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Speaker 1: But Matt, it's super Bowl, super Bowl Friday, super Bowl Eve. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: so um, talk a lot about that today. Talk a

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Speaker 1: lot about how just the the team building in general.

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Speaker 1: It seems to always be a big topic right before

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Speaker 1: the Super Bowl, you know, like, how did how did

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Speaker 1: these two teams get built? You know, what can we

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Speaker 1: learn to try to get there? And what are some lessons?

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Speaker 1: And it's a good time to reflect on the season

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Speaker 1: all that type of thing. And I think we have

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Speaker 1: a pretty cool conversation here, I was, I was looking

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Speaker 1: at some stuff um during the week here and there.

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Speaker 1: There's a lot of speculation and it starts, of course

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Speaker 1: with the Stafford trade. Um. Our team is gonna be

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Speaker 1: you know, because the Buccaneers did with Tom Brady, and

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Speaker 1: they went out and signed Tom Brady. Is just the

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Speaker 1: way to go. Go get yourself a veteran quarterback. And

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Speaker 1: we talked about this last off season. They just needed

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Speaker 1: we talked about all offseason, even before Brady became a Buck,

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Speaker 1: was just don't turn them all over a time. You

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Speaker 1: have a really good defense, you've got receivers, and that's

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Speaker 1: kind of what Brady was. And then he got better

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Speaker 1: and they end up in the super Bowl. And it

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Speaker 1: does that mean going and adding a quarterback your team

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Speaker 1: The whole idea of of just we you know, people again,

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Speaker 1: Give me who do you want to be the quarterback?

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Speaker 1: Because Mason Rudolph's not a is not a step up

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Speaker 1: And these are the same people that who want to

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Speaker 1: no sense of bringing them back. If you're gonna go

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Speaker 1: Welcome back. I'm Dale Lally here with Matt Williamson. You're

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Speaker 1: few and far between. Um oh seven, ja Marcus Russell

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Speaker 1: number one overall, Brady Quinnon at Kevin Cobb in the

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Speaker 1: second round, John Beck in the second rounds of the Dolphins,

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Speaker 1: Drew Stanton eleventh in the second round. Uh Ryan's Trent

425
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Speaker 1: at Trent Edwards in the third round of the Bills.

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Speaker 1: Um Isaiah stand Back to the Cowboys in the fourth round.

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Speaker 1: In the fifth round, it was Jeff Rowe and Troy

428
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Speaker 1: Smith to the Bengals and Ravens in the sixth round.

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Speaker 1: Jordan Palmer to Washington in the seventh Tyler Tyler Thigpen

430
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Speaker 1: to the Vikings. That's a bad no one got their

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Speaker 1: answer a quarterback the year nobody, nobody was happy with

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Speaker 1: their draft. And there were and there were five taken.

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Speaker 1: In the ear by pick eleven of the second round,

434
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Speaker 1: there were five quarterbacks taken. That's that's that's investing a

435
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Speaker 1: lot of draft capital. I mean, Russell's a historic bost

436
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Speaker 1: two thousand eight, Matt Ryan third overall. This is an

437
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Speaker 1: interesting year because from two thousand eight until I was

438
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Speaker 1: a place. We get there are only one first rounders

439
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Speaker 1: still with their team. But Ryan's a hit. Joe Flacco

440
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Speaker 1: went eighteen that year. That's a that's a hit. Yeah yeah.

441
00:24:11,520 --> 00:24:14,240
Speaker 1: Brian bram went to the Packers in the second round.

442
00:24:14,640 --> 00:24:16,560
Speaker 1: Also in the second round with the next pick, Chad

443
00:24:16,600 --> 00:24:20,879
Speaker 1: Henny to the Dolphins. Um, I guess that's a hit.

444
00:24:21,119 --> 00:24:24,000
Speaker 1: He's still he's still in the league. He started some games.

445
00:24:24,600 --> 00:24:27,360
Speaker 1: Has a fourth rounder. Yeah, I get it. Kevin O'Connell

446
00:24:27,440 --> 00:24:29,800
Speaker 1: in the third round of the Patriots. A lot of

447
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Speaker 1: coaches on this list, yeah, John David Booty in the

448
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Speaker 1: fifth round of the Vikings, Dennis Dixon in the fifth

449
00:24:36,400 --> 00:24:38,840
Speaker 1: round of the Steelers. Much like Jacobs, take a shot

450
00:24:38,880 --> 00:24:41,440
Speaker 1: on a good athlete. Josh Johnson in the fifth round

451
00:24:41,480 --> 00:24:43,359
Speaker 1: to the Buccaneers. He played a little bit and he

452
00:24:43,440 --> 00:24:47,119
Speaker 1: started a year for them. Yeah. Eric eric Inge to

453
00:24:47,240 --> 00:24:51,080
Speaker 1: the Jets, Colt Brennan to Washington in the sixth round.

454
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Speaker 1: In the sixth round, Andre Woodson to the Giants in

455
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Speaker 1: the seventh round, Matt Flynn to the Packers. I guess

456
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Speaker 1: that's a hit. That's probably a hit. They turned him

457
00:24:59,560 --> 00:25:01,680
Speaker 1: into some gave I mean, gave him a big contract.

458
00:25:01,720 --> 00:25:03,399
Speaker 1: And then drafted Russell Wilson and we never heard of

459
00:25:03,400 --> 00:25:07,040
Speaker 1: finning again. Alex Brink in the seventh round to the text, Yeah,

460
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Speaker 1: two thousand nine. Matthew Stafford number one overall. This is

461
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Speaker 1: interesting because he's not with he's not with his team now.

462
00:25:14,440 --> 00:25:16,320
Speaker 1: But that was worth it. That was worth it. Mark

463
00:25:16,400 --> 00:25:20,960
Speaker 1: Sanchez fifth overall, worth it. They made a couple of

464
00:25:21,000 --> 00:25:23,200
Speaker 1: AFC championships with him. When did he get out of

465
00:25:23,240 --> 00:25:25,960
Speaker 1: the league? Though, I mean, I know Stafford is not young,

466
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Speaker 1: but if Sanchez was a hit, Sanchez played about eight years. Uh,

467
00:25:32,240 --> 00:25:35,600
Speaker 1: Josh Freeman to the Bucks, he played a little. I mean,

468
00:25:35,640 --> 00:25:37,679
Speaker 1: all these guys, Sanchez was a bigger hit than him.

469
00:25:37,680 --> 00:25:41,600
Speaker 1: But Sanchez was also the fifth overall pick. Pat White

470
00:25:41,640 --> 00:25:45,600
Speaker 1: in the second round to the Dolphins. Fourth round that year,

471
00:25:45,640 --> 00:25:48,400
Speaker 1: Stephen McGhee to the Cowboys. I don't remember him, Yeah,

472
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Speaker 1: fifth round, Reet Beaumar to the Giants, Nate Davis to

473
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Speaker 1: the forty Niners. In the sixth round, Tim brand Stater

474
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Speaker 1: to the Broncos. Uh, Mike Teel to the Seahawks, and

475
00:26:01,640 --> 00:26:05,080
Speaker 1: Keith Noll to the Rams. Remember all these to a

476
00:26:05,160 --> 00:26:07,480
Speaker 1: Curtis Painter also in the sixth round that year to

477
00:26:07,520 --> 00:26:09,480
Speaker 1: the Colts. Do you remember all these guys were great

478
00:26:09,560 --> 00:26:12,840
Speaker 1: college football players, great college quarterbacks that are there might

479
00:26:12,880 --> 00:26:14,840
Speaker 1: be a statue of them at their small schools or whatever,

480
00:26:14,920 --> 00:26:20,200
Speaker 1: you know. Two thousand Sam Bradford number one overall. I

481
00:26:20,280 --> 00:26:23,960
Speaker 1: don't totally crush him as a bust. A lot of injuries,

482
00:26:24,760 --> 00:26:26,440
Speaker 1: but didn't live up to it. Didn't live like when

483
00:26:26,440 --> 00:26:28,919
Speaker 1: the number number one pick. No not worthy. No, I mean,

484
00:26:29,280 --> 00:26:33,560
Speaker 1: certainly better than JaMarcus Russell, right, but not you know,

485
00:26:34,720 --> 00:26:37,920
Speaker 1: not Matt Stafford's injuries. Yeah. Also picked in the first

486
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Speaker 1: round that year, Tim Tebow. I mean, it's easy for

487
00:26:41,960 --> 00:26:44,159
Speaker 1: me to say now, but I killed that pick. That

488
00:26:44,240 --> 00:26:47,439
Speaker 1: was what Josh McDaniels thinking, he was smarter than everybody else. Uh.

489
00:26:47,520 --> 00:26:50,680
Speaker 1: In the second round that year, it's sixteen overall, Jimmy Clawson.

490
00:26:52,480 --> 00:26:55,800
Speaker 1: In the third round, Colt McCoy. He's still kicking. I

491
00:26:55,840 --> 00:26:58,040
Speaker 1: mean for a third round pick, that's something to be said.

492
00:26:58,119 --> 00:27:00,600
Speaker 1: But in the fourth round, Mike Kafka, who's will be

493
00:27:00,680 --> 00:27:02,959
Speaker 1: coaching in the Super Bowl this year, is a quarterbacks

494
00:27:04,080 --> 00:27:07,600
Speaker 1: coaches fifty fifth round picks that year, we're John Skelton

495
00:27:07,680 --> 00:27:12,159
Speaker 1: and Jonathan Crompton, Jonathan straight out of Crompton. In the

496
00:27:12,200 --> 00:27:16,280
Speaker 1: sixth round, it was Rusty Smith, Dan la Fever, Uh,

497
00:27:16,640 --> 00:27:20,280
Speaker 1: Joe Webb, and Tony Pike. In the seventh round it

498
00:27:20,359 --> 00:27:23,960
Speaker 1: was Levi Brown, Sean Canfield and Zach Robinson, who's a

499
00:27:24,000 --> 00:27:29,240
Speaker 1: coach now. Yeah, he was by the Patriots as well.

500
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Speaker 1: Two thousand eleven, Cam Newton number one overall. That's a hit. Yeah,

501
00:27:35,600 --> 00:27:39,359
Speaker 1: you also had at eight Jake Locker, not a hit.

502
00:27:40,600 --> 00:27:43,720
Speaker 1: Number ten was Blaine Gabbert. He could win a Super

503
00:27:43,760 --> 00:27:47,240
Speaker 1: Bowl ring though. The next one is even worse. Twelve

504
00:27:47,320 --> 00:27:50,640
Speaker 1: overall that year it's Christian Ponder. This is the year

505
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Speaker 1: that's twelfth overall pick. Yeah. The other picks in the

506
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Speaker 1: top twelve over like Julio A. J. Green, Watts, Patrick Peterson,

507
00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:04,359
Speaker 1: Cam Heyward, Studs Galore. I just loaded that draft was

508
00:28:06,119 --> 00:28:08,520
Speaker 1: Uh in the second round, Andy Dalton with the third

509
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Speaker 1: overall pick. Yeah. Uh with the fourth pick in the

510
00:28:12,240 --> 00:28:16,159
Speaker 1: third round, Colin Kaepernick, Uh with the third in the

511
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Speaker 1: third round, Ryan Mallett third round, Um fifth round, Ryan

512
00:28:23,320 --> 00:28:28,800
Speaker 1: Stanzy also in the fifth round, t J. Yates, Nathan

513
00:28:29,400 --> 00:28:33,600
Speaker 1: Enderley in the sixth round, Tyrod Taylor's great. Yeah, I

514
00:28:33,680 --> 00:28:36,000
Speaker 1: mean he's that but that's a journeyman quarterback. That's one

515
00:28:36,040 --> 00:28:39,000
Speaker 1: of the only ones from Round five on since Brady

516
00:28:39,080 --> 00:28:41,760
Speaker 1: they have even been relevant. And then in the seventh round,

517
00:28:42,120 --> 00:28:48,200
Speaker 1: Greg McElroy Terrell Prior was a was actually a supplemental

518
00:28:48,400 --> 00:28:51,280
Speaker 1: supplemental pick that year, third pick overall. I believe Rember

519
00:28:51,280 --> 00:28:53,040
Speaker 1: you got in trouble to Ohio State and came out.

520
00:28:53,760 --> 00:28:56,320
Speaker 1: He went back to the Raiders two thousand twelve. Andrew

521
00:28:56,400 --> 00:29:00,520
Speaker 1: Luck that's a home run. He just he's the tricks here.

522
00:29:00,680 --> 00:29:03,800
Speaker 1: If he gave it up. Robert Griffin, that's a miss.

523
00:29:04,360 --> 00:29:05,800
Speaker 1: I mean, he was one rookie the year and he

524
00:29:05,840 --> 00:29:07,600
Speaker 1: was good for a little second overall pick in the draft.

525
00:29:07,720 --> 00:29:11,160
Speaker 1: Ryan tanney Hill at eight, that's a hit. But but yeah,

526
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Speaker 1: not for the team that the drafted right twenty two

527
00:29:14,480 --> 00:29:18,640
Speaker 1: was Brandon Weeden not a hit? What would he be

528
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Speaker 1: right now? Well, he was twenty, he was he was

529
00:29:22,760 --> 00:29:24,360
Speaker 1: older than Ben when they drafted him. I mean, you

530
00:29:24,440 --> 00:29:27,640
Speaker 1: gotta think of when his first contract comes up after

531
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Speaker 1: you pick up his option. He's started three This was

532
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Speaker 1: two thousand twelve, and I believe he was older than

533
00:29:33,400 --> 00:29:36,600
Speaker 1: Ben that he was still. Yeah, I don't doubt brock

534
00:29:36,680 --> 00:29:39,120
Speaker 1: Ost Wilder in the second round. He had a flash,

535
00:29:39,200 --> 00:29:42,840
Speaker 1: but that's a miss. Russell Wilson and the third BIG's

536
00:29:42,880 --> 00:29:44,440
Speaker 1: not many of those, but that's the home run. Nick

537
00:29:44,520 --> 00:29:47,400
Speaker 1: Foles was picked right after him. You'll take that, yeah, right,

538
00:29:47,520 --> 00:29:50,000
Speaker 1: as was Kirk Cousins in the fourth round. One of

539
00:29:50,040 --> 00:29:52,080
Speaker 1: the best picks in that draft. Yeah, but this is

540
00:29:52,480 --> 00:29:54,480
Speaker 1: this is a pretty good quarterback, the first one we've

541
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Speaker 1: had in a while. Ryan Linley in the sixth round.

542
00:29:57,640 --> 00:30:00,720
Speaker 1: He played a little bit. Be J Coleman in the

543
00:30:00,800 --> 00:30:03,400
Speaker 1: seventh round, and then Chandler Harnish in the seventh round.

544
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Speaker 1: So that's that's a pretty good that's a pretty good

545
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Speaker 1: quarterback draft. And there were still some big misses and

546
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Speaker 1: Luck was the luck was Trevor Lawrence. Yeah. I mean,

547
00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:13,960
Speaker 1: my sister could have taken him, but you know, Luck

548
00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:16,040
Speaker 1: is better than Trevor Lawrence. I think I'll take Luck

549
00:30:16,080 --> 00:30:19,320
Speaker 1: over just about any prospect I've ever seen. Yeah, two

550
00:30:19,400 --> 00:30:23,480
Speaker 1: thousand thirteen the opposite, Oh yeah, yeah yeah. E J.

551
00:30:23,720 --> 00:30:28,040
Speaker 1: Manuel and was the only first round pick is sixteenth

552
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Speaker 1: overall by the Bills. I remember thinking, Wow, I can't

553
00:30:31,280 --> 00:30:33,840
Speaker 1: believe he's even gonna be on the first GENO Smith

554
00:30:34,680 --> 00:30:37,360
Speaker 1: with the second pick with the second in the second round,

555
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Speaker 1: the seventh overall, Mike Glennon in the third round. This

556
00:30:41,360 --> 00:30:43,600
Speaker 1: is the worst quarterback draft ever. But Matt Barkley in

557
00:30:43,640 --> 00:30:45,960
Speaker 1: the fourth round, Ryan the Sebe in the fourth round,

558
00:30:46,040 --> 00:30:49,160
Speaker 1: Tyler Wilson in the fourth round, Landry Jones in the

559
00:30:49,240 --> 00:30:53,160
Speaker 1: fourth round, uh, Brad Sorenson in the seventh round, Zach

560
00:30:53,280 --> 00:30:55,640
Speaker 1: Diceert in the seventh round, and b J Daniels and

561
00:30:55,680 --> 00:31:00,440
Speaker 1: Sean Remfrey in the seventh round. When Landry Jones second

562
00:31:00,520 --> 00:31:03,640
Speaker 1: or third best, I think Glennon is probably the best,

563
00:31:03,680 --> 00:31:07,680
Speaker 1: and he's bad. You could make an argument for Barkley,

564
00:31:07,720 --> 00:31:09,640
Speaker 1: you can make an argument for Glennon. That's the worst

565
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Speaker 1: quarterback draft. That's pretty pretty damn maybe in the history

566
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Speaker 1: of the world. Yeah, pretty damn bad. Two thousand and fourteen.

567
00:31:15,440 --> 00:31:20,080
Speaker 1: Bordles Manzill uh, Teddy Bridgewater all in the first round,

568
00:31:20,520 --> 00:31:22,880
Speaker 1: Derek Carr in the second round. Says that Jimmy Garoppolo

569
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Speaker 1: in the second round. Those are far better than the

570
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Speaker 1: first round pick. Yeah, in the fourth round. It was

571
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Speaker 1: Logan Thomas and Tom Savage in the fifth round, Aaron Murray,

572
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Speaker 1: h A. J. Mccaren, Zach Mettenberger, in the sixth round

573
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Speaker 1: along with David fails Keith winning, Taj boyd uh and

574
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Speaker 1: then Garrett Gilbert closed it out in the sixth round.

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Speaker 1: Group second round much better, I mean Carr and Garoppolo

576
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Speaker 1: or starters. Yeah, the boy the first round was bad.

577
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Speaker 1: Fifteen Jamis Winston, Marcus Mariotta in the first round. Then

578
00:31:53,920 --> 00:31:56,920
Speaker 1: I feel like their books aren't written. But neither one

579
00:31:56,920 --> 00:31:59,400
Speaker 1: of him a starter right now. They both could be

580
00:31:59,480 --> 00:32:01,840
Speaker 1: next year, they both might, but they could not be

581
00:32:01,960 --> 00:32:04,120
Speaker 1: to could not be right. I think there's an incomplete

582
00:32:04,120 --> 00:32:05,560
Speaker 1: grade on them, but they're not worth the first and

583
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Speaker 1: second pick um in this. In the third round that

584
00:32:08,760 --> 00:32:13,480
Speaker 1: you're Garrett Grayson and Sean Manion not good. Not good

585
00:32:14,160 --> 00:32:16,120
Speaker 1: in the fourth round, Bryce Petty in the fifth round,

586
00:32:16,160 --> 00:32:20,160
Speaker 1: Brett Huntley in the seventh round. Trevor Simeon. Yeah. I

587
00:32:20,200 --> 00:32:24,880
Speaker 1: mean they all had a little moment clashes here. Sixteen

588
00:32:25,160 --> 00:32:29,080
Speaker 1: Jared Goffe number one overall, Carson Wentz number two overall,

589
00:32:29,400 --> 00:32:34,760
Speaker 1: Paxton Lynch went twenty six, Christian Hackenburg in the second round.

590
00:32:35,240 --> 00:32:38,560
Speaker 1: In the third round, it was Jacobi Burssett yeah, and

591
00:32:38,760 --> 00:32:43,280
Speaker 1: Cody Kessler. In the fourth round, it was Connor Cook,

592
00:32:43,800 --> 00:32:49,160
Speaker 1: Dak Prescott un Krdale Jones, and in the fifth round,

593
00:32:49,200 --> 00:32:51,600
Speaker 1: it was Kevin Hogan. In the sixth round, Nate Sudfeld,

594
00:32:52,400 --> 00:32:56,320
Speaker 1: Jake Ruddock, and Brandon Allen uh oh, and also a

595
00:32:56,440 --> 00:33:00,360
Speaker 1: Jeffre Drisco. And then the seventh rounder Brandon Dowdy. Okay,

596
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Speaker 1: I mean Alan's worth the sixth round pick yeah, seventeen,

597
00:33:04,440 --> 00:33:10,760
Speaker 1: Mitch Trobinsky, Yeah, that's good. And then Pat Mahomes, DeShawn Watson.

598
00:33:11,040 --> 00:33:13,120
Speaker 1: Then it was DeShawn Deshaun Kaiser in the second round,

599
00:33:13,240 --> 00:33:15,360
Speaker 1: Davis Webb in the third round, c J Bethard in

600
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Speaker 1: the third round, Josh Dobbs, Yeah, Josh Dobbs in the

601
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Speaker 1: fourth round, Nathan Peterman in the fifth round, in the

602
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Speaker 1: sixth round, Chad brad Kaya in the seventh round, Chad

603
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Speaker 1: Kelly two home runs, I mean home runs Trabinsky and yeah,

604
00:33:32,160 --> 00:33:33,880
Speaker 1: I mean Trabisky might get it. I mean he's gonna

605
00:33:33,880 --> 00:33:35,840
Speaker 1: be a football player. He'll be a football player. I

606
00:33:35,840 --> 00:33:39,080
Speaker 1: don't know if he'd be a starter. Eighteen Baker Mayfield,

607
00:33:39,120 --> 00:33:42,080
Speaker 1: Sam Donald, Josh Allen, Josh Rosen, Lamar Jackson all in

608
00:33:42,120 --> 00:33:44,640
Speaker 1: the first round. And that all looks great, but history

609
00:33:47,200 --> 00:33:50,080
Speaker 1: history shows that those four might not keep up looking

610
00:33:50,120 --> 00:33:52,440
Speaker 1: great though, you know, uh then you of course that

611
00:33:52,560 --> 00:33:54,840
Speaker 1: made some Rudolph in the third round, in the fourth round,

612
00:33:54,880 --> 00:33:58,200
Speaker 1: Kyle Loletta, Mike White in the fifth round, Luke Falk

613
00:33:58,360 --> 00:34:01,040
Speaker 1: and Tanner Lee in the sixth round. In the seventh round,

614
00:34:01,120 --> 00:34:06,440
Speaker 1: Danny at Island, Alex mcgow logan Woodside. Rudolph's not looking

615
00:34:06,520 --> 00:34:08,640
Speaker 1: bad compared to the last twenties. Some of these other

616
00:34:08,680 --> 00:34:12,200
Speaker 1: guys you mentioned, right, well, we won't go on from there,

617
00:34:12,239 --> 00:34:15,040
Speaker 1: but the other guys are still out on that. But

618
00:34:15,160 --> 00:34:19,560
Speaker 1: you see the names and there there might be more

619
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Speaker 1: missus at the quarterback position than any other. There has

620
00:34:22,360 --> 00:34:24,799
Speaker 1: to be at least are more high profiles. You'd be like, oh,

621
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Speaker 1: that's a hit if you did running backs, like I

622
00:34:26,600 --> 00:34:29,000
Speaker 1: gotta hit that one, right, you know. But my stat

623
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Speaker 1: is what year was was Matt Ryan? I think he's

624
00:34:31,840 --> 00:34:35,000
Speaker 1: threw that on four? Does that he was two? So

625
00:34:35,680 --> 00:34:39,239
Speaker 1: since that draft up until the mayfield or until the

626
00:34:39,400 --> 00:34:41,880
Speaker 1: home you can take it beyond that because you go

627
00:34:42,000 --> 00:34:44,560
Speaker 1: back to the two thousand four draft with a while

628
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Speaker 1: with Roethlisberger start there. I mean, if you go there

629
00:34:48,640 --> 00:34:51,040
Speaker 1: are only three teams and three quarterbacks who were still

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Speaker 1: with first round quarterbacks who are still with their their

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Speaker 1: current teams as Ben and Ryan and Carson Wentz. Who's

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00:34:58,560 --> 00:35:01,080
Speaker 1: on the block. Yeah maybe you know, like my stat

633
00:35:01,280 --> 00:35:05,120
Speaker 1: was since Ryan's class up until Rogers in that group

634
00:35:05,160 --> 00:35:07,919
Speaker 1: as well, So it's four. Yeah, there was only one

635
00:35:08,280 --> 00:35:10,879
Speaker 1: for a stretch of like fifteen years, and that's that's

636
00:35:11,239 --> 00:35:13,440
Speaker 1: that's going back to two thousand fourteen or two thousand

637
00:35:13,520 --> 00:35:17,200
Speaker 1: four that's eighteen years, eighteen years, right, it makes me

638
00:35:17,239 --> 00:35:21,879
Speaker 1: feel old. Wow, exactly. So in Ben's lifetime, since him,

639
00:35:22,600 --> 00:35:26,600
Speaker 1: there's been three Wentz, Ryan Rodgers, and two of them

640
00:35:26,640 --> 00:35:29,439
Speaker 1: are long term dudes and one of them and yeah,

641
00:35:29,520 --> 00:35:34,160
Speaker 1: that's amazing, it's crazy. And Askin has already gone, Rosen

642
00:35:34,200 --> 00:35:36,719
Speaker 1: has already gone from We've already seen seen some of

643
00:35:36,760 --> 00:35:39,360
Speaker 1: these guys who in recent years who aren't obviously aren't

644
00:35:39,360 --> 00:35:42,360
Speaker 1: gonna aren't gonna be with the same teams either. That

645
00:35:42,400 --> 00:35:44,799
Speaker 1: doesn't mean Stafford stinks or luck, but I mean they're

646
00:35:44,840 --> 00:35:46,760
Speaker 1: not with the team that drafted him. It just shows

647
00:35:46,760 --> 00:35:48,120
Speaker 1: you that that when you make a move to go

648
00:35:48,200 --> 00:35:50,400
Speaker 1: get a quarterback, you better be pretty damn sure that

649
00:35:50,480 --> 00:35:51,960
Speaker 1: that guy is the guy. And the hit rate is

650
00:35:52,000 --> 00:35:53,959
Speaker 1: not good and the hit rate is not good because

651
00:35:54,000 --> 00:35:56,279
Speaker 1: a lot of those were trade ups. We didn't talk

652
00:35:56,280 --> 00:35:58,560
Speaker 1: about that either. I mean, they trade up for Golf,

653
00:35:58,640 --> 00:36:01,480
Speaker 1: they traded up for Wentz was a trade up. I mean,

654
00:36:01,600 --> 00:36:03,480
Speaker 1: there's been a lot of trade ups. I guess my

655
00:36:03,600 --> 00:36:06,560
Speaker 1: point with this is is that the people who want

656
00:36:06,560 --> 00:36:10,240
Speaker 1: to push Roethlisberger out the door, this is what quarterback

657
00:36:10,360 --> 00:36:14,480
Speaker 1: drafts look like. And it's not easy. And there's maybe

658
00:36:14,600 --> 00:36:17,759
Speaker 1: one or two every year who are hits, right, and

659
00:36:17,840 --> 00:36:20,759
Speaker 1: the rest of them, you're, you're, you're, You're just not.

660
00:36:21,120 --> 00:36:22,960
Speaker 1: It's just not worth it. And it doesn't mean you're

661
00:36:22,960 --> 00:36:25,600
Speaker 1: a terrible evaluators. Everyone want to take in Jamacus Russell

662
00:36:25,640 --> 00:36:28,719
Speaker 1: and maybe you're taking Calvin ahead of them, but nobody went, boy,

663
00:36:28,800 --> 00:36:32,399
Speaker 1: that's a terrible pick. Or even the Sanchez pick, nobody thought, wow,

664
00:36:32,520 --> 00:36:35,160
Speaker 1: that's crazy, you know, like not many of these were

665
00:36:35,680 --> 00:36:38,440
Speaker 1: always Volkes. What the heck are they thinking? Kind of

666
00:36:38,640 --> 00:36:42,480
Speaker 1: was manual was two thousand fourteen, Blake Bortles, Johnny Manzel,

667
00:36:42,520 --> 00:36:47,200
Speaker 1: Teddy Bridgewater, Yeah right, two thousand thirteen e j Manuel

668
00:36:47,239 --> 00:36:49,800
Speaker 1: Geno Smith, Mike Glenn and Matt Barkley. Ryan just go

669
00:36:49,880 --> 00:36:53,160
Speaker 1: down the line with that draft, right, you know, and

670
00:36:53,239 --> 00:36:55,640
Speaker 1: that's that's back to back years. That's two years where

671
00:36:55,640 --> 00:36:58,440
Speaker 1: there's really no quarterback talent coming into the league. And

672
00:36:58,520 --> 00:37:00,879
Speaker 1: it shows because there was a big gap. There were,

673
00:37:00,960 --> 00:37:03,480
Speaker 1: like like I said, just like a year or so

674
00:37:03,560 --> 00:37:05,840
Speaker 1: ago that how many guys. There was a lot of

675
00:37:05,880 --> 00:37:08,759
Speaker 1: old dudes the Bend and older groups and Rogers and

676
00:37:08,800 --> 00:37:11,359
Speaker 1: older and then there was the young crop, and then

677
00:37:11,360 --> 00:37:13,920
Speaker 1: there was a big gap. There were like Russell Wilson

678
00:37:14,000 --> 00:37:17,279
Speaker 1: and staff, and some of that young crop didn't and

679
00:37:17,320 --> 00:37:19,480
Speaker 1: they didn't keep up right right right right. You know,

680
00:37:19,560 --> 00:37:21,440
Speaker 1: there was a gap there of old guys and young

681
00:37:21,520 --> 00:37:23,680
Speaker 1: guys with like Wilson is the only guy in his prime,

682
00:37:24,440 --> 00:37:27,800
Speaker 1: and you know it's it's the young guys look promising.

683
00:37:27,880 --> 00:37:29,520
Speaker 1: We could look if we went through that again and

684
00:37:29,719 --> 00:37:33,319
Speaker 1: then checked off the the the quote unquote franchise quarterbacks,

685
00:37:33,880 --> 00:37:36,360
Speaker 1: there's about ten. There's about ten and then includes like

686
00:37:36,480 --> 00:37:39,640
Speaker 1: Dak who was a hit. But like you're thinking like

687
00:37:39,760 --> 00:37:42,520
Speaker 1: that Bordles, like I ever loved Bordles. I never understood

688
00:37:42,520 --> 00:37:45,160
Speaker 1: why he went so high. And remember the Jags kept

689
00:37:45,200 --> 00:37:47,240
Speaker 1: that like super quiet. Nobody knew that was gonna happen.

690
00:37:47,600 --> 00:37:50,319
Speaker 1: But even like Manzel and Bridgewater, who I didn't love either.

691
00:37:50,320 --> 00:37:53,920
Speaker 1: I didn't love that draft. Like it's super revisionist history,

692
00:37:53,960 --> 00:37:57,560
Speaker 1: it's super Monday quarterbacking. But like, whoever thought they were

693
00:37:57,600 --> 00:38:00,600
Speaker 1: first round picks, Like they don't have a lot of tools. Well,

694
00:38:00,640 --> 00:38:04,279
Speaker 1: the Jaguars brown, and so did Melvin Todd and a

695
00:38:04,360 --> 00:38:05,839
Speaker 1: lot of us. And we didn't bat and eye when

696
00:38:05,880 --> 00:38:08,160
Speaker 1: they took those guys in the first round. But the quarterbacks,

697
00:38:08,239 --> 00:38:11,000
Speaker 1: but their quarterbacks. But like they have a lot of flaws, right,

698
00:38:11,239 --> 00:38:12,880
Speaker 1: what did we think that? What were we hanging their

699
00:38:12,920 --> 00:38:16,600
Speaker 1: hats on at the time thinking they were franchise quarterbacks?

700
00:38:16,680 --> 00:38:19,440
Speaker 1: And I know we're probably well over, but I had

701
00:38:19,440 --> 00:38:22,239
Speaker 1: a good conversation about this on the podcast, and the

702
00:38:22,320 --> 00:38:25,040
Speaker 1: conclusion we came to is, when you do draft one

703
00:38:25,120 --> 00:38:27,840
Speaker 1: and this kind of works against Matt Jones, give me

704
00:38:27,960 --> 00:38:31,080
Speaker 1: someone that's unworldly, he better be special. Yeah, I mean,

705
00:38:31,200 --> 00:38:33,640
Speaker 1: I'll work with them, I'll coach them up. But these

706
00:38:33,680 --> 00:38:36,560
Speaker 1: guys that are doubles at the quarterback position, don't. I

707
00:38:36,560 --> 00:38:40,759
Speaker 1: don't want Bridgewater. When the Steelers took Cordell Stewart, give

708
00:38:40,800 --> 00:38:43,360
Speaker 1: me him, he was special. There were there was stuff

709
00:38:43,400 --> 00:38:45,560
Speaker 1: there to work with it you could say, Okay, maybe

710
00:38:45,600 --> 00:38:47,120
Speaker 1: he's not gonna come in and be ready to be

711
00:38:47,200 --> 00:38:49,320
Speaker 1: our starter right away. He's got warts, and we know,

712
00:38:49,560 --> 00:38:52,279
Speaker 1: but a couple of years from now, maybe you got something.

713
00:38:52,320 --> 00:38:54,600
Speaker 1: And if he came into the league today, he would

714
00:38:54,600 --> 00:38:57,960
Speaker 1: be a first round draft pick without question. Give me

715
00:38:58,080 --> 00:39:00,400
Speaker 1: Cam Newton, give me Josh Allen. You know those are

716
00:39:00,440 --> 00:39:03,440
Speaker 1: good examples. Give me JaMarcus Russell. I mean, give me

717
00:39:03,520 --> 00:39:07,040
Speaker 1: somebody that has rare tools. I think that's what you

718
00:39:07,120 --> 00:39:10,160
Speaker 1: need the position though. I mean Ben did coming out right,

719
00:39:10,280 --> 00:39:12,239
Speaker 1: and you look at that that the tops. Those three

720
00:39:12,280 --> 00:39:14,759
Speaker 1: guys went in the top, right, you know, I mean

721
00:39:14,800 --> 00:39:16,680
Speaker 1: you would you could say Rivers was maybe the least

722
00:39:16,719 --> 00:39:20,400
Speaker 1: talented overall of the three. They were great passers, and

723
00:39:21,040 --> 00:39:24,879
Speaker 1: but his accuracy was important back then. Yeah, you know, wow,

724
00:39:25,239 --> 00:39:27,200
Speaker 1: but he had special accuracy. Mean, if you're gonna miss

725
00:39:27,239 --> 00:39:29,759
Speaker 1: on Ryan Leaf, we didn't go back that far. He

726
00:39:29,840 --> 00:39:31,200
Speaker 1: had a lot of tools, right, you know what I

727
00:39:31,239 --> 00:39:34,719
Speaker 1: mean as opposed to we'll take Mac Jones and hope

728
00:39:34,760 --> 00:39:36,719
Speaker 1: he turns into a good character. I hope he turns

729
00:39:36,760 --> 00:39:39,040
Speaker 1: into Kirk Cousins. That's what I want a fourth rounder

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Speaker 1: to do, right, Yeah he is. Matt Williamson, I'm Dale Lali.

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Speaker 1: You're listening to the Drive here on Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 1: on Dale Ally here with Matt Williamson and Matt of course,

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Speaker 1: the Super Bowl taking place on Sunday. Uh, they don't official, well,

737
00:40:37,080 --> 00:40:39,719
Speaker 1: they do an announcement injury report, but there's also a

738
00:40:40,080 --> 00:40:43,200
Speaker 1: pool reporter at each practice in the from the league. Uh.

739
00:40:43,440 --> 00:40:48,120
Speaker 1: For the Buccaneers on um the most recent one, Uh,

740
00:40:48,320 --> 00:40:51,040
Speaker 1: Jason Pierre Paul with a knee injury did not participate

741
00:40:51,120 --> 00:40:52,759
Speaker 1: in practice. I spend two games in a row. But

742
00:40:52,800 --> 00:40:54,759
Speaker 1: I think there's been really cautious. Yeah. I mean he's

743
00:40:54,760 --> 00:40:57,600
Speaker 1: an older guy. They're taking rings with him. Uh. Antonio

744
00:40:57,680 --> 00:41:00,600
Speaker 1: Brown was limited on on Thursday day. He got back

745
00:41:00,640 --> 00:41:03,560
Speaker 1: a little bit. Lavonte David has a hamstring. Uh, he

746
00:41:03,719 --> 00:41:07,279
Speaker 1: was limited. Yeah, yeah, he's gonna play. Jordan Whitehead with

747
00:41:07,320 --> 00:41:10,160
Speaker 1: the shoulder was also limited, as was Antoine Winfield with

748
00:41:10,200 --> 00:41:12,680
Speaker 1: the ankle. For good things about Winfield player though, Yeah,

749
00:41:12,680 --> 00:41:14,960
Speaker 1: I think they'll both end up playing. All those guys

750
00:41:15,040 --> 00:41:17,480
Speaker 1: and if you're limited going into the super Bowl. You're playing,

751
00:41:17,520 --> 00:41:19,640
Speaker 1: You're playing. Yeah, that's the one I want to watch

752
00:41:19,719 --> 00:41:21,400
Speaker 1: early in the in the game though, is a B

753
00:41:21,800 --> 00:41:25,320
Speaker 1: because if he's they could be playing postam with that

754
00:41:25,360 --> 00:41:28,200
Speaker 1: one a little bit like if he's not, they have

755
00:41:28,280 --> 00:41:30,239
Speaker 1: other guys and they'd be fine. But he's a really

756
00:41:30,400 --> 00:41:32,399
Speaker 1: good player obviously, so are some of those other ones.

757
00:41:32,800 --> 00:41:34,839
Speaker 1: But I'm I'm really interested in that game to see

758
00:41:34,880 --> 00:41:37,520
Speaker 1: how much twelve personnel they used verse thirteen personnel, and

759
00:41:37,560 --> 00:41:39,879
Speaker 1: we can get into that down the road. But I'm

760
00:41:39,920 --> 00:41:42,759
Speaker 1: interested about the A B injury. Uh. Of course for

761
00:41:42,880 --> 00:41:46,000
Speaker 1: the Chiefs. Uh, Eric Fisher and Willie Gay are not

762
00:41:46,080 --> 00:41:49,600
Speaker 1: gonna play. Fisher with an achilles injury. Willie Gay had

763
00:41:49,680 --> 00:41:52,120
Speaker 1: knee ankle. I believe he had a surgery too, I

764
00:41:52,200 --> 00:41:54,880
Speaker 1: think so. Yeah. So so then their offensive lineman's all

765
00:41:54,880 --> 00:41:59,840
Speaker 1: back up. Yeah, Uh, I don't know they're there. Linebackers

766
00:41:59,880 --> 00:42:03,320
Speaker 1: are great cases. Neither not. But we talked about this

767
00:42:03,440 --> 00:42:05,560
Speaker 1: a lot and leading up to the draft last year.

768
00:42:05,600 --> 00:42:08,480
Speaker 1: Like Willie Gay is runs around like you know, his

769
00:42:08,600 --> 00:42:10,840
Speaker 1: hair is on fire, great combine guy, and right, I

770
00:42:10,880 --> 00:42:13,000
Speaker 1: don't know, they always knows what he's doing, No, And

771
00:42:13,080 --> 00:42:14,840
Speaker 1: I think that's shown up for the city too, Like,

772
00:42:14,840 --> 00:42:16,120
Speaker 1: I don't know if you play that may staffs to

773
00:42:16,120 --> 00:42:18,839
Speaker 1: begin with, but he does play, So I just wonder

774
00:42:18,840 --> 00:42:20,520
Speaker 1: if they might not be better off in this game.

775
00:42:20,560 --> 00:42:23,320
Speaker 1: But in one game where you can't afford a huge mistake,

776
00:42:24,760 --> 00:42:26,480
Speaker 1: this will lead to me the two conversations actually, and

777
00:42:26,520 --> 00:42:30,080
Speaker 1: it kind of reflects on Devin Bush as well, Like

778
00:42:30,600 --> 00:42:33,880
Speaker 1: if you're the box and Gay were to play, do

779
00:42:33,960 --> 00:42:35,520
Speaker 1: you want him on the field, because I think Brady

780
00:42:35,560 --> 00:42:37,960
Speaker 1: would manipulate him. You go after him like crazy and

781
00:42:38,000 --> 00:42:40,600
Speaker 1: then manipulate him like crazy with play action and that

782
00:42:40,719 --> 00:42:43,800
Speaker 1: type of stuff. And as good as Devin White is

783
00:42:43,840 --> 00:42:45,759
Speaker 1: and people probably watched him a laska weeks, like, oh,

784
00:42:45,840 --> 00:42:48,239
Speaker 1: I wish Bush was as good as White. White flies

785
00:42:48,280 --> 00:42:50,799
Speaker 1: around the field. He has star potential, makes a lot

786
00:42:50,800 --> 00:42:52,720
Speaker 1: of players behind the line of scrimmage, a lot of sacks,

787
00:42:53,200 --> 00:42:55,359
Speaker 1: and I'm sure the Chiefs are a little worried about him.

788
00:42:55,480 --> 00:42:57,680
Speaker 1: But I also bet Andy Reid's like, we can get

789
00:42:57,719 --> 00:43:01,000
Speaker 1: that out of bite absolutely and reads the reads the

790
00:43:01,120 --> 00:43:04,680
Speaker 1: King of Manipulation to this jet motion, and White takes

791
00:43:04,719 --> 00:43:07,279
Speaker 1: two steps following Tyreek, Well, they're gonna run right where

792
00:43:07,320 --> 00:43:09,440
Speaker 1: he was, You know what, I mean, pay attention to

793
00:43:09,560 --> 00:43:11,720
Speaker 1: him in coverage too, They'll pick on them. Their limited

794
00:43:11,719 --> 00:43:14,719
Speaker 1: guys were Levy on belt an ankle. Do you think

795
00:43:14,840 --> 00:43:19,000
Speaker 1: what's the chances he gets a carry? Because Edwards Hilary

796
00:43:19,120 --> 00:43:21,879
Speaker 1: is gonna play, Edwards Hilari is gonna play, and they've

797
00:43:21,920 --> 00:43:25,919
Speaker 1: gotten some some good snaps out of right, I don't.

798
00:43:25,920 --> 00:43:28,840
Speaker 1: I think Bell might be an afterthought. Rashad Fenton the

799
00:43:28,920 --> 00:43:32,160
Speaker 1: cornerback with the foot, Sammy Watkins with a calf um.

800
00:43:32,200 --> 00:43:34,960
Speaker 1: I expect those guys all be available. And then full

801
00:43:35,000 --> 00:43:38,800
Speaker 1: participants were Patrick Mahomes, Mike Ramer's with a groin, cornerback

802
00:43:38,920 --> 00:43:41,880
Speaker 1: Lagerias Snea with a concussion, and Andrew Wiley with an ankle.

803
00:43:42,080 --> 00:43:45,279
Speaker 1: I heard just on the way here to um their

804
00:43:45,360 --> 00:43:50,120
Speaker 1: COVID guy Robinson he's been Yeah, I'm not sure if

805
00:43:50,200 --> 00:43:52,840
Speaker 1: Kilgore's or not. He's a backup interior offensive line with

806
00:43:53,239 --> 00:43:57,560
Speaker 1: half a haircut. Well he had direct contact with the Yeah,

807
00:43:58,080 --> 00:44:00,799
Speaker 1: I bet he's not playing the there's a chance. I mean,

808
00:44:00,840 --> 00:44:02,839
Speaker 1: he could still get cleared. If he's five days without

809
00:44:02,880 --> 00:44:05,200
Speaker 1: testing positive, I guess that would count. But Robinson is

810
00:44:05,200 --> 00:44:09,319
Speaker 1: already cleared, so maybe he has tested positive. Yes, fair

811
00:44:09,440 --> 00:44:12,279
Speaker 1: enough hopefully not no more perk up, but that's not

812
00:44:12,360 --> 00:44:14,920
Speaker 1: too much for an injury list. No, not bad. And

813
00:44:15,040 --> 00:44:17,040
Speaker 1: again I mean I think the big one is Fisher.

814
00:44:17,880 --> 00:44:20,000
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I mean that that's without a doubt that

815
00:44:20,800 --> 00:44:24,960
Speaker 1: because the Chiefs will be starting an offensive line that

816
00:44:25,080 --> 00:44:28,759
Speaker 1: includes four guys who have been cut by somebody and

817
00:44:29,000 --> 00:44:32,200
Speaker 1: a seventh round draft pick from two thousand from last year. Yeah,

818
00:44:32,280 --> 00:44:34,439
Speaker 1: I mean they're not all even number two is there's

819
00:44:34,480 --> 00:44:37,320
Speaker 1: some third stringers on there. And we talked about this

820
00:44:37,400 --> 00:44:39,920
Speaker 1: a lot, like when two years ago they let Mitch

821
00:44:40,000 --> 00:44:42,080
Speaker 1: Morris go, who's been a good player, and didn't replace

822
00:44:42,200 --> 00:44:44,799
Speaker 1: him with a great center. Then Tardif the guard they

823
00:44:44,840 --> 00:44:47,759
Speaker 1: gave Big Bunny to good money too, he opts out

824
00:44:47,840 --> 00:44:50,000
Speaker 1: to go be a doctor in Canada, where he's from.

825
00:44:50,120 --> 00:44:52,759
Speaker 1: They sign a similar to replace him. He gets hurt,

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00:44:53,239 --> 00:44:55,560
Speaker 1: right and was playing he played well, yeah, and then

827
00:44:55,600 --> 00:44:57,279
Speaker 1: they get grab Whis off. The Steelers are be in

828
00:44:57,320 --> 00:44:59,640
Speaker 1: bad shape without him, like the interior of their own

829
00:44:59,719 --> 00:45:02,440
Speaker 1: line and has been a problem since training camp. And

830
00:45:02,480 --> 00:45:05,799
Speaker 1: they had too really strong tackles, not like a none

831
00:45:07,000 --> 00:45:09,560
Speaker 1: against a good front that just got Vita Vea back

832
00:45:09,719 --> 00:45:12,879
Speaker 1: and that Bucks fronts nasty that's the one that's that's

833
00:45:12,920 --> 00:45:15,439
Speaker 1: the chance that I give the Buccaneers to win this game.

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Speaker 1: The problem is is that Mahomes as good as anybody,

835
00:45:21,360 --> 00:45:23,719
Speaker 1: maybe the best in the league, and when pressured, I

836
00:45:23,800 --> 00:45:27,440
Speaker 1: think on paper, far and away, that's the biggest advantage

837
00:45:27,480 --> 00:45:29,960
Speaker 1: any team has in this game. You know, Pierre Paul,

838
00:45:30,160 --> 00:45:36,680
Speaker 1: Sue McClendon's on that team, vea bart against backups. But

839
00:45:36,800 --> 00:45:38,640
Speaker 1: I think it affects the Chiefs less than any team

840
00:45:38,680 --> 00:45:40,560
Speaker 1: in the league. I mean, even they had that problem

841
00:45:40,680 --> 00:45:42,759
Speaker 1: last week against Buffalo. They just go, they just go

842
00:45:42,880 --> 00:45:45,719
Speaker 1: shotgun and Okay, Mahomes, all right, you wanna pressure me,

843
00:45:45,719 --> 00:45:48,360
Speaker 1: I'm gonna roll here and throw. I could throw you

844
00:45:48,520 --> 00:45:50,080
Speaker 1: back across my body and hit that guy on the

845
00:45:50,120 --> 00:45:52,080
Speaker 1: other side of the field. Yeah. And his time to

846
00:45:52,160 --> 00:45:55,360
Speaker 1: throw last week was the shortest of any game this

847
00:45:55,480 --> 00:45:57,120
Speaker 1: year for them, you know. And I think you'll do

848
00:45:57,760 --> 00:45:59,600
Speaker 1: like two prop bets, I like in this game, or

849
00:45:59,719 --> 00:46:03,440
Speaker 1: Mahomes Himes over rushing and Edwards Hilaire over like two

850
00:46:03,480 --> 00:46:05,319
Speaker 1: and a half catches, because I think they'll screen them

851
00:46:05,360 --> 00:46:07,719
Speaker 1: to death to throw that down and he'll run a lot.

852
00:46:07,840 --> 00:46:09,879
Speaker 1: I mean, the two weeks off, I think his foot

853
00:46:09,920 --> 00:46:12,960
Speaker 1: will be fine, and generally, yeah, they put money in

854
00:46:12,960 --> 00:46:14,880
Speaker 1: their tackles, but they realize they don't have to have

855
00:46:14,920 --> 00:46:17,279
Speaker 1: a great offensive line for this thing to Ham and

856
00:46:17,320 --> 00:46:19,480
Speaker 1: Noy'll put a lot of five guys out in routes

857
00:46:19,680 --> 00:46:22,080
Speaker 1: no matter what you know. So I don't think it

858
00:46:22,239 --> 00:46:24,200
Speaker 1: bothers them as much as other teams. And they're five

859
00:46:24,239 --> 00:46:27,799
Speaker 1: guys are scary, usually better than your five guys. Yeah,

860
00:46:27,920 --> 00:46:29,600
Speaker 1: if my homes can give you an extra second, you

861
00:46:29,680 --> 00:46:32,279
Speaker 1: gotta guard Tyreek. That one was longer and he can

862
00:46:32,360 --> 00:46:35,200
Speaker 1: hit you no matter what. It's frightening it is. It's

863
00:46:35,239 --> 00:46:38,319
Speaker 1: gonna be a difficult proposition, but we're gonna take another break.

864
00:46:38,360 --> 00:46:40,759
Speaker 1: It's we'll get to the fantasy focus. We'll pick our

865
00:46:41,360 --> 00:46:44,160
Speaker 1: our draft kings lineup for the Super Bowl. So we'll

866
00:46:44,160 --> 00:46:46,399
Speaker 1: do that right after this. He is Matt Williamson. I'm

867
00:46:46,480 --> 00:46:48,880
Speaker 1: Dale Lally. You're listening to the Drive here on Steelers

868
00:46:48,960 --> 00:46:57,879
Speaker 1: Nation Radio. At least he's the Drive with Dale Lilly

869
00:46:58,000 --> 00:47:01,640
Speaker 1: and Matt Williamson. You're four seven home of the Black

870
00:47:01,719 --> 00:47:35,399
Speaker 1: and Gold Steelers Nation Radio. We are back. I'm Dale

871
00:47:35,480 --> 00:47:38,040
Speaker 1: Lowly here with Matt Williamson and that it's time to

872
00:47:38,120 --> 00:47:42,040
Speaker 1: do our fantasy segment here. Of course we're gonna do

873
00:47:42,880 --> 00:47:46,040
Speaker 1: um are are We're gonna pick our line up here

874
00:47:46,080 --> 00:47:48,560
Speaker 1: in DraftKings. And because it's just a single game, there

875
00:47:48,640 --> 00:47:51,000
Speaker 1: is no classic mode that we usually do this week,

876
00:47:51,680 --> 00:47:53,920
Speaker 1: so you have to do the captain mode, so you

877
00:47:53,960 --> 00:47:56,120
Speaker 1: can pick a player who's your captain and you get

878
00:47:56,960 --> 00:47:59,440
Speaker 1: believe it is one and a half times the points

879
00:47:59,520 --> 00:48:01,120
Speaker 1: for the cat for yeah, one and a half times

880
00:48:01,200 --> 00:48:04,400
Speaker 1: the fantasy points for whoever your team captain is. And

881
00:48:04,440 --> 00:48:06,640
Speaker 1: then you pick your best guy, yeah, And then you

882
00:48:06,760 --> 00:48:10,200
Speaker 1: pick and then you pick five flex players. You have

883
00:48:10,320 --> 00:48:13,879
Speaker 1: fifty thousand dollars to spend, so you can take two quarters.

884
00:48:13,920 --> 00:48:16,960
Speaker 1: You can take two you can take Mahomes and Brady,

885
00:48:17,000 --> 00:48:19,120
Speaker 1: but it would cost you thirty three thousand dollars. And

886
00:48:19,280 --> 00:48:22,600
Speaker 1: you have seven. You have seventeen thousand dollars with with

887
00:48:22,680 --> 00:48:24,160
Speaker 1: which to fill out the rest of your roster. How

888
00:48:24,200 --> 00:48:27,719
Speaker 1: many starters are we picking? Again? Six overall, so you

889
00:48:27,800 --> 00:48:30,239
Speaker 1: gotta you gotta. Basically, you have eight point three or

890
00:48:30,440 --> 00:48:34,400
Speaker 1: eight thousand, three and thirty three dollars per starter. Here's

891
00:48:34,440 --> 00:48:38,399
Speaker 1: my initial thoughts. Okay, there were some values. Well, let's

892
00:48:38,440 --> 00:48:41,759
Speaker 1: run down the list here. Um, the cost let let

893
00:48:41,800 --> 00:48:43,840
Speaker 1: me see if the price is the same. Okay, the

894
00:48:43,880 --> 00:48:46,600
Speaker 1: price changes if you're picking these guys as your for

895
00:48:46,680 --> 00:48:48,920
Speaker 1: your captain spot there the prices are a little bit different.

896
00:48:48,960 --> 00:48:51,600
Speaker 1: So Mahomes for the as your as your captain is

897
00:48:51,640 --> 00:48:55,839
Speaker 1: eighteen thousand, Mahomes in your regular lineup is twelve. Oh wow,

898
00:48:56,320 --> 00:48:59,800
Speaker 1: that's a big deal. Kelsey as your captain is sixteen

899
00:48:59,840 --> 00:49:04,959
Speaker 1: and half thousand. Kelsey just in your lineup is eleven thousand. Wow,

900
00:49:06,320 --> 00:49:08,279
Speaker 1: I would consider Kelsey as my captain. I think he's

901
00:49:08,520 --> 00:49:11,799
Speaker 1: Tyreek Hill as your captain is fifteen six. As you'r

902
00:49:11,960 --> 00:49:15,160
Speaker 1: is just a regular flex is ten four. So that's

903
00:49:15,160 --> 00:49:18,920
Speaker 1: almost like jump to make the captain. Brady is fifteen

904
00:49:19,000 --> 00:49:22,120
Speaker 1: thousand as your captain in ten thousand as your court

905
00:49:22,160 --> 00:49:26,040
Speaker 1: and just you're playing flex. So you're paying one and

906
00:49:26,080 --> 00:49:27,480
Speaker 1: a half more to get one and to happen. Do

907
00:49:27,560 --> 00:49:29,399
Speaker 1: we want to fill out the flex line up first

908
00:49:29,480 --> 00:49:31,080
Speaker 1: and then go with the captain or we want to

909
00:49:31,080 --> 00:49:32,600
Speaker 1: do the captain for I feel like we should pick

910
00:49:32,640 --> 00:49:35,680
Speaker 1: the captain. Okay, so our captain here here are thoughts. Okay,

911
00:49:36,080 --> 00:49:38,960
Speaker 1: Mahomes eighteen. So this has to be a high end

912
00:49:39,000 --> 00:49:41,640
Speaker 1: guy has to be somebody you think is gonna yeah, right,

913
00:49:42,480 --> 00:49:46,080
Speaker 1: Kelsey is fift sixteen five, Tyreek Hill fifteen six, Brady

914
00:49:46,200 --> 00:49:50,080
Speaker 1: is fifteen, god Win is thirteen to Mike Evans twelve six,

915
00:49:51,000 --> 00:49:54,160
Speaker 1: Leonard four and at eleven seven, Clyde Edwards, Hilayer ten five,

916
00:49:54,760 --> 00:49:59,040
Speaker 1: Antonio Brown nine three. Yeah, so it's got to be

917
00:49:59,120 --> 00:50:02,600
Speaker 1: basically one of those as guys, I'm sure everyone's gonna

918
00:50:02,600 --> 00:50:04,839
Speaker 1: do a quarterback. Everybody's probably gonna go with my homes.

919
00:50:04,880 --> 00:50:06,279
Speaker 1: I would think too, well a lot of them will

920
00:50:06,280 --> 00:50:08,560
Speaker 1: go with mahomes. And do you think I would like

921
00:50:08,640 --> 00:50:11,360
Speaker 1: to put Brady there and maybe I can get Brady

922
00:50:11,480 --> 00:50:13,200
Speaker 1: or no, I'm sorry, I'd like to put Kelsey there

923
00:50:14,280 --> 00:50:16,160
Speaker 1: and then maybe I can get my homes and Brady.

924
00:50:16,360 --> 00:50:18,960
Speaker 1: That's a where you go Tyreke there and you save

925
00:50:19,000 --> 00:50:21,640
Speaker 1: yourself nine thousand. I just like Kelsey's match up a

926
00:50:21,640 --> 00:50:25,640
Speaker 1: little better than Tyree. Tyrie tortured them. Yeah, I think

927
00:50:25,680 --> 00:50:28,640
Speaker 1: they're not going to let that happen again. And Kelsey

928
00:50:28,680 --> 00:50:31,719
Speaker 1: old Nickel and Diamond over and over more so than

929
00:50:31,760 --> 00:50:34,560
Speaker 1: the Quickhead. When what kind of have we can build it?

930
00:50:34,719 --> 00:50:37,040
Speaker 1: So let's let's okay, we'll put We'll put Kelsey Kelsey

931
00:50:37,120 --> 00:50:40,000
Speaker 1: is our is our is our captain? Captain? Now do

932
00:50:40,120 --> 00:50:42,880
Speaker 1: we want to take? That? Still leaves us with thirty

933
00:50:42,920 --> 00:50:46,160
Speaker 1: three five? But with Mahomes and Brady eating Mahomes and

934
00:50:46,239 --> 00:50:49,080
Speaker 1: Brady would make that, then that would leave us with

935
00:50:49,239 --> 00:50:54,319
Speaker 1: eleven five hundred for three spots. And then what are

936
00:50:54,320 --> 00:50:56,920
Speaker 1: you getting with that? Not much? Not much? Yeah, not much?

937
00:50:57,239 --> 00:51:02,440
Speaker 1: Because yeah, um so let's take a look. Their defenses

938
00:51:02,480 --> 00:51:06,360
Speaker 1: are kickers. Yes, you can pick defenses and kickers. The

939
00:51:06,560 --> 00:51:09,040
Speaker 1: kickers super cheap because they're kind of guaranteed points. Well, no,

940
00:51:09,160 --> 00:51:12,279
Speaker 1: you can't know. No kickers, I should say, just just defenses. No,

941
00:51:12,400 --> 00:51:15,160
Speaker 1: there are kickers. I'm sorry. Kickers are the buttker's four

942
00:51:15,239 --> 00:51:19,359
Speaker 1: thousand and suck up his thirty eight hundred. Mm hmm.

943
00:51:20,239 --> 00:51:23,040
Speaker 1: You're gonna get points out? What if it's what if

944
00:51:23,080 --> 00:51:25,520
Speaker 1: it's four extra points or if you know something like that.

945
00:51:25,680 --> 00:51:26,960
Speaker 1: I mean, I think this game is going to be

946
00:51:27,000 --> 00:51:30,680
Speaker 1: in the thirties for both teams. So if you take Mahomes,

947
00:51:31,280 --> 00:51:34,920
Speaker 1: took my Homes, Brady and both kickers, do we have

948
00:51:35,000 --> 00:51:38,719
Speaker 1: spot for something decent? That leaves us eleven five. But

949
00:51:38,840 --> 00:51:41,920
Speaker 1: even to that, if you take both kickers, you still

950
00:51:42,000 --> 00:51:47,040
Speaker 1: have that leads you with and that means like, okay,

951
00:51:47,880 --> 00:51:50,160
Speaker 1: then you're talking to defense or you know something like that,

952
00:51:51,360 --> 00:51:54,759
Speaker 1: or Ronald Jones, I think we gotta pull Brady out

953
00:51:54,760 --> 00:51:56,600
Speaker 1: the line up. Okay, So Brady's out, So we've got

954
00:51:56,680 --> 00:51:59,080
Speaker 1: my homes. We get Kelsey is our is our captain.

955
00:51:59,800 --> 00:52:08,560
Speaker 1: Uh umkus tyrekus ten four god Win is, Mike Evans

956
00:52:08,640 --> 00:52:13,239
Speaker 1: is four net is seventy hundred. I don't mind that. Yeah,

957
00:52:13,840 --> 00:52:15,600
Speaker 1: let's go ahead and plug that in for I'm not

958
00:52:15,600 --> 00:52:17,279
Speaker 1: the biggest four net guy, but I think the Chiefs

959
00:52:17,280 --> 00:52:19,239
Speaker 1: are gonna dare them to run, and we will and

960
00:52:19,320 --> 00:52:25,480
Speaker 1: you'll catch a couple of balls. Um McCole, Hardman is hundred.

961
00:52:26,560 --> 00:52:31,080
Speaker 1: Uh Williams Darrell Williams is hundred. See I like Edwards

962
00:52:31,160 --> 00:52:34,759
Speaker 1: Hilaire this week. I'm the biggest Edward Edwards Hilaire fan.

963
00:52:34,840 --> 00:52:37,920
Speaker 1: But I just keep thinking screens to shut down the path.

964
00:52:38,200 --> 00:52:40,600
Speaker 1: He's seven thousand, he's that much. I thought he was

965
00:52:40,640 --> 00:52:42,440
Speaker 1: going to be cheaper than that. So if we go

966
00:52:42,640 --> 00:52:45,120
Speaker 1: seven thousand there, that leads us with sixty stid leasas

967
00:52:45,160 --> 00:52:49,960
Speaker 1: with sixty for one spot for two spots. Now you

968
00:52:50,040 --> 00:52:52,400
Speaker 1: can go this is hard. Yeah, Now you could go

969
00:52:52,520 --> 00:52:54,520
Speaker 1: both defenses there you might be able to get it.

970
00:52:54,560 --> 00:52:57,600
Speaker 1: You can go a defense and a kicker. I don't

971
00:52:57,600 --> 00:52:59,920
Speaker 1: think the defense are gonna do well. Or I mean

972
00:53:00,040 --> 00:53:02,640
Speaker 1: you can get our defenses and kickers. You can get

973
00:53:02,760 --> 00:53:05,840
Speaker 1: Ronald Jones. I mean that's kind of a bargain. That

974
00:53:06,000 --> 00:53:08,160
Speaker 1: is kind of a bargain. He should be healthy, he'll

975
00:53:08,160 --> 00:53:13,239
Speaker 1: get he'll play, he'll play. Yeah, what if Net gets hurt? Right, Yeah,

976
00:53:13,560 --> 00:53:16,560
Speaker 1: I don't mind Jones as our cheap guy that leaves,

977
00:53:17,680 --> 00:53:22,160
Speaker 1: which means we could have Well, the best player that

978
00:53:22,160 --> 00:53:26,000
Speaker 1: could get us would be Sammy Watkins or but either

979
00:53:26,040 --> 00:53:32,640
Speaker 1: of the kickers Scotty Miller, Gronk's three thousand. Yeah, I

980
00:53:32,760 --> 00:53:38,040
Speaker 1: like the Jones pick. I mean we need Mahomes and

981
00:53:38,120 --> 00:53:39,920
Speaker 1: Kelsey to blow up. What if let me tell me

982
00:53:39,960 --> 00:53:44,480
Speaker 1: see here, so if we go if we dump for

983
00:53:44,760 --> 00:53:51,400
Speaker 1: Net and go with Brady's ten, that will leave us.

984
00:53:54,520 --> 00:53:57,120
Speaker 1: The best player that would get us will be Byron Pringle,

985
00:53:58,200 --> 00:54:03,640
Speaker 1: uh Tyler Johnson, Jared Watson, Levion or Justin Watson, Levian Bell. Yeah,

986
00:54:03,680 --> 00:54:06,120
Speaker 1: that doesn't work. Those guys might not even play. Yeah,

987
00:54:06,360 --> 00:54:08,200
Speaker 1: I mean they could all have goose egg. Okay, So

988
00:54:08,320 --> 00:54:12,319
Speaker 1: what about if we get uh, you could go god

989
00:54:12,360 --> 00:54:18,120
Speaker 1: winner Evans. I prefer Evans Evans a score touchdown, So

990
00:54:18,200 --> 00:54:20,520
Speaker 1: let's put Evans in at least it's a thirty nine hundred,

991
00:54:20,800 --> 00:54:22,520
Speaker 1: and then we can get Ryan suck up for thirty

992
00:54:22,560 --> 00:54:25,520
Speaker 1: eight hundred that he's going to do something for us

993
00:54:26,120 --> 00:54:28,040
Speaker 1: all better than Pringle or so that would give us

994
00:54:28,120 --> 00:54:31,320
Speaker 1: in a lineup of Kelsey as our as our captain, Mahomes,

995
00:54:31,560 --> 00:54:36,200
Speaker 1: Mike Evans, Clyde Edwards, Hilaire, Ronald Jones and suck up.

996
00:54:36,640 --> 00:54:38,759
Speaker 1: That's pretty good with a hundred dollars left over, that's

997
00:54:38,760 --> 00:54:41,319
Speaker 1: pretty good. Do you like it? Yeah? It suck up

998
00:54:41,440 --> 00:54:47,920
Speaker 1: versus Bucker about the same. Or Butker is four thousand

999
00:54:48,000 --> 00:54:51,000
Speaker 1: and suck up at hundreds. We we would need another

1000
00:54:51,120 --> 00:54:54,600
Speaker 1: hundred somewhere. That doesn't matter to um. We could do that.

1001
00:54:54,760 --> 00:54:56,919
Speaker 1: Let me let me just look here. If we went

1002
00:54:57,320 --> 00:55:00,320
Speaker 1: instead of taking Evans, if we took four Net, we

1003
00:55:00,400 --> 00:55:02,960
Speaker 1: could make that move that we had more money left over.

1004
00:55:03,880 --> 00:55:07,600
Speaker 1: I think I prefer Evans. Okay, so convinced of either,

1005
00:55:07,640 --> 00:55:10,439
Speaker 1: but I don't love having for Net and Jones. Yeah

1006
00:55:11,680 --> 00:55:14,640
Speaker 1: you like Jones. One of the two could blow up.

1007
00:55:14,719 --> 00:55:17,760
Speaker 1: Both of them could be okay, I think we're obviously

1008
00:55:17,760 --> 00:55:21,359
Speaker 1: be the bell cow, but Jones is super cheap for us. Yeah,

1009
00:55:21,400 --> 00:55:25,480
Speaker 1: I mean right, yeah, I bet he gets five D

1010
00:55:25,520 --> 00:55:31,319
Speaker 1: eight carries. Um just looking here, you could get uh.

1011
00:55:32,040 --> 00:55:34,040
Speaker 1: I don't like any of that now, I mean that's

1012
00:55:34,080 --> 00:55:36,440
Speaker 1: the way to go. I think you're right unless you

1013
00:55:36,480 --> 00:55:40,480
Speaker 1: went with unless you went with Brady at quarterback and

1014
00:55:40,560 --> 00:55:43,360
Speaker 1: you could upgrade elsewhere. That means we're playing against my

1015
00:55:43,440 --> 00:55:45,600
Speaker 1: Homes in a lot of situations. It's true. That does

1016
00:55:45,640 --> 00:55:49,880
Speaker 1: not make me real happy. There's Kelsey definitely our m

1017
00:55:49,960 --> 00:55:53,640
Speaker 1: v P or captain. Although I don't know how you

1018
00:55:53,680 --> 00:55:55,120
Speaker 1: build a line up if you have my Homes as

1019
00:55:55,160 --> 00:55:58,600
Speaker 1: your captain. It's really tough. Yeah, I mean, well they

1020
00:55:58,680 --> 00:56:01,200
Speaker 1: do that on purpose to make it difficult for people

1021
00:56:01,239 --> 00:56:03,560
Speaker 1: to do that. I'm sure you could, but you're gonna

1022
00:56:03,560 --> 00:56:06,160
Speaker 1: have a lot of a lot of two thousand. I

1023
00:56:06,200 --> 00:56:07,759
Speaker 1: mean it's okay if you get right, you know, right,

1024
00:56:07,760 --> 00:56:09,239
Speaker 1: if you're good with Ronald Jones some of the other

1025
00:56:09,280 --> 00:56:14,480
Speaker 1: guys down to that level something like that, Mahomes better

1026
00:56:14,560 --> 00:56:18,040
Speaker 1: just be. He has to be the four thousand yards

1027
00:56:18,120 --> 00:56:20,720
Speaker 1: for you to win, because everybody's gonna have him to alright,

1028
00:56:20,760 --> 00:56:23,279
Speaker 1: everybody's having some sort of lineup, you gotta get fifty

1029
00:56:23,760 --> 00:56:26,560
Speaker 1: more than the guys that just have them like we do. Yeah,

1030
00:56:26,560 --> 00:56:29,000
Speaker 1: I can't do that. I think Kelsey blows up and

1031
00:56:29,040 --> 00:56:32,480
Speaker 1: I'm cool putting my money into him. Um. I like

1032
00:56:32,600 --> 00:56:34,759
Speaker 1: the line up you built there though. Yeah, once again

1033
00:56:34,800 --> 00:56:38,560
Speaker 1: it's Kelsey. It's six five is our captain. Patrick Mahomes

1034
00:56:38,680 --> 00:56:41,480
Speaker 1: at twelve thousand is one of our flexes. Also then

1035
00:56:41,560 --> 00:56:44,880
Speaker 1: Mike Evans a hundred, Clyde Edwards, Hilary at seven thousand,

1036
00:56:45,400 --> 00:56:50,320
Speaker 1: Ronald Jones, and Ryan suck Up. I would still prefer Butker,

1037
00:56:51,680 --> 00:56:55,520
Speaker 1: but they're all gonna play, you know, like I don't

1038
00:56:55,520 --> 00:56:57,720
Speaker 1: think the Chiefs are gonna get blown out and avoid

1039
00:56:57,960 --> 00:57:01,040
Speaker 1: field goals. The Bucks might that could happen. You could

1040
00:57:01,040 --> 00:57:03,080
Speaker 1: where they're going for it on fourth and six instead

1041
00:57:03,080 --> 00:57:05,360
Speaker 1: of kickingn't needs to be a goal that could happen.

1042
00:57:05,760 --> 00:57:09,680
Speaker 1: You could also look at the Buccaneers defenses. The Chiefs

1043
00:57:09,719 --> 00:57:14,840
Speaker 1: defense is m I don't expect many turnovers. The problem

1044
00:57:14,920 --> 00:57:18,240
Speaker 1: with that is if you expect a high scoring game,

1045
00:57:18,560 --> 00:57:20,320
Speaker 1: you could end up with negative points. Now, I think

1046
00:57:20,360 --> 00:57:22,160
Speaker 1: there's a good chance. Both those are negatives. I do

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00:57:22,320 --> 00:57:25,120
Speaker 1: think that I do think that the Chiefs defense will

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00:57:25,160 --> 00:57:27,600
Speaker 1: get some sacks on Brady, and I think he may

1049
00:57:27,680 --> 00:57:31,480
Speaker 1: throw a pick or two. He doesn't do that much,

1050
00:57:31,680 --> 00:57:35,160
Speaker 1: but he threw three in the in the championship game

1051
00:57:35,240 --> 00:57:36,960
Speaker 1: that he just threw them up for grabs. Here's a

1052
00:57:36,960 --> 00:57:39,720
Speaker 1: couple of questions for defenses. Which defense you think has

1053
00:57:39,720 --> 00:57:44,080
Speaker 1: a better chance to score? I'd say Kansas City Kansas City? Yeah,

1054
00:57:45,240 --> 00:57:47,240
Speaker 1: which chance? Which defense do you think will have more

1055
00:57:47,360 --> 00:57:53,000
Speaker 1: sacks in Kansas City? I think there'll be more pressure

1056
00:57:53,040 --> 00:57:55,000
Speaker 1: from Tampa Bay. That doesn't mean to get on the ground.

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00:57:55,000 --> 00:57:57,240
Speaker 1: It doesn't mean yeah he's he's so slippery and he

1058
00:57:57,320 --> 00:57:59,120
Speaker 1: could you know. That's why I like the Mahomes over

1059
00:57:59,200 --> 00:58:02,880
Speaker 1: rushing because uh, he could be in trouble and Brady

1060
00:58:03,080 --> 00:58:07,120
Speaker 1: Brady is a stationary target behind behind an okay offensive line.

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00:58:07,160 --> 00:58:09,480
Speaker 1: But Kansas City's got some pass rush. They're going to

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00:58:09,520 --> 00:58:12,440
Speaker 1: blitz some like crazy too, right, They blitz a lot,

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00:58:12,520 --> 00:58:16,160
Speaker 1: The blitz a lot. I would so if we're buying

1064
00:58:16,200 --> 00:58:17,960
Speaker 1: a defense, it would be Kansas City from I think so,

1065
00:58:18,080 --> 00:58:22,320
Speaker 1: And they're the cheaper defense by two doll that. Who

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00:58:22,360 --> 00:58:24,200
Speaker 1: would we pulled out of the lineup for that? Nobody

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00:58:24,240 --> 00:58:27,160
Speaker 1: that I'm I'm not over, not over a position player.

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00:58:27,200 --> 00:58:29,400
Speaker 1: I mean the question would be suck up or defense.

1069
00:58:30,680 --> 00:58:31,800
Speaker 1: I think I want to suck up, And I think

1070
00:58:31,800 --> 00:58:33,960
Speaker 1: you want to suck up because he's not gonna lose points.

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00:58:34,040 --> 00:58:36,439
Speaker 1: There's no chance, there's no chance of they score thirty

1072
00:58:36,480 --> 00:58:38,360
Speaker 1: eight points and you take a you know, a zero

1073
00:58:38,480 --> 00:58:39,960
Speaker 1: there or something like it. He gets a ten or

1074
00:58:40,000 --> 00:58:42,840
Speaker 1: twelve right right now, I think you take the kicker. Yeah,

1075
00:58:42,960 --> 00:58:45,360
Speaker 1: all right, I'm gonna hit enter on this. We'll see

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00:58:45,400 --> 00:58:47,000
Speaker 1: how we do well. We'll be back on Monday to

1077
00:58:47,080 --> 00:58:49,520
Speaker 1: talk about we might be millionaires, but we might not

1078
00:58:49,600 --> 00:58:52,640
Speaker 1: be back on Monday because we're that's true. Um. Yeah,

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00:58:52,720 --> 00:58:55,160
Speaker 1: so there we go. That's a nice lineup. I like that.

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00:58:55,480 --> 00:58:57,400
Speaker 1: You'll see how many other people have something like that.

1081
00:58:57,720 --> 00:58:59,360
Speaker 1: A little balance too. It's not like we went all

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00:58:59,400 --> 00:59:01,360
Speaker 1: in on one team, you know. Actually, yeah, we get

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00:59:01,360 --> 00:59:03,680
Speaker 1: a little bit from both teams, so not too bad. Uh.

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Speaker 1: He is Matt Williamson. I'm Dale Lally. You're listening to

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Speaker 1: the drive here on Steelers Nation Radio. We're gonna take

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Speaker 1: another break. We'll be back right after this. Your tunes

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Speaker 1: about drive on Home of the Black and Goal Steelers

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Speaker 1: Nation Radio. We are back on Dale Lally here with

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00:59:46,720 --> 00:59:49,560
Speaker 1: Matt Williamson and Matt throughout the season. Over the course

1090
00:59:49,640 --> 00:59:53,160
Speaker 1: of the season, on sometime during the week leading up

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00:59:53,160 --> 00:59:55,440
Speaker 1: to a Steeler game, we would take the Steelers roster

1092
00:59:55,680 --> 00:59:58,800
Speaker 1: and then compare it to the teams that they were

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00:59:58,800 --> 01:00:02,160
Speaker 1: gonna play. U. Let's do a little vary position, a

1094
01:00:02,200 --> 01:00:05,200
Speaker 1: little variation of that with the Steelers versus the Bucks

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01:00:05,320 --> 01:00:08,520
Speaker 1: and Chiefs. One question for you. When we look at

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01:00:08,600 --> 01:00:12,680
Speaker 1: the Steelers roster, the current roster, it was because we're

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01:00:12,720 --> 01:00:15,800
Speaker 1: still in season. I think we count Devin Bush. I

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01:00:15,880 --> 01:00:19,919
Speaker 1: think we cut the count the pre sure we don't

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Speaker 1: mind his free agents. Okay, all right, there we go,

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Speaker 1: if they're on the roster that I'm looking at. Here,

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01:00:25,880 --> 01:00:29,720
Speaker 1: I got got I got the ESPN rosters updated depth

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Speaker 1: charts up for each one of these teams. So we'll

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Speaker 1: ranking one to three. Okay, So we'll start at quarterback

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Speaker 1: and that's the that's the easiest one. Is Kansas City, Tampa, Pittsburgh. Yes,

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01:00:43,320 --> 01:00:46,120
Speaker 1: and Tampa would have higher than just about all teams,

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01:00:46,200 --> 01:00:48,440
Speaker 1: but four or five. See, I don't know if I

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01:00:48,480 --> 01:00:51,680
Speaker 1: would be that high on Brady's been fine this year.

1108
01:00:51,920 --> 01:00:53,520
Speaker 1: He hasn't been as good as people think of the playoffs.

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01:00:53,560 --> 01:00:55,120
Speaker 1: By the way, No, he's not. Like I said, he

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01:00:55,160 --> 01:00:58,160
Speaker 1: had three interceptions last week. Um, like, would you put

1111
01:00:58,240 --> 01:01:02,720
Speaker 1: Tampa over Baltimore right this minute? Like I wouldn't over

1112
01:01:02,760 --> 01:01:07,080
Speaker 1: Buffalo or Green Bay. See. I think if we were

1113
01:01:07,200 --> 01:01:10,520
Speaker 1: ranking the quarterback the quarterback position around the league, I

1114
01:01:10,560 --> 01:01:14,560
Speaker 1: think I think Brady's more like twelve, somewhere in that range.

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01:01:16,600 --> 01:01:22,240
Speaker 1: He's above he's above average, but he's not top five five, Okay,

1116
01:01:22,440 --> 01:01:24,439
Speaker 1: but we agree on the one to three there, yeah,

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01:01:24,480 --> 01:01:28,600
Speaker 1: oh yeah, yeah. The running back position, I'm touring on

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01:01:28,720 --> 01:01:34,000
Speaker 1: one versus two. I thought, because of what they've done

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01:01:34,040 --> 01:01:37,680
Speaker 1: in the playoffs, I think I would take Tampa because

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Speaker 1: you've got a one two punch there for net and Jones,

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01:01:40,920 --> 01:01:42,880
Speaker 1: and I don't know that Kansas City has that one

1122
01:01:42,960 --> 01:01:48,080
Speaker 1: two punch. Yeah. Williams has been fine in the Edwards hilariers. Okay,

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01:01:48,320 --> 01:01:53,040
Speaker 1: he's okay, He's comparable to Ronald Jones. I think his

1124
01:01:53,120 --> 01:01:55,440
Speaker 1: ceiling is higher than all the ones. I don't care

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Speaker 1: what the ceiling is. What is he right now? And

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01:01:58,040 --> 01:02:00,280
Speaker 1: I think he's I think he's comparable to Ronald Owns

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01:02:01,320 --> 01:02:04,880
Speaker 1: Tampa case Pittsburgh. Yeah, I think that's that's pretty easy

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01:02:05,880 --> 01:02:11,200
Speaker 1: wide receivers where it gets really, Harry Man, Steelers might

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01:02:11,240 --> 01:02:14,520
Speaker 1: be third, and I like the receivers a lot. Ty

1130
01:02:14,600 --> 01:02:18,600
Speaker 1: Reek is the best. Tyreek is the best, But Kansas

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01:02:18,600 --> 01:02:21,480
Speaker 1: City's depth is I'm sorry, Tampa's depth is when a

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Speaker 1: B is your third. Yeah, I'm going Tampa one. Yeah,

1133
01:02:25,160 --> 01:02:27,560
Speaker 1: and even like Tyler Johnson and guys like that are

1134
01:02:27,640 --> 01:02:30,480
Speaker 1: really good. Yeah, and you can do something. Um just

1135
01:02:30,680 --> 01:02:32,920
Speaker 1: you know, Scotty Miller. I don't have a lot of

1136
01:02:32,960 --> 01:02:36,480
Speaker 1: respect for Sammy. The first Chiefs isn't a layup to me,

1137
01:02:36,920 --> 01:02:39,680
Speaker 1: It's not. I mean, ty Reeks number one, but then

1138
01:02:39,720 --> 01:02:42,200
Speaker 1: the next three might be Steelers, right, I mean, like

1139
01:02:42,280 --> 01:02:46,200
Speaker 1: the Chief's offense with Johnson, Juju, Washington and Claypool will

1140
01:02:46,200 --> 01:02:48,160
Speaker 1: be pretty good, still be pretty good. Yeah, not much

1141
01:02:48,200 --> 01:02:53,040
Speaker 1: different really, I think I'll go Chiefs, but narrowly. Hardman

1142
01:02:53,120 --> 01:02:57,920
Speaker 1: is a good player, Watkins isn't a bad player. But

1143
01:02:59,000 --> 01:03:00,600
Speaker 1: if we did top four or three of them might

1144
01:03:00,640 --> 01:03:03,080
Speaker 1: be Steelers. That's what I'm saying. That's what I'm yeah,

1145
01:03:03,320 --> 01:03:06,240
Speaker 1: is Tyreek that much better than everybody? And he's good,

1146
01:03:06,320 --> 01:03:09,560
Speaker 1: he's great players. I'm gonna switch that. I'm gonna Steers

1147
01:03:09,600 --> 01:03:12,480
Speaker 1: because just yeah, and now we're not including obviously not

1148
01:03:12,560 --> 01:03:15,360
Speaker 1: including the tight Ends in that because then because that

1149
01:03:15,560 --> 01:03:17,480
Speaker 1: that would you know, if you're if you're including all

1150
01:03:17,520 --> 01:03:20,280
Speaker 1: the past catchers, then I think Kansas City is number

1151
01:03:20,320 --> 01:03:23,720
Speaker 1: one one. Yeah, we'll do tight ends next. Yeah, okay,

1152
01:03:23,840 --> 01:03:27,040
Speaker 1: I mean receivers. I'm going T Bay Case or T Bay, Pittsburgh,

1153
01:03:27,080 --> 01:03:29,400
Speaker 1: k C. I think I agree with that. Yeah, they're

1154
01:03:29,440 --> 01:03:31,240
Speaker 1: pretty good. They're all pretty Yeah. I mean those are

1155
01:03:31,280 --> 01:03:33,280
Speaker 1: three of the best receiver rooms in the league. Do

1156
01:03:33,320 --> 01:03:36,000
Speaker 1: you want good receivers in today's NFL? Yeah, tight ends

1157
01:03:36,080 --> 01:03:40,200
Speaker 1: is pretty obvious. Yeah, this in this case, Kelsey's number

1158
01:03:40,240 --> 01:03:45,320
Speaker 1: one would break be number two? Is it? Gronk? I

1159
01:03:45,360 --> 01:03:51,120
Speaker 1: think he's great, maybe hebron but they're all a distance. Yeah,

1160
01:03:51,160 --> 01:03:52,840
Speaker 1: I mean it's but it's not close. It's not like

1161
01:03:53,120 --> 01:03:55,120
Speaker 1: it's not like the the the argument between you know,

1162
01:03:55,200 --> 01:03:58,360
Speaker 1: Tyrek and Mike Evans or something like that. No, this

1163
01:03:58,560 --> 01:04:01,800
Speaker 1: is yeah, that's a slam is a third, Yeah, because

1164
01:04:01,840 --> 01:04:03,800
Speaker 1: they have at least two guys in the conversation for

1165
01:04:03,920 --> 01:04:07,240
Speaker 1: number two, where the Steelers on like one and they

1166
01:04:07,320 --> 01:04:11,480
Speaker 1: still advance. But yeah, I know, but he's fifth, um,

1167
01:04:11,800 --> 01:04:15,560
Speaker 1: so that's easy right, we go, k C T Baby Pittsburgh. Yeah, okay,

1168
01:04:16,920 --> 01:04:20,160
Speaker 1: offensive line, this is a tough one. I think if

1169
01:04:20,200 --> 01:04:22,840
Speaker 1: we're gonna count bud in Bush, do we have to

1170
01:04:22,920 --> 01:04:26,760
Speaker 1: count their tackles being healthy? Were we talking about both

1171
01:04:26,800 --> 01:04:28,080
Speaker 1: sides our mouth? You know what I mean? I think

1172
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Speaker 1: I find who they're gonna play with. I mean, who

1173
01:04:31,840 --> 01:04:34,560
Speaker 1: they're gonna play with his last, his dead last last.

1174
01:04:34,920 --> 01:04:38,280
Speaker 1: I think even if you even even if Fisher and

1175
01:04:39,920 --> 01:04:45,320
Speaker 1: Swords play, they might be last. Tea Bay is easily one. Yeah,

1176
01:04:46,480 --> 01:04:51,880
Speaker 1: Steelers versus best Chiefs line is about like people. There's

1177
01:04:51,920 --> 01:04:54,120
Speaker 1: a misnomer right there, well that the Chiefs run the

1178
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Speaker 1: ball better than the Steelers, so their line must be better. No,

1179
01:04:57,280 --> 01:05:01,000
Speaker 1: the Chiefs run the ball better because everybody's nobody's putting

1180
01:05:01,040 --> 01:05:03,520
Speaker 1: eight guys in the box against the Chiefs. Go back

1181
01:05:03,520 --> 01:05:06,160
Speaker 1: to the conversation we had, he got six guys in

1182
01:05:06,200 --> 01:05:09,280
Speaker 1: the box against the Chiefs. It's a total opposite. No

1183
01:05:09,360 --> 01:05:11,640
Speaker 1: one's afraid of the stealer of deep passing game. Everyone's

1184
01:05:11,800 --> 01:05:14,720
Speaker 1: terrified the Chief's deep passing game. I'm still gonna put

1185
01:05:14,720 --> 01:05:17,400
Speaker 1: the k C line healthy. I would rank him like this,

1186
01:05:17,600 --> 01:05:24,640
Speaker 1: T Bay healthy, KC Line Steeler line. Current current k

1187
01:05:24,760 --> 01:05:28,680
Speaker 1: C line might be might the league. There's some really

1188
01:05:28,720 --> 01:05:34,680
Speaker 1: bad ones out that yeah, um D line, D line,

1189
01:05:35,080 --> 01:05:38,760
Speaker 1: Okay for just just give everybody. Uh, we're gonna count

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01:05:38,760 --> 01:05:44,080
Speaker 1: Wotton dupri For Tampa Bay, it's Sue Veya, William Galston,

1191
01:05:47,360 --> 01:05:50,960
Speaker 1: Pierre Paul, Pierre Paul is also, I mean Barrett and

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01:05:51,000 --> 01:05:53,480
Speaker 1: McLennan is on that group. It's a good line. Yeah

1193
01:05:54,280 --> 01:05:59,640
Speaker 1: for k C. You're looking at uh capassing on whatever. Yeah,

1194
01:05:59,720 --> 01:06:05,240
Speaker 1: he's I think that's right. Chris Jones, Derek Nandi, Frank Clark, um, Yeah,

1195
01:06:05,240 --> 01:06:09,120
Speaker 1: they're their linebackers. Really don't know not they go with

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01:06:09,200 --> 01:06:10,920
Speaker 1: the front four. Yeah, and say it was t Bay

1197
01:06:10,960 --> 01:06:12,439
Speaker 1: for the most part, and then you got Alex Oka

1198
01:06:12,520 --> 01:06:14,360
Speaker 1: for coming off the bench and some guys like at

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Speaker 1: Kaalen Saunders. Um, Chris Jones might be the best of

1200
01:06:18,200 --> 01:06:20,800
Speaker 1: all of these guys, but I think Casey's third. For me,

1201
01:06:20,920 --> 01:06:23,360
Speaker 1: I wouldn't say that what's better than Chris Jones in

1202
01:06:23,480 --> 01:06:27,080
Speaker 1: his position if we're going to conclude, Yeah, they're both

1203
01:06:27,240 --> 01:06:29,520
Speaker 1: near the top at their positions, right, Yes, i'd go

1204
01:06:29,640 --> 01:06:34,640
Speaker 1: Steelers box Chiefs. Yeah. Yeah. And Clark to me, he's

1205
01:06:34,680 --> 01:06:38,320
Speaker 1: not great anymore. No, he's even a little disappointed. Yeah.

1206
01:06:38,520 --> 01:06:42,440
Speaker 1: So um. Moving on to the off the ball linebackers,

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01:06:42,920 --> 01:06:45,320
Speaker 1: Te Bay is awesome. Tampa Bay is really, I mean

1208
01:06:45,920 --> 01:06:48,800
Speaker 1: really good, really counting Bush, right, so I think Steelers

1209
01:06:48,840 --> 01:06:52,400
Speaker 1: are too, Yes, Tampa Bay might be the best in

1210
01:06:52,440 --> 01:06:57,600
Speaker 1: the league's thinking to David's a great player. Yeah, people

1211
01:06:57,640 --> 01:07:01,280
Speaker 1: will focus on Devin White, Lavonte. David's the better a player. Yeah.

1212
01:07:01,320 --> 01:07:04,560
Speaker 1: White's a splash guy and his highlight film will make

1213
01:07:04,640 --> 01:07:07,040
Speaker 1: you you know your jaw drop. But he'll get picked onto.

1214
01:07:07,040 --> 01:07:08,919
Speaker 1: I mean, they got DL and Buchanan coming off the bench,

1215
01:07:09,040 --> 01:07:12,040
Speaker 1: and he's not a bad player. Right. The Steelers would

1216
01:07:12,040 --> 01:07:14,160
Speaker 1: have killed for Dion Buchanan this year. Yeah, you're right.

1217
01:07:14,680 --> 01:07:16,560
Speaker 1: This is an easy list for me. Yeah, I mean

1218
01:07:16,600 --> 01:07:21,840
Speaker 1: you look at that Darius Harris, Anthony Hitchins, and Damian Wilson. Right,

1219
01:07:23,920 --> 01:07:26,320
Speaker 1: the Steels wouldn't have killed for those guys right now.

1220
01:07:26,400 --> 01:07:28,920
Speaker 1: That's what they played with basically, and Bush to me

1221
01:07:29,000 --> 01:07:32,800
Speaker 1: puts the Steelers easily. It too. The cornerback position for

1222
01:07:33,280 --> 01:07:39,160
Speaker 1: Kansas City is Antonio Hamilton's. It's the various ward and

1223
01:07:39,240 --> 01:07:46,400
Speaker 1: then uh the slot corners. Uh um, the rookie he's

1224
01:07:46,440 --> 01:07:50,520
Speaker 1: a good player. Isn't in the mixers. He's kind of

1225
01:07:50,600 --> 01:07:53,280
Speaker 1: the the third fourth corner that they put out there.

1226
01:07:53,560 --> 01:07:55,760
Speaker 1: It's not a bad crew, but I think that has

1227
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Speaker 1: to be third. I think so Tampa Carlton Davis, Sean Bunty,

1228
01:08:02,200 --> 01:08:06,240
Speaker 1: Sean Murphy, Bunting, Jamal Dean. Those aren't household names, but

1229
01:08:06,400 --> 01:08:09,080
Speaker 1: every team would love to have those three on their

1230
01:08:09,120 --> 01:08:13,520
Speaker 1: first contract. Ascending players. Davis will run with, will run

1231
01:08:13,640 --> 01:08:18,160
Speaker 1: with shadow at times. He shadowed Hill early and didn't work.

1232
01:08:18,200 --> 01:08:21,320
Speaker 1: Didn't work, but he's he's definitely That shows you what

1233
01:08:21,439 --> 01:08:24,479
Speaker 1: kind of confidence they had. He got picked on a

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01:08:24,520 --> 01:08:27,840
Speaker 1: little bit though in in that role working against number one.

1235
01:08:28,280 --> 01:08:31,640
Speaker 1: I think I'll take Hayden and Nelson with Hilton and

1236
01:08:31,800 --> 01:08:34,559
Speaker 1: Sutton sprinkled in over those three. I think so, because

1237
01:08:34,600 --> 01:08:37,600
Speaker 1: they're Number four is Ross Cockrell. Yeah, right, like and

1238
01:08:37,720 --> 01:08:40,439
Speaker 1: he plays and he plays and he doesn't embarrass himself,

1239
01:08:40,520 --> 01:08:42,519
Speaker 1: but you know, yeah, we know what he is. Yeah,

1240
01:08:42,560 --> 01:08:47,360
Speaker 1: I mean the Steelers, Bucks Chiefs. I think that's that

1241
01:08:47,479 --> 01:08:51,120
Speaker 1: sounds right. Yeah, Safeties are all good. Safety position is

1242
01:08:51,200 --> 01:08:53,880
Speaker 1: really tough because with Kansas City, you're looking at mauth

1243
01:08:53,960 --> 01:08:57,519
Speaker 1: Allan Daniel Sorenson with one Thornhill in the right. They

1244
01:08:57,560 --> 01:09:00,320
Speaker 1: play three a lot. Yeah. With Tampa you're looking at

1245
01:09:00,360 --> 01:09:04,519
Speaker 1: Windfield and Jordan's Whitehead. Everyone loved that Winfield. Yeah, and

1246
01:09:04,600 --> 01:09:06,880
Speaker 1: white Head is not bad, No, not at all. And

1247
01:09:06,920 --> 01:09:09,360
Speaker 1: then of course with the Steelers you get Fitzpatrick and Edmonds.

1248
01:09:09,360 --> 01:09:12,519
Speaker 1: How would you rank those? And one the five'spo stay

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Speaker 1: thinking is the Badger is someone to compete with? Manka

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01:09:16,680 --> 01:09:18,360
Speaker 1: is the best safety in the league. To be honest

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01:09:18,400 --> 01:09:21,800
Speaker 1: with you, they asked more of them, who I think,

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01:09:21,840 --> 01:09:29,880
Speaker 1: I go Matthew Manca, but I still might take now

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01:09:30,040 --> 01:09:33,760
Speaker 1: thorn Hill verse Edmonds is a question I'm just considering now.

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01:09:33,840 --> 01:09:36,200
Speaker 1: I'm I've narrowed it down to Chiefs Verst Steelers. I

1255
01:09:36,240 --> 01:09:38,960
Speaker 1: don't think Windfields in that conversation yet because he's still

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01:09:39,120 --> 01:09:41,080
Speaker 1: to Yeah, he's still a rookie. He's not one of

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01:09:41,120 --> 01:09:43,200
Speaker 1: the best in the position, right. I think the box

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01:09:43,280 --> 01:09:46,280
Speaker 1: have to be third. But their safeties are good. Yeah,

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01:09:46,360 --> 01:09:48,679
Speaker 1: they have a good young secondary that aren't household names.

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01:09:50,560 --> 01:09:52,760
Speaker 1: Thorne Hill is not bad. Thorn Hill is good. They

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01:09:52,760 --> 01:09:54,280
Speaker 1: ask a lot of them, does a lot of things

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Speaker 1: better when he's healthy. But that's not selling the Steelers short.

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Speaker 1: But I think they're a close Yeah, it's very close,

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01:10:01,280 --> 01:10:03,519
Speaker 1: but it's yeah, and they have a third guy. I

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01:10:03,560 --> 01:10:06,439
Speaker 1: mean Sorenson plays a lot as the linebacker type. Ye

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01:10:07,280 --> 01:10:09,880
Speaker 1: have a third guy like that, right, Yeah, but yeah,

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01:10:09,920 --> 01:10:12,800
Speaker 1: and Buck puts the butts third in that conversation. And

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01:10:13,280 --> 01:10:16,520
Speaker 1: they're not bad. They wouldn't be lasting many three team comparisons.

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Speaker 1: Interesting is how about it with the place kicker you

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Speaker 1: got suck Up versus Um. I don't think Bos versus

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Speaker 1: Harris's Harrison Booker versus Boswell. I think i'd go bos Bucker.

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Speaker 1: Bucker misses. Somebody's got a big leg. He's got a

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01:10:32,600 --> 01:10:34,280
Speaker 1: big leg. But yeah, you're ready. I mean he missed

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01:10:34,320 --> 01:10:38,240
Speaker 1: like five extra points this year, consistent. Yeah, Yeah, I

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01:10:38,280 --> 01:10:41,519
Speaker 1: think i'd go Bucks last, though I don't know about

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01:10:41,520 --> 01:10:46,040
Speaker 1: the potters. Um. What about the return game you got

1277
01:10:47,000 --> 01:10:50,760
Speaker 1: for Kansas City? You obviously you got McCole Hardman back there. Yeah,

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01:10:51,080 --> 01:10:53,160
Speaker 1: dangerous and they used Tyreek kill at times, although I

1279
01:10:53,240 --> 01:10:56,920
Speaker 1: think that kind of hurts them at times, like it's

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01:10:56,960 --> 01:10:58,760
Speaker 1: like when this kind of like an a b at

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01:10:58,800 --> 01:11:00,639
Speaker 1: the end. Yeah, trow him out there once in awhere.

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01:11:00,680 --> 01:11:02,320
Speaker 1: He takes some chances like I used to put something.

1283
01:11:02,680 --> 01:11:04,600
Speaker 1: They both put He and Harman both will put the

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01:11:04,640 --> 01:11:08,800
Speaker 1: ball on the ground. Yeah, where's Tampa Bay's you know

1285
01:11:08,880 --> 01:11:13,639
Speaker 1: you're looking at Jaden Mickens. Yeah, and then of course

1286
01:11:13,720 --> 01:11:16,760
Speaker 1: with the Steelers, it's Ravery McLeod who he's been good. Yeah,

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01:11:17,600 --> 01:11:20,760
Speaker 1: kind of flash down the down the stretch. I guess

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01:11:20,840 --> 01:11:25,880
Speaker 1: I go kse Pittsburgh Tampa. Yeah. I don't feel strong

1289
01:11:25,920 --> 01:11:27,519
Speaker 1: about it or feel like I have a really good

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01:11:27,640 --> 01:11:30,320
Speaker 1: understanding of it either, to be honest. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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01:11:30,479 --> 01:11:33,280
Speaker 1: The Steelers aren't distant thirds on these no there. I

1292
01:11:33,320 --> 01:11:36,200
Speaker 1: mean again, you can they can do some things this

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01:11:36,360 --> 01:11:40,439
Speaker 1: offseason to close that gap a little bit. Now, obviously

1294
01:11:41,640 --> 01:11:45,439
Speaker 1: the quarterback position is the quarterback position. Yeah, nobody's nobody's

1295
01:11:45,479 --> 01:11:47,760
Speaker 1: going to close the gap on the homes, you know,

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01:11:47,880 --> 01:11:49,680
Speaker 1: that is what it is. And their pass catchers will

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01:11:49,680 --> 01:11:52,720
Speaker 1: be pretty darn good. Yeah, but you can upgrade at

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01:11:52,760 --> 01:11:54,439
Speaker 1: running back where they were where they were last. You

1299
01:11:54,439 --> 01:11:57,719
Speaker 1: can upgrade it inside linebacker. Steelers definitely could be better.

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01:11:57,880 --> 01:11:59,560
Speaker 1: It could be the best running back room. And this

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01:11:59,680 --> 01:12:02,080
Speaker 1: a year from now. Oh yeah yeah, I mean you'll

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01:12:02,080 --> 01:12:03,840
Speaker 1: probably run it back with what they have, and you

1303
01:12:03,880 --> 01:12:06,719
Speaker 1: know that's fine, But I bet the Steelers find somebody

1304
01:12:06,920 --> 01:12:08,559
Speaker 1: to get better than what they have. That's the thing,

1305
01:12:08,600 --> 01:12:11,160
Speaker 1: you know, when I when I see the people who

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01:12:11,240 --> 01:12:18,920
Speaker 1: don't think that the Steelers can compete. It's a weird league,

1307
01:12:19,760 --> 01:12:22,360
Speaker 1: it is, and you can. A good draft can take

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01:12:22,400 --> 01:12:24,519
Speaker 1: you a long way. Right you find a second rounder

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01:12:24,600 --> 01:12:28,760
Speaker 1: like Winfield or Sneed, Yeah, I mean that's really helped

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01:12:28,800 --> 01:12:31,240
Speaker 1: these two defenses rookies. Earlier this week we did the

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01:12:31,439 --> 01:12:35,000
Speaker 1: with the redraft where Chase Claypool was what the eleventh

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01:12:35,080 --> 01:12:38,880
Speaker 1: overall pick and the Steelers got him in the second round. Like,

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01:12:39,040 --> 01:12:42,720
Speaker 1: I trust their process with with identifying rounder that helps

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01:12:42,760 --> 01:12:45,240
Speaker 1: his team. I would be yeah, I would be willing

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01:12:45,280 --> 01:12:47,120
Speaker 1: to bet they have a first and second rounder who

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01:12:47,160 --> 01:12:49,800
Speaker 1: helped right away with this team, and potentially a third

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01:12:49,880 --> 01:12:53,080
Speaker 1: or fourth rounder. Look, I mean they got Kevin Dawson

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01:12:53,120 --> 01:12:54,880
Speaker 1: in the fourth round this year. I trust his team

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01:12:54,960 --> 01:12:58,400
Speaker 1: to add three rookies that will be helpful, yeah, and

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01:12:58,680 --> 01:13:01,400
Speaker 1: potentially extreame. Like I mean, if they get a guy

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01:13:01,479 --> 01:13:04,520
Speaker 1: that comes in and makes a Chase Claypool like impact offensively,

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01:13:06,720 --> 01:13:08,719
Speaker 1: what if they draft Naj Harris and he's the rookie

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01:13:08,760 --> 01:13:10,680
Speaker 1: of the year and runs four yards? Right? You know

1324
01:13:10,680 --> 01:13:12,080
Speaker 1: what I mean is in the Pro Bowl, I was

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01:13:12,120 --> 01:13:15,120
Speaker 1: also people. I've been asked many times, would you would

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01:13:15,120 --> 01:13:19,280
Speaker 1: you which one helps more right away? Do you do

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01:13:19,360 --> 01:13:21,680
Speaker 1: you rebuild the line right away? Or did do you

1328
01:13:21,720 --> 01:13:24,639
Speaker 1: get the right Would you rather have the Steelers line

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01:13:26,000 --> 01:13:28,040
Speaker 1: with what it looked, what it's gonna look like here

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01:13:29,080 --> 01:13:31,040
Speaker 1: and a good running back? Or would you rather have

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01:13:32,479 --> 01:13:34,600
Speaker 1: two or three new guys on the offensive line and

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01:13:34,680 --> 01:13:37,000
Speaker 1: run back the same running backs that you had. I

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01:13:37,040 --> 01:13:38,640
Speaker 1: can't run back to the same running I would go

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01:13:38,720 --> 01:13:42,400
Speaker 1: with the running back. I mean to look at there

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01:13:42,439 --> 01:13:44,040
Speaker 1: were only like eight might be a quick fix that

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01:13:44,080 --> 01:13:46,720
Speaker 1: you regret two years from now, but it is a

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01:13:46,800 --> 01:13:50,800
Speaker 1: fix that you think. I mean, does Minnesota regret Dalvin Cook?

1338
01:13:52,120 --> 01:13:54,960
Speaker 1: Not at all at if you took Dalvin put it

1339
01:13:55,080 --> 01:13:57,479
Speaker 1: this way when when they didn't have Dalvin Cook this

1340
01:13:57,600 --> 01:13:59,840
Speaker 1: year and it was Alexander Madison as their primary back.

1341
01:14:00,040 --> 01:14:03,000
Speaker 1: Great line, he was awful. Madison was awful right right

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01:14:03,680 --> 01:14:06,360
Speaker 1: when it was Dalvin Cook, he was great. You know

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01:14:06,680 --> 01:14:11,320
Speaker 1: he he makes that line a lot better than it looks. Yes,

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01:14:11,479 --> 01:14:14,120
Speaker 1: that's about say too. Like the analytic doorc and me,

1345
01:14:14,200 --> 01:14:16,920
Speaker 1: you will always say draft lineman and running backs kind

1346
01:14:16,960 --> 01:14:20,439
Speaker 1: of don't matter until they do, until until you don't

1347
01:14:20,520 --> 01:14:22,720
Speaker 1: have one. The Steelers haven't had one that's made the

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01:14:22,800 --> 01:14:25,200
Speaker 1: line look better in a while. And you can forget

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01:14:25,760 --> 01:14:28,200
Speaker 1: leave Bell on his prime, we wouldn't be worried about

1350
01:14:28,200 --> 01:14:30,880
Speaker 1: the run blocking anymore. No, I mean they're they're run

1351
01:14:30,960 --> 01:14:33,200
Speaker 1: blocking was perfectly set up for what leave Bell does?

1352
01:14:33,720 --> 01:14:36,040
Speaker 1: You know, you're setting screens out there for you know. Yeah,

1353
01:14:36,200 --> 01:14:38,600
Speaker 1: and this line would have been fine this year with

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01:14:38,800 --> 01:14:42,200
Speaker 1: two thousand seventeen love Bell, Yeah, no doubt about it. Yeah,

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01:14:42,200 --> 01:14:44,200
Speaker 1: I mean you get a difference maker at that back position.

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01:14:44,400 --> 01:14:46,680
Speaker 1: It would have a ripple effect. Absolutely, It makes your

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01:14:46,800 --> 01:14:49,080
Speaker 1: makes your receivers better, It opens up every I mean,

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01:14:49,600 --> 01:14:51,760
Speaker 1: and this is a conversation for later day that with

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01:14:51,880 --> 01:14:55,280
Speaker 1: the figure out. But is Javonte william Is good enough

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01:14:55,320 --> 01:14:59,160
Speaker 1: to do that? I think, Harris is, I'm not interested

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01:14:59,160 --> 01:15:02,080
Speaker 1: in at the en You're not gonna sign Aaron Jones.

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01:15:02,360 --> 01:15:05,000
Speaker 1: You like, who's who's capable of? Really? What can they

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01:15:05,120 --> 01:15:07,560
Speaker 1: what can they potentially do to fix that? Yeah? And

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01:15:07,840 --> 01:15:11,240
Speaker 1: it's probably how many available options can make the line

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01:15:11,360 --> 01:15:14,080
Speaker 1: look better. Yeah, it's probably those two guys. Probably those

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01:15:14,120 --> 01:15:16,439
Speaker 1: two guys, right, And I don't know if Williams is

1367
01:15:16,479 --> 01:15:20,439
Speaker 1: good enough or not. Maybe yeah, maybe, but he's an upgrade. Oh,

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01:15:20,520 --> 01:15:23,360
Speaker 1: he's definitely. Yeah, they're they're ten guys in the draft.

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01:15:23,400 --> 01:15:27,600
Speaker 1: It would be an upgrade. Yeah. Anyways, that's that's that

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01:15:27,720 --> 01:15:30,240
Speaker 1: little exercise. But the Steelers aren't as far off as

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01:15:30,280 --> 01:15:32,960
Speaker 1: some people seem to think he is. Matt Williamson, I'm

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Speaker 1: Dale Lali. You're listening to the drive here on Steelers

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01:15:35,520 --> 01:15:37,720
Speaker 1: Nation Radio. We're gonna take another break. When we come back,

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Speaker 1: we'll make our pitch for the super Bowl right after

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Speaker 1: this your tunes about drive home of the Black and

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Speaker 1: Goal Steelers Nation Radio. Welcome back, m dail. I'll hit

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Speaker 1: with Matt Williamson. And Matt it's time for us to

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01:16:30,160 --> 01:16:32,560
Speaker 1: make our Super Bowl picks. And I will let you

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01:16:33,040 --> 01:16:41,080
Speaker 1: go first. Casey thirty eight, Tampa thirty Case Why this

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01:16:41,280 --> 01:16:45,439
Speaker 1: is a long conversation. But I think the Bucks, or

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01:16:45,800 --> 01:16:48,280
Speaker 1: I think the Chiefs will beg the Bucks to run

1382
01:16:48,320 --> 01:16:51,000
Speaker 1: the ball, and I think they'll take the bait. You know,

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01:16:51,080 --> 01:16:54,120
Speaker 1: they'll they'll come out in twelve personnel. The Chiefs will

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01:16:54,160 --> 01:16:56,720
Speaker 1: be in nickel or dime and light and Brady's gonna

1385
01:16:56,760 --> 01:16:58,840
Speaker 1: hand at the fore neet and they're gonna quote gash

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01:16:58,920 --> 01:17:01,719
Speaker 1: the Chiefs over and over her and everyone on Twitter

1387
01:17:01,800 --> 01:17:03,599
Speaker 1: and their living rooms are gonna be like, boy, they

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01:17:03,640 --> 01:17:06,720
Speaker 1: can't stop the run their control in this game. And

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01:17:07,120 --> 01:17:09,800
Speaker 1: the Chiefs will kind of twist their mustache and say, yeah,

1390
01:17:09,880 --> 01:17:11,840
Speaker 1: but that doesn't get you to thirty five, and that's

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01:17:11,880 --> 01:17:13,439
Speaker 1: not gonna be enough to beat us in the end.

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01:17:14,240 --> 01:17:16,439
Speaker 1: And I don't think Kansas City will run the ball

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01:17:16,560 --> 01:17:18,920
Speaker 1: at all, and against what I think is the best

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01:17:18,960 --> 01:17:21,920
Speaker 1: run defensive league. And I don't think their offensive linemen

1395
01:17:21,960 --> 01:17:25,759
Speaker 1: are moving Sue and Veya, and that they're gonna screen

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01:17:25,840 --> 01:17:29,280
Speaker 1: them to death and quick throws and shots. And by

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01:17:29,479 --> 01:17:32,759
Speaker 1: the fourth quarter, Tampa is gonna be tired rushing the passer,

1398
01:17:33,439 --> 01:17:36,680
Speaker 1: and Mahomes and Reid will have all their checks and

1399
01:17:36,840 --> 01:17:42,679
Speaker 1: coverage changes figured out and they'll blow it up. Okay,

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01:17:43,000 --> 01:17:45,439
Speaker 1: that's my logic, that's your logic. Yeah, man, that makes

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01:17:45,439 --> 01:17:48,240
Speaker 1: a lot of sense. I've got the Chiefs winning this one.

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01:17:49,400 --> 01:17:52,160
Speaker 1: I think it stays a little bit closer, uh, in

1403
01:17:52,280 --> 01:17:54,280
Speaker 1: large part because of what you're talking about there. I

1404
01:17:54,360 --> 01:17:58,280
Speaker 1: think this theory that, well, you gotta run the ball

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01:17:58,320 --> 01:18:00,080
Speaker 1: to keep the the cheat you know, they keep my

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01:18:00,160 --> 01:18:02,160
Speaker 1: homes on the sidelines. Well that's great. I think you

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01:18:02,240 --> 01:18:03,800
Speaker 1: need to score a lot of points, but you gotta

1408
01:18:03,840 --> 01:18:06,439
Speaker 1: stop him. Like all you're doing is you're shortening the game,

1409
01:18:07,240 --> 01:18:11,320
Speaker 1: which is fine, but you're also shortening your possessions to

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01:18:11,439 --> 01:18:14,800
Speaker 1: score points, so you better take advantage of that. And

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01:18:15,040 --> 01:18:18,200
Speaker 1: to me, I can't get the thought out of my

1412
01:18:18,320 --> 01:18:21,800
Speaker 1: head of of Brady turning the ball over three times

1413
01:18:21,840 --> 01:18:24,519
Speaker 1: in the in the NFC Championship, a couple of which

1414
01:18:24,560 --> 01:18:27,040
Speaker 1: he just threw the ball for grabs. And if he

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01:18:27,120 --> 01:18:30,920
Speaker 1: does that against this team, Matho was gonna I would

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01:18:30,960 --> 01:18:33,320
Speaker 1: not surprise me for math Out to take one to

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01:18:33,400 --> 01:18:37,799
Speaker 1: the house or yeah. Um. The other thing about Brady,

1418
01:18:38,080 --> 01:18:40,960
Speaker 1: he's playing really well. They protect him really well. He

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01:18:41,000 --> 01:18:43,000
Speaker 1: didn't like to get hit, doesn't like to get hit,

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01:18:43,120 --> 01:18:47,000
Speaker 1: and his numbers quote when pressured, are way worse than

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01:18:47,200 --> 01:18:50,439
Speaker 1: clean pocket. And they may run on the Chiefs, but

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01:18:50,640 --> 01:18:53,120
Speaker 1: eventually it's gonna be third and six and Spagnola is

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01:18:53,160 --> 01:18:55,280
Speaker 1: gonna doll a blitz is and Chris Jones is a

1424
01:18:55,439 --> 01:18:58,479
Speaker 1: nasty dude. And I just see Brady maybe not getting

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01:18:58,560 --> 01:19:01,320
Speaker 1: hit a ton, but throwing it in people's feet, throwing

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01:19:01,360 --> 01:19:03,519
Speaker 1: it away, you know, live to fight another day. I

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01:19:03,640 --> 01:19:06,000
Speaker 1: can't get the image I can't get the image out

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01:19:06,040 --> 01:19:07,880
Speaker 1: of my mind of the of the last inner. I

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01:19:07,920 --> 01:19:12,000
Speaker 1: think it was the last interception he threw where Green

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01:19:12,080 --> 01:19:16,080
Speaker 1: Bay blitzed the corner off the edge at the corner,

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01:19:16,160 --> 01:19:19,120
Speaker 1: never even got he got he got within three yards

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01:19:19,160 --> 01:19:20,920
Speaker 1: of Brady, and Brady threw the ball up in the

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01:19:20,960 --> 01:19:23,240
Speaker 1: air and duck to the ground, never got hit. I

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01:19:23,280 --> 01:19:25,479
Speaker 1: bet there's five plays like that like he does not

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01:19:26,640 --> 01:19:28,400
Speaker 1: just I'm not gonna take a hit here. I'm just

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01:19:28,439 --> 01:19:30,080
Speaker 1: gonna throw the ball for grass and trust that my

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01:19:30,160 --> 01:19:34,280
Speaker 1: receiver is gonna go get it. Johnny Manzel like, I mean,

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Speaker 1: that's what Johnny Manzel did to get drafted in the

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01:19:36,280 --> 01:19:38,439
Speaker 1: first round. Just throw it up from Mike Evans, Mike

1440
01:19:38,479 --> 01:19:41,000
Speaker 1: Evans in That's what works in when you're Texas A

1441
01:19:41,080 --> 01:19:44,160
Speaker 1: and m doesn't work as well when you're in the NFL.

1442
01:19:45,240 --> 01:19:47,479
Speaker 1: And I do think Evans and Godwin will make plays

1443
01:19:47,680 --> 01:19:50,840
Speaker 1: and Brady will probably beat the blitz four times two

1444
01:19:50,960 --> 01:19:53,680
Speaker 1: for big plays. Fine, And that's why they blitz so

1445
01:19:53,800 --> 01:19:55,800
Speaker 1: much because they know my home they're going to score.

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01:19:55,920 --> 01:19:59,320
Speaker 1: That's what they trust. They're a very aggressive defense because

1447
01:19:59,360 --> 01:20:01,839
Speaker 1: they can be because they're very good at complimentary football

1448
01:20:01,880 --> 01:20:04,080
Speaker 1: team and I think I mentioned this earlier in the week,

1449
01:20:04,160 --> 01:20:07,200
Speaker 1: but Pat Mahomes has lost nine games as an NFL player.

1450
01:20:07,840 --> 01:20:10,719
Speaker 1: The average points scored against the Chiefs in those games

1451
01:20:10,960 --> 01:20:14,599
Speaker 1: is like thirty six point nine. Like you're not winning

1452
01:20:14,600 --> 01:20:19,960
Speaker 1: this game, you know, like you this game. I don't

1453
01:20:20,000 --> 01:20:23,920
Speaker 1: know the Tampa will. We saw that the Steelers tried

1454
01:20:24,120 --> 01:20:28,240
Speaker 1: that brand of football early in this season, keepaway, it

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01:20:28,280 --> 01:20:31,760
Speaker 1: doesn't work. Like they were blitzing like crazy. They were

1456
01:20:31,840 --> 01:20:35,200
Speaker 1: running the football, uh and and say, oh, which is

1457
01:20:35,280 --> 01:20:37,200
Speaker 1: what you know we're gonna take. We're gonna take chances.

1458
01:20:38,240 --> 01:20:41,120
Speaker 1: And what happened like they were giving up big plays

1459
01:20:41,160 --> 01:20:43,080
Speaker 1: down the field, and they said, well, we can't do

1460
01:20:43,160 --> 01:20:44,760
Speaker 1: that anymore. We don't, we don't want to do that,

1461
01:20:45,320 --> 01:20:47,080
Speaker 1: and so they started playing a little more close to us.

1462
01:20:47,120 --> 01:20:49,160
Speaker 1: That's when they started more of the short passing game

1463
01:20:50,120 --> 01:20:53,880
Speaker 1: and trying to control the football. But if you have

1464
01:20:54,040 --> 01:20:57,840
Speaker 1: an explosive offense, you can get you can play you

1465
01:20:57,880 --> 01:20:59,639
Speaker 1: can play that way, you can play that way. Okay,

1466
01:20:59,640 --> 01:21:02,559
Speaker 1: you'd be so the top pat right back, you know, right,

1467
01:21:02,640 --> 01:21:05,000
Speaker 1: I mean everybody and you know everybody in They barely

1468
01:21:05,040 --> 01:21:07,400
Speaker 1: beat Denver because they were blitzing like crazy. You know,

1469
01:21:07,479 --> 01:21:10,080
Speaker 1: they barely beat the Giants. Well they were blitzing. You know, Yeah,

1470
01:21:10,080 --> 01:21:11,760
Speaker 1: you're gonna give up some plays down the field. But

1471
01:21:11,800 --> 01:21:14,400
Speaker 1: if you're off you trust at your offense, we're gonna

1472
01:21:14,439 --> 01:21:16,800
Speaker 1: score at least thirty five. If you know that, it

1473
01:21:16,920 --> 01:21:18,200
Speaker 1: makes it a heck a lot easier to be an

1474
01:21:18,240 --> 01:21:21,000
Speaker 1: aggressive play call. Absolutely, and you're trying to force them

1475
01:21:21,040 --> 01:21:23,519
Speaker 1: in the mistakes. That's that was their playing going into

1476
01:21:23,520 --> 01:21:26,160
Speaker 1: the season. Well we're gonna score. If we could score

1477
01:21:26,240 --> 01:21:29,680
Speaker 1: thirty our defense is great taking the football away, so we'll,

1478
01:21:30,000 --> 01:21:32,479
Speaker 1: you know, we'll we'll live that way. Well, it's it's

1479
01:21:32,479 --> 01:21:35,280
Speaker 1: a it's a dangerous line to walk if you don't

1480
01:21:35,320 --> 01:21:38,839
Speaker 1: have Patrick Mahomes Tyree Kilby get back in a heartbeat

1481
01:21:38,920 --> 01:21:40,720
Speaker 1: in two thousand fifteen. That would have been a fine

1482
01:21:40,760 --> 01:21:42,519
Speaker 1: way to play for the Steelers if they had they

1483
01:21:42,600 --> 01:21:44,479
Speaker 1: had a defense that took the football way and they didn't.

1484
01:21:44,800 --> 01:21:46,800
Speaker 1: It's a fine way to play. I mean, it's that's

1485
01:21:46,800 --> 01:21:49,679
Speaker 1: how Peyton Manning won the Super Bowl. I mean, Soudrew

1486
01:21:49,720 --> 01:21:52,439
Speaker 1: Brees one is Super Bowl sure. And the other thing

1487
01:21:52,520 --> 01:21:56,160
Speaker 1: that people need to realize is Magnolo, the Chiefs defensive coordinator,

1488
01:21:56,280 --> 01:21:59,120
Speaker 1: was the Giants one whenever they beat Brady and he's

1489
01:21:59,160 --> 01:22:00,960
Speaker 1: got three or four guys him that staff on their

1490
01:22:01,000 --> 01:22:04,599
Speaker 1: defensive staff, and not there isn't the book to beat Brady,

1491
01:22:04,800 --> 01:22:08,360
Speaker 1: but interior pressure and hitting him and forcing the ball

1492
01:22:08,360 --> 01:22:10,719
Speaker 1: of his hands certainly is now. I think Chris Jones

1493
01:22:10,760 --> 01:22:13,559
Speaker 1: will do that without pressure. And I bet Maagnolo has

1494
01:22:13,600 --> 01:22:16,080
Speaker 1: a lot of six man blitz is you know, anytime

1495
01:22:16,120 --> 01:22:18,479
Speaker 1: they get him in third down, they're gonna come after him.

1496
01:22:18,680 --> 01:22:21,599
Speaker 1: And I just don't know that that. Yes, you're their

1497
01:22:21,800 --> 01:22:26,920
Speaker 1: their line is going to pressure Patrick Mahomes. But and

1498
01:22:27,000 --> 01:22:28,680
Speaker 1: they may cause us some big plays and they may

1499
01:22:28,720 --> 01:22:31,719
Speaker 1: sack him three or four times, and that's fine. He's

1500
01:22:31,720 --> 01:22:33,360
Speaker 1: still so tough to get on the greens, will be

1501
01:22:33,439 --> 01:22:35,600
Speaker 1: tough to get on the ground and extend plays. And

1502
01:22:36,680 --> 01:22:38,240
Speaker 1: that's when he's to me, is when he's at his

1503
01:22:38,320 --> 01:22:41,439
Speaker 1: most dangerous, when he starts running around. Uh It's it's

1504
01:22:41,439 --> 01:22:44,640
Speaker 1: almost Roethlisberger like from earlier in his career, except this

1505
01:22:44,760 --> 01:22:46,679
Speaker 1: guy can throw the ball sixty yards on the line,

1506
01:22:46,840 --> 01:22:50,479
Speaker 1: and you know, ash and right, it's just so hard

1507
01:22:50,560 --> 01:22:52,840
Speaker 1: on your cover man, you know, like you got a

1508
01:22:53,280 --> 01:22:58,439
Speaker 1: plaster Kelsey and Hill let alone. You know, even Edwards

1509
01:22:58,520 --> 01:23:01,599
Speaker 1: Hilaire and hard And and Watkins. If those five are

1510
01:23:01,640 --> 01:23:04,519
Speaker 1: out on a route and the Homes buys half a

1511
01:23:04,640 --> 01:23:08,759
Speaker 1: second extra, someone's open. Yeah, someone's open. And the problem

1512
01:23:08,840 --> 01:23:11,519
Speaker 1: with it is, you know, if you're safety, you know,

1513
01:23:11,600 --> 01:23:13,519
Speaker 1: he starts scrambling around and all of a sudden, you're

1514
01:23:13,520 --> 01:23:16,040
Speaker 1: safety start peeking in the backfield and they start creeping up.

1515
01:23:16,520 --> 01:23:19,559
Speaker 1: Next thing, you know, Tyreek or Hardman or I'm gonna

1516
01:23:19,560 --> 01:23:22,920
Speaker 1: go kill the homes. The middle of the fields wide open,

1517
01:23:23,920 --> 01:23:28,080
Speaker 1: open and after the catches there and again, I just

1518
01:23:28,160 --> 01:23:29,880
Speaker 1: think it's kind of the Super Bowl last year, Like

1519
01:23:29,920 --> 01:23:31,479
Speaker 1: he was under a lot of pressure from that nine

1520
01:23:31,600 --> 01:23:33,920
Speaker 1: or d line, which is better than this front. But

1521
01:23:34,040 --> 01:23:36,559
Speaker 1: his blockers were better too, but by the end they

1522
01:23:36,600 --> 01:23:40,080
Speaker 1: were a little tired. And and the problem with that

1523
01:23:40,240 --> 01:23:43,040
Speaker 1: game was that, you know, yes, well, the the the

1524
01:23:43,520 --> 01:23:46,720
Speaker 1: I think the can or the San Francisco went into

1525
01:23:46,880 --> 01:23:49,639
Speaker 1: with a two score lead into the fourth quarter. That's

1526
01:23:49,680 --> 01:23:52,479
Speaker 1: not enough. It's not enough. I mean, like I mentioned

1527
01:23:52,520 --> 01:23:55,720
Speaker 1: with my prediction, by the fourth quarter, you're gonna be

1528
01:23:55,800 --> 01:23:57,720
Speaker 1: out of defensive play calls. You're gonna be out of

1529
01:23:57,760 --> 01:24:01,280
Speaker 1: new stuff. Especially if I throw sixty times, and I've

1530
01:24:01,360 --> 01:24:04,080
Speaker 1: seen I've put every formation out there, and I've seen

1531
01:24:04,120 --> 01:24:07,200
Speaker 1: all your checks. And if I'm getting predictable coverages from

1532
01:24:07,200 --> 01:24:10,840
Speaker 1: my homes and read downten and going to the fourth quarter,

1533
01:24:11,439 --> 01:24:14,000
Speaker 1: I'm live betting the Chiefs. You know what I mean.

1534
01:24:14,960 --> 01:24:17,200
Speaker 1: They're gonna get There's Yeah, it might be late, but

1535
01:24:17,240 --> 01:24:20,479
Speaker 1: they're gonna get him. I agree. Um, I hope Brady.

1536
01:24:20,680 --> 01:24:22,760
Speaker 1: I know people at Brady's not the most popular guy here,

1537
01:24:23,400 --> 01:24:26,000
Speaker 1: and he's had a remarkable run and his stock is

1538
01:24:26,080 --> 01:24:28,640
Speaker 1: so high. I hope he doesn't look old in this

1539
01:24:28,760 --> 01:24:32,040
Speaker 1: game because he might. This might not be his finest moment.

1540
01:24:32,080 --> 01:24:33,880
Speaker 1: It might be his finest moment, but it might not

1541
01:24:34,040 --> 01:24:38,720
Speaker 1: be He might look beat up in brittle and old. Yeah. Um.

1542
01:24:39,000 --> 01:24:42,639
Speaker 1: Some quick news and notes here. The Steelers have hired

1543
01:24:42,800 --> 01:24:46,400
Speaker 1: a quarterbacks coach. Have been Mike Sullivan, the former Giants

1544
01:24:46,640 --> 01:24:50,280
Speaker 1: quarterbacks coach. He was an offensive coordinator for the Giants,

1545
01:24:50,560 --> 01:24:53,720
Speaker 1: and I believe I want to say, uh, after some

1546
01:24:53,800 --> 01:24:56,559
Speaker 1: homework on him, I forget where else he was. Quarter

1547
01:24:56,840 --> 01:25:00,479
Speaker 1: might have been Chicago, Yeah, depends, no, den I'm sorry

1548
01:25:00,479 --> 01:25:02,479
Speaker 1: he was. He was hired in Denver and then Fangio

1549
01:25:02,560 --> 01:25:04,120
Speaker 1: came in and let him go and he went back

1550
01:25:04,160 --> 01:25:07,400
Speaker 1: to back to the Giants. But um, I'm sure more

1551
01:25:07,439 --> 01:25:09,519
Speaker 1: news on him on Monday. He was actually the offensive

1552
01:25:09,520 --> 01:25:15,320
Speaker 1: coordinator under your boy Ben McAdoo, probably as West Coast Ties.

1553
01:25:16,560 --> 01:25:19,200
Speaker 1: It'll be interesting. I'm curious what he's a uh he

1554
01:25:19,479 --> 01:25:22,960
Speaker 1: uh he played football at Army Uh like that. Yeah,

1555
01:25:23,479 --> 01:25:27,080
Speaker 1: so he was an Army Ranger, so there's there's some

1556
01:25:27,160 --> 01:25:31,000
Speaker 1: discipline there. And he was eli's quarterbacks coach for both

1557
01:25:31,080 --> 01:25:33,559
Speaker 1: Super Bowls. So he's also been a wide receivers coach

1558
01:25:33,600 --> 01:25:35,479
Speaker 1: with the Giants. If you lose an Army Ranger, it's

1559
01:25:35,479 --> 01:25:39,280
Speaker 1: always good to bring in another big alley even so, yeah,

1560
01:25:39,320 --> 01:25:41,160
Speaker 1: that that hires we made, that leaves the Steelers then

1561
01:25:41,240 --> 01:25:43,880
Speaker 1: with just two openings on the staff, that being uh

1562
01:25:43,960 --> 01:25:46,280
Speaker 1: for defensive backs. We'll see if they just say, hey,

1563
01:25:46,439 --> 01:25:50,200
Speaker 1: we're gonna make through all austin the defensive and we're

1564
01:25:50,200 --> 01:25:53,880
Speaker 1: just gonna hire an assistant secondary coach. Makes perfect sense.

1565
01:25:53,960 --> 01:25:58,160
Speaker 1: And then of course the assistant offensive line coach. Okay, interesting,

1566
01:25:58,720 --> 01:26:00,880
Speaker 1: and I guess claim will be high heavily involved in that,

1567
01:26:01,120 --> 01:26:04,800
Speaker 1: and maybe he gets a Patriot hie. Perhaps. Yeah, we'll see.

1568
01:26:04,800 --> 01:26:08,000
Speaker 1: We'll see where he goes with that. But yeah, I thought, yeah,

1569
01:26:08,040 --> 01:26:11,160
Speaker 1: that's that's uh. That that's uh. The staff are starting

1570
01:26:11,160 --> 01:26:14,040
Speaker 1: to round in the shape. And at this time next week,

1571
01:26:14,120 --> 01:26:17,120
Speaker 1: well at this time next Monday, we're into the off season.

1572
01:26:17,439 --> 01:26:20,240
Speaker 1: It's officially the off season. Yeah, we might have some

1573
01:26:20,320 --> 01:26:22,240
Speaker 1: new Hall of Famers. We might have a we will

1574
01:26:22,320 --> 01:26:24,439
Speaker 1: have that. That's where I was gonna go next, the

1575
01:26:24,479 --> 01:26:27,559
Speaker 1: Hall of Fame, uh, and it will be announced tomorrow night.

1576
01:26:27,600 --> 01:26:29,720
Speaker 1: We'll also know who the Defensive Player of the Year was.

1577
01:26:30,160 --> 01:26:33,080
Speaker 1: That's all in the awards show. Um. But of course

1578
01:26:33,120 --> 01:26:38,120
Speaker 1: Alan Fanica and Bill Nunn sr Um, the candidates from

1579
01:26:38,160 --> 01:26:42,760
Speaker 1: the Steelers that see if they get in heck of

1580
01:26:42,840 --> 01:26:47,599
Speaker 1: a time next year at the the Hall of Fame game. Ye,

1581
01:26:48,840 --> 01:26:50,680
Speaker 1: be interesting to see what that's going to look like

1582
01:26:50,840 --> 01:26:52,559
Speaker 1: next year, the Hall of Fame Game. But the Steelers

1583
01:26:52,560 --> 01:26:56,120
Speaker 1: are already penciled into that game. Actually, turn they're engraved

1584
01:26:56,160 --> 01:26:58,160
Speaker 1: in that game and pen with the Dallas Cowboys. So

1585
01:26:58,320 --> 01:27:01,840
Speaker 1: so I assume that their camp will open a week

1586
01:27:01,920 --> 01:27:05,240
Speaker 1: earlier than everybody else's. I mean, no matter what version

1587
01:27:05,280 --> 01:27:10,040
Speaker 1: of camp we have. Hopefully there's a preseason. Hopefully I'm

1588
01:27:10,120 --> 01:27:13,320
Speaker 1: leaning towards that's going to be the case. Um, But

1589
01:27:13,520 --> 01:27:16,760
Speaker 1: four games or five and the Steelers and Cowboys games. Well,

1590
01:27:16,840 --> 01:27:18,800
Speaker 1: if they go to seventeen games next year, which is

1591
01:27:18,800 --> 01:27:21,120
Speaker 1: a distinct possibility, I think that's going to happen, then

1592
01:27:21,320 --> 01:27:24,479
Speaker 1: may you cut that preseason back? It probably probably the

1593
01:27:24,520 --> 01:27:27,160
Speaker 1: twosome to maybe just three preseason games, which I'd be

1594
01:27:27,200 --> 01:27:29,599
Speaker 1: fine with. I think that's the right move. And there's

1595
01:27:29,640 --> 01:27:32,400
Speaker 1: more revenue and what we're talking cap a lot, and

1596
01:27:32,520 --> 01:27:34,320
Speaker 1: the last cap news I heard, I think you sent

1597
01:27:34,400 --> 01:27:36,920
Speaker 1: it to me, Um, Tom pel Sero or one of

1598
01:27:36,960 --> 01:27:40,840
Speaker 1: those is predicting now. Yeah, they as they started negotiations

1599
01:27:41,160 --> 01:27:43,840
Speaker 1: late last month. I assumed during the bye week the

1600
01:27:43,960 --> 01:27:47,040
Speaker 1: NFL and NFL p A got together and started talking

1601
01:27:47,080 --> 01:27:49,720
Speaker 1: about this stuff. And after this weekend's news, I guess

1602
01:27:49,760 --> 01:27:53,160
Speaker 1: that will be the next milestone announcement a week or

1603
01:27:53,200 --> 01:27:56,679
Speaker 1: two down the road, potentially, although Roger Goodell's belief said

1604
01:27:56,760 --> 01:27:59,280
Speaker 1: yesterday that perhaps I could go up to the UH,

1605
01:28:00,000 --> 01:28:02,400
Speaker 1: it could go up to the deadline on that. We'll see.

1606
01:28:02,439 --> 01:28:05,360
Speaker 1: I mean that's February. There's so much that comes out

1607
01:28:05,439 --> 01:28:09,120
Speaker 1: now that's negotiating ploys, like you see those numbers thrown

1608
01:28:09,160 --> 01:28:10,439
Speaker 1: out there and all season long as well. It's a

1609
01:28:10,520 --> 01:28:13,280
Speaker 1: hundred seventy five million, and then you see the number floated, Well,

1610
01:28:13,280 --> 01:28:16,639
Speaker 1: it could be a hundred and eighty million. I'll think

1611
01:28:16,680 --> 01:28:19,479
Speaker 1: the over I think it's gonna be much closer to

1612
01:28:19,600 --> 01:28:21,800
Speaker 1: the hundred ninety eight point four million than it was

1613
01:28:21,920 --> 01:28:23,600
Speaker 1: this year than it was then it will be to

1614
01:28:23,640 --> 01:28:25,760
Speaker 1: the hundred seventy five million that was the floor. All

1615
01:28:25,800 --> 01:28:27,639
Speaker 1: this is good news for Steelers, by the way. Yeah,

1616
01:28:27,680 --> 01:28:29,519
Speaker 1: I mean every team looks. The higher it goes, the

1617
01:28:30,320 --> 01:28:33,840
Speaker 1: less the less negotiating you have to do, the less

1618
01:28:34,240 --> 01:28:36,720
Speaker 1: jockeying around of your of your own roster. And I

1619
01:28:36,760 --> 01:28:39,200
Speaker 1: guess we could have a Roethlisberger announcement at some point,

1620
01:28:40,040 --> 01:28:43,000
Speaker 1: who knows when, at some point, Yeah, returning or not,

1621
01:28:43,120 --> 01:28:46,679
Speaker 1: because you can do that. You can do that without

1622
01:28:46,800 --> 01:28:49,639
Speaker 1: knowing what exactly the You might have a hard number

1623
01:28:49,680 --> 01:28:52,320
Speaker 1: on him the way, right, Yeah, this is the number

1624
01:28:52,360 --> 01:28:53,960
Speaker 1: we were. We want to get it down to this number.

1625
01:28:54,000 --> 01:28:56,800
Speaker 1: Whether whether the cap is a hundred ninety million or

1626
01:28:56,880 --> 01:28:58,960
Speaker 1: hundred eighty five million or hundred nine five million, it

1627
01:28:59,000 --> 01:29:01,519
Speaker 1: doesn't matter. Just gonna have to think they have that number.

1628
01:29:01,560 --> 01:29:03,800
Speaker 1: And they're talking as we speak to some degree. Yeah,

1629
01:29:03,880 --> 01:29:05,559
Speaker 1: this is a contract we can do. These will all

1630
01:29:05,600 --> 01:29:07,240
Speaker 1: be things that will be going on over the next

1631
01:29:07,320 --> 01:29:10,200
Speaker 1: few weeks. But once we get to once we get

1632
01:29:10,240 --> 01:29:12,640
Speaker 1: the Monday, March seventeenth is right around the corner, and

1633
01:29:12,680 --> 01:29:16,240
Speaker 1: that's the opening of the new league year and free agency. Yeah,

1634
01:29:16,520 --> 01:29:19,120
Speaker 1: free agencies knocking on the door. Yeah, So we'll get

1635
01:29:19,160 --> 01:29:21,920
Speaker 1: to that too. So the news never stops coming here

1636
01:29:22,320 --> 01:29:24,720
Speaker 1: and that's why we are here all the time. But

1637
01:29:25,280 --> 01:29:29,080
Speaker 1: a week for future notice and who knows when. Absolutely,

1638
01:29:29,160 --> 01:29:31,680
Speaker 1: But you can also subscribe on the Apple iTunes or

1639
01:29:31,680 --> 01:29:34,519
Speaker 1: wherever you get your your downloads. Go ahead and do that.

1640
01:29:34,840 --> 01:29:37,000
Speaker 1: You don't have to listen live. You can listen anytime,

1641
01:29:37,280 --> 01:29:39,400
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1642
01:29:39,439 --> 01:29:42,800
Speaker 1: be available all the time, but form a partner. Matt

1643
01:29:42,840 --> 01:29:46,240
Speaker 1: Williamson for Jacob Here on site. I'm Dale Lally and

1644
01:29:46,400 --> 01:29:48,680
Speaker 1: we thank you for listening to this edition of The

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