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Speaker 1: Thank you for listening. This is the best of with

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Speaker 1: Clay Travis and Buck Sexton.

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Speaker 2: Bin Laden's Letter to America going viral over twenty years

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Speaker 2: since it initially was circulating and published. This is this

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Speaker 2: is quite a situation that is unfolding here. First, let's

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Speaker 2: let's go to this. TikTok has become the social media

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Speaker 2: website of choice for gen Z in America. I think

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Speaker 2: that's that's clear at this point. And if you look

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Speaker 2: at TikTok, there's a lot of pro Hamas stuff all

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Speaker 2: over the place, and particularly sympathy for you know, the

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Speaker 2: palace eating cause Hamas all the rest of it. Well,

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Speaker 2: what you're now seeing are people who have started to

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Speaker 2: look for rationalizations of what Hamas has done. And this

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Speaker 2: this is now going viral, the bin Laden letter. He

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Speaker 2: wrote it a year after the September eleventh attacks, and

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Speaker 2: it was circulating among jihadists online and including in the

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Speaker 2: UK where I believe the Guardian published it. And now

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Speaker 2: the Guardian has pulled it down as I'm speaking to you,

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Speaker 2: and they're saying they're redirectoring people from the letter to

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Speaker 2: a news story. I'm going to tell you what's really

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Speaker 2: going on with that. In a second. But just to

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Speaker 2: give you a sense of it, these are young people, okay,

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Speaker 2: and they seem to be overwhelmingly America, And I mean

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Speaker 2: maybe some of them are a broad somewhere, but these

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Speaker 2: are young people early twenties, mid twenties, who with all

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Speaker 2: that's going on, and with these big protests and the DNS,

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Speaker 2: with all that's happening, They're like, you know, bin Laden,

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Speaker 2: Yeah he kind of had a point, they're saying in

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Speaker 2: this listen to some of this play. Nine. I read

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Speaker 2: Osama bin Laden's letter to America, and if you have.

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Speaker 3: Read it, let me know if you are also going

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Speaker 3: through an existential crisis in this very moment, because in

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Speaker 3: the last twenty minutes, my entire viewpoint on the entire

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Speaker 3: life I have believed and I have lived has changed.

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Speaker 4: This has left me very disillusioned, and I feel the

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Speaker 4: same exact way I felt when I was deconstructing Christianity.

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Speaker 4: I feel a little bit just confused, like I have

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Speaker 4: entered into another timeline.

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Speaker 5: What is this? In reading the letter, I could only

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Speaker 5: think of this tweet, but I saw the other day

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Speaker 5: under sevenor colonialism. Any kind of resistance is branded as

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Speaker 5: terrorists because the only acceptable violence is violenced by the occupier.

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Speaker 4: The way this letter is going viral right now is

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Speaker 4: giving me the greatest sense of relief.

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Speaker 1: If you're a Muslim and you've lived in the US

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Speaker 1: since nine to eleven, you know more truth than the

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Speaker 1: typical citizen.

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Speaker 5: Now it's all coming to light because of Palestine.

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Speaker 6: Reading this letter, it becomes apparent to me that the

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Speaker 6: actions of nine to eleven and those acts committed against

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Speaker 6: the USA and its people were all just the build

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Speaker 6: up of our government failing other nations.

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Speaker 2: Let me tell you, I joined the CIA because of

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Speaker 2: the nine to eleven attacks and Osama bin Laden and

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Speaker 2: al Qaida. Okay, so it was something that had a

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Speaker 2: major shift in the not just trajectory of my life,

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Speaker 2: but of course of America and of the world. But

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Speaker 2: for me, this does bring back very specific memories and

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Speaker 2: does feel quite personal. Bin Lauden was an Islamic supremacist

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Speaker 2: and a psychopath. Okay. Part of what they're not talking

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Speaker 2: and you'll hear this from people. He just was opposed

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Speaker 2: of the Palestinians, and you know, cites a few other things.

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Speaker 2: Oh no, but he also cites homosexuality, He cites the

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Speaker 2: decadence of the West. He cites a whole bunch of

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Speaker 2: bin ladenism, which is just another He's just one leader

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Speaker 2: within the militant Islamic framework, right, I mean, he's just

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Speaker 2: Muslim Brotherhood and Hamas lots of connections there. You start

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Speaker 2: Islamic supremacist entities, meaning that there are only two kinds

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Speaker 2: just if you read the whole letter, and if you read,

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Speaker 2: if you read Jihadis writing in general, they absolutely hate Jews.

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Speaker 2: They the most vile and severe and extreme anti semitism imaginable.

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Speaker 2: I mean anti semitism sounds like too gentle of a term.

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Speaker 2: Islamic supremacists hate Jews, all of them, all of them.

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Speaker 2: They have been trained to do so. They think it

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Speaker 2: they will cite their own version of scripture in support

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Speaker 2: true of Hesbellah. Name me a group al Kaida in

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Speaker 2: the Islamic Maghreb, al Shabab in Somalia. Find me a

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Speaker 2: terrorist organization that is jihadist, and I will show you

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Speaker 2: people who hate the Jews, even if on the other

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Speaker 2: but now they're all told, you know, whether it's terrorists

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Speaker 1: They're all told this.

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Speaker 2: They all believe this. But if you look at what

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Speaker 2: bin Laden's belief system actually is for the people saying, oh,

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Speaker 2: the Land of the Two Holy Cities. Idiocy is idiocy

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Speaker 2: all over the place. He justifies the attack on anyone

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Speaker 2: Meaning you're upset about what's going on, the Palestinians, Nuca City,

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Speaker 2: People who are true believers in Hamas, those are your options,

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Speaker 2: because it is central to their identity. I mean, sure,

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Speaker 2: you could talk about deradicalization. I trust me. I've I

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Speaker 2: was familiar with some of the deradicalization programs that various

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Speaker 2: in the meantime you risk another attack like what we've

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Speaker 2: it all lines up because what have I been saying

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Speaker 2: has shown beyond a doubt that it is morally on

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Speaker 2: the same plane that it is equivalent to al Qaeda.

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Speaker 2: Ices go down the list. It's no different, it's no different.

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Speaker 2: It is soaked in hatred of the Jews, soaked in

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Speaker 2: hatred of the West. In fact, built on a foundation

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Speaker 2: of those hatreds, and ultimately is one of the most

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Speaker 2: the Islamic world. There's the ultimate victims, more victimized than

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Speaker 2: which would seem completely insane to anybody who has even

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Speaker 2: ultimate victims. And therefore any insufficiency in any Muslim society

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Speaker 2: It's oh, I just care about this. I care so

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Speaker 2: fortunately the voices of sanity here in the West recognize

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Speaker 2: seen what their negotiations end up with, and look like

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Speaker 2: It never ends. And that's why these people who are

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Speaker 2: some good ideas. If you want to just completely surrender

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Speaker 7: But the fact is that these leftist ideology politicians that

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Speaker 8: It's all of.

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Speaker 7: This feel good leftist ideology policies, the pressure from all

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Speaker 2: Johann, we have to leave it there. That's Johann Creek,

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Speaker 1: Welcome back in Clay Travis bock Sexton Show. All right,

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Speaker 1: we've done a lot of serious discussion here, but there

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Speaker 1: gone viral. I don't know where you stand on this

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Speaker 1: issue divides families, husbands, wives, parents from their children. What

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna be honest with all of you out there.

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Speaker 1: I am one billion percent committed to no reclining on seats.

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Speaker 2: it is a daylight domestic flight, I do not think

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Speaker 2: on the coach even with it reclined. But I think

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Speaker 2: That to me is a massive party foul and you

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Speaker 1: I understand, yes that sometimes happens. Those are people that

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Speaker 1: Probably so my wife is five to two. I understand

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Speaker 1: but I can't get up that high. I don't think

433
00:23:44,359 --> 00:23:48,159
Speaker 1: short people have any concept for what it's like to

434
00:23:48,240 --> 00:23:51,840
Speaker 1: be in coach class seating. And so when some and

435
00:23:51,920 --> 00:23:54,840
Speaker 1: a lot of times woman is like five two and

436
00:23:54,960 --> 00:23:57,400
Speaker 1: reclines in front of me, I'm like, you have an

437
00:23:57,440 --> 00:24:01,920
Speaker 1: ocean of space already like this swallowing you. Okay, I

438
00:24:01,960 --> 00:24:03,080
Speaker 1: said five to five. I was close.

439
00:24:03,200 --> 00:24:04,800
Speaker 2: I'm close enough that I'm out in any trouble.

440
00:24:05,119 --> 00:24:09,120
Speaker 1: So if you're a five foot two, five foot four

441
00:24:09,200 --> 00:24:13,120
Speaker 1: woman and you sit in coach class seating, you have

442
00:24:13,400 --> 00:24:16,879
Speaker 1: an abundance and a luxury of space. You're like in

443
00:24:16,960 --> 00:24:20,399
Speaker 1: first class seating. Compared to someone who is six feet

444
00:24:20,520 --> 00:24:23,440
Speaker 1: or bigger, I can't even imagine. Like I sometimes see

445
00:24:23,480 --> 00:24:25,400
Speaker 1: guys who are like six y five or six six

446
00:24:25,440 --> 00:24:28,800
Speaker 1: walking past me on a Southwest Airlines flight, and I

447
00:24:28,920 --> 00:24:32,000
Speaker 1: just think, you poor bastard, Like you can't even sit

448
00:24:32,119 --> 00:24:36,520
Speaker 1: without your knees grinding into people's backs. I'm telling you

449
00:24:36,640 --> 00:24:40,040
Speaker 1: seats should not be reclinable because people say, oh, well,

450
00:24:40,480 --> 00:24:42,960
Speaker 1: I paid for the seat and I should recline. I've

451
00:24:42,960 --> 00:24:45,479
Speaker 1: tried to do laptop work, I've tried to read. You

452
00:24:45,560 --> 00:24:47,959
Speaker 1: cannot do it if you're a decent sized man and

453
00:24:48,000 --> 00:24:49,359
Speaker 1: someone reclines in front of you.

454
00:24:49,800 --> 00:24:53,960
Speaker 2: So I was also and there's also the people that

455
00:24:54,080 --> 00:24:57,920
Speaker 2: recline very rapidly, and sometimes we'll hit your laptop or

456
00:24:58,080 --> 00:25:01,840
Speaker 2: they'll even knock over drinks things like that. That's a common,

457
00:25:01,960 --> 00:25:06,640
Speaker 2: uh shortcoming of the situation. I'm surprised that you don't.

458
00:25:07,040 --> 00:25:09,840
Speaker 2: I will tell you, Clay, there are moments where someone

459
00:25:09,920 --> 00:25:12,800
Speaker 2: is being so aggressive in the pushing and hitting of

460
00:25:12,840 --> 00:25:15,199
Speaker 2: my seat that I have to think to myself, I

461
00:25:15,240 --> 00:25:18,200
Speaker 2: do not want the Daily Mail headline. Right wing radio

462
00:25:18,280 --> 00:25:22,040
Speaker 2: hosts caught on video in scuffle over air, Like I

463
00:25:22,080 --> 00:25:24,040
Speaker 2: have to go through it in my head so that

464
00:25:24,080 --> 00:25:26,240
Speaker 2: I do not turn around and start screaming at you.

465
00:25:26,320 --> 00:25:28,679
Speaker 1: What's the worst event that you've had happen to you

466
00:25:28,720 --> 00:25:29,200
Speaker 1: on a flight?

467
00:25:31,119 --> 00:25:32,800
Speaker 2: The worst thing that's ever happened to me on that.

468
00:25:32,880 --> 00:25:35,119
Speaker 1: Yeah, not like the plane, like the the you know,

469
00:25:35,200 --> 00:25:38,440
Speaker 1: like the things, but like just interpersonal relationships to your point.

470
00:25:38,520 --> 00:25:40,639
Speaker 1: I mean I was I was once sitting next to

471
00:25:40,680 --> 00:25:42,879
Speaker 1: a woman and we were you know, I was in

472
00:25:42,920 --> 00:25:47,040
Speaker 1: the middle and I was using the seat, you know,

473
00:25:47,119 --> 00:25:49,480
Speaker 1: like the being in the middle seat is awful, right,

474
00:25:49,560 --> 00:25:51,960
Speaker 1: I mean it is like really like you're the dregs

475
00:25:51,960 --> 00:25:53,560
Speaker 1: of society if you have to sit in the middle

476
00:25:53,560 --> 00:25:57,040
Speaker 1: on a long flight. And like my arm touched her

477
00:25:57,160 --> 00:26:00,400
Speaker 1: arm on the hand on the armorrest, and she hit

478
00:26:00,480 --> 00:26:04,639
Speaker 1: me and she said, if you touch me again, I'm

479
00:26:04,680 --> 00:26:08,080
Speaker 1: going to uh, you know, the flight attendant's gonna come

480
00:26:08,080 --> 00:26:10,320
Speaker 1: here and this is gonna be a major issue for you.

481
00:26:11,280 --> 00:26:12,919
Speaker 1: And I was like, I'm just trying to put my

482
00:26:13,080 --> 00:26:15,840
Speaker 1: arm on the arm rest, and I was thinking to myself,

483
00:26:16,040 --> 00:26:17,840
Speaker 1: how do I prove that it were you.

484
00:26:17,840 --> 00:26:21,040
Speaker 2: Already Clay Travis, Like, was this an MSNBC employee? No,

485
00:26:21,080 --> 00:26:23,080
Speaker 2: I don't think she knew who I was. But I

486
00:26:23,119 --> 00:26:25,520
Speaker 2: was thinking to myself, how do I prove that I

487
00:26:25,560 --> 00:26:28,160
Speaker 2: didn't do anything wrong. I'm just in the middle seat

488
00:26:28,600 --> 00:26:31,800
Speaker 2: trying to use part of the arm rest right and

489
00:26:31,840 --> 00:26:33,440
Speaker 2: she lost it, and.

490
00:26:33,480 --> 00:26:35,440
Speaker 1: I was thinking I didn't even know what to do.

491
00:26:35,800 --> 00:26:37,600
Speaker 1: I was like, I don't want to create a scene

492
00:26:37,600 --> 00:26:39,119
Speaker 1: because I don't to your point. I don't want it

493
00:26:39,160 --> 00:26:41,679
Speaker 1: to be a story like Clay Travis, you know, like,

494
00:26:41,720 --> 00:26:43,480
Speaker 1: and this is why my wife is like, you shouldn't

495
00:26:43,520 --> 00:26:46,679
Speaker 1: be taking Southwest flights, but I I can't. I'm not

496
00:26:46,720 --> 00:26:49,159
Speaker 1: ever gonna give up Southwest Airlines. I'm in the a

497
00:26:49,280 --> 00:26:51,600
Speaker 1: boarding group. I've spent a lot of time here. But

498
00:26:51,880 --> 00:26:54,399
Speaker 1: she's like, only bad things are gonna happen to you

499
00:26:54,480 --> 00:26:56,879
Speaker 1: in the middle seat on Southwest. Somebody's gonna know you,

500
00:26:56,960 --> 00:26:58,800
Speaker 1: they're gonna hate you, and they're gonna try to turn

501
00:26:58,840 --> 00:27:00,600
Speaker 1: this into a huge story, but that it's like the

502
00:27:00,680 --> 00:27:03,040
Speaker 1: armrest thing. I was like, oh my god, I might

503
00:27:03,119 --> 00:27:05,760
Speaker 1: be turned into an awful human being and I haven't

504
00:27:05,760 --> 00:27:06,520
Speaker 1: even done anything.

505
00:27:07,400 --> 00:27:08,760
Speaker 2: I would have backed you up play, I don't worry.

506
00:27:08,840 --> 00:27:10,680
Speaker 2: You would have been okay. But this is probably a

507
00:27:10,680 --> 00:27:12,200
Speaker 2: while ago, though I might not have known you.

508
00:27:12,320 --> 00:27:15,440
Speaker 1: So this is like this is about it was before

509
00:27:15,520 --> 00:27:18,600
Speaker 1: we started doing the show, but sometimes pretty recent.

510
00:27:18,880 --> 00:27:19,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay.

511
00:27:19,520 --> 00:27:22,399
Speaker 1: Sometimes people are stunned that I'm on Southwest Airlines flight. No,

512
00:27:22,600 --> 00:27:25,520
Speaker 1: I'm on a Southwest Airlines flight Monday. I take them everywhere.

513
00:27:25,680 --> 00:27:27,240
Speaker 2: I mean, I don't want to you know, some people

514
00:27:27,240 --> 00:27:29,639
Speaker 2: maybe eating their lunch and also you know, I just

515
00:27:30,320 --> 00:27:31,960
Speaker 2: but if you ask me, like the roughest thing that

516
00:27:31,960 --> 00:27:34,720
Speaker 2: I can remember be exposed to on a plane, and

517
00:27:34,760 --> 00:27:37,959
Speaker 2: now I know that there's the you know, whoever smelt

518
00:27:37,960 --> 00:27:40,600
Speaker 2: that dealt it? Okay. I understand that there are rules

519
00:27:40,600 --> 00:27:42,280
Speaker 2: that people think apply to this, but I am just

520
00:27:43,000 --> 00:27:47,200
Speaker 2: I was next to somebody who was having clear gastro

521
00:27:47,320 --> 00:27:53,200
Speaker 2: intestinal distress to the point where to the point where

522
00:27:53,960 --> 00:27:58,240
Speaker 2: I started laughing because it kept happening, and it smells

523
00:27:59,440 --> 00:28:00,000
Speaker 2: so stupid.

524
00:28:00,119 --> 00:28:02,479
Speaker 1: Did you all so bad?

525
00:28:02,920 --> 00:28:06,919
Speaker 2: It's smelled so bad. It was like I was starting

526
00:28:06,960 --> 00:28:10,440
Speaker 2: to worry if like methane poisoning could be a thing.

527
00:28:12,280 --> 00:28:14,320
Speaker 1: You can die the coach a lot.

528
00:28:15,000 --> 00:28:17,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I was really hoping those HEPA filters were

529
00:28:17,359 --> 00:28:20,119
Speaker 2: working overtime, and it was clear to me who they was.

530
00:28:20,160 --> 00:28:24,639
Speaker 2: A guy you knew, you know, like upper middle age,

531
00:28:24,720 --> 00:28:27,560
Speaker 2: heavy and you know the thing about bo I'm gonna

532
00:28:27,560 --> 00:28:28,760
Speaker 2: tell you this right now, because I've been on flights

533
00:28:28,800 --> 00:28:30,760
Speaker 2: where there's there's a lot of bo action going on,

534
00:28:30,840 --> 00:28:35,280
Speaker 2: body armpit stuff. You get a little bit used to

535
00:28:35,320 --> 00:28:39,080
Speaker 2: overtime because it's constant. So if you're in and and

536
00:28:39,120 --> 00:28:42,360
Speaker 2: I've been in countries my former life.

537
00:28:42,080 --> 00:28:47,240
Speaker 1: As a CIA as often or agressive, there's.

538
00:28:46,240 --> 00:28:48,760
Speaker 2: Not a lot of well there's no deodorant usage basically

539
00:28:48,840 --> 00:28:52,840
Speaker 2: that's not so so you get that. But but in

540
00:28:52,880 --> 00:28:55,440
Speaker 2: the and I've been in long car rides with folks,

541
00:28:55,600 --> 00:28:57,280
Speaker 2: and you can kind of get used to that. The

542
00:28:57,440 --> 00:29:04,480
Speaker 2: intermittent the intermittent smell. Yeah, exposure is very because you

543
00:29:04,560 --> 00:29:07,280
Speaker 2: never acclimate to it. And yeah, I remember I just

544
00:29:07,320 --> 00:29:08,960
Speaker 2: sort of like I kind of just bust out laughing,

545
00:29:08,960 --> 00:29:10,440
Speaker 2: and it was it wasn't a very long flight, but

546
00:29:10,480 --> 00:29:11,440
Speaker 2: it was highly unpleasant.

547
00:29:11,480 --> 00:29:15,000
Speaker 1: It's like the difference between a dull roar and an

548
00:29:15,040 --> 00:29:19,000
Speaker 1: intermittent sound. Right, It's like you could get used to

549
00:29:19,720 --> 00:29:22,680
Speaker 1: a sound that's annoying as long as it's consistent.

550
00:29:22,800 --> 00:29:22,960
Speaker 2: Right.

551
00:29:23,000 --> 00:29:24,800
Speaker 1: So people might say that's the radio show.

552
00:29:24,880 --> 00:29:27,400
Speaker 2: Bo is like white bo is, like a white is

553
00:29:27,440 --> 00:29:30,680
Speaker 2: like white noise. But I'm talking about like the thunder

554
00:29:30,920 --> 00:29:31,600
Speaker 2: was you.

555
00:29:31,640 --> 00:29:33,400
Speaker 1: Know, we don't know, but I mean this is why,

556
00:29:33,760 --> 00:29:37,000
Speaker 1: For instance, it seems to me that fire alarms only

557
00:29:37,040 --> 00:29:39,080
Speaker 1: go off in the middle of the night at like

558
00:29:39,160 --> 00:29:41,680
Speaker 1: two am. You're sleeping great, and it's by the way,

559
00:29:41,720 --> 00:29:44,280
Speaker 1: the battery's out, and so then you've got to figure

560
00:29:44,320 --> 00:29:46,520
Speaker 1: out how to replace it. You're climbing on a ladder,

561
00:29:46,600 --> 00:29:49,280
Speaker 1: you feel like you're gonna die because you're gonna fall

562
00:29:49,320 --> 00:29:51,440
Speaker 1: off and hit your head, and the beeping won't start.

563
00:29:51,680 --> 00:29:53,960
Speaker 1: It's the intermittent, right, It's the intermittent.

564
00:29:54,040 --> 00:29:56,880
Speaker 2: Oh, the little chirp, that little little chirp beep that

565
00:29:57,040 --> 00:30:00,120
Speaker 2: just grew sleep. Clay lives in a castle. So it's

566
00:30:00,120 --> 00:30:02,360
Speaker 2: fun because I get lost sometimes when I visit him,

567
00:30:02,400 --> 00:30:04,920
Speaker 2: and I'm like, I'm like yelling for Laura. I'm like,

568
00:30:04,960 --> 00:30:07,520
Speaker 2: I'm in the south wing and there's like a drawbridge

569
00:30:07,520 --> 00:30:10,720
Speaker 2: that has to So Clay's house is enormous and and

570
00:30:11,280 --> 00:30:13,719
Speaker 2: I can imagine. The thing about that little chirp noise

571
00:30:14,120 --> 00:30:15,880
Speaker 2: is that if you have where it's coming, you'll never

572
00:30:15,880 --> 00:30:17,960
Speaker 2: know where it is. So then you start to lose

573
00:30:18,000 --> 00:30:19,640
Speaker 2: your mind, like then you start to turn into Jack

574
00:30:19,720 --> 00:30:22,920
Speaker 2: Nicholson in the Shining, because each one of those little

575
00:30:22,960 --> 00:30:24,160
Speaker 2: things could be.

576
00:30:24,400 --> 00:30:27,280
Speaker 1: The amount of time that I have spent walking around

577
00:30:27,360 --> 00:30:29,960
Speaker 1: in the middle of the night in my underwear trying

578
00:30:30,000 --> 00:30:32,600
Speaker 1: to figure out where the fire alarm is that is chirping.

579
00:30:32,640 --> 00:30:35,720
Speaker 1: By the way, fire alarms have thankfully never gone off

580
00:30:35,760 --> 00:30:37,800
Speaker 1: for any reason that we've needed them, right, and I

581
00:30:37,800 --> 00:30:39,400
Speaker 1: don't even know what the rules are. There are some

582
00:30:39,520 --> 00:30:41,920
Speaker 1: parts of our house where we have fire alarms that

583
00:30:41,960 --> 00:30:44,560
Speaker 1: are separated about like five feet, so you talk about

584
00:30:44,600 --> 00:30:46,400
Speaker 1: like even if you're narrow. I don't know what. I

585
00:30:46,440 --> 00:30:48,520
Speaker 1: guess maybe one room is classified one way and the

586
00:30:48,520 --> 00:30:50,360
Speaker 1: other way. I don't know why they do that, but

587
00:30:50,440 --> 00:30:53,680
Speaker 1: I'll stand there literally between the two trying to determine

588
00:30:53,680 --> 00:30:56,000
Speaker 1: which direction it's going. It's two thirty in the morning,

589
00:30:56,360 --> 00:30:58,000
Speaker 1: and this was even worse buck when I used to

590
00:30:58,040 --> 00:30:59,800
Speaker 1: get up at four twenty in the morning. You know,

591
00:31:00,120 --> 00:31:03,040
Speaker 1: my morning radio show for five years, there's nothing worse

592
00:31:03,080 --> 00:31:04,480
Speaker 1: than getting up at four to twenty. I know a

593
00:31:04,520 --> 00:31:05,880
Speaker 1: lot of you out there get up early in the morning,

594
00:31:05,920 --> 00:31:08,320
Speaker 1: you know what I'm talking about. When that alarm goes off.

595
00:31:08,480 --> 00:31:10,840
Speaker 1: The only thing worse than that is when the fire

596
00:31:10,880 --> 00:31:13,360
Speaker 1: alarm starts chirping at two thirty and you're like, I

597
00:31:13,400 --> 00:31:15,440
Speaker 1: got to be up, and you know in an hour

598
00:31:15,480 --> 00:31:17,960
Speaker 1: and twenty minutes, I'm only sleeping like four hours. Anyway.

599
00:31:18,640 --> 00:31:22,680
Speaker 1: All that said, none of it compares on the airplane

600
00:31:22,920 --> 00:31:25,040
Speaker 1: to all of you infidels out there.

601
00:31:25,240 --> 00:31:27,400
Speaker 2: You know, some people see some people where I live,

602
00:31:27,480 --> 00:31:31,160
Speaker 2: have they They've heard the stories of my triumph over

603
00:31:31,160 --> 00:31:34,840
Speaker 2: Bust twenty seven, for example, So you know, maybe you're

604
00:31:34,880 --> 00:31:36,880
Speaker 2: now a hero of the community. I am.

605
00:31:36,960 --> 00:31:38,600
Speaker 1: I am kind of a You might be able to

606
00:31:38,600 --> 00:31:41,920
Speaker 1: get elected to the local Miami Beach Board of Directors

607
00:31:42,000 --> 00:31:44,160
Speaker 1: or whatever they have there, just based on your triumph

608
00:31:44,200 --> 00:31:45,120
Speaker 1: over Bust twenty seven.

609
00:31:45,240 --> 00:31:47,760
Speaker 2: I'm kind of like the robin Hood of annoying sounds

610
00:31:47,800 --> 00:31:50,520
Speaker 2: and there you go. So just tell it, everybody. I

611
00:31:50,520 --> 00:31:51,960
Speaker 2: think I told you once I was filling in for

612
00:31:52,040 --> 00:31:55,480
Speaker 2: Rush and it was I think it was new Year's eve,

613
00:31:55,680 --> 00:31:58,080
Speaker 2: and I said Christmas Eve like the start of the show,

614
00:31:58,280 --> 00:32:00,280
Speaker 2: which isn't a big deal except when you're filling in

615
00:32:00,320 --> 00:32:02,480
Speaker 2: for Rush, like you don't want you know, your first

616
00:32:03,120 --> 00:32:05,560
Speaker 2: your first like statement to be like, I don't know

617
00:32:05,600 --> 00:32:08,080
Speaker 2: what day it is. Everyone you know, it wasn't my

618
00:32:08,800 --> 00:32:12,960
Speaker 2: it wasn't my best moment. So anyway we have I

619
00:32:13,000 --> 00:32:15,560
Speaker 2: want to take this out actually because people get it's funny,

620
00:32:15,560 --> 00:32:17,800
Speaker 2: isn't the people get fired up about the day to

621
00:32:17,880 --> 00:32:23,480
Speaker 2: day things. We didn't talk about this the restaurant, I

622
00:32:23,480 --> 00:32:26,160
Speaker 2: forget where it was, but they find parents they added

623
00:32:26,160 --> 00:32:31,080
Speaker 2: a fifty dollars poor parenting fee onto their check because

624
00:32:31,080 --> 00:32:33,960
Speaker 2: their kids were so poorly behaved during to dinner. I

625
00:32:33,960 --> 00:32:35,920
Speaker 2: don't know if this is like really enforceable for a

626
00:32:35,920 --> 00:32:38,320
Speaker 2: restaurant to do, but I like the spirit of it.

627
00:32:38,640 --> 00:32:40,880
Speaker 2: And people got very very mad at me, although I

628
00:32:40,920 --> 00:32:43,600
Speaker 2: will admit that right now this puppy is kicking my butt,

629
00:32:43,680 --> 00:32:45,280
Speaker 2: man betting my hand.

630
00:32:46,560 --> 00:32:52,880
Speaker 1: All buck young children takes to be collated and brought together,

631
00:32:53,760 --> 00:32:58,360
Speaker 1: because when Buck has young children, I think all of

632
00:32:58,400 --> 00:33:02,120
Speaker 1: these perspectives will wrap it change. In general, I agree

633
00:33:02,160 --> 00:33:05,160
Speaker 1: that you should try to get your kids well behaved

634
00:33:05,240 --> 00:33:08,200
Speaker 1: at restaurants, and I like to think, having raised three,

635
00:33:08,880 --> 00:33:11,880
Speaker 1: that for the most part, we've never really ruined anybody's

636
00:33:12,120 --> 00:33:15,400
Speaker 1: that I can remember, restaurant or meal I have had.

637
00:33:15,960 --> 00:33:18,280
Speaker 1: Every one of my kids has I'm not even kidding

638
00:33:18,280 --> 00:33:20,800
Speaker 1: about this, has thrown up with me, has thrown up

639
00:33:20,800 --> 00:33:24,600
Speaker 1: on me on an airplane when they were young. Every

640
00:33:24,680 --> 00:33:27,680
Speaker 1: single one of them, that's rough, threw up on me

641
00:33:27,960 --> 00:33:31,520
Speaker 1: on an airplane. So at some point when they were young,

642
00:33:31,680 --> 00:33:35,880
Speaker 1: like lap children, legit throw up like That's a lot

643
00:33:35,920 --> 00:33:39,200
Speaker 1: of parents out there have experienced it. So my general

644
00:33:39,240 --> 00:33:43,480
Speaker 1: reaction is I just feel bad for the parents when

645
00:33:43,480 --> 00:33:46,560
Speaker 1: a kid loses it, because I know there are lots

646
00:33:46,560 --> 00:33:50,120
Speaker 1: of good parents that have kids lose it, and so

647
00:33:50,840 --> 00:33:52,160
Speaker 1: I have sympathy there, don't.

648
00:33:52,200 --> 00:33:54,720
Speaker 2: I don't think you can ruin everyone else's linguini. I

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Speaker 2: think you've got to step outside. I'm sorry. Dara in Raleigh,

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Speaker 2: North Carolina is a flight of ten and then wants

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Speaker 2: to weigh in on the seat reclining.

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Speaker 9: What's up, Dara, Hi, I just want to say that

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Speaker 9: I love you two. You guys are great. My first

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Speaker 9: time calling. I'm just I'm just getting over the flu,

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Speaker 9: so I'm a little bit rasty here, but yeah, I

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Speaker 9: would have to say that the majority of the arguments

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Speaker 9: that are on the plane is definitely putting your seat back,

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Speaker 9: and especially if you're over six foot and if you

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Speaker 9: don't get the bulkhead or if you don't get seated

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Speaker 9: and the emergency exits, and yeah, you have a huge problem.

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Speaker 1: So what how do you handle that?

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Speaker 2: Then?

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Speaker 1: I bet it is like a major I would bet

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Speaker 1: you know. Masking obviously was incredibly difficult for you guys

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Speaker 1: to handle. But what do you say? Do you try

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Speaker 1: to relocate people because it's it's kind of like the

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Speaker 1: fight's not going to get better during the course of

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Speaker 1: the flight, right.

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Speaker 9: Right?

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Speaker 8: I do.

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Speaker 9: I don't know about the other flight attendants, but I do.

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Speaker 9: I always, I always try to receet them. I mean

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Speaker 9: it's a little you know, if they're by themselves, then

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Speaker 9: it's a little bit easier. If they're with a family,

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Speaker 9: it's obviously a little bit harder if they want to

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Speaker 9: stay with their family. But yes, I always try to

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Speaker 9: receive them, and then I always try to tell them

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Speaker 9: that they should book either at the bulkhead or at

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Speaker 9: the emergency exits.

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Speaker 1: No doubt, would you prefer as a flight attendant if

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Speaker 1: seats did not recline.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 9: Well, I was listening to that about the night flights

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Speaker 9: and that was hysterical. Yeah, and that was hysterical because

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Speaker 9: I wish we did have planes like that, but unfortunately

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Speaker 9: are planes that we use for overnighters, like maybe in

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Speaker 9: LA to New York. There are planes that we also

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Speaker 9: use during the day, so we can't do that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, thank you for the call. By the way, appreciate

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Speaker 1: all the work she does. Don't recline your seats. Be

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Speaker 1: a good human