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Speaker 1: Welcome to Patriots Unfiltered. Call you're looking good? You've been

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Speaker 3: He says, I know grammar and language come up sometimes,

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Speaker 3: that you still make, Paul, picture is pronounced picture, not

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Speaker 4: Lining up cadence between the quarterbacks and making sure everybody

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Speaker 3: Welcome to day one of Mini Camp. This is Fred Kurst,

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Speaker 3: Mike do So, Evan Lazar and Tamara Brown. We will

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Speaker 1: Here we are, We're here, We're arrived. What a beautiful day,

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Speaker 1: perfect Chris weather, not too humid or sticky or anything

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Speaker 1: this is a fun, uh little final rap here as

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Speaker 1: we get ready for Tom Brady Night on Wednesday. We've

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Speaker 1: got a couple of days of Mini Camp practice and

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Speaker 1: uh and then I guess we get a vacation. That's

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Speaker 1: that's the hope, right, what's that? What's the vacation? It

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Speaker 1: hasn't felt like this offseason, but no, but good to

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Speaker 1: see some names here and everything. Uh, you know, Devon Gotshaw,

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Speaker 1: Matthew Judon, who's moving back out there? Not me me

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Speaker 1: there there we go. Uh, but you know a couple

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Speaker 1: of names, Giromeo did say in his press conference everybody

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Speaker 1: rehab guys, you know, Jiulani Tobai, Kendrick Bourne, Uh, col

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Speaker 1: Gotcha hasn't been around. Those guys are here. So it

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Speaker 1: sounds like giord is happy with the attendance. Yes, so

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Speaker 3: Really got a you know, training can't feel we we

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we've got a chain gang out there.

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Speaker 3: So they're gonna do some down and distance work today.

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Speaker 3: So you're really gonna get a feel for training camp

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Speaker 3: today minus the fans.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, you wonder just how competitive it's gonna be.

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Speaker 1: I know, Jerrod said that there was gonna be some

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Speaker 3: So just just in case people are wondering, you're looking

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Speaker 1: Tamara, what do you got?

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Speaker 4: It said that last week when we talked to Drake

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Speaker 4: My read on it, Tamara, is that they're trying to

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Speaker 4: One of my big things about today is the order

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Speaker 3: I mean, we shouldn't be surprised, right this is only

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we'll just look at the Browns last year with

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Speaker 3: But let's just say that Drake May does show steady

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Speaker 4: Well, I think deadlines matter in the league always, so

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Speaker 4: but maybe it's for a player you know that's a

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Speaker 6: So so and I feel like and having him, it's

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Speaker 1: I mean, I think so it's just it's too important

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Speaker 1: We're good, you know. I mean, I do think that

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Speaker 1: you need quarterbacks like this, we saw what happened. Like

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Speaker 1: Tamara pointed out, with other teams in the past, it's

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Speaker 1: you know, why be in a rush. The three of

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Speaker 3: I think I think when Drake May is ready, you

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Speaker 3: put him in.

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Speaker 1: See I'm in that school. No, yea.

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Speaker 6: I definitely think put d Drake May in when he's ready.

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Speaker 6: But I also think that you need to have a

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Speaker 4: Sure, yeah, I would start Drake May week one, like

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Speaker 8: Yeah, you call it, Evan the Callahan sledge.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, so a couple of couple of absences. I'm still

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Speaker 8: Yeah, we saw Judon and and one little thing about

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Speaker 1: and you're just kind of seeing, you know, they can't

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Speaker 1: move until the guy catches the ball.

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Speaker 3: So you know, I was I was confused when I

440
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Speaker 3: first heard the rule. I thought the line of scrimmage

441
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Speaker 3: was going to be closer to where the ball's being received.

442
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Speaker 3: It really still you still have some distance to you know,

443
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Speaker 3: to get down there from. So it's not so I

444
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Speaker 3: don't think there will be the breakaways that I thought

445
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Speaker 3: there would be if the line was closer, because I

446
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Speaker 3: think now there's time for the you know, for the defense,

447
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Speaker 3: for the kicking team to kind of see where the

448
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Speaker 3: receivers going and kind of adjust.

449
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Speaker 1: Now I can't I'm not sure if the videos get

450
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Speaker 1: are they doing the kickoffs right now? Yeah? But yeah,

451
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Speaker 1: you know there's an example of a ball on its

452
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Speaker 1: side and kind of kind of a squib kick, and

453
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Speaker 1: you can see Marcus Jones having a heck of a

454
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Speaker 1: time trying to feel it. Yeah, you know, that's something

455
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Speaker 1: they've been kind of experimenting with as well. So you

456
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Speaker 1: see the referees involved. I'm sure they're just as curious

457
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Speaker 1: as we are to see, you know, what teams are

458
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Speaker 1: gonna throw at them in these opening weeks. Uh, do

459
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Speaker 1: you go full bore in the preseason to figure out

460
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Speaker 1: how it works? Or do you feel like you know

461
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Speaker 1: and you maybe hold back a little bit for when

462
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Speaker 1: you get into the regular season. US just one of

463
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Speaker 1: those weird things in the NFL where all of a sudden,

464
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Speaker 1: there's gonna be the kickoffs are just gonna be different

465
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Speaker 1: this year. And yeah, I'm sure each team has their

466
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Speaker 1: own philosophy how they're gonna approach it.

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Speaker 7: It seems like the players are I don't know if

468
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Speaker 7: my mind's like it's also.

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Speaker 1: I can't hear you.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, it seemed like the players are excited about the

471
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Speaker 7: new rules.

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Speaker 6: I was laughing today when Gerd Mayo was like that,

473
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Speaker 6: Jelani Tavai was like, and.

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Speaker 1: Put me in.

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Speaker 7: I want to be involved in He's like, you gotta

476
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Speaker 7: get healthy beer. Yeah, So I'm wondering, just you know

477
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Speaker 7: how many other players are that excited about these new

478
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Speaker 7: rule changes.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, Jelani Tavai is bothering Girod to kick

480
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Speaker 4: off as a non kicker like the Chiefs have been doing.

481
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Speaker 4: But we've we've seen them experiment a lot with two returners,

482
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Speaker 4: and I that's gonna have to be the way you go,

483
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Speaker 4: at least for most teams. Because we saw Ryland I

484
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Speaker 4: think it was is that just kicked off one where

485
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Speaker 4: he angled it, you know, you.

486
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Speaker 1: Know, Mortar kicked it right to a spot.

487
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Speaker 4: And if teams are gonna do that and the returners

488
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Speaker 4: in the middle or the returners on the left hand

489
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Speaker 4: side trying to set up the return the kicker is

490
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Speaker 4: just going to kick the ball like a punt, directionally

491
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Speaker 4: away from where the returner is and now all of

492
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Speaker 4: a sudden, you're down inside the ten, down inside the

493
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Speaker 4: five if it's a good bound. So I think teams

494
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Speaker 4: are going to experiment with this two returner look, and

495
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Speaker 4: then the other thing I would say is just all

496
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Speaker 4: the different things you can do off of two returners

497
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Speaker 4: is really intriguing as well, because you can do reverses,

498
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Speaker 4: you can do fake reverses, the returner that doesn't get

499
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Speaker 4: the ball can turn into a lead blocker. You know,

500
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Speaker 4: there's all sorts of different type of schematic things that

501
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Speaker 4: that are gonna be fun and interesting teams that have

502
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Speaker 4: a risk.

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Speaker 6: And I was gonna say, I really like that two

504
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Speaker 6: returner idea, and I think that could be a way

505
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Speaker 6: that a guy like Jalen Rager makes this roster is

506
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Speaker 6: if you have Jalen Rager and Marcus Jones back there,

507
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Speaker 6: I think that could be a dynamic duo that could

508
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Speaker 6: make them really successful in.

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Speaker 1: This new rule.

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Speaker 3: But with the kicking team not being able to release

511
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Speaker 3: off the line of scrimmage until the ball is either

512
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Speaker 3: caught or hits the ground, I think you're guaranteed to

513
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Speaker 3: have a return at least to the twenty five.

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Speaker 1: Yeah it seems right, I mean, yeah, it would seem

515
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Speaker 1: that way. But you know, even just watching these couple here,

516
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Speaker 1: it's it's tough. It's tough to field it, and you

517
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Speaker 1: know what, you even if you have these grandiose plans

518
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Speaker 1: of how you're gonna use two returners. If the guy

519
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Speaker 1: can't cleanly feel the ball, it's it's hard to then

520
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Speaker 1: all right, now get up and run the you know.

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Speaker 3: Well that's a strategy maybe is like give us a

522
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Speaker 3: couple extra seconds, you know, to get down there, because

523
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Speaker 3: like I said, you can release once it hits the ground.

524
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Speaker 3: You don't have to wait until it's in the returner's hands, right,

525
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Speaker 3: So that gives you that couple extra seconds to get

526
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Speaker 3: down there, because without that, like I said, you're guaranteed

527
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Speaker 3: to be at least to the twenty five before anyone

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Speaker 3: you know, was even near them.

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Speaker 4: That's why, that's why I believe the best thing to

530
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Speaker 4: do is to hit those line drive mortar kicks that

531
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Speaker 4: they were just experimenting with and make the ball bounce,

532
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Speaker 4: because then the returner also then then we'll have to

533
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Speaker 4: corral it then get himself set up to run. Whereas

534
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Speaker 4: the kickoff coverage unit they can go as soon as

535
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Speaker 4: the ball hits the ground. I'm really fascinated to see

536
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Speaker 4: how they block it because you can't move until the

537
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Speaker 4: ball either hits the ground or the returner catches it.

538
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Speaker 4: And a lot of guys have their back to the returner,

539
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Speaker 4: so you don't know exactly how so someone's gonna have

540
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Speaker 4: to call it out on the line of scrimmage that

541
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Speaker 4: go type of signal. And what we've seen so far,

542
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Speaker 4: the ones that they've done in practice, is they've really

543
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Speaker 4: struggled to get that initial point of attack block and

544
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Speaker 4: there's one guy through that just every single time he's

545
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Speaker 4: just through the line of scrimmage because of how difficult

546
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Speaker 4: it is to get the angle, and you just see

547
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Speaker 4: it time and time again that the returners just met

548
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Speaker 4: right away. So that's why I still think that having

549
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Speaker 4: somebody back there that can dance a little bit like

550
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Speaker 4: a Marcus Jones, like a Pop Douglas, that has some

551
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Speaker 4: of that agility and that escapability is going to be

552
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Speaker 4: big because the straight line speed guy is just going

553
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Speaker 4: to run into a brick wall.

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Speaker 3: So the main reason they're doing this is, you know, health, right,

555
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Speaker 3: do you think that's actually going to accomplish that?

556
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Speaker 8: I mean, it seems like, I don't know, it's a

557
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Speaker 8: good question, just as much chance to get hurt on

558
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Speaker 8: this and.

559
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Speaker 4: Not statistically, how do we know because of the spring

560
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Speaker 4: leagues that have done it so far.

561
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Speaker 1: Yeah, but they're not as fast and as big.

562
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Speaker 4: Right, but there's not a full you're talking about a

563
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Speaker 4: much smaller gap that you're running up.

564
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Speaker 1: That's the problem.

565
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Speaker 4: Is like it's almost like a mini car crash when

566
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Speaker 4: you go from you know, the thirty all the way

567
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Speaker 4: down the field. So there's a lot everybody's moving a

568
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Speaker 4: lot slower on this play than what they would on

569
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Speaker 4: a traditional NFL kickoff. So that's the idea. The concussion

570
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Speaker 4: numbers in the spring leagues are way way down compared

571
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Speaker 4: to the traditional NFL rule kickoff. So their early returns

572
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Speaker 4: from what they've done it in different leagues suggests that

573
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Speaker 4: it's it's going to limit injuries significantly.

574
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Speaker 1: Okay, well we'll see. I was just going to point

575
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Speaker 1: out Fred. One more thing that we've noticed before is

576
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Speaker 1: right now you have Juju Smith Schuster and Taekwon Thornton

577
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Speaker 1: working just with Tyler Hughes right now, so you know,

578
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Speaker 1: the offense down there seems like they're kind of working

579
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Speaker 1: on screen game. But these are two guys that, you know,

580
00:26:03,840 --> 00:26:06,040
Speaker 1: talk about a really loaded wide receipt. I don't want

581
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Speaker 1: to say loaded in terms of, like you know, maybe

582
00:26:07,880 --> 00:26:10,240
Speaker 1: not the talent part, but loaded with bodies right now,

583
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Speaker 1: at least two veteran guys who you brought some young

584
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Speaker 1: guys in. You signed kJ Osborne. Clearly these guys right

585
00:26:16,720 --> 00:26:20,239
Speaker 1: now don't play special teams. So you know, Taekwon had

586
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Speaker 1: had a pretty good few OTA sessions. I mean, he's

587
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Speaker 1: made some plays. We saw it last year too, but

588
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Speaker 1: I think he's a guy wants to keep that momentum

589
00:26:27,680 --> 00:26:29,760
Speaker 1: going love to see. I mean Juju showed up a

590
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Speaker 1: couple times last OTA two. So you know, just two

591
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Speaker 1: veterans that feels like their backs are a little bit

592
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Speaker 1: against the wall and they need to have strong days

593
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Speaker 1: every I think every time they come out here.

594
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Speaker 6: An you know, I've singled them out as my odd

595
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Speaker 6: men out. I feel like all off season long in

596
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Speaker 6: terms of I see those two as the potential to

597
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Speaker 6: not to make the roster when it comes down to

598
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Speaker 6: the final fifty three. And I think they're going to

599
00:26:49,600 --> 00:26:52,119
Speaker 6: have to be consistent, not just one day in OTAs,

600
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Speaker 6: but the entire camp in order for them to have

601
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Speaker 6: a chance.

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Speaker 4: They have seen Taekwon as a gunner on special teams

603
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Speaker 4: a little bit, but with his frame, you worry about

604
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Speaker 4: injuries happening from him playing that spot. But we should

605
00:27:06,000 --> 00:27:07,560
Speaker 4: say not that, you know, I know, we're spending a

606
00:27:07,600 --> 00:27:09,200
Speaker 4: lot of time on special teams. So that's what they're

607
00:27:09,200 --> 00:27:12,200
Speaker 4: doing right now. Without Matthew Slater, there is a wide

608
00:27:12,280 --> 00:27:16,240
Speaker 4: open competition there for the other gunner spot. I'm sure

609
00:27:16,240 --> 00:27:18,800
Speaker 4: assuming Brendan Schooler is going to be on one side there,

610
00:27:18,840 --> 00:27:20,879
Speaker 4: but on the other side that there's going to be

611
00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:23,800
Speaker 4: an opportunity there for somebody to take over for Slater.

612
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Speaker 1: I don't see it with Taekwon.

613
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Speaker 4: I just don't see the fit with his frame, and

614
00:27:28,359 --> 00:27:30,439
Speaker 4: I think he's going to get jammed a lot and

615
00:27:30,480 --> 00:27:32,959
Speaker 4: not be able to make a huge impact as a gunner.

616
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Speaker 1: But if you want to talk about him having a

617
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Speaker 1: role on.

618
00:27:35,800 --> 00:27:38,600
Speaker 4: Special teams at all, that's probably where you're gonna find

619
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Speaker 4: himself on the field in that phase of the game.

620
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Speaker 6: And speaking of frame, I could see that being the

621
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Speaker 6: reason why that Juju ends up making the team because

622
00:27:45,640 --> 00:27:48,200
Speaker 6: of his frame and his ability to block and help

623
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Speaker 6: other things with the offense that EVP is trying to run.

624
00:27:50,560 --> 00:27:53,359
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think Juju's spot is big on what Kendrick

625
00:27:53,400 --> 00:27:56,160
Speaker 4: Bourne's health is to start the year. If Kendrick Bourne

626
00:27:56,160 --> 00:27:59,240
Speaker 4: has to start the year on IR pup then maybe

627
00:27:59,240 --> 00:28:01,439
Speaker 4: that opens up this bought for juju. But if you

628
00:28:01,480 --> 00:28:05,000
Speaker 4: have juju, you have Kendrick Born healthy, you have Jalen Polk,

629
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Speaker 4: even Javon Baker a little bit kJ Osborne. It's a

630
00:28:08,160 --> 00:28:10,600
Speaker 4: lot of the same type of receiver and we're pretty

631
00:28:10,600 --> 00:28:14,600
Speaker 4: redundant there. So I wonder if how much Born's health

632
00:28:14,640 --> 00:28:16,280
Speaker 4: will play a role in all of this.

633
00:28:16,720 --> 00:28:19,760
Speaker 1: So doing some punt here out of the end zone.

634
00:28:19,840 --> 00:28:22,320
Speaker 1: You know, again, just talk about Adrian Phillips. I mean

635
00:28:22,359 --> 00:28:24,280
Speaker 1: a guy you know, nobody's really mentioned him, but you

636
00:28:24,280 --> 00:28:26,360
Speaker 1: know it did play a pretty sizeable special teams role.

637
00:28:26,760 --> 00:28:28,040
Speaker 1: You know, it's the up back on the on the

638
00:28:28,040 --> 00:28:30,040
Speaker 1: punt team. You have Marty mop who you got Jalen

639
00:28:30,080 --> 00:28:32,399
Speaker 1: Hawkins in there now, so you know, it's not just

640
00:28:32,800 --> 00:28:36,119
Speaker 1: Slater's role on special teams. It's a number of different

641
00:28:36,160 --> 00:28:39,480
Speaker 1: roles including you know, Chris Board's gone, I mean a

642
00:28:39,520 --> 00:28:41,840
Speaker 1: lot of you know, Cody Davis, these guys that played

643
00:28:42,280 --> 00:28:45,640
Speaker 1: extensive special corning roles. So you know, Paul not here,

644
00:28:45,680 --> 00:28:47,240
Speaker 1: So just to give him a shout out, you know,

645
00:28:47,280 --> 00:28:50,000
Speaker 1: it's like just getting Mapoo involved in stuff like that,

646
00:28:50,080 --> 00:28:52,160
Speaker 1: you know, getting him on the field as much as possible.

647
00:28:52,160 --> 00:28:54,080
Speaker 1: I don't know how the safety position is going to

648
00:28:54,120 --> 00:28:56,120
Speaker 1: play out, but you know, again, it goes back to

649
00:28:56,160 --> 00:28:59,920
Speaker 1: the first point, young players having an opportunity, but not

650
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Speaker 1: just special teams. Guys like Marty Mapu, guy that you

651
00:29:02,400 --> 00:29:04,520
Speaker 1: want to see on defense that you know it's gonna

652
00:29:04,520 --> 00:29:07,479
Speaker 1: probably play some special teams as well now and hopefully

653
00:29:07,560 --> 00:29:10,440
Speaker 1: that helps give them, you know, some development. Yeah.

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Speaker 4: I asked a Girodd about Marty Maphu and he consistently

655
00:29:14,640 --> 00:29:17,720
Speaker 4: mentioned that the versatility is going to be big for him,

656
00:29:17,760 --> 00:29:20,560
Speaker 4: where if you're paying a heavy run team, you're probably

657
00:29:20,560 --> 00:29:22,600
Speaker 4: not gonna play him at the second level of the defense,

658
00:29:22,680 --> 00:29:24,640
Speaker 4: but maybe in other weeks where you're playing more of

659
00:29:24,640 --> 00:29:27,880
Speaker 4: a spread offense, he could fit there as a traditional linebacker.

660
00:29:28,400 --> 00:29:30,720
Speaker 4: When they scouted him, he said that they viewed him

661
00:29:30,720 --> 00:29:33,680
Speaker 4: in three different spots potentially like a big nickel role

662
00:29:33,760 --> 00:29:37,760
Speaker 4: in the slot, safety and inside linebacker, and he just

663
00:29:37,760 --> 00:29:39,680
Speaker 4: said that it's going to be a matchup base thing

664
00:29:39,720 --> 00:29:42,240
Speaker 4: that they're gonna move him around and use him as.

665
00:29:42,120 --> 00:29:42,840
Speaker 1: A chess piece.

666
00:29:43,240 --> 00:29:45,680
Speaker 4: That sounds great in theory, but you have to be

667
00:29:45,720 --> 00:29:48,480
Speaker 4: able to hang your hat on one thing. I feel

668
00:29:48,480 --> 00:29:51,920
Speaker 4: like in this league to make it consistently. So it's

669
00:29:51,960 --> 00:29:53,560
Speaker 4: cool to be a jack of all trades, but you

670
00:29:53,640 --> 00:29:55,480
Speaker 4: also have to have something that this is what I'm

671
00:29:55,520 --> 00:29:57,080
Speaker 4: really good at, and this is where I go on

672
00:29:57,440 --> 00:29:59,680
Speaker 4: third in money, you know the games on the line,

673
00:29:59,800 --> 00:30:00,560
Speaker 4: that's our corner.

674
00:30:00,560 --> 00:30:03,440
Speaker 1: They're using that callahan sled. Now. Yeah, it doesn't look fun.

675
00:30:03,560 --> 00:30:06,240
Speaker 3: You can see it's it's a little bit tougher than

676
00:30:06,320 --> 00:30:08,840
Speaker 3: the normal sled.

677
00:30:09,120 --> 00:30:12,920
Speaker 1: Yeah. As soon as you get too high, it stops. Yeah,

678
00:30:12,920 --> 00:30:16,400
Speaker 1: and that's you know, the whole thing with That's why

679
00:30:16,480 --> 00:30:19,480
Speaker 1: I was a terrible offensive and defensive lineman because I'm

680
00:30:19,520 --> 00:30:22,680
Speaker 1: too high and every single time got underneath me and

681
00:30:22,720 --> 00:30:23,640
Speaker 1: just pushed me right back.

682
00:30:23,640 --> 00:30:25,000
Speaker 4: It's not it's not the skinny frame.

683
00:30:27,200 --> 00:30:30,600
Speaker 8: Quarterbacks are doing some target practice in the middle of

684
00:30:30,600 --> 00:30:31,040
Speaker 8: the field.

685
00:30:31,280 --> 00:30:33,040
Speaker 1: It's cool. They have colors on there. Now.

686
00:30:33,280 --> 00:30:36,120
Speaker 4: They have also been doing numbers at different times, so

687
00:30:36,720 --> 00:30:39,120
Speaker 4: they call it out in the drop. They don't tell

688
00:30:39,160 --> 00:30:41,720
Speaker 4: you beforehand, so they'll go through the drop and then

689
00:30:41,760 --> 00:30:44,320
Speaker 4: a VP will say blue, red, white, Right, I think

690
00:30:44,320 --> 00:30:46,920
Speaker 4: it's the three colors, and then they have to make

691
00:30:46,960 --> 00:30:50,120
Speaker 4: a split second decision a reaction to throw it in

692
00:30:50,120 --> 00:30:50,800
Speaker 4: the right target.

693
00:30:50,960 --> 00:30:53,640
Speaker 3: Yep, you got red, blue on the outside whites in

694
00:30:53,680 --> 00:30:54,080
Speaker 3: the middle.

695
00:30:56,000 --> 00:31:00,200
Speaker 4: They said they're keeping track who's winning. Okay, Bailey's he

696
00:31:00,200 --> 00:31:06,480
Speaker 4: claims that he's winning. Shocking, okay, yeah, somebody there.

697
00:31:06,680 --> 00:31:08,680
Speaker 1: I mean, and for those tracking reps, it does seem

698
00:31:08,760 --> 00:31:10,160
Speaker 1: like Bailey's he's going sun.

699
00:31:12,000 --> 00:31:15,320
Speaker 4: They read they said, sorry.

700
00:31:14,840 --> 00:31:20,120
Speaker 1: Drake made demoted already. What happened? My gosh, kid, I

701
00:31:20,200 --> 00:31:23,720
Speaker 1: kid uh. I am curious too. Though Javon Baker warmed

702
00:31:23,800 --> 00:31:27,320
Speaker 1: up last week, didn't really practice, I'm curious if he's

703
00:31:27,320 --> 00:31:29,680
Speaker 1: gonna be participating much at all today.

704
00:31:29,920 --> 00:31:31,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, it sounds like there's a few of those guys still.

705
00:31:32,080 --> 00:31:35,600
Speaker 4: You mentioned Taki Taki. Yeah, Girod mentioned Lani Tavai as

706
00:31:35,600 --> 00:31:38,120
Speaker 4: someone that's a little bit banged up for this time

707
00:31:38,160 --> 00:31:41,040
Speaker 4: of year. So they're gonna be a couple of guys

708
00:31:41,080 --> 00:31:42,360
Speaker 4: that aren't going to be a full go.

709
00:31:42,520 --> 00:31:44,280
Speaker 1: I think it's just like and then, and I know

710
00:31:44,320 --> 00:31:47,040
Speaker 1: it's spring, and it's you know, we're in June here,

711
00:31:47,080 --> 00:31:51,280
Speaker 1: but just think with a rookie receiver loaded room, every

712
00:31:51,320 --> 00:31:53,600
Speaker 1: time you're missing reps, it's just it just isn't great.

713
00:31:53,680 --> 00:31:56,360
Speaker 1: So I just love to see Baker up back out

714
00:31:56,360 --> 00:31:57,400
Speaker 1: there as a SAP.

715
00:31:57,440 --> 00:31:59,040
Speaker 6: But I like that you mentioned that, dude, because I

716
00:31:59,040 --> 00:32:01,440
Speaker 6: feel like that's why Taekwon is where he is today,

717
00:32:01,560 --> 00:32:02,800
Speaker 6: Like he's just been hurt.

718
00:32:02,640 --> 00:32:04,560
Speaker 1: All the Harry I mean, you know, like not to

719
00:32:04,600 --> 00:32:07,120
Speaker 1: say that, like, you know, Nikhil Harry or Taekwon would

720
00:32:07,200 --> 00:32:10,640
Speaker 1: be off to a great career, you know, had they

721
00:32:10,800 --> 00:32:13,400
Speaker 1: not gotten hurt early on. But it just it just

722
00:32:13,440 --> 00:32:15,960
Speaker 1: doesn't help. And the guys that, you know, like Jacobe

723
00:32:15,960 --> 00:32:19,520
Speaker 1: Myers who was just always out there and just kept

724
00:32:19,560 --> 00:32:22,320
Speaker 1: stacking it day after day after day, and you know,

725
00:32:22,400 --> 00:32:25,360
Speaker 1: earning the quarterbacks trust, earning the coaches trust. What do

726
00:32:25,400 --> 00:32:28,640
Speaker 1: they always say, like, you know, availability Trump's ability, Like

727
00:32:29,120 --> 00:32:32,040
Speaker 1: that's you know, that's such a big thing. So hopefully

728
00:32:32,080 --> 00:32:33,800
Speaker 1: Baker's able to get back out there, you know, but

729
00:32:34,120 --> 00:32:35,920
Speaker 1: Polk's been out there. He's been out there plenty, and

730
00:32:36,360 --> 00:32:38,280
Speaker 1: you know he's been one that has gotten plenty of reps.

731
00:32:38,360 --> 00:32:39,760
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'd like to see a little bit more out

732
00:32:39,760 --> 00:32:40,120
Speaker 4: of Polk.

733
00:32:40,480 --> 00:32:42,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, and some of the team drills.

734
00:32:42,760 --> 00:32:44,560
Speaker 4: One of the big things you worried about him was

735
00:32:44,640 --> 00:32:48,160
Speaker 4: just speeding separation ability, and yeah, like his skill set

736
00:32:48,160 --> 00:32:50,160
Speaker 4: will probably shine a little bit more once the pads

737
00:32:50,200 --> 00:32:51,800
Speaker 4: come on and can be a little bit more physical

738
00:32:51,880 --> 00:32:54,280
Speaker 4: and win at the catch point, but still with the

739
00:32:54,360 --> 00:32:58,360
Speaker 4: receiver when you're in non contact, non padded practices, you'd

740
00:32:58,400 --> 00:33:00,280
Speaker 4: like to see some flashes from him to be able

741
00:33:00,320 --> 00:33:03,560
Speaker 4: to get open and create some separation when guys can't

742
00:33:03,600 --> 00:33:05,960
Speaker 4: really get their hands on them or do much physically

743
00:33:06,000 --> 00:33:08,760
Speaker 4: right now, so he has been a little bit quiet.

744
00:33:09,200 --> 00:33:11,840
Speaker 4: I'm still thinking that he's probably more in that Jacobe

745
00:33:11,880 --> 00:33:14,520
Speaker 4: Meyers school of training. Camp is not really gonna be

746
00:33:14,560 --> 00:33:16,400
Speaker 4: where he's gonna shine and then we're gonna get into

747
00:33:16,440 --> 00:33:18,680
Speaker 4: the games and he's gonna make all these plays, but

748
00:33:18,880 --> 00:33:19,280
Speaker 4: we'll see.

749
00:33:19,360 --> 00:33:21,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's a little bit. You know, he's in that

750
00:33:21,440 --> 00:33:24,960
Speaker 1: rookie spot right now where there are veterans out there

751
00:33:25,000 --> 00:33:27,840
Speaker 1: that are kind of taking the top reps. And you know,

752
00:33:27,880 --> 00:33:30,720
Speaker 1: you see Polk and Baker trying to develop that chemistry

753
00:33:30,760 --> 00:33:33,480
Speaker 1: with May but hard to kind of earn it with Brissett,

754
00:33:34,000 --> 00:33:37,200
Speaker 1: you know, and limited opportunities you're kind of rotating through

755
00:33:37,240 --> 00:33:39,280
Speaker 1: the quarterbacks. You know. It just love to see him

756
00:33:39,320 --> 00:33:41,800
Speaker 1: get some consistent reps with one of the quarterback who

757
00:33:41,840 --> 00:33:44,440
Speaker 1: starts to, you know, play into what he's good at

758
00:33:44,440 --> 00:33:46,920
Speaker 1: and you know, find the spots that he likes to

759
00:33:46,920 --> 00:33:49,240
Speaker 1: get the ball start to see some of that stuff.

760
00:33:49,280 --> 00:33:51,080
Speaker 1: But I'd love to see him outside too, like just

761
00:33:51,080 --> 00:33:53,240
Speaker 1: to see you know, all these guys, like you said earlier,

762
00:33:53,280 --> 00:33:56,440
Speaker 1: Evan are inside kind of receivers. I mean most of them.

763
00:33:56,480 --> 00:33:58,160
Speaker 1: It's like, oh, well he can play outside, but most

764
00:33:58,200 --> 00:34:00,560
Speaker 1: of them are inside guys, but him and I'd love

765
00:34:00,600 --> 00:34:02,240
Speaker 1: to see them just you know, be able to get

766
00:34:02,240 --> 00:34:03,800
Speaker 1: outside a little bit, get off the line. I mean,

767
00:34:03,840 --> 00:34:06,280
Speaker 1: I think Baker's movement skills have been I have made

768
00:34:06,280 --> 00:34:07,800
Speaker 1: an impression on Would you guys agree?

769
00:34:08,080 --> 00:34:10,080
Speaker 3: You know, we have two practice fields in front of us,

770
00:34:10,200 --> 00:34:12,600
Speaker 3: and the one to our left has been totally devoted

771
00:34:12,600 --> 00:34:15,439
Speaker 3: to special teams so far. Would you agree that that's

772
00:34:15,560 --> 00:34:18,800
Speaker 3: something we haven't seen before, that they've devoted one field

773
00:34:18,800 --> 00:34:21,560
Speaker 3: to special teams for this long Yeah, lot of practice

774
00:34:21,560 --> 00:34:21,960
Speaker 3: a little bit.

775
00:34:22,040 --> 00:34:23,640
Speaker 1: I mean they're kind of long. Yeah, they're kind of

776
00:34:23,640 --> 00:34:25,520
Speaker 1: going through it. I mean they did kickoff. Now they're

777
00:34:25,560 --> 00:34:28,600
Speaker 1: doing punt. We'll see what they get into now. But no,

778
00:34:28,719 --> 00:34:31,719
Speaker 1: I think that's a you know, pretty good observation list.

779
00:34:31,719 --> 00:34:33,879
Speaker 1: Like Gotcha does have his jersey on down there now too,

780
00:34:33,960 --> 00:34:35,520
Speaker 1: So I don't know what with that the kickoff and

781
00:34:35,560 --> 00:34:36,120
Speaker 1: roll the.

782
00:34:36,120 --> 00:34:38,439
Speaker 4: Time spent on the kickoff role will be interesting. Yeah,

783
00:34:38,480 --> 00:34:40,480
Speaker 4: I feel like you have to devote a little bit

784
00:34:40,560 --> 00:34:43,919
Speaker 4: extra practice time this offseason to the kickoff role. Then

785
00:34:43,960 --> 00:34:46,360
Speaker 4: maybe that is why it was bleeding into the punt

786
00:34:46,560 --> 00:34:48,600
Speaker 4: period and why it lasted a little bit longer.

787
00:34:48,600 --> 00:34:51,399
Speaker 6: And also special teams last year was not very good

788
00:34:51,560 --> 00:34:53,640
Speaker 6: at all, and so when you have a new rule,

789
00:34:53,680 --> 00:34:55,480
Speaker 6: they weren't really that good last year. Plus all those

790
00:34:55,480 --> 00:34:58,319
Speaker 6: people that we talked about but aren't on special teams anymore. Yeah,

791
00:34:58,360 --> 00:35:00,160
Speaker 6: I feel like you need to dedicate this time for

792
00:35:00,200 --> 00:35:00,400
Speaker 6: it and.

793
00:35:00,600 --> 00:35:04,000
Speaker 3: The new special teams. Pointer Jeremy Springer, he's he's a

794
00:35:04,120 --> 00:35:06,880
Speaker 3: high energy guy. He's a high energy guy.

795
00:35:06,760 --> 00:35:07,920
Speaker 7: So definitely energiz.

796
00:35:08,360 --> 00:35:11,880
Speaker 3: I met him in the spring at our coaches clinic

797
00:35:11,960 --> 00:35:14,319
Speaker 3: and I asked him, I said, you know, whether at

798
00:35:14,320 --> 00:35:16,560
Speaker 3: any of your other stops, like how often do you

799
00:35:16,640 --> 00:35:19,439
Speaker 3: have to lobby for more time and practice like all

800
00:35:19,480 --> 00:35:22,920
Speaker 3: the time, all the time? You know, So that's a

801
00:35:23,080 --> 00:35:25,760
Speaker 3: good indication that he might be winning those arguments.

802
00:35:26,080 --> 00:35:27,520
Speaker 1: He looks a lot more in his element. I know

803
00:35:27,560 --> 00:35:29,480
Speaker 1: when we first met him back in like February, he

804
00:35:29,520 --> 00:35:31,640
Speaker 1: did not look like he was enjoying the local weather.

805
00:35:31,719 --> 00:35:34,080
Speaker 1: But now it seems like he's got his his big

806
00:35:34,160 --> 00:35:37,000
Speaker 1: son hat on and in his short so I think

807
00:35:37,080 --> 00:35:39,280
Speaker 1: he sees a little bit more in his happy place

808
00:35:39,320 --> 00:35:40,400
Speaker 1: now than he was in the winner.

809
00:35:40,480 --> 00:35:43,040
Speaker 4: I've yet to come across a special teams coach that

810
00:35:43,120 --> 00:35:43,839
Speaker 4: isn't a ball Avner.

811
00:35:43,880 --> 00:35:44,440
Speaker 1: Oh yeah right.

812
00:35:44,480 --> 00:35:47,160
Speaker 4: I even cam Accord, for all of the faults, was

813
00:35:47,640 --> 00:35:49,600
Speaker 4: a firecracker on the field.

814
00:35:49,360 --> 00:35:50,440
Speaker 1: Coffee mainline.

815
00:35:50,480 --> 00:35:52,560
Speaker 4: In order to be one of those guys that's in

816
00:35:52,600 --> 00:35:54,640
Speaker 4: the weeds like that on special teams, you have to

817
00:35:54,640 --> 00:35:55,480
Speaker 4: be a little bit of a nun.

818
00:35:55,520 --> 00:35:57,359
Speaker 3: I think you see some of the running backs doing

819
00:35:57,400 --> 00:36:00,160
Speaker 3: some footwork drills with the bad.

820
00:36:02,800 --> 00:36:04,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, it seems like this is a little bit of

821
00:36:04,320 --> 00:36:06,360
Speaker 1: a new thing too, where they throw some tunes on

822
00:36:06,520 --> 00:36:08,960
Speaker 1: when uh, you know, when they're getting ready to warm up.

823
00:36:09,400 --> 00:36:12,600
Speaker 1: These kind of little team individual not individual team warm

824
00:36:12,680 --> 00:36:15,879
Speaker 1: up drills. A little easier to move when you gotta

825
00:36:15,880 --> 00:36:19,560
Speaker 1: beat right. Yeah, sure, keep it up, keep it but

826
00:36:19,680 --> 00:36:22,959
Speaker 1: again Baker, so Baker is here bringing up the rear

827
00:36:23,520 --> 00:36:26,480
Speaker 1: in these wide receiver drills, which we'll see these sticks

828
00:36:26,640 --> 00:36:27,520
Speaker 1: than they did last week.

829
00:36:27,600 --> 00:36:40,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, a good sign, Steve Belichick. I'm not I'm sorry

830
00:36:40,200 --> 00:36:42,080
Speaker 3: not Steve Brian Belichick.

831
00:36:45,560 --> 00:36:48,359
Speaker 1: Did have Steve here last week, right, did he was visiting? Yeah?

832
00:36:48,440 --> 00:36:51,720
Speaker 1: He brought some of his uh fellow coaches from Washington

833
00:36:57,400 --> 00:36:59,919
Speaker 1: last Yeah. M hmm.

834
00:37:00,480 --> 00:37:04,680
Speaker 4: Watching the quarterback's throw, I still feel like this is

835
00:37:04,920 --> 00:37:08,040
Speaker 4: the best look that we're gonna get of Drake May's

836
00:37:08,120 --> 00:37:09,480
Speaker 4: mechanics for a while.

837
00:37:09,880 --> 00:37:12,440
Speaker 1: And I do see some improvements.

838
00:37:12,480 --> 00:37:13,960
Speaker 4: I mean, I'm not gonna tell you that it's the

839
00:37:13,960 --> 00:37:18,719
Speaker 4: world's difference, but you see his front arm is a

840
00:37:18,760 --> 00:37:20,840
Speaker 4: little bit more tucked in and it was when we

841
00:37:20,880 --> 00:37:23,000
Speaker 4: first got here. I think they've worked hard on that

842
00:37:23,120 --> 00:37:26,120
Speaker 4: to try to shorten up the release in the whole emotion. Yeah,

843
00:37:26,160 --> 00:37:29,560
Speaker 4: and his footwork. I think it's been better than what

844
00:37:29,680 --> 00:37:32,359
Speaker 4: a lot of us expected it to be. Obviously, there's

845
00:37:32,360 --> 00:37:34,560
Speaker 4: no live pass rush yet, so we'll see. But you

846
00:37:34,560 --> 00:37:37,840
Speaker 4: can see the arm is more like wishbone now, whereas

847
00:37:37,880 --> 00:37:40,560
Speaker 4: before when he would come up open, his whole shoulders

848
00:37:40,560 --> 00:37:43,000
Speaker 4: and everything kind of shrug up together like that, and

849
00:37:43,040 --> 00:37:46,120
Speaker 4: it just created a much longer throwing motion. So you

850
00:37:46,120 --> 00:37:47,880
Speaker 4: can see some of the things that they're trying to

851
00:37:48,400 --> 00:37:51,440
Speaker 4: do to tighten it up just a little bit. You

852
00:37:51,440 --> 00:37:53,160
Speaker 4: don't want to tweak it too much because then you

853
00:37:53,200 --> 00:37:55,960
Speaker 4: get into a position where he can break completely if

854
00:37:55,960 --> 00:37:58,719
Speaker 4: you're messing with too many different elements of his throwing motion.

855
00:37:59,320 --> 00:38:01,359
Speaker 4: But you definitely can see the little tweaks that they're

856
00:38:01,360 --> 00:38:01,839
Speaker 4: trying to make.

857
00:38:01,960 --> 00:38:04,560
Speaker 6: So how long do you think it takes to develop

858
00:38:04,920 --> 00:38:07,319
Speaker 6: these good habits like completely, like get rid of the

859
00:38:07,400 --> 00:38:09,880
Speaker 6: old habits and then always do the.

860
00:38:10,600 --> 00:38:12,640
Speaker 4: Work I feel like you can do in an off season.

861
00:38:13,160 --> 00:38:15,440
Speaker 4: But like I said, you want to start from the

862
00:38:15,440 --> 00:38:17,719
Speaker 4: ground up, and that's what they're doing. They're working on

863
00:38:17,719 --> 00:38:20,320
Speaker 4: his feet first, to time up his feet, with his eyes,

864
00:38:20,320 --> 00:38:22,960
Speaker 4: with the drop, with the routes that are being run.

865
00:38:22,960 --> 00:38:25,160
Speaker 3: And the thing is like, it'll look good now, but

866
00:38:25,680 --> 00:38:29,080
Speaker 3: the key is when it's real and it's pressure, does

867
00:38:29,080 --> 00:38:31,920
Speaker 3: he revert back to his old habits, which is what

868
00:38:32,000 --> 00:38:32,879
Speaker 3: a lot of guys do.

869
00:38:32,920 --> 00:38:35,840
Speaker 8: They go back to what's comfortable under pressure.

870
00:38:36,040 --> 00:38:38,560
Speaker 4: Absolutely yeah, And I think if you start to mess

871
00:38:38,600 --> 00:38:42,479
Speaker 4: with too many different elements and one fell swoop, that's

872
00:38:42,520 --> 00:38:46,560
Speaker 4: when you also risk him just completely coming apart mechanically.

873
00:38:46,960 --> 00:38:49,640
Speaker 4: So I like the fact that they're starting with the feet.

874
00:38:49,920 --> 00:38:52,120
Speaker 4: Let's focus on that and let's not worry so much

875
00:38:52,120 --> 00:38:54,239
Speaker 4: about the upper body yet, and then they'll get to

876
00:38:54,280 --> 00:38:56,439
Speaker 4: the upper body maybe next off season is the upper

877
00:38:56,480 --> 00:38:58,759
Speaker 4: body off season, you know, so you have to work

878
00:38:58,760 --> 00:39:01,839
Speaker 4: in almost stages because you don't want to just throw

879
00:39:01,880 --> 00:39:04,000
Speaker 4: it all at him at once because then he's got

880
00:39:04,000 --> 00:39:05,279
Speaker 4: a lot on his plate at that point.

881
00:39:05,280 --> 00:39:08,359
Speaker 3: And you know, honestly, though, when you look at mey,

882
00:39:09,280 --> 00:39:12,600
Speaker 3: we're nitpicking. You know, it looks fine, you know, but

883
00:39:12,800 --> 00:39:15,960
Speaker 3: like you can always improve and if you can, you know,

884
00:39:16,040 --> 00:39:20,040
Speaker 3: get a split second faster release, then do it. And

885
00:39:20,200 --> 00:39:22,720
Speaker 3: if you can get your footwork, you know, your base

886
00:39:23,120 --> 00:39:26,040
Speaker 3: a little bit better, then do it. But when you

887
00:39:26,080 --> 00:39:29,160
Speaker 3: look at him, he looks fine, but like I said,

888
00:39:29,200 --> 00:39:30,719
Speaker 3: there's always room for improvement.

889
00:39:30,880 --> 00:39:33,839
Speaker 4: Yeah, last week he threw that interception where he threw

890
00:39:33,880 --> 00:39:36,800
Speaker 4: it over a guy's head and the corner is his

891
00:39:36,920 --> 00:39:39,480
Speaker 4: parked right behind him. Those are the plays that you

892
00:39:39,520 --> 00:39:41,680
Speaker 4: saw in U N see that you want to see

893
00:39:41,719 --> 00:39:43,719
Speaker 4: and cut down on. And that's where the footwork comes

894
00:39:43,760 --> 00:39:45,680
Speaker 4: into it. It's more of a timing thing and a

895
00:39:45,760 --> 00:39:48,480
Speaker 4: rhythm thing than it is like his feet are jumbled

896
00:39:48,520 --> 00:39:51,520
Speaker 4: up or sloppy. So if you can get him synced up,

897
00:39:52,040 --> 00:39:54,520
Speaker 4: then when you see it all come together, feet, eyes,

898
00:39:54,560 --> 00:39:56,839
Speaker 4: throwing motion, all of it come together. He makes them

899
00:39:56,880 --> 00:39:59,200
Speaker 4: really pretty downfield throws. It just got to be a

900
00:39:59,239 --> 00:40:00,120
Speaker 4: little bit more concer.

901
00:40:00,520 --> 00:40:03,800
Speaker 8: And so right now they're doing handoff run to the

902
00:40:03,880 --> 00:40:05,960
Speaker 8: right and then roll out to the left.

903
00:40:06,200 --> 00:40:09,759
Speaker 1: This is a staple. Uh yeah, you see. I mean

904
00:40:09,880 --> 00:40:12,480
Speaker 1: even you go back to Green Bay days and you

905
00:40:12,520 --> 00:40:14,440
Speaker 1: see them doing this drill with Aaron Rodgers. I mean,

906
00:40:14,440 --> 00:40:15,279
Speaker 1: this is it.

907
00:40:15,640 --> 00:40:17,480
Speaker 4: What I love about this drill is that you have

908
00:40:17,560 --> 00:40:20,720
Speaker 4: the handoff exchange and then the coach is actually flipping

909
00:40:20,760 --> 00:40:23,120
Speaker 4: it to the quarterback and that's allowing him to make

910
00:40:23,160 --> 00:40:26,160
Speaker 4: the throw. So this is all bootleg stuff. Yeah, all

911
00:40:26,200 --> 00:40:28,640
Speaker 4: the bootlegs and all the moving pockets. So when we

912
00:40:28,680 --> 00:40:31,240
Speaker 4: talk about the offensive line, and I know everybody's concerned

913
00:40:31,280 --> 00:40:34,319
Speaker 4: about the offensive line, but especially with a quarterback like

914
00:40:34,400 --> 00:40:36,680
Speaker 4: Drake who can move as well as he can, they're

915
00:40:36,680 --> 00:40:38,640
Speaker 4: going to move the pocket a ton on first and

916
00:40:38,680 --> 00:40:40,719
Speaker 4: second down. So you're not going to get into a

917
00:40:40,800 --> 00:40:43,520
Speaker 4: lot of first down situations in this offense where the

918
00:40:43,560 --> 00:40:45,600
Speaker 4: quarterback's just going to be sitting there in the pocket

919
00:40:45,840 --> 00:40:47,960
Speaker 4: with the eleven guys coming after him. Right, you know,

920
00:40:48,000 --> 00:40:51,080
Speaker 4: it's gonna be a lot more smoking mirrors and moving

921
00:40:51,120 --> 00:40:53,319
Speaker 4: pockets like this. And he's so good at throwing on

922
00:40:53,400 --> 00:40:55,239
Speaker 4: the move, and he's so athletic that it's gonna fit

923
00:40:55,320 --> 00:40:55,839
Speaker 4: him really well.

924
00:40:56,080 --> 00:40:57,360
Speaker 1: I don't know if you guys clocked it yet, but

925
00:40:57,880 --> 00:41:01,080
Speaker 1: Julian Edelman is here. He's currently standing down to the

926
00:41:01,080 --> 00:41:04,080
Speaker 1: goal line of the left field with Matthew Slater. I

927
00:41:04,120 --> 00:41:07,759
Speaker 1: did not clock that. Yeah, he's Jewels talking talking to

928
00:41:07,800 --> 00:41:11,040
Speaker 1: Slater down there at the at the pylon at the

929
00:41:11,040 --> 00:41:14,439
Speaker 1: goal line. So a lot of guys in town for what, Yeah,

930
00:41:14,520 --> 00:41:18,479
Speaker 1: for Tom Brady Night. Yeah, production ceremony Wednesday night. Yeah,

931
00:41:18,600 --> 00:41:21,120
Speaker 1: we'll have that live on Patriots dot com. If you're

932
00:41:21,160 --> 00:41:25,320
Speaker 1: not going to be here in person, it'll actually Chad

933
00:41:25,400 --> 00:41:28,080
Speaker 1: Graft from The Athletic had a little story about you

934
00:41:28,120 --> 00:41:31,480
Speaker 1: know what to look forward to. He had it starting

935
00:41:31,480 --> 00:41:34,520
Speaker 1: at seven. It's actually going to start around five thirty

936
00:41:34,520 --> 00:41:37,719
Speaker 1: on Patriots dot com with the red carpet, So we'll

937
00:41:37,719 --> 00:41:40,480
Speaker 1: be live, you know, five five thirty whenever that starts,

938
00:41:40,480 --> 00:41:43,640
Speaker 1: all the way through until around nine thirty on Patriots

939
00:41:43,640 --> 00:41:46,480
Speaker 1: dot com, so you'll see everything. Oh yeah, so that's

940
00:41:46,480 --> 00:41:47,359
Speaker 1: gonna be pretty cool.

941
00:41:47,400 --> 00:41:50,680
Speaker 3: And and like I said, Edelman's here, and there's one hundred,

942
00:41:50,920 --> 00:41:54,120
Speaker 3: like hundreds of players that are going to be here,

943
00:41:54,280 --> 00:41:56,240
Speaker 3: plus some special guests.

944
00:41:56,239 --> 00:41:57,719
Speaker 1: So it's going to be a great night.

945
00:41:58,320 --> 00:42:02,200
Speaker 3: Uh, whether you're here a watching it, UH streaming, You're

946
00:42:02,200 --> 00:42:03,440
Speaker 3: going to really enjoy this.

947
00:42:03,719 --> 00:42:05,640
Speaker 1: So can't wait. Can't wait.

948
00:42:05,880 --> 00:42:09,439
Speaker 3: You can call our call or write in web radio

949
00:42:09,520 --> 00:42:13,000
Speaker 3: at Patriots dot com. Is the email eight five to five,

950
00:42:13,040 --> 00:42:15,920
Speaker 3: Patch five hundred is the ACE ticket hut line people

951
00:42:16,000 --> 00:42:18,960
Speaker 3: writing in already, Jared and Vermont. Do you think a

952
00:42:19,000 --> 00:42:22,239
Speaker 3: few veterans would have skipped these practices if Belichick were

953
00:42:22,280 --> 00:42:25,399
Speaker 3: still here? My feeling is yes. I wonder if having

954
00:42:25,480 --> 00:42:28,879
Speaker 3: a players coach like Mayo benefits management in the sense

955
00:42:28,880 --> 00:42:31,680
Speaker 3: that players may feel a little more obligated to do

956
00:42:32,200 --> 00:42:35,680
Speaker 3: the coach a solid and not play hardball over contracts,

957
00:42:35,719 --> 00:42:37,200
Speaker 3: at least in the early stages.

958
00:42:37,680 --> 00:42:39,640
Speaker 1: Well, I think Evan spoke to that. I mean, I

959
00:42:39,680 --> 00:42:41,400
Speaker 1: don't you know, I don't know anybody who wants to

960
00:42:41,400 --> 00:42:43,600
Speaker 1: give away money just to not comments. It's a lot

961
00:42:43,640 --> 00:42:47,200
Speaker 1: more about the hold in these days. I don't really

962
00:42:47,680 --> 00:42:50,440
Speaker 1: necessarily see guys as skipping on Bill. I mean, I

963
00:42:50,440 --> 00:42:52,640
Speaker 1: do think that there's a lot of value that this

964
00:42:52,680 --> 00:42:55,920
Speaker 1: is a new coach with the new system, and you really,

965
00:42:56,280 --> 00:42:58,200
Speaker 1: you know, you just you want to re establish the culture.

966
00:42:58,239 --> 00:43:00,759
Speaker 1: And I think they've done a great job this offseason

967
00:43:00,760 --> 00:43:04,359
Speaker 1: of identifying those players and you know, extending bar More

968
00:43:04,440 --> 00:43:07,279
Speaker 1: and Dugger and you know, really kind of re establishing

969
00:43:07,360 --> 00:43:09,560
Speaker 1: a corps. So I don't know, I don't really see

970
00:43:09,600 --> 00:43:12,319
Speaker 1: the candidates to that. We'll be like, now I'm not

971
00:43:12,360 --> 00:43:14,160
Speaker 1: showing up because these guys want to get paid. So

972
00:43:14,640 --> 00:43:16,839
Speaker 1: you know, Judon's here, I'm sure he's probably having talks

973
00:43:16,880 --> 00:43:18,960
Speaker 1: behind the scenes about, you know, wanting to get a

974
00:43:19,000 --> 00:43:21,680
Speaker 1: bunch of money, and gotschall might be asking for that too.

975
00:43:21,760 --> 00:43:23,520
Speaker 1: So the only way you can do that is you

976
00:43:23,600 --> 00:43:24,920
Speaker 1: come here without getting fined.

977
00:43:24,920 --> 00:43:27,280
Speaker 8: You know, all fairness. Even with Bill that only happened

978
00:43:27,320 --> 00:43:28,120
Speaker 8: a couple times.

979
00:43:28,200 --> 00:43:32,319
Speaker 3: Like Duce said, it's been more pulled ins where guys come,

980
00:43:32,719 --> 00:43:36,040
Speaker 3: they don't really participate, but they're here when they're looking

981
00:43:36,080 --> 00:43:37,719
Speaker 3: for a new contract.

982
00:43:37,800 --> 00:43:39,799
Speaker 1: What was the thing with Guy? Was it last year

983
00:43:39,840 --> 00:43:41,719
Speaker 1: with Guy where like but he can't he was at

984
00:43:41,760 --> 00:43:43,880
Speaker 1: these right, like he came to these But then you

985
00:43:43,880 --> 00:43:46,880
Speaker 1: know it's it's more like Judon last year where you're like,

986
00:43:46,880 --> 00:43:49,439
Speaker 1: why is he not participating? Some days you know it's

987
00:43:49,440 --> 00:43:51,480
Speaker 1: just this weird stuff that you kind of notice.

988
00:43:51,520 --> 00:43:53,920
Speaker 8: But yeah, and then as soon as he got that extension.

989
00:43:54,040 --> 00:43:57,560
Speaker 1: Oh yes, yeah, right, I feel better and now he's

990
00:43:57,560 --> 00:43:59,560
Speaker 1: in there. And plus you have to balance these things

991
00:43:59,600 --> 00:44:02,839
Speaker 1: with you know, Jude On and Gotcha being two established

992
00:44:03,040 --> 00:44:06,320
Speaker 1: veterans that you know you should probably be taking strides

993
00:44:06,360 --> 00:44:08,600
Speaker 1: at this point in the season, not to put them

994
00:44:08,600 --> 00:44:11,000
Speaker 1: in harms way. Valuable valuable guys.

995
00:44:11,280 --> 00:44:14,440
Speaker 4: Yep, there's a lot to be said for a lot

996
00:44:14,440 --> 00:44:17,640
Speaker 4: of new coaches on this staff. Even as a veteran player,

997
00:44:17,880 --> 00:44:20,920
Speaker 4: you have to find a role under this regime. It's

998
00:44:20,960 --> 00:44:23,799
Speaker 4: a totally different regime, and you have to make sure

999
00:44:23,800 --> 00:44:26,480
Speaker 4: that you have a role still on this team. As

1000
00:44:26,560 --> 00:44:29,600
Speaker 4: much as we all love Matthew Judon, there have been

1001
00:44:29,640 --> 00:44:32,959
Speaker 4: trade conversations about Matthew Judon that we've heard rumors, yeah

1002
00:44:33,360 --> 00:44:36,200
Speaker 4: that you know, maybe he could be somebody that is traded.

1003
00:44:36,239 --> 00:44:38,719
Speaker 4: So if he plays hardball, then that that could be

1004
00:44:38,719 --> 00:44:41,239
Speaker 4: a possibility that opens the door a little bit more.

1005
00:44:41,680 --> 00:44:45,000
Speaker 4: We're worlds apart on contract here. You know, we're not

1006
00:44:45,040 --> 00:44:46,880
Speaker 4: gonna we're not going to find a middle ground on

1007
00:44:46,960 --> 00:44:49,640
Speaker 4: a deal. So this is what we're gonna do with Judon.

1008
00:44:49,920 --> 00:44:51,759
Speaker 4: I don't think that there would have been any more

1009
00:44:52,280 --> 00:44:52,680
Speaker 4: hold out.

1010
00:44:52,760 --> 00:44:56,880
Speaker 8: What would you guys, do with Judon, would you.

1011
00:44:56,120 --> 00:44:59,040
Speaker 1: Know I get in two years? Yeah, I give him

1012
00:44:59,040 --> 00:45:01,000
Speaker 1: a bump this year, stend him in the next year.

1013
00:45:01,040 --> 00:45:03,120
Speaker 1: I have a two year deal and give myself at

1014
00:45:03,200 --> 00:45:06,160
Speaker 1: least the chance this offseason to really try to, you know,

1015
00:45:06,400 --> 00:45:09,520
Speaker 1: fill that void that he's going to inevitably, you know,

1016
00:45:09,560 --> 00:45:12,640
Speaker 1: get I mean, it's an important, important position. You know,

1017
00:45:12,800 --> 00:45:15,040
Speaker 1: I really do like Anthony Jennings, but I think he's

1018
00:45:15,320 --> 00:45:17,080
Speaker 1: you know, him and Uce are are part of a

1019
00:45:17,160 --> 00:45:19,560
Speaker 1: mosaic that you have to put together along the edge.

1020
00:45:19,760 --> 00:45:22,239
Speaker 1: It's not like Judah, where's He's a guy that you

1021
00:45:22,280 --> 00:45:24,480
Speaker 1: can play three downs and you don't really have much

1022
00:45:24,480 --> 00:45:27,840
Speaker 1: concerns about him so long term position.

1023
00:45:27,680 --> 00:45:30,960
Speaker 4: You worry a lot about their competitiveness as a team overall.

1024
00:45:31,360 --> 00:45:33,799
Speaker 4: If you take the Janga piece, that's Matthew Judon out

1025
00:45:33,800 --> 00:45:36,120
Speaker 4: of the puzzle, and I understand that we're not necessarily

1026
00:45:36,160 --> 00:45:38,359
Speaker 4: talking about them winning the Super Bowl or anything like that,

1027
00:45:38,719 --> 00:45:41,319
Speaker 4: but just having a team week in and week out

1028
00:45:41,600 --> 00:45:44,360
Speaker 4: that has something to play for it is maybe a

1029
00:45:44,400 --> 00:45:46,719
Speaker 4: starting point for this team right now. And if you

1030
00:45:46,760 --> 00:45:49,799
Speaker 4: take Judon out of that pass rush, I just don't

1031
00:45:49,840 --> 00:45:52,000
Speaker 4: know where you go from there. In terms of secondary

1032
00:45:52,040 --> 00:45:54,920
Speaker 4: pass rush outside of Christian Barmore, it's just going to

1033
00:45:54,960 --> 00:45:56,880
Speaker 4: be really tough. So I think they almost owe it

1034
00:45:56,880 --> 00:45:59,600
Speaker 4: to themselves and owe it to the team to keep

1035
00:45:59,640 --> 00:46:02,399
Speaker 4: jude On around at least till the trade deadline. If

1036
00:46:02,400 --> 00:46:04,520
Speaker 4: it's if they're one and eight at the trade deadline

1037
00:46:04,600 --> 00:46:07,239
Speaker 4: or something like that and some contender is offering you

1038
00:46:07,280 --> 00:46:10,160
Speaker 4: something for Judon and you haven't reached that extension, then

1039
00:46:10,160 --> 00:46:10,960
Speaker 4: maybe that's when you.

1040
00:46:11,000 --> 00:46:12,640
Speaker 7: Entertained that I was gonna agree with.

1041
00:46:12,719 --> 00:46:14,440
Speaker 6: I'm like, we saw what happened when judonk got hurt

1042
00:46:14,520 --> 00:46:17,080
Speaker 6: last year and how it kind of inflated the defense,

1043
00:46:17,360 --> 00:46:19,439
Speaker 6: like on the field and also in the locker room.

1044
00:46:19,760 --> 00:46:23,120
Speaker 6: And then also you didn't draft anybody to develop under

1045
00:46:23,239 --> 00:46:25,320
Speaker 6: behind him either, So now it's like you have to

1046
00:46:25,400 --> 00:46:27,279
Speaker 6: keep him for at least another year or two.

1047
00:46:27,320 --> 00:46:29,440
Speaker 7: So hopefully you can drop someone next year, yeah, and

1048
00:46:29,480 --> 00:46:31,319
Speaker 7: have them develop and then grow into someone.

1049
00:46:32,160 --> 00:46:35,040
Speaker 3: The last thing you hate is to see the defense,

1050
00:46:35,760 --> 00:46:38,600
Speaker 3: you know, regress. We want to at least keep it

1051
00:46:38,640 --> 00:46:40,640
Speaker 3: at the level it was last year. Now I get

1052
00:46:40,840 --> 00:46:43,600
Speaker 3: this is a tougher schedule this year, so you may

1053
00:46:43,600 --> 00:46:46,359
Speaker 3: not get the point results that you had last year

1054
00:46:46,400 --> 00:46:48,200
Speaker 3: where you were giving up yeah, you know, seven to

1055
00:46:48,200 --> 00:46:51,239
Speaker 3: ten points. But you know, from a just performance, you

1056
00:46:51,280 --> 00:46:54,359
Speaker 3: want to try to say, okay, defense is fine, let's

1057
00:46:54,400 --> 00:46:57,040
Speaker 3: focus on the offense and you take june On out

1058
00:46:57,040 --> 00:46:59,520
Speaker 3: of that mix, like like Eman said that Jenga piece

1059
00:46:59,560 --> 00:47:01,400
Speaker 3: and you know who knows what can happen well.

1060
00:47:01,400 --> 00:47:03,360
Speaker 1: And also I mean I'll set it with an offense

1061
00:47:03,400 --> 00:47:05,600
Speaker 1: that can actually move the ball a little bit, you know,

1062
00:47:05,640 --> 00:47:07,560
Speaker 1: I mean, just go from the worst offense in the

1063
00:47:07,600 --> 00:47:10,279
Speaker 1: league that you know, isn't picking up first downs, is

1064
00:47:10,280 --> 00:47:13,200
Speaker 1: putting the defense in arms way, isn't scoring points the

1065
00:47:13,239 --> 00:47:15,239
Speaker 1: defense is like, man, we got to score ourselves if

1066
00:47:15,239 --> 00:47:17,120
Speaker 1: we're going to win. So I think as much as

1067
00:47:17,280 --> 00:47:20,160
Speaker 1: you know the difficulty might increase with a tougher schedule,

1068
00:47:20,440 --> 00:47:22,560
Speaker 1: you know, with a complimentary offense, it can help a

1069
00:47:22,600 --> 00:47:25,400
Speaker 1: lot of things. But you know, I think there's certainly

1070
00:47:26,360 --> 00:47:28,880
Speaker 1: points to make on the defense of you know, turnover

1071
00:47:29,000 --> 00:47:31,439
Speaker 1: kind of drop off. We talk about teams to force

1072
00:47:31,480 --> 00:47:33,279
Speaker 1: a lot of fumbles being real tough. They weren't one

1073
00:47:33,280 --> 00:47:35,719
Speaker 1: of those teams last year. And I say that as

1074
00:47:35,760 --> 00:47:39,160
Speaker 1: a Jabrill Pepper super fan. But you know one name

1075
00:47:39,200 --> 00:47:42,080
Speaker 1: I would just throw out is is O'Shane him Andez,

1076
00:47:42,120 --> 00:47:46,279
Speaker 1: who you know, isn't experienced NFL guy. I think he

1077
00:47:46,320 --> 00:47:48,520
Speaker 1: had six and a half sacks as a rookie with

1078
00:47:48,640 --> 00:47:50,920
Speaker 1: the Giants. He's kind of fought some injuries, he's been

1079
00:47:50,960 --> 00:47:53,600
Speaker 1: a bit player. He's been more of a designated pass

1080
00:47:53,640 --> 00:47:56,799
Speaker 1: rusher kind of guy with the Giants. But he's kind

1081
00:47:56,800 --> 00:47:59,560
Speaker 1: of to me that fourth guy after the Big three.

1082
00:48:00,000 --> 00:48:01,759
Speaker 1: Does he have anything to offer? I mean six four

1083
00:48:01,840 --> 00:48:03,560
Speaker 1: two fifty good size. I mean that's you know, what

1084
00:48:03,560 --> 00:48:05,360
Speaker 1: they usually look for in one of those edge guys.

1085
00:48:05,800 --> 00:48:08,360
Speaker 1: Without Jude on here, you haven't seen uche. Even Jennings

1086
00:48:08,360 --> 00:48:10,600
Speaker 1: missed a couple of practices, you saw a lot of

1087
00:48:10,880 --> 00:48:14,239
Speaker 1: him and as getting some opportunities. So he's just a

1088
00:48:14,280 --> 00:48:15,600
Speaker 1: guy I would. I would definitely I'm going to be

1089
00:48:15,680 --> 00:48:17,560
Speaker 1: keeping an eye on here as we get into the

1090
00:48:17,560 --> 00:48:19,640
Speaker 1: summer to see if he has any kind of you know,

1091
00:48:19,800 --> 00:48:22,399
Speaker 1: pass rush juice. Even if he's just like he's going

1092
00:48:22,480 --> 00:48:24,319
Speaker 1: right now watching him do a rep right now, even

1093
00:48:24,360 --> 00:48:26,319
Speaker 1: if he's just like an oucha and and he's only

1094
00:48:26,360 --> 00:48:28,000
Speaker 1: going to be a one trick pony, I think that's

1095
00:48:28,160 --> 00:48:29,480
Speaker 1: a trick that they need more of.

1096
00:48:30,040 --> 00:48:32,799
Speaker 8: Carrie writes in I must know where to Deuce get

1097
00:48:32,840 --> 00:48:34,399
Speaker 8: the Patriots sunglasses from?

1098
00:48:34,400 --> 00:48:36,600
Speaker 1: And where can we get the Patriots pro shop? I

1099
00:48:36,600 --> 00:48:40,359
Speaker 1: believe they are eight dollars because I lose sunglasses every

1100
00:48:40,480 --> 00:48:42,719
Speaker 1: other day, so I don't invest in. I just get

1101
00:48:42,760 --> 00:48:45,839
Speaker 1: cheap o's wherever I can. But we were saying maybe

1102
00:48:45,880 --> 00:48:48,560
Speaker 1: we should get some pit vipers for the Content squad

1103
00:48:48,560 --> 00:48:50,160
Speaker 1: and training camp this year, you know, like if we

1104
00:48:50,239 --> 00:48:54,640
Speaker 1: all had matching that you mean hard O glass, Parto glass, Yes, no,

1105
00:48:54,719 --> 00:48:58,279
Speaker 1: hard O heart O Content team glasses. Are they sponsors?

1106
00:48:58,480 --> 00:49:00,239
Speaker 1: Are they? I don't think so? But we can talk

1107
00:49:00,320 --> 00:49:00,840
Speaker 1: to him.

1108
00:49:00,840 --> 00:49:03,040
Speaker 7: We should get some coach Prime some glasses, you know,

1109
00:49:03,080 --> 00:49:03,880
Speaker 7: the ones that he wears.

1110
00:49:04,080 --> 00:49:05,719
Speaker 1: Okay, I like that we should be wearing.

1111
00:49:05,760 --> 00:49:10,840
Speaker 8: Are they be dazzled now they're dazzled?

1112
00:49:10,840 --> 00:49:11,120
Speaker 3: They're not?

1113
00:49:11,600 --> 00:49:14,560
Speaker 1: Do you like some be dazzled stuff? Uh?

1114
00:49:14,920 --> 00:49:15,399
Speaker 9: You know what.

1115
00:49:17,920 --> 00:49:18,960
Speaker 1: Do you or? Do you not?

1116
00:49:21,400 --> 00:49:24,520
Speaker 3: Easy to drink, easy to enjoy. Bud Light, the official

1117
00:49:24,520 --> 00:49:28,239
Speaker 3: beer sponsor of the New Eland Patriots. When you're bedazzling,

1118
00:49:28,280 --> 00:49:29,399
Speaker 3: you can have your bud Light.

1119
00:49:31,280 --> 00:49:32,040
Speaker 8: What do we got going?

1120
00:49:32,239 --> 00:49:35,360
Speaker 1: Comes to the owner, oh the st r KK taking

1121
00:49:35,360 --> 00:49:37,839
Speaker 1: a trip out to r KK coming out to the

1122
00:49:37,840 --> 00:49:41,000
Speaker 1: field the boys, as I call him, Big Boss Man,

1123
00:49:41,080 --> 00:49:45,040
Speaker 1: big boss man. Fred is boss Man. He's big boss Yeah,

1124
00:49:45,160 --> 00:49:48,120
Speaker 1: he's lower lower like the final boss Man. I'm a

1125
00:49:48,120 --> 00:49:53,799
Speaker 1: little little boss man, little baby boss ah man.

1126
00:49:54,320 --> 00:49:56,279
Speaker 8: So yeah, did anybody ask your rod about the refs.

1127
00:49:56,280 --> 00:49:57,120
Speaker 1: I don't know if they come out.

1128
00:49:57,200 --> 00:49:59,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, the refs are. The refs are here, the

1129
00:49:59,760 --> 00:50:02,120
Speaker 4: reft here in town. And he said that he doesn't

1130
00:50:02,160 --> 00:50:04,680
Speaker 4: want them to be afraid to throw flags. You want

1131
00:50:04,719 --> 00:50:08,040
Speaker 4: them to be involved in practice. So we'll see some

1132
00:50:08,080 --> 00:50:10,680
Speaker 4: of that. We see a chain gang. Don't know how

1133
00:50:10,760 --> 00:50:12,520
Speaker 4: much longer we're going to be able to say that, right,

1134
00:50:12,560 --> 00:50:14,640
Speaker 4: So for the time being, we have a chain game.

1135
00:50:15,280 --> 00:50:20,200
Speaker 1: Now. Yeah, I like the lasers. I like that you

1136
00:50:20,280 --> 00:50:23,839
Speaker 1: like a laser. I love it because it drives me nuts.

1137
00:50:23,880 --> 00:50:25,440
Speaker 1: Micro chips the amount of times.

1138
00:50:25,239 --> 00:50:28,479
Speaker 4: I see the ball spotted it correctly, and those inches matter,

1139
00:50:28,719 --> 00:50:31,200
Speaker 4: they do matter. When all of a sudden they put

1140
00:50:31,200 --> 00:50:33,280
Speaker 4: the ball down and they know the first down marker

1141
00:50:33,360 --> 00:50:34,759
Speaker 4: is like a foot ahead, and all you just see

1142
00:50:34,760 --> 00:50:36,439
Speaker 4: the raptors pick the ball up and move it over

1143
00:50:36,520 --> 00:50:37,080
Speaker 4: the first.

1144
00:50:36,880 --> 00:50:39,400
Speaker 1: Down mark What are we doing killing us?

1145
00:50:39,800 --> 00:50:44,000
Speaker 8: The first player that Robert Kraft greeted was Christian Gonzales.

1146
00:50:44,280 --> 00:50:46,120
Speaker 8: There you go, goold pick could pick. It's a good

1147
00:50:46,120 --> 00:50:50,359
Speaker 8: one who again looked like he's picked right up where

1148
00:50:50,360 --> 00:50:51,040
Speaker 8: he left off.

1149
00:50:51,920 --> 00:50:56,160
Speaker 1: Ah. Now, I'm not sure where where them guys are

1150
00:50:56,239 --> 00:50:58,880
Speaker 1: right now? Where where zero and thirty one are the

1151
00:50:58,960 --> 00:51:03,120
Speaker 1: right right fun of us? He's got a red Oh yes,

1152
00:51:03,400 --> 00:51:04,040
Speaker 1: a red calf.

1153
00:51:04,760 --> 00:51:07,839
Speaker 7: That's it's a they're actually right next to each other.

1154
00:51:08,719 --> 00:51:13,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, we haven't seen granted, the Patriots haven't necessarily had

1155
00:51:13,600 --> 00:51:15,840
Speaker 4: the blue trip talent of a Christian zales In a

1156
00:51:15,840 --> 00:51:18,080
Speaker 4: little bit, but just the way that he moves on

1157
00:51:18,120 --> 00:51:21,279
Speaker 4: the practice field is so different and everybody else, and

1158
00:51:21,480 --> 00:51:23,880
Speaker 4: it's always really fun to watch even him go through position.

1159
00:51:24,040 --> 00:51:25,799
Speaker 1: I know, even when he's like playing offense, like when

1160
00:51:25,840 --> 00:51:27,680
Speaker 1: they do draw together and he just has to give

1161
00:51:27,760 --> 00:51:29,680
Speaker 1: like a look. It's like, man, that guy, he looks

1162
00:51:29,680 --> 00:51:30,720
Speaker 1: smooth doing anything.

1163
00:51:30,760 --> 00:51:34,000
Speaker 4: They were doing a red zone like goal one fade

1164
00:51:34,040 --> 00:51:36,880
Speaker 4: drill and he one handed catched one in the corner

1165
00:51:36,880 --> 00:51:38,919
Speaker 4: of the end zone and I was just like, maybe

1166
00:51:38,920 --> 00:51:39,800
Speaker 4: you can play receiver.

1167
00:51:40,160 --> 00:51:44,680
Speaker 1: I don't know. Yeah, he's yeah, but he's incredible. But

1168
00:51:44,880 --> 00:51:47,680
Speaker 1: you know, it's we've seen throughout the spring. I mean,

1169
00:51:47,719 --> 00:51:50,920
Speaker 1: in granted it's a rookie ota in three veteran OTAs.

1170
00:51:51,000 --> 00:51:54,160
Speaker 1: But you see some of these where Alex Austin and

1171
00:51:54,200 --> 00:51:56,400
Speaker 1: Marco Wilson kind of get the top reps. Not to

1172
00:51:56,440 --> 00:51:59,440
Speaker 1: say that that's what's happening right now necessarily, but it

1173
00:51:59,600 --> 00:52:01,319
Speaker 1: just does seem like they want to get a long

1174
00:52:01,360 --> 00:52:02,720
Speaker 1: look at these guys as.

1175
00:52:02,600 --> 00:52:07,000
Speaker 4: I'm excited about alex OUs same as Rodgers put it perfectly,

1176
00:52:07,080 --> 00:52:09,400
Speaker 4: he's an NFL player. Now we have to see what

1177
00:52:09,560 --> 00:52:11,640
Speaker 4: the ceiling is and that's what we'll get into this year.

1178
00:52:11,680 --> 00:52:13,719
Speaker 4: But his tape at the end of last year was

1179
00:52:13,760 --> 00:52:16,080
Speaker 4: really solid. I think he's had a really good spring,

1180
00:52:16,160 --> 00:52:19,160
Speaker 4: and we've talked so much about the nickel spot. No,

1181
00:52:19,320 --> 00:52:22,440
Speaker 4: Miles Bryant, Now, can you move Jonathan Jones back to

1182
00:52:22,480 --> 00:52:24,799
Speaker 4: his natural position playing on the inside.

1183
00:52:24,960 --> 00:52:26,320
Speaker 1: That also might allow him.

1184
00:52:26,160 --> 00:52:28,759
Speaker 4: To quarterback the defense a little bit more too, maybe

1185
00:52:28,840 --> 00:52:31,960
Speaker 4: play some safety by rotating back there. And you have

1186
00:52:32,040 --> 00:52:35,359
Speaker 4: Alex Austin and Christian Gonzalez to size speed guys on

1187
00:52:35,400 --> 00:52:38,600
Speaker 4: the outside that can go up against bigger receivers, different

1188
00:52:38,640 --> 00:52:41,319
Speaker 4: body types. I'm intrigued by it. We'll see if he

1189
00:52:41,360 --> 00:52:43,799
Speaker 4: can build on it. But he's been solid so far.

1190
00:52:44,080 --> 00:52:46,719
Speaker 6: I like his attitude a lot off the field. I

1191
00:52:46,719 --> 00:52:48,839
Speaker 6: feel like he's a great person and he also I

1192
00:52:49,000 --> 00:52:50,960
Speaker 6: feel like he listens a lot and he leans on

1193
00:52:51,000 --> 00:52:54,400
Speaker 6: his veterans around him, and also Willie McGinnis obviously, and

1194
00:52:54,480 --> 00:52:55,879
Speaker 6: she's really soaking and everything he can.

1195
00:52:57,040 --> 00:52:59,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, him and Jalen Hawkins are the two guys, if

1196
00:53:00,120 --> 00:53:03,400
Speaker 4: looking defensively, who might have roles that we get in

1197
00:53:03,560 --> 00:53:08,359
Speaker 4: envision necessarily having huge roles coming into the season. Hawkins

1198
00:53:08,719 --> 00:53:11,120
Speaker 4: has played something in the league in other spots, so

1199
00:53:11,160 --> 00:53:14,719
Speaker 4: it's not like he's a complete afterthought or cast off

1200
00:53:14,800 --> 00:53:16,680
Speaker 4: or something like that. You know, he has NFL starts

1201
00:53:16,719 --> 00:53:19,920
Speaker 4: under his belt and passed in, so he could be

1202
00:53:19,960 --> 00:53:22,520
Speaker 4: somebody that could factor into the deep safety conversation that

1203
00:53:22,640 --> 00:53:23,200
Speaker 4: free safety.

1204
00:53:23,320 --> 00:53:25,399
Speaker 1: Definitely a special teams guy too. When you talk about

1205
00:53:25,880 --> 00:53:28,319
Speaker 1: Cody Davis ain't here anymore, Like, yeah, you know, that's

1206
00:53:28,360 --> 00:53:31,000
Speaker 1: the kind of guy that could maybe speak on But

1207
00:53:31,120 --> 00:53:34,200
Speaker 1: girod working here down with the defense right now, it

1208
00:53:34,280 --> 00:53:38,280
Speaker 1: seems like a kind of working on sorting out route

1209
00:53:38,600 --> 00:53:39,560
Speaker 1: distribution here.

1210
00:53:39,719 --> 00:53:41,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, I've noticed him do this a little bit more

1211
00:53:41,480 --> 00:53:44,799
Speaker 4: in recent practices. First couple of practices we saw him

1212
00:53:44,840 --> 00:53:49,040
Speaker 4: out here floating around and bouncing around from station to station,

1213
00:53:49,239 --> 00:53:52,560
Speaker 4: and then maybe the last two I would say he's

1214
00:53:52,560 --> 00:53:56,320
Speaker 4: been pretty much focused on being in the defensive huddle,

1215
00:53:56,360 --> 00:53:58,239
Speaker 4: which I feel like is where he's going to find

1216
00:53:58,280 --> 00:53:59,920
Speaker 4: his home at the end of the day. I think

1217
00:54:00,040 --> 00:54:02,759
Speaker 4: he's still trying to figure out where he belongs at

1218
00:54:02,800 --> 00:54:06,359
Speaker 4: times on the field and let let avp and then

1219
00:54:06,400 --> 00:54:09,480
Speaker 4: those guys do the offense and stick with your breading

1220
00:54:09,480 --> 00:54:10,400
Speaker 4: butter on defense.

1221
00:54:12,400 --> 00:54:16,279
Speaker 3: Brian Belichick down there, I don't know, I'm kind of

1222
00:54:16,280 --> 00:54:17,839
Speaker 3: a body language guy.

1223
00:54:18,280 --> 00:54:21,120
Speaker 8: I'm sensing more confidence from him as a coach. Yeah,

1224
00:54:21,160 --> 00:54:23,040
Speaker 8: you know what I mean, Like he's like kind of

1225
00:54:23,080 --> 00:54:24,080
Speaker 8: coming into his own.

1226
00:54:24,840 --> 00:54:28,719
Speaker 3: You know, Dad's not here anymore, but he's got this

1227
00:54:28,920 --> 00:54:31,560
Speaker 3: job on his own, and I think he's kind of

1228
00:54:31,560 --> 00:54:32,279
Speaker 3: embracing it.

1229
00:54:32,560 --> 00:54:34,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, we got you know, they were working in the

1230
00:54:34,920 --> 00:54:37,000
Speaker 1: same spot last week when we were down close and

1231
00:54:37,040 --> 00:54:39,719
Speaker 1: you could really just you know, hear him speaking to

1232
00:54:39,760 --> 00:54:42,000
Speaker 1: his guys, and I agree with you, Fred, I mean,

1233
00:54:42,000 --> 00:54:44,040
Speaker 1: he's you know, I mean, he's been around this stuff

1234
00:54:44,040 --> 00:54:46,680
Speaker 1: for so long, and I remember, you guys have all

1235
00:54:46,800 --> 00:54:49,680
Speaker 1: videos from probably two thousand and eight, two thousand and

1236
00:54:49,760 --> 00:54:53,080
Speaker 1: nine of Bill with young Brian on the sidelines. I mean,

1237
00:54:53,120 --> 00:54:55,640
Speaker 1: he's been in the thick of this for you know,

1238
00:54:55,719 --> 00:54:58,560
Speaker 1: as long as anybody, so he should be confident, and

1239
00:54:59,000 --> 00:55:01,040
Speaker 1: you know, just an opportunity for him to continue to

1240
00:55:01,080 --> 00:55:03,200
Speaker 1: grow without you know, his dad and his brother around.

1241
00:55:03,280 --> 00:55:05,719
Speaker 1: And I just love the fact there's still a Belichick here.

1242
00:55:05,719 --> 00:55:07,759
Speaker 1: I think that that's you know, just great, there's at

1243
00:55:07,840 --> 00:55:10,600
Speaker 1: least one holdover that we can continue that legacy here.

1244
00:55:10,800 --> 00:55:13,520
Speaker 1: Definitely more vocal than when I've seen him in the past,

1245
00:55:13,560 --> 00:55:17,120
Speaker 1: and certainly with not just the safeties though, with the

1246
00:55:17,239 --> 00:55:20,239
Speaker 1: entire secondary and I undiced that last week to do

1247
00:55:20,400 --> 00:55:23,360
Speaker 1: so we were sitting down there. You can hear him.

1248
00:55:22,960 --> 00:55:26,000
Speaker 4: Talking and coaching, and I don't know necessarily if I've

1249
00:55:26,000 --> 00:55:28,719
Speaker 4: heard that before right out of him kind of taking

1250
00:55:28,719 --> 00:55:30,320
Speaker 4: a backseat to his brother, his dad.

1251
00:55:31,440 --> 00:55:33,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's been more involved. That's that's kind of what

1252
00:55:33,680 --> 00:55:36,480
Speaker 1: I mean. I'm it's great. I like it.

1253
00:55:37,840 --> 00:55:43,200
Speaker 8: Looking over to our right, quarterbacks are working with wide receivers.

1254
00:55:43,480 --> 00:55:46,560
Speaker 1: Yeah. Another another kind of staple here of of OTAs

1255
00:55:46,560 --> 00:55:48,399
Speaker 1: have been you know, kind of two quarterbacks at once.

1256
00:55:49,239 --> 00:55:52,239
Speaker 1: They'll switch sides, throwing each each side, and I mean

1257
00:55:52,239 --> 00:55:54,200
Speaker 1: it's it's a fun drill just to kind of compare

1258
00:55:54,239 --> 00:55:58,040
Speaker 1: wide receivers to each other, to have a move. You know,

1259
00:55:58,080 --> 00:55:59,560
Speaker 1: you get a little bit of a sample there with

1260
00:56:00,080 --> 00:56:05,560
Speaker 1: kJ Osmore and Taekwon Thornton. But you know, yeah, so

1261
00:56:05,640 --> 00:56:07,640
Speaker 1: you know it's you know, you watch Juju kind of

1262
00:56:07,680 --> 00:56:11,200
Speaker 1: round one off there. Yeah, but you know, I want

1263
00:56:11,239 --> 00:56:13,280
Speaker 1: to see Baker. I think these are the kind of drills.

1264
00:56:13,280 --> 00:56:15,719
Speaker 1: Where is he still up here? I don't know if

1265
00:56:15,719 --> 00:56:22,520
Speaker 1: he is. I thank god I don't see him anymore.

1266
00:56:22,680 --> 00:56:30,640
Speaker 8: Yeah, here goes Jalen Zappie and May we'll run into

1267
00:56:30,640 --> 00:56:31,239
Speaker 8: each other, guys.

1268
00:56:31,320 --> 00:56:35,560
Speaker 1: I know they're mirroring each other, but I did see

1269
00:56:36,080 --> 00:56:38,440
Speaker 1: and Dug Kide reported this number sixteen as a is

1270
00:56:38,480 --> 00:56:42,080
Speaker 1: a tryout player here today. You know, they continue to

1271
00:56:42,120 --> 00:56:46,000
Speaker 1: kind of churn the roster at wide receiver with undrafted rookies.

1272
00:56:46,040 --> 00:56:48,839
Speaker 1: I mean, they just brought in Jaquae Jackson. They brought

1273
00:56:48,880 --> 00:56:51,800
Speaker 1: in David Wallace last week, who was a slot receiver

1274
00:56:51,840 --> 00:56:53,640
Speaker 1: at rookie mini camp who I thought was kind of quick,

1275
00:56:54,520 --> 00:56:57,839
Speaker 1: but just interesting. They continue to kind of churn those

1276
00:56:57,840 --> 00:56:59,960
Speaker 1: guys and watching Wallace right now. He does he's got

1277
00:57:00,080 --> 00:57:02,640
Speaker 1: that he's got that juke move pretty good. He's he's

1278
00:57:02,640 --> 00:57:05,319
Speaker 1: got some quick feet. But it just seems like they

1279
00:57:05,360 --> 00:57:07,279
Speaker 1: continue to try to turn the bottom of the roster

1280
00:57:07,440 --> 00:57:10,360
Speaker 1: looking for anybody at that wide receiver position that you know,

1281
00:57:10,520 --> 00:57:13,440
Speaker 1: might have some kind of potential. Even though they drafted

1282
00:57:13,480 --> 00:57:16,040
Speaker 1: guys and sign guys and you know, have some veteran

1283
00:57:16,080 --> 00:57:19,000
Speaker 1: holdovers that might be on the bubble, they are taking

1284
00:57:19,000 --> 00:57:20,320
Speaker 1: a look at a lot of guys, you know, and

1285
00:57:20,360 --> 00:57:22,000
Speaker 1: that's no different from any other years.

1286
00:57:22,640 --> 00:57:24,480
Speaker 3: You know, there's a lot of movement in the bottom

1287
00:57:24,560 --> 00:57:28,680
Speaker 3: of that roster. Right through training camp. You'll see guys

1288
00:57:28,680 --> 00:57:30,800
Speaker 3: come and go. It's not a big deal.

1289
00:57:31,480 --> 00:57:34,560
Speaker 8: Uh, it's you know, it's no indication that oh things

1290
00:57:34,600 --> 00:57:35,080
Speaker 8: aren't right.

1291
00:57:35,160 --> 00:57:40,880
Speaker 1: No, you do this every year. Every year this happens. Yeah,

1292
00:57:41,280 --> 00:57:44,560
Speaker 1: there's disappointed that something's going on with Javon Baker. Physically.

1293
00:57:45,000 --> 00:57:48,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, he's not been he's been limited the last two sessions,

1294
00:57:48,440 --> 00:57:51,760
Speaker 4: so that is obviously the mental rep.

1295
00:57:51,600 --> 00:57:52,680
Speaker 1: Is the most important part.

1296
00:57:52,760 --> 00:57:54,800
Speaker 4: And yeah, it's not good for him, but it's also

1297
00:57:54,840 --> 00:57:56,160
Speaker 4: you know, it's fun for us to work.

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00:57:56,200 --> 00:57:58,880
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, well, he's just got he's got some live

1299
00:57:58,920 --> 00:58:01,360
Speaker 1: wire legs that just you know, you didn't see that

1300
00:58:01,440 --> 00:58:04,240
Speaker 1: he's got some juice to him. Then I'm not ready

1301
00:58:04,280 --> 00:58:05,920
Speaker 1: to say that none of the other guys have it,

1302
00:58:06,280 --> 00:58:08,600
Speaker 1: but it's it's I'm not too far from saying that

1303
00:58:09,280 --> 00:58:09,640
Speaker 1: I like.

1304
00:58:09,880 --> 00:58:11,320
Speaker 7: I like his confidence too.

1305
00:58:11,520 --> 00:58:14,080
Speaker 6: Like when you have a guy like that who can

1306
00:58:14,600 --> 00:58:18,480
Speaker 6: what his actions meant met his words, it's really funny.

1307
00:58:18,520 --> 00:58:20,479
Speaker 1: Funny to me. It's like, you know, and I said

1308
00:58:20,480 --> 00:58:23,720
Speaker 1: it when I spoke to uh, you know, his his

1309
00:58:23,720 --> 00:58:26,560
Speaker 1: his coach, and he said, man, he's quiet. And nobody

1310
00:58:26,600 --> 00:58:29,640
Speaker 1: had him being quiet on their bingo card after his

1311
00:58:29,680 --> 00:58:32,480
Speaker 1: post draft press conference. But that's been the impression of

1312
00:58:32,480 --> 00:58:34,040
Speaker 1: the building too, that he's, you know, kind of just

1313
00:58:34,080 --> 00:58:35,360
Speaker 1: a quiet, soft spoken kid.

1314
00:58:35,880 --> 00:58:36,040
Speaker 6: Uh.

1315
00:58:36,120 --> 00:58:38,520
Speaker 1: Maybe he got you know, taken aback and thrown into

1316
00:58:38,560 --> 00:58:40,520
Speaker 1: a media call right after being selected in his car,

1317
00:58:40,600 --> 00:58:44,240
Speaker 1: but you know, I know that that he's so far

1318
00:58:44,280 --> 00:58:48,960
Speaker 1: it's who's eighty two? That's ah, yeah, Dutch Jaqui Jackson,

1319
00:58:49,000 --> 00:58:51,840
Speaker 1: the new guy. He dropped the push ups. Yeah, he's

1320
00:58:51,880 --> 00:58:55,720
Speaker 1: a uh, he's a he's a Ruckers Ruckers, a Ruckers rookie.

1321
00:58:57,600 --> 00:58:57,800
Speaker 8: Yeah.

1322
00:58:57,920 --> 00:59:00,320
Speaker 1: Guy got some sigh too.

1323
00:59:00,880 --> 00:59:03,160
Speaker 4: So that was one thing I thought was interesting about

1324
00:59:03,160 --> 00:59:05,360
Speaker 4: that signing was and we've talked so much about who's

1325
00:59:05,360 --> 00:59:07,280
Speaker 4: going to play on the outside in this offense, and

1326
00:59:07,680 --> 00:59:10,360
Speaker 4: they will run a lot of condensed formations, so it's

1327
00:59:10,360 --> 00:59:12,840
Speaker 4: not necessarily like they're going to have a true outside

1328
00:59:13,080 --> 00:59:15,760
Speaker 4: X on every single play, but guys that have a

1329
00:59:15,760 --> 00:59:17,280
Speaker 4: little bit more size to them. They don't have a

1330
00:59:17,280 --> 00:59:18,960
Speaker 4: ton of those guys that are projected to make the

1331
00:59:19,000 --> 00:59:19,640
Speaker 4: team right now.

1332
00:59:19,760 --> 00:59:22,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, so it's Doug Kyde reported the number sixteen is

1333
00:59:22,640 --> 00:59:27,600
Speaker 1: rookie Rory Starkey Samford. He was here at Minigana to

1334
00:59:27,640 --> 00:59:32,680
Speaker 1: get comes back. Any relation to Richard Starkey, I don't know,

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Speaker 1: aka Ringo, star.

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Speaker 3: of the New England Patriots. Well, you can see that

1347
01:00:11,480 --> 01:00:13,919
Speaker 3: you're looking at us now. So we had to turn

1348
01:00:13,960 --> 01:00:18,160
Speaker 3: away from the football field for period six. Sorry, how

1349
01:00:18,160 --> 01:00:19,240
Speaker 3: many periods do we have?

1350
01:00:20,080 --> 01:00:26,120
Speaker 1: Oh? Many many period You're gonna get to some team

1351
01:00:26,160 --> 01:00:26,840
Speaker 1: drills now though it.

1352
01:00:27,120 --> 01:00:30,200
Speaker 8: Yeah, so we'll as best we can describe what we're

1353
01:00:30,240 --> 01:00:33,520
Speaker 8: watching without giving away any state secrets.

1354
01:00:33,640 --> 01:00:36,400
Speaker 4: I know we can't. The cameras are off now. But

1355
01:00:36,760 --> 01:00:39,600
Speaker 4: this other camera that they have here is also something

1356
01:00:39,640 --> 01:00:42,680
Speaker 4: new that I've noticed. It's a long camera, almost like

1357
01:00:42,720 --> 01:00:44,960
Speaker 4: a GoPro on a pole. Yeah, there's a coach that's

1358
01:00:44,960 --> 01:00:48,400
Speaker 4: standing right behind the offensive line of scrimmage that's getting

1359
01:00:48,400 --> 01:00:51,360
Speaker 4: the end zone angle, but like really close up, and

1360
01:00:51,400 --> 01:00:53,320
Speaker 4: I have to think that that's like a quarterback thing

1361
01:00:53,360 --> 01:00:55,480
Speaker 4: that They then go back into the film room after

1362
01:00:55,560 --> 01:00:58,400
Speaker 4: practice and start comparing this drop to that drop to

1363
01:00:58,440 --> 01:01:01,440
Speaker 4: that drop and probably show you you Aaron Rodgers doing

1364
01:01:01,480 --> 01:01:03,360
Speaker 4: it the right way, and then you're doing it the wrong.

1365
01:01:04,120 --> 01:01:06,280
Speaker 3: I can tell you, though, that guy who's manning that

1366
01:01:06,360 --> 01:01:09,840
Speaker 3: camera is getting the best workout of anyone out there.

1367
01:01:10,520 --> 01:01:13,080
Speaker 8: He has to hustle to get into position.

1368
01:01:13,440 --> 01:01:17,320
Speaker 3: Uh you know, when they change up, he's he's you

1369
01:01:17,400 --> 01:01:19,040
Speaker 3: got to be in shape to have that job, I

1370
01:01:19,040 --> 01:01:19,520
Speaker 3: can tell you.

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01:01:20,480 --> 01:01:22,800
Speaker 1: So right now we've got for set under center. Yeah,

1372
01:01:22,960 --> 01:01:25,040
Speaker 1: set under center, and it looks like, you know, mostly

1373
01:01:25,480 --> 01:01:28,320
Speaker 1: top end guys. Do you see Marco Wilson out there,

1374
01:01:28,800 --> 01:01:31,960
Speaker 1: you know, outside in lieu of Jonathan Jones, who I

1375
01:01:31,960 --> 01:01:36,720
Speaker 1: think is still recovering. Oh, drop ski by number eleven.

1376
01:01:37,600 --> 01:01:42,200
Speaker 1: Julian Edelman right on the sideline. Jewlie just shakes his

1377
01:01:42,240 --> 01:01:44,240
Speaker 1: head and take that number off.

1378
01:01:44,520 --> 01:01:46,920
Speaker 6: I feel like there were too many of those that

1379
01:01:47,000 --> 01:01:49,480
Speaker 6: when that would just happen like it literally touching their

1380
01:01:49,520 --> 01:01:50,760
Speaker 6: hands and just bouncing right out.

1381
01:01:50,840 --> 01:01:53,680
Speaker 4: It's just like good news. He ran the right route,

1382
01:01:54,280 --> 01:01:58,040
Speaker 4: making progress because he's settled inside those zone coverages off

1383
01:01:58,080 --> 01:02:00,640
Speaker 4: the play action, which is what he's supposed to do. Uh.

1384
01:02:00,720 --> 01:02:02,400
Speaker 4: And then there's somebody flash right in front of his

1385
01:02:02,480 --> 01:02:03,960
Speaker 4: face and I think that's what threw him off. But

1386
01:02:04,000 --> 01:02:05,680
Speaker 4: they practiced that and heed to be able to catch that.

1387
01:02:06,040 --> 01:02:10,400
Speaker 1: Oh yeah yeah yeah. So it's continue to see Isaiah

1388
01:02:10,440 --> 01:02:13,160
Speaker 1: Bolden there in the slot and some looks there and uh,

1389
01:02:13,360 --> 01:02:15,040
Speaker 1: you know ray Kwai McMillan, who feels like he's been

1390
01:02:15,080 --> 01:02:18,320
Speaker 1: on this team forever, maybe played like three games, but

1391
01:02:19,200 --> 01:02:21,320
Speaker 1: it's some injury problems. They do seem like a nice

1392
01:02:21,320 --> 01:02:25,760
Speaker 1: throw it a little late. Yeah, it's close to a

1393
01:02:26,360 --> 01:02:35,480
Speaker 1: practice sack if you ask me, but it is uh

1394
01:02:35,640 --> 01:02:39,720
Speaker 1: still yeah, continuing to see Nick Leverett, Uh that right

1395
01:02:39,760 --> 01:02:45,280
Speaker 1: guard as well. He's he's such a wide body.

1396
01:02:45,680 --> 01:02:48,919
Speaker 4: I do wonder about some of the size of these

1397
01:02:48,920 --> 01:02:51,600
Speaker 4: guys if they're gonna be truly a zone blocking team.

1398
01:02:51,840 --> 01:02:55,400
Speaker 3: Judean's out there on the line, so he's piating into

1399
01:02:55,440 --> 01:03:00,320
Speaker 3: the mix. David Andrews manning the center as he has

1400
01:03:00,320 --> 01:03:01,160
Speaker 3: for many years.

1401
01:03:02,840 --> 01:03:08,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, but yeah, Jalen Hawkins in the mixes haven't pointed

1402
01:03:08,600 --> 01:03:15,439
Speaker 1: out too. Got a third down here coming up? Yeah,

1403
01:03:16,880 --> 01:03:19,880
Speaker 1: there you go. There you go, hits Jalen Rager on.

1404
01:03:19,800 --> 01:03:23,640
Speaker 8: A little play there, the Rager with some space. Yeah,

1405
01:03:23,880 --> 01:03:26,720
Speaker 8: yards after catch, we'll pay pretty good play.

1406
01:03:30,320 --> 01:03:31,880
Speaker 1: But yeah, we're seeing you know, key On White two

1407
01:03:31,880 --> 01:03:34,520
Speaker 1: in the mix here. I'm just curious what his year

1408
01:03:34,520 --> 01:03:37,880
Speaker 1: two looks like. He's of all these second year guys,

1409
01:03:37,880 --> 01:03:41,040
Speaker 1: he seems like one that really could make a difference.

1410
01:03:41,120 --> 01:03:43,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, they could use something out of him. I think that,

1411
01:03:43,920 --> 01:03:45,760
Speaker 4: you know, those third down plays are gonna be big

1412
01:03:45,800 --> 01:03:48,360
Speaker 4: for them though, or they're gonna have tight bunches, you know,

1413
01:03:48,440 --> 01:03:51,280
Speaker 4: three receiver bunches on one side of the formation. Then

1414
01:03:51,280 --> 01:03:53,400
Speaker 4: you have the backside X and you just run him

1415
01:03:53,400 --> 01:03:56,080
Speaker 4: across the trash and it's a long run for the

1416
01:03:56,120 --> 01:03:58,560
Speaker 4: corner to keep up with him. That was Gonza that

1417
01:03:58,720 --> 01:04:02,840
Speaker 4: got beat there. Yeah, so you get guys like Rager, Taekwon,

1418
01:04:02,960 --> 01:04:04,720
Speaker 4: you know, guys that have some speed on those routes,

1419
01:04:04,760 --> 01:04:08,560
Speaker 4: and you're gonna have some rooms U r p O screen.

1420
01:04:09,880 --> 01:04:13,200
Speaker 1: Boom, not much there.

1421
01:04:16,960 --> 01:04:19,680
Speaker 4: Up the gauge screens. This time of year, you can't

1422
01:04:19,680 --> 01:04:21,000
Speaker 4: actually block anybody.

1423
01:04:20,720 --> 01:04:23,600
Speaker 1: Really can't move anyone out of the way. But if

1424
01:04:23,640 --> 01:04:25,000
Speaker 1: we were going to judge that one, it wouldn't have

1425
01:04:25,040 --> 01:04:30,560
Speaker 1: been good. That's a right though. I mean you do

1426
01:04:30,680 --> 01:04:33,280
Speaker 1: like these periods though, because you see, you know some

1427
01:04:33,360 --> 01:04:36,720
Speaker 1: of its depths. I mean, you know ninety seven was

1428
01:04:36,760 --> 01:04:41,000
Speaker 1: that Tristan Tristan Hill. These guys, these defensive linemen getting

1429
01:04:41,680 --> 01:04:43,720
Speaker 1: plenty of reps without guy and gotcha in the mix.

1430
01:04:48,920 --> 01:04:54,320
Speaker 4: I want to run for Taekwon receiver Osborne Juju right now.

1431
01:04:54,560 --> 01:05:03,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, there it is. That's outside zone. They're ready to

1432
01:05:03,160 --> 01:05:03,520
Speaker 1: see that.

1433
01:05:03,600 --> 01:05:06,360
Speaker 4: I think Antonio Gibson's fit in that scheme is really

1434
01:05:06,400 --> 01:05:09,280
Speaker 4: intriguing to me. The only guy that in that room

1435
01:05:09,360 --> 01:05:12,120
Speaker 4: not nothing against from Andre though, that has the speed.

1436
01:05:12,160 --> 01:05:14,440
Speaker 4: I think to get to the corner, which if you

1437
01:05:14,480 --> 01:05:18,840
Speaker 4: can't really respect the defense to respect that bounce to

1438
01:05:18,920 --> 01:05:22,040
Speaker 4: the outside in that scheme, that's what opens up the cutbacks,

1439
01:05:22,360 --> 01:05:24,200
Speaker 4: is that we can't get outside of you, so you

1440
01:05:24,280 --> 01:05:26,600
Speaker 4: have to flow fast to the outside. If there's no

1441
01:05:26,720 --> 01:05:29,160
Speaker 4: threat there for the outside, then it's going to be

1442
01:05:29,440 --> 01:05:32,000
Speaker 4: awfully clogged up in the middle. And I think he's

1443
01:05:32,040 --> 01:05:34,400
Speaker 4: probably the best guy at it that they have on

1444
01:05:34,440 --> 01:05:37,240
Speaker 4: the team.

1445
01:05:37,520 --> 01:05:48,360
Speaker 1: Still extended to the sticks thirty ten, that would have been.

1446
01:05:48,280 --> 01:05:55,240
Speaker 3: A side arms it and incomplete. That was a That

1447
01:05:55,240 --> 01:05:56,280
Speaker 3: play was over anyway.

1448
01:05:57,400 --> 01:05:59,960
Speaker 4: But that's the that's the hang up for this offense

1449
01:06:00,120 --> 01:06:02,880
Speaker 4: right now. They had kJ Osborne here on the right

1450
01:06:02,880 --> 01:06:05,280
Speaker 4: hand side, one on one coverage on the back side.

1451
01:06:06,200 --> 01:06:08,040
Speaker 4: If they don't have somebody that can win on that

1452
01:06:08,160 --> 01:06:11,360
Speaker 4: route consistently on third down, it's gonna be awfully tough

1453
01:06:11,440 --> 01:06:14,600
Speaker 4: because then you're looking at AVP saying you have to

1454
01:06:14,640 --> 01:06:17,479
Speaker 4: steam everything open for us on third down. You're gonna

1455
01:06:17,520 --> 01:06:21,400
Speaker 4: have to create somebody with separation schematically with the x's

1456
01:06:21,440 --> 01:06:24,400
Speaker 4: and no's. In Cleveland, he had Amari Cooper there in

1457
01:06:24,440 --> 01:06:27,400
Speaker 4: that spot, and there's always some place that they can say, hey,

1458
01:06:27,400 --> 01:06:27,920
Speaker 4: we got.

1459
01:06:27,720 --> 01:06:28,560
Speaker 1: One on one here.

1460
01:06:28,800 --> 01:06:30,760
Speaker 4: I thought Osborne had a nice release there, but he

1461
01:06:30,800 --> 01:06:32,680
Speaker 4: just couldn't create separation at the top of the road.

1462
01:06:32,720 --> 01:06:33,840
Speaker 1: I had some red zone works.

1463
01:06:33,880 --> 01:06:36,320
Speaker 3: So instead of like doing a few plays for each quarterback,

1464
01:06:36,320 --> 01:06:38,080
Speaker 3: it looks like they're simulating a series.

1465
01:06:39,080 --> 01:06:40,880
Speaker 8: And uh Brissett's still in there.

1466
01:06:41,200 --> 01:06:43,840
Speaker 1: Yeah. Now he's going at it from about those twelve

1467
01:06:43,960 --> 01:06:58,840
Speaker 1: yeahn so is that hasty? Yeah, another one of those

1468
01:06:58,880 --> 01:07:01,680
Speaker 1: guys that just has a chance. They only got real

1469
01:07:01,760 --> 01:07:05,000
Speaker 1: two running backs that seem secured on the death shart

1470
01:07:06,040 --> 01:07:11,280
Speaker 1: to Michael Hasety, the two undrafted rookies and f Nings. Yeah,

1471
01:07:11,320 --> 01:07:12,640
Speaker 1: it's it's gonna get some carries.

1472
01:07:12,800 --> 01:07:15,560
Speaker 4: I still think that they're running back short, especially for

1473
01:07:15,600 --> 01:07:17,640
Speaker 4: how much they're gonna want to run the ball in

1474
01:07:17,760 --> 01:07:21,040
Speaker 4: this offense. I wonder if the third, the true third

1475
01:07:21,120 --> 01:07:23,320
Speaker 4: running back isn't on the team yet and it's one

1476
01:07:23,360 --> 01:07:26,160
Speaker 4: of those veterans Zeke Elliott type of signings at some point.

1477
01:07:26,440 --> 01:07:32,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, of course, just a little fun here is uh,

1478
01:07:32,520 --> 01:07:34,960
Speaker 1: Michael and when you at right guard and Kayden Wallace

1479
01:07:35,040 --> 01:07:39,000
Speaker 1: at right tackle, So this is this is really to me,

1480
01:07:39,760 --> 01:07:41,600
Speaker 1: this is their best five. Yeah.

1481
01:07:41,720 --> 01:07:44,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, Kdan Wallace playing his natural position at right tackle

1482
01:07:45,240 --> 01:07:48,800
Speaker 4: Big Mike at right guard his natural spot, Andrews City

1483
01:07:49,200 --> 01:07:52,920
Speaker 4: Chooks the corps for everybody's where they belong besides maybe chookes.

1484
01:07:52,960 --> 01:07:56,000
Speaker 4: But if you can build on this offensive line together

1485
01:07:56,280 --> 01:07:58,400
Speaker 4: and then you draft the top tackle in the draft

1486
01:07:58,440 --> 01:08:01,600
Speaker 4: next year at left tackles, then all of a sudden

1487
01:08:01,600 --> 01:08:03,560
Speaker 4: you have a full unit. I I just feel like

1488
01:08:03,560 --> 01:08:06,480
Speaker 4: this is where everybody fits most naturally. And then you

1489
01:08:06,520 --> 01:08:09,800
Speaker 4: figure out left tackle next off season. Unfortunately, but maybe you.

1490
01:08:09,760 --> 01:08:12,320
Speaker 1: Know chukes can can hold up at least a little bit.

1491
01:08:14,800 --> 01:08:19,919
Speaker 8: All right, we got here, They're down third down. Taekwon

1492
01:08:20,000 --> 01:08:21,200
Speaker 8: out wide.

1493
01:08:21,600 --> 01:08:26,080
Speaker 1: Pop in the slot. I was born to the left.

1494
01:08:27,880 --> 01:08:30,280
Speaker 1: That's where I'm looking Pop Douglas all day. Right here

1495
01:08:30,920 --> 01:08:35,240
Speaker 1: there it is boom. Yeah, he had to help inside.

1496
01:08:35,400 --> 01:08:38,160
Speaker 1: Nice grab. Who was that three? Yeah that was Pop?

1497
01:08:38,240 --> 01:08:39,880
Speaker 1: But he had as Evan said, he had him right

1498
01:08:39,920 --> 01:08:42,559
Speaker 1: off the right off the break. I mean it took

1499
01:08:42,600 --> 01:08:44,360
Speaker 1: a little long to get rid of that. He had

1500
01:08:44,360 --> 01:08:44,839
Speaker 1: the window.

1501
01:08:45,880 --> 01:08:49,760
Speaker 3: Really nice nice catch by Douglas. Farm more doing a

1502
01:08:49,760 --> 01:08:51,679
Speaker 3: lot of pre snap movement on the line.

1503
01:08:52,160 --> 01:08:55,360
Speaker 7: June was like very vocal, like telling him more to

1504
01:08:55,400 --> 01:08:56,320
Speaker 7: move around and stuff too.

1505
01:08:59,680 --> 01:09:02,760
Speaker 1: He's now they're switching it up. Us up. It's like

1506
01:09:02,880 --> 01:09:07,759
Speaker 1: good which quarterbacks up? Is in the wheel? Drake May's

1507
01:09:07,840 --> 01:09:13,200
Speaker 1: hustling got the helmet scrapped up. Now they're fun really good.

1508
01:09:13,479 --> 01:09:16,760
Speaker 3: People are wondering where Paul Perillo is. He left to

1509
01:09:16,800 --> 01:09:21,240
Speaker 3: cover the w NBA so that you know, the originally

1510
01:09:21,400 --> 01:09:24,479
Speaker 3: mini camp wasn't scheduled for today, so back in the

1511
01:09:24,840 --> 01:09:28,719
Speaker 3: UH a while ago. He signed up for a charitable

1512
01:09:28,760 --> 01:09:31,519
Speaker 3: golf tournament today, so he's doing that, so.

1513
01:09:33,040 --> 01:09:35,720
Speaker 1: He'd rather be here, of course he was. We just

1514
01:09:35,920 --> 01:09:39,040
Speaker 1: spend twenty minutes talking about special teams. Not sure about that.

1515
01:09:40,640 --> 01:09:42,360
Speaker 7: Also, I really like the music playing during this.

1516
01:09:43,479 --> 01:09:48,519
Speaker 1: We can't mention it. Yeah, no, we don't want any lawsuits,

1517
01:09:48,560 --> 01:09:55,559
Speaker 1: but I was all right. Drake May is behind center. Yeah,

1518
01:09:55,600 --> 01:09:59,840
Speaker 1: so polk Juju and Kaishan Booty at receiver and number

1519
01:10:00,040 --> 01:10:09,080
Speaker 1: eighty seven that's not Matt Mitchell willco cross are there?

1520
01:10:09,240 --> 01:10:09,920
Speaker 1: Mitchell will.

1521
01:10:11,360 --> 01:10:13,759
Speaker 8: A little underneath pass.

1522
01:10:13,040 --> 01:10:16,960
Speaker 1: Over the middle. Yeah, the goh and gun on this

1523
01:10:17,000 --> 01:10:17,320
Speaker 1: one though.

1524
01:10:17,320 --> 01:10:19,280
Speaker 4: They haven't put him under center like they did with

1525
01:10:19,360 --> 01:10:22,000
Speaker 4: Jakobe to start to drive, so this one looks a

1526
01:10:22,040 --> 01:10:23,559
Speaker 4: little bit more like hurry up right now. He's now

1527
01:10:23,600 --> 01:10:30,679
Speaker 4: he's on the center, of course, my actually sixty three god.

1528
01:10:38,520 --> 01:10:43,880
Speaker 1: Check down. Yeah, I'll pack up and interesting, uh you know,

1529
01:10:44,000 --> 01:10:48,040
Speaker 1: Tony Maffi. That's another one of these like random roster developments.

1530
01:10:48,040 --> 01:10:50,559
Speaker 1: Playing a lot of center. Yeah, it's all surprising. I mean,

1531
01:10:52,200 --> 01:10:53,679
Speaker 1: Jake andrew is not sure where he's been.

1532
01:10:56,600 --> 01:10:59,679
Speaker 4: I don't really look at him as a center, Jake Andrews,

1533
01:11:00,200 --> 01:11:04,519
Speaker 4: but yeah, just center. You want somebody that is a

1534
01:11:04,560 --> 01:11:06,800
Speaker 4: little bit athletic. Yeah, because he kind of sets the

1535
01:11:06,840 --> 01:11:08,880
Speaker 4: pace for the entire line in the run game.

1536
01:11:10,280 --> 01:11:22,160
Speaker 5: Yea booty in the slot.

1537
01:11:22,840 --> 01:11:25,639
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's he can't. He can't the red seats camp

1538
01:11:25,640 --> 01:11:29,200
Speaker 1: fire for Drake, he's gonna go. Yeah, that's gonna be

1539
01:11:29,280 --> 01:11:31,360
Speaker 1: fun part of his game. I think that it gets

1540
01:11:31,400 --> 01:11:34,280
Speaker 1: a little bit glossed over because of the all the

1541
01:11:34,320 --> 01:11:36,799
Speaker 1: other conversations with him. But he's mobile.

1542
01:11:37,200 --> 01:11:39,479
Speaker 4: Two years ago at the UNC especially, he ran for

1543
01:11:39,520 --> 01:11:42,920
Speaker 4: double digit touchdowns in that offense. But he's a mobile guy,

1544
01:11:42,960 --> 01:11:46,040
Speaker 4: and if you give him green grass third down and six,

1545
01:11:46,120 --> 01:11:47,840
Speaker 4: third down and seven, he's gonna be able to pick

1546
01:11:47,880 --> 01:11:50,680
Speaker 4: those up easily and actually make some plays with his

1547
01:11:50,800 --> 01:11:53,880
Speaker 4: leg as a runner. So I don't know how much

1548
01:11:53,880 --> 01:11:56,120
Speaker 4: they're gonna want to do it by design. I don't

1549
01:11:56,120 --> 01:11:57,360
Speaker 4: know if they're going to want to put that on

1550
01:11:57,439 --> 01:12:00,280
Speaker 4: it on him early on, just a term of the

1551
01:12:00,280 --> 01:12:00,840
Speaker 4: wear and tear.

1552
01:12:00,920 --> 01:12:07,240
Speaker 1: But he can definitely move learn how to slide. All right,

1553
01:12:07,280 --> 01:12:10,599
Speaker 1: So we moved up here. What about the friend red

1554
01:12:10,680 --> 01:12:11,360
Speaker 1: Z eighteen or so?

1555
01:12:11,680 --> 01:12:16,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, still may high red zone eighty seven.

1556
01:12:18,320 --> 01:12:21,759
Speaker 3: Yeah see now, okay, So we talked about it earlier,

1557
01:12:21,880 --> 01:12:26,960
Speaker 3: about old habits, and that's where I see his arm

1558
01:12:27,040 --> 01:12:28,200
Speaker 3: got a little bit loose.

1559
01:12:28,520 --> 01:12:30,720
Speaker 8: He saw a little bit of that loop on the

1560
01:12:30,760 --> 01:12:32,519
Speaker 8: delivery that you don't need.

1561
01:12:33,040 --> 01:12:36,640
Speaker 3: And he he floated it a little bit. Yeah, that

1562
01:12:36,800 --> 01:12:40,200
Speaker 3: was he's gotta he doesn't need. He needs to be

1563
01:12:40,240 --> 01:12:43,520
Speaker 3: tighter with that release and get rid of that loop.

1564
01:12:46,680 --> 01:12:49,519
Speaker 1: Rather than miss like that. This long if you're gonna have,

1565
01:12:50,240 --> 01:12:52,600
Speaker 1: if you're long, you're not wrong. Yeah, second down. But

1566
01:12:52,640 --> 01:12:55,320
Speaker 1: there is a lot of a lot of try hard guys.

1567
01:12:57,320 --> 01:13:00,599
Speaker 4: I could make it hard on him, right, she's.

1568
01:13:00,479 --> 01:13:01,320
Speaker 1: The bottom of the roster.

1569
01:13:01,400 --> 01:13:09,880
Speaker 8: Weaponry here, hasty check that I sort of flick out

1570
01:13:09,880 --> 01:13:17,400
Speaker 8: to the sideline. Yeah, I mean this has been fine,

1571
01:13:18,200 --> 01:13:21,760
Speaker 8: Like to just see one like laser throw on time drop.

1572
01:13:23,560 --> 01:13:26,200
Speaker 4: Not a ton of open targets out there. He missed

1573
01:13:26,200 --> 01:13:29,479
Speaker 4: will Cox, will Cox also, I think could have gotten

1574
01:13:29,479 --> 01:13:30,759
Speaker 4: out of that round a little bit cleaner.

1575
01:13:30,800 --> 01:13:40,519
Speaker 1: But that that's me defending the quarterback, like always see

1576
01:13:40,560 --> 01:13:43,200
Speaker 1: a lot of gun though from Maya. Only one snap

1577
01:13:43,240 --> 01:13:47,720
Speaker 1: on your center, Chod you on the outside, booty on

1578
01:13:47,760 --> 01:13:54,000
Speaker 1: the backside, batsnap pressure. Oh nice catch made he come

1579
01:13:54,040 --> 01:13:57,719
Speaker 1: down with it, did catch it. I goes to the offense.

1580
01:13:59,720 --> 01:14:02,519
Speaker 1: That was a break fifty to fifty ball that who

1581
01:14:02,600 --> 01:14:07,240
Speaker 1: thought was that's a headway? Yeah, Michael that way? Yeah yeah,

1582
01:14:07,560 --> 01:14:09,519
Speaker 1: so yeah, Drake may just put it up in the

1583
01:14:09,600 --> 01:14:11,599
Speaker 1: end zone. Petway was able to go up and grab

1584
01:14:11,640 --> 01:14:15,880
Speaker 1: it away from the defender, but contested catch touchdown.

1585
01:14:16,040 --> 01:14:18,160
Speaker 4: It's also probably would have been a sack of the game.

1586
01:14:18,640 --> 01:14:20,599
Speaker 4: You don't have to talk about that. Yeah, that's not

1587
01:14:20,640 --> 01:14:21,040
Speaker 4: his fault.

1588
01:14:21,080 --> 01:14:26,120
Speaker 1: That snap, too, is something the watch. I'm surprised, you know,

1589
01:14:26,160 --> 01:14:30,720
Speaker 1: the kid, Charles Turner, undrafted rookie, he's a he was center.

1590
01:14:31,880 --> 01:14:32,200
Speaker 6: L s U.

1591
01:14:32,840 --> 01:14:36,360
Speaker 1: Surprised he can't get a Yeah me snaps maybe me too.

1592
01:14:36,400 --> 01:14:39,800
Speaker 4: I thought he had a chance as a UDFA, pretty

1593
01:14:39,880 --> 01:14:44,800
Speaker 4: highly regarded Big Conference player. You know, sec guy made

1594
01:14:44,840 --> 01:14:45,639
Speaker 4: a lot of starts.

1595
01:14:46,000 --> 01:14:48,439
Speaker 1: Coaches, Yeah, coaches spoke really high of them. So that

1596
01:14:48,479 --> 01:14:51,040
Speaker 1: looks like that's going to conclude the eleven that eleven

1597
01:14:51,080 --> 01:14:55,040
Speaker 1: on eleven portion, it's the offensive line retreats back to

1598
01:14:55,080 --> 01:14:55,639
Speaker 1: their corner.

1599
01:14:56,280 --> 01:15:00,920
Speaker 8: So that portion period six you only saw, uh right,

1600
01:15:02,080 --> 01:15:04,600
Speaker 8: May and Brissette getting.

1601
01:15:05,000 --> 01:15:06,640
Speaker 4: Looks like we're gonna do sevens now, this is what

1602
01:15:06,680 --> 01:15:09,320
Speaker 4: they've been doing. They do eleven on eleven period and

1603
01:15:09,320 --> 01:15:12,920
Speaker 4: then we break into sevens and at the defensive linem

1604
01:15:12,920 --> 01:15:15,400
Speaker 4: and go someplace else for a little bit. But I

1605
01:15:16,040 --> 01:15:19,559
Speaker 4: think for May, just in general, just do you miss

1606
01:15:19,560 --> 01:15:21,840
Speaker 4: a few throws you know there I thought on the

1607
01:15:22,240 --> 01:15:24,760
Speaker 4: we talked about the one to Wilcox. But his eyes

1608
01:15:24,800 --> 01:15:27,160
Speaker 4: are in the right places, which is intriguing, you know,

1609
01:15:27,200 --> 01:15:29,120
Speaker 4: like that's what I'm looking for this time of year.

1610
01:15:29,439 --> 01:15:32,240
Speaker 4: Right now, as he's seeing it cleanly, and I thought

1611
01:15:32,240 --> 01:15:34,960
Speaker 4: he did throughout that period. You you make that throw,

1612
01:15:35,040 --> 01:15:36,439
Speaker 4: it looks a little bit differently.

1613
01:15:36,640 --> 01:15:42,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, just I mean as far as watching practice,

1614
01:15:42,160 --> 01:15:45,800
Speaker 1: which we've done plenty of by this point, you know,

1615
01:15:46,240 --> 01:15:48,839
Speaker 1: he continues to intrigue me. I mean, he looks pretty comfortable.

1616
01:15:48,880 --> 01:15:52,400
Speaker 1: Like again, I'd love to see couple like whoa, that

1617
01:15:52,520 --> 01:15:54,080
Speaker 1: was a that was a throw you.

1618
01:15:54,000 --> 01:15:59,680
Speaker 4: Know, waiting on that probably made to Taekwon like one

1619
01:15:59,720 --> 01:16:02,640
Speaker 4: of the first practice that was a pretty one. But

1620
01:16:03,200 --> 01:16:06,640
Speaker 4: I think, what again, if his eyes are in the

1621
01:16:06,720 --> 01:16:09,519
Speaker 4: right place and he's on time on the throws, the

1622
01:16:09,600 --> 01:16:11,640
Speaker 4: accuracy and all that kind of stuff that we need

1623
01:16:11,640 --> 01:16:15,120
Speaker 4: to pick him on that that stuff will come with repetitions, Yeah,

1624
01:16:15,200 --> 01:16:18,360
Speaker 4: and with practice and with NFL coaching. It's just it's

1625
01:16:18,400 --> 01:16:20,720
Speaker 4: the mental stuff that you worry about with young quarterbacks,

1626
01:16:20,720 --> 01:16:22,439
Speaker 4: like are their eyes in the light right places? Is

1627
01:16:22,479 --> 01:16:25,080
Speaker 4: their their drops sync to the route? You know, those

1628
01:16:25,120 --> 01:16:28,240
Speaker 4: types of things. If he's not doing that consistently, that's

1629
01:16:28,240 --> 01:16:31,040
Speaker 4: when it can really snowball on him and turnovers happen

1630
01:16:31,120 --> 01:16:31,720
Speaker 4: and things like that.

1631
01:16:31,760 --> 01:16:32,840
Speaker 1: He's going to miss some throws.

1632
01:16:33,000 --> 01:16:35,639
Speaker 3: Eight five five past five hundred is the ace ticket houtline.

1633
01:16:35,720 --> 01:16:41,679
Speaker 3: Let's go to Nathan and Tampa. Nathan, you're still there, yes, sir, well,

1634
01:16:41,760 --> 01:16:42,719
Speaker 3: thanks for holding on.

1635
01:16:43,800 --> 01:16:46,760
Speaker 1: Yees, they're I just got a quick question kind of

1636
01:16:46,760 --> 01:16:48,599
Speaker 1: about cleaning wall future.

1637
01:16:49,640 --> 01:16:54,400
Speaker 4: So say, aypothetically the left side goes pretty bad stick.

1638
01:16:54,240 --> 01:16:54,680
Speaker 7: Here and.

1639
01:16:57,800 --> 01:17:01,920
Speaker 8: They want to show with the best not available, where

1640
01:17:01,920 --> 01:17:02,360
Speaker 8: does that.

1641
01:17:04,200 --> 01:17:06,679
Speaker 4: If they had him on the left side this year

1642
01:17:06,800 --> 01:17:07,519
Speaker 4: and then now.

1643
01:17:07,320 --> 01:17:12,320
Speaker 1: You're you know, where where does he go from there. Yeah, well,

1644
01:17:12,640 --> 01:17:15,240
Speaker 1: I would just say I I mean, the last couple

1645
01:17:15,240 --> 01:17:19,439
Speaker 1: of practices he's been working at right tackle, so yeah, uh,

1646
01:17:19,560 --> 01:17:21,320
Speaker 1: you know, maybe it's not a problem. I mean, maybe

1647
01:17:21,320 --> 01:17:23,920
Speaker 1: they do need a left tackle still and Kid Wallace

1648
01:17:24,000 --> 01:17:25,960
Speaker 1: is your right tackle the future and when he's gonna

1649
01:17:26,000 --> 01:17:27,439
Speaker 1: you know, go back to right guard, which I think

1650
01:17:27,479 --> 01:17:29,599
Speaker 1: a lot of us still think that that he's ideal

1651
01:17:29,680 --> 01:17:33,479
Speaker 1: fit there, but it's it's a good question. Something will

1652
01:17:33,479 --> 01:17:36,439
Speaker 1: be monitoring every practice where he's lining up. But think

1653
01:17:36,479 --> 01:17:38,720
Speaker 1: what evan. The first two practices we saw him get

1654
01:17:38,760 --> 01:17:42,000
Speaker 1: some reps that left tackle lower level, and we haven't

1655
01:17:42,000 --> 01:17:44,160
Speaker 1: really seen that now. He's been on the right side

1656
01:17:44,560 --> 01:17:46,840
Speaker 1: most recently on those you know, first team reps down

1657
01:17:46,880 --> 01:17:48,880
Speaker 1: the red zone where he gots thanks to the problem

1658
01:17:48,960 --> 01:17:49,719
Speaker 1: with the first team.

1659
01:17:49,840 --> 01:17:53,040
Speaker 4: So yeah, I just feel like again, and we talked

1660
01:17:53,040 --> 01:17:54,960
Speaker 4: about this when they went with that line that had

1661
01:17:55,120 --> 01:17:58,080
Speaker 4: on when who had guard and Kid Wallace at right tackle.

1662
01:17:58,479 --> 01:18:00,760
Speaker 4: But you talked about building for the future and not

1663
01:18:00,880 --> 01:18:03,880
Speaker 4: just focusing on the twenty twenty four season. Candaon Wallace

1664
01:18:03,920 --> 01:18:07,280
Speaker 4: playing right tackle, maybe finding himself a starting role there

1665
01:18:07,560 --> 01:18:10,160
Speaker 4: and then he draft a left tackle, It just makes

1666
01:18:10,160 --> 01:18:13,800
Speaker 4: a lot more sense than trying to shoehorn him him

1667
01:18:13,840 --> 01:18:15,760
Speaker 4: into being a left tackle when he's really not a

1668
01:18:15,840 --> 01:18:18,479
Speaker 4: left tackle. I would just much rather see them go

1669
01:18:18,600 --> 01:18:21,240
Speaker 4: the developmental route for the future, to the callers point

1670
01:18:21,280 --> 01:18:23,559
Speaker 4: of this is your position, and then we'll worry about

1671
01:18:23,640 --> 01:18:26,640
Speaker 4: left tackle when we draft Kelvin Banks. See, maybe it's

1672
01:18:26,640 --> 01:18:28,519
Speaker 4: a little bit late to that one, and that's what

1673
01:18:28,600 --> 01:18:31,240
Speaker 4: I don't want to see right throw it on time,

1674
01:18:31,360 --> 01:18:33,840
Speaker 4: throw it when it's meant to be thrown. And if

1675
01:18:33,840 --> 01:18:35,880
Speaker 4: it's a little bit off with the accuracy, they can

1676
01:18:35,920 --> 01:18:37,639
Speaker 4: fix that. They can fine tune that, but you don't

1677
01:18:37,640 --> 01:18:38,639
Speaker 4: want him to be late, to think.

1678
01:18:38,920 --> 01:18:41,479
Speaker 8: Sean and Vancouver writes in Drake May should start when

1679
01:18:41,479 --> 01:18:43,080
Speaker 8: the team is ready for him to start.

1680
01:18:43,360 --> 01:18:44,559
Speaker 1: It needs to be ready to play.

1681
01:18:44,640 --> 01:18:47,320
Speaker 3: But there can't be a turnstile at left tackle that

1682
01:18:47,439 --> 01:18:50,479
Speaker 3: makes it impossible for him to perform and possibly get hurt.

1683
01:18:50,800 --> 01:18:52,599
Speaker 1: I'm not confident that Wallace can.

1684
01:18:52,560 --> 01:18:55,040
Speaker 3: Make the switch from right too, and a corp for

1685
01:18:55,160 --> 01:18:57,920
Speaker 3: it lost his job last season at Pittsburgh get right tackle.

1686
01:18:58,240 --> 01:19:00,920
Speaker 3: There are no real NFL left tack on the Patriot's

1687
01:19:00,960 --> 01:19:04,080
Speaker 3: current roster. Yes, May needs to be challenged and he

1688
01:19:04,160 --> 01:19:07,439
Speaker 3: needs the experience, but without an ounce of protection, it

1689
01:19:07,479 --> 01:19:08,679
Speaker 3: would be a waste of time.

1690
01:19:08,760 --> 01:19:10,920
Speaker 4: All right, I'll see you in twenty twenty nine. From

1691
01:19:11,160 --> 01:19:13,840
Speaker 4: side that it's ready for him to play. I just like,

1692
01:19:14,240 --> 01:19:16,760
Speaker 4: how long are we gonna wait or we're gonna just

1693
01:19:16,840 --> 01:19:19,360
Speaker 4: keep pushing kicking the can down the road because the

1694
01:19:19,439 --> 01:19:22,240
Speaker 4: rest of the thing isn't ready. I just what other

1695
01:19:22,320 --> 01:19:25,799
Speaker 4: quarterback has had that benefit? Did they say in Miami

1696
01:19:25,960 --> 01:19:28,240
Speaker 4: like to sorry, you know, we don't have an offensive line,

1697
01:19:28,280 --> 01:19:29,360
Speaker 4: so we're just not going to play you.

1698
01:19:29,320 --> 01:19:32,160
Speaker 1: For two years. Like, you just can't go about it

1699
01:19:32,240 --> 01:19:34,200
Speaker 1: that way, But you can't wait till the offense is

1700
01:19:34,200 --> 01:19:36,400
Speaker 1: perfect and every piece is in place. And by the way,

1701
01:19:36,479 --> 01:19:39,200
Speaker 1: Jacoby Brissett, you're fine to be out get killed.

1702
01:19:39,240 --> 01:19:42,080
Speaker 4: And I totally get what the Everyboddy's point is with that.

1703
01:19:42,200 --> 01:19:43,920
Speaker 4: And I'm not telling you that he has to start

1704
01:19:44,000 --> 01:19:46,680
Speaker 4: right away and be thrown into the fire either, but

1705
01:19:46,760 --> 01:19:48,800
Speaker 4: at some point he's gonna have to play.

1706
01:19:49,800 --> 01:19:55,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, well on time, just not on that guy wasn't open.

1707
01:19:55,680 --> 01:19:59,559
Speaker 4: Yeah, but you see, you know he's attacking the one

1708
01:19:59,560 --> 01:20:03,200
Speaker 4: on one. So there's really no with the corner playing trail,

1709
01:20:03,240 --> 01:20:05,960
Speaker 4: there's there's no real threat to that being a turnover.

1710
01:20:06,320 --> 01:20:08,320
Speaker 4: So you just throw the ball up and you give

1711
01:20:08,320 --> 01:20:10,559
Speaker 4: your guy a chance. And those are the types of plays.

1712
01:20:10,600 --> 01:20:12,519
Speaker 4: Unfortunately for this team you might see a lot of

1713
01:20:12,560 --> 01:20:15,599
Speaker 4: with guys, you know, guy decent coverage.

1714
01:20:16,040 --> 01:20:18,559
Speaker 3: Yeah, and that was downfield and certainly the ball had

1715
01:20:18,600 --> 01:20:22,120
Speaker 3: the distance, it wasn't short. The only person who could

1716
01:20:22,120 --> 01:20:23,559
Speaker 3: have made the catch was the offense.

1717
01:20:25,320 --> 01:20:33,439
Speaker 1: It's good covers, sappy times.

1718
01:20:34,840 --> 01:20:37,759
Speaker 3: Most interesting Patriots fan in the world, James Pettigrew writes

1719
01:20:37,760 --> 01:20:40,280
Speaker 3: in I've been hearing a lot about left foot forward

1720
01:20:40,400 --> 01:20:43,200
Speaker 3: rhythm and hitches. Do you think Mac would have have

1721
01:20:43,720 --> 01:20:47,160
Speaker 3: fit as a quarterback with this new system and coaches

1722
01:20:47,280 --> 01:20:49,479
Speaker 3: or did he lack the raw talent? How much better

1723
01:20:49,520 --> 01:20:51,559
Speaker 3: could he have looked in the A VP system.

1724
01:20:52,680 --> 01:20:54,960
Speaker 4: I don't really think it's a system for him and

1725
01:20:54,960 --> 01:20:57,160
Speaker 4: that and that's not to say that there isn't a

1726
01:20:57,200 --> 01:21:00,200
Speaker 4: system that exists that Mac Jones thrives in. But this

1727
01:21:00,320 --> 01:21:04,439
Speaker 4: offense is a lot less mentally on the quarterback, and

1728
01:21:04,640 --> 01:21:08,280
Speaker 4: it's a lot more downfield throws, especially off of moving pockets.

1729
01:21:08,560 --> 01:21:11,280
Speaker 4: Dasking Mac Jones that hit a deep over forty yards

1730
01:21:11,280 --> 01:21:13,160
Speaker 4: down the field from a bootleg, I don't think that

1731
01:21:13,160 --> 01:21:16,519
Speaker 4: that's really the offense for him. There are some West

1732
01:21:16,560 --> 01:21:18,720
Speaker 4: Coast elements that maybe would have fit him in, like

1733
01:21:18,760 --> 01:21:21,640
Speaker 4: the third down hurry up, that's more timing based, that

1734
01:21:21,680 --> 01:21:23,840
Speaker 4: would have worked, But their early down offense is so

1735
01:21:23,960 --> 01:21:27,519
Speaker 4: heavily involved with the deep throws down the field. I

1736
01:21:27,800 --> 01:21:29,280
Speaker 4: just don't know if that necessarily would have been a

1737
01:21:29,320 --> 01:21:30,040
Speaker 4: great fit for him.

1738
01:21:30,680 --> 01:21:32,320
Speaker 8: Bailey ZAPPI in there now.

1739
01:21:33,200 --> 01:21:35,240
Speaker 1: Did you get a load of Teamian Harris fred No?

1740
01:21:35,640 --> 01:21:36,519
Speaker 1: Oh what he said?

1741
01:21:36,840 --> 01:21:40,160
Speaker 8: Yeahs not holding back.

1742
01:21:40,360 --> 01:21:44,080
Speaker 1: No, No, I had to talk with Paul. I mean,

1743
01:21:44,120 --> 01:21:47,760
Speaker 1: probably best safe for when Paul was here. But I mean,

1744
01:21:47,760 --> 01:21:49,400
Speaker 1: I think everybody is aware that Damien Harris and Mac

1745
01:21:49,439 --> 01:21:50,320
Speaker 1: Jones were best friends.

1746
01:21:50,840 --> 01:21:53,599
Speaker 4: Yeah, that was my initial reaction to it, as well

1747
01:21:53,640 --> 01:21:57,120
Speaker 4: as Damien Harris is very clearly a NAC Jones guy,

1748
01:21:58,000 --> 01:22:00,640
Speaker 4: so I have to put that green and there. But

1749
01:22:00,920 --> 01:22:02,280
Speaker 4: we were talking about it on the way up here.

1750
01:22:02,360 --> 01:22:06,479
Speaker 4: Do so nothing you said was wrong he was. He

1751
01:22:06,520 --> 01:22:08,479
Speaker 4: was pretty spot on about what he said, you know

1752
01:22:08,479 --> 01:22:11,760
Speaker 4: about the offense. Yeah, in twenty twenty two, and it

1753
01:22:11,840 --> 01:22:12,880
Speaker 4: was funny though I went back.

1754
01:22:12,920 --> 01:22:14,880
Speaker 1: I just uh, you know, for the last couple of years,

1755
01:22:14,920 --> 01:22:17,080
Speaker 1: I just kept notes after every training camp practice, you know,

1756
01:22:17,200 --> 01:22:21,200
Speaker 1: just generally what happened impression, and yeah, it was bad.

1757
01:22:21,360 --> 01:22:23,840
Speaker 1: It was bad. And I remember somebody wrote into PU

1758
01:22:23,920 --> 01:22:26,640
Speaker 1: recently saying how depressed I was in Vegas, And I

1759
01:22:26,680 --> 01:22:32,040
Speaker 1: didn't really remember being depressed in Vegas, but that first day,

1760
01:22:32,120 --> 01:22:33,599
Speaker 1: like I looked at my notes and it was like

1761
01:22:33,880 --> 01:22:36,599
Speaker 1: it was terrible all day until that last two minute

1762
01:22:36,640 --> 01:22:39,120
Speaker 1: drive that they had where they did actually score, but

1763
01:22:39,200 --> 01:22:42,519
Speaker 1: otherwise they did nothing. So I think that's you look

1764
01:22:42,600 --> 01:22:44,880
Speaker 1: back and it's like it was just staring you right

1765
01:22:44,880 --> 01:22:47,320
Speaker 1: in the face the whole time. And as much as

1766
01:22:47,360 --> 01:22:48,680
Speaker 1: I just didn't want to believe it, you know, you

1767
01:22:48,680 --> 01:22:49,840
Speaker 1: didn't want to believe it, but.

1768
01:22:49,920 --> 01:22:54,160
Speaker 4: It was future. It was a really bad summer, yeah,

1769
01:22:54,240 --> 01:22:56,960
Speaker 4: for that offense. And there was never buy in. There

1770
01:22:57,000 --> 01:22:59,200
Speaker 4: was never confidence in what they were trying to do.

1771
01:22:59,760 --> 01:23:02,680
Speaker 4: It always felt forced and like the players at the

1772
01:23:02,680 --> 01:23:05,360
Speaker 4: podiums were trying to sell themselves that this is going

1773
01:23:05,400 --> 01:23:07,200
Speaker 4: to work, you know, just because they have to do

1774
01:23:07,240 --> 01:23:09,080
Speaker 4: it and you know, this is what the situation is.

1775
01:23:09,720 --> 01:23:11,120
Speaker 4: And it just never felt right.

1776
01:23:11,200 --> 01:23:14,439
Speaker 1: Yeah. Do you think other NFL teams complete as many

1777
01:23:14,479 --> 01:23:16,800
Speaker 1: passes in practice to their running backs as the Patriots

1778
01:23:16,800 --> 01:23:18,519
Speaker 1: too over the last like three years, Because I just

1779
01:23:18,560 --> 01:23:23,479
Speaker 1: feel like seventy percent of all are thrown like check

1780
01:23:23,520 --> 01:23:24,320
Speaker 1: down to the running back.

1781
01:23:24,360 --> 01:23:28,519
Speaker 4: Sometimes I wonder if this is something that we might

1782
01:23:28,520 --> 01:23:30,160
Speaker 4: not have full context.

1783
01:23:29,720 --> 01:23:31,519
Speaker 1: Going through progressions and then just throwing it to the

1784
01:23:31,600 --> 01:23:32,040
Speaker 1: last guy.

1785
01:23:32,400 --> 01:23:32,479
Speaker 7: Right.

1786
01:23:32,560 --> 01:23:34,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, That's what I try to tell myself too. But

1787
01:23:34,200 --> 01:23:36,000
Speaker 1: I'm like, some of.

1788
01:23:35,960 --> 01:23:38,000
Speaker 4: It might be that we're going to go one, two, three,

1789
01:23:38,120 --> 01:23:40,240
Speaker 4: and where I just don't just dump it off. But

1790
01:23:40,600 --> 01:23:42,559
Speaker 4: the most important thing is just to get the feel

1791
01:23:42,600 --> 01:23:43,760
Speaker 4: of going through the progression.

1792
01:23:43,880 --> 01:23:50,599
Speaker 8: Yeah, right, moving to period eight rallying here, Still no

1793
01:23:50,840 --> 01:23:51,840
Speaker 8: reps for Joe Milton.

1794
01:23:51,840 --> 01:23:54,120
Speaker 4: We were talking earlier in the show about how Zappi

1795
01:23:54,280 --> 01:23:57,000
Speaker 4: is the lock to be the odd man out. I'm

1796
01:23:57,040 --> 01:24:00,360
Speaker 4: not hundred percent convinced about that just yet. I'm gonna

1797
01:24:00,360 --> 01:24:03,080
Speaker 4: have to see something from Joe Milton in the preseason

1798
01:24:03,120 --> 01:24:04,200
Speaker 4: games to really be ye.

1799
01:24:04,800 --> 01:24:07,960
Speaker 1: I mean he's I mean, did he take any last week?

1800
01:24:07,960 --> 01:24:09,519
Speaker 1: I mean a couple of maybe seven on seven.

1801
01:24:09,400 --> 01:24:11,679
Speaker 4: Yeah, and he missed that one practice for whatever reason.

1802
01:24:11,680 --> 01:24:14,519
Speaker 4: They're doing a leverage drill right now, open field tackling

1803
01:24:14,600 --> 01:24:16,439
Speaker 4: drill without being able to.

1804
01:24:16,400 --> 01:24:19,400
Speaker 8: Tackle, yeah, no contact, Yeah, just to be clear.

1805
01:24:19,520 --> 01:24:23,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, but yeah, I'm just.

1806
01:24:23,280 --> 01:24:24,040
Speaker 1: Not convinced yet.

1807
01:24:24,040 --> 01:24:27,160
Speaker 4: That if you had to throw somebody into an NFL game,

1808
01:24:28,120 --> 01:24:30,720
Speaker 4: I'm throwing Zappian before I'm throwing Joe Milton in right

1809
01:24:30,760 --> 01:24:31,559
Speaker 4: now based off of.

1810
01:24:31,560 --> 01:24:33,000
Speaker 1: What we've seen in these practices.

1811
01:24:33,080 --> 01:24:35,320
Speaker 4: So I'm just had one hundred percent convinced yet that

1812
01:24:35,320 --> 01:24:37,800
Speaker 4: that's a Yes, they drafted him, but it was a

1813
01:24:37,880 --> 01:24:40,640
Speaker 4: late sixth round pick. If he doesn't do anything in

1814
01:24:40,680 --> 01:24:44,080
Speaker 4: the preseason games's practice squad candidate. Is someone really going

1815
01:24:44,160 --> 01:24:46,080
Speaker 4: to put in a claim on Joe Milton unless he

1816
01:24:46,160 --> 01:24:47,320
Speaker 4: lights it up in the preseason.

1817
01:24:47,360 --> 01:24:53,000
Speaker 1: I just don't see that happening. It's got a big arm.

1818
01:24:53,360 --> 01:24:55,800
Speaker 3: The tough drill for the defense on this one, it's

1819
01:24:55,800 --> 01:24:59,479
Speaker 3: basically you're trying to do a flag football move here.

1820
01:25:00,080 --> 01:25:02,160
Speaker 1: Look oh yeah, you're just.

1821
01:25:02,120 --> 01:25:05,160
Speaker 4: Working on the leverage, yeah, of funneling to your help

1822
01:25:05,520 --> 01:25:08,400
Speaker 4: if you're the defensive player. So whether it's the sideline,

1823
01:25:08,400 --> 01:25:10,559
Speaker 4: you're trying to use the sideline as an extra defender,

1824
01:25:10,680 --> 01:25:12,600
Speaker 4: or you have you know, team meeting coming back the

1825
01:25:12,680 --> 01:25:14,360
Speaker 4: other way, you're just trying to angle the guy the

1826
01:25:14,439 --> 01:25:16,479
Speaker 4: right way that you want him to go. They usue

1827
01:25:16,520 --> 01:25:17,760
Speaker 4: this drill with Bill all the time.

1828
01:25:17,880 --> 01:25:19,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, we need this drill in flag football. So I

1829
01:25:19,840 --> 01:25:25,560
Speaker 1: need eleven year olds don't really grasp the concept of

1830
01:25:25,640 --> 01:25:26,400
Speaker 1: the leverage.

1831
01:25:28,840 --> 01:25:30,960
Speaker 8: Paul wants to know one of the odds. The Patriots

1832
01:25:31,000 --> 01:25:32,679
Speaker 8: signed a veteran left tackle.

1833
01:25:33,600 --> 01:25:37,800
Speaker 4: How good, Bob, Yeah, very I think their veteran left

1834
01:25:37,800 --> 01:25:40,519
Speaker 4: tackles chooks a corps for I know everybody wants it

1835
01:25:40,560 --> 01:25:43,679
Speaker 4: to be a better player or more natural left tackle,

1836
01:25:43,760 --> 01:25:46,920
Speaker 4: but they have signed a veteran left tackle in their mind,

1837
01:25:46,960 --> 01:25:47,800
Speaker 4: and that's who it is.

1838
01:25:50,120 --> 01:25:53,479
Speaker 1: Yeah. That's the great experiment because it doesn't really seem

1839
01:25:53,520 --> 01:25:57,200
Speaker 1: like anybody else is really close at this point. Yeah,

1840
01:25:57,240 --> 01:25:59,639
Speaker 1: because you've seen like Calvini Anderson back over there getting

1841
01:25:59,680 --> 01:26:03,480
Speaker 1: some rap. He's an interesting one.

1842
01:26:04,320 --> 01:26:07,040
Speaker 4: I still I don't know when you go through what

1843
01:26:07,080 --> 01:26:10,000
Speaker 4: he went through with his health and all that, that's

1844
01:26:10,040 --> 01:26:12,559
Speaker 4: really difficult to then make yourself back into an NFL

1845
01:26:12,600 --> 01:26:16,679
Speaker 4: player after that. But he's got the athleticism for this offense,

1846
01:26:16,720 --> 01:26:19,559
Speaker 4: and you do wonder if he can get himself mentically

1847
01:26:19,600 --> 01:26:21,840
Speaker 4: and physically together, if he could make a push.

1848
01:26:21,920 --> 01:26:23,160
Speaker 1: I mean, we had the call. That's so they don't

1849
01:26:23,160 --> 01:26:26,000
Speaker 1: have an NFL left tackle he I mean, Calvin Erst

1850
01:26:26,000 --> 01:26:28,320
Speaker 1: has probably played the most left tackle snaps of anybody

1851
01:26:28,479 --> 01:26:30,960
Speaker 1: on the roster. I mean he has I don't know.

1852
01:26:31,439 --> 01:26:33,720
Speaker 1: I want to say he's got at least a dozen games.

1853
01:26:34,040 --> 01:26:37,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, he started I think seven in his last year

1854
01:26:37,360 --> 01:26:40,320
Speaker 4: in Denver, and it was it was the back end

1855
01:26:40,320 --> 01:26:43,000
Speaker 4: of the schedule and he played down the stretch for them,

1856
01:26:43,400 --> 01:26:45,800
Speaker 4: and I think he missed a few games at the end,

1857
01:26:45,800 --> 01:26:47,920
Speaker 4: so it might have been more like a middle type thing.

1858
01:26:48,040 --> 01:26:52,000
Speaker 4: But he definitely does in terms of natural left tackle

1859
01:26:52,040 --> 01:26:52,840
Speaker 4: snaps for sure.

1860
01:26:54,520 --> 01:26:58,800
Speaker 1: All Right, he had a seven on seven like red

1861
01:26:58,880 --> 01:27:06,760
Speaker 1: zone sevens seventies given Taekwon as many chances as it

1862
01:27:06,840 --> 01:27:15,200
Speaker 1: can two, three and eleven for set a quarterback boy, Yeah,

1863
01:27:15,280 --> 01:27:20,840
Speaker 1: round page with Taekwon. That was a throw to No One.

1864
01:27:22,479 --> 01:27:23,920
Speaker 1: He broke the old pomp broke.

1865
01:27:24,120 --> 01:27:27,719
Speaker 4: Yeah, Jacoby thought he should have broken out. I'm gonna

1866
01:27:27,720 --> 01:27:29,520
Speaker 4: go with Jacoby on this one.

1867
01:27:30,160 --> 01:27:32,160
Speaker 1: Well, and I mean, look, I'm not going to kill

1868
01:27:32,200 --> 01:27:35,240
Speaker 1: the guy for two plays, but like you know, these

1869
01:27:35,240 --> 01:27:37,400
Speaker 1: are the plays we talked about with him. With some momentum,

1870
01:27:37,400 --> 01:27:40,439
Speaker 1: he's got to drop. He's got a miscommunication. Like all

1871
01:27:40,439 --> 01:27:42,000
Speaker 1: these little things kind of add up.

1872
01:27:42,160 --> 01:27:44,280
Speaker 4: This is what he's been, This is this is who

1873
01:27:44,280 --> 01:27:48,600
Speaker 4: he is. You see his speed. It plays, but it

1874
01:27:48,720 --> 01:27:49,959
Speaker 4: just isn't consistent.

1875
01:27:50,600 --> 01:27:53,080
Speaker 1: Almost a nice set showing up the seam, could not

1876
01:27:53,160 --> 01:28:00,840
Speaker 1: quite connect with Austin Hooper. Coverage by Gonzo all over him.

1877
01:28:01,840 --> 01:28:03,840
Speaker 1: House Hunter Henry looked pretty good.

1878
01:28:03,920 --> 01:28:06,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, he had a couple of catches and sevens. Yeah,

1879
01:28:06,200 --> 01:28:08,960
Speaker 4: it's just been mister Hunter Henry, you know, mister reliable,

1880
01:28:09,040 --> 01:28:12,200
Speaker 4: always in the right spots and always confident. He did

1881
01:28:12,200 --> 01:28:13,800
Speaker 4: pretty well in the one of the few guys I

1882
01:28:13,840 --> 01:28:16,040
Speaker 4: thought last week that stood out in the red zone

1883
01:28:16,120 --> 01:28:19,439
Speaker 4: drills offensively, just consistent.

1884
01:28:19,680 --> 01:28:22,600
Speaker 1: Yep. Yeah, great resigning and it's just no brainer to

1885
01:28:22,640 --> 01:28:26,960
Speaker 1: bring him back considering the other options out there. We'll

1886
01:28:27,000 --> 01:28:29,519
Speaker 1: see Hoop Hooper's going to bring, you know, a few

1887
01:28:29,560 --> 01:28:31,280
Speaker 1: years now. I'm looking for that second tight end to

1888
01:28:31,400 --> 01:28:35,760
Speaker 1: kind of offer some complimentary play. Just didn't get it

1889
01:28:35,760 --> 01:28:37,080
Speaker 1: out of John U or GASICKI.

1890
01:28:38,200 --> 01:28:41,000
Speaker 8: I gotta say, guys, this little drill is and instilling

1891
01:28:41,040 --> 01:28:42,479
Speaker 8: a lot of confidence.

1892
01:28:42,000 --> 01:28:45,360
Speaker 1: In the offense. No. Seven on seven is a little

1893
01:28:45,439 --> 01:28:46,439
Speaker 1: balls hit in the ground.

1894
01:28:46,680 --> 01:28:51,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, we've got three straight in completions now and two

1895
01:28:51,120 --> 01:28:53,439
Speaker 4: to Austin Hooper. He has been getting some one on

1896
01:28:53,439 --> 01:28:55,720
Speaker 4: one coverage and they've been tilting it a little bit

1897
01:28:55,760 --> 01:28:58,040
Speaker 4: towards Hunter Henry here in the red zone and I've

1898
01:28:58,040 --> 01:28:59,680
Speaker 4: been trying to get it to Hooper and it is

1899
01:28:59,760 --> 01:29:05,760
Speaker 4: not on. Well, this is why I know I keep

1900
01:29:06,439 --> 01:29:10,439
Speaker 4: harping this. But they're not going to be an offense.

1901
01:29:10,479 --> 01:29:12,479
Speaker 4: I don't think in these type spaces that are going

1902
01:29:12,520 --> 01:29:15,000
Speaker 4: to create a lot of immediate separation.

1903
01:29:15,479 --> 01:29:17,360
Speaker 1: So they just have a quarterback back there.

1904
01:29:17,200 --> 01:29:19,639
Speaker 4: That can extend the play and can be a threat

1905
01:29:19,680 --> 01:29:21,559
Speaker 4: with his legs a little bit. I just feel like

1906
01:29:21,600 --> 01:29:23,479
Speaker 4: it would be such a benefit to them.

1907
01:29:23,680 --> 01:29:26,400
Speaker 1: Nice, nice route there by Jalen Polk. Yeah, and that

1908
01:29:26,439 --> 01:29:27,639
Speaker 1: ball was right on target.

1909
01:29:27,800 --> 01:29:29,920
Speaker 8: It was really nice passed by the next set.

1910
01:29:30,320 --> 01:29:32,800
Speaker 4: That's the that's what you want to see from Jalen Polk.

1911
01:29:32,840 --> 01:29:34,719
Speaker 4: Those are the routes that I feel like he's gonna

1912
01:29:35,240 --> 01:29:38,360
Speaker 4: be really good onto those quick speed outs.

1913
01:29:38,439 --> 01:29:42,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's good play there.

1914
01:29:43,680 --> 01:29:48,760
Speaker 4: It's like Javon Baker's watching. Yeah, this guy's helmet, but

1915
01:29:49,960 --> 01:29:50,759
Speaker 4: it's too bad.

1916
01:29:55,400 --> 01:29:57,360
Speaker 8: Of the nice past the opposite side by.

1917
01:29:59,040 --> 01:29:59,160
Speaker 10: Him.

1918
01:29:59,200 --> 01:30:02,200
Speaker 1: It's got those quick outs, Yeah, quick out of the

1919
01:30:02,200 --> 01:30:05,200
Speaker 1: taekwon there and could uh good catch by him, got

1920
01:30:05,200 --> 01:30:11,840
Speaker 1: his feet in so he looked quick there eleven and

1921
01:30:11,920 --> 01:30:12,439
Speaker 1: we're back in.

1922
01:30:13,000 --> 01:30:13,559
Speaker 8: We're back here.

1923
01:30:17,040 --> 01:30:18,920
Speaker 1: No, but I mean he does have that talent that

1924
01:30:19,360 --> 01:30:22,040
Speaker 1: you know, there's just a not a ton of guys

1925
01:30:22,040 --> 01:30:24,880
Speaker 1: out here with with elite speed or elite explosion and

1926
01:30:25,120 --> 01:30:27,160
Speaker 1: and he's definitely one of them in the right moments.

1927
01:30:27,520 --> 01:30:29,760
Speaker 4: It always stands out this time of year with him

1928
01:30:31,439 --> 01:30:35,519
Speaker 4: and the speed it is all that package is there

1929
01:30:35,720 --> 01:30:37,920
Speaker 4: and in this offense, there's a role for that. But

1930
01:30:38,520 --> 01:30:40,520
Speaker 4: if he's not more consistent with it.

1931
01:30:40,040 --> 01:30:44,960
Speaker 8: There's a lot of people complimenting your glasses. Andrew in

1932
01:30:45,120 --> 01:30:48,000
Speaker 8: La says, you're looking like mister big shot Hollywood producer

1933
01:30:48,040 --> 01:30:50,240
Speaker 8: in that high back share with your cool shades on.

1934
01:30:51,000 --> 01:30:52,880
Speaker 8: Does your chair have your name on the back of it?

1935
01:30:53,040 --> 01:30:56,080
Speaker 7: Du Yeah, they're complimenting his glasses.

1936
01:30:56,120 --> 01:30:57,240
Speaker 1: This is a cheap mask glus.

1937
01:30:57,400 --> 01:30:58,599
Speaker 7: But to me it's the polo.

1938
01:30:58,680 --> 01:31:02,840
Speaker 1: No really, I know it's it's nice North Carolina colors.

1939
01:31:03,320 --> 01:31:05,880
Speaker 1: Oh shoot, I didn't even think of that. To Drake

1940
01:31:06,000 --> 01:31:09,920
Speaker 1: never again match Paul last week with his yeah, what

1941
01:31:10,000 --> 01:31:10,439
Speaker 1: was up with that?

1942
01:31:10,600 --> 01:31:12,080
Speaker 4: Is this kid going there or something like?

1943
01:31:12,600 --> 01:31:14,920
Speaker 1: It's the whole story. He just loves Drake Ma so much.

1944
01:31:15,640 --> 01:31:16,800
Speaker 1: I was the one that.

1945
01:31:16,840 --> 01:31:19,800
Speaker 4: Was well last year was l s U Right, he

1946
01:31:19,800 --> 01:31:22,200
Speaker 4: does have an l follow He was but it was

1947
01:31:22,280 --> 01:31:23,439
Speaker 4: head to toe and from.

1948
01:31:23,240 --> 01:31:24,760
Speaker 1: His illustrious travels.

1949
01:31:26,080 --> 01:31:30,560
Speaker 8: Drake may Oh Paul has sports clothing like gr animals,

1950
01:31:30,640 --> 01:31:32,920
Speaker 8: you know, like he does wherever he picks it up right.

1951
01:31:32,960 --> 01:31:35,320
Speaker 7: Yeah, to be fair, though, he did go a lot

1952
01:31:35,360 --> 01:31:36,679
Speaker 7: on a lot of school trips.

1953
01:31:36,880 --> 01:31:40,040
Speaker 1: Yeah with his son. Yeah, was that rager that he'd gone. Yes,

1954
01:31:40,080 --> 01:31:48,920
Speaker 1: it was nice to go by the drake. He's got

1955
01:31:48,920 --> 01:31:55,519
Speaker 1: some zip man, he steps into it. That's what's just

1956
01:31:55,520 --> 01:31:57,040
Speaker 1: so nice. Like I think with Mac the last couple

1957
01:31:57,040 --> 01:31:58,559
Speaker 1: of years, like every kind of throw he made in

1958
01:31:58,560 --> 01:31:59,479
Speaker 1: the back of your head, you're like.

1959
01:31:59,479 --> 01:32:00,280
Speaker 8: Was that a hardrow?

1960
01:32:00,360 --> 01:32:02,200
Speaker 1: He's got a good arm, Like you're always kind of questioning,

1961
01:32:02,240 --> 01:32:04,720
Speaker 1: and like it's nice to not to think about that.

1962
01:32:04,800 --> 01:32:07,760
Speaker 4: Even the one he threw earlier in the back of

1963
01:32:07,760 --> 01:32:13,439
Speaker 4: the end zone right there, we can just wrap it up.

1964
01:32:14,479 --> 01:32:18,120
Speaker 1: He made that one look easy waste and everybody's tend

1965
01:32:18,160 --> 01:32:21,960
Speaker 1: to eighty eight for a tuddy. That was the rookie

1966
01:32:22,479 --> 01:32:24,400
Speaker 1: jem belt. There was a lot of traffic there. If

1967
01:32:24,760 --> 01:32:25,599
Speaker 1: that was too low.

1968
01:32:25,920 --> 01:32:28,200
Speaker 4: I've seen him make that throw at North Carolina one

1969
01:32:28,280 --> 01:32:31,560
Speaker 4: hundred times. That's his up the seams, anything between the

1970
01:32:31,640 --> 01:32:34,280
Speaker 4: numbers where he can just rip it. That's his bread

1971
01:32:34,280 --> 01:32:37,719
Speaker 4: and butter right there. Yeah, it's just it's so natural

1972
01:32:37,760 --> 01:32:39,800
Speaker 4: for him to read the middle of the field. Out

1973
01:32:39,800 --> 01:32:42,320
Speaker 4: of all the quarterbacks that I've watched over the last

1974
01:32:42,360 --> 01:32:45,360
Speaker 4: four or five years, his ability to read the middle

1975
01:32:45,360 --> 01:32:47,560
Speaker 4: of the field and make throws like layered throws like

1976
01:32:47,600 --> 01:32:50,240
Speaker 4: that one with little anticipation. He's one of the best

1977
01:32:50,280 --> 01:32:51,799
Speaker 4: I've ever seen at in college.

1978
01:32:51,840 --> 01:32:54,280
Speaker 8: And would you agree that Mack had trouble with those.

1979
01:32:54,520 --> 01:32:58,000
Speaker 1: In terms of our talenty? Yeah, tough for man.

1980
01:32:58,160 --> 01:33:06,840
Speaker 8: Yep, all right, Mac, nice route, Sean Boody all right,

1981
01:33:06,920 --> 01:33:07,720
Speaker 8: looking better now?

1982
01:33:08,800 --> 01:33:12,120
Speaker 1: Why nice period for Mac? Joe, Sorry, he.

1983
01:33:12,120 --> 01:33:13,320
Speaker 7: Has a chance to make the roster.

1984
01:33:13,880 --> 01:33:17,120
Speaker 4: Mac Drake may the boy the booty, Yeah, he's on

1985
01:33:17,200 --> 01:33:17,679
Speaker 4: my bubble.

1986
01:33:18,120 --> 01:33:21,519
Speaker 1: I think booty bubble. I think booty, Yeah, good booty.

1987
01:33:21,880 --> 01:33:25,519
Speaker 4: Taekwon and Jalen Rager and I guess you could throw

1988
01:33:25,600 --> 01:33:28,000
Speaker 4: Juju in there too, are kind of all in this

1989
01:33:28,000 --> 01:33:30,920
Speaker 4: this one big bubble wide receiver.

1990
01:33:32,439 --> 01:33:35,559
Speaker 6: I couldn't have them all like in the same line, though.

1991
01:33:35,600 --> 01:33:37,680
Speaker 6: I feel like there's a tear even in the bubble.

1992
01:33:37,479 --> 01:33:40,000
Speaker 4: Probably a little bit. And I think kJ Osborne is

1993
01:33:40,080 --> 01:33:41,280
Speaker 4: like on the top of the bubble.

1994
01:33:41,439 --> 01:33:42,200
Speaker 1: Maybe you know.

1995
01:33:44,680 --> 01:33:49,559
Speaker 3: Zappia look, look right, then came back to the middle

1996
01:33:49,600 --> 01:33:51,759
Speaker 3: and zipped it in to the end zone.

1997
01:33:52,960 --> 01:33:57,360
Speaker 1: Nice nice pass by zap Now they, I mean, it's

1998
01:33:57,400 --> 01:34:00,840
Speaker 1: a really interesting point Tamara about just that whole wide

1999
01:34:00,880 --> 01:34:03,719
Speaker 1: receiver group, like how does it all play out and

2000
01:34:03,840 --> 01:34:06,920
Speaker 1: does one guy get hurt or you know Seven's point,

2001
01:34:06,920 --> 01:34:08,600
Speaker 1: how long does it take Born to get back? Like

2002
01:34:08,600 --> 01:34:11,840
Speaker 1: what are they thinking with him? And even guys like Booty,

2003
01:34:11,880 --> 01:34:14,479
Speaker 1: I mean, he's still got practice squad eligibility, you know

2004
01:34:14,560 --> 01:34:17,960
Speaker 1: they But to me, the big questions are are eleven

2005
01:34:18,000 --> 01:34:23,040
Speaker 1: and seven. You know, two guys that it's wild that

2006
01:34:23,280 --> 01:34:27,480
Speaker 1: you've invested in draft picks.

2007
01:34:26,080 --> 01:34:29,360
Speaker 4: The highest paid receiver on this team, and he's the

2008
01:34:29,360 --> 01:34:32,960
Speaker 4: biggest question was he's the biggest If money was not

2009
01:34:33,040 --> 01:34:35,720
Speaker 4: an object, he doesn't make the roster. The only way

2010
01:34:35,760 --> 01:34:38,080
Speaker 4: he's on this team is is because they don't want

2011
01:34:38,120 --> 01:34:39,120
Speaker 4: to eat the dead cap and.

2012
01:34:39,360 --> 01:34:41,160
Speaker 7: Money was not an object, he'd be already gone with.

2013
01:34:42,040 --> 01:34:46,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I mean to be you know, totally honest,

2014
01:34:46,280 --> 01:34:48,200
Speaker 1: Like I know we said he was much more healthy,

2015
01:34:48,280 --> 01:34:50,680
Speaker 1: Like I don't really see him moving much different than

2016
01:34:50,920 --> 01:34:54,840
Speaker 1: he did before. He's let me ask the purpose strider. Okay,

2017
01:34:54,920 --> 01:34:57,800
Speaker 1: he's not a likes you know.

2018
01:34:57,840 --> 01:34:59,639
Speaker 7: He's not Pittsburgh Juju anymore.

2019
01:35:00,640 --> 01:35:05,360
Speaker 1: That's definitely gone.

2020
01:35:01,600 --> 01:35:08,280
Speaker 4: That's what Polk's gonna do, right, I mean, the hands

2021
01:35:08,320 --> 01:35:10,920
Speaker 4: are on display there. You just throw it to him

2022
01:35:10,920 --> 01:35:13,639
Speaker 4: and he might look covered, but he's he's got excellent hands.

2023
01:35:13,880 --> 01:35:16,799
Speaker 4: And that's exactly what that was. That was Washington, Julie.

2024
01:35:16,600 --> 01:35:18,800
Speaker 1: And that was a good throw by Zappy. Yeah, yep.

2025
01:35:21,160 --> 01:35:23,240
Speaker 1: Some of the seven stuff's a little late, but yeah,

2026
01:35:23,479 --> 01:35:25,439
Speaker 1: ball needed to be zipped in and he did it.

2027
01:35:25,800 --> 01:35:28,280
Speaker 4: A couple of catches here for Polk, probably his most

2028
01:35:28,320 --> 01:35:31,400
Speaker 4: noticeable practice, but that catch right there at the back

2029
01:35:31,439 --> 01:35:33,840
Speaker 4: of the end zone, that's the vintage Jalen Polk right there.

2030
01:35:34,120 --> 01:35:34,599
Speaker 1: Good size.

2031
01:35:34,640 --> 01:35:36,719
Speaker 8: Head coach Gerrod Mayo bringing the team.

2032
01:35:36,520 --> 01:35:38,679
Speaker 1: In probably an hour and twenty in, we already done.

2033
01:35:38,680 --> 01:35:39,600
Speaker 1: What are we doing? I don't know.

2034
01:35:39,640 --> 01:35:41,519
Speaker 3: Well, sometimes they bring it in, then they go out

2035
01:35:41,560 --> 01:35:45,400
Speaker 3: and do a few more things. Let's see what's going

2036
01:35:45,439 --> 01:35:58,120
Speaker 3: on here, quick talk. Whatever it was, doesn't look anyone's

2037
01:35:58,160 --> 01:36:00,240
Speaker 3: in a hurry to leave, so they're probably go to

2038
01:36:00,240 --> 01:36:02,519
Speaker 3: do another period period ten.

2039
01:36:02,800 --> 01:36:05,040
Speaker 1: Some words of wisdom from the head coach here as

2040
01:36:05,040 --> 01:36:09,360
Speaker 1: we maybe trying to ramp up the intensity a little

2041
01:36:09,360 --> 01:36:11,400
Speaker 1: bit here. It seems like it's gonna be uh some

2042
01:36:11,479 --> 01:36:12,759
Speaker 1: eleven's work again here.

2043
01:36:13,479 --> 01:36:15,840
Speaker 8: So now the refs are here, Okay have they been?

2044
01:36:17,080 --> 01:36:18,680
Speaker 8: They haven't been calling anything yet, right.

2045
01:36:18,760 --> 01:36:21,760
Speaker 4: I saw one flag over digit my off side, I

2046
01:36:21,760 --> 01:36:24,679
Speaker 4: think it was. But this seems like we're as live

2047
01:36:24,720 --> 01:36:26,479
Speaker 4: as we can be this time of year as well.

2048
01:36:26,520 --> 01:36:27,920
Speaker 4: We're maybe that huddle was.

2049
01:36:27,920 --> 01:36:30,000
Speaker 1: About let's pick it up.

2050
01:36:30,040 --> 01:36:32,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, let's do it.

2051
01:36:32,720 --> 01:36:38,400
Speaker 1: No music, all right, there's my music? Come on, yeah

2052
01:36:38,439 --> 01:36:43,080
Speaker 1: there it is nice kidding. Let's see who comes out

2053
01:36:43,080 --> 01:36:50,719
Speaker 1: here from the office. Right, all right, so a little

2054
01:36:50,720 --> 01:36:52,840
Speaker 1: flayer for the d I know, no got cha out there,

2055
01:36:52,840 --> 01:36:57,960
Speaker 1: but does seem a little bit more down. We're set

2056
01:36:58,000 --> 01:37:07,080
Speaker 1: in there, eleven on eleven I think gets excited to

2057
01:37:07,120 --> 01:37:10,360
Speaker 1: see Marty mop who play some linebacker snaps here? All right,

2058
01:37:10,400 --> 01:37:12,120
Speaker 1: so we got there. We're going like hurry up here.

2059
01:37:12,120 --> 01:37:16,760
Speaker 1: This seems probably like any game situation. Defense really trying

2060
01:37:16,800 --> 01:37:21,120
Speaker 1: to rush the passer. We have multiple free safeties out

2061
01:37:21,120 --> 01:37:21,720
Speaker 1: there with mo.

2062
01:37:21,920 --> 01:37:24,920
Speaker 4: Okay, we're trying to I wasn't sure if they were

2063
01:37:25,000 --> 01:37:27,360
Speaker 4: letting them catch it just yet, you know, yeah, yeah.

2064
01:37:27,960 --> 01:37:31,280
Speaker 3: Now, now if you guys are running this practice in

2065
01:37:31,800 --> 01:37:36,400
Speaker 3: this period in particular, would you run your sideline the

2066
01:37:36,439 --> 01:37:38,200
Speaker 3: way you do in a game, in other words, get

2067
01:37:38,280 --> 01:37:43,439
Speaker 3: guys used to being off the field, you know they

2068
01:37:43,439 --> 01:37:44,120
Speaker 3: would in a game.

2069
01:37:44,200 --> 01:37:46,560
Speaker 1: Well, if you're able to switch personnel, I mean, I

2070
01:37:46,560 --> 01:37:48,600
Speaker 1: don't know if this drill, if they're if they're you know,

2071
01:37:48,760 --> 01:37:51,400
Speaker 1: able to rotate guys in and out or not. But yeah,

2072
01:37:51,400 --> 01:37:53,240
Speaker 1: I mean I think anytime you're trying to do this stuff,

2073
01:37:53,640 --> 01:37:56,080
Speaker 1: I mean i'd be trying to do in game situation.

2074
01:37:56,200 --> 01:37:58,040
Speaker 1: And yeah, I mean that's what it's always should be

2075
01:37:58,040 --> 01:37:58,599
Speaker 1: geared towards.

2076
01:37:58,600 --> 01:38:07,360
Speaker 11: But there's no way this much the throw Oh yeah, sure,

2077
01:38:07,479 --> 01:38:12,559
Speaker 11: drop ugly ugly, ugly rep off the shoulder pads who

2078
01:38:12,600 --> 01:38:13,439
Speaker 11: was a Douglas Y.

2079
01:38:14,120 --> 01:38:20,760
Speaker 1: Yeah? Really late, I mean hard to know. I mean

2080
01:38:20,800 --> 01:38:22,479
Speaker 1: it's just I know we're early.

2081
01:38:22,720 --> 01:38:25,960
Speaker 4: I know we're early, But at some point I gotta

2082
01:38:26,040 --> 01:38:28,400
Speaker 4: give Drake some reps against the first team defense and

2083
01:38:28,439 --> 01:38:32,120
Speaker 4: see what he does. Because last seven on seven period

2084
01:38:32,840 --> 01:38:34,439
Speaker 4: he kind of lit it up a little bit.

2085
01:38:35,320 --> 01:38:36,920
Speaker 7: He wasn'tgainst the first team at least once.

2086
01:38:37,280 --> 01:38:40,880
Speaker 4: I just these periods, he's full eleven on elevens. I'm

2087
01:38:40,880 --> 01:38:43,200
Speaker 4: not saying it has to be this extended. Period of

2088
01:38:43,240 --> 01:38:45,839
Speaker 4: time that he gets twenty reps against the first team defense.

2089
01:38:45,920 --> 01:38:48,920
Speaker 4: But I'd like to see a couple because this is

2090
01:38:49,080 --> 01:38:51,040
Speaker 4: just I mean, this is not so.

2091
01:38:51,040 --> 01:38:54,519
Speaker 8: Close behind picked up in the air and almost picked

2092
01:38:54,520 --> 01:38:57,000
Speaker 8: off by It looks like Duggar.

2093
01:38:57,240 --> 01:39:00,320
Speaker 4: Yeah it was Christian Gonzalez had the initial cut Ridge

2094
01:39:00,320 --> 01:39:02,000
Speaker 4: on kJ board Osborne.

2095
01:39:02,439 --> 01:39:05,840
Speaker 1: Yeah that ball was late, nothing doing nothing doing on offense.

2096
01:39:06,360 --> 01:39:12,160
Speaker 8: Let's themlazarre calling for Drake man.

2097
01:39:12,720 --> 01:39:15,040
Speaker 4: I've been calling for Drake masonce A falling on deaf

2098
01:39:15,080 --> 01:39:16,120
Speaker 4: ears man.

2099
01:39:16,880 --> 01:39:18,920
Speaker 1: I just want to see what it looks like. That's it.

2100
01:39:18,920 --> 01:39:21,040
Speaker 4: It's not It's not to say that he's gonna start

2101
01:39:21,040 --> 01:39:23,400
Speaker 4: Week one because we gave him ten reps in practice

2102
01:39:23,800 --> 01:39:24,439
Speaker 4: Q the ones.

2103
01:39:24,600 --> 01:39:28,000
Speaker 1: But yeah, Drake was standing over next to eight.

2104
01:39:28,520 --> 01:39:30,759
Speaker 3: He certainly has more tread on the tire than Brissett

2105
01:39:30,800 --> 01:39:33,200
Speaker 3: and Ridge Stone is the official tire of the New

2106
01:39:33,200 --> 01:39:37,080
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2107
01:39:37,080 --> 01:39:41,680
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2108
01:39:41,720 --> 01:39:46,680
Speaker 3: find a location near you.

2109
01:39:46,800 --> 01:39:51,519
Speaker 1: Gotta get those tires ready for the summer. I got

2110
01:39:51,520 --> 01:39:54,880
Speaker 1: to get few tires asphalt, you know, what's that I

2111
01:39:54,920 --> 01:40:04,879
Speaker 1: need a new times that's a whoa whoa, whoa whoa Okay, okay, okay,

2112
01:40:07,040 --> 01:40:08,680
Speaker 1: and I think he can give it to him, so

2113
01:40:08,760 --> 01:40:12,320
Speaker 1: catch by Douglas, but that would have been a sack. Bye.

2114
01:40:12,760 --> 01:40:15,400
Speaker 4: There's definitely this is what we've seen in eleven on

2115
01:40:15,479 --> 01:40:19,280
Speaker 4: eleven's the pressure. There's just been some run throughs again

2116
01:40:19,320 --> 01:40:23,120
Speaker 4: here today that counted maybe three or four what Chakoiber

2117
01:40:23,240 --> 01:40:28,840
Speaker 4: said so far that in a game that's at least

2118
01:40:28,840 --> 01:40:31,000
Speaker 4: a pressure, a quarterback hit, if not a sack.

2119
01:40:31,280 --> 01:40:32,479
Speaker 1: And Bentley just came through.

2120
01:40:33,080 --> 01:40:35,200
Speaker 4: It's kind of hard to tell when it happens as fast,

2121
01:40:35,240 --> 01:40:37,880
Speaker 4: you know, how how he came through, But he'd looked

2122
01:40:37,920 --> 01:40:39,559
Speaker 4: untouched if he asked me.

2123
01:40:40,400 --> 01:40:43,559
Speaker 1: Well, you can't really touch himself, tagging him off. All right,

2124
01:40:43,680 --> 01:40:46,559
Speaker 1: So we got ten is in now, and we got

2125
01:40:46,600 --> 01:40:47,759
Speaker 1: some backups on defense.

2126
01:40:47,880 --> 01:40:50,840
Speaker 4: Yeahah, you got you know, you can see Juju pol

2127
01:40:51,080 --> 01:40:52,559
Speaker 4: Antonio Gibson's with him.

2128
01:40:52,720 --> 01:40:55,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, so at least some guys that he can. But

2129
01:40:55,439 --> 01:40:57,680
Speaker 1: we're more concerned about who he's going up against.

2130
01:40:57,840 --> 01:40:59,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, and Rager. I mean, these are guys that

2131
01:41:00,280 --> 01:41:02,800
Speaker 4: they're probably gonna be around here though, So at least

2132
01:41:02,800 --> 01:41:04,639
Speaker 4: he's got some guys that throw to this time. Sometimes

2133
01:41:04,680 --> 01:41:06,519
Speaker 4: they throw them out there with like Kawan Baker and

2134
01:41:06,560 --> 01:41:10,519
Speaker 4: I'm like, good dude, guys, some favorites pressure. Yeah, that

2135
01:41:10,600 --> 01:41:11,200
Speaker 4: was ninety three.

2136
01:41:11,200 --> 01:41:26,479
Speaker 1: That's your guy ninety three around Wallace, Marcellus Wallace, Yeah, yes,

2137
01:41:27,360 --> 01:41:29,320
Speaker 1: Marcus Covingston calling the place. Did you guys say you

2138
01:41:29,320 --> 01:41:32,080
Speaker 1: saw Steve Belchick here? Ago, No, no, No, I mis spoke.

2139
01:41:32,760 --> 01:41:38,120
Speaker 1: It was Brian Jewels Jewels out there.

2140
01:41:40,240 --> 01:41:42,439
Speaker 4: Jewels does not strike me as the guy that wants

2141
01:41:42,479 --> 01:41:42,880
Speaker 4: to coach.

2142
01:41:43,960 --> 01:41:45,920
Speaker 1: Enjoy life weights podcasting. It's too fun.

2143
01:41:46,520 --> 01:41:49,519
Speaker 7: It's a lot easier in acting acting too.

2144
01:41:49,680 --> 01:41:59,280
Speaker 12: Yeah, right, Jake Man, Okay, caught it, but man, that's

2145
01:41:59,479 --> 01:42:01,000
Speaker 12: closing in around him quick.

2146
01:42:01,400 --> 01:42:04,040
Speaker 8: But I that was a good release for that situation.

2147
01:42:06,160 --> 01:42:06,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was.

2148
01:42:06,600 --> 01:42:07,080
Speaker 7: Gonna say that.

2149
01:42:07,120 --> 01:42:09,200
Speaker 6: I was gonna say like and not trying to compare

2150
01:42:09,280 --> 01:42:12,479
Speaker 6: him to Mac, but Mac in that situation he panicked.

2151
01:42:13,200 --> 01:42:20,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, Drake, I just checked broken play. The pressure is

2152
01:42:21,720 --> 01:42:32,439
Speaker 1: not been good in this team period here. So we

2153
01:42:32,520 --> 01:42:35,479
Speaker 1: had a couple of rookies here on the on the

2154
01:42:35,560 --> 01:42:37,840
Speaker 1: right side of the lane line with Leydon Robinson and

2155
01:42:37,920 --> 01:42:39,040
Speaker 1: King Wallace.

2156
01:42:41,320 --> 01:42:43,920
Speaker 4: In their defense and Fred you mentioned this a few times.

2157
01:42:43,920 --> 01:42:46,559
Speaker 4: You're not actually blocking guys right now. This is like

2158
01:42:46,600 --> 01:42:48,960
Speaker 4: setting up pick in basketball. Basically, you're just kind of

2159
01:42:49,000 --> 01:42:51,160
Speaker 4: getting in the way as best as you can.

2160
01:42:51,600 --> 01:42:54,640
Speaker 1: I it's it's I mean, they're at a disadvantage of

2161
01:42:55,240 --> 01:43:05,960
Speaker 1: speed kills here pick blitz pick up by Gibson. There

2162
01:43:06,000 --> 01:43:09,840
Speaker 1: you go. I looked like a play eighty three. A

2163
01:43:09,840 --> 01:43:15,960
Speaker 1: couple of cross rigers cross cut some balls today day.

2164
01:43:16,560 --> 01:43:19,000
Speaker 1: I think him and him and Douglas probably been the

2165
01:43:19,000 --> 01:43:20,400
Speaker 1: most involved. Yeah.

2166
01:43:20,479 --> 01:43:23,639
Speaker 4: A couple of nice catches for Jalen Polk. Yeah, yeah,

2167
01:43:23,640 --> 01:43:26,120
Speaker 4: I would agree Rager who had a few in that

2168
01:43:26,240 --> 01:43:27,600
Speaker 4: glass reds.

2169
01:43:28,160 --> 01:43:31,160
Speaker 1: So some guys that you wanted to hear about that.

2170
01:43:31,520 --> 01:43:38,200
Speaker 1: That made a couple of plays, all right, chake me

2171
01:43:38,479 --> 01:43:42,680
Speaker 1: back up. Yeah, Rager and Polk on the outside, you're

2172
01:43:42,680 --> 01:43:49,160
Speaker 1: doing the slot, give some of the backfield. Wilcox tight

2173
01:43:49,280 --> 01:43:57,599
Speaker 1: and left. Yeah, down the field, there's just no place

2174
01:43:57,600 --> 01:43:57,920
Speaker 1: to throw.

2175
01:43:58,280 --> 01:43:59,920
Speaker 3: Maybe a little bit of a push off on the

2176
01:44:00,080 --> 01:44:03,120
Speaker 3: offense to boot, but yeah, that had no shot.

2177
01:44:08,640 --> 01:44:10,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, it seemed like I don't know, it just seemed

2178
01:44:10,880 --> 01:44:12,320
Speaker 1: like you kind of threw that one. Really.

2179
01:44:12,520 --> 01:44:14,639
Speaker 4: He was trying to throw up back shoulder and those

2180
01:44:14,680 --> 01:44:18,120
Speaker 4: are low percentage, but for both sides, Like that's not

2181
01:44:18,160 --> 01:44:20,559
Speaker 4: going to be a turnover to just give a guy

2182
01:44:20,600 --> 01:44:21,840
Speaker 4: a chance to make a play on it.

2183
01:44:26,080 --> 01:44:28,880
Speaker 1: Mikey Victor holding up there at left corner. I haven't

2184
01:44:28,880 --> 01:44:35,559
Speaker 1: called his name yet today. Juju wearing football pants. Yeah,

2185
01:44:36,280 --> 01:44:38,120
Speaker 1: he practices in football pants.

2186
01:44:38,720 --> 01:44:40,040
Speaker 4: I've noticed that with him.

2187
01:44:40,280 --> 01:44:50,720
Speaker 1: Good support, right, yeah, Jake, I still going that way.

2188
01:44:50,840 --> 01:44:52,559
Speaker 8: They got that underneath stuff going.

2189
01:44:55,360 --> 01:44:57,439
Speaker 1: The theme of the last few camps.

2190
01:44:58,880 --> 01:45:03,519
Speaker 4: There working on protections up front. You can tell that

2191
01:45:03,600 --> 01:45:06,360
Speaker 4: the extra guy coming up block and they're running back

2192
01:45:06,439 --> 01:45:09,599
Speaker 4: is a sign to him. I wish we could see

2193
01:45:09,600 --> 01:45:12,720
Speaker 4: Antonio Gibson out of the backfield, but right now he's

2194
01:45:12,720 --> 01:45:13,479
Speaker 4: been in blitz.

2195
01:45:13,520 --> 01:45:18,720
Speaker 1: Pick up a lot, there go, there you go when

2196
01:45:18,760 --> 01:45:26,680
Speaker 1: you will receive fast to the flat short game now

2197
01:45:26,720 --> 01:45:29,839
Speaker 1: he's good. You're right though. It's probably a good mailback

2198
01:45:29,960 --> 01:45:33,120
Speaker 1: question for some running backs out there, like last year

2199
01:45:33,120 --> 01:45:36,280
Speaker 1: with Zeke that. Yeah, it's got to be a camp

2200
01:45:36,280 --> 01:45:37,880
Speaker 1: full of veteran guys that can play that are just

2201
01:45:37,960 --> 01:45:41,040
Speaker 1: kind of waiting. Seems like that happens every year now.

2202
01:45:41,200 --> 01:45:44,559
Speaker 1: So what kind of back would you like?

2203
01:45:45,400 --> 01:45:48,160
Speaker 4: Probably an early down guy, like a truer, you know,

2204
01:45:48,360 --> 01:45:52,120
Speaker 4: Seeke Elliot type to backup Formandre Gibbs is gonna play

2205
01:45:52,120 --> 01:45:54,960
Speaker 4: a lot, but it's it's that rex Burg head role.

2206
01:45:55,280 --> 01:45:56,000
Speaker 1: So perfect?

2207
01:45:58,640 --> 01:46:00,400
Speaker 8: Is that Remandre back there with him right now?

2208
01:46:00,600 --> 01:46:03,559
Speaker 1: That is thirty nine? I think that pressure? Yeah, oh

2209
01:46:03,600 --> 01:46:04,439
Speaker 1: into a party.

2210
01:46:04,680 --> 01:46:11,719
Speaker 10: Yeah, a lot of whistles like the rough calm timeout

2211
01:46:11,840 --> 01:46:12,160
Speaker 10: or something.

2212
01:46:13,000 --> 01:46:16,479
Speaker 1: Oh that's thirty nine okay, yeah pressure. Oh yeah, I

2213
01:46:16,479 --> 01:46:20,200
Speaker 1: mean that's you know, hasty, him and Kevin Harris, they've

2214
01:46:20,560 --> 01:46:23,559
Speaker 1: they've been involved a little bit, so I.

2215
01:46:23,560 --> 01:46:28,479
Speaker 4: Might get some ZAPPI reps. Now warming up the old arm? Yeah,

2216
01:46:28,479 --> 01:46:30,519
Speaker 4: that was a say that.

2217
01:46:30,439 --> 01:46:32,959
Speaker 7: Like he's like twenty seven years old, twenty.

2218
01:46:32,720 --> 01:46:33,240
Speaker 1: Eight years old.

2219
01:46:33,320 --> 01:46:35,760
Speaker 3: Just warm it up my arm. I'm in that commercial

2220
01:46:35,760 --> 01:46:39,800
Speaker 3: with Cam Newton. Now was it Cam Newton?

2221
01:46:39,840 --> 01:46:39,880
Speaker 6: That?

2222
01:46:40,120 --> 01:46:47,840
Speaker 1: Yeah? Is it just warming up my arm? It is?

2223
01:46:47,880 --> 01:46:51,880
Speaker 1: What are we supposed to go to too? Is that what's? Yeah?

2224
01:46:51,920 --> 01:46:54,479
Speaker 1: I would say, uh, now, this is kind of how

2225
01:46:54,520 --> 01:46:57,680
Speaker 1: it's looked for the offense. Soom you know, the clunkiness.

2226
01:46:57,720 --> 01:47:01,959
Speaker 1: It's just not a lot of this sharp downfield execution

2227
01:47:02,200 --> 01:47:03,559
Speaker 1: and there's no.

2228
01:47:05,200 --> 01:47:07,719
Speaker 8: You know, you watch these highlights from the other teams

2229
01:47:07,760 --> 01:47:10,720
Speaker 8: and they have that star wide receiver who you know

2230
01:47:10,840 --> 01:47:13,679
Speaker 8: once at least once a practice makes that big catch,

2231
01:47:14,240 --> 01:47:16,639
Speaker 8: you know, and we're not seeing that.

2232
01:47:16,640 --> 01:47:18,720
Speaker 6: But I thought a lot of those other teams are

2233
01:47:19,200 --> 01:47:22,400
Speaker 6: not installing a new offense and at.

2234
01:47:22,280 --> 01:47:22,960
Speaker 7: All these rookies.

2235
01:47:23,439 --> 01:47:26,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, and that's that's the great like debate of all

2236
01:47:26,000 --> 01:47:28,280
Speaker 1: these things, Like and it happens every year when you get.

2237
01:47:28,520 --> 01:47:33,559
Speaker 3: Oh and Zappi took Dougart just stepped in front of

2238
01:47:33,600 --> 01:47:36,240
Speaker 3: that pass, took it for six.

2239
01:47:36,720 --> 01:47:40,880
Speaker 4: That was an extremely smooth looking play by Kyle Duggart. Yeah,

2240
01:47:40,920 --> 01:47:42,720
Speaker 4: he just made it look that that was like he

2241
01:47:42,760 --> 01:47:43,639
Speaker 4: was riding a bike.

2242
01:47:44,000 --> 01:47:46,559
Speaker 1: He baited him into that the whole way. Yeah, jeez,

2243
01:47:47,120 --> 01:47:51,360
Speaker 1: it's like Gonzales there. But back to the point, like

2244
01:47:51,400 --> 01:47:53,639
Speaker 1: that's every year when we get into training camp and

2245
01:47:53,680 --> 01:47:55,559
Speaker 1: you know, look, most of the time, the defense is

2246
01:47:55,560 --> 01:47:57,960
Speaker 1: going to be ahead of the offense and you know,

2247
01:47:58,240 --> 01:48:01,840
Speaker 1: you can't really run, so you you're watching run periods,

2248
01:48:01,880 --> 01:48:04,200
Speaker 1: but the defense is kind of owning it. You know.

2249
01:48:04,640 --> 01:48:07,080
Speaker 1: It's so and like you said, there's it's a new offense,

2250
01:48:07,120 --> 01:48:10,120
Speaker 1: there's new pieces, and you know it's a I always

2251
01:48:10,280 --> 01:48:12,120
Speaker 1: err on that side of It's it's harder to get

2252
01:48:12,160 --> 01:48:14,280
Speaker 1: an offense off the ground than it is for the defense,

2253
01:48:14,400 --> 01:48:17,400
Speaker 1: especially one Milton a bunch of new guys returning to

2254
01:48:17,479 --> 01:48:20,240
Speaker 1: hop in there and you know, make life miserable, especially

2255
01:48:20,240 --> 01:48:22,799
Speaker 1: when you have aggressive play callers like the Patriots defensive

2256
01:48:22,840 --> 01:48:26,639
Speaker 1: coaches have been Joe Milton alert. But at a certain

2257
01:48:26,640 --> 01:48:28,840
Speaker 1: point you've got to see some plays like just you

2258
01:48:28,920 --> 01:48:31,160
Speaker 1: got to see some execution downfield. You've got to see

2259
01:48:31,200 --> 01:48:34,320
Speaker 1: some some moments of guys shaking loose and the quarterback

2260
01:48:34,360 --> 01:48:37,479
Speaker 1: hitting them and stride. Those moments have been few.

2261
01:48:37,680 --> 01:48:42,519
Speaker 4: It's been tough where the the actual scheme stuff like

2262
01:48:42,800 --> 01:48:45,680
Speaker 4: hitting it on time, and I just feel like with

2263
01:48:45,760 --> 01:48:48,640
Speaker 4: this offense right now, with I think Fred's points, the

2264
01:48:48,680 --> 01:48:51,080
Speaker 4: best one is if you don't have those receivers that

2265
01:48:51,160 --> 01:48:53,160
Speaker 4: in structure are just going to get open on their

2266
01:48:53,160 --> 01:48:56,160
Speaker 4: own and create those plays, then the quarterback is the

2267
01:48:56,160 --> 01:48:58,920
Speaker 4: one that has to end up being the athlete or

2268
01:48:58,920 --> 01:49:01,719
Speaker 4: the elevator, I guess is the better way of putting

2269
01:49:01,800 --> 01:49:04,280
Speaker 4: it of it all and I just don't see that

2270
01:49:04,320 --> 01:49:06,719
Speaker 4: with Er said, it's not that he's terrible or anything

2271
01:49:06,760 --> 01:49:09,680
Speaker 4: like that, it's just it's just vanilla. It just is

2272
01:49:09,680 --> 01:49:12,200
Speaker 4: what it is. And if guys aren't getting open and

2273
01:49:12,240 --> 01:49:15,360
Speaker 4: it's not hitting on time, there's no imagination to it.

2274
01:49:15,400 --> 01:49:19,000
Speaker 4: There's there's no extra added bonuses to it, and I

2275
01:49:19,040 --> 01:49:20,799
Speaker 4: think that's gonna that's gonna be tough.

2276
01:49:21,840 --> 01:49:23,680
Speaker 1: Well, two good throws from Joe Milton and that one

2277
01:49:23,720 --> 01:49:25,640
Speaker 1: was a little hot and just almost killed somebody on

2278
01:49:25,680 --> 01:49:26,280
Speaker 1: the sideline.

2279
01:49:26,360 --> 01:49:29,320
Speaker 6: Yeah, but is there a chance that they pick up

2280
01:49:29,840 --> 01:49:31,840
Speaker 6: one of these star Wars wide receivers who is in

2281
01:49:31,880 --> 01:49:32,840
Speaker 6: a contract.

2282
01:49:33,560 --> 01:49:37,080
Speaker 3: I don't know, man, it's it's it's takes more than

2283
01:49:37,080 --> 01:49:38,760
Speaker 3: money at this point. You know, you've got to give

2284
01:49:38,840 --> 01:49:42,679
Speaker 3: up an asset, probably, I would think, And uh yeah,

2285
01:49:42,760 --> 01:49:44,840
Speaker 3: you know they I don't know if they'd be willing

2286
01:49:44,840 --> 01:49:48,240
Speaker 3: to give up like a next year, you know, top

2287
01:49:48,640 --> 01:49:52,080
Speaker 3: draft pick, but I wouldn't rule it out.

2288
01:49:52,320 --> 01:49:55,240
Speaker 1: I wouldn't rule it out. But you know, here's the thing.

2289
01:49:56,360 --> 01:49:58,480
Speaker 3: I don't think it's ever too soon for the quarterback,

2290
01:49:59,160 --> 01:50:02,640
Speaker 3: but I could see where if you've got a young quarterback,

2291
01:50:02,680 --> 01:50:05,639
Speaker 3: it might be too soon for you know, a veteran

2292
01:50:05,680 --> 01:50:08,040
Speaker 3: wide receiver who let's say you sign him to a

2293
01:50:08,040 --> 01:50:11,320
Speaker 3: two year deal and it takes three years for your

2294
01:50:11,360 --> 01:50:13,639
Speaker 3: offense to go and now you've got to pay him again.

2295
01:50:13,680 --> 01:50:14,280
Speaker 1: You know, it's like.

2296
01:50:15,880 --> 01:50:18,080
Speaker 3: It's because of the money that it might be too

2297
01:50:18,120 --> 01:50:21,799
Speaker 3: soon for that high end veteran wide receiver.

2298
01:50:22,240 --> 01:50:26,120
Speaker 6: I definitely you have a guy like, for example, JJ

2299
01:50:26,280 --> 01:50:28,800
Speaker 6: is gonna look so good because he has such a

2300
01:50:28,800 --> 01:50:30,439
Speaker 6: great wide receiver right inside of him.

2301
01:50:30,479 --> 01:50:33,439
Speaker 8: So it's like, but they've already got him, you know.

2302
01:50:34,320 --> 01:50:36,760
Speaker 4: I definitely think it depends as a really nice throw

2303
01:50:36,840 --> 01:50:40,080
Speaker 4: by there deep out to who's that eighty two?

2304
01:50:40,439 --> 01:50:41,639
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that Baker.

2305
01:50:41,720 --> 01:50:43,519
Speaker 4: That's the arm talent that you see from him. You know,

2306
01:50:43,560 --> 01:50:45,639
Speaker 4: you're throwing from the middle of the field, he gets

2307
01:50:45,680 --> 01:50:47,759
Speaker 4: it all the way out on the deep out. That's

2308
01:50:47,800 --> 01:50:49,800
Speaker 4: that's not a throw you were seeing the quarterbacks here

2309
01:50:49,840 --> 01:50:51,000
Speaker 4: make last last summer.

2310
01:50:51,080 --> 01:50:53,360
Speaker 1: Let me put you that way. That's a That's an

2311
01:50:53,439 --> 01:50:54,040
Speaker 1: NFL throw.

2312
01:50:54,760 --> 01:50:56,400
Speaker 6: I do just wonder though, if one of those guys

2313
01:50:56,479 --> 01:50:58,759
Speaker 6: gets sitting out waiting for this contract, isn't.

2314
01:50:58,560 --> 01:50:59,120
Speaker 7: Going to get it.

2315
01:50:59,200 --> 01:51:01,559
Speaker 3: I know, well, you know, and you know, as I

2316
01:51:01,600 --> 01:51:03,920
Speaker 3: think about it, like if they made a run at

2317
01:51:03,960 --> 01:51:07,080
Speaker 3: let's say, Brandon Ayuk and they got them to me,

2318
01:51:07,280 --> 01:51:09,720
Speaker 3: that tells me they're ready to go with Drake May

2319
01:51:10,439 --> 01:51:13,600
Speaker 3: Like why bring in Ayuk if you're going to just

2320
01:51:13,640 --> 01:51:14,800
Speaker 3: have Jacoby for set up?

2321
01:51:15,000 --> 01:51:16,560
Speaker 8: Yeah, you know, I've got.

2322
01:51:16,400 --> 01:51:19,360
Speaker 6: My eyes on the Bengal simply because like they're going

2323
01:51:19,400 --> 01:51:22,240
Speaker 6: to get that deal done with Jamar Chase, Like I

2324
01:51:22,280 --> 01:51:23,640
Speaker 6: have no doubt in my mind about that.

2325
01:51:23,720 --> 01:51:26,080
Speaker 7: But T Higgins, are you gonna be able to do both?

2326
01:51:26,200 --> 01:51:28,400
Speaker 7: And these guys aren't holding in, they're holding out, they're

2327
01:51:28,400 --> 01:51:28,800
Speaker 7: not coming.

2328
01:51:29,080 --> 01:51:33,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, So yeah, I think that there's an element of

2329
01:51:33,040 --> 01:51:37,400
Speaker 4: it where there's tears the receivers that you would be acquiring,

2330
01:51:38,000 --> 01:51:41,639
Speaker 4: and I just I want to see the young guys

2331
01:51:41,640 --> 01:51:45,160
Speaker 4: play a little bit on offense, Polk Baker and what

2332
01:51:45,200 --> 01:51:48,360
Speaker 4: do you have in those guys? If you are going

2333
01:51:48,439 --> 01:51:50,080
Speaker 4: to be able to go out and get to Brandon Nayuk,

2334
01:51:50,160 --> 01:51:52,280
Speaker 4: that's a different story. But I think that there are

2335
01:51:52,360 --> 01:51:55,200
Speaker 4: tiers to it that I would maybe say, let's wait

2336
01:51:55,240 --> 01:51:57,160
Speaker 4: a year and let's see what we have with the

2337
01:51:57,200 --> 01:52:01,719
Speaker 4: young guys, And maybe it's a Houston Texans situation where

2338
01:52:01,920 --> 01:52:04,360
Speaker 4: Nico Collins comes out of nowhere and Tank Dell's a

2339
01:52:04,439 --> 01:52:06,880
Speaker 4: Day two pick, and then you add Stefan Diggs to

2340
01:52:06,920 --> 01:52:10,320
Speaker 4: it now instead of doing it before because you lose

2341
01:52:10,360 --> 01:52:13,240
Speaker 4: reps for those guys, You start burying guys and then

2342
01:52:13,240 --> 01:52:15,479
Speaker 4: you never actually get to see what it is. Are

2343
01:52:15,520 --> 01:52:19,120
Speaker 4: you to me as Tier one receiver in the entire league.

2344
01:52:19,280 --> 01:52:21,360
Speaker 4: So I would go and get him in a heartbeat.

2345
01:52:21,360 --> 01:52:24,559
Speaker 4: But guy like T Higgins, like, I'm not crazy about

2346
01:52:24,840 --> 01:52:28,799
Speaker 4: about it yet. I just I don't necessarily view him

2347
01:52:28,840 --> 01:52:31,360
Speaker 4: on that same level as some of those other guys.

2348
01:52:32,920 --> 01:52:37,760
Speaker 3: Chad Ryland made it doing some field goal kicking now,

2349
01:52:37,920 --> 01:52:42,080
Speaker 3: which usually indicates at least the practice is coming close

2350
01:52:42,120 --> 01:52:42,599
Speaker 3: to an end.

2351
01:52:42,640 --> 01:52:48,000
Speaker 1: Who's going leg for leg with slide, Joey slide. He's

2352
01:52:48,000 --> 01:52:48,400
Speaker 1: a hooky.

2353
01:52:48,720 --> 01:52:51,519
Speaker 7: Yeah, yes, we were to school together. He has no

2354
01:52:51,560 --> 01:52:52,320
Speaker 7: idea who I am.

2355
01:52:54,120 --> 01:52:56,439
Speaker 1: You can't, you can't be serious. He doesn't know who to.

2356
01:52:56,439 --> 01:52:59,960
Speaker 7: Ma who, but he was our kicker the entire time.

2357
01:53:00,000 --> 01:53:00,639
Speaker 7: When was that school?

2358
01:53:00,760 --> 01:53:04,880
Speaker 1: T Brown right through the upright.

2359
01:53:04,600 --> 01:53:05,200
Speaker 7: The real TV?

2360
01:53:05,680 --> 01:53:13,320
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, I mean you knows as much as things

2361
01:53:13,320 --> 01:53:16,599
Speaker 1: are you know different around here. I mean generally feels

2362
01:53:16,640 --> 01:53:20,320
Speaker 1: like the pactice structure is is not that crazy. It's like,

2363
01:53:20,439 --> 01:53:23,519
Speaker 1: you know, it's individual periods. We come together for a team.

2364
01:53:23,560 --> 01:53:24,559
Speaker 1: I mean it's it's it's.

2365
01:53:26,800 --> 01:53:30,960
Speaker 7: Looser though, yeah, not as like rigid for me.

2366
01:53:31,800 --> 01:53:39,640
Speaker 1: Oh that's under that, that's what right? Wish?

2367
01:53:40,040 --> 01:53:40,479
Speaker 10: What is he?

2368
01:53:40,560 --> 01:53:47,040
Speaker 1: What is he like? It's like thirty seven yards no ways, yeah, yeah,

2369
01:53:47,920 --> 01:53:56,120
Speaker 1: thirty seven that first one from Ryland almost looked like

2370
01:53:56,160 --> 01:54:00,440
Speaker 1: it was out of steam.

2371
01:54:00,720 --> 01:54:05,600
Speaker 8: Sly sure if that was that good, it's good. We

2372
01:54:05,680 --> 01:54:08,519
Speaker 8: always look at the the ohs, the holder, Oh, they're

2373
01:54:08,560 --> 01:54:11,599
Speaker 8: all half five. Well, the refs are oh that helps.

2374
01:54:11,720 --> 01:54:15,320
Speaker 1: Yeah. I actually tell you have those every almost like

2375
01:54:15,680 --> 01:54:20,640
Speaker 1: it's like a game. They actually tell you nice. It

2376
01:54:20,760 --> 01:54:28,120
Speaker 1: was riling again this about forty two, right, hash. Should

2377
01:54:28,120 --> 01:54:31,760
Speaker 1: they extend the height of the goalpost. No, No, when

2378
01:54:31,880 --> 01:54:37,680
Speaker 1: lasers oh one looks okay to me. Yeah, they get

2379
01:54:37,760 --> 01:54:43,000
Speaker 1: just stuck in there. Yeah, they're not going to keep going.

2380
01:54:44,680 --> 01:54:47,480
Speaker 1: Here we go, Slide get his chance. Dan Hurley going

2381
01:54:47,560 --> 01:54:50,880
Speaker 1: back to Yukon, Oh yeah, wow, not going to the Lakers.

2382
01:54:51,000 --> 01:54:55,080
Speaker 8: Wow, I want to JJ Reddick going to ninety eight

2383
01:54:55,080 --> 01:54:55,720
Speaker 8: point five.

2384
01:54:56,040 --> 01:54:58,200
Speaker 1: That's going to be on the afternoon Show.

2385
01:54:58,280 --> 01:55:00,920
Speaker 4: The best thing about being at game last night was

2386
01:55:00,960 --> 01:55:06,760
Speaker 4: that I didn't have to listen to Dos.

2387
01:55:05,120 --> 01:55:05,720
Speaker 7: A doors fan.

2388
01:55:06,680 --> 01:55:14,160
Speaker 1: I know, not at all. Yes, hot take, I watched.

2389
01:55:14,600 --> 01:55:15,200
Speaker 1: She's fine.

2390
01:55:16,000 --> 01:55:17,720
Speaker 4: She's better when the sixers aren't involved.

2391
01:55:17,760 --> 01:55:20,520
Speaker 3: No, she's also better when it's three people and it's

2392
01:55:20,560 --> 01:55:23,440
Speaker 3: not up to her to do all the analysis because

2393
01:55:23,880 --> 01:55:27,240
Speaker 3: she feels obligated after every play to say something and

2394
01:55:27,280 --> 01:55:28,120
Speaker 3: you don't have to do that.

2395
01:55:29,400 --> 01:55:30,760
Speaker 1: I thought she was fine last night.

2396
01:55:30,960 --> 01:55:33,040
Speaker 4: I missed Van Gundy and Mark Jackson.

2397
01:55:34,560 --> 01:55:37,240
Speaker 6: I'm sorry, but until they make a game that tips

2398
01:55:37,240 --> 01:55:39,680
Speaker 6: off at a normal human beings, I will not be

2399
01:55:39,720 --> 01:55:42,400
Speaker 6: watching what it's.

2400
01:55:42,280 --> 01:55:44,880
Speaker 1: Too late because eight o seven. Come on, it's a championship.

2401
01:55:44,880 --> 01:55:47,840
Speaker 8: Come on, take a nap early, take a nap.

2402
01:55:47,920 --> 01:55:50,720
Speaker 1: I was, how old are you?

2403
01:55:50,720 --> 01:55:51,080
Speaker 8: You young?

2404
01:55:51,960 --> 01:55:53,720
Speaker 7: I'm too old. Didn't one of the games tip it

2405
01:55:53,800 --> 01:55:54,240
Speaker 7: like nine?

2406
01:55:54,400 --> 01:55:57,880
Speaker 1: No, it's eight? No, I was, I was. It was

2407
01:55:57,920 --> 01:56:00,000
Speaker 1: done by ten thirty last night. Yeah, I was home.

2408
01:56:00,040 --> 01:56:01,200
Speaker 7: I usually sleepy.

2409
01:56:02,560 --> 01:56:04,760
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, it's a championship. Take a nap Okay.

2410
01:56:04,920 --> 01:56:05,840
Speaker 7: Game four, I'll watch.

2411
01:56:06,960 --> 01:56:09,920
Speaker 1: That was a Ryland miss from the left hash forty

2412
01:56:09,960 --> 01:56:13,840
Speaker 1: eight yards. That was wide. The ball is not really

2413
01:56:13,840 --> 01:56:16,480
Speaker 1: exploding off his legs. No, that both guys are kind

2414
01:56:16,480 --> 01:56:19,640
Speaker 1: of just like it's like gas. It's like a sand wedge. Yeah,

2415
01:56:21,520 --> 01:56:28,960
Speaker 1: slide from forty eight it's up. It's good. The hell

2416
01:56:31,680 --> 01:56:32,160
Speaker 1: go on?

2417
01:56:32,280 --> 01:56:32,800
Speaker 7: What was that?

2418
01:56:33,280 --> 01:56:34,600
Speaker 1: One more? Might go?

2419
01:56:34,720 --> 01:56:37,480
Speaker 4: One more and more sash yep, Yeah, this might be

2420
01:56:37,520 --> 01:56:40,800
Speaker 4: a we're gonna do eleven's, then we're gonna kick, then

2421
01:56:40,800 --> 01:56:42,600
Speaker 4: we're gonna do you know that sort of thing.

2422
01:56:42,640 --> 01:56:46,080
Speaker 1: How about a two minutes you'll that'll be nice. We

2423
01:56:46,200 --> 01:56:48,160
Speaker 1: got the refs, we got the sticks, we got everything

2424
01:56:48,160 --> 01:56:48,440
Speaker 1: we need.

2425
01:56:49,160 --> 01:56:53,440
Speaker 8: Bringing the rest just for one series. Let's go. Let's go.

2426
01:56:53,600 --> 01:56:58,240
Speaker 1: Everybody's coming in now, have team meeting. Yeah, another one.

2427
01:56:58,400 --> 01:57:06,080
Speaker 3: Let's pick it up, guys while we're waiting here, Cameron

2428
01:57:06,080 --> 01:57:08,880
Speaker 3: writes in we're trading Judon in a twenty twenty five

2429
01:57:09,000 --> 01:57:09,880
Speaker 3: third round pick.

2430
01:57:10,320 --> 01:57:14,760
Speaker 8: Be enough for Higgins? Or are you no? No Judan

2431
01:57:14,880 --> 01:57:16,400
Speaker 8: in a third round pick next year?

2432
01:57:16,680 --> 01:57:16,840
Speaker 7: No?

2433
01:57:18,480 --> 01:57:19,120
Speaker 1: I don't think so.

2434
01:57:19,960 --> 01:57:25,720
Speaker 4: Third maybe in Higgins's case, just because he's a free

2435
01:57:25,760 --> 01:57:27,240
Speaker 4: agent at the end of the year and they really

2436
01:57:27,280 --> 01:57:29,200
Speaker 4: they really need to make a decision on him whether

2437
01:57:29,240 --> 01:57:32,320
Speaker 4: they're gonna pay him or move him or risk cruising

2438
01:57:32,360 --> 01:57:32,920
Speaker 4: him for nothing.

2439
01:57:33,480 --> 01:57:35,840
Speaker 1: So I don't think Judon is a great defensive fifth

2440
01:57:35,840 --> 01:57:37,640
Speaker 1: for them either. I mean it's they're they're kind of

2441
01:57:37,680 --> 01:57:41,080
Speaker 1: traditional defensive ends. Not really.

2442
01:57:41,400 --> 01:57:45,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't you don't think that's Look, make the call.

2443
01:57:45,960 --> 01:57:48,240
Speaker 4: I'm not saying that that's a complete, like slapping your

2444
01:57:48,280 --> 01:57:50,800
Speaker 4: face type offer, but I don't think it's enough.

2445
01:57:51,160 --> 01:57:55,040
Speaker 8: Weset back at quarterbacks, Let's go.

2446
01:57:55,120 --> 01:57:56,200
Speaker 1: Get something down the field.

2447
01:57:56,520 --> 01:58:01,480
Speaker 8: Going washed out and you got your way downfield.

2448
01:58:01,800 --> 01:58:05,560
Speaker 1: Oh, no, flag black in the middle of the field.

2449
01:58:05,640 --> 01:58:10,320
Speaker 1: Oh there is a flag, but not not on the

2450
01:58:10,400 --> 01:58:14,640
Speaker 1: not on the on them defender. It looks like holding

2451
01:58:15,320 --> 01:58:18,920
Speaker 1: in the middle of the field was the indication from

2452
01:58:18,960 --> 01:58:22,320
Speaker 1: the center center judge there.

2453
01:58:22,720 --> 01:58:25,920
Speaker 4: I feel like these drills should be seven on seven

2454
01:58:26,080 --> 01:58:27,640
Speaker 4: because they.

2455
01:58:27,480 --> 01:58:30,760
Speaker 1: Can't block the front right, so you're not even getting anywhere.

2456
01:58:30,880 --> 01:58:33,480
Speaker 1: It's really not even accomplishing, you know. And it's even

2457
01:58:33,480 --> 01:58:35,960
Speaker 1: with even with these were kind of like defensive front

2458
01:58:36,000 --> 01:58:38,640
Speaker 1: starter types. But the back end, other than Dugger is

2459
01:58:38,640 --> 01:58:41,640
Speaker 1: mostly backups. Yeah you know, Marco Wilson. Yeah, we have.

2460
01:58:41,640 --> 01:58:42,880
Speaker 4: Peppers and Dugger, you know.

2461
01:58:43,200 --> 01:58:45,000
Speaker 7: But I wonder if these are.

2462
01:58:44,880 --> 01:58:47,120
Speaker 1: All going to be in the slot. I mean, the

2463
01:58:47,160 --> 01:58:50,640
Speaker 1: corners are all backups right now. That's good pocket, that's

2464
01:58:50,640 --> 01:58:56,120
Speaker 1: a good yeah, nice nice throw, nice catch. Thornton gets

2465
01:58:56,120 --> 01:59:00,280
Speaker 1: out of bounce Corier just an.

2466
01:59:00,160 --> 01:59:04,080
Speaker 4: Absolute roller coaster every single day where you can watch

2467
01:59:04,120 --> 01:59:06,600
Speaker 4: the routes that are good like that one, and say, okay,

2468
01:59:06,920 --> 01:59:09,720
Speaker 4: you know this guy might be able to be something.

2469
01:59:09,720 --> 01:59:12,760
Speaker 4: And then there's other reps for just scratching your head.

2470
01:59:15,120 --> 01:59:18,200
Speaker 4: You see those deep outs though into the sideline. That's

2471
01:59:18,240 --> 01:59:19,720
Speaker 4: just not an area of the field that they could

2472
01:59:19,720 --> 01:59:24,120
Speaker 4: access easily before. It just makes it the whole. So

2473
01:59:24,200 --> 01:59:27,360
Speaker 4: many move flags fly cobset saying it's off.

2474
01:59:28,000 --> 01:59:30,080
Speaker 8: Well, I saw JUNI, but I'm not your.

2475
01:59:30,040 --> 01:59:31,360
Speaker 1: Approachment on the defense.

2476
01:59:34,360 --> 01:59:35,560
Speaker 7: Jacobe was definitely fired.

2477
01:59:35,360 --> 01:59:41,520
Speaker 1: Up after that one defense off side ref's mic isn't

2478
01:59:41,520 --> 01:59:43,680
Speaker 1: working outsides.

2479
01:59:45,280 --> 01:59:48,720
Speaker 7: I would love to see friends a ref. He's so funny.

2480
01:59:49,200 --> 01:59:53,520
Speaker 3: I tried to ref intramural basketball in college, and uh,

2481
01:59:54,520 --> 01:59:55,720
Speaker 3: I think they almost killed me.

2482
01:59:56,600 --> 01:59:59,040
Speaker 4: I was not friendly to our intramural refs. I feel

2483
01:59:59,040 --> 02:00:01,240
Speaker 4: bad about that. Not a good side of me.

2484
02:00:05,760 --> 02:00:10,440
Speaker 1: Because you know, guys would drink before they played ohe murals,

2485
02:00:10,520 --> 02:00:18,520
Speaker 1: tough crowd. Yeah, get it down, first down, all right,

2486
02:00:19,320 --> 02:00:25,120
Speaker 1: with the forty headline, back to passy good breakup by

2487
02:00:25,240 --> 02:00:32,880
Speaker 1: as easy hern shoulder in complete. That's the hunter, Hunter, Henry.

2488
02:00:36,440 --> 02:00:38,080
Speaker 1: I mean, Evan's to your point. I almost feel like

2489
02:00:38,080 --> 02:00:39,360
Speaker 1: they are kind of like, all right, we'll just put

2490
02:00:39,360 --> 02:00:40,840
Speaker 1: the backup corners and see if you guys can do

2491
02:00:40,920 --> 02:00:45,600
Speaker 1: anything on them.

2492
02:00:45,640 --> 02:00:48,320
Speaker 4: It's been tough out here in terms of separation. Even

2493
02:00:48,360 --> 02:00:50,879
Speaker 4: the completions that they've made have been underneath the defense

2494
02:00:51,000 --> 02:00:54,280
Speaker 4: or you know, contested type grabs down the field.

2495
02:00:55,040 --> 02:00:56,360
Speaker 1: So it's clear.

2496
02:00:56,440 --> 02:00:59,760
Speaker 3: As Evan said, the next step in May's progression would

2497
02:00:59,760 --> 02:01:03,320
Speaker 3: be just see him out here with the ones on defense,

2498
02:01:03,680 --> 02:01:07,160
Speaker 3: even if he's second up. Keep the starting defense out

2499
02:01:07,160 --> 02:01:09,000
Speaker 3: there and see what he can do against him. But

2500
02:01:09,400 --> 02:01:12,440
Speaker 3: this has all been forset so far with the starting defense.

2501
02:01:12,560 --> 02:01:15,560
Speaker 7: Do you think they want to focus on his footwork

2502
02:01:15,560 --> 02:01:18,000
Speaker 7: and technique first before they not to say like it

2503
02:01:18,040 --> 02:01:20,280
Speaker 7: would burn his confidence by putting him out there with

2504
02:01:20,280 --> 02:01:22,520
Speaker 7: the starting defense, but before they throw him out to

2505
02:01:22,560 --> 02:01:23,040
Speaker 7: the wolves.

2506
02:01:23,080 --> 02:01:24,880
Speaker 3: Maybe, But I think I think the first thing is,

2507
02:01:24,960 --> 02:01:27,360
Speaker 3: let's see what our offense looks like, yeah, with a

2508
02:01:27,440 --> 02:01:31,480
Speaker 3: veteran quarterback, before we put a rookie out there with

2509
02:01:31,480 --> 02:01:32,200
Speaker 3: with our offense.

2510
02:01:32,520 --> 02:01:34,600
Speaker 1: I think too there's an element of as soon as

2511
02:01:34,600 --> 02:01:38,200
Speaker 1: you put Mac mac oh, god, as soon as you

2512
02:01:38,200 --> 02:01:41,160
Speaker 1: put Drake May out there with the starters quote unquote,

2513
02:01:41,200 --> 02:01:44,280
Speaker 1: that's everybody's like, oh yeah it is.

2514
02:01:44,680 --> 02:01:47,040
Speaker 4: There's there's no rush, and I know I feel like

2515
02:01:47,120 --> 02:01:49,000
Speaker 4: I'm rushing it. But I think it's more just from

2516
02:01:49,000 --> 02:01:52,680
Speaker 4: an entertainment standpoint to be, to be honest with you,

2517
02:01:52,760 --> 02:01:56,240
Speaker 4: because I just watching this offense with Chikoby Brissett. He's fine,

2518
02:01:56,520 --> 02:01:58,400
Speaker 4: but I don't know if I can deal with another

2519
02:01:58,440 --> 02:02:01,400
Speaker 4: season of fine and when I and last year was

2520
02:02:01,440 --> 02:02:04,360
Speaker 4: worse than fine. But you understand my point where everything

2521
02:02:04,480 --> 02:02:06,800
Speaker 4: just feels like it's so hard to just even pick

2522
02:02:06,880 --> 02:02:09,400
Speaker 4: up a couple first downs because it has to be perfect,

2523
02:02:09,760 --> 02:02:12,360
Speaker 4: exactly how they put it on the whiteboard every single time,

2524
02:02:12,480 --> 02:02:15,160
Speaker 4: just to create yards out of it. Because there isn't

2525
02:02:15,160 --> 02:02:18,520
Speaker 4: anything special about anybody on the field. There's no to

2526
02:02:18,560 --> 02:02:21,880
Speaker 4: Fred's point earlier, there's no number one receiver. The quarterback's

2527
02:02:21,920 --> 02:02:24,680
Speaker 4: not a difference maker, so there's nothing special about what

2528
02:02:24,720 --> 02:02:28,360
Speaker 4: they're throwing out there, whereas with Drake it might be inconsistent,

2529
02:02:28,400 --> 02:02:30,920
Speaker 4: but there's gonna be moments of special. Yeah, and at

2530
02:02:30,960 --> 02:02:33,000
Speaker 4: least that gives you something to hang your hat on.

2531
02:02:33,120 --> 02:02:35,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, you feel like you're starting the journey to investing

2532
02:02:35,640 --> 02:02:38,000
Speaker 1: in in full time sooner you're not wasting your time,

2533
02:02:38,200 --> 02:02:41,000
Speaker 1: you know, spending your wheels with a guy who you

2534
02:02:41,040 --> 02:02:42,640
Speaker 1: know isn't going to be here in two years. Right.

2535
02:02:42,960 --> 02:02:44,640
Speaker 4: I just I feel like we're on a road to

2536
02:02:44,680 --> 02:02:48,640
Speaker 4: nowhere with Jakobe Brissett right now, where it will will

2537
02:02:48,680 --> 02:02:51,600
Speaker 4: you not turn the ball over and have these backbreaking

2538
02:02:51,600 --> 02:02:54,760
Speaker 4: interceptions late in games like in Germany, maybe you know,

2539
02:02:54,840 --> 02:02:57,200
Speaker 4: we can get to that point, but it's just never.

2540
02:02:57,800 --> 02:03:00,959
Speaker 4: I just don't see anything that's going to be appealing

2541
02:03:01,120 --> 02:03:01,839
Speaker 4: or entertaining.

2542
02:03:02,120 --> 02:03:05,640
Speaker 3: Even Okay, sets out, hit up the field goal again.

2543
02:03:05,640 --> 02:03:08,960
Speaker 3: It looks like this field goal are a little longer.

2544
02:03:09,000 --> 02:03:12,640
Speaker 7: Now he's got the juice jumping around.

2545
02:03:13,040 --> 02:03:22,200
Speaker 1: Juice, kick us up and surefooted. Good.

2546
02:03:22,520 --> 02:03:25,800
Speaker 4: That was a too true two minute type drill. So

2547
02:03:25,840 --> 02:03:28,400
Speaker 4: they throw the slant the rigger and then they ran

2548
02:03:28,480 --> 02:03:31,240
Speaker 4: the ball a little gun run and take it, and

2549
02:03:31,240 --> 02:03:31,920
Speaker 4: then they spiked it.

2550
02:03:32,160 --> 02:03:35,320
Speaker 1: Yeah with two seconds left. Ye, So now you got

2551
02:03:35,320 --> 02:03:38,680
Speaker 1: fifty eight seconds on the clock, fifty six more than

2552
02:03:38,680 --> 02:03:43,240
Speaker 1: he needs. Just so Drake's gonna get a chance here,

2553
02:03:43,480 --> 02:03:43,640
Speaker 1: is it.

2554
02:03:43,760 --> 02:03:48,440
Speaker 8: Drake or Zappy like Drake? Drake grabbing him up? Yep, yep,

2555
02:03:48,560 --> 02:03:52,120
Speaker 8: it's happening up the ol. So that's been consistent. Drake's

2556
02:03:52,160 --> 02:03:53,040
Speaker 8: been number two.

2557
02:03:55,280 --> 02:03:58,240
Speaker 4: He's been pretty good today. I'm not gonna lie. He

2558
02:03:58,280 --> 02:03:59,520
Speaker 4: missed that throw early.

2559
02:03:59,560 --> 02:04:03,320
Speaker 1: And then I give him a beat. Yeah, okay, I

2560
02:04:03,320 --> 02:04:11,800
Speaker 1: could live with a bee. Okay, I think that's fair. Right,

2561
02:04:12,160 --> 02:04:15,240
Speaker 1: So here's something again we got so we got we

2562
02:04:15,320 --> 02:04:18,360
Speaker 1: got real corners out there. Okay, was in the middle.

2563
02:04:18,480 --> 02:04:20,720
Speaker 1: We got starting corners.

2564
02:04:20,520 --> 02:04:24,320
Speaker 8: Because I noticed that on that last series they held

2565
02:04:24,360 --> 02:04:27,160
Speaker 8: the starting corners were not on the field and now

2566
02:04:27,200 --> 02:04:27,760
Speaker 8: they are, so.

2567
02:04:27,720 --> 02:04:32,120
Speaker 1: They held them out. But but back up front seven

2568
02:04:32,240 --> 02:04:34,960
Speaker 1: really so, I mean, yeah, this is the day that

2569
02:04:35,040 --> 02:04:39,040
Speaker 1: Drake made became the starting quarter back. Let's see if

2570
02:04:39,040 --> 02:04:41,240
Speaker 1: you can get the ball to pulk against Gonzales.

2571
02:04:42,120 --> 02:04:47,120
Speaker 4: Pressure not good, there's the pressure. The pocket is just

2572
02:04:47,160 --> 02:04:49,839
Speaker 4: not holding up on some of these for either quarterback.

2573
02:04:49,920 --> 02:04:52,480
Speaker 4: I'm not trying to be biased, like the pressure has

2574
02:04:52,520 --> 02:04:53,400
Speaker 4: been bad for with.

2575
02:04:53,400 --> 02:04:56,240
Speaker 1: The well, I think that well, I think he held

2576
02:04:56,280 --> 02:05:01,240
Speaker 1: it a little long arm angles. Huh.

2577
02:05:01,360 --> 02:05:08,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, you can just tell too that he's trying to

2578
02:05:08,680 --> 02:05:11,320
Speaker 4: run it in structure and run it on time. And

2579
02:05:11,400 --> 02:05:14,800
Speaker 4: now we haven't even gotten into the I'm gonna scramble

2580
02:05:14,800 --> 02:05:16,840
Speaker 4: around and throw it off my back foot fifty yards

2581
02:05:17,000 --> 02:05:19,280
Speaker 4: after yet And that's not what you want to do

2582
02:05:19,360 --> 02:05:22,360
Speaker 4: at this time of year, obviously, But that that element

2583
02:05:22,440 --> 02:05:24,200
Speaker 4: of it, too, is always in the back of my mind,

2584
02:05:24,200 --> 02:05:27,440
Speaker 4: that man, we got a flat that exists with the

2585
02:05:27,520 --> 02:05:30,000
Speaker 4: start that it's you know, like it's not gonna always

2586
02:05:30,040 --> 02:05:32,720
Speaker 4: have to be this, like he's got a whole other

2587
02:05:32,840 --> 02:05:34,000
Speaker 4: thing in his back pocket.

2588
02:05:38,880 --> 02:05:42,640
Speaker 1: Well, if we can get the structure stuff down, good place,

2589
02:05:43,840 --> 02:05:50,160
Speaker 1: all right? How up? How so? Yeah? You got guys

2590
02:05:50,160 --> 02:05:54,320
Speaker 1: like Christian Ellis him and Az Yeah, this is.

2591
02:05:56,840 --> 02:06:01,200
Speaker 4: Marty Moffu playing Mike though, but back like obviously, but

2592
02:06:01,320 --> 02:06:02,320
Speaker 4: give him some reps there it.

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02:06:02,720 --> 02:06:08,720
Speaker 1: Interesting directing trap, it's going, He's going m hm. That's throw.

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02:06:08,920 --> 02:06:11,760
Speaker 4: That's that's what I'm talking about. Step up into the pocket,

2595
02:06:12,760 --> 02:06:16,080
Speaker 4: off platform, throw at Jalen Polk. The other guys just

2596
02:06:16,120 --> 02:06:18,480
Speaker 4: can't do that, and that's why here's the third overall

2597
02:06:18,480 --> 02:06:19,160
Speaker 4: pick in the draft.

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02:06:19,200 --> 02:06:21,120
Speaker 1: That's a throw we have not seen in these plucks

2599
02:06:21,160 --> 02:06:22,480
Speaker 1: in the long and time.

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02:06:28,400 --> 02:06:41,240
Speaker 9: Focus wide open. Yeah, let's good throw. So do you

2601
02:06:41,240 --> 02:06:41,960
Speaker 9: do a lot slop?

2602
02:06:42,000 --> 02:06:44,080
Speaker 8: Twenty nine seconds left in the drive.

2603
02:06:49,000 --> 02:06:49,400
Speaker 1: Pressure?

2604
02:06:50,280 --> 02:06:53,240
Speaker 4: What are you supposed to do then definitely? Oh oh

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02:06:53,600 --> 02:07:03,800
Speaker 4: oh seventy four ninety seven, seventy four and ninety seven.

2606
02:07:03,840 --> 02:07:14,080
Speaker 1: A little dust up there, Michael Jordan seven for Michael Jordan. Yeah,

2607
02:07:14,600 --> 02:07:15,000
Speaker 1: is it.

2608
02:07:18,960 --> 02:07:24,920
Speaker 3: In the Russian for six seconds left four three two,

2609
02:07:27,000 --> 02:07:33,800
Speaker 3: just just gets it off YouTube for a touchdown. So

2610
02:07:33,880 --> 02:07:35,440
Speaker 3: I don't know what they're doing with the clock, but

2611
02:07:35,480 --> 02:07:37,400
Speaker 3: obviously that would have been the last player of the game.

2612
02:07:39,880 --> 02:07:41,640
Speaker 7: Yo goals again, maybe.

2613
02:07:43,280 --> 02:07:53,640
Speaker 1: Whollow du Mao blowing the whistle, taking control. We're going back.

2614
02:07:53,680 --> 02:07:56,120
Speaker 1: We're doing another rep here is that? It?

2615
02:07:56,120 --> 02:07:59,000
Speaker 4: See looks like maybe Zappi is going to get a

2616
02:07:59,040 --> 02:08:03,360
Speaker 4: turn here. Yeah, Drake May took his homet offers walking back.

2617
02:08:04,040 --> 02:08:05,760
Speaker 4: It's a little frustrated about something.

2618
02:08:05,960 --> 02:08:07,880
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah.

2619
02:08:07,880 --> 02:08:10,680
Speaker 3: And then I saw Jacoby go over to a defender

2620
02:08:10,720 --> 02:08:14,160
Speaker 3: and put his arm around him like you're you're cheating

2621
02:08:14,920 --> 02:08:18,120
Speaker 3: or doing you know. I think I'm not sure what

2622
02:08:18,160 --> 02:08:18,960
Speaker 3: was going on there.

2623
02:08:19,760 --> 02:08:25,600
Speaker 4: A yeah, I think somebody did bump into Drake May

2624
02:08:25,600 --> 02:08:27,440
Speaker 4: a little bit. I wonder if Jacoby was like.

2625
02:08:27,440 --> 02:08:33,400
Speaker 8: Hey, franchise, yeah, let's not hurt somebody. It is Bailey

2626
02:08:33,520 --> 02:08:39,640
Speaker 8: Zappy now Zappy fever starts and in.

2627
02:08:39,560 --> 02:08:41,400
Speaker 1: The pressure he just puts it down.

2628
02:08:41,480 --> 02:08:43,400
Speaker 4: Well that was four verts like they were just running

2629
02:08:43,440 --> 02:08:47,520
Speaker 4: everybody down the field, uh Hail Mary style and that

2630
02:08:47,600 --> 02:08:48,600
Speaker 4: did not not.

2631
02:08:48,520 --> 02:08:51,480
Speaker 1: Stand a chance even len Zappy run real place. Come on,

2632
02:08:51,880 --> 02:08:52,960
Speaker 1: it's four vers.

2633
02:08:54,680 --> 02:09:08,440
Speaker 10: Due yeah right, timeless.

2634
02:09:09,280 --> 02:09:14,080
Speaker 1: Wait, that's a throat of No. One eighty six. But

2635
02:09:14,280 --> 02:09:16,280
Speaker 1: that was hot. That ball tipped at the line a

2636
02:09:16,280 --> 02:09:21,040
Speaker 1: little bit. Didn't look good. No, right along the ground

2637
02:09:25,080 --> 02:09:33,680
Speaker 1: defense is going to claim victory today. Yeah, well you

2638
02:09:33,760 --> 02:09:38,240
Speaker 1: get the feeling getting into training campus is going to be, Yeah,

2639
02:09:38,360 --> 02:09:41,080
Speaker 1: how how much can the offense get up to speed?

2640
02:09:41,120 --> 02:09:44,920
Speaker 1: And you know, it's just weird to use. When we

2641
02:09:44,960 --> 02:09:46,960
Speaker 1: talked about what Damien Harris had to say about what

2642
02:09:47,040 --> 02:09:49,000
Speaker 1: was going on in that offense that we watched, and

2643
02:09:49,040 --> 02:09:52,560
Speaker 1: then you know, even last year it was seemed I

2644
02:09:52,560 --> 02:09:54,760
Speaker 1: guess a little more organized, but it just wasn't. It

2645
02:09:54,800 --> 02:09:57,920
Speaker 1: was less productive, and you know, it's it's just hard

2646
02:09:57,960 --> 02:10:00,720
Speaker 1: to know what the difference is between in an offense

2647
02:10:00,760 --> 02:10:02,840
Speaker 1: that in twenty twenty two that you be watching training

2648
02:10:02,880 --> 02:10:05,120
Speaker 1: camp that was never going to go anywhere too all right,

2649
02:10:05,200 --> 02:10:08,280
Speaker 1: yeah it looks clunky right now, But are we seeing

2650
02:10:08,400 --> 02:10:11,520
Speaker 1: enough that you feel like there's you know, there's going

2651
02:10:11,560 --> 02:10:14,000
Speaker 1: to be progress They're going to start not at this

2652
02:10:14,080 --> 02:10:16,480
Speaker 1: being able to Yeah, no, it's hard to see. And

2653
02:10:16,480 --> 02:10:17,880
Speaker 1: I mean and even when they talk about it and

2654
02:10:17,920 --> 02:10:19,440
Speaker 1: they're like, well, we really need the running game to

2655
02:10:19,480 --> 02:10:22,800
Speaker 1: be clicking, and you know, you just wonder as a

2656
02:10:22,800 --> 02:10:24,560
Speaker 1: coach when you put these systems in and you really

2657
02:10:24,640 --> 02:10:28,560
Speaker 1: can acknowledge like there's always an element unown when you

2658
02:10:28,560 --> 02:10:30,440
Speaker 1: get to that first game that you don't know exactly

2659
02:10:30,920 --> 02:10:32,920
Speaker 1: what you got it doesn't.

2660
02:10:32,920 --> 02:10:37,040
Speaker 4: How it feels like there's still that lack of separation

2661
02:10:37,360 --> 02:10:41,520
Speaker 4: from on the instructure stuff that unless they're run game play, action,

2662
02:10:41,680 --> 02:10:45,200
Speaker 4: sequencing and all that comes together really well, this is

2663
02:10:45,280 --> 02:10:48,160
Speaker 4: not going to be an offense that eleven on eleven

2664
02:10:48,440 --> 02:10:50,280
Speaker 4: you know three wide.

2665
02:10:50,720 --> 02:10:55,600
Speaker 1: Is that schooler drops a schooler deep safety with James

2666
02:10:55,640 --> 02:10:58,080
Speaker 1: bell zap Be just threw that up off his back

2667
02:10:58,120 --> 02:11:00,600
Speaker 1: before is seen enough, they're off the hills.

2668
02:11:00,680 --> 02:11:01,120
Speaker 8: Schooler.

2669
02:11:02,320 --> 02:11:04,720
Speaker 1: All right, if that's the case, let's see what's going

2670
02:11:04,760 --> 02:11:05,040
Speaker 1: on here.

2671
02:11:05,440 --> 02:11:08,880
Speaker 3: They are off to the hills to run. So we

2672
02:11:08,960 --> 02:11:12,720
Speaker 3: are gonna wrap things up here at the Letts Stadium.

2673
02:11:12,960 --> 02:11:16,440
Speaker 3: Next up is should I break the news or not?

2674
02:11:17,280 --> 02:11:22,320
Speaker 3: But when the next practice? Okay, So Wednesday, we'll be

2675
02:11:22,400 --> 02:11:25,480
Speaker 3: back live, and I believe it's an early morning practice

2676
02:11:25,560 --> 02:11:27,840
Speaker 3: relative you know, earlier than today, so we'll be on

2677
02:11:28,560 --> 02:11:30,240
Speaker 3: what nine fifteen or something like that.

2678
02:11:31,400 --> 02:11:33,000
Speaker 1: Ten. Yeah, okay, So the.

2679
02:11:32,840 --> 02:11:34,960
Speaker 4: Practice starts at ten.

2680
02:11:35,360 --> 02:11:38,440
Speaker 3: Okay, so we'll come up on about nine forty five,

2681
02:11:39,160 --> 02:11:43,840
Speaker 3: uh for practice on Wednesday. It's a busy day on

2682
02:11:43,880 --> 02:11:46,640
Speaker 3: Wednesday because it's also the Brady Day. So we'll have

2683
02:11:47,520 --> 02:11:51,520
Speaker 3: our live practice Patriots Unfiltered at nine forty five start

2684
02:11:52,000 --> 02:11:55,600
Speaker 3: and then we'll have the red carpet ceremony, start with

2685
02:11:55,680 --> 02:11:58,640
Speaker 3: Brady around five five thirty and then we'll carry.

2686
02:11:58,400 --> 02:12:00,280
Speaker 8: It through to the end of the night. So it's

2687
02:12:00,280 --> 02:12:04,200
Speaker 8: a big day Wednesday. That's when we'll talk to you next. Obviously,

2688
02:12:04,280 --> 02:12:08,360
Speaker 8: stay tuned to Patriots dot com for all the latest news.

2689
02:12:09,080 --> 02:12:11,920
Speaker 3: And I just want to remind you it's easy to drink,

2690
02:12:12,200 --> 02:12:15,160
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02:12:15,160 --> 02:12:17,880
Speaker 3: the New England Patriots. Thanks for watching and listening today.

2692
02:12:17,920 --> 02:12:20,360
Speaker 3: We'll talk to you Wednesday.

2693
02:12:20,920 --> 02:12:30,560
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