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Speaker 1: Welcome back, ladies and gentlemen to the latest edition of

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Speaker 1: Paul Pierce, Danny Green, got a dope show for you, guys.

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Speaker 1: Let's get right into it. Jonathan Kaminga drama, Drama, drama.

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Speaker 1: Kamena formally requested a trade.

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Speaker 2: From the Golden State Warriors on Thursday.

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Speaker 1: The fifty and forward signed a two year deal worth

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Speaker 1: forty six point eight million, has a team option for

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Speaker 1: next summer for the second first day and yeah literally

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Speaker 1: day one, January fifteenth is the first day according to

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Speaker 1: his contract that he could be dealt again the team.

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Speaker 1: The team has an option to pick it up next summer.

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Speaker 1: He has dmp'd in the last thirteen games.

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Speaker 3: That's crazy.

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Speaker 2: The next game will make it fourteen straight games.

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Speaker 1: Golden State says they they're prioritizing expiring contracts in exchange

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Speaker 1: for KAMINGA, said a few sources, the organization has rejected

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Speaker 1: proposals involved involving long term commitments unless the return represents

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Speaker 1: undeniable positive value. The NBA trade deadline is on February fifth.

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Speaker 1: Sham Sharani of ESPN says the Kings and MAVs are

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Speaker 1: trying to work something out. I just gotta say again,

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Speaker 1: but the move of requesting a trade when you've been

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Speaker 1: on the block for like two and a half years

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Speaker 1: is hilarious.

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Speaker 3: He thinks he will expedite the process or like speed up.

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Speaker 2: The I don't know what they think.

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Speaker 1: I don't know, but Danny, do you think they get

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Speaker 1: a deal done before the deadline?

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Speaker 3: I hope for his sake, I think they should. And

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Speaker 3: when they talk about what they're prioritizing, like getting expiring contracts,

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Speaker 3: my first thought came to mind was like go back,

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Speaker 3: like go through Miami, Like go go back and get

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Speaker 3: Injow Wiggins, go get Norman Powell. You know what I'm saying, Like,

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Speaker 3: I'm sure Miami would like a Johnathan kaminga and they

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Speaker 3: can either keep them or use them for John John

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Speaker 3: Morant type of trade. You know what I'm saying, Like,

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Speaker 3: I don't know, but yeah, I hope they get this

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Speaker 3: deal done for him because he's been sitting there for

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Speaker 3: and he's very talented. You know, there's some things out

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Speaker 3: there that he might not have the highest IQ, he

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Speaker 3: might not be a system type player, but he has

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Speaker 3: a talent that you can't teach, you know what I'm saying, Like,

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Speaker 3: he has unbelievable potential, So he should be a guy

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Speaker 3: that should have an opportunity to at least play somewhere.

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Speaker 1: What do you think it is one of a team

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Speaker 1: and a young guy just don't click in this way,

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Speaker 1: Like what are the factors that are going in?

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Speaker 2: Because everybody agrees that the guy.

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Speaker 1: Has talent, but it's just straight up just hasn't worked

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Speaker 1: out well.

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Speaker 4: You know, I've been in the game of basketball a

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Speaker 4: long time and I've seen a lot of kids with talent,

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Speaker 4: and you know, talent can get you so far. But

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Speaker 4: if you can't pick up on the plays or understand

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Speaker 4: what coaching is or practice habits, I haven't seen guys

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Speaker 4: come and go. And because on the outside looking in,

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Speaker 4: like Danny said, he's unbelievably talent, So like, why isn't

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Speaker 4: he playing? It has to be something in between the

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Speaker 4: ears right here that's not clicking.

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Speaker 3: For him, especially in today's game.

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Speaker 4: In today's game, and it's not like and this is

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Speaker 4: the crazy thing about it for me, I come from

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Speaker 4: an era to where you actually ran plays and you

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Speaker 4: have to know the playbook.

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Speaker 5: They don't even run.

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Speaker 4: Play pretty much, pick and rolling isol every time down.

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Speaker 4: So what is it that he's not picking up? I

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Speaker 4: don't know. If it's the defense. I don't know, if

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Speaker 4: it's a thing between him and coach and the players

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Speaker 4: and it's just you know, there's definitely red flax here

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Speaker 4: for me because I feel like the kid can play. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: But if I'm not on the inside seeing this practice habits,

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Speaker 4: I'm not seeing how he messages with certain players, and

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Speaker 4: obviously he doesn't because think about Golden State and the

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Speaker 4: culture there.

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Speaker 5: That's a great culture.

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Speaker 4: That can bring along some young guys and they've developed

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Speaker 4: some young guys. Why hasn't it worked there? So if

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Speaker 4: it's not working there.

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Speaker 5: And they need young talent to play right now, I

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Speaker 4: Not sure if he gets traded, like, there's like too

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Speaker 4: many red flags.

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Speaker 1: So Marcus Thompson and Sam Amick of the Athletic they

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Speaker 1: put out a long piece about sort of the journey

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Speaker 1: that it took to get here. You know, the Warriors

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Speaker 1: basically they won a championship comingu's first season, so obviously

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Speaker 1: as a rookie, unless you're like not a normal rookie,

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Speaker 1: it's gonna be for you to get meaningful minutes on

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Speaker 1: a team that's about to win a championship.

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Speaker 2: Right, That's just generally how life goes.

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Speaker 1: Most rookies, high draft pick rookies play on bad teams

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Speaker 1: because that's who.

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Speaker 2: Gets the high draft picks.

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Speaker 1: It's the team that went twenty and sixty two the

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Speaker 1: year before, right where Golden State was in a little

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Speaker 2: And then you know, over the years, guys like.

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Speaker 1: Jan Tuscano Anderson and you know this year, Gee Santos

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Speaker 1: and like these are Gary Payton the second. These are

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Speaker 1: the kind of guys that are getting minutes over Jonathan

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Speaker 1: Kaminga because as far as Spurs, I mean, excuse me

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Speaker 1: Kurr is concerned.

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Speaker 2: They know how to play winning basketball.

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Speaker 1: And you know, to your point, Paul, like the sort

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Speaker 1: make smart play, the extra pass, you know, giving it

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Speaker 1: one hundred and ten percent on defense. These are the

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Speaker 1: kind of things that they felt like he hasn't been doing.

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Speaker 1: But to his point, commingus point you know, because the

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Speaker 1: piece I think was pretty balanced. It's like it was

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Speaker 1: hard for him to get some confidence because his minutes

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Speaker 2: Being yanked from him.

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Speaker 1: And maybe you're on a struggling team that yeah, that

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Speaker 1: would not have been the case. I don't know, what

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Speaker 1: do you think about the idea that, like, maybe he

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Speaker 1: needs a little bit more slack in order to fully

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Speaker 3: He's a type of player, like you said, shit have

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Speaker 3: been on a team where he's able to at least

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Speaker 3: be groomed or allowed some freedom for mistakes. Yeah, I

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Speaker 3: don't know if you know Steve Kerr gave him that.

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Speaker 3: I don't know if he's feeling like he needs to

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Speaker 3: earn that and he hasn't earned it yet. He's been

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Speaker 3: given some of it and kind of went the wrong

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Speaker 3: direction with it. But I mean back to what you've

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Speaker 3: been saying, Man, this kid, they're not helping his value

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Speaker 3: at all. Like, if you're trying to move this kid,

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Speaker 3: this is not the way to especially if you're trying

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Speaker 3: to get some good value back in return. The more

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Speaker 3: you dnp him, the more you show show that you

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Speaker 3: don't value him. Why would other teams want to give

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Speaker 3: give up like some good stuff in return? So they're

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Speaker 3: not helping the cause and helping the case. But he's

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Speaker 3: definitely a kid that needs like some freedom, like it

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Speaker 3: needs to be groomed, like you know how LaMelo is

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Speaker 3: like you know what, front office like, you gott let

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Speaker 3: him play, you gotta let him hoop.

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Speaker 4: Well another thing too then, and he has to have

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Speaker 4: the understanding that you're not the star, because the way

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Speaker 4: I watch him play, he plays like he's a star.

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Speaker 4: You have to understand a role because we all were

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Speaker 4: stars in high school and maybe college. But like when

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Speaker 4: you ain't that star no more in the league, you

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Speaker 4: gotta adjust to a role. And that's kind of what

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Speaker 4: I see. He needs to adjust to more of a

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Speaker 3: And to you, that's I'm so happy you said that point,

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Speaker 3: because like Andrew Wiggins type of player, maybe not.

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Speaker 1: Even look Christian Brown got one hundred and twenty five

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Speaker 1: million dollars.

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Speaker 2: Dyson Daniels got a similar deal.

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Speaker 1: This dude got forty eight million with a team option,

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Speaker 1: so basically he got twenty four million guaranteed. Those two

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Speaker 1: guys are not more talented than Jonathan Kaminga. But guess

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Speaker 1: what they've shown teams that they are way more than

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Speaker 1: willing to embrace a role to kill themselves on defense,

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Speaker 1: make open shots when it presents itself.

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Speaker 2: Well, not that.

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Speaker 1: Dyson Daniels is doing it, but whatever, you get what

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Speaker 1: I'm saying, be a killer. Do the little thing Christian

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Speaker 1: Brown playing on it. The Nuggets do have a system.

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Speaker 1: It is movement based. Of course, you're doing it around

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Speaker 2: To being an excellent role player and he got paid.

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Speaker 1: So like this idea that you need to be Kobe

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Speaker 3: I don't think he has I think he could definitely

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Speaker 3: So be able to do that and not play within

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Speaker 3: because he's putting up solid numbers when he was playing,

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Speaker 3: and you could use that. Right now, you've used some

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Speaker 3: young athleticism. Somebody get up and down, especially when you have

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Speaker 3: So do stuff well, do not use this young guy

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Speaker 3: at least for twenty minutes like in the game, and

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Speaker 3: let him just run out there, even use his foules.

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Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: Haven't been very left a lot of stuff for optimism.

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Speaker 1: But at the same token, it's not like Golden State

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Speaker 1: has been lighting the world on fire this year.

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Speaker 2: They're basically a five hundred team.

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Speaker 1: Jimmy Butler was asked how he sees the Warriors team

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Speaker 1: right now, responded, quote, mediocre and mediocre is the worst

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Speaker 1: play to be.

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Speaker 2: Let's watch the clip.

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Speaker 3: The worst place mediocre. I can find some worse places.

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Speaker 2: For you, how about you assessments where y'all are at

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Speaker 2: the halfway point of the season.

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Speaker 5: Mediocre?

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Speaker 2: What needs to change?

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Speaker 6: We need to win more games, lose less games. That

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Speaker 6: that's that's just where we are. I think it's the

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Speaker 6: It's the worst place to be is to be mediocre,

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Speaker 6: because like, yes, it can go either way, but like,

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Speaker 6: nobody wants to be just average.

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Speaker 5: Nobody wants to be average.

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Speaker 3: Nobody wants to be bad either. Like what I'm saying,

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Speaker 3: at least you're better than bad.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, look again, it could be worse.

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Speaker 1: They could be you know, Philadelphia last year that just

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Speaker 1: had a nightmare season.

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Speaker 2: And end up in the lottery.

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Speaker 1: But Golden State is still you know there right there,

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Speaker 3: Seven in the playoffs. Man, that's better than that. Said,

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Speaker 5: You know he's not down on them.

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Speaker 5: Now.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, yes, well put me Jimmy. He doesn't

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Speaker 2: Which is reality twenty two and nineteen. What do you

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Speaker 2: Ain't gonna eat off of that equity.

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Speaker 1: And you know, I thought it was fool hardy at

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Speaker 1: So let's move on to more just you know, fun

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Speaker 2: That's crazy, incredible, credible poster.

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Speaker 3: Jersey swaps certain people's. Grady's not allowed to do jersey

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Speaker 3: It wouldn't be something somebody if they wanted my jersey

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Speaker 4: So I went over there, he signed them, gave it

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Speaker 2: God, okay, I like this.

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Speaker 3: But it wasn't even for me, like for my pops

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Speaker 1: Ah got you got you all and you know, and

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Speaker 1: And stuff like big deal Bro just just because the

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Speaker 2: Where did you go?

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Speaker 4: I've been to We played in Italy? We played in

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Speaker 3: It was after we won, after you guys won the championship.

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Speaker 3: I think we ended up losing one of those games.

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Speaker 3: I think we lost.

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Speaker 2: Was it a preseason the season?

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Speaker 3: Think I played against uh Wagner there you played the

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Speaker 3: German Yeah play team?

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Speaker 2: So you played?

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Speaker 3: Yeah? Played against mo I think what was young then?

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Speaker 3: And they had one of two Americans went off. Forget

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Speaker 3: his name, he went crazy right now, he went crazy

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Speaker 3: on one of the Americans over there. He actually played

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Speaker 3: here first in American and I think he played in

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Speaker 3: nb A for YouTube. Then he played in Europe and

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Speaker 3: then he was like my show showed the NBA teams

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Speaker 3: with what's up? And he actually he had him a night.

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Speaker 5: I don't know if we won lost any of those.

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Speaker 3: Game, but yeah, man, it was a it was a

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Speaker 3: good little experience Tottenham Hotspur. That's funny, but that's that's cool. Also,

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Speaker 3: it wasn't in Germany. I had it was a bad

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Speaker 3: memory for your boys social media, like I had a

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Speaker 3: I had a bad post in Germany. It was bad.

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Speaker 2: Oh my god, what happened?

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Speaker 3: We won't speak on.

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Speaker 2: That is a legendary pold like.

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Speaker 3: Crazy thing is. I posted it. I took that, I posted,

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Speaker 3: reposted a different caption and they were like, you just

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Speaker 3: take it down. I was like, all right, but.

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Speaker 2: Oh god, all right.

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Speaker 3: One to fourteen. We they beat us what was like

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Speaker 3: a half court It was like a folk I feel

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Speaker 3: like it was like doing the end of the game

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Speaker 3: Germany ALBA Berlin, Yeah, preseason game a German what's the

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Speaker 3: name went crazy what's his name? He's over there. I

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Speaker 3: feel like he played over here for the Lakers or something. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: who's that right there? That's hooping. You're getting buckets again?

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Speaker 3: Like pop? You know he we played something like but

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Speaker 3: we played enough minutes to where we should have won

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Speaker 3: the game. Got you, you know what I'm saying. But

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Speaker 3: it was like I think I might have even been

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Speaker 3: hurt playing. I might might have sat out. I think

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Speaker 3: I might have sat I don't know if I even played.

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Speaker 3: I think I might have been I played a little

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Speaker 3: bit there. I'm right there. I don't know if I played.

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Speaker 5: Is this the game winner? Yeah?

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Speaker 3: I think it was like towards the end, I think

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Speaker 3: he hit the game when like he hit the bucket, not.

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Speaker 1: The why yeah yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 3: So it was one of those things where we was

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Speaker 3: like were walking around the game, but then we try

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Speaker 3: to get back. It was already rhythm, they had confidence.

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Speaker 3: We try to get in there. It was too late

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Speaker 3: that motherfuckers hitting and everything.

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Speaker 1: Timmy hadn't retired yet, right, No, he's right there, he's

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Speaker 1: in now.

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Speaker 3: Oh damn, Timmy boris everybody now we're on the court,

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Speaker 3: on the court too.

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Speaker 2: That's crazy.

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Speaker 3: Not him, somebody else had a game somebody else that

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Speaker 3: they had on their team.

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Speaker 4: You want to see the runner from college three.

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Speaker 3: Now we had all starters in Bros. Me monum like

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Speaker 3: the old team out there.

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Speaker 1: No like.

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Speaker 3: But again we didn't play the whole But at the

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Speaker 3: game he was like, we're gonna go in and work

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Speaker 3: on like we're trying to get some ship done. Now

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Speaker 3: they was hooping. Bro gives a guy, get.

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Speaker 2: This is wait this this wind happened at the buzzard.

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Speaker 2: That's so funny.

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Speaker 3: I think it happened.

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Speaker 5: Do you have to do is get it in.

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Speaker 3: That's more right there, that's more I think. So I

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Speaker 2: Was it.

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Speaker 3: Not via phone? Some would reach out to me, Oh sure,

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Speaker 2: Got and they'd be like, yo, this is what should

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Speaker 3: This is what?

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Speaker 3: Like yo. Pretty much just It's mostly a confidence thing.

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Speaker 3: This was part of the game. Don't who's confidence? Do

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Speaker 3: what you do, like, get back to it, You'll be fine. Uh.

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Speaker 3: And some most coaches will obviously film break it down

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Speaker 3: and like, yo, you should probably talk to so and

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Speaker 3: They always reach out.

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Speaker 2: Anybody ever reach out to you, Paul, when you were

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Speaker 4: Not that I can remember. I remember going to I

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Speaker 4: who I used to go to times, my Mike.

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Speaker 5: Gorman and Tommy Hinesen.

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Speaker 4: Wow, you know because I used to always talk to

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Speaker 4: Mike before the game or Tommy or and if y'all

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Speaker 4: don't know who that is, that was our our.

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Speaker 2: Home announcer and play by play.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, guys.

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Speaker 4: And I'll be like Mike, you know what you know

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Speaker 4: what you see what you see? I mean, they watch

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Speaker 4: I think you settling too much. Uh for threes, you

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Speaker 3: Love that dope, But that's crazy that he's number two now.

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Speaker 3: Like that just shows you how how many players don't wow,

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Speaker 3: Like they recycle a lot of like nobody stays.

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Speaker 1: And the Heat are a fairly new NBA friend. They

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Speaker 1: like that. Obviously they're not like one of the legacy teams, yeah,

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Speaker 1: But like Damn Bamuto about to be the all time

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Speaker 1: I would have thought he was the leading rebounder. They

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Speaker 1: he had a playing pretty good for especially what their

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Speaker 1: You know, we talked about Rachel saying, Rachel Nichols reporting

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Speaker 1: that from Job's.

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Speaker 2: Camp, they would love to go to Miami.

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Speaker 1: That's their preferred destination if the trade would come to fruition.

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Speaker 1: I saw somewhere today that like Miami isn't like crazy

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Speaker 1: about the job thing, uh, and they maybe wouldn't want

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Speaker 1: to have to give up, say a Davion Mitchell and

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Speaker 2: They really like, Terry Roer and some bs.

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Speaker 3: They can't even move Tor. But it's gonna be one

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Speaker 3: the point where they're just gonna let him go like

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Speaker 3: Atlanta did Betray, Like, all right, we gotta get him

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Speaker 3: out of here because he's just too much of a distraction.

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Speaker 3: We're gonna take five cents on the dollar.

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Speaker 5: What was that situation with him and his teammate Vince.

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Speaker 7: It seems I think what it seemed like people, I

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Speaker 1: It came out that Jaw's just straight up hasn't gotten

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Speaker 1: Moran felt alienated from his teammates behind that.

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00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:01,560
Speaker 2: Like the idea that they would listen.

668
00:32:01,320 --> 00:32:03,480
Speaker 1: To the coaches is just not talk to him, yeah

669
00:32:03,880 --> 00:32:05,680
Speaker 1: or whatever, not communicate with him.

670
00:32:06,000 --> 00:32:07,480
Speaker 2: And I think this just looks like a.

671
00:32:07,440 --> 00:32:11,640
Speaker 1: Guy who just doesn't have the best relationship with his

672
00:32:11,720 --> 00:32:12,560
Speaker 1: guys anymore.

673
00:32:13,120 --> 00:32:15,080
Speaker 3: I know Vince, and I don't think he would like

674
00:32:15,120 --> 00:32:16,760
Speaker 3: people make it seem like they were arguing.

675
00:32:16,800 --> 00:32:19,600
Speaker 5: I don't feel like that didn't look from no Vince.

676
00:32:19,680 --> 00:32:19,920
Speaker 3: Vince.

677
00:32:20,120 --> 00:32:21,800
Speaker 1: It looked like it was a fight, as in, me

678
00:32:21,880 --> 00:32:23,680
Speaker 1: and you have a problem, we need to fight.

679
00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:25,360
Speaker 2: It's just like I don't care what.

680
00:32:25,280 --> 00:32:27,120
Speaker 3: You really have to say, yeah, basically, And I think

681
00:32:27,200 --> 00:32:28,920
Speaker 3: Vince it looked like Vince was trying to convince him

682
00:32:28,920 --> 00:32:30,320
Speaker 3: to be a part of the group or do what

683
00:32:30,360 --> 00:32:32,040
Speaker 3: they're doing. And he's like, let's go over here with

684
00:32:32,080 --> 00:32:33,840
Speaker 3: and he's like nahin like I ain't fucking with that.

685
00:32:34,080 --> 00:32:37,400
Speaker 3: I'm cool right here, like that type of vibe. Again,

686
00:32:37,440 --> 00:32:41,320
Speaker 3: I don't know for sure, but e Vince is a

687
00:32:41,320 --> 00:32:43,080
Speaker 3: good young kid man. He ain't the type to be

688
00:32:43,120 --> 00:32:45,400
Speaker 3: like on some you know, we need I'm a scrap

689
00:32:45,400 --> 00:32:46,640
Speaker 3: with you, like you don't meet me in the back

690
00:32:46,680 --> 00:32:48,920
Speaker 3: type shit like again it could have been, but I

691
00:32:48,960 --> 00:32:50,960
Speaker 3: don't think so. But again, and he.

692
00:32:50,920 --> 00:32:53,040
Speaker 2: Didn't play in Germany. That's another thing.

693
00:32:53,360 --> 00:32:54,880
Speaker 5: And this is like what.

694
00:32:56,760 --> 00:32:59,080
Speaker 3: You know, I mean, they today don't got no smoke.

695
00:32:59,280 --> 00:33:01,920
Speaker 2: And this is the crazy thing about all of this

696
00:33:02,240 --> 00:33:06,840
Speaker 2: is three years ago, twenty twenty two, twenty three.

697
00:33:07,800 --> 00:33:13,120
Speaker 1: Around that time, I remember I used to negatively compare

698
00:33:13,280 --> 00:33:16,640
Speaker 1: John Trey Young where it was just like Yo, the

699
00:33:16,720 --> 00:33:21,080
Speaker 1: Grizzlies seemed to be rallying around John Moran. They seem

700
00:33:21,160 --> 00:33:23,520
Speaker 1: to be invested in his success, even though he was

701
00:33:23,600 --> 00:33:26,520
Speaker 1: clearly the superstar. It felt like they were a group

702
00:33:26,600 --> 00:33:29,120
Speaker 1: that was together and a bunch of guys that really

703
00:33:29,240 --> 00:33:33,680
Speaker 1: like each other. Yeah, you know him brooks Bane, you

704
00:33:33,720 --> 00:33:36,880
Speaker 1: know jar Jackson, Jared Jackson, Steven Adams.

705
00:33:36,920 --> 00:33:38,480
Speaker 2: It felt like these guys.

706
00:33:38,520 --> 00:33:42,280
Speaker 1: Were a unit, whereas like in Atlanta, never felt like

707
00:33:42,320 --> 00:33:45,960
Speaker 1: people were galvanized around Trey and his personality.

708
00:33:45,280 --> 00:33:48,440
Speaker 2: And they felt like they didn't have that. So it's

709
00:33:48,520 --> 00:33:49,960
Speaker 2: like Joah was.

710
00:33:50,400 --> 00:33:52,400
Speaker 1: I looked at him as a guy that was great

711
00:33:52,440 --> 00:33:56,080
Speaker 1: at cultivating relationships with his teammates, so to see like

712
00:33:56,200 --> 00:33:58,360
Speaker 1: how it's going now is kind of disappointing.

713
00:33:58,480 --> 00:34:01,800
Speaker 4: Well, I thought they start to have chinks in his

714
00:34:01,920 --> 00:34:04,600
Speaker 4: armor when you traded Brooks.

715
00:34:04,200 --> 00:34:05,840
Speaker 5: Yeah, I felt like.

716
00:34:05,800 --> 00:34:08,960
Speaker 2: He and it basically told me to kick by the way.

717
00:34:09,040 --> 00:34:10,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, they didn't just let him go.

718
00:34:10,480 --> 00:34:13,200
Speaker 4: I mean I loved watching him dance with his teammates

719
00:34:13,200 --> 00:34:16,799
Speaker 4: before the game and that camaraderie and and the.

720
00:34:16,760 --> 00:34:18,800
Speaker 5: Look that that brings unity.

721
00:34:19,600 --> 00:34:21,600
Speaker 4: And it's like they lost that and then then you

722
00:34:21,680 --> 00:34:24,480
Speaker 4: lose bang, trade him, get him out of the Adams.

723
00:34:24,560 --> 00:34:26,759
Speaker 4: It's just like it's just slowly chipped away at the

724
00:34:26,760 --> 00:34:28,680
Speaker 4: culture to where now what is it?

725
00:34:28,960 --> 00:34:31,120
Speaker 3: I think the last strow was was Taylor Griffin and

726
00:34:31,480 --> 00:34:35,280
Speaker 3: and Des going Dylan was going first and Steven Adams

727
00:34:35,320 --> 00:34:38,600
Speaker 3: went second, and then Tis ended up like Tys was

728
00:34:38,640 --> 00:34:40,439
Speaker 3: the backup point guard. He was playing well for them,

729
00:34:40,840 --> 00:34:45,600
Speaker 3: Brandon Clark's been hurt. Then like a lot of smaller

730
00:34:45,600 --> 00:34:48,839
Speaker 3: pieces dipped, and then once Taylor got fired and then

731
00:34:48,840 --> 00:34:50,239
Speaker 3: Des was gone, He's like.

732
00:34:53,640 --> 00:34:56,239
Speaker 1: I really hope something happens, and I hope it likes

733
00:34:56,280 --> 00:34:59,279
Speaker 1: a fire and the jaw to remind people that like

734
00:34:59,360 --> 00:35:04,080
Speaker 1: this guy was all NBA legitimately This wasn't like some sympathy.

735
00:35:04,160 --> 00:35:05,399
Speaker 2: Oh a bunch of people got hurt.

736
00:35:05,400 --> 00:35:08,560
Speaker 1: Oh, but no, like he was legit all NBA with

737
00:35:08,640 --> 00:35:11,120
Speaker 1: everybody being a level performer.

738
00:35:11,200 --> 00:35:12,880
Speaker 2: He's one of the best players in the NBA.

739
00:35:13,520 --> 00:35:15,560
Speaker 1: And now it's like, you know, they're gonna give him

740
00:35:15,560 --> 00:35:17,799
Speaker 1: away for a bag of chips. It's sad to see.

741
00:35:17,840 --> 00:35:22,880
Speaker 1: Hopefully this situation gets resolved quickly. All right, let's let's

742
00:35:22,920 --> 00:35:26,440
Speaker 1: get into our pigs review. Wednesday night, we had the

743
00:35:26,520 --> 00:35:29,560
Speaker 1: Knicks at the Kings. Danny went three and one while

744
00:35:29,680 --> 00:35:30,879
Speaker 1: I went one in three.

745
00:35:31,080 --> 00:35:34,680
Speaker 2: Paul. That's first time, long time.

746
00:35:38,239 --> 00:35:41,600
Speaker 1: To bring our records collectively twenty five and sixteen for me,

747
00:35:42,280 --> 00:35:43,600
Speaker 1: Danny is twenty three and eighteen.

748
00:35:43,680 --> 00:35:45,040
Speaker 2: Paul is twenty three and eighteen.

749
00:35:45,560 --> 00:35:48,239
Speaker 1: A cat more or less than nine and a half

750
00:35:48,280 --> 00:35:50,200
Speaker 1: rebounds Paul and Danny said less?

751
00:35:50,239 --> 00:35:55,640
Speaker 2: What said more? He had four rebounds? He had four.

752
00:35:56,239 --> 00:35:57,200
Speaker 3: I think at least seven.

753
00:35:58,160 --> 00:35:59,440
Speaker 5: I think he's interested.

754
00:35:59,560 --> 00:36:03,200
Speaker 1: They got their doors blown off by the Sacramento by

755
00:36:03,239 --> 00:36:06,480
Speaker 1: the Kings. Mitchell Robinson more or less than seven and

756
00:36:06,480 --> 00:36:08,440
Speaker 1: a half rebounds myself and Danny said more.

757
00:36:08,440 --> 00:36:10,320
Speaker 2: Paul said less. He had eleven.

758
00:36:10,880 --> 00:36:13,280
Speaker 1: Zach Lavine more or less than twenty and a half,

759
00:36:14,040 --> 00:36:15,879
Speaker 1: Danny said more me and Paul said less.

760
00:36:15,920 --> 00:36:16,880
Speaker 2: He had twenty five.

761
00:36:17,440 --> 00:36:20,640
Speaker 1: Jalen Brunson left the game with a freaking ankle.

762
00:36:21,000 --> 00:36:24,040
Speaker 3: Damn, that's the only one I lost. He's staying in

763
00:36:24,080 --> 00:36:25,239
Speaker 3: that game, boy, all of.

764
00:36:25,200 --> 00:36:28,440
Speaker 2: A sudden more he had eighteen damn?

765
00:36:28,600 --> 00:36:30,520
Speaker 3: And how much time? What quarter was that he left with?

766
00:36:31,680 --> 00:36:32,080
Speaker 2: Early?

767
00:36:32,200 --> 00:36:35,120
Speaker 3: He definitely would have got that.

768
00:36:35,719 --> 00:36:37,480
Speaker 2: Five hundred for the night breaking.

769
00:36:38,760 --> 00:36:43,560
Speaker 1: It's crazy. Still we're all above five hundred. We're all

770
00:36:43,600 --> 00:36:46,040
Speaker 1: making you guys money. Let's get into our Picks of

771
00:36:46,080 --> 00:36:48,479
Speaker 1: the night.

772
00:36:48,800 --> 00:36:50,480
Speaker 5: Yeah, we all said the Nis would win.

773
00:36:50,560 --> 00:36:53,480
Speaker 1: We didn't know Jalen Brunson was going to have an

774
00:36:53,480 --> 00:36:58,040
Speaker 1: ankle and Carl Towns was gonna play like a pumpkin. Okay,

775
00:36:58,800 --> 00:37:02,800
Speaker 1: Picks of the Knight percent by our guys at Prize Picks.

776
00:37:03,120 --> 00:37:06,640
Speaker 1: Let's get right into it. Saturday Night, seven pm, The

777
00:37:06,719 --> 00:37:10,839
Speaker 1: Lakers at the Blazers. Luka Doncic more or less than

778
00:37:10,880 --> 00:37:12,120
Speaker 1: seven and a half assists.

779
00:37:14,400 --> 00:37:17,960
Speaker 3: I'm gonna say, I'm gonna say less.

780
00:37:18,800 --> 00:37:21,560
Speaker 5: Oh, I'm gonna give you more.

781
00:37:22,000 --> 00:37:24,920
Speaker 2: More for me too. Lebron James more or less than

782
00:37:24,960 --> 00:37:29,800
Speaker 2: nineteen and a half more more. Lebron's been killing.

783
00:37:29,760 --> 00:37:31,320
Speaker 5: He's been killing. I'm gonna go more with Lebron.

784
00:37:31,360 --> 00:37:32,080
Speaker 2: I'm gonna go more.

785
00:37:32,080 --> 00:37:36,360
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go more as well, my guy Danny Ivdia

786
00:37:36,560 --> 00:37:38,759
Speaker 1: more or less than twenty six and a half.

787
00:37:38,520 --> 00:37:41,560
Speaker 5: Baul, I think he's gonna turn this uf.

788
00:37:44,000 --> 00:37:44,520
Speaker 2: Godless?

789
00:37:45,080 --> 00:37:45,600
Speaker 3: What about you?

790
00:37:45,680 --> 00:37:48,200
Speaker 2: I'm going more, Bro, I'm going more to the Lakers.

791
00:37:48,280 --> 00:37:51,280
Speaker 2: They're gonna make mince me. He's gonna make mince.

792
00:37:51,080 --> 00:37:52,520
Speaker 3: Me and one.

793
00:37:54,760 --> 00:37:58,879
Speaker 5: Start l e s s less, less, less less.

794
00:37:58,840 --> 00:38:01,360
Speaker 1: All right, let's shade show more or less than twenty

795
00:38:01,360 --> 00:38:01,960
Speaker 1: one and a half.

796
00:38:02,200 --> 00:38:03,920
Speaker 3: Last time we didn't bet on this kid. He had more.

797
00:38:04,040 --> 00:38:06,200
Speaker 3: You know he killed. I'm gonna go more. Bro. Some

798
00:38:06,280 --> 00:38:09,040
Speaker 3: about when they play against every time any team plays

799
00:38:09,040 --> 00:38:11,319
Speaker 3: against the Lakers, Bro, guys, give me more for I'm

800
00:38:11,320 --> 00:38:15,800
Speaker 3: gonna more, last, last, less, less, less, and less.

801
00:38:15,840 --> 00:38:17,359
Speaker 5: I gotta get back in this right all right?

802
00:38:17,400 --> 00:38:19,640
Speaker 2: And just for good measure, who wins this matchup?

803
00:38:21,440 --> 00:38:24,360
Speaker 3: The Lakers win the night, they will. I think this

804
00:38:24,440 --> 00:38:25,719
Speaker 3: is gonna be a tough game for them to win.

805
00:38:26,640 --> 00:38:32,560
Speaker 3: They beat him earlier in the season, but without Austin Reeves.

806
00:38:30,800 --> 00:38:32,560
Speaker 2: Blazers have some big wins this season.

807
00:38:32,560 --> 00:38:35,760
Speaker 3: But I'm going I'm going Blazers. I think without Austin,

808
00:38:35,880 --> 00:38:38,920
Speaker 3: that's gonna be tough for them to beat Portland and Portland.

809
00:38:39,400 --> 00:38:43,120
Speaker 1: All right, let's let's let's move on to just one

810
00:38:43,160 --> 00:38:47,759
Speaker 1: of the sadder situations that's happening right now currently in

811
00:38:47,800 --> 00:38:53,919
Speaker 1: the NBA is the play of Karl Anthony Challenge.

812
00:38:52,400 --> 00:38:55,960
Speaker 2: Four rebounds, four rebounds.

813
00:38:55,520 --> 00:38:56,760
Speaker 3: Against the Kings.

814
00:38:56,760 --> 00:39:04,960
Speaker 1: His co de Manta, No, he had eight. I think

815
00:39:05,000 --> 00:39:07,600
Speaker 1: he had eight rebounds in the first quarter. I mean,

816
00:39:08,000 --> 00:39:09,000
Speaker 1: which is just shows you.

817
00:39:09,000 --> 00:39:11,520
Speaker 3: It's just you're capable, bro, Like you just gotta have

818
00:39:11,560 --> 00:39:12,600
Speaker 3: the one two as all.

819
00:39:12,960 --> 00:39:15,600
Speaker 1: So it's coach Mike Brown called him out for being

820
00:39:15,800 --> 00:39:17,720
Speaker 1: lazy in his postgame presser.

821
00:39:18,040 --> 00:39:19,280
Speaker 2: Let's take a look at Mike Brown.

822
00:39:19,520 --> 00:39:22,440
Speaker 5: You know something happened where he fell down. I think

823
00:39:22,480 --> 00:39:23,719
Speaker 5: it was he drove. He fell down.

824
00:39:23,760 --> 00:39:25,400
Speaker 8: When you fall down and you gotta get up, you

825
00:39:25,400 --> 00:39:27,719
Speaker 8: gotta sprint down the floor, and even if you're the

826
00:39:27,800 --> 00:39:30,000
Speaker 8: last guy down the floor, you know you got to

827
00:39:30,040 --> 00:39:32,440
Speaker 8: get down there just in case there's a long rebound.

828
00:39:33,800 --> 00:39:36,719
Speaker 8: But there was no urgency. Now, that wasn't the only play.

829
00:39:36,719 --> 00:39:40,040
Speaker 8: They were handful of plays where we did that, but

830
00:39:40,120 --> 00:39:42,359
Speaker 8: there was no sense of urgency on that particular play

831
00:39:42,400 --> 00:39:43,120
Speaker 8: to get back.

832
00:39:43,600 --> 00:39:45,560
Speaker 2: And it was a five pointing.

833
00:39:46,200 --> 00:39:47,880
Speaker 8: You know, if he at least gets down the floor

834
00:39:48,400 --> 00:39:49,759
Speaker 8: long rebound, he's gonna get it.

835
00:39:49,760 --> 00:39:50,839
Speaker 5: Because he's trailing to play.

836
00:39:51,160 --> 00:39:56,480
Speaker 3: I know, Mike Mikey was not happy about this. Get look,

837
00:39:57,120 --> 00:40:00,320
Speaker 3: he's always falling, he felt. Then get he try to

838
00:40:00,320 --> 00:40:02,440
Speaker 3: get up. He slipped a little bit, and he's watching

839
00:40:02,440 --> 00:40:03,839
Speaker 3: the player to see if he has to get back

840
00:40:03,840 --> 00:40:06,040
Speaker 3: because they took a quick shot. He's thinking they don't

841
00:40:06,040 --> 00:40:06,520
Speaker 3: get the rebounds.

842
00:40:06,640 --> 00:40:07,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I'm about to get too.

843
00:40:08,200 --> 00:40:12,359
Speaker 3: Yeah, get easy. Now it looks worse. So look, it's

844
00:40:12,400 --> 00:40:15,000
Speaker 3: just a it's a bad game. Like the wrist that

845
00:40:15,000 --> 00:40:15,680
Speaker 3: he took was bad.

846
00:40:16,120 --> 00:40:18,160
Speaker 4: That's but look at that who is that in the corner,

847
00:40:18,239 --> 00:40:23,200
Speaker 4: Josh Russ. That's Josh Josh. He pushed you off, like,

848
00:40:23,280 --> 00:40:25,080
Speaker 4: get to the corner. Look at this doll. That's Josh

849
00:40:25,160 --> 00:40:27,719
Speaker 4: hard right here it is.

850
00:40:27,640 --> 00:40:29,600
Speaker 3: It is Russ. You're not closing out Russ, crazy hot

851
00:40:29,640 --> 00:40:32,600
Speaker 3: and to shoot a three. So it's like your late

852
00:40:32,640 --> 00:40:35,440
Speaker 3: contest Russ. So it just ended up looking really bad

853
00:40:36,000 --> 00:40:36,680
Speaker 3: half court though.

854
00:40:37,320 --> 00:40:45,040
Speaker 9: Yeah yeah, he doesn't even make it until you see

855
00:40:45,040 --> 00:40:46,920
Speaker 9: your team get the ball, Like you didn't even secure

856
00:40:46,920 --> 00:40:47,520
Speaker 9: the ball yet.

857
00:40:48,360 --> 00:40:50,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, Josh. Well, Josh also Russ was gonna miss it,

858
00:40:51,280 --> 00:40:51,839
Speaker 3: west Brook.

859
00:40:52,120 --> 00:40:54,240
Speaker 4: So if you're gonna say something about Cat, I gotta

860
00:40:54,239 --> 00:40:57,480
Speaker 4: say something about Josh not getting not that shot. He

861
00:40:57,680 --> 00:41:00,680
Speaker 4: pushed you out and covered the ball to the corner.

862
00:41:01,239 --> 00:41:02,480
Speaker 4: You didn't even challenge.

863
00:41:02,840 --> 00:41:04,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, joshould have did better.

864
00:41:04,120 --> 00:41:06,720
Speaker 5: But if you don't call out Cat, you call out Josh.

865
00:41:06,600 --> 00:41:06,960
Speaker 2: On that too.

866
00:41:07,040 --> 00:41:10,400
Speaker 3: You gotta call everybody but Cat. That is a bad possession.

867
00:41:11,040 --> 00:41:14,600
Speaker 3: That's a bad turnover. Happens you don't get back and

868
00:41:14,640 --> 00:41:17,680
Speaker 3: then you leak out earlier before you even secure the ball.

869
00:41:17,920 --> 00:41:20,440
Speaker 3: Is a bad look. So, and you don't have four

870
00:41:20,480 --> 00:41:24,960
Speaker 3: rebounds now if you had twenty and twelve, maybe one slide.

871
00:41:25,080 --> 00:41:27,839
Speaker 1: Yeah, how do you feel about Mike Brown calling him

872
00:41:27,840 --> 00:41:28,680
Speaker 1: out this publicly?

873
00:41:28,760 --> 00:41:31,719
Speaker 3: I love it. You need to We need more of it.

874
00:41:31,760 --> 00:41:32,200
Speaker 2: Who else?

875
00:41:32,640 --> 00:41:34,279
Speaker 5: I look at the team and I'm looking like.

876
00:41:34,280 --> 00:41:35,719
Speaker 3: Who we don't get enough of it? Bro?

877
00:41:36,960 --> 00:41:39,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, Brunson is definitely the leader. I don't know if

878
00:41:39,320 --> 00:41:42,120
Speaker 1: he's that type of leader though, What the fuck are you.

879
00:41:42,040 --> 00:41:44,480
Speaker 3: Doing to call people? He's not dreaming? Like? Yeah, I

880
00:41:44,480 --> 00:41:47,800
Speaker 3: don't think but even if you have that.

881
00:41:50,080 --> 00:41:50,759
Speaker 5: Get back, bro.

882
00:41:51,360 --> 00:41:53,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, we have so many people in our team.

883
00:41:53,440 --> 00:41:55,040
Speaker 3: That will call you, I cut your hayes off.

884
00:41:56,200 --> 00:41:57,719
Speaker 2: It's not we.

885
00:41:57,719 --> 00:41:58,600
Speaker 5: Didn't even need doc.

886
00:42:00,800 --> 00:42:02,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm about the yelling.

887
00:42:02,840 --> 00:42:06,040
Speaker 3: Yeah No, we definitely had that Toolay, that's definitely, but

888
00:42:06,080 --> 00:42:08,080
Speaker 3: we need more of this in today's game because you

889
00:42:08,160 --> 00:42:10,360
Speaker 3: can't even do that no more now. Like coach the kids,

890
00:42:10,560 --> 00:42:14,239
Speaker 3: both men were sensitive. Now, like more coaches to be

891
00:42:14,239 --> 00:42:17,319
Speaker 3: able to call out guys, not just star players, but

892
00:42:17,440 --> 00:42:19,600
Speaker 3: everybody should be able to be coached and called out,

893
00:42:20,000 --> 00:42:23,120
Speaker 3: especially if it's your multiple offenses.

894
00:42:24,080 --> 00:42:26,120
Speaker 1: I think the problem with the Knicks, especially in the

895
00:42:26,160 --> 00:42:29,920
Speaker 1: regular season, is that they don't have the defensive personnel

896
00:42:30,000 --> 00:42:30,560
Speaker 1: the coast.

897
00:42:30,600 --> 00:42:31,280
Speaker 2: On defense.

898
00:42:32,000 --> 00:42:35,520
Speaker 1: Everybody has to be giving it a thousand percent for

899
00:42:35,560 --> 00:42:38,040
Speaker 1: them to be competent. If you're gonna be playing Brunton

900
00:42:38,040 --> 00:42:40,480
Speaker 1: and you're gonna be playing Cat and they're gonna be

901
00:42:40,480 --> 00:42:43,920
Speaker 1: playing thirty six thirty eight minutes, you're constantly having guys

902
00:42:44,440 --> 00:42:47,759
Speaker 1: that defenses like to attack this. So everybody got to

903
00:42:47,840 --> 00:42:51,040
Speaker 1: be playing on a string, and those two like Cat

904
00:42:51,040 --> 00:42:51,839
Speaker 1: and Brunton.

905
00:42:51,600 --> 00:42:55,239
Speaker 2: Have to be playing at a maximum effort level.

906
00:42:55,280 --> 00:42:57,040
Speaker 1: When I think over the course of the regular season

907
00:42:57,080 --> 00:42:58,480
Speaker 1: they just don't feel like doing it.

908
00:42:58,520 --> 00:43:00,640
Speaker 3: I think they got guys though, Bro, they're not like

909
00:43:00,680 --> 00:43:02,839
Speaker 3: the Lakers. I think they have guys they can rely on. No,

910
00:43:03,000 --> 00:43:05,520
Speaker 3: for sure, you know what I'm saying, Like Mitch Robinson

911
00:43:05,600 --> 00:43:07,200
Speaker 3: is an anchor that you could be like, all right.

912
00:43:07,239 --> 00:43:09,359
Speaker 1: No, they have more big minute players that are real

913
00:43:09,440 --> 00:43:14,319
Speaker 1: defensive places the Lakers, But they still play guys that

914
00:43:14,600 --> 00:43:17,959
Speaker 1: aren't great defenders that are gonna play big minutes just too.

915
00:43:18,080 --> 00:43:19,399
Speaker 3: But you got you got a lot of the guys

916
00:43:19,440 --> 00:43:23,320
Speaker 3: like they have room they have they do this is good, Like.

917
00:43:23,400 --> 00:43:26,080
Speaker 1: You can't just show up and be kind of okay

918
00:43:26,160 --> 00:43:27,240
Speaker 1: and have a good defense.

919
00:43:27,640 --> 00:43:29,719
Speaker 3: You know, this game might be talking about differently if

920
00:43:29,760 --> 00:43:30,680
Speaker 3: Jaylen Brunson doesn't go.

921
00:43:30,680 --> 00:43:35,439
Speaker 1: Out, Yeah, they probably just win on offense, yeah for sure.

922
00:43:35,520 --> 00:43:38,600
Speaker 3: You know, and cats his his additude, Like the game

923
00:43:38,600 --> 00:43:40,799
Speaker 3: would go differently for him. The game would like might

924
00:43:40,840 --> 00:43:42,839
Speaker 3: have opened up differently for him to get more looks.

925
00:43:42,880 --> 00:43:44,759
Speaker 2: Would you have gotten six rebounds instead of four?

926
00:43:45,000 --> 00:43:48,040
Speaker 3: Maybe he might have got more looks, Like he might

927
00:43:48,040 --> 00:43:49,440
Speaker 3: have got a couple of picking pops. He might have

928
00:43:49,480 --> 00:43:50,840
Speaker 3: got like a couple of free throws, you know what

929
00:43:50,840 --> 00:43:54,040
Speaker 3: I'm saying. Who knows, which ultimately might have translated to

930
00:43:54,120 --> 00:43:56,080
Speaker 3: some more activity on defensemen in the floor.

931
00:43:56,840 --> 00:43:59,480
Speaker 2: Okay, let's you know, getting out of here. On the Knicks.

932
00:44:00,280 --> 00:44:02,360
Speaker 1: It it's just been up and down with these guys,

933
00:44:02,360 --> 00:44:04,640
Speaker 1: the ebbs and flows of the long season. Where we

934
00:44:04,719 --> 00:44:07,600
Speaker 1: at now with the Knicks in terms of their trajectory

935
00:44:07,640 --> 00:44:10,799
Speaker 1: for what they're ultimately trying to accomplish. James James Dotley gave

936
00:44:10,800 --> 00:44:13,040
Speaker 1: an interview and said, this is a championship team.

937
00:44:13,480 --> 00:44:16,799
Speaker 3: He has everybody to believe that. I haven't. I think

938
00:44:16,840 --> 00:44:19,200
Speaker 3: they're very much and if they're not, it'd be very

939
00:44:19,239 --> 00:44:21,759
Speaker 3: much a disappointment. Like there's nothing about them in the

940
00:44:21,840 --> 00:44:26,200
Speaker 3: last month or so that's wavered from that that thought, Like,

941
00:44:26,239 --> 00:44:28,640
Speaker 3: I still think they're very much the leader of the

942
00:44:28,680 --> 00:44:29,359
Speaker 3: East to me.

943
00:44:29,320 --> 00:44:32,080
Speaker 2: As long as the guys they should have a decent shot.

944
00:44:32,200 --> 00:44:35,000
Speaker 3: You know, Detroit is still playing very well, but they

945
00:44:35,040 --> 00:44:37,000
Speaker 3: are the team that has the pieces of the maturity,

946
00:44:37,000 --> 00:44:39,799
Speaker 3: the experience in a seven game series. I don't see

947
00:44:39,800 --> 00:44:41,480
Speaker 3: anybody else to be able to match up and beat

948
00:44:41,520 --> 00:44:43,200
Speaker 3: them in the East.

949
00:44:43,840 --> 00:44:49,640
Speaker 4: Well, I think because nobody's had his shoulders better than anybody.

950
00:44:49,320 --> 00:44:52,480
Speaker 3: Because Boston's not healthy. Boston's healthy, yeah.

951
00:44:52,160 --> 00:44:54,879
Speaker 5: Yeah, but and the way they look and they look

952
00:44:54,920 --> 00:44:56,000
Speaker 5: like they can come out the East.

953
00:44:56,880 --> 00:44:59,360
Speaker 1: I mean they're not coming out the East without Tatum

954
00:44:59,400 --> 00:45:00,600
Speaker 1: coming back, man.

955
00:45:00,840 --> 00:45:02,920
Speaker 3: I mean they had a couple of struggles Bill too

956
00:45:02,960 --> 00:45:03,520
Speaker 3: for they won one.

957
00:45:03,520 --> 00:45:07,799
Speaker 4: The night struggle we had Antonio, Indiana we didn't get

958
00:45:07,920 --> 00:45:10,600
Speaker 4: I mean that was that was bogus to I mean,

959
00:45:10,719 --> 00:45:12,200
Speaker 4: come leaving screen.

960
00:45:12,239 --> 00:45:14,040
Speaker 3: Tonight was a close one too. Tonight was the closer

961
00:45:14,960 --> 00:45:17,640
Speaker 3: they got one night. They needed that. They're goody good,

962
00:45:18,000 --> 00:45:20,000
Speaker 3: but bust healthy. So yeah, there's no other team that's

963
00:45:20,000 --> 00:45:24,640
Speaker 3: had his shoulder brother Knight close game like five point.

964
00:45:23,960 --> 00:45:26,560
Speaker 4: Four, five points, Okay, we got Yeah, we went down

965
00:45:26,560 --> 00:45:27,759
Speaker 4: to Miami, got back on track.

966
00:45:28,200 --> 00:45:30,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, got that on track.

967
00:45:30,640 --> 00:45:32,840
Speaker 5: Yeah, we're good. Oh, Lakers down eleven at the end

968
00:45:32,840 --> 00:45:35,200
Speaker 5: of the third. Tough. That's tough.

969
00:45:36,960 --> 00:45:38,920
Speaker 4: And you know that, you know the you know the

970
00:45:38,920 --> 00:45:40,239
Speaker 4: the Hornets went out last night.

971
00:45:40,400 --> 00:45:41,880
Speaker 5: You know they did. I heard, you know world on

972
00:45:41,880 --> 00:45:42,240
Speaker 5: the street.

973
00:45:44,320 --> 00:45:49,000
Speaker 3: They coming. They playing free expectations out here, balling, kicking it.

974
00:45:49,160 --> 00:45:51,759
Speaker 3: They're definitely kicking it, having a good time for one.

975
00:45:51,880 --> 00:45:57,080
Speaker 1: One one there definitely wanted, you know, in the show

976
00:45:57,120 --> 00:46:00,680
Speaker 1: off with a little bit of lay long jevity.

977
00:46:01,320 --> 00:46:01,760
Speaker 3: Okay.

978
00:46:02,600 --> 00:46:06,120
Speaker 1: Lebron has recently been turning back the clock he dropped

979
00:46:06,120 --> 00:46:08,759
Speaker 1: thirty one to nine and ten the other night, and the.

980
00:46:08,719 --> 00:46:11,160
Speaker 3: Lakers blowing the back to back a second and it

981
00:46:11,200 --> 00:46:11,360
Speaker 3: was the.

982
00:46:11,320 --> 00:46:14,280
Speaker 2: Second night of a back to back this season.

983
00:46:16,840 --> 00:46:21,120
Speaker 1: David Minimum of ESPN asks Lebron about how he prepares

984
00:46:21,200 --> 00:46:23,200
Speaker 1: for back to back This is what he said.

985
00:46:23,200 --> 00:46:25,480
Speaker 10: Playing in back to back games. David, how was he

986
00:46:25,520 --> 00:46:27,000
Speaker 10: able to do that for the first time in year

987
00:46:27,040 --> 00:46:28,960
Speaker 10: twenty three years? So I had to write it down

988
00:46:29,160 --> 00:46:32,600
Speaker 10: because he went through his daily routine to get him.

989
00:46:32,440 --> 00:46:34,080
Speaker 3: To the point of being able to play. I don't

990
00:46:34,080 --> 00:46:35,359
Speaker 3: want to short change him.

991
00:46:35,360 --> 00:46:39,240
Speaker 10: So he gets back from a flight Sacamento, sleeps overnight,

992
00:46:39,360 --> 00:46:44,000
Speaker 10: streaks up Tuesday morning, cold tub hyperbaric chamber, takes a nap,

993
00:46:44,520 --> 00:46:49,800
Speaker 10: then does Norma tech on his legs forty five minutes sleeves,

994
00:46:50,080 --> 00:46:55,400
Speaker 10: gets to the arena activation, stretching, rehab, lifting, pregame. Meal

995
00:46:55,760 --> 00:46:58,560
Speaker 10: looks at Mike Mancius, his longtime trainer. They give each

996
00:46:58,600 --> 00:47:00,120
Speaker 10: other nod and say, you know what, I think, this

997
00:47:00,160 --> 00:47:01,600
Speaker 10: is the time we're gonna do it. First back to

998
00:47:01,600 --> 00:47:03,719
Speaker 10: the back of the season. The Lakers coming off a

999
00:47:03,760 --> 00:47:06,239
Speaker 10: really bad loss in Sacramento. They lose to a team

1000
00:47:06,280 --> 00:47:08,719
Speaker 10: that was nine to thirty coming into the night. It

1001
00:47:08,760 --> 00:47:11,960
Speaker 10: was their third straight loss, seven out of eleven games.

1002
00:47:12,320 --> 00:47:14,799
Speaker 10: It could have been a moment where this thing they

1003
00:47:14,800 --> 00:47:17,880
Speaker 10: dig their hole even deeper. J. J. Reddick brought the

1004
00:47:17,920 --> 00:47:20,200
Speaker 10: team in for a pregame meeting. They talked about like

1005
00:47:20,280 --> 00:47:22,480
Speaker 10: the pride that they need to display, the joy they

1006
00:47:22,520 --> 00:47:25,440
Speaker 10: needed to display, and you saw the best, maybe their

1007
00:47:25,480 --> 00:47:26,320
Speaker 10: best win of the season.

1008
00:47:26,520 --> 00:47:27,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, it definitely was.

1009
00:47:27,920 --> 00:47:30,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, I again, second night of it, back to back,

1010
00:47:30,320 --> 00:47:32,239
Speaker 1: coming off tough loss Atlanta.

1011
00:47:31,960 --> 00:47:33,800
Speaker 3: Team, I thought they were definitely gonna especially if he

1012
00:47:33,800 --> 00:47:36,520
Speaker 3: didn't play, they would have lost. But Jayalen Johnson had

1013
00:47:36,520 --> 00:47:38,279
Speaker 3: a rough night. You know, he was struggling when I

1014
00:47:38,280 --> 00:47:40,440
Speaker 3: saw the game, he was like four fifteen at one point.

1015
00:47:41,200 --> 00:47:43,879
Speaker 3: But Bron Bron bawled out Bro and they very much

1016
00:47:43,920 --> 00:47:46,480
Speaker 3: needed it and they needed that win. So I think he's.

1017
00:47:46,400 --> 00:47:49,879
Speaker 1: Cool because if you remember Paul when he came back,

1018
00:47:49,920 --> 00:47:52,760
Speaker 1: at first it was it did look like Struggleville.

1019
00:47:53,000 --> 00:47:58,040
Speaker 4: Well yeah, I said about a month ago after of Lebron,

1020
00:47:58,160 --> 00:48:01,719
Speaker 4: but that version, hey, there no more. He got his

1021
00:48:01,840 --> 00:48:06,160
Speaker 4: legs under him. Now he's got his rhythm. And like

1022
00:48:06,200 --> 00:48:07,600
Speaker 4: I said, when he was struggle, I was like, he

1023
00:48:07,680 --> 00:48:09,840
Speaker 4: just got his legs like, you can't take off and

1024
00:48:09,920 --> 00:48:12,279
Speaker 4: think you can go into an NBA game and be

1025
00:48:12,360 --> 00:48:15,680
Speaker 4: who he was, like, you gotta get your rhythm, you

1026
00:48:15,760 --> 00:48:19,000
Speaker 4: gotta get your legs. It's a lot that go into that,

1027
00:48:19,040 --> 00:48:21,040
Speaker 4: and he's starting to get into his rhythm. He's getting

1028
00:48:21,040 --> 00:48:23,960
Speaker 4: his legs under him. He's getting in in the game shape,

1029
00:48:24,920 --> 00:48:28,000
Speaker 4: you know, not that he wasn't. I mean, like, first

1030
00:48:28,080 --> 00:48:30,640
Speaker 4: couple of weeks, Lebron, that's not the Lebron game shape.

1031
00:48:30,719 --> 00:48:33,200
Speaker 4: This is the Lebron game shape that we're seeing now

1032
00:48:33,239 --> 00:48:35,320
Speaker 4: after he's played like twenty five thirty games.

1033
00:48:35,440 --> 00:48:37,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, are you surprised he's able to get to this

1034
00:48:37,719 --> 00:48:39,000
Speaker 1: level that he's gotten too recently?

1035
00:48:39,080 --> 00:48:40,839
Speaker 3: I am, actually, I mean he predicted that he would

1036
00:48:40,840 --> 00:48:42,920
Speaker 3: get better. I was like, he's only gonna get older.

1037
00:48:43,400 --> 00:48:45,600
Speaker 3: I thought. I'm not saying he got worse. I would

1038
00:48:45,600 --> 00:48:47,200
Speaker 3: think he would get more rhythm, but I didn't think

1039
00:48:47,200 --> 00:48:51,000
Speaker 3: he'd be doing this everything back to the backs, especially

1040
00:48:51,080 --> 00:48:53,520
Speaker 3: early in the season January. I'm like, they needed it

1041
00:48:53,560 --> 00:48:55,239
Speaker 3: so like they needed this win, so he had. I

1042
00:48:55,239 --> 00:48:56,640
Speaker 3: feel like he had to play this back to back.

1043
00:48:56,680 --> 00:48:59,200
Speaker 3: He knows what was on the line, Like this is

1044
00:48:59,239 --> 00:49:02,160
Speaker 3: a make or break with Austin being out. But I

1045
00:49:02,200 --> 00:49:06,160
Speaker 3: didn't see thirty point almost triple double, Like he's having almost.

1046
00:49:05,840 --> 00:49:07,760
Speaker 2: Triple double twenty six points.

1047
00:49:08,000 --> 00:49:09,200
Speaker 3: Might have been highing that because he had like a

1048
00:49:09,239 --> 00:49:12,440
Speaker 3: twenty six damnit triple double other night. He's playing at

1049
00:49:12,440 --> 00:49:14,640
Speaker 3: a very high level. I thought he would be more

1050
00:49:14,640 --> 00:49:16,920
Speaker 3: of like a between eighteen and twenty two point a

1051
00:49:17,000 --> 00:49:19,400
Speaker 3: night and like, you know, seven and six, you know

1052
00:49:19,400 --> 00:49:22,640
Speaker 3: what I'm saying like that, But he's getting said averaging

1053
00:49:22,680 --> 00:49:25,160
Speaker 3: twenty six and having eight and nine and tens like,

1054
00:49:25,280 --> 00:49:25,840
Speaker 3: I didn't see that.

1055
00:49:26,120 --> 00:49:29,440
Speaker 4: So what happens to the pecking order now when Austin

1056
00:49:29,520 --> 00:49:32,240
Speaker 4: Reeves come back like Lebron is in his rhythm twenty

1057
00:49:32,280 --> 00:49:35,600
Speaker 4: six a night. Now Austin Reeves come back, does he

1058
00:49:35,680 --> 00:49:38,560
Speaker 4: take a back seat to Austin Reeves bro score?

1059
00:49:38,719 --> 00:49:41,600
Speaker 1: Go back to third option score when it's your opportunity

1060
00:49:41,600 --> 00:49:42,000
Speaker 1: to score.

1061
00:49:42,280 --> 00:49:46,080
Speaker 11: Yeah, Like, like at the end of the day, the

1062
00:49:46,160 --> 00:49:50,640
Speaker 11: team is is not so dominant with Luca and Austin

1063
00:49:50,680 --> 00:49:52,640
Speaker 11: Reeves that he get.

1064
00:49:52,719 --> 00:49:54,719
Speaker 3: They need scoring from all all three of them. They're

1065
00:49:54,760 --> 00:49:57,480
Speaker 3: gonna the only way they get a plate. You know.

1066
00:49:57,920 --> 00:50:00,759
Speaker 1: In terms of initiation, I think ast that Lucas should

1067
00:50:00,760 --> 00:50:03,320
Speaker 1: be the ones initiating offense, and Lebron should be the

1068
00:50:03,360 --> 00:50:06,760
Speaker 1: one finishing the plays, whether that be picking pop, finishing

1069
00:50:06,800 --> 00:50:10,400
Speaker 1: off a pick and roll. You had drawing a switch,

1070
00:50:10,600 --> 00:50:12,719
Speaker 1: a smaller guy on the switch because Austin has a

1071
00:50:12,719 --> 00:50:14,960
Speaker 1: smaller guy in him. You said, a good screen for him,

1072
00:50:15,160 --> 00:50:17,319
Speaker 1: backing that guy down, gett into the free throw line,

1073
00:50:17,520 --> 00:50:19,560
Speaker 1: that kind of thing. I think Lebron is more than

1074
00:50:19,600 --> 00:50:23,319
Speaker 1: suitable and capable of doing. But he should not be

1075
00:50:23,400 --> 00:50:26,399
Speaker 1: on the ball, you know, directing traffic, that kind of thing.

1076
00:50:26,480 --> 00:50:27,920
Speaker 1: But I want to get you guys out of here,

1077
00:50:27,920 --> 00:50:33,840
Speaker 1: out of this segment. With this dominating the Hawks, the

1078
00:50:33,920 --> 00:50:37,120
Speaker 1: eighth best team in the East at age forty one,

1079
00:50:37,160 --> 00:50:38,080
Speaker 1: make Lebron the goat.

1080
00:50:40,280 --> 00:50:43,920
Speaker 3: I say, here's the goat because of that game, just because.

1081
00:50:43,719 --> 00:50:45,480
Speaker 2: Of what he's doing at forty one.

1082
00:50:45,960 --> 00:50:47,760
Speaker 3: You know, here's the greatest career.

1083
00:50:49,280 --> 00:50:49,759
Speaker 2: That does that?

1084
00:50:49,800 --> 00:50:51,399
Speaker 3: Make him the go give him the greatest career.

1085
00:50:51,560 --> 00:50:55,640
Speaker 4: I'm always Jordan to go because so Lebron, Like I

1086
00:50:55,920 --> 00:51:00,120
Speaker 4: waivered from Lebron being the goat, but then like it matters,

1087
00:51:00,239 --> 00:51:01,520
Speaker 4: the final losses matter.

1088
00:51:02,239 --> 00:51:04,200
Speaker 5: They're not showing up in Dallas matters.

1089
00:51:04,920 --> 00:51:07,680
Speaker 4: Like I've never had to say that about Jordan's You

1090
00:51:07,719 --> 00:51:09,520
Speaker 4: know what, I'm saying I never said that in the

1091
00:51:09,520 --> 00:51:12,600
Speaker 4: final situation he didn't show up. You know, I never

1092
00:51:12,640 --> 00:51:15,160
Speaker 4: said that in the finals he got Jordan got out played,

1093
00:51:15,960 --> 00:51:17,920
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. So that matters when we're

1094
00:51:17,920 --> 00:51:20,479
Speaker 4: talking about the greatest. The greatest don't get out played

1095
00:51:20,520 --> 00:51:24,400
Speaker 4: in the biggest moments. So like, thats just nothing happened.

1096
00:51:25,600 --> 00:51:27,240
Speaker 3: Has Mike played in the biggest moments?

1097
00:51:27,400 --> 00:51:30,200
Speaker 2: I mean, what, like, what are we calling the biggest moments?

1098
00:51:30,320 --> 00:51:31,080
Speaker 5: The finals?

1099
00:51:31,520 --> 00:51:34,480
Speaker 1: So like the conference finals is not a big finals.

1100
00:51:35,080 --> 00:51:36,399
Speaker 1: Conference finals not a big moment.

1101
00:51:36,520 --> 00:51:37,240
Speaker 5: That's a big moment.

1102
00:51:37,360 --> 00:51:39,640
Speaker 2: Yeah he lost the detriiting all of these guys all

1103
00:51:39,680 --> 00:51:43,840
Speaker 2: the time, but yeah he lost lost to Boston a

1104
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Speaker 2: big moment.

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Speaker 5: So listen, I went from performed. This is the thing.

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Speaker 3: Look at you as an artist, and you're forgot how

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Speaker 3: you think.

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Speaker 4: Man, you're singing in the high school cafeteria stage, Like

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Speaker 4: we had a stage in the high school cafeteria and

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Speaker 4: you was kind of shaky. But then when you got

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Speaker 4: into the gym where it was more people in there,

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Speaker 4: you performed every time. Sure, people forget about that cafeteria song.

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Speaker 4: Jordan was on the biggest stage. I don't know who

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Speaker 4: he lost to in the conference.

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Speaker 3: I'm saying, bro, but even if he lost, when we

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Speaker 3: look at it, I don't say he outplayed. I just

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Speaker 3: say he lost. I don't think anybody like he. You

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Speaker 3: probably say he got all played. He had sixty three

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Speaker 3: against Boston.

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Speaker 1: What I would say is this, and I probably give

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Speaker 1: Mike the slight edge, right, and to me it is

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Speaker 1: a slight edge.

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Speaker 2: But what I would say is after that one, this

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Speaker 2: idea that.

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Speaker 1: You lose in the finals is worse than losing in

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Speaker 1: the conference finals of the second round.

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Speaker 2: That don't make no sense to me.

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Speaker 3: I'm not saying I think that's crazy to.

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Speaker 1: Me that it would have been better if Lebron not

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Speaker 1: got to the finals at all and lost in the

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Speaker 1: second round.

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Speaker 5: All right, cool.

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Speaker 1: What I will say about Lebron is after twenty eleven,

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Speaker 1: after losing the Dallas I really.

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Speaker 2: Don't know the next time he had a bad playoff series.

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Speaker 2: Like literally, it was just like straight up.

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Speaker 1: Like non stop delivering in every playoff series after that,

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Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like, yeah, that shit matters.

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Speaker 2: I think Dallas has to matter.

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Speaker 1: And I would say that Mike never play that bad

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Speaker 1: in any playoff series period. I would agree with that,

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Speaker 1: but like, I don't know, man, I think Lebron's big game,

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Speaker 1: big moment record in terms of how he's performed in

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Speaker 1: his career is solidified, definitely.

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Speaker 3: I mean my argument is not that argument I got

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Speaker 3: mic by I said a slight edge, this one a

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Speaker 3: one b I think Bron has the greatest career of

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Speaker 3: all time. The reason why I have Mike is because

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Speaker 3: he's my going. I watched him yet saying you know

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Speaker 3: what I'm saying, and he has six, He's won. It's

1151
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Speaker 3: not about his loss. He's not about the law. I

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Speaker 3: don't care about the loss. It's about them. He's won,

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Speaker 3: are they?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, how many mvpces might have five?

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Speaker 5: Five?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Bron got four.

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Speaker 3: So like he's he's done a lot. When I say

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Speaker 3: a lot more, he's done more with a short, shortest

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Speaker 3: time span. But it's the it's the it's the wins.

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Speaker 3: And again he's somebody idolized because I was young watching him.

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Speaker 3: That doesn't necessarily mean he was the Agree with you guys.

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Speaker 2: I just wanted to give you know who's the NBA

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Speaker 2: goal b T chat T is gonna?

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Speaker 3: Did you ever find out who's on that roster?

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Speaker 1: And erm comes down to what you value more dominant

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Speaker 1: or total longevity. Here's the cleanest way of the frame. Okay,

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Speaker 1: the case for Jordan, the case for Lebron. So who's

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Speaker 1: the goat? Peak is Mike? Total impact is Lebron.

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Speaker 3: Skill and career? Geez, that's all right, go a basketball

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Speaker 3: skilling career.

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Speaker 2: So chat g BT is that crazy? Chat g b

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Speaker 2: T one put over the fence, ass.

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Speaker 3: Man.

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Speaker 5: He said, Jordan's owned.

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Speaker 1: Michael Jordan's peak matters more longevity and the goat debate.

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Speaker 1: When the mistakes were highest, Michael Jordan was untouchable. Lebron

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Speaker 1: has the greatest career ever. That's what Jordan had, the

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Speaker 1: greatest run ever. Guy go equals guy.

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Speaker 3: Nobody can beat at his absolute best. No slitto, asteriskic shit.

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Speaker 4: Guy, nobody beat at his absolute best.

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Speaker 3: That's fair.

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Speaker 2: That's fair. That's a fair argument.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, that's fair.

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