 --> 01:17:57,120
Speaker 2: just like, that's enough of this shit. It's like we

1441
01:17:57,680 --> 01:17:59,600
Speaker 2: gotta get in the red or whatever the fuck you

1442
01:17:59,720 --> 01:18:03,240
Speaker 2: up like something some exec is looking at a balance

1443
01:18:03,280 --> 01:18:05,840
Speaker 2: sheet and being like, shew that shit, we don't want

1444
01:18:05,840 --> 01:18:08,920
Speaker 2: to see Batgirl. Now get two more of these flash

1445
01:18:09,000 --> 01:18:11,559
Speaker 2: movies or whatever. You're just like, that's just business at

1446
01:18:11,600 --> 01:18:14,160
Speaker 2: this point, it's not even art. And uh, I think

1447
01:18:14,200 --> 01:18:16,639
Speaker 2: if we're gonna be business minded, that's why the fuck

1448
01:18:16,680 --> 01:18:18,200
Speaker 2: you strike it's a business.

1449
01:18:18,400 --> 01:18:22,840
Speaker 6: Yes, Also Mike as somebody who kind of understands through

1450
01:18:22,920 --> 01:18:24,240
Speaker 6: rogic but don't.

1451
01:18:24,479 --> 01:18:26,719
Speaker 1: What's the different between a mini room and a regular

1452
01:18:26,840 --> 01:18:28,920
Speaker 1: room or non mini room. What's the difference?

1453
01:18:32,400 --> 01:18:34,559
Speaker 5: I mean a lot of times, like a mini room

1454
01:18:35,040 --> 01:18:38,439
Speaker 5: is they'll they'll do it before like a proper season,

1455
01:18:39,280 --> 01:18:43,640
Speaker 5: you know, so we will will hire these people for

1456
01:18:45,240 --> 01:18:49,320
Speaker 5: eight weeks instead of you know, just hiring everyone for

1457
01:18:49,400 --> 01:18:53,759
Speaker 5: like twenty weeks. Okay, and we could get x amount

1458
01:18:53,760 --> 01:18:57,320
Speaker 5: of scripts written in that time. We could expedate those scripts.

1459
01:18:58,040 --> 01:18:59,599
Speaker 5: We could even write the whole fucking show.

1460
01:18:59,800 --> 01:19:03,240
Speaker 2: So you're not there with everybody else, is sorry, So

1461
01:19:03,320 --> 01:19:05,400
Speaker 2: you're not there with everybody else, so you get all

1462
01:19:05,479 --> 01:19:07,800
Speaker 2: this input so it can so it can grow and

1463
01:19:07,920 --> 01:19:11,760
Speaker 2: be modified and changed. You know, the actors might do

1464
01:19:11,960 --> 01:19:14,879
Speaker 2: something or you know, so all that process is eliminated

1465
01:19:14,920 --> 01:19:16,200
Speaker 2: because you're doing it up front.

1466
01:19:16,080 --> 01:19:21,000
Speaker 5: Right, Well, some of that is, and you know, and

1467
01:19:21,080 --> 01:19:25,479
Speaker 5: a big thing now is less people are hired for longer,

1468
01:19:25,600 --> 01:19:28,600
Speaker 5: so so the less writers are on set. So you

1469
01:19:28,840 --> 01:19:31,799
Speaker 5: used to make money that way, you know. I remember

1470
01:19:31,960 --> 01:19:36,080
Speaker 5: I was on Crashing and I was on Crashing from

1471
01:19:36,280 --> 01:19:40,320
Speaker 5: March until the end of August and more than half

1472
01:19:40,360 --> 01:19:41,320
Speaker 5: of that was filming and.

1473
01:19:41,360 --> 01:19:44,360
Speaker 4: I was punching up and I was there and you know,

1474
01:19:44,479 --> 01:19:46,439
Speaker 4: and and and now it's you know, it's this number

1475
01:19:46,479 --> 01:19:47,080
Speaker 4: crunching stuff.

1476
01:19:47,120 --> 01:19:49,360
Speaker 5: And there was like three or four of us writers, right,

1477
01:19:49,560 --> 01:19:51,960
Speaker 5: and we were there every single day, you know, twelve

1478
01:19:52,000 --> 01:19:55,080
Speaker 5: hours a day with everybody else. And now they're like, well,

1479
01:19:55,120 --> 01:19:57,439
Speaker 5: what if one person you know, it's like, you know,

1480
01:19:57,479 --> 01:19:58,960
Speaker 5: you could write an episode.

1481
01:19:59,000 --> 01:20:00,920
Speaker 4: It could be your first episode the television. You're not

1482
01:20:01,000 --> 01:20:02,200
Speaker 4: even set yep.

1483
01:20:02,320 --> 01:20:04,320
Speaker 2: And like a lot of times you learn from that

1484
01:20:04,439 --> 01:20:08,680
Speaker 2: like free yeah, like like wow, Like for me with

1485
01:20:08,840 --> 01:20:11,960
Speaker 2: Game Theory, being able to be on set was how

1486
01:20:12,000 --> 01:20:12,920
Speaker 2: I learned so much.

1487
01:20:13,680 --> 01:20:14,960
Speaker 3: Like I just learned what people do.

1488
01:20:15,200 --> 01:20:17,280
Speaker 2: I talk to people and like, oh, what's a line

1489
01:20:17,320 --> 01:20:20,360
Speaker 2: producer doing? Like some people let you like stop buying,

1490
01:20:20,600 --> 01:20:23,680
Speaker 2: you know if they're not like actively working obviously, but

1491
01:20:23,840 --> 01:20:26,479
Speaker 2: like you stop by somebody's office and be like, you know,

1492
01:20:26,760 --> 01:20:28,360
Speaker 2: can you break down what you do real quick?

1493
01:20:28,439 --> 01:20:30,240
Speaker 3: And they'd be happy to tea. And now I know

1494
01:20:30,360 --> 01:20:33,320
Speaker 3: what a line producer is and how that thing should work.

1495
01:20:33,520 --> 01:20:35,760
Speaker 2: And I wouldn't have got if I was like I

1496
01:20:35,880 --> 01:20:38,880
Speaker 2: wrote this and now I'm at home and they're filming it,

1497
01:20:39,240 --> 01:20:41,760
Speaker 2: I would have never learned any of that shit. So

1498
01:20:42,080 --> 01:20:44,320
Speaker 2: those are huge opportunities, Like what if I want to

1499
01:20:44,560 --> 01:20:46,080
Speaker 2: move up, What if I want to be a head writer,

1500
01:20:46,560 --> 01:20:48,559
Speaker 2: what if I want to be a producer. One day,

1501
01:20:49,280 --> 01:20:52,800
Speaker 2: I'm learning skills because I'm around. But if you're cutting

1502
01:20:52,880 --> 01:20:55,000
Speaker 2: costs and you're like, we either want you to be

1503
01:20:55,080 --> 01:20:59,320
Speaker 2: around for free or not at all, you're stalling people's

1504
01:20:59,360 --> 01:20:59,920
Speaker 2: careers out.

1505
01:21:00,120 --> 01:21:00,320
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1506
01:21:00,360 --> 01:21:03,280
Speaker 6: And somebody also talked about they were saying that what

1507
01:21:03,400 --> 01:21:05,840
Speaker 6: they do in their segment in the process, you're right,

1508
01:21:06,040 --> 01:21:07,800
Speaker 6: so that's all you do, is right, But it was

1509
01:21:07,840 --> 01:21:09,479
Speaker 6: like y'all going to go to some of these writers

1510
01:21:09,520 --> 01:21:11,679
Speaker 6: and ask them to do other ship that you took

1511
01:21:11,720 --> 01:21:14,439
Speaker 6: away that training ground for them, and then going to

1512
01:21:14,520 --> 01:21:16,519
Speaker 6: criticize them when they don't know the language.

1513
01:21:16,520 --> 01:21:19,360
Speaker 1: So there's things they would have learned by working with

1514
01:21:19,560 --> 01:21:21,280
Speaker 1: these other sections of people.

1515
01:21:21,520 --> 01:21:27,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, oh man, Yeah, and I think you.

1516
01:21:27,760 --> 01:21:30,000
Speaker 5: Know an important thing too, is you know you you

1517
01:21:30,120 --> 01:21:34,040
Speaker 5: brought up the disposability of the content.

1518
01:21:34,240 --> 01:21:37,559
Speaker 4: Yes, you know, and so it's that thing.

1519
01:21:37,560 --> 01:21:41,640
Speaker 5: Right, Like, okay, so if I if I if what

1520
01:21:41,800 --> 01:21:46,559
Speaker 5: I make, you know, you know, thousands of people can

1521
01:21:46,680 --> 01:21:50,120
Speaker 5: work on a show. Uh, and then you know, something

1522
01:21:50,200 --> 01:21:52,920
Speaker 5: like like willow right where they go overseas and they.

1523
01:21:53,160 --> 01:21:55,880
Speaker 4: And it doesn't even exist anymore. It's not even on

1524
01:21:55,960 --> 01:21:57,280
Speaker 4: Disney plus you.

1525
01:21:57,320 --> 01:22:00,720
Speaker 8: Can't find it nowhere, right, And when I see it,

1526
01:22:00,840 --> 01:22:05,960
Speaker 8: When I see that, the message to me is don't

1527
01:22:06,080 --> 01:22:11,000
Speaker 8: put your your life and your work right that it's disposable,

1528
01:22:11,200 --> 01:22:12,799
Speaker 8: you know, like put.

1529
01:22:12,680 --> 01:22:15,639
Speaker 4: Your life in people, put your life in your family.

1530
01:22:16,880 --> 01:22:20,160
Speaker 4: You know, your work can put you enjoyment, but don't

1531
01:22:20,200 --> 01:22:21,320
Speaker 4: let it be the only thing.

1532
01:22:21,920 --> 01:22:24,599
Speaker 5: So then it's like, okay, well I'll put my life

1533
01:22:24,640 --> 01:22:26,960
Speaker 5: in my family. And it's like, well, you're not even

1534
01:22:27,000 --> 01:22:27,640
Speaker 5: giving me enough to.

1535
01:22:27,640 --> 01:22:31,719
Speaker 4: Take care of that. And then it becomes a bigger,

1536
01:22:32,120 --> 01:22:35,360
Speaker 4: you know thing, because I mean when you you said

1537
01:22:35,439 --> 01:22:38,439
Speaker 4: to me, you know, oh you see more joyous and stuff.

1538
01:22:38,680 --> 01:22:42,559
Speaker 5: I think a lot of that too, who was being

1539
01:22:42,720 --> 01:22:47,439
Speaker 5: less obsessive with work and focusing or on.

1540
01:22:47,600 --> 01:22:50,439
Speaker 4: Family, which either like the pandemic helped with that of just.

1541
01:22:51,200 --> 01:22:54,840
Speaker 5: Realizing you know, the grind of I mean of any

1542
01:22:54,960 --> 01:22:57,800
Speaker 5: job of show business, of I need to get up

1543
01:22:57,840 --> 01:22:59,720
Speaker 5: this many times, I need to do this and that,

1544
01:23:00,040 --> 01:23:03,680
Speaker 5: and like none of it matters, and you're you're ultimately forgotten.

1545
01:23:04,280 --> 01:23:07,439
Speaker 5: With a generation or two, we we will we will

1546
01:23:07,479 --> 01:23:08,880
Speaker 5: all be the old guy in Coco.

1547
01:23:09,400 --> 01:23:12,920
Speaker 2: Yeah. Oh man, I'm gonna cry just think about it.

1548
01:23:14,680 --> 01:23:17,320
Speaker 5: It's like but with with within an amount of time,

1549
01:23:17,479 --> 01:23:19,760
Speaker 5: new things will take over the old things and be

1550
01:23:19,840 --> 01:23:22,920
Speaker 5: a show or two that. So like, don't put all

1551
01:23:23,120 --> 01:23:27,000
Speaker 5: of your your energy into that, right, you know, it

1552
01:23:27,720 --> 01:23:32,559
Speaker 5: is a lesson I've learned because it's you know, it's like, yeah,

1553
01:23:32,600 --> 01:23:34,640
Speaker 5: the the tech companies.

1554
01:23:35,640 --> 01:23:38,320
Speaker 4: They're galactis. Yes, they're just gonna eat.

1555
01:23:38,720 --> 01:23:41,920
Speaker 2: Yes, and we want the next. Yeah, they're gonna eat

1556
01:23:41,920 --> 01:23:45,640
Speaker 2: each other like this, like Microsoft is buy an activision,

1557
01:23:45,680 --> 01:23:48,680
Speaker 2: you know, like they're just fucking the two two galactuses

1558
01:23:48,720 --> 01:23:52,320
Speaker 2: are combining on those and I think, uh, we can

1559
01:23:52,400 --> 01:23:54,040
Speaker 2: and we can probably wrap it up on this. But

1560
01:23:54,680 --> 01:23:58,360
Speaker 2: I think the thing I've learned I've learned, uh is

1561
01:23:58,439 --> 01:24:02,719
Speaker 2: ever since I was fifteen, is like work is working

1562
01:24:02,760 --> 01:24:08,080
Speaker 2: at McDonald's. And it's like I'm watching every industry become McDonald's. Like,

1563
01:24:08,280 --> 01:24:10,880
Speaker 2: I know, Mike, you famously worked at McDonald's for a

1564
01:24:10,960 --> 01:24:13,840
Speaker 2: long time. I worked at McDonald's as a kid, And

1565
01:24:14,680 --> 01:24:18,559
Speaker 2: I feel like everyone's kind of like trying to climb

1566
01:24:18,680 --> 01:24:21,560
Speaker 2: up a ladder as the water's rising underneath us and

1567
01:24:21,680 --> 01:24:23,760
Speaker 2: the water is like just trying to get us all

1568
01:24:23,800 --> 01:24:26,040
Speaker 2: back to McDonald's. Doesn't matter if you got a writing job,

1569
01:24:26,120 --> 01:24:28,760
Speaker 2: if you got a fucking college degree. If it's like

1570
01:24:28,920 --> 01:24:30,519
Speaker 2: all of this shit is like, oh you got a

1571
01:24:30,560 --> 01:24:32,760
Speaker 2: college degree, good for you. That's one hundred and fifty

1572
01:24:32,800 --> 01:24:35,880
Speaker 2: thousand dollars a debt. Okay, welcome to McDonald's.

1573
01:24:35,920 --> 01:24:36,080
Speaker 4: Bitch.

1574
01:24:36,120 --> 01:24:38,559
Speaker 3: You're gonna be You're gonna be keeping.

1575
01:24:38,400 --> 01:24:40,599
Speaker 2: One foot out of the out of the fire machine

1576
01:24:40,720 --> 01:24:41,639
Speaker 2: for the rest of your life.

1577
01:24:41,800 --> 01:24:42,000
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1578
01:24:42,080 --> 01:24:45,920
Speaker 6: And also I think too, you have people who quote

1579
01:24:46,000 --> 01:24:49,120
Speaker 6: unquote got these corporate jobs and for some of them,

1580
01:24:49,200 --> 01:24:51,519
Speaker 6: they have quote unquote always look down on people in

1581
01:24:51,600 --> 01:24:54,280
Speaker 6: the food service industry, and now a lot of them

1582
01:24:54,600 --> 01:24:56,240
Speaker 6: because of COVID and all this stuff, have some of

1583
01:24:56,280 --> 01:24:59,559
Speaker 6: the same complaints the days it's all the same, Did

1584
01:24:59,560 --> 01:25:02,400
Speaker 6: they act like that the people that McDonald's dep quote

1585
01:25:02,439 --> 01:25:03,680
Speaker 6: unquote don't deserve now, is you?

1586
01:25:04,000 --> 01:25:06,200
Speaker 2: But you deserve dance all the same shit. Only people

1587
01:25:06,240 --> 01:25:08,600
Speaker 2: that keep getting rich are like the execs at the

1588
01:25:08,640 --> 01:25:12,440
Speaker 2: top that make one hundred and sometimes the average employee's

1589
01:25:12,439 --> 01:25:14,519
Speaker 2: salary when they used to make like forty times or

1590
01:25:14,640 --> 01:25:17,120
Speaker 2: ten times or whatever. Those are the only people that

1591
01:25:17,520 --> 01:25:20,280
Speaker 2: continue to get further up the ladder away from the water.

1592
01:25:20,560 --> 01:25:22,479
Speaker 2: But the rest of us so all feels like a

1593
01:25:22,600 --> 01:25:25,960
Speaker 2: shell game where it was just like you're thinking you

1594
01:25:26,120 --> 01:25:28,080
Speaker 2: made it. It's like I got a fucking TV guy.

1595
01:25:28,280 --> 01:25:30,560
Speaker 2: I'm good, and they're like we just we will not

1596
01:25:30,680 --> 01:25:32,720
Speaker 2: be paying you for streaming and we're taking your ship

1597
01:25:32,800 --> 01:25:36,080
Speaker 2: off of the app. You're like, fuck, I'm back to McDonald's.

1598
01:25:40,040 --> 01:25:43,479
Speaker 5: Well, and you know it's funny too, when when when

1599
01:25:43,520 --> 01:25:46,679
Speaker 5: I worked at McDonald's, the meanest people in the drive

1600
01:25:46,760 --> 01:25:47,200
Speaker 5: through were.

1601
01:25:47,120 --> 01:25:50,400
Speaker 4: The people that made a dollar more. Yeah, yeah, it

1602
01:25:50,600 --> 01:25:52,639
Speaker 4: was it was waiters.

1603
01:25:53,240 --> 01:25:55,479
Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, someone in an Applebee's shirt would be

1604
01:25:55,880 --> 01:25:59,799
Speaker 5: mean you, yes, because you know, you know what, whenever

1605
01:25:59,800 --> 01:26:02,639
Speaker 5: it's someone was in a hummer, whenever a rich person

1606
01:26:02,760 --> 01:26:05,479
Speaker 5: showed up in the drive through, they don't even act

1607
01:26:05,560 --> 01:26:08,280
Speaker 5: like you exist, right, You're a machine someone makes a

1608
01:26:08,320 --> 01:26:10,880
Speaker 5: little bit more, right, like this is this is the

1609
01:26:10,960 --> 01:26:15,920
Speaker 5: thing that always happens, right, Well, I'm getting paid only

1610
01:26:16,080 --> 01:26:19,080
Speaker 5: five dollars more than someone in the drive through. Or

1611
01:26:19,200 --> 01:26:22,240
Speaker 5: if you know, like you know, we we we all

1612
01:26:22,320 --> 01:26:24,640
Speaker 5: talk ourselves out of healthcare because we're afraid.

1613
01:26:24,760 --> 01:26:27,920
Speaker 2: Yes, they're gonna get it, yes, yes.

1614
01:26:28,120 --> 01:26:28,879
Speaker 4: So then nobody.

1615
01:26:30,640 --> 01:26:33,559
Speaker 5: It's always the thing, right that like we could all

1616
01:26:33,840 --> 01:26:39,800
Speaker 5: uprise together against the one percent. But the what they've done,

1617
01:26:39,960 --> 01:26:41,519
Speaker 5: I got I feel like such a hippie. But it's

1618
01:26:41,560 --> 01:26:45,360
Speaker 5: like they've convinced the ninety nine percent to fight each other.

1619
01:26:45,760 --> 01:26:49,680
Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, I'll see people fighting with the Writers or

1620
01:26:49,840 --> 01:26:53,479
Speaker 2: making these points like, uh, you know they got a union,

1621
01:26:53,560 --> 01:26:56,720
Speaker 2: They're lucky to even have a union. I'm like, everybody

1622
01:26:56,760 --> 01:26:57,920
Speaker 2: should have a fucking union.

1623
01:26:57,960 --> 01:27:00,519
Speaker 1: Yes they should, Like why do you think, Like it's not.

1624
01:27:00,640 --> 01:27:03,559
Speaker 2: Like it's not like writers started a union and then

1625
01:27:03,680 --> 01:27:07,479
Speaker 2: started advocating against everyone else's union, Like we're not like

1626
01:27:07,560 --> 01:27:10,800
Speaker 2: the police union, you know what, We're a good union.

1627
01:27:10,880 --> 01:27:13,479
Speaker 6: Yeah, this union was created to protect like this group.

1628
01:27:13,920 --> 01:27:17,840
Speaker 6: And the thing is for people that are anti union,

1629
01:27:17,960 --> 01:27:20,240
Speaker 6: I always go where there's something wrong with you because

1630
01:27:20,600 --> 01:27:23,200
Speaker 6: a lot of times if you begin in negotiation for

1631
01:27:23,240 --> 01:27:25,200
Speaker 6: a lot of unions, everybody get paid raises. Like it's

1632
01:27:25,240 --> 01:27:27,639
Speaker 6: certain things that kind of automatically kick in for yous

1633
01:27:27,960 --> 01:27:29,959
Speaker 6: that you don't get. And if I have a complaint,

1634
01:27:30,800 --> 01:27:33,800
Speaker 6: this collective can agree on my behalf and I'm not like, Okay,

1635
01:27:33,920 --> 01:27:35,960
Speaker 6: I don't have one hundred million dollars to quote unquote

1636
01:27:35,960 --> 01:27:37,240
Speaker 6: fight this company to just fuck me.

1637
01:27:37,840 --> 01:27:40,720
Speaker 2: Right, Let's let's end on a high note, Mike, what

1638
01:27:40,840 --> 01:27:42,040
Speaker 2: are you enjoying right now?

1639
01:27:42,520 --> 01:27:49,120
Speaker 4: Like, if anything, I was gonna get even more serious.

1640
01:27:49,280 --> 01:27:51,639
Speaker 2: Oh, you know, let's get serious and then well we'll

1641
01:27:51,680 --> 01:27:52,479
Speaker 2: finish with that question.

1642
01:27:52,600 --> 01:27:53,400
Speaker 3: You can go ahead.

1643
01:27:57,439 --> 01:28:00,840
Speaker 4: Both. But like you know, I got you know, health

1644
01:28:00,920 --> 01:28:01,760
Speaker 4: insurance from it.

1645
01:28:02,040 --> 01:28:06,640
Speaker 5: There's so many comedians that die in their twenties and

1646
01:28:06,800 --> 01:28:09,759
Speaker 5: thirties on the road or at home.

1647
01:28:09,960 --> 01:28:12,880
Speaker 4: That's a real thing. You know. I didn't get health

1648
01:28:12,920 --> 01:28:14,760
Speaker 4: insurance until I was thirty three years old.

1649
01:28:15,040 --> 01:28:15,400
Speaker 2: Wow.

1650
01:28:16,160 --> 01:28:18,160
Speaker 4: You know, it was like a black light on a

1651
01:28:18,240 --> 01:28:21,720
Speaker 4: dirty hotel. All the problems that I had.

1652
01:28:22,040 --> 01:28:26,200
Speaker 5: I had crones, you know, I had a I had depression.

1653
01:28:26,280 --> 01:28:27,840
Speaker 5: I had all these but I was never going to

1654
01:28:27,920 --> 01:28:30,800
Speaker 5: treat any of them because I couldn't afford to you know,

1655
01:28:31,040 --> 01:28:34,880
Speaker 5: and that is even a luxury, like my I you know,

1656
01:28:35,000 --> 01:28:37,120
Speaker 5: by the time I went to the dentist, the guy

1657
01:28:37,400 --> 01:28:39,320
Speaker 5: either is like, what the fuck did you do your duds?

1658
01:28:39,360 --> 01:28:41,599
Speaker 5: Like I couldn't afford to come here for ten years.

1659
01:28:41,640 --> 01:28:47,600
Speaker 5: He's like okay, and and and my union are the

1660
01:28:47,680 --> 01:28:51,320
Speaker 5: ones that gave me that privilege that it's disgusting that

1661
01:28:51,400 --> 01:28:54,559
Speaker 5: it's a privilege to be able to do those things.

1662
01:28:55,240 --> 01:29:00,519
Speaker 4: And you know because I yeah, I saw people that

1663
01:29:00,640 --> 01:29:04,479
Speaker 4: I know passing away, and you know, you can be

1664
01:29:04,640 --> 01:29:08,840
Speaker 4: a touring comedian and yeah, there is no union, there

1665
01:29:08,920 --> 01:29:09,960
Speaker 4: is no protections.

1666
01:29:10,280 --> 01:29:13,040
Speaker 5: You know, you could you could hopefully be successful enough

1667
01:29:13,240 --> 01:29:17,040
Speaker 5: to buy your own health care, but no one's given

1668
01:29:17,080 --> 01:29:17,320
Speaker 5: it to you.

1669
01:29:18,120 --> 01:29:20,880
Speaker 1: It's a collective right.

1670
01:29:20,920 --> 01:29:25,200
Speaker 6: And the thing is, I've always looked at comedy and

1671
01:29:25,640 --> 01:29:27,120
Speaker 6: I was like, I wanted to have a union, and

1672
01:29:27,200 --> 01:29:29,040
Speaker 6: I thought about it. I was like, there is always

1673
01:29:29,240 --> 01:29:33,479
Speaker 6: somebody willing to do it for nothing, and because you

1674
01:29:33,640 --> 01:29:36,120
Speaker 6: always have somebody going, I don't know, what's my opportunity

1675
01:29:36,200 --> 01:29:39,400
Speaker 6: like they'll will forever cross that line versus everybody.

1676
01:29:39,439 --> 01:29:39,960
Speaker 1: Well, no, no, no no.

1677
01:29:40,280 --> 01:29:44,240
Speaker 2: If reunionized, you would make a minimum, like you wouldn't

1678
01:29:44,280 --> 01:29:46,320
Speaker 2: have to go in there and they all they give

1679
01:29:46,360 --> 01:29:51,800
Speaker 2: you some popcorn and a die coke and be like right,

1680
01:29:51,880 --> 01:29:52,680
Speaker 2: but like make us laugh.

1681
01:29:52,760 --> 01:29:53,720
Speaker 1: They would actually pay you.

1682
01:29:54,360 --> 01:29:54,519
Speaker 2: Right.

1683
01:29:55,439 --> 01:29:56,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's hard.

1684
01:29:56,320 --> 01:29:59,120
Speaker 2: It's hard to convince everybody to do it, but I mean,

1685
01:29:59,280 --> 01:30:01,200
Speaker 2: I think that's why he read it.

1686
01:30:02,240 --> 01:30:06,439
Speaker 5: One of my favorite books is the Doctor Snooze Suits

1687
01:30:06,479 --> 01:30:07,360
Speaker 5: book The Sneeches.

1688
01:30:09,120 --> 01:30:10,200
Speaker 4: You know you know that story.

1689
01:30:10,520 --> 01:30:14,839
Speaker 3: I think it's been a while, you know, like half.

1690
01:30:14,720 --> 01:30:17,639
Speaker 5: The sneeches have stars on their bellies and the other yes,

1691
01:30:18,920 --> 01:30:23,880
Speaker 5: And this guy comes in with a machine that he

1692
01:30:24,040 --> 01:30:27,599
Speaker 5: can add stars to the ones who don't have stars

1693
01:30:27,800 --> 01:30:30,320
Speaker 5: on their bellies, so then they get them, but the

1694
01:30:30,400 --> 01:30:32,880
Speaker 5: ones who already had them initially are like, well, we

1695
01:30:32,960 --> 01:30:35,080
Speaker 5: don't want them now, so they get theirs taken it off,

1696
01:30:35,680 --> 01:30:39,240
Speaker 5: and this goes back and forth until everyone runs out

1697
01:30:39,280 --> 01:30:39,679
Speaker 5: of money.

1698
01:30:40,240 --> 01:30:42,400
Speaker 4: Yes, and the guy drives away.

1699
01:30:42,960 --> 01:30:45,560
Speaker 5: Yep, And it's like that's that's what happens, is the

1700
01:30:45,720 --> 01:30:50,000
Speaker 5: infighting and stuff like we're always going after the wrong

1701
01:30:50,360 --> 01:30:51,760
Speaker 5: fucking targets.

1702
01:30:51,400 --> 01:30:56,640
Speaker 2: Like mean, wow, the fucking studio. Meanwhile, the studio is

1703
01:30:56,680 --> 01:31:00,160
Speaker 2: the Lorex because I saw a fucking picture online where

1704
01:31:00,160 --> 01:31:03,120
Speaker 2: they cut down the damn shade of the trees, because

1705
01:31:03,160 --> 01:31:05,040
Speaker 2: that's where people were like picking in and they would

1706
01:31:05,080 --> 01:31:08,160
Speaker 2: get go into the shade and refreshed, and these motherfuckers

1707
01:31:08,200 --> 01:31:12,840
Speaker 2: cut down the goddamn trees. Kind of evil doctors.

1708
01:31:12,640 --> 01:31:14,800
Speaker 3: Like, how do you do that and don't know?

1709
01:31:14,960 --> 01:31:16,960
Speaker 2: You're the bad guy in the doctor says book, How

1710
01:31:17,000 --> 01:31:17,960
Speaker 2: do you not know that?

1711
01:31:18,880 --> 01:31:20,960
Speaker 1: I did not know they was doing that bullshit?

1712
01:31:21,439 --> 01:31:24,280
Speaker 2: Man, it's it's fucking insane. It's fucking insane. Man, I

1713
01:31:24,320 --> 01:31:25,120
Speaker 2: don't know how long.

1714
01:31:27,360 --> 01:31:27,519
Speaker 4: You know.

1715
01:31:29,120 --> 01:31:32,920
Speaker 2: Yes, yo, I read that interview and I was like,

1716
01:31:33,680 --> 01:31:37,040
Speaker 2: you know what, these people need a writer, like you

1717
01:31:37,240 --> 01:31:40,320
Speaker 2: need someone to help freshing this up, to punch this up,

1718
01:31:40,400 --> 01:31:43,320
Speaker 2: because right now you just sound like some really hacky

1719
01:31:43,439 --> 01:31:48,559
Speaker 2: bad guys, you know, thun shit. Like if you put

1720
01:31:48,640 --> 01:31:51,559
Speaker 2: this interview out and if the purpose of this interview

1721
01:31:51,760 --> 01:31:54,840
Speaker 2: was for the general public to read this and be like, man,

1722
01:31:55,640 --> 01:31:58,479
Speaker 2: that bob biker, He's all right, you fucked up, because

1723
01:31:58,520 --> 01:32:02,400
Speaker 2: that is not what anyone sind No, oh my god,

1724
01:32:02,920 --> 01:32:03,519
Speaker 2: fucking guys.

1725
01:32:05,120 --> 01:32:07,479
Speaker 4: But I'm sure I'm sure it killed on Epstein Island.

1726
01:32:07,760 --> 01:32:15,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, that is real audience, Okay, hot five.

1727
01:32:15,000 --> 01:32:15,400
Speaker 4: I'm sure.

1728
01:32:18,280 --> 01:32:23,360
Speaker 5: I'm sure the eighteen year old hopefully Hey, the licka

1729
01:32:23,400 --> 01:32:24,559
Speaker 5: his feet said great job.

1730
01:32:26,720 --> 01:32:29,599
Speaker 2: I'm sure Zaslav texted him like you killed it today.

1731
01:32:32,520 --> 01:32:33,240
Speaker 4: This is a show.

1732
01:32:35,160 --> 01:32:38,040
Speaker 5: It's popular and I think it's a well made show,

1733
01:32:38,120 --> 01:32:39,880
Speaker 5: but I don't like the message of it. And this

1734
01:32:40,280 --> 01:32:42,720
Speaker 5: might be a hot take, but give it to it.

1735
01:32:43,000 --> 01:32:46,200
Speaker 5: In the middle of all the strike stuff and labor rights.

1736
01:32:46,000 --> 01:32:50,280
Speaker 2: The bear Oh yeah, I've seen the first season that

1737
01:32:50,640 --> 01:32:53,760
Speaker 2: you have you watched the I haven't, Roger Can I

1738
01:32:53,800 --> 01:32:54,719
Speaker 2: watched the first season.

1739
01:32:54,880 --> 01:32:56,080
Speaker 1: I haven't seen it at all.

1740
01:32:59,640 --> 01:33:02,160
Speaker 4: Because the whole, the whole thing about the Bear is

1741
01:33:02,479 --> 01:33:04,479
Speaker 4: your work will give you joy, Your work will give

1742
01:33:04,479 --> 01:33:07,360
Speaker 4: you purpose, Your work will give you an identity.

1743
01:33:07,920 --> 01:33:11,760
Speaker 5: Like especially in the second season, every person that works

1744
01:33:11,800 --> 01:33:17,080
Speaker 5: at the restaurant finds a love of life and themselves

1745
01:33:17,320 --> 01:33:20,000
Speaker 5: through their work. And I'm like that is the most

1746
01:33:20,280 --> 01:33:24,599
Speaker 5: because Zaslov said that Zaslom is like the writers will

1747
01:33:24,640 --> 01:33:26,720
Speaker 5: want to write again. They will walk back to us

1748
01:33:26,880 --> 01:33:30,719
Speaker 5: like I I watched I watched Titanic for the first time. Yeah,

1749
01:33:31,120 --> 01:33:34,439
Speaker 5: on Sunday. I've never seen it. And you know right

1750
01:33:34,560 --> 01:33:37,800
Speaker 5: that that fucking I've always hated that story. The band

1751
01:33:37,880 --> 01:33:44,519
Speaker 5: that plays as the ship is saying heroism, Yes, if

1752
01:33:44,520 --> 01:33:47,280
Speaker 5: there's heroism and cruise ship musicians.

1753
01:33:47,240 --> 01:33:51,519
Speaker 4: You know right, Like it's like but that idea, like

1754
01:33:51,800 --> 01:33:55,240
Speaker 4: you know, your your work is so important that it

1755
01:33:55,360 --> 01:33:56,000
Speaker 4: defines you.

1756
01:33:56,200 --> 01:34:00,639
Speaker 5: And how wonderful that they played until and the whole

1757
01:34:00,680 --> 01:34:02,760
Speaker 5: thing was like you know they did that because they

1758
01:34:02,880 --> 01:34:04,960
Speaker 5: wanted to calm everyone else on the ship, as if

1759
01:34:05,439 --> 01:34:08,000
Speaker 5: fucking violins are going to make you feel calmer.

1760
01:34:08,200 --> 01:34:13,200
Speaker 2: Right, the ship is sideways, I got what up to

1761
01:34:13,320 --> 01:34:13,760
Speaker 2: my neck?

1762
01:34:13,880 --> 01:34:17,200
Speaker 5: And if you just want to say, yes, I am

1763
01:34:17,360 --> 01:34:19,479
Speaker 5: selfish and I just wanted to play my music.

1764
01:34:19,600 --> 01:34:23,439
Speaker 4: Okay, but that's alcolic.

1765
01:34:23,520 --> 01:34:26,519
Speaker 2: Doesn't make sense because they didn't even have like TikTok.

1766
01:34:26,600 --> 01:34:29,080
Speaker 2: Then they couldn't even go on like ig live. So

1767
01:34:29,200 --> 01:34:31,200
Speaker 2: they did that just for the people in the room

1768
01:34:31,240 --> 01:34:33,840
Speaker 2: who are also about to die, Like what the fuck

1769
01:34:34,000 --> 01:34:34,560
Speaker 2: was the point of that?

1770
01:34:37,360 --> 01:34:40,280
Speaker 4: No, it was just it was just for themselves.

1771
01:34:40,800 --> 01:34:43,240
Speaker 2: They should just have like, okay, like if you're work

1772
01:34:43,280 --> 01:34:43,719
Speaker 2: and it's.

1773
01:34:43,640 --> 01:34:47,000
Speaker 5: Just for yourself, but like to give yourself this illusion

1774
01:34:47,120 --> 01:34:49,759
Speaker 5: that it's that like because I care.

1775
01:34:49,720 --> 01:34:54,000
Speaker 4: More than you. I you know about my job. I'm

1776
01:34:54,040 --> 01:34:57,080
Speaker 4: a better employee than you because I'm.

1777
01:34:56,960 --> 01:35:01,360
Speaker 5: Willing to be there three hours later. Right, you know

1778
01:35:01,600 --> 01:35:03,599
Speaker 5: that you get paid, but you want to leave early

1779
01:35:03,840 --> 01:35:07,519
Speaker 5: so you don't care. It's all that, it's all messaging.

1780
01:35:07,960 --> 01:35:10,840
Speaker 2: Yes, they should have one dude in the band that

1781
01:35:10,920 --> 01:35:12,680
Speaker 2: did get up and run away like that would have

1782
01:35:12,680 --> 01:35:15,160
Speaker 2: been nice. If there's one dude that that looked at

1783
01:35:15,160 --> 01:35:17,360
Speaker 2: the other guys like I'm fucking crazy. He just starts

1784
01:35:17,560 --> 01:35:21,519
Speaker 2: like swimming. I've never seen this.

1785
01:35:21,640 --> 01:35:22,040
Speaker 1: I don't know.

1786
01:35:22,240 --> 01:35:25,800
Speaker 2: I don't know why they would do that. And that guy, yes,

1787
01:35:26,479 --> 01:35:28,160
Speaker 2: and he's the one that tells the story, but it's

1788
01:35:28,200 --> 01:35:31,600
Speaker 2: not the way. It's not the noble way that that

1789
01:35:31,800 --> 01:35:34,680
Speaker 2: James Cameron tells the story. It's like these motherfuckers had

1790
01:35:34,760 --> 01:35:37,840
Speaker 2: lost they mind. They would just I said stop, put

1791
01:35:37,880 --> 01:35:38,599
Speaker 2: the ball in down.

1792
01:35:38,640 --> 01:35:41,240
Speaker 3: They were like, no, we gotta go on. And man, anyway,

1793
01:35:41,720 --> 01:35:42,559
Speaker 3: I had to leave him.

1794
01:35:42,600 --> 01:35:42,760
Speaker 2: Man.

1795
01:35:42,960 --> 01:35:45,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, So I'm a solo act If y'all booking anybody,

1796
01:35:45,360 --> 01:35:52,280
Speaker 3: let me know. Oh, man, Mike Man.

1797
01:35:52,960 --> 01:35:56,160
Speaker 2: So what I guess now that there's no writing stuff,

1798
01:35:56,400 --> 01:36:00,680
Speaker 2: there's nothing to promote, like what what? What do you

1799
01:36:00,760 --> 01:36:01,400
Speaker 2: do with yourself?

1800
01:36:01,479 --> 01:36:01,599
Speaker 6: Now?

1801
01:36:01,720 --> 01:36:04,920
Speaker 2: Is it just like all baby pictures and and then

1802
01:36:05,040 --> 01:36:07,519
Speaker 2: going out to the strike? Is that what's going on?

1803
01:36:10,720 --> 01:36:14,080
Speaker 4: Yeah? Yeah, I'm forced to be a person.

1804
01:36:18,080 --> 01:36:19,200
Speaker 1: We've been gone too far.

1805
01:36:20,600 --> 01:36:21,160
Speaker 3: They're waiting.

1806
01:36:22,960 --> 01:36:24,360
Speaker 2: We're becoming you in again.

1807
01:36:25,000 --> 01:36:30,040
Speaker 5: Yeah, I've been I've been watching a lot of movies,

1808
01:36:30,160 --> 01:36:31,840
Speaker 5: is what I've been doing. I've been watching a bunch

1809
01:36:31,840 --> 01:36:33,719
Speaker 5: of It's like I've been watching a lot of movies,

1810
01:36:34,960 --> 01:36:37,800
Speaker 5: movies that my dad loved, because that's like I'm a

1811
01:36:37,840 --> 01:36:38,680
Speaker 5: way to connect with them.

1812
01:36:39,000 --> 01:36:39,479
Speaker 4: He's gone.

1813
01:36:39,960 --> 01:36:41,760
Speaker 5: I've been, and I've just been watching things that I've

1814
01:36:41,800 --> 01:36:44,760
Speaker 5: heard about for years that I've never seen, and you know,

1815
01:36:45,160 --> 01:36:47,960
Speaker 5: and then like falling in love with the idea of

1816
01:36:48,120 --> 01:36:49,040
Speaker 5: making stuff again.

1817
01:36:49,560 --> 01:36:51,439
Speaker 3: Yeah, I've been watching stuff too.

1818
01:36:51,520 --> 01:36:55,360
Speaker 2: Man. I watched uh all have justified this last like

1819
01:36:56,080 --> 01:36:58,640
Speaker 2: this summer, and uh they got a new season that

1820
01:36:59,080 --> 01:37:02,320
Speaker 2: dropped like yesterday. I'm all caught up, and uh man,

1821
01:37:02,640 --> 01:37:05,120
Speaker 2: I wish I had known it was so good the

1822
01:37:05,160 --> 01:37:09,639
Speaker 2: whole time. It's just apparently I'm into like white criminals

1823
01:37:09,680 --> 01:37:13,919
Speaker 2: getting shot by white sheriffs, like in a country towns.

1824
01:37:14,600 --> 01:37:17,040
Speaker 2: Black people ain't even involved. It's just the cop show up,

1825
01:37:17,080 --> 01:37:18,840
Speaker 2: they shoot a white dude, and then you're like, all right,

1826
01:37:18,960 --> 01:37:20,320
Speaker 2: next week we'll shoot another one.

1827
01:37:20,439 --> 01:37:27,360
Speaker 3: Like this is awesome. Man, late to this party, leave it.

1828
01:37:27,640 --> 01:37:28,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly.

1829
01:37:28,720 --> 01:37:31,080
Speaker 2: Like they had some black people in like season like

1830
01:37:31,360 --> 01:37:33,920
Speaker 2: three and beyond. But the whole purpose of the black

1831
01:37:33,960 --> 01:37:36,599
Speaker 2: people is they're just always like, listen, that's some white

1832
01:37:36,640 --> 01:37:39,680
Speaker 2: shit y'all doing. Just stay out of the black part

1833
01:37:39,720 --> 01:37:41,680
Speaker 2: of town and you won't have no problems with us.

1834
01:37:42,520 --> 01:37:44,360
Speaker 2: I was like, I love this show. This is the

1835
01:37:44,439 --> 01:37:45,599
Speaker 2: greatest show of all time.

1836
01:37:45,720 --> 01:37:45,840
Speaker 4: Man.

1837
01:37:47,800 --> 01:37:50,519
Speaker 2: Well, Mike, Man, it's been It's been great talking to you. Man.

1838
01:37:51,280 --> 01:37:54,120
Speaker 2: We're definitely gonna do this before seven years past. Again.

1839
01:37:54,240 --> 01:37:55,679
Speaker 3: I don't even know how it happened.

1840
01:37:56,280 --> 01:37:58,760
Speaker 2: I feel like I just keep up with you vicariously

1841
01:37:58,840 --> 01:38:03,760
Speaker 2: through social media and it just I somehow count that

1842
01:38:03,920 --> 01:38:07,080
Speaker 2: as as interaction when we should be hopping on the

1843
01:38:07,160 --> 01:38:08,400
Speaker 2: podcast every once in a while.

1844
01:38:08,520 --> 01:38:11,160
Speaker 1: Man, we don't want your baby to be old last

1845
01:38:11,240 --> 01:38:12,439
Speaker 1: seven to eight next time.

1846
01:38:12,880 --> 01:38:15,280
Speaker 2: And it just genuinely man like you are. You are

1847
01:38:15,400 --> 01:38:17,280
Speaker 2: just one of, like one of my favorite people.

1848
01:38:17,400 --> 01:38:17,559
Speaker 6: Man.

1849
01:38:19,360 --> 01:38:22,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, I appreciate you coming through, man, and I'm glad

1850
01:38:22,240 --> 01:38:25,720
Speaker 2: everything's you know, other than the strike shit obviously, but

1851
01:38:25,800 --> 01:38:27,680
Speaker 2: I'm glad things are going good for you man and

1852
01:38:28,439 --> 01:38:30,679
Speaker 2: all that progress. And I appreciate you being so open

1853
01:38:30,720 --> 01:38:33,840
Speaker 2: about you know, these topics that I think for people

1854
01:38:33,880 --> 01:38:36,920
Speaker 2: it's difficult to share, but you know, like your open book, man,

1855
01:38:37,000 --> 01:38:37,920
Speaker 2: I really appreciate that.

1856
01:38:41,400 --> 01:38:45,960
Speaker 4: Over my autism, lets me talk about my autism.

1857
01:38:46,280 --> 01:38:52,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, everybody, that's it. We'll be back Saturday

1858
01:38:52,479 --> 01:38:55,640
Speaker 2: for our feedback show. We appreciate y'all. Make sure you

1859
01:38:55,760 --> 01:38:59,160
Speaker 2: guys check out Mike. Mike, are you doing any stand

1860
01:38:59,280 --> 01:39:01,360
Speaker 2: up right now? Do? I did forget to ask that.

1861
01:39:04,080 --> 01:39:07,559
Speaker 5: Yeah, I I will be at Largo in Los Angeles

1862
01:39:07,680 --> 01:39:11,519
Speaker 5: the second Sunday with Patton Oswald and friends.

1863
01:39:14,040 --> 01:39:16,679
Speaker 4: He's my hero, so I'm really excited to do guess

1864
01:39:16,680 --> 01:39:17,360
Speaker 4: what he saw me.

1865
01:39:17,720 --> 01:39:18,719
Speaker 3: He's in Justified.

1866
01:39:19,920 --> 01:39:25,519
Speaker 4: Yeah nice, mm hmmm mm hmmm. That should be a

1867
01:39:25,760 --> 01:39:32,960
Speaker 4: really And another thing is watch Bupkus. You know. That's

1868
01:39:33,080 --> 01:39:36,400
Speaker 4: that's it is. The last thing I'll say is you know,

1869
01:39:36,720 --> 01:39:39,920
Speaker 4: the whole thing of like, did we boycott stuff right

1870
01:39:40,000 --> 01:39:42,840
Speaker 4: now and all that because we are going to have

1871
01:39:42,920 --> 01:39:43,240
Speaker 4: a deal.

1872
01:39:43,880 --> 01:39:46,880
Speaker 5: We want these We want the networks to be around,

1873
01:39:46,960 --> 01:39:50,679
Speaker 5: We want the studios to be around with their full trees.

1874
01:39:51,040 --> 01:39:59,600
Speaker 4: Yes, you know, and so you know, support support the

1875
01:39:59,640 --> 01:40:01,160
Speaker 4: stuff that people have made.

1876
01:40:01,760 --> 01:40:05,720
Speaker 5: You know, if you see a new show like yeah, yeah,

1877
01:40:06,200 --> 01:40:09,000
Speaker 5: watch it so much that don't want to make a

1878
01:40:09,120 --> 01:40:12,600
Speaker 5: deal and and hire us all back exactly breaks that

1879
01:40:12,720 --> 01:40:14,879
Speaker 5: are fair and respectable, and watch.

1880
01:40:14,760 --> 01:40:16,479
Speaker 2: It before they take it off, because you know they'll

1881
01:40:16,560 --> 01:40:18,040
Speaker 2: just take some ship off now, y'all don't know.

1882
01:40:21,880 --> 01:40:24,960
Speaker 6: And for those of you that have not seen like Live,

1883
01:40:25,160 --> 01:40:29,240
Speaker 6: oh my god, it's fucking hilarious, you will have the

1884
01:40:29,479 --> 01:40:31,679
Speaker 6: time of your life. We watched him in the Comedy

1885
01:40:31,760 --> 01:40:35,080
Speaker 6: Zone years ago and it was such a joy to

1886
01:40:35,280 --> 01:40:36,000
Speaker 6: watch him work.

1887
01:40:36,240 --> 01:40:39,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, and check out like Satimantium, which is on all

1888
01:40:39,120 --> 01:40:40,280
Speaker 2: your streaming services.

1889
01:40:41,560 --> 01:40:43,799
Speaker 3: Honestly, just one of the funniest dudes out.

1890
01:40:43,680 --> 01:40:46,240
Speaker 2: There man, especially if you're the intersection of just like

1891
01:40:47,000 --> 01:40:51,160
Speaker 2: nerdery and and wrestling and pop culture. Man like, just

1892
01:40:51,400 --> 01:40:53,920
Speaker 2: there's not there's nobody doing that shit better. And I

1893
01:40:54,040 --> 01:40:55,760
Speaker 2: know that Pat and as Wild show is gonna be

1894
01:40:55,840 --> 01:40:56,120
Speaker 2: off the.

1895
01:40:58,120 --> 01:40:59,840
Speaker 1: Get a chance go out there and see him.

1896
01:41:00,080 --> 01:41:03,960
Speaker 2: Yup. All right, that's it man, Thanks for listening everybody.

1897
01:41:04,040 --> 01:41:04,720
Speaker 2: We appreciate you.

1898
01:41:04,840 --> 01:41:05,599
Speaker 3: We'll be back Saturday.

1899
01:41:06,560 --> 01:41:06,760
Speaker 2: Yep.

1900
01:41:06,880 --> 01:41:08,439
Speaker 3: Until next time, we love you, Love you too.