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Speaker 1: Countdown with Keith Olderman is a production of iHeartRadio Obsessed

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Speaker 1: by apocryphal stories of cats being eaten. Trump pussies out

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Speaker 1: of a second debate. You heard what I said. Quote.

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Speaker 1: In the world of boxing or UFC, when a fighter

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Speaker 1: gets beaten or knocked out, they get up and scream,

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Speaker 1: I demand to rematch. I demand to rematch. Well, it's

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Speaker 1: no different with a debate. She was beaten badly last night.

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Speaker 1: Every poll has us winning, in one case ninety two

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Speaker 1: to eight, So why would I do a rematch? Unquote. Actually,

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Speaker 1: in the world of boxing or UFC, Trump's campaign would

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Speaker 1: be in intensive care at this hour, and the only

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Speaker 1: demand would beat a pull it off life support and

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Speaker 1: end its suffering. And actually, in the world of debates,

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Speaker 1: it was Trump who had demanded additional debates with Joe

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Speaker 1: Biden and then with the Vice president. So by his

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Speaker 1: own rules, Trump just proclaimed he lost the CNN debate

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Speaker 1: to the President in June. Still, Donald Duck has the

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Speaker 1: moral force of intestinal parasite. Mentally, he cannot process defeat,

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Speaker 1: and in the only UFC he competes in, the acronym

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Speaker 1: stands for utter ef fing cowardice, So he is doing

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Speaker 1: the misquoted advice Senator George Aiken didn't actually give to

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Speaker 1: Lyndon Johnson about Vietnam. Declare victory and get out, and

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Speaker 1: we all know what happened to Lyndon Johnson. There are

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Speaker 1: no polls suggesting Trump won the debate. None. There are

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Speaker 1: some online votes, But as Trump could never quite understand

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Speaker 1: why people laughed when he would bring up Putin's eighty

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Speaker 1: more likely, cannot understand, the not so subtle nuances that

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Speaker 1: separate elections, actual valid extrapolatory opinion polling or ratings, and

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Speaker 1: data produced by letting the same idiot push the same

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Speaker 1: Trump button on the same website read toua dot com

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Speaker 1: one thousand times an hour. He can see only two things,

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Speaker 1: his own name and a number attached to it. If

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Speaker 1: the number thwarts his desires, he declares that number to

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Speaker 1: be invalid. It is a perfectly rounded, symmetrical, closed universe.

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Speaker 1: Most people who try to live this way wind up

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Speaker 1: in prison or in an institution, or prematurely dead. Trump

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Speaker 1: is the one who slipped through. In other contexts, this

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Speaker 1: is terrifying to ponder here it is just pathetic and

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Speaker 1: hilarious all of our lives. You and I have heard

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Speaker 1: he doesn't know the meaning of the word defeat. Well,

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Speaker 1: here we are this idiot. Trump literally does not know

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Speaker 1: the meaning of the word defeat. The rest of the

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Speaker 1: far right it knows the meaning of the word defeat.

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Speaker 1: The Wall Street Journal editorial board declared Trump lost. She

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Speaker 1: clearly won the debate last night. RFK Junior sounded a

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Speaker 1: similar note. Vice President Harris clearly won. Polymarket polling odds

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Speaker 1: went from fifty two to forty six, Trump to forty

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Speaker 1: nine forty nine. Even wagering at poly Market went to

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Speaker 1: seventy three percent favoring Kamala Harris. Matt Walsh wrote, do

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Speaker 1: you need me to lie to you and tell you

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Speaker 1: this was a brilliant performance by Trump? Would that make

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Speaker 1: you feel better? Trump? Sir David Bossi was asked what

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Speaker 1: was Trump's best debate answer, and Bossy would only say,

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Speaker 1: that's a good question. You're putting me on the spot.

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Speaker 1: Trump campaign hoodlum Corey Lewandowski was asked what was Trump's

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Speaker 1: best debate answer, and he could only say he had

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Speaker 1: so many good answers. A Trump surrogate said she managed

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Speaker 1: I wish I hadn't watched it. This surrogate was named

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Speaker 1: Alexey Naumov. He is a member of the Russian International

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Speaker 1: Affairs Council, and he said that on Russian state television. Meanwhile,

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Speaker 1: it took Trump's surrogate and pretend professor Hugh Hewitt more

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Speaker 1: than nineteen hours to come up with this second day

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Speaker 1: excuse quote. Opinions are settling. Trump was not at his best,

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Speaker 1: up with, he was usually okay. As we await the

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Speaker 1: first true post debate polls, it appears only one has

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Speaker 1: been completed since Trump's handlers came out and carried him

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Speaker 1: off with two shovels and a wheelbarrow. The poll in

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Speaker 1: seem like very much, but the pollster is so col

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Speaker 1: Strategies polling for Red Eagle Politics. And this is literally

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Speaker 1: do that. Here. A TV news Live focus group voted

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Speaker 1: twelve to five that Harris won the debate. The focus

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Speaker 1: group was on Fox News. One member said Trump was

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Speaker 1: so bad, He's just like an old suit from like

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Speaker 1: What is shocking today is not that Trump won't debate

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Speaker 1: What is shocking is how unprepared he and the fascists

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Speaker 1: finally found them ABC News and Disney and well known

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Speaker 1: Marxist Taylor Swift. Trump proceeded to go from the debate

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Speaker 1: debacle to a nine eleven debacle in which cameras caught

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Speaker 1: Trump also managed to somehow bring Laura Lumer to the

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Speaker 1: nine eleven memorial on nine to eleven. Laura Lumer, who

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Speaker 1: shared a video insisting quote nine to eleven was an

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Speaker 1: inside job. How could you go through that debate and

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Speaker 1: it not be the worst moment of your week? Trump? Happily,

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Speaker 1: Trump did not let Nancy Mace or Senator Loomis of

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Speaker 1: ninety six victims of nine to eleven. It was twenty

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Speaker 1: nine hundred and seventy seven victims. You only get to

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Speaker 1: the nineteen terrorists. Nancy Mace and other Republicans wrote, we

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Speaker 1: will never forget about them. A pre scheduled Trump fundraising

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Speaker 1: email went out early yesterday and back to the subject

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Speaker 1: of a scapegoat. The subject line read I love ABC

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Speaker 1: will now take away ABC's news license, their license to news.

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Speaker 1: There are no news licenses. Even most Trumpists know there

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Speaker 1: are no news licenses. But Trump now he has to

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Speaker 1: have news licenses. I think ABC took a big hit

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Speaker 2: They have to be licensed to do it.

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Speaker 1: They ought to take away their license for the way

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Speaker 1: a license from my petfish? He is in halibut? You've

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Speaker 1: got a pet halibut? Yes? I chose him out of thousands.

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Speaker 1: I didn't like the others. They were all too flat.

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Speaker 1: You must be a looney. I'm not a looney. Why

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Speaker 1: I have a pet news license. And speaking of pet halibuts,

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Speaker 1: those Freudian slips in which he wound up humiliating Trump.

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Speaker 3: We admired Taylor Swift's music, but I don't think most Americans,

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Speaker 1: You go, girl, tell those Trumpsts to rebel against billionaire

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Speaker 1: I have a glass of water for mister Vance, please,

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Speaker 1: I swear, I swear I am secretly more thankful for

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Speaker 1: A couple of postscripts to the content of the debate

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Speaker 1: get him together. That war would have never happened.

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Speaker 4: And in fact, when I saw Putin after I left.

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Speaker 2: Unfortunately left because our country has gone to hell.

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Speaker 1: Oh, Department of Justice. Department of Justice added to the list.

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Speaker 1: Please met with Russian dictator about Ukraine invasion. Also, this

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Speaker 1: So the right wing's fairly successful attempt to transform a

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Speaker 1: and ron DeSantis thug Christopher Ruffo has now offered quote

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Speaker 1: Americans in Iraq? I had not expected that, I said

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Speaker 1: to be eighty ninety something. I stifled a fake yawn. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you're right, probably closer to ninety now that I think

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Speaker 1: of it. So the problem is she watches O'Reilly. She

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Speaker 1: tells him what's on Fox, what O'Reilly's saying about Ge. Well,

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Speaker 1: I think you have a simple solution. I'd say, the

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Speaker 1: first thing you do is you send over a couple

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Speaker 1: of big guys to her house and you pull the

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Speaker 1: freaking cable out of the wall. Zucker actually gasped. My

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Speaker 1: producer is Ipovich unsuccessfully stifled a laugh, and I saw

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Speaker 1: Rachel crack a smile. Zucker regained himself. This isn't funny, Alderman,

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Speaker 1: I crossed my legs. Oh, it's a little funny. And anyway,

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Speaker 1: it's not essential. If the problem is emailed is threatening

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Speaker 1: to take the network off the air because O'Reilly is

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Speaker 1: avenging himself against me by attacking him and attacking Ge.

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Speaker 1: The short term solution is easy, and in fact it

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Speaker 1: is manageable. The long term solution that's not easy, and

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Speaker 1: that's not manageable. But the short term one that's simple.

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Speaker 1: Rest of this week, next week, maybe the week after that,

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Speaker 1: even we just don't mention Fox News on MSNBC, something

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Speaker 1: resembling a smile crossed Zucker's face. It made him look

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Speaker 1: a little less like a lizard person and more like

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Speaker 1: a monkey with glasses. You do that forever? No, not forever.

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Speaker 1: I would not do that, I said to Bias time. Yes,

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Speaker 1: but remember who was it who was in my office

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Speaker 1: last winter telling me that I should go on the

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Speaker 1: air and just to f with Fox? I should ask

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Speaker 1: why Rupert Murdoch was still running a huge international media

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Speaker 1: company like News Corp. Despite all the reports that he's

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Speaker 1: suffering from dementia, even though there haven't been any reports

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Speaker 1: that he's suffering from dementia. For everybody's sake, here, who

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Speaker 1: was that again who told me to do that? Zucker's

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Speaker 1: goodwill was gone again? Obviously that was me. What's your point?

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Speaker 1: My point is, we built this new brand of ours

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Speaker 1: organically on a couple of themes, a couple of statements

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Speaker 1: of principle, and one of them is to use your

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Speaker 1: words just to f with Fox. If we don't f

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Speaker 1: with Fox for a couple of weeks at the start

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Speaker 1: of the summer, who's gonna care. Who's gonna notice, But

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Speaker 1: like after two weeks, three weeks, our viewers are gonna notice,

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Speaker 1: and the TV writers are gonna notice, and then the

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Speaker 1: crap will hit from every direction. You can think of

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Speaker 1: temporary freeze on mentioning Fox, then mentioning O'Reilly and mentioning Murdock. Fine,

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Speaker 1: permanent freeze. Might as well let Immelt turn us off

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Speaker 1: in the morning. After all, I don't think Zooker actually

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Speaker 1: heard the last part about em Milt turning us off.

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Speaker 1: After all, the lack of color was returning to his face. Okay, breathe,

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Speaker 1: he kept saying to himself. Breathe, breathe, Okay, breathe. He

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Speaker 1: looked at me and nodded. He pointed at Izzy and

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Speaker 1: at Phil Griffin and me, You and you and you

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Speaker 1: and I. We will talk tomorrow, maybe tonight, and we'll

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Speaker 1: all meet again next week. Until then, nothing about Fox, anybody,

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Speaker 1: are we clear? Nothing on the air about Fox. Silence

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Speaker 1: in the room. Then the assorted noises of people rising,

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Speaker 1: mixed with attempts to resuscitate poor Ed Schultz. Somebody Matthew's

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Speaker 1: guy Harson I think, was almost at the door out

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Speaker 1: of Zucker's office, an office so big that it was

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Speaker 1: to steal the ring Lardner line the signs of the

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Speaker 1: Yale Bowl, but with lamps. And then a voice spoke up,

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Speaker 1: quietly but firmly, Excuse me. It was Rachel Maddow. Excuse me.

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Speaker 1: I will not have the content of my show dictated

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Speaker 1: by any corporations, including the one I work for. Remember

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Speaker 1: this is June two thousand and nine. She still felt

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Speaker 1: that way then, and especially one I don't work for.

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Speaker 1: I will walk out first. I cannot have the audience

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Speaker 1: wondering what else I have not told them. I don't

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Speaker 1: do a lot about Fox on my show, but if

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Speaker 1: there is a story about Fox, I will not honor

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Speaker 1: this freeze. I will report that story. And if I'm

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Speaker 1: prevented from reporting that story, I will leave. Whereupon she left,

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Speaker 1: Zucker barked Phil Alderman, is he stay? When the rest

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Speaker 1: of the room had cleared, Zucker blew air out of

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Speaker 1: his mouth as if it were smoke. He gestured violently

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Speaker 1: at me with his right arm. I told you she

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Speaker 1: was a mistake. You didn't listen to me. I told you.

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Speaker 1: Now she's your problem. All this is your problem. Get

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Speaker 1: her back on the Resida or else. Now I had

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Speaker 1: run out of goodwill and jokes. Oh, I'll get her

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Speaker 1: back on the reservation, Jeff. But if you think this

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Speaker 1: is my problem, just think about what happens if he

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Speaker 1: really does take us off the air, or if it

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Speaker 1: just gets out that he threatened to take us off

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Speaker 1: the air because his mother didn't like what Fox said

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Speaker 1: about him. That's my problem. Uh uh, that's your problem.

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Speaker 1: And it's the problem of the CEO of the freaking

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Speaker 1: sixth largest corporation in the world, who makes his business

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Speaker 1: decisions involving hundreds of millions of dollars of profits based

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Speaker 1: on what his mother says. At this point, Phil Griffin

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Speaker 1: managed to pull Zucker away and Izzy and I made

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Speaker 1: for the door, saying nothing until we were in the elevator. Finally,

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Speaker 1: she asked, what are you going to do about Rachel?

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Speaker 1: I look straight ahead, I have depth perception ish she

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Speaker 1: was while traveling forward, backwards, up or down. Yeah, if

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Speaker 1: I know what I'm gonna do about her. But I

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Speaker 1: got an idea. I mean, the only person she was

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Speaker 1: really talking to in there was herself. This isn't a

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Speaker 1: brand new surprise success for her anymore. This is successful.

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Speaker 1: This is what nine ten months she's successful. She said

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Speaker 1: she was once a dancing cell phone outside of a

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Speaker 1: cell phone store outside of Boston. She ain't going back

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Speaker 1: to that. I went to talk to Rachel about an

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Speaker 1: hour later and reassured her. I mentioned that powerful as

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Speaker 1: Fox was, they were not going to be able to

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Speaker 1: re invade Iraq by themselves, and unless she moved it

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Speaker 1: way closer than it had been, nobody would cross her

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Speaker 1: censorship line. And I said, just give me as much

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Speaker 1: time as the French government took before fleeing during the

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Speaker 1: Nazi advance in nineteen forty. I said, give me, what

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Speaker 1: was it, thirty three days? Give me thirty three days.

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Speaker 1: If we aren't back where we were this morning, we

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Speaker 1: can both quit on the air. I mean that'd be fun,

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Speaker 1: right three nights. Well after midnight on a Friday, my

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Speaker 1: NBC issued BlackBerry buzzed with a quick email from Rachel

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Speaker 1: matdow Hey. She wrote, don't necessarily quote me because I'm

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Speaker 1: really drunk, but just make the best deal you can

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Speaker 1: for us. I trust you. We don't need to do

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Speaker 1: Fox all the time. I never do Fox stories anyway.

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Speaker 1: I just had to say that, and this is the

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Speaker 1: best platform we will ever have. Well, she was right

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Speaker 1: at least for the time being. A couple of weeks

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Speaker 1: later I had to sneak in a script that blasted Fox,

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Speaker 1: and at ten thirty at home that night, I got

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Speaker 1: a call from a drunken Phil Griffin shouting into the phone,

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Speaker 1: I have a family. Zucker had to go meet with

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Speaker 1: Roger Ayles secretly inside thirty Rock, and I hope they

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Speaker 1: remember to clean the room afterwards, and mlt even had

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Speaker 1: to meet with Murdoch. And then, happily, some idiot Ge

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Speaker 1: executive decided to boast to The New York Times about

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Speaker 1: getting us little talent children under control and a big

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Speaker 1: deal with the executives over at Fox and how they'd

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Speaker 1: settled everything, which blew up the whole deal instantly, because

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Speaker 1: the moment the deal went public, NBC looked so stupid,

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Speaker 1: and even NBC News was now risked. The only point

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Speaker 1: of the whole thing was to keep the Immelts and

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Speaker 1: the Zookers and the Griffins and the ales Is from

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Speaker 1: throwing us and our little island of liberal commentary out

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Speaker 1: of that window at thirty Rock. But as Rachel Mattow

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Speaker 1: and I would be constantly reminded in the ensuing years,

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Speaker 1: Thirty Rock has a lot of freaking windows. I have

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Speaker 1: no doubt that that man Emmelt would have taken the

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Speaker 1: network off the air. His ego was that fragile. Happily

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Speaker 1: he was replaced by people from Comcast whose egos are

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Speaker 1: even more fragile. I've done all the damage I can

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Speaker 1: do here, but they've not done all the damage they

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Speaker 1: can do yet there not yet anyway, thank you for listening.

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Speaker 1: We're now back to five episodes a week, posting nightly

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Speaker 1: just after midnight Eastern. Once again there is a Monday Countdown,

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Speaker 1: and thank you kindly for joining in on the live

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Speaker 1: thing after the debate on Tuesday, which cleared I don't

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Speaker 1: know one hundred and twenty five one hundred and fifty

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Speaker 1: my friend Stevie van Zandt, and everything else else was

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Speaker 1: pretty much my fault. So that's countdown for this, the

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Speaker 1: fifty fifth day until the twenty twenty four presidential election,

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Speaker 1: the three hundred and thirty ninth day since convicted feldon dementia.

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Speaker 1: J Trump's first attempted coup against the democratically elected government

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Speaker 1: of the United States normally and heretofore. I've mentioned using

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Speaker 1: presidential immunity, using the mental health system. Now I say,

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Speaker 1: let's just use the election or get him to do

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Speaker 1: another debate to keep him from doing it again while

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Speaker 1: we still can. The next scheduled countdown is tomorrow Bolton's

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Speaker 1: as the news requires. Until the next one, I'm Keith Olberman.

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