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Speaker 2: you got football coming up tonight. Chargers Raiders. A lot
Speaker 2: of promise in the preseason. A lot of people like
Speaker 2: the Raiders. You know, playoff team, playoff talent. You got
Speaker 2: a really good edge rusher, you got a really good
Speaker 2: wide receiver, you got a really good running back. We
Speaker 2: weren't sure at the quarterbacking position and the head coach.
Speaker 2: Now all of a sudden, you look at this team
Speaker 2: and you're still not quite sure. What is the future
Speaker 2: of this team? Is DeVante Adams going to be there
Speaker 2: next year? Is he going to be with the Jets
Speaker 2: next year? Max Crosby's Wonder, Josh Jacobs, and then is
Speaker 2: Aidan O'Connell kid out of Purdue.
Speaker 3: Is he the future there? And then you have the Chargers.
Speaker 2: It feels like every year, man, do they have a
Speaker 2: lot of skilled position players? And they do, and every
Speaker 2: year it feels like we say the same thing, what
Speaker 2: happened to the Chargers?
Speaker 3: Now?
Speaker 2: Sometimes they get to the postseason, they have a big
Speaker 2: lead on Jacksonville and then blow it. But injuries always
Speaker 2: And now you have your quarterback out, You've got a
Speaker 2: coach who's sort of hanging in the balance with his
Speaker 2: career there, it's going to be an attractive job, I
Speaker 2: would think for somebody because you walk in with a
Speaker 2: franchise quarterback.
Speaker 3: But they're the Chargers.
Speaker 2: I do think of all the sports teams when you
Speaker 2: think about who gets more of a Hall pass, the.
Speaker 3: Chargers are right there. And I think for a couple
Speaker 3: of reasons.
Speaker 2: You know, they're not important, you know in their city
Speaker 2: as far as the pecking order of teams. They have
Speaker 2: wonderful uniforms, and it almost feels like we're like, yeah,
Speaker 2: they're not too good, they're not living up to their promise,
Speaker 2: But man, those uniforms look awesome. Man, Justin Herbert looks
Speaker 2: like a franchise quarterback. How about those uniforms?
Speaker 3: Is there anybody else where we go?
Speaker 2: You know, like Jacksonville a little bit maybe this year,
Speaker 2: last year, you're kind of going, Okay, do they take
Speaker 2: the next step? But not at the level of the Chargers,
Speaker 2: because the Chargers do have some really good players, big
Speaker 2: name players. They just haven't put it all together and
Speaker 2: they'll probably have a new head coach next year and
Speaker 2: start over again.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 5: Pulling with the Chargers going back to when they were
Speaker 5: in San Diego for years, I've always had the feeling
Speaker 5: that they got a bit of a hall pass because
Speaker 5: there's not a truckload of media in San Diego, but
Speaker 5: the lifestyle there, that's a place where if you live
Speaker 5: in San Diego, you've kind of made it. Life is good,
Speaker 5: weather's great, lifestyle by the water. It's not an angry community.
Speaker 5: You live in Philly. There's things to be angry about,
Speaker 5: and your team makes you happy and angry, but it
Speaker 5: never felt like that. It's the community where you catch
Speaker 5: a lot.
Speaker 2: Of venom if you've had a bad football Teamah, it's
Speaker 2: like the expectation level is, like, man, what is wrong
Speaker 2: with our team? Like the passion that's there or maybe
Speaker 2: it's not there. And look, I so many times I'd say,
Speaker 2: you know, I like the Chargers this year, and so
Speaker 2: many times we'd get to the end of the regular
Speaker 2: season or the first round of the playoffs and I go, yep,
Speaker 2: not going to make that mistake again. And then I
Speaker 2: would the next year, even when they had Philip Rivers
Speaker 2: and now with Justin Herbert. But you have that game
Speaker 2: coming up tonight and it's a homework assignment. Somebody's got
Speaker 2: to watch it. So Paulie says he'll watch all four quarters. Oh,
Speaker 2: coming up tonight. Yes, yeah, that's the commitment here. Yes, Marvin,
Speaker 2: the Chargers.
Speaker 6: Moved to Los Angeles has given him even more of
Speaker 6: a hall pass because they're fifth or six in the
Speaker 6: pecking orders. Yeah, so it's not a really big deal, Like, okay,
Speaker 6: that's all right.
Speaker 4: We're more worried.
Speaker 6: About USC and the Lakers and the Clippers, the Dodgers,
Speaker 6: you know, the soccer team, and the pickleball team.
Speaker 3: Hmm, pickleball team, pickleball league you mean.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, pickleball, Tom Brady, they have to PICKLEBA
Speaker 2: eight seven seven three DP show operator Tyler standing by
Speaker 2: Seaton Poll question from the first hour, we talked a
Speaker 2: lot about the Bucks and the Pacers. Jannis goes for
Speaker 2: sixty four Pacers take the game ball. They want to
Speaker 2: give it to a rookie who scored his first points.
Speaker 2: Yannis thought that, you know, they were being vindictive and
Speaker 2: just taking the basketball away from him when he set
Speaker 2: the franchise record of sixty four points. So the poll
Speaker 2: question from our one was who should.
Speaker 7: Get the game ball? Yannis or Oscar?
Speaker 8: Shebwe Right now it's still holding out about sixty one
Speaker 8: percent for Yiannis.
Speaker 7: Okay, although that's slightly better in Oscar's feed.
Speaker 3: Not a lot of Oscar sentiment here.
Speaker 8: No, but there are some people that are like, how
Speaker 8: many times can Yanis break the scoring record? How many
Speaker 8: times can Oscar get his first point?
Speaker 5: Okay?
Speaker 2: You know, okay, But I'm trying to figure out though,
Speaker 2: is this a tradition in the NBA just with the Pacers,
Speaker 2: just with Rick Carlisle and the Pacers when rookies scored.
Speaker 2: Nick Wright was with us last down and he said,
Speaker 2: what if you have two rookies in the same game
Speaker 2: scoring their you know, first points, then what do you do?
Speaker 2: Although they have two basketballs, two game basketballs and then
Speaker 2: Jannas said the ball that he got was not the
Speaker 2: correct ball. Here's gianness. After the game, there's a question
Speaker 2: from a reporter.
Speaker 3: First, you thought they had the game ball. That's why
Speaker 3: you ran after them.
Speaker 9: And the time I knew they had the game, I don't.
Speaker 9: I don't think I have they had the game. I
Speaker 9: knew they had the ball. First of all, you cannot.
Speaker 9: I don't know how it works, but I assume I cannot.
Speaker 9: Just working in any I didn't end up playing. Just
Speaker 9: take the ball, like Dame was fifth of all time.
Speaker 9: I scored sixty another day, Like the ball that though
Speaker 9: they gave us, I offered it to Dame. Like I
Speaker 9: scored sixty, he scored multiple times, sixty, scored seventy and
Speaker 9: d you know he's had the ball.
Speaker 2: Okay, Well, Rick Carlile, the head coach of the Pacers.
Speaker 2: Now keep in mind, you go back to the Ncason
Speaker 2: Tournament when the Pacers celebrated, when you had Tyreez Haliburt
Speaker 2: and doing Dame time to Dame Lillard, and you knew
Speaker 2: that the next time they met it was going to
Speaker 2: be chippy, and it was last night. But here is
Speaker 2: Rick Carlyle giving his side of the story.
Speaker 10: What happened at the after the game was unfortunate. There's
Speaker 10: a misunderstanding about the game ball. It was Ostro Seway's
Speaker 10: first NBA official NBA point, so we always get the
Speaker 10: game ball. We were not thinking about Gianni's franchise record,
Speaker 10: so we grabbed the ball, and a couple of minutes later,
Speaker 10: several of their players ended up in our hallway. I
Speaker 10: don't think any punches were landed, but my general manager
Speaker 10: got elbowed in the ribs by one of their players.
Speaker 10: Unfortunate situation. We don't need the official game ball. There's
Speaker 10: two game balls there, you know, we could have taken
Speaker 10: the other one, but it didn't need to escalate to.
Speaker 3: That, Alrighty.
Speaker 2: I was shocked at how much it meant to Jannis
Speaker 2: in this situation that, okay, it's a game ball. You
Speaker 2: go to the locker room, you tell you know an
Speaker 2: assistant coach or you know equipment guy, Hey, would you
Speaker 2: go ask them for the basketball and then you might
Speaker 2: find out what the story was. Maybe you're still upset
Speaker 2: about it, but I was surprised that it meant that
Speaker 2: much and you're actually going to chase down something like
Speaker 2: what are you gonna do when you go into the
Speaker 2: locker room, you're actually gonna fight. I mean they're going
Speaker 2: to if you go into their locker room like this.
Speaker 2: It was crazy unfolding. I go no, no, no, no, no,
Speaker 2: no no, and then he's running down the hall and
Speaker 2: then all of a sudden, the paces like, hey, you
Speaker 2: want the ball, come get it.
Speaker 3: You're not getting it. They meet.
Speaker 2: The next time will be New Year's Day, Marvin correct,
Speaker 2: and then two days later so it's Indiana, then Milwaukee,
Speaker 2: home and home.
Speaker 4: Yes, I like it.
Speaker 3: I don't like it, yes, Marv oh soo.
Speaker 6: In the previous clip that I played with, Gianni's Dame
Speaker 6: Lillard is now fifth all time in three pointers made
Speaker 6: and he scored that.
Speaker 4: He broke that record last night.
Speaker 6: So that's what Jiannis was talking about when he was like,
Speaker 6: Dame was fifth all time, He's fifth all time in
Speaker 6: career three pointers made.
Speaker 3: Okay, does he get the basketball?
Speaker 6: Well that's what Jiannis was referring to, like, all right,
Speaker 6: well I did this and Dame did this, but you
Speaker 6: know this guy scores.
Speaker 2: Okay, But I would ask Giannis, then who gets the ball?
Speaker 2: Dame is fifth all time or you had sixty four.
Speaker 4: It's a good question, okay.
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm just curious here, unless he would say
Speaker 2: whether it's two game balls and give one to Dame
Speaker 2: and I'll take one, Yes, Tom, I'd have to check back.
Speaker 11: But I thought I heard something driving in this money
Speaker 11: where he said I was looking for the ball to
Speaker 11: give it to Dame, that he actually wanted it to
Speaker 11: at least have that gesture, and then Dame can decide
Speaker 11: whether he'd keep it or say no, no, no, you
Speaker 11: have it and Nick I have a friendly battle over
Speaker 11: the ball.
Speaker 4: I didn't.
Speaker 3: I don't know if it mattered to Dame Lillard. I
Speaker 3: mean your fifth all time, Okay.
Speaker 5: Name's had seventy before.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Okay.
Speaker 2: By the way, Victor won Bayama had a nice night
Speaker 2: against Lakers, thirty thirteen and six blocks. And I'm curious
Speaker 2: how many rookies have posted something like that. In the
Speaker 2: last forty years, seven rookies have posted a thirty ten
Speaker 2: and five block game. Three of them have been with
Speaker 2: the San Antonio Spurs. So when Byama, Tim Duncan, and
Speaker 2: David Robinson, David did it seven times in his rookie season.
Speaker 2: The other four players you're gonna know three of the four.
Speaker 2: The other one did it in two thousand. This is
Speaker 2: rookies who had at least thirty points, ten rebounds, in
Speaker 2: at least five blocks in a game. Yes, one of
Speaker 2: my favorite players of all time.
Speaker 5: Hakeem Olajan.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 5: I'll also throw on David Robinson.
Speaker 2: He's already in there. Oh yeah, with Tim Duncan. David Robinson,
Speaker 2: Victor won by him. Chris Webber here's the one. He
Speaker 2: spells his first name differently. Last name, pretty common first name.
Speaker 2: In fact, another player in the NBA UH has the
Speaker 2: same name, just a different spelling on his first name.
Speaker 2: Former player.
Speaker 3: Mm hmm Joe Johnson, Drew Holliday, Mark Jackson, m A
Speaker 3: R C.
Speaker 5: Here comes that?
Speaker 4: What stat of the day?
Speaker 3: Mark Jackson? Geez, miss Jackson.
Speaker 4: If you're nest, you could have given me a hard That's.
Speaker 2: Why he was going to say, I don't even know
Speaker 2: who Mark did it for. Do you remember who Mark
Speaker 2: Jackson with the Sea was playing for.
Speaker 4: I remember he played for the Warriors. I don't know
Speaker 4: if he did it.
Speaker 3: That's what I thought was that as a Warrior.
Speaker 4: Right Mark, I thought he was just a locker room guy.
Speaker 3: Mark, Mark Jackson.
Speaker 5: Yeah, pull well, we were looking to find out if
Speaker 5: it's common thing in pro basketball that a rookie with
Speaker 5: their first points gets the game ball. Do you remember
Speaker 5: Sam Decker played at Wisconsin. Yeah, he played maybe seven years.
Speaker 5: In the NBA Friend of the show, he was listening,
Speaker 5: he said, yes, it's common knowledge and commonplace for a
Speaker 5: rookie to get a game ball in the game where
Speaker 5: they scored their first point. And he said it was
Speaker 5: happened when he was doing it.
Speaker 3: Okay, everybody knows that.
Speaker 5: Come on, if Sam Decker's telling us we gets.
Speaker 3: Gone true, I didn't. I'd never heard that.
Speaker 8: I'm just say, this is your chance to be like,
Speaker 8: everybody knows that that happens, so obviously it's.
Speaker 3: Of course, yes it is.
Speaker 2: Alan in Florida leads us off. Hey, Alan, what's on
Speaker 2: your mind today?
Speaker 12: Hey?
Speaker 13: Then hey, I'll do it this long.
Speaker 4: Great.
Speaker 13: First of all, there's like forty different basketballs on the
Speaker 13: court there. They could have grabbed any ball and just
Speaker 13: hand them to him a sign and who really cares?
Speaker 3: No, No, No, you want game used. I get it.
Speaker 3: You want game used in a situation like that. It's
Speaker 3: like when you get your first hit.
Speaker 2: You want the ball that you actually got your first
Speaker 2: hit on I understand all of that. I don't understand
Speaker 2: why Yiannis was acting the way he was.
Speaker 13: And another thing, I want to thank Nick White for
Speaker 13: admitting that Kansas City actually had a penalty in that game,
Speaker 13: because I'm a Bill's Mafia fan and I love you
Speaker 13: all guys, have a great show.
Speaker 2: Thank you Alan, thank you Allan. Yeah, Nick Wright did
Speaker 2: admit that it's a penalty kind.
Speaker 8: Of he admitted it with a yeah, but yeah, there's
Speaker 8: always a yeah, but we didn't really admit with his.
Speaker 3: With his chiefs there.
Speaker 7: It's like he said, technically it's a penalty.
Speaker 2: Yeah, It's like, why call it in that moment?
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 2: They didn't call it any other time with Cadarius Tony,
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 8: Nor in the twenty five seven, eight hundred and fifty nine,
Speaker 8: two hundred and thirty seven plays, Andy Reid has called.
Speaker 3: In Paul and Iowa, Paul in Iowa.
Speaker 14: I got to.
Speaker 15: Follow that number. Huh okay, y well, Dan, it just
Speaker 15: looked like complete immaturity from Yannis last night. I mean,
Speaker 15: let's let's go through his projector progression first. It's personal
Speaker 15: because the Pacers beat him in the tournament, and now
Speaker 15: he demands the game ball. Oh wait, no, that game ball.
Speaker 15: I want the real game ball because Dame hit so
Speaker 15: many three pointers. It's complete immaturity and it looks really bad.
Speaker 15: But a solution is why don't you motivate Yannis and
Speaker 15: say you can keep this game ball and then you
Speaker 15: have to mail it to Oscar when you have a
Speaker 15: higher point total.
Speaker 3: All right, well, thank you, Paul.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: It was strange though, to see it unfold in real time.
Speaker 3: Because I thought, what is he arguing about? I'm like,
Speaker 3: what's he angry about?
Speaker 2: And then all of a sudden you realize it's about
Speaker 2: the basketball. And you know where the Pacers being nefarious?
Speaker 3: Here?
Speaker 2: Were they realizing what they were doing in the moment,
Speaker 2: And I don't know if they did until they did realize,
Speaker 2: and then they're like, no, you're not getting this basketball,
Speaker 2: not now. But if he had gone over there and said, hey,
Speaker 2: is it okay if I have the basketball? Can I
Speaker 2: get the game used basketball and then we'll make sure
Speaker 2: that Oscar gets the other basketball, you probably could have
Speaker 2: settled this that way, I'm guessing, Or somebody could have
Speaker 2: walked over and said, hey, that's a franchise record.
Speaker 3: There's two basketballs. Can we get that please?
Speaker 16: Oh?
Speaker 3: Yeah, here you go, yeah pulling.
Speaker 5: So there's a lot of video on the internet of
Speaker 5: the postgame handshakes in the ball and you see the
Speaker 5: ball go from a Bucks player to a staffer, but
Speaker 5: you can't tell if it's a Buck staffer because he's
Speaker 5: got a dark jacket on. You can't tell it's blue
Speaker 5: or green, or is it a Pacer staffer. And then
Speaker 5: that person starts walking back, and then when they see
Speaker 5: the person walking back, you see Giannis start pointing and pointing,
Speaker 5: and you can't tell what he's upset about it at first,
Speaker 5: and you can't tell who's got the ball, but it's
Speaker 5: leaving the building.
Speaker 2: There was no reason to keep watching. But then you
Speaker 2: want to see how many he's going to get. So
Speaker 2: he got to sixty and I go, all right, call
Speaker 2: off the dogs. Nope, sixty two, sixty four.
Speaker 3: Game ends.
Speaker 2: Now I want to see how the interaction is between
Speaker 2: the two teams. And then all of a sudden, Yannis
Speaker 2: is going off and then running into the locker room
Speaker 2: and I'm thinking, did somebody say something?
Speaker 3: His brother is there as well. It just it's wild.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Mark who's having a better like two weeks than
Speaker 4: the Pacers.
Speaker 6: You go deep into the end season tournament, you have
Speaker 6: this little back and forth skirmish with Greek freaking those guys,
Speaker 6: now they are mussy TV Halliburton.
Speaker 4: They'll hey, they'll fight, they'll take your ball.
Speaker 3: Let's take We go home with it and go home. Yeah, oh, man.
Speaker 4: Can't wait till Jiligo comes up. It hits a free throw?
Speaker 2: No, no, no, yeah, do we stop the game?
Speaker 8: It'd be awesome if somebody was going on to like
Speaker 8: for a record night and you'd be like, hey, get
Speaker 8: the duncans in, get him in, kid, get a foul,
Speaker 8: get to the line.
Speaker 3: To the line, score your first points.
Speaker 7: We're gonna do the ball bit again.
Speaker 3: Yeah you ready. Has anybody ever stopped the game after
Speaker 3: their first two?
Speaker 1: No?
Speaker 3: No, I'm being like, no, you're kidding.
Speaker 2: No.
Speaker 3: At what point do we go?
Speaker 17: Man?
Speaker 3: It's really important.
Speaker 5: Because in baseball there's a bit of a pause. Yes,
Speaker 5: and like the alfie throws it in, it rolls, the
Speaker 5: bat boy runs out, grabs the ball and make sure
Speaker 5: it's in the dugout. There's a bit of a format
Speaker 5: to it in baseball. All Right, what if the Pacers.
Speaker 5: The next time the Bucks are in town, do like
Speaker 5: a tribute video to Gianni's sixty four point night.
Speaker 2: Just real quick, Now they do a tribute to Oscar
Speaker 2: sweep Way breakout game. Yes, we'd like to take a moment,
Speaker 2: ladies and gentlemen, and we'd like to take a moment.
Speaker 2: If you look to the JumboTron, we want to highlight
Speaker 2: oscars great night that he had against the Milwaung game Buggs,
Speaker 2: and just show him hit the free throw. I guess
Speaker 2: Yannis wanted the ball for Dame. I think that's what's
Speaker 2: coming out of this story now, that Yannis wanted the
Speaker 2: ball for day, but Dame didn't seem too bothered by it.
Speaker 2: Dame's cool, Yeah, he's just because it wasn't Dame time
Speaker 2: a boss.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Dame is a boss. That's why that good stuff.
Speaker 4: You know that.
Speaker 2: Sometimes this job can be really difficult. Sometimes it's really
Speaker 2: easy when you come in and you go, all right,
Speaker 2: Draymond suspended and definitely good. We can talk about, Oh,
Speaker 2: Greek freak went after some people he wanted to basketball. Okay,
Speaker 2: football game coming up tonight. All right, we got some
Speaker 2: things to talk about here. Sometimes it's just rolled out
Speaker 2: right in front of you. Sometimes you got to go
Speaker 2: find it. It's like Yannis trying to get that basketball.
Speaker 2: Sometimes this job is just like that. And I've acted
Speaker 2: that way with the dan Netes, yelling and screaming and
Speaker 2: we're you know. Other times it's like it just comes
Speaker 2: right right to me. Who gets the game ball today? No,
Speaker 2: it's too early. It's too early to tell right now,
Speaker 2: take it. No, No, with us? Who gets the game
Speaker 2: ball here? That's the right answer, because you know what,
Speaker 2: we're going to do it better the next time.
Speaker 3: And no, I in team, no iron team. There's no
Speaker 3: eye in Danettes.
Speaker 5: Just letting you know, checking I want to make sure.
Speaker 2: But there is in Giannics and uh Oscar sweet Way,
Speaker 2: there's an eye in that as well.
Speaker 3: All right, let me take a break.
Speaker 2: We're going to check in with the New England Patriots
Speaker 2: because it went from here's a story to wait a minute,
Speaker 2: nobody's touching this story. Bill Belichick and the Patriots will
Speaker 2: divorce at the end of the year. I thought, where
Speaker 2: did the story go? And uh you start. You know,
Speaker 2: our good buddy Tom Kerrn had the report. We've tried
Speaker 2: to get him on, but he's laying loone with this.
Speaker 2: I don't know what happened, feels like it feels like
Speaker 2: somebody you know, got their you know what whapped.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 5: I think we're a better chance than Belichick on this week.
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Speaker 2: I don't know why I got caught up with rookies
Speaker 2: who have had at least thirty ten and five blocks
Speaker 2: in a game. Victor Wan Bayama did that last night.
Speaker 2: And one of the players who did it was Mark Jackson,
Speaker 2: M A R C. And he did it with the
Speaker 2: Minnesota Timberwolves. Is where he did that? He also played
Speaker 2: for the Golden State Warriors. Eric Dan Pierre and the
Speaker 2: Donald Foyle We were there and.
Speaker 5: Very random of for the Warriors.
Speaker 3: Did he did? He did he play against the Warriors?
Speaker 3: Is that what it was?
Speaker 2: But he also played for the Warriors as well. So
Speaker 2: he played for the Warriors in a game against the
Speaker 2: Minnesota Timberwolves.
Speaker 3: Is do I have it right there?
Speaker 6: He played as a member of the Warriors, and he
Speaker 6: did it against the Minnesota Timbers.
Speaker 4: So Mark Jackson is better than Kemgarnett.
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Speaker 2: this situation with Bill Belichick and the Patriots? With this
Speaker 2: report that Tom Curran had this week.
Speaker 19: Dan, it's a good question, you know, my my personal feeling,
Speaker 19: and look, this is this is a story that is
Speaker 19: going to be held very close to the vest, you know,
Speaker 19: between Robert Bill and Jonathan. Nothing definitive that I've heard
Speaker 19: from inside or outside the building points one way or
Speaker 19: the other. I certainly have my feelings on this, and
Speaker 19: I don't necessarily think it's the case that that the
Speaker 19: Colts game was sort of the final straw. I mean,
Speaker 19: this has been going on for a couple of years,
Speaker 19: and you got to think even with the Colts loss,
Speaker 19: and it would be natural for the Crafts to sit
Speaker 19: and think about this decision during the bye week after
Speaker 19: that game, possibly meet with Bill. Still, they were two
Speaker 19: and eight at the time. Stranger things have happened in
Speaker 19: football where they the Patriots could have won out at
Speaker 19: nine and eight. You know, But I do think that
Speaker 19: die was cast at that point. I think it had
Speaker 19: been cast for a while. So I think that I
Speaker 19: think that both sides have an idea on what's going
Speaker 19: to happen. It's likely that that they will part ways
Speaker 19: after the decision, I just after the season. I just
Speaker 19: have a hard time telling you one way or the other,
Speaker 19: how definitive it is.
Speaker 2: And I was just wondering if it's in the personality
Speaker 2: of Robert Kraft. Two have had a meeting with Bill
Speaker 2: Belichick with this many games to go, and then he
Speaker 2: would give him a heads up like, Hey, Bill, this
Speaker 2: is what this is what we're going to do at
Speaker 2: season end.
Speaker 3: I just I don't know.
Speaker 2: Their relationship, but that would surprise me if he's saying hey,
Speaker 2: instead of saying, let's talk about when the season's over
Speaker 2: with and then you know, we can decide how we
Speaker 2: want to play this.
Speaker 19: That's normally their m O dan is that they will
Speaker 19: get to the end of the season and they will
Speaker 19: come together. And you know, there's a few different factors
Speaker 19: at play here. Number One, people had I think people
Speaker 19: underestimate how much last season ticked off the Crafts. They
Speaker 19: they they were mad about what happened. They thought, Okay,
Speaker 19: we dealt with the We had a reset year with
Speaker 19: Cam Newton. Tom Brady went and won a Super Bowl
Speaker 19: with the Buccaneers. That really hurt, but it looked like
Speaker 19: things were going up for the franchise. Drafted Mac Jones
Speaker 19: in the first round. They signed, they set a record
Speaker 19: in terms of the money they spent in free agency.
Speaker 19: That year, they went ten, and they went to the playoffs.
Speaker 19: Things were looking up, and then Bill made his decision
Speaker 19: with Matt Patricia and Joe Judge. And the reaction from
Speaker 19: the Crafts was, this doesn't make a lot of sense
Speaker 19: to us, Bill, but you've you've earned the right to
Speaker 19: make this decision. And when that that decision clearly was
Speaker 19: a mistake. They were by the end of the season.
Speaker 19: They were furious and they needed to hear the right
Speaker 19: things from Bill at the end of last season or
Speaker 19: else it might have ended there. From what I understand,
Speaker 19: Bill said the right things. They were like, okay, he
Speaker 19: said a new course. He he admitted that he underestimated
Speaker 19: what the offense needed, how much Josh McDaniels had done
Speaker 19: for him, but he was he was willing to be
Speaker 19: open to corrections with Billy O'Brien. And so when they
Speaker 19: went into twenty twenty three, if you look at all
Speaker 19: the Tea leaves in terms of they have so many
Speaker 19: top tier free agents that have not been extended. To me,
Speaker 19: it looked like okay. The craft said to Bill, you
Speaker 19: get your you got your Mulligan. Okay, but if it
Speaker 19: doesn't work this season, you've got a chance to put
Speaker 19: it on its right tracks. If it doesn't work this season,
Speaker 19: we all know where this is going. Leave twenty twenty
Speaker 19: four to somebody else. We'll make that decision when we
Speaker 19: get there.
Speaker 3: How attractive is this job, Well, it's.
Speaker 4: A good question.
Speaker 19: I mean in terms of the Crafts, the franchise, the stability,
Speaker 19: you know, you got to look at it. I mean,
Speaker 19: you know, they've hired two coaches in their ownership tenure.
Speaker 19: Pete Carroll, who, if I recall correctly, lasted about three
Speaker 19: years and you know, didn't do all that bad a job,
Speaker 19: but the Crafts decided they needed more and they brought
Speaker 19: Bill in. And Robert was just on NFL Game Day
Speaker 19: talking about stability. I mean, they do do a good
Speaker 19: job of that. They hire people, really smart people and
Speaker 19: let them go do their job. So in terms of
Speaker 19: the stability of ownership, what they're going to give you
Speaker 19: to do your job, I think it's an extremely attractive job.
Speaker 19: Now are you getting into the quarterback and the roster
Speaker 19: and things like that. You know, that's nice, but that's
Speaker 19: not how a lot of these guys think in terms
Speaker 19: of jobs. There first of all, there's one of there's
Speaker 19: only you know, one of thirty two jobs in the world,
Speaker 19: and then then you look at ownership and it doesn't
Speaker 19: get much better than the Patriots ownership.
Speaker 2: How attractive will Bill Belichick be on the open market?
Speaker 5: That is a good question.
Speaker 19: I think that I think he'll have some appeal to
Speaker 19: some franchises in terms of, you know, face value, bringing
Speaker 19: a sort of a credibility to a franchise. Let's say,
Speaker 19: like the Commanders, that is, you know, just nobody knows
Speaker 19: what their brand is. Bill is is a brand. I
Speaker 19: think the national brand is better than the local brand
Speaker 19: in New England. At this point, I would be very
Speaker 19: interested to know what he is open to in terms
Speaker 19: of structure. I mean me personally from covering him up
Speaker 19: close and watching his team up close. I would not
Speaker 19: be interested in giving him total control over in an organization,
Speaker 19: the coach, the game planner. Yes, I'm interested in that.
Speaker 19: Personnel control, salary cap control, how he constructs the roster,
Speaker 19: I'm not interested in.
Speaker 2: That should be interesting the next few weeks, and you've
Speaker 2: got Kansas City with the Patriots coming up.
Speaker 3: Greg. We appreciate your time as always, Thank you anytime.
Speaker 4: Guys.
Speaker 2: It's Greg Bdard, founder and editorial director of Boston Sports
Speaker 2: Journal dot com. He's covered the Patriots used to be
Speaker 2: with Sports Illustrated and The Boston Globe.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: No, by the way, they got the Kansas City Chiefs
Speaker 2: coming to town coming off a couple of bad, bad
Speaker 2: law back to back losses here Auto and Los Angeles. Hey, Auto,
Speaker 2: what's on your mind today?
Speaker 14: Hiding Dan, Good morning to everybody. Just had a bone
Speaker 14: to pick with you, and then a couple of comments
Speaker 14: to Marvin. I called you a couple of weeks ago
Speaker 14: because turn of the Chargers and listening to your rent
Speaker 14: today is exactly what I was telling you a few
Speaker 14: weeks ago. And then you hit me with the Jerry
Speaker 14: Searmfeld But they just beat the Jets, Auto, and I'm like, yeah,
Speaker 14: but there's still not a good team. And listening to
Speaker 14: what you're saying today, it's like, yeah, there's just the
Speaker 14: Chargers every year.
Speaker 2: Well, and I don't know if I would acknowledge the
Speaker 2: Chargers being good because they beat the Jets. I was
Speaker 2: probably joking about that, Auto, Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah, that
Speaker 2: doesn't mean you're supposed to beat the Jets. You're the
Speaker 2: Chargers yeah, okay.
Speaker 3: Okay, all right, what do you have?
Speaker 14: And from Marvin, he said that in LA, no one
Speaker 14: cares about the Chargers, that the pick a Ball League
Speaker 14: is more important than Chargers. It's funny. He said that
Speaker 14: the next home game is a Saturday, December twenty third game,
Speaker 14: just the Bills and they're given out pickleball paddle.
Speaker 1: Thank you Auto.
Speaker 2: Could you imagine other fan bases if they gave out
Speaker 2: pickleball paddles, like Philadelphia or the Jets, Like, what could
Speaker 2: possibly happen?
Speaker 4: Yes, that's why things like that day or I think
Speaker 4: of the past.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they used to throw bats onto the field car
Speaker 2: battery day.
Speaker 3: They don't do that anymore, you know, Yes, Pully.
Speaker 5: I just confirmed pick a Ball Day at the Chargers
Speaker 5: game as journalists, and I also found that you could
Speaker 5: buy NFL logoed pickleball paddles set the two with all
Speaker 5: thirty two teams just in case. Yeah, for the shopping.
Speaker 3: You know, that's great. Last minute.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Jeremy and Jeremy and Texas. Hi Jeremy, Hey, guys,
Speaker 2: that was going this morning.
Speaker 20: Man, So question is this possible? So Prescott's in the
Speaker 20: in the running for the MVP. He's kind of in
Speaker 20: that in that category and that talk talk about uh,
Speaker 20: Brandon Aubrey just broke a record for NFL's most rookie
Speaker 20: botfield goals make excutively. Could he be Rookie of the
Speaker 20: Year and with their on Bland doing all the pick sixes?
Speaker 20: Could he be Defensive Player of the Year. Could you
Speaker 20: have three awards going to the Dallas Cowboys.
Speaker 2: Well, you won't get Bland as the defensive Player of
Speaker 2: the Year. It'll be Michael Parsons. Right now, he is
Speaker 2: your overwhelming favorite. Bland has been great with pick sixes,
Speaker 2: but Michael Parsons I believe is the leading candidate right now.
Speaker 3: And Dak for the m v P. Yeah, pull Rookie the.
Speaker 5: Year right now. There's a couple.
Speaker 17: C J.
Speaker 5: Stroud's way up there, Pooka Nakoula, the Rams, Jamar Gibbs,
Speaker 5: be Shawn Robinson. Those are the top guys. Devan e Chan,
Speaker 5: you know, there's a lot of people, but a kicker.
Speaker 5: You know, if you look at what how much he's
Speaker 5: over achieved for the Cowboys this year. He's changed what
Speaker 5: they can do in games.
Speaker 2: What if he's perfect for the regular season? Perfect And
Speaker 2: this has been a real problem trying to find a
Speaker 2: consistent kicker in Dallas for a while. And now you
Speaker 2: get a rookie who played soccer in college and he
Speaker 2: is thirty for thirty and he can kick it from sixty.
Speaker 2: In fact, he said when he was with us earlier
Speaker 2: this week that he could kick it seventy two yards.
Speaker 2: But this is what you're going to need in the postseason.
Speaker 2: Going to be a game that comes down to is
Speaker 2: our kicker going to make it or is their kicker
Speaker 2: going to make it?
Speaker 3: CJ.
Speaker 2: Stroud I think is the overwhelming favorite to be the
Speaker 2: Rookie of the year. Michael in Fort Wayne, Hey Michael,
Speaker 2: what's on your mind today?
Speaker 12: Hey Dan, thanks for taking my call this morning. Just
Speaker 12: one quick comment regarding the game ball brew haha. Both
Speaker 12: sides of the story remind me of parents who go
Speaker 12: overboard collecting stuff their first kid. They just collect everything first,
Speaker 12: painting first, haircut, hair first, burp cloth, and then by
Speaker 12: the time they have their third kid, they realized they
Speaker 12: actually don't want all that crap.
Speaker 2: All right, A burp cloth, burp cloth. I don't think
Speaker 2: we saved that. I save a lot of things. I
Speaker 2: don't think I saved a I did save my kid's artwork,
Speaker 2: all of it, framed it. Yeah, but that's just because
Speaker 2: I you know, I'm I'm now I order your collector.
Speaker 3: I have a collector and character.
Speaker 5: Yes, yes, you go up and down the hallways though
Speaker 5: and critique their art style like that really was not
Speaker 5: a president.
Speaker 8: Vision is good, the execution is is body.
Speaker 2: Uh Johnny and Iowa, Hi Johnny? What's on your mind?
Speaker 21: Ali?
Speaker 16: First time long time? Five ten swollen abs up to
Speaker 16: about three hundred pound. I was calling about Crapenberg.
Speaker 22: State volleyball slogan. Okay, soh They usually say bump set spike,
Speaker 22: Let's do dump set wipe.
Speaker 2: Nailed it, Thank you, Johnny, nailed it, Thank you, Thank you.
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Speaker 3: dot com.
Speaker 2: Uh more on the Pacers and the Bucks game coming
Speaker 2: out after this.
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Speaker 2: You know how much I talk about peak? Uh, the
Speaker 2: game of careful Uh? So a pickleball?
Speaker 3: Dammit? And Uh.
Speaker 2: I got a gift from full Sale University where I
Speaker 2: have my broadcasting school and they they sent me a
Speaker 2: full sale university pickleball set. We're ready to go if
Speaker 2: anybody wants to play.
Speaker 5: But uh, are they called paddles or rackets?
Speaker 2: These are pandels, these are panels. And then I got
Speaker 2: h two sets of balls here, and I got a
Speaker 2: pair of panels there.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 5: With pickleball, is it always two on two or can
Speaker 5: it be a one on one?
Speaker 2: I'm going to us I have no idea about the
Speaker 2: only time I played against the two ladies from Greenwich, Connecticut.
Speaker 3: It was my wife and I against those two.
Speaker 5: Every time I see it on TV, which is often, uh,
Speaker 5: it's always two on two. I no singles.
Speaker 3: I'm guessing there could be. I don't know. I haven't played.
Speaker 3: I've only played once.
Speaker 7: It feels like it's two on two.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean it's it's it's meant to be.
Speaker 7: I mean it's too fast paced, so one person couldn't
Speaker 7: possibly handle that.
Speaker 3: Ma Jackson, well, yes.
Speaker 5: According to the USA pick a Ball, which I have
Speaker 5: on my screen at all times, pick a ball is
Speaker 5: played either as doubles two players per team or singles.
Speaker 5: Doubles is most common, same playing area in size for
Speaker 5: singles and doubles.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you could bring your wife out and have a
Speaker 2: nice little evening and play, or an afternoon as well.
Speaker 2: You guys should try it though, just so you can understand.
Speaker 4: The magnitude of it.
Speaker 3: You should just try it, you know.
Speaker 2: It's sort of like badminton just played when it bounces
Speaker 2: off the ground.
Speaker 8: Let's a quick shout out to tennis, all right, Tennis
Speaker 8: is a great game. It's a lot of fun to play.
Speaker 8: Just throwing that out there.
Speaker 3: Yeah, this is really nothing like tennis though.
Speaker 8: Yeah, because you tennis you have to move. Yeah, Tennis
Speaker 8: you have you have to run around. Pickleball you stand
Speaker 8: in bloo boo.
Speaker 3: It's like atari, you know, where you're just a.
Speaker 4: Blue or fist twitch.
Speaker 5: Yes, a couple of rules I didn't know. The server's
Speaker 5: arm and pickleball must be moving at an upward arc
Speaker 5: when the ball is struck. Paddle contact with the ball
Speaker 5: must not be made above the so it's like the
Speaker 5: opposite of Greco Roman wrestling.
Speaker 8: So you have to hit it going up, but it
Speaker 8: can be above your waist no when you serve, because
Speaker 8: if it was going like straightforward or down, it would
Speaker 8: be too hard.
Speaker 7: So you have to go up so it's easier up.
Speaker 3: To get it over the net. And then when you're hitting,
Speaker 3: I guess you're not allowed to bring it above your hip.
Speaker 7: It has to be below your hip.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and look, my wife and I were called out
Speaker 2: on this by the two ladies from Greenwich, Connecticut, and uh,
Speaker 2: we didn't know the rules, but we uh we eventually
Speaker 2: laid down the wall, is what we did.
Speaker 4: Yes, Martha, did you know those ladies before you played them?
Speaker 3: I did not.
Speaker 6: How did this evencome about? It like, oh, you two
Speaker 6: over there, you you guys want to get a little
Speaker 6: two on two.
Speaker 5: Going blind it?
Speaker 2: Well, no, it was a class to teach you about pickleball,
Speaker 2: and it just happened that we paired off with these
Speaker 2: two women who had played a lot before, and you know,
Speaker 2: we didn't understand any of the rules, and then they
Speaker 2: were kind of mocking us a little bit that we
Speaker 2: you know, we kept screwing up.
Speaker 3: We didn't understand what you're allowed to do not allowed
Speaker 3: to do.
Speaker 5: That's called poking the pickle and pickleball for next.
Speaker 2: And then you know there's a you can be in
Speaker 2: the kitchen, like if you're in the kitchen, like there's
Speaker 2: all this stuff, and then we played, and then I
Speaker 2: took matters into my own hands and I sent them
Speaker 2: home right terrible? Yeah, No, they needed to be taught
Speaker 2: a lesson. And I retired and defeated. I took my
Speaker 2: pickle and I went home.
Speaker 4: You took the ball like Oscar.
Speaker 3: Yes, I did.
Speaker 2: I that was my first pickleball win, and I wanted
Speaker 2: to have the pickleball, and I took it home.
Speaker 3: Michael and San Antonio. Hi, Mike, what's on your mind today?
Speaker 21: Hey guys, that's just one of the clarify something about
Speaker 21: this good game show. Yeah, you keep saying watch up
Speaker 21: to the fifteen minutes to fifteen minutes, but if you
Speaker 21: look at the time, that's actually what's remaining in the show.
Speaker 21: You should actually watch up to the first forty five
Speaker 21: minutes and then and that's when the red light Green
Speaker 21: Light is occurring.
Speaker 2: Oh okay, I thought it was sooner than that, But
Speaker 2: watch through red red light green lake.
Speaker 3: Yeson, how about we.
Speaker 7: Go ahead and give it the full hour and then.
Speaker 5: Make a gesmous.
Speaker 7: Okay, it's fine, give it the full episode.
Speaker 3: It's like Ozark.
Speaker 2: I tell people just watch the first fifteen minutes because
Speaker 2: when you watch that it feels like it's the last
Speaker 2: episode of a show like that.
Speaker 3: That's how it would end.
Speaker 2: But that one that that starts quick the Americans another
Speaker 2: one that starts quick too, sneaky.
Speaker 4: Great show.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, wonderful.
Speaker 2: Gabe in Atlanta, I gave What's on your Mind today?
Speaker 17: Hey, guys, thanks for taking my call. I just wanted
Speaker 17: to make a quick comment about the Draymond Green situation.
Speaker 17: You know, they're preaching that he needs to get emotional
Speaker 17: and mental health or just spinning him in definitely.
Speaker 16: You know.
Speaker 17: My thought on it is, I think everybody in basketball.
Speaker 13: Needs to get tougher.
Speaker 17: You you don't You don't see them pulling Billy and
Speaker 17: Beer off the court and putting him and for emotional
Speaker 17: health and things like that. And let's not forget about
Speaker 17: the game called hockey. They got a guy called the
Speaker 17: enforcer that beats the ever living crapenberg stay out of somebody,
Speaker 17: that's his job. They're not yanking him off the ice.
Speaker 17: I think everybody needs to get a little bit tougher
Speaker 17: out there and go out there a ball and do
Speaker 17: what they need to do.
Speaker 2: So thank you, kay. It feels like they're trying to
Speaker 2: create excuses for Draymond. Does he need help now? But
Speaker 2: he didn't need help before. Why apologize if it was
Speaker 2: an accident? I mean, come on, yes, Marmin.
Speaker 6: Hold On, the caller just just called in. He was like,
Speaker 6: we just need to play ball. Draymond's not playing ball.
Speaker 6: He's doing everything except playing ball. We love it when
Speaker 6: Draymond just plays ball. They win championships. When he just
Speaker 6: plays ball, he's doing everything else. It's talking about Bill Lambier.
Speaker 6: Bill Lambier probably is a Hall of Famer, if not
Speaker 6: for all of the antics.
Speaker 2: Oh, I don't know if that keeps him out of
Speaker 2: the Hall of Fame. I mean, I think Bill's Bill
Speaker 2: is a really good player for a really good team.
Speaker 2: But I don't think he was a Hall of Famer.
Speaker 4: I'm sorry. Yeah, I meant if they had won three straight.
Speaker 2: And he wasn't a great college player as well, So
Speaker 2: when you go into the basketball Hall of Fame, I'd
Speaker 2: be factoring in that as well.
Speaker 3: And Bill wasn't a great college player.
Speaker 6: Yes, well, I think he's known more so for the
Speaker 6: Chiefs shots than how good of a player that he was.
Speaker 23: Let me say that, Yes, I agree, absolutely, Yes, do
Speaker 23: we sometimes I know we romanticize the past a little bit,
Speaker 23: But do we really want uh, like Trey.
Speaker 8: Young getting clotheslined when he goes up to the hoop
Speaker 8: right now for a bucket?
Speaker 3: Is that?
Speaker 8: Is that really what we want to go back to
Speaker 8: the good old days of dudes getting tackled before they
Speaker 8: put up a shot?
Speaker 3: Is that what we're saying? No, that wasn't good basketball
Speaker 3: right right.
Speaker 8: We're looking back at that like, yeah, so it used
Speaker 8: to be, yeah, and it changed for the better.
Speaker 7: It was stupid.
Speaker 2: We allowed a team to beat up the greatest player
Speaker 2: of all time, Michael Jordan, and we're like, yeah, that's
Speaker 2: the way back bskeotball is meant to be played.
Speaker 3: No, what's on final hour coming up?