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Speaker 1: Welcome to this league and cut rule a twenty four

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Speaker 1: hour NBA news miters you lou Chris hands, it's no time,

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Speaker 1: works time, It's so time. This league un cut is

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Speaker 1: underway in on fire. This should be a good one.

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Speaker 2: All right, friends, it's time. As promised, our special guest

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Speaker 2: this week. In one more week, you will have to

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Speaker 2: address him as a Hall of Famer on all first references.

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Speaker 2: But he joins us now from a top secret location

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Speaker 2: cannot be revealed, far far away from his spiritual harm

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Speaker 2: in Dallas. Is this audience ready for a good ten

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Speaker 2: to twelve minutes with almost a Hall of famer? Girk

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Speaker 2: Werner VI, Ski, Wow, you are actually on the show.

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Speaker 2: This is really happening.

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Speaker 3: This is big, this is big. I'm excited for the

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Speaker 3: new show. I can't wait to listen in. But like

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Speaker 3: you said, I'm still overseas and I'm working my way

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Speaker 3: home so I can get ready for Springfield.

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Speaker 2: Excited, I mean it's crazy jersey retirement international jersey retirement

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Speaker 2: statue unveiling. I think there was a street named after

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Speaker 2: you in there somewhere.

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Speaker 4: And now, like you said, all you have to say.

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Speaker 2: In basketball is the word Springfield. Everyone in the game

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Speaker 2: knows what that means. But has it sunk in yet?

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Speaker 2: Are you ready for this?

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Speaker 3: I mean as ready as I can get. I guess

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Speaker 3: I'm super excited, obviously, a little anxious already. I think

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Speaker 3: it's going to be a super cool, fun couple of days.

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Speaker 3: I have family and friends coming from all over the world.

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Speaker 3: So yeah, I'm already a little nervous. Obviously I'm not

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Speaker 3: a great speaker and holding a big speech there and

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Speaker 3: then just the whole hoopla there, and you know, the

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Speaker 3: limelight is not really my thing, so it's, uh, it's

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Speaker 3: gonna be a little bit uncomfortable at times, but I'm

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Speaker 3: gonna I'm going to just try to really enjoy it

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Speaker 3: and enjoy my family. And my kids are now old

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Speaker 3: enough to really understand what's happening, and so.

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Speaker 5: I'm looking forward to to a great time. And and

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Speaker 5: like you said, all this stuff, all the.

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Speaker 3: Honorings and the street naming and all that, people are

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Speaker 3: now like we got to celebrate you again, Like when when.

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Speaker 5: Is this over?

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Speaker 3: Uh, this this retirement tour. And I would say this

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Speaker 3: to me, the Hall of Fame is like the absolute

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Speaker 3: tip of the iceberg, and it's the coolest thing, and

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Speaker 3: it's an honor to be there, and and sort of

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Speaker 3: I think things will sort of for me at least

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Speaker 3: slow down after that. But it's been literally one thing

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Speaker 3: after the next, and I'm extremely proud of all these things.

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Speaker 2: So you're gonna have Steve Nash and Jason Kidd there

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Speaker 2: with you on stage.

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Speaker 4: And the way presenters work.

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Speaker 2: For the Hall of Fame for people who don't know,

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Speaker 2: you have to be a Hall of Famer to be

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Speaker 2: eligible as a presenter. You knew those guys were going

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Speaker 2: to say yes when you ask them, But what was

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Speaker 2: it like to actually, you know, are you nervous asking them? Hey, guys,

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Speaker 2: will you come up there with me? Because it's also

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Speaker 2: weird for the presenters. They don't get to say anything.

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Speaker 2: They just they just sit on a stool.

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Speaker 5: They just sit there.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, you know me, I wasn't.

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Speaker 5: I wasn't doing it all formal. I was Steven, do

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Speaker 5: you mind that? So I just kind of threw it out.

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Speaker 3: And when we talked about Hall of Fame and Sandwich

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Speaker 3: a kid, you know, obviously they're they're not only teammates

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Speaker 3: of mine, they're really really good friends and friends for life,

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Speaker 3: and so you know, It was sort of informal.

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Speaker 5: I kind of threw it out.

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Speaker 3: Hey, I'd love for you guys, or for love, would

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Speaker 3: and they both were kind of no brainer obviously, And

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Speaker 3: uh and so they're they're looking forward to it, and

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Speaker 3: I'm looking forward.

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Speaker 4: To seeing them.

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Speaker 5: I'm seeing their families.

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Speaker 3: And just spending an incredible three four days up up

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Speaker 3: in Springfield.

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Speaker 2: You know, I always say this when people ask me

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Speaker 2: about the early days, and you know, you and Steve

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Speaker 2: both had a rough first year in Dallas, which was

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Speaker 2: certainly not going to forget it when you think back.

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Speaker 2: I mean, how crazy does it sound to you that

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Speaker 2: Famers on that lockout nineteen ninety nine MAVs team when

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Speaker 2: five years ago.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, crazy, crazy how the time has flown by, and

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Speaker 3: also crazy how that worked out. You know, you know me,

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Speaker 3: I'm always a little negative. I'm shy, you know, it's

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Speaker 3: I just I wasn't sure gonna make it. I had

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Speaker 3: there were games where I didn't play at all.

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Speaker 5: I was, I was frustrated. I was you know, I was.

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Speaker 3: Uh, I've just basically questioning myself.

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Speaker 5: Did I make the right decisions here and.

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Speaker 3: Uh to come over? Or should I have stayed in Europe?

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Speaker 3: Should I have gone to college? And I guess all

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Speaker 3: that's normal when things don't really you know, work out

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Speaker 3: all we really did was Steve and I was saying, Hey,

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Speaker 3: all we can do is is is you know, work

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Speaker 3: all you can do is control what you can control.

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Speaker 3: We used to go back to the gym every night,

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Speaker 3: what we both didn't want, and so we just really

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Speaker 5: And trying to get better and trying to make it.

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Speaker 5: We were never really in it.

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Speaker 3: I think we're like four or five games out of

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Speaker 3: I'll start you again. We have whatever ten games left.

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Speaker 3: Why don't you just you know, get adjusted to the

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Speaker 3: that stretch, to me, was one of the biggest turnarounds

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Speaker 3: but for me, that was a big turnaround.

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Speaker 5: I got to be comfortable.

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Speaker 3: I had one game I had like twenty eight and

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Speaker 3: that kind of showed me, hey, if you actually work

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Speaker 3: Nellie will put you in positions with us with this

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Speaker 3: mismatched style, that that even my body I was a

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Speaker 5: And so that that meant, that meant the well to me.

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Speaker 3: That thought those last ten games of my on my

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Speaker 2: One and only Dirk Noovitski joining us here on the

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Speaker 2: Saturday Steinline on ninety seven to one The Freak presented

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Speaker 2: by Panini America, And you guys should know this show

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Speaker 2: has now moved into it second month.

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Speaker 4: Dirk volunteered to be.

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Speaker 2: The first guests in show history, our very first show.

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Speaker 4: But I told no I wanted to wait. I wanted

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Speaker 4: to wait to do this right before his induction into

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Speaker 4: the Hall of Fame. And we are doing this now

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Speaker 4: one week before that induction.

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Speaker 2: With I'm I'm you know, I can't say I'm as

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Speaker 4: I just I can't wait.

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Speaker 2: I can't wait to see all because it's not just

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Speaker 2: just what do you think it's going to be like

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Speaker 2: to be You're with all your rivals, Pow, Tony, Pop,

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Speaker 4: These guys too at the same time.

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Speaker 3: I mean unbelievable at times, you know, there there were

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Speaker 3: but I think that's that's part of part of competing

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Speaker 3: I were always pretty okay. But it's just that just

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Speaker 3: funny how that works out that now all of a sudden,

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Speaker 5: Just funny how that worked.

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Speaker 3: And we competed against Power and Tony since we were

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Speaker 3: to be part of this, this amazing class. And like

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Speaker 3: I said, we're gonna have some fun.

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Speaker 5: We're going there.

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Speaker 3: I think we have some We're going golfing one day

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I got to ask you this one because I've got

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Speaker 2: MAVs fans asking me all the time, like are we

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Speaker 4: Are you and Dwayne Wade now buddies? Are you guys? Friends?

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Speaker 4: Is that how we are supposed to refer to you two?

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Speaker 5: I think friends.

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Speaker 3: I mean, obviously friends reach out to each other all

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Speaker 3: the time, talk all the time. I wouldn't say we're friends.

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Speaker 3: I think there's a mutual sense of obviously respect for

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Speaker 3: each other's career, and obviously we're cordial. We were sitting

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Speaker 3: so there's just no there's no bad blood obviously anymore people.

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Speaker 3: We all moved on. Things were said on both sides

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Speaker 3: are done that neither neither side light But you know.

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Speaker 3: That's like I said earlier, that's part of competition at

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Speaker 3: the highest level, it's there. To me, I'm still old school.

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Speaker 3: There were really no friends at at the highest level.

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Speaker 3: I understand now it is. Everything is a little different

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Speaker 3: in the league, but at the you know where when

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Speaker 3: I came in, there were really no friendships at the

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Speaker 3: highest level. And and so that's that's where that comes from.

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Speaker 5: So are we friends, No, we don't text.

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Speaker 3: Each other, but I think where there's a lot of

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Speaker 3: respect there and we're we're both happy to it to

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Speaker 3: go in the Hall of Fame together.

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna have to do a poll among the audience.

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Speaker 2: Incredibly happy for you that you have that ring, Incredibly

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Speaker 2: happy for you for what awaits this coming week, huge

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Speaker 2: But huge, hugely grateful to catch up with you today

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Speaker 2: They're sufficient for the twenty five years that you've let

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Speaker 3: as well for being part Dirk Navitski.

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Speaker 2: Everyone the future Hall of Famer, and future means only

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Speaker 2: one week. A week from today, you will be eternally

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Speaker 2: referred to as the Hall of Famer Jerk Davitski.

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