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<v Speaker 2>All right, guys, Welcome back, Welcome back, Earn your Lesion

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<v Speaker 2>Podcast Episode six, Time Flies. This is our sixth edition.

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<v Speaker 2>We got a lot to cover.

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<v Speaker 3>This week, A lot going on, A lot going on in.

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<v Speaker 2>Our world for sure, a lot going on. So first

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<v Speaker 2>of all, before we start, we want to say thank

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<v Speaker 2>you guys for rocking with us, thank you for your feedback,

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<v Speaker 2>thank you for your DMS. Your message is very encouraging.

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<v Speaker 2>Shout out to the UK, shout out to South Africa

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<v Speaker 2>and all of our international listeners all over the world.

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<v Speaker 4>That's always love when we get the international feedback because

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<v Speaker 4>it's like, wow, the reach is so strong. It's like

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<v Speaker 4>extremely humbling, and it's finding that not just here in

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<v Speaker 4>the United States we're listening, but the message is being spread.

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<v Speaker 3>So that's dope.

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<v Speaker 2>That's dope. It's definitely dope for sure. So all right,

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<v Speaker 2>we're gonna jump right into it with the number one

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<v Speaker 2>sports topic of the Weekion Williamson and the Blue Devils.

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<v Speaker 2>So for anybody that is not in tune of what's

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<v Speaker 2>going on, Duke North Carolina big rivalry, probably one of

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<v Speaker 2>the biggest rivalry in sports, not just not just college

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<v Speaker 2>basketball sports period, right, So they had a game and

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<v Speaker 2>that's like their rival. So they had a game and

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<v Speaker 2>Zion being the star that he is right now and

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<v Speaker 2>he is the phenom of college basketball. So the tickets

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<v Speaker 2>were selling for I think ten up to ten thousand

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<v Speaker 2>dollars on some sites, and five thousand and two thousands,

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<v Speaker 2>so they were actually comparable to resale prices for Super

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<v Speaker 2>Bowl tickets.

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<v Speaker 4>According to vivid Seats, the prices, some of the price

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<v Speaker 4>was actually higher than the lowest super Bowl ticket.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's crazy. So the game comes and everybody's there,

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<v Speaker 2>Spike Lee's there, David Robinson is there, President Obama's there.

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<v Speaker 2>It's crazy, right, and then, in a freak accident the

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<v Speaker 2>first play of the game, in the first thirty seconds,

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<v Speaker 2>Zion literally blows his sneaker apart. I've never seen that

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<v Speaker 2>in the game before. It blows a sneaker apart, and

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<v Speaker 2>it's done. He's hurt, he's malone spring, So you know,

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<v Speaker 2>we want to wish him, you know, speedy recovery. That

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<v Speaker 2>was just a very weird and very unfortunate situation. But

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<v Speaker 2>the whole conversation brought into a lot of different things

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<v Speaker 2>that need to be talked about and need to be addressed.

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<v Speaker 2>And really the number one thing is the revenue that

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<v Speaker 2>college sports, in particular big time college basketball and big

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<v Speaker 2>time college football brings in, and we need to look

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<v Speaker 2>at that.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I mean, one of the things that immediately came

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<v Speaker 4>to our attention was like, is it worth him playing again?

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<v Speaker 3>Right? Because this guy is obviously going to be.

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<v Speaker 4>The number one pick in the NBA Draft in the summer,

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<v Speaker 4>and he's set to make millions of dollars from his

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<v Speaker 4>NBA contract as well as any shoe deal or shoe

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<v Speaker 4>company that signs him. And people are arguing, hey, this

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<v Speaker 4>kid is a student. He should not be paid for

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<v Speaker 4>his service.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so that's how people are saying that, do you

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<v Speaker 2>know you're getting paid in a scholarship and all that,

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<v Speaker 2>But I don't think people fully understand how complex the

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<v Speaker 2>situation is. So that's what we do here. We try

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<v Speaker 2>to make very complex situations easy to understand for everybody.

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<v Speaker 2>So that's what we're going to do hopefully with this. Right,

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<v Speaker 2>So we're look at March Madness, right, So March Madness.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a fitting time since we're at the end of

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<v Speaker 2>February and March Madness will be coming up in a

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<v Speaker 2>few weeks. So March Madness is a three week basketball

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<v Speaker 2>tournament for Division one basketball that determines the national champion. Right.

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<v Speaker 2>Every year, you know, you fill out your brackets, you

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<v Speaker 2>you you know, watch the games, you have the the

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<v Speaker 2>buzzer beaters, you have the final four, it's the whole deal. Right.

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<v Speaker 2>So the NC double A, Right, the NC double A

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<v Speaker 2>is the governing body for college athletics. Right, So the

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<v Speaker 2>NC double A their main source of revenue is March Madness.

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<v Speaker 4>Right. And the March Madness, like you said, is almost

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<v Speaker 4>a month of basketball games. Sixty four teams make it

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<v Speaker 4>in obviously, just over thirty plus games every weekend.

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<v Speaker 3>The field gets trindled down, but the money that is gross.

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<v Speaker 2>Is no, no, no, it's crazy al right. So March

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<v Speaker 2>madd twenty seventeen, three weeks of March Madness, the NC

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<v Speaker 2>DOUBLEA made one billion dollars, right.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, for the first time, record breaking, record.

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<v Speaker 2>Breaking them out. That's how much revenue they made. The

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<v Speaker 2>American Gambling Gaming Association says the number of brackets with

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<v Speaker 2>his seventy million, I mean seventy million people will play brackets,

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<v Speaker 2>office pools, gambling, friends, bars, whatever, right. Nine point two

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<v Speaker 2>billion dollars is gambled on the tournament. Right, So the

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<v Speaker 2>NC DOUBLEA makes one billion, nine billion is actually gambled

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<v Speaker 2>on it. So that represents ninety percent. That one billion

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<v Speaker 2>dollars represents ninety percent of the NC doublea's annual revenue.

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<v Speaker 3>Did More and Buffett have a billion dollar contest. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>per perfect brack of perfect bracket of billion dollars for

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<v Speaker 3>the PERFCT back.

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<v Speaker 2>So in twenty ten, the NC double A signs a

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<v Speaker 2>fourteen year deal with CBS and Turner for ten billion

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<v Speaker 2>dollars for March Madness. Right, so to cover the tournament,

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<v Speaker 2>they have a TV deal for ten billion dollars. Then

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<v Speaker 2>in twenty sixteen they have an extension for twenty thirty

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<v Speaker 2>two for eight more billion.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>So the first contract is supposed to run from twenty

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<v Speaker 4>ten to twenty twenty four. They see how lucrative it is.

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<v Speaker 4>By twenty sixteen, they're like, all right, let's reup.

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<v Speaker 3>We're going to.

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<v Speaker 4>Reup now so that we cant the rights to it.

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<v Speaker 4>So CBS has a few channels and networks. Obviously TNT

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<v Speaker 4>is Turn of Sports, and they have TBS and I

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<v Speaker 4>think True TV. Those are the four networks that cover

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<v Speaker 4>so you don't miss a game anymore. We used to

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<v Speaker 4>it only was like channel. It was only CBS when

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<v Speaker 4>we used to watch it, and then they were like, no,

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<v Speaker 4>we got to cover all these games, so now you

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<v Speaker 4>can't miss a game.

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<v Speaker 2>So all right, So how the money is broken down

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<v Speaker 2>is interesting and it's very complex, so I'll try to

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<v Speaker 2>make it as easy to understand as possible. Ninety six

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<v Speaker 2>percent of that billion dollars goes to members membership different colleges, right,

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<v Speaker 2>And they break it down so each conference gets a piece,

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<v Speaker 2>so they have two hundred and twenty million dollar pot

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<v Speaker 2>from the NCAA tournament. Then they split it up amongst conferences.

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<v Speaker 2>So each game that a team wins, their conference gets paid, right,

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<v Speaker 2>and then the further they go in the tournament, the

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<v Speaker 2>more money the conference gets paid.

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<v Speaker 4>So example of a conference would be like the ACC

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<v Speaker 4>or the Biggies Big twelve SEC.

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<v Speaker 3>Those our conferences PAC twelve right exactly.

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<v Speaker 2>So then from there it's up to the conference to

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<v Speaker 2>break it down to the individual teams. So it's a

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<v Speaker 2>hierarchy system. The nc DOUBLEA gets it, then they give

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<v Speaker 2>it to the conferences, and then the conferences gives it

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<v Speaker 2>to the teams, right, So it's like a three tier system.

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<v Speaker 2>So but the problem is that when people say it's

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<v Speaker 2>not as easy as just paying, so you look at

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<v Speaker 2>it and you say, okay, this is making billion dollars.

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<v Speaker 2>They have a ten billion dollar deal. How come the

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<v Speaker 2>athletes aren't getting paid? Well, only one third of the

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<v Speaker 2>teams are actually profitable, exactly right, So two thirds of

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<v Speaker 2>the teams aren't actually profitable. So the one third of

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<v Speaker 2>the teams that are profitable, they are paying for the

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<v Speaker 2>two thirds of the teams that are not profitable. That's

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<v Speaker 2>just basketball, but the NC Double A has a bunch

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<v Speaker 2>of different sports. In almost every single sport except for basketball,

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<v Speaker 2>is not profitable. So now you have pretty much a

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<v Speaker 2>handful of teams right in the grand scheme of things

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<v Speaker 2>that are funded every program.

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<v Speaker 4>Right, So it's like the kid who plays golf or

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<v Speaker 4>or the kid who plays lacrosse, baseball, field hockey.

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<v Speaker 2>And then there's a thing called Title nine.

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<v Speaker 3>Right.

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<v Speaker 2>So Title nine came in years ago, and that made

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<v Speaker 2>it where you have to have an equal amount of

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<v Speaker 2>women teams as men teams.

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<v Speaker 3>Whatever sports you're offering, you have to offer.

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<v Speaker 2>So now that cut the budget even more, and now

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<v Speaker 2>the big revenue sport is paying for not just every

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<v Speaker 2>male but female sports as well. So it's a very

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<v Speaker 2>diluted system that they're using the top tier money earners

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<v Speaker 2>to pay for everybody.

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<v Speaker 3>Right.

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<v Speaker 2>So then it gets even more complex because that's the

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<v Speaker 2>NC Double A is basketball where the real money is

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<v Speaker 2>made is football. So the NC double A one football

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<v Speaker 2>department is different from the NC Double A. So now

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<v Speaker 2>we have to go into football.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, football is a huge generator of money because number one,

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<v Speaker 3>it's simple math. Right, if you have eighty to one

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<v Speaker 3>hundred thousand people.

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<v Speaker 4>Coming to watch one sporting event and paying one hundred

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<v Speaker 4>dollars per ticket, you're gonna gross way more than an

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<v Speaker 4>arena that holds twenty thousand for basketball.

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<v Speaker 3>Right.

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<v Speaker 4>The only thing is like, yeah, basketball has more games.

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<v Speaker 4>But if a team has eight home games and they

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<v Speaker 4>sell out, which they do, like these big schools sell

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<v Speaker 4>out every game and they're getting one hundred and ten

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<v Speaker 4>thousand people to come in, it feels in comparison.

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<v Speaker 2>No, it's different. So, okay, we had a we looked

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<v Speaker 2>at Forbes list for twenty eighteen and the top five

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<v Speaker 2>football teams their revenue. Right, so the top football team was, well,

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<v Speaker 2>we'll start with number five. Number five was Ohio State.

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<v Speaker 2>They had a revenue of one hundred and twenty million

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<v Speaker 2>and they had profit of sixty nine million. Then we

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<v Speaker 2>go to Alabama one hundred and twenty seven million revenue

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<v Speaker 2>in fifty nine million profit. Michigan is number three, one

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<v Speaker 2>hundred and twenty seven million, seventy five million profit. Texas

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<v Speaker 2>Longhorns number two one hundred and thirty three million with

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<v Speaker 2>eighty seven million dollars of profit and the number one

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<v Speaker 2>team football team last year with Texas A and M

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<v Speaker 2>with the revenue of one hundred and forty eight million

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<v Speaker 2>with one hundred and seven million dollar profit. This is

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<v Speaker 2>just football, yeah, And that's nothing doing any other sports football,

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<v Speaker 2>That's what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 4>Like, that's just generating money for the school as well,

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<v Speaker 4>like you said, and the one thing we know about

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<v Speaker 4>Texas is football is king. Right, there's the reason why

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<v Speaker 4>the Cowboys are the most profitable team in the NFL.

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<v Speaker 4>So not only are they generating money, but we took

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<v Speaker 4>a look at where the money is going. So when

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<v Speaker 4>they argue, hey, athletes shouldn't be paid because they're going

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<v Speaker 4>to school for free, well here's the breakdown. So those

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<v Speaker 4>numbers that you just ran off, right, so we can

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<v Speaker 4>talk about how much is going to scholarship. So from

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<v Speaker 4>that money that was very generated from Ohio State, about

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<v Speaker 4>twenty million that goes.

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<v Speaker 3>To school to the school scholarships for all the sports.

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<v Speaker 2>So they made one hundred and twenty million, right, twenty

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<v Speaker 2>twenty million went to scholarship exactly. That means that we're done.

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<v Speaker 2>Where the all the one hundred go, We're.

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<v Speaker 3>Gonna get them. So number four, you say Alabama, they

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<v Speaker 3>spend seventeen million in scholarships. Okay.

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<v Speaker 4>Then number three Michigan we have twenty five million in scholarships.

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<v Speaker 4>Number two Texas they have thirteen million of scholarships. And

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<v Speaker 4>then number one Texas A and M ten million of scholarships.

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<v Speaker 4>And the reason Texas A and M is number one

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<v Speaker 4>this year is because a lot of people don't know.

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<v Speaker 4>It's like they have a large amount of boosters that

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<v Speaker 4>donate money to the program. So that money just gets

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<v Speaker 4>put into a pile of revenue because we're giving it

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<v Speaker 4>to the university to help improve conditions. Number one thing

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<v Speaker 4>they want is they want their football team to win.

0:12:38.040 --> 0:12:39.880
<v Speaker 4>That's it, like that eblily, that comes down to, we

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<v Speaker 4>want our football team to win. We'll pay money, will

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<v Speaker 4>hire national championship coaches from other schools just so that

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<v Speaker 4>we can win.

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<v Speaker 2>The Texas Longhorns has their own network.

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<v Speaker 3>So that's crazy. Like that is in itself.

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<v Speaker 2>They are like not to cut you off. But the

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<v Speaker 2>conversation of this is a conversation that literally can take

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<v Speaker 2>an hour, right because, like I said, there's so many

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<v Speaker 2>different levels involved with how much money is being generated.

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<v Speaker 2>You have Bowl games, you have TV contracts, you have

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<v Speaker 2>the Big Twelve that they have the Big twelve network.

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<v Speaker 2>Texas is in the Big twelve conference. Yes, yes, they're

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<v Speaker 2>in the Big twelve. Big twelve has its own network,

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<v Speaker 2>but the Texas long on have their own network.

0:13:22.600 --> 0:13:25.000
<v Speaker 3>They have their own completely separate of the Big Twelve.

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<v Speaker 3>And we get that here in New York. Like before

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<v Speaker 3>the Big East, before acc SEC had their own channels. Texas,

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<v Speaker 3>the school, the University of Texas had its own channel,

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<v Speaker 3>and they still have their own channel. It shows you

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<v Speaker 3>nothing but Texas and exclusive access. Really, what they want

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<v Speaker 3>to see is football.

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<v Speaker 2>No, it's different, it's different. And then can we just

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<v Speaker 2>go because we don't want to stay on this topic

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<v Speaker 2>for too long, but it's such it's so crazy, right,

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<v Speaker 2>So we have to talk about the coaches how much

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<v Speaker 2>money they made?

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<v Speaker 3>Right? So the coaches are the guys who bring the

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<v Speaker 3>recruits to the school and they make money. They make

0:13:57.120 --> 0:13:59.720
<v Speaker 3>money from their own contracts and they get endorsed.

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<v Speaker 2>So the top four, how much did the top football

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<v Speaker 2>coach made.

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<v Speaker 3>Nick Saban, So, I mean he's one of the greatest

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<v Speaker 3>coaches all time.

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<v Speaker 2>Eight point three million University of Alabama. Nick Saban made

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<v Speaker 2>eight point three million. How much did the top basketball

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<v Speaker 2>coach make?

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<v Speaker 3>So, coach k made eight points so nine million dollars

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<v Speaker 3>last year in salary.

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<v Speaker 2>That's the Duke coach. Ironically enough, we're talking about Zion

0:14:19.440 --> 0:14:24.760
<v Speaker 2>in private school too. So Duke, yes, private school and

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<v Speaker 2>the coach makes nine million dollars a year. All right,

0:14:28.080 --> 0:14:29.800
<v Speaker 2>we won't even go through the list of coaches because

0:14:29.800 --> 0:14:33.960
<v Speaker 2>there's that's crazy. Then we got endorsement deals. That's another

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<v Speaker 2>avenue that they make money. Right, So the number one

0:14:36.360 --> 0:14:41.040
<v Speaker 2>endorsement deal team is UCLA. They get twelve million dollars

0:14:41.080 --> 0:14:44.680
<v Speaker 2>from under Armour. Right, you have Louisville gets ten million.

0:14:44.800 --> 0:14:50.800
<v Speaker 2>Texas they get nine million. So now you have ten

0:14:50.840 --> 0:14:54.360
<v Speaker 2>million dollar, twelve million, nine million dollar endorsement deals in

0:14:54.480 --> 0:14:57.160
<v Speaker 2>top of on top of TV, on top of merch.

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<v Speaker 2>But so gotta go to want more category stadiums, right,

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<v Speaker 2>So the largest how much how many people do you

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<v Speaker 2>think the largest football stadium college college stadium polls?

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, I'm gonna say one hundred and twelve.

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<v Speaker 2>Thousand, one hundred and nine thousand, Michigan and Arbor Michigan University.

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<v Speaker 2>The football stadium holes one hundred and nine thousand. They

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<v Speaker 2>sell out every game, every single game. How much money

0:15:23.520 --> 0:15:25.000
<v Speaker 2>you think they're making off of that? They have one

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<v Speaker 2>hundred and nine that's a that's a town, one hundred

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<v Speaker 2>and nine thousand people fitting the football. That's more than

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<v Speaker 2>NFL stadiums.

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<v Speaker 3>Hole, there's plenty that don't hold on arena and so like.

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<v Speaker 3>From that, So that that money that they generate those

0:15:40.360 --> 0:15:43.640
<v Speaker 3>schools from the football, right, some of those that other

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<v Speaker 3>there's an other category.

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<v Speaker 4>So yeah, the scholarships are one. The coaching and staffing

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<v Speaker 4>is a budget, and then they have the other budget.

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<v Speaker 4>So and the others that could be for facilities, so

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<v Speaker 4>they add wings to a stadium, or they add a

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<v Speaker 4>new training facility at a university.

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<v Speaker 2>But you know what the best part about this whole

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<v Speaker 2>situation is n C double A is a nonprofit organization.

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<v Speaker 3>Soot that applot twist.

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<v Speaker 2>That's the that's the craziest part. All of this money

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<v Speaker 2>that generated the n C double A is a nonprofit organization.

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<v Speaker 2>That's a different conversation. Man, Now we have to go

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<v Speaker 2>into a personal story.

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<v Speaker 4>But personal you know what, I'm gonna start the personal

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<v Speaker 4>story because I remember, like I was big on video

0:16:23.640 --> 0:16:27.000
<v Speaker 4>games and in the early two thousands, Uh, they had

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<v Speaker 4>this game called March Madness and at that same time you.

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<v Speaker 3>Were in school. Yeah, I'll never forget that conversation. Yeah,

0:16:34.160 --> 0:16:35.560
<v Speaker 3>I'm playing March Madness.

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<v Speaker 2>So prior to my career business, I.

0:16:40.800 --> 0:16:43.080
<v Speaker 3>Was a basketball player that was in basketball.

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<v Speaker 2>Little known fact. I was a Division one basketball player, right,

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<v Speaker 2>So I played D one for two years. So yes,

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<v Speaker 2>the EA Sports, Yes, EA Sports, which is if anybody's

0:16:53.440 --> 0:16:57.480
<v Speaker 2>familiar with sports, EA Sports is video games. That's they

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<v Speaker 2>made Madden.

0:16:58.200 --> 0:17:00.240
<v Speaker 4>They made well NBA a lot used to be thing,

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<v Speaker 4>not so much anymore, but Madden is their top game

0:17:03.160 --> 0:17:03.440
<v Speaker 4>right now.

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<v Speaker 2>So they had so EA Sports used to have video

0:17:05.760 --> 0:17:09.080
<v Speaker 2>games for college football on college basketball yep, Division one

0:17:09.119 --> 0:17:12.320
<v Speaker 2>college football and Division one college basketball, and they had

0:17:12.359 --> 0:17:15.680
<v Speaker 2>every Division one school and they had the player's likeness.

0:17:15.680 --> 0:17:17.080
<v Speaker 2>They they had their name, but they had their likeness.

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<v Speaker 2>They couldn't say your name, but they put your number

0:17:19.080 --> 0:17:21.720
<v Speaker 2>and like your attribute. So if you were a good shooter,

0:17:21.840 --> 0:17:24.120
<v Speaker 2>then your rating was like an eighty or above. Right,

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<v Speaker 2>So when was that like two thousand and When was

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<v Speaker 2>I in college, I think two thousand and six something

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<v Speaker 2>like that. I don't know around that time, mid two thousands.

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<v Speaker 2>So yes, when I was in college, University of Maryland,

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<v Speaker 2>Baltimore County D one school number fifteen, I was number fifteen,

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<v Speaker 2>I was using you in the game, and yeah, he

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<v Speaker 2>was playing with me. It was like it was crazy

0:17:43.960 --> 0:17:46.240
<v Speaker 2>because we used to so we were just happy, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>being in college. I never was a really good well,

0:17:49.080 --> 0:17:51.159
<v Speaker 2>I never really was a really good video game player.

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<v Speaker 2>I wasn't in the video games, but my friends was,

0:17:52.920 --> 0:17:55.359
<v Speaker 2>my teammates were, so we would go and we played

0:17:55.440 --> 0:17:57.959
<v Speaker 2>video games. But it was just cool to see somebody

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<v Speaker 2>that it was made in your likeness, Like it looked

0:18:00.080 --> 0:18:02.159
<v Speaker 2>like me right like, so I'm like, that's kind of crazy,

0:18:02.240 --> 0:18:04.640
<v Speaker 2>like to have somebody in my likeness on a video game.

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<v Speaker 2>We wasn't thinking that they was using us and we

0:18:06.560 --> 0:18:11.080
<v Speaker 2>wasn't getting paid. So what somebody did right at Obannon,

0:18:11.160 --> 0:18:14.679
<v Speaker 2>that's a different story. Shout shout out at Obannon.

0:18:14.760 --> 0:18:17.199
<v Speaker 3>So they have people who only know at Obannon for this.

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<v Speaker 3>But this guy was like the national player.

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<v Speaker 2>If you don't know who Ed O'Bannon is do your research.

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<v Speaker 4>Nineteen ninety five UCLA National Champ, Player of the years, legend,

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<v Speaker 4>legend that.

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<v Speaker 2>But then he changes so he changed the game completely

0:18:30.320 --> 0:18:33.880
<v Speaker 2>because he realizes that EA Sports. So we talked about

0:18:33.920 --> 0:18:38.040
<v Speaker 2>all these other revenue sources, right, video games, billion dollar industry.

0:18:38.200 --> 0:18:42.520
<v Speaker 2>EA Sports making million dollars a year, and the colleges

0:18:42.520 --> 0:18:44.320
<v Speaker 2>are getting paid off of that as well because they

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<v Speaker 2>have to license their name to use them in the

0:18:47.000 --> 0:18:49.520
<v Speaker 2>video games. So the colleges are getting paid millions in

0:18:49.560 --> 0:18:51.720
<v Speaker 2>EA Sports are getting paid millions from video games, but

0:18:51.760 --> 0:18:54.800
<v Speaker 2>the kids wasn't getting any money. So they have a

0:18:54.840 --> 0:19:00.359
<v Speaker 2>class action lawsuit and they won. So what happen is

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<v Speaker 2>that anybody that played Division I sports football or basketball,

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<v Speaker 2>I think like from a ten year period that was

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<v Speaker 2>featured in that video game was part of that class

0:19:07.800 --> 0:19:10.760
<v Speaker 2>action lawsuit. And lo and behold, I was part of

0:19:10.800 --> 0:19:13.960
<v Speaker 2>that class action lawsuit. So they cut me a check.

0:19:14.040 --> 0:19:16.399
<v Speaker 2>They cut me a check. So around like probably like

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<v Speaker 2>three years ago, four years ago, I get a check

0:19:19.720 --> 0:19:21.040
<v Speaker 2>for like eighteen hundred dollars.

0:19:22.280 --> 0:19:23.440
<v Speaker 3>Look at that, it wasn't.

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<v Speaker 2>Bad, but it just goes to show you that there's

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<v Speaker 2>so many different ways how colleges are making money a lot.

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<v Speaker 2>So I know there's an argument that students are getting

0:19:36.760 --> 0:19:40.440
<v Speaker 2>scholarships and that's payment, and it look, it is valuable

0:19:40.480 --> 0:19:42.520
<v Speaker 2>because I was I was on a scholarship. I didn't

0:19:42.520 --> 0:19:45.280
<v Speaker 2>have to pay for college. I appreciated my college experience.

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<v Speaker 2>But but we can't act like a nonprofit organization that

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<v Speaker 2>makes billion dollars a year in schools that are making

0:19:55.840 --> 0:20:01.919
<v Speaker 2>billions and millions of dollars off of two sports. We

0:20:02.040 --> 0:20:05.320
<v Speaker 2>have to find a way to fairly compensate the players,

0:20:05.440 --> 0:20:07.520
<v Speaker 2>or if we're not going to compensate them, then we

0:20:07.600 --> 0:20:11.399
<v Speaker 2>at least have to let them go into professional sports

0:20:11.400 --> 0:20:14.040
<v Speaker 2>out of high school if they choose to, and not

0:20:14.200 --> 0:20:16.440
<v Speaker 2>make them go to college. Like you can't make somebody

0:20:16.480 --> 0:20:19.080
<v Speaker 2>go to college and then not pay them.

0:20:19.240 --> 0:20:21.959
<v Speaker 4>It's the only thing amateur about this is that they

0:20:21.960 --> 0:20:25.359
<v Speaker 4>don't get paid. They saying, oh, it's an amateur it's really

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<v Speaker 4>a fum system. It's like the minor leagues because in

0:20:30.280 --> 0:20:32.720
<v Speaker 4>football you can't it's a free trial. Yeah, you can't

0:20:32.720 --> 0:20:35.520
<v Speaker 4>go unless you do three years. In NBA and they're

0:20:35.560 --> 0:20:36.960
<v Speaker 4>trying to change that now you have to go for

0:20:37.080 --> 0:20:38.160
<v Speaker 4>at least one year.

0:20:38.240 --> 0:20:39.000
<v Speaker 2>It's a free trial.

0:20:39.040 --> 0:20:40.880
<v Speaker 3>But in other sports. That doesn't hold true.

0:20:41.359 --> 0:20:42.280
<v Speaker 2>It doesn't hold true.

0:20:42.359 --> 0:20:43.919
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, So like if I wanted to play golf, I

0:20:43.920 --> 0:20:46.960
<v Speaker 4>can do that as a teenager, hockey, teenager, baseball, teenager

0:20:47.080 --> 0:20:48.320
<v Speaker 4>soccer from Freddie you do.

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<v Speaker 2>I went to school with Freddie you do. Highly suspicious.

0:20:52.600 --> 0:20:56.480
<v Speaker 2>You know he wasn't fourteen. I don't know. That's a

0:20:56.480 --> 0:21:03.040
<v Speaker 2>different conversation. Highly suspicious. That football and basketball are the

0:21:03.080 --> 0:21:08.000
<v Speaker 2>only sports that require you to go to college. Extremely suspicions.

0:21:08.040 --> 0:21:09.640
<v Speaker 2>And look at the population of the people who play

0:21:09.640 --> 0:21:17.080
<v Speaker 2>those sports. Extremely suspicious. All right, Okay, well, hopefully we

0:21:17.119 --> 0:21:19.080
<v Speaker 2>can change it in their future.

0:21:19.160 --> 0:21:22.440
<v Speaker 4>Absolutely all right. So we're gonna move into the into

0:21:22.440 --> 0:21:25.040
<v Speaker 4>the next topic. We'll start with the line Mek Mills

0:21:25.040 --> 0:21:28.040
<v Speaker 4>said in so on Trauma they told Caps stand up

0:21:28.040 --> 0:21:29.800
<v Speaker 4>if you want to play for a team, and all

0:21:29.840 --> 0:21:32.840
<v Speaker 4>these teammates they say things they woke. So one of

0:21:32.880 --> 0:21:35.480
<v Speaker 4>the things that happened is in the past week was

0:21:35.520 --> 0:21:38.879
<v Speaker 4>that the NFL reached a settlement with Kelan Kaepernick in

0:21:38.960 --> 0:21:44.120
<v Speaker 4>his case of collusion against him. So it's pretty interesting

0:21:45.000 --> 0:21:47.639
<v Speaker 4>because people are taking different sides on it. A lot

0:21:47.640 --> 0:21:50.600
<v Speaker 4>of people are saying, hey, Cap sold out because he settled,

0:21:51.000 --> 0:21:53.040
<v Speaker 4>and other people are looking at it like, yo, he won,

0:21:53.240 --> 0:21:56.840
<v Speaker 4>because the settlement in a sense means that there's some.

0:21:56.760 --> 0:21:58.520
<v Speaker 3>Form of guilt that the NFL had.

0:21:59.240 --> 0:22:01.960
<v Speaker 4>Now we'll never know because of the terms of the

0:22:02.000 --> 0:22:06.240
<v Speaker 4>conditions of the settlement. So it's a different type of

0:22:06.280 --> 0:22:09.280
<v Speaker 4>take on it. But we're gonna go into a different approach.

0:22:09.320 --> 0:22:11.439
<v Speaker 2>It's different. Yeah. But even before we even go into that,

0:22:11.520 --> 0:22:14.440
<v Speaker 2>it's you know, nobody knows how much money got paid.

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<v Speaker 2>It's rumored that he got a hundred million.

0:22:15.920 --> 0:22:17.840
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, they're saying between sixty eighty million.

0:22:17.960 --> 0:22:19.680
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, even I heard one hundred. But let's say he

0:22:19.720 --> 0:22:22.399
<v Speaker 2>was a hundred hypothetically speaking, right, So, I mean that

0:22:22.480 --> 0:22:24.200
<v Speaker 2>is a lot of money. One hundred million dollars a

0:22:24.200 --> 0:22:26.160
<v Speaker 2>lot of money. But in the grand scheme of things,

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<v Speaker 2>if you think about it as thirty two NFL teams, right,

0:22:29.000 --> 0:22:33.600
<v Speaker 2>so they divide that equally amongst each other. That's three

0:22:33.640 --> 0:22:35.359
<v Speaker 2>point two million per team, per.

0:22:35.200 --> 0:22:36.840
<v Speaker 3>Owner, which is not anything to them.

0:22:37.000 --> 0:22:39.879
<v Speaker 2>A dropping a bucket, A dropping a bucket, Right, So,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean the league made fourteen billion dollars last year.

0:22:44.119 --> 0:22:47.159
<v Speaker 3>And he lost his salary, right he was getting I

0:22:47.160 --> 0:22:50.280
<v Speaker 3>think the he was on paces made twenty million dollars

0:22:50.760 --> 0:22:52.520
<v Speaker 3>he had two more years. I granted he did opt

0:22:52.520 --> 0:22:54.720
<v Speaker 3>out of his contract, but he opt out with the

0:22:55.119 --> 0:22:56.720
<v Speaker 3>intent that he was going to sign another deal.

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<v Speaker 2>So all right, so Colin Kaepernick, before we even go

0:23:01.320 --> 0:23:06.639
<v Speaker 2>into the plot twist on it, ratings are down, yeah, right,

0:23:06.840 --> 0:23:08.600
<v Speaker 2>so that.

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<v Speaker 4>So from so Cap starts his protest for social injustice,

0:23:15.240 --> 0:23:20.520
<v Speaker 4>specifically police brutality in twenty sixteen, and he's out twenty seventeen.

0:23:20.880 --> 0:23:23.560
<v Speaker 4>So the ratings go down for two years in a row. Now,

0:23:23.640 --> 0:23:26.480
<v Speaker 4>last year the ratings did go up five percent for

0:23:26.520 --> 0:23:29.440
<v Speaker 4>the NFL, but a lot of that could be contributed

0:23:29.480 --> 0:23:32.520
<v Speaker 4>to the surprise of these teams and great players like

0:23:32.560 --> 0:23:37.040
<v Speaker 4>so example Kansas City, Right, nobody expected Mahomes to have

0:23:37.119 --> 0:23:40.040
<v Speaker 4>that type of season. So people watch, and you know

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<v Speaker 4>the Tom Brady story, right, can't he do it again?

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, game, the Super Bowl actually did go down ratings,

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<v Speaker 3>and some people are chieving it.

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<v Speaker 2>Super Bowl last year was one hundred and three million people.

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<v Speaker 2>That was a seven year low. Yeah, So fi year

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<v Speaker 2>was ninety eight million, Yeah, which was a low, eleven

0:27:00.640 --> 0:27:02.480
<v Speaker 2>year low in two thousand and eight.

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<v Speaker 3>So so some people attributing to that to the Kaepernick effect.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, we don't know, but probably it had something.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean people are on social media saying, look, we

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<v Speaker 4>stay with CAP, and I think we've taken that stance

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<v Speaker 4>that we stay with CAP. And it's nothing against anybody

0:27:18.119 --> 0:27:20.960
<v Speaker 4>who is in the armed forces, Like we love and

0:27:21.000 --> 0:27:24.680
<v Speaker 4>support our armed forces and understand that their job is honorable,

0:27:25.440 --> 0:27:27.560
<v Speaker 4>but we are we're looking at it from both sides.

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<v Speaker 2>So the armed forces, that's what this whole thing was

0:27:31.160 --> 0:27:33.480
<v Speaker 2>spun into, right, Yeah, he was he was just CAF

0:27:33.560 --> 0:27:38.119
<v Speaker 2>was protesting for police police brutality, and people were saying,

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<v Speaker 2>this is not patriot How do we get to this

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<v Speaker 2>point with no no, no legitimate question. How do we

0:27:44.920 --> 0:27:47.640
<v Speaker 2>get to this point with armed forces?

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<v Speaker 3>We're got So when we grew up watching NBA and NFL,

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<v Speaker 3>this we didn't think about this. This is not something

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<v Speaker 3>we thought about.

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<v Speaker 2>It's new.

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<v Speaker 3>It's a new thing. It's like, over the past ten years,

0:28:00.480 --> 0:28:00.960
<v Speaker 3>it's become a.

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<v Speaker 2>When we say the thing, people don't know the national

0:28:04.160 --> 0:28:09.879
<v Speaker 2>anthem played before a game and televised. Yeah, it's not

0:28:10.000 --> 0:28:11.280
<v Speaker 2>something that has always.

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<v Speaker 3>Happen, yeh.

0:28:11.800 --> 0:28:17.399
<v Speaker 4>So that started in two thousand and nine. Teams and

0:28:17.480 --> 0:28:21.200
<v Speaker 4>owners were saying, hey, we want to show signs of patriotism, right,

0:28:21.240 --> 0:28:23.000
<v Speaker 4>so how can we do that. Well, we'll come up

0:28:23.040 --> 0:28:25.080
<v Speaker 4>with a list of things we can do. We'll broadcast

0:28:25.080 --> 0:28:30.920
<v Speaker 4>a national anthem, we'll have flyovers, we'll have flags that

0:28:31.000 --> 0:28:33.640
<v Speaker 4>are field length, right, we'll have our players standing out

0:28:33.680 --> 0:28:36.119
<v Speaker 4>during the national anthem to show signs of patriots. And

0:28:36.160 --> 0:28:38.800
<v Speaker 4>they even start and people probably didn't realize this, but

0:28:38.840 --> 0:28:42.640
<v Speaker 4>they started to do surprise visits from troops who had

0:28:42.680 --> 0:28:46.160
<v Speaker 4>been overseas and they came home and surprised their families.

0:28:46.240 --> 0:28:50.280
<v Speaker 3>Little did people know that the Department of Defense was

0:28:50.320 --> 0:28:50.720
<v Speaker 3>paying for.

0:28:50.840 --> 0:28:56.160
<v Speaker 2>This, So plot twists. The Department of Defense paid the

0:28:56.280 --> 0:28:59.760
<v Speaker 2>NFL five point four million dollars between two thousand and

0:28:59.760 --> 0:29:04.080
<v Speaker 2>eleves in twenty fourteen. The National Guard paid six point

0:29:04.200 --> 0:29:08.920
<v Speaker 2>seven million between twenty and thirteen and twenty fifteen to

0:29:10.200 --> 0:29:16.160
<v Speaker 2>do these ceremonies, and it's in their budget as recruitment item.

0:29:17.080 --> 0:29:22.800
<v Speaker 2>So how did this all come about John McCain.

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<v Speaker 4>Ironically enough, so John and Senator Jeff Flake, both from

0:29:26.800 --> 0:29:27.360
<v Speaker 4>Jeff Flake.

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<v Speaker 2>But the reason why this is so ironic is that

0:29:30.480 --> 0:29:35.520
<v Speaker 2>John McCain rest in peace. He If you don't know

0:29:35.560 --> 0:29:37.640
<v Speaker 2>his story, obviously you probably heard of him, right. He

0:29:37.680 --> 0:29:40.400
<v Speaker 2>was a senator, he ran for president, he lost, but

0:29:40.480 --> 0:29:43.440
<v Speaker 2>he was also a pow for I think like seven

0:29:43.520 --> 0:29:48.000
<v Speaker 2>years in Vietnam and he broke his arms. They torched

0:29:48.080 --> 0:29:51.040
<v Speaker 2>him severe, right, So he came home and he became

0:29:52.280 --> 0:29:55.000
<v Speaker 2>endured by the public because he didn't he didn't he

0:29:55.040 --> 0:29:57.160
<v Speaker 2>didn't fold because they could have let him go because

0:29:57.200 --> 0:30:01.080
<v Speaker 2>John McCain's father, I think, was a politician, very powerful man,

0:30:01.480 --> 0:30:05.480
<v Speaker 2>and they actually offered him his freedom, but he said

0:30:05.520 --> 0:30:09.240
<v Speaker 2>he wouldn't go. Until all of his comrades were free. So,

0:30:09.840 --> 0:30:14.640
<v Speaker 2>long story short, John McCain is a war hero, right,

0:30:15.080 --> 0:30:18.680
<v Speaker 2>so he looks into this, him and Senator Jeff Flake,

0:30:18.680 --> 0:30:24.360
<v Speaker 2>who are both Republican senators, and they find paid patriotism.

0:30:25.840 --> 0:30:29.320
<v Speaker 2>So he is offended by this, right because he feels

0:30:29.400 --> 0:30:35.560
<v Speaker 2>that you can't pay for patriotism. You can't pay under

0:30:35.600 --> 0:30:39.440
<v Speaker 2>the gaze of this is just being done out of

0:30:39.480 --> 0:30:40.760
<v Speaker 2>the goodness of our hearts.

0:30:41.360 --> 0:30:43.160
<v Speaker 3>Where we are patriot that's why we're doing this.

0:30:43.320 --> 0:30:49.400
<v Speaker 2>You're paying NFL owners as a recruitment tool to recruit

0:30:49.520 --> 0:30:50.480
<v Speaker 2>to the armed services.

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<v Speaker 4>So a part of it is that they didn't only

0:30:53.800 --> 0:30:57.600
<v Speaker 4>play the NFL. They paid the NBA, they paid soccer

0:30:58.440 --> 0:31:00.920
<v Speaker 4>and Major League Baseball. But out of that budget, right,

0:31:00.920 --> 0:31:03.440
<v Speaker 4>So I think maybe six point nine they did in

0:31:03.440 --> 0:31:07.240
<v Speaker 4>twenty fifteen, six point one million of that six point

0:31:07.280 --> 0:31:09.280
<v Speaker 4>nine million went to the NFL, and they didn't even

0:31:09.280 --> 0:31:11.240
<v Speaker 4>go to all teams. It just went to the top

0:31:12.280 --> 0:31:15.560
<v Speaker 4>sixteen highest rated teams. So like the Giants, the Jets,

0:31:15.600 --> 0:31:17.840
<v Speaker 4>the Patriots, Washington.

0:31:18.160 --> 0:31:21.440
<v Speaker 2>It was so when they looked, so John McCain and

0:31:21.520 --> 0:31:23.480
<v Speaker 2>Jeff Flake look into it, right, and they find out

0:31:23.520 --> 0:31:26.200
<v Speaker 2>that there's one hundred and twenty two contracts between the

0:31:26.240 --> 0:31:32.320
<v Speaker 2>Pentagon and sports leagues that nobody knew about exactly. They

0:31:32.320 --> 0:31:36.360
<v Speaker 2>didn't make this public, They just found it. So when

0:31:36.360 --> 0:31:39.160
<v Speaker 2>they found out about it, they feel they need to

0:31:39.160 --> 0:31:41.520
<v Speaker 2>make it public. Right, so they have a whole investigation.

0:31:42.120 --> 0:31:45.920
<v Speaker 2>The pay patriotism thing comes up. John McCain vows to

0:31:46.040 --> 0:31:50.600
<v Speaker 2>change it. He doesn't because it doesn't change, but it's

0:31:50.640 --> 0:31:53.600
<v Speaker 2>still something that not a lot of people are fully

0:31:53.600 --> 0:31:57.800
<v Speaker 2>aware of. Ironically enough, the year that John McCain and

0:31:57.880 --> 0:32:03.000
<v Speaker 2>Jeff Flake made this investigation was twenty.

0:32:02.560 --> 0:32:05.320
<v Speaker 3>And sixteen, twenty fifteen, fifteen, next year.

0:32:05.440 --> 0:32:08.160
<v Speaker 2>And then the next year Colin Kaepernick starts to kneel

0:32:08.400 --> 0:32:09.240
<v Speaker 2>twenty sixteen.

0:32:09.280 --> 0:32:12.280
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, so players weren't even required to come out before

0:32:12.320 --> 0:32:15.120
<v Speaker 3>two thousand and nine. They stayed in the locker room

0:32:15.240 --> 0:32:16.280
<v Speaker 3>during the national anthem.

0:32:16.480 --> 0:32:19.600
<v Speaker 4>It wasn't televised, but once the NFL realized that, hey,

0:32:19.800 --> 0:32:22.040
<v Speaker 4>people want to see this, they started charging.

0:32:22.480 --> 0:32:25.720
<v Speaker 3>They started charging ad dollars. So like it always comes right,

0:32:25.760 --> 0:32:30.360
<v Speaker 3>So is it is it patriotism or is it capitalism? Right? Right?

0:32:30.400 --> 0:32:31.600
<v Speaker 2>So paid patriotism?

0:32:31.720 --> 0:32:31.800
<v Speaker 3>Right?

0:32:31.880 --> 0:32:36.200
<v Speaker 4>If I could have broadcasting dollars like people paying for

0:32:36.280 --> 0:32:39.280
<v Speaker 4>ads and commercials, am I going to show the national anthem.

0:32:39.480 --> 0:32:42.400
<v Speaker 3>No, but if the federal government pays me more than

0:32:42.440 --> 0:32:44.360
<v Speaker 3>the commercials do, then I'll show it. Right.

0:32:44.440 --> 0:32:48.880
<v Speaker 4>So then people were an uproar, Hey, this guy is

0:32:48.960 --> 0:32:52.240
<v Speaker 4>kneeling during during the national anthem. Yeah, but ten years

0:32:52.440 --> 0:32:55.040
<v Speaker 4>even three years prior, guys were in the locker room.

0:32:55.040 --> 0:32:56.760
<v Speaker 4>Who knew what they were doing? Who knows what they

0:32:56.760 --> 0:32:57.880
<v Speaker 4>were doing in the locker room?

0:32:57.960 --> 0:32:59.800
<v Speaker 2>Well, the thing and this is why. So this is

0:32:59.800 --> 0:33:02.080
<v Speaker 2>the thing, the whole theme behind our show. Right, So

0:33:02.320 --> 0:33:05.480
<v Speaker 2>we look at sports, entertainment and business, but we look

0:33:05.480 --> 0:33:08.840
<v Speaker 2>at the backstory because it always comes back to the money. Always,

0:33:09.120 --> 0:33:11.840
<v Speaker 2>it always comes back to the money somehow. Right, So

0:33:12.480 --> 0:33:18.040
<v Speaker 2>all of this was done because the NFL was paid

0:33:18.520 --> 0:33:19.520
<v Speaker 2>to do this.

0:33:19.680 --> 0:33:22.040
<v Speaker 3>And that it was part of our fabric.

0:33:22.160 --> 0:33:25.440
<v Speaker 4>Now now every game we watch the flag and again

0:33:25.840 --> 0:33:29.680
<v Speaker 4>it's nothing against our forces or military we love and support.

0:33:29.920 --> 0:33:31.280
<v Speaker 2>But and I'm not and I want to make this

0:33:31.360 --> 0:33:34.080
<v Speaker 2>clear too, I'm not saying that you shouldn't stand up

0:33:34.080 --> 0:33:35.880
<v Speaker 2>for the national anthem or you should stand up for

0:33:35.880 --> 0:33:37.880
<v Speaker 2>the national anthem. Everybody's entitled to do what they want.

0:33:37.920 --> 0:33:40.480
<v Speaker 2>We live, we live in a free country. But the

0:33:40.560 --> 0:33:44.360
<v Speaker 2>thing about it is, don't act like something is done

0:33:44.480 --> 0:33:46.680
<v Speaker 2>out of the goodness of your heart when you're getting

0:33:46.680 --> 0:33:51.200
<v Speaker 2>paid to do it. Marshall Lynch. Marshall Lynch, he said,

0:33:51.680 --> 0:33:54.600
<v Speaker 2>he said he never stood and they just realized this

0:33:55.720 --> 0:33:58.200
<v Speaker 2>two years ago. He said, I haven't stood in ten years.

0:33:59.040 --> 0:34:01.719
<v Speaker 4>It was because it wasn't a like, nobody paid attention

0:34:01.760 --> 0:34:05.800
<v Speaker 4>to it until one guy will two him and Eric

0:34:05.840 --> 0:34:09.160
<v Speaker 4>Reid decide that listen, we're gonna do a peaceful process

0:34:09.760 --> 0:34:12.319
<v Speaker 4>and look at the backlash from that.

0:34:13.120 --> 0:34:17.800
<v Speaker 2>Hmm, well yeah, do you have it, ladies.

0:34:17.560 --> 0:34:19.360
<v Speaker 3>And gentlemen, patriotism of capitalism?

0:34:19.440 --> 0:34:24.960
<v Speaker 2>You choose, all right, our last topic of discussions, hot topic.

0:34:25.160 --> 0:34:27.960
<v Speaker 2>We're going to fashion. We're going to fashion. We're going

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<v Speaker 2>to high end fashion. Gucci, Montclair. But we'll start with Gucci. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>if you haven't been under the rock for the last

0:34:39.560 --> 0:34:42.200
<v Speaker 2>week and a half, you know that Gucci is in

0:34:42.520 --> 0:34:46.960
<v Speaker 2>deep water right now because they made a hurtleneck that

0:34:47.640 --> 0:34:50.640
<v Speaker 2>it's like a black face thing. It turns up and

0:34:50.680 --> 0:34:53.640
<v Speaker 2>it has red lips. I'm sure you've probably seen it.

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<v Speaker 2>You know what I'm talking about. Okay, Then Montclair as

0:35:01.080 --> 0:35:05.200
<v Speaker 2>a Samball jacket, Yeah, you know what.

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<v Speaker 4>My clare is so disturbing. Last year they went in

0:35:08.520 --> 0:35:11.840
<v Speaker 4>the news for having the black face patch on the

0:35:11.880 --> 0:35:15.879
<v Speaker 4>sweatshirt last year. Okay, twenty eighteen. This year they said,

0:35:15.880 --> 0:35:18.560
<v Speaker 4>you know what will top it. We're gonna put black

0:35:18.600 --> 0:35:22.279
<v Speaker 4>faces all over a bubble jacket and put it out

0:35:22.400 --> 0:35:22.880
<v Speaker 4>for retail.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay. Then Birdberry decides is a good idea to have

0:35:29.280 --> 0:35:32.080
<v Speaker 2>a hoodie with a noisance on it.

0:35:32.920 --> 0:35:37.080
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, they're calling it the Nautical the nautical hoodie.

0:35:36.880 --> 0:35:39.080
<v Speaker 2>Oh man. And then Proud of did something.

0:35:39.440 --> 0:35:42.520
<v Speaker 4>Pride had the monkey pendants in the window and they

0:35:42.520 --> 0:35:43.359
<v Speaker 4>were putting on their bag.

0:35:43.440 --> 0:35:45.759
<v Speaker 3>It had a big monkey displays having right.

0:35:45.840 --> 0:35:48.440
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, al sharpedon came the whole big thing.

0:35:48.560 --> 0:35:50.399
<v Speaker 3>Yeah. Prior to that, we had H and M.

0:35:50.960 --> 0:35:54.200
<v Speaker 2>H and M had the coolest monkey in the junk

0:35:54.760 --> 0:35:56.640
<v Speaker 2>with a black kid wearing.

0:35:56.440 --> 0:35:58.120
<v Speaker 3>It, and they thought that was a good idea.

0:36:00.120 --> 0:36:03.719
<v Speaker 2>Okay, So obviously this isn't a coincidence. Right, they're doing

0:36:03.719 --> 0:36:06.720
<v Speaker 2>this on purpose. So why are they doing it on purpose?

0:36:06.719 --> 0:36:08.640
<v Speaker 2>There's a lot of different theories. There's a thing called

0:36:08.719 --> 0:36:13.200
<v Speaker 2>outrage marketing. I don't know if anybody's familiar with outrage marketing,

0:36:13.280 --> 0:36:15.400
<v Speaker 2>but that's pretty much you can kind of guess what

0:36:15.400 --> 0:36:17.719
<v Speaker 2>it is by the name where you just shock value. Right,

0:36:17.760 --> 0:36:20.120
<v Speaker 2>any publicity is good publicity. You just do crazy stuff,

0:36:20.320 --> 0:36:22.000
<v Speaker 2>you get your name out there, you get some backlash,

0:36:22.040 --> 0:36:25.200
<v Speaker 2>you apology, apologize, but it doesn't really hurt your brand,

0:36:25.840 --> 0:36:27.560
<v Speaker 2>and it hasn't really hurt their brand. Yeah, I mean

0:36:27.760 --> 0:36:29.239
<v Speaker 2>these companies brands because.

0:36:29.120 --> 0:36:29.480
<v Speaker 3>H and M.

0:36:29.560 --> 0:36:31.600
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, H and M and eight last year April they

0:36:31.600 --> 0:36:36.279
<v Speaker 4>put out the coolest monkey sweatshirt and they saw a decline, temporary,

0:36:36.320 --> 0:36:39.800
<v Speaker 4>temporary client for two months, but they're twenty eighteen. Retail

0:36:39.840 --> 0:36:42.759
<v Speaker 4>sales were up five percent, so people still supporting a

0:36:42.840 --> 0:36:47.680
<v Speaker 4>brand that they were temporary outraged and people wanted answers,

0:36:47.920 --> 0:36:51.799
<v Speaker 4>and then people realize, you know what, these clothes are affordable.

0:36:52.239 --> 0:36:52.960
<v Speaker 3>Son, buy it.

0:36:53.120 --> 0:36:57.319
<v Speaker 2>We live in a disposable society, right, And people lack discipline,

0:36:57.520 --> 0:37:01.040
<v Speaker 2>so it boycott for a week and then they just

0:37:01.040 --> 0:37:05.000
<v Speaker 2>forget about it because something else comes about. So is

0:37:05.040 --> 0:37:10.400
<v Speaker 2>that why these companies are doing this? Because as I said,

0:37:10.640 --> 0:37:11.880
<v Speaker 2>I don't think it's a coincidence.

0:37:12.080 --> 0:37:13.880
<v Speaker 3>How many times can we be slapping it and it's.

0:37:13.760 --> 0:37:16.520
<v Speaker 2>All high end fashion brands or H and M is

0:37:16.520 --> 0:37:21.120
<v Speaker 2>a high end fashion brand, but so Gucci and Prada

0:37:21.480 --> 0:37:25.000
<v Speaker 2>Prada and Montclair and Birdberry. So now they're saying that, Okay,

0:37:25.000 --> 0:37:27.920
<v Speaker 2>it's a boycott on Gucci, right, I'm not apposed to that.

0:37:28.400 --> 0:37:32.000
<v Speaker 2>But Gucci is actually owned by a larger corporation, right,

0:37:32.120 --> 0:37:34.640
<v Speaker 2>the curring group, I believe it's called UH and they

0:37:34.680 --> 0:37:39.879
<v Speaker 2>own YSL, Balenciaga, Alexander McQueen, Gucci other brands as well.

0:37:40.120 --> 0:37:43.319
<v Speaker 2>So are you boycotting all of these brands as well?

0:37:43.360 --> 0:37:45.000
<v Speaker 3>Why are we wearing these brands.

0:37:45.000 --> 0:37:48.680
<v Speaker 2>To begin with? To begin with? Why are we wearing

0:37:48.680 --> 0:37:52.680
<v Speaker 2>these brands? Right? We love Tia one of my favorite rappers.

0:37:53.160 --> 0:37:55.640
<v Speaker 3>You're gonna You're gonna hold that forever. I'm never gonna

0:37:55.719 --> 0:37:55.880
<v Speaker 3>let you.

0:37:56.040 --> 0:37:56.719
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

0:37:56.280 --> 0:37:56.440
<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

0:37:56.760 --> 0:37:59.400
<v Speaker 2>In the South, I wasn't a big fan of Southern

0:37:59.480 --> 0:38:02.319
<v Speaker 2>hip hop music. I know we got a lot of

0:38:02.320 --> 0:38:05.080
<v Speaker 2>listeners in the South. I love the South, Atlanta, Florida.

0:38:05.560 --> 0:38:07.680
<v Speaker 3>We had that debate. I was a guy.

0:38:07.760 --> 0:38:10.680
<v Speaker 2>I love the South, but I wasn't huge on the

0:38:10.719 --> 0:38:15.239
<v Speaker 2>South hip hop until Ti. Because t I had, he

0:38:15.280 --> 0:38:19.520
<v Speaker 2>had swagy. I can relate to him and his lyrics.

0:38:19.560 --> 0:38:22.239
<v Speaker 2>He was a good lyricist, dope. I just like him.

0:38:22.320 --> 0:38:25.200
<v Speaker 3>I still like him, but I.

0:38:25.200 --> 0:38:28.480
<v Speaker 2>Don't understand when he so he calls for a boycott,

0:38:28.640 --> 0:38:32.000
<v Speaker 2>and then he starts out his paragraph was saying, I'm

0:38:32.040 --> 0:38:37.680
<v Speaker 2>a seventh figure year customer. It's interesting because you have

0:38:37.719 --> 0:38:41.000
<v Speaker 2>a clothing line, yeah cool, which stands for a king

0:38:41.040 --> 0:38:44.400
<v Speaker 2>of oneself. You have a clothing line that stands that

0:38:44.840 --> 0:38:49.640
<v Speaker 2>the Akroman is a king of oneself, and you spend

0:38:49.960 --> 0:38:51.960
<v Speaker 2>seven figures a year with.

0:38:52.000 --> 0:38:54.680
<v Speaker 3>Gucci, another brand, Like I see it.

0:38:54.760 --> 0:38:58.080
<v Speaker 4>When you see these people outside, you would think, hey, heaby,

0:38:58.160 --> 0:39:00.680
<v Speaker 4>once in a while, I would sprinkle my own clothes on,

0:39:00.800 --> 0:39:02.719
<v Speaker 4>if not all the time, to promote.

0:39:02.360 --> 0:39:03.000
<v Speaker 3>My own brand.

0:39:03.960 --> 0:39:04.640
<v Speaker 2>It's confusing.

0:39:04.719 --> 0:39:06.840
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, let's let's let's spend a million dollars.

0:39:07.080 --> 0:39:09.439
<v Speaker 4>It's very confusal in his comments, like look, why don't

0:39:09.480 --> 0:39:11.600
<v Speaker 4>you spend that million dollars trying to help another brand

0:39:11.760 --> 0:39:13.880
<v Speaker 4>get off the ground or put it in your own brand.

0:39:14.960 --> 0:39:17.200
<v Speaker 2>I don't understand that. Yeah, And like I said, I

0:39:17.200 --> 0:39:20.080
<v Speaker 2>don't want to Bashti. I liked, I actually likes one

0:39:20.080 --> 0:39:22.799
<v Speaker 2>of one of the best. But I didn't understand that.

0:39:22.840 --> 0:39:25.600
<v Speaker 2>And I didn't understand a three month boycott. I don't

0:39:25.640 --> 0:39:29.240
<v Speaker 2>understand what do we do after the average person maybe

0:39:29.280 --> 0:39:34.120
<v Speaker 2>has one Gucci item, if that two, they buy a

0:39:34.120 --> 0:39:37.520
<v Speaker 2>Gucci item once every five years. It's not like you're

0:39:37.520 --> 0:39:40.080
<v Speaker 2>going grocery shopping. I think celebrities a lot of times

0:39:40.120 --> 0:39:42.560
<v Speaker 2>that I touch your reality three months it's like, you know,

0:39:42.840 --> 0:39:45.279
<v Speaker 2>you're not going to shop write or A and P.

0:39:46.440 --> 0:39:48.400
<v Speaker 3>Like that's what I'm saying, like the celebrities. So Future

0:39:48.800 --> 0:39:52.440
<v Speaker 3>said that he spends three three hundred thousand dollars a

0:39:52.480 --> 0:39:55.200
<v Speaker 3>month on clothing, Like what what are you buying?

0:39:56.080 --> 0:39:57.920
<v Speaker 2>Why are you spending money on clothes when you can

0:39:57.920 --> 0:39:58.640
<v Speaker 2>get stuff.

0:39:58.400 --> 0:40:00.719
<v Speaker 3>For free exactly or create your own.

0:40:01.320 --> 0:40:06.440
<v Speaker 2>Okay, So this is a pretty disturbing issue, right.

0:40:06.680 --> 0:40:08.520
<v Speaker 4>And one one of the other things that they were

0:40:08.560 --> 0:40:11.680
<v Speaker 4>saying is that you know what these mistakes quote unquote

0:40:11.920 --> 0:40:14.560
<v Speaker 4>are happening because we're not represented at the top of

0:40:14.640 --> 0:40:17.600
<v Speaker 4>the creative chain when it comes to these high end

0:40:17.680 --> 0:40:21.400
<v Speaker 4>fashion right. But well, that's true, that that is true,

0:40:21.480 --> 0:40:27.600
<v Speaker 4>and we've recently seen Virgil take over at Louis Vaton.

0:40:27.760 --> 0:40:30.960
<v Speaker 2>So but how many times are you gonna Okay, if

0:40:31.000 --> 0:40:36.719
<v Speaker 2>I come into your house, right, I can't tell you

0:40:37.560 --> 0:40:41.000
<v Speaker 2>to feed me, to give me a blanket. You can

0:40:41.040 --> 0:40:44.160
<v Speaker 2>give me that if you want to, Like, you don't

0:40:44.239 --> 0:40:47.400
<v Speaker 2>have to treat me good. It's your house, right, Like

0:40:47.480 --> 0:40:51.200
<v Speaker 2>how many times can we demand somebody to treat us

0:40:51.440 --> 0:40:55.360
<v Speaker 2>appropriately instead of treating ourselves appropriate?

0:40:55.880 --> 0:40:57.879
<v Speaker 3>That so dap Dan, who is one of to create

0:40:57.920 --> 0:41:00.920
<v Speaker 3>directors at Gucci, like he is outraged by it.

0:41:01.000 --> 0:41:03.399
<v Speaker 4>Obviously he should and that Beudan's a legend for those

0:41:03.400 --> 0:41:07.560
<v Speaker 4>who don't know him, and he had to head the

0:41:07.600 --> 0:41:10.480
<v Speaker 4>CEO Gucci come to hallm to talk about the issues

0:41:10.480 --> 0:41:12.359
<v Speaker 4>that he's facing and demanded some action.

0:41:12.520 --> 0:41:13.239
<v Speaker 2>What is that going to do?

0:41:15.200 --> 0:41:19.080
<v Speaker 3>Like, yeah, I love that, but it sounded good to

0:41:19.120 --> 0:41:20.279
<v Speaker 3>kind of harlem and talk to.

0:41:20.840 --> 0:41:24.200
<v Speaker 2>Who can't who cares. And the thing about it is

0:41:24.200 --> 0:41:26.080
<v Speaker 2>the reason why the TI I think is interesting is

0:41:26.200 --> 0:41:30.360
<v Speaker 2>Dad he by him saying he spends seven figures a

0:41:30.440 --> 0:41:32.600
<v Speaker 2>year on Gucci, It's not just saying that he spends

0:41:32.640 --> 0:41:34.840
<v Speaker 2>seven figures a yeah, Gucci brings up a larger issue

0:41:34.880 --> 0:41:41.520
<v Speaker 2>right where athletes, entertainers, rappers specifically rappers have given free

0:41:41.680 --> 0:41:46.040
<v Speaker 2>endorsements for years and companies have waked the benefits of it,

0:41:47.360 --> 0:41:50.520
<v Speaker 2>and they never they don't pay these people to do that. Right,

0:41:50.680 --> 0:41:53.080
<v Speaker 2>It's a status symbol and you feel that you're you know,

0:41:53.480 --> 0:41:56.319
<v Speaker 2>you're above somebody else by saying that you're wearing these

0:41:56.360 --> 0:41:57.800
<v Speaker 2>things or you're driving these cars.

0:41:58.800 --> 0:42:00.440
<v Speaker 3>I have made it to a certain Chris.

0:42:00.640 --> 0:42:05.240
<v Speaker 2>Remember Christal. Christal was a little known champagne brand for years,

0:42:06.239 --> 0:42:10.279
<v Speaker 2>and somehow I don't Big. I think Big was the

0:42:10.320 --> 0:42:14.319
<v Speaker 2>first one that championed Christal for some reason, I don't know.

0:42:14.600 --> 0:42:16.360
<v Speaker 2>He was also the first one to find Jacob to

0:42:16.400 --> 0:42:17.239
<v Speaker 2>Jewels a different story.

0:42:17.320 --> 0:42:19.279
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, but so I mean he's champion it because it

0:42:19.280 --> 0:42:20.440
<v Speaker 3>was the most expensive thing.

0:42:20.640 --> 0:42:23.160
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but it was weird that he just found it randomly.

0:42:23.360 --> 0:42:25.120
<v Speaker 3>I'm sure like maybe somebody in it.

0:42:25.200 --> 0:42:27.960
<v Speaker 2>So they had gold bottles, that was So he starts

0:42:27.960 --> 0:42:31.120
<v Speaker 2>talking about Christal, and then jay Z starts to champion it,

0:42:32.160 --> 0:42:34.879
<v Speaker 2>and then it just goes crazy. Every rapper has gold

0:42:34.880 --> 0:42:38.960
<v Speaker 2>bottles Chrystal, and their sales went up. Don't quote me

0:42:39.000 --> 0:42:40.880
<v Speaker 2>on this, but it went up like three hundred percent

0:42:40.880 --> 0:42:43.480
<v Speaker 2>in the cost of a five year timeframe, directly related

0:42:43.480 --> 0:42:47.240
<v Speaker 2>to rappers. There's no argument about it. Then the CEO

0:42:47.320 --> 0:42:51.120
<v Speaker 2>of the company says he doesn't want to be associated

0:42:51.239 --> 0:42:52.719
<v Speaker 2>with those kind of people.

0:42:52.640 --> 0:42:56.200
<v Speaker 3>Right, So what Then Jay comes out with the lyrics

0:42:56.719 --> 0:42:57.279
<v Speaker 3>I used to drink.

0:42:58.960 --> 0:43:02.479
<v Speaker 2>Then it's a band on Chris. Okay, so we've seen

0:43:02.480 --> 0:43:06.120
<v Speaker 2>this play before, absolutely, and so it didn't staying alone

0:43:06.120 --> 0:43:08.720
<v Speaker 2>with Jay Z. Were talked about jay a lot because

0:43:08.760 --> 0:43:15.080
<v Speaker 2>he's a cultural icon and very important person. So remember Iceberg,

0:43:16.400 --> 0:43:19.680
<v Speaker 2>Iceberg man. That was. That was late nineties, late nineties,

0:43:20.040 --> 0:43:24.480
<v Speaker 2>Iceberg man iconic. When I was in high school, if

0:43:24.520 --> 0:43:30.120
<v Speaker 2>you had an Iceberg sweater, you were elite, elite level.

0:43:30.360 --> 0:43:34.279
<v Speaker 4>So Iceberg had the cartoon they had like Snoopy Snoopy?

0:43:34.840 --> 0:43:37.239
<v Speaker 2>Did they license that? They had to get that license, right,

0:43:37.320 --> 0:43:40.160
<v Speaker 2>Mickey Mouse Snoop. But those sweaters are like three hundred,

0:43:40.239 --> 0:43:42.200
<v Speaker 2>five hundred dollars. It was Cougie and Iceberg.

0:43:42.680 --> 0:43:43.640
<v Speaker 3>Iceberg was crazy.

0:43:43.680 --> 0:43:46.880
<v Speaker 2>Iceberg was the shirts with two jay Z all he

0:43:46.920 --> 0:43:48.560
<v Speaker 2>was wearing was Iceberg. He had let me have the

0:43:48.560 --> 0:43:50.640
<v Speaker 2>lines that Iceberg e spress with IV on the elastic,

0:43:51.719 --> 0:43:55.680
<v Speaker 2>So everybody wanted Iceberg. Jay Z was talking about Iceberg

0:43:55.840 --> 0:43:59.480
<v Speaker 2>in every lyric. So you figure, Okay, we're spending so

0:43:59.600 --> 0:44:02.440
<v Speaker 2>much money, we're talking about it.

0:44:02.520 --> 0:44:03.399
<v Speaker 3>Let's go talk to these guys.

0:44:03.400 --> 0:44:05.279
<v Speaker 2>Why don't we try to get endorsement deal, Let's have

0:44:05.320 --> 0:44:07.120
<v Speaker 2>a meeting with them. So him and Dame go to

0:44:07.160 --> 0:44:11.640
<v Speaker 2>Iceberg and they try to get an endorsement, and they

0:44:11.680 --> 0:44:14.160
<v Speaker 2>say no, thank you. When we don't make these clothes

0:44:15.360 --> 0:44:19.320
<v Speaker 2>not interested, not interested, but that note.

0:44:19.200 --> 0:44:21.680
<v Speaker 3>Turns into something extremely profitable.

0:44:22.560 --> 0:44:27.719
<v Speaker 2>Yes, so they say no, and they decide to do

0:44:27.760 --> 0:44:31.160
<v Speaker 2>their own thing and make a clothing brand called Rockaware

0:44:32.960 --> 0:44:37.440
<v Speaker 2>based off of Rockefeller Records. Rockaware. Right, So now they

0:44:37.480 --> 0:44:40.080
<v Speaker 2>get the bright idea to start Rockawaar, which they probably

0:44:40.080 --> 0:44:42.399
<v Speaker 2>should have done from the beginning, but better late than ever.

0:44:42.920 --> 0:44:43.799
<v Speaker 3>Rockaway eight mil.

0:44:44.120 --> 0:44:48.319
<v Speaker 2>Eighteen months, yes, eight years later from the exception date.

0:44:48.360 --> 0:44:51.120
<v Speaker 2>They sell Rockaway for two hundred and four million dollars.

0:44:52.320 --> 0:44:55.040
<v Speaker 2>You see what happens when you when you stop asking

0:44:55.160 --> 0:44:57.240
<v Speaker 2>people for something and you do something for yourself.

0:44:57.280 --> 0:44:59.280
<v Speaker 3>And that same time what happens to Iceberg.

0:44:58.920 --> 0:45:02.880
<v Speaker 2>Though, fell off the cliff of the earth, disappeared for

0:45:03.320 --> 0:45:04.280
<v Speaker 2>they make it a research.

0:45:04.360 --> 0:45:06.520
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, they're coming back now, but they disappear for fifteen

0:45:06.520 --> 0:45:07.280
<v Speaker 3>to twenty years.

0:45:07.800 --> 0:45:10.360
<v Speaker 2>Why disappear because the raptors stopped talking about them.

0:45:10.560 --> 0:45:13.080
<v Speaker 3>We don't have we don't want you, thank you, We'll

0:45:13.120 --> 0:45:13.400
<v Speaker 3>move on.

0:45:13.640 --> 0:45:16.759
<v Speaker 2>So I don't understand why this is such a hard

0:45:16.840 --> 0:45:21.359
<v Speaker 2>concept to understand. That's a perfect case study. They blew

0:45:21.440 --> 0:45:25.640
<v Speaker 2>up Iceberg. They approached Iceberg for Iceberg says no, They

0:45:25.640 --> 0:45:28.040
<v Speaker 2>start their own company. Iceberg falls off the cliff of

0:45:28.040 --> 0:45:30.160
<v Speaker 2>the earth. Their company that they start, they sell for

0:45:30.200 --> 0:45:31.280
<v Speaker 2>a quarter billion dollars.

0:45:31.120 --> 0:45:32.240
<v Speaker 3>In eight years.

0:45:33.040 --> 0:45:34.359
<v Speaker 4>I mean they did that with the look or too,

0:45:34.360 --> 0:45:36.680
<v Speaker 4>so like they did Crystal and that turned into Armadale

0:45:36.719 --> 0:45:41.239
<v Speaker 4>and that turned into a space saying, so I mean, alright, cool,

0:45:41.400 --> 0:45:43.000
<v Speaker 4>you don't want us to drink your stuff, We'll make

0:45:43.000 --> 0:45:43.239
<v Speaker 4>a home.

0:45:46.320 --> 0:45:47.560
<v Speaker 2>When will we learn when?

0:45:48.040 --> 0:45:51.239
<v Speaker 4>I don't know, I don't know. Can we just on

0:45:51.560 --> 0:45:56.160
<v Speaker 4>burbery burbery really quickly? So the new hoodie is like

0:45:56.760 --> 0:46:00.640
<v Speaker 4>if you've seen a new hoodie, like there's no purpose, right.

0:46:00.840 --> 0:46:04.399
<v Speaker 4>So the creative director at Birdbury is now with Carlo

0:46:04.480 --> 0:46:08.680
<v Speaker 4>Tucci and he's been like known for in the fashion

0:46:08.680 --> 0:46:10.839
<v Speaker 4>world for many years. He was the creative director at

0:46:11.120 --> 0:46:13.600
<v Speaker 4>Givanci and Jay said his.

0:46:13.600 --> 0:46:14.760
<v Speaker 2>Name in the song too Ricardo.

0:46:17.880 --> 0:46:22.040
<v Speaker 3>So my thing is like, yes, is he from our culture? No?

0:46:22.200 --> 0:46:25.080
<v Speaker 3>But has he been around it enough? Absolutely right. He

0:46:25.600 --> 0:46:28.799
<v Speaker 3>collaborated with Kanye to do the Watch Thrown album cover.

0:46:28.920 --> 0:46:31.879
<v Speaker 3>He did the What's the album? What's the label?

0:46:31.920 --> 0:46:34.400
<v Speaker 4>He had music when they put out their Cruise Summer

0:46:34.600 --> 0:46:36.879
<v Speaker 4>he did the cover with him. He's collaborated with Jay

0:46:36.920 --> 0:46:40.040
<v Speaker 4>and Beyonce for their tours. Same thing with Rihanna. So

0:46:40.080 --> 0:46:43.560
<v Speaker 4>he's been around the culture enough. There's no reasonable explanation

0:46:43.719 --> 0:46:46.600
<v Speaker 4>why you would be the creative director. You saw that

0:46:46.640 --> 0:46:50.000
<v Speaker 4>this design was coming down the line, and you pressed, okay, not.

0:46:50.040 --> 0:46:52.440
<v Speaker 2>The worst part. The worst part that they apologized, and

0:46:52.440 --> 0:46:56.600
<v Speaker 2>in the apology they apologize suicide, suicide. We're sensitive about

0:46:56.600 --> 0:46:57.080
<v Speaker 2>the suicide.

0:46:57.160 --> 0:46:58.359
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, no, we're not.

0:46:58.480 --> 0:47:04.719
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, But and then they say racial insensitivity, it's not

0:47:04.760 --> 0:47:08.600
<v Speaker 2>something to be joked. Thousands of black people were lynched

0:47:08.920 --> 0:47:14.040
<v Speaker 2>in the South over one hundred years. It's not racial insensitivity,

0:47:14.120 --> 0:47:17.600
<v Speaker 2>it's lynching. They don't even apologize for that aspect yet.

0:47:17.680 --> 0:47:20.439
<v Speaker 4>Well they I think that one of the models apologized

0:47:20.560 --> 0:47:22.560
<v Speaker 4>and they cut her quote a little bit, so she

0:47:22.640 --> 0:47:25.080
<v Speaker 4>did apologize. I mean, one of the models who was

0:47:25.080 --> 0:47:27.759
<v Speaker 4>in the show did not want it them to do this, right,

0:47:27.760 --> 0:47:31.440
<v Speaker 4>She was like, listen, don't don't do this. This is ridiculous.

0:47:31.440 --> 0:47:33.839
<v Speaker 4>You shouldn't walk down the runway with this. And they

0:47:33.880 --> 0:47:35.600
<v Speaker 4>went ahead and did it anyway, And then that was

0:47:35.640 --> 0:47:38.319
<v Speaker 4>part of her apology. That's suicide is not something that

0:47:38.360 --> 0:47:41.919
<v Speaker 4>we should joke with. And then the racial sensitivity, but again,

0:47:42.080 --> 0:47:44.600
<v Speaker 4>like who okay that to go down your runway?

0:47:44.880 --> 0:47:48.280
<v Speaker 2>You know what it doesn't even matter who cares. Stop

0:47:48.280 --> 0:47:52.960
<v Speaker 2>supporting it, yeah, or just take it. But I'm not

0:47:53.080 --> 0:47:55.080
<v Speaker 2>asking for an apology. Somebody don't know how to treat me.

0:47:55.080 --> 0:47:58.720
<v Speaker 2>I'm asking for them to apologize to me. They've already

0:47:58.719 --> 0:47:59.600
<v Speaker 2>showed me who they are.

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<v Speaker 4>I believe them when they show you who you are.

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<v Speaker 4>When somebody shows you who they are, you should believe them.

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<v Speaker 2>Save your apology. I'm good, all right, Okay, guys, thank

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<v Speaker 2>you for rocking with us. That is the end. But

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<v Speaker 2>before we leave, we want to announce some exciting news

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<v Speaker 2>we got. All you guys been asking about YouTube. It's here.

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<v Speaker 2>We are on YouTube now. I will be posting the link.

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<v Speaker 2>We will be posting a link on our page. I'll

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<v Speaker 2>post a link on my personal page. We already have

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<v Speaker 2>the YouTube channel. Earn your Leisure is YouTube. You can

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<v Speaker 2>go on. Please subscribe, Please subscribe, And then we will

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<v Speaker 2>have other stuff that we have coming down the pipeline

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<v Speaker 2>as well.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, we got some cool things coming down the way.

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<v Speaker 4>And before we go on this episode, I would be

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<v Speaker 4>remissed if we didn't wish you a happy birthday.

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<v Speaker 3>Man. Another year, another another year.

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<v Speaker 2>Of Pisces Nation.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah before that, so happy birthday to you many more

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<v Speaker 4>of my brother and thank you all for rocking with

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<v Speaker 4>us again. Like we said, the feedback is always appreciated,

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<v Speaker 4>and the people who are reaching out from different parts

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<v Speaker 4>of the world keep them coming. Let us know where

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<v Speaker 4>you're from, and we'll definitely keep going as long as

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<v Speaker 4>y'all keep suppointing man.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you peace.

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